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Anyone else missing their S9 ranked charm and sticker?
a new TDM map?
embarrassing.
EDIT: DID NOT MEAN TO RESPOND TO SOMEONE
can't believe i got excited again for a new season, only to be let down by the continually degrading amount of content released. with the season 11 roadmap being pretty indicative of the quality of seasons we can expect from now on.
pretty crazy you guys expect your playerbase to retain so well, we'll wait 6 months to get new shit, after the onslaught of awesome content we got the first few seasons.
i love this game, but this direction they've gone with the last SEVERAL seasons, my hopes have officially been dashed.
add an emote to this so they bring back BANK IT permanently again please, i know we care enough..
HI Embark W season, but why remove the silver metal color from the ranked skins, the new black colored parts may fit with every sight better but the silver just looked so much better!!! PLEASE REDO THE COLORS I'm begging you!!
The season seems amazing but im so sad they didnât separate the use/weapon and reload/pick up binds on the controller rework đ
Is there a place were I can talk about game ideas
What happened to the mace weapon?
the new emerald, diamond, and ruby skins look super cheap with the black accents, i am feeling scamed sadge
I went though all the new BP skins, the new Sponsor rewards and all the new Shop items - there is not a single cute or sexy item. ("maybe" the chest of the morrigans call set.)
This is super sad. 
Thanks so much Embark for being a company that listens to its community. You made a medieval map. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you! Exclamation point, exclamation point, exclamation point.
Ping bug still in the game. every few games i get 400+ ping server on my own region
So mediums got everything. Cool. -.-
can we please get some stuff for LIGHT better weapons its like yall skip past light all the time
delete light
having a game mode dedicated to only run the new map early in the season is awesome
i love it
also: FINALLY MEDIEVAL OMG I LOVE THE SKINS
Get better at the game like all jokes aside
Do yall just HATE the flamethrower or something??? Why not add the camo to the canister???
What happened to head 2 head?
Stop nerfing light because bums dont wanna turn their sensitivity up. Making a class intentionally worse than the others and trying to knee cap its best play style instead of making the others more appealing is very poor game design.
Embark can we PLEASE have dragonborn skin, my play group absolutely needs it
Why is the Ultimate Tier sponsor Ivada again? It could have easily been Trentila with the green. Please changeâŠđ
Also, please revert the original voice of Valkyria. It sounds different when using her custom Hype lines
I am a huge fantasy fan. So finally getting a medieval themed map and it being only on point break which I do not want to play, and TDM is massively disappointing.
Seeing very little change to sniper is very disappointing especially seeing how making it hitscan again was on the table. Reality is that the bfr titan still outperforms both sniper and ks (which are sniperish projectile weapons meanwhile the true sniper is a pistol). Im not complaining about bfr being useful its just that it renders the ks and sniper useless by being hitscan. Damage falloff means nothing when in range i have to account for bullet drop and movement with the sniper because if the dude im shooting just dune sandworm walks they live. Heavy as a class is already opressive enough with their moderate damage high ammo weapons, it just did not need a sniper pistol. I see the spot ks is in too because i think it would have made more sense if it was pulled more towards the direction of the titan, and the titan shouldnt have been made in the first place. For ks to have its own niche i think it should def have more enviromental damage and then it can also remain comfortably a projectile weapon, without having to pull it close to bfr (but then again why would you want ks when bfr outperforms it). An interesting addition could be the ability for ks to pierce thru thin walls with a damage falloff. Would surely make the ks gameplay with and against it more exciting. When it comes to sniper, i thought maybe reducing the damage to compensate for the hitscan would be enough but then you have the damage values of the bfr which makes no sense like you have the bfr in the heavy. Again this was my point bfr puts both ks and sniper in a shitty position. You can create a new niche for the ks but doing any sort of nerfing to the sniper just makes it more like the bfr? Its a shitty position i think either bfr or the sniper/ks need a major rework. Its also silly that only those to firearms are projectiles meanwhile everything else it hitscan
where is head to head
Why did u nerf demat lol? 20 second cooldown?
Ah
No new melee weapons as per usual, trash ass game
Not gameplay related but, with the amount of cosmetics available, would be nice to have a wishlist kind of feature to have our list of interesting items/bundles, would make it easier when stuff isn't found in the current store rotations too.
the new season shows a medium with a new movement option, with light maybe getting the floating platform thing. naturally, it wasn't fair that light gets to be the movement class. don't you think getting a midair platform would complement medium's style, and a rocket jump would make more sense for lights? maybe I'm wrong about which class is getting which. (ideally light gets both cuz they got scammed two seasons)
edit to guy below me: please tell me you're joking
med got all three sadly
well 3 more now, that'd be great
Just a thought, when I shoot one of those boxes out of the sky with shockwave, surely the barrels inside should be affected by it and fall over a larger area/further away from eachother
new season fire
how big is the update ? in steam
14gb
There is absolutely no reason for someone on the losing team to get MVP. If you lost clearly you didnt play that well
Buff the sledgehammer, and all other melee weapons. I think the nature of melee kind of requires them to be more OP than one would initially think. As long as things like dash are nerfed for light the melee weapons could be very good. The only other weapon I think would be problematic besides the sword is the riot shield but if you buff all melee weapons that naturally balances itself (as long as you allow melee weapons to ignore the shield).
Especially in the competitive scene I can see this improving things, since melee is kind of naturally inferior to ranged weapons (especially on a kot of maps) having very strong melee weapons would only make things more balanced, even if they are stronger than most ranged weapons hypothetically. I could go deeper into the kind of buffs needed to make melee weapons so viable, but I seriously believe the game should be at a point where 40-50% of matches are majority melee weapons.
Dash is never going to be a second choice pick if you guys refuse to remove a charge, add a delay between dashes or make it so you can't shoot through a dash. Handing out bread crums as insentive to try something else is never going to work. People play the most broken shit they can because why would they play anything they would potentially lose with.
Also I swear to god if the double-barrel is harder to use now because of the damage nerf, I am so done with this game, it needed a straight buff so that when I shot people center mass within 5 feet away, it actually registered a full shot, but of course you can never just buff something, you always gotta fuck with damage numbers to compensate.
Can you also PLEASE put Monaco back in the TDM rotation, you probably don't even know it's not in the rotation and hasn't been for like 2 seasons.
Honestly disappointed about the misleading mace skin, could have been something cool and unique but instead it was just another monetization tactic...
still didnt fix defuse time in point break.
Embark,
Honest to god, your balance devs must be missing half their brain to buff the CL-40 Grenade Launcher. This weapon alone is the #1 most complained about weapon in Steam reviews that didn't need a buff, it needed to be removed.
https://www.reddit.com/r/thefinals/comments/1ri5z5a/i_analyzed_247453_steam_reviews_of_the_finals/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
The CL-40 Grenade Launcher isn't meta, we know that, but it is extremely fucking annoying and a massive crutch that shouldn't exist. On principle, it forces the better player using a weapon they have to aim to swap out one of their gadgets slots for the APS turret, while freeing up gadget slot for the CL-40 noobtubing crutcher. The CL-40 Grenade Launcher is honestly the biggest F_U to the average player as it allows a shitter who sucks at the game to effortlessly compete with them at the mid-range. While someone like myself with 2000 hours might not see this weapon a lot at the high end, its made getting friends to play this game unbelievably difficult, they don't want to play a game with an obnoxious noobtube spam cranked up to 11.
Please get your heads out of your asses and start using your brain, at least the ARC Raiders balancing devs had enough brain cells to prevent the Grenade Launcher in that game from damaging players. Just remove the stupid CL-40 Grenade Launcher and move on already.
where is Head 2 Head? :c
Dudebro
Just get better lol, don't wait for the devs to cater to your skill issue
Embark why did you make the mace a sledgehammer skin that couldâve been a completely unique weapon
where you can swap out the head for the secondary to be damage, damage overtime and destruction for medium this couldâve been an incredible melee weapon for medium that wasnât just blocking
anyone can help me im in the loading screen then it goes black, i hear the sound and server connection error
I'm appreciative of the new specialization, gadget, and gun for medium, but I'm a light main and I've felt for a long time that light hasn't gotten more than a small amount of new content, if any new content, in the previous seasons. I know that it takes time for content to be produced and implemented into the game and that's okay, but looking at the roadmap i didn't see any new gadgets or weapons for season 11, and while I hope that is due to the devs wanting to avoid spoiling the next season, or have flexibility in what is released, I still doubt anything new will be in store for light. I hope I'm wrong, but I doubt I am.
I still plan on using and enjoying the new content for medium, since I play all three classes a fair bit, but I wanted to air my grievances before hopping into the new season. Thank you to anyone who took the time to read this, and I appreciate any responses that this feedback might receive.
Why removed head2head? it was great
I love all the new cosmetics, balance changes and new equipment. So natually I was very hyped... until I saw there was no head to head. It kinda ruined my whole vibe and I feel like its an unnecessary change. Please bring it back I begđ
revert demat nerf
Am I missing where the weapons xp progression screen is after a game?
I'm not gonna lie, Starlight Hollow takes the spot for worst map. We wanted a middle ages castle map and we get a low effort peasant village?
Even if it's not 40Âș,as long as any form of aim lock exists,sword will have the most idiotic handling. Since the rotation clamp is clearly the biggest thing that makes the weapon unusable, it should not exist in the game at all.You should just revert sword back to how it was in S1 and S2, when there was no multi-hit. Sword back then was a bit weak, but thatâs okay. Itâs better than receiving a dumb patch that destroys the weaponâs original identity, even if itâs a weaker weapon.
Because you thought sword was weak when there was no multi-hit,you patched multi-hit in.But because your obsession with keeping that led to the dumbest decision, even removing mechanics all other weapons have.
Every weapon, when in close range, can naturally move behind the enemy or slide behind and look back to hit. And dagger is a weapon specifically designed for that. So are you going to add aim lock to all weapons? Why, sword canât look back like all do? Every weapon can naturally look back. But sword alone is restricted from doing that? Why do you discriminate only against the sword by calling it an âexploitâ when all melees and weapons can do it?
Wildly spinning the aim actually wasnât used, It was used only in very rare cases dumb enemies were stupidly stacked in one spot.
If you want to solve the problem, then just remove multi-hit.
Even if spins wildly, theyâd only hit one target. That solves the problem. The problem was solved without unfairly messing with the controls. Of course, dmg must also be reverted. Just revert it to S1.
Why you have to ruin swordâs identity thatâs been there since its release just to appease the nerf whiners? M1 spam on a 150 HP class is not good. Whoâs the narrow-minded person who decided on a patch like this that ruins swordâs identity by thinking âmelee should just be dumb M1 spam?
Why do you ignore feedback from actual users of the weapon, Why are melees being treated unfairly? Just revert sword and melees nerf.
GUYS, all you have to do is turn off auto-calibration from gyro aim, and you've fixed it. Fortnite did this long ago; why haven't you done this? It is the easiest problem to solve ever.
700 hr light main here, who's been diamond multiple times and been playing light since the betas. I was a bit disappointed with the lack of meaningful changes/reworks for light. To talk about the spec changes, this won't do anything to pick rates. The reason dash is always picked is because the other options are just plain weak. Embark, you need to stop making tiny microtweaks to things and make actual changes and reworks to the game. The reason this game feels so stale is that each season things only change by a tiny bit. Players will NOT come back to this game unless BIG changes are made. Because adding a gun or new TDM map simply is not interesting enough
Alright, first thoughts. The new Starlight map is utterly dogshit for attackers considering you spawn in an OPEN FIELD in front of the defenders
Invis is buffed and thermal is still nowhere to be seen?
Please make the chimera hold down instead of spam click my finger hurts
where is h2h?
Melee on heavy is extremely painful with the new medium spec, even as someone with thousands of hours on hammer, it is near impossible to play against when there is a coordinated team
Got work before I can play but reading the patch notes...Ngl kinda dissapointed for their "biggest season ever". New map is a tdm map, balance changes are pretty much all just "we made lights easier to hit", mace is just a riot shield skin, More end of Match bloat, Only new stuff for medium and counters for melee. Qol stuff does sound pretty good tho I guess.
Can we get a werewolf body type or body paint skin. I want to play as a werewolf in tactical gear.
Just played my first game of ranked cashout today and got totally harassed for absolutely no reason. I was solo queue and I got a 2 stack of racist totally out of line players that overstepped every boundary. Leaving vc only to get constantly bombarded with hate messages & gameplay harassment. Refusing to revive, tbagging my body, and understandably I told them itâs not cool and to just stop they found some heightened leverage over me as a person. Dunno, I reported them⊠but I doubt any actions would be taken against them. So Iâm taking a break after that.
And yes, I have thick skinâ but everyone has an off day yk? Itâs like getting harassed in your own home just because the way you look.
does anyone know where da hell head2head went
Where is the discord quest? Its not there :(
well spoken.
Point Break is still a crap ass mode. It's hard to feel like you're actually contributing to anything.
With the introduction of the Reward Shop, it would be nice if we could inspect the skins animations like the shop. Such as deploy, tactical reload, empty reload and inspect.
Really disappointing that better skins in the battle pass you have to pay extra for. All the Battle Pass skins are pretty basic at best.
nice embark now heavy is useless, medium is ganna play more selfish with the new ability, it really shoudlve been heavy with that ball, but now no one is going to heal, atleast most meds, lights suprizingly still got the infuser
some of the ranked rewards seem to be missing. I got the diamond coin, but no gun charm or sticker.
bring back head2head, that mode was so good its all i played bro i dont like the other modes
the style page is bugged to hell with this update, cant even upload video to show it here
Still no simple movement option for heavy
I think it would be nice
Why did you guys make a whole Alfa actA sponsor commercial just for a skin of an already existing weapon? You guys really should've shown off the crossbow in this, not a sledgehammer skin that for some reason showcases modular pieces and... slime?
PLEASE Iâm riot shield only playerâŠWHY are all the batons not colored other than the purple one. Please just make the batons a basic color like the pink tiger should be a pink baton. Please guys it looks terrible without it. If you donât understand what Iâm sayingâŠ.the baton part of the riot shield the whole thing needs color.
Bring back head 2 head
lackluster mid season with bare minimum content rip
we've been in season 8 for six months please make real balance changes
nerf the new mid weapon it's
Season 10 is not nothing, but it is also nowhere near the kind of update that will actually turn things around.
Yes, there are some decent changes. The Ranked matchmaking changes sound better than before, so I can give Embark that. But most of the core problems are still here.
There is still no match history.
There is still no proper career profile with real long-term stats.
There is still no in-game LFG with filters or proper direct chat tools.
There is still no real numerical ping/latency indicator.
There are still no proper numerical weapon stats.
Directional audio still needs real fixing.
The no-shooting bug still needs to be fixed once and for all.
Hitreg and servers still need real improvement.
Keybinds per class/loadout would still be a huge quality-of-life feature.
The respawn changes also do not look like a real fix to bad respawn locations. They look more like spawn-selection tweaks. People will still learn and abuse the same awful spawn spots, camp them, and punish re-entry because the underlying map flow and level design problems are still there.
The new UI/comms additions are fine, but locking cooldown info behind wheel communication is still the wrong call. That information should be visible directly under teammate names at all times, not hidden inside another input layer.
And where is the serious action on cheaters and griefers? The game is still full of people blatantly ruining matches, and the patch notes do not make it sound like Embark is actually getting ahead of that problem.
Also, no, these are not all fresh new players. A lot of them are just smurfs.
So yes, Season 10 has some improvements. But it still does not address enough of the real issues that make Ranked and overall match quality frustrating.
Buff invis with no viable counter. What are you guys thinking?
love point break on the new map so far. The shockwave on medium is something for sure.
Y'all just disappointed a large amount of the player base, look at the videos circulating online and please, please acknowledge what you guys are doing to your game, shame that I played this back in the closed beta 1 đ«€. Add more stuff, bloat isn't the issue as you guys previously stated, it's the burnout of reused/stale content. This game can be much more innovative than just slapping microtransactions in the user's face. Shame.....
I understand what you mean by this but you should see what some of these freaks are capable of with the goo gun.
Anyone else experiencing consistant lags & choppy gameplay?
yeah i think my internet is chopped, and all my teamates think im hacking xD
we used to a get a weapon and a gadget for ruby, now we only get one or the other.
embark fucking fix ur shit dude
Level 14 Skin isnt showing on the Turret in skins tab or overview tab
So far the new season is good, but I'm pretty disappointed that the castle in starlight hollow isn't part of the playable area, it would have been so awesome as the last stage of point break. Also a melee-only point break queue would have been sick.
I genuinely don't want to play quick cash...
I CANNOT BELIEVE Embark made a fantasy update.
How EXCITING! To the person whoâs been asking for it in this Discord for over a year, I am so happy for you. đ 
bring back Head-2-Head pleaseeeee, i can't play other gamemodes
Came back to The Finals, played 2 games where the team got absolutley stomped on both. Feels like the matchmaking still is wack, hard to play for fun when it's not even
I sae head 2 head mode is gone. Why ? Please bring it back i liked the mode alot just for fun or especially train tactic with my squad for last tournament round
Ya'll need to fix the crossbody stuff to work with more outfits. Like half the good looking stuff in this game feels like it can't actually be used with a more diversified loadout. Same goes for some of the head/facewear items that seem to randomly conflict with everything.
WHO DECIDED TO ADD A CROSSBOW AND MAKE IT HITSCAN?
FIRE THEM PLEASE
ALSO, WHY DOES MEDIUM STILL NOT HAVE A COUNTERPART TO LH1 AND DEAGLES?
THIS WAS A PERFECT OPERTUNITY TO DO BOTH
Sad to see that the spear object cap hitreg issue was not addressed. It's been like, two years now. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/929846728176320566/1486779244892786819/fixspear.mp4?ex=69c6be93&is=69c56d13&hm=b9437be8687e192436fc87c24b22b15569778e8de5c2b36037af05c25cc35c8b&
Trivially reproducible just by having lots of hittable things nearby.
The crossbow feels like a reskin counterpart pike but less recoil,sure it looks cool but feels boring.
I always suggested a crossbow for heavy with a scope for long range snipes but it is a projectile with high drop off for skill expression.
U can still make it happen make a semi auto harpoon launcher for heavy.
For medium we need a claymore sword with primary attack having wide swings and holding alt deflects some bullets and holding alt and pressing primary attack will cause a downward swing.
If u manage to hit the head then it's critical damage.
Give us back Ranked Stickers and Charms, thereâs no reason why only rubies should get them
are the servers down or is my internet butt- why is there a 6 hour chat cooldown
its steam
@cursive urchin idea seems interesting! This shit definitely needs to be reworked! Also bring back head2head
this
Can we get head to head back or nah
hello please consider medieval mode with all weapons melee
On top, crossair in settings, on bottom, crossair in game.
Is it normal ?
Not gonna lie I love this season but some things really piss me off about it
You gave a fucking skin, a fucking SKIN a whole ass teaser trailer as a teaser for the new season, a mace skin for a medieval season no less. Like holy fuck guys you did this exact same trailer for the minigun and to replicate that for a fucking skin is so comically tone deaf id laugh if it didn't rip half my hype for the season away. Like holy shit how did you guys not think this would make people think a new mace weapon with interchangeable heads was being added.
You had 2 whole seasons of bare Bones content and we get the MELEE REWORKS NEXT SEASON, ITS THE MEDIEVAL SEASON AND WE GET THE MELEE REWORKS NEXT SEASON, WHY!?!?!
you REMOVE H2H for a map specific que, WHY?!? For the love of God it's not even a medieval mode, it's literally just point break with 1 map, WHY DID WE NEED TO REMOVE H2H FOR THIS? COULD WE NOT GET BOTH DOG?!?
No rework on the ranked gamemode itself is fine ig but no rework for the WT points, in a season with a map exclusive to casual modes, WHY? DEAR GOD WHY? IF I WANT TO PLAY THE NEW MAP I GOTTA PLAY THIS GAME RELIGIOUSLY TO HIT EMERALD, WHY?!?! JUST DOUBLE THE POINTS FOR CASUAL IT SEEMS SO EAZY TO ME
- casual
4
8 - Quick cash
4
6-8 -> make this the lose for point break
10-12 -> make this the win for point break - Cash out
4-6
10-12
16-18
25-26
Is this that hard my dudes and dudettes
The skins are fucking peak but that's what scares me, the skins look like they have so much effort put into them but the season content seems good but not great, I'm sad to say but this season still looks like it's going to be good to me but not what it could've been
Mommy's not mad just disappointed
Also the new dual blades skin is peak so congrats you did milk me if my money cause that shit is fucking golden
what happened
Yaeh that Plat looks bad
I dont even want to update the game after reading the patchnotes... WTF dash has seen an increase in use after you made stupid metas that left only the dash viable. Grapple should get even lower cooldown to compensate. AND LOCKBOLT BUFF WTF it was already too strong. No way to escape other than shooting the bolt... At least lower the health of the bolt ffs. And sonar buff ??? UPDATE: I DIDNT UPDATE I UNISTALLED (after +1000h). SEE YOU AGAIN IF DEVS GET THEIR SHIT TOGETHER
why is it so hard to just have all the maps be playable on breakpoint?
Cook
truth
Guys, anyone has a solution on tfge0001 problem? New season, new issues for me:(
please bring back h2hđ
I think the shockwave should behave more like a grenade as in you should equip it first then toss it.
This has to be one of the best battle passes I've seen for you guys
BRING BACK HEAD2HEAD!!!! PLEASE!!!!
Such a huge L teasing about a new mace and its just a skin đ
Thought it was going to be a new melee weapon with different passive effects
Kudos to admitting the AI Voice Moderation was stupid. Glad weâre on the same page.
This season can be summed up with
Medium:
New crossbow (which is basically a Pike 1.5)
New hover plat
New force push specialization
Light: ..............
Heavy: .............
New map..... for two boring game modes.
And nerfs that nobody asked for.
And absolutely nothing done about the plague of smurfing, horrible hit reg issues and cheaters.
Congrats Embark. Me and my friends uninstalled last season and wont be coming back for this crappy update. đœ
Is there a reason the ultimate battle pass content for season 7 isnât included in the legacy battlepass?
GG W the finals nerf old meta and add new weapon thats is fully broken, im quting this shit
So the brains over there decided to go all out for the china map no one asked for or wanted but when it was time to make the medieval map everyone was asking for you decided to cheap out like crazy and make this linear let down thats mostly open space and doesnt even support the main game mode what a horrible choice give us the full size map we shouldve gotten
my game is stuck in season 9 anyone know how to fix? I already updated it.
Suggestion: Make the grenades from the heavy grenade launcher when it collides with an enemy to explode on impact. Keep the behavior for hitting anything that isn't an enemy.
so light class doesnt get any new things? of course
man i'm really happy, med has felt like shit all last season, i'm loving this
where do I use the ranked token
look in the news section
hover pad = out of ideas
I hate this new map. You put all the effort into fangwai city or whatever, which nobody asked for, but the medieval one I've been asking for gets NO EFFORT AT ALL?!?!? This map sucks and you should just throw a big castle in the middle of it because that would be really cool
Might be neat if you could slowly maneuver the hoverpad around like a helicopter, but yeah otherwise im not sure ill be using the hoverpad much
crossbow should've been a fast projectile and not hitscan 
We two seasons after 8 and this visual bug still isn't fixed â ïž
you haven't played yet if you think the crossbow is bad
CHIMERA-XB is brokenly op
how do you even counter it, its like v9s pre nerf with better hipfire
if you plug a double jeopardy and lose the cashout u lose half your money
the audio in this game is trash and the chimera is op.
RUBY'S IN MY PLACEMENTS THX EMBARK
New map for whatever reason is easy to snowball. All matches end up either without taking any terminal or attackers just grind through without any resistance
how do you buy skins with the ranked coins
Day 76 of asking Embark to add native HDR support to the finals.
Absolute đ„đ„đ„update! Not gonna lie though, when I saw input changes for controller I thought I would finally be able to map ping to the A button. But alas, you still canât do that and then coin after you die. PLEASE fix this issue! I want to use my A button! (LB is my jump)
Game unplayable!! Massive latency after season 10 đ
does the new crossbow have prohjectiles the size of a log or is it desync
why buff strongest ar in game?
Hello guys, I want to use the token or coin Skins on my weapon, where can I find the "Reward shop" ??
Make season 10 for ps4 pls
wtf did you do to the audio it was fine how it was
lewis gun feels so bad, is the gun on the new system?!
Wait, what? Head2Head has been removed without prior notice? đ
Anyone else frozen in a game on the new map/gamemode?
what do you mean "not enough space" i got 50gb free wtf? how big is this udate?
This is amazing thanks for the new season guys
the chimera is kinda broken guys
ranked is still ass
good job embark
With all the new weapons and ability we need more than 8 loadout
Yeah im gonna need HEAD2HEAD back by tonight or im gonna take a break this season
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đ OCE unlikely to experience the new map because playlists other than quick cash are unpopulated.
edit: after trying it out on NA servers (I waited 59 min in OCE queue), the map is big poos. Besides the fact that we haven't had a decent map since S7, I don't care if I never play it again.
đ Very pleased with class/item updates, QoL changes and complete sets included within "premium" BP. (Nail polish, borders, stickers etc. only serve to dilute the value of BP's.)
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Ok ok here me out I have a lot of ideas for specials and gadgets for light and medium but my favorite for light dematerializer grenade
season = not good
2 games on new map and it feels incredibly defender sided like why can they just run up on attacker spawn in the middle of a fucking field?
Embark continues to spit on me as a sword user. Damage reduced, lunge distance reduced, turn radius reduced. Now dash cooldown is an extra second long. Iâm sure youâll fix things next season /s
GET RID OF LIGHT MELEES
They really buffed the sniper rifle even AFTER ADDRESSING PPLS FRUSTRATION IN POWERSHIFT. Like are we fr??? It needs to be tuned in ps specifically, just like the defibs were disabled in TDM after the outcry. Casual modes is whats keeping this game afloat, not rank. So show it the respect it deserves. Actual đ€Ą
will head2head return to world tour soon?
Here's an idea. I've played my second match in Starlight Hollow, it's fun and i'll keep playing it, but maybe, make the attack and defend areas spawn in different locations rather than the same place every match, so it will keep the game mode fresh đ€
Why do you guys hate powershift đ buffing sniper is crazy btw it was already annoying in season 9 itâs going to be impossible to avoid in season 10
any chance of an old man mode where try hards and the unemployed aren't smurfing and you can just casually have a fun game?
L take. sniper 4ever
i hit emerald 4 but get no emerald coin that makes no sense
You need to get emerald 3 for any weapon skins, that's how it worked in previous seasons. They didn't make that clear at all last season.
JET-PACK SPECIALIZATION FOR MEDIUM OR HEAVY BEXT SEASON PLS
I want Head2Head Back
idk if an embark employee will see this but pls add a feature that makes it so that you can go to someone's steam profile via the game. pls add this
Great idea fr
Nerf cross bow / buff flamethrower
New map doesn't feel like a Finals Level. Great design but terrible level. I feel Embark is strafing away from what made The Finals unique. When you guys said the maps were based off of real world locations but with a slight twist they felt great for movement, gameplay and over all design. Now the maps feel lack luster. The new map feels super generic in a lot of ways. The effort for a new map would been better spent on something like Neo Tokyo or a Neo futuristic type of France map or even some thing in Brazil. Other problems i see is with the medium hover pad. Ok you only get one but it doesn't regen at all until its destroyed or unless you respawn making it difficult to retrieve your hover pad thus having to run back to the other side of the level to get it to be able to use it again if needed.
Fix the Matchmaking
New season just not enough unfortunately, the new map seems perfect for point break but other than that this season is very lack luster. Letâs start off with the balancing, changes made this season arenât what they should be and waiting 90 odd days for those patch notes hurts, med is still the victim class, the weapons are very subpar the new crossbow is cool but wonât get picked up over repeater or hell it wonât get picked up over fcar, demat changes were nice but the only changes needed was the removal of the delay. Invis didnât need a buff at all unless your removing invis bomb (still really dumb allowing a class to have basically 2 specialists at once), additionally the light shotguns didnât need changing maybe matter you could argue for the buff but past seasons both shotguns have been good so I donât understand the buff. No winch nerf is criminal revert the stun it allows, cc in arena shooters is hell for players and as long as winch remains the way it is other heavy specs will either be bad or overpowered.
Letâs address the major issue in the room about the meta, the heal meta is horrendous previous heal meta was fine because one class had heals and you had to divide the healing between your heavy and light but now every class has access to healing making the meta horrible and not allowing sustained weapons to breath in the meta since all your dmg gets healed by a light or a med.
Overall this season has started and I can see it being a lot of peopleâs last season ranked is still in a horrible place with smurfs cheaters and losing hours of work for one loss at high ranks, the meta is still heal meta making poke guns even stronger than they already are. We need drastic changes to balancing this slightly nerf here and there is making the game less fun for people when outliers need to be addressed.
Alright, fine. The 'season best' score at the end of the match results is pretty cool.
Well done. Credit where it's due.
How is it possible to have a sword design with two hands for the rapier? ÂżWho was this idea and who approved it? Please, if you're going to add a design like that, at least create a sword for the heavy class. When I saw it, I swear I almost had a heart attack
UJhh.... how do i word this... THIS GAME IS RUINING MY LIFE i've neglected my kids for 13 days straight and this is the new update? I'm planning on suing embark for this... Technically it's their fault. I stand by what I said and this new season trash, i got 9000 hours on record and half of that is screaming at my screen. embark rob knows.
Quick feedback after mysession:
- crossbow is pretty fun, feels a bit easy honestly other weapons in this category usually have hefty recoil and lower rpm. why is this not a projectile weapon?
- new medium ability, this one is going to take a bit more time to get a feel for
- cl40, feels a bit more fair compared to but i'm still unsure about it
- hover pad, great ability, a bit janky to use when on the ground in buildings
- matter honestly hard to judge if the buff did much but it felt good to use and i did rack up some kills
- db, massive nerf, didn't play much but the numbers don't lie, two tap vs H now only possible with zero missed pellets, "range" increase is comical on this gun
- dash, i very much disagree with the nerf. its the only good generally useful light ability, this nerf hits the majority of light players reducing the general viability of the class.
- cloak, fix the underlying issues please, fashion shouldn't impact gameplay
- grapple, feels a bit better but it still stinks vs dash since mid combat usage is hard or non viable. Same here fix underlying issues. Give it a reason to compete with dash like for exmpale a cd reset on kill or cooldown depending on distance traveled.
- cd reduction on sonar feels weird, in my games it is WIDELY used but ok
- thermal buff is good but i think it needs a bit more to come out of obscurity, the hanging structures rework was a HUGE nerf for the gadget btw.
Finally i am very disappointed that light again gets nothing. At least give us IR sight back or revive the corpse that is the nullifier.
PS: how in the ever-living fuck did embark not give us a Castle map yet? We even have a fantasy season and the map is only for the casual modes.
WHERE IS HEAD TO HEAD !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
change the new ranked skins theyâre so ugly PLEASEEE đ
Make it where Grand Vaults pause while being disarmed
the point is to differentiate them from the original skins tho, changing them kinda defeats the purpose
Turret devnote was interesting to read as the turret has not changed much, at least I do not see any improvements if it is supposed to be "evenly matched" with other specialisations. Adding damage and reducing firerate makes it almost the same in the end.
Im not sure how and when were turrets frustrating to fight against, because being outplayed by a stationary simple AI gun on a stick with laughably low damage is not something to be proud of, especially that whoever brings the turret is not bringing a healbeam for example.
Since I dig the "engineer" type of classes etc. it hurts to see turret in a state like this.
It will never be even with other specialisations if it doesnt actually rip your healthbar if you are ignorant of its existence.
Team Fortress 2 level 1 sentry comes to my mind, while quite fragile, it posed a threat you couldnt ignore.
In Finals case, you can dive in and not even notice that a turret is shooting at you.
With the existence of multiple hard counters like the new specialisation, goo and reshaper, it just is a waste of a spec slot.
Please consider making it less of a bullet sponge and more of a damage dealer, similar to mines in a sense. Good positioning will be rewarded this way.
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Give more World Tour Progress with other mode please. Let people enjoy and play the game like they want. No need to have such a low progress if we don't play cashout mode
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Very good pass, specially the premium part of it. Exception with the level 96 outfit : we should have a premium version of the ultimate one, like you should made an ultimate version of the premium one.
AND THE SKELETON deserved a premium version too !
We're not all Whales, think about your regular players please. Thanks !
Why cant we spawn any higher than freakin gold, as a ruby player ive placed a the highest possible point if im not mistaking 28.750k, and ofc as a gold i get in my team all the new players who bump into walls and drop off the map likd wtf am i supposed to do. Makes absolkutely no sense, no games does that. If i win all placemenet dont put me in freakin gold. This game is poorly designed for soloq, only teams survive like wtf is that
The balancing this season is genuinely embarrassing. 3 years into the game and we are trying to fix strong util with hard counters. In a game where you canât swap loadouts. Fire your balancing team
who is the map designer that was allowed to cook for a W map only for it to not be available in the main gamemode, why.....
đ€Ąđ€Ąđ€Ąđ€Ą its fine, it needs a buff and it should have its hitscan increased to compete with cb01 and bfr titan, you guys whine about the it and its been 6 seasons bruh get over it
Having some issues with crossbow hit registration on deployable equipment like the turret in general and jumppads that rest into the ground in a lower spot. There's no hitmarker and no damage occurs.
Amazing Season 10 launch! Skins are â TOP NOTCH â and the new map plays very well on Break Point 
real. Not to mention the new map basically repeating the same issues of kyoto with it being super open ended.
really made it sounded like this was going to be a crazy season with how you worded your advertising. but yet nothing special was done. sooo whats the deal
Please revert the shadow-nerfed Model 1887 Spread Pattern, it makes the weapon already so much more inconsistent. You didn't even mention the changed pattern in the Patch Notes!
Also do something about the new Crossbow, at this rate it's just a way better Pike where Reload Speed, Firerate, hip fire accuracy and total ammocount. It's too much and makes the Pike way too obsolete
Bring Back Terminal Attack, Even as a Custom Mode Please. There is a community that has been waiting for its return for an entire season. đ
New map is cool, but massive shame there is no cashout variant though, especially as the medieval setting was hinted at back in like S1...
Even bigger shame that Head2Head has been dropped without warning, definitely seemed like a popular mode for people with short amounts of time to play each day.
And especially a kick to the teeth after people have requested shorter/smaller ranked/tournaments for a while now.
Pls can u buff revolver in ur next update just by 1 damage so it can 2 shot lights, cause I always get lights to 2hp and never get the finish it's soo annoying
I know it isn't that big of a change and whatever but could you pretty pls revert the cooldown on dash??? 
like I can live with it but like at the same time it just feels slightly worse and less satisfying to use, I switched off of medium after like season 5 for nerfs like this stacking on top of each other to just make the game not feel fun anymore, and it is such a light ||get it|| debuff that it wouldn't really change that much if it existed or not (well besides it being used less which would make sense but at the same time that could also be people stopping playing the game after something they liked got nerfed)
I feel like this can definitely come off as just complaining over something so small but I just love movement and stuff and it going vroom vroom kind of feels really important to me especially when playing shotguns and melee and it just feels annoying that my playstyle and enjoyment of the game can just be altered at any moment and I just have to hope every single patch that nothing in my loadout gets nerfed and it is just sucks to have to live in fear of that happening even with off meta builds
I agree, can they PLEASE just turn the carbon fiber into metal? in the preview that the content creators filmed footage in, it was just dark metal instead of this carbon fiber and it looked so much better
I put this idea out hear a while back, but can we get a mythic skin for the flamethrower that is a magic book in one hand and a fireball in the other? With this seasons theme I was hoping it became a reality. Some cool reload animation where you flip through the pages and find the spell again would be so cool. Hope the devs find this and make it a reality. Loving how the new season looks so far
that would be awesome
Please give fcar 5 more bullets in the mag and maybe 1 more damage.
My feedback. Yall can add a weapon to each class every season. You did it before you can do it know I don't want to play a new class
thats cool but i also want a sex update
Stop giving medium more stuff, delete P90 and dual blades.
Nerf sword
Make a pitchfork skin for spear or I will eat @crisp heart
Chimera is good. A little too good. Been playing with and against it. I think it's a really good addition to the medium that's fun to play and would hate to see it go. I do think a nerf is a bit in order. I think an ammo nerf for sure as I think with the fire rate as it is it's already pretty dominant. I'm thinking 12 to 13 maybe.
I'd like to see a visual aid given to throwable goo, similar to turret or deployable shield. It sucks trying to goo up for a specific situation and having the goo not deploy correctly, wasting a gadget and time.
KS-23 reload suggestion https://www.youtube.com/shorts/L4aCF8Yq8so
add loadout slots
what happened to the ranked skins!?!?! emerald looks so funky now and the m11 doesnt even have emerald on the silencer now!!! im so upset
Crouching should reduce recoil
i just dont understand the whole currency situation, they do a good update by doing things like ranked coins but then take two steps back by making new items unlockable with a new seperate currency rather than sticking with vrs like its always been
Reward shop skins look very cheap with those black/carbon accents. Please revisit their designs, as they're simply not worth the grind and are disappointing really.
another season another one class fav. nice to see the cross bow be another one of those if you run controller your a god. ahh love to see it.
Could certain headwear like Sizzlecore, Redstream interface, parry prodigy mask, etc be made into facewear? You look so bald while using them, and they're so tight to the face that clipping would be very small if not non-existant.
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Bring back S6 contract rewards
Suggestion:
I really like the direction with TDM and I think it has a lot of potential, especially as a more direct competitor to games like Cod. I also enjoy the base core mode cashout but I think we can expand the experience.
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Improve TDM Map Flow
One issue with TDM right now is that the maps donât always flow well for that mode. Since theyâre designed around destruction and objective play, fights can feel scattered.
âą Consider reworking parts of existing maps (not full redesigns) to create more 3-lane-style flow
âą Keep the same themes and environments, just adjust layout slightly for better pacing in 5v5/6v6 and maybe less verticality -
Add More Traditional Modes
TDM is a great start, but adding more structured modes could really help:
âą Hardpoint-style mode (rotating objective for constant action)
âą Domination-style mode (zone control with multiple capture points)
These would give players more variety and bring in players who like more classic FPS structure.
- Standardized Health / Loadout Rules (for these modes)
For modes like TDM/Hardpoint/Domination:
âą Use a standardized health pool (maybe similar to Medium build)
âą Either:
âą Give everyone access to the same abilities/gadgets, or
âą Limit them for balance
This could make the mode feel more competitive and less chaotic compared to the main game.
- Scorestreak / Reward System (Experimental)
Not 100% sure on this, but it could be interesting:
âą A scorestreak-style system (kills/objectives = rewards)
âą Would add progression mid-match
âą Could also help separate these modes from the core experience
This fling ability helps get these flimsy ass lights away from me
Solid update, but barely any love to light or heavy this update. đ«€
the BOW is very shit. Nerf this
Sandstorm Las Vegas crashing players every time that we try to lond the round
Indeed!!!!! Best quick match.
is it fair for a gold team to play against diamonds in world tour?
Make sure the double barrel, Uzi and mp5 also gets nerf
Now that VRS has even less meaning add basics camos you can unlock with them?
CL-40 main here hello
it's a nerf 100%
100 damage vs 105 direct does NOT matter in the grand scene of things.
the splash damage is now 78 ish damage vs 90 damage at max splash damage and obv like 11 damage at full outer splash damage vs 0 before
so yea you get rewarded a tiny bit for missing giga now instead of not.
This is not the way to make it more direct hit orientated since it just was a nerf in general.
105 damage doesn't change anything cause nothing changes for 5 damage. 120 damage is the tresholds for meaning full changes if u want a "direct only" scenario. Cause then the ONLY difference would be 3 shotting heavys if you hit ALL THE SHOTS WITH DIRECTS (gl)
I know why u did it (prevent spam for if you use the hover pad)
But that doesnt matter in high RS lobbies. I got to 47k with soloq cl40/fcar
You would just get beamed there.
blabla i dunno what the right move is for cl40 but you can't call this a buff with how inconstent and buggy the cl40 is as well.
For example: Any CL-40 main will prob know the bug where u are 0/5 shells, are reloading and are spamming LMB that you simply wont shoot till you have at minimum 2/5 in the gun.
U cant shoot when u have 1/5 shells if you spam LMB while reloading from 0
NERF EVERYTHING I DON'T LIKE IN THE GAME
I love this game but for the love of god stop removing game modes after stating they are permanent modes. Dont even say why H2H was removed. Just "Bye"
We need more contestant slots
Second this tbh
Should be enough slots for one of every spec
BRING BACK HEAD2HEAD
There should be a system similar to the Endorsement system in Overwatch. If I run into a particularly friendly dude in a random match it would be nice to be able to give them some kind of recognition, however small it is.
embark make cool skins for non melee players challenge level impossible
"Fixed a network routing related issue, improving connection quality"
two fucking years to fix this?
No issues can occur any time đ
STOP MAKING WEAPONS THAT YOU CANT AUTOFIRE
can we give pike its identity back
THANK YOU for fixing the game end screen. Much more enjoyable and informative experience. REPLAY FINAL MOMENTS.
Love how the cashout box moves now!
bro MVP screen is broken on point break, i carry team, top on 4 metrics and i am not even on the mvp screen
https://imgur.com/a/lqabvLn
first game and already facing a cheater
Give us back the Ranked Stickers and Charms, no reason why only rubies get it now
new costumes look sickkkkkk, good job
bro why remove head to head :/
Embark, Iâm begging you. Please have June announce double jeopardy in the last two minutes for those who canât read.
remove text chat censorship and add all chat
Thank you for all your hard work - loving season 10!
Why 3 new things for medium and nothing for light or heavy
Nothing for light for like 3 seasons and also nothing planed for season 11
But overall a good season
iv been getting kicked from games and having to quit to desktop a lot, has anyone else had this prob
what do you mean they made it so that tracking dart and nullifier can go through your heavies mesh shield thats game breaking stuff
This ARN diamond is so horrible. Why canât the guns get the love they use too with the diamond skin. For example take a look at the diamond Fcar then how some of the guns look with the diamond coin. I love this game but the lack of effort put into the diamond skins keep decreasing by season. đ€§đȘ
So...i bough premium battle pass, and theres no Premium to Ultimate battle pass then..? Because if u have NO battle pass, u can still go to ultimate for the SAME PRICE.....Please give me back my premium money....
Insane you all haven't made point break NOT finish the obj timer if someone is actively capping it yet. It's SO frustrating in a mode like this where the objectives are gone so quickly. The mode really does feel super attacker sided. It's so strange.
Also, if the game modes are going to be this large, I think a sound minimap might actually be necessary in these larger modes at some point.
Destruction feels a bit too easy to do in these modes. Honestly there might need to be a special modifier for these larger player modes where walls are like 1.5x stronger or something so that match isn't just a giant pile of chaos the entire time. It doesn't really feel epic or anything, it feels more like I'm playing Teardown. The destruction being so crazy easy combined with the objective finishing still when someone is capturing it REALLY makes the mode feel like "spam random stuff till you win". I like the mode conceptually, but it could use a touch up.
There's also no timer for the defending team to win off of. Which is a REALLY strange omission as well. Makes point break feel even MORE attacker sided. Like, every other game with this kind of mode (Battlefield, CS, RSS, idk MGOnline) and The Finals ITSELF has a timer for the defending team to win off of. Why doesn't this mode? It makes Medium's defib absurdly strong in the mode because you simply can't put people down. The attacking team is really incentivized to play defensively since they technically have infinite time.
The mode is really fun, but its implementation is REALLY baffling and half baked. It really makes me wonder if these modes are AI generated or something sometimes.
the platinum skins are the only ones without the carbon fiber look, is that on purpose? Feel like they would look much better with it on like the rest.
What do we do with VRs if the new stuff is unlocked with yet another type of token?
at the rate of one ranked coin per season, it would take 74 seasons to unlock all the ranked rewards in one category assuming no more guns and gadgets ever get added again.
this is 18 years assuming each season is 3 months. maybe give more coins out? maybe one coin for each subtier like 4 diamond coins if you reach diamond 1?
surely there isnt a harm in giving out more rewards for ranked grinds right? The current emerald rewards feel very fulfilling at 3 coins per season. Ruby players used to get a gun and a gadget, maybe 2, now its only one reward for them.
server blow again dude
just had a bug reset 4/6 peoples loadouts to the default in final round
Lots of good things about this new season, but for the love of God, please finally nerf the winch claw. The spec has been dominant for several seasons already, it gets boring to see it used so frequently as a cheap crutch to win 1v1s. Remove the stun entirely; it would still be strong when used by coordinated teams, but would prevent it from being a cheesy 'I win' button.
I'm a relatively casual player(if I really hit the ranked grind I can usually hit Plat) and I'm curious of other more dedicated players' current opinions on the Defib.
To me it still feels OP, even with the ability cooldown and half-health. When playing against a triple-stack of Ms with heal beams it feels like you're fighting a 3v6.
I play mostly Heavy but Medium is my next up with a good amount of time on it. It seems like a required slot if you're playing medium. But I can't think of a way to balance it without making it feel terrible.
The only idea my friend's and I have thought of is just removing the Defib altogether and making it so that Mediums just passively manual revive faster than lights and heavies.
Halberd skin for heavy spear đ„ș
awesome pfp
Iâm not used to playing against 3 three teams of three and I really loved head ro head as it allowed me to breath after every kill but yall removed it and now the game is unplayable for I know yall wonât see this but please make it permanent as it was really fun and made my games actually enjoyable
add back head to head
the new spec needs to be able to move the cashout
not only would this be huge for MMM teams
its also a huge enough thing that it might get it picked over heal and dmat
also slightly reducing the appeal of winch since easy cashout manipulation is one of its selling points
What happened to head2head?
where the fuck is head2head
Loving the new season, but Nizomi Citadel in point break has a few issues, specifically the last faze, point G, H, I are way too close for attackers to successfully capture a point before Defenders could reclaim it. My first round with this map, I was a Defender, and maybe it's just a good game, but my team managed to rush from point to point and capture any stolen point. There isn't a lot of room in that area, which may be why they are so close, but rather than horizontal points, maybe diagonal to make up for the extra room for the small map
Things i haven't seen enough praise for today:
- Very noticeable performance upgrades. excellent job, team
- The 2026 Roadmap is exactly what I was looking for and it obviously goes without saying I'm hopeful for the rest of the year and will invest just as much time and cash into your game
- "Don't revive me! changing loadouts!" Would have been perfect if it actually stopped a revive in-game for a few seconds, but this feels like an 8/10 so far, THANK YOU
- The new Reward Shop is great, although some have had trouble navigating to it
/PLEASE READ THIS\
Just hop on the new season. Uuuuh great theme and map but jesus christ, i don't wanna play like a sweat anymore.
There is only sweats in this game and it's either, they are way better than us or we are way better than them. Both are not fun.
I'm tired of multiplayer games that only reward skill. I want to have fun, all kind of fun.
Playing competitively everyday, everytime get boring. I have done it enough.
Please let the industry have different matchmaking than skillbased. I'm tired of it. I want to play the game but not like this. It's tiresome.
for the coin system, its nice we can pick gadgets as well, but please change it so you get 2 coins for each rank, one for a weapon, one for a gadget, not two weapons, and not two gadgets
â ïžPLEASE ADD THREE REFUND TICKETS FOR THE PLAYERS EMERALD COINSâ ïž
I made a big mistake wasting one of my emerald coins on the r357, It was a bad choice, after spending all three of my coins I hopped on ranked and realized that I'm only going to reach diamond with fcar, so please embark add away that you could get your three coins or just one coin back if you made a mistake or an impulsive decision
The game still does not close properly for me after the launch of this season. can't CMD Taskkill the process, can't close in steam, ONLY thing that works is restarting the PC. Same issue as this post https://steamcommunity.com/app/2073850/discussions/0/4041481833168278070/?ctp=3
This has been an issue for me (i'm not alone) since season 7.
Serious feedback on Sword
I played Sword for about 1000h (hit rank 90 with it before) and a few things get lost in the heated "Sword is overpowered/unplayable" discussion.
First of all both sides need to be understood where they are coming from.
Yes in a casual lobby where people don't hit the important shots a Sword that is just running around and left clicking people to death seems absurd, overpowered and has little to do with skill expression.
The Problem is as soon as you cross the line of people investing enough time to hit even just a moderate amount of their shots left clicks become less and less viable and you have to learn combos and movement tricks to minimize the damage you take while maximizing the damage output. That's where the sword lunge comes in. Lunging is the part where skill expression shows with movement, spacial awareness and positioning. With reducing the damage AND introducing a rotation clamp the lunge becomes really clunky to use and less effective than the simpler M1 spamm.
So what can Embark do to fix the issue for both sides ? Put the focus of the weapon back on the lunge to reduce frustrating scenarios.
Second Problem, lunging through an entire team and dealing massive damage with very little counterplay should not be a thing. It is very frustrating to play against and extremely situational. It should be like other melee weapons. Left clicking less damage but can multihit and the "special attack" single target but is special in some way. Hammer has a single target high damage and destruction. Sword should have single target damage on the lunge but high mobility.
The rotational clamp itself got introduced to get rid of people 360° rotating through an entire team for a huge hurtbox and is without multihits therefore redundant.
I intentionally didn't talk about hit registration because it haunts the game as a whole and has only gotten worse in the beginning of season 10 but of course that increases the frustration for alot of people. Like all other bugs it should not be a reason to increase/decrease the weapons power and should rather be fixed.
Changes
M1 Damage 88 -> 74 (one more left click for each class)
Lunge Multihits -> removed
Lunge Damage 120 -> 140 (without multihits and less left click damage you need the combo breakpoint of 138 to have a fighting chance)
Lunge rotational clamp -> removed
Other Feedback
Ranked needs one less round. The current playerbase can't sustain proper matchmaking with 24 player lobbies. Cutting it in half with 12 player lobbies and 2 rounds for everyone so even the "losing teams" play for 3rd place would not only help with players being on similar skill levels but also relieve frustration for the casual playerbase from losing rs in 15 mins but gaining the same amount in 45 mins.
Small QOL Updates You have the so many good features that would be little work for you but would impact the community positively and fill the content breaks. One example would be releasing the collected data about weapons etc. as an api just like for example "op.gg" or "lolalytics" from League of Legends. Collab with the talented people in your community that already built sites like the leaderboard/bans/rename tracker. Other ones would be changing the weapon stats to numbers instead of a vague bar so it's more readable, adding assists to the profile or having a simple match history that locally saves the stats of the last 10 games or so.
please for the love of all that is good optimise your game files, 78 gigabytes isnt acceptable when compared to other games
its an issue thats been raised before, and not really dealt with
Stop false banning people and get rid of ur ai chat gpt anti cheat
Feel like shockwave should have been a gadget instead of a specialization.
There's a new bug: where if you use a healbeam and then swap to a model 1887 it shoots the gun without any extra inputs
Totally agree
Been having problems with getting disconnected mid match
Itâs happened 4 times in ranked now - one time I came back with a completely different loadout
congrats embark its been 4 fucking seasons since you gave 2 fucks about this game. see you next week
Where is Head2head? Bring it back
Please increase the amount of contestants you have to match the amount of specialisations are in the game. So increase the contestant slots from 8 to 11. So one slot can be used for each individual specialisation.
WHY another weapon level? Please stop adding them and make weapons and gadgets easier to level up, it already used to take an eternity to max something out...
well ya'll did it. you made a map worse than Kyoto
Can we bring back head2head it was like the best casual gamemode
Y'all gonna start bleeding players if you don't address the issues and fix them. We know y'all love to talk the walk but maybe, just maybe try walking the talk for once. đ€Šđ€Šđ€Š
What a nice season for melee, now we get pushed around by the shockwave and pulled around by the winch claw
I haven't received the email reward of 150 Multibucks and pendants for a long time. It seems that since s6, I thought there was no more. ïŒbut i find other have new email .Can you reissue the cdk for me?
That new map is rough, too open and spawns are pretty rough starting out as attacker. Especially if the defenders are pushing up.
gotta fix the spawn location for pointbreak on the new map i literally spawned outside of the playable zone , i have a clip if you want proof
EMBARK: This emerald token thing is bad, last 3 seasons almost no emerald winners have been legit and now your going to give them all the FOMO camos? I no longer want to spend money on a game where the value of everything keeps sliding down đ
embark why did you ruin MMR? we're on a generational loss streak and the rounds are legitimately getting worse. we're also fighting the SAME teams multiple rounds in a row???
H2H > QC & TDM...đ„Č
mediums with crossbows everywhereâŠ. this is what happens when you give only one class new shit.
Feedback on the new MVP screen and recap improvements. I feel like I speak for many when the new mvp screen adds a new problem, which is that it makes the game more competitive.
To get to the point, add a toggleable option for the MVP screen to opt for the old version instead. This is because the new version tells the player if they are good or bad, while the old version gives you the basic data and lets you know if you maybe got the most kills, more revives etc. This allows players to let them decipher how well they play. Blatantly placing a player at 3rd place turns this into a forced competitive game for chill players like me who dont play very well. The game is implying that even though I feel like I played well(which is what matters in a game to have fun) The game is instead telling me that no, you play like shit and the other players are better than you.
As such, I hope that at least this feedback will be taken into consideration, and add a toggleable option to turn it off. The old version was much better. Otherwise you might be pushing chill players away from the game, as it seems like the game is taking a more competitive approach.
Because it's the first day of the new season and people want to try out the new stuff - give it some time and things will calm down
let me have more saved loadouts. I probably have 50 unique combinations id like to save, but I only have 9 slots. Keep it as 9 contestants, but let me save more loadouts.
This new season is great, but can we pleeeeaaaase get a button to re-open a post-game report after closing it? so many times I've wanted to check some stats and accidentally skip past it
new spec & gadget are so cool, though i hope we see some new stuff for light soon
Feedback: Improving the Battle Pass Value Prop and Store Optimization
I love The Finals and I played in season one, I wish I could play it more with my limited time, but every time I launch the game I'm met with some new type of update to some aspect of the game that makes me feel like they don't care as much about their community anymore or perhaps they have become too micro-transaction centered... whatever the case though, I am just one voice I thought it best to at least voice my opinions and hope someone with the ability to make change will understand.
Battle Pass Tiers: Currently, the $30 price point for the "ultimate" skins feels prohibitive for the average player. To foster a more inclusive community, I recommend allowing players to upgrade to the premium tiers using earned Multibucks. This rewards playtime and keeps the casual player base engaged. (Or just lowering this lucrative cost)
Store Over-Saturation & Value: Currently, the store feels oversaturated. When it feels like almost every skin ever released is constantly available, it diminishes the prestige of owning them. Thereâs less incentive to "buy now" because the sense of rarity is gone. A more curated, rotating selection would restore that feeling of value to our purchases.
UI Performance: The sheer volume of items is causing significant performance issues. My screen consistently freezes while scrolling through the shop, which creates a technical barrier to even browsing the content you're trying to sell.
-With love, Grey
rotating store would kill the game bro
Brand new season amd cant even break 25k players on day one. Gee I wonder if it has anything to do with the fact that Embark never address's the actual issues (like hit reg, unbalanced load outs, sever lag and my god the amount of smurfing in this game is insane) yet they keep adding more overpriced fingernail polish skins. So I guess theres that đ
This game is toast. Even CoD has more players and that game is dog shit. đ€Šââïž
Suggestion
Random player outfit with favourites (like what we just got for weapons).
If you could then assign different weapon skins to those outfits, instead of to loadouts that would be amazing.
This next one may be asking a bit much, but if "random favourite weapon skin" was unique to each outfit, that would go crazy. Literally perfect.
I match my weapon skins to my fits a lot, and make themes. If it worked like that, you could have multiple skins of one weapon that fit the theme of that outfit. All without having to micromanage them. This would further incentivise owning more than one skin on a weapon.
An example. My Goblin themed light outfit could equip "random favourite weapon skin" on dagger and have it choose between the Crit Writer and the Wraithwing. Then I could swap to Chef light outfit and have it choose between the Ominous Osthyvel, and Three Virtues.
Feedback: Stop indirectly nerfing dagger.
My hope is they're adding the kaiju back into it
Hello, Embark! Been playing since Season 7 and want to give some feedback on the new map from my first session in Season 10. I played both Point Break and TDM, and I unfortunately have to say I don't like the map very much. There's simply way too much open space with things that can't be destroyed. For a medieval map, I would have expected being inside a massive Elden Ring-style castle you can break into and fully demolish, with things like a front gate, or a moat, or a throne room, y'know, stuff like that. The new map is just a village which could have been a starting point, but it doesn't really go anywhere and feels sort of boring in that regard. The linearity of the map makes PB feel more like any other first person shooter. Other maps embrace the chaos of people being able to come from any direction. Since everyone's always coming from one direction, defense is incredibly easy and offense has no variety, in my opinion.
For TDM, the map and its variants are especially sniper-favored due to all the open space and lack of meaningful destructible environments. I suppose I could spend most of the round going around destroying all the little houses and everything, but I have never seen this as a problem in a single one of the other TDM maps, and TDM is my most played game mode by a large margin. Since revive statues have been removed, it is also not possible to know where teammates died in TDM anymore, and I gave feedback a while ago that this makes it very difficult to counterattack without that info. With this map being heavily sniper-favored, the lack of any type of skull icon or something to let us know where teammates died is super punishing, and for no good reason. And this map also doesn't have it's own round-ending music theme. Now that's disappointing to me especially.
(Part 2 in another post, out of characters)
The grimoire skin is super cool, a few friends and I wanted something like it but I hope we get more of them for different things, like one for healbeam or for stuff like molotov, throwing a little fireball or something.
H2h is gone?
My game still shows season 9...and doesn't show "update" in steam...??
Crossbow feedback. Please nerf the range and fire rate. It is a little high. Thanks đ
i agree. embark needs to see this. theyre killing their own game slowly but surely
Do only bronze people test this game
We should be able to put stickers on our revive statues
can we get a smurfing ban please? like idk do something atleast..
Why is Kyoto still in the game
Spawn point for the defending team next to D, brilliant move
Quick Play has become very difficult to enjoy. When someone leaves a match midway, about 90% of the time no one joins to fill the spot. On top of that, your matchmaking often places average players together with high-ranked players, which leads to extremely one-sided matches.
You want more players to join the game, but if a new playerâs first match is this stressful, how can you expect them to stay? I understand that many people have probably already reported these issues, but I honestly havenât seen any action taken. At the very least, you could acknowledge these as known issues in regular shop updates. However, even after 5 to 6 seasons, the problems have still not been improved.
When does light get some stuff. Its been ages x-x
Atleast give back thermal vision or something..
getting really bad server quality on oce and it hasnt improved going into this season. i dont think new players are going to play this and go "wow this is fun, i hit that guy four and it dealt zero damage to him and i died. I'm gonna keep playing!!!!"
make it so we can toggle nu,mbers off cosmetics
Head2Head needs to come back
mvp should always be on the winning team
why
BRING BACK HEAD2HEAD!!!! I thought yall said it was permanent!!!
i got higher everything except support score and he died 3 less times but he got mvp what the shit is that
More loadout slots insted of outfit slots
Please buff demat cooldown back to 15s. Way too slow right now
figure out thermal vis. period. stop teasing us with the thought of it and either bring it back or get rid of it. yall have had 2 WHOLE SEASONS.
I've been playing grapple since OB, taking it to diamond in ranked several times. Embark, if you want grapple to be viable, reducing the cooldown by 1 second will NOT do this. The problem with grapple is that it is only one charge. This means it can be used to enter a fight, or exit a fight only. If I grapple into a fight, then I cannot exit and will die unless I kill every other player. If I always keep it to escape, then it becomes extremely difficult to ever flank. If light is meant to be a hit and run class, grapple having 1 charge only allows a light player to do one of these actions. Until this is changed, grapple will NEVER be meta. As it is currently, it forces the light to run some sort of escape gadget like goo grenade otherwise it is unplayable, which prevents the player from picking up other gadgets that are necessary in the current meta (H+, glitch, vanish). If I were to change it, here's how.
Grapple Change
Add an additional charge 1 -> 2
Increase cooldown 7s -> 15s
I wish yall had leaned way more into the flashy fantasy vibe for the new map cause its lowkey kinda meh, every other map has so much color and life to it but this one just feels a bit deadâŠ
Also I will give my left kidney if you guys make the castle a separate quick cash map
Day 1 of asking for a contract nerf revert (both the dailies one and the recent circuit one)
not a fan of the new victory screens
I didnât get any coins for the world tour skins even though I reached platinum in S9
Its for ranked only not world tour
dis sum darksouls ahh update dawg
It is imperitive that the skeleton head be compatible with the various head and facewear in the game
Add diamond charm and sticker to those who got it in s9, kinda unfair its just removed.
Been gone for 1 month, came back to test things and 1 game in and already uninstalled.
uninstalling until cloak gets a heavy nerf bro just remove it entirely honestly
They should add a skin name the invisible with a invinseble skin wrap
I think embark has fallen to greed. They release a nothing burger map, with nothing but copy pasted small houses in a feild, one new gadget, specialization, and weapon, but over like 30+ very expensive cosmetics? And you expect me to believe that this... TRICKLE of aguably LACKLUSTER content took you the better part of an ENTIRE SEASON OF WORK? no no no it did not, you just CANT feed me that lie anymore. I could imagine that the tons of cosmetics you released took a while and of course it did because thats what makes you the big money. THIEVES. youve become THEIVES. With the removal of head 2 head you have officially removed more content than you added this season. youre pathetic Embark.
Gimme all my previous diamond and emerald rewards back as coins so I can use them for things I actually use pretty please. The new skins look so cool and I donât want a diamond sniper I want a diamond goo gun XD.
Still no proper winch nerf
Guess I'll stay on other games then đ€·đ»ââïžđ«Ą
starlight hollow is really flawed, started as attackers and there's a spawn point in a back corner of the map that's wide open and the defenders just spawned camped until we lost half our coins in the first 2 minutes
double-barrel is even more dog-shit than it was before (from someone who has been maining it since season 4). Great job embark.
@zenith cape it's always one-shot light, I have over 1000 hours with it, its worse now than it was before, and I considered it the worst melee in the game prior to this nerf
dude it one-shots lights and two-shots everyone else as long as youâre really close, do you want the pellets to be heat seeking?
Unlisted winch adjustment, movement now fucks with the trajectory of the winch
sponsor logo emblem cosmetics would be neat to have
I dont know if its just me but i was pretty disappointed with the ranked reward skin rework, call me petty but the silver on emerald and diamond was 10x better than black. My hope is that they can make the new ranked skins silver and the old ones that are brought back to be black. It just looks much more premium.
Having fun this season so far. Good job Embark.
Great job with this season! Thank you for showing medium some love. But please bring back HEAD TO HEAD. đ
Bye bye ps4 playersđ
OMG EMBARK ADDED GOBLINS THANK YOU
HOLY SHIT YOU ADDDED GOBLINS TO THE GAME, THE LEGACY OF THE GOBLIN LOVER IS COMPLETE
THANK YOU JOHN FINALS, WE FINALLY HAVE GOBLINS!!! TIER 80 OF THE PASS MY BELOVED
great season. except for the red lobby, so tiring after awhile
Please bring back HEAD2HEAD. đ„ïž
let us use menu backgrounds from previous seasons or make the color change with the selected sponsor
I have the same situation. The last time the code and gift arrived in the mail was in season 6...
I feel like we need the castle in the background of hollow point as an arena for cashout.
Would be epic af
Broooo the crossbow isnt a projectile, but the sniper rifle is?????????
a real demat buff when?
On a related note, bring back bank it.
can we get 8 player lobbies? Pointbreak is a really good alternative to cashout when you have a lot of people playing at the same time but all my friends can't play together because of the 5 party limit
Hello, it would be quite nice, if possible, to give us an option to convert VRS into Legacy Battlepass Points, this would actually give purpose to the currency nowadays for people that have it maxed out 24/7.
Even if the rates are absurd, it would still be nice to be capable of spending those rather than sit on a pile, buy sights when a new weapon drops and repeat the process.
Season 10 is not nothing, but it is also nowhere near the kind of update that will actually turn things around.
Yes, there are some decent changes. The Ranked matchmaking changes sound better than before like solo queue, so I can give Embark that. But most of the core problems are still here.
There is still no match history.
There is still no proper career profile with real long-term stats.
There is still no in-game LFG with filters or proper direct chat tools.
There is still no real numerical ping/latency indicator.
There are still no proper numerical weapon stats.
Directional audio still needs real fixing.
The no-shooting bug still needs to be fixed once and for all.
Hitreg and servers still need real improvement.
Keybinds per class/loadout would still be a huge quality-of-life feature.
The respawn changes also do not look like a real fix to bad respawn locations. They look more like spawn-selection tweaks. People will still learn and abuse the same awful spawn spots, camp them, and punish re-entry because the underlying map flow and level design problems are still there.
The new UI/comms additions are fine, but locking cooldown info behind wheel communication is still the wrong call. That information should be visible directly under teammate names at all times, not hidden inside another input layer.
And where is the serious action on cheaters and griefers? The game is still full of people blatantly ruining matches, and the patch notes do not make it sound like Embark is actually getting ahead of that problem.
Also, no, these are not all fresh new players. A lot of them are just smurfs.
So yes, Season 10 has some improvements. But it still does not address enough of the real issues that make Ranked and overall match quality frustrating.
The UI Updates to ranked does nothing. There is a simple change, incentivize money, more money equals more RS.
Is there some way to revert to the old tagging system? Every time Iâm dead now, if I try to tag an enemy I just call for a revive and it drives me insane that I canât find a way to change that back to the old system
quick cash spawn logic and respawn timers are so awful now bring back long timer for getting wiped, its a team game stop catering to trash solo queuers
please dont put a time limit on the new game mode, our game was stale mate above 30 min, then the server kicked everyone in the game out, we were all in the trenches O.o,, then it all ends, like it was for NOTHING. All that effort...all our fallen brotheren...died for nothing!!! đ đ đ đ IVE SEEN THINGS
Did yall even fucking test the new crossbow against lights lmfao
Oh they did. What i dont undestand is why they just wont delete light alltogether so people can complain about medium or heavy next. Dash and gate nerfs show the road
All changes are good, little more rebalancing would be good to shake up meta... we would need a drastic gadget rebalance.
BUT what was disappointing...
Teased Mace being a skin is a crime...
Teasted horde - Bots... Season 11 not 10... ( I see that there is an option for bot LTM to be in S10 which i wish )
New map being only for TDM and point break was a little upper cut....
NO RANKED changes ??? no removal of 8 teams to 4 only ? or making it 3v3 ?....
AND what i personally think is meh... I was waiting for long sword / great sword weapon or skin for hammer heavy... i was hoping to see it in battle pass... MISSED OPPORTUNITY... it would be fucking epic
personaly im so sad they delete HEAD TO HEAD it was the peaceful mode to train proprely the last round and if you were a solo player you still can manage 1 only team without playin with teamate now you play quick cash its like a mess no more chillin mode
Sooo realll, i miss it so bad.
its just not nice that they removed itâŠ
pls embark add it back!
no one asked to remove itâŠ
thx for removing the least irritating gamemode in this game (head2head), another reason to not come back to this garbage! 100% sure that the light class with dash will continue to plague casual modes while being completely useless for the team
Hey Embark Team,
Congrats on S10!
Regarding S11 and the per-contestant player cards, can you please consider separating the intro animation and character pose on the card to two different selections?
There are so many sick intros that have goofy poses (due to clipping with the pet, aliased effects, etc) on the cards, which I avoid to keep the card looking crisp.
Thanks, and keep cookin!
Revert S3 Gold M11 back to what it was pls i did not suffer in TA ranked for ts
3/5 first matches in s10 and game still lag freezes several times. No more money for embark this season either.
Even if it's not 40Âș,as long as any form of aim lock exists,sword will have the most idiotic handling. Since the rotation clamp is clearly the biggest thing that makes the weapon unusable, it should not exist in the game at all.You should just revert sword back to how it was in S1 and S2, when there was no multi-hit. Sword back then was a bit weak, but thatâs okay. Itâs better than receiving a dumb patch that destroys the weaponâs original identity, even if itâs a weaker weapon.
Because you thought sword was weak when there was no multi-hit,you patched multi-hit in.But because your obsession with keeping that led to the dumbest decision, even removing mechanics all other weapons have.
Every weapon, when in close range, can naturally move behind the enemy or slide behind and look back to hit. And dagger is a weapon specifically designed for that. So are you going to add aim lock to all weapons? Why, sword canât look back like all do? Every weapon can naturally look back. But sword alone is restricted from doing that? Why do you discriminate only against the sword by calling it an âexploitâ when all melees and weapons can do it?
Wildly spinning the aim actually wasnât used, It was used only in very rare cases dumb enemies were stupidly stacked in one spot.
If you want to solve the problem, then just remove multi-hit.
Even if spins wildly, theyâd only hit one target. That solves the problem. The problem was solved without unfairly messing with the controls. Of course, dmg must also be reverted. Just revert it to S1.
Why you have to ruin swordâs identity thatâs been there since its release just to appease the nerf whiners? M1 spam on a 150 HP class is not good. Whoâs the narrow-minded person who decided on a patch like this that ruins swordâs identity by thinking âmelee should just be dumb M1 spam?
Why do you ignore feedback from actual users of the weapon, Why are melees being treated unfairly? Just revert sword and melees nerf.
Let us be able to trade the diamond/emerald/ruby skins that we got before the introduction of the coin rewards. So many of the emerald/diamond skins from S1-S8 that I donât even use.
I would give up any of the exclusive ranked skins from S1-8 if it means I can have the weapon skin of my choice from the new shop.
Not shooting bug is back again ladies and gentlemen
boring game since season 4 , we got the worst ranked system of the world with afks , matchstarting in 2v3V3V3 , i m not sad to uninstall
Embark, this is how you fix the breach charge
Turn it into a throwable, it should be carried like the minigun and the throw would be akin to an underhand throw, this not only gives it more range and use cases, but also make it more fun, creative and tactile. also, get rid of the damage so i can stand next to it and breach in like a cool soldier, ty.
Embark pls make one demat Charge 15 sek Max, 20 feels horrible
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please embark bring back the smoking guns event and its rewards. Or can you bring back the outfit but it cost money
exactly!! the old skins are so much better revert them!!!!
Attention to detail...
The "Love Line" background doesn't fill/align to the whole player card and is just a repeating image
actually, a lot of the backgrounds are like this i noticed the other night )))):
straight up, triple the HP of the hover pad
maybe tone down the destruction / events in Powershift, its too chaotic
Pls add the
SCREEN-CLEARING BLADE |
VFX, SFX, AND INSPECT TETRIS INSPIRED from TFVAULT on tiktok
I Love this skin and ist Just so cool
due to a new bug in the game right now, what if we added a new limited mode like double or nothing for quickcash, 6v6v6 with 2 cashouts active
No it shouldnât, winning doesnât tell you which players actually performed the best, it is just who managed to get the objective first a lot of the time. The extra stats and mvp screen and âseasons bestâ stats are actually really refreshing, my mates and I were hyped even after losing by the tiniest amount that we were all MVPs, it instantly softened the loss.
Small QOLs
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please give us Direct messages for friends.
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change sights in practice range.
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8 man stacks for point break.
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spin other player characters, or allow us to see them spinning them.
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expand the career page to include assists, objectives and support, maybe even assists/elims with specific weapons and gadgets, and uses or damage blocked from shields and goo, amount of MVPs could be a new stat too.
day 35 asking for a free moolah peluche
It would be very cool to see some kind of social media thing going on both in the real social media and in-game (they're synced) It would really highlight how even more unique and deep this game than it seems
It's a very unique feeling to see players coming up with different uses of the new gadgets. It's like seeing a skateboard gang sharing their tricks like "look at this new cool trick I found!" and they're not even bad too, they're actually useful and awesome.
Point Break additions are great however I dislike the medieval map so far. Maybe it'll grow on me, I hope its not another Kyoto.
Recap 2.0 is also great.
I hope we'll see some mid-season content though as the season does feel a bit light. Maybe because I dont typically play Medium.
The new medium specialization and platform gadget seem to allow for a lot of creativity and its been pleasant to hear the discord server users working out new tactics in point break pugs.
Overall still my favorite fps and I look forward to the future (but the melee rework has me concerned as a longtime sledge player)
frrr would love to see that xD
I BEGGGGG OPTIMIZE THE GAME PLZZZZZZZZ
what's happening with quick cash ?
Removing Head2Head âŠthe only gamemode that wasnât plagued with sweats ⊠Good job đđŒ
Why is quick cash a 5 v 5 v 5 now
Just had one 6v6v6
bonjour, je souhaite faire un retour par rapport au matchmaking que nous estimons trop punitif. nous passons du temps a revenir sur des lobby plus calmes. le simple fait de répondre à une agression d'autres joueurs ne devrais pas nous amener à fréquenter les lobby agressif. j'espÚre que ce message sera entendu afin de vous permette de mieux ajuster votre systÚme d'agression. merci
clair obscur
wow that looks hideous. the top of it shouldn't be all gold. there's two pieces, it should be two tone.
Serious feedback on Sword
I played Sword for about 1000h (hit rank 90 with it before) and a few things get lost in the heated "Sword is overpowered/unplayable" discussion.
First of all both sides need to be understood where they are coming from.
Yes in a casual lobby where people don't hit the important shots a Sword that is just running around and left clicking people to death seems absurd, overpowered and has little to do with skill expression.
The Problem is as soon as you cross the line of people investing enough time to hit even just a moderate amount of their shots left clicks become less and less viable and you have to learn combos and movement tricks to minimize the damage you take while maximizing the damage output. That's where the sword lunge comes in. Lunging is the part where skill expression shows with movement, spacial awareness and positioning. With reducing the damage AND introducing a rotation clamp the lunge becomes really clunky to use and less effective than the simpler M1 spamm.
So what can Embark do to fix the issue for both sides ? Put the focus of the weapon back on the lunge to reduce frustrating scenarios.
Second Problem, lunging through an entire team and dealing massive damage with very little counterplay should not be a thing. It is very frustrating to play against and extremely situational. It should be like other melee weapons. Left clicking less damage but can multihit and the "special attack" single target but is special in some way. Hammer has a single target high damage and destruction. Sword should have single target damage on the lunge but high mobility.
The rotational clamp itself got introduced to get rid of people 360° rotating through an entire team for a huge hurtbox and is without multihits therefore redundant.
I intentionally didn't talk about hit registration because it haunts the game as a whole and has only gotten worse in the beginning of season 10 but of course that increases the frustration for alot of people. Like all other bugs it should not be a reason to increase/decrease the weapons power and should rather be fixed.
Changes
M1 Damage 88 -> 74 (one more left click for each class)
Lunge Multihits -> removed
Lunge Damage 120 -> 140 (without multihits and less left click damage you need the combo breakpoint of 138 to have a fighting chance)
Lunge rotational clamp -> removed
Other Feedback
Ranked needs one less round. The current playerbase can't sustain proper matchmaking with 24 player lobbies. Cutting it in half with 12 player lobbies and 2 rounds for everyone so even the "losing teams" play for 3rd place would not only help with players being on similar skill levels but also relieve frustration for the casual playerbase from losing rs in 15 mins but gaining the same amount in 45 mins.
Small QOL Updates You have the so many good features that would be little work for you but would impact the community positively and fill the content breaks. One example would be releasing the collected data about weapons etc. as an api just like for example "op.gg" or "lolalytics" from League of Legends. Collab with the talented people in your community that already built sites like the leaderboard/bans/rename tracker. Other ones would be changing the weapon stats to numbers instead of a vague bar so it's more readable, adding assists to the profile or having a simple match history that locally saves the stats of the last 10 games or so.
Kinda minor in the grand scheme, but the video tutorials for Cashout, Quick Cash and Power Shift have a mix of bad voice over (earlier versions of Scotty & June feel jarring) and outdated information (emphasizing being able to change classes in PS when that's now standard).
Just feels off especially compared to the new Academy videos
So after trying out for a while on the shockwave and crossbow I'm going to give my full opinion on it.
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The shockwave is great for Mobil and utility something the medium class needed outside of launch pad. It can be countered however but can easily buy you an extra second or two.
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The crossbow is alright, its not the best weapon and is easily counterable but can be used to assist with chip damage. Especially since its more silent it can make long shots easier to conceal.
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The new map is amazing, i absolutely love it.
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The hoverpad is best not high in the air but an extra path for other classes between gaps. However I've seen a lot of misuse on it
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The battle pass is amazing, skins look nice and my wallet cried on the cosmetics.
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The minigun change is a huge welcome. It really needed the extra ammo. Makes people being more punished being open and close ranged when a heavy is nearby (and you are definitely going to attract tf2 heavy mains to the game now)
This is a great update.
quick cash respawns too fast and too close no time to do anything
Alfa Acta Lewis Gun đ
just had a game where the servers bugged out and each team (in quick cash btw) had 5 teammates. for casual gameplay, that was pretty fun. This was just a bug and it ran fine so i think it could be an actual quick cash game mode (big cash?)
Every time I launch the game it says "connecting" for about 2-3 minutes, then gives me an error code and says it failed to connect. I've tried everything, does anyone have a fix?
Don't change the servers, they are fine, shits perfect, performance is over the top good, amazing launch of a season! dont touch the servers!
Add Bonus Pages to Legacy Battle Passes
I don't know how you managed to make a map worse than Kyoto. Congrats?
I looked into my looking glass of prediction and I foresee Heavy getting Multi-Decoy / Holo-Bots Specialization for season 12. Just posting so when it happens I can say told ya so.
I had a 10v10 TDM
a 13v9 point break
Actually peak Embark bug. please add a 12v12 Point break.
why are you guys chatting here dude dont pollute it
I love the Shockwave but I use Q for me special and holding it is difficult. I did try various other keybind configuration with Shockwave on Mouse 4 which was the most comfortable obviousaly however that was way too much of a difference for me given the hours I have with my current set up. Idk if toggling it would make it busted so if that was tested internally already than I understand.
Hey Embark, so far I've been playing the new map, all I see is the castle in the background. I think it would be another great map with this theme, the castle fortress itself. It would include the castle, the dungeon, and the courtyard. I absolutely love this map; this season it's perfect.
I love the new destruction, but getting stuck underneath rubble is super frustrating
nerf the crossbow
fix matchmaking
Please add an option for hud centering. For ultrawide monitors the hud is too far in the corners it needs to be in a 16:9 area. Please add the same settings option for hud centering as in arc raiders
Yoo what happen in the Casuals? QC 6vs6vs6 , TDM 12vs12 and even QC sometimes 12vs5vs3 ? is this intentionally bug from CNS ?
one of the best games ever made â€ïž
New shockwave feels so good with riot shield
Bring head2head back, who asked you to remove it? It's not even mentioned in the patch notes! Are you mentally challenged? That was the best mode to teach new players i've brought to play the game. Full downvote s10 just because of this change
Playing competitive as a soloqueue player really sucks. It's one of the worst experiences of the game. Doing something that would make it better for players that do queue solo would be a game changer. Early seasons really sucks because of the mixed ranges of skill, one match you're playing with silver teammates and against ruby players, the other match you're in a team full of ruby players but gain 200rs for winning a match. It shouldn't be like this.
end the minute long ending cashout and make it same time as others, with all 4 teams there makes it next to impossible to work anything so the double up penalty is almost useless
so exited for this season. only to be met with even more cheaters than last season already xD my god im sick of cheaters in this game.
You've made it so the CL40 is effectively the worst medium weapon by far (before it was not good but still viable), it is ineffective at close range (you can be blitzed by any close range weapon in a fraction of a second) and is easily outgunned at most ranges from medium to long.
shockwave is fun to use, good job developing it! 
Turret buff turned into a nerf because the rpm was reduced, it's worse than it was before đ
Day 2 of asking for pike to have its identity back
The Chimera XB is not really satisfying to use imo. The sound it makes when it fires is just underwhelming (I get that its a crossbow and thats how they sound, but its just not going to sound as cool as a gunshot would), and it is a little weird that it's hitscan as well.
Alternate idea for crossbow:
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Make the crossbow a fast projectile weapon
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give it incendiary bolts that can catch enemies on fire (like the Cerberus)
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give the incendiary bolts the ability to create small fires in the environment that persist for a few seconds if enough bolts are fired at the same spot (similar effect to the fire of an orange barrel)
New Medium Specialization Idea:
Specialization: Breach Drone
Purpose: Allows the remote control of a breaching drone, that is armed with Thermal Bores, alongside a deployable vertical zip line to allow swift infiltration into a building.
Amount Of Thermal Bores: 1
Thermal Bore Cooldown: 35 seconds
Zip Line range: 20 meters
Health: 250
Size: Large
Cooldown If Drone Is Destroyed: 30 Seconds
The Latin American server is running very badly, especially on TDM. I'm from Argentina.
Replace ranked 3v3v3v3 with a 3v3 instead
Someone has got a 6v6v6 quick cash game? It's happened once this morning but i don't know how
so you added a deafening shooting sound to my MYTHIC Hand gun Deagle skin days AFTER i bought it. I looked up youtube before buying if FOR THIS EXACT REASON, (bc the banana deagles also came with horrible sounds), imma be honest, you should be able sue u for this behaviour. Gimme my money back and take the skin away or you guys are crazy assholes. THIS GOT TO BE KIDDING ON A NEXT LEVEL (20$ btw)
suck to suck
My weapon is ready
The damage seems fine but the RPM and range is way to much.
Did y'all take 4 months to make THIS season? I don't hate the content. But you've cooked MUCH more than this previously.
At first I was really happy. My favorite mode is Point Break, so win for me. I'm a medium main so all new stuff is for me. But then I realized all that you changed this season was:
- 1 new gun
- 1 new gadget
- 1 new spec
- 1 new map ONLY in TDM and PB
- A few new comms options
- That's it.
Friendly reminder that this new map is just you putting generic huts in the PEACE centre map.
The crossbow is in too many ways similar to the LH1, like damage and ammo cap. Almost a hitscan too.
And moreover failed to understand the expectations of the community, or at least act upon them.
The fact that most of these expectations were nothing crazy (all we asked for was a map with a little castle with a drawbridge, and the rest of the map with huts, no crazy nerf or buff, no crazy new mechanic, just that.) makes this even worse.
I love this update personally, but it's way too lacking after a 4 month season.
**Ion know if u listened to this embark, but if u did, Thanks (in general) W devs
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Can you hot fix the Sand storm map on las vegas , we can't load the round each time
Really wish to see different types of drones in the game! They will trully add interesting gameplay to the game â€ïž
game became so LAGGY after update, i used to have 80 fps now the game instantly freezing fix that pls
i have a problem when i start a ranked match there is ping issues but not in the othe mods what's the solutions?
Personally the medieval theme is really disappointing, if its something you wanted im glad u got what u wanted (although i think you have bad tastes) i get its a vr game show yaddah yaddah they can do whatever they want but it just doesnt make any sense to me. Aesthetically, they had a pretty unique style and design cooking then to just put out something to bland like how many times as a gamer do u wanna play something medieval like i was always so floored by beauty of maps and cool customization just not feeling theme man
You have successfully taken away my favorite casual game modes for 2 seasons in a row now. Head 2 Head and Terminal Attack were game modes that felt different from the rest. I donât understand why you want to remove all the variety from the game. And replace it with this chaotic mess called Ppint Break. No strategy at all. Just overwhelm 1 terminal with as many players as possible. Rinse and repeat.
I love this game, but I get tired of third party tactics and H2H or Terminal Attack offered a break from that in a casual format.
STOP TAKING AWAY GAME MODES!
Wow, you might actually be the least qualified to provide critisism
Season 10 is not nothing, but it is also nowhere near the kind of update that will actually turn things around.
Yes, there are some decent changes. The Ranked matchmaking changes sound better than before like solo queue, so I can give Embark that. But most of the core problems are still here.
There is still no match history.
There is still no proper career profile with real long-term stats.
There is still no in-game LFG with filters or proper direct chat tools.
There is still no real numerical ping/latency indicator.
There are still no proper numerical weapon stats.
Directional audio still needs real fixing.
Hitreg and servers still need real improvement.
Keybinds per class/loadout would still be a huge quality-of-life feature.
The respawn changes also do not look like a real fix to bad respawn locations. They look more like spawn-selection tweaks. People will still learn and abuse the same awful spawn spots, camp them, and punish re-entry because the underlying map flow and level design problems are still there.
The new UI/comms additions are fine, but locking cooldown info behind wheel communication is still the wrong call. That information should be visible directly under teammate names at all times, not hidden inside another input layer.
And where is the serious action on cheaters and griefers? The game is still full of people blatantly ruining matches, and the patch notes do not make it sound like Embark is actually getting ahead of that problem.
Also, no, these are not all fresh new players. A lot of them are just smurfs.
So yes, Season 10 has some improvements. But it still does not address enough of the real issues that make Ranked and overall match quality frustrating.
The UI Updates to ranked does nothing. There is a simple change, incentivize money, more money equals more RS.
Why did you remove head-2-head???????????????????????
Point brake is way too easy for the defending team, attackers have to do 3 waves and if they run out of coins they lose, thats just pathetic, just do it 1 or 2 waves then because its not fun
~ increase tick rate, dying behind a wall makes no sense
~ ranked match history and graph
~ free superbyte, extremely ironic that embark implemented most of his feedback
~ please make diamond skin flamethrower actually diamond, half of its this plastic black
~ plat skins are pretty bad, just spent my plat coin on a gadget
~ make starlight hollow a cashout map too please
~ why does the whole ranked lobby need to know if your teammates disconnected? they will obviously try to grief that team in
I second this, quick cash should've gone.
This season fucking sucks.
Nah bro, performing the best â being the most valuable. For your team yes, for the game no. There's no value in losing. If a losing team gets the MVP that means they could have lost with or without them. Its a competitive game, winning is the main end goal, the post game stats you see after the game are all just means to the end goal. If they got to the objective first the "MVP" failed to break through their defense. Giving losers MVP is cope to stop soft players from tilting after a loss.
LOL. You managed to break the whole idea of this game in one update. Now we have medium with dash that pushes the enemies away XD Im gonna have lots of fun trolling with medium dash and CL40.
Anyone else not like point break on nozomi/citadel, I feel like it doesnât play well, and itâs made worse with the way the new coin refresh system is in the game mode. I want the old way of refreshing for point break back tbh
Nozomi: make the points closer together
Revert the new coin fresh system so the attackers get 15 after they clear the whole wave of objectives. Adding 5 after every point makes it so if the defenders get the attackers down to like 2, then they get 5 more after clearing the final obj in a wave, theyâre stuck with 7 coins to attack 3 objectives. Makes the gamemode more defender sided now which kind of sucks.
give head to head back plz đą
Pls explain the lagspikes. I have good internet so idk why its happening. Just want to play help.
Hello, help me contact someone from The Finals development team, I was banned from the game, but I didn't use anything, describing everything in detail and providing evidence, I get template answers, this is not answered by a living person who could check everything carefully, please, we need help, the anti-cheat may make a mistake and we want to thoroughly check our account or at least find out the exact reasons for the blocking, we are hurt by the injustice and the situation, please give us a contact of a person who could help, we are not asking for a verbal breakdown, we are ready to fully explain the whole situation that happened, I have over 1000 hours in the game, a lot I've invested a lot of time and money, I wouldn't risk my account.
The match making is terrible , itâs like I get queued people you barely know how to shoot back against clans that are in full sync . Hardly can get someone with a mic that even speaks English
Never mind .. I was on European servers for some reason
Just encountered a weird bug where Head2Head doesn't exist anymore, all the other casual gamemodes make me want to put my head through a window pane because they all suck so I see no point in still playing the game, will be uninstalling until the issue is rectified.
Day 1 asking for more outfit slots one day after you guys added more outfit slots (it's not enough for me)
I think the first stage on the new map is a bit too easy for defenders
The finals on Xbox... mouse end keyboard..
The current mouseâinput pipeline shows nonâdeterministic behavior: identical physical movements do not produce consistent angular deltas, indicating the presence of nonâlinear transformations within the engine. Lowâamplitude subâpixel deltas are quantized or suppressed, reducing effective input resolution and limiting fineâadjustment precision. Angular output varies as a function of input velocity, consistent with residual smoothing, implicit acceleration, or stabilization filters applied before rotation is computed. The transfer function between physical displacement and camera rotation is not linear and does not reflect a fully raw path. These conditions occur under stable runtime scenarios, indicating that the behavior originates within the gameâs input pipeline. A review of the stages that modify the signal before rotation is required to achieve a more coherent, linear, and predictable mapping.
Head2Head comes back when?
Kill the serpent in the garden
How are we surprised or able to blame EVASIVE DASH for being the most used specialization when it simply is the most fun one to use since the whole point of why people play light is because of the constant speed
For grapple to be comparable you'd have to allow 2 charges so that it actually feels like an ability that makes your combat faster instead of a simple positioning tool đ
not going to pretend ik the budget to pay streamers for #ad streams but pleasee pay the TheBurntPeanut for a sponsored stream to show off the new season with his og crew of gingy and officer or cloakzy â€ïž a lot of ppl came from S1 big streams like timthetatmans. Peanut has mentioned he thinks The Finals is cool on stream before and theyd probably have fun on the new map and world tour/ranked đ if there's any one streamer to spend sponsor money on that would be worth it it's him soo many people download games when he even just tries them right now
Would love the ability to preview the ranked rewards in first person before we buy them.
Please bring back Head2Head. Me and many others enjoyed it quite much and was basically the only gamemode we played. It allowed us to play a fair 1 team vs 1 team without having to stress and was a really good âchillâ mode for when you didnât want to sweat or try hard.
Fix bugged placement games, if you did them on s10 release you will get max 28750 RS even with 4 wins, players who played 6 hours after release got the new placement system which gave them plat even if they got first rounded 3 times
Please give demat a slightly shorter cooldown (~15s). And if you want to add Head2Head back like everyone is asking PLEASE leave Quick Cash in! QC should remain the core game mode of The Finals
Erm, achsually cashout is the core game mode of the finalsâïž đ€
(I agree with your statement)
Wait when did demat get 3 charges again
Remove light class, everyone who plays light whines too much we donât need em đ
Nobody wanna play ranked đ i was diamond last season
Huge W, love the new update. Shockwave is goated. I love rocketjumping in the finals. Most fun Ive had in a while lol
agree
Anyone else experiencing the dash delay bug? Has happened in literally every single game ive played so far this szn
I absolutely love the âseason bestâ on the overview screen! â€ïž
it would be cool if there was a random from favourites option for weapon skins rather than all of the ones u own đ€
Decrease the stun time for the winch claw. I don't know what Dev thought it would be a good idea to give the heavy class an ability to stun people, when we already went through this with the light class. But now it's worse because the heavy class has way more health.
Guaranteed kill at this point.
Nerf SH1900, revert Sword changes, buff or rework Spear secondary attack, fix dual blades deflect not working, nerf lh1
Shockwave is a really incredible addition to the game, insanely high skill ceiling on the ability, but itâs also really easy to screw yourself over with a bad bounce (sometimes I cover ground really quickly, sometimes I pop myself straight up in the air and make myself an easy kill). Great work Embark!
so like why did we give medium dash but with util also
Please bring back Head 2 Head. It was the perfect mixture of quick, fun, and not being super stressful. Itâs how me and my friends played 90% of the time. It was also what I recommended new players try to learn the game without being overwhelmed right away.
So the mace was just a skin?! Shame
Shame
Shame
Me too đ
already see a chimera balance change ahead
NERF FCAR !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Add more loadout slots not outfit slots
the spawn are so bad u made it worse than it ever was
My request for a dark fantasy season has been completed. Now, day 9048530958309583409583409th of continuing to ask for at least one (1) hispanic facial preset.
bro are u good? its perfectly balanced rn, sounds like a complete skill issue to me
Please bring back head 2 head
Bring head 2 head back please
Is it just me or did I not get my 1,000 multi bucks from reaching emerald last season?
SorryI have dinner ill be 15 20 mins about
Please buff the ttk on the flamethrower, it does not feel competitive. Ty
hate to break it to you but multibuck rewards dont stack - all ranks are 250 multibucks
Agreed. I was very disappointed that the teaser was just some random skin. Still no care being put towards melee weapons mechanically, only cosmetically
Pls make demat recharge something between 12 to 15 sec instead of 20. In situations that are chaotic like 3rd Partys u basically play without a specialization if u used all 3 before, in these instances the old 2 Charge 10sec recharge Was just better
when do we get the charms from diamond ?
Can we get a jetpack for the Light? Would help balance out the number of specializations distributed amongst the classes and give the Light build another interesting movement option focused on smaller vertical movement and hovering.
DAY 1 of asking for Head2Head to be added back
Crossbow does damage way too quickly for how accurate it is. Repeater already deleted Lights, but now itâs more oppressive than the Repeater. The fire rate for the crossbow is way too fast for a weapon that does 50 damage a shot; why use Pike?
With Repeater you at least you get enough time between shots to react and attempt to evade the second shot.
Bleh
Loving the game guys but now that we have so many options to build with could we pleeeeease get more contestant slots? I play with all eight of my contestants pretty regularly and want to try every more play styles!
Someone's on something
Hey Embark,
I think a gamemode that could be cool is something like Oddball from halo.
Steal a cash box at the center of the map and siphon money out of it until you win, canât shoot while holding the box.
Maybe free for all of 4 teams of 3!
please add something to prevent attackers in Point Break just sitting in spawn until server timeout, its an insane waste of everyone's time and really ruins the mode.
yo ngl p90 was the way last ssn
Nice guys.... Fix Gyro
They removed this map, but it is still trying to put our ranked game in it so it is just stuck on the loading screen, great to just get to the finals and then get kicked from last match because the game can't send you to the next map
I am in your enemy team (I think) and we are also in loading screen
Hey embark, wtf why disable the finals for ps4 players? Just why
hahaha
lmao
i really like model 1887 thanks
I agree they should buff model by 1 more damage per pellet and then also bring back bank it
Read the damn patch note and get your answers they already said it would happen in season 10 back in 8,9
Rework me
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I showed a friend a screenshot of my character with the new elf face - his answer was "lmao goofy ass face"... I'm heartbroken.
Embark, please make the faces finally "good looking"... this is driving more players away than you think.
Where horse mask for Chevalry seasson
Playing this game without having Nvidia RTX global illumination on is a big disadvantage for people like me who's GPU doesn't support ray tracing, they need to provide an alternative on this else im basically blind inside a houseđ
I had an issue where the game didn't connect me to a cash out. the new map also is very unfriendly to the barricade there are alot of weird spots that it doesn't deploy where you would think it would. Personal gripe, the new specialty having 2 changes is insane I think it makes defending the cashouts kinda so simple low key not to say goo, or stun doesn't do similar but goo gun has alot less versatility compared to the new specialty.
Crossbow is the most op shit get it gone asap nobody asked for it just throwing away this game by adding more and more toxic over powered bs then take months to finally get it balanced or just nerf it into the ground so itâs not usable anymore absolutely sad and can we finally address thermal vision or is it just gonna sit there while you guys bring out more gadgets and more abilities instead of fixing the ones that are already there
guys why is the season 104 days long instead of 84 days?
plz lemme turn my old diamond/emerald stuff into coins !!!
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IF A RANDOM TEAMMATE QUITS AFTER THE FIRST FEW MINUTES (OR EVEN IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROUND) I SHOULDNT BE PENALIZED!!! THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN FIXED AGES AGO.
Stop making Medium even more meta.
Guys, isn't it funny that Embark shows who's in a party so Embark can expose just how bad its matchmaking is? Itâs great that theyâre punishing the majority of players just because a few shitty losers need instant queues
Stacking is a cheat code, because you donât play against stacks yourself
And to everyone spreading this bullshit: go find a group
NO, GROUPS SHOULD PLAY AGAINST GROUPS, JUST LIKE IN EVERY OTHER FUCKING GAME!
if the game stays this way, it will never have a bigger playerbase
hold on embark, did i just finally see the finals ad on yt?!?!?!?
Reposting this because the message stands
Please make crossbow an actual crossbow instead of a better pike
Mediums are way over tuned right now
Nice job Embark, from the 10 players i got to try the game only 2 stayed in S9, and now they are uninstalling because you've removed Head2Head when nobody asked for, plus you also hidden this change from the patch notes because you knew you are shooting yourself on the foot again.
Head2Head was removed because it's player count was way smaller compared to the other modes.
It's literally just quick cash with two players... which feels lacking.
Please let me offset my HUD. With the janky audio I can barely tell I'm being hit until I'm already dead with my healthbar in another postcode on my ultrawide
hello:
- make hover board on cooldown like jump pad or maybe make it move forward
- add naming loadout as qol
cheers
Iâm glad embark added like 90% of what we asked for, itâs nice to see a game that listens to its players
so can we actually axe winch yet cc in games is not fun
Fix Rank please other than that game feels amazing! Thank you so much for listening to MOST of the queries đ Hoping season 12 will get the recognition this game deserves!!
Serious feedback on Sword
I played Sword for about 1000h (hit rank 90 with it before) and a few things get lost in the heated "Sword is overpowered/unplayable" discussion.
First of all both sides need to be understood where they are coming from.
Yes in a casual lobby where people don't hit the important shots a Sword that is just running around and left clicking people to death seems absurd, overpowered and has little to do with skill expression.
The Problem is as soon as you cross the line of people investing enough time to hit even just a moderate amount of their shots left clicks become less and less viable and you have to learn combos and movement tricks to minimize the damage you take while maximizing the damage output. That's where the sword lunge comes in. Lunging is the part where skill expression shows with movement, spacial awareness and positioning. With reducing the damage AND introducing a rotation clamp the lunge becomes really clunky to use and less effective than the simpler M1 spamm.
So what can Embark do to fix the issue for both sides ? Put the focus of the weapon back on the lunge to reduce frustrating scenarios.
Second Problem, lunging through an entire team and dealing massive damage with very little counterplay should not be a thing. It is very frustrating to play against and extremely situational. It should be like other melee weapons. Left clicking less damage but can multihit and the "special attack" single target but is special in some way. Hammer has a single target high damage and destruction. Sword should have single target damage on the lunge but high mobility.
The rotational clamp itself got introduced to get rid of people 360° rotating through an entire team for a huge hurtbox and is without multihits therefore redundant.
I intentionally didn't talk about hit registration because it haunts the game as a whole and has only gotten worse in the beginning of season 10 but of course that increases the frustration for alot of people. Like all other bugs it should not be a reason to increase/decrease the weapons power and should rather be fixed.
Changes
M1 Damage 88 -> 74 (one more left click for each class)
Lunge Multihits -> removed
Lunge Damage 120 -> 140 (without multihits and less left click damage you need the combo breakpoint of 138 to have a fighting chance)
Lunge rotational clamp -> removed
Other Feedback
Ranked needs one less round. The current playerbase can't sustain proper matchmaking with 24 player lobbies. Cutting it in half with 12 player lobbies and 2 rounds for everyone so even the "losing teams" play for 3rd place would not only help with players being on similar skill levels but also relieve frustration for the casual playerbase from losing rs in 15 mins but gaining the same amount in 45 mins.
Small QOL Updates You have the so many good features that would be little work for you but would impact the community positively and fill the content breaks. One example would be releasing the collected data about weapons etc. as an api just like for example "op.gg" or "lolalytics" from League of Legends. Collab with the talented people in your community that already built sites like the leaderboard/bans/rename tracker. Other ones would be changing the weapon stats to numbers instead of a vague bar so it's more readable, adding assists to the profile or having a simple match history that locally saves the stats of the last 10 games or so.
there is not a SINGLE season 10 reward or battle pass unlock that I want, not a single one. đ
roll on season 10, and I've not even played a round in season 10 yet...
i play with scar and i'd say its really strong lol
Nerf the crossbow.
Hitscan and the current firerate is insane for such a weapon.
Nerf pyro grenade, increase the cooldown.
Delete nullifier.
It would be super cool to have the option to change the animation for the quick melee (like for example a slap animation)
please add magnifex sight to other guns too
this game has become the biggest sweatfest.
I thought about this seasons ago, Embark could add tons of cool animations that would easily sell at 100-300 MB.
Honestly Embark has done a good job on many aspects for the launch of this season, but the Chimera-XB is a HUGE disappointment. It gives the impression that any sense of balance has been forgotten/ignored when designing the weapon.
You can't possibly give the same gun such a low recoil, tight hipfire accuracy, high ROF, high ammo capacity with 40+ damage... Using any other Medium weapon feels like a chore. Why would I put up with the FCAR and its annoying recoil pattern, or sweat trying to hit every shot with the R357 or CB-01, when I can just use the Chimera and spam LMB at the enemy without even needing to ADS ? It's just effortless.
I haven't checked the actual stats, I suppose the Chimera has worse optimal TTK than some Medium weapons, but optimal TTK is rarely every reached in any fight as per Embark's devs own words in the patch note.
This thing really needs to be reworked.
OPTIMIZE THIS GAMEEEEEEE PLZZZZZZZZZZZ I BEG BRO I BEGGING SO BAD OPTIMIZE THE GAME
Day 77 of asking Embark to add native HDR support to the finals.
embark is everything ok in your head? giving medium basically multi-use dash that throws people and gadgets. why we giving a suppot class light level movement and nerfing lights movement that already is trackable
I canât figure out why but for the ranked skins I canât see the carbon texture I have changed my settings up and down reset my game a million times and itâs not just me other friends canât see it either but some can so idk I can see it in the side medeum where it shows the skin but the texture does not show
Please fix your matchmaking; it's unacceptable that bronze players are up against top 500 players and E Sport players. It's completely broken.
Map voting is a win-win. Please start experimenting with map bans in Ranked only, then bring it to QP in the form of votes. U can do it like overwatch too. Gives you more stats on the popular arenas
nerf crossbow
Imo the damage is not really an issue, having played it a lot, and also played a lot against it. sword takes a lot of skill to master, so it being high-reward is fine. the main issue i think is the lunge multihit. especially given sledge cant multihit with either
does the new season run 15-20 fps slower than the last season. i used to hit 70-90 fps consistantly now only hit 50 and down to 30 when any distruction happens
Real đ„
(And we get 1x optics on it) đ„Žđ
I used to play s1 with zero performance issues and high frames off of my dorm wifi that got like 5gbps. Now My wifi is well over 50gbps on a bad day, and now I cant play the finals at all without experiencing low frames and constant lag. Even moist critical has called out how bad the games performance has gotten
buff pike (50 dmg per shot and 45m falloff start range) and add a separate solo only q in ranked
Day 2 of asking for a contract nerf revert
Bring back 3k dailies and 600 fan circuit contracts đ
Buff audio
Bring back h2h please Embark đđ
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Add projectile behavior and bullet drop near max range for all guns, just like KS23 and SR84. This will make it easier for teams to fight campers guarding cashout stations in open areas
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Add 40 damage to direct hits with MGL32, letting it break arena props and shields while also rewarding accurate body hits
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Add a midair detonation trigger for MGL32 and CL40 with aim button, allowing for early detonation of the shots at 50% damage so that they can still be useful when out of position
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Make all Pike .556 scopes available for the SR84, and vice versa
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Give Pike to Heavy. Pike is a weak weapon and Crossbow is a straight-up better that it semi-auto marksman weapon. The low dps on Pike would be a better fit on Heavy class, bridging the gap between the Akimbo and Titan
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Make KS23's hipfire accurate like all other shotguns, lack of headshot and hitscan already makes it too weak and unreliable compared to Akimbo and BFR
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Remove the last 2 spins on Spear's heavy attack, or better yet, turn it into a charged spear throw with more damage than the Bow but shorter range, longer chargeup and slower recovery
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Hide kill noises and scoreboard notifications for Dagger backstab eliminations
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Rework Cloaking Device into a Phasing Device, which also lets users move through walls at a massive energy cost, adding useful mobility tech
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Rework Guardian Turret to instead deploy 2 smaller turrets with less health, damage and cooldown
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Add a 20 damage explosion to gas burns, making gas+fire loadouts actually useful for offense
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Let explosions and destructions create craters on the ground as makeshift covers in open areas, allowing for trench warfare similar to BF6
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Add knockback to explosive self-damage, allowing for tricks like Rocket Jumping and Nade Boosting from TF2
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Add double jumps, wall running and wall kicks for all classes, like Titanfall
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Remove ADS slow for shotguns, since they don't gain accuracy on aim anyways
Embark,
- Make it so that when you hold the shockwave in hand, you can cancel it, preferably with the right mouse button.
- At the end of the match, when the top 3 players are shown, have them stand in the emote stance (which they chose, as it was in Season 9), and not in the standard pose with a weapon.
please embark
Personally, I think the new crossbow is a lazy addition to the game, overpowered, and needs a nerf. It is unironically just a better LH1. Lights SHOULD have the edge on dps across all classes due to being literally one shot by like 10 sources. WHY would you skin a gun from the light class and IMPROVE it, and then hand it to the class with the widest and most impactful utility options in the game. I genuinely think that just bumping the damage down a bit and slowing its projectile speed would balance it out fine. META weapon out of the gate smh. It was bad enough to have thermal disabled. Now this? Breaking my heart guys </3
Quick Cash should be able to tie if time runs out, so boring going against teams who cashout first then just stall the vault until time runs out
how does people playhing in the same team get placed in different ranks like me and my friend were so exicted to play just foir our session to be cut short because he got placed in bronze and i got placed in gold. I dont understand how as we played all 4 placement matches together can someome pls explain cuz its a big bummer. And before you say he got carried we had simmilar scores. I got to plat last season and he didnt play ranked. Does placement matches mean diddly squat or what
I fell that MVP is bugged o need to be explained I was 2 MVP protecting the cash and killing enemies teams
Bro how are my teammates always so much worse than me despite being a higher rs than me
Bruh THIS AGAIN
You got rid of H2H? What a joke. The only casual match that was any fun.
nothing says well made map like spawning in enemy territory and instadying đ
iv been having that problem aswell fairly frequently, and also the game telling me that there's an unallowed game file? i dont rly know what that implies to
for all the people pissed about H2H being removed, where was your energy when TA got removed? make the point about not removing gamemodes to embark
hey guys, great fan of The Finals here, first of all thank you for that great great game! I really appreciate all the effort you put in this project and it delights my every day.
BUT... I have a problem. I am colorblind. That is, I confuse colours, specially the similar ones. And your colour decisions are... let's say very creative. I do love the colourfulnes of the game, but there is no way for me to differenciate between all the teams. I could break that down for you in all colorblind modes, but I'll just stick to the example of having yellow and bright orange as enemy colours, or purple and blue. Most of the time I can't make out which enemy team to shoot, or if they even are my team members or not. Add that to the fact that you do not simply put a colour filter on the colours in the game, but actively change the team's colours from purple to yellow for example, makes teammate's callouts irritating and frustating. I do not unterstand why you chose such confusing colours, I don't think it's necessary and it in fact lowers the gameplay experience and the fun I'm having by a chunk!
I heared similar complaints by other people who aren't even colourblind. Can you adjust the colours to 4 standart, easily distinguishable colours, like blue / pink / deep orange / dark green / light turquoise / bright yellow / even try white? Or, since the callouts get confused anyway, let us set our own colours?
I am really hoping you'll adress that issue and make your game more accessible for everyone, increasing the fun for everyone. Thank you so much already and again, thank you for The Finals! Keep up the good work! <3, Seraph
In the new ranked system whatever your goal is should involve positive rank progress. Its dumb having a goal set at a level where you are going to lose RS if you achieve it
was just coming here to talk about this. H2H was easily my favorite gamemode. QC/Cashout is way too chaotic. I only play H2H and TDM. now I guess I only play TDM
brother, in my three ranked matches today, I got a dumbass and a disconnect as teammates every time
please bring head to head back my friends are quitting because of it

Does anyone think the group should be removed in casual game modes? Or at the very least filter out
Matchmaking still broken. GG
Nerf the damn cross bow. Every single lobby I get into Iâm being spammed
People werent mad about TA being removed because TA was shit. And didnât fit the game. And also almost single-handedly killed the game in s3
Cheaters and smurfs galore! its really bad every game has at least one. Just did a match with a cheating stack. all low level accounts.
Just came across the âplay stylesâ screen. Great Idea. The game is playing fantastic! Great new season!
We have rain now on consoles? AMAZING
Still no winch nerf
HOW
the compact reflector for the lewis gun should be smaller cus its so faaaat
BRING BACK HEAD 2 HEAD
what a great welcome back to the finals.
first game today. 2 cheaters in the same lobby. HS aim bot.
thanks embork. you really set the mood to come back to this hell hole of a game
there's a weird laggy rubber banding type of bug rn, hard to describe but sort of like a stutter - noticed it on new map
Am I the only one who as litterally never found someone hacking?
Im little bit scared of investing money into the game after multiple players that were not hacking were banned permanently... lost everything and were not unbanned yet.
There's nowhere to have a casual game of cash out now!!
Q/C used to offer this. You could hop on & have 15-30 min of Cash-Out paced games. It was sweaty it was awesome. Spawn timers got changed to waves & completely changed the game mode.
Hearts were broken & we were forced into 40 minute Cash Out tournaments if you wanted those fights and that pacing.
H2H was the only casual game mode where you can have those long drawn-out fights. You took our boss battles away from us EMBARK.
H2H>TDM & Q/C
Hey, First time im writing something đ
But i have a big wish adn maybe i am the only one that misses something like that. i wish that we could have an Area or Hub (like Penglai in Naraka) where we just can hangout and chill together, where we can emote each other or invite to partys, or just to meet each other and have a break from playing ^^
Because i have seen it in Naraka and i love it ^^ I wished that more spaces like this would exist ^^
its been like a day since the new season dropped, nobody has used it yet unless they are day 1's of the season lol
still kinda crazy we dont get to look at previous match stats
Just had a round of point break where the enemy team just sat behind their spawn and ran out the server's limit (literally how long the server stays up).
Point break NEEDS a time limit, crazy it doesn't have one.
Game desperately needs cheater reviewing like in counter strike.
can i not get new players as teammates when getting thrown against diamonds
or is tha too much to ask for
Olas mexicanas
Nerf the crossbow, it's ridiculous
bring back head2head
bring back the option for controllers to have interact on Y/triangle without having the main weapon layered onto the same bind, this isn't helpful when trying to open doors or use zip, especially when the equipment wheel exists, there used to be an option for it that was unbound by default but it was removed for no reason.
why does this game play like League of Legends now, the ttk feels abysmal, and why do almost all the guns feel so clunky now when they didnt, i pull out a pistol and it feels like im trying to pull it out of a bucket of syrup. There are no melee players anymore, its all just constant Ar useage, no ones using fun weapons. Esports straight up killed this game, just like every other game that gives into that slop rather than just making a fun game
I think the next level way to improve the contestant system is to have each slot correspond to a LMH trio
You can assign a skin to every weapon/gadget, you could assign a skin to each weight class (and even optionally do a daytime vs nighttime toggle)
That way I could consolidate my Light 3, Medium 2, and Heavy 2 from the attached screenshot into one slot, have that be my Volpe/Dissun contestant(s), and still have plenty of slots to do the same thing with Iseult or whatever sponsor/theme I want
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Btw looooove that I saw one player card per contestant in the roadmap, that's suuuuper nice đ
Really feels like you're listening. Thanks for the devil tail â€ïž
Now where's my flaming spear? đ
PLEASE bring back head 2 head!!! there was no reason to remove it
They've only buffed weapons this season? Unless you're comparing to season 1, the ttk should feel similar if not better than last season. Also poke weapons are still viable, medium revolver has been fun to use last season and it likely will remain viable, repeater never left the meta entirely despite it's nerf (i hate that gun tho). The new crossbow seems promising and is semi-auto. For light you have the sniper which has been niche, but viable (and is now slightly buffed), LH1 and V9S which have been good for a while, and bow which is decent if you main it. Dagger is kind of a meme, but sword is viable if you can learn the weapon. All of heavies weapons are good besides spear (although it can be abused with barricade and other bs tech) and mgl (mgl is kind of a throw/just having fun pick tbh).
Make grand vaults pause when disarming them
April fools Idea, how fortnite came out with Zero-Build, The Finals makes Zero-Chaos, with destruction turned off.
THE FINALS haters in a nutshell (but seriously, why can't some people let others do what they want to)
There's something wrong with Starlight Hollow's initial spawns - it feels incredibly easy for first contact to be initiated on the far left Grand Vault side where the huts are. There's an entire open wheat field where attackers spawn and defenders can climb on top of the huts they spawn next to shoot down on the attackers.
For some reason it feels like the Defenders have an incredibly easy time pushing up into the Attacker's spawn, which can lead to some very lopsided matches in the Defenders' favor.
The cover on the left and right sides of the first phase seems to be decent enough for attackers, but there seems to be almost no cover in the middle for attackers to make use of.
nerf turret, it's impossible to counter without specific gadgets or specializations. And to silence the critics out there @gritty jetty
ï»ż and @versed knot, I'm more referring to bulk turret spam. A single or double turret is FINE, no issues with that, it's the overwhelming amount of turret users right now in modes like power shift and point break that cause issues. You can't delete 3 turrets with one data reshaper use. Respectfully, suck it, learn how to be a productive citizen, and stop acting like 12 year olds. There's people on this app that like that.
Make the pistol do more damage pls
Hey Embark congratulations on season 10! đ„łđâ„ïžđ„
As we are in the grips of a fantasy league, can we please please get a healing skin for the healing beam of Magic Hands. âšđ§đœââïžâš
I think it would look sick to have healing being sent your teammates way via your hands while dripped out as a wizard. đ§đœââïžđ
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eclipse shade revolver when bro
who thought the crossbow was fair
Please add pings/wheel comms to the mute button if someone's spamming, the spam timer will not prevent them from doing it again once able
Games in progress should not count as a loss when coming in a late match in solo que for all game types.
Imagine having to counter a gadget with another gadget⊠so horrible!
You serious bro? đ
Please consider adjusting Wave Respawn timers in Quick Cash. I would suggest by +3 seconds, minimum 10 seconds for a team wipe. It is far too common that the first team to wipe during a Cashout phase is ultimately best positioned to third party the other two teams and win the cashout almost for free.
I often do not feel like I'm being out-skilled, just out-spawned by timers that are too forgiving. Especially with the new enhanced movement options making returning to the combat zone very fast.
This game really shot itself in the head by having a class system. Itâs abysmal
spawning 200m from my own cashout is not it
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Player placed ziplines should have more health points than one already placed in the arena.
I'm done, as a light main the experience recently is awful. We had 0 items in 2 season and in top of that we get our main skill nerfed. It's really hard specially now to play light. I'm quitting the game and i have been playing since the beta.
Bring back h2h
The solo queue change does not function at all. Please for the love of god add a solo queue only
Two small suggestions for the practice range:
- There should be a toggle on the Loadout switcher (or really anywhere) that lets you have infinite charges on all gadgets and specs. It would make practicing shockwave movement so much less tedious.
- The shooting gallery should have a headshot/bodyshot/miss percentage displayed alongside the timer for better feedback on your aim.
why did you introduce an 8 player mode but you still havent made it possible to form a party of 8 people? after an entire season???? seriously where is the logic in that?
shockwave needs to be avalable while switching items, idk who thought making it unavailable while swapping thought it was a good idea, it messes up the flow and is unavaailable for too long after
STOP PUTTING ME AGAINST PEOPLE TWICE MY SKILL LEVEL IN CASUAL TOURNAMENTS
i genuinely hate this channel and the feedback in it but im sick and tired of the state of tournaments, people been complainging and giving alterantives for good reason, 12.5% win chance statisticlly sucks ass, going against teams completely countering my own playstyle sucks, make casual tournaments more casual with incentives, more world tour score from ranked, less max from casual but way higher minimum so the sweatier players have more reason for ranked but worse players have reason for casual
the medium infestation is actually ridiculous.
Love the game but Iâll be moving on, along with my friend, if H2H doesnât come back. It best mirrored the cashout mode without being a long tournament or too chaotic. It was also the best mode to recommended to new people so they could learn without getting overwhelmed and quitting. Quick cash is a very different mode thatâs a third party simulator and ends up more in non-stop battles than actually strategizing and setting up a point.
Obviously there's gonna be a lot of mediums while they've just got new stuff lol it'll fade
The crossbow needs a nerf asap
i just reached lvl 12 with the MGL but it went back to lvl 11...
What if:
-Event forecast was listed on event screen before picking loadout so you could plan/choose accordingly
-there was an event that forced every player to swap/randomize every element of their loadout until the event was over. Would be suitable for a CNS hack of sorts thematically. For fairness, maybe switch every class in the match to the same randomized loadoutâ could even give abilities and gadgets a class doesnât usually have access to, like grapple heavy, winch medium, and charge & slam light, etc.
-multiple events could happen simultaneously in different areas of the map- adds to the chaos and gives players the agency to avoid events they donât like or embrace the ones they do
-alien event (or almost any event, for that matter) had some indestructible carriable on the map that they were specifically targeting or centered around, such that one could grab it and use it to direct the area of destruction/chaos, kind of like a game of hot potato with a strategic element
-there was a âportals aplentyâ/âgateways galoreâ event that randomly spawned pairs of gateways around the map
-more map hazards in general. There are plenty of instakill bottomless pits, but what if there were the occasional incinerator, or massive, industrial shredders to fall into or push players into. Perhaps button activated?
-like the walls on Monaco, where activating a button raises one and closes the other, what about buttons that close one pitfall and open another? Could be fun, and would add a dynamic element to a map. Could be time limited, similar to cannons, to prevent cutting off access to an area entirely by spamming the pits. Or buttons that activate a portal or a temporary, alternate path to get across isolated areas like high rise modes or hospital on Seoul.
Just some random thoughts that could be fun
bring back ranked stickers and charms, no reason why only rubies get them now
Love the game alot but h2h was my home and its gone so I will most likely move on from the finals if it doesn't come back
if thats so bad then add a sex update to lights so then it will be alright!
Starlight hollow is too⊠hollow. Defense is hard because buildings on the map are really soft
bro put the option to remove contestant highlight, like wtf I want to see that when tilted at the end of the match
FIX THERMAL VISION WTF IS TAKING SO LONG
The Medium favoritism is getting kinda crazy
solo q rank all day and faced 3 stack rubies every game at 28k, im not getting a true solo q experience early this season tbh based on your patch notes
New map just lacks balance like crazy. Kinda ruins the whole season
I like the new map but I kinda wanted a castle ngl
Game still having lag spikes, it is an improvement tho ngl but they are still around sometimes
just make ranked final round only third partying isn't skilled in the least and makes for an infuriating gameplay loop where you are consistently losing because no one wants to fight team (k) because they have a ruby or streamer
Please promote the game. Many people who did play beta don't know what's happening in the game and many more don't know about the finals at all(
Love your game
This game sucks.
Do not make RS gains/losses based on "personal performance". There is no reasonable way to determine personal performance in ranked. Combat / Support / Objective / Etc means nothing. This will cause even more COD players wondering off from the team and taking pop shots across the map, instead of teamplay, which is what this game requires.
awful lot of getting kicked for TFAV8005 file modification on a fresh install of literally everything. windows, steam, and the finals. LMK
i think people should be rewarded rs for bugged placement games. At the very start of the season, ranked placement matches did not award the correct rs. People like myself did not get as much rs as we should have (can also be seen with carnifex who won all placements and got 28750 rs). I did better than both my team mates in my placements, and placed higher rs last season, and i got placed 26k. They both got placed 35k and 37k. Now i have to grind for about 15 hours just to catch up to them, which isn't really fair.
Crossbow is incredibly overtuned
Please update your branding assets and content kit Google Drive folder with Season 10.
Either put a time limit on point break or don't simply kick everyone out if the match goes on too long. Had a match that i guess went to the server time limit and just booted erryone from the match.
Nighttime and Fog maps should not reduce aim assist
literally dont put solos against a team of pro players in pointbreak lol
Please embark add thermal vision back its been 3 seasons maybe more, additionally I'd like to see a way where we can que up but be in the practice range
change this back to 84 days bruh
GIVE BREACH DRILL A REMOTE!!! you could make the cooldown longer, but the Demat and Breach drill need to serve relatively different purposes in order to be used. nerf fcar by like 10 rpm, it currently shreds everything (will become unhealthy, i can smell it), maybe tune up the dome a bit because of the direct counter, and buff the pad's hp and dim the lights (you breathe hard enough and it vanishes). Chimera also kinda serves as another rifle, just a toned down lh1 for medium. DON'T TOUCH THE SHOTGUNS, the new spec pairs well with them.
as for the academy, maybe add strategies for each specialization and teamplay for each as that seems to be a focus, as well as more information about arena destruction/manipulation. otherwise all the videos are great and have lots of info for new and returning players. So far its a fun season with a decent balance, but I can see heavy and light being dropped for another medium in general as medium just covers absolutely everything. Why use glitch when I can have a data reshaper on one medium and have two jump pads on a team with either two heals or heals and a dash?
Also, fix ranked pretty please. half of the issues are because there are not enough players, and the other half is just matchmaking, rs gain/loss, and smurfs. (pretty please make more gem skins, they look a googolplexillion better with the carbon fiber, and having level skins as such would be AMAZING. (side note, make weapon XP easier to get, too many levels and it's super slow).
yippie season that actually feels like it should've been season 9
As someone who has been wanting a crossbow in this game for such a long time, I am really disappointed in the chimera xb. Usually the finals is really good about keeping gunplay consistent with legitimate firearms, but this is just not how a crossbow works at all. Crossbows that have the sort of two bow design can fire two quick shots in a row, but they need to take time to reload each shot. It canât just rapid fire 15 bolts in the span of five seconds. I really wish that embark made a crossbow that loaded one bolt at a time, that did high burst damage, but it requires more reload management/aim, even if it was an absolutely terrible weapon. The crossbow couldâve been so unique to this game, but embark basically turned it into something that rivals P90.
Once again, the game adds another annoying weapon for the medium class, this time the crossbow. It needs to not be hitscan and function similarly to the bow. It should only be hitscan hipfire range⊠but DEFINITELY not from distance
Matchmaking is still shit
please god damn seperate stack solo
nobody want to play against stack as solo in big 2026
1/4 of my 11k deaths are from getting defibbed in unsafe situations by most teammates when i'm solo. if we don't get a "refuse defibrillator" button, or the game doesn't get a feature where you cannot be defibbed if the enemy is within like 15m and has LOS of you 10 seconds after you die, i'm not gonna play as much s11
on that note, i've lost the last 5 solo que games in point break becasue matchmaking expects me to win vs 5+3 stacks, i'm actually giving up solo que PB this is disappointing
Why not have the KD Stat at the end screen be replaced by a dynamic stat? Like Your Healing Done, Damage Blocked, or at least Assists.
Stats for Heal Beam and other healing tools along with Damage Blocking Tools are tracked for XP so it means they could be displayed at the end card. I think it would be a fun incentive for folks to try helping the team more by mitigating damage taken and helping with kills instead of just outright killing.
Dog S performance. 3 seasons streak u cant fix ur GPU loading problem on 30 Nvidia series. No matter what setting i use no matter what dlss i choose i got only 60 prs of GPU loading ONLY in this Dog S game.
FIX UR GAME, HELLO?
Minigun in the contestant menu still says 250 rounds
allow for us to see enemy teams that are partied, so we can better prepare ourselves the skill increase that comes with comms
Well, they broke the light melee class. Now it's impossible to play as a light swordsman, at most against other light classes.
Heavy classes run around with flamethrowers or sledgehammers.
Medium classes run around with a new class and crossbows, and they simply knock you back when you try to close in, wasting all your dashes.
The dash cooldown has increased, and it's simply not enough. Now you have to think and relearn to have one more dash left in reserve.
Yes, I can still play as Light, but I do it much worse than before, now people donât write to me that Iâm fast as Lightning McQueen.
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I'm having problems with my emotes
introduce an off hand like mc to hold items such as grenades?
give us an option to ban maps, new map is awful in TDM
Please give back Head2Head
As solo queue in QC I only play against pre made 3 stacks.
Can I play against other solo queues? Or am I just stuck logging on for one or two games and only playing 2 x 3 stacks each time?
make dash 2 charges and give it a delay and take away sword light attack only charge attack
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they BETTER DO IT
ranked still unplayable for solo, enemies are either high ranks that got demoted to silver or smurfs while your teammates are dummies 9/10 matches :/
Matter is beyond broken. I have no idea what data you guys are smoking. It absolutely NOT need this buff.
QUICK CASH IS RUINED THE SPAWNS ARE THE WORST THEYVE EVER BEEN AND ITS ALMOST BETTER TO GET WIPED YOU SPAWN 40M FROM THE CASHOUT
Yeah agreed, I installed the game to feel fast, not to play sluggish
Nerf Dash more and bring back Head2Head
Hey Embark letâs summarise what you managed to do to this flawless game for the big season 10:
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instead of reworking pike to have a role you managed to add a weapon that gives M the equivalent of Lâs V9S. Nobody asked for it but here we are, you might as well delete pike.(such a good idea to add weapons just for the sake of adding weapons right?)
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you made the new map only available in PB/TDM instead of the gameâs main mode. Phenomenal job!
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winch is still in the game without any changes. How fun!
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the delay on demat is still strong as ever making it horrible to use.
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you nerfed dash because itâs annoying meanwhile you designed light to have to play like rats in order for them to have value.
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in the longest trailer for this season you teased a fucking skin.(your gigabrain decisions amaze me every time)
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you actually added a good spec that really should have been a gadget but hey itâs a small victory.
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Minigun now has 300 bullets. Yes this is the buff it needed.
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you buffed lockbolt. Thank god!
All in all Iâm pleasantly surprised that you managed to put one good thing into the game. Letâs see if next season you can keep it up or improve and do 2 things that make sense.
Season 10 ~~Fantasy ~~ Medium League (because fuck off)
Buff FCAR ? Buff AKM ? Buff Turret ?
New spec ? New Weapon ? New gadget ?
And just for the pleasure, a nerf of the DASH and SH1900 ? Really ?
Still waiting for the delete of the thermal vision. Like you did for the stun gun
The balance team need to be fire. They are just medium main touching themself in the office.
And BTW. Nerfing the dash when your servers can't register correctly it ? After 10 seasons, you can still dash behind a wall and die anyway ! Please rethink your priority
@cinder skiff yes ? It's 4m now. It was 3m. And less damage. It change nothing when you have 150HP.
So we got a Battlefield Rush small map, a floating useless platform a magic ball and a crossbow that should be automatic. But ya'll cooked on the BP. Then boy oh boy! That roadmap showed.... absolutely nothing. I expect those quality of life changes anyway as the game matures. But geez.... really dodged a bullet this year because of Arc? Am I right Embark?
They buffed the range (accuracy) of the DB but nerfed the damage slightly, now you need to hit slightly more pellets to 1 HIT a light. Sorry dash was annoying it has a 1 second longer CD per use
shockwave can prevent cashout stealing way too easy considering theres 2 shockwaves, should either have reduced knockback or only 1 shockwave
it prevents revives, increases mobility, detaches deployables from surfaces and stop a cashout it needs some sort of nerf
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optimize the other modes, new map is great and can play high settings, 4k no issues but going into the other modes its severely damaging to fps and gives off server issues, please optimize the game fully
Add killcams to point break, easiest mode to cheat in with so many people having pin point accuracy in movement and long range distance, especially on console, fix the cheating and bs with xim/cronus
fix the cheating in asia
Crossbow with hitscan and no special features, no poison bolts, no fire bolts, nothing??? defeats the entire purpose of it's existence, it's just a reskinned pike at this point.
new map only playable on TDM & Point break? Very disappointing.
Medieval map does not involve a castle, nor is it playable in cashout? You had ONE job..
Three new things for medium, nothing for L and H..?
The mace was a lie, we meme'd about it being a skin, and it actually was.. Have a serious talk with whoever was responsible for thinking that was a good idea.
Nerfed dash? You just make light a worse class, while those that think dash needs a nerf will STILL complain about it..
Invis and Grapple buffs are laughable, what about making invis actually work, first of all ? Still invis is severely negatively affected by what skins you wear.. Is anyone in your team looking into this ?
I was so hyped for medieval season, but your execution of it has been done in almost the worst way possible, not even gonna buy battle pass or any skins this season, and I have been collecting skins in your game since OB.
Well done, honestly, I could never have expected the medieval season to be this bad.
Agree on most of things and 100% support you on those but what i dont support is light being useless and nerf being Bad ...
Lights didnt use anything other than dash last few seasons... It needed nerf and it needed even more.. from 3 to 2 dashes - make the cooldown lower
Heavy have 5specs, last got BFR
Light will have its time to shine in S12 100% with new spec and weapon
But other than that. Yes 100% agree
Medival season was a big let down.. baiting us beyond believe.
Gadgets needed complete overhoal not a little changes... We needed freah air to be brought...
They should add new things as season goes on and rebalance things alot... Because currently it will get stale really soon.
But i must say - medium spec shockwave is the best thing since gateway
I love it tho, the new map is also goated, plays perfectly in point break
Add the new map to quick cash and powershift
Add more maps to POINT BREAK lol
Yea I think the same thing but they should just make it so whoever is stealing the cashout has knockback immunity
the battlepass "Ultimate" tier is too expensive imho, anyone noticed that too?
You announce new ranked updates and improvements and hope that more people will start playing this mode (even bragging that over 25% more players played Season 9 than before)⊠yet you still punish players when there are leavers in the team....something your own system detects.
Can someone explain to me how itâs fair that if Iâm left alone in a match, I still lose RP? You want to present this as a competitive game, but not only is there no real reward for playing ranked, you canât even put together a stable, sensible system. You punish the player who actually stays and struggles through the match, while the others leave after 3 kills.
And letâs not even mention that you also punish teams in very close matches just for finishing lastâyou simply apply a pre-calculated value regardless of how the game actually played out. Thereâs not even the slightest effort to motivate players to keep playing or join this mode.
Whatâs going on, Embark?
Ayo embark.
The blunderbuss repeater skin is like the coolest repeater skin you've ever made, but why does it have the stink aura???
Let us remove the stink aura from weapons and the ultimate BP might actually be cool (price aside, 30$ is still too much for what you're getting).
As long as the skins are stinky, theres not even a single thought crossing my mind to buy ultimate
Yeah it definitely is but ig embark gotta pull more money somewhere
dude the thing does literally nothing else and it's a SPEC
keep your shitty feedback in the finals chat, the shockwave OBVIOUSLY needs an ADDITIONAL charge for it to have any real use outside of bored players that are too good at the game
how does this game still not have proper match history man please add that
Make Starlight Hollow a permanent map in Pointbreak. You allready have it setup so why not make it a permanent map? It does not affect TDM in any way, it just means Pointbreak get a more diverse map pool.
medium wass the worst class for like a season and a half
The crossbow abd the gravity ball are pretty fun. Not to mention we got controler improvements, data reshaper has a use now and people have been forgetting about the new on boarding experience too. Like, this game really needs that.
Plus they'll probably have another weapon or more stuff next season, they literally said they wanted to make season 12 very special if you've seen the livestream. The fact that they're gonna be reworking the mess of melee is really exciting to me.
I just donât think thatâs true
Please can you make our ranks visible in the lobby screen, its really frustrating not being able to see your ranks after a game, and even the leader board lags a game or two behind as it hasn't updated đ
fix spawns, fix matchmaking
please fix the red icon lag PLEASE
8 person lobbies so I can queue with my friends in Point Break
Thanks Embark,
a tournament with 4/12 people connected, Thanks to the servers đđđ
pls buff demat, the last change was a nerf and not a buff
Hello, help me contact someone from The Finals development team, I was banned from the game, but I didn't use anything, describing everything in detail and providing evidence, I get template answers, this is not answered by a living person who could check everything carefully, please, we need help, the anti-cheat may make a mistake and we want to thoroughly check our account or at least find out the exact reasons for the blocking, we are hurt by the injustice and the situation, please give us a contact of a person who could help, we are not asking for a verbal breakdown, we are ready to fully explain the whole situation that happened, I have over 1000 hours in the game, a lot I've invested a lot of time and money, I wouldn't risk my account.
What is embark doing with the ranked matchmaking in S10? I was in plat last season and now I keep getting unbalanced as hell lobbies making my way out of silver impossible... I can't post the screenshot but i was in a lobby with my team having 47kRS and the closest team being 64k, and the top 1 and 2 teams 77k... In my team we are all 15k silvers but we have enemies with 27k (don't forget they added a limit of 10k for duos, which I appreciate because I play SoloQ, but you can fight teams of +12k :D)
Bro u gotta wait to grind ranked
Agreed, combine the Starlight Hollow with the P.E.A.C.E Center and add a castle on the side, ezpz you get a full-fledged Cashout map
Cosmetics suggestion:
There is currently an Amethyst-coloured badge awarded for reaching a high number of total wins, eliminations, revives, etc.
Do the same thing with weapons.
ie. Reaching 1000 kills with a weapon gives you an Amethyst skin for that weapon
Nerf the god damn M11 already! Its the easiest and most overperforming bullethoose in the game! Fuck its boring!
Servers are fuckedâŠ
Multiple people found that their major stutter issues in the game were fixed by disabling their HDD pagefile and enabling their SSD's ones. There are a whole host of things that can end up fixing issues like that, and players don't have an effective way to find out about them, so I think it would be good if the game had some in-game troubleshooting resources. Because otherwise when people's games are hardly playable they're just gonna quit.
The change to Point Break giving Attackers 5 coins rather than 15 at the end of the phase was subtle but seems to have a large positive impact. I feel like games this season have been less of a shutout in a phase, making matches more intense.
I haven't enjoyed Starlight Hollow but I think as the player base learns the map matches will improve. It seems more linear than I am used to but I can't say for certain.
this might be the first time. they add a weapon for non heavy. and its balanced of the start.
i love this crossbow.
stop making this game a aimslop
Hey embark.
Where are the previous rewards as the discription states in the world tour tab? I didnt recieve any of the previous charms for bronze, gold, plat or diamond. There should be a charm for each tier and a badge.
I was emerald 1 last season along with ranked diamond. But you changed the charms to be part of the world tour rewards , not the ranked rewards. I'd like it if you looked into everyone getting the promised "previous rewards" aswell as where you ended up when the season ended. Your text states : 250 multibucks + background + emblem + emerald reward coins + previous rewards" and the background shows the charms being part of each tier.
Otherwise reward the charms as part of the ranked system as it used to and reward the playerbase with the charms they earned through ranked for S9
Im also missing all the ranked backgrounds for each tier. Bronze, silver, gold, plat
bang
make xp gain for the hoverpad faster, i spam it all game and still have barely gotten anywhere.
What do you guys think about, that the mid-class shokwave specialition should be able disinigrate smoke and gas?
Experimental idea:
Right now a MAJOR issue that is actually plaguing cashout, is how easy it is to just winch a cashout out into the open and play from there. This gameplay is incredibly boring.
A rough idea I had, is what if we implement some sort of "point break" area around the cashout? Make it larger of course as that is a pretty big part of the game, but still restrict it.
Like allow a large area of the building, and maybe a few meters (like only 2) all around the actual building.
This would make cashout fights far more fair, and interesting.
Again it is a really experimental idea, kind of a cashout for a weak type of test, but I think it would improve a lot.
@terse nymph thats a cool idea
the ranked servers are not working right, or the matchmaking is ignoring ping completely i have the red speedometer icon constantly in every match i played, but only in ranked. also ranked worked fine to me last season, the ping was fine and there were no issues, also other gamemodes work fine so its not on my end. its really annoying and unplayable. every action is delayed by like 300-500 ms, i can send videos if its needed, hit registration is very delayed and jumpad jumps are also delayed
Day 3 of asking for a contract nerf revert
Add a channel to this discord where you can submit ideas for new cosmetics. Right now you cant really send it anywhere and it would help giving you ideas and us players outfits we want.
Ever since the S10 Update i have had an issue when playing Cashout and Ranked Cashout specificly - I get a red clock Icon and lag as if im playing on NA server (im from EU)
All other modes work just fine and its not my PC Specs for sure plus i tried all the self troubleshooting there is and nothing works
The other Modes work fine but im really into Cashout
New content and skins are amazing but i got a bug and cant play :C
Please add hud centering / hud safezone for ultrawide. The hud centering settings option in Arc Raiders is exactly what we need
please nerf the crossbow it makes the game so much not fun
How to correctly balance the 93R (its current TTK is awful)
The 93R's current TTK is even worse than it was pre-S5 and in my honest opinion it is subpar versus other light class options (like the ARN, the XP-54, the V9S and the LH1).
This weapon gets out-damaged in most cases by the FAMAS (across all classes), a similar 3-round burst weapon with 4 more rounds in the magazine present in the medium class, which has 100 more HP.
In my opinion it doesn't make sense that the light class burst weapon has... less DPS potential than the medium class burst weapon?
Proposed 93R changes:
Damage: 24** (same)**
Burst delay: 0,275s > 0,23s
This change will result in the following TTKs (Time-to-kill):
Body:
light: 0,81s -> ** 0,72s** (7 shots) (does NOT 2 burst lights with body shots only)
medium: 1.28s -> 1,14s (11 shots)
heavy: 1.74s -> 1,56s (15 shots)
Head:
light: 0.47s -> 0,42s (5 shots)
medium: 0.81s -> 0,72s (7 shots)
heavy: 1.22s -> 1,08s (10 shots)
Damage drop-off minimum range: 30m ->** 27m**
Damage drop-off maximum range: 37.5m ->** 34.5m**
Damage Dropoff Modifier @ Max Range: 50%** (it stays the same)**
These changes will make the weapon solid while not making it overpowered; for comparison, the ARN, a weapon with effectively a 60 round magazine, more range, and fully automatic has TTKs that are on average 10% faster than the 93R. This makes it effectively a completely superior option while being easier to use and way more forgiving. Missing a burst on the 93R means you are extremely penalised in your killing potential. This isn't the case for the ARN.
With these changes, the 93R will not 2 burst lights with body shots only, which was the product of an oversimplified "nuclear" buff made in Season 5.
This proposal will also make the 93R less capable to poke at long range due to lower minimum and maximum drop-off ranges, leaving that task to options such as the ARN and the LH1 (preserves the weapon niche).
Please please god let us turn off voices for revive requests... easily my most hated addition to this game. Just gets very annoying and people like to spam it
why is the season 103 days long
You guys didn't make Scotty a datable npc, you have failed to revive the game /j
Day 78 of asking Embark to add native HDR support to the finals.
Yeah I get this too. Seems like new bug with this season
fire your balance team
Hit registration issue lol
for all the people wanting H2H back, think of those who wanted TA back. it's never coming back
Esports ready đ€Ąđ€Ąđ€Ą
https://imgur.com/a/vLz0422
@glass sequoia
No recoil, high damage, high rate of fire, fast reload, strong hipfire, hitscan, and very quiet.
Did yall run out of ideas because this is the most overtuned weapon in the game.
I heard that the devs are looking to revert the sniper back to being hitscan and as a diehard sniper main since season 2 who got to diamond initially by solo-queueing with just that weapon: I have literally never been happier
Till the day I die I'm an advocate for them reverting the sniper to the way it was and simply disabling it in power shift because I don't think a gun's competitive viability should be determined by a quickplay gamemode that plays vastly different to cashout
I wrote in my original review for The Finals too that the sniping in this game feels better than any sniper I've used in any other game ever (which I wrote before the hitscan change), and I really want to see my favorite weapon return to a state of relative viability. I've remained loyal to it since then regardless but the weapon is in dire need of a reversion
FCAR DID NOT NEED A BUFF
They're so different it isn't even funny.
H2H was useful, fast, and had queue times between 30 and 45 seconds.
this
Its only swapped out for the event imo lol
Chimera is buuuuuuuusted
Do you even test anything anymore? Jesus
Another reason to uninstall
Also, M11 is still overtuned. You didn't fix ANY of the problems people asked for
Bring Back Head2Head
am I the only one who's game keeps crashing on TDM?
The song Ballet of the Shadow Flock goes sooooo hard

please give light the new medium specialty. they already have jump pad, this is just jump pad without the support-like medium feel, and light is the movement class. light gets no new gadgets, but to make up for it, they also lost their last shred of identity in this game. my prediction is that next season vanish bomb moves to medium.
the new "top performers" thing is the last thing i'd ever want. i do not nor ever will care for one second about how well the other teams did.
Bring back head2head, there was no reason to get rid of it
I kinda like it . Only thing i would add would be either last kill replat for all , or the best killing spree ... in the end. like cod has
Serious feedback on Sword
I played Sword for about 1000h (hit rank 90 with it before) and a few things get lost in the heated "Sword is overpowered/unplayable" discussion.
First of all both sides need to be understood where they are coming from.
Yes in a casual lobby where people don't hit the important shots a Sword that is just running around and left clicking people to death seems absurd, overpowered and has little to do with skill expression.
The Problem is as soon as you cross the line of people investing enough time to hit even just a moderate amount of their shots left clicks become less and less viable and you have to learn combos and movement tricks to minimize the damage you take while maximizing the damage output. That's where the sword lunge comes in. Lunging is the part where skill expression shows with movement, spacial awareness and positioning. With reducing the damage AND introducing a rotation clamp the lunge becomes really clunky to use and less effective than the simpler M1 spamm.
So what can Embark do to fix the issue for both sides ? Put the focus of the weapon back on the lunge to reduce frustrating scenarios.
Second Problem, lunging through an entire team and dealing massive damage with very little counterplay should not be a thing. It is very frustrating to play against and extremely situational. It should be like other melee weapons. Left clicking less damage but can multihit and the "special attack" single target but is special in some way. Hammer has a single target high damage and destruction. Sword should have single target damage on the lunge but high mobility.
The rotational clamp itself got introduced to get rid of people 360° rotating through an entire team for a huge hurtbox and is without multihits therefore redundant.
I intentionally didn't talk about hit registration because it haunts the game as a whole and has only gotten worse in the beginning of season 10 but of course it increases the frustration for alot of people. Hit detection, desyncs and server performance in general should be a heavy focus for you because it is very frustrating and from experience playing with alot of different people a big reason people ragequit or in general leave the game. Like all other bugs it should not be a reason to increase/decrease the weapons power and should rather be fixed.
Changes
M1 Damage 88 -> 74 (one more left click for each class)
Lunge Multihits -> removed
Lunge Damage 120 -> 140 (without multihits and less left click damage you need the combo breakpoint of 138 to have a fighting chance)
Lunge rotational clamp -> removed
Other Feedback
Ranked needs one less round. The current playerbase can't sustain proper matchmaking with 24 player lobbies. Cutting it in half with 12 player lobbies and 2 rounds for everyone so even the "losing teams" play for 3rd place would not only help with players being on similar skill levels but also relieve frustration for the casual playerbase from losing rs in 15 mins but gaining the same amount in 45 mins.
Small QOL Updates You have the so many good features that would be little work for you but would impact the community positively and fill the content breaks. One example would be releasing the collected data about weapons etc. as an api just like for example "op.gg" or "lolalytics" from League of Legends. Collab with the talented people in your community that already built sites like the leaderboard/bans/rename tracker. Other ones would be changing the weapon stats to numbers instead of a vague bar so it's more readable, adding assists to the profile or having a simple match history that locally saves the stats of the last 10 games or so.
same issues with the third party and grief, make 3v3 ranked
Same stats as lh1 btw 0-0
medium is terrible, the new spec gadget and weapon + buffs did nothing, its the worst class, u have to be on crack to be good on medium meanwhile i can just chill and destroy everyone on light and heavy
Debatible
the mouthpiece is backwards in the clarinet skin. wtf. embark wtf
ok why this game give people not a timeout when they leave a game. In Ranked yes but all other modes not ? Why this game put people in Lobbys where people leaving 24/7 because they loosing. What Embark expect from a player who got put in a lobby where 4-6 people already leave before and the game is over in a bit because its a big loose already. If people leave the game because if connection issues of course they should not get a timeout but people who leave the game and insteandly join another one ? whats the point ? I already have matches in Point break where 4-5 people leaving insteandly in the first wave.
Stop making Medium more meta. Delete CL-40, Dual Blades, and Chimera.
increase recoil on the chimera
Use that Arc money and get some South African servers. Probably won't even help as the playerbase here as dead as a doorknob. Ping has always been mine only complaint for this game.
And what's with this bull that we can't see our ping ingame after 10 seasons.
cl-40 & dual blades are meta? đ đ and medium was the worst class last season
Point Break is too hard for the attacking team, they need to do 3 waves and even the defending team can litteraly win at any time. 1 wave is better or maybe 2
i think attacking team has it too easy
Since season 10 dropped I am facing severe lag issues in-game. Where I tried other games on the same pc that is going well, I also tried different places to try the game and itâs the same issue. Thereâs a one second delay on everything, it registers too late for me to play a whole game. Itâs happening on all game modes, even practice range. I think itâs an area issue? Idk, but this wasnât there before the update. Iâm playing from Lebanon, asked other players if theyâre facing the same issues and they said yes.
I agree that players randomly leaving matches should get a timeout, it's annoying to have your team be outnumbered after 1 wave. It takes way too long to get someone else in their place, and sometimes there's absolutely no one joining. Bad experience altogether.
i agree
They aren't meta. That guy didn't even mention repeater, by far one of the best guns in the game especially due to its high skill ceiling. Duel blades and cl40 are strong un casuals but are by no means meta. That is to say, play whatever gun you want, meta only really matters in dimond/Ruby
I agree with medium being the worst class ( i js got here idk exactly whats being discussed but ok) so the medium in my opinion didnt havr any point besides to hold the team together with defib and healing beam, i like how they added stuff for them, but i dont think its game changing. Light and Heavy didnt get anything this season which is what i was looking forward to.
why did yall nerf the diamond and ruby skins. and add back bank it
3v3 ranked is a must
Please release a legendary flamethrower skin where it just comes out of your hand so i can complete my wizard skin.
THE FINALS BATTLE ROYALE PLES
It takes 2minutes to even find a quickcash match in OCE. There's no way a single lobby would populate.
Bring back smoke n guns event and it's rewards
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Bring back TA â> go play csgo, valorant, R6
Add battle royale â> go play Fortnite, COD, apex, or add it in like split gate and let the game die.
Horrid ideal
what about TDM then? or Point Break, which is one of the most popular modes added? Go play COD or BF? A BR done with proper Finals love would actually be interesting, done right.
embark. it's as easy as that: if you are gonna queue me against ruby players in a casual gamemode, i AM leaving the game. simple. makes the game worse for everyone. fix your fucking matchmaking, i don't give a shit about new weapons and gagdets and all that shit, if i can just have a balanced. fucking. game. against players my skilllevel.
Anyone else's game keeps freezing for like a second or 2 every once in a while? Its like a long stutter? Im on amd and and my device manager doesnt isnt showing me a memory leak or anything
Why is MVP just based on Combat Score/Kills? Playing the Objective never actually gets you MVP
STILL losing 600+ RS in GOLD to some of the best players in the world. Still doody matchmaking.
THIIIIIS !!!!!
The removal of Head to Head is baffling me
It was the main reason I still was playing this game....
I love many of the new season medieval/fantasy outfits but I feel a lot of them are ruined by out of place modern branding that spoil otherwise vintage style outfits. Very few people are going to want a mages or wizards outfits with some huge modern logo down the side. Please keep the modern branding on the modern outfits only. Also the option to remove contestant numbers from outfits would be great.
BRING BACK H2H
MAKE THE CROSSBOW A PROJECTILE WEAPON !
fix your game embark for the love god, there are so many bugs where items just drop out of my hand, where i glitch through floors, where there once again is shit fps and where my glitch grenade and vanish bomb just despawn in the void. You already made life hell for light players by giving heavy and medium new stuff and nerf light thigns but pls make it playable without the bugs ty
Too many new players dropping out of TDM. Pls put new players with new players. last match i was only left with one other player.
There's too many leavers in all the modes
can we have a fuckng SBMM in every game mode? why the fuck you even gather statistics for then? i keep finding literally gods of this game to play against, i am BAD, and i know it, but damn this shit is not balanced at all
Nerf the god damn M11 already! Its the easiest and most overperforming bullethoose in the game! Fuck its boring!
playerbase problem, nothing the devs can do except try to get more players by advertising and stuff
Give South America some love
- Bugs
- Chat censoring. Some normal words get censored while insults pass since the chat was introduced to the game.
- Hard-stuck bug after finding a game. Workaround is to restart the game, and bug has been around for several seasons.
- Cam gets stuck after getting killed. This bug is present since beta.
- Queuing & Latency suggestions
- Show queue population and fix estimates.
- Show region to the entire party while queuing.
- Fix having to sync region with party leader so that you don't have lag.
- Show ping / packet numbers in game. Yellow/Red indicators don't have any value.
- Accessibility
Footsteps and cashout steal sounds are hard to hear because other sounds often mask them.
Add accessibility options to:
- Increase those volumes
- Flash a bigger and noticable red light in the top left of the screen when a cashout is being stolen
- Map Voting
Every mode should have it (Overwatch approach).
- Ranked should have 1 less round (24 â 12 players)
One Cashout round followed by head-to-head matches â 1v2 & 3v4 â 2v3.
- Anti-Smurf Detection
If a new account clearly performs above its skill level, it should be moved to higher-skill lobbies instead of facing new players. Repeated smurfing should lead to bans.
- Duplicate + naming features for loadouts
Similar to outfits.
- Polls & Roadmap
Players who invest time/money should influence direction (OSRS approach), not only the pro scene. Game needs more focus on casual.
It is great that you finally added a roadmap. Thank you. Keep doing that!
- Defib refuse button. But only for 10-15 seconds at a time or until my respawn delay is ready, that should be long enough to change loadouts but not long enough to be abused to indefinitely stay dead and AFK farm WT pts/XP.
- Killcams background performance improvement
- Map voting in QP, map bans in Ranked - players have more agency over our lobbies, the dev team gets to see which maps are played on more or less so you can decide what's in a healthy spot or what needs optimization or rebalancing. You are already experimenting with Starlight Hollow 24/7 in Point Break as its own playlist for a month, the team could have gone without that if you did something like "to kick off our NEW map voting feature, we're giving our NEW map Starlight Hollow a big boost in the Point Break voting pool for the next 3 weeks!"
What the fuck have you done with the shak? Shadow nerf?
Is the "shoot through riot shield bug active again" because Im getting shot a lot where I think I should be safe and it's feeling increasingly pointless to play it.
Maybe Im burnt out after 9 seasons but something feels off.
Kyoto even outside of its snowy season is lagging the hell out of my PC, its been like 5 seasons since this godawful map behaves like this, please either vault it or spend some time optimizing this map
Fcar needs a bigger mag
so much for QUICK cash having QUICKER respawns this season lol
i was referring to season 3 balance, it felt punchy back then, now with all the heal slop and almost every single unique weapon got nerfed to the point of unviability, everything feels way too similar and has been reduced to ar smg and lmg combat, and melee has been dumbed down and gutted. I use to love knife and cloak combo, but now that u have to hold down right click in order to do a stab, YOU CANNOT RUN, i am forced to use dash with knife if i want to be able to back stab. Also they made knife left click a thousand times stronger, i dont really need to backstab people. Sledge use to hit like a truck and now is just ok, not gonna be seeing one guy solo a team with it anymore though. ALSO BIG THING, some weapons should be objectively stronger and weaker, it makes for a much more interesting game. Have the highest damaging things be high skill, the average things just be average (aka what the whole game is now), and most important of all HAVE WEAK GUNS, I LOVE WEAK GUNS GRAHHHHHHHHHH. I like getting really good with really bad weapons and high skill high damage weapons, BUT EVERYTHING JUST IS THE SAME NOW đ, its all so boring and side note one update made a lot of stuff slower and clunkier, hated that update. If i seem mean in this im not trying to be, its just i have been very passionate about this game and i hated the direction they took it, i blame the esports, it seems like they tried to make the game interesting for viewers by dragging out fights, yet it makes it so much worse to watch and play.
Worst decision ever to get H2H out of the game. Who came up with that splendid idea? Employee of the month?
Itâs usually best to wait a week or two before starting ranked, all of the YouTubers and past rubies/diamonds are currently climbing out of gold due to the ranked reset so youâre getting caught in the crossfire
addd hud centering
Absolute airball with the light changes (or lack thereof). I get the idea was to make medium less of a victim, but now youâve effectively just swapped light and medium. I wouldnât be suprised if HHM is meta this season because of the data reshaper change either
revert the restrictions from ranked, I cant play with my friend because hes bronze 1 and im gold 2, he didn-t play last season so the qualifier matches put him there
can we consider adding a similar to Gun Run mode into finals? Imo that would be really nice and fun, also pretty useful for new players and even some senior one
Embark
Stop letting SANGWOO share profiles, you cant play 24hrs a day. 10 million in 3 days is IMPOSSIBLE as a single player... over all the pros? Stop this nonsense.... The math is not mathing guys. Sharing profiles is A NO NO REMEMBER?
LOVE that you've worked on so much stuff, it's really nice to see! The ONE thing I really really hope you will work on is the overall matchmaking system. All my friends who I played with have abandoned the game for this very reason...pleaseđ
Give us back head to head please and give heavies and mediums more attention, lights should be heavily nerfed
Add an option to remove contestant numbers, lots of otherwise clean cosmetics are ruined by them
Edit: theyâre an instant downgrade to basically every cosmetic theyâre part of ngl
As a new player a way to view scopes on guns without having to equip it and go to a match or a website would be nice đ
Add more snipers the ones yall have currently are horrible add like the AWP
The matchmaking is not fixed they just fucking lied like always
Agreed, I used to play daily and could smoke. Step away for a month or two. Now every single lobby, is just being F'd over and over. To the extent that it feels like 60% of the lobby has wall-hacks or aim-hacks.
Wonderful new content (some is ruined by dumb player numbers, that should be client side to turn them off cause they are trash on literally everything)
heyho, just logged in to s10 for the first time. seems like head to head is gone. sooo, is it gone for good???
kinda sad bout that, used to be the gamemode i hopped into if i just wanted to play and didnt have that much time on my hands.
Anyone else sick of the m11? The range is fine, the damage is fine considering itâs limited range, but why the funk does it have god damn FORTY bullets a mag, gun is way too forgiving for itâs output and reload speed
ok. someone must have leaked internal source code or sum shit. cuz from season 1-9 i faced a total of 5 cheaters.
but in the first 2 days of season 10. ive already faced 16 cheaters. full on aim botting through walls. beaming HS only across the map. there was also one cheater who spawned in props from diffrent maps.
in just 2 days. this game has felt more like GTA on PC. than the finals
Reduce the self damage of CL-40
can y'all look into the post-destruction dust on low settings? it feels like it never dissipates and just accumulates over time, I can't see a meter from my face
Nighttime and Fog should not reduce aim assist
Completely unfair for controller players
make the game just like pugs where only the top team makes it through to next round, not the top 2. this format only promotes people holding the cash box and griefing other players
The amount of cheaters not even a week into the new season is making the game unplayable. Was gonna but the pass but why even cause im about to uninstall this game for good.
Bring back Head2Head
I agree, bring back Head2head.
Please allow me to see the reserve loeadouts of my teammates, I want to see what they could use to build around me and vice versa
sniper has to be the most talentless thing you can use in this game
when is the spear nerf/rework gonna drop cuz i'm tired of someone tapping m2 and instantly turning me into a fine slurry
Bring back head2head
embark i beg, dont tell us "spawns are better" in cashout and then not make spawns better
something something matchmaking something something
Melee rework in S11 is on the roadmap.
rip head2head... forever in our hearts as the best game mode.
Lagging every single game and have to restart the game and reconnect for it to get better
DAY 2 of asking for Head2Head to be added back
dev note regarding returning the sniper to full hit scan makes me laugh. The fact thats even on the table shows how little you understand whats good for the game. Glad Arc Raider players are starting to see your poor long term track record too. I wish nothing but the best, but not enough changes that need to be made happen.
NERF CROSSBOW.
nerf the difib its m season and all i do is kill 1 die and like nothing happend when no help from teams
sys horizon is an awful point break map. way too hard to attack, defenders have so many sight lines to ping at spawn and flank attackers, points are too far away to rotate easily or build momentum
Instead of nerfing and calling it a buff, why don't they remove CL40 entirely? It's a low dps weapon with many handicaps: slow projectile speed, limited ammo, long reload time, hitbox bug on direct arm hit, AND the very unnatural multiplied self damage which makes it an easy target for melee and generally easy to counter simply by coming in the face. Did they really think that +5 damage will compensate for that? I understand the frustration of lights who are facing CL40 spammers but there would be many ways to solve that. The splash damage modifications would do the trick.
people like this shouldnt even be in the same lobby. its a 50k difference.
small playerbase, queue times, blah blah.
i dont care about queue times, these idiots literally have nothing to do in their lives if they're already diamond in 2 days, make them wait the extra 15 minutes in queue for a "fair" lobby
when are we getting capes as a back attachment instead of being attached to the chest piece? Hello?
RIP
Can you guys please fix when you are trying to report someone at the end of a round, and the box where you are typing in minimizes when it switches screens for the post match reports? it is very annoying, and it doesnt save what you are typing.
lights need more weapons or a buff on some of them being a light it feels like the medium and heavy have better to weapons which i get maybe be due to the fact the light has a movement advantage but its lwk to big of a gap
More advanced version of calling for cl40 removed?
Bring back Head 2 Head
u can place like 38k, it's only like 5 games + placements to get diamond
The smurfs are out in droves tonight
bring back head2head âïžâïžâïžâïžâïž
THE EARS OF THE ELF HEAD SHOULD POKE THRU ALL APPLICABLE HAIRSTYLES. LITERALLY UNPLAYABLE
"because one thing on light is overpowered we're going to buff this other thing" this company gotta be slow istg
idk how many people agree but due to me having jittery aim when i flex my thumb too much i would think true zero deadzone would be very nice for controller players so i wont have to accidently flick when im trying to be precise
Okay, let's try to provide some actual substantive feedback on WHY crossbow is a problem, and why it's kind of odd they implemented it like this in the first place;
- This is just speculation right now, as I'm not even certain if it's a hitscan or projectile weapon, with the only evidence of such so far being that the trophy system gadget shoots it's bolts: Due to, presumably, the same reasons as the throwing daggers, it's headshot hitbox and general hitbox are both a bit more generous than non projectile weapons, hitting a bit further away than hitscan weapons. This is normally a tradeoff for the throwing daggers, but for the crossbow it has none of the ranged weaknesses in travel time.
- The dps is high, but this is not just because it's damage is comparative to the pike. Unlike the pike, it has none of the hipfire inaccuracy it has, and has almost zero recoil over range. this is understandable; in fact, the crossbow should really have zero recoil at all, considering... well, it's a crossbow. The problem is that the combination of these three creates the best CQC weapon in the finals right now, completely outshining TWO different weapons in their own category, the p90 and pike, and impinging on the Lever action as well.
- It has no travel time worth mentioning, and it has no arc. They balanced a hitscan crossbow like it had either of these things, and this is the result. I have to question if they just forgot to code those in, as the lack of gravity or arc is ludicrous with these stats. And even then, it would still be a cqc beast.
In conclusion:
- Give it actual travel time
- Give it an arc
- Remove it's recoil, because it's a damn crossbow.
- Give it a longer reload OR lower fire rate, but not both.
Trying to rank up through silver/gold. Havenât not been knocked out the second round onece by a full diamond team once. Ranked is so broken.
Thats every night.
BLUE RAZZ OSPUZE. I REP OSPUZE TILL THE DAY I DIE.
This game is already chronically allergic to the color blue and i need my blue and to rep Ospuze.
also, where the regular jeans without the MASSIVE belt buckle
model reload needs to be changed. It feel worse than any gun ive ever used in any game. That's not hyperbole. Never have I been unable to fire a shot during a reload of a single shot weapon. I have ammo. Let me shoot WHENEVER THE FUCK I want to.
i would love a solo type of game mode i feel like it could work. i cannot bring myself to play competitive without my friends. but if there was a solo mode iâd be playing all day
GIVE PRIVATE MATCHES SOME ATTENTION! It makes no sense that party sizes are too large, I canât adjust timers, set rules, etc. Why does no one talk about this? I have had so much fun playing this game since S1, but matchmaking gets rough and unenjoyable so why not allow us to play how we want to in private lobbies? Modes like Heaven or Else and Heavy Hitters should be possible to do in private lobbies; such possibilities are what made titles like Halo absolutely memorable and forever respected. The Finals truly is riding on the edge of greatness, but the limitations are too crippling.
Yes!!! How is head2head taken away from public but possible in private? And party size is too large??
make crossbow a unique weapon instead of a dmr clone please
Increase the projectile size of CL-40 to 20cm it would be so funny
add sex update guys
Bring back h2h and terminal attack.
BRING BACK HEAD2HEAD!!
It would be cool to make the "random selection" for skins be per revive instead of per game
New game mode idea:
Hull breach
3 teams of 3 compete to capture the flag from the fourth teams base which has 8 players and the fourth teams objective is to hold the flag for 1 minute each minute gets them 1000 points
each time one of the first 3 teams capture the flag they get 2000 points
(first to 20000 points wins)(time limit 20 minutes)(eliminations get 500 points)
Bring back Head2Head
I understand youâre having a good challenging experience, I do mostly, but then I get put in a game that should never been a match. My team of random going against greatly coordinated teams and all of us go 2-8 k/d. Dying and realizing they are diamond players from season 8 ( Iâve never been ranked higher than gold) thatâs an issue, a skill issue, a skill gap issue, a matchmaking issue.
Look at your seeding, Did you saw how much you can get for hitting first place?
We have rush already, please add conquest 32v32 đ
CANNOT ADD FRIENDS, FIX THIS ASAP
How many more fucking seasons for Thermal Vision to come back. Iâm tired of these fuck ass Invis lights always hiding in vantage points
You've missed the reason that the Grapple is such an under picked option in comparison to the Wave Dash. people don't pick Wave Dash because of its recharge rate, they choose it because of its on demand mobility. something that the single Grapple Charge even when slightly buffed to have a slightly shorter cooldown cant match.
Even with the one second shaved off of its cool down time, you're still a sitting duck for the next 7 seconds while you wait for the Grapple to recharge. meanwhile you can pick up Wave Dash and get 3 instant dashes to help throw off an enemies aim. Hell, you could nerf the recharge down to 10-15 seconds per charge, but giving it that second charge is going to be the major deciding factor between this being a worth while pick and just remaining in the garbage can
Yall gotta stop favouritizing medium like this. Its not good for game health.
Add more snipers to the game more far range and close ups make it where u can change the mods on it like better scope or bigger magazine
the cheaters in asia are getting very out of hand please do something
This new MVP system is great, and I really like the idea, but the calculations behind who gets MVP need serious adjustment. I just got the most kills by 5, most combat by 2k, most objective by 1k, and most support by 100 and still only got third place, despite only having one death more than anyone else.
do you guys even play your own game? like 5 people use the double-barrel and you make it worse. I'm about ready to uninstall this shit man. I play something off-meta since season one because everything that everyone else plays is fucking boring, I get good with it, and you ruin it or make it much worse, this is the second time. I went from consistently having 2kd or better (my record last season was 21kd) on TDM, to having between .8-1kd just from this terrible change alone. The spread nerf did not help fights at range, and it made fights at close range even harder. This change may have been good if the net code wasn't garbage, but I have 2 fucking shots with a stupid ass cool down between them, and a 3 second reload and the hit reg is bad on a good day. You guys have made questionable balance changes since day one.
@wide creek I would upvote your comment so hard if embark wasn't a bunch of cowards and didn't disable it.
May we please get PSSR for those playing on the ps5 pro? With the new update/upgrade I'd reckon the 120hz mode would get a boost in clarity and detail with this upscaler.
Thank you for your time, love the game
Fix the lag... A bunch of friends were getting into the game and have now rage quit because every couple of games is laggy as. We are all in Australia, connecting to oce. One game I will lag, another game my team mate will lag. The chances of all 3 of us playing without one lagging has gotten so bad they no longer want to play. It is not client side. This will kill the game...
SO done with this game
Lights are just fucking fodder at this point.
Every ranked game is HHM, MMH. Heavies just sit in corners with a heal beam or a heal ball, throw shield, and winch enemies into a zone of absolute death, OR spam C&S when they're dying, OR throw up shield and suddenly OOPS no more kill for you.
WOW YOU BUFFED NULLIFER, THANKS SO MUCH. Oh but what's that? You nerfed the one thing that keeps lights viable in high level gameplay? Gee I bet that's gonna work out so well.
As a light there's literally no way to push a HHM or MMH team. Poking them? They just heal. Glitch them? Lasts 6 seconds, they still have the TTK to kill you if you engage, doesn't actually give you any advantage. Pop your head out for 1 goddamn second? RPG'd, shot, dead.
They have RPG (110) and C&S (100) (what's lights HP? Oh yes, 150), they have shields, heals, WINCH, and to top it all off they have weapons that flatline you, as a light, in 1/3 the time it takes you to kill them.
And now you just gave Medium the literal LH1 minus recoil, THANKS! You know what's crazy it that its actually BETTER than the LH1. Nice added spec btw, not seen 1 single person use it.
Oh and remember Thermal? Yeah that thing you said would "Be back soon"? That thing you removed 2+ seasons ago and heard not a fucking peep about since?
I'm actually done this time. I've played this game for years loyally, waiting for you to put COMMON SENSE CHANGES in, but you spit in my face.
Nerf heal beam, or make it not possible to heal while in direct combat
REMOVE winch
Nerf RPG
Nerf mesh
Nerf M11 (Also an overtuned weapon)
Destroy the MHH, MMH meta like you destroyed lights sneaky steals. Prove that you fucking care one bit about balance.
We don't need an MVP system, we need a damn balanced game.
Yes I sound angry, cuz I've been waiting for 5 SEASONS for winch nerf so I have no faith in this team anymore.
@daring fossil 
For some reason I'm lagging, which I never had any problems with until the new season.
The only way to fix this temporarily is by un- and re-plugging my LAN cable but the problem seems to come back after a few minutes of playing, kinda annoying, I'm pretty certain this shouldn't be a problem on my end since all other games seem to work fine
Add the ability to change sights at the shooting range; it's incredibly annoying to constantly go to the lobby to change them and then load into the map
very wide skill range and barely could make to 4th against some ruby smurfs just to get 33 rs
Gyro aim on ps5 still has an issue where itâll auto recenter the aim whenever youâre shooting for too long. Please fix
BRING BACK HEAD2HEAD
Other modes are too chaotic, and you canât even create proper methodical, strategic gameplay because you simply donât have the time,with so many players running around!
Itâs really unbelievable that a game with this much depth wastes its potential on modes that donât let it shine as much as it could.
Almost all other modes fall behind in this aspect, whether by a little or by a lot. Head2Head had the best fundamentals to truly allow strategic gameplay to stand out, far more than the most modes and the main reason is the number of teams playing on a map at the same time.
ALSO CANT EVEN BELIEVE HOW MATCHMAKING IN A GAME CAN BE THAT OFF!
since seaon 10 i get the red latency icon in 70%-80% of my games where i get really bad delay and currently cant play my internet is fine overall please take a look at this issue
Add more transparency on account messages.
When someone gets banned let us know their name or atleast what they got banned for and how long.
When making rank score adjustments based on fair play, let us know how much RS gained since at the moment it feels like nothing is gained
What do I do if my game stuck at "waiting for other groups to finish"? Waiting for 5 minutes already with my team
Add a solo mode. would be really great and can add so much more chaos and fun
Chimera does way too much damage for how easy it is to use. And I dont even have great aim. No recoil, good at all ranges, with that much damage is crazy
For the sake of consistency I think itâd be nice if defib always revived players with half their mag remaining. I donât really see any benefit to the current way.
Chimera needs adjustments - more range, less dmg. Crossbows are meant to be really long range but getting hit by a arrow is less deadly as getting hit by a bullet.
and also... Embark... You need to shake Up the meta... Like literally do big big changes to gadgets.
I like the idea of melee rework but it should be here during medival season..
MACE SHOULD BE A NEW WEAPON FOR HEAVY - Fast swing - less dmg - poison status effect - burn status effect that would be fucking EPIC... But nah... You gave us skin for a shield...
ALSO if you dont introduce long sword or great sword as a hammer skin with unique animations i will be dissapointed in you....
CASTLE MAP IS NEEDED.
Nerfing dash because of higher usage rate is such a letdown when what we wanted were more appealing specs that let us use them mid fight like dash
It feels horrendous now for anyone who was already used to the movement that had stayed more or less consistent for the past years
optimize the game better, older modes/maps are dog shit on low settings with ultra performance but the new map and is running perfectly, please fix this game
bring back head2head.
head2head? đ đ
Add phone number verification to least start with getting rid of smurfs please.
Even if it's not 40Âș,as long as any form of aim lock exists,sword will have the most idiotic handling. Since the rotation clamp is clearly the biggest thing that makes the weapon unusable, it should not exist in the game at all.You should just revert sword back to how it was in S1 and S2, when there was no multi-hit. Sword back then was a bit weak, but thatâs okay. Itâs better than receiving a dumb patch that destroys the weaponâs original identity, even if itâs a weaker weapon.
Because you thought sword was weak when there was no multi-hit,you patched multi-hit in.But because your obsession with keeping that led to the dumbest decision, even removing mechanics all other weapons have.
Every weapon, when in close range, can naturally move behind the enemy or slide behind and look back to hit. And dagger is a weapon specifically designed for that. So are you going to add aim lock to all weapons? Why, sword canât look back like all do? Every weapon can naturally look back. But sword alone is restricted from doing that? Why do you discriminate only against the sword by calling it an âexploitâ when all melees and weapons can do it?
Wildly spinning the aim actually wasnât used, It was used only in very rare cases dumb enemies were stupidly stacked in one spot.
If you want to solve the problem, then just remove multi-hit.
Even if spins wildly, theyâd only hit one target. That solves the problem. The problem was solved without unfairly messing with the controls. Of course, dmg must also be reverted. Just revert it to S1.
Why you have to ruin swordâs identity thatâs been there since its release just to appease the nerf whiners? M1 spam on a 150 HP class is not good. Whoâs the narrow-minded person who decided on a patch like this that ruins swordâs identity by thinking âmelee should just be dumb M1 spam?
Why do you ignore feedback from actual users of the weapon, Why are melees being treated unfairly? Just revert sword and melees nerf.
Let me turn off auto mantle.
Some hair on the Arch Rival face make her look bald in game.
And let me use ping without the modifier button when using the Modifier Button Equipping preset for my gadgets.
why does new platinum look terrible, new is first pic
Why can you melee, through the medium shield. Thats the entire point of a shield
a good third of tdm players has walls. it's just clownery at this point
Bring back Head2Head. Removing this mode was, beside this new âSeasonâ, one of the most idiotic decision a developer team could have done.
"season"
"season"
gold lobbies have 2 3 stacks of rubies/diamonds
how does this happen
is the game this dead?
Honestly seeing the roadmap has let my hype for Season 11 a little down, knowing that besides the Melee Rework we are only getting a new Cashout map, and that the Big Update will be on Season 12..
Season 11 looks like for now just a transition to Season 12, but we will see I guess.
WHY IS THIS GAME SERVERS SO LAGGY
Why is it that in Cashout someone who doesn't connect at all isnt kicked from the match so the rest of the team can leave without penalty? Being forced to sit in a round for its entire duration as a 2 man team is extremely lame and a waste of time, esp when leaving results in a penalty for you, not them.
can someone help me with discord quest? it doesnt show on the quests tab in discord. yes i restarted discord before you ask
The removal of H2H is the worst decision they've made this season
Bring back head2head
Came here to say basically this.
Feels more like 7-10 have already been transition seasons. I swear the whole pro esports attempt threw everything off, seemingly permanently.
Stale metas, mid content, fake teases, and stacking all the new stuff in one class. Something feels rushed/ sloppy about s10 which is wild af because 7-9 were even more limited in thier scope.
Is performance way worse in s10 than ever? I know it usually goes down each season but it's so laggy now
matchmakings sucks as hell.
why do i have to play against ruby and dia 1 in cashout, when i was in plat 2 last season?
Head 2 Head was a pure experience of the Finals. It matched skill vs. skill instead of Quick Cash, which a rng third party simulator. QC basically non-stop fighting and who wins is who spawns in at the right time. H2H allowed for real strategy and had a great pacing to it. I havenât logged in since itâs been gone. Please bring it back. Que times on NA servers for all modes is less than 2 minutes even in the middle of the night, idk know why it would be removed.
The hitscan vs. projectile situation needs to be addressed. Seeing very little change to the sniper this update is very disappointing, especially since making it hitscan again was on the table. The reality is that the BFR Titan still outperforms both the sniper and the KS (which are sniper like projectile weapons), while the âtrue sniperâ is effectively a pistol.
Iâm not complaining about the BFR being useful, itâs just that it renders the KS and sniper almost useless by being hitscan. Damage falloff means nothing when, in range, I still have to account for bullet drop and movement with the sniper. If the person Iâm shooting at just dune sandworm walks, they survive.
Heavy as a class is already oppressive enough with its moderate damage, high ammo weapons. It really didnât need a sniper pistol. I also see the spot the KS is in. I think it would have made more sense if it were pulled more in the direction of the Titan, and honestly, the Titan probably shouldnât have been made in the first place.
For the KS to have its own niche, I think it should definitely have more environmental damage. That way, it can remain comfortably a projectile weapon without needing to compete directly with the BFR. But then again, why would you pick the KS when the BFR outperforms it? An interesting addition could be giving the KS the ability to pierce through thin walls with damage falloff. That would make gameplay with and against it more exciting and add a new element to the gameplay.
When it comes to the sniper, I thought maybe reducing its damage to compensate for making it hitscan would be enough but then you have the BFRâs damage values, which makes no sense. This goes back to my main point: the BFR puts both the KS and sniper in a bad position. You can try to create a new niche for the KS, but any sort of nerf to the sniper just makes it feel more like the BFR. Itâs a bad situation overall. I think either the BFR or the sniper/KS needs a major rework.
Itâs also odd that only those two firearms are projectile based while everything else is hitscan.
Now add the new medium crossbow to all of this. For some reason, itâs a hitscan weapon. If anything should have been a projectile, it should have been the crossbow. As it stands, it basically renders the pike useless, because why wouldnât you pick a hitscan crossbow with very similar DPS that can also hipfire decently? None of this makes sense.
Third parties are probably the worst thing in this game. It's just not fun and no way to counter if a team waits last second to wipe a weakened team and steal cashout
Maybe they'll do something about the Lights already? They have no chance of survival.
Especially against the Heavies, who carry flamethrowers and sledgehammers.
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When you play a Light, you expect speed, not "here are 3 dashes with a 7-second cooldown each." So what, those 3 dashes will go off in 2 seconds, killing one enemy, and then what? Run and hide? You won't have time! Your Light isn't as fast as they make you think; the Heavies or Mediums are catching up.
Let them reduce Light's HP, but give them more speed; other classes shouldn't be able to keep up.
I'm also amazed by the sword's hitbox. Is it random or something? The sword lunge is something else entirely. They nerfed it so much that now even if it hits an enemy, the damage might not register. BUT THE SLEDGEHAMMER, IT DON'T CARE WHERE, WHERE, OR WHAT PART OF THE ANIMATION, IT'LL JUST KILL YOU, EVEN IF IT'S A SWING, EVEN HALF A SECOND AFTER THE HIT. THE SLEDGEHAMMER WORKS GREAT. OH YEAH, WHY DOES IT HIT A SPECIFIC RADIUS AND NOT LIKE A SWORD - ON POINT? As a last resort, maybe add the ability to hit people on the head with a sword? For extra damage? NO? WHY?
That's my opinion.**
Fire your balancing team
they already nerfed sledgehammer for you guys, now its useless.
its used to be semi-competitive but now anyone running meta who has a brain will almost always win even if you catch them out
day 36 asking for a free moolah peluche
In season 10 I experience lag in some matches, as if it were latency. This has never happened before. It's incredibly frustrating
not only when i tried to queue into cashout and it saying there was a connection issue and trying to reconnect and getting the same pop up, while the issue only being fixed when i restart my whole game and then going to win the whole tournament and then seeing this? the amount of rage im holding back in this message. how can yall say yall made the game more stable but im experiencing so many more issues than i had before while also seeing people not connect to the same lobby after reconnecting after restarting my game
Same
The new XP/rewards screen does not include Equipment level ups. I miss seeing the new dye jobs appear as new gadgets/guns are released.
Can we please get rid of the small demon that shows up when you get a kill and tells you find his lairđ
Okay, hear me out on this one. At some point, add an Exploration mode to go between all the maps and variations. And while in this mode, you have access to a unique primary camera-based weapon to take pictures of the arena to share with the community. This is inspired by photo games like Umurangi Generations and Shutter Stroll, with the first having more story to the settings, which the Finals could do with its Lore if wanting that extra spice. Recommend that one highly. Anywho, I think this would help market the game, offloading that burden upon the devs and sharing it with the community since teamwork makes the dream work.
Would be nice if it was possible to bring out shock blast using q without insta using it and using for example left click to activate the blast instead. Would make it much easier to use and bring it inline with activation of other medium specs
Beside ranked, there shouldn't be any suspension.
There are already way too many ragequiters in cashout leaving you in a 1 or 2v9, unless you're a cheater or nolifer you aint winning that
wasnt matching with people like this supposed to be fixed?
Can we remove this stupid cashout spot or at least move it so it doesnt get stuck like that????
Dude I'm stuck in Bronze because I always get someone in my team that throws or leaves the match. I've been put twice in a row in a ranked match with someone that I've blocked for griefing/throwing the game.
I regret trying to play ranked for the first time since Season 3.
i would love some gateway inspect animations! a juggling one would be really cool
no. if you paid attention you woulda heard that he said max rank difference for parties is 10.000 rs difference
The crossbow feels like a reskin pike but less recoil,sure it looks cool but feels boring,too similar to pike.
The weapon looks like a crossbow but feels like a nail gun
I always suggested a crossbow for heavy with a scope for long range snipes but it is a projectile with high drop off for skill expression.
U can still make it happen make a semi auto harpoon launcher for heavy.
For medium we need a claymore sword with primary attack having wide swings and holding alt deflects some bullets and holding alt and pressing primary attack will cause a downward swing.
If u manage to hit the head then it's critical damage.
Make doubling give 75% of total cash value instead of 100%. First cashout, when doubled, should give 12k instead of 16k.
MVP screen first place in powershift why combat score instead of objective play?
I donât really like it, because for example in Power Shift there are snipers who just farm kills with basically zero objective score. They just sit there waiting for someone to be dumb enough to step onto the platform.
Half the match ends up being âfeed the snipers.â
Meanwhile Iâm playing Heavy â I turtle up with flamethrower, mesh shield, healing ball, barricades, dome shield â and I usually get like 8000â9000 objective score, but at least 5000 every game.
Yeah, I die a lot, (A LOT) not gonna lie. Sometimes Iâm basically solo holding it down, we still win, but I end up with like 3â4 kills and 8-10 dead. Iâm basically the one going up there to die or being the target.
So it was kinda surprising that with my last âthank me laterâ match, Iâm nowhere on the MVP screen â even with 5000 support score and 8000 objective. Meanwhile there are players who never even step on the platform, basically 0 objective, just farming from range.
Still no winch claw nerf
Still not worth playing
As the steam charts obviously show
guys what the hell is going on with your anti cheat this season - you claim its better and for last season maybe it was for a short period. but for real this start of season is infested with blatant wallhackers and aimbotters - not even just in ranked but in cashout as well... you have a known hacker #2 on your ranked leaderboard and is also #5 on Cashout. is also running around with a season 9 ruby badge and headshotting people with BFR from 150+m away. Can you please just review how you guys process and intake bans and reports because whatever you are doing now is not working. love this game but the amount of cheaters right now is almost as bad as season 1 and the beta tests.
we are suffering with only 8 loadout slots, with so many weapons and specializations its imposible to main all 3 character types getting about 3-2 slots per type. we need more loadout slots not outfit slots
Dear Embark,
what in the everloving fuck are you doing about the cheaters in this game, besides not a god damn thing?
Hello, help me contact someone from The Finals development team, I was banned from the game, but I didn't use anything, describing everything in detail and providing evidence, I get template answers, this is not answered by a living person who could check everything carefully, please, we need help, the anti-cheat may make a mistake and we want to thoroughly check our account or at least find out the exact reasons for the blocking, we are hurt by the injustice and the situation, please give us a contact of a person who could help, we are not asking for a verbal breakdown, we are ready to fully explain the whole situation that happened, I have over 1000 hours in the game, a lot I've invested a lot of time and money, I wouldn't risk my account.
Quick cash is horrible always getting 3th partied and joining late game with trash team
No Head to Head= stop playing
- Defib refuse button. But only for 10-15 seconds at a time or until my respawn delay is ready, that should be long enough to change loadouts but not long enough to be abused to indefinitely stay dead and AFK farm WT pts/XP.
- Killcams background performance improvement
- Map voting in QP, map bans in Ranked - players have more agency over our lobbies, the dev team gets to see which maps are played on more or less so you can decide what's in a healthy spot or what needs optimization or rebalancing. You are already experimenting with Starlight Hollow 24/7 in Point Break as its own playlist for a month, the team could have gone without that if you did something like "to kick off our NEW map voting feature, we're giving our NEW map Starlight Hollow a big boost in the Point Break voting pool for the next 3 weeks!"
- nerf Healing Emitter and H+Infuser, not sure why we needed more of this in the game to begin with
- Gadget/spec numerical cooldowns instead of amber square filling up - buried in ping menu does not count and does not currently work for tablet gadgets
- Let me change optics in practice range or mid-QP
- Detailed weapon AND equipment stats in-game such as cooldown, RPM, effective range, damage (radius), duration...independent from The Finals Wiki
- Detailed career stats or at least match history
- Game replays (I understand this is one of your most challenging tasks)
- Let us designate a different group leader in lobby
If we get these in season 12, I will buy 9007 MB
fire whoever had an idea for a crossbow
this is only a 5k difference, they can't be beyond 10k difference
Add Bonus Pages to Legacy Battle Passes.
Remove penalty for leaving a cashout match when randoms disconnect and don't come back.
Fix ranked. This includes smurfing, RS gain/loss, goals, placement screen.
Fix servers, cut down ranked from 24 to 12 players if it helps.
Season 10 : Fantasy Medium League
Maybe you will really do something for the poor netcode/tickrate servers
10k diff is so dumb it doesnt stop smurfing lmfao đ
this new map is heavily one sided, did you guys collectively play a few games together with this, or did you just call it a day after finishing it?
also why is there still no replay in this mode????
I've genuinely logged off everyday feeling a void/nothing casual to play. (I mostly love the worlds first Cashout mode.) Sometimes I don't want to be forced into 30-45 min tournaments for the core experience... H2H>TDM & QC
(QC barely resembles anything other than random chaos.)
stop using anybrain
i like the ltm where you get to play the new map, but why remove h2h for it? also the new crossbow feels really good to use & i beg don't nerf it, instead buff it's competition and counters
Melee rework boring edition
sledgehammer
increase main attack damage to 140 but each swing sends the enemy back 5 m
and increase secondary attack damage to 240 but sends the enemy back 6 m
spear
increase the damage of the final attack in the cycle to 145 damage
Increase secondary final attack damage to 210
Riot shield
Whenever youâre not blocking your shield is despawned but whenever youâre blocking it blocks all damage types and the shield sizes increased by 30% and covers your feet and your turning speed is not hindered while blocking
(they can make it easily make it block melee because the dual blades can consistently additionally it can easily block flamethrower because the mesh shield can)
Dual blades
Deflecting does not damage you
Sword
Whenever you hit someone with a secondary attack, it doubles your momentum
Dagger
Increase secondary attack backstab radius to 180
While holding the secondary attack you movement speed is not hindered and you can sprint
Why does the Reed Requiem (Skin from the ultimate battlepass for the CB-01 repeater Pag. 40) make such an awful sound when you fire it? i get it's supposed to be a flute, but it sounds like a kid is practicing next to your ear, and some of the notes are so high pitch that legit throw you off.
This game is amazing. Best PvP I have ever played!
indeed
not anymore, Head2Head is missing