Need for Speed: Most Wanted (2005)

[vernal ermine]

Nonsense

[opaque junco]

Lol

[vernal ermine]

400k tri roads

[opaque junco]

Have you considered photoscaning a road?

I could do it for ya but the suns shining

[vernal ermine]

Nah, the roads in these games are really wonky and it’s easier to just work with the textures they had.

They’re a 1:8 ratio

So even using substance to generate more PBR parts will be annoying.

I need to try it though since having displacement will help a lot of the surfaces from looking flat

I went and jogged my memory on why that ratio was annoying and it’s that the height gets stupid big when trying to get above 2048 on the width.

So I’m limited to 1024x8192

[opaque junco]

could blend a very long scan with the old textures still though right?

[vernal ermine]

Hmm that could work

[hallow silo]

Heyo adam, can you share your rtx.conf?

Oh nvm

its in repo's root

should we move it to a rtx-remix-defaults like in U2?

[vernal ermine]

Nah I like it where it is

I’m going to shift to using the subusd format tho

Been busy with all these little side things lately.

[hallow silo]

wdym?

like, organizing files in hierarchies, johnny decimals and stuff?

Hmm my game is booting offset from 0,0 and no widescreenfix settings are helping

[vernal ermine]

It’s the format that portal RTX uses I think.

[vernal ermine]

Try setting it window border mode 4

[hallow silo]

Idk where my scripts folder came from

its not on your repo, nor did I install any widescreen fix myself

[vernal ermine]

A ghost

[vernal ermine]

I’ll write up a spec on it here this afternoon if you’d like.

[hallow silo]

Can you send me your widescree ini script?

[vernal ermine]

Yea in a bit 👍

[hallow silo]

Hmm weird. I'm using this one https://github.com/ThirteenAG/WidescreenFixesPack/releases/tag/nfsmw but remix won't boot up. Crashing immediately without opening the game

[vernal ermine]

Did you change d3d9. To asi?

[hallow silo]

Hmm nope. I changed dinput8 to dsound and it worked, but no enhancements were loaded. Lemme try that

Yeah, still the same

[vernal ermine]

Ohhh you gotta change your graphics settings to max

[hallow silo]

Ohh

[vernal ermine]

Textures and meshes change completely from that

I have to do it each time I load it which is annoying.

I should look into forcing it to use certain graphics settings

[hallow silo]

Alright, looking great

[vernal ermine]

You also need to go to a different scene for it to apply so, change settings and then go to the career garage

Oh jez. I never pushed the update with the original game textures.

Yikes

I shall fix that first

[hallow silo]

Hmmm by disabling enhancements, the car material comes back. DId you replace it with a gray metallic material?

[vernal ermine]

It's a white one

[hallow silo]

Hmm good, good. Thought the game was doing something weird with car paint to make our lives worse

[vernal ermine]

Hm I did push the update with the right textures.

Not sure why yours looks so different

[hallow silo]

Hmm gotcha. I cloned before your push

[vernal ermine]

Hm I guess it is that shiny

I forgot to invert the roughness on it

[hallow silo]

Here comes the first PR. Changed the format of gitignore from blacklist to whitelist, so we add the files we want to track rather than removing every single we don't
https://github.com/adamplayer/MostWantedRTX/pull/1

Also added raw USD files to LFS. Those meshes can get quite large to track by git

[vernal ermine]

Went through and did the pavement for the main menu in substance

[opaque junco]

Niiiiice

[vernal ermine]

Not so good looking in game

[opaque junco]

Tweak the height map first. I'd lower the large shapes mate. Maybe it needs to be more flat?

When I make one I start with the 3 height map sliders, then roughness and lastly I add a normal/height adjustment filter and tweak my normal.

Looks cool though, what don't you like about it?

[vernal ermine]

Looks like the moon

Hmm that movement with the camera is a bit not good

For some reason I had the displacement map set as the normal map

Looks a lot better

[opaque junco]

Oh hell yes that's the stuff

You added pom?

[vernal ermine]

Yep

Going to try the career garage next

[opaque junco]

Yea looks awesome

Have you added the water filter onto your substance sampler creation yet?

So cool

[vernal ermine]

This one will be perfect for that

[opaque junco]

Yea perfect. You can control where it goes with the mask option. Just paint a blob

[vernal ermine]

[opaque junco]

Woah

[vernal ermine]

Think it's ready to come out of the oven

Hmm... maybe not

[opaque junco]

Did you remember to convert your normal map to octopus 🐙?

[vernal ermine]

I think my tiling is off

[opaque junco]

Yea maybe, I'm gonna tap out, sleepy . catch you tomorrow

[vernal ermine]

[vernal ermine]

Okay I gotta go do errands. I'll return for more texture fun

@hallow silo lemme know if you think of any texture that needs some love in paticular

[hallow silo]

I was thinking about give it a go to the asphalt textures to begin with, since they give the biggest impact right of the bat

[frail ermine]

Why puddles?

[vernal ermine]

Original game had them

[vernal ermine]

I was just starting to work on one too

I need to add more puddles to the garage tho. Looking at the original one it’s like a soaked floor rather than a deformed one

[hallow silo]

Oh good. If you wanna take that one, I'll focus on something else, maybe sidewalks, walls and stuff

[vernal ermine]

I can send you a contact sheet/thumbnails of all the textures in the game if that helps.

[hallow silo]

If you have something already setup for replacements then that would help, otherwise its just a matter of capture and picking next one to work with

[vernal ermine]

No not really. I have the textures on the repo that I setup with the x360 textures but that's about it

[uncut citrus]

The repo needs to pulled through git or desktop here as well correct?

https://tenor.com/view/cars-nodder-slow-poke-traffic-pixar-gif-17690062

[uncut citrus]

game insta crashes but the widescreen patch is initializing and I saw dxvk hud for a sec
tried renaming dinput8 and also changing to d3d9.asi

must be missing something

[vernal ermine]

Did you set your dxvk.conf to have shadermodel 0?

[uncut citrus]

yes it actually dl'd from repo like that

[vernal ermine]

Weird that it says no camera detected.

[hallow silo]

Mine worked fine with this setup and:
https://github.com/NVIDIAGameWorks/bridge-remix/actions/runs/6099434198 (#29)
https://github.com/NVIDIAGameWorks/dxvk-remix/actions/runs/6100541526 (#235)

[uncut citrus]

ok

[hallow silo]

Happens all the time. Guess its some cutscene moment, stuff like that

with many games*

[uncut citrus]

with files you gave

stays open for a couple seconds longer

[hallow silo]

The files I have

[uncut citrus]

And where did you apply the ips?

[vernal ermine]

speed.exe

[uncut citrus]

Okay that all matches up for me then.
Does the exe have to be named speed.exe?

[vernal ermine]

Nope

[uncut citrus]

Hm

[vernal ermine]

What's your game folder look like?

[uncut citrus]

Exactly the same as what e man sent.
Pulled repo to root folder, dropped in remix, swapped to the custom version after the suggestion, dropped in the files from the zip he sent.

[vernal ermine]

I'm running out of ideas.

[uncut citrus]

Any specific settings for the widescreen patch maybe?
Not at pc for the moment so idk if if the ini was in the zip E man sent

[vernal ermine]

Maybe skip intro videos?

[uncut citrus]

Okay I’ll take a look in a minute

tf

there were two widescreen patches in my scripts

[vernal ermine]

Well that'll throw a wrench in things

Oh I need to update substance, apparently they improved the ai material gen

[uncut citrus]

ooo

now I just have to get it to run in 4k

nvmd I got it

[vernal ermine]

Take two on the main menu floor

[frail ermine]

what road textures do you use? There is a mod pack that has really high quality road textures (upscaled X360 ones)

[analog island]

i think its 360 textures with the height map applied

[frail ermine]

pretty low quality though

[analog island]

it can be improved but could affect performance

[frail ermine]

i have smth like this laying around

[analog island]

you need like a pretty good height map for those cracks to be there

[frail ermine]

since i dont know what program adam is using i cant try with that... only can show you materialize results

[vernal ermine]

Substance

With some fun UV tiling going on in the preview cause it doesn’t like the ratio at all

[vernal ermine]

X360 ones are the best source we got. So working off of them is the best way forward.

Also I bought more data for the GitHub repo so it should be working again

I need to reduce its size tho cause them USDs be taking up a bit of storage

[opaque junco]

Oh that substance aspect ratio thing is annoying. To fix it make your canvas square in Photoshop before you bring it into sampler and crop after export. All the filters make stuff in square pixels and it's gets loooong

You'll need data outside the original texture so I normally just copy the texture left and right of the original aspect ratio

[analog island]

https://youtu.be/jUmGSUdinDg?si=h9jNUNjWBqie8M66

maybe.....

only if HP worked

[vernal ermine]

Ooo I’ll have to try that

[opaque junco]

One of those lil work arounds you pick up ain't it

[vernal ermine]

Yeah, it was giving meh results from the distortions

Since I have 1:8 ratio, just duplicate the texture 8 times so I get a square?

I can apply a crop in substance to bring it back to the ratio I want after I do all my layers I think

[opaque junco]

Yea that'll do it

You can add a filter called transform and stretch it horizontal and export to 1024x8196 as well

[frail ermine]

But thats a really really bad result then

[opaque junco]

What do you mean?

[frail ermine]

When you strech it After he added the other textures to make it 1:1

[opaque junco]

Were not stretching it

[frail ermine]

You literally saud stretch

Ah, sry i get it now

[opaque junco]

We're cropping out the duplicated road pieces with a stretch

Ah ok

[vernal ermine]

1024 wide would be 16392 tall

[opaque junco]

Oh got it backwards, 8196x1024

16k is the future

[vernal ermine]

Ah so rotate it horizontally?

16k with texels made for 256

[opaque junco]

No need to rotate. Just stretch the single road to fill the canvas and export out the the size it would be before the Photoshop cloning and your all set

[vernal ermine]

Think I'm getting the hang of using substance

[frail ermine]

Seems complicated xD

Substance painter?

[vernal ermine]

Substance sampler

[frail ermine]

Ah ok

[opaque junco]

You can import a height map btw. You could draw around those metal bits in white with a black background and import it as height map. Then use a height to normal filter

[sinful seal]

🤯 😮

[vernal ermine]

I think I got the floor down

Repo has been updated with them

[analog island]

Jeez

🤯

[opaque junco]

My god that's good 🔥

[vernal ermine]

I think I might get some UI mod to make the garage scenes more visible. I feel like half of the screen is vignette and the graffiti parts.

[severe terrace]

where i can get the repo

[severe terrace]

i hate vignette

[uncut citrus]

https://github.com/adamplayer/MostWantedRTX/pull/1

[severe terrace]

thanks

[vernal ermine]

Shiny

[analog island]

what if there was a system within remix that could transfer the glossy material across all the paints we apply

[severe terrace]

yes there is

[analog island]

i mean surely there must be a way to identify such changes

[severe terrace]

just used remix settings to make chrome

[vernal ermine]

You can setup the decals and paint with car texture/material in mod usda.

[analog island]

But if you change the paint in-game it resets to matte finish, right?

And there's no way to transfer the same roughness values for the new texture hash

[vernal ermine]

Probably. You’d can do whatever you want to the material/decals outside of the game though which I find more flexible.

Though MW and later games have texture layering so you’d only need to do the base layer. I think decals get put in a separate layer/texture.

Special liveries do have their own thing going on that mess things up like the m3.

[severe terrace]

all vehicle colors working without the mod...why they are white with mod

[vernal ermine]

Cause that’s the color of the texture

Change it to whatever ya want

[severe terrace]

it works...as we all know this cars base color is blue

added terrain system color looks cool

[vernal ermine]

Are you using reference mode?

[severe terrace]

no...i never use denoise...its desabled

[vernal ermine]

Gotcha. Wondered why it was noisy

[severe terrace]

but y cars in the mod white...u guys doing something wrong

[vernal ermine]

Cause I just picked a color, you can change it to whatever you want

[severe terrace]

thee what about liveries

[vernal ermine]

Add it to the car texture in photoshop/kitra/paint. It can be whatever ya like.

[severe terrace]

so its not gonna work in game..needs to be dont outside of game....thats so much hassle...

[severe terrace]

but 1 thing are u also facing sky weird lighting ?

[severe terrace]

if u are making it for people thats not good for user experience

https://tenor.com/view/judging-nope-leaving-im-out-see-ya-gif-21005233

[vernal ermine]

Making it for myself

[magic gorge]

What

[dark umbra]

Adam, game is looking really great but these is most common textures that missing PBR, pls can you make them? PBR for grass would be also very nice.

[analog island]

we could use POM for grass cuz it looks very nice

wanna see?

its kinda like this

should be good enough

[severe terrace]

i love the sunlight

[dark umbra]

if only the sun was there XD

[dark umbra]

what is interesting, there is some crossings that already replaced, so game just have same texture which needs to be replaced twice

[vernal ermine]

I’ve been working on redoing the road textures with substance instead of just translating them straight. So I am working on it.

[dark umbra]

About car paints, i was messing around with terrain checkbox, so i could apply any PBR parameters i want, the only downside that we already know is that textures get projected from the top, so car livery's does not look accurate.
Would be cool if remix devs added same option but without top texture projection.
Than that would solve pretty much all of the car paints problems.

[sinful seal]

🫡

[uncut citrus]

Not 16k res so bad

[vernal ermine]

it's 512?

[opaque junco]

@vernal ermine press the buttons!
https://youtu.be/GjGkFA0x7c0?si=vZhXzxQcOgVpEkpD

[vernal ermine]

512x4096 is as big as substance sampler wants to export

[opaque junco]

Oh no

[vernal ermine]

It get's too blurry any way if you go bigger than that

[opaque junco]

Yea fair enough, you'll run into memory issues won't ya

[vernal ermine]

In substance yea

[opaque junco]

I have to close it often or it just fills my vram

[vernal ermine]

It gets buggy in general if left open too long for me

Classic Adobe grade software

[opaque junco]

I wonder if we can make a filter with designer to split these textures into multiple smaller textures we can crop together in chainner afterwards

Can you import a 16k texture I wonder?

We could use the transform filter to scale and position it into a square after material generation is finished and export 8 2048*2048 maps or something

[vernal ermine]

The texture would have to be about 4,096x32,768 to get a texel density of 10.24

So uh 134MP texture

[opaque junco]

Oh god

[vernal ermine]

That's going off if the roads are 12ft / 3M wide

[opaque junco]

It looks Hella good already tbh. It's a trade off of resolution Vs repeating details ain't it

[vernal ermine]

Yea it looks pretty good considering it's just tweaked X360 textures

[opaque junco]

Maybe we can pester mark for a detail normal map?

You got the shine on the road just right mate

[vernal ermine]

Nah, I wanna move on from the roads. They're holding me back from importing sponza

[opaque junco]

Inspiration everywhere

Change the car to sponza!

Sponza wheels!

[vernal ermine]

VRAM shattering fun

[opaque junco]

Lol

[vernal ermine]

What I'd really like is to get the damn sky to not be bleh Need to time travel and yell at the devs

[severe terrace]

is there way to disable static shadow?

[vernal ermine]

Mark them as ignore

[severe terrace]

i did alot of them for some reason now hey reset

[opaque junco]

Wish I could swap the sky in cod as well. Need hdri

[severe terrace]

if they have texture for the sky then u can

[hallow silo]

I have an idea for the sky and sun. Considering the sky sphere mesh is quite large and the game only renders a tiny fraction of the city, we could get away with adding a point light. Its not perfect orthographic like directional ones, but being far away enough, it could fake it quite good

[severe terrace]

Try finding sun texture and set it to sky texture...

[severe terrace]

this is the hashes that disable the sun...how to use it any one know

[Group0_VertexShaders]
ShaderHash0=312307011
AmountHashes=1

[Group0_PixelShaders]
ShaderHash0=3113095289
AmountHashes=1

[vernal ermine]

There’s a function that handles drawing the sun that I plan on just making it skip.

It’s in the slow cooker so it might take some time to come to fruition

[verbal warren]

This one is epic

[analog island]

https://youtu.be/PUX6Y5ipINY?si=H0kfmhTs0ybDjKeG

[vernal ermine]

Neat 📷

[analog island]

Ned Fo Sped Mot Wated

[vernal ermine]

I need to get some better foliage going. The jpeg trees be ruining the vibe.

[analog island]

replace trees with actual alpine models

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-nodding-pepe-the-frog-mmhm-pepea-gif-5925275

[vernal ermine]

Why wouldn’t I?

Just gotta keep it under a few mill polygons

[gritty vector]

raaad 🔥🔥🔥

[vernal ermine]

Yay trees

Denoiser doesn't like that it moves but

[vernal ermine]

Aw man, the colors are done through vertex coloring

[dark umbra]

I know green trees look nice like hot pursuit challenges mod, but obviously we need lore friendly autumn trees.
Anyway denoiser doing amazing job, with RR that will be spot on.

[severe terrace]

3d... did RR came to remix

[vernal ermine]

I think I'll end up having to make all the leaves be the same color. They have vertex coloring right now to make them brown but that doesn't carry through to remix.

[vernal ermine]

Got some fall colors going now Workflow for replacing trees is good. Need to figure out how to do the grass more efficiently.

[analog island]

what do you think would be appropriate for grass replacements?

billboard texture models?

[vernal ermine]

Modeled grass clumps

I need to figure out how to do like an alpha mask on the leaves geometry so it’s not using a transparent texture.

[analog island]

hmm

seems difficult

this doggy looking website i found might have the thing youre looking for

[vernal ermine]

Huh. The grass Im using is fine, I just don’t have a streamlined way of adding it to the scene yet.

[analog island]

is there a limit on how many child meshes can we attach to the parent mesh?

[vernal ermine]

Nope

[vernal ermine]

So apparently I can do it with some geometry nodes voodoo.

Where my blender wizards at?

[analog island]

@lunar schooner your expertise are desperately required here

[lunar schooner]

hi

[vernal ermine]

What would the geo node approach to masking geometry based on alpha channel? Similar to this gif.

[hallow silo]

If you just need a cutout of some leaf samples, use the knife tool (K)

Geo nodes would be more useful to actually scatter the samples around the geometry surface

[vernal ermine]

I’ll have to see if I can figure out how to modify the original instance of the leaf, I think cutting it up with the knife will be the easiest.

[hallow silo]

I really don't know what would be more taxing on performance for such type of trees. They have way more leaves than a palm tree, to some point that it might start to become a bottleneck and you'd have to rely back on alpha cutouts + OMM

Since I haven't dealt with any such trees yet in the runtime, I have no idea on performance impact

[vernal ermine]

Aw man the license for the foliage plugin says no use outside of rendering 😦

Back to the drawing board

[wide warren]

we need...PISSS

very yellow and dark green XD

DIRTYY

[lunar schooner]

Just.... don't tell them that you used it

Ez

[vernal ermine]

[vernal ermine]

Just realized I was making things difficult by doing everything in blender instead of doing it in OV. I can just create the grass clumps and trees and then place them using OV.

[hallow silo]

Indeed, for sparse bushes, trees and such, best you do is export them from blender and add in OV. Geo nodes would be better if you need to cover large portions of surface with lots of small clumps and such which becomes a pain to do by hand, in such cases its best to export all the clumps as a single mesh than manually add them one by one.
Anyway, if you have an reusable asset like a tree, another tip would be to:

• Export it from blender as a USD file
• In OV create another empty USDA file (and save it first thing), and then create a Xform, add the USD file as reference, create your materials and assign to the meshes
• And important: Assign the root prim as default prim. Then save the usda again
  Now, on a capture you can reference the assembled USDA as replacement asset rather than the raw USD file. This allows you to constantly reexport the mesh as you iterate on it without losing the materials (and any other settings like double/single sided, etc.) assembled in the top layer

[tawny ferry]

has anyone tried this on Carbon?

[vernal ermine]

Lots of times

Doesn’t work

The more I try to understand why it doesn’t the more lost I become

[gritty vector]

ray reconstruction in rtx remix when

[analog island]

maybe this month

But it does not remove ghosting

Pretty sad

[dark umbra]

Most of the old ghosting is gone, but it adds new ghosting, its way less noticeable, and overall picture is much better. But best thing is way more stable (no shimmer) and crisper (when using 3.5dll) image.

[analog island]

shadows will have more coherency when the cars will go plaid

[severe terrace]

just disable eyeadaptation ghosting becomes the ghost

[severe terrace]

how to remove white texture of cars after making it to pbr...does removing rouhgness texture will fix it ?

[vernal ermine]

You change the texture or delete the material

[vernal ermine]

So looking more into what I can use to for foliage it seems that I’ll just have to learn how to use sapling or mtree in blender and just recreate each generic tree for the game. So that’ll be the next step.

Thankfully the devs kept the name of the tree species in the texture name so I got that to follow

[dark umbra]

Just remember to make them like original game (yellow-brown'ish)

[vernal ermine]

Yea I gotta make the textures and everything this time so

[severe terrace]

remix dont show the sun...

[vernal ermine]

I found out you can use the BAM mod to just move the sun wherever you want.

[severe terrace]

will it be visible in remix

sunlighting anyway works

[vernal ermine]

Yea? It follows the games sun

[severe terrace]

wdym

yea?

[vernal ermine]

Yea it’s visible in remix, just as it always has been. We never got the sun to go away

[analog island]

disable its code

do your x64dbg thingy Adam

😛

[vernal ermine]

One day

I want it to not create like 10000 distant sources as well

[pure quarry]

didnt they used pre-made textures? the trees in san andreas for example from a texture library made by an independent company, not rockstar

[vernal ermine]

Doesn’t matter. I don’t have the legal team to fight it

[severe terrace]

i cant see sun and moon in any of the games with remix

never seen

[normal lion]

have fun with the textures https://polyhaven.com

[vernal ermine]

I got substance and marmoset, materials are where it’s at

[normal lion]

well i hope yuo can still use it for reference and shortcuts

[vernal ermine]

Okay so I think that method breaks any mesh that gets the nested USDA.

[hallow silo]

Weird. I've been arranged many meshes into a single one for some while already. I'll take a closer look later

[vernal ermine]

If ya want to, I can always modify the usd itself in blender anyway without much trouble so

[frail ermine]

looks like nfs heat now...

and maybe you want to decrease bloom

[vernal ermine]

Apply reshade you say

[formal badger]

MF

[formal badger]

NO

[frail ermine]

No, but too much bloom = bad image

[vernal ermine]

Street lamp

[frail ermine]

i dont know how i should feel about these, where do you want to use them

[vernal ermine]

Dunno, I'm sure I'll find somewhere

[frail ermine]

i hope, because they look good. maybe in the shipyard?

there they actually would fit i think

[vernal ermine]

I got a bunch more to texture and clean up so I'm in no rush

[frail ermine]

or these industry areas

[hallow silo]

Car-Selfie lamp

Now with support for Uber driver profile picture mode

[dark umbra]

Anti Culling finally works in MW only RR needed for more stable shadows, now Adam this game needs your love pls

[vernal ermine]

Gotta figure out how to make the sky look decent

My brain just wants to get a sky that's more towards a sunset or blue hour look.

I wonder if I replace the cloud textures with an actual HDRI if it'll work

[opaque junco]

Do you just have a sky texture in your texture list @vernal ermine ? Was there anything you had to do to make it appear there?

Not having sky replacement is killing me in cod 😭

[vernal ermine]

No they figured out layering for this game so there's 4 or so textures that make up the sky

I think I dialed something decent in tho

[opaque junco]

That is looking sweet

[storm cobalt]

please go for a very dark look

i wanna see crazy skyboxes here

some thing like this what do you say

[vernal ermine]

Can't change the skybox as far as I know.

[storm cobalt]

you can mod the game itself

pretty easy

[vernal ermine]

All the mods work on the non fixed function stuff

If you get it working lemme know

[storm cobalt]

ahh ait

[vernal ermine]

I might bump it up just a bit more so that the sky and sun/moon will match more.

[opaque junco]

You got that really nice dark blue from the sky casting on the tops of the building, try to keep that mate it's wicked

If you fancy it you could add a black roughness map in your buildings windows to get glassy reflection

[vernal ermine]

The game already has that as the alpha channel of the textures actually

[hallow silo]

Game is looking pretty. Though, why night time?

[vernal ermine]

Was adding lights so it’s kinda hard to do that in the day

[hallow silo]

But the game is daytime already. It would make sense to add lights on tunnels, but streetlights not as much
But well, I like the idea of playing mw on nighttime

[vernal ermine]

In the daytime you can’t see them even though they’re on

[hallow silo]

Yeah I just mean, in daytime there is no need for lights

[magic gorge]

Cars dont need headlights, as the track is already lit

https://tenor.com/view/kachow-cars-lightning-mc-queen-pixar-disney-gif-5931942

[vernal ermine]

Oh I’ve already started doing that, the tunnels get that cool tunnel shadow effect now

[vernal ermine]

Option 1

Option 2

(Ignore the black spot on the lamp, I need to redo the normals)

[analog island]

Option 2 but the lights should be perpendicular

Not parallel

Maybe......

But option 1 not that bad

[hallow silo]

I like option 1, the way the light projects the falloff on the ceiling along the tunnel

[analog island]

It would make more sense with option 1

Because of how the lights are placed

[opaque junco]

Option 1 for me. the highlight on the ceiling is class

[dark umbra]

Maybe im too late, but option 1 is more lore friendly, because we have at least 4 small tunnel's, that have side light's. And more importantly side light's gonna look cooler with RT.

[magic gorge]

Maybe option 3? Use option 1 and add lights on the center line of the ceiling parallel to the road

[opaque junco]

Lore friendly light placement you guys

[magic gorge]

https://tenor.com/view/vsa-microwave-microwavelore-lore-gif-22775600

tunnel lore

[vernal ermine]

I’ll try option 1 later today

[wide warren]

this looks nicer

[vernal ermine]

My original thought was option 1 with wall packs rather than linear so I think I’ll have it be between those two.

[analog island]

you got any references?

i mean you probably know better than me cuz you are the lighting expert here

im looking at this

[vernal ermine]

Yea it’ll be like these but with older wall packs rather than flat LEDs.

Ah there’s the one I wanted

[analog island]

nice

i think there's a guideline on how to space the lights

[vernal ermine]

Yea it’s in some DOT guideline somewhere but I’d rather not follow it cause it’ll be too even.

Dot guidelines are based on measurements rather than spacing. So that’s not helpful. I ain’t running calculations for this.

Though it does provide some insight into how to ramp up the brightness from the outside to the inside.

This tunnel in particular is pretty old and has graffiti so I wanna keep that sorta disused look.

[hallow silo]

Oh yeah, for that early 2000s look

[hallow silo]

Also the runtime won't be a 1:1 replication, there is denoising, ReSTIR, different dlss profiles (performance, quality)

[vernal ermine]

The only thing that would result in similar outcomes is valves lighting system

[vernal ermine]

Also I think I’ll try to get a sunset sorta sun light setup, at least the distant one being the right color.

[analog island]

Light warm piss yellow color

[vernal ermine]

Eh it feels off

[dark umbra]

It because sun is to bright, so make sky texture (wich is blue) brighter.
I don't remember what parameters i used but it was smth like this 0.75sky, 6/4.5/3sun.
Btw use hdr sky (rly ifk what's that doing but it makes sky brighter xD)

Thing shouldn't be super yellow, if you take a look at PS2 version it doesn't have any piss filter, it makes yellow'ish look just by autumn trees, and yea a bit yellow sun.
So chase natural color gamma, yellow trees will do work for you. But sun needs to be a bit colorful just look at unbound, it has yellow sun and some trees, with pbr it looks rly good

[vernal ermine]

I dunno. That doesn’t give a sunset vibe to me for some reason.

Maybe I need to look at more reference

[dark umbra]

maybe its all about skybox, if you make it "orange" it will do the job

The best thing that could've happened that remix had built in weather system, with day night cycle, and cloud's, that thing really missing

[analog island]

that's something a talented programmer could do with the availability of open source version

[dark umbra]

is this sun really that bad? more or less it matches OG game

[analog island]

this shot looks very real

[sinful seal]

yes shadows are perfect

this looks nice too

[vernal ermine]

Oh I wasn’t trying to match the og game.

[vernal ermine]

Yea the orange sky would help a lot

[dark umbra]

btw dont make lights as bright, becouse even on day it casts shadows, wich isnt realistic

[vernal ermine]

The sun source?

[dark umbra]

nope this one

helicopter light left same, its cool

[vernal ermine]

Ohhh. They do cast shadows of they’re on during the day actually. It just get washes out from the sky

[dark umbra]

is there any way to make it turn off when day comes? i guess is not that simple, becouse remix doesnt give a f about in game day/night cicle right?

when you gonna work on this type of tunnels, pls use only side lights, with RT that gonna look insane.

[vernal ermine]

Nope no way that I know of

[vernal ermine]

Can you point it out on a map?

[dark umbra]

thats revolution jonny, wish i had it before i marked them all across map XD

[vernal ermine]

I wonder if I can get the lightmap one to work right

[storm cobalt]

go lore friendly guys

[vernal ermine]

There is sunset in the original game anyway

Hmm

Will def have to redo the materials in here

But I dunno about just side lights only. The actual road is going to be really dark

Actually might work

Might be better off with a boxy source like the original.

Boxy on the sides and then a top source to get that strobe effect

[dark umbra]

place them as often as OG, also that will look nice with pbr semi reflective texture like this

[vernal ermine]

They kind of blend together at the rate they had them tbh

I can try some tricks with a sphere source tho

Getting there but I think I was closer with the rect

[dark umbra]

can u make them a bit green?

[dark umbra]

perfecto

[dark umbra]

can u cut brightness half

[vernal ermine]

Dear god there are so many

[dark umbra]

best mw tunnel so far😍

there is one more btw XD

[vernal ermine]

Ugh

One side complete

[dark umbra]

If you somehow feel bored with placing lights, here is m3 gtr mash replacement waiting for you. As you can see its heat model. For OG look i need to find rip from mw2012, it had that smoother hood/bonnet.

[vernal ermine]

I wonder how complicated a replacement mesh like that will be

MW05 is basically a mirror as far as the body of the car goes

So everything is chopped in half

[dark umbra]

this fbx has all parameters already, when i uploaded it to OV it had all the textures, so its should be like you place car body into same category as one of the car mashes, and than select OG car body and make it invisible right? obv its missing port to .usda part, but you alredy done it

[vernal ermine]

231 lights later

[dark umbra]

Yea boiii

Another tunnel waiting for you Adam xD

[vernal ermine]

Maybe later, wanna get some materials remixed

'

[hallow silo]

Since I have the tooling to work with hdr maps (namely, Krita), I could work on some custom skybox textures just like for u2

[vernal ermine]

I can't replace the skybox texture

[hallow silo]

Oh, thats sad

Why is it?

[vernal ermine]

It's layered in this game and black box games going forward

[hallow silo]

Hmmm might be interesting to work with
Might give us some extra freedom

[vernal ermine]

I can easily swap out the textures in the base game tho to test how they work as an hdri

[hallow silo]

heyo adam, needing some cursed lights reference?

[vernal ermine]

My favorite: two t8 bulbs

[vernal ermine]

So it broke, but I think the theory works

[hallow silo]

Did you use the bc6u something?

[vernal ermine]

Nah it's the aspect ratio

I had something wild like 20:1, needs to be 2:1

I think

Ayeee

[hallow silo]

Nice

[hallow silo]

Are you making them as sky textures?

[vernal ermine]

I'm still figuring out the layering

[hallow silo]

Doesn't seems to be lighting up the scene as expected

[vernal ermine]

Gradiant acts as the background and is stretched around the sky.

cap goes ontop

env something?

[hallow silo]

Seems pretty similar to u2, the sky mesh. I still don't know why they used it like that rather than a regular sphere

Guess is to optimize texture space so they don't need 4k maps to look decently and not pixelated

[lunar schooner]

Vram usage Vs texel density

They chose to save on vram

[vernal ermine]

Well in theory it seems I can replace one of the layers to get a different skybox showing.

[lunar schooner]

That's what you have to do. Hide all of the layers, and replace one with a UV sphere

[vernal ermine]

Could try it on U2 as well. I don’t think it has all the layers so it’d be easier.

[lunar schooner]

u2 only has one horizon texture and a cap texture

2 different skyboxes that swap between each other from time to time

One night, and one dusk.

[storm cobalt]

heat's model was the most accurate

[dark umbra]

hood is wrong

[storm cobalt]

Heat m3 gtr is the most correct version you will find

it has the roll cage inside too

mw12 didnt

nfs heat m3 was literally modeled to be perfect and as close to original it can

[dark umbra]

hood is wrong, just need to find mw2012 model and get hood from there

its 2015 model btw, only inside is modeled in heat

[storm cobalt]

You can replace the hood on the heat m3 gtr

haha that would make it accurate

[dark umbra]

i mean in 3d redactor, in game that would be huge pain in the ass

already done it before, when i was trying to do my first mod for assetto corsa. the thing is its hard to find needed file in the internet, but if you find it than it easy

[vernal ermine]

Hoping to get some more materials replaced today I wanna get the rocks and off road terrain looking decent.

Also the texture that the tunnel lights have, kinda wanna make it so it’s at least emissive.

[maiden harbor]

https://youtu.be/9f9JriBMxFg?si=fHztmMQqx-uVSqoX

[dark umbra]

Adam update your github repo. Would be nice if all cops had working police lights

[vernal ermine]

Oh yea I don’t have anything besides the base cruiser.

[vernal ermine]

Still just a texture pack and light cycle adjustment I see

[dark umbra]

It also uses this https://www.nfscars.net/need-for-speed-most-wanted/7/files/view/17623/
M3GTR from mw2012 (the most accurate one actually)
We can do better and import nfsheat M3. Than any remix competitor will be destroyed xD

[wide warren]

We are not paying

wont come from here

[analog island]

i don't see our progress as a graphical mod

it more than that

the potential of utilizing all of the game's lighting with one unified ray tracer hold more significance than any visual overhaul mod

it has that near realistic look to it without fancy tricks and wet roads (we don't even need them to look good)

and oh

the ability to hotswap models

[dark umbra]

Make this one emissive as nfsu2remix

[vernal ermine]

Yea I was getting writer’s block (or the equivalent) this weekend on what to improve. I think I’ll just start going back to just PBRing all the base games materials. I feel that getting all those in will be a great starting point till I start improving meshes.

[vernal ermine]

I think the immediately noticeable effect of using the PT is that everything casts shadows and has reflections rather than just a few light sources and objects.

Even that graphics mod only has the CSM from the sun and shading on the cars. But no additional shadow casters from what I can tell.

[hallow silo]

It is a massive jump honestly. From the original rendering side, things are integrated within the engine and objects have their behaviour optimized and tailored for the look n feel of the game, while on the flipside, the remix engine just accepts everything being rendered and makes some educated generic guesses of how the objects should behave and proceeds to render.
I wonder what should be the future of remix given that so much of the look is driven by internal game systems that, most of the time, are reverse engineerable.
Things like:

• Recognizing loaded scenes
• Weather conditions
• Sun & atmo. properties
• Headlights turning on/off, colors...
• Special lighting effects
  And many other triggers for custom visual logics.
  That anticulling algorithm idea got me thinking about so many possibilities that open up by integrating RE within the runtime

I feel almost tempted to specialize on that tbh

[vernal ermine]

Personally, I think figuring out how to have an in game effect trigger a difference in Remix to be a good proof of concept. Such as headlights turning on and off based on a memory address rather than a graphical one.

[dark umbra]

Would be cool if remix could increase LODs distance, now thanks to anticulling shadows aren't disappearing behind camera, but they popping in ahead. (Way less noticeable but still)

[vernal ermine]

That’s easy

It’s controlled through a static variable in speed engine (?) games.

[dark umbra]

Could you increase it, like you did with anticulling thing?
Twice should be enough
Good, I say goodbye to my cpu performance xD. (The funny mw cpu performance is better than u2)

[vernal ermine]

U2 is pretty bad with cpu optimization

All speed engine games are

[dark umbra]

I think its more due to u2 using only one core to not crash (crash fix), if you disable it you will gain 20-40% performance, but yeah mw is still better optimized.

[maiden harbor]

that’s like completely wrong but okay

[vernal ermine]

I mean, there's new glow textures and it seems they've figured out how to add non-shadow casting lights to objects beyond what I stated already.

But it's not like they replaced the render or anything

[lunar schooner]

Holy shit, y'all, the video in showcase looks amazing

[gritty vector]

you came here to promote your paid crap 😭

[vernal ermine]

Oh are they the dev?

[gritty vector]

yes

[dark umbra]

Also dev of mw online (if i remember correctly), and x360 shaders port for PC. But yeah unlucko he fallen to the dark side.

[vernal ermine]

Impressive. Sorry I’m not a big fan of the paid graphics mod, but I respect the amount of work put in across all the mods. 👍

[maiden harbor]

appreciate it👏

[lunar schooner]

Any mod that I ever make will be free

[sinful seal]

😐

[analog island]

(totally not lying to us)

[magic gorge]

paid nfs mw r34 mods

[formal badger]

This mod is best left with him left as far away from it as possible

[woeful wagon]

ty :)

[vernal ermine]

Repo has been updated

[vernal ermine]

Looks like any of the industrial metal textures will likely need to be redone in designer or something. They’re too cooked. The fake light and low res make for just a muddy texture.

[storm cobalt]

Nahh they're using completely custom shaders

its not easy to push that old engine that much without rtx remix

They've already made the game look so well without a tool from nvidia

Done way more hardwork than you guys no offense

Surely this is not the place for self promo but atleast respect it guys

[vernal ermine]

I respect it, but I don’t agree with the paywall as I’ve said before

[analog island]

not paying allat

[vernal ermine]

Now that’s just rude This isn’t my full time job or even something I’ve been doing for awhile.

[analog island]

also not the right place to promote

[storm cobalt]

not rude but that guy osdever has been grinding since 2017 for that graphics mod, he is also the person who made nfs mw online.

[storm cobalt]

yeah i agree

[analog island]

i respect any kind of hard work or effort but we are just doing our own thing for now and it looks better

when authored correctly

[storm cobalt]

Of course it does, you guys are working with official nvidia support

real piss filter when

[analog island]

we acquired the piss jar

[vernal ermine]

I’m working by myself, I ain’t got any sort of support working on this.

[analog island]

apparently remix runtime is a support

[dark umbra]

The only Nvidia support is ray's, rest is on Adam to do, all the things materials lights pbr etc.

[vernal ermine]

Mark just traces the rays. We all gotta do the rest.

[analog island]

we could say remix made it easy for us to add PBR and new models without altering anything in the game files

except maybe a few tweaks

hence stating that we rely on Nvidia's official support is not really that true

nothing but the Remix Runtime and its shiny rays are helping us

[woeful wagon]

anyone know what the deal with the big round thing in the skybox is all about?

[vernal ermine]

A skybox texture that I hadn’t marked yet.

The sides and the top are separate

[storm cobalt]

I could prove why he's working harder but i dont wanna fill up the channel with this conversation so let it be

[woeful wagon]

this is my own project. I'm using my own stuff for mine. I tried looking for this texture and can't find it anywhere in the list and I just can't figure out why nothing seems to match it

[vernal ermine]

It might be the cloud texture as well. You can hover your cursor over it and hopefully it’ll pick up on it

[woeful wagon]

yeah I tried before and unfortunately it wasn't showing anything

[vernal ermine]

Might be worth just using the dumped textures to generate hashes for all them instead of trying to find them

[woeful wagon]

oh yeah good idea

[vernal ermine]

Which reminds me, the shadow maps aren’t pre-rendered right? I want to find a way to disable them.

[dark umbra]

just drive through whole map and mark them LOL

[woeful wagon]

that's what I did lmfao

still end up finding some I missed

[dark umbra]

8 hours of marking here guys #1106549860393553961 message

[woeful wagon]

I don't even see this one in my list. can you give me the name of it

[vernal ermine]

I’ll integrate this later today and add ya to the credits for your courageous service

[woeful wagon]

ty

[vernal ermine]

If that’s okay with ya 👀

[dark umbra]

i think i still missed some in beginning area, so anyways it should be updated later on (trees on mountains have their own shadow maps)

[dark umbra]

what is that? i cannot select it with mouse, also cannot find it through textures scroll

[vernal ermine]

Oh that’s a texture that got marked as a lightmap

I thought I deleted all that line in RTX conf.

[dark umbra]

found it, the 'funny' thing is that with anti culling now instead of 100 textures in pull i have 400+ xD. very enjoyble to scroll through.

how thick glass you want? YES

[vernal ermine]

Thicccc

[dark umbra]

Here is updated shadow maps cfg. also i do recommend using extra options, it has time of day control, so you can put annoying sun on top of you, so you wont see it, also has car wheels anticulling, and some other things and fixes. https://github.com/ExOptsTeam/NFSMWExOpts/releases

[gritty vector]

ah yes
gzilla before gzilla

[lunar schooner]

Ah yes

Gzilla

That used to be a thing

[gritty vector]

i mean it still is

we just call it srk now

[lunar schooner]

Then I got news for you

[lunar schooner]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1134564734415409194/1162836104370720818/Screenshot_20231014_133428_Discord.png?ex=653d6283&is=652aed83&hm=60332ecd5272c3f42f9212bbca0bebacc583aeb0c23914208d586085c51b62d1&

[gritty vector]

i know

[lunar schooner]

lol

[gritty vector]

unite is done for

[lunar schooner]

Unite is no more

[gritty vector]

not just as a mod but as a "this here online environment"

[lunar schooner]

Yep

[gritty vector]

the environment being

[lunar schooner]

I'm still in gzilla's old server. We claimed it as our own

[vernal ermine]

Ah I used to have that installed. For some reason my graphics settings weren’t sticking and I wanted to have the slider. But they stick now for some reason.

[hallow silo]

Lol, what is that.
I wonder, judging by the first paragraph, if the adms would survive if they were the ones chosen for random ban

[lunar schooner]

Discord server for a nfs mod

The admin and the mods have gone insane

[formal badger]

Thank you someone said it

[storm cobalt]

Well its not a nfs server anymore lol

its just a private community now

Im in that server and no they havent banned anyone on friday so i guess its just a gimmick lol

[storm cobalt]

Wdym gzilla, im talking about how hard osdever has been working why are you bringing gzilla into this

[gritty vector]

he was gz before gz

[storm cobalt]

Crazy how any good hardworking modder becomes gzilla according to you

Once they stop caring about the community they're gzilla

[formal badger]

tell me

were you ever staff in one of his servers?

no?

then shut the fuck up

[gritty vector]

gzilla was not hardworking, he was an ass

there's my point of comparison

[formal badger]

osd is a racist piece of shit that made one good mod and then weaseled his way everywhere else

[gritty vector]

osd at some point was so fucking toxic he was pretty much banned, kicked out of or otherwise silenced in every server
the only reason he's more active now is to advertise is paid shit

why would he just spam it here

other than that

to try and bait more people into paying him

lmao
bro looked at the broken mirror, the gigantic DXVK debug layer and the USD capture and really said "iS tHiS pLaK gRaPhIcS?"

[storm cobalt]

I seemed to have spoken without knowledge of any of this, i apologize

Btw @gritty vector i heard that there was going to be a Unite continuation or something of that sorts named Evo works. Did it get cancelled or what?

[gritty vector]

No, it's coming soon

[storm cobalt]

Hey that's amazing to hear any youtube channel or discord yet?

[gritty vector]

No

That's all I can say

[maiden harbor]

bro really still remembers someone’s (admittedly not too respectable) behavior from years ago and brings it up everytime that person is mentioned

I admire your dedication to me tbh

#1 fan

[analog island]

get your personal beefs out of here lol, regardless of who you are please just don't spam this thread

i come here for updates of the Remix project

[maiden harbor]

I have no beef with anyone here lol

its just funny how much beef they have had with me for a very long time

[maiden harbor]

that’s also factually untrue
I was only ever banned in like 3 or 4 big servers out of dozens

if you wanna criticize me then at least be honest about it and don’t make shit up🤩

[maiden harbor]

making dumb edgy jokes 5 years ago doesn’t meet the definition of “racist piece of shit” either

as well as that, exactly which “one good mod” are you referring to? because I can name at least three

[gritty vector]

lmao
"dozens" of "big" servers

[maiden harbor]

nfsmods

kuru

elaymm4 modding corner

sbrw (I’m quiet there but whatever)

need I continue

[gritty vector]

oh right
kuru
a server primarily focused around a streamer and not nfs modding?
sbrw, a server primarily focused around nfs world modding and servers?

[maiden harbor]

they’re still nfs discords bro

[gritty vector]

your last message was in 2021 in kurus server

the fuck are you on

[maiden harbor]

and if we use your definition then exactly which nfs modding discords have I been banned from?

[maiden harbor]

still not banned lmao

“every server” my ass

[analog island]

listen man what do you need to prove here?

[gritty vector]

he's desperately trying to sell plak here

[maiden harbor]

nothing lol

[analog island]

im broke asf, on the brink of installing IW8x

[maiden harbor]

bro I posted one video

you and ctrl started shit

[gritty vector]

in a server that has absofuckinglutely nothing to do with nfs whatsoever other than the project supporting the rendering api nfs uses

[maiden harbor]

in a channel specifically about need for speed most wanted***

[gritty vector]

play dumb

[maiden harbor]

ftfy

[maiden harbor]

I was genuinely curious back then btw

the streetlights look just like in plak

thought someone ran both

so don’t assume the worst every time

[gritty vector]

i didn't assume the worst when you looked up my facebook either
now i do

[maiden harbor]

what😭

[maiden harbor]

see this

[gritty vector]

who gives a crap about shit happened "years ago" when it still happened

[maiden harbor]

the fact that people aren’t static

eh whatever this is pointless

[gritty vector]

"oh i was a fucking toxic idiot but its ok because it happened not presently"

[maiden harbor]

thanks for agreeing with me bro

your obvious bias is, well, obvious

have a great day

[gritty vector]

take a crash course in sarcasm

[gritty vector]

yeah, cant imagine why it's not the aggressor who has a beef with everyone else 🙄

[gritty vector]

"bro i just posted one video"
you're pretty much doing the same as that other idiot on reddit "just posting videos" about his $50 undercover mod

[gritty vector]

see the name of the main forum channel for future reference
ftfy

[analog island]

more like experimenting remix with this game

[gritty vector]

my point still stands

[analog island]

or any game in particular

what if dudes from other servers come in and promote graphic mods for other games

people are not interested in that

especially if they are paid

[gritty vector]

gzilla before gzilla
gzilla after gzilla

[analog island]

if you are trying to mix with some modding scene, you are wrong

im a naive person who is passionate about ray tracing in its entirety

[gritty vector]

i'm not, he is lol

[gritty vector]

this i mean

[lunar schooner]

Jesus

The last time I heard people arguing over gzilla was when he first started fucking up

[storm cobalt]

Chill out brother he's just posted a video here yall can look at it for lighting inspirations too

[analog island]

hmm, its not really that point either

we need a good tonemapper to give the effect

[storm cobalt]

I agree

Maybe replicate the og game's tonemapper

[formal badger]

i knew osd before then and i also knew gz before then

[lunar schooner]

Yeah

Me too

[formal badger]

no, i knew their true colors long before they got aired out in public

[dark umbra]

What you mean by original, piss filter of pc version, or complete lack of in ps2 version?

[formal badger]

but can we just move on this shit doenst need to be here

[analog island]

who are we talking about anyway?

yall dick riding a bunch of modders lol

get them out of your head

stop defending/insulting them

no use

[storm cobalt]

Ps2 if we're being ideal tbh

i love the look of ps2

[gritty vector]

PS2 does have a piss filter tho

[storm cobalt]

i love how it looked

[dark umbra]

Ps2 had more or less normal look with slight yellowish look

[gritty vector]

that's a poorly configured pcsx2, not actual ps2

[storm cobalt]

The exagerrated reflections look so good

[dark umbra]

Anyway if you take a look at dev screenshots, you will see that they target piss filter

Ok so ps2 had slightly reddish look, due to reduced greens. But it very slightly, so basically we don't need to use any filters at all.
All we need is to make sun full yellow (not orange), and change skyboxes to match PS2.

[vernal ermine]

Ya'll making a piss filter?

[lunar schooner]

Naw I'm making piss

[vernal ermine]

New wall mesh and texture

[brave bear]

Dude that looks so good

[vernal ermine]

I just finished up a new roof for the east side garage as well

[lunar schooner]

I see a bunch of textures shared between the games

[vernal ermine]

I haven’t done a check for the matching textures yet but I agree there’s a lot

[lunar schooner]

Bridge underside

[vernal ermine]

And the highway supports

Repo has been updated 👍

[severe terrace]

Is sun working properly?

[vernal ermine]

I feel like this roof came out way too bright. Should I turn down the exposure on the texture?

[dark umbra]

Maybe a little bit, but it looks spot on to be honest

Btw adam, in ps2 thoose lights are yellow not green. Im idiot sorry

[vernal ermine]

Truly a grave mistake. I’ll never be able to recover. /s

I’ll change them over to aged HPS yellow later.

[vernal ermine]

Also, I’ve gotten the workflow down for mesh replacements. I’ll type up my method and post it so y’all don’t have to spend a week figuring it out like me

[hallow silo]

Oh boy, I didn't know u were struggling with it, could have just asked, I have some workflows on my own that helps a lot on iteration

[grand crag]

It took me nearly a week to figure out how to get it right too. Additionally, I encountered some issues when using the original mesh capture with Remix and attempting to redo the UV mapping in Blender. After that, I followed your guide to export the USD and open it in Omniverse. However, when using your tools to fix the mesh and UV compatibility with Remix, there were instances where the mesh and UV mapping became distorted. To resolve the problem, I had to manually perform retopology on the mesh. Fortunately, it was only a matter of simplifying some simple polygons. These issues occurred specifically in GTASA, where there were duplicate vertices at certain points. I'm not entirely sure if that was the cause of the problem.

[vernal ermine]

Mine is:
OV -> Blender (export as USD) -> RizomUV -> Substance (export final mesh to use in game as well as textures) -> Convert to DDS

Sticking in USD format the whole time.

[hallow silo]

That is weird. Did you triangulate the mesh(s) before exporting?

[hallow silo]

Doesn't substance supports dds?

[vernal ermine]

Nope

That’s why I got my batch converter

[grand crag]

Yes, I enabled the triangulate in the USD export in Blender, and I also tried triangulate the mesh in Blender before exporting. both methods at the same result.

[hallow silo]

Interesting. If you could send me a sample of the mesh that is having those issues I can investigate what is going on

[vernal ermine]

Are you using the omniverse blender?

[grand crag]

I found that both Omniverse 4.0 USD and Blender 3.6 USD exports gave me the same result. It's possible that there might be issues with the GTASA mesh itself. Sometimes, when I try to flip normals with those meshes, Blender crashes unexpectedly.

[vernal ermine]

I find I have to clean up the mesh before doing it anything else. Mainly, recalculate the normals, merge verts, and simplify the mesh.

[grand crag]

Even when using the "Merge Vertices" function in Blender, the issue of double vertices persists. To fix this, I have to delete all the edges connected to the duplicate vertices and then create a new face. I'm not sure if this is a bug or not.

This is one of the problem mesh that capture with remix.

Here is the specific vertex that has this issue, and it's not limited to just one mesh. Many other meshes also have the same problem.

[vernal ermine]

Cleaned up fine in my blender

[grand crag]

If i want to flip the normal, Blender just crashed...

[vernal ermine]

Huh what do you know, if I use blender to flip the normals it does crash

[hallow silo]

Ohh I see, yeah. This is a known problem, though I think it is how remix exports them with duplicated vertices already . I use the merge option in blender as well, but sometimes you have to bump up the distance in the bottom left dialog

[vernal ermine]

I get this warning in Rizom ```-- WARNING: Input polygon mesh data has some topology error(s)
-- WARNING: in 3D polygons :
-- Topology warning: The polygon couldn't be triangulated, it has been separated
[...]

[grand crag]

You unwarp the UV without problem?

[hallow silo]

Yup, also flipped the normals and no crashes

[vernal ermine]

Ah rizom shows those verts

[hallow silo]

I'm not using blender 4.0 though

[hallow silo]

Also, there is this weird thin polygon I don't know where it is coming from

[grand crag]

But it's only happened for me that when edit the imported USD mesh.

[vernal ermine]

I'd suggest not messing with the captured usd's directly and rely on Eman's tool to setup the replacement mesh.

[grand crag]

Your mesh still have duplicate vertices

[hallow silo]

Yeah, it is this one

Hm I'll inspect the USD, it has only 15 vertices anyway

[grand crag]

After using your tools, the mesh and UV mapping become distorted, which can be quite frustrating. I'm curious to know if it's easy to perform retopology on these problematic meshes. Dealing with these issues can be quite bothersome.

[vernal ermine]

No easy way tbh

[hallow silo]

There are 16 visible triangles in the mesh, but the USD describes 22. The others are just point to vertex at index 0, which is that one at the bottom

[grand crag]

That is indeed strange. In Blender, it shows that there are 15 vertices in the mesh, but when I unwrap the UV, I can see at least 18 vertices in the UV interface. However, if you move the vertices, they appear to be merged into a single vertex.

[vernal ermine]

Are these from GTASA?

[grand crag]

Yes

[hallow silo]

Since this is a simple mesh, you can select everything > Delete > Only Faces, and then select everything again and press F to fill with faces again

[grand crag]

You save my life again, thanks so much.

I wasn't aware that Blender had this method to fix the problem. It's great to know that it also resolves the issue of double faces on the backside. Unlike 3ds Max, which tends to cause complications with the faces on the backside.

I need to redirect my attention back to NFSU2 and work on redoing the effect textures and the glass material.

[vernal ermine]

I'll be here redoing a fence

[lunar schooner]

He will be redoing a fence

[vernal ermine]

Going to stain it and make it look nice

[vernal ermine]

Think that's my best uv percentage

[hallow silo]

Gotta spend all those pixels, yeah

[vernal ermine]

That's some big textures for a fence

[hallow silo]

Hmmm 4k BC7?

[vernal ermine]

Yea

[hallow silo]

Thats about right. The date palms are about the same

Since dds is more optimized for faster loading than storage space

[vernal ermine]

Took me a minute to find the fence ingame

[hallow silo]

Hmmm Hedge Fences

A lot similar to U2 models

[analog island]

you don't have a gpu that supports VK_ray_tracing

or you have one and the game's being a b*tch

[gritty vector]

what gpu do you have

[storm cobalt]

1050 ti

[brisk obsidian]

This isn't right, right? 😄

[dark umbra]

Install github desktop
Copy repository through github desktop
This way will work for sure

[brisk obsidian]

I used RTX Remix Downloader from look-here-first section
Also, I noticed that disabiling Enhanced Assets -> Enhanced Materials fixes textures problem

[dark umbra]

Its not about remix, its just github not downloading all files, just do what i sad before, it should work just fine.

We are talking about this btw

https://github.com/adamplayer/MostWantedRTX

[brisk obsidian]

Yup

I clicked on Code and download zip

I'll try with Github desktop

[dark umbra]

yeap some times it doesnt download it all

[brisk obsidian]

Sadly, same thing :<

In game it looks like this

Clearly some issues with textures

[dark umbra]

How did you install it?
You put rtx-remix folder inside game right?

[brisk obsidian]

Yup

[dark umbra]

maybe try this config

[dark umbra]

btw did you delete old rtx-remix folder before putting github desktop one?

[brisk obsidian]

Yup

I have a copy of clean files without any mods and changes

So I just copy the entire game folder between the process to be sure it's not previous changes

Same thing

Maybe a little darker 😄

[dark umbra]

are you using any mods?

[brisk obsidian]

Hm... for skipping intro movies and widescreen exe

That's all

[dark umbra]

its same right?

game clearly missing materials, but why are they not there idk

[brisk obsidian]

Huh, it's not the same

Different size, same quantity of files

[dark umbra]

yeap here it is

[brisk obsidian]

But why

I downloaded it straight from github

[dark umbra]

im reseting whole sing to see if github desktop downloading all files

yeap its not full

[brisk obsidian]

Uhm, so where can I get all the files if not on github?

[dark umbra]

when Adam fix that, for now i will put it on drive and send link here wait a sec

[brisk obsidian]

Thank you!

[dark umbra]

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Cgkh-k9BqAiMAFmdiPqP0aJ73nznzljT/view?usp=sharing

AdamPlayer fix your repo!

[brisk obsidian]

I think I got it, let me check if it works

:<

It's progress though

There are more reflections on floor

And it's not as flickery

[dark umbra]

bigboy guy doing textures, but he doesnt share anything for now, Adam is mostly doing lights related stuff.

[brisk obsidian]

All the custom cars are orange

[dark umbra]

every paint has different hash, basically you cannot make it shiny for now

but there is bad way to do. mark car texture as terrain, than use this parrameters, this way car will hold their color but yea looks not so great, especially with vinyls'

[brisk obsidian]

I know for sure that hardware is not an issue since I have 4080
Will do, but I want to try one more thing

[dark umbra]

also game dosent changes time of the day, so the only way to do that is here with this three parameters

[brisk obsidian]

Ok, thanks

I have different layout of textures

I mean order

When I change it to terrain

It looks like this

So some progress indeed

[dark umbra]

it works better with solid colors, but yeah it uses perspective from the top, the only hope that remix devs will add same thing but without that top thing. the problem is if we try to replace m3 with its own vinyl, it will look great in m3, but every other car will have same grey blue texture as m3.

[brisk obsidian]

Well, thank you for your help, maybe devs will find what's going on

[brisk obsidian]

Now I saw that I am not the only one

https://github.com/adamplayer/MostWantedRTX/issues/2

[brisk obsidian]

If someone has time, could you upload the full game folder to test and compare what's different?

[analog island]

That would be a bit against this server rules

can't share game files

here

[brisk obsidian]

I understand, but I just wanted to track the errors

Or what possibly causing gone wrong

[vernal ermine]

What’d I do

[dark umbra]

File size is not full
#1106549860393553961 message
Basically textures missing in ur repo

[vernal ermine]

Weird. I think I’m going to switch to putting the resources (textures, meshes, etc.) on mega rather than on GitHub to avoid having to spend money to have it be hosted.

[lunar schooner]

Either download using github desktop, or clone using git

[vernal ermine]

Plus it avoids the whole GitHub desktop junk

[lunar schooner]

It's a github thing

[dark umbra]

That what we did, after fresh download files missing

[lunar schooner]

AdamPlayer fix your repo!

[vernal ermine]

I’ll get some duct tape

[lunar schooner]

thx

[vernal ermine]

I’ll host it on something like rapidgator and make everyone download it at 15kb/s

[analog island]

nooo

use megab*stard

if its too large

[brisk obsidian]

What about Google Drive? 😄

[vernal ermine]

Don’t wanna dox myself

[brisk obsidian]

Create an email address especially for this project

15GB should be more than enough

[vernal ermine]

Mega will work fine

[brisk obsidian]

Ok, whatever will fix the orange cars 😄

[vernal ermine]

I have an idea in mind but it won’t persist across all cars

[brisk obsidian]

For now it only happens with personal cars and enemies cars

The ambient and the police are fine

[olive barn]

Any news?

[vernal ermine]

[sharp badger]

Is there any tutorial I can read or watch to install rtx remix onto this game ?

[graceful crane]

Just copy the files form NFS u2 rtx files and latest dxvk and bridge config

it shouldnt be too hard

Also look up the pins

[willow herald]

So I'm trying to use
https://github.com/adamplayer/MostWantedRTX/issues/2
But Im getting orange car issue like described here:
#1178399239374643340 message