NFSU2 (Need For Speed Underground 2)

[jade briar]

This is what happened

I mean. I still appreciate it. But god damnit. I didn't ask for it.

This is their work

https://youtu.be/RyfQEf-tHkM

[cerulean summit]

I feel like Google translate is one word away from an international incident at this point. I wouldn't be surprised if that's what they're using

[jade briar]

Most likely.

[chrome meadow]

Learn it, it's easy ||except verbs and grammar||

[jade briar]

Pretty sure I've missed my chance.

Don't wanna be a bother.

I have a Ukrainian friend

I could've asked him to write something up for me.

[thorny pawn]

why is a bunch of random stuff tagged as decal texture, like the road?

[trail quail]

give it a few days and ask him if he wants to be a part of the process by helping out with assets.

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[jade briar]

I'd do that if I could speak russian.

I'll ask my friend to help me communicate.

[surreal ruin]

A lot of that stuff is probably just premade assets anyway

[jade briar]

Less work for me.

[surreal ruin]

If you can even legally use any of it yeah

[chrome meadow]

It likely know russian, most do, I can just read Ukrainian and don't understand most of what I read 🙃 , just basic expressions and few words here and there

[jade briar]

hmm

I guess what he ended up doing is nicer.

[trail quail]

https://youtu.be/knNrUa5_AkY

[chrome meadow]

Prepare yourself for a horde of new people to which you will have to explain how to follow a written list of steps 😆

[jade briar]

AND THEY'D BE RUSSIAN

[chrome meadow]

a lot of additional work ahead 🥳

They have millions of NFS Underground fans watching their video 🔥

[trail quail]

tbf, if they learned how to get the game running and whats what they have the game clapped out in no time xddd

[stray orchid]

u could write them again what u want

[tawny elk]

[jade briar]

So true.

[tawny elk]

Okay so that's the UI...

[jade briar]

okay

Now where's the culling

[tawny elk]

Lemme check the back

[jade briar]

👍

[tawny elk]

Well that's not it either

[jade briar]

thats uh

something

[jade kayak]

kachow

[safe patrol]

would it be helpful to add emissive maps for headlights on the NPC cars or is that being done by manual light placement?

[hardy chasm]

Good to see it works well 🙂 Just fyi it currently supports sphere and rect lights and will extend it in the follow-up works. And also be careful about the max light number & frame, it will have perf concerns if keep too many lights 🙂

[jade briar]

Thank you. It was one of the two biggest problems that was keeping the game from being almost perfectly compatible. Tho mesh anti culling still doesn't work.

[hardy chasm]

Yeah the meshes have a lot more difficult shapes than lights, we are still investigating it, and will update when we figure it out. And thanks for all the good works on nfs_u2, it's very amazing rtx game now

[jade briar]

[modest obsidian]

@jade briar if you need help translating Russian, I can help, I'm a native speaker

[jade briar]

I'll see what I can do. Don't wanna bother the guy too much.

[tawny elk]

The race is on between finding how to disable culling and the nvidia team figuring out a solution on their end

[severe solstice]

:Prayge:

[tawny elk]

[severe solstice]

[jade briar]

Now's your chance to prove yourself.

Lets goooo

[dreamy ether]

You got his! Don’t let hours of hard work be wasted!

[trail quail]

i dont know if this has been talked about already but has anyone ever tried setting the headlights material as emmissive? i just tried it there and its really weird how it works. when you're stopped it sort of takes a second for the light to build up and when you're driving it cant keep up but the funny thing is when im in hood view and i start spamming the look back button they seem to be able to keep up?
i cant send a vid because obs is not cooperating with nfs

[cloud crypt]

i am back from work now, so i can go back to work on remix

in germany its now 00:47

[trail quail]

god damn what do u do

[cloud crypt]

Internet Technician

i am the one who fix the internet when you dont have it anymore...

[jade briar]

It wouldn't work that well. Car headlights are more or less focused beams, not emissive planes. Plus, it would make the headlight objects look like the sun just exploded.

[ember cobalt]

interesting

i keep forgetting, are geometry hashes stable in this game?

[jade briar]

Fix mine pls. My shitternet is really bad.

[cloud crypt]

🤣 ❌

[jade briar]

More stable than my bank account

[ember cobalt]

doesn't say much 😛

[jade briar]

Well. More stable than the

Uhh

I've run out of jokes

It's completely stable. 0 flickering

[trail quail]

oh yeah i know its not gonna work that well but i was just messing about decided to try it and i decided to share findings

[ember cobalt]

nice

i wonder how stable emissives are in general then

the other games i've tested are all unstable, and emissives ghost horribly

[jade briar]

Emmisive objects, or add lights to texture?

[ember cobalt]

emissive objects

or emissive materials?

[jade briar]

The world objects with emmisive materials are very stable.

[cloud crypt]

you mean like the Plaza with the neon lights?

[jade briar]

That, and all the other glowy bits. Like billboards and such.

[cloud crypt]

ah ok, yeah, they are stable. And I couldnt find ghosting at 100fps+ om performance, but at low fps its a bit visible when playing without dls or quality mode (about 60 to 70)

[tawny elk]

Did we try setting the culling textures to things like light poles and such?

[cloud crypt]

how set set culling textures lol?

[tawny elk]

It’s under the category options when you classify them

[cloud crypt]

ah ok

[trail quail]

ok i was able to find a way to record this

[tawny elk]

It got too toasty for me to continue testing.

[cloud crypt]

why xD. I mean lights dont get culled, but why we need more?

[tawny elk]

I think it’s a problem with using an emissive texture and having it move rapidly.

Not enough time for light to accumulate

[jade briar]

Nothing.

[trail quail]

but then how come when i spam look back it works better?

[cloud crypt]

A bigger problem than culling now is the popping in of custom lights...

[tawny elk]

https://tenor.com/view/interstellar-crying-gif-25949281

[tawny elk]

Cause of how path tracing works.

[tawny elk]

Did you enable the anti cull feature? The one that isn’t the lights?

[cloud crypt]

thats not the problem. Mipmapping still is. Because i have to select a mesh. The mesh gets mipmapped ingame when too far away but still in sight

[tawny elk]

Rip my computer.

[trail quail]

ok it seems im need to read up more on pt then. thanks

[tawny elk]

Oh, doesn’t the GPU handle that? As in when to use mips?

[tawny elk]

Emissive aren’t good at projecting light since they just kinda radiate light. You need to use a light source for headlights to work properly.

[cloud crypt]

not comepletly. Its game defined. Drawdistance has to be higher

[jade briar]

Lights are just a part of the problem. Watch this.
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1103377328530276403/1113392493355089970/SPEED2_idG460UUhs.mp4

[cloud crypt]

emissives get culled really agressively

[tawny elk]

That’s why I was asking about the anti culling texture setup

[surreal ruin]

Lumen flashbacks

[tawny elk]

I mean the forward draw distance is super easy to make massive.

[cloud crypt]

but how did you get them that bright??

[jade briar]

This is because when looking at the back of the car, the headlight object is culled. When you look back, the headlight object is rendered again, and so is the light that's attached to it. When you straighten out the camera again, the headlight object is hidden again, but light anti culling freezes in the last known position. That's why you get floating lights. And that's why Adam's job isn't done yet.

[tawny elk]

https://tenor.com/view/tired-office-cubicle-bob-parr-the-incredibles-gif-7767100

[trail quail]

thank you for the explanation 👍

[mossy pelican]

what specs

[ember cobalt]

you can adjust the intensity and exposure in omniverse

[jade briar]

All meshes do. That raises another problem where the back of the car doesn't reflect any of the environment. Because there's nothing back there to reflect

[cloud crypt]

makes sense

[tawny elk]

Doesn’t matter, it’s just way too gd hot to be dumping heat into the space.

[mossy pelican]

i was just curious

[tawny elk]

Did the HD reflections plugin help at all?

[jade briar]

Quite literally open the window. Do you live in a desert or something.

[cloud crypt]

it does nothing

[tawny elk]

Big open vertical space. My desk is in a loft that’s basically under the roof.

[jade briar]

Nope. It most likely targets the reflection cubemap post of the renderer

[cloud crypt]

but hd reflection does make the draw distance bigger i think

[tawny elk]

https://tenor.com/view/rick-and-morty-rick-sad-sitting-lonely-gif-25485281

That it do

[jade briar]

Ac

[tawny elk]

Forward draw distance I think.

[tawny elk]

Got it blasting.

[cloud crypt]

thats what i meant

[jade briar]

Huh. Strange. I guess clen the filters?

[tawny elk]

Nah, it’s just undersized. The weird house I’m in has this fatal flaw of cooling.

[cloud crypt]

whats your emissive power?

[tawny elk]

But it does get a lot of sunlight into the space, so I like to think of it as an RTX house with all the bounced lighting.

[severe solstice]

[jade briar]

Forgor 💀

[cloud crypt]

how, just how can that look clean af when setting the taillights as world space ui?

[jade briar]

Just look at the rtx.conf in my mod

[jade briar]

Because worldspace ui causes the specific object to be displayed as how the game rasterizes it.

[cloud crypt]

ok, could it maybe fix headlights?

[jade briar]

It'd fix their look, but won't make them shine light on anything.

[tawny elk]

I wonder if I can get some insight by using the zmenu to set values

[jade briar]

Dunno

[tawny elk]

That’s the one with all the camera setting right?

[cloud crypt]

clean looking since setting sprites as sky textures (custom lights will still work when doing it)

[jade briar]

Yes.

[jade briar]

Ignore texture all the damn sprites. They look awful.

[cloud crypt]

if i do that, the custom lights will disappear too. Only setting them as sky textures do help

[tawny elk]

https://zolika1351.pages.dev/mods/nfsu2menu

Disable world culling
I hope y’all tried this already.

[jade briar]

You think I didn't?

[tawny elk]

What does it do compared to our intentions?

[jade briar]

It disables culling for far away objects. Not frustrum culling

[tawny elk]

That game doesn’t even have back face culling to begin with tho

[cloud crypt]

even setting them to sky make them go dark

thats when set as nothing

[tawny elk]

[cloud crypt]

but seems to be not the case for every sprite. Some other still work this way

for example

Looking clean without these awefull sprites or what do you think?

[jade briar]

Better

The bloom is already there so no need for these sprites.

[cloud crypt]

yeah, but i have to figure out on how to get it working for these

[jade briar]

Just find the sprite, and set it to ignore.

[cloud crypt]

then this happens

[jade briar]

Then find the bulb texture, and mark it as a light. I think over here, the sprite is marked.

[cloud crypt]

i will search in ov

[jade briar]

Well, if you want to add a custom light to it, then sure.

[cloud crypt]

plenty of custom lights xD

[mossy pelican]

lovely

[cloud crypt]

got it. i added a emissive property to the mat of this mesh and now it works how it should

[tawny elk]

What if we put out like a mod bounty for the removal of culling?

I’ll pitch in $50 👀

[median current]

better yea

[cloud crypt]

Video is rendering

[vague sparrow]

Need that reverse engineering guy that did UG2 decompile

[cloud crypt]

https://youtu.be/l26g9nqaAco

[tawny elk]

Nah he’s not interested i don’t think

[vague sparrow]

All fun and games until you're tasked to investigate game logic

I think culling is hardcoded in the game engine, the only thing we can do is increase or decrease it

[celest magnet]

Don't really have a clue on half of what is being said in this channel lool, but I'm just here to say you're renders so far look insane guys. Keep up the good work 🙌

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZFxGx5xMZc&t=63s

One of the best mods for UG2 I've seen online (his Tokyo Nights mod looks insane too) - thought I'd share as I saw others mention getting stuff from other modders, probably not useful but hey.. Looks dope either way haha 😆

[spark moon]

thanks... i am not using sphere light... can u check on these #general-remix message

[spark moon]

if you select its as terrain goes black so lot of texture can be used as dynamic decal or if its flat just decal...remix dllss and denoise takes away details was trying can show by selecting it...it will not give u any problem....still u can remove it

[thorny pawn]

i'm not sure how smart it is to tag e.g. the road as decals,

decals are supposed to be thin geometry (planes) on top of other geometry, it might give you the right look right now, but it's likely this might cause issues later, i try to only tag things in categories i 100% know they belong to, (like obvious UI textures being tagged as such)

thats the safest approach, not sure if it's the best/most reasonable one

[spark moon]

i have seen in this server for a game dont remember selecting textures as dynamic decal or decal worked

still we all learning

[thorny pawn]

don't worry i'm not throwing any shade, just trying to figure out as well whats the best way to do it 🙂

[halcyon ether]

wasn't there progress on the reflections in the car paint?
or are you actually using mat paint? :p

[spark moon]

non taken...totally understand 🙂

[spark moon]

your lighting rocks still u missing lots of lights

[cloud crypt]

Yeah i know that😅

[jade briar]

Patience is running thin out here boys

[modest obsidian]

Reading is hard. I love it when there are comments like "what game is this?" when the title is only the game name

[jade briar]

My hands are tired from typing "read description" under every single comment that asks the same questions that have been answered in the description faq.

[vague sparrow]

don't answer them

you're not responsible for people with one braincell

https://tenor.com/view/brain-brain-cells-cells-sending-gif-20591754

[spark moon]

https://tenor.com/view/lmfao-laughing-gif-25145562

[thorny pawn]

Guess that's why they always, show it on screen during game trailers "IN DEVELOPMENT FOOTAGE DOES NOT REPRESENT"

[jade briar]

Oh shit yeah. I should do that.

[spark moon]

guess u dont use much yt no matter how better u do there always will be complains as wella s praise

[jade briar]

Yeah I know.

[cloud crypt]

I will do it too then😅🤣

[jade briar]

Also why tf are your lights still white

[cloud crypt]

Because😅

As i said i will first place them, and after that i adjust them

[jade briar]

Oh

Hmm

Yeah that makes sense

Also

I think you should check out nfs 2015

I like the style of that game

[cloud crypt]

Me too, played a lot

[jade briar]

Yeah

Never played it. I kinda gave up on nfs a long time ago. Now I mostly play simracing.

[trail quail]

you didnt miss out much after 2015

[jade briar]

Yeah

I tried heat

It's cancer

Tho I had fun with payback

[vague sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/steve-carrell-the-office-michael-scott-coldsore-cancer-gif-12214631

[trail quail]

i enjoyed heat it wasnt the worst. payback was really forgetable for me. unbound is just a mess in isngleplayer and an even bigger mess online

[jade briar]

I didn't try unbound. Heat may be nice, but I don't like how modern nfs feels. The brake = drift thing really kills it for me.

That's why I play simracing. Feels a lot more real.

[vague sparrow]

ok.

[trail quail]

unbound solved the brake to drift, grip is faster on average

well yeah its kinda in the name xd

[surreal ruin]

I refunded Unbound because the drifting felt so shit

I hate it when racing games are like "PRESS X BUTTON TO DRIFT"

It's like naw mate, let me do that myself thank you

[trail quail]

yeah drifting wasnt as easy but it was alot more satisfying (for me atleast) when you got it right compared to the previous games

[cloud crypt]

You just could have tuned it off mate

[trail pecan]

nfs 2015 top g on god no cap fr

[surreal ruin]

Eeeh I wasn't really enjoying the game regardless

I spent more time running away from police than doing actual racing

Kinda just went back to Assetto and Horizon 5 instead

[jade briar]

Play simracing. The most infuriating thing to learn, but once you understand it, it's very fun.

[trail pecan]

I don't like forza horizon 5 I couldn't figure out how to start a race

[jade briar]

💀

[trail pecan]

I only managed to play that one battle royale mode

[jade briar]

💀💀

[trail pecan]

but on the map only thing I could find was like championships and I literally didn't have the required cars to enter them

so I kinda gave up after that

[jade briar]

Bruh

[trail pecan]

also I didn't really like the graphics it looks way too generic and it honestly sucked

[vague sparrow]

||holding urge to desperately shout out skill issue||

[trail pecan]

honestly maybe since I couldn't even start a race

I repeated like the same 3 dirt race events the game makes you do at the begining

[surreal ruin]

Yeh that's what Assetto is for ^^

[jade briar]

Yep.

Too bad my wheel isn't that good for drifting.

[surreal ruin]

Hah that's honestly all I really care about

You put me on a big official race track in some super car and I'll be asleep in seconds

Put me in an old japanese shitbox on a cruddy mountain road? NOW we're talkin'

[trail pecan]

dude I love assetto corsa

[vague sparrow]

you forgot one essential thing

Eurobeat

[surreal ruin]

I could never forget Eurobeat! I MAKE Eurobeat!

And I do art for a bunch of Eurobeat artists

[trail pecan]

try something like tcr cars they are fun

[surreal ruin]

Yay!

[vague sparrow]

ok.

[jade briar]

Since my wheel is not powerful enough to spin the opposite direction fast enough, I've just started taking interest in sim racing instead. Joining online events and shit. It's a lot fun when you're in a hour long race with max damage and tyre wear. Really makes you think.

[vague sparrow]

bro just drive mehran on a bad day, iykyk

https://tenor.com/view/xqc-despair-xqcdespair-voidge-troll-gif-24691555

[jade briar]

There's a Islamabad - Murree mod for assetto. Graphics on it are really bad, but it is fun when you play it night time with some friends online.

[vague sparrow]

lol

[tawny elk]

I think sim racing online is one of the best forms of online competition. I don't know of any other sort of competitive match that lasts as long and can be that physically intense.

[jade kayak]

It's funny, I never liked sim racing on asphalt because it's not fun enough for me to bother mastering it, but I've played the shit out of Dirt Rally 1 and 2 which are just as simmy

[trail pecan]

bro is going to lose his mind when he learns about tarmac rally

[jade kayak]

Yeah, my least favorite part

[jade briar]

My shoulders hurt when I play it.

[chrome meadow]

Guess the like is yours 😆

[cerulean summit]

upressed the sky textures. I cant for the life of me figure out how to implement them

if anyone wants to give it a go, I'll send over the full image files

[spark moon]

https://tenor.com/view/raindrops-gif-9103727

[safe patrol]

does it switch between those in different zones of the city?

[cerulean summit]

it should

[safe patrol]

funny that in all my playing of vanilla I don't think I ever realized it had more than one skybox

[cerulean summit]

there are a few other textures as well, but until I get those working idk how important they are

[jade briar]

The night one is kinda muddy, ngl.

[jade briar]

It switches between the two randomly.

[ember cobalt]

compression is not eliminated

[ember cobalt]

what model did you use?

[jade briar]

IT's not even compressed. It's just really tiny. Not much to work from.

The topaz upscler is pretty good. Try that.

[ember cobalt]

there's better ESRGAN models

[cerulean summit]

Stable diffusion Dreamshaper

[ember cobalt]

and i see some clear artifacts on it that look like compression

[jade briar]

4x exrgan isn't that great. I tried it.

[ember cobalt]

yeah. i'd upscale it first with an ESRGAN model before doing that

[cerulean summit]

I think that might be discord

[ember cobalt]

there's custom ESRGAN models

https://openmodeldb.info/

a whole database of custom models

all of the admins in this server come from a community that focuses on training these

[jade briar]

I tried a bunch of the esrgan models that come with sd, and a custom one. Not much.

[ember cobalt]

the ones that come with SD are just official models, and they're not great

[jade briar]

Also this could help

https://skybox.blockadelabs.com/

[cerulean summit]

Tbh, even if it's a bit blurry, it's better than the heavy pixelation from the low res nearest neighbour scaling the game uses rn

[ember cobalt]

@cerulean summit can you send the original skybox textures?

i have a model in mind for them

[cerulean summit]

That won't work. I can't figure out how to get it to use 360 images, else I'd use a hdri, so I've resorted to upscaling/remaking what's already there

[cerulean summit]

I'm making dinner rn but I'll get on it

[jade briar]

Here's something I got with esrgan. An attempt was made.

[ember cobalt]

looks like real-esrgan

[jade briar]

I think so, yeah.

[ember cobalt]

yeah, that's a terrible model for games

at least imo

[cerulean summit]

There's not enough data in the images to work from. That's why ive been using generative AI

[jade briar]

Tho sd img-img works a lot better.

[ember cobalt]

more complex models can handle it. i've worked on plenty of games with similar skyboxes

[jade briar]

And this.

[ember cobalt]

that one's pretty good

[jade briar]

Basic sd 1.4 img-img.

[cerulean summit]

Make sure it's set to tile

[jade briar]

Here's the default skybox, if you want to try it yourself.

It's tiny.

[ember cobalt]

if you guys want some basic models to try for upscaling:
ultrasharp
realisticrescaler
swinir-l
remacri

[jade briar]

I'll wait for you to try. Partly because you have experience with it, and mainly because I'm lazy.

[ember cobalt]

lol

[cerulean summit]

those are the full textures

if you can do better then go for it. I'm gunna be busy for a bit anyway

[ember cobalt]

about the best i could get with a quick try

usually i'd do some manual work to it too

[ember cobalt]

in this case, this definitely looks better

[jade briar]

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm. It's one of the upscaled images of all time.

[ember cobalt]

like you said, low base resolution

but there's not many artifacts at least

[jade briar]

yeah. We're basically giving the machine lord nothing to work with here.

[cerulean summit]

My main concern is actually getting it implemented, then we can worry about what looks best

[jade briar]

I think I have an idea.

[ember cobalt]

personally i tend to upscale with these models, then put it through img2img

it yields more consistent results for me

[cerulean summit]

Fair. I prefer using more noise rather than all the detail the upscale generates. Allows more varied options when changing the seed.

Neither method is wrong, just preference

[vague sparrow]

time for me to 0pskael

[tiny nimbus]

What do you guys think about the UE5 remaster project?

[tawny elk]

[tiny nimbus]

wasted potential

[jade briar]

It's pretty good.

I like it.

[trail quail]

Uncle burrito

hi

[tiny nimbus]

Yeah I guess any remaster is cool

[trail quail]

I love your project

[tiny nimbus]

should maybe be like a seperate option

like classic and remastered

[jade briar]

wha

[tawny elk]

[tiny nimbus]

no funni rtx smh my head fr

[jade briar]

It will. They're working on implementing the gameplay right now.

[thorny pawn]

i've got a first try on upscaling or rather img2img idk what u guys thinkg about this and what resolution we're targeting

i'mma try to go completely overboard with resolution and then downsample

if my gpu can handle that lul

[trail quail]

Why not textures from the 2015 NFS reboot? I feel like that could work well

[dark spoke]

p sure that's called asset theft

[thorny pawn]

7s per iteration 💀

[trail quail]

Well its a mod so does it matter?

[dark spoke]

yes intellectual property violations are intellectual property violations regardless if it's for a mod or not

it's like shooting a guy and shooting a guy because he's robbing a store, doesn't matter the intention you're going to prison for manslaughter anyway

lol

[trail quail]

🤓 ☝️

[thorny pawn]

i mean they're right tho

also please be nice :c

[dark spoke]

it's wise to not fuck around with companies and their IPs lately because everyone is feeling litigious lately

IW4X got shut down by activision, Nintendo is blocking the Steam release of Dolphin, etc

and EA isn't legendarily known for being the best company ever

so authoring assets from scratch is the way to go imo

[trail quail]

Yeah I'm just playing. EA seems more leniant towards modding but it's probably best not to come near them then

[thorny pawn]

i mean Nintendo is it's own thing.... they state that emulation is legal while selling emulation

[dark spoke]

EA doesn't mind you modding their games, no problem there

however if you steal their assets from one game for another? ehhh it gets dicey

[thorny pawn]

funny seems like they removed the "emulation is illegal and bad >:c" part of their TOS

[jade briar]

I'd do that if this thing didn't get as much attention as it end up getting.

Now I gotta do things the proper way

[dark spoke]

lol yeah

[jade briar]

Dicey

[jade briar]

uhhh huuuhhhh

[trail quail]

Hehe

DICEy

[dark spoke]

i mean it is the correct word for the situation

[cloud crypt]

@spark moon how can that be, i have more followers but the algorithm likes your vids more🤣👍

[dark spoke]

probably because of the intro lol

nobody wants to watch your intro everyone wants to see the gameplay

[jade briar]

intros are 2005

[dark spoke]

intros are for like... 2012 minecraft videos, that stuff just does not work in 2023 lol

[cloud crypt]

D a m n XD

[hardy chasm]

Hmm it should only works for sphere and rect lights, would you like to share your setup?

[cloud crypt]

I use sphere, cylinder and disk lights🤷‍♂️ works well

[thorny pawn]

https://imgsli.com/MTgzMjc2

working on another attempt, not quite happy

[thorny pawn]

ok nvm i think this is best i can do for now

[cloud crypt]

Why not using the upscaler from Topaz?

[thorny pawn]

don't have it :c if anyone does feel free to try

[cloud crypt]

I use it a lot

Taken with S23 Ultra and upscaled with Topaz

[ember cobalt]

Topaz's image upscaler falls behind a lot of free options

it's better in some instances for sure though

[thorny pawn]

the craters look kinda glitchy

when you 100% zoom

[ember cobalt]

yeah, there's a lot of artifacts there unfortunately

[cloud crypt]

Thats how a picture from the moon normally looks

[ember cobalt]

no way you used that as the base for the topaz upscale though

[cloud crypt]

No i did not

I only wanted to show how it normally would look like

How blurry etc

[hardy chasm]

Ok that will be a concern for me, b/c looks like it walks around code (cylinder and disk) that hasn't been implemented

[jade briar]

They wanted to be with their friends. That's why they made their way in.

[spark moon]

Subscribers dont matter lot of ppl dont evn sub and still watch ur content...

[cloud crypt]

Thats not what he meant xD

[spark moon]

lol that my ssytem spec?

[cloud crypt]

No, your anti cull setup and maybe ov setup

[thorny pawn]

ye i thought omniverse too

[spark moon]

i dont even use omni verse

[cloud crypt]

So you just selected textures as lights right?

Then they are sphere lights

[thorny pawn]

those are not "lights" they are just emissive textures

lights are separate entities and they have different types like sphere, cylinder disk etc., and you have to configure them through omniverse or usda

[cobalt peak]

Did you upload dat no culling preset

[jade briar]

Just

Turn on anti light culling

[cobalt peak]

Oh there do be a new RTX Remix yes

Very yes

[cloud crypt]

With the new dxvk remix yes

[cobalt peak]

How do I become a remixer tho

I want to program a program even better than RTX remix

Something that could even turn Sims 1 photorealistic

[thorny pawn]

play two songs at same time and change volume slider rapidly

[cobalt peak]

Alright ty

[cloud crypt]

XD

[tawny elk]

> Sims
I can never escape

[spark moon]

https://tenor.com/view/ok-sticker-okay-sticker-line-sticker-raccoon-sticker-raccoon-gif-26486929

[cobalt peak]

wadaaaaaa

Does RTX remix update automatically bc I dont find anti light culling in my menu

[jade briar]

You have to update it

[cloud crypt]

No it doesnt

[jade briar]

https://github.com/NVIDIAGameWorks/dxvk-remix/actions/workflows/build.yml

[cloud crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-smile-best-laugh-thats-funny-gif-8282901

[safe patrol]

What's the proper Meters per Unit for Omniverse with NFS2?

[jade briar]

dunno

[cloud crypt]

I have an idea, there is a mod that changes the loading screen into a animated one. And the Video is taken from Fake Trailer from Odenato Cinematics. Why we dont implement it in our Remix mod?

https://nfsmods.xyz/mod/4702

[tawny elk]

0.01 I think?

[jade briar]

That. Would be false advertising.

[safe patrol]

Thanks I'll try that. I was playing around with materials and they're definitely not scaled properly by default

[cloud crypt]

I also could create my own one by replacing the picures and using ingame capture

When ready

[jade briar]

It'd be better if someone redoes the same one.

[cloud crypt]

Thats hard to do

[jade briar]

So is life.

[safe patrol]

Pretty sure it's not .01. These are some enormous metallic flakes.

This is 1 Meter per unit. Fixes the main body paint job but for some reason the carbon fiber is still way out of scale.

Maybe that material is bugged or something because it doesn't seem to change no matter what scale I use.

[cloud crypt]

Its hard to do, but works. I already got it working for a short time. But dont know how anymore because i wanted Burrito to do it

And he figured out that currently changing the material makes no sence

[cobalt peak]

Now that light culling is gone, someone should fix the skybox by upscaling all of the skyboxes 🙂

[tawny elk]

Scroll up

[cobalt peak]

I know Burrito already did, but he doesn't know how to implement them yet.

[safe patrol]

They've been talking about it for the last few hours

[cobalt peak]

Oh damn

[tawny elk]

Is that a mod?

[cobalt peak]

The skybox should be as realistic as this picture of myself

[tawny elk]

I can guarantee it is not 1m/game unit. With that, cars come out as 3cm long.

[cloud crypt]

Yikes xD

[thorny pawn]

how about this one

[spark moon]

https://tenor.com/view/trolls-thunder-cloud-rain-cloud-cloud-gif-18520208

[safe patrol]

yeah I think the material scaling is just plain wrong in most cases. Some of the materials don't seem to scale at all and many others just seem to be at the wrong scale

[cobalt peak]

Very nice =9

[thorny pawn]

p.s. it's absolutely crazy how good photopea has become, it can basically do 99% of what photoshop could do a week ago with the same shortcuts

a week ago because photoshop added generative fill

if someone has photoshop you could also try using generative fill to recreate the sky piece by piece

[pearl pike]

Hello guys, i'll love to test RTX remix on NFSU2, but idk where to start, where can i start looking?

[safe patrol]

pinned messages

[pearl pike]

Thanks, i'll take a look C:

[jade briar]

So Adam.

Have you found the culling yet?.

[tawny elk]

Culling

[jade briar]

Ya know it

[tawny elk]

Not yet, I need to wrinkles up my brain some more. It was getting too smooth to progress further.

[jade briar]

okay

I'll wait.

[severe solstice]

[plain stag]

something like that i work on entire NFS U2 map but for assetto corsa and with text editor not with realtime editing 😄 but good luck ,,, i can maybe help to 🙂

[jade briar]

what the hell

[cloud crypt]

Exactly what i thaught

[plain stag]

😄 😄

[chrome meadow]

For a week it straight refused to show them on TV, even searching the title word for word was resulting in anything excluding his videos

[jade briar]

I dunno. Can you make pbr textures?

[plain stag]

i can.

[jade briar]

Now get to work

jk

idk if you wanna, then sure.

[spark moon]

Any one know about the issue after minimizing or alt tab crashes game

[jade briar]

Not for me

[spark moon]

happening in different game

[trail pecan]

happened to me too run it in borderless fullscreen

[spark moon]

So how did u fixed it

and which agme

[trail pecan]

I ran it in borderless fullscreen instead of fullscreen

nfsu2

if it doesn't have a borderless option run it in windowed mode and use something like borderless gaming

[spark moon]

am using wrapper still thanks for the confirmation

[plain stag]

I Have some PBR textures precreated for Aseetto corsa mod maybe They can use

[jade briar]

precreated

Yeah sure. Show me.

[plain stag]

Tomorow i must go sleep .. 0:10 us time

[jade briar]

[tawny elk]

[trail pecan]

tucks you in bed and whispers sleep well

[cloud crypt]

dont have that

he saw my Video and the first thing he has in mind was this question??

[tawny elk]

Intel Hd 580

[trail pecan]

maybe idk ask him maybe it wasn't his first question

[jade briar]

I don't see what's wrong with that

[cloud crypt]

If i use RTX Remix it should be clear i use a RTX card... There is no need to ask XD

[trail pecan]

there are many rtx cards and amd cards that can run rtx I think

[cloud crypt]

amd only the new ones

[spark moon]

https://tenor.com/view/rtx-3090-graphics-card-gaming-gif-26085366

tell him like this

[tawny elk]

Bro what Windows Update you on? 👀

[cloud crypt]

Why asking?

[jade briar]

There's like a bunch of rtx cards. Man was trynna find out what you're working with

[spark moon]

i fixed it thanks to @trail pecan

[trail pecan]

yw

[cloud crypt]

i know. I gave him a civilized anwser: RTX 4070 Ti

[ember cobalt]

and not all of them are really capable of it

imo it's a very fair question

[jade briar]

Yes

[jade briar]

Good. Considering how unhinged your replies can get.

[cloud crypt]

ah, you talking about this specific anwser xD

[tawny elk]

Sorry I let my cat use the computer, I won’t let him comment again.

[jade briar]

Talking about this

#1103377328530276403 message

[cloud crypt]

Thats harmless

[tawny elk]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-crazy-were-not-talking-about-this-inconsistent-gif-25365554

[jade briar]

Yes. Everything on the internet is

[cloud crypt]

this is better xD

[jade briar]

Gah damn

Chill

[jade briar]

Don't talk about cats. You're making me sad

[trail pecan]

damn gurlll go tell em 💅

[jade briar]

Slayyy

[cloud crypt]

i like this comment xD

@jade briar say something...

[jade briar]

Uhh

Penis

[cloud crypt]

these Videos over 120K views

[jade briar]

Almost 130 now

[cloud crypt]

Dang

[tawny elk]

Can you ask them if any of them are reverse engineers?

[jade briar]

I know one, so I don't need any others.

His name is Adam.

[tawny elk]

[cloud crypt]

well, he is true on that

[tawny elk]

I poked the various nfs discords for help

[tawny elk]

They said go to a reverse engineering discord and I feel kinda silly not doing that first

[jade briar]

bruh.

[tawny elk]

Yea

My bad

[jade briar]

Hey @tawny elk

[tawny elk]

Does the problem still persist when using freecam?

[jade briar]

yes. But it seems like, at very huge fov, the culling behaves a little odd.

[lime tulip]

Hello, I came from the video Need For Speed: Underground 2 RTX Remix WIP2 where to download the game

[elfin beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/roblox-mfs-me-like-roblox-meme-gif-26278485

[finite flint]

am i supposed to grab the game from somewhere before downloading the files in pinned?

[vague sparrow]

brother asked a very good question

the game should be ||bought through digital retailers||

[finite flint]

okay thank you.

[vague sparrow]

I hope that answers your question

[finite flint]

it does thank you dwight. im new to this and im not really sure what im doing haha

[jade kayak]

But basically it doesn't have to be a specific version, can be a US or EU version from any source you might have

[valid geyser]

how do you buy a game digitally that never had a digital release

[vague sparrow]

if you can't find it online then just take the easy route

💀

idk, you're only benefiting the retailer and not EA/game devs

[umbral forum]

Abandonware.

[finite flint]

apparently my gpu is too old lol

[jade briar]

What gpu do you habe?

[finite flint]

1650 super I believe

[jade briar]

Yep. Should've known.

[finite flint]

It was worth a shot 😅

[elfin beacon]

lol

[trail quail]

Dwight is here omg

[vague sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-dwight-schrute-second-gif-25779746

[cloud crypt]

new sky for UG2? reworked it a bit

whats this 😭😂

its dlss, its broken

Love it

[cloud crypt]

without custom tonemapping

with custom tonemap

[late sable]

I have almost zero xp in modding, codding, gamedev and whatever other magic you guys perform here (which for real make me speacheless)
But i have several ideas/questions about remaster(?)
Is it possible to fill up the map with misc like trashcans, cones and whatnot to make it more dense?
I thought about making textures of building more volumetric and bulgy, because in vanila its basicly flat boxes.
And also roads, with updated textures it looks fantasic, but there is still some edginess to it on the turns so it looks rectangular
am i an idiot to assume that its possible to pull of?

[tawny elk]

In the future there will be proper tooling to allow for mesh work. Not very easy to do now, so no one is doing that.

[tawny elk]

The sharp edges in turns is just from how the original meshes are. Nothing can be done about that right now.

[late sable]

Oh i see now! Thank you for anser, now i know a bit more 🙂

[cloud crypt]

But what we can say is, that we are working on PBR Textures and new lighting to give the game a bit more deepness.
Meshes will be done, as said by adam, when we have the proper tools.
Everything else is up to the future

[vague sparrow]

Sometimes I wish we could add POM to textures if it was possible

High quality assets will reduce performance for most people except the 4090 folks

or the higher end 40 series

Micromesh engine is legit nanite like

[cloud crypt]

PBR Textures dont need much performance, the 3060TI could still run this mod

[spark moon]

high quality textures with compression also do i think

[tawny elk]

Honestly, out of all the remix mods I’ve used, U2 runs really well.

[vague sparrow]

One thing missing is displacement mapping or tessellation, I don't think tessellation will work with path tracing because it's a rasterized shader

[cloud crypt]

U2 is probably the best game to show what Remix is capable of because of the lighting etc

atleast in my oppinion

[tawny elk]

I need to complete my lighting overhaul for it

[cloud crypt]

you mean i need to do it, because i work on lighting lol

[vague sparrow]

No IES, how are we going to manipulate the cone shape of light sources

[cloud crypt]

or you mean your culling work xD

[tawny elk]

We both can work on lighting silly. Give the people some choices in lighting

[cloud crypt]

well, in OV we can atleast edit the cone angle and the angle of falling direction

[tawny elk]

Bout ready to find someone on fivver to figure it out.

[tawny elk]

We beg Mark to have the rendering team implement it.

Ez

[cloud crypt]

well, If mark is willing to do it xD

[vague sparrow]

Mark can spread the word among it's colleagues

[tawny elk]

You can modify them a bit with the current shaping but it constantly breaks in the remix engine.

The focus shaping is all wonky and ends up putting a hole in the middle.

[vague sparrow]

Someone on guru.com might be your last resort

[cloud crypt]

focus doesnt even work for me lol, and you could edit the color of the focus

[cloud crypt]

the shaping doesnt break for me, where do you have the error?

[jade briar]

I think I'll wait till the post processing part has more to offer before getting into it.

[cloud crypt]

yeah probably. there arent many options

[vague sparrow]

Does ug2 have some sort of old 2000s yellow-purple filter on it, or was it the light glow

[tawny elk]

It has a contrast filter

[cloud crypt]

it has some sort of yellow tinting, yes

but you can toggle the tinting in the options

[vague sparrow]

🅱️ontrast it is

how in the world are we going to replicate the metallic paint surface of cars, it is hard to explain what it looks like though

Need that 1:1 remaster

[tawny elk]

Y’all wanna toss some money into the bounty for this mod?

[vague sparrow]

I bought a clock so....no can do

[jade briar]

No the piss filter wasn't introduced in nfs until most wanted.

[tawny elk]

It’s probably going to be a pain

[cloud crypt]

i can look into that, but its hard. Burrito also stated that when you change the color its rng which color you get

[jade briar]

I really hope the remix tool allows at least 10 people to work on the same file.

Make tool for modders who do most of their work in their free time, while earning little to no money
Ask six thousand dollars per month

[vague sparrow]

Yeah we need to figure out how paint works in this game, I don't think it gets hashed, or does it

How can we store it as hash is more important

[tawny elk]

I still think hooking function that sets the car paint to update a mod usda would be be best.

[tawny elk]

It’s a texture hash

[tawny elk]

Commercial money hits different than us plebs.

[jade briar]

I think the problem is that the game differenciates materials based on texture hash. The game bakes a new texture every time you dare touching car customization. Remix freaks out.

[vague sparrow]

Lmao, the car body modifications are also pretty modular, each customizable part will have it's own hash

[cloud crypt]

could or could not be

[jade briar]

I customized my car twice after I saved the mod.usda, now remix randomly chooses one of the two while loading the game.

[vague sparrow]

if we just go down the normal car mods, they have a upper limit of 20k polygons ; which is bad 😔

so remix replacements are our only chance

[cloud crypt]

example is the skyline mod by archie. He mentioned that 20K is absolute maximum. Higher and the game crashes

[vague sparrow]

not a lot for 2024 standards

[cloud crypt]

yeah

[surreal ruin]

That shouldn't be a problem if the mesh is replaced through remix instead of the base game though yeah?

[cloud crypt]

thats only possible when we have the toolkit for that

[surreal ruin]

Yeah nawh for sure!

Fo'sho fo'sho

[vague sparrow]

we need modelers now lol

Ig we could get in trouble using nfs heat assets

[surreal ruin]

I've been working on a super accurate Trueno for a while

Although it's nowhere near ready to be used, and it is the JDM version, not the GT-S that U2 uses

[vague sparrow]

Hmm

[cloud crypt]

that would be awesome if we would have the proper version

[surreal ruin]

Hah yeah let's be real

Who the fuck wants a GT-S over a trueno X)

[cloud crypt]

corrext xD

[jade briar]

Dunno

Probably not me

[vague sparrow]

ngl if you guys leave out those traffic cars (<1k poly models lol), I will be very disappointed

[cloud crypt]

you know the performance cost do you?

[vague sparrow]

But muh rimastr

🥺

[cloud crypt]

If we do that, you probably would neet a 4090 xD
just joking. I think 20K shouldnt be a problem for traffic

[jade briar]

I mean

Anything could be better than the current traffic vehicles

[surreal ruin]

Honestly it's less about the performance and more about the sheer amount of time modelling cars takes

That shit ain't a nothingburger

[jade briar]

The originals are just cancer to look at.

[jade briar]

💯

[cloud crypt]

maybe the tool we get in future is able to auto generate polygons. Its just a dream...

[jade briar]

For me, I don't mind the way the cars currently look. The game is mostly dark. You could make a normal map for rain drops, but that's about it.

[cloud crypt]

a long time ago i made a custom rain texture. Maybe i can find it

[jade briar]

Because I've got no idea how I'd make a realistic enough paint material with the extremely restrictive material that remix allows. Literally 4 textures. And that's it.

[tawny elk]

I think ChatGPT has come up with some ideas to try with how to modify the code.

[gritty crest]

Hey. Trying to get this running. I followed the pinned instructions but when trying to launch the game it runs as a background process. Has anyone seen this? If troubleshooting goes somewhere else, let me know

[tawny elk]

I always forget I can feed it whole functions

[jade briar]

You got a rtx GPU?

[gritty crest]

yeah. 3090

[jade briar]

Hmmm

I dunno. Actually.

[surreal ruin]

Does the game run for you WITHOUT the remix mod?

[jade briar]

Did you install the widescreen fix?

[surreal ruin]

This sounds like it could be a core game issue?

[gritty crest]

Yes. I made a copy of it before doing this and that one runs

[surreal ruin]

Good thinkin'! That's good to know

[jade briar]

I learnt it the hard way.

[tawny elk]

{
  // ...

  // Previously it was set to 15000.0 and some other value.
  // Now it's set to a very large value.
  MaxDistance = 1e9;

  // ...

  do {
    // ...

    // Previously the normalization factor was calculated using some constant.
    // Now we're using the MaxDistance variable to determine the normalization factor.
    __Distance = MaxDistance / SQRT(__Distance * __Distance + pfVar1[1] * pfVar1[1] + *pfVar1 * *pfVar1);

    // ...
  } while ((int)__LoopCount < 6);
  return;
}```

[gritty crest]

Yeah when trying to tun with Remix i can see the main game process and the remix bridge but they're not attached nor does the game call any resources

[jade briar]

Strange

Did you install the latest bridge?

[surreal ruin]

Yeah that's a new one

[jade briar]

I think a new bridge update might have broken it. Try downloading the oldest version in the list.

I haven't updated bridge in a while

[gritty crest]

the one i'm using is bridge-remix-4d6dc56-6-release

[jade briar]

Yeah try downgrading to the first update in the list

[vague sparrow]

1e9 is a pretty big value

Also, 50 buckar00z saved if this works

[cloud crypt]

1. Install Underground 2 Widescreenfix and set windowed mode to 4 (https://github.com/ThirteenAG/WidescreenFixesPack/releases/tag/nfsu2)
2. Install RTX Remix 0.2.0 into game-folder (https://github.com/NVIDIAGameWorks/rtx-remix/releases/tag/remix-0.2.0)
3. Install bridge-remix release into game-folder (https://github.com/NVIDIAGameWorks/bridge-remix/actions/runs/5095209923)
4. Install dxvk-remix release into trex folder (https://github.com/NVIDIAGameWorks/dxvk-remix/actions/runs/5150202285)
5. Download Rar File from Uncle burrito and only copy the rtx-remix folder, the dxvk.conf, rtx.conf and the bridge conf from trex-folder to your game-folder(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1103377328530276403/1111324832617992242/Underground_2_RTX_remix_0.1.rar)
6. Rename dinput8 to dsound

[cloud crypt]

@ember cobalt sry for the ping, but can you pin this? Because somehow burritos steps dont work

[vague sparrow]

@jade briar let's just create a GitHub guide lol....keep it more systematic here

[gritty crest]

I was using Burrito's steps

[cloud crypt]

yeah, i tried his steps, they dont work

[spring thorn]

my issue was the bridge remix, you have to download the correct one

[vague sparrow]

Burrito sucks at making tutorials

[spring thorn]

whats the name of the zip file containg the bridge files?

[tawny elk]

It makes sense. I hope it isn’t hallucinating how the function works cause it’s implementation isn’t that complicated to put into place.

[jade briar]

It is literally the most complicated and we'll thought out thing I've ever written

[cloud crypt]

just use the link from my steps, it provides you with the correct files

[spring thorn]

i know buddy, but in the section for the bridge there are many different downloads for the bridge. had to try multiple till i found the right one \

[tawny elk]

Guys can I have permission to modify the games binary ?

[cloud crypt]

you have the permission from me, that should do

[tawny elk]

It really thinks modifying that line is the key.

It came back with the same answer twice now.

It is a floating point register so I’m going to have a bit of trouble implementing it cause those never seem to work right for me.

https://tenor.com/view/pudgypenguin-hopium-penguin-gif-26360923

[vague sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/access-denied-gif-22512451

[tawny elk]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-squarepants-spongebob-finger-guns-happy-smile-gif-5137166

[jade briar]

I give you my full permission

[vague sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-dwight-schrute-rainn-wilson-dwight-fit-fed-up-gif-16523876

[gritty crest]

Tried this, not the processes won't even start. I started over from a known working copy of the game

[cloud crypt]

i forgot you have to set windowed mode to 4 in widescreen fix to work properly

Updated steps...

[cloud crypt]

Burrito, i just wanted to mention: when you delete the downloaded folder after copy everything the textures will be just plain black

[tawny elk]

I have a guides repo if y’all want me to post it in that.

[jade briar]

I WILL MAKE A VIDEO TUTORIAL.

One of these days

[tawny elk]

The 2007 era one with notepad pls

[gritty crest]

applied it. no change

[jade briar]

no promises

[vague sparrow]

with a spirit 009soundsystwm

[jade briar]

I'll keep the video mostly modern except for this
https://youtu.be/jTPdc8KHNpI

[vague sparrow]

@jade briar https://youtu.be/vEI2U6x1DVo

Do it like this

[jade briar]

Child ADHD treatment

[tawny elk]

Needs the unregistered hypercam 2 watermark.

It’s what seals the deal

[gritty crest]

Okay so I got it working now going back to Burrito's directions and Raven's links. but the ground textures dont load

got that part kinda sorted now

[cloud crypt]

as i said, if you delete the downloaded folder from buritto there are no road textures

[gritty crest]

yeah i figured that out. also i think the reason why it was giving issues before was because i had my game config set up since 2020 and the asi loader updated since then which caused issues

[cloud crypt]

ah yes, the asi loader, forget that too. It has to be named dsound instaed of dinput8

[gritty crest]

nah dinput8 still works, its just that mine was super old

[cloud crypt]

you can either rename d3d9.dll to .asi or dinput 8 to dsound. both works same way

[gritty crest]

ah

oh also i know you guys were working on the lighting culling problem and I did see that someone fixed it. is that still being worked on or is there some solution for it? since it seems like i'm running into the same thing

[cloud crypt]

well light anti culling was recently added to the dxvk remix files. But for now it only works for sphere and rect lights (yes cylinder and disk still gets culled, noticed it recently)

[gritty crest]

is thta enabled by default or is there something i have to change?

[jade briar]

You have to download the latest dxvk remix build.

[safe patrol]

When are you gonna share those purdy new lights with the rest of us? 😉

[cloud crypt]

when i placed everything needed. After that i will edit the colors of the lights. Make some of them warmer in places where it would fit to have warmer lights. This would be the next update then

[safe patrol]

I know, I'm just ribbing you. You're doing awesome work, keep it up.

[gritty crest]

I would love to contribute to this. Would need to learn more about how Remix works though

[cloud crypt]

would that be a good tutorial? XD

[chrome meadow]

You can add object but they will be ghost (car pass through) as the original game can't see them, better to mod the original game map(which is possible)

[plain stag]

YES its good 😎 simple and good

[gritty crest]

is there a way to change the intensity of specific lights in the dev console? looks like you can only change it for all of them at the same time

[cloud crypt]

only emissives or lights from textures

[median current]

so an ASI mod?

[tawny elk]

||Twas a joke||

I don’t know how to make an asi mod

Y’all gonna have to whip out a hex editor and modify it yourself.

[median current]

I think I tried once

I'd probably grab an open source mod like extra tools, strip out all their specific stuff and use it as a base to create patches

if anything just credit the authors

[thorny pawn]

i think it just has a dll main which runs on startup in which you can inject your code/patch stuff in memory

[tawny elk]

Oh I know, the reverse engineering effort here is a side thing. I don’t do programming for living.

[cloud crypt]

If anyone couldnt read from the video provided here because 1080p isnt enough, here is the Video upload in 4K
There is no need to pin this Kim

https://youtu.be/U32QaB23Mws

[vague sparrow]

Wow, thank you for your hard effort

This will definitely ease up some of our burden from the "explain how to install this" questions

@jade briar you're 2007 crappy tutorial is done fr

[tawny elk]

How do I install this on my MacBook

[cloud crypt]

Not mac compatible 😂😭

[vague sparrow]

Try Linux

[tawny elk]

Apt get remix

[vague sparrow]

Apt-get: command not found

apt get help 🫠

[thorny pawn]

you forgot sudo

sudo make me a sandwich

[vague sparrow]

its for installing packages, no?

[tawny elk]

Time to test if ChatGPT can do Reverse Engineering

[gritty crest]

depending on the distro yeah. Ubuntu/debian base use apt, Redhat/Fedora base use dnf, etc

[tawny elk]

Well the game is running horribly so maybe it did work?

[vague sparrow]

What is it rendering then lol

[tawny elk]

Dunno

It did output something when I told it to capture

[vague sparrow]

Its building blas so there's ray tracing....somewhere

[tawny elk]

You got OV open?

[vague sparrow]

Bro my PC is dead

[tawny elk]

Oh that's prob not good

[ember cobalt]

a bit funny though

[vague sparrow]

Thank you chatgpt

It rendered nothing but chopsticks 🥢

[tawny elk]

I'm now starting to think this is just the function for updating the camera's bound. Might need to find the world streaming function and mess with that

[cobalt peak]

is there a way to see my fps

i mean view how many i have

[ember cobalt]

you can enable the dxvk hud

https://raw.githubusercontent.com/NVIDIAGameWorks/dxvk-remix/main/dxvk.conf

this file by default has it on. save it and put it in your game folder

[cobalt peak]

thx

[cloud crypt]

ok, have some news on that. It really culls disk and cylinder lights... It just wasnt really noticable

[dreamy ether]

@tawny elk voice reveal?

:o

[tawny elk]

I sound generic

[cloud crypt]

🤣

[tawny elk]

https://tenor.com/view/charlie-woooo-yeah-baby-gif-24480925

The only voice reveal will be me going like this when culling is disabled completely.

[cloud crypt]

you said you wanted to edit lights too right?

[tawny elk]

I mean that's my whole goal so

[cloud crypt]

My mod usda, you dont need to start at 0

And if someone want to test some of my added lights you can use this too. Feel free to test xD. But please only use in comination with uncle burritos textures or you end up with plain black roads

[tawny elk]

[cloud crypt]

for best results also use

[safe patrol]

this sort of thing really needs a git/svn repo since currently there's no mod stacking

that would make collaboration way easier

[hushed hazel]

so i installed mod and game looks like this no skyline and very dark

[safe patrol]

it's just because there's no light on the side of the camera in that garage

if you use the rtx.conf that HellRaven just posted he's added a light to the scene here

[cloud crypt]

there should be a light from the front lol

[safe patrol]

There is in yours

[cloud crypt]

https://github.com/HellRaven-Exp/NFS-Underground-2-RTX-Remix-Project

smth like that?

[safe patrol]

perfect! Stick the rtx.conf and mod.usda in there for starters

[hushed hazel]

idk i used files from hellraven exp video

[safe patrol]

we could probably use it for updated textures too

[safe patrol]

He JUST now posted an updated version. Use that one.

[hushed hazel]

oh good

thanks

[safe patrol]

And make sure Adam and Uncle Burrito for starters have write access

[cloud crypt]

from my tutorial?

[safe patrol]

and anyone else who's actively contributing here

[cloud crypt]

i would, if they would share theyr usernames xD

[safe patrol]

ask by DM maybe?

[ember cobalt]

you guys are wearing out my pin button

[safe patrol]

I was just about to say that Kim's super on top of their pin game

[ember cobalt]

lol

[cloud crypt]

haha xD

[cloud crypt]

@hushed hazel

[safe patrol]

Right here

ninja'd

[cloud crypt]

that too

[trail quail]

why does it look like that? please help

[safe patrol]

oh my gosh people. scroll up 2 seconds and read.

[trail quail]

sorry brother, it's anxiety

[safe patrol]

It's just that someone else literally just now asked about the exact same thing

[trail quail]

I mean, do you have to paste the rtx config and mod.usda in the game directory?

[safe patrol]

rtx.conf goes in game directory. mod.usda goes in game directory\rtx-remix\mods

[trail quail]

Thanks I'll try

[safe patrol]

@ember cobalt can you pin Burrito's textures too? Otherwise we're gonna get a flood of people asking why the roads look bad.

@cloud crypt you might need to find the post for us

[cloud crypt]

he already did

[safe patrol]

oh

[ember cobalt]

i need you guys to select some specific pins to clear out

there's too many

[cloud crypt]

okay wait

these can be deleted i think

[safe patrol]

maybe if Adam adds the github repo to the relevant links post that's one less pin needed too

[ember cobalt]

hald fyll is staying 😛

but the rest are cleared

[trail quail]

now it looks worse, is there any conf?

[ember cobalt]

did you use this one?

[cloud crypt]

You also have to use the mod.usda, otherwise there are no lights lol

these 2

[hushed hazel]

that fixed lights in garage but there is like no roads for me

[ember cobalt]

also she*
i normally don't care, but i've seen a lot of people refer to me as he recently

[cloud crypt]

mod.usda has to go in rtx-remix/mods/GameReadyAssets/

[safe patrol]

I sad "they" cuz I didn't know. Thanks for clarifying.

[trail quail]

I pasted the mod.usda into the rtx remix /mod folder

[ember cobalt]

ya, i noticed. thanks

[cloud crypt]

oh sry, i did not know, but i wondered 😅 sry again

[ember cobalt]

it's okay, thank you 🙂

[tawny elk]

What is this a texture for ants?

[ember cobalt]

lol

[tawny elk]

It has no idea what this is

[trail quail]

yessss, thanks

[ember cobalt]

could it be some LOD thing?

[tawny elk]

Nah it's the traffic lights

[ember cobalt]

ah

[tawny elk]

They're just incredibly low res

[safe patrol]

I need to figure out how to add lights in omniverse so I can help with some of these dark garages...

[cloud crypt]

its traffic light

[cloud crypt]

yeah, i am adding currently. sry that it takes this long :/

and thats how it looks currently

[safe patrol]

haha, no worries, I wasn't expecting to have anything even this good for awhile. I'm just trying to figure out how I can be helpful.

By the way, it's masterpiece

[cloud crypt]

but i really dont know how to edit this readme.md to look good

[safe patrol]

That's something I can help with. It's not super important right now though, just upload the couple files that need to be shared for now.

[tawny elk]

Getting somewhere

[ember cobalt]

you can just use the website GUI

instead of CLI

[cloud crypt]

i am to dumb for it xD

[ember cobalt]

just press the pencil icon, then follow their markdown guide

it also has (had?) the typical word editor stuff for bold and all that

it makes it very easy

if it helps, this is an example of some basic formatting: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/Kim2091/helpful-scripts/main/Extract Video Frames/README.md

[cloud crypt]

way to warm. Poeple want white street lights

[tawny elk]

Nah fam

[safe patrol]

I like yellow...

[tawny elk]

Who that

[safe patrol]

white streetlights feels a bit too modern. This is based on the world of 20 years ago, after all

[ember cobalt]

i agree. might be a tinge too yellow though

[cloud crypt]

and why rect lights? sphere lights make more sense because the light spread is weird... And you can edit the cone in sphere lights

[tawny elk]

Cause that's how they are in real life

[ember cobalt]

you guys don't use disk lights?

[tawny elk]

Disk lights cull currently

[ember cobalt]

interesting

[tawny elk]

And the light fixtures for road ways are typically rectangles

[ember cobalt]

yeah

[safe patrol]

I feel like different parts of town might have slightly different colors too based on age/property values

[tawny elk]

Way ahead of ya

[ember cobalt]

how are you able to do that?

[cloud crypt]

i stay with the og look, and the og game had nearly white streetlights

[tawny elk]

Bunch of diffrent types of poles

[ember cobalt]

the base game uses different poles for those areas?

or you replaced them

[tawny elk]

Diffrent meshes for diffrent areas in the game

[safe patrol]

well that makes it easy then!

[ember cobalt]

that doesn't really fix my confusion, lol. does the game use different meshes by default?

or are you making that change

[safe patrol]

I guess I don't remember well enough to have a super strong opinion one way or the other. I like the idea of older areas being a bit more dingy/yellow though.

[cloud crypt]

and when at places like these with about 5000 or 5500K

[safe patrol]

it's a small enough change that it's probably not out of the question to have 2 different versions of the mod - one for faithful to vanilla NFSU2 and one for realism maybe? Git makes it easy to diff those changes out

[cloud crypt]

but mainly white lights

@tawny elk try alteast 5500 or 5000K instead of 2500/3000

[cloud crypt]

i wanted to do it that way yes. We need more variety to get a larger group of poeple play it and like it

[cloud crypt]

no editor thingys xD

[ember cobalt]

yeah

they redid the interface like a month ago and ruined it imo, lol

anyway, the formatting is just plain markdown. most of what you know from discord carries over

[cloud crypt]

now looking like this

[cloud crypt]

pls make it a bit colder, its way to warm. 4500 to 5000 is enough

atleast test it

added these lines

[safe patrol]

Huh. Lights aren't working at all for me now. Turning light anti-culling on and off doens't seem to have any affect either.

[cloud crypt]

but you did put mod.usda into your GameReadyAssets folder?

[safe patrol]

yeah

[cloud crypt]

weird

[safe patrol]

I think maybe it ran out of RAM and just decided to stop working or something. Because it was lit in the garage when I first started but once I go out in the streets the lights stop working and even going back to the garage is dark

this requires further testing...

huh. No, I definitely screwed something up because re-launching the game it's now all dark. Let's reload your conf files again...

[cloud crypt]

normally should be like this

[hushed hazel]

there are literally no roads for me

[cloud crypt]

thats because @jade briar still did not fixed the problem that when you delete his folder there are no roads

i will figure something out...

[safe patrol]

oh I see what happened. I overwrote the mod folder with the one from underground_2_RTX_remix_0.1.rar because my roads disappeared like Heyec's, but I forgot to copy your mod file back in there again.

That's why I thought there was a different zip that needed to be pinned, because maybe you were using different roads than the old ones I had from the original post.

maybe share your gameReadyAssets folder? Since something seems to be off?

[cloud crypt]

im on it. i will fix it myself now. when done i will upload it to the git rep

[safe patrol]

haha, ninja'd again. I was just about to say to put as a release in git

yeah. Confirmed. Using your conf, we either get no roads using your mod file or no lights using the old mod file

[cloud crypt]

i will do smth about that

[safe patrol]

At least there's lights!

[cloud crypt]

i get the problem now...

it will be literally impossible to have road textures if some deletes the downloaded files from the download folder

but let me try, i make a backup first...

[safe patrol]

Man, having working headlights is gonna make a huge difference

[tawny elk]

Honestly wish this was as easy as it is in the professional world

[tawny elk]

How's this CCT?

[cloud crypt]

ok, atleast its an acceptable warm light, not too warm and not way to cold

[cloud crypt]

uhm ok?...

[tawny elk]

That do be the whole map

[cloud crypt]

how df

[tawny elk]

Looks like the LOD of the world tho