NFSU2 (Need For Speed Underground 2)

[spark moon]

There is a ingmae debug camera mode... i got it

[sage wraith]

so here is the lightpack for 240sx (included all stage1 lights]

[balmy chasm]

Have you recreated like exact light shapes of them?

[torn star]

oh wait, do you have to set up manually light sorces for every single car?

[spark moon]

whole game

[sage wraith]

yes/no only one lightsource per headlight but all got her own position

new parking place

[safe patrol]

You generally don't want to do that because as you see in your screenshots it makes them way too bright. I've been either recreating them by hand or manipulating them with brightness and contrast to get the right result.

[balmy chasm]

You can just lower emissive intensity in material properties

[sage wraith]

Yes i set it to 1 instead of 10 And now its good 👌🏽

[balmy chasm]

Are you sure you got concrete or asphalt material there?

[sage wraith]

yes

its asphalt

but the mesh is a bit weird

[balmy chasm]

Looks more like cardboard after all

[sage wraith]

its really stretched

[balmy chasm]

Can you show texture?

[sage wraith]

it loads up

[balmy chasm]

Ah, just a screenshot of that, please

[sage wraith]

ok wait

[balmy chasm]

These are damaged parts which got flooded with sand. All of your road is kinda wet. That means this sand part also have to be wet. Wet sand is dark colored. And overall reflectivity seems to be overshoot for my opinion

[sage wraith]

it is allready dark

[balmy chasm]

Considering sand is lighter + less reflective on your image, gives the result of light, not dark

[sage wraith]

hm ok

[safe patrol]

a few updates and improvements for neon signs

[tawny elk]

There was a GDC talk about switching to a PBR workflow from the devs behind Detroit become human that had a nice breakdown of how to avoid problems with the process. I can go dig it up if anyone is interested.

[ember river]

They're lookinh great, @sage wraith . Think it would look even better if you tile/repeat the base asphalt texture a few times so the cracks have a proportional scale to the vehicle. Is could be easily achieved by using the Clone brush (that one which allows you to sample the texture and paint another region with the sampled one). In krita, this is it's Icon:

[ember river]

Well, rn my biggest struggle is to hand paint all details and stuff in multiple layers in Krita and then having to replicate everything precisely to make decently looking normals and roughness maps from the albedo. I'd love to learn some improved workflows on that specifically for now, but if you have something else in mind, I'd love to hear about

[tawny elk]

It’s more orientated towards avoiding color clipping, light over/under exposure, and how to use the material properties. Since I’m more focused on lighting that’s what I was interested in. I can see if I can find a texture one of y’all are interested.

https://youtu.be/7dVv6XwkLbM here’s the one I was talking about

[tawny elk]

I found a presentation on PBR creation for TLOU from this year that imma watch. I’ll let you know if it’s worth watching 👀

[ember river]

@cloud crypt You've mentioned that some regions in beacon hill would be darker due to light poles being too spreaded apart. Isn't it possible to copy and paste, rearrange them to better distribute the light sources?

[safe patrol]

updates and improvements to windows.

[tawny elk]

No we can’t do that just yet. 😦

I have an idea on how to get to work with what we got though

[safe patrol]

headlights will help enormously too

[ember river]

The problem is:
1 - no one learned how to do that
2 - there is a restriction specifically to NFSU2
3 - RTX Remix itself doesn't supports that yet
?

[tawny elk]

It’s quite difficult to do so it’s more of case 1.

[tawny elk]

I’m starting to think we’re going to need multiple light sources for headlights till we can get proper shaping.

[ember river]

Oh I see. Just want to know if is possible, if someone tried and so on. I might give it a try later, if a I succeed, might make a tutorial as well

[ember river]

On that matter, I'm still trying to understand what are the biggest issues with headlights rn

[tawny elk]

I don’t have a photo metric web of a headlight currently but I hope this luminance chart helps kind of visualize it.

[tawny elk]

The bottom one is looking down at the distribution, notice how far it throws with comparison to how the beam is distributed in the upper image.

[safe patrol]

if only someone else had just said that...

[balmy chasm]

Yeah. Skipped that :D

[safe patrol]

brand new category for y'all

[balmy chasm]

What is that?

[tawny elk]

I’m not quite able to get that kind distribution out of the sphere source, yet, so you just get the initial hot distribution near the car. But none of the far reaching horizontal distribution.

[ember river]

I see

[tawny elk]

Fronts of buildings I presume. That’s what a storefront is.

[balmy chasm]

But why is that separate category?

[tawny elk]

With IES based distribution it’s super easy, but with your standard spheres and such it becomes difficult. This is why there’s support for it in most 3D renders.

[safe patrol]

they're the ones with stores with big windows you can see into and are frequently lit up, as opposed to just plain building facades

[balmy chasm]

Let's assume I understood .-.

[safe patrol]

storefront, building.

[tawny elk]

My idea being that we can use the scale tool to distort the shape of the light source to hopefully alleviate some of these problems, more so than just the angle. In addition to potentially using an additional source to help get better “throw”

[tawny elk]

But I’ll have to mess around with this cause I’m not sure how it’ll actually perform.

[ember river]

Have you tested the disk light type? It has some interesting shaping settings

Basically, they're supposed to be just the spotlights we're more used to

[tawny elk]

Yes I’ve tried them out. All lights have the same shaping settings I think. Only the cone softness and angle (for sphere and disc sources only in my testing) are recognized in remix.

Disc sources also aren’t supported by anti light culling so that kind of makes me less likely to use them

[cloud crypt]

I could try that, thx for the tipp

I atleast can test to add 3 lights to them and rearrange them that the area they illimunate is bigger

Because meshreplacesments arent possible yet

[safe patrol]

we don't need anti-culling for player cars though do we? In this specific instance wouldn't it be ok?

[cloud crypt]

We need it, because tje headlights textures get culled

[safe patrol]

I thought we were attaching headlights to body meshes, not headlight textures

[tawny elk]

I just mean in general. In this case it’d be fine, at least for me, cause I don’t use the headlights as a host.

[safe patrol]

exactly - in this specific instance it might be a solution for player headlights, which is primarily what we're worried about. It doesn't really matter if NPC cars or traffic has proper light throw - well, at least not as much

[tawny elk]

Oh agreed, the traffic ones are just kind of for show in my mind. The player ones need a lot of attention to distribute properly.

[jade briar]

So what you guys up to.

[safe patrol]

Texture work

[tawny elk]

Yapping

[cloud crypt]

Light work for traffic, streets right now, playercar i wont spent my time on for now and shop lights: i think adam does a good job on them

[tawny elk]

I still need to do a second pass on my lighting for the shops.

[safe patrol]

@cloud crypt do you mind if I package any of the textures you've shared here previously in my packs I'm putting together? Or would you rather I leave them out?

[tawny elk]

I might focus on redoing the industrial park to the south cause that has a lot of detail I wants mess with.

[cloud crypt]

Its fine

[safe patrol]

Thanks. Didn't want to look like I was trying to pass your work off as mine or anything

I'm just trying to make this easier for people to sort out.

[cloud crypt]

Ok shure, why not. Could you share your lights when you finished. I want to try to adjust my lights to yours so its more compatible. Only if you dont mind doing that

[cloud crypt]

No worries. I Only changed 2 or 3 textures

[tawny elk]

It’s in my repo 👍 I update it whenever I make changes.

[cloud crypt]

Oh ok nice

[tawny elk]

I only ask that if my lights are used to give me credit or be attributed.

[cloud crypt]

Yeah dont worry, i only want to look how you are doing yours. And yeah of course if i do any changes that are inspired by yours i will credit you

[tawny elk]

My rtx conf is in the repo as well if you wanna use it to see how I have it looking in the game ||since OV isn’t a 1:1 translation for whatever reason||

[tawny elk]

https://github.com/adamplayer/Underground2RTX

||Sorry I can’t remove embeds on mobile||

[cloud crypt]

Thx

[ember river]

Texturing. Finished the crossings ("clean road puddles" folder) and I'm now moving on to sidewalks. Haven't done the puddle version of the roads yet. Just want to finish everything and then make a wetter version

[jade briar]

are you using a shared normal map/ roughness map or is it unique for every texture?

[ember river]

shared. I didn't study how to make new textures yet aside from the ones already present in the gameReadyAssets, so I'm basically just working with them rn

I don't know how to work on a shared mod.usda file like you guys have been doing. Didn't had the need for that so far

I mean, merging and stuff

[jade briar]

right

[safe patrol]

oops, missed something in this. If you already downloaded it, grab this instead.
edit: 3rd time's a charm? Maybe?

stupid typos

[sage wraith]

thx 🙏
First i wanted to use the clear Asphalt from the street, but my texture ist 4096x4096 so it would have a Lot of repeat And the driving rills have no logical background on a parkingplace😅 And this Texturen is for a Lot of parkingplaces so i wanted to generate a texture which is Fine enough for good parking places And Bad enough for rotten parkingplaces 😅 And the meshscaling is horrible in this Game 😅

[sage wraith]

But that will eat a Lot of performance i guess

[tawny elk]

Eh, I’m not too concerned with performance, if you run it with high preset instead of ultra it runs pretty good.

[ember river]

Oh I see. I've created a texture for the road crossings which are large areas of asphalt without an actual coordination for wheels to smooth the asphalt, so since I have the original editable files with layers in Krita, I created another version with randonly distributed tire lanes all around:

[sage wraith]

So i saw in the remix config, you can Change the roughness ingame, And the sidewalks Are has a Kind of roughness, That they get puddles if you lower the roughness. I Telling you that, Because i guess it will be possible theoretically in future to bind a roughness slider to the weather I guess 🧐

[ember river]

I see. It would require some kind of "Injection" to read the weather valur from somewhere in the game and update the shader's uniforms 🤔

[sage wraith]

Hm but I prefer higher quality instead of much lights. Above all, if you have a bad graphicscard. Think about that a lot of textures with a lot of shading maps are missing now, they will eat a lot of performance too

[sage wraith]

Yes, but I guess remix will be able to do that

[tawny elk]

I mean if I use the default high setting I get like 60fps with my 3080.

[tawny elk]

That applies it globally though right?

[sage wraith]

Yes

[sage wraith]

So I have to use dlss performance now to get ok frames with a 4090

And there are missing a LOT of textures

[ember river]

This is actually really weird. I have a 3060 non-ti, playing on balanced and the game runs smoothly 🤔

[tawny elk]

If you’re using the ultra preset, it kills performance like crazy. Using high is way better for gameplay.

[sage wraith]

so by me, i added allready 1gb of textures

and my resolution is 5120x1440, but thats not the thing

[sage wraith]

but the denoise is not so good

[tawny elk]

Sacrifices compromises have to be made

[sage wraith]

it that a new one? or will it replace another one?

[safe patrol]

New - I don't think I've shared it yet

mostly lights on buildings and stuff

[sage wraith]

yes but less noise and one lightsource per headlight is in my eyes a better deal, than multi lightsource per headlights and noisy rendering, for example 😄

[sage wraith]

oh then i will add it

[tawny elk]

I mean the more light the less denoising you need typically

The shadows and such will take longer to resolve tho.

I’m not too familiar with the implementation of the denoisers so I don’t really want to mess with their settings.

[sage wraith]

my pc says virus and quit the download

[sage wraith]

more rays per lightsource yes

how can i show my fps?

[safe patrol]

Your PC is excessively paranoid.

[tawny elk]

Are you using Edge?

[valid geyser]

nfs underground 2 rtx remastered download no virus descargar punjabi no halal

[tawny elk]

Forgot the .exe

[sage wraith]

yea i dont know what he want^^ the other files were fine

[sage wraith]

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1TNUO4dSAUV6-oJqF-RV6niiB5IxpTZIT/view?usp=sharing

here are all my texture, i added yet.
what i added:
-tunnel-walls, etc
-conductive concrete
-digital arrow-sign
-waterbuckets
-surroundings like trees, grass, stones
-road crossingstripes
-parking place
-construction site buildings
-construction site road
-unpaved street
-blue metalfence
-brickwalls
-maybe some more

[balmy chasm]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/813805428160593960/1122969320335609976/axTj5wxna-e3p1Ko38Mb4nRibXGCMX6SBStqvCRHtEQ.png
basically what we do

[sage wraith]

Haha yes 😂

For a lot things it needs new models to look good 😅

[tawny elk]

I really should learn how to use the substance pipeline for materials one day..

[sage wraith]

I started 2days ago with substance, before I only used gimp for all.

[tawny elk]

Are you using sampler or going through the process of using designer and such?

[jade briar]

So I spent the last few days playing through GTA v

Lemme tell you something

The road textures in that game

Tile a lot

I mean

A LOT

But the tiling isn't super jarring

I wonder why

@ember river

Got any ideas

[tawny elk]

My bet is shaders, vertex painting, and clever texture work.

[bright hedge]

@jade briar 🌯

[jade briar]

Truly

[bright hedge]

[jade briar]

I guess

[safe patrol]

As several of us are sharing textures now, can I PLEASE ask that everyone name their textures after their hash for consistency? It will make it far easier to avoid running into duplicate problems, which remix currently does not handle very well at all.

[tawny elk]

||I like to give my textures their own names. I named the road Philip.||

[safe patrol]

<hash>.dds, <hash>_normal.dds, <hash>_rough.dds, <hash>_emissive.dds, <hash>_metallic.dds

[jade briar]

Jameson.dds

[sage wraith]

Im using Designer

[sage wraith]

Puuh but the hashes Are so shit Codes 😅

[tawny elk]

It's hard to figure out what the textures go to without them

[safe patrol]

yeah it's a pain in the butt to cross reference your usda with your textures instead of just looking at the filename

[sage wraith]

So im looking in create if the texture is allready changed. If yes i dont Change it ^^

[safe patrol]

you have a small-bush-4.dds that's not even used in your usda...

[sage wraith]

I have Some unused textures in my folder, i created Some variations but didnt Need all of them

[safe patrol]

sigh. tree1 isn't used either

[sage wraith]

Yes

Its wip

^^

[tawny elk]

They're bonus textures

[sage wraith]

When i find in Future another Tree i have a texture for ;D

[safe patrol]

that's fine. Just...like I said, if you name things by their hash it will make things for everyone else way easier.

Please.

[sage wraith]

Can i copy the hashname out of create?

[safe patrol]

I think so. I've been avoiding create lately because I find it clunky and annoying

[sage wraith]

Oh ok

Ok without create it will be Hard to See which texture is used on the meshes 😂

[safe patrol]

I'm doing it all through remix

[sage wraith]

Ingame?!

[safe patrol]

yep

[sage wraith]

Ok🧐

And that works without a restart?

[ember cobalt]

it can load changes made to mod.usda when you re-select the game

[tawny elk]

You can live edit everything in the mod.usda

[sage wraith]

When I change the mod.usda my game freezes

[ember cobalt]

this doesn't work in every game however, and sometimes it breaks for no reason

[safe patrol]

sometimes that happens to me but alt-f4 and restart is quicker than most tasks in OMV create

[sage wraith]

Hm

For me create runs really smooth

[safe patrol]

what's your GPU?

[sage wraith]

4090

[tawny elk]

How much ram you got 👀

[safe patrol]

haha, see I'm running a 3060 ti

[sage wraith]

22gb

[safe patrol]

I have 64GB ram - that's definitely not a problem. But vram on the other hand...

[tawny elk]

Welp I'm out of ideas

[sage wraith]

Okey 😅

[sage wraith]

But this card has 8gb?

Or 12

[safe patrol]

8

[sage wraith]

Oh ok that’s less 😅

By me create using in start up over 11gb 😅

[ember river]

I'm not sure on the precise details that rockstar used but usually a combination of well painted textures with decals, as well as some terrain blending shaders and other shader effects are used to add variety. Best we can do now is make the texture very neutral with not many eye-catching details that makes tiling obious 🤔
In Krita, there is a very useful tool when you press W, it tiles the image endlessly so you can zoom out and paint so the tiling becomes less obvious:

[ember cobalt]

i frequently run out of VRAM when using Create and Remix together 😦

8 GB sucks

[tawny elk]

Speaking of which, make sure you adjust your shader cache when using OV

Needs to be set at 1GB plus

It resets every driver update as well

[ember cobalt]

oh yeah

i disabled my shader cache

[sage wraith]

Ok then I understand your problem with it 🥺

[ember cobalt]

i forgot to re-enable it

[tawny elk]

That'll mess up OV like crazy

[ember cobalt]

surprisingly it's fine

like not a single issue

[tawny elk]

It prevents me from using anything but OV

[ember cobalt]

i've been using it like this for a month now

[tawny elk]

So I can't run the game and OV

[ember cobalt]

i could barely do that to begin with, so i guess it didn't change much for me? i dunno

anyway, i'll re-enable it

[sage wraith]

Ohwe 🙈 now I realize my luxury😅🙈

[ember cobalt]

yeah 😦

OV crashes frequently for me from the struggle, lol

[sage wraith]

I’m using remix, substance and create at the same time

[safe patrol]

says the guy who bought the single most powerful and expensive GPU on the planet (not counting enterprise)

[sage wraith]

That would kill me🙈

[sage wraith]

😅 so mainly I bought it for Minecraft 😂

[tawny elk]

I might be getting an RTX 8000 from work so soon I might have 48GB of vram.

[sage wraith]

But I didn’t tought that smaller vram brings that big shit of issues

[safe patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/zach-galifinakis-hangover-hangover-alan-alan-hairflip-gif-13142173

[sage wraith]

For working like that I guess it’s good 👍🏽

[tawny elk]

No I’m buying it off work, they no longer need them and they have 10 of them I believe.

[ember cobalt]

send me one while you're at it please 😛

[tawny elk]

If y’all wanna buy one too. They were 10k new so I don’t know how cheap they’ll let them go.

[sage wraith]

Yes I understood.^^ but this kind of card is not good for gaming. But for working like this remix stuff I guess

[tawny elk]

It’s a 3080 with loads more vram so it’s about where I’m at now.

[sage wraith]

Yes and kosts 4times more then a 4090 ;D

And I don’t know if you can use the normal GeForce Treiber with it so maybe you get issues with some games

[tawny elk]

I mean I’m not going to buy it if it’s more worthwhile to just buy 2 4090s.

[tawny elk]

I think you can, we have some test benches at the office I could check and see if it does nonetheless.

[safe patrol]

wassertonnendeckel translates to water butt cover?

[sage wraith]

Haha yea 😂

[safe patrol]

what...is that?

[tawny elk]

Is this an intersection

[sage wraith]

The yellow water buckets on the highway

So the covers for them

[tawny elk]

Those are crash barriers

[sage wraith]

Yes 😂

So my English is shit^^ I don’t wanted to translate for every texture I made 😂

[tawny elk]

Is that the German name for them ?

[ember cobalt]

yellow water buckets?

sure is!

[safe patrol]

see if you used hash names you wouldn't have to!

[sage wraith]

No ^^
Aufprallpuffer would be more correct

[sage wraith]

But then I had needed 10min per name to tip it in 😅

[ember river]

Yup. Their roughness map

[tawny elk]

You can use middle mouse click to copy them from the categorization part of the remix ui.

[sage wraith]

And in create?

😄

So maybe I will do it tomorrow or for the next upload ^^ for me is it much easier to work with textures, where I see what it is

[ember river]

New sidewalks! LA inspired. With that I'm finished with the first roads assignment, I guess. Next I'll make the puddle/wetter version of them all

[sage wraith]

Nice! I Like them

[ember river]

Ok now I realized the normals for the background base texture are a bit weird. Let me fix them quickly

[jade briar]

That looks pretty good

[sage wraith]

But it’s no high res? The black stripe looks a bit blury

[jade briar]

Damn. Now that we have EMAN doing his thing. I'm out of a job

[ember river]

Now its a bit better. There is a hatching pattern on the concrete that I'm not sure about yet.

[tawny elk]

Tuning shop time

[safe patrol]

I wouldn't mind the hatching going away. But otherwise it looks awesome

[ember river]

Kind of. It is 512x4096. They are being rounded a bit by the sobel algorithm in chaiNNer

[safe patrol]

I have a texture I was gonna share for the metal diamond pattern there but now that I look at the size of the orizinal texture, I need to adjust mine. I don't want it to look ridiculously large like that.

[sage wraith]

Aah Okey 👍🏽

[ember river]

Here are the dds files. I just now realized there are muddy roads and the cobblestone pavement that I didn't touch.

[sage wraith]

To you convert the albedo from png to dds in chainner?

[sage wraith]

Muddy Road i ve allready Made new

[ember river]

Nooooo, we need you here man 🥲 🙏

[jade briar]

Yea

[sage wraith]

Take a Look befor you do it

[sage wraith]

Thats Not good

[ember river]

Yup. I paint a bump map on top of the albedo and feed it to chaiNNer to generate a decent normal map

It is not fed straight from color to normal

[sage wraith]

No i mean that you get the albedo.dds out of chainner

[ember river]

Anyway guys, I've got to go. Will be on the phone. Later...

[jade briar]

I appoint myself "Project manager" and if anyone has an issue

Jk

[ember cobalt]

whoever made the thread by default is the ruler

[jade briar]

Nuh uh

[ember river]

Uhrray! We've got a PM now. A growing organization

[jade briar]

To be honest tho. I've been the one making a lot of the calls on what's gonna be added in the main version that we have right now.

Most notably the lighting work.

[tawny elk]

[tawny elk]

Looks so meh

Might be the conrete texture

[safe patrol]

what's the hash for the diamond plate there? So I can make sure I'm looking at the right one?

[tawny elk]

mat_77C852987FD13D9E

Rollers are mat_E45F7A0891B5F4E0

[safe patrol]

ok try this, it might help

I'm still not sure about the scale

[tawny elk]

Oh no I led you astray. 77C85.. is the ssides of the dyno. Not the metal diamond

mat_FDA84ADD9D36EF65 is the diamond metal

[safe patrol]

haha, ok thanks

[safe patrol]

do you need me to throw together a usda for it to add as a sublayer or can you swap them in manually from there?

[tawny elk]

Aw my game crashed

[jade briar]

L

[tawny elk]

I can manually swap them

[safe patrol]

I'm putting together an alternative so you can choose which looks better

[tawny elk]

I think the blue base coat helps ground it a lot if you're able to retain it.

[safe patrol]

I could modify it a bit probably

ok give me a min to see what I can pull together.

[tawny elk]

Woah

There's more detail in that shop than at first glance

[safe patrol]

ok give this one a try

I think we'll like the scale of it better too

and I adjusted it to better match the original color

[safe patrol]

wow they filled it with all sorts of things we'll never see

[tawny elk]

Wonder if the rest of the shops are the same, I never used the debug camera to look around tbh

[tawny elk]

Did I mess something up?

[safe patrol]

it looks like the normal and metal maps aren't applying correctly. I might have messed it up

[tawny elk]

Oh I meant the color

[safe patrol]

oh no that's about right. I can adjust it - it might have turned out a bit too pink

[tawny elk]

Game crashed again. Guess I got that bug that GulliUlli had with materials

I like how this lighting setup came out tho

[safe patrol]

I don't have a capture of FDA84ADD9D36EF65 original texture - can you post it here so I can grab a more accurate color sample?

[safe patrol]

TY

ok I have two options. I can make the whole thing tinted that color, like the original, or I can make it so it looks like it was painted that color but the raised bits have worn off to bare steel

or I can give you both and we can see what we like

here's the painted version

here's the version with the whole thing tone-mapped

[ionic prawn]

how to install

[safe patrol]

uh...if you're not familiar with remix, usda files, and/or omniverse, I'd hold off until we have a new alpha version that includes it.

[tawny elk]

The one where it was painted all that baby blue and then the raised bits are worn off is what it's intent was

That's how those diamond metal surfaces come from the factory

[safe patrol]

ok cool use that one

[jade briar]

If you want the latest release version of the project them check pins. Otherwise wait until I compile the 50000 usd files that everyone has posted into one mod file.

[safe patrol]

and in case I wasn't clear, I meant this one
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[ember river]

How is that process exactly? I've been reading the usd docs and seems to be easy to integrate using their python libs. Maybe that git hook idea I've mentioned isn't so far from us. I've been having some other ideas to improve our workflow too 🤔

[jade briar]

I'm gonna be honest. I've got no idea. But, the manual process isn't so difficult either. The process is as simple as drag and drop.

The usd files are in "USDA" format, so they should be easily readable in any text editor. Maybe you can study one.

[tawny elk]

Honestly, pretty easy imo. Just rename the other people's usda's and add them as a sublayer.

[ember river]

Yeah I've managed to overlay some USDs from my captures with the mod.usda file on top in Create. I've read the NVidia docs and there is this python lib to "officially" manage and overlay usd files. Think I'll give it a try. With that, everyone could have their own usd file on a repository and upon commit, a hook script could use that lib to merge everyone's usd files into a final one.

[tawny elk]

The key is that they need to have their paths setup right

Also, gas station

[jade briar]

Whoa. Car lights.

[tawny elk]

I love how much they abuse this poor ceiling texture

It's so stretched everywhere

[ember river]

Nothing that a 16k texture wouldn't solve lol

[tawny elk]

Sketchy gas station's be like

[jade briar]

Gotta save on work. And memory. Mostly work.

[tawny elk]

I think the UV map is fucked tbh

Oh yea that little edge defiently wants to be lit up

[safe patrol]

Is that using my replacement? I only bumped it up to 1k but dang, if they're using it here I can make it much bigger

oh I can add an emissive there

[tawny elk]

I think so

[tawny elk]

That texture is used everywhere

[safe patrol]

ok I'll work on that tomorrow. Gotta wrap things up for today.

[tawny elk]

Like the entire parking garage ceiling is that texture

[jade briar]

Add lights to it

[tawny elk]

Say no more

[safe patrol]

<cough>emissive</cough>

[tawny elk]

Emissive gives it the glow, and lights give it the throw

[safe patrol]

ok fair enough

I'll do the glow, you do the throw.

Honestly I didn't think that would need much throw personally, but...

but that poor gas station will look much nicer with some good lighting

[tawny elk]

Lemme do a comparison

[jade briar]

That's how I describe my ||penis||

[tawny elk]

Mark said I can use all the lights

[jade briar]

Oh boy

That is

Sub optimal

[safe patrol]

DOOO IT

[tawny elk]

Doesn't even dent the performance tbh

ReSTIR be magical

[jade briar]

I was talking about loong rect lights on the rims

[tawny elk]

Oh I'm adding that now

[safe patrol]

oh @tawny elk what did the garage look like with the new metal texture? you never posted a picture

[tawny elk]

I got tired of the game crashing and went over to coal harbor

I might go back to the garage after dinner

[safe patrol]

ok fair enough. I'll poke my head in later to see. I've gotta go for now.

[jade briar]

Hey uh. Adam. Can you like just make a separate file for all your new lights except for the ones hellraven has already made

Also don't make them bright as the sun

[tawny elk]

They're adjusted to 0.75 exposure now

No AE / EA

[jade briar]

Should be compatible with hell's

[tawny elk]

No idea which one he's done

I can break it apart by usage / unique location

[jade briar]

Notice for everyone making custom textures.

Textures should be placed in
Rtx-remix>mods>gamereadyassets>textures>[subfolder]

[tawny elk]

||I like to keep mine in system32||

[jade briar]

Keep all assets nice and tidy before managing things turns into a shitshow

[tawny elk]

Unicode names for all my lights. Got it

[ember cobalt]

syswow64

[tawny elk]

Rect sources kinda bleh when put sideways. Lemme try it again.

[tawny elk]

The wow part makes it go faster

[jade briar]

O yi

Yeah

That looks good

[jade briar]

The edges are like. Solid red. Could work nicely with some gradient.

[tawny elk]

For sure. I just set it as emissive to see if it looked good.

[jade briar]

Looks great so far

[safe patrol]

yeah I'll play with it tomorrow and see if I can come up with something that looks semi-realistic

[safe patrol]

I've updated all my stuff to this standard and my next releases will be in this format

[jade briar]

Thank you

[tawny elk]

Railyard

[jade briar]

Looks great.

[tawny elk]

I'm gonna stop for tonight. I'll do the port tomorrow

[sage wraith]

How got you the headlight in this Form?

[balmy chasm]

@ember cobalt @tawny elk @safe patrol Just wanted to share my setup on 4k display. I have a youtube window open in Chrome on another display, but it's not a big difference. As you can see, I give myself plenty of space for anything but viewport in OV because it is most resource intensive as well as game itself. Hope it helps. As for DLSS, I haven't noticed difference between modes, it creates hallow in each one

[cloud crypt]

Well, the same way i did with traffic

[sage wraith]

And how did you do that?

I Tested it with the focus etc but then the lightsouce stops his work ingame

[cloud crypt]

Just adding light to the mesh with preserveoriginaldrawcall = 1

[cloud crypt]

Dont use focus, remix cant use that

[sage wraith]

Is that a textline i have to Add?

[cloud crypt]

Just a coneangle of 65 with a bit softness and really bright

[cloud crypt]

Yes

[sage wraith]

Aah ok

Then i will Look in your usda later

[cloud crypt]

Basically it looks like:

over mesh ********
preserve....
Light

[sage wraith]

Which Kind of lightsource Doesnt matter i guess?

[sage wraith]

Ok thx 🙏

[cloud crypt]

Only sphere and rect doesnt get culled

[sage wraith]

Ok Good i used disc

[sage wraith]

custom int preserveOriginalDrawCall = 1
this line i allready added, otherwise the light doesnt work at all#

but where can i change the sharp of it

[balmy chasm]

Shape tab in light settings in OV

[sage wraith]

that was what i tried, but then the light doesnt work anymore ingame

[balmy chasm]

Don't touch cone angle for rect light and adjust softness

[sage wraith]

im using disc light

will it work with that?

[balmy chasm]

Can you ss shape settings for it?

[sage wraith]

ss?

[balmy chasm]

ScreenShot

[sage wraith]

ah ok wait

[balmy chasm]

Shaping tab please

[sage wraith]

oh lol

[balmy chasm]

Height and Width of 100 is no good

[sage wraith]

i changed nothing it it, because then the lights doesnt work ingame anymore

ah no wait

that i changed^^

but i dont know why anymore

maybe to get more light ingame, without to have little suns in the front

[balmy chasm]

Set it to 1 first so it's not the size of the entire map

[sage wraith]

ah ok now i get a sharp ;D

hm looks weird

and ingame its flickering as fuck now

[elfin beacon]

last two days*

[sage wraith]

Lightsource cant be binded to textures?

[balmy chasm]

Nah. Only offset from mesh origin

[sage wraith]

ok

are all parapeters in "sharping" are broke?

[balmy chasm]

Softness is not

[sage wraith]

okey

[thorny pawn]

nvidia sweating right now as they created the 4090 for the sole purpose of being able to run Omniverse Create

[thorny pawn]

love the accessibility features ❤️ (for visually impaired npcs)

[thorny pawn]

maybe we can vote i'm for whoever made the call on warm lights and staying true to the game and naming things by hashes

[thorny pawn]

what did we end up doing with headlights?

[jade briar]

That'd be me. It was so hard to convince hell raven to not make every light its own funky color

[elfin beacon]

https://youtu.be/solRLrJA1vM

Grape.

[plucky musk]

I installed underground rtx remix but speed2.exe did not open. What is the solution?

[jade briar]

I don't know. Follow the instructions carefully, and install it to a fresh copy of the game without any modifications. Also make sure the game isn't installed in the c drive or any other location where the game might need admin rights.

[tawny elk]

You can adjust the resolution scale in OV in the the viewport settings to as low as like 5%.

[tawny elk]

I ended up making them a child of a car mesh that never gets culled. If you search for RX7 in my lights.usda you can see how I did the taillights and headlights.

[plucky musk]

Is it installed on the D drive so it won't boot? step by step exactly how the folder name is in the correct location.

[tawny elk]

What graphics card do you have

[sage wraith]

so thats the best result i got for now

[ember river]

Why is it set up for each vehicle?

[tawny elk]

1. Haven’t found a mesh shared between all vehicles that doesn’t get culled. I suppose the bottom might be the same mesh but not sure.
2. Each headlight location is unique to each car.

[sage wraith]

that would be the alternate for a better outline, but the light semself is a bit weird then

[sage wraith]

so i tested it with the bottom, but then i didnt get any light?! ^^

[tawny elk]

It probably gets culled

[jade briar]

Someone help this man

[ember river]

If you install a camhack mod (or modify camera position using, say, Cheat Engine) so that the camera doesn't looks at the car at all, it might be possible to see what gets cullet and what doesn't

[tawny elk]

The whole car gets filled afaik.

There’s no back face culling in the game, so there’s a lot of aggressive camera culling.

[ember river]

Honestly it makes sense. It is hard to find something that works

[tawny elk]

there is back face culling when placed by hand but it’s not automatic.

The front wheels have a texture placed that indicates to cull them off the texture is visible or something

I spent about a month and a half trying to reverse engineer the culling system with little gains.

[ember river]

I woke up the bed today thinking about that. What did you find?

Maybe some binary patching could neutralize it all together if it could be found

[jade briar]

You should install zolika's mod menu. It has free cam, other custom cameras, and a whole bunch of other utilites that I find quite useful.

[severe solstice]

[sage wraith]

so i thing thats a good result!
it is useable for all headlights out of the box ( i guess)

here is the code with an example mesh:

over "mesh_5E5D42E3BF16CFE4"
{
custom int preserveOriginalDrawCall = 1

        def SphereLight "Stock_VL" (
            prepend apiSchemas = ["ShapingAPI"]
        )
        {
            float diffuse = 10000
            bool enableColorTemperature = 1
            float exposure = 1
            float height = 100
            float intensity = 400
            bool normalize = 0
            float radius = 0.1
            float shaping:cone:angle = 46.4
            float shaping:cone:softness = 0.1
            float shaping:focus = 7.1
            color3f shaping:focusTint
            asset shaping:ies:file
            float specular = 500000
            float width = 100
            double3 xformOp:rotateXYZ = (46.30000068992376, 0, 279.900004170835)
            double3 xformOp:scale = (0.1, 0.1, 0.1)
            double3 xformOp:translate = (2.6, 0.55, 0.4)
            uniform token[] xformOpOrder = ["xformOp:translate", "xformOp:rotateXYZ", "xformOp:scale"]
        }

        def SphereLight "Stock_VR" (
            prepend apiSchemas = ["ShapingAPI"]
        )
        {
            float diffuse = 10000
            bool disableFogInteraction = 0
            bool enableColorTemperature = 1
            float exposure = 1
            float height = 100
            float intensity = 400
            bool light:enableCaustics = 0
            bool normalize = 0
            float radius = 0.1
            float shaping:cone:angle = 36.4
            float shaping:cone:softness = 0.1
            float shaping:focus = 5.4
            color3f shaping:focusTint
            float shaping:ies:angleScale = 0
            asset shaping:ies:file
            float specular = 500000
            bool visibleInPrimaryRay = 0
            float width = 100
            double3 xformOp:rotateXYZ = (65.30000097304583, 0, 251.50000374764204)
            double3 xformOp:scale = (0.1, 0.1, 0.1)
            double3 xformOp:translate = (2.5, -0.55, 0.4)
            uniform token[] xformOpOrder = ["xformOp:translate", "xformOp:rotateXYZ", "xformOp:scale"]
        }
    }

[tawny elk]

Bunch of camera transforms, LOD distance, camera location update Boolean.

[ember river]

Ur screen could fit the game twice

[sage wraith]

thats true^^

[tawny elk]

Honestly if I attempted to figure it out again, I’d probably get further.

[spark moon]

With Denoise disabled

[spark moon]

i just need know how to add volumetric fog and lighting

[ember river]

I was wondering, with that asset shaping:ies:file, wouldn't it be possible to add a custom texture so a single light source would have the shape of two headlights?

Something like this

[sage wraith]

hm i dont know if that works, but you can try it

[tawny elk]

No it’s not supported. I would love it to be.

I have tons of IES files for fixtures from work that I’d love to use.

[sage wraith]

i found a mesh (for 240sx) which will work for all configs i guess. so i found no tuning option, which will change the mesh (frontwindow)

[torn star]

guys, I'm sorry for that propably stupid question. I've installed rtx libs and bridge, but when I run the game I can see only extra glowing colors everywhere, and debug geometry doesn't show anything, any changes in these tabs make nothing. Should I reinstall the game? or should I try another game? I have gf rtx 3070 laptop gpu

[jade briar]

Did you follow the tutorial?

[ember river]

Nice. Excuse me but, what is your job? Never asked

[jade briar]

Lighting artist (allegedly)

[torn star]

Yeah I know about the tutorial and how to install current mod, but I'm just curious why I'm not able to change\edit anything on my clean version of NFSU2 'out-of-box'.

[jade briar]

I found a very nice website with a huge library of links to manufacturers giving out their ies samples. It had nice previews and a fairly well made catagory/search section.

[jade briar]

First thing should be that do not install the game in the c drive

Other than that, the tutorial is made with widescreen fix in mind.

[tawny elk]

I know of it

It’s good for grabbing the generic visual distribution of a light but it really lacks the context of what the light fixture looks like imo.

[jade briar]

The website I'm talking about links to the manufacturers websit

[safe patrol]

I'll give that a try

[tawny elk]

Yea but it doesn’t show the actual light fixture. So the context of what that looks like is lost. It’s a great for the light shape tho.

[tawny elk]

||Electrical engineer, but I do a lot of lighting design and planning on getting licensed in that rather than a PE. ||

[bright hedge]

blame nvidia's dumb a ss decisions

[tawny elk]

|| So if anyone wants a write up on how accurate the building systems in underground 2, let me know ||

[spiral fable]

holly shit is seems like y'all are moveing so fast with this thing, do you recon it would be playable in 3-4 months ?

[jade briar]

ahahahaha

Not at all

I mean. It's playable right now

[safe patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/release-date-lilayah-cyberpunk2077-when-its-ready-gif-13395511

[jade briar]

But nowhere near finished

[surreal ruin]

We don't even have all the tools from Nvidia to do the work that's needed yet

[sage wraith]

So im working at the Moment on adding light to all Cars, so with that you will „can“ Play i guess,

[safe patrol]

That will be awesome. I'm putting together a package with more or less everything that's been shared so far. If I can get Adam's shop lights added and your car lights, and maybe an updated lights from hellraven, it might be a good time for a new alpha build.

I'm trying my best to make Burrito's packaging job easier

[tawny elk]

Once I get done with Coal Harbor Ill look into putting a release package on my repo

[jade briar]

[sage wraith]

But its only lightsource, to all of them will Need emissive Textures

[safe patrol]

I've already got the emissives

well, at least a lot of them. I'm adding them as I find them

[tawny elk]

I got that too

[sage wraith]

For ALL Cars And ALL tuning Parts?

[safe patrol]

for a lot of them.

[tawny elk]

Did you join it?

[sage wraith]

Okey Sounds good

[safe patrol]

Like I said, I'm adding them as I find them.

[safe patrol]

oh hey, me too

[tawny elk]

I’ll go see what’s going on there

[balmy chasm]

Why diffuse, not albedo?

[safe patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/good-luck-good-luck-gif-20034388

[spiral fable]

hmmm, i'll probably wait it out a little more, I wish I could help you all somehow (and if you are wondering what I am waiting for, here are a few things, the car paint looks a bit strange, the windows aren't transparent and the environments seem a little dark) not to dissmiss your work, in fact I love it, I just wanted to give you some feedback

[safe patrol]

because the chainner script I used as a starting point used diffuse as a naming convention and I didn't change it. And Kim's python script is happy with diffuse

[spiral fable]

love your work bro

[surreal ruin]

sadly there's nothing that can be done about the car paint atm.

[tawny elk]

I’m back. It’s all in Russian.

[safe patrol]

it would be nice to have google translate built-in to discord for instances like that

[jade briar]

nope.

[spiral fable]

one more question, would any work on U2 also help with a MW remaster ?

[surreal ruin]

Nah

[jade briar]

Maybe. Just maybe. Some textures could be reused.

[safe patrol]

@jade briar ok put on your PM hat. Are we releasing this under any sort of license? Creative Commons? Public Domain?

[fallen pine]

Im ssory

[jade briar]

It's fine. JUST A LITTLE RANDOM.

[tawny elk]

I mean personally I have a much better workflow figured out. So adding lights and such is way faster.

[jade briar]

also

[fallen pine]

I just wanted to invite you to the showroom

[surreal ruin]

Might be a good idea to make sure people can speak the language of the server you're inviting them too X)

[jade briar]

ohhhhhhh

yeah im not russian

[fallen pine]

It's not about communication, it's about demonstration

English is popular and this is not a language barrier

[safe patrol]

hmm. I really need to move my nfsu2 install to an SSD. With this many textures it really gets bogged down now.

where to put it...

[jade briar]

how the fuck

[safe patrol]

I use this PC for a LOT of different things

[balmy chasm]

Almost 16Tb space .-.

[safe patrol]

oh and that's not even counting network storage

[balmy chasm]

9Tb of videos? What are you recording?

[jade briar]

gyaaaaaaaaaat damn

[fallen pine]

for the most part this server is used to exchange cars

[elfin beacon]

Elements are getting out of periodic table bruhh.

[fallen pine]

I don't know how the rtx remix works, but I've done things like this

[safe patrol]

Oh I have more than 9TB of videos. I digitized my whole movie/TV collection when I had kids and realized they destroy DVDs. So I run a Jellyfin (like plex but free/open source) server and we watch everything on that.

[fallen pine]

Ssory for spam

[jade briar]

not bad

[jade briar]

Ah. the 40 yeart old file hoarder

[ember river]

great work @fallen pine

[ember river]

"Are you the accumulative type of person"
"No, not really"

[safe patrol]

there's some things that just take a rediculous amount of space too. I have an SSD that's currently almost entirely devoted to MS Flight Sim.

[jade briar]

oh yeah. I downloaded that. Tokk 14 hours to download the data from in game so no refunds. Played in vr. Really bad performance (on a 4090). Never opened again.

Got a bad headache

[safe patrol]

I don't have VR but I managed to get it set up for halfway decent performance with head tracking.

[fallen pine]

Big thanks

[ember river]

We're definitely needing some help, lots of assets to swap.
In a nutshell, AFAIK, RTX-Remix intercepts specific API calls to the GPU in old games and performs some live asset swapping, which allows to replace many types of assets, add custom lighting, even supports ray tracing. What the guys managed to make work so far is texture swapping and custom lighting. In other words, if you work with assets on their own (texturing, modelling, etc.) it should be easy to join

[surreal ruin]

Yes but not entirely! The reason why lighting and texture swapping is being done atm is because that's all that CAN be done

[safe patrol]

this isn't even counting the big cache file that's needed

[surreal ruin]

Model replacements we don't have the tools for yet

[safe patrol]

that's like another 100GB

[surreal ruin]

And texture replacements require an understanding of PBR workflows

You can't just grab a higher res photo and slap it in like you can with regular U2 modding

[safe patrol]

I'll shut up about my off-topic nonsense, sorry about that

[jade briar]

mm. photoflipping. Oldest trick in the book.

I don't know how many people know about that.

[fallen pine]

thanks, that's how I understood it. What can I do to help? I can share my modified textures and suggest something in underground modding

[surreal ruin]

Are your textures PBR based?

[jade briar]

Well, your modified textures are basically just a single color image replacement. We need pbr textures.

[fallen pine]

i redid the smoke effect in order of animation to look more natural than the one left by the developers

[fallen pine]

No, it just replacement

[safe patrol]

yeah sadly we'll need most things remade from scratch with proper PBR materials

[jade briar]

Are particles replaceable?

iirc they're not.

[tawny elk]

The texture is

[surreal ruin]

No not yet sadly

[fallen pine]

Yes

[jade briar]

Well all we need to do is replace the texture, don't we?

[safe patrol]

GUI stuff could be used, and maybe those giant billboard signs

[surreal ruin]

Mark did mention they had considered implementing the Nvidia fluid sims, but that was just an internal discussion and nothign decided on yet

[jade briar]

No I'm talking about remix. It's a whole other set of problems when it comes to replacing assets in remix.

[tawny elk]

||I can’t wait to put silly things on those ||

[fallen pine]

do you know how to open .bin files?

[safe patrol]

Oh I already have 😄

[tawny elk]

The game files?

[fallen pine]

Yap

[surreal ruin]

Remix has its own pipeline for replacing assets, we don't need to modify the game files

[surreal ruin]

Didn't mark mention that flipbook support is in rn?

[fallen pine]

Ik

[surreal ruin]

If so we could easily render out some nice smoke flipbooks

[jade briar]

welllllllllllllllllll

We could just replace the smoke texture in the game files

[safe patrol]

hahahahahaha first test after moving everything to /textures/ and I very obviously broke something

[fallen pine]

but it might come in handy for other things

[tawny elk]

Love it. Ship it

[ember river]

I'd love to spin up some blender simulations. Have done in the past for space engineers and it was sick

[jade briar]

Yeah, you'll have to probably redo the paths.

[surreal ruin]

TRUE! But if done through a flipbook, we could also flipbook a normal for them

[fallen pine]

You need nfs texEd 1.7

[safe patrol]

I did but obviously not correctly

[surreal ruin]

Which would help give the smoke some nice depth

[jade briar]

Hold on. You saying that brought back bad memories.

[surreal ruin]

Fluid sims are fun times

[spiral fable]

ngl, evo with red headlights is a vibe

[surreal ruin]

No we don't, Remix has its own tools for it

If the goal is to work with PBR stuff that is

[jade briar]

god

[balmy chasm]

You tried :D

[jade briar]

I sure did

[surreal ruin]

D.va RX-7? X)

[fallen pine]

the world files are in the TRACKS folder - in STREAM...BUN file

texture files for effects, particles and interface are located in the GLOBAL folder

[jade briar]

Yeah, it's pretty cool.

[safe patrol]

ok that's better. It didn't like me putting the individual separate usda files in textures/. they need to be in gameReadyAssets/

[surreal ruin]

I dig, I dig

[fallen pine]

Wtf

Jesus car

[jade briar]

lol

[surreal ruin]

Appreciate the help but this isn't how remix works, we don't actually replace the games files, we normally don't have to touch them

[jade briar]

That'd be

Moses?

[surreal ruin]

New textures are added through the remix suite

[tawny elk]

They’re relative to the usda file. So they need to be in the same folder as it.

[ember river]

In the remit pipeline, you drive until the place in map you want to replace assets for and hit a "Capture" button that will capture a snapshot of everything that is being rendered in the frame and will save in local files, all textures, models, lights, etc. as well as a Scene Descriptor ".usd" file. With that you can modify stuff to replace assets and load the replacement files live in game. No need do mess with original game files

[jade briar]

I'm gonna ask mark about the status on the flipbook textures.

[tawny elk]

I’m certain they’re supported

[safe patrol]

well I specified that they were in /textures in mod.usda but it still didn't like that.

[surreal ruin]

Bueno shit!

[fallen pine]

this is going to be a very, very long job

[jade briar]

I don't know if it's a compliment or not, but I'm gonna take it as one.

[safe patrol]

oh hey who fixed the brick stuff here yesterday and did you share that with us?

[fallen pine]

but what you do is really cool

[surreal ruin]

Yup, but that's how it works 😛

[surreal ruin]

Oh naw it is! Looks nice mate.

[fallen pine]

guys i'm your fan

[balmy chasm]

I didn't. Will share when I finish all the garages

[jade briar]

Thx. HOWEVER. I didn't make the model. I was testing it for someone.

I'll take it as a "You're good at lighting and rendering"

[surreal ruin]

Aah fair'nuff! Well the render's nice too

[safe patrol]

cool will look forward to that

[ember river]

nfsu2 deserves it

[fallen pine]

Shiish, a remix can add a 3d object? 😳 or only lights and textures?

[balmy chasm]

Will be able to

[fallen pine]

I could create a 3d environment from the beta version of the game

[balmy chasm]

*but not colission models

[fallen pine]

Yes

[surreal ruin]

We can't edit 3D meshes yet

[fallen pine]

I show

[surreal ruin]

Still waiting for the tools

[sage wraith]

Wrong texture pathes in the mod.usda

[surreal ruin]

Speaking of asset replacements

Did anyone want to try out that storefront texture set I made?

[jade briar]

oh. Sure

[spiral fable]

can you extraxct 3d meshes from the game though ?

[surreal ruin]

Yes

[jade briar]

Yes.

[spiral fable]

lets gooooo

i know how to use blender

[jade briar]

I mean. YOu could always do that.

[spiral fable]

maybe I can help you guys in the future

[jade briar]

Well, model replacements aren't really working that well right now.

[fallen pine]

This is a beta map from the ps2 demo. If it was possible to find the files, then I would try to return these objects to the game (not the fact that it will work). There were balloons over the car dealer, the Morgan Hotel had a different preview, the bar and parking lot outside the Plaza Hotel weren't so empty, there was some kind of memorial near the audio shop near the stadium, Jackson High had additionally illuminated traffic direction indicators. The game events also had a steam effect. In short, I want to play and compare what was in the game before its release, because I didn’t show everything on the materials from the post, and I’m sure that I didn’t see it myself, it remains only to make it work

[safe patrol]

yeah I fixed it already

[sage wraith]

Did ok Change the path to the single usda‘s?

[jade briar]

Count, can you check out traggey's storefront textures?

[surreal ruin]

2K sound good enough?

[jade briar]

Yep.

[surreal ruin]

Might even be a bit much considering it's just a random storefront

[fallen pine]

did you check how rtx remix works in multiplayer?

(Lan play)

[tawny elk]

We really need some way to keep track of everyone’s textures I’ll ponder some ways

[surreal ruin]

Remix can't render multiple cameras at the same time right now

[ember river]

I was typing when u said that.

Guys, look at that. I've managed to merge 4 usd captures using Pixar's python API. With that we could maybe create the One capture to rule them all. The whole city. But as I've mentioned, what I'm looking for is to create a more stable workflow for us to share stuff in a git repo

[surreal ruin]

I am never in my life again touching git.

[fallen pine]

no, this is just a game through LAN emulation

[ember river]

Here is the code

[surreal ruin]

If it's running on multiple systems then I don't see why it wouldn't work

Although to answer your question no I don't think anyone here has tested that

[ember river]

The orientation bit isn't working though. The scene is in right hand rule and the captures are left or vice versa

[fallen pine]

would you like to try?

i can tell you what it takes

potentially, so you can quickly capture territories

[surreal ruin]

I'm personally not interested but someone in here may be! Remix just injects new visuals so I don't see how it would function any different from any other parts of the game

[ember river]

Well, I don't see a reason for remix not working in multiplayer, it only won't render stuff you have in someone else's PC, but it is a totally client-side mod

[ember river]

Indeed, and by the way remix does it, as far as the game is concerned, nothing has changed at all

[fallen pine]

well, or show the race on lan network with rtx mode, it would be interesting on YouTube

I generally found out about this project by accident from a third-party site like "a schoolchild-programmer made a remake"

damn

in fact, this game is still played online, on this occasion I even developed such an event

you: sneeze in the past
future:

[surreal ruin]

@jade briarAlright I'm just dumping them here because I'm a lazy dick rn, yay!

In order, Albedo, AO, Metalness, Normal ( unconverted, duh ), Roughness

[fallen pine]

people even created teams

[jade briar]

ooh

cool

[surreal ruin]

I've only tried them on the flat plane meshes I used when making it and what I showed of a few weeks back

So not sure how it will look on the in-game meshes, but I took their shape into consideration so things SHOULD be fine lol

[fallen pine]

I can share a more natural skybox with you. I drew it going out into the street, observing real weather phenomena

[balmy chasm]

AO?

[surreal ruin]

Ambient Occlusion

[balmy chasm]

I mean... Did you actually create a model of it?

[surreal ruin]

Yes

[balmy chasm]

Mindful

But we don't use it either way

[surreal ruin]

No the model was created with forced perspective skewing to align up with the original photo texture

So the stairs for example aren't straight like stairs would be

They're slanted weirdly

[tawny elk]

||You can drag and drop in ov to merge capture usds ||

Anyone have experience with https://mudstack.com?

Way cheaper than a perforce instance it seems

[surreal ruin]

Yeeeeh I use Perforce for my own and my teams stuff

But my god is it expensive

[tawny elk]

I see contact sales for pricing and I know that ain’t for us.

[surreal ruin]

LOL ye

[fallen pine]

Okay gays, if you want to play, or just look at cool cars - come
https://discord.gg/D9EX2NQvpJ
(this is not an advertisement, but rather an invitation to game room. please do not be angry with me)

and if you need my help, in the technical features of old game - I will be happy to answer you. Thanks again for warm welcome

🫂

[tawny elk]

So if we get a DAM working, would we want to just have a branch for each “main” mod usda? So Burrito’s, Count’s, mine, etc?

[spark moon]

when u posted it here i can see stop spamming peoples dm and u say this is not advertisement well yeah ...

[ember river]

The reason for an automated way is to run scripts in the repo, so it can automatically merge everyone's personal usd into a final one, which open new ways to setup pipelines, deploys, installation scripts, automatic conflicts solving and sort of automations

[jade briar]

Oaky. Now get rid of the damn culling.

[ember river]

The way I see it is having eachone their personal usd file to merge automatically into a final one. This allows us to work in feature branches (say, new-roads-jackson-heights) instead of permanent branches. Short lived branches tend to be easier to manage

[ember cobalt]

mm you guys need a new script?

guess who isn't up for it!

[fallen pine]

Blyat bad inglish

[surreal ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/abc-gif-22103787

Tripaloski my friend.

[fallen pine]

Eah boris

[tawny elk]

Ah, I understand what you mean. Once I have broken apart my light usda it’ll fit right into that flow.

I’ll contact mudstack and see if they have USD support

[fallen pine]

modern Russian folk dance

[fallen pine]

Damn, who turned on the hardbass?

[ember cobalt]

i really need to figure out the USD python library

[ember river]

If you're up to make some texturing work, you don't need necessarily to deal with any RTX related stuff that much. @jade briar is our PM now so he can assign stuff to you 😉

[balmy chasm]

Do you have RTX card in the first place?

[fallen pine]

I guess I have no experience with editing software. I will be glad if you tell me what and how I can be useful

[balmy chasm]

No way. Which GPU you got?

[fallen pine]

Amd laptop

[balmy chasm]

gg, well played

[fallen pine]

🇮🤡

I did not expect to play with such graphics to be honest

I would like to, but I can't

[jade briar]

I'm gonna be honest.

#showcase message

Pretty sure the channel is specifically for posting results from remix.

[fallen pine]

Its right

[elfin beacon]

Ok mod.

[plain stag]

I know with my team we work on U2 map for assetto (i also release vanila) but we before want replace assetts .. and half year maybe maybe more some Buidlings so much different ones to originál i curently finishing another Project and i start work on and some assets i can send there and use it for this Project

[plain stag]

I alredy make it for assetto 🙂

[tawny elk]

It’s on their roadmap, but not supported.

[plain stag]

its looks weird in day light like this ..

i also connect airport too

[balmy chasm]

Do you have any texture/model replacements?

[fallen pine]

Oh 👋 its me BOMBOMHOLE

[plain stag]

@balmy chasm mine textures what i alredy use send burito and hell raven

[plain stag]

Oh hey 😄

[fallen pine]

I haven't followed your work for a long time. Have you decided to recreate beta objects?

[plain stag]

nope cant even export they

like i said my fels they rework u2 map

i just have break and do another projects

[sage wraith]

hey, can someone send me a 100% safegame?

[balmy chasm]

What

[sage wraith]

i need a profil where are all cars are unlocked^^

[balmy chasm]

I guess zolika's menu have it?

[sage wraith]

i have one

thx

[ember cobalt]

wow. surprisingly chatgpt 3.5 knows of it and is fully capable of writing code for it

[safe patrol]

what's the hash for the mat this applies to?

[safe patrol]

I moved all the individual usdas back to gameReadyAssets/ and changed the references in mod.usda from ./textures/<something>.usda to ./<something>.usda

[sage wraith]

ah ok

[safe patrol]

so they're still all separate but in the root directory

[random token]

does anybody tried RTX with car mods like this?
https://nfsmods.xyz/search?search=NFS&game=2&category=1&order=1&showAllNFS=0

[blazing bone]

"I've just made a commit to remove the requirement for invertedUVs, so in the latest runtime replacement meshes will no longer need that step. Once that works it's way into the github and a new build is available, I'll see about updating the manual mesh replacement writeup"

Yay

[blazing bone]

We can do model replacements through remix when the tools releases

Like really high poly ones without worrying about engine limitations

[safe patrol]

and with proper PBR textures

[blazing bone]

Thats an obvious lol

[sage wraith]

but for that we need models, which are 100% tunable

[blazing bone]

We really dont need any modifed models

[safe patrol]

ok I can't check in game until I know the hash but I've converted them to proper dds so they're ready to go.

[jade briar]

ah. neat

[safe patrol]

who made this texture? I can't recall.

[jade briar]

EA world

I added it in my own textures usda

[balmy chasm]

E-man

[safe patrol]

is the transparancy working for you with it? At least for me it doesn't seem to treat it quite right and I was wondering if it needs an alpha channel

[surreal ruin]

NO CLUE! Someone sent the original texture in here and I replicated from that

[safe patrol]

ok I'll have to dig

found it! You didn't want to put any interior details in it?

[surreal ruin]

I was pondering it first but honestly on high res assets putting fake details inside tends to look SO fake

I'm used to adding that stuff via interior mapping instead

[safe patrol]

yeah. hopefully we'll have the ability to do that soon

[surreal ruin]

BUT if you guys have anything you'd like to put in there go ahead! Could just take a photo of someones room and set it as the emissive map

[safe patrol]

I'll leave it as-is for now

[surreal ruin]

Yeh probably for the best rn

Gets even messier when you look at the original because it has open windows

And getting that to look remotely ok on a flat surface would be a nightmare hah

[safe patrol]

oh hahah, I just noticed that

yeah good point

[tawny elk]

They don’t have support for DDS thumbnails for their application so I’m gonna go with a pass on it for now.

[severe solstice]

[surreal ruin]

Did it work out? Curious on the results!

[safe patrol]

I haven't found it in-game yet, I'll post a pic if I do.

[surreal ruin]

Aaah roger that!

Thank you ^^

[astral drift]

is it possible to replace models with rtx remix?

[surreal ruin]

Not yet, it will be

[astral drift]

in any game yet?

[surreal ruin]

It's the same for all games

It techincally IS possible atm

But it uses some very hard steps

Tools are coming though

[astral drift]

so does the roadmap have anything to do with it?

[surreal ruin]

Huh?

[astral drift]

So I'm asking if this feature is officially planned for rtx remix

[surreal ruin]

Yes, it's coming

[astral drift]

because usually older game engines can't handle high polygon models

so modding the game doesn't work, rtx remix support is a must

[surreal ruin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R37VjsMgWP8

[sage wraith]

17 cars are done yet

but 2 hoods are weird. they have a lightsource?! (one of them is the last hood in the list)

[tawny elk]

Idea for version control: Anyone wanting to contribute materials and binary files, would need to use something like Google Drive/Mega to host their files and then just reference the folder when it’s updated.

[safe patrol]

sigh. I just spent way too long searching for a free texture replacement on the internet for the fountain water.

[sage wraith]

that how i allready do it^^

[safe patrol]

I finally created my own private git repo too, mainly just so I have off-site backups.

[sage wraith]

thats an animated texture so i dont know if it is possible yet. i allready tested to replace the ocean water, but then its a hard flickerparty^^

[safe patrol]

we've got lots of animated textures that are already replacable. All it does it move the texture down. This is the original

[tawny elk]

Oh yea everyone having their own repo for art, as non best practice as that is, would work too.

[sage wraith]

yes the same like water

[safe patrol]

I had hoped to have a good central repo for art but since nobody has been able to agree on that as of yet, I at least have something

[tawny elk]

Those all cost loads of money to run it seems.

[sage wraith]

in my texture upload is my water texture included. you can try it with that in the ocean, if you want to try

[tawny elk]

Mudstack might work but it’s not very compatible nor fleshed out and it’s $90/month

We could try it out if y’all would like, I wouldn’t mind. They’d likely be happy to offer us a free trial to see if it works.

[safe patrol]

it gives us 50gb to work with for free, is it just the storage that the paid version gets?

more storage, that is?

and whatever "private workspaces" are

I say let's grab a free team license and give it a try

Should we let @jade briar make it, be the admin, and have all the power to accept/reject/etc?

[jade briar]

Uhhhh

Oh boy.

[safe patrol]

you wanted to be the PM afterall!

[jade briar]

As long as you don't fuck up really bad. You're good to go.

[safe patrol]

the free team account only gets one admin account, that's why I'm asking

[jade briar]

Ah.

Now how do I do it.

[safe patrol]

https://app.mudstack.com/

create an account and just sign up for a free team plan

and then invite us to the workspace

[jade briar]

I'm tempted to put in something funny

[safe patrol]

supreme leader of the galactic empire

[jade briar]

This shall suffice. For now.

Uhhhhhh

What now

[safe patrol]

so under account on the left, select plans, and create a team account

oh, you have to go to settings first

[jade briar]

So the team account will be the name of the project. That everyone will join?

[safe patrol]

I found it but I very obviously screwed something up

[safe patrol]

I think so?

[surreal ruin]

Haha yeah I don't recall making the textures pure grey!

Although I'm known to be an airhead

[safe patrol]

oh....hahaha, I forgot to copy it over from my working directory to the gameReadyAssets directory

[surreal ruin]

Thaaaat would explain it hah

[jade briar]

okay

Who wants in

Dm me your info.

[surreal ruin]

No >: I

[jade briar]

Yeah, I know.

This is kinda crappy

[safe patrol]

much better

[jade briar]

Maybe there's another way.

[surreal ruin]

EEEEEEEEEEHY

Damn

That works better than I had expected

[bitter venture]

fuck!

nice

[safe patrol]

yeah it's actually pretty good looking

now we just have to recreate every single other building in the game like this.

[jade briar]

Well, it wants only, and only emails

[safe patrol]

ok PM sent

[surreal ruin]

Well the game does re-use the textures a lot seemingly! So this same storefront should show up in a lot of other places too

I know it even loops in some places

[bitter venture]

from scratch?

[surreal ruin]

There'll also be situations like..

That corner, where the texture is obviously just stretched

[safe patrol]

that's how he did this one

[safe patrol]

that will (hopefully) be solved when we can replace meshes (and by extension UVs?)

[surreal ruin]

TRU DAT!

[jade briar]

So. Do I delete the account now?

[surreal ruin]

At which point this lil' texture I made here should ideally be completely replaced with something a bit more trim-sheet like

[safe patrol]

Why would you do that?

[jade briar]

Oh you sent me yours

Okay got you.

Everyone is a manager in this domain.

[safe patrol]

huh, I thought it would only let you be the admin?

[jade briar]

It's the wild west.

[safe patrol]

it might try and make you pay for stuff if you give anyone else advanced permissions. Uncheck those for now for anyone but yourself.

[jade briar]

Can't unless I give $90 a month 💀

[severe solstice]

sell 4090 💀

[safe patrol]

oh it must do it automatically then on the free version. I guess just leave it alone

[jade briar]

"A man sold his computer to buy a 4090. Now, he plays games on his phone."

[safe patrol]

yeah I guess just leave it alone. Wild West it is!

[jade briar]

Imagine furious clicking noises.

Well, all the furious clicking resulted in many copies of the same project?

Truly. One of the websites of all time.

[sage wraith]

so my friends, its done!

[jade briar]

Well, this is fucked up. I can not delete or edit any of the projects

At least I can create a folder.

[tawny elk]

Uh. We can get on a call with the people who make the software and have them walk us through how to use it, that’s no biggie.

If y’all want me to handle that it’s no big deal, I can get it setup and have @jade briar set as admin or whatever.

They said that there’s support for plain text files so usds will likely work.

[ember river]

Guys, could someone tell me what am I doing wrong? I'm trying to learn Create by adding a sphere light to the fountain's mesh, but in the game it simply won't show up 🤔

[tawny elk]

Can’t add it to an instance

Needs to be the mesh

[ember river]

Oh I see. So intances are kind of a useless entity for us?

[tawny elk]

Basically

[surreal ruin]

Is it just me or is the normal maps green channel in the wrong direction?

The metal pole is lit from below

But the light appears to be coming from the top

[safe patrol]

good question. I used chainner to convert from DX to octahedral

[sage wraith]

yes its important to add the source to the mesh

[tawny elk]

I posted a video tutorial about how to add lights easily. It’s under the thread “adding lights the east way” https://discord.com/channels/1028444667789967381/1114665813866205194

[ember cobalt]

i prefer weast, thank you

[safe patrol]

ah, your normal map was set up for openGL, not DirectX. Ok fixing

[safe patrol]

here's the fixed one

I can convert from either, I just need to know which it is and I unfortunately assumed.

[surreal ruin]

Ooooooooh FAIR ENOUGH

[jade briar]

The what setup?

So what about ass?

[tawny elk]

Setting up the projects and such. I can have the developers walk me through it, or we can have them walk us all through it.

[safe patrol]

Better.

[jade briar]

That'd be cool.

[safe patrol]

I vote for this.

[surreal ruin]

Oh yeah that's WAAY better, NICE

[jade briar]

It's literally the same picture.

Am I stupid?

The answer is most likely yes

[safe patrol]

yeah this one just breaks the laws of physics...less