Chess Titans

[rocky minnow]

can i put all the things required in one file?

like if someone pins this it could be helpful for others

Get the game from https://win7games.com/, http://www.x64dgb.com for patching
Inside the ZIP, unpack content of the .trex folder into the main directory.
Put the rtx.conf file.
In game, set the graphics quality level to 3.
Note: Don't maximize the game. Instead, adjust the window size then restart.

[viral cypress]

@sick flint So in order to get fullscreen, you need to change the graphics settings in game so it resets the d3d9 device? something like that but it works

[rocky minnow]

alright which one of you is a mod

[viral cypress]

Uhm you can't move the camera in fullscreen because it is bound to a context menu

[viral cypress]

?

[hidden elk]

I FIGURED IT OUT

rtss crashes the game

[rocky minnow]

nah mayne, fk u bro

you had us pinned

😢

[hidden elk]

[viral cypress]

Uhm oh

[rocky minnow]

@hidden elk yo we were having this idea of adding an entire geometry that's attached to the chess board so you could get new backgrounds scenes with some stuff

[hidden elk]

Yhat could work, but are the board hashes stable?

[rocky minnow]

why don't you check them out

[hidden elk]

I will.

Also the latest dxvk causes the sky to disappear

[rocky minnow]

funny you say that. the game has no sky

its not even a skybox

[hidden elk]

Huh

[rocky minnow]

you have to add skydome mesh replacement yourself

[hidden elk]

What about this?

[rocky minnow]

@hidden elk #1110245358040260668 message

[rocky minnow]

its a flat texture

[viral cypress]

How did you get this resolution?

[hidden elk]

Yeah, but it disappears with the latest dxvk

[sick flint]

I don’t follow you

[rocky minnow]

@hidden elk this is how we added them, thanks to tadpole3159

[rocky minnow]

what the heck

https://tenor.com/view/archer-slap-cigar-thats-not-how-this-works-gif-14032749

[hidden elk]

wh

[viral cypress]

I thought it was fullscreen, are you on a 2k monitor

[viral cypress]

I wanted to hear your thoughts on this

[viral cypress]

I wasn't giving instructions

[hidden elk]

yes

So the glass is still a problem

[rocky minnow]

you need the the tadpole's USD

download that version

[viral cypress]

I have a feeling it might get fixed if we put them a little above

[hidden elk]

Man

[viral cypress]

the pieces

via mesh replacements

[cursive bridge]

oh wow thats broken aint it

[viral cypress]

its my mod

not yours

[sick flint]

Oh no I was talking about how it destroys the d3d9 device on loss of focus

[cursive bridge]

ah ok, wondered how the stuff was different, as you were 😛

[hidden elk]

This game is gonna break the record for the crashes with remix for me

[viral cypress]

for the most part

[rocky minnow]

how long does it take to get a clean transparent screenshot from your debug camera?

[viral cypress]

You mean the process?

Or how long it takes to look ok

1. half a minute
2. immediately

[hidden elk]

Okay so funny bug

Turning dlssfg off makes the game crash immediately when you press alt+x

[viral cypress]

Turn it off from the config. This happens when turning off dlss as well

rtx.dlfg.enable = false

[hidden elk]

No after turning it off, it crashes when you try to open the menu after a restart

[cursive bridge]

oh yea, so it does

[hidden elk]

Every time

Am I stuck with shitty ai frames?

[viral cypress]

If your game starts with frame gen off, it shouldt crash as mine doesn't (I don't have fg)

[viral cypress]

@hidden elk Try this

put it inside rtx.conf

check if there is rtx.dlfg.enable = true if so remove it

[hidden elk]

Removing it from conf just defaults back to on

[viral cypress]

Weird

[cursive bridge]

just leave it on its fine

[viral cypress]

Get a 3000 series card 🙃

Play lichess

[hidden elk]

hmm

[rocky minnow]

@cursive bridge here's your disco party tiles

[hidden elk]

Showing the messed up motion vectors

[rocky minnow]

wait

you're right

this is what's causing flickering in refractions

hmm

[rocky minnow]

@viral cypress do you have this problem as well

[hidden elk]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/387789607074529281/1147914356403732511/20230827_1.mp4

[viral cypress]

Is this virtual or screen space

[hidden elk]

Virtual

[viral cypress]

I don't have, its all black

[hidden elk]

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[viral cypress]

No matter how hard I move the camera

[hidden elk]

strange occurrences

[cursive bridge]

just black for me as well

[viral cypress]

Oh wait just tried with a clean config and it has motion vectors

But they seem fine

Gotta find out which setting removes it

[frank warren]

Trying to debug Remix... but I'm having trouble hooking a debugger to dxvk-remix. The game may be 64-bit but I never had this issue with Risen. What a weird thing...

Also my shift key doesn't work now. 🤔

[viral cypress]

It is 64 bit :/

[frank warren]

I know that, what I meant was even with no bridge present I was still able to debug Risen... for some reason VS doesn't see dxvk at all.

The last line of the log is err: DxvkSubmissionQueue: Command submission failed: VK_ERROR_DEVICE_LOST every time it crashes trying to open the Remix menu.

The only other games that ever crashed because of imgui were Sword and Fairy 4 and a super borked GOG wrapper attempt to run Might and Magic 8.

[viral cypress]

Does "device lost" mean the game destroyed the d3d9 device?

[frank warren]

Not really sure, this is all a little beyond my knowledge but the game wasn't giving any errors in VS when it happened.

[viral cypress]

The game crashes/turns back to raster when resizing, maximizing window and such. According to Adam it is because it destroys the d3d9 device

[rocky minnow]

Will nsight work along with vs?

[viral cypress]

Hmm found out why, motion vectors only appear on fuse world view mode

You disabled that

@sly root Can you please pin the first message in this thread?

[sick flint]

Need to enable input pass through

[viral cypress]

Btw I was already added this to the dxvk.conf, totally forgot about that 🙂

[sick flint]

Hm welp I’m out of ideas then for awhile

[viral cypress]

@frank warren Do you have the dxvk.conf?

[sick flint]

I haven’t messed with this in awhile, just been hanging out on the sideline.

[frank warren]

Nope, won't be able to take another look for a long while today. I'll get it fixed later tonight.

nvChess is still my main chess focus right now. 😅

[viral cypress]

Is it a regular chess game btw?

I mean is there extraordinary game mechanics

[sick flint]

It’s just another chess game(tm)

[viral cypress]

Chess Titans doesn't require keys btw 🙃

[sick flint]

Blueamulet found a key

[viral cypress]

• Updated dxvk.conf for fullscreen.

[rocky minnow]

What does it add?

[viral cypress]

UI texture hashes

fullscreen ui is different

[rocky minnow]

Different texture hashes?

[viral cypress]

I mean there are new textures which needed to be marked as ui

this config does that

adds up to previous one

[rocky minnow]

strange

Meaning there are new textures for that with Fullscreen

?

[viral cypress]

In fullscreen, the ui elements are different from windowed mode

[rocky minnow]

noted

[viral cypress]

Fullscreen is good but it doesn't allow you to move the camera

Also you need to launch the game twice in order to get ray tracing

Oh wait I will create a script for that

[viral cypress]

@sick flint Do you have an idea on how we can manipulate in game settings real time?

[sick flint]

Like the light source?

[viral cypress]

No, you need to change graphics levels to enable remix in fullscreen mode

Something like cheat engine would work?

So I created a script which sets graphics level to max before launching the game, but you need to manually set graphics level back to 2 in order to get camera

[rocky minnow]

camera?

Does it not detect at higher resolution?

[viral cypress]

No not like that. It doesn't get detected at first

Then you change the graphics settings in game then it suddenly works

[rocky minnow]

interesting behavior

[viral cypress]

d3d9.deferSurfaceCreation = True crashes :/

Raytraced goodness in fullscreen

[rocky minnow]

Fps any good?

[viral cypress]

Nope, my 2060 struggles with dlss quality at this resolution

Also can't get the menu working

it just crashes

Here is the script:

<#
Put the following line to Steam -> Manage -> Properties -> Launch Options
Powershell -ExecutionPolicy bypass -Command & ""%command%/../chess-titans-rtx-launcher.ps1""
#>

$argumentList = @(
    '-mce'
)

Set-Location $PSScriptRoot

Write-Host "Chess Titans - " -NoNewline
Write-Host "RTX" -ForegroundColor Green -NoNewline
Write-Host " Launcher"

$configPath = "$env:LOCALAPPDATA/Microsoft Games/Chess Titans/ChessTitansMCE.xml"

$config = Get-Content -Path $configPath
$config[12] = "    <Rendering>5</Rendering>"
$config[13] = "    <RenderingLast3D>5</RenderingLast3D>"
Set-Content -Path $configPath -Value $config

Write-Host 'Now set graphics level to 3 in game to enable raytracing!' -ForegroundColor Yellow

$process = Start-Process "./chess.exe" -WorkingDirectory '.' -ArgumentList $argumentList -PassThru

Start-Sleep 2
exit

[viral cypress]

@sick flint So I am able to change graphics settings in real time with cheat engine

Just 3 scans

a single memory adress

Seems like it is always the same memory adress

shouldn't it be unique to the instance?

[sick flint]

There's something that changes each time with x64 exes. I wanna say it's offsets?

But I'm not really sure

[viral cypress]

It says the adress idk

[sick flint]

[viral cypress]

So it seems like I need to call a kernel function to write other process's memory space

BOOL WriteProcessMemory(
[in] HANDLE hProcess,
[in] LPVOID lpBaseAddress,
[in] LPCVOID lpBuffer,
[in] SIZE_T nSize,
[out] SIZE_T *lpNumberOfBytesWritten
);

[sick flint]

Oh yea, you gonna wanna look at how asi mods are made

[viral cypress]

Hmm I have no idea how they work 🙂

[sick flint]

Neither do I 😄

[viral cypress]

Some guy written a powershell function to do that, lets see..

[viral cypress]

So with 32 bit executable you can resize the window however you want

[dim delta]

Well with the 32 bit version I had that didn't seem to be the case

[viral cypress]

But maximizing the window causes this

[viral cypress]

I think you have the 64 bit executable

[viral cypress]

Whatever this is

[dim delta]

Yeah, but when I first tried I used a 32 bit version then I switched to the 64bit version when adamplayer made the patch

[viral cypress]

Oh yes the current patch won't work with 32 bit version

But should be simple to do

right, Adam?

[viral cypress]

Alright

forget the 64 bit version

You can get somewhat fullscreen using dxwrapper

And seems like it crashes a lot less

[viral cypress]

i.e. you can open the remix menu whenever you want

[sick flint]

Interesting

Where's the 32 bit version?

[viral cypress]

I extracted it from the win7games.com installer
It won't install the 32 bit version unless the system is

I can send you if you want

[sick flint]

Makes sene

Pls do

[viral cypress]

here

[viral cypress]

@sick flint Seen this?

[sick flint]

Yea it happens when it tries to lock the cursor to a certain spot

[viral cypress]

The built in fullscreen is not ideal

You can't rotate the camera afaik

But you can get this with dxwrapper

I am sure with some tweaking we could get more screen area

The game just refuses to place the window at 0,0

This is at 10,20

[viral cypress]

Any way to prevent it?

[sick flint]

Probably. I don't know of a way off the top of my head

Resizing windows is funky

[viral cypress]

Funky?

[sick flint]

It's handled by a windows api, so it's likely not fun. I've never really messed with it.

[viral cypress]

Oh btw do you need to create a patch again?

Since the offsets are -probably- different

But should be easy right?

[sly root]

try using SRWE

https://github.com/dtgDTGdtg/SRWE/releases/tag/SRWE_v236

you can force borderless fullscreen with it, among other things. if the game changes resolution with window resizing, this should work

[viral cypress]

This thing is awesome

Never heard of before

[sly root]

yeah, it's great. i'm considering forking it to add some basic features (if i can figure out how to), like automatically finding a certain exe upon launch

i'm glad it worked here

[viral cypress]

Yeah it really needs that feature

[viral cypress]

Oh wait

You can do this with dxwrapper too

It wasn't working before because I set the resolution to 1920x1040 accounting for the taskbar

but since it is no longer 16:9 it resets the window layout

Uhm its broken again

Okay got it

[rocky minnow]

is this open source chess titans?

[viral cypress]

you need to set the following lines in the game settings file to high values like:

    <WindowX>100</WindowX>
    <WindowY>100</WindowY>

before starting the game

easy with a script

[viral cypress]

No it is for manipulating an app's window layout

In this case to remove borders & changing resolution

[rocky minnow]

interesting, that means we could test splinter cell again and other window locked games with this

right?

[viral cypress]

You can also do fullscreen with dxwrapper

The chess titans has some odd behaviour

that's why it wasn't working

[rocky minnow]

fullscreen but with lower resolution is not something i want

[viral cypress]

also dxwrapper is for 32 bit only

[rocky minnow]

does this tool do full resolution?

[sly root]

if the game changes the resolution when you resize the window, this will work. otherwise it'll just stretch it

[viral cypress]

yes

[sly root]

i haven't messed much with dxwrapper's fullscreen options

do they not work well?

[viral cypress]

You don't have much options but it works well for me

Like you cant set custom resolution

[sly root]

yeah, i don't even know if that's possible to implement

[sly root]

sadly i don't have enough experience with C# to do this, nor do i have the time to learn 😦

[viral cypress]

Hmm is there launch options

let me check

[sly root]

what do you mean?

[viral cypress]

like srwe.exe -target game.exe blah blah

[sly root]

ah, no afaik

[viral cypress]

Weird I can't get this option working

[sly root]

it works once in a while

barely though, lol

[frank warren]

More swapchain jank huh? 🥹

There's a pretty similar issue with Xuan Yuan Sword 6 on the GitHub page, but it's the opposite-- the window infinitely grows. It's happened with a few RenderWare titles and a few Unity titles.

[viral cypress]

What

[frank warren]

So interesting thing with the swapchain. Is it possible that this is a bridge bug?

The fact that it only occurs in the 32-bit version is so strange.

I don't know much about the Bridge source code but I may start to dive in and see if I can find out what's going on here.

[somber anchor]

Hey guys, @rocky minnow just pointed me to this thread.

Seems like you guys have had some success bringing in custom meshes etc, I kinda gave up on The Thing when I was working with that.

Can someone point me to the latest workflow regarding custom meshes?

[viral cypress]

Everything is stable

You can replace everything you see

Including individual pieces

[somber anchor]

I need more of a workflow, when I tried a few months ago, the UV's of models were broken etc.

I gave up, waiting for the full kit to release, but seems like you guys have figured it out, was hoping for some guidance.

[viral cypress]

You can take a look at tadpole's mod, he might have set up one

[viral cypress]

This game?

[somber anchor]

The Thing

[viral cypress]

Oh Idk about that game but you should be able to work with textured models in this game

[somber anchor]

It was really stable with RTX Remix, but I couldn't for the life of me, figure out how to bring new meshes in cleanly and effectively.

[viral cypress]

Tadpole successfully did

Have you seen the E-Man's addon?

[somber anchor]

Nope

[viral cypress]

for USD Composer

[viral cypress]

https://discord.com/channels/1028444667789967381/1146527055664652449

@somber anchor Here tadpole made a video #1099591203768504421 message

[somber anchor]

Perfect, that's what I'm looking for

Thanks so much

[viral cypress]

So you first make everything in a single usd scene then import it as a whole to the game

[viral cypress]

I haven't messed up with textured ones so better ask tadpole 🙂

I can help with water or lenses 😄

[rocky minnow]

https://github.com/Ekozmaster/NvidiaOmniverseRTXRemixTools

It doesn't mess up the UV of the imported meshes

@somber anchor you can use this

[viral cypress]

Yeah this is the channel

[somber anchor]

Materials I had no issues with, it was more bringing meshes in, I need to find the best way to export meshes out of Blender etc, as I remember there were some shenanigans related to UV's etc

Awesome thanks guys, appreciate it

[viral cypress]

Also you no longer need to triangulate or switch interpolation for remix to recognize it

They added support in the latest branch

[somber anchor]

My meshes tend to be triangulated regardless, I use baked normal maps, so it's required.

[viral cypress]

Though it is for testing only since it will increase loading times and probably reduce overall performance too

[reef comet]

An .asi is literally just a renamed standard .dll. If you're making a .dll to be loaded into the game then you also don't need to use ReadProcessMemory/WriteProcessMemory, those are for accessing other processes you aren't loaded into

[viral cypress]

It was a workaround -on paper- to get fullscreen working, tho we realized that 32 bit version works just fine with dxwrapper's borderless f 🙂

[sick flint]

Yea I’m not trying to load an additional DLL. It’d be a memory modification so I’d have to spin a dev env to make a DLL.

I could study Silent’s ASI mods to see how to make one though. I suppose it’s going to become more and more useful as time goes on

It’s a bit hard for me to find documentation that isn’t related to GTA or Rockstar games.

[reef comet]

Basic memory changes are fairly easy, just set a pointer to an address or to EXE's base address (GetModuleHandle(NULL)) + offset, then dereference and set the value. Small code patches are a combination of VirtualProtect to make the code RWX, memcpy the new bytes in, and then VirtualProtect to restore the page protection. Anything more complicated likely requires a hook/detour where you hook the beginning of the function to either run some custom code before/after the original, or just outright replace it. My favorite library for that atm is MinHook.

[sick flint]

All over my head

I’ll get there one day though

[viral cypress]

Hey Adam, I've taken a look at the x86 binary but I can't find the same structure you've found in the 64 it one. The sleep call, there are couple ones but my mindlessly modifying commands didn't work. I knew it wouldn't be that easy but it would be great not to bother you :/
This is your screenshot btw

[sick flint]

Uh I think it was a sleep call and then jump to a return that I made it skip over in the x64 build.

Yea that’s the one

It’d be pretty wild if the x32 build is different than the x64 by a lot.

[viral cypress]

I am sure it is more or less the same to someone knows what are they doing, which I don't 🙂

[sick flint]

Does the x32 build have sleep calls?

[viral cypress]

Yes

All over the place

I gone through majority of them and mindlessly assembled jumps but unsurprisingly didnt worked 🙂

[sick flint]

The debugging symbols should be public. I don’t know if x86dbg auto loads them tho

[viral cypress]

https://www.askvg.com/enable-hidden-secret-debug-menu-in-microsoft-chess-game-in-windows-7/
Oh boy

I wonder what that full speed render does

[sick flint]

lol don’t tell me it was a keyboard shortcut the whole time

[viral cypress]

Don't worry I won't tell if it is

[sick flint]

[viral cypress]

Nope, it doesn't seem to do anything

[sick flint]

Welp. Check and see what function is at the full speed render location.

[viral cypress]

Uhm..?

[sick flint]

I think they’re memory address? 0x32789

Could be completely wrong tho

Yea that’s not a memory address. My bad. It looked like hex for a second.

[viral cypress]

It doesn't seem like there is a framerate limit at all it goes up to 2000s in motion, I am really curious what that option really does.

That launch argument too

Hmm

Toggle Full Speed Render - Supposedly would make the game run fast on slower computers

[rocky minnow]

so its not related to the sleep cycle

[viral cypress]

You mean they are bundled in the binary?

Or you got them from a file server you've mentioned before

This: #1110245358040260668 message

[sick flint]

No they’re on Microsoft’s pdb server

[viral cypress]

Found this but it fails to download symbols for chess.exe

[sick flint]

Looks super sketchy

[viral cypress]

https://github.com/microsoft/microsoft-pdb

[sick flint]

Oh it’s just the handling of the dark mode

Ida found them so I dunno why you didn’t.

[viral cypress]

Ah I misunderstood, I thought you mean it is sus 😄

[viral cypress]

Yeah I have a custom theme for "full" dark mode

[frank warren]

Full Speed Render was probably already on-- maybe it had to do with artificially frame skipping on low end systems.

[sick flint]

Are you using the x32 exe?

If you have the x64 one nearby, try with that to see if the tool still works

[viral cypress]

8.09.2023 21:14:36 Chess.pdb - Can't connect to distant server
8.09.2023 21:14:44 Chess.pdb - NotFound Not Found
8.09.2023 21:15:16 Chess.pdb - NotFound Not Found
8.09.2023 21:16:07 Chess.pdb - NotFound Site Not Found
8.09.2023 21:16:16 Chess.pdb - NotFound Site Not Found
8.09.2023 22:13:39 Chess.pdb - NotFound Not Found

[viral cypress]

I already did that too

The repo is archived so

[sick flint]

Yes that program be busted.

[viral cypress]

So do I need IDA or x32dbg can do that as well

[sick flint]

I think x32dbg can do it

Not finding anything on it though

I’ll get it solved today More practice in RE the better

[sick flint]

[hidden elk]

[sick flint]

Twas a few down the list

Man patching my exe messes it for some reason

Here's the patch tho

@viral cypress Anything else

[hidden elk]

Adam's the certified hackerman

[hidden elk]

Unrelated to this, but can you check if the crouds in nfs use some advanced shader using that one app that allows you to see and edit shaders, the name of which I don't remember.

[sick flint]

Quite impressed. And toasty from my gpu

[versed coyote]

i feel that looks like some tech demo scene

[hidden elk]

Wonder if there's any other 3d windows games

[sick flint]

We've been on the search

[cursive bridge]

That looks sick

It's all set up to go wild with. I wouldn't move on til you've had a chance to replace each piece with a character from Tekken or turned the table into the bowling alley from Wii sports or something

[sick flint]

Now that you say that

I'm not quite sure why, but enabling volumetric lighting let the pieces look frosted

[cursive bridge]

Oooooh pic plz

[sick flint]

Oh it's the fog in the background

Just makes it look frosted

[cursive bridge]

Oh I see it now as well 😆

Path tracing is wild

Your boards looking cool as well mate

[sick flint]

Time to give my GPU a break and get some crazy models in there

Model the individual grains of wood

[cursive bridge]

Lol

[hidden elk]

Model some bitches

[sick flint]

I can't get any captures to work :/

[cursive bridge]

Oh yea you add them as a new layer in Omni, edit away then remove the capture and save

The mod files been set up wrong I think

[sick flint]

No it's as if the game doesn't output anything to capture

[cursive bridge]

Oh. Is the capture usd file just empty?

Or does it not write a file?

[sick flint]

It says there's stuff in it but it's just nothing

[cursive bridge]

Select one and press f to zoom in on it

A mesh or something from the scene list. Maybe it's just very small or far away

[sick flint]

Nothin

[cursive bridge]

I've made captured in the past just fine, it's how I added that isle of Lewis chess man. Wonder what's going on here

Maybe try another capture?

[sick flint]

All the same :/

[cursive bridge]

Bugger

I've gotta go to bed mate, I'm bushed and my phone's on 2%.

Might be the 32 bit version?

[sick flint]

Nah something is messed up with my captures

[cursive bridge]

Wow that's very broken

Maybe update bridge?

New version yesterday

[somber anchor]

Guys, just wanted to pop in and say that this is some good shit, let me know if you want a custom chessboard or something at some point

[sick flint]

Nah it happens on an old build.

I leave it be for now and think of goofy things to do with this game.

Maybe add a table under the board so we can add things to the table

[sick flint]

Yea I like that idea. Can put goofy/serious objects around the board. Or use different tables with lamps and such.

[viral cypress]

Damn that was fast

Hey Adam, can you add this patch to the repo I created a while ago? I sent you a collab invite:
https://github.com/Kamilkampfwagen-II/Chess-Titans-RTX

Btw I have the necessary config for fullscreen there

[viral cypress]

Hmm Happysufigee had an idea: Attaching a whole room-environment to the chess board. Like a table in a library.

Or a table in a cafe overlooking the Bosphorus

Hmm I wonder how can I add water 😄

Chess pieces -> navy ship

Hmm we could give it a new loading screen

Oh chute what is the can format

[viral cypress]

You've seen nothing mate 🙂

[dim delta]

Add rtx

[viral cypress]

I think of recreating the exact scene while rtx on

[dim delta]

But can't you do that with remix?

[viral cypress]

Yes?

[viral cypress]

I thought you mean simply adding a rtx logo

[rocky minnow]

My Photoshop skills are bad but I can hook up with someone to come up with a good looking intro screen

[rocky minnow]

Not a bad idea

But how can we animate it

[viral cypress]

Marking it as water texture might work

[rocky minnow]

maybe a Spritesheet water body with islands in the back

Jesus chess board

[viral cypress]

No spritesheets for translucents :/

[rocky minnow]

In the middle of water

ah

[viral cypress]

Still makes more sense than floating in space 🙂

[rocky minnow]

then the solution might need some more digging

Pretty strange we can't add animated geometry with remix yet

that's not tied to the games code

[viral cypress]

We need a battleship game where you guess the enemy battleships coordinates

Idk how it is called in English

It has a cool name in my language

[rocky minnow]

Oh I've played that game

[viral cypress]

Alright it is simply called Battleships

[rocky minnow]

I can make a render of what I'm thinking with this idea

[viral cypress]

What about this

[rocky minnow]

im on this

how about a logo?

do we need that or skip?

[viral cypress]

Uhm the resolution is not ok

[rocky minnow]

its ok i got a photoshop dude on this

he will make sure to emphasize on those reflections and add some effect to it

[viral cypress]

I am trying to get more or less the exact shot from the exact location

to the original loading screen

[rocky minnow]

can fov be adjusted?

[viral cypress]

Don't think so

[rocky minnow]

hmmm, i wonder if there's stuff in the game files relating to FOV, maybe we can tinker with that

[viral cypress]

The original has some weird effects hiding the corners so

[viral cypress]

Probably no

Also there is secret debug menu

have you seen that

#1110245358040260668 message

[rocky minnow]

yes i have seen

not really in the mood to test it out rn

but that's good

@viral cypress

would something like this work?

[viral cypress]

Nicee

but that's not nv chess

[rocky minnow]

yea

i'll change it

@viral cypress do you have any suggestion? how should it look?

[viral cypress]

Idk, I don't have a artist mind

I am still trying to get that shot

[rocky minnow]

@viral cypress can you remove the loading chess titans logo from the middle?

like its no use if we add a cool looking screen instead

[viral cypress]

Probably with modifying the localization strings

Done

This

Put inside the en-us folder

[rocky minnow]

good

[sick flint]

We came up with the same idea

[frank warren]

Chess Titans has its own place to select different boards, would it be possible to add additional boards or would the best course of action be to hide/lock the selection menu and let the player change it via USD replacements in ImGui?

[viral cypress]

I don't think there is an easy way to add additional options to the original menu

[sick flint]

You can hot load mod usdas so

[frank warren]

That's what I was thinking yeah, it may be better to have a more intentional looking ImGui menu handle it then remove access to the in-game board/piece selection screen.

[rocky minnow]

How do you get imGUI to do this? Must require some game code access

[frank warren]

I haven't taken a look at it but there used to be a menu in Portal with RTX for "cheats" that would load different companion cube mods, and I believe pieces of that code still exist in the open source release.

You would definitely need to edit the game to disable the switch board menu, not that it's 100% necessary but it would prevent users from accidentally choosing the wrong board and losing all their replacements.

The code for loading these replacements seems to be in src/dxvk/rtx_render/rtx_mod_usd.cpp at line 1301 but... ehh, it looks like it needs some work.

[rocky minnow]

This would be perfect for my idea

hot loading different scenes with it

[frank warren]

Anyone want to write a new ImGui mod selector? 🤣

[rocky minnow]

Nah bro I'm cool 💀

[frank warren]

I'm more than happy to work on the ImGui side of it but I haven't the faintest clue how the actual replacement system works...

I'll probably shelve the idea for later, still need to clean up my RF2/Anox repos for public access and get a few PRs done. 💀

[rocky minnow]

btw did you see the loading screen I sent here?

#1110245358040260668 message

[viral cypress]

That's easy, even I can do it

[viral cypress]

I think that's the go to method for now

[frank warren]

I don't have time this week since I'm learning a new engine for unrelated reasons (and still moving!) but I want to play around this weekend with the idea of a custom secrets menu stopgap for Chess Titans. It should be fairly easy to implement by replacing the macros that exist already.

[sick flint]

I still need to add a table to this game and all the goofy items on the side

Got too busy learning optics.

[rocky minnow]

good thing you can't see the board from below

otherwise the illusion breaks

[sick flint]

Not if we build a cool room

Chess Titan shall be the titan of the RTX Remix Board Game genre.

No need for hdri sky dome trickery if we just simply build an environment

[viral cypress]

We need optics in Chess Titans too, gotta replace bishops with this

[sick flint]

It’d be interesting to add all glass pieces and then have the board have a grid of lasers pointing at it.

Wait we don’t have caustics, rip.

[rocky minnow]

https://y.yarn.co/8ddc50bf-0779-4d9c-962a-2a7f5e52535b_text.gif

[sick flint]

I think we’ve all converged into a hive mind with this game.

[cursive bridge]

New thought. Do we have anyone brilliant/mad enough to make a basic fixed function chess game?

[rocky minnow]

only if we had renderware

it is possible

[cursive bridge]

Huh was expecting laughing in my face

[rocky minnow]

i gotta come out clear lol

you're the second most british man i've encountered

on discord

[sick flint]

You’d have to write it almost from scratch. I don’t have any interest in doing that.

[rocky minnow]

what engine does chess titans use?

[sick flint]

A custom one afaik.

[cursive bridge]

Cheers bruv

[sick flint]

I could dig in the code some more but I didn’t notice anything that said anything in particular

[rocky minnow]

sometimes an image of Lord Flashheart appears in my head when you talk lol

[sick flint]

Here’s the devs game list https://www.mobygames.com/company/8391/oberon-media-inc/

[rocky minnow]

nice

[cursive bridge]

A Blackadder fan 🥹

[rocky minnow]

🫡

[frank warren]

I'm down for this. Want to use OGRE?

[rocky minnow]

hmm

[frank warren]

nvChess is essentially 90% complete though, you lose stable replacements during certain animations on the hologram board but otherwise it's ready to be replaced. Just haven't found the time to make an installer for the RTX compatibility tweaks.

OGRE supports fixed-function fully, we've tested it too.

I had plans for making a basic FPS game specifically for Remix but I've been sidetracked these last two months by life and shenanigans.

[cursive bridge]

Would be awesome, could freely distribute it as we like, work on it as we like. would be perfect

[vapid sentinel]

Ive had an idea of creating a tech demo for rtx remix
Where we have all features displayed

[rocky minnow]

don't forget Kamil's Scope Lens

[vapid sentinel]

Lol

Thats why we have to make it an FPS lol

[rocky minnow]

i never thought it was possible

[frank warren]

Not quite, still gotta hear back on the RTX SDK licensing. nyleplsfix

[vapid sentinel]

COME ON SOMEONE TRY MAKING POM TEXTURES FJBSHDDBDHD

[frank warren]

Remix and OGRE are both fine but we're still waiting to hear on rtxdi, dlss, and all the other plugins. I've read over the TOS and it sounds like we're in the clear but I'd rather hear it from legal.

[cursive bridge]

Doing it now. I got the textures but no where to put them

Yea wait on them

Nvidia will know the crack

[frank warren]

I was thinking it would be awesome to have a first person game where one of your abilities is a shield that looks like a perfect mirror, showing your character's expression in the reflection.

That was one of the first ideas I tossed around when I was conceptualizing the OGRE-Remix game. 🤣

[vapid sentinel]

Information must be all free

[cursive bridge]

oh yea cool, a proper rtx tech demo 😛

[frank warren]

Honestly should we just make a thread for this?

I'd be happy to contribute soonish, what else am I gonna use... Unity?

[cursive bridge]

lol exactly

yea lets start a thread, i'm happy to contribute art but i cant code even in the slighest

[sick flint]

I’ll continue conceptualizing adding 10 million polygons to chess titans

[rocky minnow]

subdivide to infinity

[viral cypress]

I think a board game would be a perfect demo just like the nvChess back in the day

[viral cypress]

This. No modern game engine supports dx9 nor ffr anymore

[sick flint]

There’s actually very few 3d board games that even were developed in the early 2000s :/

[frank warren]

Ogre supports FF to this day, as long as you're not using the Next fork. We've tested it

I'm doing a course this week but I'll get to prototyping a hello world app on my next week todo.

[viral cypress]

Lets create a board game then

[frank warren]

Right now I'm going through an art course and gutting my kanban boards to backlog all Unity game tasks for Unreal porting tasks. 🤣

[hidden elk]

Looks like the protag from orc message

[sick flint]

Mattel lawyers begin drafting the C&D

[sick flint]

Okay, I think I’ve decided the first room for chess titans I’ll make should be some art gallery

[rocky minnow]

Show us

[hidden elk]

Gaussian splats in remix when

[sick flint]

When it’s done, I only have my inspo board coming together now

[rocky minnow]

It's only volumetric

Naht gooth

[rocky minnow]

I had this really amazing idea about one particular scene

A chessboard on a computer desk with CRT monitor in front of our bot opponent with wires coming out of the monitor and into the chessboard accompanied by a gaming PC with a 4090 on the right side and some various random desk props on the left side. the room is dimly lit by a small desk lamp that's focusing right on top of the chessboard

Now for the chessboard, it's like this weird testing setup with Arduino chips and wires (could fancy with a bit of small led lights lol)

[cursive bridge]

Oh yea cool as. Could use AI to visualise it for you a bit?

[rocky minnow]

Hmm

Ofcourse, now that we have that technology

we could visualize

[cursive bridge]

Yea man let's get some concept art going on

[sick flint]

Okay, I did not have the time to model a whole room yet, but I did find the Fireplace Room by Wig42 (CC-BY 3) that I'd like to test with.

[rocky minnow]

jesus

👀

im interested in how this goes

tying all this with a single mesh would be a bit too much, no?

[sick flint]

It's not a single mesh, I broke it up by material

[rocky minnow]

well we do need to anchor it to the chess board

[rocky minnow]

gotta add visual flairs

i like the art direction this is going to take

[sick flint]

That better?

[rocky minnow]

LMFAO

[sick flint]

Scale is a bit off

[rocky minnow]

im kind of worried about the motion vectors

[sick flint]

Nonsense

This scene is easy to render. especially with path tracing in real time

[rocky minnow]

chess for mexican aliens

[rocky minnow]

you got the 12g 3080?

[sick flint]

There are others?

[dim delta]

9fps 👀

[rocky minnow]

mainly 10gb 3080s

[dim delta]

yeah

12gb was a tiny bit faster iirc

[rocky minnow]

excited what you cook up adam

also what is the size of this modification

[sick flint]

Aw my textures

There we go

[rocky minnow]

holy fuck

you got in

why the glass looking kinda strange

[sick flint]

Dunno

[rocky minnow]

no reflections

just refractions

[cursive bridge]

God damnnn man

[dim delta]

That is a rather small chess board

[cursive bridge]

Is this a Chess titans remix speed run

[sick flint]

Or rather a large room

I can't even see Jen

[cursive bridge]

Add a banana for scale. To be sure

[sick flint]

There he is

Oh hey, mirrors work

[cursive bridge]

+10 FPS from including that portrait

[rocky minnow]

missing some reflective properties but that's fine

[dim delta]

Gotta put it in the kitchen with the 3090

[rocky minnow]

actually a great idea

let's put jensen's kitchen

[sick flint]

Need to make the FOV way wider

It's like the whole room is a hidden bonus

[rocky minnow]

that glass not being reflective is brutally painful

[viral cypress]

Whats going on here

[sick flint]

Now we're cooking

[viral cypress]

I just go offline for half an hour and all this happened

@sick flint How much it took to do that

[sick flint]

It's a demo scene. I posted the details earlier

[viral cypress]

Yeah now this is ready to be a NV tech demo 😄

Don't forget to put a 4090 inside an oven

[rocky minnow]

replace the horse with a 4090 model

[viral cypress]

@cursive bridge Will you just let the Adam to dominate Chess Titans's art direction? Where is your scene!

[rocky minnow]

and fill up the room with some random furniture

[hidden elk]

That's

not bad

[rocky minnow]

need that GeForce oven

[viral cypress]

What licences don't allow us to publish that?

Does this count as modified

[hidden elk]

Probably standard and editorial

cc liscences are usually permissible

[viral cypress]

There are lots of free room models in sketchfab we could use then

https://sketchfab.com/search?features=downloadable&licenses=322a749bcfa841b29dff1e8a1bb74b0b&licenses=b9ddc40b93e34cdca1fc152f39b9f375&licenses=72360ff1740d419791934298b8b6d270&licenses=bbfe3f7dbcdd4122b966b85b9786a989&licenses=2628dbe5140a4e9592126c8df566c0b7&licenses=34b725081a6a4184957efaec2cb84ed3&licenses=7c23a1ba438d4306920229c12afcb5f9&q=room&type=models

Yea freedom by chess

[hidden elk]

link

[viral cypress]

https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/the-porcelain-room-407a75f63a624494a61da40f5cd07bd0

Hmm its an 3d scan

looks ok tho

[hidden elk]

It's all scanned

[viral cypress]

Actually a lot of these are 3d scans

Nice ones

Thats bad

[rocky minnow]

can't do per material editing

need something that has modular items

[versed coyote]

i wish i could get sketchfab but since im under 18 (site says you need to be 18+) i really cant

[viral cypress]

What

[versed coyote]

i mean

[viral cypress]

?

[sick flint]

Think I'mma stop cooking for a bit and let my GPU cool

[versed coyote]

Shit my phone,s battery is going to die

[rocky minnow]

https://tenor.com/view/give-me-give-it-to-me-now-gif-6486247

[viral cypress]

You let the sunlight in?

[viral cypress]

Is it fallback light?

or manually placed in ov

[sick flint]

It's in ov

[viral cypress]

Can we add distant lights in ov?

wow

[rocky minnow]

hmm

lets disable the sun and add indoor lights

(only if remix could support better light sources)

[viral cypress]

@sick flint Do you really need to manually set all materials per object?

[sick flint]

It's starting to get way too toasty in here to keep going for now

[viral cypress]

Nice job tho, upload couple ones to https://discord.com/channels/1028444667789967381/1028600697463263314 if you think you're done with it

[sick flint]

Look at the reflections in the glass

[rocky minnow]

imagine being able to load different scenes in an instant

[sick flint]

You can

[viral cypress]

Just needs a gui

[rocky minnow]

nah like

hot keys

instantly swap them

[viral cypress]

Just needs a gui with hotkeys

You could do it with scripting tho

if you only want to switch by hotkeys

[rocky minnow]

this is a big achievement

an idea coming to fruition

[viral cypress]

@sick flint Why not upload it?

[rocky minnow]

licensing issues i presume

i think we can mod the game can we?

[viral cypress]

CC-BY 3

[viral cypress]

To what level

Like what exactly you want

[rocky minnow]

only for remix to work ig?

[viral cypress]

?

[rocky minnow]

what license would that need?

[viral cypress]

I didn't get what you mean :/

[rocky minnow]

nvm...

[sick flint]

Nope just ain't happy with it yet

Need to let it cook some more

[rocky minnow]

alright

[sick flint]

I wanted to see how well it adapted to just having a whole room attached to the board

I'd say it worked well

[viral cypress]

Yea this works really well, it could with trainz simulator as well

[rocky minnow]

we need to market this man

[viral cypress]

Since trains won't go anywhere

we could add like a city of some sort near the railway

[rocky minnow]

are the trains static? and the scenery around is in motion?

[sick flint]

That's nvidia's job. They have a marketing department.

[viral cypress]

Idk, but doesn't matter, it won't collide with anything

[rocky minnow]

oh well they will show your screenshots in the showcase channel in their office

i think

they keep a very special eye on our actions

[viral cypress]

@sick flint Do you have any suggestions if we were to try adding a room around ourselves?

[hidden elk]

Y'all better release things soon

[rocky minnow]

i think if it was like a complete mod, where would we upload it?

normal modding sites?

[hidden elk]

Like release a end user release

[hidden elk]

Probably

Nexus?

[viral cypress]

Why soon tho? You mean it is hard to install right now?

[hidden elk]

Hard for someone who has never touched remix

Ideally a zip that you extract in the game folder and done

[viral cypress]

we are not done with it yet

it has much more potential

[hidden elk]

I know

[viral cypress]

We could change text, remove menus (not add), swap loading screen, textures, sounds, maybe animations too

It's really easy to do with resource hacker

animations are just plain numbers

[sick flint]

Attach it to the board since the camera orbits it

[viral cypress]

Yeah I already figured that out 😄

[sick flint]

Can use a debugger to change camera position and fov in game

[rocky minnow]

? wait, we can?

hmmmm

👀

[sick flint]

Yea for this game

[viral cypress]

fov?

[viral cypress]

We all take screenshots this way

[vapid sentinel]

Smh just use the rtx remix free cam

[viral cypress]

Damn I taught Adam meant that

[rocky minnow]

just play chess in real life

for free

no 2000 dollars 4090 needed

[sick flint]

Can’t change the fov of the free cam I don’t think

[vapid sentinel]

Nuh uh

You can

[sick flint]

News to me. Neat

[viral cypress]

From where tho

[vapid sentinel]

Im pretty sure you can change it in the USDA file
Im pretty sure ive seen it somewhere

[viral cypress]

You sure its not the omniverse camera?

I mean depending on usda for debug camera sounds weird

[vapid sentinel]

Ive seen it in the Portal RTX usda file

[vapid sentinel]

I don't think its for debug purposes

You can actually change the camera position

As a mod

[viral cypress]

I mean free camera

[vapid sentinel]

In rtx remix

[viral cypress]

whatever

#usda 1.0
(
    customLayerData = {
        dictionary cameraSettings = {
            dictionary Front = {
                double3 position = (50000.000000000015, -1.1102230246251565e-11, 0)
                double radius = 500
            }
            dictionary Perspective = {
                double3 position = (500.00000000000006, 499.99999999999994, 499.99999999999994)
                double3 target = (0, 0, 0)
            }
            dictionary Right = {
                double3 position = (0, -50000, -1.1102230246251565e-11)
                double radius = 500
            }
            dictionary Top = {
                double3 position = (0, 0, 50000)
                double radius = 500
            }
            string boundCamera = "/OmniverseKit_Persp"
        }
        string lightspeed_game_name = "Portal_1_TREX"
        string lightspeed_layer_type = "replacement"
        string remix_replacement_status = "Release Ready"
        dictionary renderSettings = {...}
    }
    metersPerUnit = 0.01
    upAxis = "Z"
)

over "RootNode"
{
    over "Camera"
    {
        custom uniform vector3d omni:kit:centerOfInterest = (0, 0, -1148.7331652567711)
        float3 xformOp:rotateXYZ = (51.877254, 0.000037718302, -6.3825345)
        float3 xformOp:scale = (0.99997497, 0.99996805, 1.0000205)
        double3 xformOp:translate = (-109.073, 411.363, 962.962)
        uniform token[] xformOpOrder = ["xformOp:translate", "xformOp:rotateXYZ", "xformOp:scale"]
    }

This is inside replacements.usda

Nothing related to fov I see

[frank warren]

You're all amazing. Can't wait to do this in nvChess, unfortunately this Unity debacle is really setting me back.

I can say that the creator of nvChess got back to me and provided me a personal key for the game. What a lad. 😁

[viral cypress]

I can add translucent pieces 🙃

I mean that's all I can do

[versed coyote]

i mean if you want create a sketchfab account you must be atleast 18

[viral cypress]

I think it is for restricted content, tho you need to manually enable to see those listed

[versed coyote]

Still

https://sketchfab.com/blogs/community/upcoming-changes-to-sketchfab-policies/
"If you are under 18 years of age, your account will be closed. If you have any models in your account, you will no longer be able to access them there."

[frank warren]

I still need to make the repo public for nvChess, once I drop the dds textures from the repo I'll put it out there. Replacements are mostly stable, the main exception is the ice piece while being captured and any animation state for the hologram board.

Translucent pieces would be awesome for the ice board.

[sick flint]

I need to open a window to let this room cool down

[sick flint]

Scans are nice for geometry ||Although I think a lot of the ones on sketchfab really need more input data cause they don't have much detail up close||, but they aren't very fun to get into a PBR material state.

Will it render

[viral cypress]

Yea I didn't realized they're 3d scans at first 😦

[viral cypress]

Now with real time gpu cooking path tracing

[hidden elk]

Will the rays

Trace

[rocky minnow]

absolutely

can we just hide the chess board

and roam around the Sponza

and admire the beautifully tracing of the rays

[hidden elk]

Might as well load it in blender and look around in rendered view

[rocky minnow]

eh

remix

[hidden elk]

no

[sick flint]

What scene would you prefer?

[hidden elk]

huh

[sick flint]

Is sponza not the vibe for chess?

[hidden elk]

Nah looks fine

[rocky minnow]

#1110245358040260668 message can you make something like this?

[sick flint]

Maybe. I'm no where near as good at modeling as I am lighting

[rocky minnow]

ok that's cool

i'll just do some experimenting with it

[sick flint]

I like the vibe tho

[sick flint]

Sponza is 126 materials that I'll have to make work so I'll hold off on that for a bit

[sick flint]

Came to the conclusion that I'm basically making test render scenes for remix

[cursive bridge]

And doing a damn fine job

[hidden elk]

But that's blender

[sick flint]

Okay here's it in OV

[hidden elk]

No textures

Still not remix

[sick flint]

Decided intel's sponza be more impressive

[vapid sentinel]

Yeah input every vert to rtx remix manually

[sick flint]

Then I gotta trace each ray by hand

[hidden elk]

[sick flint]

Cooking

[sick flint]

Simple mesh replacement

[rocky minnow]

inb4 the 3080 gives up on it's life

[viral cypress]

How it looks in game 👀

Yea I would much prefer having a floating chess board in the middle of this scene rather than a floating chess board in the middle of void

[sick flint]

I got too sleep to continue. I shall try in game tonight

[sick flint]

I should make a distribution of these USDs for benchmarking.

[rocky minnow]

Any Progress

alright im going to experiment with some SweetHome3d software

it could make rooms and place in props with ease

[sick flint]

Nah. I got the first floor done but haven’t tried it in game yet

[viral cypress]

@sick flint Can you upload your patch into the github repo? I know I asked before but I thought you might have forgotten #1110245358040260668 message

https://github.com/Kamilkampfwagen-II/Chess-Titans-RTX

[sick flint]

You can upload it if you'd like, I don't mind. Just as long as credit is given 👍

[viral cypress]

I want you to please, I sent the invite

[sick flint]

I shall later today

[sick flint]

Remix is angry at this complexity

Oh I had reference mode on

I will say one thing, OV loads up intelsponza much faster than blender but I think its due to caching

[cursive bridge]

My god that's awesome

It's really reflecting in the chess pieces!

[sick flint]

It's like paint by numbers

[hidden elk]

Fun

[sick flint]

I think remix is crashing from loading the mod.usda

Mark, why doesn't remix like loading 1GB usd files

[hidden elk]

[sick flint]

@viral cypress I don't have write access on your repo

[cursive bridge]

I appreciate the music. On point as always

[sick flint]

Okay, so I think if I use the scene optimizer to reduce the size of the USD, I might get it to work again.

[cursive bridge]

Surely mod.usda wouldn't have a size limit

[hidden elk]

Surely

[cursive bridge]

The vertex count and stuff is in the another USD file ain't it?

Mod.usda would just point to it I would have thought

[sick flint]

Oh it's falling apart trying to parse the one with all the geometry, but it's refenced in the mod usda

[cursive bridge]

Ah ok can you split the big bugger in half?

Sound like some Egyptian king

[sick flint]

Maybe

All textured

[cursive bridge]

Wow this is awesome

Bet you wish the camera could look up

[sick flint]

In the game?

[cursive bridge]

Yea

[sick flint]

Tiny sponza

Actually I like the big chess

[cursive bridge]

Sponza to e4

[sick flint]

Out of memory error occurs

Okay time to make my gpu cry

[cursive bridge]

Textures maybe ? Think you might need to split it into chunks

[sick flint]

I tried flattening it this time. Next time is the scene optimizer, and then after that it's breaking up by floor

[cursive bridge]

Lots of options then. I'm gonna bounce for the day

Good luck mate

[sick flint]

[sick flint]

Hopium

I think it crashed

Hm

Okay

So

If you disable enhanced assets and then enable it later

All good

If they're enabled when launching, it falls apart

6gb vram usage

[hidden elk]

Ok

But

Show around

[sick flint]

Aw man the decals persisted, they show up as gray

Rip it crashed

Seconds before disaster.jpg

I think I need to redo the cloth texture conversion. The colors seem way off in remix

Sponza chess

Also I wanna add lights to these since they originally had them. The emissive texture looks really meh

Back in the oven it goes

Note how much more vibrant the clothes are

[sick flint]

Night sponza

So launching Chess Sponza requires that the mesh addition be turned off when initally loading the game, and then once the game is running, you can turn it back on in OV or enable enhancements

[rocky minnow]

Looking nice

Is this chess in hell?

[sick flint]

No I didn’t dial in the lighting yet

Needed to take a break

[sly root]

lol

[sly root]

breaks are good 🙂

[viral cypress]

Why you guys have to do the cool stuff at 4 am gmt+3 which by the time I am long gone sleeping

[viral cypress]

Weird my invite is gone and but you're not an collaborator

You sure you haven't accidently rejected ?

[sick flint]

That's possible

[viral cypress]

let me invite again

[sick flint]

I got like 30 min before I need to sleep so let's see what I can get done

Write access to main

Muh sponza

[viral cypress]

Yea there is nothing there 😉

I wonder do games need to look "right" without eye adaptation don't they

Portal RTX looks alright without it

But many games don't, so I need to adjust exposure?

[sly root]

man that's impressive

how did you insert it into the scene. did you need to anchor it to an existing mesh?

[viral cypress]

Yea the chess table I think

Since there is any interaction we could put anything really

[sly root]

i was considering doing an ultra hacky thing to get around culling in Barnyard with that method. basically do a ton of captures, merge the meshes, then just anchor it to something always in rendering view, lol

[sly root]

is that the only table in this game? as in: can there be different scenes per table?

[sick flint]

It's anchored to the board

I could do a diff scene for each board I think?

[viral cypress]

There are 3 in the original game but its just switching textures. We could use something similar to secret cubes in the portal to switch scenes

[sick flint]

But nothing on this scale

[viral cypress]

unfortunately they're hardcoded at the moment

[sly root]

well, i'm looking forward to whatever you guys do

[viral cypress]

👀

[sly root]

i just imagined a scene like near an ocean with a beach and palm trees and all that. that sounds uh... complex to say the least. would be beautiful though

[cursive bridge]

Jesus this looks awesome! How is this chess titans lol

[sick flint]

No idea how to do water with replacements

Also we don't have caustics so

[sly root]

oh ya, how do you reset reference mode after toggling it the first time?

[sly root]

the angle i was thinking of wouldn't really require it. moreso just the surface of the coean

[sick flint]

Wait a little bit or click on the reset history button under denoiser

[viral cypress]

It is impossible to do animated ones I think

[sly root]

i only know how to do static water sadly

[sly root]

i've been meaning to ask Mark about this for a long time now. if anyone asks please ping me

[viral cypress]

If the game has the water surface and you're replacing the material you can mark the old material hash as animated water texture and enable it in the config

It will animate the normals

In this case we need to put the plane ourselves so not possible

[sly root]

mhm. that's what i meant, no idea how to do it when the original game doesn't provide it

it's sad. i do hope this is possible in the future

[sick flint]

Just to note I think this scene is something like 3mill tri

[sly root]

are you using DLSS 3.5 btw?

[sick flint]

No

[sly root]

it might help. personally i didn't see a difference in Portal RTX though

[viral cypress]

I asked this before, there is no way to do this with that way.

[sly root]

oh 😦

[viral cypress]

If translucent materials had sprite sheet support that would be possible

I opened an issue but someone said it could tank the performance

[sly root]

have you messed around with transparent colored pieces yet? i'm sure it'd look beautiful, like that window from COD 2

[sly root]

i'll monitor that issue then, i'm curious where this will go

[viral cypress]

If you want colored shadows it requires the material to be thin walled which eliminates the refractions

sad

[sly root]

oh 😦

[sick flint]

No I spent most of the time getting this scene setup. Took quite some time to figure out how to load this 400+MB USD without it crashing

[sly root]

we need to compile this info better. i've been doing my best to, but i haven't been able to read chats anywhere near as much recently

https://github.com/AnswerOverflow/AnswerOverflow

we're going to be implementing this soon. this should allow anyone to see the info posted in #1055002308649427004 and #1095534398134300682 from a simple search online

oops

i meant this to be in #server-feedback, lol

sorry

[sick flint]

Color bouncing

[viral cypress]

I was just about to say put some in showcase

[sick flint]

Bit of chunky mod folder now

[viral cypress]

How much vram does it use

[sick flint]

6GB min

"Crashes" on anything less

(It seems to hang on loading it)

[viral cypress]

That hurt

[sly root]

6 GB seems okay to me for what it's doing

i expected more actually

[viral cypress]

have you tried low quality textures setting?

[viral cypress]

Its okay to me as well, not to my gpu tho

[sly root]

ah 😦

[sick flint]

Okay I think I got it down to a managable size

[viral cypress]

Unused textures or something?

[sick flint]

Yea the PNG textures are 3GB

[viral cypress]

This is for one scene tho

[sick flint]

Yep

[viral cypress]

We would probably need to ship scenes separately

[sick flint]

I don't intend on this being something that is distributed a lot.

More of a tech demo

[viral cypress]

I mean like people could make their own scenes and publish it in like a gallery of some sort

[sick flint]

Of course

I gotta figure out another scene to adapt or create

[sly root]

if these assets are legal to distribute, it's kind of an ideal tech demo to share imo