**Seeded Generation Option** | Backrooms: Escape Together | Page 1

naive sparrow Feb 21, 2025, 5:58 PM

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Procedural Generation has made casual gameplay uniquely better for the Backrooms. It has even made speed running unique, but maybe not for the best. Reset after reset after reset. I am a former World Record holder for various Individual Levels, and I can vouch, it can take over 400 resets just for that one WR seed! Now, imagine messing up a jump or taking a wrong turn while in that World Record seed. You will have to reset and try again after many more resets. Why?
RNG
RNG is limiting the BET speed running potential! Instead of getting a WR by relying on 80% luck and 20% skill, why not give the chance to reverse it! By adding in a Seeded Generation option. With Seeded Generation, EVERYONE will have the same map, same layout. It will make records rely on 80% skill and 20% item RNG instead! Imagine the optimization and competition. There is potential for speed runners from other communities to join the BET community with seeded generation. In return, that will create more content for BET and bring in a wave of new players.

Casual Gameplay
How will Seeded Generation alter casual gameplay for new players? Well, not by much. The default should be procedural generation when loading into a game. Seeded should only be an option in the lobby menu somewhere near the lobby code. If the seed is left blank, it will be procedural generation. It will leave the casual player curious, but not think too much of it on the first playthrough. Don't make it stand out!

Does this mainly help seed runners?
While it Greatly helps speed runners, they wont receive all the benefits. Inspirations from The Bindings of Issac.......Easter Egg Seeds! Big Heads? No Hostility? Super Speed? Maybe even a drunken effect for your drunken mess in the backrooms! Easter Egg seeds will allow the community to band together and find this games secrets, while being rewarded goofy gameplay!

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Seeds menu should display in lobby menu. There will be a drop down box, followed by 'Easter Egg' and each level. You can pre put in each levels seed, or the 'Easter Egg' seed which acts as a game modifier (big head, fast speed, etc).
In options, have a seeds option with a drop down box. Add 'Show seeds' and 'Seed Opacity'. Maybe even a 'Display Seed' with a drop down box following 'top left, bottom right, etc.'.
This should allow any unique seeds to be recorded and replayed.
Have hints to random seeds like 'Noggin' or 'Liquid Pain' randomly generate in levels.
'Noggin' = Big Heads 'Liquid Pain' = Every item generates liquid pain effect, or only spawns liquid pains.

cunning torrent Feb 21, 2025, 6:09 PM

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i could see myself spending some hours finding fast seeds HazmanApprove

naive sparrow Feb 21, 2025, 6:11 PM

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cunning torrent i could see myself spending some hours finding fast seeds <:HazmanApprove:125687...

this could answer the question of sub 10 solo

gritty narwhal Mar 1, 2025, 5:36 PM

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This would be awesome and we’ve definitely talked about adding this. Will just need to find a good way to add this to save creation without having the unintended effect of people accidentally clicking on it. The amount of complaints about the game brining you back to level 0 after death (purgatory) is insane. People sometimes accidentally click on it.

naive sparrow Mar 2, 2025, 5:00 AM

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gritty narwhal This would be awesome and we’ve definitely talked about adding this. Will just n...

Maybe have the purgatory option locked until you beat the game once? Still don't know ab hiding the seeds. But at least for purgatory misclicks, locking it will force the Normal mode. That might make new people see purgatory as more difficult.
Or honestly make purgatory red or a 'warning' color to make it stand out, that should make people question the mode before playing it.
Finally,
Add a prompt that pops up when you select purgatory. It can say
'You have selected Lurgatory. You only get 1 life! Deaths reset you to level 0'. With a close button.
You can either turn off the prompt in settings or set it to automatically stop showing after x amount of times loading into purgatory.

I'm sure you have thought about many possibilities, but maybe you missed one of these ideas. Idk being a game developer seems to be a lot of responsibility. Crazy good work tho

cunning torrent Mar 2, 2025, 5:08 AM

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i was thinking a pop-up as well if someone selected purg, but still about 50% of people that click purg by accident will click that away the same fashion;
what about the seed option being a third option to choose when starting a journey, maybe even de-activating steam achievements since they could be made trivial with seeds for levels?

naive sparrow Mar 2, 2025, 5:15 AM

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The achievement disable 100%. Low-key forgot about replay level.
Maybe start by adding seed options to replay levels vs full game. It wouldn't be in the journey mode selection for the new players and still feeds speedrunners. Just not full game speedrunners, but maybe add full game seed support in a later patch. That kinda merges seeds into what he already had planned I think. It's like a seed test trial before a full commit.

cunning torrent Mar 2, 2025, 6:30 AM

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wouldn't replay technically be playing the same seed too without the option to enter others 😅

vernal pebble Mar 3, 2025, 2:53 AM

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naive sparrow Procedural Generation has made casual gameplay uniquely better for the Backrooms...

Hey I know you!!!!

naive sparrow Mar 3, 2025, 7:44 PM

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vernal pebble Hey I know you!!!!

nuh uh

thorny plinth Mar 3, 2025, 8:05 PM

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seeds are would make speed runs "without random seed" crazy and way more sweaty

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but i think that's fun

cunning torrent Mar 3, 2025, 9:27 PM

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you could hunt for seeds then, god rng segments or a whole run with best case rng so it comes down to movement skill and such

vernal pebble Mar 3, 2025, 10:18 PM

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naive sparrow nuh uh

I'm going to delete this suggestion for extremely low quality

naive sparrow Mar 3, 2025, 10:21 PM

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Extreme quality, that seed box is top notch art

thorny plinth Mar 4, 2025, 2:48 PM

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cunning torrent you could hunt for seeds then, god rng segments or a whole run with best case rn...

this is going to be like mario bros level 1-1

cunning torrent Mar 5, 2025, 2:12 PM

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i'd love to know how seed generation/level layouts work at the moment; because a full-run seed could be difficult seeing that even if you load the same save file multiple times, the level is different each time so does the seed change every time you load/remake/die?
so does every level-layout have its own seed or is there a seed somewhere above the levels SonicWave

thorny plinth Mar 5, 2025, 4:15 PM

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i have no idea but we'll see what the devs come up with

last bluff Mar 5, 2025, 6:34 PM

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wouldnt it be easy to get achievements that way

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yea im not reading all 'at but it seems like a cool idea

cunning torrent Mar 5, 2025, 7:47 PM

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yeah we said inbetween that achievements should be de-activated with seed input because they could be made trivial

oak carbon May 1, 2025, 6:20 PM

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bump

oak carbon May 2, 2025, 1:01 PM

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bump

deft summit May 2, 2025, 7:46 PM

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Horrible idea

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Hope it don't get added

thorny plinth May 3, 2025, 5:18 AM

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deft summit Hope it don't get added

Why, i think it's pretty fun, the only problem i see is people using the best "seeds" to get specific achievements, but u can just say that achievements only unlock if u haven't put in a seed 🤷‍♂️

cunning torrent May 4, 2025, 8:04 PM

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i think to avoid trivialization of achievements, which so far are for level completion, "unlocking" the set seed option should be like the "return to hub" option, meaning it gets unlocked on "finishing" the game, so people with seed input should already have the level achievements anyway

thorny plinth May 5, 2025, 4:20 AM

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cunning torrent i think to avoid trivialization of achievements, which so far are for level comp...

Also a good idea

naive sparrow May 5, 2025, 4:06 PM

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Forgot I made this ngl

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dump

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bump

thorny plinth May 5, 2025, 4:07 PM

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naive sparrow Forgot I made this ngl

it is a great idea

naive sparrow May 5, 2025, 4:07 PM

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ah damn

thorny plinth May 5, 2025, 4:07 PM

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pump

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gumb

naive sparrow May 5, 2025, 4:07 PM

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thank you dude

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gumbo

cunning torrent May 5, 2025, 4:24 PM

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naive sparrow Forgot I made this ngl

how can you forget the beautiful paint artwork Disbelief

naive sparrow May 5, 2025, 4:28 PM

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cunning torrent how can you forget the beautiful paint artwork <:Disbelief:1256872187323879465>

I don't remember my masterpieces, only thinking on how I will make the next HazLove

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I don't remeber my masterpieces, i dont-I, I do...where am i?

thorny plinth May 5, 2025, 4:34 PM

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naive sparrow I don't remeber my masterpieces, i dont-I, I do...where am i?

i think u need to take a nap

cunning torrent May 5, 2025, 4:35 PM

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naive sparrow I don't remeber my masterpieces, i dont-I, I do...where am i?

man got lost in the resets

naive sparrow May 6, 2025, 12:22 AM

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🥪

deft summit May 6, 2025, 1:13 PM

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lava chicken sandwhich???

naive sparrow May 17, 2025, 6:27 PM

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cunning torrent May 17, 2025, 6:27 PM

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big bump partyblob

cunning torrent Jul 24, 2025, 11:48 PM

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today i got reminded that we really need this Prayge

thorny plinth Jul 25, 2025, 4:16 AM

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This still exists

naive sparrow Jul 25, 2025, 9:48 AM

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I want it!

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I played a procedural gen backrooms game with this feature recently. It was actually a nice option. There was a box with SEED next to it. To turn it on and off. And a bar to input the seed. They also had level select so you can IL seed or full game.

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thorny plinth Jul 25, 2025, 9:54 AM

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Idk about a level selector

cunning torrent Jul 25, 2025, 10:03 AM

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naive sparrow I played a procedural gen backrooms game with this feature recently. It was actu...

that would be lovely

naive sparrow Jul 25, 2025, 11:01 AM

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thorny plinth Idk about a level selector

That's what the game had, I doubt bet would do lvl select since we can access saves.

thorny plinth Jul 25, 2025, 11:02 AM

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naive sparrow That's what the game had, I doubt bet would do lvl select since we can access sa...

and hub

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PartyJoy

naive sparrow Jul 25, 2025, 11:03 AM

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naive sparrow Jul 31, 2025, 9:40 PM

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naive sparrow Aug 11, 2025, 4:28 PM

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Le bump

cunning torrent Aug 11, 2025, 4:30 PM

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having to play at least once through the game to unlock it, so people don't accidentally click it on their first playthrough might be good
like the return to hub feature getting unlocked

sour moon Aug 18, 2025, 9:23 PM

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Need

naive sparrow Aug 20, 2025, 6:03 PM

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thorny plinth Aug 20, 2025, 6:46 PM

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We need this lwk

thorny plinth Sep 19, 2025, 4:42 AM

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@naive sparrow they're considering this

naive sparrow Sep 19, 2025, 4:43 AM

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thorny plinth <@845775819938988082> they're considering this

W

thorny plinth Sep 19, 2025, 4:45 AM

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Please devs we need this

naive sparrow Sep 19, 2025, 4:46 AM

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🙏

patent wharf Sep 19, 2025, 4:47 AM

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We do chat this would be pretty goated

thorny plinth Sep 19, 2025, 4:52 AM

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Just this shouldn't be allowed on purgatory

cunning torrent Sep 19, 2025, 5:19 AM

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seed input would literally double our speedrun categories to any% and any% seeded peepoLove

thorny plinth Sep 19, 2025, 5:31 AM

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And probably would double the speed running community too

cunning torrent Sep 19, 2025, 5:31 AM

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we could go seed hunting and debate what seeds are better peepoHappy

thorny plinth Sep 19, 2025, 5:37 AM

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I would 100% start seed hunting

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Imagine like the perfect seed

cunning torrent Sep 19, 2025, 5:47 AM

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depends on if it would be per level or per journey that we could input a seed, if we could input seeds for specific levels that would make seed hunting easier

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a seed per journey would be hard to scout, more to revisit if someone got a good rng, idk 😄

thorny plinth Sep 19, 2025, 5:55 AM

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Probably per journey, but that's alr, that's just like MC speedrunning

cunning torrent Sep 19, 2025, 5:55 AM

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i feel like per journey would kinda be wasted potential but i could see both ways working HazApprove

thorny plinth Sep 19, 2025, 6:00 AM

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I think per journey is better, and for ilvl running u could just take a normal seed with an specially good level 3 for example and just run that

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I feel like for every level would be a bit much

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