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verbal breach
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how does he know 😭

wide void
wild verge
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dagger backstab is really well balanced doing 320 dmg whilst having only 250 health on medium and 350 on heavy 👍 👍 👍

tepid violet
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Flashbangs r a little to crazy

wild valley
smoky sluice
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makes a lot of sense to make a game with low playerbase unplayable for people with mid range hardware to get even lower playerbase. until its just the last few people that love the game enough to buy a 4090 for it

@uneven dagger u can like kyoto all u want, the design is very nice but otherwise its just harming the game

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brittle obsidian
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all it needs is a teeny tiny hipfire nerf, it encroaches on the other ar's niches a little too much.

finite galleon
nocturne trench
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120 FPS and mouse on console 🗣️🗣️

delicate basin
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Defib should have a little light that turns green when it will actually work

uneven dagger
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nobody likes kyoto mf's when I like kyoto

waltersad

deep summit
hollow badger
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nerf 50 akimbos, theyre super good at close range, middle range AND long range, with no downsides

lost talon
cyan gale
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Either nerf medium or buff ligth and heavy. The meta is basically Defi, nothing else. I like World Tour, but want to play with something other than a Defi, Jump pad and granade.

primal mantle
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Increase the number of pellets on the Model 1887 but keep the total damage the same.

This way, if you partially miss a shot then it punishes bad aim while people that put in the time to lear the range and pattern are rewarded for more accurate center-of-mass shots.

inner karma
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Is SBMM on the radar anywhere in the next 2 years? Ive been getting games where one team all players drop 20 kills and everyone else in the lobby goes about 3-7. not really a fun game when youre constantly fighting for 2nd

faint saddle
tired bear
autumn kettle
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Playing on PlayStation, the new update has inverted the equipment wheel, change it back or allow an option in settings to change it according to preference. For example if I try to select the bottom gadget the input is inverted so I now select my gun which makes selecting gadgets from the equipment wheel counter intuitive.

river fern
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how do I get 16k total score from a match and only get 400~ fans? feels immesnley hard to actually level up at all in the sponsorship.

slender socket
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Hi Embark
, this Rondell a.k.a. BanditRex94 one of y’all fans I would say number one fan but the leaderboard says otherwise 😢, but when basketball season starts y’all should make a limited basketball game mode when the contestants got to shoot a vault into the cash out machine to “BANK IT” with low gravity 1 vaults, 2 teams, 5 contestants to a team with 2 cash out machines for each teams can have their own cash out machine to “BANK IT” full court 😎

icy marsh
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That’s -19k elo because of Solo Que teammates being bad at the game….

From plat2 - gold 4. I place top dmg and obj almost every round. I play light so I plug objectives first with gateway, set a good pace, get info, get chip damage, never die first, put gateway on point, play defuse, distract, play off teammates engagements, revive.

But my teammates are actually actively throwing some matches, while others they just don’t know how to play and it makes for unpredictable interactions.

It’s really frustrating.

wide void
quick coyote
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settings are reset again

smoky sluice
neon burrow
royal gust
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FEEDBACK ON RANKED SYSTEM:

As a top 600 player this season I just wanna say the ranked system is really bad. I gain 200 for an ultimate win but lose 1k points when you lose.

The main reason the ranked system right now doesn’t work well is because of the fact you get punished so hard for getting “grieved” out in the first round. Sometimes its your team vs the other 3 and teams will team up and not shoot eachoter to grief you out because your team is intimidating.

Then u have to win 4,5 matches and play 2,5 hours approximately to regain everything you lost within 10 minutes. I think this system right now isn’t fun, fair and rewarding.

Players around 42,500 RS should be treated way differently because its too demotivating and scary to have to perform a 90% winrate or otherwise you’re wasting ur time playing the game.

If people disconnect in your team, you get punished immediately and improperly and if people cheat u get punished either on top of the risk that teams are grieving you out.

Please reform this system so it’s more rewarding and engaging for higher leveled players!

Thanks for listening!

lost talon
red echo
magic cosmos
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games awesome

inner karma
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Add a solo-only queue. I hate getting into a 4 team game where 2 teams are obvously queued together, making it so there is almost no way to win

tired bear
river fern
quick coyote
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@subtle solar @dense niche some players in this case the player @fringe hatch is verbally abusing the in game chat to tell someone with broken glasses to delete the game. even tho this person @fringe hatch is playing light thinking he can take on 3 people and a sentry alone.
can you please fix the report option so problematic people like this can be taken care of?

brittle obsidian
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A high damage shotgun has no place on medium. An anti-dive weapon like that is incredibly unhealthy to have on the only character capable of healing and direct support. Medium's other anti-dive weapons like riot shield and dual blades work because they can deny pushers with their defensive abilities (ideally), while being super committal since they're melee weapons. This is far healthier for the class since they rely on your team being present to capitalize off it instead of just annihilating the pusher instantly while still being capable in team fights and 1v1s.

So in short, nerf the model's damage output, increase its range, and buff riot shield and dual blades to block damage more consistently so they're less of a throw pick.

faint saddle
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A friend pointed something out to me—why the hell does the sword lunge charge (a big-ass metal object) happen faster than a kitchen knife that’s just being held at a different angle?

For those who care, here are the numbers:

Dagger charge time: 0.81 seconds (technically 0.8, but it’s inconsistent).
Sword charge time: 0.5 seconds.
Let’s break this down: The sword has:

140 damage on lunge, which can one- or two-shot every class from any angle.
A lingering hitbox (0.3 seconds) that makes it forgiving AF.
No directional limitations—you can wildly turn around mid-charge and still smack someone.
Meanwhile, the dagger:

Needs a backstab to shine (but hit reg on backstab can be awful sometimes).
Punishes you with a movement penalty immediately when charging, making it easy for a heavy to outrun you. A HEAVY.
Has worse left-click DPS and requires way more precision to even be viable.
Oh, and the cherry on top? The sword can charge mid-air, and the dagger used to have something cool to balance that (RIP emote dash). Now the sword just dominates in every way.

My Suggestions for Fixing the Dagger:

Remove the walking speed penalty while charging.
Or delay the penalty to start after 0.8 seconds.
Better yet, make the charge releasable at 0.6 seconds instead of 0.8 to make it feel snappier, like in Season 3.

smoky sluice
obsidian timber
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why are we only getting the hanging platforms in world tour now?

untold hazel
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Nerf stun gun or delete im fine whit both

hazy shore
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melee shouldnt be 40 dmg @surreal meadow bless your heart, boy

surreal meadow
hexed terrace
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Thanks emabark to let the triple medium meta exist since the release of the game 👍👍

keen lily
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the matchmaking is so ass it's impossible to climb in solo queue because when you are doing well you are getting bad or new players as teammates, the game expects you to carry everything which is impossible at 35k+
it's especially visible when you get 2-3 bad games in a row and then suddenly you get really good teammates

@ripe verge XD I climbed once to 39,7k, twice to 38k, multiple times to 37k but always in between there was a huge drop to around 31-32k, all because of this weird matchmaking, I don't like the idea that I need to be able to carry at specific elo, didn't have to until this point

ripe verge
lilac coral
cosmic narwhal
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day 18 of asking for a ready up button

umbral swift
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Please remove visual recoil/inaccuracy from sights and give an option for the crosshair settings to be visible even when ADS’d. It only artificially increases difficulty at the cost of gameplay clarity and is unfun.

jagged vector
wide void
copper blaze
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The stun gun really is too OP.
It freezes you in place, prevents you from performing actions like stealing a cashout, impairs gadgets and skill use. That's way too much for one gadget to do.

proper crescent
brittle obsidian
lament finch
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I have a idea what if they put kill/death effects u know like when sonic loses his rings

hexed terrace
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I LOVE MEDIUM META
I LOVE MEDIUM META
I LOVE MEDIUM META

gritty umbra
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hey embark, yall gonna do anything about your fucking sbmm? no?? still a problem since s2? got it

serene perch
oak kernel
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There's a bug that makes a team highlighted through walls like they're spotted all match. Anywhere to report this?

Tbh an unacceptable bug

smoky sluice
lament surge
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great job on the game balancing embark

smoky gust
# proper crescent It also doesn't stop you from shooting back unless you're on light in which case...

you wouldnt have died regardless
light is made for evasion, you get shot by 1 bullet and starts strafing, dodging, so you often get to apply skill and survive
this cant happen with stun gun in use
one player gets their core class feature removed, and just has to sit there and act as a target dummy
while the other one is actually allowed to play the game and avoid shots

stun gun with sh1900 specifically is a problem when playing light
stun gun can you hit from far away, eliminating the low-range risk factor sh1900 normally has
and once youre stunned you cant dodge sh1900, removing pretty much all remaining counterplay
it basically counteracts db's downsides in the wort possible ways and turns it low risk/high reward

melee users also just cant fight back or get away at all, theyre free kills too

while swapping to any given gadget, youre already taking damage (and in case of sh1900, you get 1-shot as light, so you wont get further than this)
once the item is in use and can actually protect you, heavies are more often than not already down to 100 hp by then (everyone else likely dead)
after which the light can just walk around barricades/goo, wait out a dome shield, killing you once its gone or even just run in and burst you down

dying should not be this uninteractive for the victim, and kills not this easy for the user

i think stun gun should disallow gadgets and instead allow specializations
those are way more reactive, allowing for actual timely counterplay
almost every single one of them can aid in your survival (so it doesn't force you to waste a slot for it, unlike gadgets)
and they would likely be strong enough to at least make survival decently likely

wheat ridge
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your respawn logic sux

surreal meadow
quick coyote
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Fix spawns

burnt notch
hexed terrace
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Fix spawns
ADD GRENADE INDICATOR
Change M M M meta
Pls embark

pliant glade
# smoky gust you wouldnt have died regardless light is made for evasion, you get shot by 1 bu...

"dying should not be this uninteractive for the victim, and kills not this easy for the user" this shit right here, i'm fine with the concept of stun, but the irony that it just drops another light, god forbit a melee one, without any worry at all, is just a little ridiculous. The only way a light can save themselves is with a goo, and that's if they're even lucky enough to get it off in time, not like it's not already harder to use it to since the goo nerf. There should be counters to a class or build, but not outright destroyers to one if that makes sense. Also, plus one to the Weapon Mastery Skin, this would be fantastic for people who are willing to grind but aren't one for Ranked. This, world tour, LFG modes and special contracts plus sponsors? Boom casuals are ecstatic hell even ranked players too

bitter iris
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role queue was good for overwatch proof being goats meta in overwatch. 3 tanks 3 supports that lasted for a incredibly long time this also killed the dps role how they solved goats and prevented it from ever happening again is by implementing role queue the problem with overwatch wasn't role queue it was brig and baptise and the fact one of them makes people immortal and the other one basically could 1v6 the entire enemy team and took very little skill to do so in the finals light is unusable in ranked why it's because you can have so many heavy's or mediums why play the class with 150hp when you can play the class with 350hp and a 750hp mesh shield and a 350hp dome shield why play the class with 150hp and some cool weapons when you can play the class with 250hp and a shotgun that two taps every class

smoky sluice
jagged cedar
tired bear
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whats with the server issues embark

can your servers not handle one of the main gimmicks of the game

fully destrictible arenas

pull it together embark

vital flare
rocky plover
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When's Embark actually going to take action against the cheaters in Diamond and Ruby

faint saddle
pseudo leaf
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current fcar feels like it loses to every other medium gun fights. High rank players realize that famas is actually really good and can hit pretty much 3rd of there mag headshots. akm and fcar almost has the same time to kill with more ammo. Old fcar had an personality.

devout gull
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Here is my concept of a team deathmatch mode that could fit the gameplay of the finals

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zealous mural
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the grind is fucking insane and cringe. the amount of cheaters is nuts. the absolute unbalance in world tour lobbies is crazy. still not nerfing the dash is crazy.

little shell
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I defend almost everything about the game, but Visual Recoil has got to go (the bullets always coming from center of screen). It serves no purpose towards immersion, does not make anyone's game feel or play better, literally nobody likes it or wants it, and the only actual effect is that it makes 3rd party crosshairs an advantage. Bullets should just shoot from wherever the sights are pointed at. The sights can have as much recoil as needed, but if the bullet travels from the sights, it's at least fair game. The worst thing about it is that it makes people think the game is worse on a technical level, because the bullets are not hitting where the sights are on -- it just makes it seems like the gunplay is wonky, the game is having no-reg's, or the servers are just bad in general. No party in benefits from having visual recoil -- neither the players nor Embark.

worn crest
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Please fix the grapple 🙏🙏 I keep on getting stuck on objects because there is no hitbox for the string and I’m going crazy bc of it 😭

queen knoll
gritty abyss
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Make RANKED LOCKED to L,M,H for the most competitive and balanced experience!!

copper canopy
# burnt notch

or even better, a 1500 multibuck pricetag that 50% of the plats and above will buy

stable path
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embark please fix your colourblind settings, i cannot tell the difference between my mines and pink/purple team mines

smoky sluice
deep sierra
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Soo there adding another shotgun to the game but this one has three barrels wow. We don't need any more shotguns. Y'all can't even balance the ones already in the game.

fringe hatch
burnt notch
keen lily
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the fact that I have a positive k/d ratio in almost every game and because of that I get the dumbest teammates possible is incredible, why am I addicted to this dogshit game

surreal meadow
late basin
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Why does the tutorial message thing show up every time you go to the main menu or any menu honestly?

wide void
# bitter iris role queue was good for overwatch proof being goats meta in overwatch. 3 tanks 3...

No, no, no. Role queue was a bandaid fix because they couldn't just nerf tanks properly. The game fell off when they added role queue because it still had balancing problems and just less play variety. And queuing was slower.

You can make Light better by buffing their gadgets/specs/weapons and maybe even changing fundamental elements of the game to better accommodate them. For example -- not that this is required -- they could make them revive faster and Heavies revive slower. Or defib could revive with exactly 100 HP no matter what class you are (better for Light, worse for the other two).

mortal notch
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buff xp it feels like im shooting thumtacks at ppl. just buff it back to 18

verbal bane
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Light doesn't need a buff.

Light is the least winning class because the overwhelming majority of players who choose Light are bad players. Bad players choose Light because they don't want to play the objective, they want either to snipe or focus on kills, and most of the time are trash at both.

Great players choose Medium and Heavy because they have the most strategically and tactically beneficial gadgets to support the team.

Light players complain about the 1887 killing them quickly when the TTK is the same as the Pike or FAMAS, it's just interpreted as less because it's only two shots.

Nerfing weapons won't help bad players become better, it will just make the game more difficult for the top 10%. You might see "some" increase in TTK with nerfs, but realistically as long as poor players choose Light, Light will continue to lose.

Dear Embark,

Please don't listen to the bad players who are crying for weapon nerfs. The problem isn't the weapon, the problem is the players.

quick lichen
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There should be a harsher punishment for people who choose to leave wt and ranked. No punishment if they were disconnected. But I keep getting into WT or ranked and the second we start doing bad a teammate leaves. And it ruins the rest of the match.

Or maybe a priority requeue for the teammates that stayed in the match? It sucks waiting for a match just for a teammate to ruin it 3 min in.

upper saddle
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Embark I am begging on my knees- please give us more gadgets and specializations, weapons are nice but they don't freshin up the game nearly as much as new gadgets and specializations do, they don't give us that whimiscal feeling of something new and magical, new weapons give us this feeling of "Oh that's cool" or "That's gonna be busted" but new gadgets and specializations are the key to hype and making people excited for the new season, they freshin up the game play loop and add creative solutions to problems we face in the arena beyond "I'mma shoot em" and I would love to see new gadgets and specializations being added in much greater bulk than we've seen in Season 3 and Season 4.

pastel flax
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Would really love more map variety for Power Shift.

dark niche
dawn aspen
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Do not love losing 1.1k in ranked because one player never connected and other DCed after 10 seconds.

bitter iris
# wide void No, no, no. Role queue was a bandaid fix because they couldn't just nerf tanks p...

It wasn’t a Bandaid fix my proof being role queue is still the main way you play the game plus the devs and all the pro players a have said that role queue was better for the game you can also see this as a fact by looking at how many people play open queue vs role queue role queue has many more players than open queue because it’s better to play open queue if you play role queue on overwatch 2 you won’t see anyone play dps why because support can heal itself and others and make you and others immortal and tanks have high damage output and lots of self sustaining abilities there for why would anyone play the class with low hp no self sustain and can’t heal others or make themselves or others Immortal the reason light isn’t played in ranked is for a couple reasons one it has very low hp pool two it has very little ability’s that help the team 3 its has a very high skill ceiling also role queue has been in the game for many many years now

unborn garnet
# dawn aspen Do not love losing 1.1k in ranked because one player never connected and other D...

i haven't played ranked much this whole season. I don't want to be stressed out by constant sever issues and possibly be suspended due to terrible server connection.
All of s4 have been terrible server issues. Being forced to exit and launch game just to connect to every new round, ghost connections, waiting minutes for an error code to pop up, getting random black loading screen in-game and then be pulled out of the current said-game and then be pushed into an entire lobby with new teammates. These server issues are unacceptable

neon kettle
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Powershift should count towards the Earn 1,000,000 cash in total

smoky sluice
wide void
# verbal bane Light doesn't need a buff. Light is the least winning class because the overwh...

@river magnet Bro, Model is a literal instant kill against Light in melee range, and it allows full mobility and full accuracy to still do 128 damage at range. Pike and FAMAS don't one-shot Light, let alone two-shot unless you're standing still and hit headshots... and Model doesn't need to do EITHER of those two things. Not to mention it being burst damage.

Medium and Heavy are overused and Model is overused. You could see both of these in the official tournament recently. Light's low winrate is not because "erm most players are bad." It's because Light has a high, above-average skill floor yet provides almost nothing that the other classes can't, even at top-level play. The main thing they do is flank and kill quickly. Guess what Demat + Model/Revolver can do while defibbing and providing team-wide mobility? Guess what Deagles can do while busting through walls and sitting behind shields?

Even if we ASSUME the "the problem is the players," how do you propose we get Model to not be used like 50% of the time? Wait another entire year and see if it just magically stops being overused by then? You'd rather frustrate the majority of the community who wants it nerfed just so you the minority don't have to cope?

Model needs a nerf. Period. Doesn't have to be huge. 120 damage instead of 128 is probably all it needs. But it needs it.

@bitter iris You are completely ignoring the part where OW2 is 5v5 and they made the tanks super buffy to compensate. No shit they kept role queue -- they designed OW2 with it in mind. And no shit DPS aren't used in OW2's open queue.

DPS WERE used in OW1 even during GOATS meta, because they had utility over tanks sometimes. All they had to do was nerf tanks, and they arbitrarily restricted the number of them instead.

@smoky sluice You do earn cash. It shows it in the round. But it doesn't count to your career stats or challenges properly

V @blissful bridge We can buff some items. Model must be nerfed

blissful bridge
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I think the constant nerfing of weapon damage and recoil has hurt the overall enjoyability of this game.

We need to build up the lesser weapons instead of tearing down the weapons and gadgets that actually feel good and fun to use.

Keep balancing for the "competitive" side of the community and it'll slowly erode everything good.

deep summit
rough storm
scarlet robin
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riot shield could use an increase hit speed

verbal bane
# wide void <@1271721200715825226> Bro, Model is a literal instant kill against Light in mel...

What should really happen is Medium's other weapons should get buffed to bring them in line with the 1887.

FAMAS and Pike have been nerfed already because of whining Light players.

It's an endless cycle of "nerf, nerf, nerf" because Embark is listening to the whiniest crybabies.

EDIT: I can, and do, play all three classes.

I play Medium because it is simply the most strategically valuable with heal/defib/zipline/jumppad.

sage sonnet
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Embark, you need to reward actually speaking in voice chat. The experience is 100x better when you coordinate with your team.

unique cedar
quick lichen
# verbal bane Light doesn't need a buff. Light is the least winning class because the overwh...

Let's just assume you're trying to argue in good faith instead of insulting an entire portion of the player base. In that case lights need a buff to their viability, whether that is more gadgets that help them defend the cashout or help out their teammates. Or even just some more health.

"Bad players choose Light because they don't want to play the objective" Stop acting like this is a light only problem. It's not. The amount of Medium and Heavy teammates I personally have had that walk away from the objective is astounding.

Sounds like you tried to play light, didn't have a good time, and now you want to complain. You're literally offering nothing to the conversation but salt.

red arch
clever hawk
bitter iris
# wide void <@1271721200715825226> Bro, Model is a literal instant kill against Light in mel...

you could not be anymore wrong goats is rein zara dva and lucio moria brig no where in that team comp is a single dps listed and you just said they designed overwatch 2 around role queue which means it isn't a bandaid fix because they could have took out the game with overwatch 2 guess what that means YOU ARE WRONG @wide void btw if you don't believe me look it up @wide void LOOK IT UP

granite kettle
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the buttons are hard to click in game like the mouse cursor doesnt line up with the button , and the game is hard to minmize, but 10/10 love the game

copper canopy
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Get ready to be muted

wide void
# verbal bane What should really happen is Medium's other weapons should get _buffed_ to bring...

Like I said, we can buff some items including M ones. I want CL-40 to do 105 dmg. I want FCAR to do 23. I want Explosive Mine to do 125. I even want Pike to do 50 again, just with a slower firerate, slower reload, etc. But that doesn't change the fact Model needs a nerf.

You think Lights whine for nothing? Embark stated their winrates were low and then nerfed their weapons multiple times in the same damn update. And then in subsequent updates after that, too.

You say yourself Medium is the most "strategically valuable" -- do you not see this is just another way to say they're OP? They provide the most value. They have good area denial, good survivability and mobility, and great TTKs -- so no wonder people want the class most dedicated to damaging people to at least perform equally well?

@bitter iris Good Lord, man, do you really think that is what every team played throughout all of GOATS meta? They mixed it up. I was there. I was fucking Grandmaster. Roadhog sometimes had better damage potential, Ana had better healing potential, etc. And DPS sometimes came in handy for picking off healers, mostly snipers and divers. They could have fixed goats by, again, nerfing some tanks, adding a negative tank passive, or even buffing tankbusters like Junkrat or Reaper. They instead added role queue as a bandaid fix to Overwatch 1 and then just stuck with that design for OW2. I'm not saying OW2 used it as a bandaid fix, I'm saying OW1 did. Get a grip. Role queue would kill The Finals.

sleek flame
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Having 80% of my health chunked off by a shotgun is crazy

smoky sluice
tired bear
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@bitter iris @wide void
ay this is a feedback channel not an argument channel

keep that in gen or dms

i get it, you two both think youre right and the other is wrong

you two bickering is not going to get embark to fix their game

daring fossil
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pyro nades need to do more damage on direct impact and more tick damage. throwing a fire nade on someone directly, for 24 damage (i don't even know how this happens because it's suppose to be 40) and 3 tick damage when a flame thrower can kill me with tick damage after being burned directly for 1 second. but I wholey agree, the radius needs to be bigger. What's the point of using them as a denial tool when people can just walk through them because they do no damage, or even stand in them for 6+ seconds to steal.

surreal meadow
rough storm
devout gull
neon burrow
tulip steppe
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Please fix the freezing thing on console. Every time I go into the main menu the game freezes for like a good 30 seconds. It now kicks me out of parties.

next pike
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not fun to play against, no counterplay, no reason for it to exist

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versed cloud
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Nerf triple medium

hexed grove
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  • Nerf model
  • Nerf chain defibs
  • Nerf Charge n' Slam
silent fog
vivid agate
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I would love to see light get an H&K G36c or something of the sort, smaller rifle that acts as an in between an smg and assault rifle, could also work on medium but I'd love to see Rifles on more classes like we saw with pistols on heavy, I think the gun fits the game very well too

burnt notch
scarlet robin
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can we get the ak .50 on Heavy?

verbal bane
# wide void Like I said, we can buff some items including M ones. I want CL-40 to do 105 dmg...

It isn't that Light doesn't perform well because of balance issues.

The problem with Light not performing well are the dogshit players who choose Light and then get upset when they stand in the open and get shot.

The probelm is not with weapon balance, the problem is with poor players.

EDITED to add: If you watch youtube vids or vids in this server of Light players complaining about getting trashed by the 1887 you will see every single time they are within 1887s optimal attack range. They're too close to the 1887 players. They are dying to the 1887 because they are too stupid to learn how to counter it.

"The Problem With Light" isn't balance, it's terrible players skewing statistics.

EDIT 2: Regarding cashout firefights often being indoors - Light has C4 and access to explosive barrels / canisters. Destroy the building around them, grenade spam them to death, pick them off, and then move in. None of these things are impossible to do if you can keep your wits about you during a match.

EDIT 3: If you are a team of 3 Lights you better be damn good because the class is unforgiving. The problem with teams of 3 lights is most of the time the players who choose an all-Light team do so because they are bad players and don't think about balancing the team. Let Medium and Heavy go in and get the cashout. Light should be running around scouting and flanking.

smoky gust
onyx tiger
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let teams choose where they spawn on a map overlay. ban spawns within 35 meters of cashout. within 70 meters of cash, make teams emit a giant beam into the sky of where they spawned and with a loud audio cue. past 70, have only the audio cue be very loud but not the beam. past like 150 make no noise and no beam. Have teams spawn in with a defib animation anywhere they pick but the closer they are the slower the animation. like im talking if you spawn 36 meters away per my rules you gotta show a beam, have june and scotty yell it into the arena, have a giant audio cue and also have you spawn for like 5 or so seconds. lots of values to adjust but the agency over spawn location will make alot of teams happier.

rugged temple
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Nerf model ❌
Remove niche dagger tech ✅

wide void
# verbal bane It isn't that Light doesn't perform well because of balance issues. The proble...

We went over this. If the whole playerbase has issues using Light, are you sure it's the players, or is it Light? You can't just say "Medium has the most value" and then say "Light is balanced, you're just dogshit." Choose one.

And you know most cashout fights are indoors, right? And you know that Model users can instantly evaporate the damn walls? Of course Light can't always create distance.

sand hazel
thorn socket
upper citrus
wide void
# sand hazel this is really it. the reason why you get so many medium stacks is a bad medium ...

That's half the picture. Yes, of the 3 classes, Light has the highest skill floor and demands the most effort to do well with. But they also don't reward well enough for how much skill they take. No matter how good your aim or movement is, you will almost certainly do better with Medium or Heavy. Because they can kill just as quickly while also providing mobility/heals/defibs/traps/demat or shields/barriers/traps/destruction/winches.

Light is underperforming because of bad game design/balance. Period.

Also gimme 5v5 cashout pls

stoic swan
#

please fix the desync im so tired of dying when im already behind cover

gaunt spindle
#

Hello everyone! I don't know where else to go for feedback so I was hoping maybe someone knows anything about this.

Why was this season made so much grindier? The last levels in the battle pass need 100k exp each, and I have already finished all the contracts except 2. Where am I supposed to get the rest of the exp needed for those 5 levels in the battle pass?

tulip steppe
#

Please fix the freezing thing on console. Every time I go into the main menu the game freezes for like a good 30 seconds. It now kicks me out of parties.

versed hazel
sharp estuary
#

Day#8 Please, fix and buff the dual blades

midnight aurora
#

make powershift count towards the earn cash challenge. no reason for it to not

whole plover
#

can you guys please fix the servers....... extreme lag on the game (european side). i have good wifi and good game optimisation. I see it on pc and console. A lot of friends of mine have the same issue

smoky sluice
brittle obsidian
jagged vector
polar blaze
wide void
# gaunt spindle Hello everyone! I don't know where else to go for feedback so I was hoping maybe...

You see, Embark needs player numbers and money, but can't be bothered to fix or add content more consistently. So they made the game grindier hoping to develop an unhealthy psychological affliction like "anxiety" to keep you playing -- maybe even pay money -- even when the game is not really that fun anymore. Hope that helps.

@jagged vector As we discussed in many replies already, Light does not run well enough or gun well enough to make them relevant in the meta. It's not "the playerbase's fault" that Light underperforms. Medium can kill just as fast and can arguably run away even better than Light can sometimes considering Demat, Jumppad, and Zip.

V @half python TTK is mostly fine for most weapons. A few weapons have too fast of TTKs. Everything else you said is valid though

half python
#

Last time I played this game was a little under a year ago and it seems that nothing has changed other than skins and battlepass shit. The balancing in this game is the worst I've seen, the heavy class dominates everything else with no competition, low level players are almost always put on the same team, time to kill is absurdly high (mostly for killing heavies), you spawn 15 miles away from where you need to be, among other things. How this game still has an active playerbase and positive reviews is beyond me. The concept is great, the gunplay is great, the graphics are great, the destruction is great, the balancing and matchmaking are shit. I know I'm not alone in this as all my friends who've played have had the same thoughts and don't play anymore. I saw these same criticisms a year ago, and nothing has changed. Chalk it up to a skill issue all you want but a class shouldn't have more health AND more damage with the only drawback being slightly decreased movement speed

neon burrow
rough storm
#

200+m spawns while you're tryna defend you're cashout WHILE there's still a teammate defending. Wtf devs?
Opps spawn closer to your cashout than you. Let alone the first cashouts. This season is all about waiting on cashouts and stealing so you get the plug cash. Has nothing to do with skills anymore.

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sand hazel
# wide void That's half the picture. Yes, of the 3 classes, Light has the highest skill floo...

I'd have to hard disagree. Light thats work with a team are invaluable. they can get the plugs which is the current meta. as well as finish off and get the picks that run from your slower teammates. individually yes they are garbage in comparison but when you focus on the main point of the game which is to work with your team they can be the backbone of the team.

also 5v5 cashout sounds like a nightmare

cold scarab
#

We need INGAME music performances. Just like fortnite but music from people like "Papa roach" or "Shinedown"

dark niche
#

may as well call this game the final shotguns at this point, Model, Double Barrel and Heavy shotgun doing 220 damage with a single shot is naughty

bright nexus
#

NO MORE ranged challenges, I hate USING light sniper and I hate GOING against it, just trying to get distance makes the whole lobby go after me to tbag when I’m just trying to do a challenge, it sucks so damn bad

surreal meadow
jagged vector
#

Nah, lights are still quite powerful not to mention they can get away quite easy with their dash invis, grapple or stun gun. It just seems like you want to be run and gun with a light but that’s not what the lights are meant to be. Kinda skill issue

merry steppe
#

please make it so we can listen to music from old seasons. season 2's ost was amazing and now its gone

crystal storm
#

what is this shit
Contract details
headshot 25 opponents from a distance of 35 meter or more ☠️
You didn't want to fuck anymore

versed hazel
#

idgaf abt nothing else in this game, just delete kyoto already. horrible map

uneven dagger
#

WAAAH WAAAAH tantrum

cunning locust
#

Delete this triple medium model defib meta. This game is about strategy and tactics not constantly reviving and healing.

  • Buff Dome shield and Mesh shield
  • Nerf Model
  • Limit the amount of L/M/H to 2 picks, so there is no triple M anymore, not part of this game all heal, defib and model
    What has become of this game Season 1 and was PEAK of this game now i am literally on the ferge of uninstalling the game.
solemn sedge
#

add amethyst skins plz (more progression skins at least) . im E1 and completed battle pass i need more stuff to grind for funsies.

fast moat
crisp heart
#

hud safe zone

echo urchin
blissful bridge
#

If Embark keeps nerfing whatever item is "meta" it will slowly erode the enjoyability of the game.

Stop nerfing items that are good and fun to use.

Start buffing the items that are sub-par.

vapid drum
#

Rework Revolver please embark

quick lichen
#

Add in the visible foot and weapon indicators like Fortnite has.

Also Light by itself is too weak, they're only strong when they have a coordinated team. Or they're the best in the lobby by far. The problem then is getting that coordinated team, basically an impossible task if you solo queue.

wide void
# sand hazel I'd have to hard disagree. Light thats work with a team are invaluable. they can...

@jagged vector Plugs help during knockout rounds, but... They don't guarantee wins, and they don't apply to final rounds at all. Plus Medium is pretty good at plugging just by themselves with Demat+Jump+Zip.

Faster running and evasive dashing helps pick off runners, yes, but so does dematerializing or charging through walls. And @jagged vector, like I said, Medium can get away even better than Light in some circumstances with Demat+Jump+Zip and having 100 extra HP to work with. (Invis is dogshit btw. it's not true invis. it makes very obvious noises that give you away easily, too. don't pretend that's a Light strength)

So of the two Light strengths you listed, I wouldn't honestly say either of them are done well enough to necessitate Light in place of another Medium. And again, the other classes barely do any less DPS than Light. Hence why the meta involves zero Lights lol. It's not a "sKiLl iSsUe" when the majority of the playerbase thinks and plays like this.

And what's wrong with 5v5 cashout? New 5v5 mode for casual fun that doesn't involve triple party fights, and it actually makes use of the cashouts.

@cunning locust role queue would kill this game overnight. ask for better balancing instead.

@blissful bridge we can do both. buff underperforming options and nerf Model.

drowsy pilot
#

i like this game fr

versed cloud
#

Make to where melee weapons always smash arena props on the first hit. I shouldn't have to melee spam to get unstuck from props.

smoky sluice
rough storm
# wide void <@596129357609828352> Plugs help during knockout rounds, but... They don't guara...

Half the player base been begging to solve the Model defib and spawn problems. They are straight ignoring all of us. So no matter what we ask for, they don't bother looking at what goes on in the game and community.

@foggy nymph Neetly constructed arguments you got there. Shows how well you can objectively analyze feedback. Very impressive!
Except for light sword last season, i've never "complained" about anything cuz maybe season 2 was peek finals. But hey, you do you mr furry 💀

foggy nymph
rapid stream
surreal meadow
dire herald
#

Okey, I don't know how fans system works, all the people I asked says that they earn 600-1000 followers for match... I tested all modes and the most that I can earn its a 600 usually its 200 or 300 followers. I tested all the archetypes and i dont think that i am bad player usually I usually win in the top of the match. I wanna know how the fans system works pls.

@wooden atlas diary contracts counts? I have all sponsor contrat finished except the last week

wooden atlas
# drowsy pilot i like this game fr

Same here, despite all the complaints I still find it consistently fun. All we need now is grenade indicators Embark—give us that and I will be happy

@dire herald You get a certain number per match based on your score and a much larger bonus amount if you complete contracts

fading flame
#

Delete Kyoto

tulip steppe
#

Fix the freezing issue on PS5. Every time I go into the main menu after a game my screen freezes for like 30 seconds. It’s so annoying and i can’t play in a party because when it freezes I leave the party. Please!!!!!! fix this issue

tight prairie
#

Anyone tryna run ranked im in silver tryna push gold but I can't with randoms

median pawn
#

Daily feedback to add a leave penalty - That is all.

gaunt spindle
cold scarab
burnt notch
wide void
# foggy nymph If they nerf defib and model into the ground like the vocal minority of players ...

How many times do we have to repeat it for those in the back? Look at the stats. Look at the official tournaments. MODEL AND DEFIB ARE OVERUSED. Period! If the MAJORITY of the playerbase plays (and succeeds) with these options, then they need a rebalance. It's not a "skill issue" when it's the WHOLE PLAYERBASE.

Show me the last time you ever saw a Medium NOT using the defib. Put your money where your mouth is. Or are you too busy crutching on it?

btw add 5v5 cashout pls ty

jagged vector
# wide void <@596129357609828352> Plugs help during knockout rounds, but... They don't guara...

You just said it your self “some circumstances” lights invis has to make sound or else you can’t see them or even know where they are. There has to be a counter of that and that’s literally the only counter. The only way to counter in this is to play as a I light because they have thermal if they were to remove the sound then they need to bring back radar senses, but make it as if it’s like a lights sonar grenade not the way it was before because seeing through walls and stuff is overpowered obviously and a straight broken. I also agree with the other guy that yeah by themselves lights aren’t that good. They aren’t gonna win a 1v2 but if they were together as a team, they will win. The lights have really powerful weapons and they have a good kit. They’re the recon. They are not supposed to be running gunning they do damage they run away or they scan. And for other abilities, grapple and stun they totally are good abilities If you’re in a sticky situation, you can just grapple away or stun them. The stun gun is literally a free kill. You can’t do anything against stun gun. And it is a skill issue if you’re not playing lights as they intended to be played. And I think the player base isn’t saying that the lights are so weak I think it’s more so that medium needs a Nerf with the shotgun and the D fib which I agree because it is annoying to go against triple medium with those things.

Medium is the healer they’re the support. I think that they should keep the D fibs the way they are, but if you’re a medium and rezed medium and you have Defibs you have a cool down before you can use them similar to as if you just revive somebody .

drowsy pilot
#

just a bunch of complains just enjoy the game fr

rough storm
# foggy nymph If they nerf defib and model into the ground like the vocal minority of players ...

"Skills Issue" ain't the problem since i'm maining the Model too now as i'm forced too. The only thing killing me rn is Model users and lucky nades. I'm just completely done with being forced to use a weapon i don't enjoy playing with just to stay in high elo.

What makes Model OP?

  • You can deal 128 damage in 0,000 seconds, hide and evade damage by jumping around like a schoolgirl and repeat this untill your opp is dead. By the time you finish off your target he will never have done as much damage to you or it has to be a CL or another Model user. There is no other weapon (but CL) which you could do this with. It does 1/4th more damage than an RPG. And it's almost impossible to lose a 1v1 except perhaps from a double barrel or sword user if played well.
    (aka: 1v1's aren't about skill anymore but who starts firing his model first.)
  • It's the ULTIMATE third party weapon as you just let em fight and go in when all opponents are damaged so you can literally 3-hit a whole squad or what's left of em. Even if all 3 start beaming you, you can at least finish off 2 players so your team can very much do the rest.
    If you all go in together no one stands a chance as one's reaction time will Always be slower than the TTK it has. Especially in this steal and plug tripple M defib meta this game became. AKA: Luck > Skill
  • In engaging fresh teams you just let your other teammates go in, support (heal) them and once slightly damaged pull out your Model and again, ONE HIT everyone.
  • Model is a very agressive weapon so combining it with the supportive gadgets and medium spec is completely unbalanced.

SO: lowering the damage so it wouldn't 2-hit mediums would solve a lot already, but IMO? The Model 1887 should be switched with the KS-23 (heavy shotgun) cuz the skill ceiling on that one is way higher and acts more as a support weapon.

EDIT: Also "vocal minority" ? my dearest are you living under a rock?

smoky sluice
junior temple
#

Community challenge this go around is a little too specific. Last minute steals are already harder to pull off without having to troll so you can be the one to steal.

A lot of people won't be able to contribute because of how competitive the cashout modes usually are

foggy nymph
#

Hey I wasnt attacking anyone in particular, more the people who frequent this channel and endlessly bitch and moan about the current thing they want nerfed. The ones who post the same thing "day x of asking for y" and wonder why the devs aren't immediately jumping at the chance to appease you people. The weapon has clear counters with its slow fire rate and reload as well as suffering from range. It is a skill issue. And yes, the people who frequent here are the vocal minority.

valid bay
#

Please fix the servers and matchmaking. Losing 1200 RS because a team mate never connected or keeps getting kicked mid game is not okay.

woeful arch
midnight aurora
#

if i had time to kill a heavy on the platform with the riot shield then that should be long enough to stop the platform from moving.

atomic drum
#

Need more contracts please, need funny bonus levels

upper citrus
wide void
# foggy nymph Hey I wasnt attacking anyone in particular, more the people who frequent this ch...

I'm not saying invis should be totally silent. I'm saying it should be totally invisible, though it would need rebalancing in other departments to make it fair. Regardless, it remains unreliable in its current state because it can be seen. Also, glitch traps and grenades and damage reveals them, not just thermal vision.

Like I said, Light does not do enough DPS to make the "hit" in "hit and run" work often. Medium and Heavy both have multiple weapons that delete Light in 2 to 3 shots. And then they can chase Light around or through walls.

But yes, nerfing Medium and Heavy a bit would help Light by comparison.

I think that that would be an okay Defib nerf, but I think it'd be better to be able to destroy the holograms through damage or glitching.

@foggy nymph For the last time, it's not a skill issue when it's the damn meta. It doesn't do 128 damage from 50m away, sure, but that doesn't mean it's balanced. And Defib is borderline unpunishable. YOU are the vocal minority. So again, show me a Medium not running defib, or stop "bitching and moaning" as you put it.

sonic spoke
#

please show all damge since 100% health in kill feed

rough storm
# foggy nymph Hey I wasnt attacking anyone in particular, more the people who frequent this ch...

-You said I have a skill issue while, again, i'm rekking everyone with the Model as i'm forced to use it now. Has nothing to do with skill? Only issue is I don't wanna be forced to play it anymore and loved the time this game was skill over luck & randomness. Also back then there was no 1 meta and you could play anything and win vs any meta if skilled
-Yes people "bitch" about weapons they get killed by and don't know how to counter too quick, but i'm not one of them. Before i started using it i played all roles & got killed 75% of the time ONLY by Models and lucky nades. The other 25% of the times i can honoustly say i got outplayed by someone who is better or i fumbled myself. Now it's just who fires his Model first wins.
-We wonder why devs don't jump on it cuz the model problem has been adressed for a second season now. Meaning MONTHS. And when they try n solve it they completely miss the point by thinking range was more problematic than it's damage.
-Slow fire rate is no problem as you can just hide the time you spend 'waiting' for your next 128 damage shot
-The weapon has no counter but range in this CLOSE QUARTER COMBAT game.. bruh
-So how is it a skill issue exactly? Arguments please & don't be another one of them ppl that contradict theirselves
-People that "frequent here" are mostly players that play the game often so which, IMO, are the most important voices.
Wanna laugh? Type in 'model' in your search window upper right corner and watch the amount of players that actually spend time tryna give feedback addressing it's ridiculous and then we continue talking. Cuz other players just quit the game after one match again or even uninstall after just trying it out.

And before you form a comment again please come with actual arguments tryna counter the points of my previous essay cuz else i'm not gonna waste any more time on answering this argumentless debate. Cuz saying "no it's not. Source: Trust me" is just wasting everyones time including your own

rough herald
shadow nebula
gusty pine
#

Yo when I’m on the platform why can the other team still fucking win? Like it’s still being contested tf you mean eliminated

terse oxide
#

Toss this version of the contract in trash and exclusively use the team based one, please and thank you

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errant hornet
#

Dearest embark. Please 🙏 fix equipment wheel on mnk. Please 🙏 fix the bug that keeps removing my weapon cosmetics and emotes. And also Please 🙏 rework the "blast caster" achievement. 😳

rough storm
#

Soooo true! I think the fact that the majority of cashouts (aka objectives) are close quarter focussed or indoors, which favours cqb weapons, caused it all.
I loved the time (aka S1+2) before all that. Now most of the time it's just randomness over skill. Especially with this steal and plug meta and the dumb spawn locations. I don't understand how its fun to wait at cashouts to 1-shot them w model. Or taser/glitch trap/winch claw ppl, plug the box in and run.
I miss when it was actually about defending cashouts so you could clutch and throw good plays battle-wise. Skills ruled over luck back then which drew me to this game in the first place. 💔

dry plover
#

Please Rework Revolver

warm glade
#

can we get input based matchmaking? im on pc with controller and im tired of getting matched with mnk players. especially playing with friends who are on console

junior temple
smoky sluice
magic cosmos
#

games fye

stone hazel
#

am i crazy or is the fuse on the frag grenade like half a second longer than it used to be

woeful arch
crude saffron
#

revert the sniper "nerf" (you ruined the damned thing). it feels terrible to use

sleek spoke
#

instead of nerfing things start buffing things to until it goes back around and makes it so that thing that was going to be nerfed before isnt as good lmao

rugged temple
dark niche
#

Bring Console Only Matchmaking shit is getting worse every season for controller players 100% (Xbox And PS5 Only)

fervent coral
#

BRING BACK RECON SENSES

rough herald
unborn garnet
#

When are we getting a server update? Don't tell me s5 is gonna be the same as s4. Horrendous connectivity issues all of s4

quartz shell
#

maybe kyoto is so hated because of the movility? it depends much on your team's loadout and if you're playing with random teammates then its hard

upper citrus
woeful arch
errant hornet
#

Dearest embark. Please 🙏 fix equipment wheel on mnk. Please 🙏 fix the bug that keeps removing my weapon cosmetics and emotes. And also Please 🙏 rework the "blast caster" achievement. 😳

tired bear
#

how many times you gon post this

mortal notch
# wide void I'm not saying invis should be totally silent. I'm saying it should be totally i...

Most of lights kit is dependent on the enemies skill too dash and invis are near unusable high elo etc
And yeah
The “hit n run” system
/ making light the dps class just doesn’t work because casual players Bitch abt it
@foggy nymph the reason the devs haven’t nerfed model is because they don’t care about they’re community’s feedback this is what they said towards us complaining about model and fomo
“Ah made up problems I see” (I can’t attach the screenshot whilst editing but I’ll link it later if you haven’t seen it already)

echo urchin
#

Jesus Christ. I can’t tell if ranked is full of cheaters or the servers are so ass that it just seems like my opponents have esp and aim assist.

cold scarab
shy token
#

As we can all see, THE FINALS' community is deeply passionate when it comes to concept art and making drip. Earlier this year we saw the switch away from exclusive bundle pricing to individual items now being made available for purchase. This alone allowed a great amount of customisation and personalisation of the game. But @shy token is back this time to argue the case for community driven input.

By allowing the community to create fan-made concepts and outfits using available items, TF has allowed its community to creatively flourish. However, we think, and there are others who have considered this idea as well within the community, that new community made items should be given the chance to be official and in-game.

This would not be the first time that such a thing exists in the world of gaming. Warframe's 'TennoGen' is one of the best examples of having the community be involved in the creative process. This engagement's potential is virtually limitless and invaluable for the game's longevity and community. It can be further sustained by giving the creator(s) a chance to be awarded through a variety of ways, in combination or merely by themselves:
(a) recognition,
(b) in-game or IRL payment,
(c) but most importantly a free (perhaps personalised) version of the very same item that will be immortalised in the world of TF.
(DAY 89)

lost talon
#

finals 2 : 5v5v5v5 cashout [any trio composition game will never have solo queue]

clever hawk
#

Light
Cloak
— Decloak time: 0s -> 0.5s
— No weapon fire whilst cloaked

  • Reduce activation cost by 40%

93R

  • Reduce recoil
  • Mag: 21 -> 24
  • Add sight

M11
— DMG: 16 -> 14

Stun Gun
— Movement penalty ends after 75 DMG dealt
— Movement increased to walk speed

Vanish Bomb

  • Radius: 3m -> 4m

Breach

  • Priming delay: 2s -> 1.25s
  • Recharge: 30s -> 25s

Bore

  • Recharge: 45s -> 35s

Smoke

  • Cleanse detection effects

Medium
Turret

  • Startup delay: 5s -> 3s
  • Fully refund on pickup
  • Increase recall recharge by 50%
    — Add lock-on timer per class
    L: 0.75s
    M: 0.5s
    H: 0.25s

Demat
— Recharge: 10s -> 13s
— Duration: 30s -> 20s

FCAR

  • Smooth initial recoil

1887
— DMG: 128 -> 116

Defib
— Allow resurrecting body to be destroyed
— 10s cooldown upon being resurrected
— Remove iframes

Glitch Trap
— Connection: 0s -> 0.5s

Heavy
Mesh

  • Deactivation delay: 4s -> 3s
  • Deactivation delay when damaged: 8s -> 3.5s

Winch

  • Max range: 12m -> 15.9m
    — Winched players proximity: 1m -> 5m

Charge n Slam
— Max DMG: 130 -> 120
— Ramp DMG from 70-120 over 1.25s
— Subsequent DMG: 50 -> 30

M60

  • Improve hipfire accuracy
  • Allow bipod mounting

KS-23

  • Remove dispersion
  • Empty reload: 2.2s -> 1.4s

Akimbo .50
— Headshot DMG: 88 -> 77

RPG
— DMG: 100 -> 60

  • Cooldown: 45s -> 35s
  • Radius: +25%
  • Add knockback to epicentre

Grav Cube

  • Height: 12m -> 14m

C4

  • Cooldown: 30s -> 20s

Global
Health

  • Decrease health regen delay per class
    L: 7s -> 6s
    M: 9s -> 7s
    H: 10s -> 8s

Weapons

  • Reduce visual recoil

Frag
— DMG: 150 -> 130
— Add indicator

Flashbang
— Max intensity duration: 3.5s -> 2s
— Reduce view angle

  • Decrease effect on teammates

Gas
— Increase initial immunity by 0.75s

Total
Buffs: 28
Nerfs: 24

rough herald
uneven dagger
#

Get better pc’s CATGRIN

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tired bear
mortal notch
#

So when are we getting mnk support? It’s been 11-12 months of “working on it”

untold haven
#

please move request revive to another keybind half of the time im being baited by teammates trying to use specializations when they're killed

bitter iris
sleek spoke
clever hawk
#

The claim:
“On the technical side, we’ve tuned up a whole bunch of bugs and included some much-needed quality-of-life changes”

The result:

  • Game takes 60 seconds longer to startup
  • Game takes 3 minutes to load back to the main menu after a match
  • Game still fails to allow loadout selection in Quickplay modes

The solution:
Divert the millions of slaves you have creating overpriced skins and make them spend the next 365 days working on performance fixes that actually improve performance instead of making it worse

echo urchin
uneven dagger
#

delete this channel everyone here stinks and doesnt know how to write feedback properly, literally just do your own thing and disregard everyone here including me were all keyboard warriors who dont have anything else to use our precious time on besides insulting "whoevers in charge" of this or that in the game. were stupid, delete this channel

cold scarab
mortal notch
#

@clever hawk
M11 does not need a dmg nerf
Xp needs a dmg buff
Rpg is fine so is c4
Demat does not need a nerf
Turret does not need a buff
Aside from that pretty good
Thinking m11 needs a dmg nerf is pretty wild tho ngl

brittle obsidian
#

Make turret detection area a constant a 100 degree cone. The "scanning" only makes it annoying to use because it just decides to not look at the enemies sometimes. Also increase the lock-on time so console players have an easier time dealing with it.

wooden atlas
#

Add grenade indicators and remove the cashout in the bamboo forest in Kyoto. That’s all I ask Embark 🙏

frank holly
pearl breach
#

Please fix the cash given towards the Deep Pockets trophy on Playstation 5. I win games on Power Shift but the cash amounts I earn from wins doesn't actually change the percentage of me being closer to the trophy unless I play any other mode. Power shift cash in general doesn't count. The cash awarded in game on Power Shift changes my stats on my profile but doesn't count towards the challenges with money in weeklys.

clever hawk
# mortal notch <@583605171179880450> M11 does not need a dmg nerf Xp needs a dmg buff Rpg is...

M11 is a major outlier and totally negates the XP54, which is fine. It’s far too easy to spray with for the value it provides and I’d rather keep the spray potential so as to differentiate it from the XP. Desired power level of weapons should be closer to the XP.

RPG doing 100 damage is far too excessive for how easy it is to use. It’s a must-pick. The devs just stated they intended it for destruction, not damage, yet it’s still a fight initiator due to its damage.

Demat totally nullifies fortifications and is far too spammable.

Turret sucks at high levels but those changes are a net nerf to address its frustration factor, especially for noobs.

solemn arrow
#

The pirate skin will still be available and have those 2400 multibucks even after season end or no? Or no way to know

uneven dagger
#

The finals is dead mf’s when I find a match

Honestreaction

mortal notch
# frank holly Wdym... the M11 is an absolute outlier and definitely needs some sort of nerf.

It is a outlier because xp was nerfed
Xp was the
only viable gun (sword s1/2 and lh1 s1/2 were viable)
Now that xp is nerfed all the casual players are complaining abt it
Because every one is using it. But that doesn’t mean it’s op unlike model
@clever hawk I genuinely feel sorry for you if you think everything on light should be balanced around current xp
Xp just needs to be reverted to s3

polar grotto
#

Buffs that should be incurred

Sword, primary swing 1 more damage (can kill lights in 2 swings)
Riot shield, shield should be better at blocking
Dual blades, more dmg, faster attacks, better deflect
Spear, more range, secondary attack should be cancellable when not holding down secondary (shouldn't have to do the glitch) should damage 360
Flamethrower, should have a VERY slight increase in spread (larger area of effect)
M32, if it hits a player before it bounces it explodes otherwise explodes after 1 bounce
R .357, more accurate hip-firing
Dome shield, slightly more hp and having a effect that removes invis from enemys who enter
Explosive mine, either more damage or change the count back to 2
Frag grenade, more arena damage
Zipline, can be placed further away making longer ziplines or using secondary click can choose where it begins and ends

sterile yew
#

can spear get a buff on its spin attack, its dmg is fine but we need a way to cancel properly

finite wagon
#

an unspoken reason why heal beam and defib are overpowered is because the medium's 250 health allow it to have enough survivability to be able to tank out rezzing mid fights as well as allowing it to safely heal mid fights

livid raft
#

gimme back my mmr for making me 1 v 3 since the server crashed that is all

clever hawk
# mortal notch It is a outlier because xp was nerfed Xp was the only viable gun (sword s1/2 a...

M11 is an outlier compared to all weapons it’s competing with - XP, 93R, V9S, Knives, Matter, SH1900, Sword, Dagger - not just the XP. It nullifies them all in 85% of scenarios. They nerfed the XP due it dominating in exactly the same way, reverting that would be braindead. When one of its competitors - Throwing Knives - was buffed to a similar level the entire fanbase was rabid for nerfs. The power level is too high and must be brought down.

You think the turret shouldn’t be buffed, it’s clear what rung of the skill ladder you are on 📉 I suggested the changes to it I did for players like you.

smoky sluice
summer yoke
mortal notch
uneven dagger
dense ocean
#

day 68 asking embark
let console players able/disable HUD

outer flower
#

We need a feature where we can select the music we want. I really love season 1's ost. It would be cool to select the music for any season like fortnite or counter strike 2

clever hawk
tired ibex
#

Nerf first round knockouts. -700 for 8 mins first round knockout compared to half an hour for only +500. 2 hours of work can be gone in 30 minutes. Soo stupid

Also should do a daily rs gains or losses for cheaters being on your own or other teams. Constantly updating rather than putting soo much pressure end of season just to mess it up again from s3

mortal notch
carmine thistle
#

M11 needing a nerf has got to be the most out of touch thing I've heard this season

clever hawk
jagged cedar
latent charm
wide void
# clever hawk **Light** *Cloak* — Decloak time: 0s -> 0.5s — No weapon fire whilst cloaked + R...

I disagree with like half of these, but more importantly, you are asking for way too many changes and way too complex ones. Take one thing at a time. Ask to reduce CnS damage, not give it a weird rampup system and nerf its damage. Try reducing the stun gun speed penalty, not also making it just go away after 75 damage before you even know how well it performs with the speed change.

Also can't tell if you're trying to buff or nerf with some of these like Winch Claw.

You would shake up the meta entirely, but probably instantly create a new and maybe worse one.

nova solar
#

Stim-pack for heavy 👉👈

dusky apex
#

walling with grenades is crazy bro

tough frost
#

error code TFGE0001 happening a lot tonight, got kicked out of a ranked match cause of it which is super frustrating considering we were high seeded and winning, tried restarting game and everything but just kept giving that error code and saying server not responding, cannot connect you to a match

flat epoch
#

Pls enable the the remaining glowing eyes for the (arch rival/ cellshaded) face. For a while now I've only been able to use the blue ones.

clever hawk
# wide void I disagree with like half of these, but more importantly, you are asking for way...

It’s not hard to estimate how more than 1 change at the same time might turn out if you understand all of its uses, strengths, and weaknesses. Embark has done changes like this plenty of times. The vast majority of suggestions are just number changes too.

Some thing get both nerfs and buffs to address different aspects. Winch range is poor now and it hurt its utility, but the existence of frustrating, inescapable deaths persists because it reels players into immediate proximity.

spiral oak
#

@fickle linden pls address the rank penalty issue. I hate to get punish when there's only 2 of us in the team when the 3rd guy either didnt connect or left. Show us solo quers some love.

fickle linden
ebon kernel
drowsy wharf
#

Am I the only one who suddenly can't type while playing? Isn't this BUG fixed yet? Also, didn't you say that you changed the resurrection point so that players could avoid three-way battles? As a result, I have come down several times to meet with multiple teams, and I dare ask you what you have modified. Your genius game is so much fun.

dusky apex
#

the spawns are so much worse in quickcash when ur team has the vault and is near a cashout you often spawn within 30m of a full stack nowhere in ur teams line of sight and instadie

delicate star
#

Revert swords decreased length of the secondary attack’s hit sweep

ruby raft
#

every single time I play world tour or ranked with randos I am paired with people who disconnect or who do things like sit in a corner data reshaping things, it makes playing this game a waste of time unless my friends are on

safe belfry
#

There is one thing I think should be added, maybe let daily contracts give like 100 fans each

vapid drum
#

Rework Revolver please embark

compact ore
#

Hi , please fix blocklist on consoles thanks

clever hawk
#

Light
Cloak
˗ Decloak time: 0s → 0.5s
˗ No weapon fire whilst cloaked

  • Reduce activation cost by 40%

93R

  • Reduce recoil
  • Mag: 21 → 24
  • Add sight

M11
˗ DMG: 16 → 14

Stun Gun
˗ Movement penalty ends after 75 DMG dealt
˗ Movement increased to walk speed

Vanish Bomb

  • Radius: 3m → 4m

Breach

  • Priming delay: 2s → 1.25s
  • Recharge: 30s → 25s

Bore

  • Recharge: 45s → 35s

Smoke

  • Cleanse detection effects

Medium
Turret

  • Startup time: 5s → 3s
  • Fully refund on pickup
  • Increase recall recharge by 50%
  • Replace the scanning with a fixed cone of vision for consistent detection
    ˗ Add lock-on timer per class
    L: 0.75s
    M: 0.5s
    H: 0.25s

Demat
˗ Recharge: 10s → 13s
˗ Duration: 30s → 20s

FCAR

  • Smooth initial recoil

1887
˗ DMG: 128 → 116

Defib
˗ Allow resurrecting body to be destroyed
˗ 10s cooldown upon being resurrected
˗ Remove iframes

Glitch Trap
˗ Connection: 0s → 0.5s

Heavy
Mesh

  • Deactivation delay: 4s → 3s
  • Deactivation delay when damaged: 8s → 3.5s

Winch

  • Max range: 12m → 15.9m
    ˗ Winched players proximity: 1m → 5m

Charge n Slam
˗ Max DMG: 130 → 120
˗ Ramp DMG from 70-120 over 1.25s
˗ Subsequent DMG: 50 → 30

M60

  • Improve hipfire accuracy
  • Allow bipod mounting

KS-23

  • Remove dispersion
  • Empty reload: 2.2s → 1.4s

Akimbo .50
˗ Headshot DMG: 88 → 77

RPG
˗ DMG: 100 → 60

  • Cooldown: 45s → 35s
  • Radius: +25%
  • Add knockback to epicentre

Grav Cube

  • Height: 12m → 14m

C4

  • Cooldown: 30s → 20s

Global
Health

  • Decrease health regen delay per class
    L: 7s → 6s
    M: 9s → 7s
    H: 10s → 8s

Weapons

  • Reduce visual recoil

Frag
˗ DMG: 150 → 130
˗ Add indicator

Flashbang
˗ Max intensity duration: 3.5s → 2s
˗ Reduce view angle

  • Disable max intensity on teammates

Gas
˗ Increase initial immunity by 0.75s

Total
Buffs: 29
Nerfs: 24

left stag
fervent coral
#

I understand the model is a shotgun and all and you guys nerfed it over 10m away but why am I still getting hit for 50+ more then 10m away

keen abyss
cold bolt
#

fix spawns

dusky apex
low epoch
#

Why is it not addressed that a light can sneak up behind you, no sound, no cloack sound stun u and burst you down in 1,2 sec! Do something is about this, its so damn toxic

signal basin
#

Yo Embark, guess who die to the next frame : New edition !

Are you gonna do something for your tickrate/netcode or maybe your lag compensation ? Because playing Light it's already a fking pain in the ass but dying in a instant when you shouldn't... it's a new whole level !

On the 2nd one and the two last one, I'm back dashing

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fluid raptor
#

give xp54 2 more bullets to increase dpm (or just bring back old xp damage), make glitch nades explode on impact, nerf model damage slighly and decrease damage falloff range to something close-ish.
i'd love to see the ability to stow weapons and have cosmetics similar to heirlooms in apex or knives in cs, etc.
i'd also die for a wallrun/walljump ability on light.
also make it so footstep audio actually works. the state of audio in this game is even worse than in apex at its worst. tune the volumes a bit or something because it genuinly feels so awful when i die to someone a few meters next to me that i had 0 audio from. some guns still have broken audio too, either not making any noise at all or constantly looping the shooting sound.

literally JUST had the audio loop bug on a fking guitar sledge and i quit the game so fking fast cuz that shit was unbarable. it's been so long - please just fix this already!

wide temple
#

To many cheaters encountered in bank it today in the morning.hooooly

delicate basin
#

cosmetics should not have the team color outline. Easy fix

patent mural
#

Possible cloaking device changes

  • Reduce activation cost from 4s to 2s
  • Reduce overall duration to 10s
  • Optionally remove the blue filter, or atleast make it less dark

edit: I agree with the post from @candid epoch , either nerf or remove the stun gun, there is not a single more frustrating thing to die to.

wraith igloo
#

Whatever stupid changes you made to destruction in the last patch is causing the servers to literally choke several times every round and everyone freezes. This is like the third or fourth patch in a row where you’ve totally stuffed something….

keen lily
#

I'm going to lose my shit, the solo queue has never been as bad as it is now. Dropped around 10k points playing solo yesterday, as there were many premade teams in the evening/night, then I find myself in the lower rank where I absolutely destroy everyone but still can't carry the games often due to teammates being pepega, so I still lose points. What happened to individual performance? I am definitely skipping next season.

fallow gust
#

Bring back the old dagger! The new one is too casual, and now players who have been playing for a long time are on the same level as beginners because the dagger can’t be fully utilized anymore. It makes aggressive play impossible by slowing down the character too much. At the very least, could you remove the slowdown effect on the dagger? Please bring back my favorite weapon—I can’t play like this 😭

candid epoch
#
  1. Remove the stun gun - doesn't deserve to exist
  2. Revert the sniper to fully hitscan - balancing around power shift is stupid, its not the main gamemode
trail nymph
#

s5 the wheel comes back but its the mayan calendar

delicate basin
#

wHERE IS THE WAAAAAAAAAAA???? from charge n slam. I never hear opponents WAAA, or am I misremembering

patent mural
mortal notch
verbal bane
#

Rather than continually nerfing Medium to appease the garbage Light players whining about dying while attacking from disadvantageous positions, consider this:

Give Lights the ability to Wall-Run and "double-jump" like in Titanfall 2, to add more to their movement.

bleak nexus
#

Performance updates please :,) (also as an all class player so many people whine about their classes counter and want a nerf. M11? cmon bruh. This game is fun because everything is chaotic, op, and reliable. Weaker weapons need buffs more than we need nerfs. This ain't R6 and don't make it turn into it.)

keen lily
#

if I block someone in one game, it SPECIFICALLY means that I don't want to get the same teammate in the next game, what you not understand stupid game

fierce dagger
#

Too many things have been nerfed dps fell a lot across every gun, it is fully difficult to even complete some challenges because it's not up to par with the skill of new players. Weapons don't kill i need to be able to kill to earn points and apart from being a skill issue on my part it is true the damage output is low. Stop nerfing and consider the opposite how about a buff on season 5 so much that i can enjoy the feeling i had for seasons 1 and 2.

I've been getting aimbot players more often than not and even blocking them makes them spawn the next game, I want them gone not until my next game.

Enough with the nerfs dish out buffs

vapid drum
onyx viper
#

Increase the projectile hitbox for bows slightly, as landing consistent hits, especially at long range,is very challenging. A tiny miss often results in death or no kill, making it feel overly punishing. Additionally, the movement reduction while aiming feels comparable to that of a sniper, despite bows dealing significantly less damage.

candid epoch
swift skiff
#

remove the shit marksman / handgun quest. Nobody likes those weapons

lost talon
#

FIX UR FUCKING GAME. u wonder why the finals is donig bad? lets see, oh described as action packed, if it was why is everything soo weak and the ttk is abysmal. just buff everything and stop nerfing, fix the classes to what are meant to be. this game is realy anoying at the moment due to ur shite choices to nerf everything and the movment speed is ass for a game described as action packed

coral axle
dusky apex
#

cheaters eating good this season despair

slate ore
upper citrus
sand hazel
# surreal meadow "cant abuse third parties" = "2 team cash variant for casuals is a bad idea caus...

i never said anything about 3rd parties, odd thing to assume. thats how opinions work same with yours. I don't want it since i simply dont want it, its really nothing else. I'd rather they fix the games current issues before adding in balancing for a 5v5 on top of it. we already have a bunch of bugs and the balance changes they make are god awful, im looking at you sniper and mesh changes, so i feel like they should do quality of life focuses instead of pumping out more garbage to try to get the fan base to play more when the core issues are still there. the fan and exp system is busted this season. season one i finished the bp within like 3 weeks with the same amount of play time i do now. now the best way to get fans and exp is specifically bank it which is crazy that only one mode can be considered the best for both

terse oxide
candid epoch
#
  1. Remove stun
  2. Revert Sniper to fully hitscan
eager cipher
#

do not take this seriously as an actual suggestion yet but (please dunk on it/ speak on it):

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chrome tartan
earnest sierra
#

The community demand cats racing in a bigger sys horizon

upper citrus
maiden shell
#

Same

smoky gust
eager cipher
#

lmao, the duality of #👂┇game-feedback i guess (what's the annoying part, having to kill someone again? that's not really an issue in a game like this)

for no rez, there's always terminal attack

clever hawk
#

I agree the melee weapons are ass but there’s no sign that they’re buffing the range/recoil of other guns & M11 has excellent hipfire spray which allows for better movement

uneven dagger
#

Delete this dumbass channel full of unhelpful people sleep

round obsidian
#

better fan gains and fans for dailies this shit is annoyingly grindy for no reason

smoky sluice
gusty pine
#

Idk if there’s just a massive cheater problem or if the gun is just so horribly broken, but (and I’ve timed this several times) there should be no fucking way that somebody can do 167 damage in 0.5 seconds with v95

livid spruce
#

Expecting big things for the next few seasons.

EDIT: Whatever the price may be, I don't set the rules. I'm only interested in having no more FOMO and having a chance of grabbing past BPs. If anyone cares so much about exclusivity, may they get a "OG badge" or bonus pages only as exclusive since they're recolors. @sharp estuary

(And its also much better than having to pay 2000 multibucks for every bundle like they did for the alien.)

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vital turret
#

Game is full of cheaters... aimbot,wallhack,no recoil, no spread, emulating console on pc... you name it..

sharp estuary
clever hawk
#

Yea although the M11 is one of the worst culprits for the visual recoil and my suggestions ask for this to be addressed globally

deep summit
#

Pls add a blue shirt like in the video so I can cosplay, the hat and pants are already in game <3

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polar blaze
smoky sluice
uneven dagger
#

Nerf this delete that tantrum

fiery tartan
#

guys this weapon killed me. we should nerf it

sharp acorn
#

M11 and Model both REALLY need a nerf, the weapons are insane in a long ttk game.

surreal meadow
latent charm
mighty cedar
#

get some better anticheat. Trash devs

clever hawk
#

Light
Cloak
˗ Decloak time: 0s → 0.5s
˗ No weapon fire whilst cloaked

  • Reduce activation cost by 40%

93R

  • Reduce recoil
  • Mag: 21 → 24
  • Add sight

M11
˗ DMG: 16 → 14

Stun Gun
˗ Movement penalty ends after 75 DMG dealt
˗ Movement increased to walk speed

Vanish Bomb

  • Radius: 3m → 4m

Breach

  • Priming delay: 2s → 1.25s
  • Recharge: 30s → 25s

Bore

  • Recharge: 45s → 35s

Smoke

  • Cleanse detection effects

Medium
Turret

  • Startup time: 5s → 3s
  • Fully refund on pickup
  • Increase recall recharge by 50%
  • Replace the scanning with a fixed cone of vision for consistent detection
    ˗ Add lock-on timer per class
    L: 0.75s
    M: 0.5s
    H: 0.25s

Demat
˗ Recharge: 10s → 13s
˗ Duration: 30s → 20s

FCAR

  • Smooth initial recoil

1887
˗ DMG: 128 → 116

Defib
˗ Allow resurrecting body to be destroyed
˗ 10s cooldown upon being resurrected
˗ Remove iframes

Glitch Trap
˗ Connection: 0s → 0.5s

Heavy
Mesh

  • Deactivation delay: 4s → 3s
  • Deactivation delay when damaged: 8s → 3.5s

Winch

  • Max range: 12m → 15.9m
    ˗ Winched players proximity: 1m → 5m

Charge n Slam
˗ Max DMG: 130 → 120
˗ Ramp DMG from 70-120 over 1.25s
˗ Subsequent DMG: 50 → 30

M60

  • Improve hipfire accuracy
  • Allow bipod mounting

KS-23

  • Remove dispersion
  • Empty reload: 2.2s → 1.4s

Akimbo .50
˗ Headshot DMG: 88 → 77

RPG
˗ DMG: 100 → 60

  • Cooldown: 45s → 35s
  • Radius: +25%
  • Add knockback to epicentre

Grav Cube

  • Height: 12m → 14m

C4

  • Cooldown: 30s → 20s

Global
Health

  • Decrease health regen delay per class
    L: 7s → 6s
    M: 9s → 7s
    H: 10s → 8s

Weapons

  • Reduce visual recoil

Frag
˗ DMG: 150 → 130
˗ Add indicator

Flashbang
˗ Max intensity duration: 3.5s → 2s
˗ Reduce view angle

  • Disable max intensity on teammates

Gas
˗ Increase initial immunity by 0.75s

Total
Buffs: 29
Nerfs: 24

frigid nexus
#

Make a Dragon skin for flamethrower because dragons breathe fire. duh

fervent vortex
#

model down to 112, frag down to 1, make winch not pierce shields, revert mesh, goat meta

smoky sluice
plush fjord
verbal bane
rocky meteor
sleek flame
rough hinge
#

Add message reactions to the feedback channels to gauge feedback.... not that it matters since you dont read this channel or implement any of the community ideas/feedback.

deep sierra
#

Buff fcar

trail terrace
#

fix your servers embark the ping is horrible in asia, asia is not just china

keen orbit
#

feagfeatg3e2qg2g

azure spire
#

bruh there needs to be better matchmaking in WT, just queued with all emerald players wtf (im literally bronze still) moolahpet and yea they all smelled like they havent showered in weeks

hexed terrace
#

Instead of nerfing everything we need to buff all the stuff that isn't strong to compete good weapons
Like don't nerf model but buff other weapon to beat the model etc....

unborn garnet
deft sedge
#

Remove 100k exp on the battle pass. I have a life, i touch grass and i have job. I cant be spending my whole day grinding

serene perch
tired fable
clever hawk
round obsidian
#

played a match where my team never got a third for the entire game but the other two teams had players leave and almost instantaneously get new ones, honestly just gonna delete the fucking game after this season, its so unnecessarily annoying now with all the grinding we have to constantly do, just to get shafted with the xp/fan amount we receive and all the cheating losers or no life sweats on top of all that is ridiculous

smoky sluice
thorny parcel
#

Just let melee weapons run while stunned I swear

fervent vortex
#

its barely the 3rd best light gun

hexed terrace
#

We need a "2 time the same role per team max" because triple medium or triple light is stupidly strong

slender fractal
#

someone help me fix mouse lag in the finals

somber spruce
#

The Goo Gun for heavy Is very underutilized and I really think this weapon could be more effective if it gotten a rework in a way that could make it more powerful in defense. THIS IS ALSO A ROUGH SKETCH IDEA. So take it with a grain of salt.

Goo Gun Rework

When using shooting the Goo Gun, the goo will have a shade of color to them representing your team or an enemy teams color depending on who shot it.
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With this in mind, the goo that is shot from a Goo Gun will have 10% - 15% more health for more stability in defending.
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When shooting at a player with movement, via Charge & Slam, Evasive Dash, Grapple Hook, etc. It will not stop the specializations ability, but instead slows them down drastically.

Nerfs and Buffs

+ When the goo is shot from the Goo Gun it will have a shade of color to it representing the team who shot it, making it easier to tell who its from and knowing that the goo will have more health.
+ When shooting goo at a player with movement specialization like Evasive Dash, Grapple Hook, and Charge & Slam, it will slow them down drastically.
+ Increase in goo health from 300 to 345 (15% increase) 
+ Increase in burn time from 12s to 16s (35% Increase)
+ Increase in lasting duration of 90s to 115s (27.5% Increase)

- When shooting goo at a player with movement specialization like Evasive Dash, Grapple Hook, and Charge & Slam, it will not stop the animation and it's effects.
- Decrease in length size when connected from 15 to 12 (20% Decrease)
- Magazine size from 20 to 15 (25% Decrease)
- Increase in reload time from 2s to 2.75s (37.5% Increase)
- Decrease in firing rate from 0.3s to 0.6s (100% Decrease)
- Decrease in bullet speed by 20%
waxen grove
#

A crazy fast ttk is killing this game slowly

brittle obsidian
muted gazelle
#

this skill gap being present every time season is nearing end is just really demotivating

shell raven
#

dagger right click feels extremly unintuitive, you should be able to hold it but tapping right click should be like how it was closer to launch.

royal mango
#

Nothing suspicious here at all 🤔

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signal basin
#

Nice. Already dead but take dmg from model anyway

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cosmic ether
#

These headshot from X distance contracts are so stupid, literally everyone is just sitting 3000000miles away not playing the objective.

red echo
rough storm
#

Me giving The finals another shot with something else than model 1887
Gets absolutely rekked by model players in every other team that each have double the damage than their teammates combined respectively. Completely done with this Model ass game man. I don't know why i keep trying every day.
Thx Dev team. Job well done!

@somber spruce ya that part is subjective, there's a lot of ppl that do find it way worse than how it was before this seaons. Cuz now it's just steal and run like a little B in stead of fighting over the box/cashout. Aka Luck > Skills. But hey 3/4 still guud

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somber spruce
royal mango
frail iron
uneven dagger
errant hornet
#

Dearest embark. Please 🙏 fix equipment wheel on mnk. Please 🙏 fix the bug that keeps removing my weapon cosmetics and emotes. And also Please 🙏 rework the "blast caster" achievement. 😳

smoky sluice
faint saddle
#

Buff the god damn running speed while holding dagger a heavy is faster then me

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tribal spoke
#

Please buff the dual blades. I suggest removing the 50/50,60/60,70 combo and replacing it with flat 55/55 damage slashes, it fixes the light and heavy breakpoints without touching medium ttk (Which is fine though struggles with Model). And or improve the swing speed by 5-15% to decrease the ttk. Having to have to cancel or miss the first swing on a light is annoying at best and pretty impractical to get a reasonable ttk against one of the most mobile classes in the game

wind meteor
waxen olive
#

make there an option to not queue with lights on your team PLEASE

still wave
#

Please give us a updated the practice range adding more things too it like vertical and horizontal box's like in apex that move to realistic speeds of the game that you can changed weather they be walking, running on a jump pad or Zipline add corner peaks and allow us to see damage tics and accuracy state board to see how much shots are landing add targets on walls to practice vertical jumping while tracking on the jump pads could also add more building to practice finding crunch points of where buildings clapse and cash out box's to for across map throws also more ways to practice with throwable canisters and single shot targets for snapping along with walls that remake themselves so you can do breach and clears there is a lot I would love to see added to the practice range and these are just some of them I spend hours in the practice range before I jump into a match of apex or Fortnite it's relaxing to see your gameplay improve and helps a lot before jumping in game I do spend a lot of time in the range in the finals doing my own drills but it be nice to see more I can practice doing in there

small flint
#

Just fix the fuxking balance between L M H

sudden notch
#

BRING BACK THE NUKES ALREADY. You guys only got rid of them because of the 1% of whiney fans that bitch about everything. Fuck em.

fathom otter
#

2 WT games in row where my teammates just leave because I'm constantly against 3 man full sweat squads, great sbmm embark 👍, I know having a solo queue only would divide the community and make it take longer to find games but it feels awful when I have to fight my own team and 3 other teams cause no one understands the concept of teamwork. What and unenjoyable experience

halcyon remnant
#

Please add a console only cross play

limpid willow
#

my two ranked random teammates leave with 6 minutes still left, on the first game, and i still lose the same amount of point as if i had a full team of actually trying teammates, gg love this game

gloomy anchor
#

Can we remove seeding entirely from ranked, it doesnt determine skill only risk.

The system shouldnt be me actively hoping to be 8th seed every game

thick sorrel
#

The Finals Shotguns Leaked Patch Notes 5.0.0

Model 1887

  • Sniper Scope added
  • ACOG (4x) added
    Dev Note: We nudge the effective range, so... it still 2 shots Lights at 15m😂
    **Real Fix: 2-Shots Lights and 3-Shots Heavys, but not above 10m! - e.g. 117 Dmg+more Spread **

Defibrillator

  • Increase Charge from 1 to Two and a Half😩
    Dev Note: Defibrillated Medium's can instantly use their own Defibrillator. Obviously it's not Alan enough.

Akimbo Deagles

  • Reworked: Shoots now explosive Rounds
    Dev Note: The midrange accuracy was way less oppressive than intended, so we added AoE to improve it.

Charge & Slam

  • Renamed to Flash & Hulk
    Dev Note: We thought it fits the instant sprint activation and the damage level of Hulk Smash - usually used after RPG for a free kill.

Dual Blades

  • Decreased Blades from 2 to 1
    Dev Note: There's only one Blade. There's only ever gonna be one Blade.
west trellis
#

I've been connecting to some really unplayably laggy servers since the last update. Seems to just be the finals and not my internet. Is this an everyone problem or a me problem?

tired bear
sonic wigeon
#

Remove defib from game

sturdy hawk
#

Love getting to the second round of WT as a gold 4 and the entire lobby getting pub stopped by some bitchless loser named rfake6 and his fucking support team. Literally nobody else cashed out how is that enjoyable in the fucking slightest yall need to figure out the fucking matchmaking. Also love getting to the next game just for the servers to fucking die and everyone damn near frozen in fucking place for over 2 minutes yall are fucking ridiculous. Fucking don't get me started on how if you get into a ranked or WT match 99% of the time any random teammate just disconnects but for some fucking reason the half brains running this shit havnt made it so you can also then leave without being punished. The balancing between LMH is actually soooo fucking garbage heavy shouldn't have multiple no skill weapons (FUCKING SPINNY STICK AND FUCKING FLAME FUCK) that can almost guarantee an instant kill to a light who's been caught of gaurd in a house. Why the fuck as a light with a dagger can I not out run a fat fuck with a fucking sledge hammer. Yall have genuinely fucked yourselves into a position where you can't make a balanced game.

shell raven
#

the "interrupt 10 steals" challenge is uniquely frustrating due to being almost entirely reliant on other people to complete. Challenges like "deal x damage with y weapon" or "hit 30 headshots from z distance" are influenced by other players, sure, but whether or not you make progress on it is entirely dependent on you. You can choose to run that weapon, or play at that distance. But with the "interrupt 10 steals" challenge, it is dependent on 1) your team being coordinated enough to either start or steal a cashout 2) being uncoordinated enough to allow a steal attempt 3) the enemy teams have to be coordinated enough to have a player attempt a steal 4) but also uncoordiated enough to allow the stealer to get hit by a stun gun/winch claw/one hit kill weapon 5) your teammates not killing said stealer before you can intterupt 6) the stealer not letting go just before you hit them because they heard a sound queue or something. In addition to all of this, an interrupt only counts if your actions make them inable to steal, not just if they stop because of your actions. This means that the only ways to get an interrupt are stun gun, winch claw, or killing them before they let go. But most people aren't gonna just sit there and hold e to steal while under fire, they are going to stop stealing and join the fight to secure the area. Which means that the most effective way to steal is by being a rat, sitting in a corner bating your team, so you can have an attempt to hit the stealer with a stun gun. And I think that makes this challenge not fun, not fair, and lowers the quality of matches where people are attempting this, which makes the game worse for everybody

brittle obsidian
night glen
#

God I hate the fucking Shield

still wave
upper citrus
wild verge
fathom otter
royal mango
clever hawk
#

Light
Cloak
˗ Decloak time: 0s → 0.5s
˗ No weapon fire whilst cloaked

  • Reduce activation cost by 40%

93R

  • Reduce recoil
  • Mag: 21 → 24
  • Add sight

M11
˗ DMG: 16 → 14

Stun Gun
˗ Movement penalty ends after 75 DMG dealt
˗ Movement increased to walk speed

Vanish Bomb

  • Radius: 3m → 4m

Breach

  • Priming delay: 2s → 1.25s
  • Recharge: 30s → 25s

Bore

  • Recharge: 45s → 35s

Smoke

  • Cleanse detection effects

Medium
Turret

  • Startup time: 5s → 3s
  • Fully refund on pickup
  • Increase recall recharge by 50%
  • Replace the scanning with a fixed cone of vision for consistent detection
    ˗ Add lock-on timer per class
    L: 0.75s
    M: 0.5s
    H: 0.25s

Demat
˗ Recharge: 10s → 13s
˗ Duration: 30s → 20s

FCAR

  • Smooth initial recoil

1887
˗ DMG: 128 → 116

Defib
˗ Allow resurrecting body to be destroyed
˗ 10s cooldown upon being resurrected
˗ Remove iframes

Glitch Trap
˗ Connection: 0s → 0.5s

Heavy
Mesh

  • Deactivation delay: 4s → 3s
  • Deactivation delay when damaged: 8s → 3.5s

Winch

  • Max range: 12m → 15.9m
    ˗ Winched players proximity: 1m → 5m

Charge n Slam
˗ Max DMG: 130 → 120
˗ Ramp DMG from 70-120 over 1.25s
˗ Subsequent DMG: 50 → 30

M60

  • Improve hipfire accuracy
  • Allow bipod mounting

KS-23

  • Remove dispersion
  • Empty reload: 2.2s → 1.4s

Akimbo .50
˗ Headshot DMG: 88 → 77

RPG
˗ DMG: 100 → 60

  • Cooldown: 45s → 35s
  • Radius: +25%
  • Add knockback to epicentre

Grav Cube

  • Height: 12m → 14m

C4

  • Cooldown: 30s → 20s

Global
Health

  • Decrease health regen delay per class
    L: 7s → 6s
    M: 9s → 7s
    H: 10s → 8s

Weapons

  • Reduce visual recoil

Frag
˗ DMG: 150 → 130
˗ Add indicator

Flashbang
˗ Max intensity duration: 3.5s → 2s
˗ Reduce view angle

  • Disable max intensity on teammates

Gas
˗ Increase initial immunity by 0.75s

Total
Buffs: 29
Nerfs: 24

somber spruce
#

half of the messages here are actually good feedback and are trying to help out with the game while the other half is just crying over their skill at the game is wild to me

keen shoal
mild veldt
#

Give us the EXP boost ASAP!

The last two pages are an absolute grind, to the point of being unnecessary.

100,000 EXP is not a good amount at all! Dailies just give too little; if it weren't for the circuit contracts, it would be extremely hard to finish.

dusty igloo
willow yoke
#

Worst devs in history of the most unbalanced comp game. You want to make finals esport ready dont make me laugh rob%matt you cant balance that game for 4 seasons now
cant believe you leave that model unattended for 4+ months and then call it fine then post a vlog post how model is fine in low elo but stale in high elo.
yeah Matt high elo is fucking invested with models and its not even funny anymore. Just because some low elo low aim noobs cant aim with model doesnt mean its fine.

hard river
#

We are playing premade thermal attack one of us game has crashed and he got the ban immediately after a few seconnds for 10 mins. Well done developers, amazing!

vale jay
#

I really interested in what will be on Christmas

surreal meadow
sleek flame
brittle obsidian
wide void
still wave
#

@royal mango I like my variety of competitive games Don't hate on me for jumping to different games when I choose too, bud I just asked for a updated firing range I'm sure there is others that feel the same way about it too

drowsy pilot
wise cliff
#

Guys who have the problem with ping last days. Yesterday at night and today last 2 hours goes something wrong with the game. Latency is about 1-2 seconds. For example, I am throwing a grenade and see it goes only after a second and etc. Playing such way is horrible. Have anyone other the same things?

white surge
#

The amount of xp required for the last levels of the battle pass is absolutely ridiculous. there is no way for a casual player to finish it

night bone
#

Am i the only one that have the "hit with arena carriables" quest bugged? I was able to reach 16 hit, but suddenly the game doesn't count the hits anymore 🧐, i even kill people with Red barrel so i'm sure about what i'm saying

minor star
#

can we stop with the gamemode specific weekly missions.. no I don't wanna torture myself in 3v5 powershift vs 5 snipers

thin grail
#

would be nice if we could see badge progressions

hollow spear
#

would be nice if we got bonus xp again like tripple xp 1h_plead_cute

either that or let us buy the bonus rewards 1r_skull_smile

pls, love u guys 1r_skull_smile

smoky sluice
quick coyote
finite galleon
wind meteor
faint saddle
cosmic narwhal
#

day 19 of asking for a ready up button

zealous edge
#

Needs a hardpoint mode

signal basin
#

Read my name.

  • Nerf model damage. STILL OP AFTER YOUR "NERF"
  • Add an indicator for the frag grenade !
  • Nerf a bit damage Deagle at mid/long range
  • Reverse XP nerf. Same dmg than a M11 but slower RPM and less bullets. Just useless now. STILL USELESS AFTER YOUR "BUFF"
  • Rework mesh shield
  • Nerf Charge'N'Slam. Too much damage.
  • Give back the rpm on the V9S but let the damage.
  • Buff grapple. Reduce cooldown by 1 sec or add charge.
  • If Hook do damage, Stun gun should do. Put damage for both of them or no damage for both of them.
  • Nerf the right clic + Dash on Light. You couldn't dash with your sword or dagger charge. Too strong.
  • Nerf defib. To strong. It's litteraly the M meta.
  • Mates being revive with defib shouldn't tank bullets. Or should take damage !
  • Patch the level up bug on weapons at the end of matches. It's been here since many months now !
  • Kill, Assist, Revive and Objectives points should add more points in ranked even with you lose T1.
  • Fix the recoil bug/pattern
  • Fix the spawn after a wipe, SHOULD NOT RESPAWN on CashOut and camping for your vault

More on the game :

  • BAN CHEATERS AND TOXIC PLAYER. I'm done of getting insult just because I play Light. Report them do nothing. PERMA BAN ! NOT 7 DAYS
  • Sound balance is terrible.
  • Do something for the poor matchmaking in ranked.
  • Ban cheaters. We need more feedback on our report IG and on Discord.
  • Increase the netcode / tickrate / servers ! Or maybe it's lag compensation ?! I'm done getting kill at 3 meters far from a hammer or a sword
  • Let us choose our sight weapons at the begining of a game
  • Let us go in pratice with friends
  • Delete low gravity event. Just the worst event in this game.
  • Some event appear in front of the scoreboard. Fix it please
  • Random skin and charm list for weapons / gadgets
  • Add a TDM mode for warming up.
  • We shouldn't lost point in ranked when a team mate leave the squad and didn't play during the round
  • Let us invite friends or join them in group even if we are not the leader
  • Add the possibility to PM friends in the lobby
  • Add the possibility to look at the profil/card of friends
  • Let us leave a game without penality in ranked if we are only 2 or 1 in the squad !
  • Some spawn are still at the opposite of the objective.

I will always post this now and add some changes time to time.

oak wave
#

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lost talon
#

nothing ever happens

wraith salmon
#

just update fsr2 to fsr3.1.2 embark then players will come back

halcyon lagoon
# signal basin **Read my name.** - **Nerf model damage. STILL OP AFTER YOUR "NERF"** - Add an ...

I think the lack of a grenade indicator is what makes this game a little unique. Logistically speaking. if someone throws a grenade in a dark room. Would you know exactly where it was and have the confidence to throw it back with the idea in your mind that it could blow up any second. That’s just my theory on why maybe they also didn’t add it. Because I’m a real life scenario I feel not every man would know where this grenade is.

smoky sluice
brittle obsidian
meager adder
#

nah grenade markers make grenades useless the fact that you're whining is a good thing.

clever hawk
slate otter
#

Turret Kill Counter and Damage Counter (Stats on the usage Basically)

thorn kelp
#

Some buffs I would like to see for Specializations are

  • Guardian Turret (Faster activation time after deployment)

  • Evasive Dash (Allow for players to hold the button to use up extra chargers to dash further)

  • Goo Gun (Might take some time to code, but I'd prefer if the Goo Gun negated a Charge from a "Charge 'N' Slam". I'd also prefer the projectile speed to be faster)

  • Winch Claw (Also might take some time to code. Allow for the Claw to pull through structures)

  • Mesh Shield (Slight decrease cooldown after putting shield down)

keen lily
terse oxide
#

Whyyyy is World Tour such an awful way to gain fans? Why doesn't each round count towards fan generation?

glass cradle
#

NERF FAMAS!

silent fog
quick coyote
#

dial back the grind. Its ridiculous.

meager adder
# clever hawk Famously nobody has ever dealt damage with a grenade before in 99% of other game...

Famously other games nades blow up in 1 second rather than three like in this game, since we're being petty and facetious. You can also see and hear the grenades popping.
@brittle obsidian (funny name since medium is the OP pick right now due to its support, think that says a lot about your attitude) what i say is not just remotely true, but absolutely true. You can hear the nade, you can see the nade if you're paying attention, plus your teammates scream "GRENADE INCOMING". Twice is not an issue. It's barely zone denial as it explodes in 3 seconds and is gone. Arguably the gas grenade and pyro are more zone denial than frag. you're probably just not paying attention closely enough. I have been killed by a frag twice lately and only on power shift because it's a small platform that I don't mind dying on. Plus they have lit fuses that are burning that sparkle on the ground. Very apparent. Plus if you're going up to a cash box, with SKILL LEVEL you're already aware that they're going to all nade it twice. 4 booms and it's done. If you don't want to die to a frag, don't chase people up entire staircases or camp corners.

I think what you're doing is: "Thing killed me! I'm literally perfect with no room for improvement it's the games fault!" "Class killed me nerf it!" "Gun killed me, I'm literally invincible so there's no way I played wrong, nerf it!" "WHY am I dying to things with obvious tells?! I should have a little quest marker with a dotted line, treasure map and arrow and neon signs pointing out dangers to me so I NEVER DIE because I'm just so good that I should never be dying!" "NERF NERF NERF! Don't make things stronger! Don't waste your time making things work or other underwhelming aspects feel better! If you do, then I'll have to have a faster reaction time so that I can purposefully throw half my clip AROUND my target and reload twice while they're beaming me so I can win! I need everything to be trash except for what I wanna play with every game!"

smoky sluice
brittle obsidian
clever hawk
lofty shoal
#

Has anyone ever wanted a can of ospuze?

thorn kelp
#

Who?

latent niche
meager knoll
wild verge
#

lets do everyone a favor and make light a "light" class. I personally love getting 1 shotted by every* light weapon as a full health heavy

cerulean flower
#

xp per round should really be increased by some capacity - maybe even depending on what level you are at the moment (like a 1-100% bonus on round xp)

This would be very helpful as your progress will progressively get slower the more you unlock - Up to a point where you're literally unable to progress further if you already did everything but couldnt play for a certain duration in the past of the battlepass for example

lilac coral
wide void
# meager adder Famously other games nades blow up in 1 second rather than three like in this ga...

You're arguing that the grenades are already "apparent" and you can see/hear them, but then you argue that adding indicators would make them useless. You are contradicting yourself.

And your giant, childish strawman argumentum ad hominem about some people only wanting nerfs doesn't help anyone. Indicators are primarily about accessibility, not nerfing.

V @nocturne shell You can't always "pay attention" with the terrible audio mixing and clusterfuck building effects. I'm neutral about having indicators. I just think people who make the argument that the frags are already perceptible are missing the point. Indicators are about making them consistently perceptible and don't affect their usefulness that much.

nocturne shell
#

Na^ keep them more skill based and more about paying attention

thorn kelp
lime summit
#

Did miss something, why in the contract "Earn 1,000,000 cash in total from ANY GAME MODEs" not registering on Power Shift?

smoky sluice
rough depot
#

hey low gravity is an ass event, can u please add more events so I dont have to play it as much embark

spring marlin
#

As a light/meduim main nerf some the m11 ,heavy’s feel like potatoes when I shred them in one hip fire magazine do something with the damage or hip fire spread

surreal meadow
# wide void You're arguing that the grenades are already "apparent" and you can see/hear the...

no no no, we need to make the game have a terrible of a learning curve as possible, so it should make less sound effect even though this game is one of the most sound chaotic games
also lets make them invisible while were at it, even though the game is also one of the most visual chaotic
lets try to make the learning curve impossible to join, that will get new players to join the game and stop the players from leaving

def DONT make the new player experience better
dont raise the skill floor, which will 100% have 0 effect at the skill ceiling - because i like my own loadout and never change

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zealous mural
#

so if i'll do ALL of the dailys for the rest of the season i'll get only 1.3 bonus lvl. Are you guys actually fucked in the head? what the actual fuck is this grind. This is fucking insane, this is even worse than apex season 7. i played every fucking day for almost 2 month at this point, and i'm still only at SECOND bonus lvl. Fuck you with this grind, if you will make the same shit again next season me and my boys are out. you are DUMBFUCKS if you think this will make retention better in the long run. ppl will be tired of this shit next season already

upper citrus
coral crest
#

the recently played with section needs a revamp, it is not user friendly

rough hinge
#

Fire the idiot whos in charge of balancing.

Best FPS of recent years ruined by the most out of touch delusional Studio lead in the industry.

brittle obsidian
strong vessel
#

The interrupt enemies while they are decrypting/stealing your cashout is really unfun. Its not doable in all gamemodes, and you're forced to play really selfish.

lost talon
#

increase the timer on the box unlock so the light just doesnt takes it and runs with it and instead there's a guranteed fight on the unlock like you always wanted

faint saddle
muted plaza
#

add option to change sights in practice range

celest egret
lament talon
#

Started ranked today and crashed when loading in reconnected and it crashed again

halcyon lagoon
# silent fog This game is so far from realism I don't understand why you would even bring up ...

All I’m stating is that’s why they possibly didn’t add it. And I said that’s what gives it a little charm to the game? Also sure we can go to the argument of that we should add it or we shouldn’t but it doesn’t matter. If they do add it I would speculate that kills for grenade would drop dramatically unless they maybe allowed the player to cook up the grenade a little. Because if they just added straight up an indicator and that’s it. Then I wouldn’t doubt kills for grenade would be impossible, and just having a grenade in your load out is throwing a slot away. Every game that I’ve played that has an indicator I and my friends rarely got killed and kills with grenade. TLDR grenade indicators are dumb idea for this game in my opinion. Ps hope this didn’t come off as rude.

quick coyote
#

I feel like some of the weekly missions are getting too crazy. EG: be a certain distance from a gadget that damages an opponent. They would make great additional non-time-limited challenges that could be completed at your own leisure, but are rather annoying for casual players who just want to unlock rewards and level up

dusky apex
#

the cheats are improving but the anti-cheat isn't something isn't adding up

silent fog
# halcyon lagoon All I’m stating is that’s why they possibly didn’t add it. And I said that’s wha...

That's fair but grenades in their current state are too strong.
Maybe a stronger audio indicator like in CS can help but not ruin the grenade.
Or maybe something else can be done about them.
In ranked there's 3 mediums with 6 nades running around. Nades only have 20 second cooldown too so it just rains nades constantly and do 149 damage.
Even if MMM isn't strong anymore in the future M and L will still carry nades, so usually you'll still have 4 nades.
And for your ps you're all good haha

noble parrot
#

they need to make it like if the match at 1min left and ur team is respawn and one min left on the match then the spawn should be max 150m away and IF YOU 30% away points from the top 2 team then your spawn place is cloeser by lets say 50% so its compattive game play if the cash is very close between top 3 and 2 then if top 3 spawn last min then it have to be spawn close to them on how much cash they have so ppl know how the spawn work on last min
not if u close to them like 1k off and then u spawn 200m away
i dont think i eplain well but what i mean on the last min the spawn is diffrect the closest cash you have to top 2 the closer you spwen to them on the last MIN on the match
like this its more fair for ppl who have almost same cash and fair fight and fair chance and rewarding
@pearl kiln

narrow osprey
#

FIX THE MATCHMAKING

cerulean flower
#

FOR GODS SAKE remove this stupid XP penalty THE SECOND the round is over.. why tf do you have to wait for tons of different animations to leave the round when its over man wtf.

Loosing xp on leaving instantly after the round is over because you dont want to wait for those useless animations and rather play (and as you do the same in other games as they all allow it) is wild to me honestly.
Super annoying.

outer estuary
#

Has anyone been experiencing this weird thing where your character randomly starts walking back? It's not my keyboard bc it would start typing "ssssss", but it doesn't. Its so anoying how you just stop moving forward in the middle of a fight.

jagged cedar
rustic tusk
#

Fix the matchmaking in your fucking game, embark

smoky sluice
keen lily
#

model meta is so braindead

lilac plank
#

new map

polar grotto
#

Buffs that should be incurred

Sword, primary swing 1 more damage (can kill lights in 2 swings)
Riot shield, shield should be better at blocking
Dual blades, more dmg, faster attacks, better deflect
Spear, more range, secondary attack should be cancellable when not holding down secondary (shouldn't have to do the glitch) should damage 360
Flamethrower, should have a VERY slight increase in spread (larger area of effect)
M32, if it hits a player before it bounces it explodes otherwise explodes after 1 bounce
R .357, more accurate hip-firing
Dome shield, slightly more hp and having a effect that removes invis from enemys who enter
Explosive mine, either more damage or change the count back to 2
Frag grenade, more arena damage
Zipline, can be placed further away making longer ziplines or using secondary click can choose where it begins and ends

surreal zodiac
#

I hope you guys add more customization options to the private match section in the next season 😫

real jasper
#

Light is impossible to play.

surreal meadow
# polar grotto Buffs that should be incurred Sword, primary swing 1 more damage (can kill ligh...

Glitch Nade: should crash your device
Dual Blades: Now bans you for choosing said item
Defibrillator: Defibrillated player's device now get shocked when revived
Hammer: Primary fire hitting lights/mediums now flings them. Alt fire hitting light/medium class now breaches the floor & spikes them under with increased momentum
Spear: Now bans you for choosing said item
Pyro Mine, Pyro Nade, Orange Barrels, Flamethrower: Being on fire now causes your device to overheat. Bonus effect on laptop players

most of these are good tho fr

topaz summit
misty geyser
tired bear
pliant glade
#

It'd be amazing if the game could get optimized. it's just ridiculous at this point the performance. Genuinely laughed when i heard it's coming to ps4, how did you manage that Embark, i'm actually impressed if it runs at a constant 30

burnt rune
#

may we perhaps get more xp? 2-3,000 xp per match grinding for the bonus tiers is stripping at my sanity

smoky sluice
raw blaze
spice zenith
#

Add Steam points stickers/emojis!

spring marlin
sonic arrow
#

Add a last match stats button on home screen to show the leaderboard of last match

tired bear
floral vault
#

I would love to have the rank be less punishing, it's ridiculous to play for half an hour, get second (Or even first) just to lose more than you gained in ten minutes of an "easy tournament" with peopl dogging on you the whole game

real jasper
civic pier
#

so like, the interupt challenge is weirdly difficult, right? Im using stunn and still not always getting the interupt

brave arch
half pawn
#

I wish they would make the shotgun spread random instead of a pattern.

sleek flame
#

Nerf the FUCKIN shotguns, or buff automatics this game is getting stale and repetitive across all game modes. getting aped by SH1900 and models is very annoying damn near unplayable unless you if you join in playing with these cringy ass weapons

misty geyser
smoky sluice
raw blaze
# sleek flame Nerf the FUCKIN shotguns, or buff automatics this game is getting stale and repe...

I have just gotten shit on by a KS-23 and SH1900, and then 2 minutes later shit on the people with the KS-23 and SH1900 with the AKM (I think the balance with shotguns are actually pretty nice rn)

@small relic i'm not delusional lmao, KS-23 shoots slugs that are projectiles not hitscan, AND it takes a minute to pump the next shot. I can SHIT ALL OVER people using KS with an AKM. Either YOU have a skill issue or the KS-23 is just fine :3

small relic
surreal meadow
surreal torrent
shut swan
#

FEEDBACK WITH RANKED CASHOUT SPAWNS:

great game. But when you have a cashout and a third party comes in and you get wiped. If you spawn and still have the cashout due to the 2 teams fighting you shouldn’t spawn at the other cashout. You should be able you defend your cashout.

Just my opinion, I see how’d it’d continue 3rd party but the team that initiated the third party, should be punished not the depositing team.

Hope this is seen.

quick dew
#

give us KBM on console embark and my life is yours please

sleek flame
mild veldt
#

GIVE
US
THE
DOUBLE
EXP
WEEK
ASAP
!!!!

raw blaze
wide void
# sleek flame I would love to play in your lobbies and dont tell me you rank in world tour bec...

@raw blaze KS-23 needs a small buff. SH1900 is strong but extremely committal and risky -- hasn't proven to be a huge issue yet. Model is definitely OP and needs 8 or 16 less damage if it's going to retain such a tight spread and allow melees to continue being interwoven between shots without interrupting the RoF at all.

Matter is perfectly fine.

SA12 is meta at top tier play but is also low-range and very committal. It contends with and is arguably often outclassed by Deagles.

@pseudo relic CL-40 is dogshit right now, mate. Contender for worst weapon in the game

@3.14face0#0000 Defib is a problem though. It's literally a mustpick on Medium. You can't NOT run it :/

pseudo relic
#

Nerf medium defib,sentry gun Grenada Launcher cuz when 3 Medium run it annoying to fight against.

floral shoal
#

You know what really makes me not want to play a game? When a game doesn't respect my time and effort.

This entire season has felt like one endless grind-a-thon and I didn't even do a grind for Emerald or Diamond. The slow fan acclimation early on made the entire progress bar feel slow and pointless. The 100,000 XP levels on the extra Battlepass feel so unnecessary for a game I'm already putting plenty of time into. Not to mention certain weeklies existing that only count when I do it and not as a team just to pace out how long I'm doing stuff for.

I hated the grind this season. Please don't make it this grindy again.

radiant remnant
#

Please do something about visual recoil, I'd like to know where I am shooting at least when using a sight

rough storm
half pawn
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I agree, stop nerfing heavys, ya'll need to start nerfing some aspects of Lights like weapon damage with especially the M11.

The lights just can't really be played well in ranked matches, they can't defend the cashouts well, they get third partied or third party people waaaaaaay to often, I think the lights just need to get the stats changed, there also isn't really more than one way to play lights other than assasin or sniper, andthat really bugs me.

Edit: I think a role as a trapper would be cool, like the light could lay down beartraps or something

tame crag
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It would be awesome if in future battle passes, we could get single colored cosmetics of varying colors. Right now there’s a larrrggee majority of black and white with maybe a color accent, at least ones you can get from the battlepass.

You could also do bundles with like 7 pants of the same design but different colors (like ROYGBIV colors), itd make it much easier to make fun contestant outfits with the added options.

deep summit
small relic
glass sequoia
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Please let me choose custom team colorus so orange team doesn't blend in with the background of some environments :c

somber spruce
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The Goo Gun for heavy Is very underutilized and I really think this weapon could be more effective if it gotten a rework in a way that could make it more powerful in defense. THIS IS ALSO A ROUGH SKETCH IDEA. So take it with a grain of salt.

Goo Gun Rework

When using shooting the Goo Gun, the goo will have a shade of color to them representing your team or an enemy teams color depending on who shot it.
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With this in mind, the goo that is shot from a Goo Gun will have 10% - 15% more health for more stability in defending.
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When shooting at a player with movement, via Charge & Slam, Evasive Dash, Grapple Hook, etc. It will not stop the specializations ability, but instead slows them down drastically.

Nerfs and Buffs

+ When the goo is shot from the Goo Gun it will have a shade of color to it representing the team who shot it, making it easier to tell who its from and knowing that the goo will have more health.
+ When shooting goo at a player with movement specialization like Evasive Dash, Grapple Hook, and Charge & Slam, it will slow them down drastically.
+ Increase in goo health from 300 to 345 (15% increase) 
+ Increase in burn time from 12s to 16s (35% Increase)
+ Increase in lasting duration of 90s to 115s (27.5% Increase)

- When shooting goo at a player with movement specialization like Evasive Dash, Grapple Hook, and Charge & Slam, it will not stop the animation and it's effects.
- Decrease in length size when connected from 15 to 12 (20% Decrease)
- Magazine size from 20 to 15 (25% Decrease)
- Increase in reload time from 2s to 2.75s (37.5% Increase)
- Decrease in firing rate from 0.3s to 0.6s (100% Decrease)
- Decrease in bullet speed by 20%
wide void
# half pawn I agree, stop nerfing heavys, ya'll need to start nerfing some aspects of *Light...

You complained about Light doing too much DPS (they don't, relative to other classes) and then correctly said they're underperforming in ranked play. Breh?

Light is not going to be reworked into a trapper. M and H have all the traps already, and they're the ones meant to be area denial. Light is hit and run. They just often don't hit hard enough, don't live long enough to run, and/or don't run well enough compared to Medium, who already has sufficient TTK and has Defib, team-wide mobility, and Dematerializer/Healing Beam.

pulsar bobcat
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please make it so trophies/achievements carry over between platforms... i really like the game and would like to get the achievements on both my Steam and PSN accounts

rough storm
gaunt granite
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Can we get a casual mode that mimics WT/Tournament? Quick Cash is ok but not sure why there isn't a regular mode that isn't a commitment of 20-40 minutes

frank jungle
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Bad idea: a menu that lets you choose your music season, so people can listen to s2's fire ost

coral axle
unborn garnet
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played a game of power shift. I got the old ass bug again where i can't shoot or run. has yet to be fixed.
Now, the game has finished and im stuck on this page for the past 10+mins
game is broken, I'm telling y'all your servers are done. Get new ones

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raw blaze
vapid drum
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Revolver rework please embark

red arch
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world tour week is quite low effort lol

wide void
# gaunt granite Can we get a casual mode that mimics WT/Tournament? Quick Cash is ok but not sur...

World Tour is supposed to be the casual version of Ranked. It sucks, doesn't it? Especially since the grind for multibucks or Emerald skins is so tedious?

Here's what they need to do. Make those World Tour-only rewards apply to all modes (AKA let us earn Win Points in any mode), and then add a new, casual 5v5 mode that isn't as gimmicky as Power Shift or Terminal Attack.

I present to you... 5v5 cashout
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drowsy quest
surreal meadow
# shut swan FEEDBACK WITH RANKED CASHOUT SPAWNS: great game. But when you have a cashout an...

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5v5 FOR CASUALS - CASUAL PLAYER RETENTION IS LACKING

tulip steppe
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Keep model dmg just nerf the range (fr this time). It should be strong at close range but weak at mid and long range.

tall cradle
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Deark Embark, this year I've been a good boy. I have reported people for cheating and disguising the n-word in their username. I have completed contracts and sponsorships, I have participated in community events. This Christmas I only ask for one thing: customizable crosshairs for sights and scopes. It's hard to believe not having at least a few colour blind options is a small oversight. I know this is probably not high up on the todo list, but it can't be so hard as to be impossible to implement.

raw blaze
fading flame
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This game has a massive connection problem. Every game or 2 I get massive lag spikes that last for half the game.

eternal kayak
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Can we revert demat to what it was before? Currently, it almost never closes the whole piece you demat from the other side. One side will be on piece the other two

placid sorrel
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can we do something about the first two cashouts meaning nothing, so tired of losing all because I didn't get the last cashout but played perfect until that point. The last one is the only one that matters

surreal meadow
cold bolt
tired bear
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as a medium main the 1887 is ridiculous

dapper rune
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exp boost pls, help us out since the season is both shorter and grindier than past ones 🙏

jagged vector
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WT should world tour shouldn’t be another form of ranked. It should be for a casual players the way it is right now isn’t casual. It’s another form of ranked world tour shouldn’t be ranked the awards you get should just be in ranked because what happens is the people play ranked they get stuck at a certain place because not enough people are playing this game and they go to world tour and it just does not make the casual player enjoy it.

This game will be dead by the end of next year. I enjoy it and it’s lots of fun but the way the game is right now is just straight garbage

Also another thing is pc and console players should not be in the same game because pc players have such an unfair advantage. They have the ability to have unreal aim and only that it’s so much easier to cheat on PC. I’m so fucking frustrated. Going against a full team of people on PC when I’m on console.

quaint forge
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Instead of needing buffing shit in the game CAN YOU FUCKING WORK ON YOUR MATCHMAKING

fresh ibex
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Real. It doesn't have to be amazing, but so long as people at a decent level don't get stuck with Johnny Default playing his first ever match as a teammate

hasty coral
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is it just me or does the sponsership thingy take way too long to finish

quick coyote
tulip steppe
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@hasty coral They buffed fans tho. It was way worse at the start of season

idle lantern
quick coyote
magic cosmos
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this seasons lit. whats new in next season?

unborn garnet
blissful bridge
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Instead of nerfing the weapons that feel good and are reliable we should buff the more sub-par equipments

elder folio
lament surge
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game perforance gets worse every single fucking update

rustic tusk
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I've said it once, I'll say it again, fix the shit match making. I am definitely no emerald, stop fucking putting me with them

errant hornet
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Dearest embark. Please 🙏 fix equipment wheel on mnk. Please 🙏 fix the bug that keeps removing my weapon cosmetics and emotes. And also Please 🙏 rework the "blast caster" achievement. 😳

west trellis
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3/4 servers I queue into are unplayably laggy since the last update. Idk what to do I need my finals fix. This is the first actually unplayable issue I've encountered

jagged cedar
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revert dagger charge time, revert dagger movement speed penalties, give an option for tap to stab

jagged vector
blissful bridge
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Embark, please stop nerfing the good equipment and start building up the weaker equipment.

granite kettle
#

put vechiles in the game like halo did, put skateboards and stuff

vale acorn
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put fortune stadium back in rotation

mystic tartan
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moving platforms on seoul is the worst

sudden notch
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These guys only got rid of Nukes because sweaty light players were getting shit on. Now they lost so much of their player base because of it. Stop ruining your game. Stop trying to be COD and be different like you were last year before you let the cringiest players dictate how we should all play.

elfin dock
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Add a moving coach through the map(ik platforms exist but u can fall though them)

quick coyote
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world tour is fucking sucks

lament surge
neon burrow
jagged totem
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anyone elses game saying server not responding?

fervent coral
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Light hitbox need to be looked at

blissful bridge
burnt rune
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if you guys ever decide to use the fan system again (please dont let us grind for multiple sponsor gear plz) can you let bonus fans (fans acquired after you have completed the sponsorship) be converted into normal xp? or have a sponsor title determine the bonus xp you get from matches?

quick coyote
plush fjord
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Cloaking device needs a de-cloak time. Like 1 or 1.5 seconds animation after it de-cloaks itself, so that a person can actually have some time to react, in the middle of a battle. Even 0.5 sec would do fine.

And its dumb that they get to use their gun, as in, aim and all, while theyre cloaked. There the person most probably cant see the cloaked light when its having an intense battle (protecting/stealing cashouts) and the cloaked light is having all the time to aim at the head (figure of speech).

It should be like Reyna's ult Dismiss in valorant, u know, where she goes invis.

The whole point of cloak should be to get away or sneak past ppl.

rough storm
cold bolt
quick coyote
mortal notch
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not being able to leave if someone on your team leaves in WT is so braindead

torpid quarry
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It would be cool if there was a ~0.75 second delay to come back after being defibbed

plush fjord
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Guys wait I think I've finally cooked with this one

After being defibbed, your entire magazine is empty and you have to reload ur gun, plus all specializations and gadgets (including defib) are on cooldown

Also wtf hasnt embark thought of this

versed hazel
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game is still pretty fun just needs for kyoto to be deleted

lofty sequoia
jagged cedar
static wolf
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final round wipe the team. 40 seconds left on cashout. moving platform cashout. why does an enemy team spawn 30 meters from our cashout? is this penalizing players for not moving fast enough? rewarding the players and teams that die instantly get a spawn on cashout and get a free box. fix your game @pearl kiln

plain ferry
rough storm
drifting musk
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Heal beam bugged around gas

mortal notch
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i love making no progress solo que in general and then randoms leaving and then having to play for 5+ mins wasting my time

cold bolt
minor venture
versed hazel
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make the orf characters pets, add egg throwing knives skin, make kyoto actually good or delete it

wraith orchid
# quick coyote

oooh thx that someone mentioning it the team wipe meta was wayyy more fun and the steal and plug meta is annoying af

static wolf
minor venture
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You sound like someone that wants your kills handed to you on a silver platter because you don't have the mental capacity to duck in and out of cover to hit shots on the biggest target in the game. Simply lock tf in.

drifting thistle
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Damn who make this image so true haha

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vapid drum
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Embark PLEASE REWORK REVOLVER 🙏🙏🙏

primal mantle
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If a cheater that you reported on your match gets banned, return a partal amount of the RS you lost from that match.

clever hawk
#

Light
Cloak
˗ Decloak time: 0s → 0.5s
˗ No weapon fire whilst cloaked

  • Reduce activation cost by 40%

93R

  • Reduce recoil
  • Mag: 21 → 24
  • Add sight

M11
˗ DMG: 16 → 14

Stun Gun
˗ Movement penalty ends after 75 DMG dealt
˗ Movement increased to walk speed

Vanish Bomb

  • Radius: 3m → 4m

Breach

  • Priming delay: 2s → 1.25s
  • Recharge: 30s → 25s

Bore

  • Recharge: 45s → 35s

Smoke

  • Cleanse detection effects

Medium
Turret

  • Startup time: 5s → 3s
  • Fully refund on pickup
  • Increase recall recharge by 50%
  • Replace the scanning with a fixed cone of vision for consistent detection
    ˗ Add lock-on timer per class
    L: 0.75s
    M: 0.5s
    H: 0.25s

Demat
˗ Recharge: 10s → 13s
˗ Duration: 30s → 20s

FCAR

  • Smooth initial recoil

1887
˗ DMG: 128 → 116

Defib
˗ Allow resurrecting body to be destroyed
˗ 10s cooldown upon being resurrected
˗ Remove iframes

Glitch Trap
˗ Connection: 0s → 0.5s

Heavy
Mesh

  • Deactivation delay: 4s → 3s
  • Deactivation delay when damaged: 8s → 3.5s

Winch

  • Max range: 12m → 15.9m
    ˗ Winched players proximity: 1m → 5m

Charge n Slam
˗ Max DMG: 130 → 120
˗ Ramp DMG from 70-120 over 1.25s
˗ Subsequent DMG: 50 → 30

M60

  • Improve hipfire accuracy
  • Allow bipod mounting

KS-23

  • Remove dispersion
  • Empty reload: 2.2s → 1.4s

Akimbo .50
˗ Headshot DMG: 88 → 77

RPG
˗ DMG: 100 → 60

  • Cooldown: 45s → 35s
  • Radius: +25%
  • Add knockback to epicentre

Grav Cube

  • Height: 12m → 14m

C4

  • Cooldown: 30s → 20s

Global
Health

  • Decrease health regen delay per class
    L: 7s → 6s
    M: 9s → 7s
    H: 10s → 8s

Weapons

  • Reduce visual recoil

Frag
˗ DMG: 150 → 130
˗ Add indicator

Flashbang
˗ Max intensity duration: 3.5s → 2s
˗ Reduce view angle

  • Disable max intensity on teammates

Gas
˗ Increase initial immunity by 0.75s

Total
Buffs: 29
Nerfs: 24

dense ocean
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day 69 asking embark
let console players able/disable HUD

hehe nice

thorny lynx
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Why has Kyoto and SysHorizon been in the rotation MORE than the new map Fortune Stadium..... ya'll know we hate those 2 maps right?

flint torrent
#

direct grenade explosion should 1 shot a light

quick coyote
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Rethink medium archetype

red echo
signal basin
# clever hawk **Light** *Cloak* ˗ Decloak time: 0s → 0.5s ˗ No weapon fire whilst cloaked + Re...

Light:
Dude, wanna nerf the last weapons on Light that's never get nerf yet. Let the M11 like it is. Light got less and less DPS and still continu to get instant kill by 80% on the game.
Ok with the 93R. Vanishing Bomb, I don't care. Breach why not... I'm not using it anymore so...

Medium :
Turret, I disagree. Model ? Not enough at all. Why not for the defib.

Heavy :
The hook doesn't need change.
Nerf more the Charge and Slam. M60 is fine like this. But I agree to nerf Deagles.
I can be OK with RPG but it already get enough nerf. I should be more destruction than damage from my POV.

Regen ? No thanks. It's OK like this.

sturdy holly
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Can we please get a system that allows you to search for multiple regions at once. The single region search is actively causing smaller regions to be so dead in certain gamemodes, because everyone just switches to regions with more players.
Why not do the same? because the ping is so awful. To play world tour i have to be searching Asia region on 180-300 ping which feels awful. Literally cannot find a match in Oceania, unless its powershift or quick cash.

misty swift
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The so called "CHALLENGING" Matches feels kind of easy and the "EASY" matches kills your ass lol what a game

lime lichen
rocky turtle
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FCAR needs a rework, recoil is very bad

autumn hawk
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I cant send a side to side comparison but the new inverted setting for flash bangs is a nerf, when you get indirectly flashed you can see less when its inverted as your screen gets darker, while when its bright you still have viability to some extent. (I guess you saved your eyes but also nerf the flash xD)

torpid quarry
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How about dont nerf stuff anymore lol. Just buff other stuff

clever hawk
# signal basin Light: Dude, wanna nerf the last weapons on Light that's never get nerf yet. L...

M11 nullifies all of its competitors and I think it’s healthy for the game to reduce damage levels across the board.

Charge n Slam needs good damage for the trade off of putting away your weapon. Pointblank charges would do 60 less damage than they currently do & hitting one guy multiple times would be much less effective.

Little point in using RPG for destruction when it does 100 damage and has a 45s cooldown. It’s still a fight initiator.

Health regen is excessively long and contributes to the reliance on Healing Beam. It takes a Heavy 18 seconds to go from low HP to full. It’s crazy.

@lime lichen it totally nullifies fortifications with little effort and is highly spammable. It was always great but they’ve increased the size of the holes massively to account for it failing to carve through multiple layers. No reason for those holes to last 30 seconds.

thorny hare
vapid drum
#

Embark Please Rework Revolver

waxen grove
#

How many seasons do they need to get enough money for arc raiders?

faint saddle
#

Buff the god damn running speed while holding dagger a heavy is faster then me

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worn sigil
#

Next season must have emerald rewards from the beginning so I know if I wanna grind or not
🤣🤔🍿

spark shard
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I'm not going to mention that the Model needs to be nerfed; I'm going a step further: what is the point of giving this weapon to a class that has good HP and great mobility? It adds to the fact that there is no recoil penalty on the weapon; it is always steady, regardless of whether you're walking, running, jumping, or doing 70 backflips... weapons like this, as they are currently built for a Medium class with the characteristics described above, make zero sense.

I don't know how you plan to fix this when you're constantly nerfing other weapons that could counter the Model.

stuck verge
#

You need to disable parties in ranked. It is unfair to solo queue against three-stacks.

torpid quarry
#

They really need to do something about the famas dude

smoky sluice
rough herald
naive gust
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Why am I punished when the game crashes from no fault of my own? I reopen the game as soon as I could but by the time I rejoined the other two teammates left :p (in world tour btw)

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stuck verge
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every match is a stomp in solo queue, you need to remove parties from ranked

mortal notch
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Model meta makes me want to drink paint stripper
It’s been 2 and a half seasons
Please remove your brainworms embark

torpid sky
signal basin
# clever hawk M11 nullifies all of its competitors and I think it’s healthy for the game to re...

Light got the XP nerf to do the same damage as the M11 but with lower rpm and less bullets so everyone switch to the M11 (faster and more bullets).
Now you wanna nerf the M11 damage ? When to be effective you have to be in CQC and so take a lot of dmg to maybe one kill ? And probably die in a frame.
Nerf the M11 right now is pointless. Light are just taking nerf and nerf on every weapons without logic. Everyone here is complaining about "light class being OP" which is completly false because this same people will insulting you in game because you're playing light and apparently gonna be useless.

Wanna nerf M11 ? People gonna return on LH1 (already nerf), V9S (nerf too) or on the XP (already nerf too and "buff" but still useless) so the next step will be what ? Nerf XP again to 14 dmg ? Nerf LH1 to 39 dmg ?

Meanwhile, M and H running the game and got faster DPS than the Light with 100HP more minimum ?

If Light have to hit and run so give them the opportunity too. LH1 is worst than the PIKE. Light shotgun ? Worst than the MODEL or the other one from H. Maybe the V9S ? Compare to Deagle and Magnum ? Hmmm... I don't know.

I'm playing since the OB and I never see one day with a META who need to have at least ONE LIGHT in a squads. Medium ? Sure ! Heavy ?! SURE TOO !!
Light ? Never. Give them a chance to exist in this unbalance game. And it will not with a new nerf.

hoary torrent
#

Can someone help me explain, is this community mission to be done with a friend??

lone sand
#

remove Kyoto

clever hawk
# signal basin Light got the XP nerf to do the same damage as the M11 but with lower rpm and le...

Light struggles to fit into the meta because of its innate health disparity. To address that you’d need game-wide changes to accompany it.

LH1 is still great and most of its options are still good. M11 is the outlier compared to its many competitors. We saw Throwing Knives buffed to a comparative level and the player base had a meltdown.

Having Light be a glass cannon sucks both for the Light - which cannot play OBJ like the other classes - and for those playing against Light, which is why casuals hate it and think it’s OP.

@echo arch - quick cash console shitter begging for aim assist buffs to play the game for you #👂┇game-feedback message

low epoch
#

The game mode "cashout" is the most toxic game mode in any game. It is so unfair. Remove the vaults, put timers on cashouts for when they open. Give cash for time you hold it and a ending bonus

night spruce
#

Resolve the issue with ranked there are to little players playing ranked right now and that's because of world tour.

  • Season 2 Diamond 4-1 was atleast a big gap.
  • Season 4 Diamond 4 is equal to Ruby (top 500).
blissful bridge
#

more modes, custom lobbies and map editor please

stuck verge
quaint jetty
#

Solo q is a terrible experience and I’m pretty much done with the game

torpid sky
clever hawk
weary pine
robust patio
#

why the hell am i loosing points for matches i CANT WIN. wtf do you mean 4 diamonds and 2 ruby players in a plat 3 lobby???? and i have a plat and a gold player??? wwhyyy please tell me how the hell is that fair???

dry plover
#

Embrak Please Rework Revolver Like ,Cassidy/Mcree from Overwatch

torpid sky
teal minnow
clever hawk
# torpid sky share ur embark id and show us your rank, i doubt it's even plat with this takes...

LMAO rank goblin. I keep all my profiles separate. Diamond+ every season which isn’t hard. Plat in this game is closer to silver in an actual comp game and even they have a mild understanding of what you don’t. Stick to reaction images, it’s better than when you actually try to contribute to discussion.

@echo arch again, aim assist is already strong. It doesn’t need to be utterly broken as in CoD/Apex/etc. Input-based matchmaking is what’s necessary, so console players aren’t effectively forced into PC lobbies

red echo
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https://youtu.be/8lRWpvLiTn8?si=4VvR98JrmLUzjzCg nobody like this shit remove it

YouTube
Daoloth64
The Finals Visual Recoil Showcase Season 4

This video shows firing while standing, walking to the right and crouching walking backwards. No attempt to compensate for physical recoil was done because this is a video about visual recoil. Also 2x zoom and 0.5 speed footage.

Inspired by this reddit thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/thefinals/comments/1gxflcg/whats_the_point_of_visual_recoil_...

▶ Play video
hollow badger
#

nerf akm

night glen
#

Who in their right mind thinks that "Earn 1,000,000 cash" is a good challenge? This is for people who want to spend the time to do Tournaments. A few games a day does not make this challenge doable for most players.

dusky apex
#

I started a cashout steal with 15 seconds remaining, uninterupted, and got a round over with 8 seconds left on the clock (the cashout didnt finish) FIX UR SERVERS

torpid sky
atomic delta
#

remove melee weapons. ruins the game in every sense. and thats coming from a former dagger main. Its just so annoying to play against

ok let me rephrase it, remove hammer. the others can stay

clever hawk
# torpid sky "rank goblin"

““rank goblin””

#👂┇game-feedback message

At least you’ve reverted to images again

@echo arch Aim assist is already so good that the only way to improve it would be to raise it to CoD levels - it was like this at release and the devs quickly nerfed it. Aim better.

limpid light
deep arch
#

Is there a reason my xbox can no longer handle The Finals? Every game now is lagging. Ive been playing since the beta never had problems before

bold thicket
#

Game is great, Lights been a problem since day 1, Nerf M11!!!!

upper citrus
fleet socket
#

Embark please, it's iseult week we need the drip!

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shy token
#

As we can all see, THE FINALS' community is deeply passionate when it comes to concept art and making drip. Earlier this year we saw the switch away from exclusive bundle pricing to individual items now being made available for purchase. This alone allowed a great amount of customisation and personalisation of the game. But @shy token is back this time to argue the case for community driven input.

By allowing the community to create fan-made concepts and outfits using available items, TF has allowed its community to creatively flourish. However, we think, and there are others who have considered this idea as well within the community, that new community made items should be given the chance to be official and in-game.

This would not be the first time that such a thing exists in the world of gaming. Warframe's 'TennoGen' is one of the best examples of having the community be involved in the creative process. This engagement's potential is virtually limitless and invaluable for the game's longevity and community. It can be further sustained by giving the creator(s) a chance to be awarded through a variety of ways, in combination or merely by themselves:
(a) recognition,
(b) in-game or IRL payment,
(c) but most importantly a free (perhaps personalised) version of the very same item that will be immortalised in the world of TF.
(DAY 90)

mild sorrel
clear niche
#

Love the new META guys!

Embark is enjoying it’s prolongued vacation as the community is trying to prove them some points!

The Finals is no longer the game that it used to be!

Right now it’s a waiting game in order to steal cashboxes for a plug.
It’s no longer about the battles to be the first one to get to the vault.
No no guys! We’ll be using 3 mediums with models and defibs in order to camp out the cashouts and steal the cashboxes from the players that play the game like it should be played.

Inb4 all the femboy/catdogpeople will reply to this whining about their beloved models. Go play call of duty pls.

waxen citrus
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Please Add SAFE ZONES for the HUD 🙏

thorny lynx
#

86 year old men in the bathroom with no lights on have better hit reg than this game in current state

torpid sky
rough storm
teal minnow
#

Thank you for putting me in a ranked game with a teammate missing then saying that the overall RS is over 100k,jump

smoky sluice
surreal meadow
tame crag
#

Embark please introduce an XP boost soon for the end of the season, the last two pages require more XP than can be reasonably obtained playing the game

fervent vortex
uneven dagger
#

Game is dying mf’s when I see them playing the finals

Honestreaction

brave copper
#

Maybe try making glitch nades and barrels glitch dead player trophies, preventing revives for a time. And let people say no if they get hit with a defib that's just going to get them killed instantly. That or remove defibs and rework spawn mechanics to keep the pace of the game up.

I would prefer removal because 50% of my hate on that gadget is due to my team using it on me in a way that just guarantees another instant death.

It's also so OP that it's not even optional for a medium trying to be the most effective. This is how RPG felt for heavy and glitch felt for light. Over time you guys have made changes that free up those slots for other options but rpg and glitch are still good.

I dont see how you can do that for defibs because a free revive is always a free revive. It's too powerful no matter how you change it, it seems so far.

lost talon
#

do not add vanilla TDM you will regret it

rough herald
rough storm
upper citrus
vapid drum
#

Embark Rework Revoler and make it like mcree from overwatch

worn sigil
#

I thought all F2P games could be played without PS+..
I guess next season I won't play until I find a discounted price for it then KEKW
🤣😭

waxen citrus
#

Please Add SAFE ZONES for the HUD 🙏

cosmic narwhal
#

Day 20 of asking for a ready up button

smoky sluice
signal basin
#

Read my name.

  • **NERF MODEL DAMAGES ! **
  • Add an indicator for the frag grenade !
  • Nerf a bit damage Deagle at mid/long range
  • Reverse XP nerf. Same dmg than a M11 but slower RPM and less bullets. JUST USELESS !
  • Rework mesh shield
  • Nerf Charge'N'Slam. Too much damage.
  • Nerf Deagle damage
  • Give back the rpm on the V9S but let the damage.
  • Buff grapple. Reduce cooldown by 1 sec or add charge.
  • If Hook do damage, Stun gun should do. Put damage for both of them or no damage for both of them.
  • Nerf the right clic + Dash on Light. You couldn't dash with your sword or dagger charge. Too strong.
  • Nerf defib. To strong. It's litteraly the M meta.
  • Mates being revive with defib shouldn't tank bullets. Or should take damage !
  • Patch the level up bug on weapons at the end of matches. It's been here since many months now !
  • Kill, Assist, Revive and Objectives points should add more points in ranked even with you lose T1.
  • Fix the recoil bug/pattern
  • Fix the spawn after a wipe, SHOULD NOT RESPAWN on CashOut and camping for your vault

More on the game :

  • BAN CHEATERS AND TOXIC PLAYER. I'm done of getting insult. Report them do nothing. AND PERMA BAN ! NOT 7 DAYS
  • Sound balance is terrible.
  • Do something for the poor matchmaking in ranked.
  • Ban cheaters. We need more feedback on our report IG and on Discord.
  • Increase the netcode / tickrate / servers ! Or maybe it's lag compensation ?! I'm done getting kill at 3 meters far from a hammer or a sword
  • Let us choose our sight weapons at the begining of a game
  • Let us go in pratice with friends
  • Delete low gravity event. Just the worst event in this game.
  • Some event appear in front of the scoreboard. Fix it please
  • Random skin and charm list for weapons / gadgets
  • Add a TDM mode for warming up.
  • We shouldn't lost point in ranked when a team mate leave the squad and didn't play during the round
  • Let us invite friends or join them in group even if we are not the leader
  • Add the possibility to PM friends in the lobby
  • Add the possibility to look at the profil/card of friends
  • Let us leave a game without penality in ranked if we are only 2 or 1 in the squad !
  • Some spawn are still at the opposite of the objective.

I will always post this now and add some changes time to time.

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undone swallow
hearty hatch
#

Would like to see a "Menu Soundtrack" changer for all the seasons we've had so far. It would be nice to be able to set the music from S1-S3 as an option kind of like in Apex Legends. I miss the S1 music and would love to be able to use it at will.

Also, defib should have a short cooldown after someone gets rezzed by the defib ability.

Also, sword lunge hitbox/length nerf really did some bad for the weapon. Please revert either the hitbox or lunge distance, but not both.

digital sinew
#

i know u dont give a fuck, but this is my last season supporting the finals, i regret spending money, i thought u had a special game, now its filled with broken weapons and cheaters, i will play from time to time but that's it, i will be waiting for ARC, but yeah, my expectations are so low

tired bear
#

stop devoting all of your devs to arc raiders, youll be known as the devs who ignored one of their best, and pretty sure only game. once arc raiders takes off, theyll see embark, and know that they ignored the people from the finals. lock in guys.

teal minnow
tame crag
#

I assume Embark knows this, but the model is in a really strong position. Most of the time it’s better to buff other weapons, but with the model I think it needs a small nerf alongside buffs to other weapons to have it feel balanced.

red echo
vapid drum
# undone swallow no. medium does not need MORE cqc weapons like cassidy's revolver. revolver is f...

Medium need it, if a different team suddenly attack you while in the range of close comba they can out speed revolver shooting time. Example heavy with flame thrower charge in behind you without you know, how are you fight him properly they just hold the fire button and jumping and dodging while you need to ads +you got slow reduction movement speed. Other example light with dash and m11 in close range with you that don’t need to use ads because the bullet hip fire is better then revolver. I already know every weakness of the revolver because I use it every time (main revolver) and their weakness is suddent CQC because when you are panic your aim become more shitty

brittle obsidian
#

Revert AKM mag size nerf, buff FCAR recoil, and nerf model damage

mint kiln
#

OKAY HEAR ME OUT - quick cash RANKED

waxen citrus
#

Please Add SAFE ZONES for the HUD 🙏

final solar
#

ffs just nerf model already.... i beg you

willow yoke
#

Your fucking devs are so dumb i cant believe it
How can a team that loses 6 fights the whole game still make it to the next round by just capuring one fucking final vault.
They didnt manage to defend one cashout all game long
but 22k vault gg
get carried by rng

rough storm
plush fjord
summer elk
jagged vector
#

If next season doesn’t bring back players and fix lots of the issues this game will die next year

cyan hinge
#

hey I'm having trouble running the finals on my PC on Steam it keeps on giving me an error code 30005

lost talon
#

whoever is ""optimizing"" the game right now is an insider mole from EA trying to sabotage the game. Incredible to witness. This is the worst patch yet, and surpassed the alien one. Revert the game to it's pre alien skin update state and get rid of the mole. Leave the actual game alone until you have enough time dedicated to proper testing to push out these kind of changes. These are incremental changes that people might not notice and they'll start quiet quitting.

signal basin
severe raft
#

Game reaches 105 degrees and crashes multiple times an hour even when set to low. I have no idea what’s going on.

My specs:
Processor Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-14900KF 3.20 GHz
Installed RAM 32.0 GB (31.9 GB usable)
System type 64-bit operating system, x64-based processor
GPU Nvidia Geforce RTX 4090

(Should note no other game goes remotely beyond 60 degrees, I have both water calling and fans & I’m in an air conditioned room.)

delicate yarrow
#

ngl br and tdm would be insane for the finals

quaint forge
#

CAN I GET FICKING TEAMMATES IN THE FINASL

hazy isle
#

I've been getting alot of GPU crashes during this 4th season.
Things like:

GPU Crash dump Triggered

GPU Crash: Scene > [ReflectionIndirect > ScreenSpaceReflections > SSR] > ReflectionEnvironmentAndSky] > [VolumetricFog > GenerateConservativeDepthBuffer]****

Also there's been other kinds aswell but they're all this "GPU Crash dump" stuff.

smoky sluice
tired bear
waxen sorrel
#

The endless revive cycle against a 3 stack medium team is not fun.

latent niche
dusty igloo
#

The chain should not cancel a melee attack, my character is putting all of his might into swinging his spoon straight into an enemies face, he is 0.1s away from making full contact and breaking every single bone in the enemies body, but then they pull them with a chain and all of that stops?

tropic snow
#

buff fcar dmg and reduce mag size back to how it was

clever hawk
slender pine
#

LIGHT SWORDS are the fucking worst. can we stop buffing them

fervent vortex
quartz dirge
misty swift
#

  1. I am using stun gun since season 1 but still the white color hasn't been unlocked lol what a *%$@ game

  2. you can't rank up with randoms above gold for very obvious reasons

lost talon
#

non slug shotguns should not be doing any damage at the other end of the room

upper citrus
dapper atlas
#

game full of cheaters where the anticheat's team is just for show and scratching their balls.

surreal meadow
tired bear
torpid sky
#

when iam on heavy against model i feel like iam playing light with how fast i die

rough storm
willow yoke
night spruce
coral turtle
#

I think heavy need some kind of stuff that make him able to get to roofs as fast like medium and light

spare topaz
#

Please address the performance issues on Kyoto🙏🏼

covert dock
wide void
radiant moat
#

im happy for the new player retention this season but i really dont think playing the game in diamond elo ahs ever been so unfun before, i kept playing after hitting diamond but next season im uninstalling right after if it's the same

frank jungle
#

Why does light have 3 extra weapons and 2 extra gadgets?

clever hawk
# quartz dirge spreadsheets aint everything lmao

It’s a good job 2 of the 3 points had nothing to do with spreadsheets then

@fervent vortex - can’t understand data. Also aren’t you that ass heavy guy.

@upper citrus the guy that thought pike was a bigger problem than Defib has arrived

fervent vortex
upper citrus
# clever hawk It’s a good job 2 of the 3 points had nothing to do with spreadsheets then <@65...

Guys when you’re within 10m with the lowest hp class in the game it’s close range gun is really strong!!!11!! Isn’t that op!!!?!??

Who even are you? No one knows your name. If you genuinely think m11 is too strong then you aren’t a good player. No exceptions

Also, defib is still not the problem with the mid range support class dealing too much close range damage. Believe it or not, the insane cqc damage weapons! Insane concept I know!

charred ivy
#

Please, i beg you, just fix it so if i shoot to point X, the bullet does actually go there.

bold moth
#

hopefully the last 2 weeks of the season have some big boosts to xp and fans
I've probably played this season the most out of any other season, but im still 850k xp away from full BP completion, and I need 70000 more fans to finish the career pass
with challenges, I have 60000 left to earn of XP and 50000 left for fans

smoky sluice
deep summit
rough herald
bright nexus
#

Make terminal attack not suspend matchmaking it makes no sense

twilit sand
#

disable cashout doubling

maiden crypt
wraith salmon
#

embark please update fsr2 to fsr3.1.2 for non nvidia players

surreal meadow
# radiant moat im happy for the new player retention this season but i really dont think playin...

DID SOMEONE MENTTION NEW PLAYER RETENTION??
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royal maple
#

pretty fire

nocturne trench
#

120 FPS and mouse on console

coral turtle
serene perch
wispy sand
#

Per class/Weapon/Gadget statistics please

merry flicker
#

A problem for one of my friends is lag. He uses an old pc and is upgrading soon but it lags a lot when building break and a large amount of players die. I think a good suggestion would be to add a setting that minimalists the particle effects made by these interactions. For example, if you had this setting on and you got an elimination, only about half of the particles would be spawned.

spare topaz
spare mirage
#

Game is very badly optimized

pine garden
#

After seeing two heavies start a moshpit with their new guitar skin an also jam out with other heavies... I think it's only fair lights get an inspect for the "throwing cds" that lets them DJ

clever hawk
# fervent vortex idk top 3 is decent imo, also people that look at data wonder why they are shit ...

Calling rank in the finals lmfao, this is an arcade game. Ruby here is platinum in any comp fps. Reading comprehension must be another issue for you given the data was a third of my message.

If you can move your character and get within 10m of someone the SA is a monster. It has freedom of movement that Lewis doesn’t, which gives them a comparable difficulty to get value from. It’s embarrassing that you think that thing is hard to use.

@upper citrus Having an opinion would be better than typing like a baby. I don’t use the same name on any platform, I keep everything separate.

M11 is an outlier and its competition is at the level they should be. If that makes me bad you must be an absolute dribbler for your Defib takes. You are incapable of separating the MMM comp from M as a class. You thought the weapon introduced 2 months ago was at bigger fault for the prominence of a class that has never left the meta across an entire year.

@fervent vortex scrimmage tourneys are only a little more meaningful

tired bear
fervent vortex
tired fable
#

don't add grenade indicator
if we should nerf grenade, it should be damages or CDs

upper citrus
# clever hawk Calling rank in the finals lmfao, this is an arcade game. Ruby here is platinum ...

Wow you are dumber than I thought. Healing and team sustain will never leave the meta. It is inherently too strong to ever not be meta. Medium is meta as a class because it has the only source of healing and the only direct sustain gadget in the game. Triple medium is meta because its weaknesses go unchecked due to certain primary weapons.

How to fix MMM? Nerf model

How to fix M being a must pick? Give weaker healing/sustain gadgets to light and heavy.

How to ruin the strength of a class and nerf it down to generic battlefield soldier? Nerf defib before medium gets more support gadgets.

Again, who even are you? If you’re gonna say my opinions are bad then at least correctly quote them

waxen tusk
#

No custom inspect animation for the Holtow sledge is CRIMINAL!!!

brittle obsidian
smoky sluice
#

@bold moth have you played ranked before?

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bold moth
# upper citrus Wow you are dumber than I thought. Healing and team sustain will *never* leave t...

wait
you're upset over defib?
the item which already has been nerfed to have a delay and only brings back teammates to half health?
like sure its a must bring, but I wouldn't say it needs a nerf (especially because its countered by, like, half the gadgets in the game)
@brittle obsidian hey im only just jumping in, idk what yall've been saying i just glanced over his message.
thanks for the catch up, but do we play the same medium? Nerfing defib would be a major shift for the class sure, but Medium is still the only class with (good) team movement tools & shutting down enemy gadgets
@smoky sluice just to get my placements done, but still it cant be that hard to just drop a mine or pyro on an active defib or on a body to get an advantage over it
@neon burrow pyro grenade, the mines, maybe the remote explosives if you time it right. less than half the gadgets yeah but still very common picks.
@wide void Yeah nah, that sounds reasonable. Glitch sources really should shut down active defibs anyways. Although being able to damage a defib to stop it before it pops feels like a bit much. I'd say if you could damage a defib, it should be to take down the health that player respawns with (like, revert it to restore closer to full health, but damaging the defib hologram can take it down past half health)
Also, someone was saying M11 was unbalanced? thats just so wrong

lilac edge
#

Your teammates "hitbox" is way too big, when a teammate goes in front of me, even if i aim beside him, he still absorbs the bullets...

neon burrow
dusty igloo
#

Glitch traps should have an actual nerf rather then this pseudo one of only being able to carry one at a time while still being able to place two and it being buffed at the start of the season, it shouldnt have an overtime effect, it shouldnt be able to reach me from Berlin and this one is not as important but it should have an APS like health system where it slowly loses health as its used

wide void
# bold moth wait you're upset over defib? the item which already has been nerfed to have a d...

@upper citrus I think Defib being a must bring is an issue. Even Gateway and RPG aren't as big of must-brings as Defib is.

I agree Medium is the support class, but their support is too strong given they still have great weapons. Light's hit and run game is too weak. Heavy's area and cover control is fine, they primarily just need less range on Deagles and less burst damage on CnS.

If Defib only resurrected to 100 HP, it would buff L and still be useful for reviving M and H in a pinch. If the holograms could be destroyed with damage or glitching, again, it would still be useful in a pinch.

Think about using Defib on a teammate as doing healing. Now imagine the healing output versus damage output. Defib can instantly heal 175 HP in under a second, plus provide invincibility, all while moving around erratically. There's no real counterplay to someone running in and getting a defib off. Even if you could shoot or glitch the hologram, doing so demands you take attention away from the Medium for a moment, which allows them to shoot back.

Glitch grenades destroying holograms would also be another L buff.

With all that being said, @clever hawk: M11 is balanced and Model deserves nerfs.

golden harbor
fleet heron
#

we need killcam so much, ranked is full of cheaters

maiden epoch
#

Fix the defib spam. It is literally just mindless chain rezzing with no consequence.

quick coyote
#

Day something of asking embark to completely delete visual recoil, and add custom static reticles with customizable colors, there should be no reason someone with a monitor can use a stationary reticle meanwhile, i dont have enough to shell out money for a new one. It's rng and pay to win. Less people would use the model if the guns were accurate

clever hawk
# upper citrus Wow you are dumber than I thought. Healing and team sustain will *never* leave t...

Another one with severe reading comprehension issues.

  • “Again, who even are you?”
  • “I don’t use the same name on any platform, I keep everything separate”

You can’t form an argument without reaching for rank first. I’ve scrimmed and the average skill of a scrimmer in this arcade game isn’t worth the time, which is why your boyfriend’s claim to fame is hilarious. Play a real game if you want a worthwhile ego.

  • “If you’re gonna say my opinions are bad then at least correctly quote them”
  • “Guys when you’re within 10m with the lowest hp class in the game it’s close range gun is really strong!!!11!! Isn’t that op!!!?!??”

Another bout of dribbling rather than forming something coherent.

Just because you can’t envisage M’s support being lowered to a power level that leaves its exclusion viable, especially in pubs, doesn’t make it a reality. If you think Defib holograms being destructible “ruins the strength of a class” you are simply a bot.

Relying instead upon Embark adding the exact items you think necessary is braindead given we’ve received 2 specialisations & 4 gadgets across an entire year. Surprisingly, addressing the problem in front of you is more effective than wishing something into sudden existence.

rough storm
clear niche
upper citrus
# clever hawk Another one with severe reading comprehension issues. - “Again, who even are yo...

“Who are you” isn’t a literal question. My point is that you are a random nobody has heard of. Use common sense.

There is nothing wrong with the current maximum support output of medium. The ONLY reason it’s a must pick is because it’s the ONLY class with direct team sustain tools like healing beam and defib. These types of tools will ALWAYS be meta to an extent. Nerfing the existing ones before more are added is a stupid idea that will lead to medium taking even more of a duelist role in meta team comps, which is objectively a bad thing in terms of giving classes unique identities and roles in the meta.

I agree that “waiting for embark to add these things” is extremely hopeful and takes forever but I’d much rather advocate for the best path to good balancing rather than advocate for short term bandaid fixes that will create more problems down the line. Nerf defib once medium gets more support gadgets. There’s nothing wrong with defib right now. Just as there wasn’t anything wrong with defib in 2.6 when fcar was nerfed and people thought AKM was the best weapon. Nobody complained about medium then even though its support tools were over twice as strong.

There’s a great video on this exact subject :—) https://youtu.be/ZZGyrtwP48c?si=Vh7xJh8_b7KAvBwN

YouTube
huxsTF
How to fix MEDIUM in THE FINALS

someone tell skul to stop inting my ranked games

▶ Play video
surreal meadow
lean tree
#

If you (the devs) next season don't fix all this, this game will die. I LOVED this game so much and i miss season 1/2. This whole game has changed and now every fucking game is legit the same! There is no tactics or strategy anymore. It just is Triple Medium, Defib with Models and its honestly INSANE. the game is starting to feel like a fucking drought playing. After one game my whole mood playing this game is completely gone...

The steal and plug meta is HORRIBLE. People are not playing the finals anymore it just is steal it, plug it, next one steal it plug it and then fight over one cash out on the cash out with two parties fighting already. Where back in the day ALL this was not a problem. Our team has the most kills almost every game but still we lose so much games just because the steal and plug meta is horrible. Im literally on the verge of uninstalling this game because of every game just being the same. The model is AT LEAST 40-50% used in EVERY game, if this is what you guys call 'balancing'. This alone is a sign that this gun needs a NERF!!!

There is 0 fun to it only way to counter the triple M, Model meta is to play it yourself but honestly i don't even like to play with shotguns. Then the matchmaking is SO TRASH, Every game if i Duo Q and there is a random. he can't play the game. Solo Q im not even gonna talk about that because it is not possible, i get every game the most toxic teammates with 0 objective.

torpid sky
smoky sluice
safe relic
#

So I take it Embark is just not going to fix the fucking issue of being unable to change class before the round starts on Xbox? It seemingly works fine on Powershift, but on everything else, I guess I can go fuck myself.

glacial salmon
#

RPG is still cucked, reviving is still cucked, you cucked the range on sledgehammers, triple M is still cucked since launch, your whole game is fucked

Your matchmaking is cucked too, all i join is in-progress games that are already over lmao.

worn sigil
#

Add non meta weapons into the WT/Ranked rewards such as Sniper, Revolver & Flamethrower

Show us emerald WT rewards from the beginning of the season!

&

Make the game playable without PS+ (other free games like Apex Fortnite Warzone do)
🍿😈💯

weary pine
tribal spoke
#

Please buff the dual blades. I suggest removing the 50/50,60/60,70 combo and replacing it with flat 55/55 damage slashes, it fixes the light and heavy breakpoints without touching medium ttk (Which is fine though struggles with Model). And or improve the swing speed by 5-15% to decrease the ttk. Having to have to cancel or miss the first swing on a light is annoying at best and pretty impractical to get a reasonable ttk against one of the most mobile classes in the game

latent niche
#

After giving Powershift a good try and playing it for about 20-30 games this season I have confirmed that I hate it a LOT. It is no fun for anyone other than snipers. The things that could remedy its flaws are so easy to implement i'm kind of sad they haven/t been. Please add higher walls or a plus shaped wall in the middle of the to give some actual cover so we don't have to always pick heavy with barricade mesh wall to counter the only meta that's been there for like 8 months.

It's stale and i'm sad that my favourite, and the most inventive mode is stale to me. Please please give the powershift platform some love.

Suggestions as a Powershift enjoyer and disliker:

-as said above, give the platform some love; add a ceiling, walls or a plus shaped wall structure to hide from grenades and mid-long range fire
-make the platform (and new, added walls) "dematerialisable" to give that spec a use. Every other spec has a use in that mode except Demat.
-make the platform move 2/3x faster than it does dependent on the number of people on it. don't stop the platform when an enemy gets on it, slow it down.
Why?? the platform movemen't isn't notceable or fast enough. More people will want to "make platform go zoom" if the platform indeed did move like 10-20m/second.
-if the platform moves fast, then the game will end fast, and yo will lose fast if you don't get on it, help your team or be attentive. Giving actual consequences to those that neglect the objective - -
-you shouldn't get to just freely snipe for 8 minutes, the platform should move fast enough that snipers have to constantly rotate and find new high ground. it's too easy to just sit and rat with no counterplay

So in a sentence, make powershift great again by making the platform WAY faster and adding walls for cover that can be dematerialised hug_friend hug_friend hug_friend

wide void
# upper citrus “Who are you” isn’t a literal question. My point is that you are a random nobody...

@clever hawk Again, I agree that Medium has too good of damage (especially up-close with Model), but I also agree the support aspect is too strong primarily because of Defib. And Defib being a must-pick for every M in your team is an issue regardless of how many Mediums on your team (even 0) are meta to have.

I think what your video ignores is that Medium has other support gadgets, too, that are still useful: APS (could use a small buff), Glitch Trap, Gas Mine, Explosive Mine (again, could use a small buff), and mobility.

Either Defib needs to be brought down to these other gadgets' levels, or they need to be brought up to Defib. Because if something has a 100% pickrate, what is the point in even having the option to swap it out?

clever hawk
# upper citrus “Who are you” isn’t a literal question. My point is that you are a random nobody...

No shit if I do not share names. I have scrimmed your bf and iirc he was a pure mesh/SA hog, which would explain his insistence that SA is skilful. Your “point” is also totally irrelevant to discussion.

I’ve seen that video and it revolves around deconstructing MMM comp in season 4, which we’ve already been over.

The support output is far too much and reducing it is not a band-aid. Reducing disparity between classes is a good thing. As it is, the game trends towards horrible Overwatch-style restrictions that are a nightmare to balance. As we’ve seen with the absolute dominance of M and relative lack of existence of L. People don’t enjoy H shield spam nor M heal spam.

People have complained about M/Defib since before the game released. Casuals find Defib obnoxious - as the video acknowledges - which is another reason to reduce its influence.

Reduce both the maximum output of M’s support and its reliability (eg destructible holograms) and there can exist a meta without it. On an individual level, it being an absolute outlier is undeniable given its pickrate. There is so much room beneath it. The base health regen rate is egregious - 18 seconds for a H from low - and further incentivises support. You can chip away at this from multiple avenues. Movement tools being another.

wraith salmon
#

embark add fsr 3.1.2 bc fsr 2 is outdated shit !!!

lean tree
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If you (the devs) next season don't fix all this, this game will die. I LOVED this game so much and i miss season 1/2. This whole game has changed and now every fucking game is legit the same! There is no tactics or strategy anymore. It just is Triple Medium, Defib with Models and its honestly INSANE. the game is starting to feel like a fucking drought playing. After one game my whole mood playing this game is completely gone...

The steal and plug meta is HORRIBLE. People are not playing the finals anymore it just is steal it, plug it, next one steal it plug it and then fight over one cash out on the cash out with two parties fighting already. Where back in the day ALL this was not a problem. Our team has the most kills almost every game but still we lose so much games just because the steal and plug meta is horrible. Im literally on the verge of uninstalling this game because of every game just being the same. The model is AT LEAST 40-50% used in EVERY game, if this is what you guys call 'balancing'. This alone is a sign that this gun needs a NERF!!!

There is 0 fun to it only way to counter the triple M, Model meta is to play it yourself but honestly i don't even like to play with shotguns. Then the matchmaking is SO TRASH, Every game if i Duo Q and there is a random. he can't play the game. Solo Q im not even gonna talk about that because it is not possible, i get every game the most toxic teammates with 0 objective.

covert yacht
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The anti-cheat in this game has to be the worst in any game ever. Like how can i see top 500s in both WT and normal ranked with a lot of games and they are just blatant cheating or in a lot of cases the op 500s are playing with other cheaters to get boosted

jaunty blaze
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i think it would be cool if stickers could be customized

surreal meadow
# lean tree If you (the devs) next season don't fix all this, this game will die. I LOVED th...

i agree
third party meta is bad. casual players do not like third partying. we could add TWO TEAM cash gamemode variation. perfect for new players, & returnign players who dont like third parties
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fleet socket
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Knight armor when? We deserve to have more drip in this game

half inlet
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how to change my in game username

upper citrus
# wide void <@583605171179880450> Again, I agree that Medium has too good of damage (especia...

There is a difference between utility and support. Heal beam and defib both directly allow to keep teammates alive by keeping their HP up. Essentially anything that could be defined technically as “healing” is what I mean by support. Utility is everything else and is found on every class. We will never have a meta without healing tools unless they are absolutely nerfed into the ground, which is a bad idea because mediums identity should focus around having the strongest healing presence and team sustain.

Someone on your team will be required to take at least 1 healing tool in order for your team comp to be viable. There is no way around that, this has always been the case for any team based fps like this. It’s especially unavoidable in a game with player made loadouts where trade offs are even harder to enforce. Ex: you can’t give medium super strong weapons that can only be accessed if he’s not using healing beam and defib.

This isn’t necessarily a bad thing though, these healing tools are focused on teamplay and coordination. They are the exact kind of tools we should be looking for in a healthy meta. The only issue is that they only exist on the medium class, meaning that no meta will ever exist without medium.

The only healthy way to fix this is to add similar, but weaker healing/sustain gadgets onto light and heavy. Give heavy a healing station gadget that heals like 30hp/s in a small AOE with a 3s startup delay and 250 HP and a 40s cooldown. Then give light a stim pistol gadget that can be shot at teammates to instantly start their natural regen and can also be used on yourself. It should have a 45s cooldown and 2 charges.

Adding these and nerfing model would immediately remove medium from being a must pick. As you could sacrifice gadget slots on heavy and light for some form of team sustain. And lean harder into the combat strengths of heavy and light for your team comp. But medium would still be the best pick for keeping teammates alive, just not the only way to do so. This also opens up mediums other specs like demat to see more usage in the meta without requiring another medium on heal beam to be viable. And (once medium gets more gadgets) defib would no longer be a must pick on medium either as your team could have high sustain without it. But would still be a viable option. I do agree defib should be nerfed but only once medium gets more healing/sustain gadgets. In order to ensure you can’t make a medium build that keeps their team essentially invincible.

A bit of an essay but this is something I’m pretty passionate about. This is the only healthy way to fix the medium must pick issue in my eyes. It keeps the identity of the class in tact while adding more viable team comps and allows teams to choose who is in charge of the sustain tools on the team and how they want to use them. Does your team like playing defensively? Take a healing station and stick together. Offense, take quick cover and use lights stim pistol. Want the best of both worlds? Pick medium for flexible healing output.

brittle obsidian
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**Revert AKM mag size nerf **- Literally why did this happen? The gun was in a perfect state.

**Smooth out FCAR recoil **- The weird recoil really hampers the feel of using the weapon.

Reduce model 1887 damage and revert the spread changes - High-power CQC weapons don't belong on medium, it breaks the class fundamentally hence why its a must-pick in ranked. Its range is what made it unique to medium, and shouldn't have been what was nerfed in the first place.

Improve reliability of riot shield blocking - Riot shield has the potential to be a really cool utility weapon but falls short because blocking certain things can often feel like a dice roll.

Improve the accuracy and reliability of dual blade deflection - Same reasoning as riot shield, but with the addition of making the bullets easier to land on targets.

sudden notch
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How does a whole tournament not lag until the final round. But we still can't have nukes back.

tired bear
rough storm
dreamy gale
chrome quail
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-tomahawk 4 next seasson plsssssssssss

static wolf
willow yoke
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But thanks we should read that post from the worst data analyst Matt about balancing
cant wait for next season fucking up everything and then no balance until mid season
this game will not be esport ready ever

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quick coyote
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please make a ranked version of all gamemodes. im am so so tired of alaways having a level 1 team when im trying to enjoy other gamemodes then ranked turnament

torpid sky
nova solar
meager adder
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IP based sbmmr.
no more smurf accounts chasing off new players
mac address / hardware ID if you must.
These ruby smurfs wanna play against 0 xp players but they will kill the entire game.
New players cannot have fun while these 900 hour per week players are mopping them.
This game may last another 3 months until the no life's ruin it.

silent grove
tired bear
pseudo relic
# wide void <@546889700183375872> I think Defib being a must bring is an issue. Even Gateway...

Agree 100%, I got a great nerf for the medium that makes the game balanced, if a three teams of medium bring defibrillator and there's one medium left, they can use one Defib, once that defibrillator is used the other teammate cannot use it they'd have to wait for the recharge, that way the defibrillator is fair and balance.

Because a lot of mediums don't use the defibrillator for tend uses, because I see a lot of three mediums bring defibrillator and they do it mid combat which becomes really annoying when they can have a big comeback with three defibrillators making the engagement unfair compared to other teams, especially like classes such as light and heavy.

versed cloud
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Nerf double barrel it shouldn't be a one shot on a light. It should require a quick melee too

granite inlet
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The solo experience in World Tour is abysmal. I just played my first match and got two teammates who had basically never played The Finals before. When I tried to give them constructive help, they turned toxic and repeatedly suicided. Then they said they hope I never win a match. I couldn't get anywhere near the objectives as I was solo against full teams. Amazing experience.

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rough hinge
hexed frigate
wide void
# upper citrus There is a difference between utility and support. Heal beam and defib both dire...

copying @pseudo relic
Just to preface, I do not disagree with giving the other classes more supportive utility including healing. I agree that that is the healthiest way to continue diversifying teams (along with nerfing Defib). But I do want to settle a point of balancing.

Contrary to what you say, even with our current pool of specializations and gadgets, it is entirely possible to nerf Medium's utilities to the point where they are still useful but not required for a viable team. They don't have to be decisively either meta or completely useless. I can prove it

  1. Assume the utility was functional but insanely useless. Assume H. Beam only healed 5 HP/s. Assume Demat had one charge taking 30s to recharge. Assume G. Turret had 25 health. Assume Defib revived with 1 HP and stungunned the reviver and revivee. Etc. This shows you can have support utilities that are too weak to use in a team comp

  2. Assume the utility was insanely powerful. Assume e.g. that Healing Beam did 10,000 HP/s. This (as we can already tell a bit from S4 ) shows it's possible to have support utilities that are so strong, there is no way to not run them

  3. B/c there's a point in which support can be too weak to use, and because there is a point in which support can be too strong to not use, there necessarily must be a balanced point in which support provides value to a team to be worth using but not so much that other non-support options are invalidated. If e.g. H. Beam only healed 20 HP/s, you may be able to play in such a way that it can still help other teammates win a firefight while you yourself regenerate passively, but you may also be able to counter this by simply overwhelming the heal with dmg. (Not truly suggesting this nerf btw)

So in short, we could absolutely nerf M as a whole to the point where having one, two, or maybe even three is still useful at any skill level, but other team comps with 0 Mediums are also viable, provided they can outpace M's utilities

willow yoke
# versed cloud Nerf double barrel it shouldn't be a one shot on a light. It should require a qu...

I agree with that just cancer gun with low skill high reward. While the gun is just trash tier in every ranked mode, still extremely annoying.
All shotguns can just go to F tier honestly. There is no reason to have shotguns in the meta in a movement shooter.

Also start working Matt two changes in the mid season balance patch? Did you really need 2 months to come up with two changes to two guns.
If you keep going like this the game might be balanced in s20 not sure if this game will survive that long before nexons pulls the plug on the slowest balance devs in history

static wolf
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shoutout matt for being a nerd who doesnt play the game and just looks at numbers.(for the noobs in chat model does 128)

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clear niche
stuck junco
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Double barrel is balanced lil bro

rough storm
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Defib doesnt need a nerf it just needs a team-wide shared CD of 1 to 1,5 minutes so the tripple medium meta can't abuse it and so you don't have to fight 6 people every teamfight. 3 possible insta rezzes make team-fights even more luck based and it has no reason it should have ever existed in the first place.

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torpid sky
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defibed contestant shouldn't have protection

fiery tartan
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i wouldnt mind if they had partial protection. but hitting them when they're clearly there and not having any feedback for it really sucks.

silent fog
raw blaze
dreamy gale
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●add omni mouvement like BO6 and a prone mechanic [ heavy movement / meduim feels very slow compared when you play BO6 ]
●add weapon attachement-and different mag sizes ( everyone is using either the akm or the model)
●fix the clipping throught objects
●add a 1080p 120fps mode for ps5
●give us a visual indicator of grenades and the possibilty to throw them back
●add more usefull gadgets
●add more sights options
●add tacticale stance like COD [ to make it easier to shoot when having a long range sight and wanting to shoot at a clonge]
●add a way to limit the number of the same gadget on the same team 3 defib/healing beams is very op
●make explosive weapons deal the same damage to the target and the players at close range
●fix the hitboxes / hit reg issues for the all the melee weapons and also guns
●give console players the ability to play on keyboard and mouse
●give us the ability to select OG seasons music in the entire game not just the menu
●make casual modes in the front of the main menu and make quick cash it shouldn't have a big place holder in the forefront in that category (and add a TDM mode and 5v5 or solo bank it)
●add more useful weapons / gadget that benefit the entire team

upper citrus
# wide void copying <@711040447891374100> Just to preface, I do not disagree with giving the...

You could of course nerf them into the ground for the time being but that’s not going to make the game healthier. It might change the meta but the meta that takes its place would be lacking the team based utility and gameplay that makes this game so special. Contrary to popular belief, defib does have natural counterplay and weaknesses. It’s just completely removed by the existence of the model.

Medium as a whole is meant to be generally weaker than light and heavy in cqc, I think most people have come to agree on this. Well, just like 99% of medium, defib is super weak to cqc. You are spending almost an entire second of your time in a cqc fight to start a revive on a teammate, which 99% of the time will lead to your death as by the time you finish you will only be able to deal a small amount of damage before dying to the enemy right next to you. That leaves a mostly full HP enemy against your teammate who is having their revive camped and will respawn at 50% HP. An incredibly easy scenario for the enemy to win.

Why doesn’t this happen in game? It’s because of the model. You spend 1s defibbing your teammate and then turn to deal 128 instantly to the enemy right next to you. Then your defibbed teammate also has a model the enemy can no longer camp his hologram for a kill. The defibbed user is at an advantage before the fight has even started because he will be able to 1 tap the enemy if they’re a light or medium and 2 tap the enemy if they’re a heavy.

After patch 2.6, the public consensus was (incorrectly) that the AKM was the best weapon on medium. This lasted until around 3.0 and this period of the game is often referred to as the most balanced state of the game. MMM is a genuinely bad comp without model, as all triple stack comps should be. But they still had extremely strong team sustain and mid range damage output. Nobody complained about defib even though it was stronger. Nobody complained about healing beam even though it healed faster, for longer, from further.

Defib is only OP when combined with tools that break its weaknesses. It’s no coincidence that the defib hate has risen dramatically once the model meta was put in full swing.

patent wind
tame crag
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Lately it feels like the V9S has been very overpowering against other lights and mediums. A light should not be able to win a direct head to head encounter with a medium or heavy, but that’s exactly what’s happening with the V9S.

high frost
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The sand maps are visibly messed up. I just played a final match and couldn't see anything yet the enemy could - Clearly a case of tweaking settings. Please fix, thanks.

wide void
# upper citrus You could of course nerf them into the ground for the time being but that’s not ...

@patent wind
To reiterate, I didn't suggest nerfing M "into the ground." I said you can nerf M to the point where they are still useful (and the game incentivizes teamwork). My argument is that both Model and Defib can be nerfed without making M useless.

I also feel it is important to distinguish M as a whole and Defib. Defib being a must-pick necessarily means it's OP individually, regardless of how powerful M themselves are. If M had a 1% pickrate but Defib had a 100% pickrate, that means Defib is OP. And in this sense, Defib has always been OP. There has never been a meta where M could choose to ditch Defib.

I think M is OP because of both Model and Defib (and maybe even Demat), and I think nerfing Defib would help both make M less common (not useless) and make Defib itself less common on M.

But it would also be nice to have more support gadgets on M and even on L and H, yes.

red echo
echo arrow
brave dagger
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I think there needs to be a higher penalty for leaving ranked matches. Can we not impose a system where a leaver takes a percentage of the RS (like 50%) loss of the rest of the team? I understand this is trickier with teams queueing together to avoid matchboosting. But maybe if teamed the team that had the leaver shares the leaver penalty proportionally.

meager adder
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IP based sbmmr.
no more smurf accounts chasing off new players
mac address / hardware ID if you must.
These ruby smurfs wanna play against 0 xp players but they will kill the entire game.
New players cannot have fun while these 900 hour per week players are mopping them.
This game may last another 3 months until the no life players ruin it.

keen lily
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2 teams spawning on the defending team MANY TIMES, after you said you improved the spawn system, I def skip the next season this is so frustrating and makes me lose so many points in 10 minutes while regaining it often takes 30 minutes, I already got muted here once for disrespecting the devs so I won't say anything else this time...

naive gust
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pLEASE ADD the ability to emote/gestures/etc in pregame so I can make friends in the pregaem waiting room

tired bear
patent mural
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You can fix the so called “meta” by just buffing stuff that people dont consider conpetetively viable 🤔

edit: would it REALLY hurt to buff stuff that people put in the F tier? Like come on, is there a point in keeping dual blades as a joke weapon?

Edit 2: sorry if i caused some confusion, i just wanted to point out that if you buffed the “bad” and “non competetively viable” stuff by just a bit it would greatly contribute to the variety and broadness of gadgets/weapons used

brittle obsidian
surreal meadow
upper citrus
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There really isn’t a way to balance defib and heal beam to make them not a requirement for a meta team comp without adding direct replacements. Team sustain and support will always be a must pick in this game unless it’s just extremely weak. Which would lead to less teamplay, and more reward for solo pushing. Something that this game would really be harmed by

@wide void

pseudo relic
# wide void <@971547784102686771> To reiterate, I didn't suggest nerfing M "into the ground....

I see what you mean, it would be nice to see heavy or light with some support option, like DRG classes are.

I still think my idea of when one medium is all by themselfs and use defib, the other medium has to wait for their defib to recharge is fair and make the defib is useful but not Op.

That way so it could stop medium from using in the middle combat and use for its in tend uses.

tulip steppe
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Give us the option to ban maps. I can’t stand Kyoto 🥱

warped gazelle
undone swallow
# patent mural You can fix the so called “meta” by just buffing stuff that people dont consider...

There is a huge difference between your initial post and the edit. Yes things like dual blades, 93r, spear, and grapple all need buffs. But they shouldn't be buffed to the point of completely changing the meta. All that means is that they are better than what we have now, and the meta is already dominated by items that are too strong or poorly designed rather than items that promote healthy playstyles and loadout commitments.

"Fixing" the current meta with buffs would inarguably lead to an even worse meta. Plenty of things need to be nerfed as well as buffed.

patent wind
frank holly
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Buff FCAR

meager adder
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IP based sbmmr.
no more smurf accounts chasing off new players
mac address / hardware ID if you must.
These ruby smurfs wanna play against 0 xp players but they will kill the entire game.
New players cannot have fun while these 900 hour per week players are mopping them.
This game may last another 3 months until the no life players ruin it.
They have enough skill to reach plat, but after that they plateau and want to fight people who have never played before. It's pathetic and ruins the game for everyone.

latent charm
paper hare
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I think they should bring the game back to season 1 cause the game feels like dogshit to play these days

wide void
# patent wind an instant res is an instant res, you used a falacy when saying that nerfing it ...

@upper citrus You're both arguing extremism and ignoring the very real middleground. Please step through the logic one step at a time with me here.

  1. Defib can be designed to be absolutely OP. This is self-evident. Seen in S1.
  2. Defib is OP right now because no Medium ever refuses to use it.
  3. Defib was nerfed in S2, yet it remains a must-pick. This shows an OP item can be nerfed and stay OP.
  4. Therefore, with points 1 to 3, it is possible to nerf Defib right now in a way that it remains OP.
  5. There is self-evidently a point where Defib could be made useless (e.g. killing the user and stunning the resurrected).
  6. Therefore, because of 1 and 5, there is a point where Defib is balanced.
  7. Therefore, with points 4 and 6, you can nerf Defib to the point where it is useful but not required.

You can't argue that "defib will always be meta" and "defib shouldn't be nerfed." This is a contradiction. Unless your reason for keeping it so strong is that that's your preferred design for the game, as opposed to your reason being to maintain balance between class and item pickrates.

Saying "nerfing it into the ground would make it not necessary to equip" is not a fallacy, by the way. That's just a literal fact.

radiant moat
# meager adder IP based sbmmr. no more smurf accounts chasing off new players mac address / har...

embark knew they could restrict silvers playing with diamonds

they didnt do it

embark knows they can hardware/ip ban cheaters who rot their game

they MIGHT temporarily ban their accounts if their 3rd-party proprietary anti-cheat detects them

embark knows there is a specific meta that when mastered will steamroll others, whilst every other class/gun/gadget combo cannot reach the same effectiveness

they haven't done anything meaningful for a whole season

also, embark doesn't read this chat, it gets fed into a summarizing ai and god knows what comes out the other end and how that's interpreted

uninstall the game and look for others

keen lily
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This games community is so fucking dumb. For example teammates> complaining about the damage you do in game while they are ALL THE FUCKING TIME dead and you can't really shoot as you try to defib them all game

rough storm
raw blaze
upper citrus
# wide void <@546889700183375872> You're both arguing extremism and ignoring the very real m...

Your points just arent true. Anything can be nerfed to be useless or buffed to be OP. That doesn't mean there is a middleground where the concept can be balanced in the current state of the game. Take recon senses. You could nerf recon senses to be 5m distance and last 1 second. It would be terrible. You could also buff it to be map wide and last 1 minute. That doesn't mean the concept of recon senses could have ever been balanced correctly unless the game was more designed around it.

Of course, recon senses was removed because even if we ever got to a point where the game was changed so much that it was somehow balanced, it wouldn't lead to fun gameplay. Thankfully this isn't really the case with defib (as seen from 2.6 - 3.0.) Defib being a must pick doesn't mean its overpowered, its literally only because its one of the only places you can get that type of support from, and medium also doesn't have many gadgets to choose from to begin with. Jump pad is another great example of this. Jump pad is inarguably a must pick gadget. Is it op? No. Some sort of team movement will always be necessary in the current state of the game. Nerfing it doesn't make any sense.

There is no middleground where defib is balanced in the current state of the game. The fact you can nerf it into obscurity doesn't mean there is. You can nerf literally anything into obscurity regardless of how conceptually broken it is. There needs to be more development in that section of gadgets. That's literally the only way to make defib healthy.

@rough storm 3x defib was never meta until people found out how broken model is, which is a weapon that negates all the weaknesses of defib and especially triple defib. 3x defib without model isn't a strong team comp at all.

red echo
patent wind
wind gulch
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careful with the data from that latest survey, pretty big blind spots in those questions.

also, re: "There is no middleground where defib is balanced in the current state of the game" -- Defib is easily balanced with a teamwide shared cooldown. One defib per fight no matter how many you bring, that's all it takes. Give it a shot for a week of world tour & watch the LMH era begin.

small mesa
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dreamy gale
long oxide
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free goo ship 😔

smoky sluice
meager adder
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IP based sbmmr.
no more smurf accounts chasing off new players
mac address / hardware ID if you must.
These ruby smurfs wanna play against 0 xp players but they will kill the entire game.
New players cannot have fun while these 900 hour per week players are mopping them.
This game may last another 3 months until the no life players ruin it.
They have enough skill to reach plat, but after that they plateau and want to fight people who have never played before. It's pathetic and ruins the game for everyone.

nova solar
wide void
# upper citrus Your points just arent true. Anything can be nerfed to be useless or buffed to b...

@patent wind

There are 5 issues with your logic.

  1. You claim there are some concepts/abilities that are inherently OP and can never be balanced. Outside of truly ridiculous ideas that can hardly be controlled such as disconnecting players or map-wide nukes, this is simply not the case. So long as a concept/ability 1. has alternative options that provide unique utility to a degree that can potentially outperform it and 2. has counterplay by enemies, then said concept/ability can inherently be balanced. For example, is it really going to kill Defib outright if we simply increase the cooldown by 3s or make it take 0.1s longer?

  2. Despite your first claim above, you are contradicting yourselves by correctly claiming that these concepts that you believe are inherently OP (like Recon Senses) could, actually, be rebalanced to the point of not being OP. So which is it, are they inherently OP or not?

  3. You're ignoring pick rates on items. Listen, if you personally like Defib being a staple on M, that's fine, but don't pretend that means the M gadgets are balanced. A gadget having 100% pickrate simply means it's OP for M, even if M itself is weak/strong. Adding more options may help, yes, but until then, option diversity would be helped by nerfing Defib.

  4. You don't need every M to run Jump Pad. You need every M to run Defib. Again, try to separate M's power relative to other classes from Defib's power relative to other M gadgets.

  5. Triple M wasn't meta for a while indeed, but that doesn't mean running triple Defib whenever you would choose to run triple M wasn't meta. In other words, Defib has always maintained a 100% pickrate.

And @patent wind, using examples to build a point isn't fallacious. Try discrete math sometime.

upper citrus
# wide void <@971547784102686771> There are 5 issues with your logic. 1. You claim there ...

"You claim there are some concepts/abilities that are inherently OP and can never be balanced. Outside of truly ridiculous ideas that can hardly be controlled such as disconnecting players or map-wide nukes, this is simply not the case."

Wow i really wonder if having a single team healing gadget in the entire game and trying to balance it to not be a must pick in a team based shooter falls under this definition

Why wouldn't I make those nerfs to defib? Why would I? What problem do they fix? All that does is increase the reward for solo pushing and nerf the total support output of medium. Which is a bad thing in the current state of the game

vernal path
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Nerf blue team, they always win 👀

rough storm
# upper citrus Your points just arent true. Anything can be nerfed to be useless or buffed to b...

Yes bro I fullllllyyy stand behind your point of view, EXCEPT for one thing and here's my opinion including a counter argument:

Defib should def not be nerfed in itsself. (as it would underpower the medium role) It should even bring back ppl with 75% or might aswell go for full health or make it a full second or 2 invincibility after the rezz animation. BUT;
A team-wide shared cooldown should be set for it on 1 to 1,5 minute and here's why

  • A teamfight should not exist out of the possibility of having to kill 6 people. Not only does it lengthen teamfights giving it more chance for a third party to get involved but it also straight up isn't fair to have to kill that many people with only 3. There's no other game i've ever seen this in plus if you think logically it's just not fair.
    And as having mained light and heavy i can't tell you how many times i clutched 2 opponents just for that last guy to run around, defib and 2v1 eliminate me.
  • It makes luck more prominent in team fights as even with 3v3 mediums it's the one that can get that extra defib in first that turns it back to a 2v1 and that eventually wins.
  • MMM would still be a good meta as defib wouldn't lose its strength at all cuz your enemies have no option to focus the support and eliminate the one that can defib in that teamfight
  • Even if devs would finally get the point and nerf Model damage to where it should be 3 defibs would still be a meta cuz in comparisson to all other gadgets it's still completely overpowered. Furthermore saying buff other gadgets is a possibility but IMO there's nothing that could ever be as good as 3 possible INSTA REZZES in a 3v3 fight. So i don't understand why you're saying without the Model it would break the meta. Even with it having a shared team-wide CD it wouldn't break that meta cuz it's just that OP. And yes i saw the video about it but you can simply run around with the medium mobility to evade dmg cuz most of the game is cqb. There's more but limited chars
silent fog
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Fix these fucking awful spawns. Do you just not care anymore? Just make some skins for money?

polar grotto
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Buffs that should be incurred

Sword, primary swing 1 more damage (can kill lights in 2 swings)
Riot shield, shield should be better at blocking
Dual blades, more dmg, faster attacks, better deflect
Spear, more range, secondary attack should be cancellable when not holding down secondary (shouldn't have to do the glitch) should damage 360
Flamethrower, should have a VERY slight increase in spread (larger area of effect/larger radius)
M32, if it hits a player before it bounces it explodes otherwise explodes after 1 bounce
R .357, more accurate hip-firing
Dome shield, slightly more hp and having a effect that removes invis from enemys who enter
Explosive mine, either more damage or change the count back to 2
Frag grenade, more arena damage
Zipline, can be placed further away making longer ziplines or using secondary click can choose where it begins and ends

lone hazel
stuck junco
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Flamethrower shouldnt be buffed

maiden ember
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i really really hope they rethink their game and balance everything froim the scratch.
There are so many Gadgets that became worthless because there is a more versatile and better alternative (Hello C4).

It just feels like they keep balancing/nerfing stuff until its completly useless.

patent wind
teal bear
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Damn I just realized a global cool down for defibs is really exactly what is needed and would bring its power right in line. Should encourage bringing only 1 defib and medium to play a specific role in the team i.e. battle medic, team movement, minefield +turret fire base. Etc etc

wide void
# upper citrus "You claim there are some concepts/abilities that are inherently OP and can neve...

I do not follow your point, friend. Are you saying that healing or defibbing are inherently OP? Because they aren't. They're controllable. For healing, you can reduce the healrate, and enemies counterplay either by dishing out more damage or taking the opportunity to heal for themselves. For defibbing, you can control how frequent/powerful the revives are, and enemies can punish poorly positioned revives.

Why would you nerf Defib? To 1. make it stop having 100% pickrate and let other M builds shine, and 2. to make M's overall value fall a little bit and let L or H shine in their place. Why do you think it was ever nerfed to begin with?

Why do you act as if nerfing the total support output of M is an inherently bad thing? The "current state of the game" is that 1 M is mandatory to even be viable and 2 or 3 of them are meta. Obviously, either M needs nerf, or L and to a smaller extent H need buffs. But given one particular gadget has a 100% pickrate on M, nerfing it would be a surefire way to help M to be more in line with the other two classes. (Along with nerfing Model, of course.) This is a lot cleaner and simpler a rebalance than buffing up many other M options to Defib's level and then also buffing L and H.

The "current state of the game" is not solo pushing. It seems like you are afraid that nerfing Defib would make solo pushing a bigger issue, but it's already not an issue.

@rough storm You are agreeing with the guy who says Defib shouldn't be nerfed at all, and then you're proposing nerfs anyway lol. Come on, man.

@patent wind If YOU could read, you'd see I literally suggested glitch cancelling the revive just like you did. And if YOU could read, you'd realize that is a nerf to Defib. And if YOU could read, you'd see Trent is arguing Model needs a nerf INSTEAD of nerfing Defib. My position is both need nerfs.

sleek flame
cold bolt
vale acorn
surreal meadow
rough storm
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@wide void Yes, i'm agreeing with the fact defib should not be nerfed in itsself like he is saying.
If i'm right you're insinuating that i'm contradicting myself but i think you mixed my proposal to nerf the tripple defib META by putting a team-shared CD on it with nerfing the defib gadget substantively, which shouldn't happen. It should even be buffed slightly to 75% health imo but only if the team-wide CD would be implemented to keep it in bound.

Also:

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upper citrus
# rough storm Yes bro I fullllllyyy stand behind your point of view, EXCEPT for one thing and ...

no, triple stacking a class should lead to a team that is incredibly strong at what the class is meant to be good at (team support and sustain for medium.) and incredibly weak at what the class is meant to be weak at (cqc damage output for medium)

again, back when people didnt realize the model was op, 3x medium was on the same level as every other triple stack and was balanced. the only issue with 3x medium is model and adding a weird shared cooldown that only applies to defib is just inconsistent and wont fix the issue and also fucks over double medium comps when they're completely fine. There is no reason to add this

lean tree
# upper citrus no, triple stacking a class should lead to a team that is incredibly strong at w...

It was not on the same level, triple stack medium was not such a problem BECAUSE there was enough ways to counter it, but in todays Finals, the only way to counter triple Medium Model meta is by playing it yourself, any other triple stack is USELESS against Triple M and sure as hell in the final round.

If they change the triple defib meta, the game gets way more strategic more tactical, the most supportive class with the strongest weapons and the best gadgets to keep the team alive is just crazy. If you need like 3/4 revives to get a team wipe you don't even deserve the wipe tbh.

mortal notch
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losing rs if a teammate leaves is so braindead. same with not being able to leave yourself. i love wasting 8+ mins of my time every other game. i came back in the last couple week to grind em and dia and im reminded every game why i uninstalled. also nerf model

lone hazel
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An official esports scene would be great for the finals. I never watch esports but I was watching a tournament from the pro hubs discord earlier and it looks like a really good game for esports. From what I saw, there are players with the skills needed that practise regulary so there isnt really anything stopping embark.

safe relic
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Delete light class. Buff the Model. Buff the revolver. Buff the akimbo .50.

vale acorn
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Just implement modes from Battlefield Hardline in the game, specifically Hotwire and Conquest.

burnt crane
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Dagger feels less intuitive than it could be. People are having to rely on the player's index finger raising because the auditory and visual queues don't do proper service to the people using the weapon causing people like myself to charge and release too early in the heat of the moment. The shimmer for the tip of the arrow is in the game already, so why not apply this to the dagger to show when the alt fire is ready? This would make the weapon more intuitive and likely more satisfying (No pun intended)

upper citrus
wide void
# upper citrus yes, the defib's counterplay is close range engagements. thats why defib has onl...

Sorry man, but like I said, if you're interested in keeping pickrates among gadgets fair, then Defib with its 100% pickrate needs some kind of nerf, too.

You gotta consider why it was ever nerfed in the first place. It wasn't even because triple M was strong, because AFAIK, triple M wasn't even common during Defib's hayday. It just had too little counterplay and was too valuable to ever give up over other gadgets.

Making it so you can at least glitch the holograms to delete them would be a huge boon to Light, curb both M and Defib's excessive pickrates, and further incentivize using Defib defensively instead of offensively.

latent charm
dreamy gale
# latent charm And what I'm saying is that you want to turn The Finals into COD by suggesting t...

suggestions can be made for alot of things that doesn't mean that if they added omni mouvement the finals will be like cod they can tweak the movement to be even better by allowing sprinting in every direction no slide cancel or diving people suggest all sort of dumb stuff like remove this and remove that buff this nerf that you get my point they are all suggestions but the devs check the serious one and see if that suggestion is truly something worth considering

blissful hull
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They need to remove the 6th vault from spawning. All it does it cause you and your team to spawn 150+m away from the last cash box. Most of the time giving you no chance of a comeback just because your unable to run that far in time.

rough storm
burnt crane
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Someone being defibbed needs to be able to be shot during the revive animation. Defib should not be this, "we're in the middle of a fight! Get back in instantaneously without any counterplay once I kamikaze defib you!". The issue is that once someone is already reforming, there's nothing you can do about it.

New Defib Concept:

  • You can shoot people as they're reforming
  • Glitch Grenades and Barrels will stop the reforming process
  • Charge rate increased to last the span of a cashout (This should make it so that you only get one defib use per cashout engagement
upper citrus
gilded dagger
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If they want to make the game casual friendly they need to reduce the ridiculously long respawn time and speed up health regen.

Seriously less than average players will spend more time hiding or waiting to respawn than actually playing the game.

This will also have the effect of nerfing defibs and health beam

quick coyote
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cant even find a ranked game on ASIA servers... im OCE
so dead

quick coyote
meager adder
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IP based sbmmr.
no more smurf accounts chasing off new players
mac address / hardware ID if you must.
These ruby smurfs wanna play against 0 xp players but they will kill the entire game.
New players cannot have fun while these 900 hour per week players are mopping them.
This game may last another 3 months until the no life players ruin it.
They have enough skill to reach plat, but after that they plateau and want to fight people who have never played before. It's pathetic and ruins the game for everyone.

olive vector
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Put....SQUARE...Bases...On...The...Statues!!! Then they don't roll!!! Super simple fix to a very veey annoying problem!! 👍👍👍

mortal notch
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the solo que experience is aids. you cant leave if your teammates leave. if you do you get suspended. you basicly just have to afk with a macro so you dont get kicked. ranked solo que is just a timewaste every other game u get someone leaving and it wastes 8+ mins of time (same goes for wt getting 5 points every other game becuse randoms cant revive or leave isnt fun)

simple quiver
timber falcon
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Charge and slam is so bs i can be winning with the riot shield and all they have to do I'd press a single button and do an insane amount of damage it's so damn strong all tye heaves use it I'm tired of it

soft tusk
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there should be boxes that you pay for that can give you any cosmetic so people can gamble and the game would make more money

granite vector
cold bolt
static wolf
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after being griefed final round by teams spawning 5 meters from a cashout 90% done twice im quitting the finals. going back to r6 where the server tick rate is higher that oscars iq.

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smoky sluice
mortal notch
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i love wasting 8+ mins of my time every single game becuse randoms leave and i cant leave. (i uninstalled came back for the last couple weeks to grind em and dia and both modes are a crazy timewaste solo que not making any progress for 3+ hrs on wt becuse randoms leave and i cant is so fun)

wide ivy
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Hey if you guys could do something about the blatant hackers that'd be grand. Easy anticheat? More like easiest to bypass.

paper shadow
#

Hey game developers I was wondering if you host any tournaments like for real money?

dry kiln
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The pIke-556 is worthless after the nerf that it was given.

brittle obsidian
subtle gazelle
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Can we have specialization and class limits im tired of triple mediums and double healing. Honestly the turret needs a fucking nerf it locks on too quickly and is too accurate. The charge and slam is just free damage for a losing heavy, and fix the hit reg or get rid of the visual recoil.

vernal path
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Let us jump in to practice with our squad 💌

half pawn
tired bear
stuck sentinel
nocturne shell
#

what do people mean when they say steal and plug

sleek flame
#

Please do something about the cheating, this is absolutely irritating

elder folio
narrow osprey
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Interrupt 10 decryptions or steals is a NIGHTMARE in solo que.

drifting thistle
#

apparently embark only temporary ban cheater.

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feral kettle
#

Seeing a lot of stuff on the web about the mouse going offscreen? Anyone have any solutions? I've tried only using fullscreen but that doesn't work. Makes it unplayable 😦 It only seems to happen when I click my left or right mouse button

wide void
cosmic ether
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give heavy riot shield

subtle gazelle
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It changes ttk in a gun fight and most arent that avoidable since people put them in corners looking into the rest of the room, like yeah placed in an open field it does nothing but when most cashouts are in a room or can be moved in a room those turrets just act like extra players @jovial mulch

deep sierra
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Buff fcar damage

solid mica
#

PLEASE IMPLEMENT A MMR ROLLBACK SYSTEM I HAVE PLAYED 5 CHEATERS WITHIN THE PAST 2 DAYS

upper citrus
tired bear
surreal meadow
lost talon
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pyro nade direct hit should do more damage

cold bolt
dry kiln
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Pike566 rate of fire needs to be up scaled

tame crag
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Things I hope get rebalanced in Season 5

Charge and Slam

  • Initial damage is too strong, it should start with low damage, 30/50 then ramp up by the end to 130.
    Thermal Vision
  • Thermal could do well with a bit more of ‘The Finals pizazz’ I think it should keep vision mostly the same, maybe a little darker than normal, and highlight different objects in different neon colors.
    Model shotgun
  • This shotgun is way too strong at the moment, it’s time to kill against lights and mediums leaves no way to recover against it unless you use a model shotgun and get lucky — the argument that it’s your fault for letting a shotgun get close is irrelevant in a mostly close quarters game like the Finals
    FCAR
  • I’ve ran into nearly no one using this gun this season, and if I have it’s indistinguishable from the AK, it needs some differentiation.
    Defibrillators
  • Defibs are such a strong gadget that if you don’t take them it is essentially “throwing” and I think that requires a change. Increase the time to revive after getting hit by a defib and put a cooldown on defibs for 5-15 seconds after getting revived (in any form)
    Proximity Sensor
  • The range on these is massive and I think should be reduced, it’s not particularly oppressive but can be extremely difficult to avoid
    Goo Gun
  • Give the goo gun an ADS mode and have it fire with more force to allow more precision
    Winch Claw
  • Winch claw needs a windup so that you can potentially avoid it, against the SA1214 or Sledgehammer the winch claw is an unavoidable death sentence — once again staying outside of range is not a reasonable way to play against a mechanic like this
lilac plank
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the game is really fun

somber spruce
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The Goo Gun for heavy Is very underutilized and I really think this weapon could be more effective if it gotten a rework in a way that could make it more powerful in defense. THIS IS ALSO A ROUGH SKETCH IDEA. So take it with a grain of salt.

Goo Gun Rework

When using shooting the Goo Gun, the goo will have a shade of color to them representing your team or an enemy teams color depending on who shot it.
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With this in mind, the goo that is shot from a Goo Gun will have 10% - 15% more health for more stability in defending.
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When shooting at a player with movement, via Charge & Slam, Evasive Dash, Grapple Hook, etc. It will not stop the specializations ability, but instead slows them down drastically.

Nerfs and Buffs

+ When the goo is shot from the Goo Gun it will have a shade of color to it representing the team who shot it, making it easier to tell who its from and knowing that the goo will have more health.
+ When shooting goo at a player with movement specialization like Evasive Dash, Grapple Hook, and Charge & Slam, it will slow them down drastically.
+ Increase in goo health from 300 to 345 (15% increase) 
+ Increase in burn time from 12s to 16s (35% Increase)
+ Increase in lasting duration of 90s to 115s (27.5% Increase)

- When shooting goo at a player with movement specialization like Evasive Dash, Grapple Hook, and Charge & Slam, it will not stop the animation and it's effects.
- Decrease in length size when connected from 15 to 12 (20% Decrease)
- Magazine size from 20 to 15 (25% Decrease)
- Increase in reload time from 2s to 2.75s (37.5% Increase)
- Decrease in firing rate from 0.3s to 0.6s (100% Decrease)
- Decrease in bullet speed by 20%
sleek flame
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SH1900 is not a problem, not a problem. #shotguns

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deep sierra
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Fcar needs its season 1 damage and round count to compete with all the other fast ttk weapons the only thing they should keep from its current nerf is the recoil pattern.

valid canyon
uneven dagger
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buff fcar damage

smoky sluice
raw blaze
#

We need some more goofy events

frank holly
#

buff fcar damage

fleet socket
quiet frost
#

5th gadget slot perhaps?

worn sigil
upper citrus
stoic lion
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Just here to say the RANKED system is absolutely, without a doubt, FUCKING GARBAGE. How tf did embark make it THIS BAD? THIS IS HILARIOUS. YOU HAVE TO TRY AND MAKE IT THIS BAD.

main agate
#

Am I wrong or is the xp required for the season pass once again higher? I've played for about the same amount of time as I did in the past, but the last two pages have been moving like a turtle

small mesa
#

hello

deep sierra
#

Buff fcar damage

unborn garnet
#

When are yall getting new servers?

smoky sluice
tribal spoke
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Please buff the dual blades. I suggest removing the 50/50,60/60,70 combo and replacing it with flat 55/55 damage slashes, it fixes the light and heavy breakpoints without touching medium ttk (Which is fine though struggles with Model). And or improve the swing speed by 5-15% to decrease the ttk. Having to have to cancel or miss the first swing on a light is annoying at best and pretty impractical to get a reasonable ttk against one of the most mobile classes in the game

raw blaze
lost talon
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how about turning the stun zap into a button that the light can hold indefinitely but if he pulls the gun out it turns off

upper citrus
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“Nerf m11” LOL

This is arguably the best balanced weapon in the game alongside the m26 matter. Strong upsides and downsides without being too oppressive or useless in any given scenario.

This weapon is ONLY strong when you are within 10m from an enemy on the class with the lowest HP in the game. This weapon does NOT need a nerf. Mf YOU need a buff. Get good

frank holly
cursive oxide
#

5v5 Coin Confirmed would be Fire .. 🪙🔥

ebon kernel
stone hazel
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im so sick of dying fully behind walls your netcode is way too generous to people with high ping
i was behind the wall
i played well
i did my part
and i still die for it
also triple medium heal beam defib is ass why am i fighting two or three teams worth of people unless i guest kill all three of them within the same couple second window
defib has WAY too much value for how easy it is to get off

unborn garnet
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Yall need to update your servers soon. I've had nothing but terrible connection issues all of s4. What the hell happened between s3 and s4?

brittle obsidian
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the model's damage rivals a fair share of light weapons... while being on the defacto support class with 100 more hp to work with. theres literally no reason to play light when medium has model

upper citrus
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Because medium is fully balanced around being weaker than light and heavy in cqc (hence why defib has only been complained about since model meta became mainstream)

Light and heavy both have to take gadgets and specs for survivability in cqc engagements. Medium can go in with a full support build and a model and be just as powerful in cqc as the classes that fully built for it because medium has stats that make it high risk in cqc like light and heavy do. The model would actually be perfectly fine on light or heavy and genuinely interesting.

patent wind
raw blaze
oak kernel
brazen heath
barren silo
#

Is it a known bug to not be able to send friend requests?

smoky sluice
pulsar crystal