Call of Duty 2

[static tangle]

lol, fair enough. best approach may be to reformat this as a readme file for Adam's github then?

[sweet cloak]

Yea it can be converted to a markdown very easily

[dull oar]

yea good idea. til then that should do ya 🙂 I've left off the patching information for the time being. would your IT deptartment even allow you to do that mark?

[sweet cloak]

I can give you the memory bits that need modified if you just wanna open it in a hex editor and do it

[dull oar]

could you help with just general life stuff like you do with remix adam? I'd be married to a supermodel by wednesday and a millionaire by next week

[static tangle]

What does that do? just stabilize culling and the like?

[sweet cloak]

Disables the frustum culling from chopping up the meshes

[dull oar]

totally stable after

[static tangle]

If you're not actually replacing those meshes afterwards, there isn't much need for me to use that - I'm mostly looking at testing material replacement stuff

[dull oar]

if peter wants to work on OMM stuff he'll need stable hashes mind you

[static tangle]

hmm, true

[dull oar]

plus we gotta play online once textures.com gets back to me

it has to happen! it's law

[dull oar]

@radiant belfry could you pin this message please?
#1099591203768504421 message

[dull oar]

with Vlad Loktionov's zip you dont need to use a devmap anymore, just clicking start server works 🙂

[scarlet monolith]

looks like ue4 with brushes wtf

[dull oar]

Oh he's just got the show portal command on

[hoary geyser]

CoD2 sometimes does very fine grained geometry culling instead of culling the draw calls, which means it's the same draw call but the primitives are different. This will be really tricky to do anti-culling b/c it's hard to find the trick of how they interpret the topology and cull the mesh.

[dull oar]

Do you know about the two culling methods @hoary geyser ? Portalfinecull on and off

Adam patched a dll to stop it from culling which did the trick, stabilises the hashes as well

[hoary geyser]

Yes I think for this kind of games, it's better to patch the dll. It will be expensive to do primitive level anti-culling. Also you can use rtx.antiCullingTextures to force keeping the meshes

[sweet cloak]

I changed some bits so it thinks everything that can be visible is visible. No more chopping

[dull oar]

You saved the project Adam ❤️

[timid trout]

Could this be applied to other games easily? I recall someone telling that many games from that era use the same culling system

[sweet cloak]

Not easily no

[dull oar]

Still have to do it to single player

[timid trout]

Like dynamically searching the binary for a common pattern

[timid trout]

Yea I would like to see shadows of the cloud of allied squadron flying over

[sweet cloak]

I think there something more to it when I was trying with sp. Something about only loading some chicks chunks since there’s more detail

[dull oar]

Think it's some sort of level splitting tech then?

[sweet cloak]

Yea I have a hunch that there’s some sort of streaming thing going on using the scripts that run the level/story

[cerulean mica]

I re-converted custom textures back to .dds and removed some that are not used in vanilla CoD2 (for usability purposes)

[dull oar]

More brick antics, even got one of @sweet cloak 's awesome rubble scans in there with more to come later. two lighting conditions as well cause I'm bored of the sun shine 😛

[timid trout]

Grab some night vision

these night vision goggles make it too easy

[timid trout]

how

[dull oar]

photoshop bollocks 😛

but you can do it though if you tint the post processing lol

[timid trout]

If remix had some sort of scripting support, we could like disable the denoiser + set ir & heat sources as emissives

I think reshade could work tho 👀

[dull oar]

thats in the game 😛

[timid trout]

Someone had a realistic nv shader for stalker

to use with reshade

its universal

[sweet cloak]

If you have proper ISO control over the image you can do NV easily.

[timid trout]

That's great

[dull oar]

you got ev exposure control

[timid trout]

how do you achieve the green shade? Tonemapping?

[dull oar]

yea 0, 1, 0

[timid trout]

I think we should at least have hot reloading of rtx options

this should be easy to implement

[timid trout]

could allow us to do these with scripting, like bounding it to a hotkey

[dull oar]

i save two rtx.configs and rename them before launch 😛

rtx_sun when i dont want it to load

my half arsed attempt at night vision. you can get a lot out of this tonemapper honestly

[timid trout]

Being able to sync rtx.conf and actual runtime settings would enable us to do all sorts of things, like we could write a script that sets character textures as emissive upon toggling nv in game (I know humans don't glow on nv irl)

[dull oar]

oh wow that would be awesome

[timid trout]

Having native scripting support in remix is superior but this requires much much less work for the nv side

[radiant belfry]

i attempted a similar script with mod.usda. it'd have worked amazingly, if not for the huge stutters it introduces when modified

[timid trout]

Yea but reading a small config should be much faster

[dull oar]

we have global lighting in cod2 currently, its all sunny or its all cloudy, would be great to force it based on the level your going into

[radiant belfry]

i'd hope so, but i'm not sure it would be

[timid trout]

Yea you could do it in a very hacky way with the method I just mentioned

[timid trout]

When mod.usda changes I think it reloads the replacements again?

not just the changes

[radiant belfry]

it does, yes. but even with an ultra tiny usda file it causes some intense stutters

[dull oar]

if we're doing it on level loading though its ok

[timid trout]

#general-remix message
yea : (

[dull oar]

yea : (

ah well, nice dream

need to see if i can add a direct light to the level geo and remove the need for a fallback as a first step

but then its all the tone mapping, sky light settings we're stuck with

[timid trout]

Do you use a custom dome in cod2 ?

I recall something like that

[dull oar]

I wish, BC6 textures dont work in cod2

tried the method I used in chess titans and I get backwards shadows

[timid trout]

wdym by backwards shadows 👀

[dull oar]

and the sky isnt in the texture list

one sec let me dig out the nightmare

[radiant belfry]

that'd fit well in a trippy horror game

[dull oar]

the shadows turn blue, direct sunlight is black

right

and the noise is crazy powerful. using bc7 without hdr and just emissive its so noisy

sky replacement is super important to me and i've been trying for a while

[sweet cloak]

I just had a thought: what if you unmarked the sky texture, captured the scene, replace the sky’s texture with a better one, load up the game, and then mark the sky properly?

[dull oar]

your not a person your five brains wired together for ultimate thunking power, lets give it a go, one sec

oh hang on i dont have a sky it my texture list to mark it as anything 😦

[sweet cloak]

[dull oar]

dont capture and doesnt show in my texture list to tag i'm afraid 😦

[sweet cloak]

Even with the auto sky thing disabled?

[dull oar]

I've tried all those options and nothing 😦

[sweet cloak]

Weird. It should be a box right?

[dull oar]

yea if you enable r_fullbright 0 you can see the box but still cant select it even with the point and click in 3d texture marking system

[sweet cloak]

Wonder if it doesn’t have a texture by default or something.

[dull oar]

i can do things to it, make it brighter, force hdr and all that

[sweet cloak]

Weird. Try opening the captured USD in something besides OV like blender of usdview.

OV sometimes tries to hide the sky

[dull oar]

heres me trying to select the sky in game

this is apparently the sky box "inst_388EB949B5CE7607_0"

[sweet cloak]

Could add the entry manually to replace the texture in the mod usda

[dull oar]

you can do that?

mesh_388EB949B5CE7607 this lil guy

like this?

[sweet cloak]

Correct

[dull oar]

nothing changed 😦

no mention of me doing it wrong in log either

only mention of the sky in there is
"warn: Sky may not appear correct: sky intermediate format has been forced to HDR while the original sky is LDR and no HDR sky replacement has been found!"

also "info: [RTX-Compatibility-Info] Trying to raytrace but not detecting a valid camera."

oddly as the games raytracing just fine

[sweet cloak]

Hm

[dull oar]

to get that sky hash i had to go back through my captures to find it, most captures have no sky box

I'm not sure what i turned on to get that sky

[minor wedge]

Basically its cant be selected like this when its marked as sky

[dull oar]

I've not marked my sky as anything because it's not in the list to mark. Nothing is marked as sky

[minor wedge]

Hmm

Well yeah then

[slate plank]

You are designating first N draw calls as sky though, right?

[dull oar]

if I enter a number around 10 the sky becomes a sky

@slate plank

[dull oar]

if i capture USD with that sky box in view (with first N untextured draw calls below 10) I can add a mesh replacement to it in omniverse. when i go into game with my mesh replacement set up and set my first N untextured draw calls below 10 so the mesh replacement would render the game locks up completely

[sweet cloak]

Damn my strategy breaks remix

[dull oar]

it's my first 100% reproducible crash

[static tangle]

that's a good reason to file a github issue with repro steps

[mystic juniper]

Not completely sure, but this lightmap issue might've been fixed in the last build https://github.com/NVIDIAGameWorks/dxvk-remix/actions/runs/6397188917
Also an option was added to automatically ignore textures that are blended on top (which is usually a lightmap; hopefully nothing non-lightmap won't be incorrectly ignored 🤞): Game Setup -> Parameter Tuning -> Texture Parameters -> Ignore last texture stage

[dull oar]

yep worked great, made those lightmaps go away when i switched everything over to terrain 🙂

[dull oar]

In the process of replacing all textures with my own 3d scans. The website I was using for photo texture source images that I later turned into materials doesn't allow you to release them after you're finished. Textures.com. so I have to replace everything. Looking good so far though.

Got this lovely curb to pop onto the paths. To hell what what cod2 used before we remixing now baby!

I'll release everything on turbo squid or something for free when I'm done so you can use them in your own projects

[scarlet monolith]

man i can't wait to litter them with yeeted fascists

[slate plank]

The baked terrain shifting is now fixed in Build #274.

[dull oar]

Nice one, I'll give it a bash tomorrow and get back to you with a video 🙂

[stray charm]

Hi how to install and dowloand

[dull oar]

Check the pins

[slate plank]

Do you have any more feedback on Terrain System in this game? Are there any cases where it's failing and/or where decals are doing a much better job in how you expect it to look? Note that the default resolution preset may need to be tweaked to reach desired quality, notably the setting rtx.terrainBaker.cascadeMap.levelHalfWidth. As per docs (https://github.com/NVIDIAGameWorks/dxvk-remix/blob/main/documentation/TerrainSystem.md) the height maps are not supported yet.

[dull oar]

sorry mate forgot about this. so this is what it looks like vs the decals. I included my settings as well

the colours match now but the normals and roughness look different. didnt blow up memory as much as it used to i dont think but i've done a lot of work since I last tried this

[slate plank]

Are you using height maps for terrain / tire path (dirt spread out due to a vehicle passing over terrain) in that shot?

[dull oar]

oh yea it's been left on, one sec i'm just uploading a video for you 🙂

when i say "one sec" i mean "30 minutes" uploading to youtube as it's big.

it's me turning on terrain baking and comparing against the decals. it's a bit meandering and i get lost in the UI more than once 😛

[slate plank]

If the resolution is too low, try decreasing First Cascade Level's Half Width

[dull oar]

@slate plank https://youtu.be/Fnx0YJ0gQQ0 here you go buddy. it's processing up to 1080p for another 30 mins

[dull oar]

well thats a game changer!

look how good that looks

i got a fuzzy grassy bit though

[slate plank]

What about the rest of the scene in the last shot. How does that look without the terrain system and using decals? If you have it tagged as decals you can just hit Debug: Disable Binding in Terrain System's GUI to disable it being treated as baked terrain.

[dull oar]

oh wow thats a time saved, virtually identical mate. minus the off bits where its all grass and the cobble is in the wrong spot. video incoming

if it wasnt for the awesome parralax displacement mapping and the bugs i'd use this going forward for sure

[slate plank]

Do you see any visual benefits of this versus your decal based approach?

[dull oar]

oh yea once you get 2 or more stacked decals you get fighting. you'll see in the video how the hay renders on top of everything perfectly when the terrain baker is on

I also get lines and odd stacking with the decals. It looks like a 1cm line through the map where the grass will disappear and the dirt will poke through , its very small and I dont point them out or anything but they're in most images i post. I'll get an example one sec

with the decal system

lots of on and off's in this video mate
https://youtu.be/i8XgEUn_bzY

right thats me done for the day, it's spiderman 2 time thwip

[slate plank]

Thank you for the feedback and examples!

[dull oar]

Hey Nvidia folk. Do you guys know of a way I might be able to change my sky texture if it's not in the texture selection list? It's time for some new lighting

[sweet cloak]

Are the clouds in the texture list?

[dull oar]

no nothing from the sky 😦

this is my whole texture list for carentan

[summer brook]

Guess this might be the issue
https://github.com/NVIDIAGameWorks/dxvk-remix/issues/39

[static tangle]

are you using skyDrawcallIdThreshold to identify the sky texture? I believe that will prevent it from going into the draw call list

I believe we're looking into improving sky handling in general, though I don't know any details

And in an unrelated topic - any update on being able to share your assets?

[dull oar]

Yep getting a lot closer to being able to share them. Think I might just rip out the ones I can't share and give you what I got and we can update as I add new ones. Would that be enough for you?

[static tangle]

right now I'm specifically looking for POM test assets, but in general it'll be good to have your assets in our CI tests

[dull oar]

Oh sick I got loads of pom stuff in there. I'll clean it up today and try to get it over to you tomorrow then 🙂

[dull oar]

@static tangle is there a way to package a mod in omniverse? I can do it manually but i've got A LOT of textures and assets over here to sort through

[dull oar]

nevermind me, delete the textures i cant share, delete the materials that are now grey. easy 🙂

[static tangle]

Omniverse has a function to 'collect' a USD, which will copy that USD and all of it's dependencies into a new folder. You can use that if you have a bunch of assets mixed together

[dull oar]

just uploading it now and sharing the link with nyle 🙂

[static tangle]

also fyi - fix for the preserveOriginalDrawCall
https://discordapp.com/channels/1028444667789967381/1166528495980130384/1166817643760717864

[dull oar]

oh perfect, thanks 🙂

[dull oar]

oh btw setting the sky to 0, saving and reloading made a big black box appear over the map but no texture in the texture list. A capture reveals it has no material assigned. spooky

and so close to Halloween

[static tangle]

Odd. what happens when you replace the mesh?

[dull oar]

Replacement is there just like any other. You can put a material on the replacement as well

But then you got a sun blocking mesh around your map

[static tangle]

ah, right.

[dull oar]

@slate plank just a heads up i shared a version of my COD2 mod with nyle and included my rtx.confg file which includes the terrain marked correctly. might help you 🙂

[static tangle]

FYI - you have some absolute paths in your mod.usda (in mat_B924FA5762E6D7B1_01).

you also have several references to stuff in the capture folder.

[dull oar]

ah right yea i'll to cleaning that up. cheers mate

[dull oar]

oh yea very strange, how'd I manage that I wonder

ah I see the captures folder is referenced because thats where the .mdl is put. is everyone else moving them elsewhere?

uniform asset info:mdl:sourceAsset = @../../captures/materials/AperturePBR_Opacity.mdl@

[static tangle]

those aren't a problem - the runtime doesn't actually use the mdl files.
But I saw at least one prepend references = @../../captures...

which probably won't work correctly at runtime

[floral stump]

@dull oar keep up the good work on the mod

[floral stump]

@dull oar really sorry for the ping
I'm new here and i have a question

have anyone tried rtx remix with cod 4 and mw2 (2009)?

[dusk comet]

unsuccessfully

[floral stump]

oh : (

why

what causing the issue

[warm lagoon]

shader model too high

[dull oar]

It can't find the camera, remix hooks though. We have a cod4 project

https://discord.com/channels/1028444667789967381/1135531755764453477

Check it out and feel free to have a play around yourself 🙂

I've tried recently with no luck though

@floral stump sorry forgot to tag

[floral stump]

All good

thanks for replying

[cerulean mica]

why is the first message now deleted? I almost lost this branch

[radiant belfry]

it was a mistake made a few months ago

[dull oar]

Still working on this, replacing textures, learning substance designer, 3d scanning stuff...busy busy busy

[floral stump]

Good luck 🙏🙏 really looking forward to this

[dull oar]

Sorted out my rubble pile and the puddles cause I did a rubbish job making them after i updated the cobble. Cars basically done as well i just need to pose it and explode some glass around the place

got around 10 materials left to remove and I can share this properly with everyone 🙂 even in its half finished state

[summer brook]

Lovely stuff man 🤩

[dull oar]

oh thats where i left my giant crate

[radiant belfry]

lol

[dull oar]

I'm so close to getting this sky to work

[timid trout]

What have been changed to make this possible?

Looks gorgeous

[dull oar]

oops
#general-remix message

[timid trout]

Hey I was reading

[dull oar]

there we go

meant to copy message, copied text instead like a plonker

[dull oar]

Edit:A video was here, it's dead now. Going to upload a better one tomorrow

[radiant belfry]

post on the subreddit too if you didn't 😛

looks amazing

[dull oar]

Thanks kim, will do. Been a pretty productive day today ain't it 🙂 feeling good

[floral stump]

yooooo

looks very good man

[dull oar]

there we go videos back now. loads better lighting
https://youtu.be/MdW0ZshSPqY

[floral stump]

Man keep up the great work

looks amazing

[static tangle]

FYI... latest change on github can go from this:

to this:

Just needs a bit of pre-processing on the heightmap textures 😛

[sweet cloak]

Deja vu

[radiant belfry]

wow, nice

[static tangle]

mostly makes a big difference when you get in really close (or if the POM is set up to be really deep)

[jolly sandal]

So smooth and buttery, nice work! 🥳

[dull oar]

Damn thats so clean. Nice one mark

[floral stump]

i don't see differences

I'm sorry 😅

[dull oar]

The jaggy bits are gone now at places of contrast of height. It's subtle but means we can push values more before the illusion falls apart

[stoic jetty]

I wonder why you didn't used my thumbnail

this one

[static tangle]

View them at full resolution in a browser

[floral stump]

Oh yeah it's noticable now

[warm lagoon]

is this similar to tessallation?

quadtree POM that is

[static tangle]

It's achieving a similar goal, but with an entirely different method

Here's the paper I was roughly following, though with some improvements from modern SSR techniques (as that has to solve a similar problem) https://www.researchgate.net/publication/47862133_Maximum_Mipmaps_for_Fast_Accurate_and_Scalable_Dynamic_Height_Field_Rendering

[dull oar]

Play buttons in the middle ain't it. Just moved your logo to the top corner. Looks good don't it?

[stoic jetty]

It looks fine

[dull oar]

Oh lovely, thank you very much

[dull oar]

@static tangle octree pom, generated max mips as well 🙂 i like you can toggle both methods

[dull oar]

hmm getting this effect now

[static tangle]

This looks like the mipmap was generated wrong somehow

It's treating the entire mipmapped textures as level 0, that's why you have that stairstep pattern

[dull oar]

Oh yea my height map is now a 2:1 and the mips are stacked on the side like you see in the image

Worked on the first map

[dull oar]

i'm doing something wrong for sure

[stoic jetty]

meanwhile old Remix logo and New Remix logo (both by me)

[dull oar]

looks great 🙂 really cool, shame we cant update the first post of the discord

[dull oar]

we're scripting the sky into the maps no longer hacking them into the d3dbsp 🙂 might mean if i attach a distant light to the sky dome in omniverse we can have per level lighting as we can have per level skys now. one for tomorrow

[static tangle]

unclick that when you open a png that has a mipmap pre-generated in it

[dull oar]

it's always one tick box!

[static tangle]

you may need to click the one above it 'extract from atlas'

[dull oar]

do i need to use the script or can i just pick the right settings in the texture tool in the future for new heightmaps?

[static tangle]

You need to use the script. NVTT doesn't have support for generating max mipmaps (yet - I've asked them to add the feature, and the Remix tool should do this automatically when it comes out)

[dull oar]

so open the texture tool, untick generate mipmaps and extract from atlas, save texture, close tool and then when i next use the script i'm golden right because those options are already selected?

[static tangle]

no.... don't use the tool at all

have the heightmap png in a folder somewhere

[dull oar]

ok i'm ready to follow along

[static tangle]

sorry, looking up to see if I still have the commands I used when testing

[dull oar]

i'll record the process for others to play along with

[static tangle]

nope, so gonna have to type this off the top of my head - you may need to fix it up a bit.

This is the simplest possible command.

C:/src/dxvk-remix/scripts-common/generate_max_mip.py heightmap.png

If NVTT is not installed to C:/Program Files/NVIDIA Corporation/NVIDIA Texture Tools/nvtt_export.exe, then you need to do

C:/src/dxvk-remix/scripts-common/generate_max_mip.py heightmap.png -nvttPath "C:/Path/To/nvtt_export.exe"

you can just download generate_max_mip.py from here, no need to actually check out the whole github
https://github.com/NVIDIAGameWorks/dxvk-remix/blob/main/scripts-common/generate_max_mip.py

if you drop that python script in the same folder as your heightmap, you can just do generate_max_mip.py heightmap.png

There's also an option for explicitly setting the output texture, if you don't want it to be <input>_mipmap.dds

[dull oar]

ok so its working and making stuff, but what its making its still double wide. i need to tick that box but how do i do that?

oh just released its Saturday, i think i'm going to go to bed.

[static tangle]

the PNG will be double wide, but the generated DDS should be correct - try opening it in NVTT with that checkbox disabled. If you go up to the maximum mip level, you should notice that each pixel includes the lightest value from the previous mip level, instead of the average value

Make sure not to re-save when you open it in NVTT

[dull oar]

realtime sun and sky 😮

[timid trout]

how 👀

[dull oar]

had to plonk a massive sphere light in the sky as distant light doesnt rotate

[timid trout]

That explains the softer shadows

[dull oar]

that i think its the denoiser

i have a radius value i should be able to get pin shadow shadows. lets give that a go

[timid trout]

It looks ok, just that your previous shots had the light angle set to lowest I assume?

0.03 or something

[dull oar]

my value was 0.2 for the distant light. just lowering the radius of this point to see if i can get razor sharp shadows

gotta bump up the brightness as i lower the radius

bloomin distant light doesnt rotate 😦

sits there all angry like

[timid trout]

This is the fallback light isn't it

how do you set its position without the menu

[dull oar]

i capture the sky as a mesh, plop a light on it

with game script i rotate that mesh

[timid trout]

Brilliant

[dull oar]

if we can swap meshes with a button press we can have different lighting conditions on a button 😮

[timid trout]

If remix wasn't reloading ALL the assets when you change a single thing, we could

[dull oar]

sky() { model = spawn("script_model", (0, 0, 0)); model.angles = (0, 0, 0); model setModel("xmodel/me_carentansky_static"); while(1){ model RotateYaw(360,100,0,0); wait(100); } } main() { { precacheModel("xmodel/me_carentansky_static"); thread sky(); }
I cant script to make this VERY clear. i'm copying bits off the internet. that rotateyaw and its wait thing is shameful i'm sure but i'm to stupid to know why

[timid trout]

Wdym by "VERY clear"

[dull oar]

I mean i want to be clear i cant script or code or anything

if we can change "xmodel/me_carentansky_static" to be "xmodel/me_carentansky01_static" we get new lighting

[timid trout]

I wish my method of doing this worked well :/ I used the same method I did for the night vision, editing remix's memory in code. However it just doesn't update fallback light direction unless I do something in the ui which although I can replicate in code it causes intense flickers

[dull oar]

cant add a mesh to the game and attach a light to that then?

[timid trout]

For games with poor or no mod support at all

[timid trout]

There should be a documentation somewhere

[dull oar]

oh yea loads and loads, i'm going to have a play today but this may be over my head

[timid trout]

https://m-itch.github.io/codscriptdoc/
https://wiki.zeroy.com/index.php?title=Main_Page

[dull oar]

heres the light at .5 radius, its a tiny tiny point in the sky

think the denoiser is doing it cause i can see sharp shadows from the grass

[timid trout]

It seems so yea

[dull oar]

its fine when the suns moving slower, I'm only after subtle movement

dlss 3.5 will help i bet

[timid trout]

what

[dull oar]

oh ok then 😛

[timid trout]

You can ban people, nice

I think we could check for the time passed since the level started to switch to night preset for example

[dull oar]

hey thats cool. earthquake didnt do anything 😦

[timid trout]

or check for the system time

Quake II RTX has this

it's dark in game if its dark outside

[dull oar]

thats really cool 😛

i dont have to make the sun and sky rotate and can just a proper distant light. we could switch skies though

you got this precache thing so might not be laggy when it happens

[timid trout]

For different maps?

[dull oar]

both

different lighting per level was the goal but a button to cycle sun and skies would be wicked

[timid trout]

so is there a quick compile and test button or you have to get in game to check if the script is valid

[dull oar]

i'm booting the game, you get a lil error window when its messed up

[timid trout]

Oh that would be painful when working on something complex

[warm lagoon]

wait....

how 👀

[timid trout]

black magic

[warm lagoon]

so umm, did you attach the light to the rotating skydome?

[dull oar]

create shortcut to the multiplayer game and add this to the target +set fs_game rtx +exec autoexec1.cfg. put this atuoexec1.cfg here D:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\Call of Duty 2\main and make these folders and copy your level script from the base game here D:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\Call of Duty 2\rtx\maps\mp so you can edit it and your done

[warm lagoon]

we need a directional light to do the magic

its very blurry

[dull oar]

i think its the denoiser

but ideally yea, the sodding directional light doesnt move 😦

always something aint it

[dull oar]

i bet there is a tool i dont know about

[timid trout]

Just resize the sphere so its radius is around 696,342 km and move it 1.496×10^8 km away

[warm lagoon]

that's a lot of zeros

[dull oar]

its nice and sharp when its slower

[timid trout]

How do you guys get around the crash happens when no mic is plugged?

[dull oar]

plug in a mic 😛

[warm lagoon]

yeah this looks very good

[dull oar]

this might help @timid trout

#1099591203768504421 message

[warm lagoon]

@dull oar can there be a way to script the skydome texture to change? so that we can see gradual change from dawn to dusk using sprite sheets or something

[dull oar]

well this is new

[timid trout]

I'll stick to vanilla for now, just wanna see if script compiles

[dull oar]

maybe. the sky is a 2048x4096 pixels. just 4 frames and you got trouble

[dull oar]

does have tips for things like speeding up the game launch

[warm lagoon]

if remix every allows for scripting, we can create dynamic lights where there's flickering (just remove light sources in and out of the scene rapidly) or maybe swap it at each point with different colored lights to create RGB

[timid trout]

I tried this (day-night cycle) with the same way I did night vision, unfortunately remix doesn't update the fallback light direction unless its changed in ui (it triggers an update function upon ui action) and when it does its weird and blurry

[warm lagoon]

implementation looks easy enough, wonder if the remix staff has this sort of stuff in their development track

[timid trout]

Wow I used to set compat mode to XP for this

[timid trout]

#1164480281907052554 message

[dull oar]

kungfooman special, dudes a legend

[warm lagoon]

oh so you can not make the sky animated yet?

[dull oar]

it spins, spinning is an animation

[warm lagoon]

hmm, no worries

we'll figure it out eventually

[dull oar]

could add a second mesh and replace that material with alpha clouds and spin that

[warm lagoon]

great idea, but its not that big of a deal

[timid trout]

Can I get that file

[dull oar]

the level scipt?

best not share game files but you can find it your self by opening this file in 7zip or winrar or whatever
D:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\Call of Duty 2\main\iw_07.iwd\ and going here maps\mp\

[timid trout]

Oh okay, got it

Wow it even has an extension for VSCode

[dull oar]

cod, the perfect rtx platform

[dull oar]

right so the scripted model despawns sometimes, thats what this is. It's not always at door ways and windows though

[timid trout]

With its ability to run shell commands and run code from external libraries

[dull oar]

maybe instead of spawning it in the world at 0,0,0 i can attach it to the player? think its going behind stuff and disapearing

[limber otter]

Smh all tadpole videos aren't loading for me on my phone

[dull oar]

i'll pop the next one on youtube for you then 🙂

[limber otter]

Thanks:3

[timid trout]

@dull oar Is the "debug console" the regular console or its separate?

main()
{
    thread test();
}

test() {
    while (true)
    {
        println("Time: ", getTime());
        wait(100);
    }
}

I have this but I don't see any text printed on the console :/

[dull oar]

oh shft ` to get the expanded one

is that what you're after?

[timid trout]

Just trying to get used to

Still nothing, I am sure the script is loaded because it crashes on errors

[dull oar]

iprintlnbold slaps it in the middle of the screen i think

iprintlnbold("pos" + position);

[timid trout]

still nothing :/

I am definitely missing something

[warm lagoon]

old school server setup?

[dull oar]

oh snap good point @warm lagoon you will need to be in a devmap, "devmap mp_carentan"

or using my autoexec file

[timid trout]

Yes I did that

It directly launches the carentan

[dull oar]

ah all good then

[timid trout]

finally

[sweet cloak]

Might wanna increase your sky saturation to get a bit more blue in the shadows 👀

[warm lagoon]

i think its just regular rasterized game

[sweet cloak]

Oh I was talking about @dull oar script

[timid trout]

@sweet cloak CoD scripts can run code from external dlls

this is crazy

Oh wait not sure about "external"

but there's no print.dll in cod2 so I assume it can

[sweet cloak]

I still worded that poorly. Increasing the blue saturation in the sky will give him blue in the shadows like the real world

[dull oar]

yea playing need to play with values. I got eye adaption on so its like chasing a leaf in the wind. if the suns too bright everything else goes dark, too low and everything lightens up

new video
https://youtu.be/LSqIiug6cdQ
uploaded this one to youtube for you @limber otter

[timid trout]

I think you should adjust the look without eye adaptation then try to achieve the same with eye adaptation parameters

[dull oar]

yea gonna be a thing aint it, need some lighting reference as well

[timid trout]

man this is beautiful

[dull oar]

right! its working so well

[timid trout]

https://discord.com/channels/1028444667789967381/1028600697463263314

[dull oar]

its a sphere light, madness

[timid trout]

🌞: What's so mad about this?

[warm lagoon]

you're idea got me thinking about something

remix could technically add simple animations regardless of game tied animations like a spinning skydome on its own if enough research is done on it, basically free day and night cycle for every open world game

[dull oar]

lol good point

[limber otter]

Holy fuck

[warm lagoon]

indeed

holy intercourse between two sexually attracted entities

[limber otter]

Make it public!!!

[dull oar]

this would have been on github months ago it if wasnt for the sodding texture licenses

unless your referring to the holy sex act

[sweet cloak]

👀

Gotta go fly to France to get some site photos

[timid trout]

Gotta invent a time machine to see how the battle of carentan looked like

[sweet cloak]

Probably cloudy

[dull oar]

it was june

[timid trout]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Carentan
Actually there are some images here

[dull oar]

oh yea suns out

[warm lagoon]

lot of rubble and particles

[timid trout]

So no individuals no-scoping each other?

[dull oar]

yea gonna do the wolfenstein technique for that rubble

[sweet cloak]

Partly cloudy. Slight chance of rain in the evening. Back to Ken for the latest sports news.

[dull oar]

thanks chuck. Our top headline tonight, trump sneezed, more after this commercial break

[sweet cloak]

It’s like I’m really there

[warm lagoon]

||shitposting just cuz of this, LMAO||

[timid trout]

test() {
    // I couldn't figure out how to define arrays in the script scope :/
    sky_list = [];
    sky_list[0] = "xmodel/me_carentansky_static";
    sky_list[1] = "xmodel/me_carentansky01_static";

    // Keep track of which sky model are we using
    sky_index = 0;

    // Set up the sky
    model = spawn("script_model", (0, 0, 0));
    model.angles = (0, 0, 0);
    model setModel(sky_list[sky_index]);

    // Wait until a player joins
    while (true) {
        ply_list = getEntArray("player", "classname");
        if (ply_list.size != 0) {break;}
        wait 1;
    }

    // Assume the first player as the admin
    ply_list = getEntArray("player", "classname");
    ply_admin = ply_list[0];

    while (true) {
        // iprintlnbold("The loop is alive!");

        // Listen for admin's key events
        if (ply_admin attackButtonPressed()) {
            iprintlnbold("The admin attacked!");
            // Cycle between sky paths
            sky_index += 1;
            if (sky_index > ply_list.size) {
                sky_index = 0;
            }
            iprintlnbold("New sky: ", sky_list[sky_index]);

            model setModel(sky_list[sky_index]);
        }
        model RotateYaw(360,100,0,0);
        wait 100;
    }
}

It doesn't detect the action, the loop is definetely running

// Listen for admin's key events
if (ply_admin attackButtonPressed()) {
    ...
}

This never runs

any ideas?

[dull oar]

bollocks better make that second sky you seem close

[timid trout]

huh?

Do I need to create a new one?

instead of switching its model

[dull oar]

I've only got one custom sky so far, i need to make the second one

i'm getting to work on it now

[timid trout]

I am stuck here

trying to detect if the player fired

[dull oar]

can you swap it for something other than if the player fires and does it work after?

[timid trout]

This was for testing obviously, but it seems like the admin is null or attackButtonPressed() doesn't work for some reason.

[timid trout]

You have something else in mind?

[dull oar]

maybe it doesnt work when in the level script?

[timid trout]

But I am calling it on the player 🤔

[dull oar]

can we try a timed thing for now to see if this'll work?

what sky do we wanna do for this one? lets go some something different to sun and cloud
https://polyhaven.com/hdris/skies

[timid trout]

Is there a night one

[dull oar]

night with city lights in the background, might not be ww2 appropriate but can give it a shot cant we for fun

[timid trout]

ah nevermind then, you decide

[dull oar]

this could work
https://polyhaven.com/a/satara_night_no_lamps

[timid trout]

Does it look ok with low sky brightness ?

[dull oar]

no idea, gonna find out aint we

oh neat its got a moon
https://polyhaven.com/a/kloppenheim_02_puresky

i'll darken it

night time in france

[timid trout]

Sky looks a bit bright compared to the environment. Maybe a moonlight would help

[dull oar]

yea i've been thinking that for a while. the sky doesnt emit as much light as it looks like it should

[timid trout]

Oh okay so I needed to cast it to int

[dull oar]

perfect lets do this!

[timid trout]

Is "xmodel/me_carentansky01_static" correct tho?

[dull oar]

yep i copied your name

[timid trout]

And that was copied from your post

lol

sorry

[dull oar]

lordy 😛

[timid trout]

lol();

don't forget to remove the thread sky(); from the main of yours

The function itself can stay, no harm

[dull oar]

my man ❤️

[stoic jetty]

just a default thing im doing when im bored

[dull oar]

uploading to youtube! its awesome!

@static tangle #1099591203768504421 message

[static tangle]

You add that sun via game modding?

looks really good.

[dull oar]

we added one rotating mesh with game modding and with mesh replacements added the sun and hdr texture 🙂

[static tangle]

👍 that's a good way to do it.

[timid trout]

that hurts too (referencing to my attempt)

[dull oar]

and now we got multiple times of day thanks to @timid trout

[static tangle]

Is that replacing the rtx.conf?

[dull oar]

nope just swapping the spawned dome in the sky 🙂

[warm lagoon]

@static tangle is this possible? we would need this later on for other games as well

[dull oar]

the sun in a sphere light 10,000 units away

i'm adding a moon now 🙂

[timid trout]

It's a game script, there's no way I can think of doing this via that

[warm lagoon]

PROGRESS !!! 🔥

did you do this via game itself, like replacing the skydome texture on local game time?

[timid trout]

Wait you rotate the sphere on the up axis?

Why not x or y (would animate up and down)

[static tangle]

We have arguments internally about whether Remix should stay as just a rendering engine, or if we should start adding game engine features like animations, scripting , etc. We already have our hands full just building out the rendering portion. Adding game engine features that would give yall a lot of flexibility, but those are not cheap to build properly, or to maintain.

[dull oar]

the bottom of the sky would show wouldnt it

[timid trout]

Oh right

Need a 360 sky

[warm lagoon]

understandable

[sweet cloak]

||🍕||

[timid trout]

That would be an easter egg like rtx.deliverPizza = true

[warm lagoon]

spinning Pizza in every game

[dull oar]

will have to see about trying to put two sky marked objects in the sky with alpha and see if we can move the sun around independently of the sky so it can arch

stretch goals

[sweet cloak]

That works fine. It respects alpha

[dull oar]

time to cut out some clouds then and layer it up

[sweet cloak]

Are you using an HDR sky? 👀

Or has it been tonemapped down to sdr?

[dull oar]

its hdr but i have lowered the gamma and darkened it for the night time

[sweet cloak]

I actually don’t know if remix handles stacking layers in hdr now that I think about it.

If it does, you should set the clouds to be quite dark to possibly give you could shadows

[dull oar]

if the clouds are marked as sky it wont affect the light

[sweet cloak]

True

[dull oar]

if they arent marked as sky they might look odd

might, might not

[sweet cloak]

That’s also true

[sweet cloak]

Example of blue sky showing up in shadows (also some nice bounce lighting from the bollard)

[dull oar]

quite off here aint it

[sweet cloak]

Yeah, that blue tint makes our monkey brains think it’s sunny out (imo)

[timid trout]

So we want sky color to be more powerful but don't want it to look like a flashbang blast

[warm lagoon]

make it red

[sweet cloak]

It’s a tricky effect but it makes it look way more natural

If you do an overcast cloudy sky you can do gray though since there’s no blue in the sky

[dull oar]

if i go brighter with the sky its blooming out to white. might need to knock back the gamma

[timid trout]

Can we also use tonemapping or eye adaptation to tone down its brightness when looked at directly?

[warm lagoon]

i don't really get it, is the sky diffuse tied with the point light source we have? that would mean the rays would have to bounce back and then at the ground to give you that perfect blue tint

and a hell lot of rays

[sweet cloak]

So there’s two light sources in a basic sky. The sun. And the sky itself.

The sun bounces around in the atmosphere to give a blue glow. This appears in the shadows from the sun source.

[dull oar]

you get this white glow when looking dead ahead until you look up 😦

[timid trout]

It's tied to the sky's color and brightness and the radiance of the light if any

in remix

[sweet cloak]

You could also just mirror the sun source, increase its angle to like 90, lower the strength, and set it to blue.

That way it only appears in shadows and you don’t have to mess with the tone mapping

[timid trout]

But you should be able to get the blue shade without any lights because that's how it is on a cloudy day irl

So you adjust the sky parameters : )

[dull oar]

hmmm...

redownloading the sky and trying again

stuck on this moon light as well, its not loading 😦 same settings as the sun but not working

[timid trout]

So is it the transparency not working?

[dull oar]

havent even got that far, i can place a sphere light in the old sky and its a sun. i place the same light at night and it doesnt appear 😦

no moon

hash in the same every time so its not that

might be break time, been at this hours now aint we

[timid trout]

How many seconds it takes sphere light to move 180 degrees?

It might be under the gameworld when using night sky

[dull oar]

its parented to the dome

no checked under the map

turned off the rotation as well

and the switching

and captured

[timid trout]

I bet you'll figure it out after a good sleep or a shower

[dull oar]

yea that normally does it to be fair

[gaunt agate]

.

[dull oar]

carrying on where we were last night this is the dds at the bottom of the image

running it on the first png in this image btw

[cerulean mica]

https://youtu.be/_jWkVpO-YUM?t=44 😮

[sweet cloak]

If only we had the dev tools

[stoic jetty]

not in our universe

[static tangle]

oh, please download the latest NVTT version from https://developer.nvidia.com/nvidia-texture-tools-exporter

and re-run the script. I was using a version from 2022 when I first tried this and had to update, but I'm not sure when that bug was fixed

[dull oar]

yea that's fixed it 🙂 good catch. I'll get to work re exporting then now then, cheers mark

[dull oar]

looks great at low angles as well ❤️

[stable magnet]

that just sounds even more insane than what RTX Remix is already doing

I'd say just keep working on the rendering part ironing out any incompatibilities

[dull oar]

@static tangle just noticed i kept the scope on the m1 grand we were playing around with last month, might be in the build i sent you. just select team america and pick the m1 grand to play around with it yourself if you like

[gaunt agate]

Patiently waiting for a build

[dull oar]

you dont want that one it's got bugger all in it 😛

[gaunt agate]

I've dealt with cooties before

[dull oar]

i got like 15 textures left, it'll be in december for sure 🙂

sub surface scattered lamp shade today 😮

[slow shore]

there's a leaked .MAP files and there's a unofficial decompiler that can decompile d3dbsp back to .MAP

[slow shore]

what scriptdoc are u referencing? this is probably a extension that added rundll, since the original game cannot

[slow shore]

ye that should fix the long waiting time (which is basically a long for loop due to uninitialized memory e.g -13828321)

i made that patch on a sunday in a couple of hours 😄

[dull oar]

Oh no worries buddy, Adam found a work around and our mesh hashes are completely stable now 🙂

And thank you for the patch it's brilliant, that wait was so frustrating

[timid trout]

https://m-itch.github.io/codscriptdoc/

[timid trout]

Ah that's sad, I had some interesting plans for that :/

I think this is the extension https://github.com/voron00/libcod

[dull oar]

Oh I'm not sure I want to be messing around with something like that. Don't wake the lawyers

[timid trout]

The extension?

[dull oar]

Yea I think that lib cod thing is built off the back of a leak or something. I don't really want to modify cod2 in any meaningful way. Even the sky box stuff I'll replace with marking a mesh replacement as sky. Activision can't shut down your mod if your not actually modifying their game

[slow shore]

"libcod" wasn't built with leaked things though

and has been around for 10 years

[dull oar]

Ah ok cheers

[slow shore]

tbh the only thing is that it maybe woulnt be of much use to you because its mostly a server extension and linux

also if u would not okay with this but would be okay with the cod4 and waw dll mod that enables you to use rtx-remix that would be hypocritical since it's the same kind of mod

[dull oar]

It's the reason I haven't set them up. Brought the disc version and it's sat looking at me right now 😞

[timid trout]

So.. no rundll for clients :/

I had some stupid ideas like this

I don't even remember if that loss of saturation by health thing existed in cod2

[slow shore]

what would u need to do then? does rtx remix allow you to set saturation through a DLL?

you could write some interop code, but then there's the question if it's just locally or server, for just you or everyone else

because cod2 has a linux server binary, windows and mac client binary (exe) and in the client are both the server and client and the GSC script that you run is server only, so the loopback local server thats running on the exe or the linux server binary and this is just the MP part, single player does have different gsc functions and is seperate

[timid trout]

No, I use WriteProcessMemory.
It would be more practical to call that from a game script rather than an external one

[radiant belfry]

@dull oar can you please share your latest rtx.conf file?

[dull oar]

the latest latest conf file needs my mod and i'm still not allowed to share it due to the texture source but i have these ones from the 25th of october. just remove the "_Overcast" or "_Sun" bit depending on what weather you'd like 🙂

[dull oar]

sorry forgot to @ you

[gaunt agate]

Tadpole out here worrying about texture sources like there's a man with a sniper always aimed at his waiting for him to slip up.

[dull oar]

Tadpole dont want no hassle

[warm lagoon]

black vigo gonna pay a nice visit to his home

https://tenor.com/view/fight-back-gang-fight-gif-14104821

[gaunt agate]

Don't worry. Literally no one will bother you. My first 2 releases of nfs are full of textures that don't have a modding license, and 70 of the original game files.

[warm lagoon]

careful, there are snitches

[dull oar]

I directly asked for permission, told no. thats fair enough to me

[warm lagoon]

(totally not me)

[gaunt agate]

Eh

They can't hurt me where I am

I think

Maybe

[warm lagoon]

didn't you find some actually usable textures in polyhaven?

[warm lagoon]

we got our own set of problems to deal first

[dull oar]

i have a one for the dirt, it looks great but i'm working out substance designer to make my own 🙂

[warm lagoon]

zamn

looks good but i'd rather try to make my own

using scans

[dull oar]

yea just kinda boring downloading someone elses work and putting it in you know

[warm lagoon]

still haven't totally dwelled myself in the merlin texture packs

that's where most of the textures were taken from

in early 2000s games

[dull oar]

oh you found them? thought they were lost to time

[warm lagoon]

think i'll add you in the dead group

[dull oar]

oh joy of joys a dead group

[warm lagoon]

nvm i left

@gaunt agate you still in that group we made?

[dull oar]

its cool mate 😛 i dont need them

[gaunt agate]

Uh

Yes

I'm in that

[warm lagoon]

still couldn't find ug2 road textures

😔

[gaunt agate]

Probably custom

[dull oar]

https://youtu.be/7mohaNhOKVk
playing around with the awesome sky system @timid trout has been improving for the past few weeks. its dynamic and you can cycle through them at a push of a button.

i got 5 tuned and balanced nicely and another 5 to mess around with still

[warm lagoon]

need that ray reconstruction magic to make faster light transitions

rays do kind of bounce around before dying

[dull oar]

yea that'll bump the quality

[warm lagoon]

spooky

[gaunt agate]

Great demo

Looks awesome

[dull oar]

lol yea. the fog from the sky before doesnt go away unless you wiggle that camera. it's volumetrics but cant work out how to stop it

[warm lagoon]

no, we need that

for silent Hill 2

[dull oar]

yea just need to make it update without moving the camera around, its really cool after it's updated properly

[warm lagoon]

can't replicate this i think

[dull oar]

you kinda can. having you tired the fog remapping?

[warm lagoon]

i wish...i could 😔

[dull oar]

kinda silent hill ish

i'll try to match the ending of PT 😛

[warm lagoon]

yo i kinda like the fog

now that i mentioned it

[dull oar]

not bad 😛 tone mapping is way off

[warm lagoon]

white balance fluorescent

ig this is where Adam comes in as an expert

[sweet cloak]

That screenshot is color graded. Not going to get that with just color temp

[warm lagoon]

knew it

[dull oar]

we only got these options for post process colour 😛

[sweet cloak]

Yea that little clip from pt was graded

[sweet cloak]

Could set the color balance RGB value to the bright part of the clip in the middle.

Might get ya something

[sweet cloak]

Be neat if we could have reshade like color grading but I know the lads are hard at work on the Uber eats feature and I can wait.

[dull oar]

i had to photoshop it 😛 need curves for each channel. they tint highlights teal

[limber otter]

I wish i had the ability to code stuff

[dull oar]

no coding here, just mucking around with captures and textures. its all art!

[warm lagoon]

zombies with this

ufff

[dull oar]

make the eyes REALLY bright so they cast into the fog 😮

you'd get this wicked glow with a group of them

[sweet cloak]

Me too

[dull oar]

proper pt now

[sweet cloak]

Now we’re cooking

[dull oar]

oh and this sky stuff works for other maps. not all of them though so i'm looking into that now

[sweet cloak]

Damn that looks good

[stoic jetty]

https://tenor.com/view/police-coco-jaw-drop-skeleton-shocked-gif-15485742

[dull oar]

Anyone know why I cant spawn a mesh on mp_matmata, mp_rhine, mp_trainstation and mp_harbor through level script? I'm using the same script as i am on other levels but it doesn't work, i can't spawn anything in the level 😦

[slow shore]

did u rename the script to the mapname.gsc

[dull oar]

just copied it from the iwi, moved it next to the others in my mod "Call of Duty 2\rtx\maps\mp" and slapped the script to the end so I'm very confused. launching it the same with the " +set fs_game rtx" in the target of the shortcut

[slow shore]

did u put the script in the same location maps/mp/

and did u put it in a .iwd?

[dull oar]

no but i'm not with carentan either and thats working

these 4 work
devmap mp_carentan
devmap mp_leningrad
devmap mp_railyard
devmap mp_toujane

[slow shore]

weird

maybe try putting it in a iwd

iwd is basically a zip file

with .iwd extension

[dull oar]

the whole rtx folder ziped and renamed to rtx.iwd and put into main is it? never made one before#

[slow shore]

everything like maps/

[dull oar]

this is my whole rtx mod. got a few things in there I need to load up

just zip everything and name it rtx.iwi and place into main?

[slow shore]

yes

[dull oar]

doesnt work, its not loading it at all now 😦

[slow shore]

weird

[cerulean mica]

you have to duplicate any existing .iwd file, rename it and make edits to it via 7-Zip or NanaZip, because creating a file from scratch will make it incompatible with CoD2

[dull oar]

Ok cheers. Any idea what's happening here @cerulean mica ?
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I can spawn a mesh in 50% of all maps but the other 50 just won't spawn anything. No matter what object I try I spawn via level script

I'm editing carentan.gsc and that's fine. Same exact script on railyard no problem, same for Tunisia but matmata just won't spawn anything

[cerulean mica]

send me the modified files and I'll test them in a couple of hours

[slow shore]

nah u dont have to

[dull oar]

It works without the zip so the zip doesn't matter

[slow shore]

u shouldnt modify the original or have to duplicate any iw_00.iwd at all

[dull oar]

Ta. I'll get it saved and show you where I'm putting it in the level.gsc file. Just booting my pc now

[dull oar]

i'm putting this at the bottom of level script like in the image. i've changed the sky to some dead cows cause the skys a custom mesh

but just doing something simple like
model = spawn("script_model", (0, 0, 1000)); model.angles = (0, 0, 0); model setModel("xmodel/cow_dead_1");
also doesnt work

[cerulean mica]

you should initialize setup_sky() at the beginning of _load.gsc

[dull oar]

sorry mate i've never done that before. how do i do that?

[timid trout]

Uh we're doing it in the main block of the level script

[granite forge]

works fine for me

main()
{
    preCacheModel("xmodel/cow_dead_1");

    maps\mp\mp_matmata_fx::main();
    maps\mp\_load::main();
    ambientPlay("ambient_africa");

 // .......
level thread onPlayerConnect();
}

onPlayerConnect()
{
    while(1)
    {
        level waittill("connected", player);
        player thread onPlayerSpawned();
    }
}

onPlayerSpawned()
{
    self endon("disconnect");

    while(1)
    {
        self waittill("spawned_player");
        self iPrintLnBold("SPAAAAWN");

        model = spawn("script_model", self.origin);
        model.angles = (0, 0, 0);
        model setModel("xmodel/cow_dead_1");
    }
}

[dull oar]

Thank you @granite forge I'll use this to try to work out what's wrong with our lil script 🙂

[granite forge]

Always precache the model you are trying to use. It wont be visible if its not already part of the map

[dull oar]

Oh I see. Will do

Why does it for on some maps and not others do you think?

[granite forge]

Like I said, if the cow model is not already part of the compiled map, you have to precache it

[dull oar]

Cheers, I'll give it a shot after work 🙂

[timid trout]

They're getting precached in the setup_sky()

and it's not async, must have been done before level loading finishes

If that was the problem you should've been at least see the printed text upon switching sky models

Oh I do actually

[stoic jetty]

Cow Spawn, hah

[timid trout]

@granite forge The cow is where the sky is spawned at and they both get culled by boundaries (I guess?), do you have any solutions in mind?

[granite forge]

mhh looks odd. I first thought that its changing to a different LOD that has no model assigned but makes no sense as the sphere also disappears. Does changing r_lodscale ... do anything?

[timid trout]

Uh no, I set it in game tho

Interestingly, it doesn't get culled if I use this on the sky and link it to the player.

Something static would make more sense tho

[lone jay]

@granite forge i've sent you a friend request. If you wouldn't mind eitehr accepting it or allowing DMs, there are some questions i'd love to ask you.

[gaunt agate]

cool

[dull oar]

lamp

[summer brook]

Looks pretty damn good

[dull oar]

free to use for whatever you want, it's in USDA format and all ready to be added to your remix 🙂

[summer brook]

Imagine being able to overlay more complex stuff like dust, fat/oil, fingerprints, scratches and such to the glass shader

[dull oar]

i know right 😛

no textures on your glass 😦

[summer brook]

Hope they add it at some point. Really makes a difference

[dull oar]

we need a place to put stuff we make for sharing with the community

[warm lagoon]

Interesting idea

I'll make sure to tell the mods about this

[dull oar]

updated with 4k textures. Same as before use as you like 🙂

[timid trout]

It is still possible using decals isn't it

[summer brook]

Up to some level it might be, but some superficial roughness requires semi-transparency which is a no no

[dull oar]

it's like the pixar intro over here. i'll get this wrapped up tomorrow 🙂

replacing my low poly friend

[stoic jetty]

https://tenor.com/view/one-less-loose-end-mw2-gif-24942919

[gaunt agate]

noooooooooo

[warm lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/played-gif-13534492

[dull oar]

lamp, I'll upload it in the morning I still gotta tweak some values

SSS lamp shade as well btw

[gaunt agate]

Can confirm. Looks like a lamp to me

[dull oar]

one lamp, free to use how ever you like 🙂

[sweet cloak]

Now that's a lamp

[warm lagoon]

why is it floating mid air

[sweet cloak]

Genie lamp

[timid trout]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_levitation

[dull oar]

Just plopped it outside in the sun light attached to the piano for a screenshot.

[sage locust]

Hey @dull oar 🙂

[dull oar]

Next up is a wall light. Infinity ward love lights

[timid trout]

You can't fool me, there're superconductors and magnets in both the table and the lamps

[warm lagoon]

well i always wanted to know why there were some level of imprecision when doing it, all i got were amusing responses

[dull oar]

Nah pivots bang on the bottom of the lamp. It's perfect

[gaunt agate]

Only one?

boooooo

[dull oar]

One what? I've shared both lamps

Gas lamps here
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[gaunt agate]

oh

That seals the deal

[sage locust]

Is RTX Remix affecting FPP POV at all? The weapons models etc?

[sage locust]

@mild isle hey! Tadpole won't leave us that easy!

[mild isle]

Now I can see it

[mild isle]

We will follow him to the end of the world

[sage locust]

This is us here but we like COD2 remix screenshots 😂

[mild isle]

Hahahahahaha definitely🤣

[dull oar]

shouldnt do no, your cgfov setting works

target in my sights, bravo six going dark

[gaunt agate]

Looks like another lamp

In my honest opinion

[sage locust]

looks like quake2 lamp, lul

Ok we would like to promote this stuff among COD2 Community. We want to make a showmatch where streamer would have these settings applied to show the beauty of COD2 RTX Remix. Now tell us @dull oar what kind of support (or from whom) you need to make that possible, you mentioned on the other channel that it's impossible to play online for now - how to override that? I'm sure not only me and @mild isle but all other admins and devs involved in COD2 community see a great opportunity in your work, and I personally can reach some important figures in the business aswell.

[dull oar]

that does sound awesome but i'm still building mate, going to be a while yet.

[timid trout]

I believe it's impossible because it loads a separate mod called rtx

[sage locust]

Sure, take your time to polish the product 🙂 @timid trout We have heard about your efforts too, big thanks!

[timid trout]

So it should work if the server + all clients load the same

[dull oar]

@sweet cloak as well fixed the culling problem. lots of helping hands getting the job done

[timid trout]

I just helped a little for the sky script, @dull oar and @sweet cloak do the heavy lifting

[dull oar]

To get it working online you'll need to set smc_enable, and disable r_portalfinecull on the server side plus Adams dll patch. Then you'll also need kamil's load.gcs and potentially a load of modded level scripts but those can be local only

Dll patch might could be local, not sure

[timid trout]

Why smc_enable and r_portalfinecull prohibited tho

[dull oar]

Anti cheat stops you setting them

[timid trout]

Oh just disable punkbuster

It's probably has no chance against modern cheats

[sage locust]

PB doesnt work, its in the league rules to have it DISABLED on servers 😄

cod2 disconnected from pb master server years ago

[dull oar]

That stops you joining if you mod files I think. It's not punkbuster that tells you off

It's the thing that stops you editing your fov online

Getting around that is the next challenge

[timid trout]

Sure you launch the server with the same autoexec.cfg?

[dull oar]

That's launching your own server. Not joining one

The devmap part loads a special local map where cheating is fine

[timid trout]

Btw doesn't it inherit the missing files from the main game? Otherwise each mod must bundle the whole game?

[dull oar]

I'm not sure, I've not really tried to go online after seeing it doesn't work. Had so much to do ain't we

[timid trout]

Oh I mean the server must load the same mod anyway, which is not an issue for a custom tournament I assume.

[dull oar]

True

[timid trout]

So if you allow cheats in the server config, what's preventing?

[dull oar]

Should be fine then I think

Need a server to test it

Need a proper bundled mod to test

[timid trout]

Problem solved 🙂

[sage locust]

We can provide you with server @dull oar @timid trout

with free FTP access

theres no problem in running a server with developer on

even on a showmatch

players would be selected and aware

but to make it work we need to be running on our zpam 3.33 with Streamer Mode - players would definitely not use RTX mod, but what we want is to see streamer using it

[sweet cloak]

👀

[warm lagoon]

wait a second

Tadpole showcases stuff but can't redestribute files cause of copyright restrictions i think

something with textures he uses

[dull oar]

Used* and I'm replacing them

[warm lagoon]

isn't that right

?

[sweet cloak]

This was resolved with tadpole redoing everything

[warm lagoon]

poor lad

[dull oar]

Only doing everything twice...no Biggie...

[sweet cloak]

Third times the charm?

[dull oar]

I have rushed some..

[dull oar]

kamil worked out the skys for other maps

[granite forge]

looking good 🫣

[gaunt agate]

Damn. Sun through overcast clouds

Now that's crazy

[dull oar]

oh yea, somethings going on there. should be lined up

@granite forge when spawning a model with script is there anyway you might know to stop it culling?

[granite forge]

stoping it from culling via script or techniques that do not require engine changes?

[dull oar]

yea, we're linking to the player so you carry the sky around with you but the suns moving with the player 😛

[granite forge]

Never tried it but should work in theory: Add either a really huge cube around your model or like poles in each direction and assign a invisible material to it. That way you increase the bounding box the engine checks against.

Or maybe just linking it to such an object is enough

[dull oar]

the model is a sky, the things huge already. but walking around the back of a building will cause it to disappear

[granite forge]

is the model itself actually huge or was it scaled somehow

[dull oar]

its huge

could calculate bounds, i'm not doing that

[granite forge]

that might help

[cerulean mica]

some more UI textures

[granite forge]

or manually setting the bounding box via minX maxX etc so mins to -30000 and maxs to 30000

first time seeing these options. Cod4 doesnt have them

[dull oar]

i dont think they do anything. might be legacy stuff

[stoic jetty]

These skys look amazing

but i think it will be the best if skies in maps will look as much simillar to Original ones so public won't complain

[dull oar]

They can complain all they want 😋 I'm making sweeping changes baby!

The only rule is that it has to be pretty

[timid trout]

hey xoxor, the script links the sky to the player, because I have no idea how to get the entity object on other stuff : ) If we can link it to something that is static it should work fine.

[granite forge]

Well I was thinking that spawning something huge via script and linking the sky to that would work .. but if the sky itself is already huge then it should behave the same.

I’m not sure why it’s culling it in the first place .. maybe it fails because you are inside the sphere and the engine doesn’t know how to handle that

[timid trout]

But it also culls the spawned cow in the same way

Within the same boundaries

[granite forge]

aaaah .... it was my first and initial thought but I did not mention it but .. You are leaving the skybox via noclip and that will definitely cull script entities. Shouldnt happen for normal players .. obviously 😂

[timid trout]

I used debug camera tho, I was in the edge of the map

[granite forge]

if it looks like that then you are outside the skybox

[timid trout]

give me a sec

[timid trout]

I am not exactly at the edge of the meap

the sky is broken with debug camera either way

[dull oar]

Going inside a building on carentan will make the spawned mesh disappear as well

On harbour it's just when you round the bend and walk towards the middle of the map

[timid trout]

@granite forge Is it possible to get entity object to other things in the map? Like buildings and trees maybe?

[granite forge]

nope

[timid trout]

Anything static?

Because when linked to a player it moves with it

[dull oar]

Rotates with the player as well 😋

[timid trout]

Is this any helpful?

[dull oar]

i dont know if you can set that on a script spawned object

[timid trout]

Do I set it real high or low

[dull oar]

big I bet

[timid trout]

huh

probably a libcod thing

[dull oar]

yea might be

carentan had a sweet spot with the sky. 0,0,1000 where it would never cull. maybe we just need to find that sweet spot for each map?

[timid trout]

That's a good idea

If all maps have one

[dull oar]

we can we drop the sky or cow at the players position and pick it up again to help find it?

drop, print co ordinates, zoom around to see if it works, if not close the game and load the map to try a new place

put it back in the level script so its unique to each level?

[granite forge]

spawning it way above the ground doesnt help either I guess?

you can also edit the map's gsc if its not in an iwd and just reload the map to reload the gsc file

[timid trout]

What about a button to set its position to player's position so you can use noclip to check locations without reloading the script

[timid trout]

I wish I knew this earlier lol

[dull oar]

oh snap

[granite forge]

just place the gsc file in mod/maps/mp/mp_matmata.gsc for example

[timid trout]

Also I would like to ask, is it possible to make entities static?

[granite forge]

no

you'd need to recompile the map for that

[gaunt agate]

[granite forge]

but why not just disable entity culling all together if this requires engine changes to work anyway?

[timid trout]

We I don't know how to

[granite forge]

who created the anti culling code? Adam?

[timid trout]

yea

I saw that

[granite forge]

🫣

[sweet cloak]

What’d I do

[gaunt agate]

Nothing

That's the problem

[granite forge]

do you have the address of R_AddCellSceneEntSurfacesInFrustumCmd by any chance 😜

[sweet cloak]

I can check in 4 hours. At the office today

But likely not

[granite forge]

hehe dw

[sweet cloak]

You’d probably want to check in the polymorphic index between the exe and render DLL.

I can send you my IDA databases if you’d like.

[granite forge]

which version of ida are you using?

7.5?

[sweet cloak]

I believe so. Been a minute since I booted up IDA.

[granite forge]

no need then I wont be able it open that 😜

[sweet cloak]

Ah welp

The memory addresses associated with the frustum and culling are in the 1337 files in the repo tho

[granite forge]

I do have the mac build with all function names. Should be enough

[sweet cloak]

I think you need to bindiff the Mac build. I remember trying to use the Mac build and all the functions are wack cause of how the PE has the libraries baked in.

[dull oar]

honestly once mesh replacements support the sky tag we can just do it with that 🙂

it wont spin but that's ok

[timid trout]

not ok

[dull oar]

it does look flopping sick

[radiant belfry]

just spin your camera, good enough 😛

[timid trout]

It currently rotates and moves with the player

like your personal sun

[radiant belfry]

yeah, was just joking

[dull oar]

but it's doing that kim 😛

[timid trout]

That's my point, your joke is our reality right now

[dull oar]

i've put on weight but now i got a fucking orbit 😛

[radiant belfry]

i meant a static skybox, but spinning to mimic movement 😛

that's interesting though

i'm seriously jealous of @dull oar's skills though. i highly doubt my own remix projects will get anywhere near what this one is already

[timid trout]

Maybe we can constantly restore its position and rotation each frame without affecting the player's position.

No idea how to write thread synced gsc tho, even if it's possible. The main use case for this seems to be create game modes and trigger scripted events in the campaign

Let's train an AI model to fix culling in games

[radiant belfry]

i wish 😛

[sweet cloak]

You can feed pseudo C from Ida to ChatGPT and it spits out what it thinks the function does. But nothing too crazy

[radiant belfry]

having something like github copilot, built into a program like ida with a model that's trained on this, would be amazing

(copilot has a 30 day trial btw, might want to try it for fun)

[dull oar]

sorted out the crates 🙂 no longer tiled textures. might age it up a bit

[timid trout]

huh

no documentation :/

Not used in anywhere else :/

[timid trout]

Hmm it's undefined, so I assume it's a libcod thing too

[granite forge]

Thats not a cvar tho. It’s a global variable defined and used only in gsc so you can directly do “level.var = value;” in gsc

[timid trout]

I was gonna type "origin" then noticed that from the autocomplete popup

There's no language server so it pops up for any object

It's definetely not a member of entity tho (got undefined error), I bet it's level

Is there any documentation other than these two?
https://m-itch.github.io/codscriptdoc/
https://wiki.zeroy.com/index.php?title=COD4 (it is still somewhat useful for cod2)

[granite forge]

level is global and you can assign basically any var or objects to it.
Do t think there is much more documentation the. What you already linked. There is none for level variables tho .. you’d have to search for that specific var within all common gsc’s to find out what it does or if it’s even used

[dull oar]

right so the awesome @timid trout made a new script to place the sky on a button press to help find the maps sweet spot and now all maps work 🙂 three maps have some* slight* issues with the sky culling but I'm sure we'll fix that up 🙂

maps! all maps!

[timid trout]

Uh

Okay I figured it out

[slow shore]

isdefined

e.g isdefined(array["keyName"])

[timid trout]

Come on TARS

[sage locust]

https://tenor.com/view/michaelscott-jpj-theoffice-the-office-gif-27685513

[mild isle]

You should put disco colours

https://tenor.com/view/disco-minions-party-yolo-dance-gif-5425411

[sage locust]

That's how you encourage devs to waste time. He will do it and accidentaly find a solution to obstacles he faced before 😄

[slow shore]

thats pretty easy tbh

[mild isle]

hahaha

[slow shore]

warning epilepsy

[mild isle]

hahahahaha

[slow shore]

for anyone who wants to try this

gsc function: setexpfog

with a for loop and wait

[timid trout]

Uh we need that, how do you get the 3rd person view

for player shadows & reflection

[dull oar]

Cg_thirdperson "1"

[timid trout]

We need both to be rendered in the same time

Not exactly whats shown on that video but

I mean we should be able to have a player model with a custom texture, unless we want everyone else to be invisible.

[dull oar]

Sorry what are we wanting to do?

[timid trout]

Spawn a third person model that is uniqe to to you and not used for other players. If that's possible, we can mark its textures as player model texture and they will be invisible to primary rays. So it will cast shadows and will be visible on reflections but not directly

Maybe we can spawn it in script and animate somehow?

Uh most of the animation related functions are for SP only :/

[dull oar]

When a skinned mesh animates it becomes unstable unfortunately. Cpu skinning

The edits I've made to the sky dome weren't getting saved to our rtx mod so now I've moved them and increased their bounds maybe they won't cull anymore.

[timid trout]

We mark it by its texture

[timid trout]

What edits

[dull oar]

Oh yea that don't matter does it, sorry catching up with you a bit

I increased the boundaries size didn't i

But it was saving to main not our rtx mod so the changes never did anything

[timid trout]

Ah right

[warm lagoon]

why are y'all green

[timid trout]

I am an environmentalist

Kim must have given the creator role while giving me access to the https://discord.com/channels/1028444667789967381/1183842219216613377

[slow shore]

it doesnt render both, its either or

[timid trout]

Yea noticed that :/

[slow shore]

there are some hacky ways to accomplish what u want maybe with gsc

[timid trout]

Have an idea how we could achieve that?