Garry's Mod

[keen rivet]

yeah

[quiet scroll]

When you made your water mod Xenthio, did you apply normals to the in-game textures to get the watery effect? I figured I'd try and add some more water found around source maps

[keen rivet]

just name this vmt the same as whatever you're trying to replace.

it makes the water use the simple version included in rtx remix fixes

[loud mural]

@keen rivet Props using those worldmodels textures become invisible:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrbaNbAKMuc

[keen rivet]

did you enable unique hashes?

[quiet scroll]

Thank you!!

[loud mural]

Shit my bad lol

[subtle bison]

is it also possible to maybe raise the player model a little bit off the ground? these foot print shadows shouldnt be almost pitch black in front of a soft light

liminal cs_office

[jade trellis]

who knew you could make office look so creepy

[lapis delta]

THIS WILL BE PETER GRIFFIN IN RTX

[keen rivet]

no they should... youre standing on it

no light hits something youre standing on

[subtle bison]

i guess it just looks off since there is no legs to actually look at my bad

[keen rivet]

hey what do the other legs look like when you turn around

[subtle bison]

one sec

with the normal workshop version it has that bone issue

here it is in motion

[keen rivet]

oh thats going to be annoying

[subtle bison]

lol wtf

looks like a horse galloping

[keen rivet]

rtx_pseudoplayer_offset_x -24
rtx_pseudoplayer_offset_localangles 1

@subtle bison pushing these now, the legs addon isnt like, identical to the actual player animations, where mine is perfectly identical to the player.

so it doesnt quite match up all the time

i'll push it anyways and you can take a peak

i'll continue looking at making it better though

[subtle bison]

just out of curiosity, why not remake the gmod leg mod but as a part of rtx fixes

[keen rivet]

might

also the glegs model floats

[lapis delta]

guys, do anyone know how to make mesh translucent?

[quiet scroll]

#1116089843479498782 message

[lapis delta]

wait a minute

if there are two material shaders

and they're customizable

then we can also make our material shaders, right?

[lapis delta]

hey @subtle bison how progress with converting from source to pbr?

[subtle bison]

0%, life is getting a little busy for me so i dont have much freetime to author materials now

[lapis delta]

oh, im sorry for dm you

[arctic solstice]

how do i make a mirror material?

[glossy mauve]

honestly at this point im just waiting for hl2 rtx to get the models n stuff

[onyx ridge]

i probably should just upscale the original grass texture or something but

it's kinda nice having a more clean look

hhhuh

i marked the blood splatter as a decal texture and it's now emitting light

and getting stronger and stronger

it might be because i made it reflective

[keen rivet]

lol wtf

also

can i have your gravity gun textures lol

[glossy mauve]

if only Gwater was compatible 😔

[earnest yew]

ask mee to fuck w the shaders

[lapis delta]

i think itll possible when remix team will release ray marching

not mee or even rubat

[glossy mauve]

fr if they allowed us to use all the tools nvidia has made over the years on remix it would be so fire

[onyx ridge]

well if gwater is done on the cpu then it'd work with remix anyway

as long as the shader used can be rendered in dx7

[onyx ridge]

they are just upscaled ones that i spent way too long sorting out emission on but here !!

[earnest yew]

ray marching?

[earnest yew]

it cant atm

ive talked about it with him

[onyx ridge]

i'm guessing a specific shader's required for raymarching or something then

[earnest yew]

wtf is raymarching

[onyx ridge]

i think it's the way gwater makes water particles connect

[keen rivet]

Gwater2 particles are flat circle planes

Mee would have to make them proper meshes for it to work

[keen rivet]

I'm asking him if it's possible

I mean it's probably possible but would it be feasible is the real question.

[earnest yew]

doubt

but ill be suprised!

[keen rivet]

lmao

[lapis delta]

itll be good, if crosshair didnt disappeared in ground

[earnest yew]

yummy!

get it to work for 5 dollars

[keen rivet]

it works :D

[earnest yew]

pics

NOW

[keen rivet]

:D

[earnest yew]

oh i thought this was gwater

[keen rivet]

oh lol

hold on lemme fuck with gwater i might be able to do somethhing

[earnest yew]

do you have gwater 2

nvm

[keen rivet]

yeah

[earnest yew]

5 dollar bounty

[jade trellis]

Those are some of the angriest verts ive ever seen

[keen rivet]

Guys its begun

I've began to tame the dastardly direct x 9 mode

this is not only dx9

but 64bit

isnt it beautiful

[quiet scroll]

https://tenor.com/view/omg-oh-my-god-crypto-eth-ethereum-gif-27338613

[scarlet temple]

anyone who has garry mod working with the portal rtx branch can you send me your bin folder

[winter radish]

Teach us the way

[keen rivet]

Ok what ive learnt

is that remix cant track the position of the world

by creating a decal (shooting) remix suddenly is able to track the world (aslong as it is onscreen)

so im just trying to figure out how to like

idk

ok first off

r_drawskybox 0 must have so it can track the world

it seems like theres like

modelspace and worldspace

[quiet scroll]

The main benefit of the 64-bit is more processing power right? But is there any other big benefits to it? More addon capabilities?

I'm trying to remember when the 64bit version came out and what that webpage said lol

[loud mural]

Rendering performance is better on 64bit which means we won't be as limited by the game, some pretty cool addons are coded specifically for that branch. I'm forgetting some other benefits but that's the gist of it

Also Chromium

That is on the 32 bit version too just not on the main branch

[lapis delta]

WAIT

if i understood right

dx9 and 64bit work together, yea?

[loud mural]

Seemingly so

[lapis delta]

YAAAAY!

[keen rivet]

Removing the bridge overhead, meaning rtx remix can directly be used by gmod

[lapis delta]

i wanted to ask, will be there a new tutorial for dx9 and 64bit?

[keen rivet]

its horrendously unusable right now

[lapis delta]

oh

[keen rivet]

64bit dx7 works but blueamulet hasnt finished patches for it

[lapis delta]

i hope

there will be also patches for dx9

cuz in some workshop addons they only have dx9 models

and i need to convert them every time

[keen rivet]

maybe

you'll have to ask blueamulet. I'm not smart enought to do the patches :(

[loud mural]

Could someone test this map?:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1129969546

For me it looks like this when I spawn in

and if you noclip into any buildings Remix starts working again

[quiet scroll]

Working over here

Here's my rtx.conf, if that maybe has any differences

[quiet scroll]

THE best mod I've added in a loooong time lmaoo

[onyx ridge]

i will watch with great interest

it'd be nice to not have to worry about invisible models !!

[onyx ridge]

emission's probably a bit excessive but eh

huh

screen space shader somehow captured a frame

and then crashed the game right after i tried pausing

[lapis delta]

DAMN

APPLY PBR TO YOUR Q MENU

PLEASE

[onyx ridge]

map retexturizer discovered

hell yeah

seems like it does mess up lighting

i think it does something to do with the original missing texture texture

huh

yeah

anytime you replace a material it'll appear as a missing texture in reflections

@keen rivet dunno if you can do anything about it but i think you'd be interested

hmmm

it's screenspaced based too

didn't even realise remix did anything in screen space

if a previously replaced material's in screenspace then it renders with the purple

otherwise it just has the black checkers

ohhhhh wait it's because i had it set as a player model texture

** ** still kinda strange rendering behaviour though

[loud mural]

It's still broken for me oddly enough

[loud mural]

I figured it out

It was the shader skybox

[grizzled cargo]

This happens to me on a second map already, any ideas? (map is gm_theasylum)

[quiet scroll]

Yeah, that happens for me too Some maps have a mirrored effect, it's always the bulky nice looking maps that have this issue

Here's an example, a few steps inside that house and everythings flipped https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2996034384

No fix that I know of

[grizzled cargo]

There must be a solution we dont know about, 50% maps that would be perfecty to remix is fucked

[subtle bison]

there is a fix

mentioned a few days ago
#1116089843479498782 message

[quiet scroll]

OH MY GOD

[subtle bison]

@keen rivet can you add this command to the rtx extensions, would really help out a lot of map> ent_remove_all func_reflective_glass

[quiet scroll]

Y'all are the best, thank u thank u

[keen rivet]

Yep I've got an idea I want to do

I want to automatically replace mirrors with rtx ones

I've just never got around to it

[scenic jungle]

i really wanna replace the models in this addon with juniez models but they dont work with the addon but im wondering is it possible to make juniez models work with the addon in rtx remix? https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2931229059&searchtext=reanimated+weapons

[grizzled cargo]

Now I only need a method to make physical sun for my life to be complete

[quiet scroll]

What do you mean a physical sun? Like in the toolkit? Or a sun to have in the runtime?

[grizzled cargo]

toolkit

[grizzled cargo]

Maybe I am doing something wrong but when I did that and loaded into the game it wasnt working

[quiet scroll]

It might have been added to an unstable hash. If you go into debug mode and geomatry hash, you'll be able to see the world in color blocks. As you move around and move the object around, as long as it doesn't change color it's stable - as far as I understand it.

[grizzled cargo]

Bro, why every weapon mod I download my gun has no model or causes some white texture over my screen at certain angles. Tarkov guns based on ARC9, Modern Warfare 2019 guns, all the same issues.

[subtle bison]

most models for arc9 or mw base are only compiled for dx9

so they wont render in anything below unless you dump the addon, decompile the models, and recompile them with sw.vtx support

also arc9 needs specific settings for the models that do work

as seen here ^^^

[scenic jungle]

how do i make the model i used to replace a model but have the same skeleton as the previous model?

[subtle bison]

for mesh replacements im not entirely too sure, though i think we cant even do those kinds of replacements in gmod atm anyway

[scenic jungle]

well shit because i really want to see this addon with juniez models https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2931229059

do i have to do some blender shit???

[subtle bison]

probably, you would have to make sure the animations fit the new mesh

but yeah it can be entirely done with source/blender and then replace the materials with remix

[scenic jungle]

damn

i dont know how to do that dawg😭

[half viper]

You don't need to touch remix
Its all doable through source engine

[scenic jungle]

how do i do it?

i dont know source engine shit

and source spaghetti scares me

[subtle bison]

this looks like a decent guide but porting and editing models for source is not that easy ngl https://youtu.be/VPSC9NUHyME

i used to dabble with model creation years ago but depending on what you want, it can be a nightmare for sure

i would start goolging modeling for source guides like the one i sent

[scenic jungle]

oh

oh jesus

yeah im gonna stick with the vanilla animations and the juniez models

[keen rivet]

wonder if loading dx9 models would be possible in dx7 mode

like why wouldnt they in theory when its loaded on the cpu and should be able to be turned into a dx7 format

[loud mural]

We need dx80 not sw just tested it now

[loud mural]

https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/VTX

They are basically the same since you can just rename the 90 version to 80 and it just works

[keen rivet]

LMAO

[loud mural]

sw stands for software which is literally used for the software renderer which doesn't seem to work in any modern branch Source game

You can software render verts but Jesus is it slow, I get like 30 fps on a 13900KS

and it just instantly crashes when you change visleaf

[keen rivet]

i wonder if this is as easy as turning 64 78 38 30 2E 76 74 78 into 64 78 39 30 2E 76 74 78 in datacache.dll

@loud mural whats a map or mod with dx9 models

[loud mural]

Just remove a dx80.vtx from a model and that will make it not render if your patch isn't working

I can't remember any particular mods or maps off the top of my head

The maps I do remember are only compiled in HDR which doesn't seem to render anything but brushes at least for me

OH

Wiremod!

Try spawning in anything from Wiremod

They recently got rid of everything but dx90.vtx

@keen rivet ^

[keen rivet]

trying this

[loud mural]

Ahh

[loud mural]

Ayyyyy!

gg

[keen rivet]

https://github.com/BlueAmulet/SourceRTXTweaks/pull/10 @fringe ingot :D

i dont have a 64 bit dll on hand to look at so i only did 32 bit

CSGO MAPS LOADING NWO

[half viper]

This is so cool

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3045727616 @keen rivet can you try this?

It had the same issue with assets disappearing and whatnot

[keen rivet]

alright

[half viper]

Thanks <3

[keen rivet]

looks normal

[half viper]

Most props didnt load there

So yes it got fixed yippie!!

[lapis delta]

damn, this map also has that "flickering lights" bug

not only this map

bigcity also

[half viper]

Uhh

[half viper]

Light update command?

Or whatever it is

[lapis delta]

nah, suppress light keeping is the problem

[woeful phoenix]

@keen rivet when you're available hit me with a DM so you can try the new dxvk module and hopefully get some pathtraced skyboxes going

[keen rivet]

Path traced skyboxes?

[keen rivet]

Oh the 3D skybox

[woeful phoenix]

Yep

I'll DM you the d3d9

[loud mural]

Damn I'm so excited

Also has anyone ever seen this on maps when you have rtx_experimental_lightupdater set to 1?:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-bEUkyMkNg

[keen rivet]

those cubes arent supposed to be visible

and they arent supposed to be culled either

[loud mural]

Well I enabled the debug stuff to show you that they were there

[keen rivet]

oh

that makes sense lol

looks like theyre being culled then

what map is that

[loud mural]

ep1_citadel_02

[keen rivet]

right

does anyone else experience water flickering?

its an issue ive had for a while now

[loud mural]

Can you show what it looks like?

[lapis delta]

damn, i LOVE RTX REMIX

i thought that there would never be normal reflections, shadows, or even more so global illumination

[quiet scroll]

Destructible House RTX coming out soon, I tried using textures from sharetextures this time around. They're very quality. I think I still prefer upscaling original assets, but it's cool when things like wood or marble can be traded for different shades or wood types.

[modest whale]

DAMN, that could help for so much maps, insane 🤝

[lapis delta]

does anybody know how to increase performance without touching fg and dlss?

[modest whale]

buy new gpu

or download ram

[jade trellis]

64x branch

[lapis delta]

yea, thanks

[lapis delta]

i have rtx 4070 already

[lapis delta]

xd

[lapis delta]

by what percentage will fps increase?

[keen rivet]

mat_queue_mode 2

gmod_mcore_test 1

you can also set denoising quality lower

[modest whale]

I think you have better performance but remix is less stable so you choose

also 4070 isn't that good, It's last gen but not very powerful

For something like remix i mean

it's a really good gpu overall

[subtle bison]

how is it last gen? the 4000 series is still current lol

if you mean compared to the super, its a minor spec bump but the architecture is all the same

[onyx ridge]

can confirm this does work !!

(said heavies did not render previously)

also the rtx version of construct doesn't have a navmesh

not sure if you can just copy a navmesh over from another map but#

oh yeah you can

would still be handy to have as part of the addon though

[earnest yew]

send me ur rtx.conf

PLEASE

[earnest yew]

i wonder if this works for particles

[onyx ridge]

never even considered using like

regular model replacements

guess i'm going back and redoing the gravity gun, revolver and ar2 but at least they'll be mmod !!!

strange

the tinting kinda works correctly but it also flashes red

okay well particles are messed up but still !!

[keen rivet]

Well particles rely on a shader I think

[earnest yew]

fuck

[keen rivet]

But like, I don't see any reason why we can't be in dx8 mode and use pixel shaders only

so maybe...

[earnest yew]

i want a fix for tf2

cause the particles work in dx8 mode

but they must be relying on a shader or some shit

cause they dont work w remix

[onyx ridge]

wow that was not really worth the time i probably should've done the ar2 or something

this is pretty much as close to me upscaling and converting pbr textures straight from the game

very much simplifying the workflow but it was pretty much

• extract addon
• run diffuse texture through a decompresser and then upscale
• separate normal map to alpha
• upscale alpha and desaturate (metallic) then invert (roughness)
• zero out normal map blue channel to use like one of the only normal map upscalers i can find

[keen rivet]

HOT

[onyx ridge]

it wouldn't be that painful if it could be automated but good luck

the world if chainner let you separate channels:

[keen rivet]

Can't you upscale a normal map like any other texture?

[onyx ridge]

not to mention the fact the mmod replacements have broken particles

[onyx ridge]

ppppossibly but they could mess up colouring

using pbrify's upscaler on the 'specular map' gave it a slight red tint

and that was already greyscale

[keen rivet]

If it's only a little it's probably fine

[onyx ridge]

upscaling a normal map with something not made for it could easily mess up the information in it

[keen rivet]

I think I upscaled normals in octotex and it worked out fine

[onyx ridge]

i may look into that but for now all i really have to work with is chainner

[keen rivet]

Yeah I meant like just as general I upscaled normals and it worked fine

might work fine in chainner too

[earnest yew]

gas show

nu pogodi my love

[lapis delta]

oh, wait

[onyx ridge]

well for chainner it depends on whatever model i can find for pytorch

[lapis delta]

you did like i said

right?

[onyx ridge]

i can't remember you saying anything

i just looked at the mmod replacements and thought "hey these use specular maps" so assumed they'd have normals too

hey wait

[lapis delta]

i remembered that i said about alpha channels of normal and diffuse maps

[onyx ridge]

@modern quest you're the one who made pbrify aren't you

[onyx ridge]

yeah i figured out that the alpha channel of diffuse maps are for emission and for models that have normal maps their alpha is for specular

[modern quest]

yes

[onyx ridge]

i could probably actually do better with converting specular maps considering chainner has a specular > metal but i didn't want to bother with a diffuse input

[onyx ridge]

oh hi !!

is pbrify trained on normal maps at all?

(and if not would a model for that be feasible)

[modern quest]

there's a model meant for normal maps

it converts albedo to normals

[lapis delta]

not only, dif. alpha channel also has metalness map

[onyx ridge]

i mean for like
upscaling normal maps provided you have one already

[lapis delta]

but yea, emission too

[modern quest]

you said upscaling normal maps with the existing model yields a weird tint?

to fix that in chaiNNer, just connect this node between the output and the save image node

[onyx ridge]

i haven't tried that yet admittedly but i tried it with a greyscale specular map and it gave it a slight red tint

which worries me considering a greyscale map should be easier to upscale than a normal map

[modern quest]

ah. you can use this then

[onyx ridge]

ooh

[modern quest]

the problem is that the model works in RGB, not grayscale. it will introduce some amount of color shifting

[onyx ridge]

i know normal maps are a lot more sensitive to color shifting which is my concern

[modern quest]

this node should fix anything that happens

i know it's not ideal for it to happen to begin with. sadly it's a limitation of the architecture i'm using. i have a WIP model that has basically 0 color shifting, which may work better here

[onyx ridge]

that doesn't help much if i'm working with a normal map though

[modern quest]

the Normalize Normals node

it basically modifies the input normal map to be within spec

to fix roughness/specular/anything grayscale

and for normal maps

[onyx ridge]

i'll give that a try later then

on a completely unrelated note

[keen rivet]

glass still randomly crashes for me :(

[onyx ridge]

i'm using vphysics jolt, that might be why ??

[keen rivet]

no i mean

glass on anything

[onyx ridge]

(though sometimes pieces of glass get stuck because their collision gets generated incorrectly)

[keen rivet]

crashes gpu drivers randomly

[onyx ridge]

oh

strange

[earnest yew]

thanks bbg

[keen rivet]

@fringe ingot do you know if its possible to have dx8 mode use pixel shaders only?

oh on hiatus whoops

sorry!

the patches seems to disable all shaders but i really only want to disable vertex shaders

[fringe ingot]

The shader architecture does not let you do only pixel shaders, you have to have a vertex shader to feed it
Plus the patches do not disable shaders, that's probably just a side effect of the dxlevel argument

[keen rivet]

oh hmm

cause i had to comment this out to get anythign that wasnt shadermodel 0 in dxvk to work

because i thought like, shadermodel 1 was pixel shader only for some reason?

[fringe ingot]

hmm ... I suppose that one does effectively disable shaders, it forces a function to always return false cause otherwise it would crash mid function
I could try to find some empty space in the dll to inject a check for the crash instead but that would definitely be less generic and iirc trying to skip the crash made other things fail later on

[keen rivet]

yeah it kinda breaks everything unfortunately :(
sorry for disturbing you during your hiatus though! appreciate you answering :D

[onyx ridge]

i will be waiting patiently for better particle support so i have more of a reason to make a mod for all the mmod weapons

[loud mural]

@keen rivet Whenever I have your addon installed and I'm on an HDR only map all dynamic entities stop rendering including viewmodels any idea why?

[keen rivet]

fullbright

but idk why my addon would be doing that...

ill look into it in a moment

[loud mural]

Ight

[RTX Remix Fixes] lua/entities/rtx_lightupdatermanager.lua:60: bad argument #1 to 'pairs' (table expected, got nil)
  1. pairs - [C]:-1
   2. unknown - lua/entities/rtx_lightupdatermanager.lua:60

I get that Lua error

[loud mural]

Yeah I know why there are no lights

[keen rivet]

alright ill look into it

[loud mural]

Cool

[keen rivet]

uploading a fix i think

[quiet scroll]

https://www.moddb.com/mods/destructible-house-rtx

[loud mural]

Alright lmk when it's live so I can test

[loud mural]

Also I've had rare crashes when noclipping in and out of maps with this error in the mini-dump:

-Lua Stack Traces-
  Client
    0. DrawModel - [C]:-1
      1. (null) - lua/entities/rtx_pseudoplayer.lua:96

I think it has to do with the fact that it can't find the player model entity

That's just a guess though I'm not great with code

I also get rare crashes when my weapons are stripped and/or reequipped with this error:

-Lua Stack Traces-
  Client
    0. Capture - [C]:-1
      1. MaterialSet - lua/entities/rtx_pseudoweapon.lua:124
        2. (null) - lua/entities/rtx_pseudoweapon.lua:185

[loud mural]

I figured out what was causing the lights to disappear

r_occlusion was set to 1 by default

Set it to 0 and that will stop props from being occluded

[keen rivet]

oh

that makes sense

[loud mural]

I didn't see that in anyones config oddly enough

[keen rivet]

lol when i allow pixelshaders skeletons become fucked

idk whythat has anything to do with pixel shaders i wonder why it does that

[onyx ridge]

ate too much ketchup

[stuck wing]

anyone got the stdshader_dx7.dll from portal rtx

[random hemlock]

Has anyone figured a fix yet for the really slow lighting properties like residual shadows and flashes?

[keen rivet]

enable surpress light keeping

set rtx_experimental_lightupdater_count to like 1024

[random hemlock]

illegal to distribute afaik since it's an official game file

[keen rivet]

I wonder if you could create like a smart texutre upscaler designed for source engine

since source textures utilise th alpha channel for effects

like some textures have it to mark areas as shiny

similiar to PBR kinda in a way if you think about it

[random hemlock]

Source engine textures are mostly just real images of things formatted as textures so I'm sure it's very much possible

you could probably add POM to textures really easily using AI upscaling

[keen rivet]

wonder if that data could be used if you made an ai model that took the vanilla texture, alpha channel and normal to upscale it and pbrify it

could throw in the vmt for surface type tags too lol, (wood, metal, plastic, concrete)

[random hemlock]

for a lot of stuff you could probably just use the game's own roughness maps for reference

[keen rivet]

source doesnt have roughness so the closest thing would be that alpha channel

[random hemlock]

fair

we just need people working on Source Engine like the STALKER folks who have basically rebuilt those games from scratch

community developed and modernized Source engine would go so hard

[livid rapids]

nillerusr source says hi

[subtle bison]

probably cant do too much to make source remix compliant unless we had a actual license for the full engine or the leaked source code (uhh for legal reasons we should not do that 🙂 )

[livid rapids]

well strata got a license to develop their own branch so there is a chance

[subtle bison]

or wait for blueamulet to get out of hiatus and start patching the engine like crazy 😆

[livid rapids]

https://wiki.stratasource.org/shared

p2 revolution uses strata

https://store.steampowered.com/app/601360/Portal_Revolution/

Steam

Portal: Revolution

Portal: Revolution is a fan-made mod for Portal 2 which plays before the events of Portal 2 in the dead and decaying Aperture facility.Over 40 new puzzlesThe campaign contains 40 brand new puzzles making use of new test elements and presents existing mechanics in a new way not seen in Portal 2. Resurrected "Pneumatic Diversity Vent" element New ...

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[subtle bison]

yeah but i think they still need a license to get access to their code

the engine code is not on github

[livid rapids]

ofc

[subtle bison]

just a issue reporter

[livid rapids]

nillerusr's source is kinda on the gray side since he doesn't allow it for commercial purposes

since it's based on the tf2 leak

[subtle bison]

i firmly believe gmod is remix's bread and butter so i think patching/injection would be the best method for it, of course though for source mods having a licensed engine port would be awesome

[clear tendon]

started making my first map. how do I replace a material and make it a mirror? or glass?

[random hemlock]

what weapons and rig are you using that actually work properly with RTX?

[lapis delta]

did u install rtx remix? (not in gmod, in omniverse)?

[quiet scroll]

#1116089843479498782 message

[clear tendon]

TFA is the only weapon base i find stable at the moment, i've never used rigs but im using the enhanced player model selector to replace the hands. for the gun im using: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2224170889 and the hands: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2768392266

[clear tendon]

I just followed Xenthio's tutorial. the one not using omniverse.

do i have to switch?

Ooooo is this through omiverse?

[quiet scroll]

Rtx remix toolkit

[lapis delta]

in omniverse app, u download toolkit

[jade trellis]

you dont really need omniverse unless you want to mess with materials and model replacements

but its nice to have to mess with lights for art

[clear tendon]

which one should i select?

[clear tendon]

i am actually thinking of experimenting with model replacements later on cuz why not

[lapis delta]

"create"

[clear tendon]

alrighty, made the project and loaded the captured scene but all im seeing is just a black screen. Isn't there meant to be a 3d preview of the scene?

nvm i was just far from the spawn

it was on the edge of the map and hard to locate but found it

[lapis delta]

what result?

@clear tendon

[onyx ridge]

pbrify i think does a good job of actually upscaling diffuse textures

doing other info in something like chainner may be hard though

i think it erases colour data wherever there's alpha so you'd have to split the alpha out of the texture in another program

upscaling models trained on exclusively normal maps and roughness maps would be handy

[clear tendon]

here's the result ingame. i'll have to adjust a few things later on since the way i made the mirror was just to set the roughness value of the material to 0, but I added emmisves to the light which i like. I added normal map to the walls but for some reason it's not showing in game, but only in the rtx toolkit

[lapis delta]

oh, i had the same problem! did u add another layer?

i mean, wait a min

[clear tendon]

no i'm using the same mod.usda

didn't add an extra layer

[lapis delta]

you need to keep textures in your project folder

[lapis delta]

also, you need to do like this

[lapis delta]

like this "./rtx-remix/mods/(your project/mod)/replacements/"

@clear tendon

[clear tendon]

how do i change the project folder?

[lapis delta]

not in here

where is your capture's folder

[clear tendon]

ohhhhh

wait

wrong directory lol, just realised

my captures folder is in Steam\steamapps\common\GarrysModRTX\rtx-remix

do i change the output path to the mods folder or to captures?

[lapis delta]

wait a min

can you make new project?

cuz it will be easy to explain, how to save changes

[clear tendon]

ye I probs should

[lapis delta]

1. as soon as you start a new project, create a new layer under your USDA layer and name it differently, but save it in the same folder as the project itself

[lapis delta]

like this

[lapis delta]

then, click on this layer (left of the name)

click to the "ingestion" tab -> materials

swap your textures from folder to ingestion

[clear tendon]

can the project file location be anywhere?

[lapis delta]

if your textures named, like (something)_n or _norm or even _normal or something like that, it will automatically be "Normal" or "Metal"

[lapis delta]

yea, a shortcut will be created in the mods folder

[lapis delta]

but if it won't named like this at the end of name, you must to assign them their appointment

click to "add queue"

or what, idk, im not near my pc atm

BUT

you must to create "replacements" folder in project folder

[lapis delta]

and add output directory to your "replacements" folder

and thats all

you can make changes in your folder

oh, i mean, in your mod

[lapis delta]

in layer, that you added in layers tab like this

ofc you will need to save your mod like package to use it in future

so, choose the same folder as your mod folder

ok?

@clear tendon

[clear tendon]

alright, so im trying to save the project file location in the mods folder but im getting an error saying the path im wanting to copy to (my rtx remix mods folder) has a whitespace in file path

[lapis delta]

huh, strange

maybe in that folder that you created for mod, not mods

[clear tendon]

yeah cuz it worked in the previous folder for some reason

and i'd just copy and paste that folder into the mods folder inside of rtx remix once i've finished

[lapis delta]

did anything change in game?

also, you need to save your layer

[lapis delta]

are you here?

@clear tendon

[clear tendon]

yea im currently redoing some of the textures roughness etc a bit since i had to start a new project, but im nearly finished it anyway. bouta start on the wall pbr soon

[lapis delta]

so now

its working

right?

[clear tendon]

havent tested ingame yet

[lapis delta]

you can, if you didn't know

cuz mod can be changed in game, you even don't need to restart

[clear tendon]

oh cool, i thought it would have to be restarted each time lol

[lapis delta]

so, can you check?

[clear tendon]

ye ill have to boot up gmod first

[lapis delta]

first of all, save your project

i mean, layer

jesus

[onyx ridge]

me who hasn't done this and it's somehow worked out

[lapis delta]

i just saw that in Nvidia's tutorial as "recommended step"

so yea

[clear tendon]

oh wow it's actually updating realtime

saves me a lot of time

[lapis delta]

did normals working?

[lapis delta]

or nah?

[clear tendon]

getting a weird error in the ingestion tab

[lapis delta]

send me this map, ill come home after school and check it

[clear tendon]

wait, nvm i changed normal_opengl to normal_ocathedral or whatever it was called and its working. yay.

thanks @lapis delta

[lapis delta]

glad to help 😀

[lapis delta]

better to name like _normal, nothing additionally

and choose, from what are you picking up this, from opengl or from directx

[clear tendon]

yes most definitely

[quiet scroll]

I know the shining bar scene when I see it

[muted basin]

hello guys, just try gmod rtx and I follow all the insturction that post here #1116089843479498782 message but the game looks still not working properly, can anyone help?

[lapis delta]

thanks to @subtle bison

[muted basin]

hmm, another issue, when I am using physgun attaching object the scrren become full bright, any solution?

[lapis delta]

rtx fixes?

like it deletes that "holo" effect

on your prop

and maybe

that holo is the problem that causes "full bright screen" bug

[muted basin]

🤔 so how do i fix that

[lapis delta]

did u download rtx fixes?

[muted basin]

can you post me a link? thank you

[lapis delta]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3038853470&searchtext=rtx+remix

[muted basin]

thanks man

[lapis delta]

rtx remix fixes already has that addon

i think

[onyx ridge]

hohoho

vpkedit is in my possession now

[onyx ridge]

(means i can get the original normal maps from textures and upscale those)

[onyx ridge]

probably could have done a better job but whatevsss

to be fair it does look a lot better than with no enhancing at all

[loud mural]

A whitespace just means that somewhere in your filepath there is a folder name that has a space for example "rtx remix mod" would not work but "rtx-remix-mod" would work because it has no whitespaces

Idk why this is a thing all of a sudden I was able to do it in a pervious version of Remix

[onyx ridge]

damnit

i think i'm starting to hit the limits of my 4050

vram usage is consistently about 95% and i'm starting to get pretty consistent stutters

oh wait

never even thought of how remix unloads the textures for weapons not in use

hurrah

stutters are still making the game pretty hard to play

[loud mural]

You could try lowering your DLSS mode if you haven't already

If that doesn't work I guess you'll need to lower the game res itself

[onyx ridge]

it kinda has diminishing returns

most of the vram usage is because the gun textures are 8k

also a slight problem with the mmod ar2

firing uses a different set of textures

i can keep the metal, roughness and normal textures but i'll need to change the diffuse and emission

i may just use the current textures for now

i'm guessing the current public version of remix doesn't have rtx io

after a bit of firing when it returns back to the default texture it's pretttyy blurry

wonder if there'd be a way to store all of a gun's textures in memory and only unload when it's unequipped

[onyx ridge]

okay

hmm

i think it's not strictly a vram thing

if i stand still in a completely blank map it works fine

changing weapons, spawning props doesn't affect performance

once i start moving it takes a few seconds and the game starts stuttering

(and occasionally it just crashes immediately on the first stutter)

mmmaybe it's an io issue?

whenever the stuttering starts happening my disk usage skyrockets

[subtle bison]

sounds like vram leaking into system memory

pretty normal once you run out of vram

[onyx ridge]

thing is i haven't

i'm pretty close to it but not actually using all of what remix can access

and my ram usage is only about 80%

i've had remix bleed into ram before and it wasn't stuttering then

not having the game focused for a while causes the stuttering to stop until i start moving about again

okay it's happening without the disk usage now

[earnest yew]

@keen rivet

how do i disable the fucking playermodel

[keen rivet]

Rtx_localplayershadows

[earnest yew]

thank fucking jesus

it was actually making me tweak

[keen rivet]

Why

[earnest yew]

broken texture that cant be selected on playermodel

[earnest yew]

any idea why lights wont appear

even with the light command

[keen rivet]

oh half-life source has lights that are not in the map but baked from textures

so like theyre not lights i can read from the bsp to update

[earnest yew]

they're updated maps

that include lights

resized maps

if im correct

[lapis delta]

HELL NAH💀💀💀

8K TEXTURES?

ARE YOU SERIOUS RIGHT NOW?

[earnest yew]

#dumbass!

try and use under 4k....

please

using 8k will do you no good

rtx remix does NTO

NOT

like portal 2 maps

[quiet scroll]

I wonder why remix takes portal 2 maps through gmod and not portal 2 itself, I wonder what the engine difference is

[earnest yew]

no direct x

support

in portal 2 branch

its not just the maps

its the actual .exe

and dlls

[onyx ridge]

yeah well too lazy to downscale ....

[earnest yew]

well your game will be fucked

[empty leaf]

so how i go abhout adding upscaled texters in game

[onyx ridge]

i will persist

because it is definitely worth it

[onyx ridge]

i restart my game and the gun particles are working??

oh wait

they're kinda

they don't render as white squares any more but they cause a flickering triangle to take up part of my screen

wait it depends on the map

@keen rivet if particle rendering can't be fixed outright would it be possible to just not render them at all?

i know you can disable rendering of all particles but there are plenty that render fine

on the remix side it could probably be fixed with some sort of "don't render if this model is missing a material" option buuuut i don't think anyone here has the expertise for that

[keen rivet]

8 FUCKING K!?!???

You realistically don't need higher than 2k

[onyx ridge]

oh the funny part

it's not a single 8k texture

[keen rivet]

Holy shit that's 8k normals, albedo, roughness and metal

[onyx ridge]

the guns with emission?

5 8k textures

[keen rivet]

Fucking stop please 2k

Yeah 200gb of vram

[modern quest]

even 1024, lol

[onyx ridge]

i have zero idea how it fits into like 2gb of vram

[keen rivet]

Yeah that's a lot

[onyx ridge]

i may lower it to 4k

[keen rivet]

2k trust me it'll run better too

4K at MOST

[onyx ridge]

i definitely think viewmodel things are worth having at 4k and terrain textures at 2k

[keen rivet]

But I think 2k will be perfectly fine

Because they're small models and not a giant wall 2k will work well

[onyx ridge]

you'll usually only have like one viewmodel loaded at a time up close

[keen rivet]

They're not unloaded

[onyx ridge]

the only time you'll have more than one loaded is if you're using an addon that uses the same material for worldmodels

[keen rivet]

They're always loaded

[onyx ridge]

they definitely are

[keen rivet]

Unloading them would be laggy

[onyx ridge]

unequipping the ar2 drops my vram usage from like 90% down to 80

[keen rivet]

it would need to read from ram or disk and that takes too much time

[onyx ridge]

maybe it keeps a low resolution copy in memory but it definitely doesn't keep the full texture

i was having problems with that with the ar2 because the mmod replacements use a separate texture when it's firing

so when you started or stopped firing the texture would be low resolution for a moment

[woeful phoenix]

Are you guys having issues with rendertargets or just mirror ones?

[onyx ridge]

i think it depends but i'm not a super nerd so idk

i've noticed anything that renders another view in world is kinda iffy on if it'll work

the screen space shader shows a static frame at best and crashes the game at worst

the camera in kleiner's lab seems to consistently work for some reason but the last frame carries over to other maps

(and it won't update again??)

[woeful phoenix]

Those are monitors with in render order are appearing early on so it makes sense

I'm asking because I think the camera order may be fucked

It's mistaking the mirror in certain maps as a main cam

Xenthio has started diving into DXVK contributions so it might be worth experimenting with the skycam detection and use maincam as the last in the list

[earnest yew]

no

2k

not even portal rtx viewmodels are fucking 4k

[onyx ridge]

you don't have ads in portal

[earnest yew]

with the normal maps

it will look perfectly fine

[subtle bison]

moving materials look so nice 🤤

[subtle bison]

advanced material tool is OP

[lapis delta]

waittt, is that moving emission?

[loud mural]

This reminds me of that one part in the HL2 2003 techdemo where Alyx is made out of water and there is fire refracting through the water shader

[loud mural]

Has anyone had the bug where the game freezes when you try to load the original menu?

[keen rivet]

No, I exclusively use the original menu now

[onyx ridge]

should probably get to redoing more of office's textures

[weak moon]

ok so I've been trying to see what's been causing gmod to crash on startup, and I found this

Exception 0xc0000005 at 000003F191270000

[lapis delta]

oh shit he's coming

[subtle bison]

@keen rivet is the fix for invisible dx8/dx9 models pushed to the latest release for remix fixes?

or was that a dll patch

im not at my pc rn to double check lol

[loud mural]

It's a .dll patch

[loud mural]

This is it^

[subtle bison]

ty 🙏

[lapis delta]

converting materials from vertexlitgeneric to pbr. again

to be honest, in my opinion it looks great

[humble mango]

de_shortnuke in gmod

without remixed assets

[earnest yew]

cs2

[humble mango]

YOOO

mwb is working now

[earnest yew]

cs2

[loud mural]

cs3

[humble mango]

what can i do to decrease path tracing bounces to improve perfomance on 2060 super?

[earnest yew]

cs8?

[loud mural]

Nah hopefully it doesn't take that long for grandma cool's future computer to be able to run realtime shiba tracing

[lapis delta]

really?

[earnest yew]

does normal nuke not work for you

[humble mango]

laggy(

[earnest yew]

csgo maps wont even work for me

what dlls did you replace lol

[humble mango]

https://github.com/Xenthio/SourceRTXTweaks/blob/main/applypatch.py

lemme go on de_cache

[earnest yew]

already used that patch

[humble mango]

did you got bin/datamodel.dll inside patched dlls?

smh modern warfare weapons work properly without rtx remix addon patch

[earnest yew]

everything is fucked for me lol

[humble mango]

IDK

[humble mango]

oh

go and paste datamodel

[earnest yew]

I DID

[humble mango]

then idk

[humble mango]

sometimes

[subtle bison]

probably the best showcase for remix

[loud mural]

Well first you need to ignore all those detail textures

[subtle bison]

modern assets with high poly counts just does wonders 🤤

[earnest yew]

props dont work

first issue

[subtle bison]

you need to use xenthios new patch

[earnest yew]

i did,,,,

[keen rivet]

It was 1 fps for me

[keen rivet]

datacache.dll

[humble mango]

yes

[keen rivet]

That picture you replied to is also shortnuke

[humble mango]

gpu?

[keen rivet]

4090

[humble mango]

OH MY

i really want better rtx remix perf on my old rtx 2060 super(

[modern quest]

it's an honor to meet you. i just finished your game

[earnest yew]

?

[quiet scroll]

The director 🙇‍♂️

[keen rivet]

Can I have the mod for this lol

[subtle bison]

lol no mods

its one of the materials that come with gmod

its near the top of the material list, you should be able to find it

[random hemlock]

Thank you

[random hemlock]

sometimes. Only a few guns work. Most handguns and a few SMGs and rifles

unless it got updated today or something in which case pardon me

[subtle bison]

gm_grunt_hill looking real good with xenthios model fixes

[subtle bison]

gm_voidplaces also working correctly now

the pixel artstyle meshes so well with the pathtraced lighting 🤤

[subtle bison]

mw2 van model now shows 😮

[keen rivet]

Oh is it naturally emissive from additive blending

[subtle bison]

yea

[keen rivet]

Ah

[half viper]

Is that with RR?

Can you try turning off temporal reuse?

[livid rapids]

this makes me wish for CSM weapon self shadowing...

[humble mango]

👀

[keen rivet]

I wish I could in real csm :(

[livid rapids]

it's joever

anyways nycity loads

1 fps

[lapis delta]

wait, how did you get that graphics?

[lapis delta]

damn, i just love these clouds

they look amazing

[lapis delta]

i wish we could replay this scene with remix

[silver barn]

attempted x64 and it works for the most part (with xeth's tweaks ofc), although shooting an npc does seem to crash the game. any ideas?
here's the log file (seems to have been ruined by a lot of null data...)

[lapis delta]

XD

[silver barn]

agreed

[silver barn]

r_drawparticles 0 fixes it

[silver barn]

I was confused as well when I tried to open it and saw nothing ;-;

[lapis delta]

karma

[quiet scroll]

I’ve been playing gmod rtx for so long that regular gmod looks weird

Mac gmod at that

[clear tendon]

i can never go back to gmod without RTX anymore

[subtle bison]

hmm some guns from scp:5k arc9 still dont render even with xenthios patch

[subtle bison]

basic physgun emission texture test

for some reason the viewmodel doesnt light the world?

[subtle bison]

did a makeover in substance 😋

before/after

i used pbrify as a base for PBR then did my own material work

wish the emission blended better lol

[subtle bison]

gonna work on it more

fixed, no longer painted on, just used levels to crush the whites into a usable mask

hmm i should probably make it SSS so it blends even better

[subtle bison]

made the little dial emissive too

(world emission is fake, i just placed a light behind it)

[subtle bison]

color is easily changable just by changing the hue of the emission and reingesting

something is wrong with my gm_construct

[half viper]

Disable view models

In rtx remix settings

Can you show me the view models settings im pretty sure its there

[subtle bison]

yeah it was on

it works with it off but it messed up the viewmodel fov

i tried changing it in console but no effect

[half viper]

i forgot how to fix that without view models being on

Uhh

[subtle bison]

dw, it also seems like it breaks the shadow fix by xenthio

[half viper]

There should be a console command

[lapis delta]

hm, i think you need to recompile model, but really strange, how scp 5k dont work

[subtle bison]

adjusted the intensity of the lower part of the gun

should be more accurate now

[lapis delta]

@subtle bison did you try this?

[keen rivet]

the reason why fire doesnt work is because this

was never implemented

[keen rivet]

......

now live in rtx remix fixes

@hushed trail are you guys still using the 2d flat release build style fire in HL2 RTX?

[onyx ridge]

fire!!!!!!

[keen rivet]

now heres vfire

[hushed trail]

That’s a great question. I’m not really sure what I can say :/

[keen rivet]

ah

dont worry then

[hushed trail]

Wow that’s pretty incredible

[keen rivet]

vfire my beloved

[onyx ridge]

does not seem to be working for me

(game still complains about the character fire renderer not existing or being valid or whatever)

on a different note

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1323823967

for some reason remix fixes and this model causes remix to fail horribly

remix immediately crashes when it's rendered in-world and whatever error dialog it generates immediately closes too

yeah vfire doesn't work either

[sinful vigil]

the game worked great for me until now, but now out of nowhere every map i try to load (even gm_construct etc.) crashes. I have no idea why

every time I try to load a map it just gets stuck on the loading screen and then crashes. so weird

[subtle bison]

nah

[sinful vigil]

does anyone know how to fix this problem? 🥺

[lapis delta]

oh shit

[lapis delta]

wait, are you using rtx remix with dx9 and 64bit?

[subtle bison]

no 32-bit dx7

[humble mango]

i use 32bit dx9

[subtle bison]

i thought its always dx7 as the d3d9.shaderModel = 0 flag in dxvk.conf enforces no shader model? the game should default to dx7 with that flag

[subtle bison]

wow preset E for DLSS 3 almost like black magic, fixes a lot of the ghosting introduced with RR

@keen rivet getting this error when igniting stuff with the fire fix

spams the console like crazy

[subtle bison]

PBR-ified the plastic building material, added some smudges to make it a little more realistic (might change later)

[onyx ridge]

woah what on earth did you use to make that

[subtle bison]

substance painter + pbrify

AI upscaling makes a good base to author materials

i also PBR-ified the wood but the difference is so small lmao

since its completely rough

tl;dr the albedo and normals are upscaled, there wasnt much i wanted to add in substance

trying to keep the vanilla look

wood looks good up close though

here is the normals

too bad DLSS makes it almost invisible with a normal fov

[modern quest]

is that height map custom?

also, hopefully if/when DLSS preset customization is added, issues like that will improve

using DLSS 3.7 with Preset E + auto exposure almost entirely eliminated ghosting for me + improved finer details like this

[subtle bison]

no, its just a normal map

[subtle bison]

yea im already using DLSS 3.7 with preset e

autoexposure was already on

[modern quest]

oh, is that just a mesh then?

[subtle bison]

yeah

[modern quest]

for me it was off, weird

try Preset C maybe

[subtle bison]

would that help in performance mode?

i cant go above with my 2080 without destryoing my fps

to be honest i think the issue with normals is that

1. the base resolution of my game is low
2. the model texture has a lot of details so i assume the denoiser blurs it all

im not really too concerned as I can use DLAA for proper screenshots

[modern quest]

it's a lot like preset E, but even sharper. however it's also a bit more shimmery

it may actually be used for Ultra Performance already. not sure about Performance

[subtle bison]

ill give it a try in a bit

🤤

ngl i wish the outer materials came out better as the normal is almost invisible in normal viewing situations

[modern quest]

i'm not sure why it wouldn't be good

i've noticed that in a couple situations in my own testing. but the actual maps themselves appear to be okay?

[subtle bison]

yeah it looks great in substance, but in remix it looks awful lol

[modern quest]

😦

[modern quest]

PBRify V1.2.x looked better in remix, despite the maps looking kind of awful

i wonder if RR would help

[subtle bison]

i think for this the albedo is the only thing i kept from pbrify

[modern quest]

that would make sense

[modern quest]

but this is all PBRify? or is that what you're talking about with other PBR maps

[subtle bison]

no, most of what you've seen is custom substance/pbr map work on top of PBRify's albedo

except for the wood

[magic wyvern]

Hey, are the instructions from Xenthios video the best way to get GMOD working?

[subtle bison]

the second pinned instructions are more up to date

[magic wyvern]

from Kamil?

got it

thank you

[subtle bison]

np

hmm even with DLAA the normals look off

i might as well make those from scratch lmao

same goes for the reflective map

its supposed to be rusty as it is in substance but i have no idea why its so different here

[modern quest]

can you share the normal map?

[subtle bison]

i used a online tool so i could adjust it in realtime

https://cpetry.github.io/NormalMap-Online/

works pretty well in most cases

i think its picking up noise/artifacting from the albedo

so ill probably have to make a masked version in photoshop and remake the normals

[modern quest]

that does look quite flat

[subtle bison]

yea if i try to make it any deeper the artifacts show

[modern quest]

sorry, i'm still a bit confused. was this generated by PBRify, then just modified by you?

[subtle bison]

so i took the albedo from PBRify and threw it into that online tool, then adjusted it to prevent the artifacts from showing

[modern quest]

ah. i'd be surprised if PBRify's own normal map looks/works worse than the one generated from that website

[subtle bison]

its almost the same between the two with stock settings on the site

here is PBRify's

im just trying to keep the line detail while avoiding all the noise

[modern quest]

yeah, that makes sense

[subtle bison]

ill go ahead and try masking in the albedo in PS and see if the site can generate a better normal

ill probably blur it, use a unsharp mask, then greyscale it

[modern quest]

given some of the more recent maps i've seen generated, i will try to retrain the normal map model again. my last attempt didn't go well, but i have some ideas as to why

so new normal map model + new height map model will be in the next major release hopefully

[subtle bison]

i've messed with stable diffusion with upscaling textures before (not with octotex), and i have seen that noise issue before

[modern quest]

you're talking about this, right?

[subtle bison]

yeah