#vanillynux
scenic osprey
explod
does ip a show anything at all
or dmesg
try sudo lsmod | grep bcma
should have no output
oh crap
ok rmmod all the modules and then rmmod bcma
then modprobe wl and depmod -a
oooooh
is it wlan or wlp
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
it loaded
check settings
nice nice]
nice
do the install but then dont reboot yet
because we have to chroot in and install the driver, and add a blacklist conf for all those other broadcom insanity modules
do that
or your install will probably fail lol
because certs explod
is it just wrong timezone
or is it entirely wrong
timedatectl set-ntp true
if its a day off it likely wont be an issue though
as long as it isnt more than like 2 weeks its fine
lol
not a big issue tho
you are simply in the future
scenic osprey
do the install but then dont reboot yet
anyway do this
tf is onyx never heard of this
uhhhh idk
look at screenshots for all of em
i have no idea wtf onyx is tho]
oh onyx is crystal's customized gnome
i'd reccomend plasma, gnome, or onyx
plasma is windows-y yeah
used to use it before moving to my custom stuff
you can always switch! so yeah go for it
i wouldl go a little bigger. while you can do it while installing id reccomend resizing windows outside of the installer using gparted
you cant do it in windows LMAO
it will stop you if you dont have enough space unpartitioned
you prob have gparted in this usb
50 is fine
free as in
unpartitioned
or as in free
oh lol
so do like 52 lol
anyway do you hav gparted
right click windows partition, resize, drag right or left handle to resize in whatever direction you want
leave like 2gb free inside the partition so windows doesns shit itself
yeah the last one before unallocated
resize that
also next time you boot into windows it will prob run chkdisk but it will be fine
lol
wdym
is it mounted?
unmount it in files
hover over the ! in gparted
whats it say
ohhhhh right
install both of those
then reopen gparted
its just ntfs-3g
ntfsprogs is included in it @sonic sage
just ntfs-3g
arch bundles them together i think
right
pacman -Sy to update db
yes yes i know dont partial upgrade before anyone asks but its a live usb you literally cannot upgrade or it will shit itself
oh so which do you want to maek smaller
trol bad mirror
lol
just cancel and run again it should use new mirror
ok fuck that just uhh
yeah cancel the -Sy and run again ig
is reflector installed?
good ok 1min
sudo reflector --save /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist --country CountryName --protocol https --fastest 5
Singapore
💀 what
who
fuckin
aaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
HOW
meager tide
aaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
oh hey just like your name
scenic osprey
yeah the iso probably doesnt lmao uhhhh
or the ramdisk
nah
im thinkin
uhhh
df -h /
1min
but you cant reszize the windows partition fro windows
why the hell would this not have ntfs 3g?????
meager tide
why the hell would this not have ntfs 3g?????
ntfs kernel driver exists now 
scenic osprey
rm /var/lib/pacman/sync/*.db
scenic osprey
ntfs kernel driver exists now <:trolley:1024751352028602449>
doesnt have cli tools
meager tide
resizing an ntfs partition sounds like a completely horrible idea and i wish you luck
scenic osprey
ok nvm that uhh
scenic osprey
resizing an ntfs partition sounds like a completely horrible idea and i wish you...
it works fine
you have skill issues
does their installer
let you resize your windows partitions
god
meager tide
it works fine
no i've resized partitions plenty of times its just sounds like a relatively bad idea to do it to a windows partition
scenic osprey
i have done it a million times in various scenarios its always fine
meager tide
says, as someone who has resized a windows partition multiple times and its turned out fine:
BUT STILl
scenic osprey
it runs chkdisk and works
WHAT FUCK RECCOMENDED A BETA DISTRO
guhhhhh
are you still able to like
make a text file
and save it
or not
impossible
you cant
oh wait
its not primary partition
ok you kinda could
did making a file work
literally
just
make a text file and write in it
echo hi >> test.txt
ah crap
yeah uhhh
if we're still doing crystal its fine but reboot to windows and resize the shit
or use gparted live from a usb (safer prob)
if youre doing it from windows i reccomend paragon
yeah but atleast we know how to make it work
install pkg
rmmod b43
rmmod ssb
rmmod bcma
modprobe wl
ight
yeah paragon makes good shit
they contributed their ntfs driver to the linux kernel last year
fake banner?
always does
to load or resize?
resize will take a long time
oh weird
restart it ig
2if this doesnt work grab another usb and throw gparted liv eon it
or endeavouros iso since it has gparted on it
scenic osprey
What?
ok but reccomending beta software to someone new to linux
like wtf
why the hell would you do that
restive acorn
ok but reccomending beta software to someone new to linux
They are new to Linux?
Oh I didn't know
Lol
restive acorn
I thought they were just looking for a new distri
*distro
But uh
Crystal stable release should be super soon
Probs this month
scenic osprey
idk just
are you sure you want to do crystal lol
endeavouros has a lot of desktop choice and a working partition thing
and isnt insanely new
and still arch based
meager tide
yeah please lord use endeavour
crystal looks cool but not fully finished yet 
i mean unless you wanna dive off the deepend and just install raw arch
i mean to be entirely fair
archinstall exists now
scenic osprey
never tried archinstall lol
meager tide
apparently its actually gotten pretty good
scenic osprey
i used zen installer once but nowdays i just manually pacstrap
you will likely have same issue but fix it same way
BUT
meager tide
inb4 use ubuntu
scenic osprey
you will need diff package ver
once you get in send the uname -a and ill find the v ersion
ubuntu is hell
you love snap
meager tide
endeavour is on 6.1 now along with arch it should be fine right?
scenic osprey
loop69239890140941
meager tide
ubuntu is hell
(thats the joke)
scenic osprey
endeavour is on 6.1 now along with arch it should be fine right?
no cuz still wont have proprietary driver
which needs to match kernel ver unless you use dkms which we will do once installed
meager tide
linux so good
scenic osprey
dont bother formatting lol
rufus will do
their website is uhh
shit
but the os itself very good
meager tide
zamn that website is terrible
scenic osprey
yeah the site is horror
meager tide
i swear it used to be better
idk i havent used endeavour in ages
hell i haven't used vanilla arch or related distros in arges
scenic osprey
we will make zt remake endeavour site
meager tide
meager tide
i havent had anything break personally
meager tide
my banger distro recommendation list if you've used linux before (do not follow this vanillyn):
- artix
- void
- alpine
whenever chimera gets polished up its going there as well
github dot com presumably
meager tide
whenever chimera gets polished up its going there as well
@scenic osprey loves chimera
scenic osprey
no
scenic osprey
no
meager tide
step two:
scenic osprey
latest kernel
wow okay
not latest actually but close
wait
what
does it work
its in the panel
bottom right
i forgot endeavour ships proprietary drivers on iso and just only enables the needed ones
we lov
endeavour best
you dont need to use this
installer lets you pick
gnome or kde or this or cinnamon
iirc
wifi work
???
best
we love
does it have
wl-dkms
pacman -Q broadcom-wl-dkms
or does it use normal broadcom-wl
epic
endeavour best
resize from gparted
yeah partition managr
oh
wifi is here
next to bt
to the left
@sonic sage
try flameshot
just use gparted to resize it yourself first
v
brb
odd
ye
scenic osprey
Yop lov
sonic sage
sure
sonic sage
if nothing seems to work
you dont have your drive encripted right?
if so you could maybe change the boot loader settings via windows
even though it sounds like pain
you could check if there isnt anything wrong with it
even though I only used systemd-boot a few times a while back, so i'm not sure
scenic osprey
there's no point in doing that when they can edit cmdline by pressing e
sonic sage
hm, thats true
I'm sorry I got pulled into the discussion
and in that sense I only heard till now that "it isnt booting" in a nutshell
ofc if vani can go into the terminal by e then ofc thats the way to go
scenic osprey
hm, thats true
I'm sorry I got pulled into the discussion
and in that sense I on...
It's not tekmal
terminal
it's boot cmdline editor
in systemd boot menu
they can't get terminal
it's hanging while systemd is starting services
sonic sage
does it matter how you call it?
its not like its a public discussion
as long as its understandable
I dislike using different words for stuff that is similar from looks
its like
yea its not the linux terminal
but its a terminal
scenic osprey
it's literally not a terminal
sonic sage
it's hanging while systemd is starting services
you dont need to expain that to me lmao
I saw that myself
sonic sage
it's literally not a terminal
are we now talking about the terminology of terminal?
scenic osprey
there's no commands it's just changing kernel load params
??????
it's changing the parameters passed to the kernel itself you can't run shit from that it just is changing boot options
sonic sage
aaa
pls we just have one common goal
I know what you mean
I just normally dont talk to people that know what they are doing
so I try to limit my "special words" usage to the minimum
sonic sage
it's changing the parameters passed to the kernel itself you can't run shit from...
I know
you dont need to explain me that
and pls I dont want to fight
scenic osprey
... that's insanely misleading though because nothing you would do.in a terminal wjrosk here but whatever?????
sonic sage
come on we are not here to fight
scenic osprey
that was never my intention
I was trying to clear confusion
Anyway I do have an idea
Booting with init=/bin/bash and blacklisting Nvidia might help
unsure if it's gfx crashing actually though because
it's still showing kernel logs
sonic sage
its not really commands though
scenic osprey
I mean yeah but that's not really.what this does but whatever stupid discussion over!!!!!!!!
sonic sage
I agree
well Nvidia likes to cause trouble,
its worth a shot
hmm
maybe? module.blacklist=nvidia
or modprobe.blacklist = nvidia
I actually dont know how its exactly written rn
maybe AAAA knows the exact way / how its written
otherwise I gonna just google it and hope for the best lmao
those arent commands, thats indeed true
scenic osprey
ok better solution here
go back to the edit boot params thing
with e
1min
add at the end of the kernel parameters
modprobe.blacklist=nvidia,nvidia_uvm,nvidia_drm,nvidia_modeset
sonic sage
weow I wasnt completely wrong,
but yeah that sounds about what you want todo good job AA
do you know where exactly to add it?
because you seem to edit your ok quite alot
scenic osprey
its where you added init=/bin/bash
except dont add init=/bin/bash, add that
yop
yop do
vanillynux
sonic sage
great name
scenic osprey
whar
sonic sage
are you overwhelmed?
sonic sage
I mean the worst case would be when multiple things are hindering it
because that would mean that one fix wouldnt fix anything
scenic osprey
i think its just random
do you get a shell with init=/bin/bash
if so you could try and do journalctl -b1
for previous boot
wait
no
-b-1 my bad
-b1 is first boot ever lol
use End key
sonic sage
well I need to let you two be for now,
I gonna go away from my pc and I know that I wont be for help then
but I think AAA will probably find the problem
if so pls tag me, I would love to know what it was
sorry for not being really a help
scenic osprey
ooh
oh god
check /var/log/Xorg.0.log
hm
OH
oh right
is nvidia-drm.modeset=1 in your kernel params
if it isnt add it
(where you did the bash thing)
ok try using e to add that and boot
nah weird
why would it not load
if /etc/X11/Xorg.conf exists delete it
meager tide
wait did xorg break already for them
(i could look at the conversation to figure this out but thats overrated)
scenic osprey
yes
arent they using wayland
if so n=maybe just enable sddm wayland mode
also to edit files youll need to
mount -o remount,rw /
scenic osprey
yoppp
meager tide
i only use xorg because kde wayland is goofy
honestly i could probably use gnome if i modded it hard enough and i would also be able to use functional wayland
nvidia right?
if you have an nvidia card there is a 99% chance that you aren't using wayland on plasma
nonono you'd be complaining about the desktop experience so much it wouldn't even be funny
scenic osprey
they are
wayland plasma works well on nvidia in my experience?????????
never had any issues there
meager tide
personally it's completely unusable
scenic osprey
wayland gnome and wlroots on nvidia is a disaster, kde works perfectly in my experiences
meager tide
visual artifacts all over the place
scenic osprey
idk lol its hit or miss
nvidia our hatred
meager tide
wayland gnome and wlroots on nvidia is a disaster, kde works perfectly in my exp...
iirc gnome has really good wayland support even on nvidia?
scenic osprey
arch switched to pipewire a while ago
scenic osprey
iirc gnome has really good wayland support even on nvidia?
if by good you mean fatal kernel panic then yes :)
scenic osprey
arch has not "switched" to anything <:trolley:1024751352028602449>
as defaults for most groups yeah bu still
meager tide
don't make me install gnome to prove you wrong
meager tide
as defaults for most groups yeah bu still
fair
scenic osprey
it panics when i plug a display in lmao
meager tide
why are you hotplugging displays
meager tide
i guess
scenic osprey
those shouldnt tm matter?
you were running wayland tho yes
so why not just run sddm ON wayland
/etc/sddm.conf/ set in [General] DisplayServer=wayland
meager tide
don't make me install gnome to prove you wrong
(fine just let me update my system)
restive acorn
they are
wayland plasma works well on nvidia in my experience?????????
I use Wayland GNOME on nvidia, never had any problems.
scenic osprey
(fine just let me update my system)
its cuz hybrid graphics
meager tide
oh complete skill issue then
scenic osprey
gnome has support but panics, wlroots has broken support, kde works
scenic osprey
god no
i like my battery
i use the nvidia for games but its also attached to hdmi so
pain
meager tide
just remain tethered to a plug
scenic osprey
no
restive acorn
its cuz hybrid graphics
Works for me
scenic osprey
idk im not trying until another 5 months has passed
i try every 5 months its always exactly same fucking issue
meager tide
trol
oblique coral
WIRTST THREAD
scenic osprey
oh god
meager tide
you will alias edit=$EDITOR
scenic osprey
oh god fuck how do you exit edit
meager tide
q
scenic osprey
no
meager tide
JUST TYPE q
scenic osprey
no
meager tide
what the fuck even is edit
scenic osprey
ed
scenic osprey
we love ed
meager tide
i have never heard of this software before
its not ed though?
it doesnt look like ed
scenic osprey
oblique coral
you are currently
oblique coral
restive acorn
Neovim best ;p
oblique coral
thats what I do everytime I accidently enter vim
meager tide
Neovim best ;p
tomato tomato
restive acorn
WHY DOES GUHNOME GROUP HAVE 60 PACKAGES
Because
Most of them are goid
*good
Just uninstall the ones u don't like
meager tide
i rarely use (n)vim anymore
restive acorn
i rarely use (n)vim anymore
Why?
oblique coral
@scenic osprey https://www.reddit.com/r/ProgrammerHumor/comments/l4jl4j/somebody_help_him/ this is me
do you love
meager tide
Why?
micro is way more convenient for config file editing, and vscode is miles better for programming
restive acorn
micro is way more convenient for config file editing, and vscode is miles better...
Ah I see. I just use neovin for both kek
meager tide
and maintaining + fixing a configuration while fun does get slightly annoying
restive acorn
Ah I see. I just use neovin for both kek
Although I do use novim mode which is kinda cheating :p
meager tide
why does the gnome group include this
why is this a base package needed for gnome to function
thats crazy
(its not but its funny)
scenic osprey
make a new file in /etc/sddm.conf.d/01-wayland.conf
[General]
DisplayServer=wayland
meager tide
okay commiting sin and installing gnome for the meme
wish me luck!
wow it speedran that install
scenic osprey
yopppppp
meager tide
wait why is this actually kinda nice 🤨
discord even works in xwayland (it doesn't in kde)
scenic osprey
it does if you dont skil issue
meager tide
(the skill issue being "own an nvidia card")
WHY
IS THE DEFAULT
BROWSER
EPIPHANY
EXPLODE
restive acorn
Well its their browser
So
Yeah
Its the default
Its kinda nice tbh
I would use it if it had extension support
meager tide
kooha
meager tide
i like how all the gnome software animations are running at like 2 fps
scenic osprey
did you save the file???????????
scenic osprey
i like how all the gnome software animations are running at like 2 fps
gnome issue
whar
how
is there anything in sddm.conf.d
or /usr/share/sddm.conf.d
meager tide
what the fuck why are virtual desktops per-monitor
scenic osprey
that might conflict
whats in kde one
make sure the displayserver isnt in
check that
might be /usr/lib not share
meager tide
okay my official ranking of gnome is "looks mostly usable but i've put too much effort into kde to care"
plasma wayland literally just crashed
like it didnt even try to start this time
it just crashed immediately
scenic osprey
try changing it from 01-wayland to 99-wayland
this ig
did /etc/sddm.conf.d even exist
or did you make it
oh
no dont so you can see if it works lol
also small idea
ok good
can you just
run
init
scenic osprey
mv
yeah
forgor rename even exists
have never used lol
mv best]
try that though i doubt will work
would b funny if it did
ok nvm that lol
juist reboot
guhhh why the fuck is this happening!!!!!!!
how is that even possible guhhhh
god
its always fucking nvidia
every time
its always nvidia
1min
lol people say solution is to use lightdm instead of sddm
honestly not a bad idea
you could just do that lol.
fuck right
boot usb drive up
we can chroot in once you get the usb booted
yop
ok so
make /mnt if it doesnt already exist
also connect to wifi
yeah
then lsblk to find your root fs partition
then
mount /dev/THAT /mnt
arch-chroot /mnt
and you will have a shell in your ststem
ok perfect
so /dev/sda6
yopppppppp lov
you will the yay -R sddm && yay -S lightdm
then the systemctl enable lightdm
actually use pacman notyay
dependency what
remove both of those lol
you dont need
kcm is kde config module
you dont need to configure smth you dont have
its fine if it worked
disable sddm first
rm /etc/systemd/system/display-manager.service
good
reboot
actuallt wait
exit
then
sudo umount /mnt
THEN reboot
umunt
umount
not unmount
lol
HOW THE FUCKK
weere you actually in the chroot
are you sure
because
how
guhhhhhhhhhhh explosion you will uhh
you will journalctl
wait
try ctrl alt f2
scenic osprey
explo
lsmod | grep nvidia pls]
check x log
and also lightdm log
journalctl -u lightdm
scenic osprey
lsmod | grep nvidia pls]
also
thsts it?
does journal show anything
also does lsmod show nvidia
god fucking
modprobe nvidia
wait
wait
MODESET
RIGHT MODESET
GUHHHHHHH
fuck
uhhhh
how to modeset systemd boot
edit
/boot/loader/entries/arch.conf
and add at end of options
nvidia-drm.modeset=1
what is in /boot
may nneed 2 mount
anything else????
scenic osprey
so is not mounting it thats the issue
mount it
then do
endeavour insanity
mount it in
the real one
if it only has intel ucode its def not mounted
non fallback one
wait uhh
yeah do
should b /boot/loader/entries/arch.conf but whaterver
try reboot
uhhhh
why
are you sure it added kernel param
nah
those arent what you want to use
you want to use th envidia one or the modeset one
does lsmod show nvidia
can you try to modprobe it and then check dmesg
modprobe nvidia
modprobe nvidia_drm
then check dmesg and stuff
and modprobe nvidia_modeset
check after the modprobes
oh
OH
oh.
yay -S nvidia-dkms
oblique coral
guhhhhhhh
GUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
GUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUH
@scenic osprey aagaming
you use linux on root account
scenic osprey
wdym
yeah duh
no networking on init=/bin/bash lol
cuz no init system
shutdown tells init system to shutdown
so the safe way to do it would be to remount root as ro
then sync
and then halt --reboot
no systemctl cuz no systemd
wait like it boots?????
oh
oh nvm
right
there is systemd
becaus you can get to tty now right
wait
@sonic sage
if you can get to tty
you can both
su vanillyn
and
connect to wifi using nmtui
oh then use chroot
normal
nvidia module takes ages to extract its like a 300mb binary
just try and reboot
and see if it works
dont modprobe in chroot itll die
whyyyyyyyyyyyyy
gUUHHHHHH
you will the init bash and try ot modprobe and see if it loads
and check dmesg
oh
OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH right
fuck fuck fuck
waylands gonna
ughhhh
wait
oh
meager tide
lmfao
scenic osprey
just uninstall nvidia and use nouveau
your card is so old that nouveau is good lol
you have NVE0
that should be all you need
nah nouveau is included in kernel
but
install nouveau-fw
oh 1min also set nouveau.modeset=1
actually no its on by default
wdym
are you in init bahs
you will just not do this yet and try to boot
try to just boot
also
do
sudo pacman -R xf86-video-nouveau
and then
open /etc/mkinitcpio.conf
and add in MODULES nouveau so it looks like MODULES=(nouveau)
and run sudo mkinitcpio -p linux
need to mount boot
scenic osprey
nop lol i have no idea how its still doing this or how you dont have that conf file
very very odd
only thing i can think of maybe they use dracut??
check dmesg for nouveau related stuff
you removed nvidia dkms right
in the chroot
yeah tjats when it inits nouveau
scenic osprey
just check dmesg
for nouveau stuff
or journal mimght have since youre on
youre on chroot so
check journal
oh then uhh
modprobe nouveau
and check dmesg
did you modprobe it first
sudo dmesg after you modprobe nouveau
oh weird
check le dmesg
idea idea
ok idea
/etc/modules-load.d/nouveau.conf
nouveau
yop
reboot
GUHHH HOW IN THE FUCK
WHY
guhhhHHHHHHH
lightdm log NOW
also whered hang
ok you eill lightdm log
journalctl
and uhh
/var/log/lightdm
like x-0.log and lightdm.log
check both
if both exdist
just show anything useful
god agh ok
restive acorn
Do u have lightdm-gtk-greeter installed
restive acorn
install lightdm-gtk-greeter
Kek
Yeah u need a greeter
ly best DM :p
Uh
Maybe u have to enable it with systemctl
I can't remember
Let me check
scenic osprey
its should alreadu be done
what
that shouldnt matter
yeah those matter
show
check /var/log for xorg log
or x-0.log if exists
oh my god HOW
ok so move the nouveau.conf you made into /etc/modprobe.d/
also
grep -ri nouveau /etc/modprobe*
make sure it shows no blacklists
thats it?
good
is there anything else in modprobe.d
ok thats fine
try to reboot
HOW GUHHHH
am dum
move back to modules load
and try to boot ig idk lol explosio
WHY
THIS DOESNG MAKE SENSE WGYH DOES IT FAIL
GUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
check journal
ih also
in kernel params
make sure iy doesnt have
nomodeset or vga
also show /usr/lib/modprobe.d
what gpu is it again
guh guh guhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
we will do not the nouveau ig
rm the module load thing
add a file no-nouveau.conf in /etc/modprobe.d with blacklist nouveau in it
then install nvidia-470xx-dkms from aur
nostly
but not dmesg
eait
wait actually
its a ti
right 1min
yeah
470xx is what you need
install with yay
nvidia-470xx-dkms
guh 1s
you have to use yay
mount the home partition into /mnt/home from outside chroot
then you can su vanillyn
and do it
@sonic sage@sonic sage
make sure to unmount/mnt/home before unmounting /mnt before rebooting
also you will need to add nvidia modeset thing to kernel params once it works
HOW
yay nvidia 470
install utils and dkms
whar
df -h
its building there
resize then
you are on usb just unmount and resize shit
guhh you will just buy another ssd
right click resize
move / drag bar
if you need to move stuff you need to move other one to left first by dragging it in resize to left
not by the handles just by the middle
you lov
wdym guh
normal
its size preceding that should change to 0
you gotta move all the ones before it to the left
its fine
it always says but its fine
the left side
move all of em left then it will let u resize the one you want once the unpartitioned space is adjacent to it
show screenshot of part list
no uhh
move sda6 left
then you can resize sda8
you need to umount /mnt/home and umount /mnt
then you can