Core Computing Challenge

[grim lotus]

Oh

I figured I'd do it since I'm close to killing the boss but can't yet

He's left with like 1/4 hp

[vital birch]

how's your crew?

i couldn't do 8

[smoky lion]

Crew?

[vital birch]

no cre and you did 8?

[smoky lion]

Yeah

[vital birch]

nice

[smoky lion]

I left it overnight to farm waves

[vital birch]

i'll try that setup xd

ah

[smoky lion]

I couldn't beat 7 initially due to getting two tapped

[vital birch]

how high was your bonus % damage / shield overnight?

[smoky lion]

1200%

[vital birch]

cool

[smoky lion]

Or somewhere in that region

But I have turned the computer off

so it could have been higher if I left it on

[brazen flame]

What is best weapon setup for core computing 9?

[brazen scaffold]

I went for 1 T3 beam and 5 laser cannons

gotta gather enough salvage for level 70 on the beam

[small trout]

or have salvage redaction from CS crew

[brazen flame]

Does it take long to get it done? I am in sector 66 and have been avoiding it.

[brazen scaffold]

it takes over one hour

[brazen flame]

I guess I leave it for later.

[smoky lion]

I wonder whether T2 Beam Laser (110) with 5 T1 Laser Cannons on support + 1 T2 Bulk Gen (110) and 2 Deflectors be enough for 20 if you left the game running overnight and farm waves.

'Cause 95 T2 Beam with 2 T2 Bulk (+ 1 deflector) was enough for 19

Although when I think about it, 20 boss doesn't have shields

[small trout]

just run 3 bulk....

cheaper than deflectors, an you idnt have ddeflectors when you pushed 20 the first time

[brazen scaffold]

I needed deflectors for beating the last boss in compute 9 though

[smoky lion]

The thing with deflectors is that they can reflect a hit. And given that shields can be an issue if you don't farm, I think having at least 1 deflector is needed.

if not 2

[brazen scaffold]

I think I went for 2 deflectors

[small trout]

ddeflect is not = reflect.... its not thorns.... boss oesnt take damage from hitting shield

https://tenor.com/view/iqiyi-unforgettable-love-lennon-sun-he-wei-fei-xiao-bao-gif-24574033

[small trout]

ima run cc9 tomorrow and use all bulks an post Shots with times for you nay sayers ;p

[brazen scaffold]

good luck with that

[small trout]

:p

appreciate

https://tenor.com/view/yoda-sarcasm-i-sense-sarcasm-sarcastic-gif-15392780

[smoky lion]

As you should ;P

[small trout]

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my cc8 using all bulk ;p though might be 7... dont rember...

[smoky lion]

19 is 8/9 and 20 is 9/9

so you have beaten 18

so 7/9

[small trout]

ok... then i dint post my cc8 😦

missed log

but i used same buil in both... times was just ifferent

[magic trout]

Did CC8 9 sucks though lol

[magic trout]

yea seen that yesterday

[small trout]

ima o cc9 tomorrow just so i can be with the og crowd who suffered

but theres alway option

[magic trout]

all i got left is base carry after cc9 lol

till something new comes out at least

[small trout]

i finishe BC already

cc9 is last for me

[magic trout]

good luck

[small trout]

you too ;p

[magic trout]

what where your last stats for your last appempt

[small trout]

havent trie 9 yet

one moment ill link 7... i idnt log 8 😦

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[magic trout]

Tried from CC8s ucking so far LOL

[small trout]

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seems i mentione my time 9hrs

so 7 an 8 together one run was 9hr

[magic trout]

not getting any where so far

last one suck

[small trout]

you ont have perma skill... nor shield boost amag on LCs....

[magic trout]

I dont understand what your taking about

[small trout]

perma skill activation

shield boost from LC

lazor boost from lc

beam should swap on lazor boost as well

[magic trout]

just get 2 shotted

guessing its the pewrma skill

perma skil

[small trout]

you got 2 shotted?

or boss did

you was in that run 3days!!!!!!

wtf

Start of my cc9

[hollow hornet]

whats the best build for this challenge?

at the moment i have cruise ship and red orange and pink shards

[small trout]

beam/lc/lc
bulk shield
compute lab
all v1 for cc1

[hollow hornet]

whats v1 and cc1?

[small trout]

core compute 1 (first challenge)
v1 or tier 1 weapon core and shiel cores... if you dont have v2+ it odesnt matter

youll unlock higher tier or v weapons/shiels

[hollow hornet]

ty

[small trout]

oh... compute shard blue... battle shard orange...

if you dont have blue slot... just compute in orange, or battle in orange... which ever gives highest compute speed buff

[hollow hornet]

thank you ❤️

[small trout]

np gl in challenge

[vital birch]

can't still beat sector 18 for cc8, 1 beam laser 2.0, 1 charge laser 2.0, rest laser cannons. two deflectors. All boosts. Crew compute for extra money. Do I just go 3.0?

or just farm

[jagged cloud]

Can anyone confirm if the Salvage speed boost on the comput tab actually does anything when this challenge is active?

[vital birch]

i would bet for a no answer

[jagged cloud]

well my compute bars definitley change when I have a number there vs. nothing, but i'm not 100% on if it actually spends the salvage

definitley faster salvage by spending 1% instead of 0

slightly slower at 10%

Now I need to do the math to figure out where to put it to max salv/s sigh

nope, it actually dosen't matter. It gives you the multiplier, but you hit the caps and max them out far below the amout of compute power there is to allocate.

given a certain amout of compute speed boosts.

I'm at the caps up to Damage and Shield 10 and only using 15% of my available compet power

Therefore, any boosts to compute speed will only reduce the amount of compute power I have allocated, since I'm at the caps. My question thus becomes: where do I raise the compute CAPs so that I can beat higher levels of the compute challenge?

[sacred loom]

Just finished c7 with 1e25 compute speed. 1 beam 2.0, 5 lazors, 2 deflector shields. Need to wait to get beam to 110

[smoky lion]

You can easily push c8 if you wave farm

[vital birch]

i managed to c8 and c9 with around 900% from wave farming

[main badger]

I can reach the 40 cap of both dmg 10 and shield 10

I'm I ready for the second one

[small trout]

bulk shields... but i i mess around with fits becaus ei though i messe up the first fit, then chose a worse set up ;p and had bed/work so got alot of farm

[brazen scaffold]

ah, so if I understand correctly, it is doable without deflectors, it just takes longer

[small trout]

yep yep...

but as sylv hinte thats going to change soon

https://tenor.com/view/soon-gif-19121692

[twin orchid]

is there a table somewhere on how much power i should have to do number 2 of this?

[small trout]

not of power but when you should try

around sector 19 you shoul have stats

[sacred loom]

Ohh did not think about that oh well next time.

[vital birch]

for the worse?

💀

[hidden sapphire]

Hmm, I'm thinking of going in to do computing 4, is it worth to spend the time to go for computing 6 or just wait?

I'm thinking it's probably not for now as I have other challenges I could do and I'd be worried about missing out on warp essence

[brittle fjord]

can you beat computing 5 without tier 2 weapons/shields? i can literally get to the sector 16 boss but it does 2e10 damage and my tier 1 shields cap out at high e8 or low e9

have tried running 1 beam/3 cannon, 2 beam/2cannon, 2 gat/2 cannon, 1 gat/1 beam/2 cannon. just can't seem to get the kill before i get 1 shot

[small trout]

it can be done with v1 cores. but will take longer as you have to compute alot to "over lvl" cores... they continue to get base stat per lvl.... and youll keep farming improved tracking/ablative shielding...
run 1 beam/rest lazzor cannon.. (LCs in full support... Beam all top except for "pictured"
run all bulk shields......
in current content patch compute is a heavy time walled challenge... youre note ment or able to blast all of them in just a few minuts or even hrs sometimes...
they can take 8hr+ if you dont have proper ship/loadout or even skip farming ability 6 stats...

ability 6 examp will be pictured as well

[fiery egret]

man how are you even beating compute challenge 7

my compute is pretty much maxed out but I barely get any salvage

do I have to cheese improved tracking again

[vivid pollen]

what is the weapon set up for core 9 ?
I did crew redirection and lv70 beam 3.0
still cant even pass sector 19

[brazen scaffold]

I'd use tier 2 laser cannons instead of tier 3. This way, you'll get their supportive routing nodes much more easily

[small trout]

yes... it takes few hrs to do 7-9 by farming milestone 6 and using v2 cores....

[hidden sapphire]

Realized I posted in wrong chat haha

[fiery egret]

tbh kinda lame

the scaling of compute challenge is not so well done then

[small trout]

Hence dev has said he's already looked at it and has a update/fix coming in next content update

[small trout]

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[sacred loom]

Also dont forget to use 1 beam, 5 lazors. Each lazor multiplies damage by 4x, instead of 1.3x normally.

[amber rain]

1 beam 4 lasers and one bomb actually

[amber rain]

only 9 takes farming

[small trout]

8 took me an hr...

[fading granite]

core compute 8 1 beam t2 5 laser cannon t2; 2deflectors 1 bulk t2 few hours farm multiplier; without deflectors with 3x t2 bulk s19 boss one shot me

[dense geyser]

CC 7 beat with this setup

[pastel depot]

wtb cc 9 setup

[versed field]

T3 beam + 5x T2 laser canon + 2 deflector
Cyber Specialist 51 rank points salvage redirection upgrade

[small trout]

3x bulk shields v3 if you can affor otherwise v2
1 beam(3v) / rest LC (lc's all support bottom row, V2)
compute lab,
reactor.
use crew CS for Salvage redaction (lvl 51skill point)
ET for more reactor boosts....

[pastel depot]

still grinding proficiency levels

preparing for cc9

waiting for x3 on 1400 & 1520

[main badger]

The salvage multiplier

does it affect how many salvage the computer will give me?

[small trout]

no salvage gained from multiplyer/drops

only compute works

but salvage skill from CS works as its not actual salvage gain, but lvls per sec cap increase

[smoky lion]

How much salvage do you get on 10++ with CAP40?

[small trout]

correct

40 on each bar...

unless you get CS skill

[smoky lion]

I meant "How much salvage do you get on 10++ with CAP40?"

[small trout]

40/sec on every bar.... unless you use CS 51 skill

all bars together at 40/s is like e24

[smoky lion]

Right

Thanks

[small trout]

if youre working on CC 8 or CC9, sylv has hinted that next "update" content update is making changes to slavge gain/per lvl for challenge

will make it easier to finish in "reasonable time"

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[smoky lion]

I am thinking about CC9

Since I've done CC8 after barely CAP40'ing 1.1++

[small trout]

took me about 24hrs even with CS, but i kept playing with load out and missed the most basic concepts....

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[jagged slate]

are the compute challenges even at lower-ish counts (I'm on CC5) supposed to take quite awhile to finish? It looks like it from prev posts in this thread but can't fully tell.

Running a beam and 3 cannons with 2x 2.0 bulk gens, highest sec 39, I can pretty much isntantly get to sector 15 w/o issue but the 15-16 gap seems huge. Been in the challenge for about an hour and the progress is a lot slower. Just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something stupid 😅

[small trout]

youre not. the challenge of this "challenge" is your salvage is currently capped at 40/sec per bar... if you cap (speed) all bars its roughly e24 scrap per sec, which is a good start, but doesnt lvl your cores past a certain point in a timely manner

[jagged slate]

that makes a lot of sense

[small trout]

heres the cost of t2 vrs t3 weapons

[jagged slate]

I don't even have T2 on right now cause they were also taking super long to level, but I could try. I actually made a save that started with those just in case trying 1.0 didn't work out 😂 I don't have 3.0 just yet. Maybe little early for this challenge for me?

[small trout]

no. just gota pay attention to 2 factors really... range (this is why v2) even though slower is better than v1...
and
improved tracking buff

because the challenge "boosts" damage and shield bonus

[jagged slate]

the improved tracking is definitely starting to fly after just 1 hour which is nice to see

[small trout]

farm in sector 4 for improved tracking

[jagged slate]

Will do. appreciate the advice 😄

[small trout]

you chose a time limit or % goal. go there farm waves... then try to push

also pay attention to shard set up and what bonus are active and which aere 0

fire rate and range may work while compute lvls or salvage is 0

[jagged slate]

Ya tried to do a decent setup that actually adds things, seems like I could still get fire rate which was nice

[small trout]

if youre willing to wait, dev has hinted at CC changes coming next "content" "balance" patch

hes changing the 40/sec limit to some how calulate or include lvls....

[jagged slate]

I think if I can't get it in like 3 hours or so total I may scrap it and wait, was really close to sector 40 just figured since I had to prestige anyway I'd see how the challenges go. That sounds cool though would be nice 🤞

[shrewd bolt]

What do I need for cc9?

My beam is at 3e15 DPS which seems not enough :/

[smoky lion]

I would say 8e14 DPS with the top option and bulk+2 deflects

[small trout]

i used 3 bulk.. no need for deflectors in sub 30 sectors lmao

[smoky lion]

The main issue is that while you may have enough dps, you don't have enough shields until WAY later (as in ~5 times more).

[small trout]

or vice versa depending on choices...

[trim pelican]

Yikes, I got to Sector 20 on the Core Compute challenge and could not kill the boss with +50% Improved Tracking.

Went lazy mode and used a time skip, got that up to +1,000% and yet still cannot kill the boss 😮

Using Tier 2 - 1 Beam Laser, 5 Laser Cannons, 2 deflector shields and a bulk generator.

3 shots from boss and I'm dead, 2xDeflected, 3rd kills me >.<

[small trout]

which cc is this...
wat tier shield

use v3 beam, and v3 bulk

[trim pelican]

8/9, final challenge to clear sector 20.
T2 Shield.

Ok I shall try a retrofit, thank you 🙂

[small trout]

dont forget fire rate shard in red

link to blue if rangeworks

[trim pelican]

It does not 😦 but the fire rate does 😄 Thank you.

eek, sadly that's worse. Cannot even get to the boss now hehe! And out of retrofits after a few mistakes.

It's cool, I give up for now. Just finished 3 challenges anyway and gotta go out soon >.< I bet those 3 challenges are pretty powerful!

[sullen crown]

The wiki says:
Core 7-8: Destroyer with lvl 110 beam laser v2 (maxing 1.25 cap+ cap+), 5x laser cannon support, 2x deflector shields. (Needs a little extra for the boss: farm improved tracking/switch

what does Beam laser V2 mean? 2.0?

[brazen scaffold]

yes

[sullen crown]

oh its ez then ty

[main badger]

where's the reconmended computing power for challanges?

My base 2 and warp upgrades are working well

[small trout]

this challenge isnt based on powe

this one is speed, and all you have to do is max out bars..

[sacred loom]

What is recommended for cc9?

[brazen scaffold]

you need to be able to get Cyber Specialist's special perk that increases the levels/sec cap by 10000. It takes a minimum of 51 rank points.

Other than that, it's pretty much the same strategy as the other completions: one beam, plus lasers for the other slots. Shields are slightly different, because for this one, I think you'll want 2x deflectors for the last couple of bosses

[sacred loom]

Ohh i am not there yet. I guess i would wait. I did not do cc8 either, i guess i will do it when i have enoughsats for cc9

[west marsh]

for the core cumputing 2 challenge what is the recomended loadout+

?*

[small trout]

1 beam - rest all LC in support.
all bulk...

compute lab

[west marsh]

thank you

[glass breach]

rank 3? or 4

[small trout]

what you can afford

you want lvl 110

minium

[faint dragon]

How compute speed or anything help with core computing 1 challenge? I don't understand

Thought only 1st core tab contribute in the run

[small trout]

spee allows you to max bar... to do CC1 you need 4 bars fully maxed

[verbal lava]

whats good weapon / shield setup for CC4?

[faint dragon]

max bar? the compute bar? but lvl doesn't go up?

[small trout]

No lvls in challenge.. bars give scrap.. scrap lvls cores.. cores get 10x base stats and ability modified from max damage and shield

Speed allows you to Maxx more bars meaning more scrap faster

[faint dragon]

Oh, bars give scrap in that challenge?

[small trout]

Yes

[faint dragon]

I'm blinded

Thanks!

[small trout]

Farm improved tracking in sector 4

Improved tracking is mile stone 6 ability on weapon and shield

Hover mouse over ability to see what it does and current Stat bonus

[foggy pumice]

sitting here going "damn I must have found the right loadout this run"

I didn't start the challenge 🙄

[small trout]

Lol

[foggy pumice]

do I still want to do the 2 4 5 / 2 4 5 / 2 3 4 5 thing from the pins to get the infinite laser boost in this

I'm on beam 2 / 3x laser 1, on CC #2

[brazen scaffold]

yes

[dense geyser]

how much compute speed do you need for cc9? I'm sitting at 3.14 e11 right now

[small trout]

speed is ilrealvant - if you max "all " bars on page 2....

what you need is last mecanich unlock, or wait... till dev gives content update...

[merry granite]

Is it reasonable to try and complete core computing 7 currently?

[small trout]

yes. you can do all 9 currently ;p

[merry granite]

Any suggestion for loadout? I'm currently maxing at sector 52.

[small trout]

reasonable is subjective

||crew Cyberspecialist|| will make them cake walk with its 51 skill point ability..
otherwise its always same, shard for compute speed/power, then rest reactor, so you can activate.
run compute lab...
bulk shields...
1 or 2 beams- set for maximum damage
rest LCs - full support

[merry granite]

Yeah.... I'm still very early in the crew phases, so I can't rely on that.

And working on maxxing red synth.

[small trout]

dont think synth helps with CC other than compute speed

and auto skill

[merry granite]

True.

Void power gen and VM drop are slight boosts

[amber rain]

oops

wrong chanenl

[small trout]

https://tenor.com/view/special-im-out-good-effort-mylifebelike-helmet-gif-838698744101973313

[chilly compass]

On CC4. I have 2.0 weapons and shields but I can't generate enough scrap to support them. I have all bars maxed out currently, at 20 "levels" per second. What's my bottleneck?

[small trout]

20/sec

[chilly compass]

Getting 6.61e5 scrap per second.

Gotcha.

[small trout]

you need unlock

40/sec is cap

[chilly compass]

Gotcha. I'm 6 hours away on Base 1 from getting it.

16 hrs on base 2 for the other tab, though I don't know how it affects this challenge. Does 40/s allow for using 2.0?

[small trout]

not with only 1 page

you need adv tab

[chilly compass]

Gotcha.

[small trout]

with 'all" bars should be around e25 scrap / sec

[pure nimbus]

what weapon load out works best and also does level matter for this one?

i've done the first two, and now that i can farm on 44 i think im ready to start doing the challenges

[fair oriole]

Hmm, getting one shot by the boss at sector 5 on C2. using tier 2 bulks. Don't think there's anything I can do to stop that and have 3 sectors to go. Looked like i should be ready based on the chart in here. I'm on sector 23 in regular

Hmm looks like Bulk I might scale better on this instance, that might do it

Ah yeah, 10x more powerful upgrades. makes sense now

[dense geyser]

Currently stuck at sector 20 with a level 60 bem and charge laser, I've got a x16.73 multiplier at the moment. I'm tempted to swap one of my 4 Laser cannons to another charge laser 3.0. Should I do that or just sit and wait a bit longer? Running 1 bulk 2 deflectors as well

[small trout]

first. foremost. whats target sector... screen shot, challenge page. ship page, wepon core ability choices. an shard set up
do you have access to CS salvage redaction?

[dense geyser]

Target sector 20, doing cc9, on destroyer ship, 1 beam 1 charge 3.0, 4 LC, 1 bulk, 2 deflector, enhanced reactor, advanced computer lab, CS salvage reduction on, shard setup here

[small trout]

do you have all milestone abilities on weapon core and bulk?

[dense geyser]

no I'm level 60 on both

[small trout]

so... there part of the problem...

drop down to Beam v3, beam v2, rest lc v2 full support. Bulk v3, 2x bulk v2. see how that helps out

boss of s20 only has range of 700... charge lazor isnt needed and you lose massive damage boost on your beams

[dense geyser]

Are you sure I should get rid of my charge laser? It's responsible for like 90% of my dps right now. If I replace my shields I also feel like I'll just get one shot more

[small trout]

i did cc9 with 3 bulk... so im sure... your bigest problem is your losing out on 10x boost from each milestone not active. charge is doing most damage atmoment because it out ranges beam... but you dien to boss right? beam will out damage charge on boss exspecially if you have 4 or 5 full support LCs with fire support and lazor skill active

or you can follopw the advice in USI assorted

either will work better than your current set up

[dense geyser]

I see so I really need level 70 laser in any case

ok

[small trout]

you dont need v3 at all. its just slightly easier.

v2 can win with more tracking ;p

but you have cs and you have v3 so use em ;p

[dense geyser]

I'm close, I'll be there quite soon on level 70

[small trout]

you still need 5 lcs fire support with that lvl 70

with charge you may need lvl 80....

because of the loss

[dense geyser]

gotcha I got 1 retrofit left lucky

[small trout]

you got this ;p

[dense geyser]

I managed to get it once I hit 70 just now by flipping to bottom on lvl 70 on beam and hitting max range increase and laser power boost on the charge laser

thanks for the help!

[rigid olive]

Hey, does reactor help during the core computing chanllenge? It felt like it does nothing

[sullen crown]

for CC 5, i can buy salvage redirect normally, got (522) on proficiency, but i can't get it on the challenge... do i need more levels?

[brazen scaffold]

salvage redirect is not necessary until CC 9. But if you really want to use it for CC 5 onwards, then yes, you need more progress in crew

[small trout]

because you still get compute speed. research and synth.....

3 positives > 0

[hidden sapphire]

I'm not even close to affording salvage redirect, feels like cc9 is a ways off but I wish I could get it done sooner, with being at such a lower stage how do you even afford to get it in the first place though?

[spice fox]

Completed CC9 using old strats (pre-crew) in 28.5 hr: Beam 2.0 + Bomb + 4x Laser. Manual Laser Boost + Volley. Farming with Void Beacon module at Sector 4 with 6x Charge Laser max range to get Improved Tracking to x30. Almost Warp Drived to get rid of enemies by the boss but didn't have to in the end.

[velvet current]

cc8 core computing 8 challenge cleared in 14minutes. beam v2, bomb v2, 4x lc v2. compute and reactor utility. effectively only one bulk v2 because 2 ||deflectors|| didnt get the required 2e25 salvage for lv1. highest sector cleared 53. compute speed 2.66e28. 2 cap+ cap+ almost filled. maxed battle shard VI on orange and compute shard V on blue and power shard on pink. no ||crew|| levels. rapid ramp to mass focuser switching technique.

[main badger]

What should I use for this, deflectors and mk3 weapons are too expensive for me rn

[trim pelican]

If you're doing CC8 or lower T2 weapons are sufficient, I did it all with 1 Beam Laser and 5 Laser Cannons (Support, set to improve your beam laser), the beam laser set for maximum damage.

For CC9 you'll need crew, tier 3 beam and a few hours to save enough salvage / improved targeting.

[main badger]

thanks for the advice

bwt should I use all 5 LC

or should I use 1 charge for range too?

[small trout]

all LC..
1 or 2 beams.

cc 9 doesnt need crew if you use same stra of 2 beams rest LC. but take significantly longer...

[dark ferry]

What shields and utilities should you use?

[small trout]

or scroll up and read some other comments

3 bulk

full top row

[dark ferry]

That only tells me the weapons and I read them...

Okay thanks

[small trout]

well using the noggin... youre in core compute... so..... compute lab
and reactor, or research....

[dark ferry]

For utilities I guess compute lab and reactor?

Hmmm I am at 6/9 now 🙂
But am stuck at the boss of sector 18...
lets hope it works when I wait a bit

[small trout]

using V2?

run V2 beam... V1 Lcs...
V2 shields...

Lcs are full support bottome row

[dark ferry]

OH T1 lc?
lol I have t2 lc same with everything else

And lvl 80 on all weapons and shields

[small trout]

well itll work... just takes little longer because youre consuming more of your income

if you have retro fit.. id lower support though,,, and only lvl support to last milestone

then sink all scrap into shield or beam as needed

[dark ferry]

Welp... I die in one shot from the boss...
So yeah
And I am like 8e9 shield health and the boss does e11 damage....
Edit: finally got it done...
Only took like 2hours 15 min...

[unkempt lichen]

I am trying to beat the sector 19

[unkempt lichen]

Okay, now trying to beat sector 20

[small trout]

as stated read above... or just wait...
imo waiting is better choice at this point in time

[small trout]

b ump

[gleaming pendant]

I'm missing something on CC9

I've got the crew

got the lc's

and I went deep on improved tracking

[gleaming pendant]

changed the BL3 back to max dmg and it pushed it over the edge ( CC9 for future searchers)

[grim anchor]

How much compute is recommended for CC6?

[small trout]

dont focus on numbers for speed and power... focus on bars... and nearing CC 6 you should have at least half - all of adv tab bars maxed...

so use reactor boost and shard..., and lab... can you max all bars...?? yes- run CC
no - then no

[grim anchor]

Half of all adv bars without the shard & reactor boost?

[small trout]

you can use shard, lab, and reactor in challenge... so..... use ALL

[royal wharf]

Hello I wonder should I use Bulk or Continus generator for 5-6 ?

[small trout]

bulk

always bulk when scrap is involved

[royal wharf]

thanks you

V3 or V2?

[small trout]

v2

[royal wharf]

cause V3 might cost too much

[small trout]

you wont make enough scrap for v3

[royal wharf]

thanks you

should U use Computer lab and Enhanced Reactor lab for maximise compute speed?

well ty for the help i'm gonna try to get to 7 W/o deflector and If I fail I'll just retrofit to my normal build and leave the challenge 🙂

I think I make a mistake I've put my Beam laser in V2... shouldn't have done that right?

or do I need to farm more wave to have enough damage ?

Nvm invonlontary was already at 6/9 and it's due to 7/9

[small trout]

everything should be v2

farm s4 for soft cap of tracking while you get money from cap

[royal wharf]

I don't think i'm ready to do 7+

I can't go higher in synth and I have shards in the right place but I don't hink I have what it takes RN

https://tenor.com/view/exterminador-do-futuro-gif-20118743

[delicate terrace]

it's time to try the last one i guess

[small trout]

can in fact delete 🙂

and nice that you use search ;p

[chilly compass]

Shame removed. Yeah, I do try to search first.

I am doing CC8 now, don't think I have the pull for CC9. CC7 was pretty easy but I think I just need my tracking to improve more; boss one shots me with 3x bulk.v.2

But I'm close to a two shot! Which means there's a chance

The search also got me the ramp/focus trick,w hich I didn't think of.

[small trout]

cc 8 and 9 at this point requires use of last mechanic,..... or a very long time in challenge...

my recomendation is wait for update coming... or the last mechanic...

the last mech will allow you to use V3 cores.

[chilly compass]

Close enough to give it a shot with ImpTrack, plus I'm headed to bed. So I can S4 overnight and see where I'm at with upgrades on shields.

[delicate terrace]

OK DONE

left overnight
used "the last mechanic"

build on screen + all bulk v3

tracking was like 20x

[hidden dragon]

Nice!
Did you have crew unlocked? @delicate terrace

[charred fractal]

I'm trying on the CC6, but It seems that a have reach the limitation of allocation, so my computer power can't make usage. How should I improve it?

[ocean nymph]

if your sector 50+ there is a ||crew skill||, what increase your cap by +1e4 (normal cap is 40/sec)
with that u will increase your income by x100-x1000(i dont remember the value xD)
than its just waiting / grinding tracking

[charred fractal]

Thanks! I will check my crews

[mystic ledge]

Had to let my two bonus deflects to charge to give me enough time to kill the boss

[small trout]

target sector is 20.....

you "needed" deflectors?

[mystic ledge]

Yes, I had only 1e11 shields

Bulk shield mk2 upgraded to the max

Hmmm. Maybe I should have used mk4 shield

[small trout]

did you have deflectors the first time you went thru 20?

there isnt a "max" on weapon and shield cores..

[small trout]

but congrats on finishing

[mystic ledge]

I mean how much I could afford by the time my tracking was soft-capped

[mystic ledge]

Noo, I use them on my main build all the time

[mystic ledge]

I did it in a weird way, but I did it. Even feels better this way))

[small trout]

if you had used 2x or 3x bulk the hp is additive. and damage is split... same way you passed thru sector the first time way back when you was newbie clone fighting this space war

[small trout]

this isnt weird... thats how origional guide sugest.... i think its dumb because it makes it slightly harder imo...

deflectors cost more than bulk mk2... and provide no real benifit in these low sectors

and if you can affor deflector you can affor mk3

[mystic ledge]

Yeah, but I need 1e4 bulk shields to get my hp to 1e15 with 1e11 per shield)) Deflectors actually gave me 4 free shots at me

[mystic ledge]

I know but my brain went "I won't have enough salvage, so forget about it"

[prisma ridge]

For this challenge has anyone done the math to find the optimal salvage to consume in the compute tab

[small trout]

0

[prisma ridge]

rip

[small trout]

if you need to consume for speed... then use the 1% button

but this "challenge" is about having speed and power caps (test)

[molten kestrel]

for 5-6 should i use lvl 1 beam? tryed around 180 v1 or ~60-70 v2 and cant beat boss...

shield issue, how get it higher 🤔 (dmg is ok, can almost one shoot boss)

[small trout]

this is outdated and wrong

T1 - V2 Beam
T2 - V2 Beam
T3 - V1 LC (full support bottom)
T4 - V1 LC (full support bottom)

V2 Bulk Shield x2
compute lab

[molten kestrel]

beam v2 70lvl, dmg~7e12/sec (few sec to kill) but boss one shoot me

[small trout]

farm in sector 4 for soft cap of milestone 6..... improved tracking

~45mins ....

with double (or 3x bulk) he wont 1 shot you

also soft capping improved will solv this

[molten kestrel]

yep, seems need do it

i have destroyer, so 2 beams v2 and rest lasers v1?

dont matter, dmg is ok, its only shield issue

[small trout]

3x bulk full top V2

farm sector 4

[molten kestrel]

52min in, 253 cleared 😬

[small trout]

253?

[molten kestrel]

yes

but shield only 5e9

[small trout]

oh..

[molten kestrel]

boss have 9e12 shield/hull...

[small trout]

context matters... not 253 cleared... that doesnt mean anything... but if you said 253 waves cleared ... we would understand ;p

[molten kestrel]

😅

[small trout]

are you using 3x bulks?

[molten kestrel]

yes

[small trout]

then you dont have 5e9 shields

you have 5e9x3

[molten kestrel]

boss dmg 1.14e11 ... so

[small trout]

.,thats 6.5e10

youre almost there... keep ffarming waves in sector 4

screenshot you compute tab/s

[small trout]

thats not who tab...:p but thats part of your issue as well. cc6+ you should have all bars working at or near max

[molten kestrel]

even 10 cap+cap+ for challenge 6?

no way

[small trout]

whats higherst sector reached in normal?

[molten kestrel]

40 cleared, 41 was farming

[small trout]

cc6 is supposed to be done at 45+ so yes

even cc6 you should be gaining scrap from cap 10 ++

your compute power/speed is a little low

[molten kestrel]

max i can get at this point 😅

[small trout]

well your shields are getting closer... keep farming sector 4 waves... and gaining scrap and lvling shields ;p

youll will win its just a time wall

[smoky lion]

I personally don't think I had anywhere close to 1.25++ capped when doing cc6. I remember doing cc7 and cc8 ||before getting crew though||

[small trout]

can always ask FLC for a save and go test..

if youre at 45+ as sugested you had / have more power / speed than hes attempting right now

and if you look at his image hes near 1.25++

[smoky lion]

It was on S45 at most (19/09 was 8100 distance and 20/09 was 7299).

The speed and power shown were using computer lab and the combination shown was 1:50 min per. So speed x power was ~110 times faster than shown on the second one.

And I was talking about CC7 and CC8 (albeit it was overnight)

To show I am not bluffing

[small trout]

i believe you...

[random lintel]

this is realy the worst thing in the game. i get all the compute bars maxed very easy i buy all max t2 weapons 5 lasers 1 beam laser, 1 bulk shield 2 deflectors (although i dont get how the deflectors work) i collected wave kills for a whole day and i still get 1 shot at stage 19 bevore i can even fire and it also seems my damage is getting too low now. wtf am i doing wrong ?

[small trout]

this is bad fit

2 beams/ rest lc
all 3 bulk...
remember when you got to sector 20 to begin with... didnt have deflectors...

also damage scaling on v2 isnt quite high enough.... for a short run. youll want v3 beam and v3 shields...
but to afford v3 cores (youll need to use ||crew||)

@lucid kestrel

[random lintel]

oh i am pretty far in the game dont worry - will retrofit and than collect some money over night

@small trout what ||members|| would help me with getting more salvage ?

[small trout]

only 1 you need 51 rank points into CS

[random lintel]

oh yep i got that one

[gray marten]

Is this what I'm looking for to do CC4? Or is 4 still too early to start swapping to T2 weapons?

[small trout]

should be fine... you want bulk shields... v2....

farm trcking in sector 4 for about 30-45mins... if you cant beat boss

[gray marten]

Ah ok. Thank you. 🙂

[prisma ridge]

thought cc6 was gonna be a grind but managed to handle both cc5 and cc6 in one shot with no need to farm improved tracking, just needed to pick Route B as I couldnt handle shots from the boss of A or C but B fired slowly enough I could take it down

[small trout]

proper path for fit is valid strat people overlook alot ;p

they just auto a and forget some paths are better suited to certain weapons

[prisma ridge]

I had Beam as my main dps and when the skirmishers from route a were swarming the hell out of me i was like wait this cant be right

woke me up from the auto pathing

[odd ingot]

I'm having trouble trying cc5. I need help.
all core lv 80+

[prisma ridge]

doesnt seem like youre using laser boost from the screenshot

[odd ingot]

There's no point in turning on the laser booster its 14 sector
specs seem to be sufficient, but what's the problem?

[brazen scaffold]

hmm... can you turn on the compute boost from reactor in this challenge? I forget

[odd ingot]

sure

[small trout]

The point is firerate and damage. Shields don't Mayer if you kill them before they shoot...

Next farm improve tracking in sector 4... and you didn't show core ability choices... and you didn't follow fit guide. . So take your pick... one or all these variables are what you did wrong..

[odd ingot]

Thank you for your answer.
I couldn't find fit guide..
It's still difficult, but I'll try to increase the firerate and damage thank you

[small trout]

isnt one exactly... pined ,. but if you scroll up ;p

#1087075244583436378 message

[slender pine]

i'm stuck with this one

do i just need to farm improved tracking and shielding?

[small trout]

that depends which one youre on and setup...
but mostly yes

[slender pine]

beam v2 + 5 lc + 2 bulk v2 + deflector + comp and reactor util (reactor on comp speed + modules)

was trying 5-6, but i guess 5 is fine after some time afk

because when i just autoprogress to it i couldnt even do 14

[small trout]

so, Put simple..
beam v2
beam v 2
4x LC v1 full tupposrt stop spending income lvling it at lvl 110... (last milestone)

3x Bulk V2 (deflector is = to v3 and isnt needed)

farm sector 4 for improved tracking...

[slender pine]

i forgot i had auto leveling turned on, but yes, after certain point i level manually to spread more evenly

i see, will try

[small trout]

and down on this (beam) as well.. that 100% better than fire rate in grand scheeme

pump up that perma skill and keep it on 24/7 :p

[slender pine]

oh, i see

makes sence

[slender pine]

ty, worked better

now to see if i can do 7-8 now

[small trout]

7 sure

8 wait

8 and 9 either youll want ||crew|| or update from dev coming that has changes to CC
thats because cc8 and 9 needs v3 beams and v3 shields...... or a
really
really
really
long time farming traking and lotsa
lotsa
lotsa lvls to get enough stats ;p

[slender pine]

holy

i see

thanks

[small trout]

:p np

all 9 are doable but 8 and 9 really are just time walls without the last mechanic uses

devs got changes in works for cc to make it less just time gate and more enjoyable... while still maintaing its about Computing use

[slender pine]

oh

nice

well, i guess all last challenges are like that, cuz you have to spread them across the game and power levels

will be sad to get a power spike and having nothing to do withi t

[small trout]

wont be as big issue as you may think.... hence the delays

hes got some introductions coming...

or reworks ;p

[slender pine]

hope i'll get there before the update

😄

[molten kestrel]

trying do 7/9 and have shield issue, any tips?

seems need bulk shield 110 lvl

[slender pine]

do you have deflectors?

2 should be enough with some farm (for tracking to get more damage) to kill boss before you get killed

[molten kestrel]

yes

ohh tracking, okay

[slender pine]

this node on your weapon that gives damage buff per cleared wave

yeah

cuz iirc i was getting oneshot even with a bit leveled shields on c7

so 2 ||deflectors|| and more damage is the way to go

[molten kestrel]

7,8 done in 38min 💪 👍

[rigid olive]

CC9

[glass ruin]

why still cant i pass the core 9

what did i missed..

[small trout]

you abilility config is wrong..2x beam v3 ability 5 and 7 down... rest top
4x LC v2 full support... means all bottom row.
3x bulk shields v3 full top
or 1 bulk 2x defl (imo this will still have hard time)

and lastly yull eant to use CS ||crew||

[glass ruin]

thxxx

i just do the minor fixing and i made ittt

thxxx

[hidden dragon]

how long would it take with this setup? I'm trying it right now but I'm not really far yet after 3 hours and it doesn`t seem that I'll ever be able to get tracking on beam V3 lol it just cost to much scrap. I'm also not able to get all compute bars full

[small trout]

which cc challenge?

[hidden dragon]

9

[small trout]

if youre going for V3 cores, youll need ||CS crewmate|| or wait for update.... theres changes coming to CC challenge due to way it works

took me less than 2hrs with CS running salvage redraction...

[hidden dragon]

I have the ||CS crewmate|| not max tho
What is salvage redraction? And what do you mean with cores? 🤔

Found it

[small trout]

youre weapons and shields are cores lmao

[hidden dragon]

okay I'm not that far into ||crew|| yet guess I'll restart it then and try later again

[small trout]

weapon core shield core utility core... otherwise Ships cores ;p

[hidden dragon]

Oh true

okay, I'll try it later then I think

[small trout]

gl :p

[hidden dragon]

Thanks 😁

[late marsh]

Just unlocked challenge 1, immediately started it, 30 minutes later, stuck in sector 5

[small trout]

do you have the first 4 compute bars maxt?

[late marsh]

Yes I do, have 600 in 5 and 6

[small trout]

screen shot compute page and core page

[late marsh]

I just finished it, I wasn't using laser boost >.<

[royal wharf]

hello, for CC9 wouldn't be better to use V4 beam laser? just remember It buff the crap out of the buff from 25% more to 3.5X

Also how long (high) should I farm improved tracking?

[royal wharf]

well I farm until both V3 are level 70, x12.5 multiplier on improved tracking

[royal wharf]

I regret everything, W/O deflect I get one shot by sector 20 boss, I have enough damage to take him down in 2 second but he beat me in 1.3 so sad

lose about 40 minutes :S

or even 90 if I can't beat with one Beam level 70...

[royal wharf]

9/9 done : set up level : 70/60/110/110/110/110/60/0/0 , need CS salvage redirection

[small trout]

@white hearth what is your specfic question? what is your normal sector (highest) and how many compute bars do you have capped on basic page and adv page?

[white hearth]

all on the basic page and dont have enough to cap on the second first item without compute core

[small trout]

youre good for 1-3 most likely then.

1 or 2 beams. V2 if you have em,, but v1 will work that low.
rest LC v1 full support (bottom row)
bulk shieds v2

[white hearth]

@small trout i cant even beat stage 5 boss and i have all basic capped and the first 1 in advanced capped

[small trout]

Did you follow the core set up I said? Screenshot core page

[tame scaffold]

i feel legit retarded. stuck at sector 21 boss. like what wrong????

[small trout]

turn auto uprade on your shields, and beams.... let it sit for hr or two lvling. your setup is correct, just gota get lvls on cores

you can get a little extra damage from 2x lc buy switching first 2 abilities to top

only need 2 lcs full bottom

of and battle shard in red link to blue

for range / firerate boosts

[tame scaffold]

this is the dumbest challenge. in other ones if you stuck you know you are doing something wrong. There the strat is to wait for 1-2 hours

range capt at x1

done

[small trout]

its a time challenge sorry bud..

[sonic bison]

Sector 21 finished with 2 Beam laser 3.0 (improved tracking was 3.19, mass focuser enabled on both), 3 laser cannons 2.0 and 1 charge laser 2.0 all set to support (charge laser I forgot to change to laser cannon and didn't bother). 1 Bulk shield 3.0, 2 deflectors. Reactor computer speed lv 260, Comp speed buster T7 lv 10, Battle and compute shards IV maxed. Crew Cyber specialist rank 24 (10 lv and 19 on computer speed). Comp output was 1e34 on average.

[bitter fog]

wow it's so much easier now, I just respec'd to kinetic weapons for the last boss and annihalated it in 2 bomb shots

took just under 10 mins total

[main badger]

I tried this again

with new 1.1+++

this seem to be a fast one now

S21 boss need to retrofit into deflector

should be able to complete in 10 min

[stuck jay]

Guys, I'm at 2/9 and for some reason I decided it was a good idea to go with 2.0 cores... Do I restart for those cheaper upgrades and retrofit into 2.0 or do I just roll with it?

I ended up restarting the challenge. WORTH

[main badger]

2.0 cores should help you finish 6 or 7 if used correctly

[autumn notch]

um whats the core setup we should be using for this? trying 2/9 atm. highest sector reached is 23

do i perhaps do 1x gatling v1 + 2x support lc v1?

[small trout]

beam / lc / lc
lc full support v1 bottom row
beam v2 with lazor skill down and ability 7 down

bulk shileds v2

and a litttle time

[autumn notch]

but isnt v2 stuff a bit too ex to use in challenge

2/9 is to clear sector 8

[small trout]

well sorry didnt read yeah for you yes

but when you go for cc 4+ thats same set up

• or minus a beam/lc '[

beam / lc
latter 2x beam / LC

[autumn notch]

at sector 8 boss atm with v1 beam, 2 v1 lc and 2 v1 bulk

other than reactor, synth modules and v device, there isnt much else that would help right?

[small trout]

improved tracking farm sector 4

tracking is ability 6

[autumn notch]

these?

[small trout]

can you ss or full cores

[autumn notch]

why sector 4?

[small trout]

hover mouse over to see how much its providing...

[small trout]

because its per wave clear... not kill... you want waves to spawn and move into killing range fast...
so swarmer enemy best... 2nd best is skirmisher enemys

low hp fast moving...

[autumn notch]

oh

huh

[small trout]

later 37b will top 4

and i havent found better yet... as far as wave spawn

[autumn notch]

just to confirm but there isnt much way to get from a later sector to an older one other than the back button?

[small trout]

theres another way to revers but its same thing essentially ;p

[autumn notch]

sure does take a while

[small trout]

use reactor engin boost ;p

[autumn notch]

ah ye 25 ai boost

[small trout]

it does work

[autumn notch]

oh right

so i just have to afk at any progress % in sector 4 to build up that stat?

[small trout]

yep. id say about 30-60mins and you can blast threw...

[autumn notch]

alright thats cool

doubtful i can push for 3/9 tho

[small trout]

between tracking scaling up, youll earn scap to keep lvling beam

if auto lvl is on LC, turn it off

use scrap for beam and shields only

[autumn notch]

oh

[small trout]

and compute lab if you dont have all compute bars capped

[autumn notch]

after that bottom path?

[small trout]

LCs full bottom to lvl 110

[autumn notch]

oh

[small trout]

110 is all abilitys

[autumn notch]

thats gonna take a while prob

[small trout]

just hr or 2...

[autumn notch]

eh

[small trout]

thats why you use s4 to track farm

:p

[autumn notch]

s4?

[small trout]

sector

[autumn notch]

oh

[small trout]

shields have same ability

all scales together ;p

[autumn notch]

spicy

[bronze crag]

i'm assuming the LC 1.0 is for a particular reason? Trying to do challenge 8, and my LC 3.0 goes to level 165 or so almost immediately (4E39 salvage/sec helps a lot..), but that's apparently not the right strategy. 🙂

[small trout]

you get to lvl 165 on v3 in CC challenge instantly?

[bronze crag]

give or take. compute is maxed out(even in advanced)

[small trout]

screen shot please

[bronze crag]

screenshot of which? the cap'd compute?

[small trout]

in challenge yes

[bronze crag]

everything above takes a single allocation

[small trout]

then use v3 cores ;p
the lower tier is because people are spending hrs to days trying to lvl to 110 on v2+ cores...

[bronze crag]

can't remmber if i can hit 110 on v4's or not

[small trout]

supports only need lvl 110.. shields and dps need to be v3 and as much scrap as possible for 10min- 1hr cc completions

[bronze crag]

ok, thanks.. i'd ignored challenges for like a year so figured i'd complete them

"like a year" may be exaggerated, can't find where the time played stat is 🙂

total time 314 days.. ok, almost

did the other challenges, but core was harder so ignored it

it's amusing to end challenge so i can refit.. shields go from 1e9 to 1e83 in about 5 seconds

oh.. i was on cc9.. whoops. 🙂

i have 3 shield modules, assuming when it says 2 deflector i can do what i want with the other? 🙂

ok trying again, thanks 🙂

it was crew and my reactor that makes it cap out compute. reactor is level 803 or so, and then the bottom middle on the cyber specialist

[small trout]

bulk 2 def, or 3 bulk...

[bronze crag]

done, thanks 🙂

couldn't be bothered to idle in 4, went for it immediately

figured that'd take awhile to boost anyways

[brazen scaffold]

the reward from the compute challenge essentially makes compute levels have less harsh diminishing returns. The over-simplified formula for a given compute bar's benefit is level^0.5, and each completion of the compute challenge increases this exponent by 0.02, up to level^0.68 at 9 completions. ||This bonus only affects the compute bars in the Basic tab.||

[celest verge]

going into this, what should my ship loadout be for weapons, their tiers, shields and utilities?

[small trout]

how many cores you have?

wepaon/shields

[small trout]

1 beam/rest LC
LC full support (bottom abilities)
beam will follow similar thats in my guide.. perma lazor skill is must...
2 x bulk full top row

use shield skll when need to regen

[celest verge]

does the reactor, synth modules, and v devices all effect compute speed in challenges too?

bet ty

[small trout]

so no

oops

[celest verge]

right but do the compute upgrades have an effect

[small trout]

yes reactor helsp comp speed

shards will do speed , but not salvage

and yes to synt for speed

put battle shard in red

for fire rate buff

farm improved tracking in sector 4 for a little before you try to push boss

improved tracking is ability 6 on weapon or shields

you can hover mose over it and see benifit

[celest verge]

wouldnt i want battle shard in orange?

[small trout]

for beging but not to push bosss

[celest verge]

ahhh makes sense

[small trout]

unless you have shard link?

[celest verge]

im guessing not, never heard of that

[small trout]

then orange or red, link to other

sorry base 3 unlock

[celest verge]

t1 for weapons and shields?

[small trout]

at your compute lvl yeah...

later will be v2 beam v2 shields v1 lcs

[celest verge]

im just gonna give you access to my pc overnight, get me to end game by morning please

[small trout]

lmao

[celest verge]

ty for the help

see you in the next challenge discussion in a few minutes

[small trout]

https://tenor.com/view/michael-scott-wink-yes-no-problem-gif-16355545

[celest verge]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-scholar-gentleman-thank-you-gif-12594669

[loud sun]

So, I'm on 8/9, but I'm not sure what loadout I should bring. It's been a long time since I finished the 8th challenge, would anyone be able to advise a full loadout for finishing off the 9th?

[small trout]

2 beam 4 LC full support

[loud sun]

I feel like Laser Cannons were good, but I'm not sure what tier of anything to bring, since stuff tends to get rather crazy expensive the higher the tier, but if the weapons too low tier, won't be helpful.

[small trout]

1 bullk 2x deflect

[loud sun]

Deflectors? Really? That's unexpected.

[small trout]

v3 beams / v2 LCs
v3 bulk

[small trout]

i used 3x V3 bulk

but it requires more scrap

people negate scrap cost using deflect top row

[loud sun]

Hey, I'm all for optimizing it so I can get back to Base building.

[small trout]

😛

[loud sun]

So somethin like this, yeah?

Whoop, almost did 4.0 bulk.

[small trout]

you could use 4.0 bulk juts needs more scrap

[loud sun]

All I know is I've basically hit a grind wall for Base boosting. Can't really make much progress at this point.

Figure I may as well do the final Core challenge, then set it on auto-pilot for a while, lol.

[small trout]

CLICK BACKUP.... lol free ai points

[loud sun]

Oh, I know, I just haven't bothered finding a spot to put the backup since I started. Eventually just ignored it.

[small trout]

desktop.....to trash ;p

free ai points!

i left it as default location

when it gets full ill go trashem ... but seriously those ai points to good to ignor... even though its only 5 😦

[loud sun]

Odd, it looks like you've got more Accumulation options than me.

[small trout]

you unlock them

[loud sun]

That's my entire list, nothin else below it.

[small trout]

s69+

[loud sun]

Really? Furthest I've gotten was 72, nothin unlocked. (Though I only reached the entrance, that's where I'm walled right now, due to lack of stats across the board.)

[small trout]

by your picture youre on the task list needed to unlock em ;p

[loud sun]

Ah, yeah.

[small trout]

they are hidden because dev doesnt want to spoil the unlock

[loud sun]

My bases aren't the most built up, unfortunately.

So I figured I'd finish off the Core challenge, as the final challenge, then go back to passively grinding em up.

Your setup got me through within about 5 minutes, much appreciated.

[small trout]

youre bases are actually near good enough to finish list if albiet a bit slow

B4 is the hardest one you want that about 1100 to 1500

[loud sun]

Really? My Warp Essence gain is abysmal compared to what I need, and my Synthing would take multiple years to finish even the Ultima Alloy.

And that's with all my crew focused on Synthing, Synthing shard plus Flex shard, etc.

[small trout]

you messed up crew or you dont have enough crew stats... this is my bases

[loud sun]

For whatever reason, my 4th base keeps hemorrhaging Building Materials, even if I leave it on the "optimal balanced" setup from the guide area.

[small trout]

is this with crew on non-output priority?

[loud sun]

My Synth Base is nowhere near yours.

[small trout]

only 5e10 difference

[loud sun]

If I don't dump nearly every point into non-output, that's when it starts actively losing Building Materials.

[small trout]

so when you go to work on bases... temporarialy turn all red buildings off... focus only on green

[loud sun]

Those are my only crew right now. Was still trying to decide what to print for my other two.

[small trout]

lvl up drain reduce building

[small trout]

these crew are wrong

the t3 skills are tainted

[loud sun]

Eh? How's that?

[small trout]

t3 has a divisor read the skill

[loud sun]

I figured it was the only option on there to bump non-component output further.

[loud sun]

I still don't get how divisors work, I admit.

Has never clicked in my head.

[small trout]

8 divided by 2 means?

but 8 divided by 16 is what (this is tainted for example)

[loud sun]

Doesn't it only apply to that one skill though? Or does it affect everything across the board?

[small trout]

some skills look at other crew

[loud sun]

If it's everything, I feel very silly for not realizing.

[small trout]

hover over skill if it says active (this means all active crew)

if its just (eng) for example it means on that character only

[loud sun]

Wait, so does that mean it reduces the effectiveness of all stuff involving Engineering across the board?

[small trout]

show me your skill...

[loud sun]

Math's never been my strong point, so apologies if these seem like obvious questions.

[small trout]

i dont have divisors anymore

[small trout]

so this one means you cant have Prof on LM .... lm needs to be eng pure
look at t3 skill on IE

[loud sun]

This one?

[small trout]

this one says hes looking at pro of all crew... so doesnt mater who you pick... to use IE you dont want red trained on anyone...

can you see that now by observing the skills wording?

[loud sun]

Wait, so just allowing the Proficiency to even level up decreases the effectiveness essentially?

[small trout]

correct

[loud sun]

Well . . . . Fyuck.

[small trout]

thats why your synth run didnt work out either

[loud sun]

I NEVER knew that.

[small trout]

you tainted your synth skills in t3

[loud sun]

I just thought it was basically diminishing buffs.

Not that it actively weakened other stuff.

[small trout]

same with compute when you do it

[loud sun]

Well, shoot, good to know NOW.

[small trout]

thei is for compute e22#sector-51-to-74 message

[loud sun]

Compute e22? What's that?

[small trout]

on your task list prestige tab

[loud sun]

Oh, reaching that level of compute for the progress thingie.

Apologies, brain ain't making all the proper connections this morning.

[small trout]

hire more caffien ;p

[loud sun]

Sadly, my body is basically immune to caffeine. It and Sugar don't affect me.

I'm the self proclaimed "most boring man on Earth". Alcohol also doesn't affect me. (But I don't enjoy the taste, so I don't bother drinking alcohol.)

Man, having an idea of how Divisors work now makes me want to focus on getting that divisor removing thing, but I don't think I'd get there anytime soon.

I've only got 378 Ranks at the moment.

[small trout]

i jus got it early this morning

[loud sun]

Ah, then if you've only just gotten it, I'm way too far behind to achieve it anytime soon. I'll try to focus on just the base buffing.

Also, should we be talking about this in a different channel? I worry I'm flooding this place with non-Core-Computing conversation.

[small trout]

https://discord.com/channels/1023372620705566740/1109639190922145892 yep

[proud violet]

Ok, trying to run c7-9, 2 beams 3.0, 4 cannons 2.0, 2 deflectors, 1 bulk 3.0, comp lab, enhanced reactor, ET, CS, IE. am I missing anything?

[small trout]

make sure not to taint crew skills

looks good. other than modules and shards ;P

[proud violet]

well right 😄

how can I pump up income on the challenge, is there a layering strategy to compute, or does it just max out and that's it?

[small trout]

can i see your page 2 of compute tabl

[small trout]

youre missing a bar... my recomendation... you can do 8 and 9 now... but is time walled.... or you can go back to sector pushing till you unlock new bar

sorry for spoiler

[proud violet]

ahh, gotcha, post what is it 69?

[small trout]

think 71 gets it, but maybe just beating 70

[proud violet]

well that'll just make things too easy

but I'm ok with that

[small trout]

im confirming now what trigger was for +++ bar

[small trout]

you here still

save game... make a back up

close game and verify integrity of game files if on steam

you should have the cap +++ bar upon update.... something didnt update righte

[proud violet]

oh wild

[small trout]

if that doesnt fix gota get help from dev but that should work

[proud violet]

well, says it's all verified

hmm, everything looks different though

[small trout]

comput tab page 2?

[proud violet]

yep, have 1.1 +++ now

[small trout]

now do that challenge

[proud violet]

ahhh, new everything

geez, been playing these last couple of days like a peasant

[pallid rivet]

freakin steam Not updating for some people is so weird

[solid helm]

anyone around who can help me figure out how to finish computer challenge 9? i'm trying to figure out if i should be on tier 3 or 4 weapons . on tier 3 i get to sector 20 right away but then get stuck, on tier 4 i cant get past sector 14 at first but slowly make progress as i painfully slowly level up my cores.

[small trout]

Hi, whats your highest sector

[solid helm]

i figured what i was doing wrong ( i had my core skills set up on my weapons wrong) but thanks for the help

[grand cosmos]

what weapons should I be using for the first few challenges? I have the heavy cruiser but im walled at wave 8

i was using the setup from wave 22-29 on the discord here

[brazen scaffold]

I think you want 1 beam and all laser cannons

[grand cosmos]

beam 2 or 1?

2.0 or 1.0 i mean

[brazen scaffold]

1.0 for the first 6 completions

[nocturne needle]

Where can I check the stats of compute exponent? I am not sure how it can benefit in the formula

[small trout]

its x^1.68 for all complete

so 8/9 is x^1.66

[brazen scaffold]

^0.68 at max, actually

[small trout]

i said that

lol

oh...

i added a 1

meh thanks nomi youre my number lord ;p

[quartz hawk]

is the core challenge just a matter of waiting out resource gain

i'm trying to do #2 right now

compute power 28

hard stuck in sector 8

[brazen scaffold]

yeah, it's a matter of getting enough salvage to level up your weapons and shields enough to beat the challenge

[quartz hawk]

what helps it go faster

like what prep can i do

[brazen scaffold]

hmm... there's the compute boost in reactor, the compute shard, and the battle shard that can help for sure

does the synth module that increases compute speed work in this challenge?

[pallid rivet]

ya

[quartz hawk]

does the booster building boost all 8 adjacent squares, or only the 4

[brazen scaffold]

only 4

in other words, it affects orthogonally adjacent buildings

"orthogonally" being left, right, up, and down

[brazen scaffold]

Target sectors for each completion of the Core Computing challenge, for future reference:

• 1: sector 5

• 2: sector 11

• 3: sector 14

• 4: sector 16

• 5: sector 18

[austere kelp]

gusy can u send me some compute challenge tut? 😄

i am sector 67 and cant done 8 9

ok found it

ok still cant do ut

it

[small trout]

need to see crew....

shards

[small trout]

ok. so crew and shards are wrong.

[austere kelp]

thx so what should i change

[small trout]

CS... turn stat switch off.... only lvl red... reprint... t1 skil 25... t2 skill 25.... t3 capston 1/1 .... t3 skill lvls per bar fill all the rest...
theres another crew with compute skill can you show me other crew

[austere kelp]

what do you mean by this "t3 skill lvls per bar fill all the rest..."?

to spend rest of the skill points to those three left?

[austere kelp]

ok done

[small trout]

retire ME

on IE turn stat swith off

select red

then print

t1 skill 10 points... t2 skill will be 40 point and all remaingin wil go to t3 lvls gained

[austere kelp]

just 30 left

so all to the red one?

[small trout]

yes

[austere kelp]

done

[small trout]

and go to et... turn off stat switch

set to blue only

reprint

[austere kelp]

done

[small trout]

all 50 points in t1 skill

save rest for after challenge

[austere kelp]

ok

done

[small trout]

shards

nvm shards are good

try that

ship cores are wrong

[austere kelp]

ok

[small trout]

do you have retro fit?

[austere kelp]

yeah 3x

[small trout]

V3 beam. V3 Beam
v2 LC (full bottom row) for rest slots

[austere kelp]

6

[small trout]

only lvl the LC to lvl 110... then turn of auto upgrade for all other scrap goes to beams and shields

[small trout]

make sure compute lab gets as many lvls as possible

[small trout]

LCs full bottom row choices

beams will take these down

[austere kelp]

ok challenge done

thanks!

[small trout]

welcome

[trail kite]

Gamer move

[amber smelt]

Can someone share the setup for second challenge ? at 22 rn but can't beat second challenge.. I know it has to do with my setup but I can't seem to be able to come up with a good one...

[brazen scaffold]

one beam + laser cannons should do the trick

[small trout]

the answer is literally above you

lmao

[amber smelt]

you mean the one where's there like 6 waeapons for my cruiser ?

[amber smelt]

ty

[small trout]

more doesnt mean its wrong... 😛 you has a noodle.. 🙂

its same set up all cc 1 or 2 beams rest lc in support

no need to ask any more... crush your foes!

[vernal oyster]

is there a build guide like the synth purity thread? with message links to peoples builds and what level they completed?

[small trout]

nop cause this one is really easy...

cc1-4 1 beam (boss abilities) rest lcs (full support bottom)full bulk top row... (v1s)
cc5 - 9 2 beam v2 rest lcs v1 supports (full bulk v2 top row)

cc8-9 you can do 1 beam v3 and 1 bulk v3 but scrap can still be an issue without ||crew|| and cap +++

example cc8 or nine here

[jagged locust]

why beam v2 and lcs only lvl 1?

is version 1 lc better than v2?

ans why lc full bottom? i will be overcap

[fading ravine]

Laser cannon is just for support, the beam does all the work. ^^

[jagged locust]

jeah saw it XD. the boss killed me one shot XD

[astral zenith]

oops im at S30 and still didnt do challenge 3

[grizzled cypress]

What are some recommendations for cores for the 4th run?

[small trout]

same as first run

1 beam - rest lcs

all bullk shields

[grizzled cypress]

Thank you!

[novel locust]

so i looked at the pins and it says i can complete all the challenges at sector 49 already?

or is this outdated

[brazen scaffold]

it's outdated, and that specific pin is just statistics

[small trout]

you "can" complete all at 49

it will not be easy or advised...

8 and 9 recomend you be in s51 and use a tool unlocked there

[novel locust]

im at 52 but i dont know what you mean by tool kek

[brazen scaffold]

he's referring to ||crew||

[small trout]

51 was ||crew|| Use ||Cyber specialist capstone skill slavag redirection||

Scotty was a tool

https://tenor.com/view/star-trek-tos-star-trek-scotty-mccoy-well-scotty-now-youve-done-it-gif-25876524

https://tenor.com/view/swear-trek-star-trek-scotty-unfucked-gif-9209616

[novel locust]

oh there is no way i can get that i just unlocked it today

[rich basin]

am i supposed to use all 1.0 weapons/shields for the earlier challenges? 2-4 or something

or maybe start as 1.0 and then retrofit to 2.0 further in?

[small trout]

use v1 for cc 1-5

vv6 is first place v2 might be viable and even then might take a while

[rich basin]

huh

turns out it was way easier when you had 1.0 stuff

retrofit MVP

what's the ideal ratio for salvage spent on computation power to get a good income?

just leave it on auto?

[small trout]

1%

lmao

it isnt optimal... but i dont use math so ill take convience

[acoustic glacier]

how far do u think i can go

[trail kite]

prob 17 hopefully maybe not

[small trout]

17 will be your wall

youre hard locked at s18 at best