#👂┇game-feedback

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thorny lynx
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when you get to 1200 pts it will reset correctly. I had the glitch, many others have too.... it is all good

finite galleon
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Ok so if a spec makes a melee weapon that is destined to be dogshit turn into free kills machine it's still fine? Every competent heavy plays SA12 Winch, KS is a good weapon but Winch single handedly makes it 10 times better, not as good as SA12 but still really good, just because winch exists and provides simply way too much.

Nearly every single heavy runs Winch for a reason, why you don't see it much is perhaps because medium is just dominant with pike that outranges practically every weapon in the game by a lot yet still shreds insanely well in close range

"Keep distance" is an awful argument cuz more than half the game is played in close quarter combat for objectives, steals, plugs etc... which is more than enough for winch. If this argument was as easy as it seems, model wouldn't be an issue; just stand 30 meters away.

Sorry to break it to you man, winch is overpowered so is charge n slam and both need to be heavily nerfed.

upper citrus
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  1. pike doesnt outdamage model

  2. model is a meta pick over pike by good players

dark niche
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bring back ps5 / xbox crossplay match making, we dont want pc lobbys and we r tired not finding a ranked match cuz of it.

versed cloud
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Fix the winch hitbox, it pulls people from farther than it's supposed to and at times through solid walls. It looks visably jenky and low quality.

quick coyote
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The issue with the average gamer today is that they are a CONFORMIST, and also someone who seems afraid to engage in debate. Almost ten years ago, the whole world became “politically correct,” and now it seems we have to say that everything is great, that nothing is wrong, that we should be positive, and all that nonsense. But I’m old school and believe that when something is good, we should positively critique it, and The Finals is one of the most fun shooters ever created, due to its mechanics, mobility, and its main game mode (CashOut). And when something is bad, we should negatively critique it, and The Finals is one of the worst-balanced video games in history, with more bugs than any other game (practically every week something breaks with each update...). This has killed the game since literally the first month of play. When almost all players left for other games, tired of being one-shotted by an absurd and ridiculous nuker that wiped teams with the push of a button... this is what happens when instead of removing this mechanic the next day (and you can add it back in the future if you manage to implement it correctly), it takes THREE MONTHS to get rid of it. And this happens with absolutely EVERYTHING in The Finals... You wait an entire week thinking there will be changes because it’s too obvious that the balancing is ridiculous, only to find that CL-40 spends TWO WEEKS doing 117 damage per hit... when it’s just a matter of modifying a variable... a number in the code... just to sell the new yellow skin.

And did you read this week's patch notes? Another 7 days have passed and they literally haven’t changed ANYTHING AT ALL... I mean, almost nothing is balanced in the game, but for Embark, everything is perfect...

odd plover
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Regarding TTK, it is actually more difficult to balance because there are three body types in total.
If you want to use any weapon to beat the fat man and the thin man in seconds, the short man's game experience will be reset.
Because the dwarf only has 150 HP, all damage is huge in front of 150 HP.
But if the dwarf is not defeated, then everyone’s gaming experience will be wiped out.
Because this will turn the game into a game of who has more health and who has more damage.
So I think it’s better to shorten the resurrection time and call back all the weakened weapons, so that everyone can have fun playing
Instead, start the game → match with a garbage teammate→ opponent uses a T0 weapon → sweat → dies→ wait 18~30 seconds → dies → loses the game

fair osprey
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nerf sword lol

cobalt loom
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Can console get there own lobby with controller players? Like there are enough pc players to play full pc lobbies and there are enough Xbox and PlayStation players for them to have there own server I’m tired of playing constant light sword players who spam that movement glitch there is def a skill gap between console and pc when it comes to shooting games and movement giving us a PlayStation only queue isn’t gonna help cause it will take years to find a game so we are forced to have cross play on

broken wharf
uneven dagger
rugged temple
viral stump
# quick coyote The issue with the average gamer today is that they are a CONFORMIST, and also s...

It's because they use data driven decisions rather than just listening to what people are saying. This can work well if they understand fundamentally what they are going for with play style but due to lack of communication on that front there is a disconnect between what players think the game should be like and what the devs think. This in turn creates situations where things aren't fixed for a loooong time that really should be fixed that week (nukes took way to long to be removed). Now we are in the situation where everyone is scrambling to find ideas for "balancing" but there is so little idea for what the game is trying to go for that we end up with this cluster fuck of rambling ideas that aren't really based around a Solid Foundation. Once classes are actually given identity , then we will see things smooth out but until then its gonna be a rough ride.

worn horizon
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put domeshield back to like 8-10 seconds, 11 to 5 seconds was a crazy nerf and none really complained about domeshield that much, its hardcountered by glitch and you can even shoot it from below

violet elbow
arctic tartan
quartz cedar
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GIVE US A SEPARATE KEYBIND FOR VAULT. AUTO VAULT IS A TERRIBLE MECHANIC. thanks

foggy ginkgo
# upper citrus 1. pike doesnt outdamage model 2. model is a meta pick over pike by good player...

Taking into account headshots the pike shreds the model just seems op because everything else has been nerfed to oblivion the model has been consistently the same since earlier seasons nobody cried as much as now. And the reason for that is everything being nerfed to oblivion. Please stop calling for nerfs every 3.5 seconds thats exactly why we’re in this predicament is because everyone decides to cry nerf, when in reality things needed to be brought to the same lvl.

quartz shell
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Progress in world tour is a nightmare if you want to solo queue

lean tree
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Nerf the damn model please

versed cloud
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Embark. Please break up the medium monopoly. Or change the name of the game to the mediums. I will accept either

woven hawk
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Super slimejump specialization đŸȘ‚ suggestion

3 parts like dash. 1=High Jump 2=Float/Glide 3=Fast Fall.

I love flying yayspin

upper citrus
# foggy ginkgo Taking into account headshots the pike shreds the model just seems op because ev...

Not really imo. This game thrives on a healthy meta where teamplay is required. The weapons on season 1 release were so strong that teamplay wasn’t really required at all, you could just play like it’s cod, extremely unhealthy for a team focused game.

Now that everything has been brought down, teamplay is much more prevalent and instant kills are much less common.

Model meta also isn’t the result of “everything else being nerfed into oblivion.” The model has been the best gun on medium since the fcar was nerfed. It was the 2nd best gun on the class since launch and has been meta for almost half a year now. It breaks the fundamental weakness of medium and needs to be nerfed. Its stats aren’t just overtuned, they’re poorly designed.

obsidian ginkgo
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when we got model 1887 and light sword nerf ? it's unplayable shit. EMBARK please check games, do smth, currently ranked state is awful, new spawn system solve nothin, team spawns right infront of you and if you coverin cashout and 3rd team wiped u spawned on another point.

shell quartz
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I agree with Koyl

thorn kelp
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Glitch grenades and glitch barrels should disable defib revives happy_friend

tropic root
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Medium can keep their strong gadgets and their strong weapons. But they should simply buff all of lights primary weapons to be the same level of effectiveness as the M11.

Also sword is fine and all the melee weapons should also have the same effectiveness as the sword.

raven hornet
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Can we PLEASE limit the amount of turrets in a damn casual match, I’m not trying to play no ring around the Rosie with everyone’s turret
Edit: Also what’s with these invisible walls that completely break my matches and make me DC from matches cause of how frustrating it is

quartz shell
glacial knot
turbid mortar
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Why is the relic roamer top a single item instead of an upper body piece and a crossbody piece?

foggy ginkgo
# upper citrus Not really imo. This game thrives on a healthy meta where teamplay is required. ...

Not true at all but continue to cry and be the downfall of a game ig. Next helldivers in the making. @lean tree @obsidian ginkgo @shell quartz. you’re all apart of the problem. Nerf isnt the answer for everything. We’d have peashooter’s as guns if we listened to yall.

Edit: @unique wasp im not saying never nerf theres been guns that needed nerfs sure but the model isnt one of them. The only reason the model feels as strong is because of the nerfs to other weapons it’s that simple.

unique wasp
# foggy ginkgo Not true at all but continue to cry and be the downfall of a game ig. Next helld...

PLEASE do not bring the hysterical "never nerf!!!" community into the pvp space they're already unbearable in pve communities

@foggy ginkgo for the record i think it's true that the general power level of the game has gone down over time and I do miss sometimes how insanely explosive and juiced the game used to be at launch, but I'm not going to pretend that nuke, old stun gun, full health instant defib, light removal device RPG, recon sense, FCAR, etc were all that healthy. You're right that the 1887 is strong now largely because medium's other guns+Heavy are weaker, but at the same time it's true that Medium is currently overperforming and a lot of that is because they get to cover long and close range with what are now some of the strongest weapons in the game while still holding massive support utility. What would you suggest?

bronze torrent
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Can plug money be reverted back to S2, it’s horrible to play against teams that plug and run to another cashout/vault because they’re rewarded with 1/3 of the money on insert.

rustic sandal
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Mentioning again as don't see it too much, but the spawns this season are absolutely awful. Why when wiping a team do they spawn ahead of you on the cashout negating any advantage from the wipe.... Not just the winning team get screwed as may be specific to Seoul but my team got spawn trapped 3x in a row by spawning the back of hospital with the enemy team LITERALLY STARING AT US FROM THE ROOFTOP. we didn't even get a chance to move. I think the change has moved in a more positive direction as their data showed but at the moment is worse than season 1 spawns.

upper citrus
plucky raptor
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2 games in a row in ranked with only one team mate, there needs to be a contingency so my rank dosnt get bombed

brittle obsidian
spice stag
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would love for coin spawns to be addressed ever, they got completely fucked in s3. getting respawned 100 meters away from my own cashout when i coin is just a little bit stupid

woven hawk
mint portal
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coin

jagged cedar
restive scaffold
quick coyote
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Can we talk about how 2nd place don't mean anything because 3rd place always places the box in and passes, and there nothing you can do cause the entire lobby is fighting for the last cash box it's happening way to much lately

warm bluff
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embark pls fix

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timber bridge
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Fix the fact of ps5 that walls/ceilings are broken for pc players yet ps5 the wall is still there n bugging its so annoying

silk shadow
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nerf support

foggy ginkgo
# upper citrus you didnt really provide any reasoning or arguments but sure. no one ever said n...

@brittle obsidian Literally and its not even overturned other weapons are just undertuned. Say they nerf it we’ll literally just be left with the lights shotgun with worse rate of fire. Straight poop. Think before you just scream nerf @upper citrus 😭. Buff some weapons instead of nerf everything and we wouldn’t be in this situationđŸ˜‚đŸ‘ŒđŸŸ. How many weapons are just not being used because of how dogshit they are. Thats your problem right there, not nerfing the model bud. And @unique wasp i agree some things were overturned in earlier seasons. Honestly some nerfs just need reverted and itd be just fine. Itd give the weapons actual identity and give players a reason to use other weapons. The m11 and xp were some of the best weapons to me due to identity alone. If you want to fight close range, use the M11. If you wanted to fight more mid-close range you could use the xp they were both viable choices. And you chose depending on what you were trying to achieve. Now i feel like everything has been nerfed so much that there are OBVIOUS better choices and if you don’t pick em might as well say fuckkk all.

jovial osprey
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gold/plat/diamond/ruby weapon skin rewards from leagues should be changed to a cosmetic token that you can apply to one gun of your choice each season...feels kind of lame to light main your way to ruby for the season only to be rewarded with a ruby lewis gun...would be nice to apply the cosmetic token to your gun of choice so you can represent

tawny oak
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fix the melee in the game, why is it on my end i am so far away but people swing hammers and swords who are not close to me but deal damage to me, but when i have to use the melee weapons i need to be hitting them directly. FIX THE FREAKING SERVERS!

brittle obsidian
upper citrus
glacial knot
timber hull
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I swear if they don't fix these glitches that prevent you from picking your loadout if you join late im going to crash out

unique wasp
# foggy ginkgo <@270654275321987074> Literally and its not even overturned other weapons are ju...

I honestly think there's a bit more argument to use various weapons than there used to be. There was a time when the 1887 was seen as fine but very situational due to the overwhelming use cases of something like the FCAR, same with the MP5 for most of light's weapons for awhile and to a lesser but still considerable extent the Lewis for Heavy. I would like to see more small buffs or reworks for a lot of the weapons that have fallen out of favor, but those could come hand in hand with 1887 adjustments of some kind.

carmine token
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The problem with the buff/nerf dichotomy is that it never feels good to have things taken away from you for no gain. It's like taxes - you can tell me they're going to good things but I'm still gonna hate paying taxes.
There's things that need to be nerfed, sure, but considering Mediums (and especially Heavies) have had half of their entire arsenal nerfed multiple times over since Beta, and entire playstyles wholely destroyed because of it, it sucks to lose more.
I got nothing from Season 4 but nerfs. Beam nerf (again), Mine nerf, AK nerf. All they needed to do was give me a slight buff to Dual Swords to make me happy but nope, they refuse to even do that. The last buff I got was the fire spread changes to the fucking goo grenade.
Same for Heavies - nerf the Mesh, nerf RPGs, on top of a string of nerfs that came before already.

All you have to do is balance it out - either rework the tool instead of blanket nerfing it, or give that class some improvements elsewhere. Maybe the balancing is "fair", I don't really know but I know it's not fun to open the patch notes every two weeks and see "ohh sweet another fucking nerf to my loadout, time to suck more" and have people still demand blanket nerfs for my whole class because a weapon I don't use is too good.

raw blaze
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allow us to change it so we can change our sensitivity per optic. The Famas feels too slow for me but the AKM feels fine so I have to do a work around of disabling my focal sens modifier, and decrese the ADS sens, to make it feel right

azure ermine
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every update fucks the game even more than before

midnight aurora
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m11 seriously needs a nerf. you dont even have to aim it to delete people

nocturne shore
deep mantle
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Ok so genuinely I think the balance of the game has been pretty decent and frequent and I've been very happy with it. But can we finally just admit that the defib is a broken mechanic and ruins the game completely. Medium will never be balanced until it's gone, or completely reworked. It's been broken since the beginning of the game, and has been the largest frustration in the game since the beginning. (That and heal beam, which also probably needs more nerfing but that's beside the point) you know it, we all know it deep down, it has to go.

foggy ginkgo
# upper citrus F-tier bait tbh

Atp I’ll just chalk it up to skill issue. Model isnt op your just poop. Stop crying nerf and just get better my friend. All these nerfs is why the game in the state its in. Not saying some weren’t deserved but listening to people like you, all the guns will shoot nerf darts at some point😭. @unique wasp most people are complaining about the dmg if the damage gets touched there would be almost no reason to use it. Itd be a slow light shotgun. And the light shotgun albeit fun has one of the worst ttks. Which would make the model even worse.

unreal fossil
sudden tangle
upper citrus
# foggy ginkgo Atp I’ll just chalk it up to skill issue. Model isnt op your just poop. Stop cry...

It’s almost like burst damage weapons should kill slower because they’re inherently more valuable. But no the model kills faster than the rifles (it’s poorly designed.) The light shotgun m26 matter has longer ttk than the smgs and is a better weapon than both of them in the meta. It’s almost like burst damage weapons should kill slower


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I’m top 200 so I wouldn’t really call it a skill issue. I’m not sure what rank you are but it doesn’t really matter. It’s well known that more casual players call the model balanced because they either can’t use it or aren’t placed in lobbies with people who can use it well.

Also “why the game is in the state it’s in” lol? It’s closer to being balanced now than ever before. There’s genuinely like 7 more problematic items and that’s it, then things can be buffed

worn horizon
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fix the chat system, why cant i chat with my teammates at the end of the game? they always say something i want to reply to but i cant type. and make console players being able to see/write chat

next wharf
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is there ever gonna be a halloween event o we just not getting one

cinder grove
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Hey guys, I have a Lenovo Idea pad computer. And I just installed The Finals for free on steam. It keeps saying some graphics card or Driver problems popup, and the it opens. All I see is a black screen and it crashes every single time. How do I play The Finals?

daring ravine
jagged cedar
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Allow the hiding of your rank and name until the game is over. Being target griefed for being the highest ranked team in the lobby is not competitive and makes the ranked experience unbearable

tawny oriole
acoustic dune
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what if there are passive specializations, something thats active all time and would benefit a little bit to the player or teammates

foggy ginkgo
# upper citrus It’s almost like burst damage weapons should kill slower because they’re inheren...

The fact that you said the M26 matter is better over the m11 in the meta i cant even listen to ur opinion anymore no cap its invalidated😭. And that’s another thing catering to casuals who suffer from obvious skill issue has also taken this game downhill. And @daring ravine and why is the model meta
..BECAUSE ALL THE OTHER WEAPONS ARE POOP not because it’s “op”. @upper citrus when did i ever say they were bad guns 😂😭. They’re okay and never said akm was bad but when it comes to the m26 there is 100% better options. Thats the point. You sound a bit slow😭 and im not saying buff every weapon to the epitome cmon now😂 some weapons need buffs that’s just what it is. The nerfs have already started to kill the game bud, your 2 seasons behind. The game is infected with people crying nerf anytime i come here thats all i see every season people cry nerf

upper citrus
# foggy ginkgo The fact that you said the M26 matter is better over the m11 in the meta i cant ...

If you think weapons like AKM and m26 are bad then you’re bad, no offense.

Matter is also a very strong teamplay weapon. It also won the most recent community competitive tournament for this game. Post your rank?

Can people stop infecting this game with the “buffs > nerfs” mentality that is extremely well known for destroying games exactly like this one? We already played when every weapon was buffed to the stars and it was horrible. But it’s clear you’re not really a competitive player so I will stop wasting my time. Cya when the model gets nerfed

jagged vector
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Can we please get a hot patch for the glitch on console when the building is destroyed but it’s still showing as if it’s not? I’ve lost a couple games because I’m stuck on invisible rubble or fall through the ground going after a vault

pine kernel
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MAJOR ISSUE THIS BUG IS SO STUPID
I queued a world tour game last night, and after the running game intro it just had a black waiting for contestants to connect screen, THEN IT PUT ME IN A RANKED GAME!!???!?!??!
I have a clip if it could be helpful, first time ive ever heard of this happening tho

rustic sandal
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I honestly liked the op FCAR and recon sense meta more than this high burst dps meta we are in now... You would actually have time to manuver and outplay where now it feels like you need superhuman reaction and decision making to make plays/counterplays. I agree that high burst should have longer ttk overall and that would promote team shooting when using it with other weapons types. Yes do a lot of damage but you struggle when isolated or if you have bad positioning (you could maybe even buff things like dmg per shot/range/accuracy forgiveness to counterbalance the low ttk) - I may get flamed for this but actually think the revolver is a better example of a more balanced high burst weapon, requires high accuracy with high reward, get caught in the wrong range or miss your shots and your screwed.

undone swallow
glossy root
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Whoever made the AFK timer as short as it is needs to end themselves, I can’t even take a fucking piss without coming back 20 secs later and my buddies are complaining I got kicked

quick coyote
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State of the game is just disgusting

timid fox
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Let me pick up lights and throw them please, I want to yeet my teammates to victory

obsidian ginkgo
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when we got model 1887 and light sword nerf ? it's unplayable shit. EMBARK please check games, do smth, currently ranked state is awful, new spawn system solve nothin, team spawns right infront of you and if you coverin cashout and 3rd team wiped u spawned on another point.

latent stream
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Not getting less point deducted due to afks is crazy

versed vault
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when is pike/model getting an actual good nerf😭🙏

near snow
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make dash reset sword charge

foggy ginkgo
# upper citrus If you think weapons like AKM and m26 are bad then you’re bad, no offense. Mat...

coming from a light player i could give 2 flyingg fackss about the model ur are just đŸ’© and i definitely am a competitive player since day one of this game. Diamond every season besides last sir so try again budđŸ«Ą the fact u think the m26 matter is “meta” just tells me where ur at😭 the bottom of the barrel. And @undone swallow yeahh and if u think model is op ur just as shit skill issue đŸ’©. The model hasnt been complained about more than this season and guess what changed
.a shit ton of gun nerfs. Stfu and get better maybe you wouldn’t cry so much. Complete and utter babies. Your exactly why the games in the current state its inđŸ«Ą. Absurd

zealous schooner
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a quality of life update could be having a visual HUD indicator on the heal beams’ heat level, sort of the way the light invisibility counts up and down to show how long you have

side note: it could also show while its stored away and you use other items and/or your main gun just so we know when to use heals again

brittle obsidian
restive nest
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OMG v9s needs to be REMOVED lmao this thing is too good man i cant use it in good faith

upper citrus
jagged cedar
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Allow the hiding of your rank and name until the game is over. Being target griefed for being the highest ranked team in the lobby is not competitive and makes the ranked experience unbearable

foggy ginkgo
# upper citrus not even in top 10k

Wow you searched my secondary acct good job detective dumbass😂 you thought id use my actual name on discord ur more stupid than i thought bud. Edit: @upper citrus when is the last time i uploaded on that account dumbass please use your brain😭. I can tell that’s not your strong suit though đŸ«Ą. And all hail the death of a game cuz of trashcans like you.

trim cliff
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This game is just actual the most uncompetive unfun pile of shit Ive ever played this game makes me want to solo que LoL on 1 moniotor and R6 on the other would be a better experince. As a fun casual game it fine, but honestly just completly remove ranked this shit is a joke

night vortex
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penis measuring in video games is pretty rad.

feral shell
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im losing braincells reading this idiotic back and forth

round hornet
onyx crystal
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Nerf pike, model, revert xp, buff mesh

upper citrus
# foggy ginkgo Wow you searched my secondary acct good job detective dumbass😂 you thought id u...

Your secondary account name is also your YouTube channel? It’s okay to not be ranked dude nobody cares. Just don’t say “skill issue” to genuine complaints of bad game design if you don’t know what you’re talking about. It’s not really a big deal. Also, that account has multiple skins and battlepasses on it, as well as being the account you post on your channel. It’s not hard to tell that it’s your main. Again, nobody cares about your rank just don’t be lame 🙃

Am going to sleep now. Goodnight. Nerf model 👍

mortal notch
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Nerf pike, nerf model. nerf defib/fix triple med meta.
Buff xp, buff mesh.
Fix game preformance
The game is ethier unplayable due to horrible preformance/bad server performance or due to the meta just being mind numbingly boring due to pike/model triple med etc

pine kernel
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just queued into seoul and scotty called it fortune stadium, you think hes getting too old?

open elm
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Fix the enemy footsteps audio. Why am I not hearing a light literately breathing down on my back? This has been bugged since S2. Dealing with invisible lights is already painful. Now there truly invisible.

distant sluice
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I find it genuinely amazing that the devs managed to RUIN team spawning this bad. I don’t know a single person that enjoys it. When I am on the good side of it where I literally spawn on someone’s cash out and get the greatest third party of all time, it doesn’t feel good. It feels scummy. To be on the bad side of team spawning is even worse. Every game I play, if I don’t win a fight in less than 30 seconds, I am GUARANTEED, to have another team spawn right on top of me. I’m not talking about where I am 100m from a cash out with vault and they spawn near, I am saying I will be 20m away from putting the vault in, AND THEY WILL SPAWN CLOSER TO IT THAN ME. How does this make any sense.

I have attempted to try and thwart this by being on the cash out while my team walks over. This was to no avail. The team will spawned 20m behind us and with two jump pads they were immediately on top of us after having just won our first fight.

I do not understand how you made a whole post talking about how you’re trying to stop third partying and make the game more fair and reward effort and winning fights, then you release this. This is completely unplayable. I have near 800 hours in this game, and I have loved a majority of it. Even after the devs made mantling significantly slower. Even after the devs intentionally added the inability to pick up objects immediately after placing a jump pad. Even after the invisible walls (previously demat’d then destroyed). Even after the devs buffed the abusive hit reg on swords and daggers. I have still played this game because I love it. I loved this game for its movement, and you are starting to take that away. Yet I still play.

This new team spawning makes me want to stop playing. I am tired of putting in all the effort for a team THAT LOST THEIR FIGHT, to spawn right next to me and get handed all our progress. It’s not just once or twice a game. I just played a tournament where EVERY SINGLE FIGHT ended this way. FIX THIS.

molten trail
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add the goofy dance from mickey mouse club house

daring breach
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This chat is so mind numbingly filled with bad faith suggestions. If I was one of the devs I wouldn’t even open this to look for feedback. You guys are a bunch of braindead crybabies.

silk shadow
hearty marten
lyric turret
wooden atlas
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Day 2 of feeling sorry for the newbies I keep getting queued with. I’m level 65 and got teamed with someone who was literally playing his first match. Again, new players are healthy for the game
but new players getting matched against veterans is not

mortal notch
foggy ginkgo
ionic tusk
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Day 4 of asking for Mitch murder collab

onyx crystal
unborn crest
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Say it with me.
The game isn't made for Lights
The game isn't made for Lights
The game isn't made for Lights
The game isn't made for Lights
The game isn't made for Lights
The game isn't made for Lights

It would be faster to name the weapons that Can't one shot a light user

uneven dagger
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Lights are op, the game is made for them holy shit CATGRIN

fathom sky
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This game is light :)

summer citrus
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Why the matching is always so bad? got useless teammates most matches , its just so flutuating

violet elbow
static fable
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Why so many FCAR skins when the gun is nerfed to the ground

fierce dagger
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I don’t like the 50+ meter headshot challenge a lot of players are not good with snipers and getting a headshot on some of these maps are near impossible. Change it to 2500 damage from 50m or more and it’ll be better and easier to complete it

vapid plinth
# static fable Why so many FCAR skins when the gun is nerfed to the ground

probably different people that are just artists paid to model and decide what to make skins of regardless of how the gameplay devs balance it, it's probably easy to make things for the FCAR because it's blocky, has lots of flat space to put things on, and it's distinct to make any model look generally FCAR shaped

quick coyote
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make it so people can pick not the queue with certain classes tired of WT randoms rushing in with light like its a heavy

silk shadow
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this game is seeing its final days. with how dogshit everything i just dont see how the game is gonna recover with its impending doom looming around the corner releasing november 20th. Luma Island will kill this game and i cant wait to see it

night vortex
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#lumaisland

tropic root
wintry oyster
# upper citrus 1. pike doesnt outdamage model 2. model is a meta pick over pike by good player...
  1. Pike can do headshots
  2. Pike doesn’t spread and hits always all of its shots (1) at the center of your sight (therefore always does maximum damage)
  3. Pike has a way smaller damage drop over distance (because it is a ranged weapon lol)

In the practice range I found that either it outperformed the model or falls only a few milliseconds behind it (give or take the error of my reaction time)

You even can pop of the magnification to use iron sights in close combat

This weapon is definitely stronger than the model in any way

unborn crest
# tropic root Cool, but it isn't made for Mediums as well and definitely not Heavies. That's...

Yes i fully agree NOT being able to one shot light with most weapons is a good thing.
There are too many unnessisary and overpowering weapons on each player type that its destroying any kind of balance the game might have,
We do not need a thousand different ways to make an explosion, we get it the games about destroying the map ooooowwwweeeee nobody fucking cares.
Sniper - One shot
Grenade Launcher - One Shot
Shotgun - One Shot
RPG - One Shot
Turrets - Based on proximity essentially One Shot

There doesnt seem to legit be a reason to play Light anymore, the game has moved on from it.
~~However, light weapons not being able to kill enemies effectively with proper movement despite being a glass canon kinda is a problem.
agreed, there are really only 2 weapons Id consider using as a light and they both only work in short distances. and i recognize that some weapons do a lot more damage than they reasonably should (for Lights) but thats not a solution either. Making TTK higher isnt fixing the problem.

rugged temple
onyx crystal
daring breach
cursive plank
#

I'll give me 2 cents on the model issue

The people who say that the issue is medium shouldn't have cqc is incorrect. medium was a jack of all trades. this was shown with their specializations being supportive, defensive and aggressive. Not to mention, if mediums weakness was supposed to be cqc, why give medium the model to begin with. it was given to them since the beginning of the game. The other issue i see is that it should deal 108 instead of 128. this would be a terrible idea for 1 reason and that is ttk. if that is to go forwards, the model will become the slowest weapon for medium in terms of ttk. There would be no point in bringing it, because every other weapon would just be better. all it really needs is the spread to be a bit worse, because dealing 128 damage from 15 meters away is a huge problem. Some say bringing a model will completely ruin the downside of heal beam, yet we play a class base shooter where it is common to strengthen or weaken ourselves in specific ways, usually to help mitigate specific scenarios.

next timber
#

PLEASE get rid of Kyoto, I get it. It's pretty and you worked real hard on it. Congratulations. But I can't play a map that glitches so hard I can't even fight back. It's not just powershift but I had it happen on quick cash too. It's like the map can't handle more than 5 players at a time

peak blaze
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Very tiny thing, but please add something like "SSD required" to the system requirements. Thanks!

pulsar willow
# unborn crest Yes i fully agree *NOT being able to one shot light with most weapons is a good ...

Sniper oneshot with requirement of hitting head. It's difficult to land especially in close range while lights using all movement stuff so it's kinda fair imo (especially with the fact that snipers are now rare kind since pike exists)
Rpg got nerfed extremely hard. Previously 140 and now 100
Shotguns always do extreme amount of damage in close range duh. If you'll ape any class with shotty (without shotty yourself) you'll probably get annihilated

rose token
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Remove Kyoto and Vegas please.

mortal notch
# tropic root Cool, but it isn't made for Mediums as well and definitely not Heavies. That's...

I genuinely think closing the Hp gap between classes (175/250/350/giga buffing light guns so it’s actually a glass cannon and not just used for gateway would be great for the game
@red echo light is the worst it’s been since s1 post rpg nerf and nearly unusable in ranked and if played basically just used as a gateway with the current balancing the easiest way to balance light would be to just buff Hp
Keep coping

night vortex
quiet jay
red echo
jaunty fern
#

once pike/model/defibs are nerfed, light will be viable

worn horizon
violet elbow
#

how Id personally fix the current state of the game, specifically ranked and world tour:

weapons:

  • revert XP damage to 18, nerf its range.
  • revert V9S rpm, the "problem" with people abusing it was a non issue, you could achieve the 7 shots a second by clicking normally
  • revert sniper hitscan change, the weapon feels terrible now
  • or add a rangefinder and bullet drop indicators to the sniper scope
  • nerf pike to 48 damage
  • or nerf pike from 150 to 120 RPM
  • nerf model to 108 damage
  • buff fcar range and clean up its recoil pattern (14.3 instead of 12.1 damage at max range)
  • buff revolver damage at range (37.74 instead of 33.3 at max range)
  • buff accuracy on revolver (remove the base inaccuracy)

specilizations:

  • nerf winch claw to be blocked by shields
  • nerf charge and slam to 80 damage initially and 50 on consecutive hits,
  • buff charge and slam distance slightly and allow it to break more consecutive walls before stopping
  • buff mesh shield cooldown to 5s and 800 hp total
  • revert cloak to S3 state, its more visible in S4 now but nothing was mentioned in patch notes
  • revert single heal beam nerf (50hp/s)
  • make heal beam only heal for 50% (25hp/s) if the person thats being healed has taken damage in the past 1.5s

cashout:

  • nerf plug money across all boxes to 2k
  • pay out 1/3 (3k, 5k, 7k) halfway trough a cashout
  • bring back 20% teamwipes
  • remove double stacking of boxes in ranked

ranked:

  • add streamer/anonymous mode
  • hide elo, ranks, and team seating in a tournament, this info just leads to target griefing among the 1st and 2nd seated team every game
shadow radish
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please do not send me into a semi finished game! Everyone would have the chance to win, and i wouldnÂŽt stay if "my team" having no chance to win in the least 2 minutes

silk shadow
thorny hare
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nerf model into the ground, then nerf it again
nerf slug shotgun because it will become the next model after the model nerf

fiery osprey
old crypt
#

Leveling up is so fricking slow. It takes more than 20 matches just to level up in sponsorships and the overall XP gain is way too little, 1000 per game??? Are you fcking kidding me? Come on man this is ridiculous. We need a bonus XP MONTH RIGHT NOW

mortal notch
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Thought I’d drop the objectively best stubata build

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proven crown
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Charge and slam needs a rework, it's so inconsistent yet such high damage at the same time. I feel like you have too much ability to change direction yet still do the same damage. It makes no sense being able to do a 90 degree turn and still put out ridiculous damage

onyx crystal
neat yoke
pulsar willow
rich kraken
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idk who asked for the mesh shield to have cooldowns but that should not be a thing. It was already at a decent spot. 750hp is not hard to break but enough for a heavy to close some gaps. the cooldown needs to go. all it does is remove the movement skill that came with the mesh shield

long lake
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i think invisibility power should make his job literally, they can see me with no problem, thats not invisibility thats camoflage and its really shit

old minnow
#

Changes

Heavy
1.Dome shield
make it so you cannot shoot or interact with anything while inside dome shield
Make it so enemies cannot enter shield
Make it so it lasts for 9 seconds
Make it so dome shield has 1500 HP

2.Akimbo .50
Make it so it only mini crits

3.Mesh shield
Make it so you can quick Melee

Medium
1.Riot shield
20% bigger
You can’t shoot their toes
They can block all damage

2.Healing beam
There’s an alternate ability that uses it 3x faster but protect them from 60% of damage and the medium takes 50% less damage

Light
1.Dagger
Make it so you have to be standing right behind them and looking at their back and it automatically charges it and you can’t hold it while it’s charging it disable cloaking and it takes 0.6 seconds to charge but immediately discharges as soon as you look away from their back while charging and stabbing, you cannot use any specializations

2.Cloaking device
Instead of using the duration of the specialization when you activated, it takes 40% when you deactivate it When you cloak, you are completely invisible while standing still and crouch, walking and slowly walking, but you become more visible. If you take damage, this makes it easier for people to find lights this would finally make it valuable in high tier ranked and it would not be overpowered it would actually be balanced for once

Ranked changes
Make it so RS is directly connected to your score instead of having to win, make it so the higher up you go the easier it is to derank to wear at diamond you only have to lose once to derank this would make the competitive environment actually competitive instead of being a TimeSync and people in top 500 can actually be dethroned

lime lichen
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nerf the m11

keen lily
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it's not that early and searching for the ranked game already takes like 20 minutes, even with crossplay on. Is nobody playing this game in the EU morning time?

also why leaving the world tour game penalizes you from matchmaking into ranked, makes no sense, world tour is not a competitive mode

onyx crystal
thick sorrel
muted girder
broken shore
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I wish there were more gadgets and loadout variety for the medium and heavy class, the only thing I like about the light class is that you can create so many different and decent loadouts that are actually fun to play.
Medium only has one slot that can vary because defib and a movement gadget (like jumppad and zip) are pretty much mandatory if you want to increase your chance to win (in my experience at least).
And even though the rpg isnt that strong anymore most of heavies gadgets are defensive so it's still not worth replacing imo

I'd really love to use smokes as heavy or medium, this would buff the thermo vision gadget too

old minnow
copper flicker
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I've been experiencing a lot of toxicity among teammates recently

keen heath
#

Dual blades need a buff the deflect feels like it misses half the time at point blank
and the damage never feels like its enough

mortal notch
fathom sky
#

Guitar hero guitar as a sledgehammer skin

onyx crystal
restive crescent
frank ruin
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Can’t find ranked matches with crossplay off. Console. Don’t want to compete against people with a significant advantage.

pliant glade
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As much as this game ticks me off sometimes i really do love it, 10/10 not another game like it out there

dusty cedar
old minnow
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Please embark hear me out

Abilities

Abilities are a substitute for gadgets you can unequipped your gadgets to equip two passive abilities

The way you would equip these abilities would be by pressing the upwards arrow button above the first gadget, and it would swap to abilities and do unequipped abilities press the down arrow next to the ability to swap back to gadgets this can only be done in the menu

The way you were unlock these you go to equip an ability and press a ? And it would give you a random ability this cost 1000 VRs

Heavy
1.Plated protector
+100 HP But start regenerating 2 seconds later

2.Heavy-handed
range weapons deal 30% more damage
melee weapons deal 15% more damage
Shotguns deal 10% more damage
No ADS or secondary’s

3.Healthy head
Gain five HP per elimination in a row

4.Rapid succession
decrease the amount of time you have to wait for your specialization by 40%

5.Long legs
Run faster than a light and reload 2x faster but at the cost of 100 HP

6.Butcher
Lose 35% of your speed gain 40% damage

7.Tank
+200 HP start regenerating two seconds later lose 20% of your movement speed

Medium
1.Plated protector
+100 HP But start regenerating 2 seconds later

2.Heavy-handed
range weapons deal 30% more damage
melee weapons deal 15% more damage
Shotguns deal 10% more damage
No ADS or secondary’s

3.Healthy head
Gain five HP per elimination in a row

4.Rapid succession
decrease the amount of time you have to wait for your specialization by 40%

5.Insanity
Do 10% more damage and move 20% faster every elimination in a row, but lose 5% of your HP with every elimination
(stops when you reach 100 HP)

6.Elimination streak
Do 5% more damage with every elimination in a row

7.Lifesaver
Revive 60% faster

8.Swift hunter
Deal 15% more damage

9.Butcher
Lose 35% of your speed gain 40% damage

Light
1.Raw deal
lose 50 HP but move faster than light itself
(Plus%70 speed)

2.Speed Demon
With every elimination in a row gain 10% speed

3.Great sacrifice
The time between you can use your specializations is 30% longer, but you gain 50% speed

4.Elimination streak
Do 5% more damage with every elimination in a row

5.Spider climb
stick to walls and climb 2x faster then a ladder

6.Lazy light
Standstill to quickly recharge your specializations
(This works while you’re using cloaking device)

7.Rapid succession
decrease the amount of time you have to wait for your specialization by 40%

8.Insanity
Do 10% more damage and move 20% faster every elimination in a row, but lose 5% of your HP with every elimination
(stops when you reach 80HP)

9.Swift hunter
Deal 15% more damage

9.Butcher
Lose 35% of your speed gain 40% damage

frosty swallow
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this is like the fucking 50th time there is aa triple diamond team in a pllaat 4 llobby???
fix mtacchmaking i am waiting fo 30 mins for this tto happen

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formal sphinx
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Please can you do something to stop smurfing?

lavish shard
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Tips for console player turn off crossplay dont play vs kbm and pc cheater ❀❀

smoky gust
maiden pulsar
green barn
#

Please give the option to choose the soundtrack in the game settings

keen heath
#

Feels like the Match making is reset completely every season I have seen so many Emerald players from Season 3 and i know damn well Im not a that good to be playing against Emerald level player
I dont know how the match making works but would be nice for it to match players more there skill level and not a hot pot of High ranking players

PS: do something about Smurfs Im running into more of them then I have since last season (that or there previse cheaters with new accounts)

formal sphinx
uneven rampart
split mist
#

I just got gold in ranked but no reward?

opal ocean
willow yoke
#

Nerf pike best hipfire in the game from any long range gun
nerf model no aim required just does 128 dmg flat from 20m+

dense marlin
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Remove hidden deadzone and add outer deadzone slider to controller aka console

wraith orchid
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no dont buff things that are weak because others are op.
if weapons get worse without them being nerfed qe know that the problem ARE NOT THIS WEAPONS but others. THINK!!!

quaint sphinx
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Need more customization options in private matches

lean tree
soft valley
lament sable
#

Can we please expand the ranked search parameters, playing ranked on console with crossplay is not fun in the slightest, playing ranked on console without crossplay is impossible. Ive waited 33mins in the past before giving up

slender shore
#

On the Soul 2030 map in The Finals on PS5, destroyed buildings aren't displaying properly. After being demolished, structures sometimes reappear visually, making navigation confusing. Hope this can be fixed soon!

cinder elm
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Stop matching AGAIN against same players on enemy team after losing or winning. It's so annoying.

Add bonus xp/fans for players who are filling match in progress. Usually those matches end up in loss, so it could give initiative to play through possibly losing match.

split mist
rocky turtle
shy token
#

As we can all see, THE FINALS' community is deeply passionate when it comes to concept art and making drip. Earlier this year we saw the switch away from exclusive bundle pricing to individual items now being made available for purchase. This alone allowed a great amount of customisation and personalisation of the game. But @shy token is back this time to argue the case for community driven input.

By allowing the community to create fan-made concepts and outfits using available items, TF has allowed its community to creatively flourish. However, we think, and there are others who have considered this idea as well within the community, that new community made items should be given the chance to be official and in-game.

This would not be the first time that such a thing exists in the world of gaming. Warframe's 'TennoGen' is one of the best examples of having the community be involved in the creative process. This engagement's potential is virtually limitless and invaluable for the game's longevity and community. It can be further sustained by giving the creator(s) a chance to be awarded through a variety of ways, in combination or merely by themselves:
(a) recognition,
(b) in-game or IRL payment,
(c) but most importantly a free (perhaps personalised) version of the very same item that will be immortalised in the world of TF.
(DAY 57)

tawdry tree
#

Looks like a waste of your own time, you should play a game you like and have fun instead of this, sounds depressing man...

spare mirage
#

Day 10 of asking to add an mp7 to the game

uneven rampart
dense marlin
#

Remove hidden deadzone and add outer deadzone slider to controller aka console

barren hare
#

It's probably been talked about before but grinding for fans feels nearly not as good as normal XP, with people starting to farm them by using gas and the healing beam being a sign that it's not a popular mechanic and that it's just too slow. Plus it doesn't feel normal that quick cash matches rewards as many fans as a full tournament of WT or ranked (between 100 and 300 average per match). Not to mention that all contract rewards would in theory go up to 36k fans, which is also not even close to the amount required to unlock the final weapon. That leaves with 132k fans to gain which is around between 600 and 700 matches to play in total, I'm sure that most players will not have the time to play that much.

sudden tangle
#

PLEASE ADD DIFFERENT BALANCE FOR COMPETITIVE AND CASUAL. YOU WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO BALANCE COMPETITIVE AND CASUAL BECAUSE OF INHERENT CLASS DIFFERENCES. HERE ARE MY RECOMMENDATIONS FOR COMPETITIVE SINCE CASUAL IS WHAT YOU FOCUSED ON AND IS IN A GOOD SPOT RIGHT NOW:

changes for comp:

revert double barrel to season 1

buff matter damage, fire rate and/or range

buff v9s damage and range

revert lh1 range nerf

revert xp s4 nerf

increase m11 dmg

revert stun gun indicator change and make it so it blocks gadgets again (defib nerf)

make glitch destroy defib holograms (defib nerf)

make sniper hitscan again

do all of these and light will be able to compete with with the other two classes in the meta

revert dome shield hp nerf

revert s4 mesh cd and hp nerf

reduce rpg damage to 50, increase destruction damage range

make healbeam not stack healing on same target

make defib a team wide cooldown

nerf pike hipfire and/or nerf pike damage upclose (inverse of damage falloff)

with these changes you will get as close as you can to a meta that includes L.

right now L is useless.

you ruined the game for competitive light players. if you want us back you'll do something, fast.

autumn sedge
molten mango
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Double or triple fan gains in tournaments

Revives should give +250 support score (or more)

map voting tournaments

Give us the option to choose between emerald weapons
...

unreal fossil
# rich kraken idk who asked for the mesh shield to have cooldowns but that should not be a thi...

This.

I understand that Embark intended the spec to be used in a more thoughtful manner, i.e. saving it for last ditch, emergency sustain when you/your team are caught up under heavy enemy fire, or using it to mitigate incoming damage when pushing together as one.

But being able to 'juggle' the shield effectively offered room for skill expression in CQC 1v1, while not being impossible to counter even without glitch. I liked it better than CnS and personally never had issues going up against it either.

brittle obsidian
pale quest
pliant glade
bleak coral
unreal fossil
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Yes. MS/FT was my jam at the end of S3, at least in casual games. Mesh juggling did make the weapon semi-viable and fun to use, but required good timing to win fights. I get that it could feel frustrating to deal with a Heavy spitting flames and shielding, but I've been killed enough times to know that there was counterplay to this loadout.

I don't use FT anymore since the Mesh nerf. I used to play CnS/FT a while ago but later found out the Mesh was a much more reliable option. Winch is pretty bad with such a slow TTK weapon.

remote verge
#

sword nerfs when

verbal breach
#

Here is a list of changes that might make the dual blades viable:

-Damage Combo to 110, 120, 80
| Allows for kill combos with a quick melee

-Deflected Bullets can crit (uses crit mod from the deflected weapon)
| raises skill ceiling

-blocks 33% of explosion damage
| we need something against grenade launchers, ok

Please Embark 🙏

quick coyote
#

Make tournament to feel more like a league system in division

Placement top 50 in a given division

formal sphinx
#

Not enough credit or points is given to support. Too much reward is given to frag non-objective players.

dense ocean
#

day 38 asking embark
let console players able/disable HUD

sudden tangle
candid epoch
rough hinge
#

Once again asking for winch claw damage to be increased to 10

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dim steeple
#

Can we have music in the elevators?

tired fable
proper torrent
smoky gust
#

More map bound music like in vegas would be really neat in general

Elevators are only 1 possible area to add music to

thorn kelp
#

I prefer the Model's dmg to be no lower than 120, but not greater than 124. This way, the Model can still one shot + quick melee lights, but now requires two shots + one quick melee to kill Mediums

Realizing the Medium's design is to have mid-range weapons, I've come to the realization that a wider spread will not only rid of the weapon's design in general, it just wouldn't fit with Medium's arsenal. I think the Model is satisfying to use, but can be a tad bit overwhelming at times. I don't understand people's decisions of making it do less of what a shotgun is supposed to do (Ex: "nerf to 108 dmg" I once saw)

This or a slight fire rate nerf đŸ€·đŸŸâ€â™‚ïž

long arrow
#

Rework of matchmaking , tired to play with irons kd players who are more lost than 100irons in Valorant

violet elbow
zealous pulsar
#

either merge use and grab or let us merge them: it's a waste of a key slot since nothing is both usable and grabbable

upper citrus
# thorn kelp I prefer the Model's dmg to be no lower than 120, but not greater than 124. This...

The issue with 120 is that it allows mediums to 3 tap heavies. At the very least it should be a 3 tap + quick melee. Heavy is the cqc class and allowing it to be evenly contested by heal medium is one of the main reasons why heavy is seen a lot less now and heavy players aren’t really enjoying this season as much

What I would really like to see them experiment with is 100 damage and a spread buff to keep the current damage from range the same

bright sail
#

has there been discussion about making an inspect animation for holtow hammer so thatt you can actually see the check it makes?

obsidian ginkgo
#

when we got model 1887 and light sword nerf ? it's unplayable shit. EMBARK please check games, do smth, currently ranked state is awful, new spawn system solve nothin, team spawns right infront of you and if you coverin cashout and 3rd team wiped u spawned on another point.

wispy sand
#

Revert Medium to Heal Beam and defibs in their starting kit for new players, this isn't COD, the support needs to know its support.

boreal rivet
#

Add a windbox to spears secondary fire. Specifically to knock away incoming grenades because that would be cool. There should also be some small windows of time where the wind box is inactive so well placed grenades still can deal some damage.
It's to add something to compete with sledge hammers superior utility and ttk while adding onto a visual.

deep sierra
#

Remove smoke from light and give it to medium.

shrewd plank
#

Only cheaters above 35k in ranked.

long arrow
clear vale
#

What is the best reticle/crosshair settings?

uneven dagger
#

one dot imo

also delete this channel

sonic wigeon
#

No need to nerf model 1887. Its perfectly balanced with long full-reload time and you get heavily punished if you miss a shot because ttk increases alot.

Be more dynamic in ur playstyle depending on which wep you use. Sledge is strong aswell but I dont hear no clomplaints

bronze pumice
#
  • Model nerf
  • Pike nerf
  • Make the spear alternate attack cancellable
  • Charge & Slam nerf
  • revert XP-54 damage nerf and lower range
  • Mesh shield much better than start of season but could still stand to be unnerfed a tad
  • Accessibilty option which allows for tap fire and burst fire weapons to just be held down
  • Release the other variants of the hair used in the rockabilly outfit, they existed in the OB but we only got the blonde version in the battlepass back in S1
  • Would like to see sys$Horizon and Fortune Stadium eventually get some love with variants
jagged cedar
mortal notch
dull kettle
normal gyro
#

Reward players for representing their sponsors

I feel as though you should get more fans if you use cosmetics or skins that represent the sponsor that you chose. For example, each cosmetic/skin you use should boost fan gain by 5% per piece, and have an upper limit of like 20% maximum.

How can you gain fans if the fans can't even see what sponsor you represent??

wooden atlas
echo urchin
#

Can we get some actual Bo Staff technique buffs to the spear, increase the circumference of the spin attack, maybe add a corkscrew staff slam, or rapid thrusts. There’s a lot of wasted potential with that weapon.

sonic spoke
neat yoke
rapid stream
rough hinge
misty swift
#

A note to moderators:

Banning someone who gave an honest feedback about your game won't help you save this dying game,
and just so you know I have 15 DISCORD Accounts in TOTAL so....you know....

FEW THOUGHTS ON RANKED:

  1. Once you go down to Silver (Around 15000 RS) you can't climb up to GOLD unless you 3 stack with really good players, even if you are SHROUD it's impossible to do it on SOLO, trust me.

  2. Random Team mates are like Practice range robots, they are in large amounts and will make you derank regardless of anything.

  3. The Game DOES NOT take your performance into account whatsoever...the game will give it's own team mates to you and if they are bots that's your problem. That's why you see less than a 100 Twitch viewers for this game.

daring fossil
# misty swift A note to moderators: Banning someone who gave an honest feedback about your ga...

bro, I've been here since alpha in Oct22, I have been extremely critical/passionate about the devs and the way they are balancing/lack thereof and have used some colorful language. If you got banned, it's because you broke rules, not because you gave feedback. Also the 24 hour peak for twitch viewers was 1281 and is current almost 600, which still isn't much but is more than the 100 you claim

surreal meadow
#

**EMBARK!!

DROP __ 5v5 CASH __

AND MY WALLET IS YOURS!!! Day 46/100 👈 **

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coral turtle
#

Getting tfge0027 when trying to play with steam deck. Any help?

brittle obsidian
unreal fossil
# thorn kelp I prefer the Model's dmg to be no lower than 120, but not greater than 124. This...

The Pike doesn't fit Medium arsenal either in that case.

The M1887 outclasses all shotguns in the game. It's only beaten in max damage output by the SH1900. But what makes it better is its range. The SH1900, M26, SA1216 all require you to hit at (almost) point blank range to be effective, they're pea shooters beyond a few meters, the M1887 is not, as it can chip HP away from up to 20-25m. And it's just miles ahead of the KS23 in every way.

I see no reason for the significant damage/effective range tradeoffs other shotguns have to not be applied to the M1887 too. It would still be a valuable pick, just more situational.

I personally use shotguns based on maps/map variants, team comps and enemy team comps. If I don't see the weapon fitting these parameters, I will choose something else. Medium players should have the same reasoning. At the moment you can never go wrong with the M1887.

sonic spoke
abstract verge
#

Lots of bugs in several buildings now, u know?

silk tendon
#

I'm feeling a little unreasonable about the patch of this CL-40.

The recent problem was that the damage went up, and the maximum damage range was too wide

So in this patch note, after reducing the damage, increasing the magazine to five shots, the damage is set to be weak unless it's a direct hit.

But then we have to play the same as the 3.5 season.
Just like those unpleasant days when you had damage 93 and 4 bullet clips.
But now I have to play the same with the risk of suicide too high?

Wouldn't it have been better to put 117 on the damage only if it was a direct hit, and if I had done a patch that killed the damage shooting the floor, I would have made it possible to distinguish between low and high play?

And the self-damage magnification is too high for the 'main weapon'.
I understand it's a higher magnification than the current RPG, but what main weapon does more damage to itself than it does to your opponent?

Personally, I think

Reduce self-damage scale,
I think we need to do a patch that can divide the low point and the high point.

We have a good example.
Season 3 "THROWING KNIFES" is the best.

It was strong with ignorance without distinguishing between low and high points, and eventually the weapon returned to its pre-buff level.

In the end, it's a level where no patch has been made.

If you want to change something
I hope you consider it enough to make a difference in play, and patch it

sudden cosmos
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WE NEED TO NERF TURETS AS IF U ARE A LIGHT U INSTA GET BEMED TO 1 HP IF THERE IS A TURET

neat yoke
rough hinge
daring fossil
cyan trench
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plz give us test servers so we can test unreleased features before official release

thorn kelp
brittle obsidian
# rough hinge

you already get a free shot lol what more do you want? just land the followup hit or i dunno, stick next to your team and let them breath on them for the kill. this combo sucked when it existed, it was removed for good reason.

wintry oyster
# sonic wigeon No need to nerf model 1887. Its perfectly balanced with long full-reload time an...

Indeed
Good thing about the model is, it’s a shotgun. And it is used as such.
It is viable in a certain playstyle for a certain range.
The Pike is a could counter example.
The Pike is just strong with no real downsides.
A DMR is supposed to be a mid to longrange weapon? Doesn’t matter. Just put the iron sights on it and you’re good to go on short range as well - even against the model.
No certain playstyle - no real downsides. Just have some aim and get some free kills on any distance.

timber elk
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CAN WE GET A SWORD AND SHIELD AS A RIOOT SHIELD SKIN, CENTURION STYLE ROMAN, OR SOME KNIGHTS TEMPLAR STUFF?

lean notch
latent stream
#

My psyche cant take losing so many points because of an AFK pls just reduce the penalty for disconnects.

graceful lion
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can we have more things on our playercards plz? like how many assists i did for example

boreal sentinel
#

can we add a 1 grenade launcher attachment on the FCAR

grizzled canopy
#

Day 8 of asking Embark for Viking Cosmetics

vague urchin
#

More skirts? Like a holtow skirt :3 and make skirts have physics. I wanna be a pretty cutie pookie

narrow belfry
#

Please make it so when my teammates leave or disconnect you do not loose points or points lost are significantly reduced bc it’s unfair to derank or loose 500+ points bc your teammates disconnect or throw the match

copper canopy
floral shoal
#

I've come to make announcement.

Nerf Light

timber elk
brittle obsidian
amber bear
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Bring back tripwires and built in map turrets for a week. Make new players feel the pain

unreal fossil
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Could be done for looks, without making it an actual weapon. The underbarrel GL would be part of FCAR/AKM skins. It would function exactly like regular grenades (same projectile speed, same range), just with different animations: when selecting grenades in your loadout, your character would tilt the AR upwards and fire them from it.

deep summit
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nerf model 1887

daring fossil
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are you guys ever going to fix the netcode? maybe fix face stabs, nerf the goddamn sword dash? please suck less Embark

@rough storm it doesn't help that people see you round a corner a full second before you see them after rounding a corner.

rough storm
#

Entering a building getting killed within 0,000001 second AS A HEAVY by a tripple Medium Model team makes it so skill based, i love it 😍

@daring fossil Very true, funny thing is: I'm even talking about entering through a self-made hole in the roof so they couldnt know where we came from.

@misty jasper What are you even saying? The only other weapon that could 3-hit a heavy are the sniper & double barrel. Not even 3 RPG shots couldve killed me at once, so think again

glad ore
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Please please please, Embark! Add an option to make pressing Q to select goo gun or heal beam not a toggle. That is, when this option is enabled, pressing Q will always only bring out goo gun/heal beam -- it would never swap back to a different item.

misty jasper
dense marlin
#

Remove hidden deadzone and add outer deadzone slider to controller aka console

verbal bane
#

Please don't listen to the no-skills whining about the Model 1887.

It does not need nerfing.

The 1887 is not a weapon with which any new player can dominate a lobby.

It is a weapon of skill.

All these whiners just want you to nerf the weapons they get killed with, and boost the weapons they use.

Please, please, please do not listen to these fools.

EDIT: I use FAMAS and Pike 🙄

surreal meadow
#

PLAYER RETENTION
look balance changes are cool and all, but when are we going to adress new player retention
this game is very unique compared to literally any other mainstream / niche FPS.

Classes, excessive movement, excessive destruction, complex gamemodes - in comparision to other shooters like CoD, Apex, OW2, Valorant/CS2, etc
The general premise of these games are literally Us VS Them
Too many teams are too complex, not including how unique the gamemode of cashout is
Every friend ive introduced to The Finals has always complained theres too much to learn at once cause choice paralysis/being overwhelmed. Ive had ZERO friends stay with the game, and theyre all Apex/OW players which is a cousin to this game.
You can reduce this uniqueness flashbang by segwaying them into the uniqueness of this game to help them adapt. IE simpler gamemodes. Specifically 2 team gamemodes

TLDR: complex gamemodes pushes away new players - add more 2 team gamemodes
5v5 Cash <<<
or like TDM so people can adjust to the game easier

@copper flicker agreed

mortal notch
copper flicker
brittle obsidian
# verbal bane Please don't listen to the no-skills whining about the Model 1887. It does not...

please explain to me how the model rewards anything other than the basic amount of aim required to play an fps game.

you don't need to aim for heads

you don't need to land a lot of shots

you have a cone of pellets for additional leniency

no mid-air/hipfire dispersion so you can maintain your full mobility while dishing out full damage

you can engage from mid or close range so positioning is optional (plus its hitscan, unlike similar weapons like ks23 and cl40).

its skill ceiling is as low as its skill floor. you can say it rewards consistent aim, sure, but it also rewards blind luck because the reward is astronomically high. its pretty much the textbook definition of a low skill weapon, except unlike most low skill weapons, its strictly better than all its higher-skill contemporaries.

autumn sedge
#

5v5 QC or Cashout, please and thank you

daring fossil
# mortal notch “Sword dash” Another user who literally has no clue what he’s talking about Sw...

yes, 1600 hours and no clue what im talking about. The netcode literally does not allow for any human reaction time. I have baited people into rooms who will then open the door I'm aimed at and kill me in the same frame. But yeah, I have no clue what im talking about. I don't take the opinions of people who are green and have only been in the server a few months with any weight, that means you yap, a lot, and of course you're going to be bias, you're a sword main nothing broken is ever broken to the people who use it, and again I'll reiterate, the sword would be fine, if the netcode wasn't shit, the netcode is shit because movement is server-side (did you know this?) because it has to be to sync with the destruction, no other game does this, and no other game has these problems because of this, but I don't know what I'm talking about 👍

I would have no issue with sword dash combo if I wasn't dead before I have any indication im being attacked and if it didn't constantly appear like I'm being one-shot by someone who didn't even come close to me. I have the same problem with heavy sledge being able to hit seemingly at impossible ranges due to the shit netcode.

wheat wyvern
chrome basin
#

Whats with the shitty servers this season? From shield desync to shooting at people with open heads and hitting the shield. To just genuinly missing shots on opponents standing still like 1 meter away from me

woeful arch
#

Uninstalling The Finals, played since season 1 with all battle passes and a bunch of premium skins but to be honest, haven't had much fun in a while, the game is too repetitive with problematic approaches to game modes.

  • Quick Cash is too predictible, bothering to carry the vault and defend the objective leads to losing the objective to a late or random team that shows up right at the end of the countdown and steals it; having multiple teams able to steal the objective back to back is just adding to the frustration, not to the thrill;
  • Terminal Attack should have a backfill role; I stopped playing that game mode in season 3 when it was obvious people would rage quit and leave their team to lose 5v4 halfway; having penalty for quitters only at the beginning of the rounds is ineffective at best;
  • Power Shift is fun when all players care for the objective but too often it's used as a map for people to test weapons and do their dailies or circuit objectives, so when you're the only one on the platform and the objective of the day enabled by devs is "do as much damage to people on the platform", it's obviously discouraging and y ou go "why bother".

I'll reinstall when there's a new game mode. It's been good, though.

rough storm
# verbal bane Please don't listen to the no-skills whining about the Model 1887. It does not...

We found another Model user bois.

Than tell me why a friend of ours who literally just started playing gets 12+ kills with the Model AND ONLY the model? Your comment is 0% grounded. Your weapon of skill literally needs 2 games adjusting to it's shot timing and you're good to go.
Also, you're one of the guys that defended CL before the nerf claiming it was good as it was so enough said. You lost all right of speaking there so i'm not even gonna bother answering you again.

The fact that the Model players are whining about "oh please don't nerf it" literally says it all. They can't play anything else and it would break the tripple Medium noob gang meta hard.
Just nerf it already cuz i'm so fed up being forced to play it myself cuz of it's dumb OP potential.

btw, @daring fossil PREACH 🙏

rich sonnet
#

Can we get some data into this discussion?
i.e. Is there anywhere we can go to check usage rates by mode, rank, etc.?

misty jasper
sand hazel
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why did sniper get nerfed to closer range when the pike can do the same thing. the fact that the gun made for long range was made so close baffles me and then just giving it to medium is wild. why can a medium have better range than the sniper and put more shots down range?

surreal meadow
slow void
#

Yeah why take another class when Medium got it all ?

  • Best weapon with the model
  • Defib
  • Heal
  • OP Turret
  • Mines
  • Zipline and bumper for movement

this make all the other classes useless or just "for fun"

mortal notch
# daring fossil yes, 1600 hours and no clue what im talking about. The netcode literally does no...

I know the netcode is dogshit and I know why its dogshit and why it needs to be fixed u diddnt explain that u had a problem with it in your first message maybe try explaining next time insted of being vague as fuck you also said “nerf” not fix
I’ve been in this server since December I honestly literally have no clue why it says June
I have 1400 hrs and 1.1 in game we should measure our dicks more it’s hot
I also literally said it needs a nerf but no sword isn’t broken it needs a rework/multihit removal I’m not defending sword did you even read my first message?
U literally diddnt say a thing I don’t disagree with but instead of saying “nerf the goddam sword dash” which to me that means you want to NERF it and
Not that u want fix the netcode to not make sword as bad ??????
Just maybe type what u mean next time? Or if you would like them to nerf sword come up with constructive criticism on why it needs to be nerfed eg:lsss range etc

sonic wigeon
glacial knot
#

If you see cheaters cheat blatant with battlepass skins you can be sure that the anti cheat is a joke. Cheaters are not affraif to get banned. RIP Anti cheat

solid kernel
#

Random ideas I can't not toss into the void: Wallrun/ wallride specialization for light that would work like titanfall movement or Lucio's skates from overwatch. Maybe would work as a specialization or might be worth holding onto as an idea if they decide to add passives later down the line for some reason (im not saying to add passives but if u DO then give light wallrun it'll be cool and compliment the existing kit well i think :3)

In a similar vein I think it would be funny if heavy's could do damage to enemies if they landed on them from high up enough but that might be too goofy for the feel of the game

Actual critiques: the game is cool as it is overall, probably the only game that satiates my desire for both death and destruction at the same time :3
The gunplay feels really good even to a non-fps gamer like me and traversing the map as any class feels fun and intuitive, specifically being able to vault up so high above your head makes navigation feel very freeform and versatile.

However I don't feel like players who leave mid-match are punished enough, and I tend to join games as backfill very very often for some reason, to the point where it feels unnatural. I'm no game dev so lemme know if I'm being dumb but I feel like a backfill cue should be opt-in and grant extra rewards.
Additionally, I feel like there might be some value in little tooltips during loadout selection pre-match that suggest which builds would be best to play considering the builds of your teammates, for example on a team with two lights and a heavy, a lil tab would pop up in the corner that would say that the odds of winning would be higher if one light was swapped for a medium. I remember overwatch doing this when I played it in the yee olde times of 2017 ish

haha words go brrrrrrr

verbal bane
# rough storm We found another Model user bois. Than tell me why a friend of ours who litera...

lol

The CL40 was fine. The CL40 requires deflection shooting, which means if you're getting hit by it, you're either standing still, or moving in a predictable pattern.

In short, that is a skill issue. YOUR skill issue.

btw, I use the FAMAS and sometimes the Pike, not the Model 1887.

Try making fewer assumptions about the skillls and loadout choices of others, and maybe you'll see that it is you, and players like you, who are the problem.

EDIT: Yes, a casual Team Deathmatch mode for new players especially to get the hang of mechanics would be great.

wraith orchid
#

the steps are not loud enough for burst weapons like dubbarrel/model and other high burst damage weapins

daring fossil
# mortal notch I know the netcode is dogshit and I know why its dogshit and why it needs to be ...

bro I literally said "fix the netcode and facestabs" in the same sentence, and you started with "you don't know what you're talking about" but you "agreed with me" apparently. I did read your message, starting with "another user who doesn't know what they're talking about" definitely isn't defensive lol /s. The netcode needs to be fixed, and since that's never going to happen, they need to nerf the sword and all the shit that's broken because of the netcode being shit (to compensate). I typed exactly what I meant. I'm sorry if I get so fucking annoyed by the constant bullshit in this game to 100% articulate every single detail when it takes them 8 months to address even the smallest issues I and most people give feedback on while they completely fuck up balance, over compensate and repeat and piss the player base off 6 dozen times in between. Sometimes sentiment is better feedback than a good description is, and that is good data no matter how you want to view it. The sentiment is, that im fucking annoyed, I don't care how they fix it, just that it's a problem.

@tropic root voices are based on the head you choose, you can change them.

tropic root
#

I'm pretty sure the contestant voices are AI. Why not have an option to change their voices as well?

I'm growing tired of hearing the same generic male and female voices talking over each other every game. It'd be amazing if we had different accents or languages

narrow spade
unreal fossil
# surreal meadow __PLAYER RETENTION__ look balance changes are cool and all, but when are we goin...

It hurts to say it, but you're right. And so are people saying that there should be a casual TDM mode.

The reason why I say it hurts, is because players keep complaining about the lack of innovation in games, especially in this genre. Yet when something like The Finals pops out, with its own unique game mode, they won't play it, complaining about modes like TDM being absent. As if we hadn't seen that already in pretty much all FPS games ever. I just don't understand.

@verbal bane The Model, a 'weapon of skill' ? Really ? The R357 is a weapon of skill. Hell even the RS is more of a weapon of skill than the Model. @brittle obsidian said it all very well so I won't repeat his post.

The Model needs to be in line with other shotguns (less damage/only effective at point blank range). It dominates way too easily from close to mid range with very minimal effort.

Edit: any other shotgun in the game requires the exact same skill set as the Model, except they are all only effective at point blank range, except the Model.

glad trout
#

Heavy Weapon idea: Railgun
❓ a bulky gun that shoots high-velocity projectiles
đŸ©ž DMG: 36 | Headshots: 65 (1,8x)
đŸ©ž âŹ‡ïž DMG falloff start: 34m | max falloff: 46m 50%
đŸ”„ RPM: 310
🎯 aim accuracy: very high | hip fire accuracy: bad
⏱ Reload time: 3.5s
Mag Capacity: 18
⚙ full auto | first shot when spraying has a 0.3-0.5s charge delay.
đŸ’„ destruction: destroys Goo w/ 1-2 shots/ball. | destroys a small hole into a thin wall w/ 4-6 shots

Art by Alex Jessup on Artstation

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pseudo breach
#

These constant crashes are insane. How this game is retaining any players is beyond me. ARC Raiders probably going to be a fuck up as well. GG Embark

golden temple
#

SBMM is broken right now. Explain to me why my friend and I are getting saddled with lvl 5-15 players? We are essentially fighting 2v3 in every encounter. Please overhaul this system, and come up with a new way to balance teams.

Remove SBMM all together or stop matching total skill levels of teams. Start matching skill between the players ON your team.

rich sonnet
red echo
surreal meadow
# unreal fossil It hurts to say it, but you're right. And so are people saying that there should...

when they say they want something new, they mean

~ something 1% different
(at the core of all popular PvP game genres are 99% the same, CoD, Apex, Valorant/CS, not really OW. can also extend to other genres like platformers - any fucking mario game and im a shill for it, specifically New series, Celeste, a Metroidvania Clone #10835. Or fighting games street fighter, MK, GG, SoulCaliber, Tekken, smash is an exception bc of nintendo marketing, and any roblox battlegrounds game. theyre 99% the same shit thats "new" in the consumers eyes. anything too new (like the finals is too shooter genre) and theyll not play it
~ they need to be good at it instantly
(if the skill celing is too high without a large enough playerbase, the game will become niche. Look at R6 for example, jynxsi revived it after years of casuals leaving bc of the game getting too sweaty. This game kicked off with several players leaving bc of too unique, and now the setteled playerbase will dumpster any new player that comes along. The instant you boot up a game you will get dumpstered and that isnt fun. This isnt some a bajillion $ company willing to shill 6 digits on marketing to keep a clear division between all skill levels in EVERY gamemode. In turn, noone has their friends introducing them to the game to motivate them to stick around and around the learning curve

if its not minisculely different & something they can instantly pickup without be dumpstered on, casual gamers not gonna play it, case and point:
The Finals playercount
The Finals is too unique
The Finals needs easier to understand gamemodes (TDM or 5v5 Cash)
The Finals will continue to lose playercount until this happens and even then
i really dont understand how TDM hasnt been in since day 1

rough storm
regal pasture
#

off topic but why do we still lose points in ranked when missing a teammate? happened for the second time in this week and it's frustrating

@daring fossil Yeah it's hard to win with a missing teammate, smart. This game is the ultimate game where you need a whole team, squad or whatever. Most games forgive you for some points etc for situations like this.

daring fossil
# pseudo breach These constant crashes are insane. How this game is retaining any players is bey...

I rarely crash, like MAYBE once a couple months, and they fixed the crashes I was getting after 3.14. Maybe look into your configuration, UE5 can be sensitive to overclocks, try updating your bios, turn multi-core enhancement off if it's on.

@regal pasture because you still lost? It's like that in most ranked games, the difference is, most games let you vote surrender or something.

@sand bramble this has been reported numerous times and has been an issue in the game since early season 3.

sand bramble
#

What is this walkthrough able floor in Vegas Sandstorm?

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wraith orchid
#

PLEASY FIX THE DESTRUCTION I DSONT WANNA LOOSE ALL THE TIME BC EVERYTHING IS FALLING APART FOR NOP REASON!!!! @verbal bane as someone who plays the game and knows the power of the model i clearly dont wanna argue with you xd

verbal bane
broken citrus
#

I’m currently gold 4 in WT, can i NOT play against emeralds’ stack players please ? I can’t progress good enough

unreal fossil
# surreal meadow __when they say they want something new, they mean__ ~ something 1% different ...

You're god damn right.

I just can't help but notice the hypocrisy of it all. People just don't know what they want, and they're not willing to commit to something challenging even though they pretend to. I used to be a console/controller player, switching to PC/KBM felt like starting all over. I used to be a Battlefield player first and foremost, and was actually better at using tanks and planes than fighting on foot. Switching to The Finals required me to adjust substantially, no vehicles, much faster pace, much smaller teams meaning individual performance matters more, longer TTK that requires much better/smoother aim. I did not -and still don't- have the best skill set to play this game, but I held on to it because I felt that it would only get better as I improved. And it did. Last time a FPS made me feel like this was when BF3 released in 2011.

The thing is, you can't complain about the industry being filled with greedy publishers who refuse to take any risks and just ask studios to copy/paste the same crap, release half-assed titles that take 34 patches to reach a playable state, stuffed with all the 'game as a service' BS, if you just refuse to challenge yourself a little with a new game like The Finals. The industry gets criticized for lots of things that Embark didn't fall for, and I think besides the quality of the game itself, they should get more praise fo this. If this game fails, it will just prove that the greedy publishers are right to keep milking players with bad releases and pernicious micro transactions.

I guess I'm just barking like an old fart.

clear niche
quick coyote
#

The "revive a teammate" challenge is broken for me. 2nd day in a row. Both defib and manual revive doesnt count.

lean tree
#

Nerf model.

deep summit
#

Nerf model 1887

rough storm
whole hemlock
#

WHY IS THERE A SPAWN BEHIND HOSPITAL WHEN WE HAVE A CASHHOUT GOING THERE

azure sonnet
#

I WANT TO THE DEVELOPERS OF THE FINALS TO WORK ON SUPPORT FOR MOUSE AND KEYBOARD ON PS5

jagged knot
#

I hope they increase the fire rate for M26 MATTER in this update. This weapon has so much potential.

obsidian ginkgo
#

soloq ranked dead (you just losing rs's, i lost more then 10k from 38k), always non skilled nabs with models, shit spawns (infront of you or 200m away from your cashout), every 2nd game ligth swords, a lot of bugs and disconnects, its 4 season and we cant get any decent experience. do smth usefull embark pls, i like this game, i donate a lot, but i cant play game without losing nervous cells

unreal fossil
rich sonnet
vestal igloo
#

NERF MODEL AND SWORD NOW

surreal meadow
old minnow
#

Defib
make it so when you respawn , you have no HP but immediately start regenerating

safe cargo
#

Teammate leaves before ranked game starts.. yet I still lose 1200 RS. so f’ing ridiculous

daring fossil
untold haven
#

my friend loads in slow so it's normally past the countdown point, should still display the hologram after that sequence

cold bolt
#

revert to s2 team spawns

wicked dragon
#

I have collected more points than required for Diamond in WT but a weird bug is keeping me out from getting there. Somehow the bar has crossed the limit and now my points are being added on top of the regular bar as extra.

autumn gate
#

please delete heavys from the game

placid obsidian
#

I need to be able to use a keyboard on console, i am physically incapable of being good on a controller. Major skill issue on my part but if you add kbm support then i can do better because i am better on kbm. I really like this game but i also like doing well in this game. Love, Neppheww

glad trout
# surreal meadow __when they say they want something new, they mean__ ~ something 1% different ...

This. "You're goddamn right." -Walter H. White.
In todays world, every song is the same, every movie is the same, and same goes for videogames. The Finals would have been groundbreaking 5 or 6 years ago, but now, people get mad if they cant instantly play a game like a god, and if there are server issues, every server break some ppl will lose interest simply because they have to be patient. And when a new game comes out that is in any way similar to Call of Duty of Overwatch or Counter Strike, gamers will complain with all their might how much of a copy it is of another game, when in reality they do not even dig deep or play the game for 10 hours before reviewing. This is why The Finals might die early, even though its really gem in fps gaming.

remote verge
wooden atlas
#

To all who beg for melee nerfs


Just
no.

Melee weapons only feel oppressive in melee. And guess what? That’s the only range in which they can function. If you play melee, you should be rewarded for getting up close and personal with the enemy. So I would kindly request that Embark leave melee weapons as they are (except maybe to buff the med ones)

wind moat
#

why the F is sword not nerfed yet? its fucking dominating ranked. Are the devs completely incompetent?

deep sierra
celest berry
#

nerf the fk sword Finals is an FPS not an arena brawler
good sword player can consistently win 1v2ÂŽs or 1v3ÂŽs not even a good model player can do that and model is also completly broken

Dont be like "light has the lowest winrate of all our classes we cannot nerf it"

Get the to the root of the problem why light has the lowest winrate, a light player has to be 100% perfect with positioning otherwise they die instantly so give light some survivalbility like +50HP and balance arround that instead of giving light unlimited mobility

glacial knot
#

Some cheaters are using def multiplier .

worn horizon
#

tomorrow halloween event?

hot solstice
#

A simple nerf for the sword would be keep it from being charged during abilities

humble forge
#

We absolutely need a frag grenade UI that shows when a grenade is thrown at us in “The Finals”! It’s absurd that we have to rely on luck to figure out if we’re about to get blown up. Imagine being in the heat of battle, and you can’t see if someone just tossed a grenade your way until it’s too late! A dedicated UI that indicates incoming grenades would completely change the game. It would give players a fighting chance to dodge or prepare instead of just sitting there, clueless and about to get wrecked. This isn’t just a minor tweak; it’s essential for survival! It’s high time the developers step up and implement this feature. We deserve better than playing a guessing game with our lives!

agile crow
quick coyote
#

Let's talk about how there no events no Halloween feel or nothing fun, it's seriously becoming depressing seeing all the other games get these creative Halloween events etc, but the finals act as if nothing's happening. It's a game show there should be different events like a night time all lights out flashlight event or a search for the cash out event with a radar or something cool like that, I love grinding rank and world tour as much as the next guy but I like 2 blow off some steam after loosing 4 ranks because silver teammates posing as golds wanna run off across the map and play tdm

ember ridge
#

FIX THE FUCKING DESTRUCTION NOT SHOWING PROPERLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

crude compass
#

HALLOWEEN SKINS AND EVENT TO AND ADS TO PROMOTE THE GAME FOR HALLOWEEN

wind meteor
# quick coyote Let's talk about how there no events no Halloween feel or nothing fun, it's seri...

Halloween theme and Limited time event are coming with tomorrow's update, or next week's update at most.

@random patrol it just needs a range nerf. it's the lowest fire rate, that's why damage cannot be brought down. but maybe a higher spread will decrease damage at range. I'm also a model user. it really needs fast reaction to use it well. I rarely lose against other model users, since they usually use because they think it's OP and will grant them free kills, but it's not and it doesn't

random patrol
#

as an 1887 user/enjoyer it does need a nerf, idk how exactly but clearly too srtong rn

keen briar
#

Totally agree. Last seasons you could hear it clearly and actually understand when timer was on 20 seconds. Now it's very quiet.
Also, nerf the sword please :)

dull kettle
#

Do u get a gold ak for getting gold? Cause I didn’t get one

old minnow
#

When are we going to see some events for the season? Like in season 1 or is it going to be boring like season 3 and 2

copper flicker
#

Boost EXP and Fans from terminal attack, I'm top 1000 and I barely have any fans at all as much as I play

covert nest
#

These XP rewards feel extremely pathetic for the amount of work it takes to actually progress between these last stages. Atleast make it like 15k or even 20k

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wheat egret
#

The Mission: "stop opponents from stealing or decrypting.." It's almost impossible to do or it's buged...... everytime when you shoot someone he just stop to decrypt....

brittle obsidian
#

revert v9s change and just allow players to fire semi auto by holding the button down. rebalancing a weapon because of a usability issue is nonsensical

pseudo leaf
#

give lights even smaller hitboxes or nerf model and pike 🙂

violet elbow
#

revert v9s change, making light time to kill faster and heavy and medium time to kill slower is fucking stupid

celest sable
#

3 mediums with 3 models is all youre going to see at high elo until the devs wake up

wind meteor
glacial knot
mossy karma
trim ginkgo
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Is the headshot thing broke, only asking because I got like 14 headshots with no gain in my score and I was far away like it said to be

versed eagle
#

PLEASE GIVE ARROW INDICATOR FOR FRAG GRENADAS THANKS

uneven dagger
#

Buff model nerf sword

lime lichen
#

PLEASE NERF M11

thorny lynx
#

Buff model
Buff Sword
Buff Invis grenade
Take away 100 health from Heavy
Nerf Dual Blades
Add nuclear missle
Add healing bomb for light
lmao

storm inlet
#

rework your point system PLEASE ITS SO BAD

worn horizon
#

can we get 9 contesant slots because 3 classes and 9 slots just makes the most sense. also can we name our character slots to whatever we like?

supple dawn
#

The "select gamemode" and "play [last played gamemode]" buttons on the main menu should be swapped imo because the select game mode one also shows a picture of the last played gamemode which is really confusing. It just doesnt make any sense to do it the way it is now.

noble tendon
deep summit
rotund sluice
#

Lower self-damage on CL-40. Make it 1x-1.25x at most, 1.6x ruins the gun altogether

Give dual blades unarmed running speed when deflecting, and extend the coverage on the player model. If someone shoots at your feet it should still deflect back - it’s not accurate to the player model, but otherwise the dual blades are easily countered by aim.

Give a bit of damage back to M60, Lewis, and SA shotgun. Maybe redo SA pellet blast like what Apex did with their shotguns.

Make Model shotgun pellets have slightly more spread at range. This prevents it having such a long range effectiveness while still keeping its close quarters ability usable.

Make defib need to fully charge back from zero if you are revived with a defib. Prevents medium defib chains.

fringe burrow
#

Yall should change mega damage so all guns get exploding bullets that do the same player damage but actually can blow up walls in a reasonable time, would be very fun

hallow kindle
wind meteor
neat yoke
# hallow kindle The buff to swords this season has to be one of the most idiotic and out of touc...

its probably the best designed weapon in this game đŸ”„, but i understand that its frustrating to play against, but also falls off against good players really fast, i dont think there's much to do to tweak it without destroying half the techs on it, maybe they can revert the lunge buff but that aint gonna change much at all, dmg nerfs might fuck some breakpoints and make it unusable vs heavy

burnt notch
old minnow
#

Why has no one ever actually replied to the community directly if they would just talk?

pseudo leaf
#

there is a cheater on my team and i don't have team dmg items. I can't even chase him with gas because i am light

chrome basin
#

Actuall feedback. Can we get a round/match status on our friends list? So we know if we want to que solo or wait for someone to finnish

proper crescent
sharp bolt
#

Revert the changes made to the xp-54, Embark. Or at least explain how it is now different than the M11. It is a literally slower M11

pure crypt
#

console cross play should have the option for console only, playing against pc players is incredibly unfair but it’s mandatory to find a match in ranked, it’s genuinely impossible find a match without cross play on

sonic spoke
covert nest
buoyant plover
#

Pls unbreak seoul on ps5, I have been damned by invisible arena destruction too many times

lapis gyro
#

the PC version of the game seems to ignore steam inputs override of controller inputs, which means you can't rebind buttons correctly. This would not be an issue if SDL2 wasn't blacklisted

mint portal
#

cool

old minnow
#

Please embark

Medium
1.fire axe
120 damage
60 RPM
Secondary
Axe throw throws weapon dealing 200 damage
Once you throw it, you must pick it up. While disarmed you’re given fists which are knuckledusters without a secondary

2.claymore
100 damage
75 RPM
Secondary
(When you get an elimination gain 100 HP.
When you use your secondary drains your HP and gives it to your teammates HP drains at constant rate same tick damage as gas heels, all teammates and enemies two times as fast)

3.DB-12
10 damage
500RPM
40 rounds
Reload speed 3
8 m before fall off
(set enemy on fire after 5 shots)

4.Spell book
80 damage
80 RPM
3 rounds
Reload speed 2
(set enemy on fire spawn fire underneath player reloading animation, flipping pages)

5.Coachman
230 damage
18 RPM
Reload speed 3
5 m before fall off

6.MX-25
100 damage
70 RPM
4 rounds
Reload speed 4
(I know it’s a grenade launcher but I think it should shoot rockets)

7.M-16
18 damage
560 RPM
20 rounds
Reload speed 2.4
40 m before fall off
(when you hip fire, it shoots a grenade that deals 100 damage)

Specializations

1.Flare gun
50 damage
Refill speed 8
(set enemy on fire on hit.
when shot in the air pins enemy location for 1 second)

2.RC gunner
Drone HP 300
10 damage
300 RPM
Refill speed 12
Heavy movement speed
(when activated you drive a remote controlled four-legged machine when player is damaged instantly disable specialization 2.5m tall 2 m wide)

3.Speeding charge
80-120-160 damage
1.5 the speed of Charge and slam
You can travel up to 25 m
Refill speed 12
(When you press right trigger or lift mouse, you will swing your arm or if you have a melee weapon equipped it will show the weapon it can destroy one wall the closer you are to the end of the specialization the more damage you do)

finite galleon
#

cant wait for another week of no meaningful balance changes but hey we're getting more cosmetics am i right

copper flicker
#

I just had a bug where I could see the enemy team through walls just like a light used a sonar on them but it got stuck on the entire game

timber sedge
#

I have been playing your game since Season 1, including during the open beta phase, and I’ve spent an enormous amount of time in it. I reached Diamond in Seasons 1, 2, and 3, and in the current Season 4, I’m at Platinum rank.

With that in mind, I’d like to share my thoughts on the current state of Season 4. My main issue is the mandatory crossplay in ranked mode. Why, as a console player, am I required to play against PC players if I want to compete in ranked matches?

I don’t want to constantly suspect other players of cheating or using unfair advantages. I simply want to play with other console players who use the same equipment as I do, with the same limitations like 60 FPS. How is it fair when I’m matched against players with higher FPS and mouse-and-keyboard setups, and then this is called a level playing field where everything is based purely on skill?

Please give us the option to limit crossplay to consoles only, for example, between Xbox and PlayStation. I don’t want to play against PC players. I’ve already tried turning off crossplay, but this results in waiting over an hour for a match with no success.

Moreover, right now I’m searching for a match with crossplay disabled. I’m at Platinum rank with 36,000 points, and I’ve been waiting for 15 minutes. I’m beginning to think I’ll never find a game. I just don’t understand why you equate console players with PC players. In the earlier seasons, like Season 1 and 2, this wasn’t the case. Now, on the latest subreddit, you’ve even mentioned adding support for mouse and keyboard on consoles. Tell me — WHY?!

Additionally, I’d like to see current statistics on third-party encounters. The new respawn system is terrible — I’ve never seen such a sharp increase in third-party interactions before.

While all the developers are trying to separate players on consoles from PCs, do you think we need to unite on the contrary - WHY???

echo urchin
#

General

  • 3xM is too powerful/useful. L + H need more value and counters to M.
  • Make revive holograms destructible by glitch grenades, rpg, C4, Thermal Bore, and Breach Charge: Heavy and Light can counter Defib. Medium shouldn’t counter it.
  • if you walk through an enemy heal beam, or if the heal beam touches enemy shields, it short circuits and goes into CD.

Heavy

  • Revert dome shield nerf
  • Revert mesh shield nerf
  • Allow goo gun to trap enemy trophies, enemies you hit center mass or on zip lines. Enemies hit in the air lose momentum.
  • Zero damage from Winch, increase range, allow enemies to shoot while being pulled in.
  • Increase gravity cube duration (and cooldown proportionally) and radius. Decrease horizontal travel speed for enemies so they feel stuck.
  • Fix barricade placement on uneven surfaces.
  • Significantly reduce KS23 reload time.
  • Significantly decrease Lewis recoil and damage.
  • Increase M60 damage and drop off modifier, decrease range.
  • Significantly increase spear alt radius or replace with a distance closing corckscrew staff slam or the ability to throw it 10-15m

Medium

  • Pike: fire rate nerf, significantly decrease hip fire accuracy, revert damage nerf.
  • Buff FCAR recoil, Buff damage, nerf firerate.
  • Buff Famas range
  • Buff AK firerate, nerf range 25m min, 35m max,
  • Buff turret radius and engagement time, nerf health.
  • Fix Demat: increased depth, revert radius. Allow us to select multiple tiles to open at once. Increase to 4 charges.

Light

  • Revert XP Nerf
  • Increase radius of vanishing bomb so it’s easier to conceal the whole team.
  • Allow lights to stay cloaked while rezing a teammate.
  • Increase range of V9S
  • Make Glitch Grenades explode on contact with enemy equipment and increase radius.
  • Allow hook to grab teammate trophies. Decrease CD. Allow users to stay planted where they latch.
  • Buff smoke grenades, increase radius and significantly increase thickness.
  • decrease sonar radius, increase ping frequency.
calm crystal
quick coyote
#

Cash out with zombies would be terrifying especially if they could parkour like volatiles from dying light and when you put the cash out in it makes an alarm drawing them near the building

dense marlin
#

Remove hidden deadzone and add outer deadzone slider to controller aka console

violet elbow
#

no

surreal meadow
#

i play powershift
i see 5 M, 3 M1887 - 1 Pike - 1 ? & 4 heal beam + 1 ?
i leave powershift

raw blaze
rapid fossil
#

i have this weird glitch where i cant see the destruction.

slender pine
#

spawn logic is horrific in this game.... if i have a cashout in, I shouldn't spawn 150m away, even (ESPECIALLY) if 2 teams are fighting over it

novel summit
ocean parrot
#

PLEASE JUST KILL SWORD

wise jolt
#

trip med LOL

lapis gyro
#

Tried everything I can to get a quality, non-dualsense gyro aim setup working in The Finals but I'm giving up. Sucks having to put this game down but I can't keep putting literal hours into troubleshooting problems only around because the developers seem to have blocked the solution. idk if there's a clause saying you have to block DS4Windows support if you work with Sony on native controls or if that app is just falling to bits, but Steam Input has too many issues to serve as a replacement for the great implementation included in-game.

restive crescent
#

one thing that MUST be looked at as a priority at top of anything (skins or even updates) is PERFORMANCE

the game had a weird and bizarre performance drop between launch and open beta

on open beta a pc with the same setup as mine would run the game on the 150-160 average

this video = https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egZlDW9_2Nk shows the game running at 1440p on ultra on the 130's average (same specs as mine)

now my pc, which had no changes since the beta, runs the game on the average of 90-100, with HUGE drops when everything starts to fall down, performance improvements are top priority, i would but it even above anti cheat and common updates, with a better performance, more pcs can start running the game in a more smooth way, bringing new players with lower end pcs

heres my specs:
RYZEN 5 5600
RX 5700 XT OC
16 GB 3200 RAM

this is a recent video with a worst cpu (4500) on syshorizon, that is BY FAR the most optimized map in the game because of its square building and lack of "things" on the map, even tough its running on 100 fps average with huge frame drops https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22xoBTMuFlA

not to mention the bizarre framedrop difference, its even worst when you look the game is with the graphics quality on medium instead of ultra, and its running on 1080p instead of 1440p

YouTube
Galicious Gamerz
The Finals : RX 5700 XT + I3 12100F : Ultra Graphics

🛠PC SPECS🛠
🟱 CPU : Intel Core I3 13100f
🟱 GPU : AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT MECH OC
🟱 RAM : Kingston Fury Beast RGB 16GB (2x8GB) 3200MHz DDR4
🟱 MOTHERBOARD : MSI PRO H610M-E DDR4
🟱 HDD : Seagate 4TB
🟱 SSD : Samsung 750 EVO 250GB
🟱 Power Supply: ASUS ROG STRIX 550W

▶ Play video
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Noah's Gaming PCs
RX 5700 XT + Ryzen 5 4500 - THE FINALS - 1080p medium settings

RX 5700 XT + Ryzen 5 4500 - THE FINALS - 1080p medium settings

RX 5700 XT 8GB GDDR6 (by GPVHOSO) //// ASRock A520M-HDV AMD AM4 mATX Motherboard //// AMD Ryzen 5 4500 Renoir 3.6GHz 6-Core AM4

#rx5700xt #Ryzen54500 #theFINALS

▶ Play video
lethal fog
#

Can I please not lose points if one of my teammates doesn't join the game? This keeps happening and I'm forced to lose 1k+ because it's impossible to 2v3., it's just unfair

rain mango
#

Can there please be a one person limit for defibrillator and healing beam, its so frustrating eliminating 2 people on a team and then fighting them 2 seconds later and they are on full health. it would also change the ranked meta of running triple medium with 3 defibs and 3 healing beams. ( like a loser ) Almost every team i see in ranked has 2 mediums with defib and healing beam or 3 mediums running the same. Or if multiple people on a team can heal just reduce the amount the healing beam heals per second and give defib a longer cool down or something. i just want something to change cause its getting really annoying dying and losing to the same lame meta of triple defib healing mediums.

deep summit
#
  • nerf model
  • Fix performance, revert it back it was alright and now it’s worse
  • Better anti cheat or more competent support team to ban cheaters
proper torrent
#

I like the triple heal meta :3

old minnow
#

Huntsman
120 damage
37 RPM
5 rounds
reload speed 4
60 m before fall off
(World War II style bolt action rifle)

tight ibex
#

They should nerf the sponsor required point. A lot of people will not be able to get all rewards even playing at least three hours per day.

rich sonnet
raw blaze
# tight ibex They should nerf the sponsor required point. A lot of people will not be able to...

I have put 50-70+ hours into this season and I am on the third page bruh. (It does make a grind tho! I lowkey kinda like it. A little nerf would be nice but god DAYAM is it a lil bit rough. Not too much tho, the grind is what makes it fun ngl!)

also @echo urchin I agree with most of those changes except for the range of the smoke, the density increase would prolly better benefit without making it a cloud

quick coyote
keen heath
#

Im hopping to see some spooky skins this week and next week

oblique oyster
#

For transparency sake: In the World Tour Overview, could you write out how much points reaching 2nd round/final/winning yields? Would make it easier to calculate how much you accually need to reach new goals.

rough storm
#

Nerf Model gang

lean tree
#

Nerf Model please

proud dagger
#

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neat yoke
#

can we get a model (and pike) nerf

smoky gust
#

Defib being uncontested is an issue of power, not lack of alternatives

If we add more options as strong as defib, we end up in a situation similar to pike and model
There is a choice, but everything else is a loss
And it doesnt change how inherently broken it is

And since its a gadget, it would actually be worse than the guns because they dont need to replace eachother, but can instead be stacked
Widening the gap between meta and variety/fun even more

Please nerf defib to be about as strong as the other gadgets

remote verge
rose verge
#

let me view my ping, for the last week its been difficult to find a game with less than a second delay which makes competitive gaming impossible, what a dumpster fire game to not even display a ping like every other game has allowed for the last 15 years, my last game had a full 2 second delay its not playable in this state fix your servers or let me see what my ping is so i can just leave and requeue

stone hazel
#

nerf model holy shit

old minnow
#

light

  1. Kimbo Mak-rov
    30 damage
    300 RPM
    16 rounds
    Reload speed 1.4
    35 m before fall off
    (Instead of ADS When you hold down the button that would typically ADS you dodge in whichever way you move via diving and rolling, and you can combo it infinitely with no cooldown as long as you hold down the button)

2.Vintage pistol
149 damage
18 RPM
1 round
Reload speed 2
50 m before fall off

3.Rail pistol
50-100
100 RPM
3 rounds
Reload speed 1.6
40-60 m before fall off
(Takes one second to fully charge. once charged can break small hole in the wall with 2 shots)

4.Fists
40 damage
200 RPM
Secondary
When you hold down the button you dodge in whichever way you move via diving and rolling, and you can combo it infinitely with no cooldown as long as you hold down the button

Specializations

1.Teleport
2 rounds
Refill speed 3
Empty refill speed 6
(When activated you hover in the air for one second an orb is traveling forward in front of you. You can teleport through walls when you release)

2.Recon census
duration 8
Refill speed 16
(when activated you can see the positions of everyone within a 70 m radius but everyone in that radius can also see your team but not you)

3.RC scanner
Drone HP 100
Refill speed 12
(when activated you drive a remote controlled drone that can automatically ping opponents for five seconds when scanned when player is damaged instantly disable specialization 0.2 tall 0.4 m wide)

Don’t nerf model

quick coyote
upper palm
#

NERF MODEL PLEASE

modest lotus
#

nerf defib please im going to end my life irl if i have to fight another tripple medium who spam defib chain this shit ruins the game fully

rich sonnet
upper citrus
#

nerf the model to 108 damage

wary dragon
#

Fix the ps5 glitch when you can see destroyed structures

ornate junco
#

TAKE THE TURRET OUT THE GAME

crisp heart
#

please add hud safe zone

left warren
#

Give lights a warning message when queuing up as a light just letting them know they're not him

rich sonnet
chrome basin
#

Are the servers down? Que says 2 min but weve been searching for 10 now...

fringe osprey
magic widget
#

I’ve noticed that, despite there being a lot of destruction, there really isn’t any player knockback weapons or gadgets, and i think it’d spice up the game. Here’s a couple ideas/changes based on this idea, as well as a couple other balance changes I’d like to see possibly next season (obv if all were added it’d be unbalanced, but if a couple were added i think it’d help it and spice up the meta):

Give sh1900 and model some recoil knockback. This would make the second follow-up shot harder to land for the model, and open up some extra movement options for the sh1900.

RPG, explosive mine, mgl32, and thermal bore could have knockback on the shot itself. The rpg could be then used for mobility (though health wise is risky) and prevent follow up shots from being as easy to land. For the mine, it could cause clever plays to knick people off or mitigate the damage if you slightly misjudge the range and barely trigger it (personally my #1 reason why I throw as a light lol). The mgl 32 could then be stronger in enclosed indoors (knock people off and launch enemies into bad positions/corners) and for risky mobility. Also, make it explode instantly if it hits an enemy before it bounces. For the thermal bore, it’d be a second gadget to interrupt steals without needing to blast the Cashout down (less stun guns) and differentiate it further from c4. Also, MOBILITY OH YEAH HOOH RAH.

Give the heavy slug shotgun slight pellet knockback based on how close it is, since it’ll help line up the second shot with minimal damage fall off.

New weapon idea: flintlock for light, less headshot/more bodyshot dmg/less bullet/slower fire rate medium revolver, but with lots of recoil knockback.

Buff spear swing speed
Glitch insta explosion on defibbed body and give glitch nade longer duration or bigger explosion vs barrel
Very slight model spread increase
Slight charge damage decrease
Honestly tho if no changes were made to the current meta it’d be fine

fading trail
#

Please add the ability to turn off crossplay with PC and maintain it with console, Warhammer has this feature for balance and fair play, so it's absolutely possible

ornate junco
#

@fringe ospreywhat game u playin?

round hornet
lapis elbow
#

the character classes shouldnt necessarily be based around 100hp differences. Lights are always worried about being two tapped and if need be the Light should get a small HP boost of 25-50 hp

surreal meadow
quick coyote
#

Game needs more punishment to players that purposely throw in ranked after 1 death.

fringe osprey
twilit sand
#

unerf fcar, ak, lewis, m60 and xp. You ruined the ranged gunplay skill expression. Thats why model is meta despite no changes since forever.

daring breach
#

Honestly my only problem with the game is Kyoto at the moment. Playing on a series S. Since the S4 update, Kyoto is unplayable. Performance is a garbage fire mess. Wasn’t an issue pre S4. It’s actually game ruining. Lag/frame drops to absurdly low levels. Even game resets don’t fix the issue

cursive geyser
#

Day 1 of asking for a model nerf

lapis elbow
short meadow
#

This games skill based match making gonna make me crash out: who the fuck gets thrown into a gold/plat team with literally three kills on their account. Bot walking like a fetus that just picked up a controller. Throwing grenades at walls & standing in Gas with 50hp.

I'm glad new people are joining, but for the love of God put them all in their own fucking tutorial lobbies.

dreamy ore
#

you really need to keep nerfing light class further. is so tiresome all the time fight those scumbag, is the most used class and the dash+knifes dash+shotgun , etc make unearable the experience. I had to fight an entire team of light with dash, and those fucker keep trowing knives with no consequences, disadvantage or cooldown. meanwhile I with a 6 shot revolver weaker that v9s pistol. is sickening how you treat the light class.

The dash superpower need a longest cooldown or something, the v9s need a shorter effective range.

daring fossil
#

stop back-filling me in games where im on the only team without a cashout, missing team mate/s and is more than half way through the 3rd cashout.

stone hazel
#

light invis ability is so boring to fight against we already haVe vanish bomb please remove the invis ability

terse oxide
#

For some positive feedback, I can say without a shred of doubt in me that the dematerializer is my favorite ability in any fps. This thing is the fucking bee's bollocks and the dog's knees. I've never had more fun than with the S4 version of this thing

upper citrus
#

It’s kinda cool how the pike is almost the best weapon in the game on paper but the model is still meta over it due to how hard it breaks the cqc weakness of heal medium

worn badge
#

While the finals has great cosmetics and customization, I would love to see skins outside of the finals universe. Add crossovers!!!

coral forum
tough crater
#

this game really needs like a tdm

limpid sky
#

triple medium needs to be banned, the difference between 2 mediums and 3 defib 3 model 3 heal is fighting about 7 players for 1 team

quick coyote
#

“I have a dream
 that one day model will be nerfed” - Martin Luther King Junior

woven dagger
hollow valve
# restive crescent one thing that MUST be looked at as a priority at top of anything (skins or even...

I suspect embark cut the budget and lowered the server computing power. Remember what they said destruction runs on server. If the server doesn't give your pc enough data to compute/in time, the frame rate wouldn't go high. I always see my CPU half loaded.

@restive crescent Guess we are not the same
And if stutter when mass destruction, then refer to what I said, it's definitely a server issue.

restive crescent
warm cliff
#

This game needs a competitive tdm

rough storm
#

How about we buff the Model 1887 ammo to 420 and make it fully automatic with poisoned bullets?

Edit: and ofcourse double the damage

upper citrus
#

Praying I wake up to a pike and model nerf

@frank holly AK and FCAR are both perfectly fine weapons when not up against the pike or model. Fcar just needs some cleaning up on the recoil

frank holly
#

Or we could make it so the AK and FCAR can actually do their job...

@upper citrus The AK and FCAR can't kill at medium to long range. The recoil and damage fall off are so aggressive that the enemy can easily get behind cover and heal up. Now since we aren't getting kills at the medium to long range, everything eventually becomes cqc anyway. Now what weapon is good at cqc?? Oh i know, the Model. So why wouldn't everyone start using the model now that the rifles are shit?

rapid stream
ornate junco
#

need a sword nerf or removal for all i care

viscid raft
# ornate junco need a sword nerf or removal for all i care

are you just, bad?
sword has been fine since ob, only because light doesnt have anything unbalanced right now the funnest weapon is ""broken""
reddit logic
@pearl quartz dying and waiting 20 seconds after a instawipe isnt fun
was getting nuked in s1 fun?

pearl quartz
#

#MakeEverythingOP If All Is OP None Is OP Nerfing Is What Kills Games There Supposed To Be FUN! @viscid raft Why You Attack Me As Soon As I Put 1 Thing Man You Cant Be This Mad Over A Fun Game Come On

foggy wave
#

Why is it my fault losing 1500 points in ranked tournaments when the game doesn't give a third teammate most of the time?
Or when someone quits!!!
Why do I lose!!!
And when I quit mid round and there's no third what so ever from the start... I still get a penalty and lose points
In 30 minutes I lose 5000 points and NONE OF IT IS MY FAULT

Can u make a loss forgiveness system please?
If u are missing a teammate u don't lose points
Just like Apex Legends

PLEASE IT'S REALLY FRUSTRATING

viral stump
#

For everyone whining about swords, just play heavy. They dive you and pretty much insta die to RPG plus a few shots, yeah it's a bit stressful having this guy dash around you but in reality, you have plenty of time between dashs to kill them. If you are medium, run glitch and 1887 and you win. Another note is just don't panic.. stay calm and you will likely win the engagement purely off HP difference if you can hit your shots.

tranquil condor
#

Please revert the XP-54

valid cradle
#

Devs should be embarrassed how bad the state of this game is currently. Servers are so bad I can’t even play. Constant teammates just leaving tournaments and the most dogshit balancing I’ve ever seen. This game has to be a social experiment. There’s no way it’s real. The amount of potential this game has is massive and the devs are literally throwing it out the window. Can’t wait for tomorrow’s update full of a big giant Nothing Sandwich ℱ đŸ«Ą but don’t worry they’ve been hard at work creating a canned corn charm and adding a pumpkin head to the store.

quick coyote
#

Fix the way cash is earned. Team wipes back to 30% in ranked.

I just plugged and won 2 cash outs in a row, but last place team gets pushed through because first place team doubles and lets them win, how is that ranked and skilled

small spruce
somber axle
frosty trout
#

burst weapon meta for all three classes turned off my entire crew from the game this week. it really just isnt a fun time for casuals.

shrewd oriole
#

Buff spear
Nerf Charge damage from C&S
Buff MGL
Buff Mesh Shield
Buff both heavy shotguns.
Bring back heavy build's glory.

woven dagger
versed cloud
#

Double barrel does more damage than sword lunge and is a 1 hit KO on light, meanwhile the sword requires landing a lunge melee combo to kill a single light and do 150 damage. Doesn't seem OP to me at all

junior viper
#

Pls give lights rpg, please give heavy grappling hook and please give medium barricade

tribal spoke
#

Dual Blades: Fix the reflect, buff the damage per second, buff its chase potential, please and thanks

old minnow
#

Controversial changes

Before you yell at me, I believe this could actually make the game a lot better more creativity equals more fun, keeping the game alive longer

Melee Weapons

Dual blades
Increase the range and accuracy of which it can deflect make it so if you hit a critical hit, you take no damage the final slash is now activated by holding down mouse one or right trigger and does 120 damage each consecutive hits deal an extra 10 damage

(All secondary abilities are now activated by holding down left click or right trigger.
And all melee weapons can now block they cannot block bullets. They take 50% less damage from each other. Excluding dagger, knuckle, dusters fists, this weapons cannot be blocked or block but they can be Perryed
Riot shield cannot parry)

Perry it allows you to stun your enemy and take no damage the last for 0.5 Seconds You can also Perry bullets, but you still take damage unless it’s dual blades you cannot spam Perry if you block there’s a cool down for Perry ing for 0.4 seconds if you are perryed you can still move You just can’t attack

restive crescent
#

make things spooky tomorrow or im quiting the game

crude brook
#

let me react in this channel again!!!1!!1!1!11

limpid sky
#

can you PLEASE BALANCE SPAWNING? Its 12v3, there is never a single time that 2 teams are on 1 cashout. Never. This is impossible, the spawning system spawns every single team on one cashout. There needs to be a cashout density radius and spawns to even out the game. its every single team always on 1 cashout

obtuse ravine
tropic root
frosty trout
unique wasp
#

It would be very cool if Light had access to an instant breach tool. Heavy has RPG/charge and slam/sledge, medium has demat, all of light's options are on a delay, which makes them harder to use aggressively or in clutch scenarios. It feels kind of insane that Medium in a lot of situations has better mobility indoors than the squishy evasive flanker class.

cold bolt
#

spawns are still the worst they've ever been, I am begging you to just go back to spawning teams across the map rather than alternating two teams' spawns on the same cashout 30m away without time for defenders to even regen meanwhile other cashout gets theirs free

spawn weighting isn't even a thing, I've had ppl spawn ON ME as I tried to manipulate the spawn

mortal notch
rough herald
round hornet
# tropic root I've seen AK/FCAR team wipes and kills in mid/long ranges especially in fortune ...

The fact that people can get value out of them doesn't necessarily mean they aren't underpowered, which they are. People pop off like that with the revolver, which is a much worse gun. Ak/Fcar are easier and more reliable so you see it more often.

More to the point, the famas is objectively better than both of those guns and has been since season 3. Once pike and model are nerfed it's probably the only gun you'll see on medium unless all the rifles are suitably adjusted.

I would like to make it clear I do believe both model and pike should be nerfed. Just with embark's tendency towards absolutely destroying things (xp54 and mesh shield just in recent memory) I am worried about the state of medium's weapon variety.

raw blaze
#

you cannot out kill a model with a famas, it's not possible, i'm convinced.

green barn
#

Add a standby mode in the lobby and give the option to choose the soundtrack in the game settings

thick sorrel
#

Nerfing XP-54 and V9S before Pike and Model speaks volumes. DEVs never look into this channel - maybe for a Minute, seeing Impersonator's weird suggestions, shake their head and leave...

old minnow
#

Can someone from embark actually reply to these?

fossil hull
#

pls make color variations for the battle pass hairs.. .

mortal notch
#

change defib to make the revive timer different for certain classes for example-light 3s-med-5s-heavy-6/7s. also nerf pike/model-buff xp to 18dmg and increase dmg fallof.

ionic tusk
#

Day 5 of asking for Mitch Murder collab

tough kiln
#

Why does the heavy charge do so much damage? I thought this was supposed to be a competitive game?

daring fossil
daring ravine
quaint forge
#

PLEASE GIVE ME TEAMMATES HOLY CRAP

desert trail
#

Omg please fix Seoul on PS5. I noticed it seems fine for the PC players that are shooting me through what appears to be floors/ceilings for me; never knowing if I'm running on a solid surface... It's seriously rage inducing.

tiny parrot
#

Devs fix yall game y is the whole building falling apart and on my screen I can’t see the destruction the buildings look normal but it’s actually all broke I lost ranked games cuz I can’t see what’s going on fix yall game u got me losing games

jagged cedar
halcyon vault
#

YOU GOT TO FIX THE DESTRUCTION ITCHES ON PS5. FALLING THROUGH WALLS THAT ARE THERE, GETTING STUCK ON INVISIBLE WALLS.

versed hazel
#

I dont think objects should spontaneously explode when I walk into them. please fix the destruction and turn it down a bit.

also delete kyoto already

old minnow
analog hearth
#

In the new season, it has become simply impossible for me to play. Why do I fight against cyberathletes in every game? Why do I always play against players who have already reached emerald 1? And my team only has guys from lower ranks? And there are also AFK players in almost every game on my team. This is some kind of nightmare. The game used to be quite fun, but now it's some kind of jar with spiders. Totally sweat, zero fun. I haven't played ranked games yet, only world tour. My usual score now after a match looks like this: kills 1-3 deaths 8-13. I win a tournament approximately once every 30-50 games. This is a nightmare. If a matchmaking system by skill, or by current rank, or by kills/deaths, or by wins/losses, or by something else is not introduced to make the game at least a little easier, I must say that I'm probably ready to say goodbye to this game.

mortal notch
#

Fix Kyoto or fucking remove it’s unplayable on Xbox and literally a slide show I get like 3 fps

daring fossil
rugged temple
#

Model and pike nerf.

sharp bolt
alpine elm
#

Embark pleas fix the tutorials . I’ve been forced to read them for the 15th time in a row

old minnow
#

Add back nukes, but make it so moving explosives do you half the damage and explode in one shot

#Add back nukes

autumn sedge
glacial sierra
#

do something about XIM users 😐

abstract patio
#

I desire a disable pop up button, I come back after not playing for months after reaching level cap shortly after launch, I don't need a reminder pop up for every single thing when I'm at level 57....

Please add a disable pop-up button

violet elbow
#

  • changing defib to a spec is stupid

  • nerfing defib is stupid

  • adding a team cooldown to defib is stupid

  • what isnt stupid is removing the 2 absurdly high burst damage weapons (Model and Pike) from the support class, so you arent encouraged to stack support utility without sacrificing ANY kind of damage potential.

how do you people see triple support having the best guns in the game and your Solution is to nerf the Support tools? it just doesnt make sense, triple medium was never an issue until Model and Pike.

solemn linden
keen abyss
minor notch
brittle obsidian
#

can't wait for the sword giganerf and 7th 93r recoil buff tomorrow

trim charm
#

Can we get a Flamethrower skin where it's just a wizard's staff and it belches fire?

sage sonnet
quick lodge
#

Sword needs a longer charge up for the stab attack

drifting atlas
#

Buff my randoms ffs! I'm tired of my mic-less teammates wasting time and dying, then bringing me down, then up, then down again.

mortal notch
thick sorrel
# violet elbow - changing defib to a spec is stupid - nerfing defib is stupid - adding a team ...

Nerf Pike, Model AND a little bit Defib - to allow diversity in Loadout choices. Gadget Cooldown on Defibbed Players or no healbeam stacking leads to lower pickrates because 1 healer per team is than enough.

I don't understand why you die hard defend the Defib.

@round hornet Logic mistake: The next best gadget would lock the 3rd gagdet slot to eternity.

Read my text again. If gadgets don't stack their effect Defib/Healbeam only 1 Medium per Team need to dedicate as Healer, while the others can support in other ways or maybe play a different class as originally intended. For example do 3 Mediums need 3 jumpads or can 1 Medium pick Ziplane? Allowing Defib chaining will always lead to 3 Mediums with 3 Defibs.

@violet elbow 3x Defib Teams were all the seasons before already a problem.

Now with dominating Pike/Model more Players pick Medium which shows the issue even more.

Fighting 3 Mediums with Defibs is fighting against 1125 HP and more with healbeam!

There is a reason why heavys shield got constantly nerfed.

Do you think Lights movement skills can keep up? I don't think so. Otherwise Ranked Team comps wouldn't be MM M/H.

DPS is very close over all classes while Health/Shield gadgets increases the HP gap even more.

I'm speaking facts, unfortunately DEVs will never know.

round hornet
narrow spade
# violet elbow - changing defib to a spec is stupid - nerfing defib is stupid - adding a team ...

While the medium weapons current strength are as dumb as a 5 year old that just shoved crayons up their nose so far that it reached their brain and gave them a lobotomy (this is Homer Simpson), defib is really annoying. I think the best change to it you could make is having holos disappear if you wipe the team before they come back. Essentially negating this post-mortem state teams often get in, which is really annoying.

unborn garnet
#

anyone know whats going on here

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onyx crystal
uneven mountain
#

Bring back 48 player tournaments OR 96 player tournaments (tournament royale)

old minnow
#

I think this would truly change up the game and make it alive forever

Abilities

Abilities are a substitute for gadgets you can unequipped your gadgets to equip two passive abilities

The way you would equip these abilities would be by pressing the upwards arrow button above the first gadget, and it would swap to abilities and do unequipped abilities press the down arrow next to the ability to swap back to gadgets this can only be done in the menu

The way you were unlock these you go to equip an ability and press a ? And it would give you a random ability this cost 1000 VRs

Heavy
1.Plated protector
+100 HP But start regenerating 2 seconds later

2.Heavy-handed
range weapons deal 30% more damage
melee weapons deal 15% more damage
Shotguns deal 10% more damage
No ADS or secondary’s

3.Healthy head
Gain five HP per elimination in a row

4.Rapid succession
decrease the amount of time you have to wait for your specialization by 40%

5.Long legs
Run faster than a light and reload 2x faster but at the cost of 100 HP

6.Butcher
Lose 35% of your speed gain 40% damage

7.Tank
+200 HP start regenerating two seconds later lose 20% of your movement speed

Medium
1.Plated protector
+100 HP But start regenerating 2 seconds later

2.Heavy-handed
range weapons deal 30% more damage
melee weapons deal 15% more damage
Shotguns deal 10% more damage
No ADS or secondary’s

3.Healthy head
Gain five HP per elimination in a row

4.Rapid succession
decrease the amount of time you have to wait for your specialization by 40%

5.Insanity
Do 10% more damage and move 20% faster every elimination in a row, but lose 5% of your HP with every elimination
(stops when you reach 100 HP)

6.Elimination streak
Do 5% more damage with every elimination in a row

7.Lifesaver
Revive 60% faster

8.Swift hunter
Deal 15% more damage

9.Butcher
Lose 35% of your speed gain 40% damage

Light
1.Raw deal
lose 50 HP but move faster than light itself
(Plus%70 speed)

2.Speed Demon
With every elimination in a row gain 10% speed

3.Great sacrifice
The time between you can use your specializations is 30% longer, but you gain 50% speed

4.Elimination streak
Do 5% more damage with every elimination in a row

5.Spider climb
stick to walls and climb 2x faster then a ladder

6.Lazy light
Standstill to quickly recharge your specializations
(This works while you’re using cloaking device)

7.Rapid succession
decrease the amount of time you have to wait for your specialization by 40%

8.Insanity
Do 10% more damage and move 20% faster every elimination in a row, but lose 5% of your HP with every elimination
(stops when you reach 80HP)

9.Swift hunter
Deal 15% more damage

10.Butcher
Lose 35% of your speed gain 40% damage

worn horizon
#

Buff c4 > Lower its cooldown by 8 seconds
Buff RPG > Lower its cooldown by 5 seconds
Buff Flamethrower > Make its rightclick a wider spread but less range
Buff Mesh shield > Remove the cooldown when taking 0 shield dmg
Buff/change spear rightclick > The current rightclick is not good and random, give it the ability to throw the spear and getting it back after X amount of seconds. Meanwhile you have your fists dealing like 50 Damage.
Buff Ks23 > Make reload a little faster

Buff/change Dematerializer to 2 charges and make it so that rightclick closes all open Walls on the map and Consumes NO charges, this makes this special way easier to use.
Buff Fcar by 1 damage to be more on the level with the AKM (this makes it better against M vs M but is probably the worse gun against heavy and lights)
Buff R.357 by giving it more range
Buff riot shield, crouch should cover your feet when blocking > this is the buff it really needs to be truly defensive
Buff Dual Blades > let me cancel the attacks by blocking and give the third doubleswing more damage and maybe a small dash with it

Buff 93r > Still a bad choice, make the burst delay a little Faster and give it 21 > 24 Ammo.
Buff M26 Matter > Little faster fire rate maybe even reduce its ammo by 1, depending on the buff
Buff Xp54 > More ammo or More range (right now it heals the enemy)
Buff v9s Range a tiny bit to compensate its rawr dps loss
Buff LH1, give it 48 > 49 damage. this makes it so that tracking dart combos well with the lh1
Buff Glitch Grenades, give it 8 second duration and let it destroy the Defib Hologram (like it does to dome shield)
Buff Smoke Grenade by lowering its cooldown a bit, its very very long cooldown

violet elbow
glacial knot
opaque glade
#

Quality of life change for the dual blades: Please increase the blocking radius to cover the legs a bit more by a few cm and to increase the bullet reflecting to the target by a few cm :))

true harness
#

Had several hard lock-ups/crashes on the PS5. Game was completely frozen, and wouldn't un-freeze, so I had to exit the whole thing.

polar shell
#

Hax everywhere again, pls fix

night vortex
#

Buff GooGun

@silk shadow
And buff goo gun

verbal bane
#

Another day in this channel, and another dozen noskills whining about defibs, and begging for nerfs of weapons that don't need it.

Embark, please don't listen to these fools.

silk shadow
#

Embark, please beat panther_modern to death with hammers

proven crown
#

The animations for light sword and heavy sledge when you're up against them with less than ideal ping is such a HORRIBLE experience, I actually wish these weren't in Ranked

dull kettle
#

Please fix the errors where the wall is still there but it’s not

thick sorrel
#

Update 4.2.0

Pike-556

Decreased damage from 59 to 52
Dev Note: On reviewing data it’s become apparent that the Pike was fairly overturned in our 4.0 release and this adjustment is intended to move it to a more reasonable place. We suspect it may still be too effective in too many different use cases, so we’ll continue to review the impact of this change and adjust in later patches if we feel more balancing is needed.

TTK is just the same LOL. Let me guess:
Update 4.4.0

Pike-556

Decreased fire rate from 200 RPM to 199 RPM

DEVs wondering why the Players are still upset

onyx crystal
#

Dash - Buff
Grapple - Balanced
Cloak - Buff

Healing Beam - Balanced
Turret - Balanced
Dematerialiser - Balanced

Charge N Slam - Nerf
Winch Claw - Nerf
Goo Gun - Balanced
Mesh Shield - Buff

Don't care to say how much to buff

sacred sluice
#

once again i am here begging for leaver penalties in quickplay

weary aurora
mortal notch
torpid sky
fading wadi
#

why am i queuing ranked solo for 6+ min only to be matched with the actual worst players online gaming has seen since splatoon

dense ocean
#

day 39 asking embark
let console players able/disable HUD

night vortex
#

Buff Pike and Model. If the others get to keep their crutches then I want mine to be even better.

Make Kyoto run even worse.
Buff Defibs.
Make low gravity the standard.
Nerf Heavy and Light more.
Bring back the buff CL40

Run this dumpster fire in to the ground.

north coyote
#

nerf medium swords

versed hazel
silk shadow
#

I think the model should have a headshot multiplier, the pike should be able to equip a laser sight to tighten up the hipfire. Defib should buff revived players with movement speed and ammo. And fartferrari should be IP banned

earnest fossil
#

Ask for Crossplatform text chat

dense marlin
#

Remove hidden deadzone and add outer deadzone slider to controller aka console

wraith orchid
#

embark please make one big balance patch and get consulting of top 500 players first (at least one main of every class, and let them discuss with you and each other at the same table)
instead of doing minor patches each week that are dissapointing for the most players because everyone hopes for smth else.

Dude, it would even be better if you shut down the game completely for 2 weeks or so just to invest all your resources in proper balancing.
AND im sure this would crate big hype in the communtity (which also means you have to deliver then)

BUT small patches every week are in my opinion unhealthy for the game bc desperate gamers get hyped every week and camp in the discord just to get dissapointed in 8/10 times.

(the dissapointment is logical bc every gamer mains different playstyles so you cant make the majority happy with them small ass patches😐

still LOVE❀

lost talon
#

if you leave after the rematchmaking period ends in 5v5 games you should be forced into unfinished games the next time and it should keep happening until you finish your games, that's the least punishment that you can dish out

wispy axle
#

Small Little Suggestion: Make all the in game company promos Halloween themed. Like making Quembly Rutile wear a Jack o Lantern for a head etc. if it isn't planned already

fading cliff
#

Please fix Seoul 2023 map. Its broken... I play on Playstation and it always freezes and forces you to quit ever since season 4 came out. It also has some major bugs that causes people to fall through ceilings that aren't broken but appears to be broken for people who play on different platforms. This has been going on for way too long already.

marble crane
bitter snow
tame valve
#

Started ranked game
With only one teammate
Teammate left
I was alone
Ranked number 1 seed
How am I supposed to play a ranked game alone
I left
I got a restriction

lost talon
#

great idea, there should be restricted randomized loadouts as well for casual modes for each gadget slot and the main rifle. It should tell you what the loadout will be when the respawn timer starts. Or maybe just pre made loadouts that the randomizer can cycle through.

copper zodiac
#

Please fixed the glitching

mortal notch
#

Make goo gun goo deal dmg on impact
Trust

mystic delta
#

Please fix ranked crossplay (Xbox and PlayStation crossplay is prioritised first, then console and pc is 2nd prioritised)

Playing as a PlayStation ranked player, I’m constantly against unfair, hackers and players with way greater advantages (higher fps, kb&m, etc)

gleaming tide
#

Release update.

obsidian ginkgo
vivid finch
#

Bring back mesh shield , Bored of only Charge slams

tame valve
obsidian grail
#

Here hoping to see Model nerfed

torpid sky
#

imagine they nerf sword before model and pike

mortal notch
timber sedge
broken herald
#

nerf model1887

vernal ridge
#

Niche weapons like the ks-23, dual blades, should get buffs, they are not worth to play unless you get really good on them as I saw sometimes on the heavy chat with the ks-23 but that's rare and they are just outclassed by other weapon, they should be more efficient, especially dual blades, they just don't have enough damage to be good, the weapon concept is cool but the weapon itself is just not great.

sturdy abyss
#

I have been playing since season one, completed every single weekly challenge and battle pass. Even when everyone cried about have to win a tournament.
This 1 million dollar challenge is honestly ridiculous. Especially since not every game mode gives you cash value towards it. I play primarily powershift with friends. I play very little cash out or bank it anymore because my friends want to play as well. This honestly is probably one of the most disappointing things I have seen so far. The reward doesn’t even justify it either. The amount of game time required to earn that much money for a weapon skin is simply too much.

torpid sky
quick coyote
#

Cannot play with party. Keep getting matchmaking error

tropic root
#

I think one of the issues on why many people think defibs are strong and lights are "not meta" in WT or in ranked tournament is because of the limited respawn coins mechanic.

mortal notch
#

It’s great you guys are making steps to gain new players (please make more ads etc)
But the lack of new content to change the dynamic of the game is so sad (specs and gadgets) many devoted players who love this game may not mind the lack of new content (I do we got one new gadget last season and zero specs this season it’s just disappointing af) new players that joined in s3 won’t stay with the game if we don’t get new gadgets and specs (or good meaningful content) In s5
Also nerf pike/model
@lost talon i literally said meaningful content read the hole suggestion

lost talon
tacit mist
#

when to update?

bright wraith
#

add surrender Button in S5 , 2v3v3v3 in rank is waste

jagged knot
#

No update today?

sudden tangle
#

PLEASE ADD DIFFERENT BALANCE FOR COMPETITIVE AND CASUAL. YOU WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO BALANCE COMPETITIVE AND CASUAL BECAUSE OF INHERENT CLASS DIFFERENCES. HERE ARE MY RECOMMENDATIONS FOR COMPETITIVE SINCE CASUAL IS WHAT YOU FOCUSED ON AND IS IN A GOOD SPOT RIGHT NOW:

changes for comp:

revert double barrel to season 1

buff matter damage, fire rate and/or range

buff v9s damage and range

revert lh1 range nerf

revert xp s4 nerf

increase m11 dmg

revert stun gun indicator change and make it so it blocks gadgets again (defib nerf)

make glitch destroy defib holograms (defib nerf)

make sniper hitscan again

do all of these and light will be able to compete with with the other two classes in the meta

revert dome shield hp nerf

revert s4 mesh cd and hp nerf

reduce rpg damage to 50, increase destruction damage range

make healbeam not stack healing on same target

make defib a team wide cooldown

nerf pike hipfire and/or nerf pike damage upclose (inverse of damage falloff)

with these changes you will get as close as you can to a meta that includes L.

right now L is useless.

night bone
#

Ok Bro, bye bye đŸ„±

foggy orbit
#

remove thermal vision from ranked, it has always served to be a massive crutch against cloak and takes away all the skill expression

mental hatch
#

Fix your anticheat guys, game full of rage cheaters and xim users, rage cheaters boost people to top10 it’s absolutely insane. U do nothing to competitive part of this game

ionic saddle
#

Take this fucking "hit people with throwables" challenge out of the fucking game

dense marlin
#

Remove hidden deadzone and add outer deadzone slider to controller aka console

wind meteor
wooden kelp
#

Can we get a replay camera.

Maybe there is concerns, it will reduce the time for a person to choose weapons, but it will be cool to make a lil box to the left or right of the screen that highlights the game sponsors and show a quick replay of how you died labeled as a kill highlight or something.

Sometimes its just worth seeing who sniped u or what they did before killing you, or just to see how you perform from their PvP in the 1v1

I just feel this is needed in a gameshow style game

mortal notch
#

Bring back unique mechanics
Eg:being able to qm a breach charge
Being able to fly with barricades and goo
Goo has just been stripped of all its tech please just bring back some of the unintended fun stuff

broken herald
#

nerf model1887

echo panther
#

no update today?

mild hatch
#

i think the swing attack of the sword need a little buff because 5 hits to kill the heavy, 4 hits to kill a medium and 3 hits for a light, i think it's little to much. If we increase the dmg to 88 max , 88dmg, i think it more balance because it 4 hits to heavy, 3 to the medium and 2 for the light. Say like this, it seem too strong for the light but the sword has a very big and natural disadvantage against the other light weapon and other light skill because the sword can be really use only with the dash,for example the graplin has advantage compare to dash, so with this buff i think the sword will be a little better, more simple to use but not overpower

merry creek
#

Change crossplay to off = console only
On = PC lobbies

sturdy abyss
#

You’re really coming to a feedback chat to say I’m complaining. Also you obviously didn’t even read the post you replied to. My issue is that game modes like power shift give you no money. Not a little bit. So that tells me you have little experience and shouldn’t be commenting anyways.
As for world tour you still obviously don’t read, I have friends that play with me. Most of the time 5 people and have people waiting. You can only play powershift and terminal attack. Get your facts straight before you try to come at someone again

sullen berry
#

Add HUD opacity slider and HUD centering for ultra wide monitors, it’s easy to implement and so useful for oled enjoyers to avoid burn in

thorny lynx
swift heron
#

We need new game modes and Events. Something like a random loadout Mode, gun game, free for All death match or anything arcade style like those modes

vestal igloo
#

nerf model and sword omfg

summer citrus
#

Embark please stop teaching player how to play the game, listen to people and stopping doing stuffs that we don't understand

vernal path
#

Plz give turret higher caliber rounds, tracking darts, homing missiles and an automated boxing glov 👀

unkempt bane
#

We need update

fickle linden
#

-feedback

spiral lightBOT
#
Feedback channel FAQ

⭐ What is this channel for?
Constructive feedback (positive and negative) and suggestions about the game.
⭐ What is not meant for this channel?
Bug reports (see #1201841543926005810), cheater reports (please make them in-game or send them to support). Spam, toxicity and messages intended to troll/bait will be removed.
⭐ Do devs read this channel?
Yes, the channel is read and tracked. However, the dev team will rarely react or respond directly.
⭐ Should I ping anyone to leave feedback?
No, just drop it here. We can handle it! Please also avoid pinging Embarkers (blue roles) - it will not get your feedback to them faster.

limpid rampart
#

EMBARK ! GIVE US BACK THE BUNNY BURROW EMOTE AND MY LIFE IS YOURS

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shy token
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As we can all see, THE FINALS' community is deeply passionate when it comes to concept art and making drip. Earlier this year we saw the switch away from exclusive bundle pricing to individual items now being made available for purchase. This alone allowed a great amount of customisation and personalisation of the game. But @shy token is back this time to argue the case for community driven input.

By allowing the community to create fan-made concepts and outfits using available items, TF has allowed its community to creatively flourish. However, we think, and there are others who have considered this idea as well within the community, that new community made items should be given the chance to be official and in-game.

This would not be the first time that such a thing exists in the world of gaming. Warframe's 'TennoGen' is one of the best examples of having the community be involved in the creative process. This engagement's potential is virtually limitless and invaluable for the game's longevity and community. It can be further sustained by giving the creator(s) a chance to be awarded through a variety of ways, in combination or merely by themselves:
(a) recognition,
(b) in-game or IRL payment,
(c) but most importantly a free (perhaps personalised) version of the very same item that will be immortalised in the world of TF.
(DAY 58)

remote verge
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what the fuck is this balance, nerf sledgehammer but dont touch sa12 or even the pike, @marble crane less than 3s time to kill for sa12 for all classes with holding left click and a quick melee

marble crane
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Sa1216 doesn’t need a nerf what r u talking about

spare mirage
#

Day 11 of asking to add an mp7 to the game

waxen citrus
#

Please just add an option for centering your HUD for higher aspect ratios. I don’t know why this is so difficult for you guys

neat yoke
#

CRAZY PATCH
GOO PLANE: REMOVED
PIKE AND MODEL: UNCHANGED

twilit sand
#

my god the balance team need to be axed. ruining the game every patch since season 2

mental hatch
#

U stupid guys idk, meta of model is already in game for 3 month and u don’t nerf it. Every fucking game 5 models in lobby, every fucking game shot(128)+melee.

glad yarrow
#

No model or defib changes... Another week of suffering

final solar
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no model no pike nerf is wild

red echo
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do devs play the game????

glacial knot
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Where are the crying babies ? OH No they didnt nerf the modell 😂 Baby don't cry, I hope you got your head up
Even when the road is hard, never give up

thorny trout
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what nerf did sledge get the notes confused me

valid cradle
#

We got a goo plane nerf before a sword nerf 😭😭😭

rapid stream
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Like fuck you embark idk

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grand agate
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This is getting ridiculous. I don't care about the model, pike, etc. When are we going to get a serious nerf to healing beam? I've said it 100 times. Make it so that (at the very least in ranked tournament) you can only have one healing beam per team. This sad meta of triple medium with healing beams and defib is getting so old. Do better so this great game doesn't die.

tawny oriole
violet elbow
#

nice balance patch, nerfed goo Planes and sledgehammer before model and pike.

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rough hinge
#

Out of touch studio lead joke of a update

wind meteor
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Guys, for the model, please realize that it had been the same since season 1. Nothing was buffed or nerfed.
Then, suddenly, since near the end of season 3, everyone wants it to be nerfed?
Some people are good at it and can get oppressive with it. But I assure you they can do the same with an AKM. I get the same kill count with both. The only reason you see it used a lot is that:

  • Everyone thinks it's free kills because of all the nagging here, so they're using it, although they're not good at it
  • The continuous nag on all medium's weapon in turn, made it that in some cases the model is better. First people nag about the famas, it gets nerfed, mediums use the fcar, people nag about the fcar, it gets nerfed, mediums use the akm, people nag about the akm... while in reality the model has never been buffed, but represent advantage for a safer play, which is very fitting for a support class.
ionic saddle
restive crescent
#

selling exclusive battle pass stuff on the store is insane

obsidian ginkgo
thick sorrel
#

Another week of pain - no Model or Pike balance...
Update 4.2.0

Pike-556

Decreased damage from 59 to 52
Dev Note: On reviewing data it’s become apparent that the Pike was fairly overturned in our 4.0 release and this adjustment is intended to move it to a more reasonable place. We suspect it may still be too effective in too many different use cases, so we’ll continue to review the impact of this change and adjust in later patches if we feel more balancing is needed.

TTK is just the same LOL. Let me guess:
Update 4.4.0 4.5.0

Pike-556

Decreased fire rate from 200 RPM to 199 RPM

DEVs wondering why the Players are still upset

hollow beacon
#

hey guys, need help

I looked for technical support about account security on the Embark website, but the support team hadn't replied for 4 days. I wonder where can i handle this issue on discord channel? Like which sub-channel can I get contact to support team directly?

Best regards!

glacial scaffold
#

Pls look at top 500 loadout, pike, model are big issues. Nearly no controller player as well in top 500.
Ranked isn't working for high MMR PlayStation player without crossplay.

gloomy anchor
#

Have Embark indicated there is any work being done to fix the problem of people leaving ranked games? Im about read to quit the game entirely due to losing 1500 RS a time every time someone quits and ruins the game. If a team member leaves the game should be rendered null with no RS change either way

next pike
quick coyote
#

What's the point of buying the battlepass if everythings just gonna be in the store later on in the road

acoustic frost
#

W FOR ADDING THE OLD BATTLE PASS SKINS!!!! HOPEFULLY I CAN GET THE BRIDE

mint sandal
#

WTF
Why S1 Skins in game again????
devs, r u really that stupid or it a bad joke noegg noegg noegg noegg

torpid sky
#

no way goo ship was removed before nerfing pike & model

noble sage
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why they aded alien in store???? this is BP skin S1. No exclusivity. Devs, are you drunk?

nimble siren
#

I’m just here to watch yall complain lol

raw bobcat
dusty totem
#

I appreciate the initiative to break FOMO practices by bringing back an season 1 battle pass exclusive skin, But I kinda wish the people who got the skin in battlepass early had something to show for it, like an exclusive style, would be a win win imo. (sorry for the shitty edit)

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boreal wagon
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~~Surely we will get pike and model nerf in 4.0

Surely we will get pike and model nerf in 4.1

Surely we will get pike and model nerf in 4.2

Surely we will get pike and model nerf in 4.3

Surely we will get pike and model nerf in 4.4~~

Surely we will get pike and model nerf in 4.5

smoky gust
#

im afraid were slowly phasing out cool, interesting and unique mechanics for little reason

nukes were overused and op, so removal was valid

but the goo plane was exceptionally rare, also because how niche its use and setup requirements actually were
being able to lift something with anti-gravity makes perfect sense in my eyes, this was just an advanced execution of this idea
it was not counter-intuitive, just using its full potential, which many didn't realise yet
and in the few cases it did see use, i dont think it was much of an issue, at most it was funny to see something this ridiculous happen
similar to how many players might respect a non-facestabbing dagger user that can make it work

it was a funny strat to do if you wanted to goof around with friends, but realistically, had minimal negative impact on everyone else
the removal of the goo plane is an over-all loss for the game, and i really hope its added back

untold locust
#

Would be nice to have weekly bans report similar to PUBG so we can see some action being taken against cheaters; would do good for moralemoji_150

teal bear
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Battle pass skin in the shop is a MASSIVE L.

Model and defibs and heal beam do not need a nerf pleas shut the fuck up about that.

@copper lark man cmon your pretty decent at the game. At this point the only nerf to defib and heal beam that makes sense is role lock.

Model only needs a range nerf not damage. Which won't change how it's played by all that much.
Open for pike nerfs but I'd rather see buffs than constant nerfs to strong things

ornate hemlock
#

It's time to take a week off, maybe it will help

copper lark
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Model, Pike, Defib, all these things need a nerf

silver anchor
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dont put any battel pass outfits into the store unless your going to compensate the players that got it through the battel pass its very cool of yall to be breaking FOMO trends but i just feel cheated (but then again yall did just put a limited item in the shop so)

mortal notch
vernal path
stable glade
#

We need to change the final round, make it more epic, it's so annoying to play, sad, this is the game name

dawn anchor
#

great even sledge Nerf before pike and v9s still didnt get rpm reduce

autumn warren
#

Embark!! Allow me to customize the colors of a lot of the skins! I doubt it would be super difficult and would allow me to make more perfect drip!

ocean creek
#

Why’s there battlepass skins in the store?

coral forum
#

I'm betting there is like 1-2 people in charge of the patch every week.

sullen berry
main knot
#

Back crossplay for console only, so maybe some ppl come back playing.

echo urchin
hard badger
#

I truly hope we get a LTM for halloween next week because otherwise I aint playing the same boring content over and over again... (The reason why I stopped playing this game is there is hardly no new content over the season...) Last new gamemode we got was in the half of season 2 and that was not my thing... Also where are all the LTMs ?

limpid rampart
#

two things

  1. there are two animal-like emotes from cb2 that were mysteriously removed in the open beta. Bunny Burrow (to the left) and another one whose name I can't remember.

  2. I understand that the model 1887 had not been touched or meta since season 1. Please do not factor that into your reasoning as to why it should not be considered for nerfs. Back in season two, some top players (most notably Gigz) could be seen religiously using the model 1887. The model was only overshadowed when T0 weapons (borderline OP) such as the pre-nerf FCAR and SA1216 were still in the game.

The model alone is not too great of a weapon in terms of TTK (especially in the hands of more casual players) but in higher elo, the weapon becomes too versatile and effective to be a shotgun that belongs to the medium class.

Please remember that the medium class has a number of extremely effective support items as well. I understand not wanting to force mediums to be support players, but MMM must come with some sort of downside. They have movement, damage, AND the ability to completely nullify death and damage. You must take something away from them for this to be okay.

LLL and HHH are completely unviable but MMM is okay? At the very least, in the next patch notes, please give us a dev note explaining your reasoning for not wanting to nerf medium.

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candid crystal
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You guys don't deserve to support a game with this much potential. You reach out to top players for comp support and do the exact opposite of what they say. Releasing S1 BP cosmetics in S4 for the price of two battle passes!? Fucking crazy. A sledge nerf before a meaningful pike and model meta change? Go back to making indie games.

dull kettle
river plover
rancid rover
#

Is seoul still broken ?

thorn kelp
#

Goo Plane is gone.

Thank you Embark for removing the fun things in this game and keeping the unfun, UNBALANCED shit that still lingers

echo panther
#

did they rly bring back exclusive skins from the battle pass in season 1? they should be (exclusive to that season) so when u dont have skins to bring out u release the lvl max skin from season 2 in the shop or whats going on

fading cliff
#

Yes seoul is still broken

deep summit
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  • Model nerf
  • BP skins in the item shop 🙅
fierce echo
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Is it serious that they released the alien skin again???? What a lack of respect with which you played the entire season 1 to get all the rewards. Wouldn't it be better to invent another skin??????? The alien's skin was unique!!! now it won't be anymore. They made a mistake again!

red arch
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fcar buff pls :((

midnight bison
#

To address the issue of players switching to high-latency servers due to long queue times, here is a proposed solution that includes both primary and secondary server options for a better player experience:

Primary Server (Low Ping Priority)
Players will automatically connect to the lowest-ping server in their region, ensuring optimal gameplay when enough players are available. The goal is to prioritize smooth, low-latency gameplay on active servers.

Secondary Server (Backup Option)
Players can manually select a secondary server in another region. If their primary server’s queue is too long, they’ll be connected to the secondary server to reduce wait times, even if it results in higher latency.

Benefits:
Reduced Latency: Players default to their low-latency primary server for better performance.
Flexibility: The secondary server option ensures faster matchmaking during low activity.
Healthier Servers: Encourages players to stay on local servers when possible, preventing "dead" servers.

Regions like South America are experiencing near-dead servers, with only one registered World Tour match this season and likely zero ranked matches on local servers
The problem stems from players moving to higher-populated, high-latency regions due to long queue times, further exacerbating the lack of local matches.
By implementing a primary and secondary server system, you can maintain healthy populations on local servers when available, while offering players the flexibility to avoid long waits during low activity periods. This would help revive struggling servers and improve the overall competitive experience.

naive pier
velvet moth
rapid stream
#

Remove cool shit > nerf op unfun shit

THANK YOU EMBARKKK!!!! 😁

vapid sequoia
#

If you are adding old battlepass skins atleast make them expensive, or wait for some season and then release it smh


wraith marsh
wraith orchid
#

no proper balance changes since 3 weeks is crazy to be honest. if youre cooking something big at least tell us to cool our minds down.

and if youre not, i have nothing to say😂

sudden tangle
#

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clown patch, embark doesnt care about competitive, and light being competitive. s4 is the last season i spend money on this casual freak game.

verbal bane
obsidian ginkgo
upper citrus
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  • Removed goo plane for being unintended and breaking the pacing

  • doesn’t nerf the model which has actively denied the ability to push teams of heal mediums and has been meta for 6 months now. GG

swift laurel
#

now that the precedent has been set that Embark will re release battlepass skins, give me the ability to complete battlepasses i own after the season finished

lilac coral
#

Embark who ever got fired or left the dev team after season 2 please bring them back the game was so much better

round hornet
#

Embark could you please tell us what is going on internally? In what world were sledgehammer and gravity cube higher on the nerf priority list than pike and model?

cyan pawn
untold haven
#

GET THE MODEL OUT OF THE GAME

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lofty coyote
smoky gust
#

as someone who doesn't like fomo, i welcome the captain saucearian set being in the shop

its actually one of the few bundles i would want to buy, if i hadn't been there to unlock it
sure it might loose a bit of value to a few people, since its not rare anymore
but imo it sucks exponentially worse to join a game late and just be locked out of certain cosmetic choices (especially with how gorgeous many of these skins look)

and i do think the people that originally unlocked it via levels did get rewarded reasonably, since they basically got multiple skin bundles and misc items (+ a gain in multibucks) for the same price any of the skin bundles go on their own

if you are considering to add more battle pass skins or possibly event/twitch items to the shop, please go ahead

harsh torrent
#

Bro why tf did you guys release the s1 fit??? Such a shame 👎

proven parcel
#

Embark worried goo plane when mediums have had a long range cannon that can be fired at maximum movement speed in air at full accuracy. Tf are we cooking?????????

verbal breach
#

Make heavy do 50 damage with quick melee

untold locust
# mortal notch Sledge nerf before pike/model nerf

Sledge nerf? pepelaugh
Have you done the math on the damage/range/ttk/hits to kill of the Model vs Sledge?
apparently not because the model makes the sledge look bad in every way besides building destruction(medium has demat anyway)

upbeat tree
#

Shouldve done a ghost costume thats a white sheet

torn leaf
#

Been supporting this game since the closed beta and even tho there have been up's and down's in therms of balance changes, update & new approches, i been thinking it'll all be fine in the end. Releasing exclusive BP skins in the item shop is hopefully the biggest mistake you'll be making with this game....

cobalt quiver
barren hare
mortal notch
tawdry bramble
#

here's some feedback, instead of making changes to everything that doesn't need changing, how about making changes to the weapons everyones fucking maining? there's a reason they maine them.. and doing so makes every other weapon fucking pointless.

chilly niche
#

A way to preview weapon animations on uniqeue weapons in the store is much needed

stable glade
pastel cypress
#

Why do you remove the fun in the name of balance?

dreamy ore
nocturne torrent
#

Guys is the alien skin from season 1 battle pass going to be in the shop? That’s such a slight to players who own it

rich blade
#

Been supporting this game since the closed beta and even tho there have been up's and down's in therms of balance changes, update & new approches, i been thinking it'll all be fine in the end. Releasing exclusive BP skins in the item shop is hopefully the biggest mistake you'll be making with this game....

normal gyro
#

Reward players for representing their sponsors

I feel as though you should get more fans if you use cosmetics or skins that represent the sponsor that you chose. For example, each cosmetic/skin you use should boost fan gain by 5% per piece, and have an upper limit of like 20% maximum.

How can you gain fans if the fans can't even see what sponsor you represent??

remote verge
bleak fern
#

didnt get it for free, you have to buy the battle pass and get the xp to earn the reward
@analog anchor your point is irrelevant and stupid.

dusty totem
#

Im not against skins returning, but I do wish there was some kind of cool factor for the people who previously owned it, an exclusive reskin/recolor would’ve kept both parties happy

Its only fair to assume the skins were meant to be season exclusive since its the most common industry practice and embark previously released recolors of bp skins in the shop (odillia’s white recolor)

torpid flax
#

So why don’t we put ranked skins into the shop anyway we get it for free and you guys need to buy it ?It’s not fair for the people who play from early seasons. I don’t want to see they put BP skins back into the store.

restive crow
weak valley
#

Damn, no special game or LTM for Halloween?

final solar
#

idc about cosmetics... WHEN is the pike and model will be nerfed ?? probably the worst season for balancing :/

bronze pumice
echo panther
#

no infected mode is rly a big lost opportunity like take the new map make it dark decorate it with halowwen props start with 2-3 infected rest is suvivors infected only can use dagger with maybe some kind of gadget and it wouldve been so perfect to make the infected wear a zombie skin and the suvivors a apocalyptic themed skin zombies could have glowing puples like the one we have in the bp rn just in a diffrent color and they could be a zombie that dosent have voicelines but only grunts missed chance man...

floral shoal
#

Just gonna repeat what needs saying to the developers because the community is stir crazy as usual.

The Model doesn't need a nerf. Other weapons on Medium need a buff. People play with the Model because it's consistent.

AKM needs its 4 bullets back. FCAR should have about 1 tick of damage boosted. Dual Blades need to have something (???) changed to make them more consistent. The R.357 needs to have some way of differentiating itself from the Pike.

Pike is the only thing that really needs a 'true' nerf by changing its damage model to a bell curve so that close range combat is garbage, mid range is decent, and long range is exceptional.

Oh, and giving Medium back the 2 charge mines for explosives and glitch.

thorny hare
#
  • model untouched
  • pike still overpowered
  • re-releasing cosmetics
  • minimal effort into halloween theming / cosmetics
  • nerfing something that wasnt problematic to begin with

i feel like an idiot for financially supporting this game

potent oasis
#

32k points and i get ranked with guy with 6640 points. HOW? In other team highest guy had 39 k. 33k difference in points between the two. Anyone else has this problem? It happens more and more often for me
Btw we got completely destroyed

rough hinge
#

GIB WINCH CLAW 5 MORE DMG!

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red arch
acoustic frost
#

W

hard scarab
#

Welp they just added alien from battle pass 1 into the shop, cant wait to see diamond skin rewards make there way to the shop next for only 5000 multibucks

silver raptor
#

Fix game chat

mossy otter
dim lynx
#

Yo, my game keeps glitching where the arena isn't destroying and falling through holes in arena but not visible on screen.

zealous pulsar
grim rivet
#

was alien skin in battlepass ?? its the same one ??

quick coyote
#

Dash is OP. Embark give light a single dash with a faster 3 second cool-down 🙏

untold ore
primal frost
#

Goo plane gone 😭

echo urchin
#

Jesus Christ, people are being so melodramatic about the alien skin. Y’all really that starved for status that you’re trying to gatekeep a dumbass alien costume in a fucking videogame.

And people are comparing that to them selling diamond rank skins in the store.

Embark needs to release a clown skin for most of the people in this channel.

bitter acorn
#

This is agonising. Hyper specific and hard to get when I mostly play another game mode. Please let us reroll contracts.

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torpid sky
raw sail
#

1 High Quality skin per week is much better than 6 very low effort skins. Keep up the good work!

regal cairn
#

RUINED THE ASPECT OF GOO GUN BECAUSE NOW YOU CANT STOP BULLETS IF YOUR TO CLOSE. and ruined any creativity using goo and barricades for movement

raw blaze
#

being able to renew daily challenges after completing them all with the use of VRs would be cool bc it would allow a use for them AFTER people have already unlocked everything else VRs can be used for

rigid trout
#

What happened to the Halloween event??

carmine token
# echo urchin Jesus Christ, people are being so melodramatic about the alien skin. Y’all reall...

The problem isn't as much that they're selling an old skin for gatekeeping purposes.
It's that they're selling an old skin when people are desperate for new stuff.
We haven't had a seasonal event in ages and the first one we have after so long can't even have a set of fully original skins?
The game already feels kinda sterile due to the endless patches removing any attempts at playing the game creatively (rip gooplane, by the way). The snail's pace of rollout of balance patches and cosmetics contributes to that heavily.

If the game's not dead, why are the devs treating it as if it is?

sullen berry
#

Add HUD opacity slider and HUD centering for ultra wide monitors, it’s easy to implement and so useful for oled enjoyers to avoid burn in

frosty totem
#

From now on I'll only use the old black and yellow uniform, even having all BPs, and will never put money in the game anymore until an official apologize, exclusive itens should remain exclusive. In this Halloween Embark is characterized as Ubisoft or something... Must be a joke.

barren sail
#

Why do I feel like some shit dev just plays one match every two weeks and whatever he dies to they decide to nerf that?

toxic shadow
#

Selling past bp skins into the shop is a very consumer friendly practice hope that it stays that way.
People who are unironically mad ab it literally value themselves by the amount of exclusive skins they have in a videogame...

red elbow
quick coyote
#

bro why did they add a battle pass skin to the shop, most of the part in a season battle pass is its changes and not suppost to return...

obtuse arch
#

any season 5 artwork leaked?

violet spire
dusty totem
#

Im not against skins returning, but I do wish there was some kind of cool factor for the people who previously owned it, an exclusive reskin/recolor would’ve kept both parties happy

Its only fair to assume the skins were meant to be season exclusive since its the most common industry practice and embark previously released recolors of bp skins in the shop (odillia’s white recolor)

lost talon
#

10 year olds in here who were born into this battlepass GaaS bullshit, nobody cares. This is an actual game forced to be this way cause you don't have any impulse control like animals. You can also buy the soundtrack or other merch if you don't want to donate through skins. Contrary to popular belief, if you start wearing alien skins, you will not lose weight IRL. This is a video game, you bought some textures in game cause they were rare and not cause you actually liked them LMAO.

torpid flax
mortal notch
tired fable
#

it could be cool to have informations in shooting range : dmg pnt, %accuracy, etc...

spark shard
thorn kelp
#

I WAS WAITING FOR THESE TO DROP, BUT INSTEAD THEY RE-RELEASE A SEASON 1 BP SKIN, INCREASING THE RARITY OF THE SKIN TO LEGENDARY, AND SLAPPING ON A PRICE THAT'S MORE EXPENSIVE THAN MOST LEGENDARY SKIN BUNDLES

quick coyote
#

People who are defending this blatant laziness and corporate greed need 2 seriously look at the downfall of apex actual corpo hive minds. this place is for feedback I'm pissed because something I worked for is now being sold to people for no effort that was the reason I bought the battle pass was for the jumpad and the alien and the charm. So mb if I'm upset that I waisted time for something I wasn't told I could buy later on

remote verge
#

he seems to be delusional, 90% of everyone seem to agree nerfs on at least the pike are needed.

dense marlin
#

Remove hidden deadzone and add outer deadzone slider to controller aka console

old minnow
#

The M 11 has a higher DBS than dagger please Nerf

sand hazel
#

im going to throw out that the model and other untouched weapons seem overpowered because they have nerfed everything else. so it seems as if the untouched guns are op just because they havnt gotten nerfed yet. it is a yet since they no longer seem to be a fan of buffs or reworks for some reason.

jagged knot
#

Such a meh update 😕

feral hull
#

I think this is only the start of it we should be getting more with next update

azure canyon
#

Need to hire more skin designer bruh

granite agate
#

Embark should give a multibucks compensation to all those who own the alien skin from S1 like dude what the hell?! I support this game from the start and get literally spit in the face as the exclusivity of one of my favourite skins gets wrecked by making it a bundle?

shy walrus
#

Don't bring back battle pass skins.

Me and many others buy the battle pass because it is limited time.

abstract ravine
#

I buy the battle pass because it has cool shit, I could give less of a care if it was limited. Ya’ll are just butthurt.

golden comet
#

Heres to hoping they add amds anti lag 2

radiant crag
#

Please add an option where controller players play against only controller players
 tired of mouse n keyboard sweats

robust patio
#

FIX THE FOOTSTEP AUDIO. EVERY UPDATE I PRAY THAT IT HAPPENS AND IT DOES NOT. it’s so infuriating to die to someone you didn’t even know was behind you and not because you weren’t paying attention, but because they make no sound whatsoever. same with invis. it just doesn’t make a single beeb sometimes it’s so annoying. i always play carefully and pay attention but i basically get punished for it almost all the time. i beg of you please fix it it’s insane how rage inducing it is when this happens

forest mountain
#

Battle pass skins are supposed to be EXCLUSIVE this is just LAZY u can’t tell me anything otherwise. DO BETTER smh it’s friggin Halloween there’s TONS of things you could’ve done, buh yet u brought back a EXCLUSIVE skin SMHHHH

swift laurel
#

now that the precedent of re releasing bp skins has been set, please be reasonable and let me finish old BP's i already own

coral axle
#

thank you for fixing the hangs on dx11

Can the team make a launch select option on steam for dx11 and dx12

loud patrol
#

Anyone knows if there's anything else coming for this halloween?
Only putting more items on the cash shop is a terrible move
Also, the pumpking head should be an award for an event

untold locust
#

hype pls add a ton more hype quips, they are the besthype

restive crescent
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if i wanted i could simply start to ask for refunds on steam and they would give me the right to have it, spreading missinformation through patch notes is kinda insane

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inland obsidian
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Lol removes goo plane because of pacing yet triple healfib does not effect the pacing in a negative fashion. Fun-e

deep mantle
#

Delete Defib and this game will thrive

twin heart
#

You know, i usually don't talk in this channel much but i want to add a few cents to this whole Alien Bundle thing.

What were you people thinking? I'm absolutely fine with giving newcomers a chance to get older things but charging them exorbitant prices for a piece of an older season pass? And what, are we supposed to think this is "anti-FOMO" as you charge ransom for this stuff?

Here is a crazy idea, instead of doing... this, maybe add a system to allow people to purchase older seasons so they can have the older stuff? Not only does it actually address FOMO correctly, it also generates you some extra money, gives newer people more stuff to grind thus increasing playtime and earns you more goodwill for doing this.

I get that implementing something like this isn't just 5 minutes of work but it'd likely be better than whatever this shit is, 20 bucks for a piece of old season pass peddled as some anti-FOMO attempt.

and before someone drops the inevitable "butthurt because doesn't own it" take i own all the seasonal stuff since S1 and i couldn't care less about being "special" for having something others don't

thorny lynx
#

Honestly one of the last things I would think Embark would do would be to recycle old skins. Absolute travesty, yet now proven and hilarious.

echo urchin
#

Yeah, people should be able to buy and complete past seasons’ battle passes.

elder folio
carmine token
# azure canyon Need to hire more skin designer bruh

They're all too busy working on Arc Raiders. More money to be milked there, clearly.
@twin heart This. I missed out on the earlier battle passes due to playing less, and mostly playing casual modes back then. Give me a chance to work on the old battle passes. I'd drop a tenner if I could have a chance towards the jumper cable Defib skin again.
This? Isn't pro-consumer, it's just lazy. Giving people the chance to work towards ALL old skins would be pro-consumer. Either give us the old battle passes, or sell their contents as bundles, or something. But don't pick and choose what to give and tell us it's good for us.

waxen citrus
#

Please add HUD centering

toxic shadow
jagged cedar
#

Tbh fuck FOMO welcome back alien. Just don't say things are exclusive when they aren't

main steeple
#

Why is a battle pass skin in shop?! I think its not fair for players who played elier and grinded the battle pass. I WILL CRY ABOUT IT. its just lazy

bright holly
dusty totem
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Im not against skins returning, but I do wish there was some kind of cool factor for the people who previously owned it, an exclusive reskin/recolor would’ve kept both parties happy

Its only fair to assume the skins were meant to be season exclusive since its the most common industry practice and embark set a precedent previously bp skins in the shop but only as recolors (odillia’s white recolor which was s1’s tier 96 skin)

I truly hope Embark considers this suggestion and hears us out, I’m sure it would make everyone happy happy_friend

frosty totem
#

Days ago I put some cash through Steam in the game for Halloween but now I won't use it because Embark is joking with us. Can I refund to my Steam????

hollow valve
#

Every good player in this game carries a sin, the sin of being too good. Because sbmm punishes good players by letting they sweat in every game and reward noobs for doing nothing and feeling complacent about themselves so send GG at the end of the game.

For whoever implemented sbmm, why don't you go watch the videos of Blame Truth - the CODFather and primepete?

@silk shadow If you want someone's mouth shut, you are merely afraid what that person might say.

@fickle linden @subtle solar @wheat fractal
And the developers who are watching this channel.
I guess as long as it suits the manager's view of the game, it's ok to be cursed in the official discord of the game.

stuck topaz
#

when you'll fix fckng bug with running disable?
And how you ADD SO MANY BUGS WHEN FIXED SOME EX-BUGS???

fervent hull
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Delete defib ,give back c4

silk shadow
rugged temple
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Sledge nerf over model is a joke.

rapid stream
sullen berry
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I used to buy 100€ worth of multibucks plus all the real money bundles EVERY season to support the game, I gave you more than 400€, but after the battle pass skins and emote appeared in the shop I don’t want to spend a single cent on this game anymore. At least give us an exclusive color variant or something to compensate, and include a special jump pad skin as well. Battle pass skins should always be exclusive to the season they were released in.

And please add HUD Opacity slider!!!

quick coyote
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I dont mind them adding the alien skin, however i feel they should have given OG owners some type of special bling to help signify they had the OG

iron bough
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They buffed Sledgehammer and haven't touched dual blades. đŸ€Ą

They made the headshots contract easier, but left the "interrupt" one unchanged. đŸ€Ą

They haven't talked about how trash and grindy the sponsorship is or how atrocious and inconsistent the fans system feels đŸ€Ą

Embark are you hiring clowns now? đŸ€ĄđŸ€ĄđŸ€Ą

honest island
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I've been waiting for Halloween since October 1st waiting for skins decorated map event I bought coins waiting for the October event, which is practically over. There will be an event from the 23rd to the 6th of November, the map is not decorated, so far there is no event and where are the skins in the store, oh my gosh, what a disappointment

gleaming valley
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please give us a alien skin variant for Og like a dark green or blue or grey thanks 🙂

hollow breach
#

This game desperately needs a QoL update and bug fixes. It's such a mess

clear vale
#

Add a mini gun for heavy

bronze pumice
#

The halloween event literally isn't out yet what are we complaing about

rich blade
#

I‘m a bit sad about them bringing back old BP Skins. They explicitly said these cosmetics would be exclusive. 😩

violet spire
olive atlas
raw blaze
sudden cosmos
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Turrets need to be nerfed

upper citrus
strange wind
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None of the complaining woulda happened if they dropped the alien skin but blue or a different green.. (I wouldnt imagine that being hard to do.. its a color swap). New players would've been cool with a s1-like cosmetic and the s1 players wouldn't be upset... idk how they couldnt have seen this coming?

woven hawk
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Rollercoaster skin best I've seen in any game before catRAVE amazing

daring fossil
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some decent changes in todays patch (no braindead balance changes at least) but I still don't see any fixes to Vegas and it's been broken since early season 3. Also there were more halloween cosmetics available during the beta, yet you're selling a bundle filled with stuff from the season 1 battlepass. Also the new bat wings aren't even attached to your characters back, they just float

tribal spoke
#

Still nothing ? :/

carmine token
#

Why the hell are people describing the Sledge adjustments as a buff?
Unless the wording is poor, the animations remain as they are, but the damage range and timing on the heavy attack (the one that gives people the most grief) is getting reduced, with a slight buff to the range of the much less useful light attack.
Basically, heavy attack has less time to connect, less range to reach and the light attack has a bit more range, while both attacks stay as slow as they are.
How is that an overall "buff"?
@sudden cosmos Never happening. Not with the desperate demands for Beam and Defib nerfs. You nerf Turret on top of that, you destroy Medium. Same thing with how the Mesh nerf guarantees that they can't nerf Winch or Charge 'n Slam without destroying Heavy.
@strange wind The only exception to that, maybe, is the emote. Should've given it a unique emote, with new colors and it would've been a fine enough recolor.
@daring fossil I am convinced that Embark had a fire at their offices they never told anyone about, and they lost everything beta-related in it.
Also lol at no braindead balance changes, solely because there was exactly one balance change in there, kinda hard to fuck up when you do nothing.

normal reef
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Modify the light dash so that holding Q consumes all three charges and throws you a great distance forward

dusty igloo
#

Please make the hammer 15% or 20% something like that, the 25% seemed over tuned

dusty totem
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Im personally not against skins returning, but I do wish there was some kind of cool factor for the people who previously owned it, an exclusive reskin/recolor would’ve kept both parties happy

Its only fair to assume the skins were meant to be season exclusive (Since it was directly stated as such) and also since its the most common industry practice and embark set a precedent previously bp skins in the shop but only as recolors (odillia’s white recolor which was s1’s tier 96 skin)

Not to mention, people who purchased extra multibucks and tiers to complete the battle pass which was assumed would only be avaliable for a limited period of time, being pressured by the day counter above the battle pass.

I truly hope Embark considers this suggestion and hears us out, I’m sure it would make everyone happy happy_friend

wise cliff
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@pearl kiln @rare spear Hello, dear developers! What about replacing the task " Interrupt opponents who are stealing your team's cashout or interfering with your team's decryption at the terminal, 10 times"?
It is really annoying. I have passed all tasks except this. Have no idea how could it be done.
Playing every evening for two weeks I have only 1/10.
Everyone drop stealing when start getting damage. To eliminate such enemy is a luck.
Know other players, who have the same problem with it. So sincerely ask to replace it. Thank you

idle oracle
brittle obsidian
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Seeing people cry about less fomo when the battle pass is still way more cost effective is actually crazy. Y'all want to be exploited so badly

mental hatch
swift laurel
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let people complete battlepasses they already own from previous seasons

cosmic pond
echo urchin
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They should make all the old battle passes purchasable so new players can grind their way through all of them.

The exclusivity argument is cringe. Are y’all really that starved for status?

iron bough
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They buffed Sledgehammer and haven't touched dual blades. đŸ€Ą

They made the headshots contract easier, but left the "interrupt" one unchanged. đŸ€Ą

They haven't talked about how trash and grindy the sponsorship is or how atrocious and inconsistent the fans system feels đŸ€Ą

Embark are you hiring clowns now? đŸ€ĄđŸ€ĄđŸ€Ą

rain epoch
#

Tried having patience but this game is cooked.

Now 4 weeks into season, no actual Pike or Model nerf. No balance to plug meta for ranked, and I hear you guys are play testing and talking about season 5.

Completely clueless, number 1 issue is the long delay with balancing the most obvious issues.

You had two weeks from the last balance change, and you think the most meaningful change you can make is to sledge? I just dunno man.

glad ginkgo
#

Give us the OG Blade Outfit in the first movie with Wesley Snipes and all the Matrix Outfits.

surreal meadow
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~ removed goo plane
~ does not fix meta

i wonder why

neon moat
#

Once again I'm asking for a UI setting to change the HUD scaling and width to accommodate for accessibility and different kinds of monitors that might cut off some UI elements, thanks!!!

upper citrus
velvet moth
velvet olive
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Remove the Alien skin from the shop, Refund and compensate anyone who paid for it, Remove it from their inventory, Don’t do it again.

west juniper
#

Can we get the 1 mil cash challenge lowered?

drifting acorn
#

WHHYYYYYYY?!????!!đŸ˜«đŸ˜«đŸ˜«đŸ˜«đŸ˜«đŸ˜­đŸ˜­đŸ˜­ BRING IT BACK

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pseudo cloak
#

No one complained about the goo shit. Show me who complained. No one. It’s removing stuff like this that will slowly, over time, remove the identity of The Finals. Season after season we drift away from what made The Finals so fantastic and unique

daring fossil
copper lark
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Nerf model spread
Nerf pike in whatever way you want
Nerf defib so you can destroy hologram during revive to cancel it.
Buff like every other weapon 🙂

dense marlin
#

Remove hidden deadzone and add outer deadzone slider to controller aka console

terse lark
honest elk
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Alien skin in shop => not good

haughty totem
#

We want balance changes not old skins in the store.

hard scarab
#

cant wait for the all beta rewards package next!

echo panther
#

so are open beta/closed beta skins also not save and can come into the shop at anytime like the ospuze ob-outfit? if thats the case i want my egg t-shirt

carmine token
#

I am once again asking why people are reading the latest patch notes as a Sledge buff. They DECREASED the range AND the hurtbox timing on the heavy attack while keeping the animation the same speed. The range increase on the light attack does not counteract that.
You literally have less time and have to be closer to hit people with a heavy attack. How is that any kind of buff?

twin geyser
#

add a gamemode where 2 “bodyguards” are defending 1 VIP, if your VIP dies you lose, last team standing wins

red arch
#

buff fcar damage by 1 and its range pls :((

charred ivy
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Can SoloQ Be fixed? I'm losing 600-1000 points while playing with actually brain dead players, trying to carry them, doing 5x their combined points each, single, stupid game, and i'm like -6k in the past 3 days. I was nearly 40k at the START of the season, now i'm nearly gold? Like what the fuck? I know i did not become worse, but these people are not carry-able, there is just something utterly fucking wrong with the way matchmaking works currently and points are distributed.

The fact that i'm expected to be 7/8th, and i'm 7th, and i lose 800 points is also a joke.

minor ermine
#

Why is the updates so big for mainly balances and bug fixes like come on 7 gigs is wild 😭

bronze pumice
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  • Model nerf
  • Pike nerf
  • Make the spear alternate attack cancellable
  • Charge & Slam nerf
  • revert XP-54 damage nerf and lower range
  • Mesh shield much better than start of season but could still stand to be unnerfed a tad
  • Accessibilty option which allows for tap fire and burst fire weapons to just be held down
  • Release the other variants of the hair used in the rockabilly outfit, they existed in the OB but we only got the blonde version in the battlepass back in S1
  • Would like to see sys$Horizon and Fortune Stadium eventually get some love with variants
velvet spire
dusty totem
# upper citrus https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1296847763056885851/1298657245692821534/t...

Im personally not against skins returning, FOMO is bad and all that but I do wish there was some kind of cool factor for the people who previously owned the battle pass, an exclusive reskin/recolor for the Alien skin would’ve kept both parties happy. Battle pass owners would get to keep having something exclusive, and people who wanted the Alien skin would get it. it's a win-win scenario.

I'm not against anti fomo practices but capitalizing on FOMO by saying this and then ripping people off (especially people who bought extra tiers) is mega scummy from embark's part. I don't care for the return of the skin and I wouldn't especially if it were stated beforehand skins could return, but they said otherwise.

Its only fair to assume the skins were meant to be season exclusive (Since it was directly stated as such) and also since its the most common industry practice and embark set a precedent previously bp skins in the shop but only as recolors (odillia’s white recolor which was s1’s tier 96 skin). It's very scummy to not state anywhere that battle pass skins can return (and on the contrary, very clearly stating they were meant to be exclusive.) and then rereleasing them on the shop.

Not to mention, people who purchased extra multibucks and tiers to complete the battle pass which was assumed would only be avaliable for a limited period of time, being pressured by the day counter above the battle pass. Capitalizing on them and then rereleasing the skin with no warning is just wrong.

I hope Embark is transparent from now own and directly state under the battle pass that the rewards will/can return in the future. Like fortnite has been doing from now on

I truly hope Embark considers this suggestion and hears us out, I’m sure it would make everyone happy happy_friend

alpine turret
silk shadow
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Thank you embark

slate iron
#

Thank you embork for the alien skin. I'm so glad it is back!!!!

paper steppe
#

buff model

tepid summit
#

purple witch hat pretty please, also some black cat cosmetics would be awesome, like cat mask, ears, tail, etc

fervent hull
old minnow
#

For medium

Spell book
80 damage
80 RPM
3 rounds
Reload speed 2
(set enemy on fire spawn fire underneath player reloading animation, flipping pages)

Merasmus skin
Please

elfin dock
#

I dont own this cool alien outfit but selling it outside the battlepass destoys the exclusivity of the outfit , big L move embark

whole palm
#

My problem with alien skin returing is the "rare" jumppad skin i had.....

echo urchin
swift laurel
#

let people finish battlepasses they already own from previous seasons, currently the precedent set is incredibly problematic:
imagine buying bp, not having enough time to finish it, then Embark releases just 1 set you missed at a 3x markup from what you (already) paid

sinful trail
elder folio
flint jungle
#

other nerf more heavy xD
embark you can continue nerf heavy all you want but light will continue lost tournaments. No is who have class more op, It's the way the lights play

cedar wadi
#

Add sbmm to world tour

sharp bolt
#

Embark, revert the changes to the xp 54.all it needed was a range reduction.

rough storm
#

remove model

next rock
#

No model nerf lmao. Game just isn't worth playing

deep summit
#

Don't market something as exclusive if its not exclusive

strong lake
#

I'm probably the only that cares but please 93r buff or at least an optic for it

candid crystal
regal cairn
#

just wish this game felt like a sandbox like last patch... the removing of goo being a solid object while its in contact with a person is the worst play. it may stop the goo ships and such but it also ruins the goo locking / direct goo hits from blocking bullets which make the game 10x worse. now the game feels like im playing a typical shooter

thorn elbow
sacred siren
coral glen
#

Those who find it acceptable to reintroduce cosmetics from previous seasons’ Battle Passes, good for them. However, those who think it’s ridiculous to complain about this are wrong.

A Battle Pass is inherently tied to a specific season and its theme, as is the case in The Finals (and in many other games). An indicator in the menus shows the number of days remaining before the end of the season and therefore the end of the Battle Pass, directly encouraging players to complete their challenges before the deadline.

Furthermore, during the last weeks of each season, Embark adds an XP bonus to help players finish their Battle Pass, which reinforces the feeling of exclusivity. This makes players believe that if they do not finish their Battle Pass in time, they will no longer be able to obtain the final rewards.

Admittedly, it is nowhere explicitly stated that Battle Pass cosmetics are exclusive to a season, but it is equally not specified that certain items might reappear in the future. Embark does not use FOMO at all. It is very easy and quick to complete your Battle Pass on time, which is great, but the feeling of exclusivity is still present, which is misleading.

mortal notch
lean frost
#

What’s the point of buying a battle pass if I’m working for the skins to be sold again for people who didn’t even work for them embark please fix this there’s no reason the alien skin should be sold for people who didn’t earn it

violet spire
#

yea, SuperAnimalRoyal did this too you can still buy older seasons for just a bit more tickets

plain heart
#

I don't think they usually answer questions but if anyone working on the game see this, will the battlepass's bonus page items come back to the shop? I see it as like a reward for the die hard fans who play the game constantly and it would be odd if they could be purchasable

daring fossil
# carmine token I am once again asking why people are reading the latest patch notes as a Sledge...

and im glad because im fucking hella tired from being hit by a sledge from 15 feet away.

@swift laurel bro, if you can't finish a battlepass in 3 months, that's on you. Even season 3 when I didn't play much I got it done in a month. I honestly don't care they brought battlepass skins I already have back for a limited time, I'm more upset that half the cosmetics from the halloween beta are missing, but it's also possible we will get more halloween skins next week.

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tough sapphire
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So no change to mesh shield and yet another nerf... We wont talk about reusing skins from season 1 (S4 map ....). People from embark dont make an update without content take MORE time to make things better. This is just half finished work

fast rover
#

people really crying about skins? fomo generation 💀

smoky gust
#

i like the "avoid fomo" mindset
i would be nice to see more (if not all) items return some day
if they remain available permanently after all the better

be that as bundles in the shop or by keeping the battle passes available for purchase after the season ends
or we could go a bit off the rails, raise the vr cap to 10.000 and make this amount unlock a bd page for purchase

marble sentinel
#

do not bring back old battlepass skins to the shop. ie the alien skin. Make a purple reskin of it and keep the original to those that originally obtained it

night vortex
#

There’s no way you guys nerfed GooGun before you fixed all the other shit. There’s no way

livid spruce
#

Releasing battlepass skins is a great idea, I want it.

However, there are valid critizism going on of people getting wronged by the battlepass system. If your goal was to release it again someday, you should've communicated it before, and should probably compensate players with an exclusive purple/amethyst style or similar.

torn frost
#

for next update fsr3 with fg for amd gpu pls

dusty totem
#

Im personally not against skins returning, FOMO is bad and all that but I do wish there was some kind of cool factor for the people who previously owned the battle pass, an exclusive reskin/recolor for the Alien skin would’ve kept both parties happy. Battle pass owners would get to keep having something exclusive, and people who wanted the Alien skin would get it. it's a win-win scenario.

Embark has now stated that the battle pass is meant to be a "Deal" on the items but they never stated this when the items were first released. I guarantee nobody would complain if that was the case.

I'm not against anti fomo practices but capitalizing on FOMO by saying this and then ripping people off (especially people who bought extra tiers) is mega scummy from embark's part. I don't care for the return of the skin and I wouldn't especially if it were stated beforehand skins could return.

Its only fair to assume the skins were meant to be season exclusive (Since it was directly stated as such) and also since its the most common industry practice and embark set a precedent previously bp skins in the shop but only as recolors (odillia’s white recolor which was s1’s tier 96 skin). It's very scummy to not state anywhere that battle pass skins can return (and on the contrary, very clearly stating they were meant to be exclusive.) and then rereleasing them on the shop.

Not to mention, people who purchased extra multibucks and tiers to complete the battle pass which was assumed would only be avaliable for a limited period of time, being pressured by the day counter above the battle pass. Capitalizing on them and then rereleasing the skin with no warning is just wrong.

I hope Embark is transparent from now own and directly state under the battle pass that the rewards will/can return in the future. Like fortnite has been doing from now on

I truly hope Embark considers this suggestion and hears us out, I’m sure it would make everyone happy happy_friend

plain jacinth
#

Almost feels like they’re too afraid to nerf model/pike because majority of their players are medium mains (they’re greedy)

ripe herald
#

Pls bring back goo planes

quick coyote
#

Maybe the Halloween update was the friends we made along the way

upper citrus
#

Add a world tour event where any class can equip anything

twin geyser
frank gull
# upper citrus https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1296847763056885851/1298657245692821534/t...

Embark really getting desperate for money. I understand you have to pay the bills, but at least be honest when giving out a "Exclusive" Skin. First the skill issue set, now a alien suit, promise next year it'll be the pumpkin mask 😅
It's just a skin, but they have less "value" when just given out.
Limited release adds value, stop being so tacky to fit in everyone's opinion Embark đŸ™đŸœ
You don't have to sell out to fit in.
Please don't become like E.A. Sports.

Micro transactions isn't the way, Please focus on gameplay.

Embark... đŸ—Łïž 📣 THANK YOU for some of the best in game cosmetics.

solemn light
granite schooner
#

I'm 100% cool with no FOMO with the alien skin being brought back

But definitely re release the seasonal items every season and make them non-fomo too.

The game should be about gaming like the good old days like it does so well. Not about making people feel special because they played earlier than someone else. My wings and alien skin don't make me better than anyone. The battle pass should be great value and a bit of work.

void pilot
#

They need money so skins will be all over the place obviously and who thought we will see a freaking goo gun and a sledge hammer nerf before the model LMFAO FR! HAHAHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

autumn warren
#

Releasing one or two skins for sale long after the battle pass has passed isn’t a bad idea. Just make sure it’s limited. I enjoy being one of the few to have the roulette Lewis gun skin, and same with the Elvis attire. But occasionally releasing a SINGLE popular skin from old battle passes is a way for players who weren’t around in that season to enjoy the skins produced. Because you guys have the best skins in all of gaming IMO

hardy root
#

potentially dumb suggestion as this mechanic has been in the game since the betas but is there any consideration of shortening the cooldowns for some of the gadgets that need to be reloaded, like the rpg and the stun gun? i feel like a huge advantage of gadgets is popping them as soon as they recharge and i always make the mistake of forgetting to reload. making the cooldown longer and removing the animation would fix this too, or just shortening the animation itself?

whole palm
latent charm
#

Embark, I am very happy, as are many players, with the game and everything that comes out. The problem is that it is easier to write to complain than to write to say good things. I love the game! ❀

daring fossil
frosty totem
#

Now they're saying they didn't reskin because people who had green would buy the another one, but that contradicts all reskins they already made lol. They're lying exactly like when they lied about the reason of ranked TA

winter scroll
mortal notch
#

Goo gun is practically useless now if ANYONE is inside the goo it’s not counted as a physical object meaning no barricade surfs no stopping people in their tracks etc etc etc

drowsy field
#

killijg off goo ship before a model/pike nerf is so insane. why remove fun niche parts of the game before fixing key issues

L patch revive goo ship

cursive geyser
#

No model nerf? im in shambles

dusty totem
#

So many people asked for a halo infinite style BP (which completely eliminates FOMO) during S1 and embark said NOTHING about it and even stated that the skins would be exclusive, only for them to backpedal last second on it.

I'm NOT against the skin coming back, and I don't think most people are either. I just wish they would make it clear beforehand and they probably will from now on

but we should've been given compensation since it was directly stated the skins would remain exclusive and they never did.

Embark has now stated that the battle pass is meant to be a "Deal" on the items but they never stated this when the items were first released. I guarantee nobody would complain if that was the case then.

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sharp bolt
#

They need money , it seems. Cash grab

final solar
#

AGAIN a game with only models.... PLS NERF IT

fringe adder
#

when are they going to nerf the light class, light outguns heavys in 1v1s , playing the light is just easy mode

strange holly
teal venture
restive crow
#

So many cheaters with new accounts like level 6,7 in the ranked gamemode :(( Also, I totally agree with @teal venture

swift laurel
#

let me finish old bp's that i already paid for theres no reason for you not to Embark, i will only believe you dont like fomo and want to be consumer friendly if you do this

quick coyote
#

Aiming with pike is bugged with scope it shoot next to my crosshair on the right

grizzled canopy
#

Day 9 of asking Embark for Viking Cosmetics

viral wave
#

Hear me out, drip feedback channel for cosmetic glitches :3

surreal meadow
#

FOMO (Fear Of Missing Out) on skins is good

Just on BRAND NEW skins

hollow valve
#

To good players, SBMM is a sin, a sin that punishes them for being good. To medium players, it's a prison. An algorithm prison that they can do nothing about but decides their game results, they can't tell if they're progressing or not. To bad players, it's a lie, a lie that gives them equal chance to win so they don't even know where they are in the skill bracket.

You want streamers? Why Faide mostly play pubs in APEX? Because in ranked, SBMM wouldn't even give him a chance to utilize movement.

You were battlefield developers? Let me quote words of enders (who has a 6kd and 3kpm in previous battlefields): SBMM in Modern Warfare 3 had me wondering how much money I was going to win at the end of the match...... only for me to realize at the end of the game that this is just a regular 6v6...... and we are playing for no money at all.

You want a hit game? Based devs of Space Marine 2 said there is no SBMM in the game because it's cringe. Where is the SBMM when you go into battle?

They tweak up their matchmaking because of some interns with no hearts who desperately need some "experience and paper" to better their resumes so made up some experiments (https://web.cs.ucla.edu/~yzsun/papers/WWW17Chen_EOMM). But those are commenced without acknowledgement, just like the reflection nanites in Mirror's Edge, once the employees knew, they would fight against the emotions they imposed on them.

sudden spire
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The final cashboxes need more money in them otherwise if the same two teams get all the first ones the end of the match is a waste of time. Second place should always have the potential of loosing at the last second

celest berry
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nerf the fk sword Finals is an FPS not an arena brawler
good sword player can consistently win 1v2ÂŽs or 1v3ÂŽs not even a good model player can do that and model is also completly broken

Dont be like "light has the lowest winrate of all our classes we cannot nerf it"

Get the to the root of the problem why light has the lowest winrate, a light player has to be 100% perfect with positioning otherwise they die instantly so give light some survivalbility like +50HP and balance arround that instead of giving light unlimited mobility

west juniper
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I really just want weekly challenges to be something doable within a week, whilst not needing to no-life the hell out of the game

rain drum
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If you want to release OG skins Just gave the original owners a different variant so the original owners can stick out. you should give all the OG players a gray alien fit, I wouldn’t mind that.

prisma harbor
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WTF IS POSSIBLE THE MODEL AND PYKE IS NOT NERF PLS EMBARK STOP SLEEP:!

void nest
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revert the xp-54 nerf pleasee

fluid egret
vague tide
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Glad the devs made sure to nerfing the heavy and any fun techs rather then fixing not being able to queue up with crossplatfrom friends

iron bough
night vortex
daring fossil
# night vortex Sounds like they stopped goo locking which kills a lot of the utility like movem...

sounds like an unintended change because there was no mention of that in the patch notes. They even mention stopping people with goo to make them fall off the map as a way to get kills now.

@night vortex turret blinding is still a thing, this change was made to goo barrels weeks ago just to stop goo stuck to turrets from clipping through walls and stuff, it still blocks the turret, it just doesn't rotate with the turret, they just changed where the goo "parents" to the turret

gleaming lance
red echo
proud dagger
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TELL ME HOW THE FINALS DEVS LOOKED AT THE 70% USAGE RATE FOR THE MODEL AND DECIDED NOT TO NERF THE WEAPON, on another note about the model, besides it dealing way to much damage, being able to 2 shot mediums and 3 shot heavys, notice how the brokenness of the model really shows when you go against PC players, that's because the model is the only gun in the game that you can truly flick with, why else would the top 500 ranked leaderboard be dominated by PC players, because console players cannot compete with the flicking ability of PC model players, honestly the gun should be removed from the game because of the skill gap it creates between PC and console, console can't compete

merry anvil
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Nerf everything to hit like a wet napkin. Everything too strong.

Bring back recon senses

strong lake
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93r buff and optic please

frosty totem
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How difficult is for Embark to say “we were focused on other aspects of the game and we're sorry about it” instead of WE DIDN'T RESKIN BECAUSE OGS WOULD BUY THE NEW ONE. God sake.

lime lichen
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Buff the dual blades, do we really need to tag all the CMs to get them to actually see something?

shy swan
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another empty update.

upper citrus
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i like the finals merch but please do something more interesting than black tees with brand logo. the cosmetics in this game are so good theres no reason the merch should look like this

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copper lark
# red echo defib isnt the problem and you know it apoh

defib has been a problem since season 1, nobody likes facing a team of 6 bro, everyone remembers 3 recon fcars with defib. Defib 100% is a problem and has been a problem if you think defib is fine you are on cope. there's a reason defib got reworked in season 2 at the start but still is used by every single medium

glad cosmos
surreal meadow
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Louder headshot/crit sound effect, or a slider to increase its sound (HS to enemy and getting HS to yourself)

Explosives get crit sound if max damage (Explosive Mine, Frag, CL40, MGL32, etc)

maiden tulip
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Can we get a farmer themed set ?

sand holly
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GIVE US THE EGG PLUSHIE NOT TSHIRTS

quick coyote
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Make the alien event suck players up like the gravity cube does.

upbeat urchin
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Still no fix for the post game Weapon Camo XP, this is legit annoying, it really cannot be that hard to fix or am I wrong ??

Also no one is talking about the elephant in the room, that explains why the defib is "powerful". When you are dead and waiting for respawn your utilities cooldown continues, which would be an indirect nerf to defib if you change that

pseudo breach
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Just updated. 2 3 crashes back to back trying to get in to the practice range... Good job

minor moon
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Why would Embark add a bundle of items from the battlepass đŸ€ŠđŸœâ€â™‚ïž

frank gull
feral shell
nimble field
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Is anyone else having hit registration issues

quasi plinth
unique wasp
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I really wish this game had a better practice range so it was easier to test the consequences of patch notes. I'm trying to confirm what actually happened to goo this patch and I hate that I can't test without trying to do so in an actual match

clever hawk
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FOMO is cancerous but the problems with the Alien skin extend well beyond it.

The items in the Battle Passes have previously been stated to be exclusive by Embark themselves.

You have a limited amount of time to complete them & are incentivised to structure your playtime strategically so as to optimise your use of daily/limited contracts for XP.

For those that fail to naturally complete the path towards these allegedly exclusive rewards, an option to pay the utterly extortionate price of 150 Multibucks per item is available. For 1200 Multibucks - more than the cost of the Battle Pass itself - you can purchase just 8 levels. The Battle Pass contains 96 paid levels.

To then later put some of these “exclusive” rewards not only in the store, but at a bundled (discounted!!!) price almost double that of the original Battle Pass it belonged to despite containing 11 items and not 96, as well as failing to provide prior communication & clarification, is beyond scummy.

This means you have previously incentivised and pressured players to put in either time or money for something whose exclusivity you have ultimately lied about. You have deceived players with FOMO and encouraged them to spend ridiculous amounts of money with that deception.

You’ve been largely consumer friendly up to now but this is a major red flag.

A far better system that would circumvent most FOMO would be to permanently reintroduce each Battle Pass 3-6 months after they first expire, similarly to Halo.

You could make them a little more expensive and have them award fewer Multibucks. This would provide players with timed, in-game financial, & out-of-game financial incentives to purchase the Pass at release, but still allow future players a reasonable way to access all of the cosmetic items.

vast light
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They change sledge and not model, nice. Everyone talks about a model nerf and instead they change some thing that isn't even a problem currently. And now we have to go through another two weeks of even hoping that the model is gonna get nerfed or changed in the slightest

foggy ginkgo
tough sapphire
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Honestly the problem about this update isnt about the alien skins from S1 BP. The problem is that you did not create anything new. That is the same exact skin as before, its just weird.

With the fact that this season is kinda mild in terms of content its just not good work. Idc about the alien skin being in the store tbh but just the fact that its there shows there is no work put into the game.

There is (I'VE SAID IT BEFORE) multiple people here that give the same and GOOD feedback about gadgets or weapons and how to change things and you dont listen to them.

What is next season going to be ?

@uneven dagger Nice feedback bro...

@tough merlin Idk about the quantity of update but there qualities has decreased thats certain. And for Embark itself, honestly idc anymore. The game is nice but its stagnating its just sad

uneven dagger
lilac coral
night vortex
jagged walrus
tough merlin
sullen berry
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Add HUD opacity slider and HUD centering for ultra wide monitors, it’s easy to implement and so useful for oled enjoyers to avoid burn in

dim steeple
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I didnt recieve the Akimbo skin from the Community event even though I`ve killed several people

proven parcel
daring fossil
quaint forge
waxen citrus
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Hi, me again. Please ADD CENTER HUD BOUNDARIES FOR ULTRAWIDE USERS! Thanks. Back in 30 minutes.

thorn kelp
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Proceeds to remove Goo Ship

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verbal pivot
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It’s so fuckin trash that they release the season 2 battle pass skins in the fuckin shop the shit says “Unobtainable after season ends” smh

humble temple
warm compass
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heavy is so weak aginst light with stun and sowrd imagin 2 sowrds please buff heavy

fathom sky
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Just removed everything, we only use our fists lol

tough raft
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RE: returning items,
I think its cool that they return as store purchases, but if we really want to 'avoid FOMO as much as possible' being able to complete (and maybe purchase too) season passes after the season has concluded would be the best way to go.
But maybe thats not too good from the no fomo vs business point of view, eh, I get it