👂┇game-feedback

[vestal basin]

The bug that makes us can't shoot is still not fixed SINCE THE GAME RELEASE? WTF ARE YOU DOING???

[rough herald]

idk bout lewis but i 100% agree rpg need a nerf in damage

[sacred siren]

Why is it that the new white mask and its green counterpart are the only masks that dont allow co-equipping with the red headband? Like every other Facewear works with the red headband (see below screenshots for examples)? Can we please make it somewhat consistent? (in favour of allowing co-equipping pls <3)

[obtuse tundra]

They can’t, it’s Xbox/PS rule don’t change achievements after release. Be ready to play ~450 hours))

[regal sand]

THE FINALS ISNT BUILT FOR TERMINAL ATTACK

[glad laurel]

dagger broken. 😔

[sand marten]

more like people overestimate their gameplay, rush b / to terminal and forget its no respawn

[smoky gust]

obvios hyperbolisation
you said "APS nerf, which no one need and want", while talking to someone that does
i too want these changes, and with thousands playing, there will be others that want it too but just dont talk about it
if anything you're exaggerating

noobtubers are actually very small amount of M/H
hmm, i wonder why?
maybe because loosing for no fault of your own at 1 click of a button is incredibly punishing and deincentivises running them

there is always way to counter even strong gadgets
i explained why the listed counters dont work

it's not worth do nerf APS only for such small amount of playerbase
and what does it do to those people?
even if its not many, its way too strong against them

if you using GLs almost always come to close ranges where it is viable anyaway?
often yes, but sometimes you shoot it from medium range
and there, it doesn't help

What is even about?
you know, that you cant expect something from randoms
so your success is up to a dice toss, if your teammates help you with it at all

Again you not denied from single gadget
i explained why it does, but youre ignoring that

not even every medium player run in loadout
my point about "just run data reshaper" being flawed

inability to play with team
cant rely in randoms

or creative.
all options you mention are either unhelpful or have some kind of problem
if you cant even come up with something that's fair and works then maybe you should admit its wrong

where cooperaion mandatory to win
not in 1v1's, except if youre running projectiles against aps

situation when you absolutely shouldn't be at
just don't exist?
gee thx, didn't think about that at all 👍

i explained why they are invalid and wrong.
you repeated your points and ignore all the flaws we mentioned

[swift gust]

Day 2 of requesting the devs the to optimize the game just like it was in open beta

[stray rampart]

Yes some optimization is needed!

[terse slate]

there should be some type of Grace-Mechanic for ranked when a teammate is either missing or leaving midgame because he/she cant keep calm.

[patent sphinx]

@smoky gust, for you too. APS meant to be hard counter to GLs by design, bc it's strong AoE weapons. It cannot be softed like you want, from just balance/gamedesign perspective. For e.g. way (1) loss health with each projectile dawn / way (2) cooldown after number projectiles down. Weapons in game have infinite ammo, and can just "dry" turret by just shooting in at (1) / just destroy it on cooldown(2). Not matter how many health loss per projectile / cooldown time. And it's one GL on team. Now imagine 3M/H stack with all GLs. And wow - what happened, your "soft" counter to GLs is now not counter at all. APS is fine in current state, leave it alone, and get some skill for niche weapons.
@smoky gust , I read your reply, and what you try to say concludes to one thing: you picked niche weapon which require serios skill to use and teamplay, got countered. And no, again APS shouldn't be nerfed by reasons mentioned earlier, only bc you/your teammates/almost entire playerbase can't play game as inteneded (teamplay, yes). For other takes:
"you repeated your points and ignore all flaws we mentioned", pure hypocrisity, i did absolutely otherwise, and you being ignorant and try to slide to "nah uh uh" - you not got it...

[obtuse yoke]

Can we let parrties que into the practice range, it would be so cool to 1v1 with freinds

[floral prairie]

Yeah I want beat this kid in one

[tulip rose]

Came back to the game after 2 months. Horrible bugs persisted, you can't use weapons, gadgets, completely disabling your character until your next death, sometimes it persist for entire match. New bug discovered 20 minutes ago, was diamond 3 rank, last 15 seconds of match we are 1st on leaderboard at 40k+ cash, 2 teams with 4k cash getting +22k, third team is down at 400 something...we got disqualified that same match, somehow us turning 3rd place, even tho no one died and we had 40k at the last sec of game, and on top of that disqualifiction game demonted me to platinum 4. Realy good game, never playing again.

[unreal widget]

its literally not, i just tested it, let go of the button and voice icon was still active 10 seconds later lmao

[restive beacon]

Please optimize the game 😦

[proven trellis]

skill issue ngl

[civic igloo]

yeahh that's only a visual bug, people only hear you when you press the push-to-talk key (or open mic all times ofc).
don't get confused by the UI indicating that you are speaking

[untold jolt]

I completed the 'terminal attack' mode but did not receive the shirt as the final reward. Is it bugged?

[indigo fjord]

same here, i think its bugged atm

[thick sorrel]

Lewis has better TTK compared to M. Heavys have already the most Health and Shields and best explosives. Like wtf is wrong with balancing?

[naive fulcrum]

@indigo fjord play 14 matches instead of ten to receive the award

[lunar iron]

I dont know, I've ran into 3 medium stack with APS in ranked and I'm a mgl32 player. It feels like you're shut down indefinitely for the full round. In a game where speed is everything, it doesn't feel great that my only options if my teammates aren't on top of it are to run around a few rooms and try to find a good shot angle. Or charge and slam to save a cashout at extremely low probability. You'll find you'll run into the APS in bulk especially in rounds 2 and 3 once everyone knows each others builds more. If the APS remains permanent in duration, the one change I could see feeling better is allowing enemy projectiles to shoot from within the APS circle. This at least gives the GL player an option themselves that is high risk/high reward by bum rushing or dropping into the APS from above ground. While still keeping its intended use which is spamming grenades from afar and through windows

[patent sphinx]

I tend to agree only about a duration, maybe she shouldn't stay infinitely long, good way to balance it. But it cannot be weakened on the way those guys mentioned, by reasons i mentioned. Period. It will just made APS useless vs GLs and make em straight up most broken weapons in the game.

[smoky gust]

APS meant to be hard counter to GLs by design
its meant to counter it
currently its a hard counter, which is incredibly frustrating
it should be a soft counter

Weapons in game have infinite ammo, and can just "dry" turret by just shooting in at
infinite ammo, but no infinite clip/mag
you would need to waste your whole mag, reload and then get to engage
that is still incredibly strong, but at least you would have options

Now imagine 3M/H stack with all GLs. And wow - what happened, your "soft" counter to GLs is now not counter at all.
you know, if 3 people have to choose that weapon
need to organize shooting it all at the same time
while loosing 1/3 - 1/2 of their total ammo as a team
against 1 gadgets
id say that's still a counter

get some skill for niche weapons
relying on teammates to babysit you is not skill
and even if aps doesn't bug out and you're able to destroy it somehow, you're still incredibly likely to loose anyways
this is nonsense

i did absolutely otherwise
maybe i was a bit harsh
you didn't just repeat your points
but i explained the new flaws for those that you didn't just repeat or say no to

me countering your points with arguments is not ignorant
that would be the case if i just said "no" without explaining why
the only times i didn't explain why is if i had already done so before

i see where this is going and that there not much of a point to continue

maybe she shouldn't stay infinitely long
then you cant play until you wait x seconds
it doesn't work

It will just made APS useless vs GLs
explained above

@lunar iron

allowing enemy projectiles to shoot from within the APS circle
you take self damage, and you would most likely already take heavy damage trying to reach it, that wouldn't work

[regal sand]

Losing just one player is almost a guarantee loss. Clutching is almost impossible. Games like CS and Valo work because there is a sure way to instantly pick off enemies. There is no "one-shot headshot" in the Finals. Take into account that you're not able to regen 100%, if it's a 2v1 chances are you'll lose.

[rough herald]

rpg doing 2x self damage is nut, i know its powerful and all that but when they inevitably nerf the thing to the ground pls make it only do 1x self damge

[weak swift]

https://tenor.com/view/pedro-monkey-puppet-meme-awkward-gif-15268759

[gusty wagon]

optimise game performance please. freezes still occur since a few weeks ago

[next zenith]

Don't you think this game has a massive cheater problem? Heavy with no recoil gun and autoaim

[river plover]

2x self damage right now is good gives light a tiny way to counter RPG: By running into the heavy so the heavy dies as well(atleast, if they even took enough damage)
If they ever gut RPGs damage then the self damage will be lowered too.

[sonic wigeon]

I think the game is pretty well balanced right now. The ranked matchmaking experience is so far so fun. Havn't encountered a single cheater and we get matched against similar ranks. Ranked is another game right now. Before this update it was crazy cheatinfested. Would just get instabeemed all the time, which never happens now.

Seems like alot of u guys are complaining about "now I cant 1mag a heavy etcetc", its a teambased game. If you play as a team with ur teammates you wont have any problem destroying other teams. Its not a 1 man solo game. And if youre playing solo, please turn on your voicechat. When we 2 queue and get a solo, 9/10 times its some random dude just running around without voicechat and have 0 teamplay skills.

Anyways, I think the ranked experience is so much better. Sad to hear that some ppl get down arrow even after they've qualified for 2nd round. Embark must change that...

[vivid socket]

Ranked - Make the ranked leveling system accurate. I was on 3 chevrons ready for promo and I played one game got to the second knock out round for my leagues score to drop from 3 chevrons to 1 chervon but at the end of the game it said I gained 1 chevron. WHich is it? did I get closer to ranking up or further away. Bring back fame points or make it a LP based system

[cyan nova]

add bullet drop to snipers, tired of these invis campers staying at their spawn point hidden in the lights not doing anything, some guy on the opposing team got 14 kills in a match (not terminal) by camping invis. also just wanted to point out a glitch I saw a couple days ago, me and my friend were playing terminal attack and it was him (a heavy) vs an invis light sniper, and for some reason the light was invis but his glare still there, so all he saw was the wall and the glare on top of it? Not sure if this is a glitch or it's because he's aiming with invis, not taking a shot.

[queen cloud]

Imagine having such a huge skill issue to need something to shoot at his own feet to actually hit someone.
Thank God embark don't listen to these people. Balance is bad enough already

@yulaw.z1#0000 Soo true. That part of the reason cl40 is Soo braindead.

[wicked tiger]

EU servers flooded with hackers again.

[gleaming summit]

day 300221221 and the sword bugabuseing are not banned or fix the exploit.

[thick sorrel]

Should apply to CL-40, too! It makes no sense that you can spam CQB with negligible punishment

[mortal rose]

this is a bit messed up for me i think, why you get arrow down when you pass the round 3, there is only final, round 2 and round 3, how do you expect me to win on round 2 when round 2 is always full of cheater ?

[gloomy otter]

how did i go down 2 bars when i made it to round 2 in rank?

[rough herald]

nah i just accidentally shot the cover i was using. i was shock that it do so much self damage to say the least

[edgy iris]

Add wall run and buff sliding

[vestal obsidian]

ggs

[quick coyote]

to be fair, a lot of situations in this game requires you blowing up something at close range and currently RPG are useless for that because of self damage.
ex: the villa houses in Monaco/hospital rooms in Seoul, skyway office buildings etc

only way for heavies to do that safely is using canister or c4 by getting some distance away

[viscid owl]

💯

[thick sorrel]

Charge & Slam? Sledgehammer? I know Heavy Players want everything and no disadvantages at all. For close we have Dematerilzer for M and also L have breachcharges, but no one plays it. Having 2 of them would be a nice buff to increase the pickrate.

[mortal glade]

Anyone else getting constant lag but it not being because of your internet connection?

[hard badger]

yes frequently on a gtx 1660 super

[proper chasm]

1x damage on a self hit isn't "No disadvantage" it just makes the rocket launcher more useful as a utility for bursting down walls in CQ as it stands right now it's very nearly a one shot which is kinda daft

[daring siren]

They should make it so if you hit yourself and nobody else, it does 1x damage, but if you hit an enemy with it that should go to the 2x multiplier

[broken musk]

low gravity is ass remove that shit asap

[keen lily]

playing at plat 2 for a month and seing other plat 2 players I sometimes wonder if buying accounts is a thing in this game, like where is your brain people

[quick coyote]

reward holding cashouts not just completing them ie 1k/10s then a larger bonus when it finishes I'm sick of holding cashouts for the entirety of the game then getting double teamed, wiped and just watching helplessly as all that time is wasted because the bot team takes it at the last second

[queen cloud]

Embark this is i would start with to balance your game:
Light:

• Revert cloak activation cost (keep visibility changes)
• LH1 dmg reduced from 49 to 47

Medium:

• Revert AKM recoil to release patch (this should be the noob friendly ar)
• Revert FCAR to 25 dmg and 20 bullets (this should be the higher risk AR, right now it's just an akm with less ammo)
• CL40 damage to 100 from 110. Self damage increased to 2x
• Healbeam doesn't stack

Heavy:

• RPG damage reduced from 140 to 100
• Lewis dmg reduced from 25 to 23
• M60 dmg reduced from 22 to 21
• Mesh shield now has a 5sec cooldown after you toggle it off.

Other changes:

• Grenades now have a visual indicator that warns the player a grenade is coming/close by
• Mines now can only be placed 4m or more away from another mine of the same type.
• Movement reverted to patch 2.5.0, these constant dead slides feel awful
• Added kernel level anti cheat

[versed bridge]

They did better than your other teammate who actually is ranked ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[deft jetty]

Solo q lobbies with no game chat and friendly fire is enabled…

[slender hazel]

TONE DOWN SBMM IN QUICKPLAY

[novel lily]

Change the rank 7 weapon skins. Allat work for some shit ugly skin when the rank 6 one still looks better

[strong escarp]

Put the glitch effect back on Stun Gun. It's wild that anyone can use movement specs/gadgets while the player is supposed to be immobilized in the stun state.

[pliant lion]

I completely agree with you but I don't expect anything to change as this likely needs a significant rework in the core mechanics of the game.

Alternatively a ranked gamemode where a system like you mentioned is in place and with locked HML teams could be very interesting, at least in my opinion. Call it "Continuous cashout" or something 🙂

@queen cloud I agree with the CL40, Healing beam and Lewis Gun changes. AK and FCAR seem to be in a decent spot right now. AK is mostly for shorter ranges whereas the FCAR can be used at short-mid ranges. Mesh shield needs a rework in its core mechanics in my opinion. I shared the following a short while ago:

*"Consider making the shield not block bullets entirely, but let it significantly decrease the damage done by them within a certain range. Bullets hitting the shield from the front can "fizzle out" and deal reduced damage (for example 10% of the original damage) within 0-5m behind the shield and be completely harmless after 5m. The health of the shield can go back up to, for example, 1250 or something again as any targets behind the shield are not invulnerable. This would make the shield more of a buffer for the heavy carrying it and less of an "emergency panic button" when their HP gets low. In this case enemies can still finish off a heavy that deploys the shield when they're at 20 hp if they keep shooting. The heavy's teammates can work around the damage range by standing back a little farther, which makes them easier to flank if your team is paying attention.

Currently the mesh shield is (in my opinion) a little too strong if you're in a 1v1 setting and you're not at point blank range. You can't damage the shield enough to finish the player carrying it, regardless of what HP they were at when they deployed it."*

[rustic grail]

Need a ranked mode for TA

[tired oasis]

Mesh shield in 1vs1... Just melee and it's done.

[daring siren]

Can you guys make flash grenades not hit your teammates? They'd be a much better option if they did that, would also be awesome if they exploded on impact.

I would also like to pitch a specialization for Light that turns yourself basically into a flashbang, where it charges up with a hum and a building glow around your body before exploding out of the light and hitting enemies for a 1-4 second blind depending on how close they were and how much they were looking at you. It'd also stop light from shooting while its charge up along with having a sound when its being activated. Can be countered by looking away and being out of range.

[violet elbow]

this one actually cooks im ngl, shame they wont listen to it

[woven fossil]

Add guns

[upper citrus]

Sooo MMH meta?

@true hazel MMH is not meta at all after the fcar change because medium is actually fair now. MHH is meta because heavy is extremely overtuned due to Lewis and RPG being insane. Once those are nerfed as well as LH1, LMH will be meta. Medium does not need any changes

[true hazel]

Its already MMH/HHM meta, its good changes except the akm which is already easy to use

[opal echo]

😭

[fluid raptor]

That sounds useless af

[quick coyote]

Cheater situation in Asia is still terrible. In a final round with another cheater. Good fucking job.

[fervent vortex]

almost all of this is horrible and lowers the skill floor @proper chasm I meant lower skill ceiling, removing all heavy shield tech removes the core skill of the clas

[quiet rapids]

i like it

[proper chasm]

Low skill floor and high skill ceiling is generally reguarded as a good thing?

[wicked tiger]

There's hackers in the EU who play light who have invisibility and dash. The state of the game is beytond a joke.

[tawdry bramble]

nurf the fcar for no reason? cool how about you nerf the bloody smgs because they're broken as fuck.

[pliant lion]

You do realise you can run into or shoot at players that are farther away than melee range? If you manage to shoot a heavy down to 20 hp they can just press Q and walk away like nothing happened if they're far away enough. Even if you decide to keep engaging and run towards them they're most likely full HP by the time you get there. With the way the heavy shields work right now there often tends to be some sort of (mesh) shield staredown between two rooftops if there's at least one heavy.

[wary galleon]

I like the specialization idea on light, I think that would be a cool concept

About the mechanics of the flashbang, I feel it would be way too strong if teammates didn't get affected by it. It's definitely a gadget that rewards communication and a team that can coordinate their movements around it.

I like Terminal Attack since it calls for more "breach and clear" gadgets and class setups which is where I believe flashbangs where truly shine.

[patent night]

Make RPG deal 300 damage, make stun gun duration 20 seconds and make Medium's FCAR one shot anyone with one headshot

[daring siren]

If they do, I would prefer if flashbangs were more powerful then, because as it stands you have two of them and they last hardly any time at all, plus they take a while to switch back to a weapon from, but they lack any of the power normal frags have.

[potent ginkgo]

PLEASE MAKE IT SO WHEN YOUR TEAM STEALS THE CASHOUT IT ALSO COUNTS TOWARDS YOUR OWN PROGRESSION!!!!!

[golden rock]

Okay so here goes my piece on suggestions for game balance. Part of those are things I would like to see in the game, but a part are just suggestions that might not be the best but at least suggest something instead of just complaining that things are too powerful or useless.

Let me also preface this with saying that I have been playing since open beta and I feel like every single update that has been made has pushed the game into a better and better direction (even though I was very afraid the launch recoil changes would make this game into a long-range focused shooting fest with very little place for close range combat, which fortunately didn't happen) and I hope things will continue like that.

Also this is probably be multiple messages as I cannot fit everything in one place.
With that said here goes nothing (or a lot of things actually):

Part 1: Light
I believe light build has been too stirred by the recent changes to actually attempt balance changes so quickly and we probably need to see the meta settle a little more around them before doing anything to his more powerful aspects. That said there are a lot of weaker aspects that could use help

Throwing knives:

• Increase the projectile velocity
• Either let us hold right click prepared or adjust it's animation so that the throw comes out faster, but has more animation lag after the fact so its' usage seems more responsive

Dagger:

• Increase its' attack speed while adjusting damage, the weapon would feel a lot better as a "death by thousand cuts" thing and it would distinguish it more from the sword, while also allow for easier finishing off on heavies after a backstab
• like with the throwing knives let us hold right click or apply a similar animation adjust so that the hit comes out faster

Thermal Vision:

• Add some indicator about hazards and smoke. Yes this gadget is made to be used to shoot through smoke but the fact that we cannot if it still is there without disabling it sucks.

[tawdry bramble]

no.

[wicked tiger]

Tried 5 more games of quick cash to complete the 3rd Steal the cash out circuit: hacker in every game and I'm losing wins in my stats because I'm reporting them and leaving. Embark you are a big joke, no wonder the player base is dropping.

[sharp jasper]

Add glitch canisters

[rugged elm]

Lol I highly doubt there are cheaters in quick cash…. Skill issue😂

[spark shard]

checking cheating tools

[woven fossil]

This is proof that people that complain about light just don’t even bother checking it first 😭😭😭 This would be like me complaining about medium players “hacking to have two turrets.” Quit trying to start something and do research before attempting to make a statement

@rugged elm no you don’t understand!!! People have somehow managed to still kill me with light after all of the nerfs!!! They gotta be hacking!!!!

[fast mortar]

We could use a new and more immersive training room.

[upper citrus]

Nerf Lewis, RPG, and LH1 and then buff the weak stuff

[golden rock]

Part 2: Medium
Medium is in a pretty balanced spot right now, after the Fcar adjust there should no longer be any rifle that dominates as much and all 3 can be used for different scenarios. There are however still some outliers in medium's arsenal that are annyoing to play with or against.

Gas mines:

• Increase activation range
  They seem to be under performing imo so they need a little boost

APS:

• Give it charges, 2 or more likely 3 each with it's own recharge time in the ball park of 8-12 seconds. It is incredibly powerful that a single medium with a single aps can stop like 16 grenades in a row. Yes you can shoot it down theoretically but there are some places (like for example an inside of an elevator) where a well placed aps can negate most of the counterplay to stacking inside the elevator on a cashout.
• Make it require line of sight. Why is it able to destroy breach charges or mines from below through the floor?

Model 1887:

• Allow it to interrupt the reload animation, mostly a qol change, but the gun would feel so much better if you could just queue up a shot for after the animation places the slugs into the mag and not wait for the other ones to get loaded up

R.357:

• Change body damage from 74 to 75
• Change the headshot multiplyer from 2x to 1,97x
  Leaving a light with 2 HP after two shots feels so much worse than not one-shotting them with a headshot this changes would allow you kill them while still not allowing for one-shots

CL-40:

• Remove the direct hit damage
• Remove the self damage penalty
• Change the mag size from 4 to 5
  This weapon is frustrating both to use and to fight against (especially if you are not a heavy) and you can sometimes just kill yourself faster than your opponents, and you can often one-shot wounded lights out of nowhere. I understand there should be some prevention from just running up at enemies and killing them with explosives, but this weapon is nowhere near oppressive enough for it to be as high as it is.

[daring siren]

LH1 does not need to be touched at all, the TTK is perfectly fine, the only change it might need is front loading its damage in exchange for less firerate so it can't spam at close range and win

[wicked tiger]

A great example of how poor this community is, downplaying the sheer number of hackers. No wonder Embark give them a second chance.

[real moon]

buff throwing knives, revolver and make dagger usable again, also bring back breach charge doing max damage if it's exploded early 🥺

[jagged anvil]

It is really sad that I cannot reconnect back to the rank game. Is it possiable to remove the timeout setting? My PC just blue screen and restarted, it took a while, when I finally opened the game it told me everything was end, my teammates are 2vs3 in the final round, which is also almost the round that we can finally rank up. What I can XXXX doing is only listen to their scream, I am so ashamed. What's worse? I got a 10mins penalty......

[quick coyote]

Ranked Terminal attack with economy (buying gadgets), and 12 rounds would be sweet. Add text chat and its a banger competitive fps.

[river girder]

Anyone else not get their CNS hoodie after doing all the challenges?

[limpid light]

Can we please get a sorry option on the communication wheel?

[cloud jungle]

Fix sliding when meleeing ffs

[rapid stream]

You have to play 14 rounds instead of 10

[lavish shard]

Why in qp 80% play whit light ?

[novel lily]

Body options for each class, for example, skinny / fat / muscular. It can be hard to make some skins look good for certain classes primarily heavy bcuz hes fat, so i think this would be a cool thing to add.

[golden rock]

Part 3: Heavy
I feel like I don't have as much experience on the Heavy build, even though I have probably played it more than Light, but I feel like that is because RPG is such a powerful gadget that I had little chance to experience more varied loudouts

RPG:

• Move it from being a gadget to a specialization
• It does feel slightly to weak to be a specialization so I would see one of two possible ways to adjust it:

1. Keep it as a high damage burst for opening fights or finishers with the added utility of destruction:

• Decrease cooldown from 45s to 35s
• Slightly decrease the outer falloff of explosion damage
  This would keep it as the high damage option, while also reinforcing its' aoe capabilities.

2. Balance out its' two purposes of being a damaging piece and a destruction piece

• Decrease damage from 140 to 100
• Increase charge count from 1 to 2
• Decrease the reload speed
• Change charge cooldown from 45s to 30s
  With this the idea is that you can shoot one charge for destruction and reload to have the other for the fight. You can also obviously try to use them both for the fight, but you probably will just get killed before you reload.

Lewis gun and M60

• Decrease the crit multiplyer from 1.5x to somewhere between 1.2x and 1.4x
• Adjust recoil patterns to reinforce M60's close range identity and Lewis' longer range one
• Decrease Lewis gun's damage from 25 to 24
  I think decreasing the crit multiplyer would stop Heavy's damage from spiraling out of control as you get better with the guns while still keeping it as is if you mostly bodyshot. The wavy recoil patterns for both of them are just too similar to each other in my opinion making it feel like one is just a worse version of the other after you learn how to control them

KS-23:

• Increase the plaver damage back to 120
• Add a crit multiplayer of 1.25x

Anti-grav cube:

• Increase the floating speed
• I am not really sure if it is aps-able coz I see it so little, but it shouldn't be for sure.

[rustic grail]

Allow players to pick different teams in private matches plz.

[upper citrus]

Yes buff the damage to 50 and lower the fire rate by 50% (it seems like a lot but that 50 damage breakpoint is insane)

Also nerf the starting damage fall off to 50m and max to 80m. there is no reason why the lh1 should have better range stats than the sniper

[copper lark]

The ranked system after 2.6 patch feels scuffed, the elo gain for a lot of people feels very inconsistent and even some d1 players are losing like 50-100 ranked from 1 loss even after a win streak, but wins only gets like 1-5 ranked. something is really weird there

[upper saddle]

Possible idea for the Melee Weapons- both Riot Shield and Sledge Hammer as both are in pretty rough spots in recent times with the shifting meta and player base becoming better and better at the game.

Increases to movement speed could be a mechanical change that'd save the two melee weapons that're struggling right now if their numbers truly can't be changed and more complicated changes are off the table, making a Riot Shield Medium move at a speed between lights and mediums and a Sledge Hammer Heavy to move at a speed between mediums and heavies, still not as fast as the build meant to be faster than them but faster than they normally are with other equipment, such a movement speed bonus to normal movement, sprinting and sliding.

I don't feel like Sword needs any love beyond fixing hit reg issues along with fixing that in the other melee weapons at the moment though, although throwing knives could also benefit from such a mechanic to make them a better 'dance around your opponents' style weapon if they also got a slight movement speed bonus when equipped.

Another potential buff for these weapons is to embrace the 'melee brawler' style and give contestants that have a Riot Shield or Sledge Hammer as a primary weapon an extra 50 max health although I wouldn't say this is as good or nearly as balanced of a solution as the movement speed bonus however having these things as an option for future balance changes could be neat.

[rough barn]

pls nerf heavys ttks🙏

[tired girder]

If you do damage to your own jump pad, it counts as combat damage. Had a team mate in rank just sit in the corner shooting his 5 times then picking it up and repeating. Got himself a ton combat damage

[whole acorn]

will we be able to switch between automatic and single shot for guns? i noticed that some guns already have the trigger on the model but if we could switch in game then it would be cool and also make it feel like we have secondaries since we dont

[warm crown]

I think balance overall feels pretty good rn I think the fcar needs to go back to 20 in the mag tho and given some damage back

[glass fjord]

Play 14 matches instead of 10 and it should unlock. That quest is bugged.

[quick coyote]

dude mesh sheild are crazy im fighting 1000 hp raid booses

[trail pagoda]

SUGGESTION: In terminal attack, when the player kills everyone on the opposing team, play a voice line and display some text on the screen that says that says ACE!

[hexed vapor]

Why is the game putting me in a ranked match with a full D1 team when I'm P2?!

[woven atlas]

i gotta say the game is very fun for me and works good there are cheaters sometimes and sudden crushes but still im having fun what about you guys?

[proper chasm]

Just wait until you find a heavy that dome shields then puts barricades down then uses them to climb to the floor your on because the hight's been increased then they deploy mesh shield or charge and slam just after they fire at you with a rocket

[tepid prairie]

This is madness ❌ this is the finals ✅

[manic prairie]

@limpid light YES YES YES (I just think about that yesterday) 😅 I wish we get text chat options in game....

[coral axle]

PROGESSION! people are leaving the game and getting bored because there is no thing to look for in the future

[upper citrus]

Please don’t listen to anyone saying that the fcar needs to go back to being “high risk and high reward” it was literally the most generalist weapon possible that could play at every range. If you missed 75% of your mag and hit no headshots then you wouldn’t be able to kill a light before reloading. There was no risk involved

[quick coyote]

what? we just had two battlepass bonus pages, circuit AND event unlocks
people still want more? lol

[obsidian solar]

BUFF THE RIOT SHIELD:
Here's some suggestions, I know all of these together would make the shield pretty strong but even 1 or 2 would be enough to improve it so much!:

• While blocking movement speed should be the same as walking (increasing block movement speed would help a lot in pushing and giving your teammates support)
• Increase swing speed (Honestly a lot issues would be solve with this, the weapon lacks a good ttk)
• Lunge distance (90% of the fight become a chase you can't win, the other classes have ways to block enemies, slow them down or catch up to them, even heavies have RPG to finish people off if they use sledge)
• Increase damage from 84 to 90
• Electrify the baton and give it a glitch effect, when you hit somebody they're glitched for 2,5 sec (This would give the shield so much utility and would help the team greatly, making it a viable options)
• Remove the fov zoom when you hold your shield up (it's very annoying that when you block the screen zooms in, either remove it or add the option to choose between affected or indipendent fov while aiming)

ALLOW MELEE WEAPONS TO KEEP SPRITING WHEN ATTACKING:

• This would help them to compete

IMPROVE MELEE TRACKING:

• Some weapons like the Dagger have an insane lock that is not needed, on the other hand the Riot Shield has a very weak lock, you can't even hit people in your face sometimes. Consider increasing the angle at which the lock works and reduce the lock strenght on the Dagger

FIX THE DAGGER BACKSTAB:

• Backstabs with the Dagger are the most incosistent thing I've ever seen, a lot times either nothing happens or it's not backstab even though you're right behind them and other times it is when you're literally in front of them
• Increase the backstab hitboxes because the latency of the servers causes this problems
• Make it so you can hold the backstab and it's not a forced animation, revert it like it was in the Open Beta

[rustic grail]

lower ttk plz

[wide summit]

can we please get a tank top so we can show off tattoos

[finite briar]

me when we have two skins that do this

[sharp jasper]

Went from FCAR to AK after the nerf, love having 29 extra rounds after deleting a light to beam your team mates, can confirm FCAR change was worth.

Although, FCAR should most definitely go back to its original state with a higher reload time

[pallid jetty]

Daily Scheduled Tournaments 🙏 tldr: Rocket League's proven system

It's a bit hard to explain so bear with me

• Every day, X number of tournaments are scheduled to begin at predetermined times. (unique to each region)
• Players can "join" / "sign up" to each of these tournaments to be included when they begin.
• At the set time (e.g. 6pm) all "joined" players are automatically queued into available tournament servers.
• These tournaments are big, more rounds, more players, and last longer.
• A special seasonal reward is earned for winning a scheduled tournament because they are considered more significant and hold more prestige.
• Scheduled tournaments may also impact rank (or a separate rank).

Pros

• More excitement, prestige, and competition in the game.
• Scheduled tournaments are reliably populated because they begin at advertised times of day.
• No queue or matchmaking delays. (especially good for regions like OCE)

Cons

• Potential for a sunken regular ranked population during scheduled tournament hours.

[old crypt]

Reskin the cat shoulder pet into an orange cat so I can have my cat in game please

[kind light]

• Imagine playing solo and being always matching against at least one Diamon1-Diamond-2 party-squad while just being Platinum 3.** Imagine never get any Diamond in your team while you always playing against them**. Platinums are currently matching against Diamonds but Solo players derank with the same rules as full Diamond squad! This is so stupid
• Imagine seeing multiple squads with Diamond and Bronze with default skins and same KDA which is 100% smurf to abuse rank
• Imagine losing almost every game because there is one Diamond x3 squad in party who griefs whole game because they wiping everyone and no one wants to fight them
• Imagine receiving penalty while playing ALONE in a match when your teammates were kicked for being AFK
• Imagine receiving tripple arrows down for dropping from a second round full of much higher ranks
• Imagine playing only Light for 150hours when it gets nerfed to pointless and there are only H/M in Plat-Diamond lobbies

I experienced all of this during last 3 days after the new patch in every match.
I hate to admit it but solo ranked is in the worst possible state i experienced and i ever could imagine in fps game. "Problems" and whining of the first season were nothing compared to the current hell. I hate myself every second playing plat solo ranked. Unbalanced, unfun, 30% winrate experience. I lost two subranks after the new patch while I NEVER lost any ranks in my 150h ranked experience.

WHY YOU HATE ME, EMBARK? WHY? WHY YOU MATCH ME AGAINST DIAMONDS SQUADS WHILE I PLAY IN SOLO. WHY YOU DESTROYED MY MAIN CLASS? WHY YOU PUSHING AWAY YOUR LOYAL PLAYERS?

[abstract harbor]

Ranked is so, so frickin' bad. Win opening round as a plat2 vs two other TRIPLE-DIAMOND stacked teams, and we lose in the 2nd round because (of course) no one goes near the remaining diamond team, and they get to walk away with three FREE cashouts, and show up at the last cashout to dump all over everyone scrambling against two other teams to just place 2nd. All that, and I still lose 2 rank down arrows. Whatever the hell that goofy trash is. Ranked is beyond busted.

[golden rock]

So you are telling me you are purposefully avoiding fights against players stronger than you and expect to eventually take their place in ranking by doing it? Sounds to me like you did not earn those up arrows.

[pseudo breach]

Got to love the inconsistent hit registration. Good job 👍We're all super proud of you

[limpid light]

Oh absolutely that would be awesome

[wicked light]

You have a stun gun that does not stun, but why?

[quick coyote]

How can we make anti cheat even more aggressive. After 500 hours and playing ranked two seasons I'm done. Asia server is fucked. Cheaters. Still running rampant. EU / NA enjoy the game, I know your server barely has cheaters but I can't play on your server

[stuck trench]

Embark catered to shitters. Simple as.

[dull elm]

I'm still confused how your iron sights (so your gun) moves and the bullets somehow don't move.....
Please just let the bullets shoot to where the iron sights are aiming or just freeze the crosshair
Ty embark!

[patent night]

make so 1 bullet to the head is instakill. that way it rewards players to be better and makes the game much more skill than gadgets

@rotund skiff well of course i'm satire, but thanks for not being all mad and everything lmao

[rotund skiff]

Highly disagree. Wouldn't work for so many reasons

[rugged elm]

Embark already came out and told us that 99% of reports come up negative for cheats. I’m not downplaying. Most people just up play it to the point where if you get killed at any point in the game they must be cheating right? The people complaining about the cheating and calling it a terrible game because of it even though every single game has cheaters is a great example of how poor some people on the community could. Some games are even worse off currently (look at the cheater issue with CS rn)

@wicked tiger now you understand! In all seriousness though let me put this into perspective. If there is only like 40k players or more playing the game at a single time, and there is maybe 250 hackers (idk if that’s realistic or not) the hackers are going to seem a lot more frequent because people will be running into those hackers more. But as the player base rises in numbers, the amount of hackers will not rise nearly as much because the percentage of legit player to Cheater is large in all scenarios. So if the game could boost its player base to 100k, maybe the game would have 1k or less cheaters at any given point. People cheat yes, but 99% of people just want to play the game for what it is, maybe more.

[queen cloud]

Embark this is what i would do to balance out the game:
Light:

• Revert cloak activation cost (keep visibility changes)
• LH1 dmg reduced from 49 to 47

Medium:

• Revert AKM recoil to release patch (this should be the noob friendly ar)
• Revert FCAR to 25 dmg and 20 bullets (this should be the higher risk AR, right now it's just an akm with less ammo)
• CL40 damage to 100 from 110. Self damage increased to 2x
• Healbeam doesn't stack anymore

Heavy:

• RPG damage reduced from 140 to 100
• Lewis dmg reduced from 25 to 23
• M60 dmg reduced from 22 to 21
• Mesh shield now has a 5sec cooldown after you toggle it off.

Other changes:

• Grenades have a visual indicator that warns the player a grenade is coming/close by
• Mines can only be placed 4m or more apart (to avoid double explosive mine cheese in some spots that are almost impossible to spot).
• Movement reverted to patch 2.5.0. With patch 2.6.0 there are a lot of dead slides.
• Added option to disable AA completely. (TAAU too blurry, dlss even worse).
• Optimization. Shouldn't need high end cpu to get a smooth and responsive experience with low settings.
• Kernel level anti cheat.
• Remove snap AA from all guns.

[misty jasper]

we literally have another circuit coming too

[wicked tiger]

It's the assumption that people who call out hackers have a skill issue or if they're killed at any point they just call hackers. 5 games in quick cash I had 3 players head shot only without being within the same area of the map as me and the other 2 were on my team doing the same thing to other players. Obvious rage hackers. But yeah, it's a skill issue on my side, clearly.

[lapis seal]

I think a pistol for heavy could be really cool. Give the big man a Deagle or something.

[keen lily]

even if you're best in the team on most of your games you will be stuck in plat 2 forever as long as you solo queue, so happy Apex is getting the new season tomorrow and the pointless grind of Finals can end lol

[daring fossil]

asking for a GL40 buff and fcar reverts is wild.

[quick coyote]

Lol you're so fucking lucky you're not in Asia. I'm sick and tired of losing Final rounds to cheater. I do everything to point them out and send screenshots in general. Lol nothing happens, you can see the proof by checking From me in finals chat. Sack this game Wait for xdef

[upper citrus]

Weapon balance suggestions with the goal of giving every class a place and most weapons a balanced spot

FAMAS: buff range (10m min and max) Reasoning: this gun needs something to stand out from the other rifles but its long range playstyle isn’t distinct enough. A raw DPS or ttk buff would turn this into the FCAR 2.0 so this buff is the best option to make it more distinct in it’s strengths

REVOLVER: buff range (10m min and max) Reasoning: why does this drop off at 18m 😭

MODEL 1887: increase the dispersion of the 4 pellets in the middle of the shot slightly so that the shotgun is less effective against light at range

Lh1: nerf fire rate by 50%. Buff damage from 49 to 50. Lower min damage fall off to 50m and max to 80m. Reasoning: this gun will literally kill the game if light ever becomes just as viable as the other classes. Nerf this preemptively or else you will see the worst meta since nukes.

Xp-54, 5% fire rate nerf. Reasoning: the XP is a generalist weapon that also happens to be just as good as the other light weapons in their respective niches. Those weapons aren’t even bad either, the XP is just too strong. A slight adjustment like this would help the other weapons stand out as being more worth it. The Lewis gun and rpg nerfs at the end of this giant suggestion will more than make up for these necessary light nerfs

93R: give it a drum mag, if damage stats are going to be significantly worse, allow it to sustain that lower damage for much longer. 60 round mag.

Lewis gun: buff range (+10m min and max) nerf fire rate by 20%. Reasoning: there is no reason why the long range alternative to the m60 should beat both the M60 and the SA1216 at close range, these changes will encourage users to play to the strengths of the weapon and give it a weakness close up

RPG: nerf damage to 80, remove aoe fall off, reduce cooldown by 20s. This would encourage using it for team splash damage instead of being a “fuck you” button for lights. The cooldown buff would also make it less punishing to use for destruction

[pseudo breach]

I might actually jump ship to Xdefiant as well. At least they launch with South African servers.

[true hazel]

On my mama this is the way

[bleak coral]

to be fair diamond lobbies should mean there HAS to be a diamond on every team, easy to implement and would stop full gold teams going against full diamonds cos thats just dumb

[sly wharf]

A buff to the hammer for heavies would be so nice to see. Fight back against mediums and lights a bit

[kind light]

YES, it is so easy to implement... Just shuffle teams equally. Or restrict to match up for diamond squads. If there is a full diamond x3 squad and devs put them against me to reduce their search time - this is the most dumb decision possible. Why i should suffer and play against like top-1000 players that are playing together just to reduce their wait time?
No wonder the game is dropping number and no one want to touch ranked.

[queen cloud]

Apex is a better game for sure, with better skill gap. But still has the problem of OP aimassist. 90+% of people on higher ranks(masters+) are all on roller not missing a single beam.
Fps genre is dead, this is because everyone just wants quick and easy, all the crutches. Just wait until they add positional AI assist and the game plays itself.

[pearl mica]

APS is still too strong with unlimited charges

[sand marten]

[dim sun]

Day 4 asking to fix the dagger. My favorite weapon that i bought skins for is now unplayable.

[swift gust]

yeah man. But unfortunately Embark cares shit about optimization

[sharp agate]

Hello, I have been playing a spotter for a few days and the support points for the role seem very low! I can play an entire game just spotting, glitch grenading shields, sonar grenading groups, and track darting players, yet I will only get about 1k to 1.5k points. Could points be buffed so sniper can play a more passive support role?

[ebon hemlock]

is anyone else having this issue with glitch grenades? sometimes it just doesnt disable dome shields and it is really annoying

[honest harness]

Had the same multiple times. Clearly a bug. See https://discord.com/channels/1008696016318513243/1201841543926005810/threads/1235811842094403595

[keen lily]

I'm masters too playing on kbm xD the only ones crying about aim assist are the ones who cannot aim

[upper ruin]

COSMETIC PRESETS FOR CONTESTANT PLEASE

[merry holly]

Are glitch nades supposed to not immediately drop a dome/mesh shield anymore? It literally doesn't show the gadget being thrown half the time, or when it does hit a shield, it doesn't even remove it

[unique steeple]

Can you make shotgun playable again

[boreal sentinel]

If only blocking a cheater would actually prevent me from matchmaking with them again. That would be useful! But noOOOoooo. I just had to get abused by them again! WHATS THE USE OF THE BLOCK BUTTON FOR???

[kind light]

ADD SOLO QUEUE to ranked. I would like to wait for 10 minutes to search players if i will not be bullied by full diamond squads against me. Current matchmaking is disgusting and unplayable when you put solo players against much higher ranks that are playing in party.
Just add it as LTM and check results or make some tests with sometimes matching only solo players in one game. This will make the game more fair and at least playable

[strong escarp]

meanwhile my friends with easy 4K 20 bomb Master badges for the past several years have quit. it's no fun having a skill that you practiced for thousands of hours get trivialized by someone who aimbots with controller after 10 hours of practice.

[wicked light]

It just seems like to me they are just trying to make players happy instead viewing metrics. Light players are clearly the worst class overall, if you get touched you are dead. One of the few tools I had to create angles on players was the stun gun, and even then I die if I don't use it correctly.

I didn't think it needed a nerf.

[mint creek]

WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY IIGHT IS SOO GOOD UNTIL THEY NERFED IT BUFF LIKE A LITTLE TO LEVEL THE PLAYING FEILDE

[upper citrus]

Light was buffed in the last patch for ranked. Idk how people still think it was nerfed

[dim sun]

it makes no sense to even nerf light. even with the buff to the glitch grenade why does it need to be accompanied by a nerf as well when the meta and the most oppressive comp is MHH. heals and shields add so much survivablity plus zipline and double rpg just makes their engage unstoppable. Makes absolutely zero sense to nerf light the only people complaining about invis/stungun are noobs. it isnt even that strong because a light playing invis and lurking to catch someone out with stungun isnt even contributing to their team they are just playing for kills. Meanwhile MHH comps have tons of survivability engage defense offense mobility. there is literally no weakness to MHH comps besides a MHH comp that plays better. when the only counter to a comp is the same comp that is not healthy for the game a creates a stale meta. PLS stop abusing light. again only people on here complaining about light arent even playing ranked so why listen to balance opinions from people who are bad and will complain about anything.

[novel lily]

FOR THE LAST FUCKING TIME STOP PUTTING ME IN MATCHES AS THEY END

[zinc horizon]

Make all wood inside of buildings burnable so I cook people

[stuck trench]

Gonna go ahead and guess you don't even really play Light?

It isn't even a question amongst Light mains.

[quick coyote]

I don't like it when the game kicks me out for no reason. Why does it think we cheating. I don't cheat. I wish I was cheating with how ass I am.

[smoky basin]

Nerf Lewis too many ammo for too much damage

[daring siren]

50% is massively increasing its TTK, it'd kill much slower than the VS9 in its current state with that, the weapon would be fucking dead. If it was a 15-20% firerate decrease, I get that, but 50% for 1 extra point of damage is stupid and not at all how it should be balanced when all of lights weapons need short TTK's in order to compete.

[untold cliff]

Can we add Powershift and terminal attack to ranked?

[quick coyote]

Whoever made the "listen in stereo" emote I bow down upon my knees to your majesty 🙏

[potent ginkgo]

Yes bruh, what is wrong with you

[rose basin]

I don't think they had passive lights in mind when they made the class, more of a hit and run type who ideally end up with the highest average combat score (this isn't totally balanced, light is both the most OP and Underpowered class at the same time and seems like a pain in the ass for Devs to balance). I hope the Devs listen to your comment.

[keen light]

Add glitch barrels

[grizzled canopy]

Day 32 of asking Embark for medieval bundles

[dreamy magnet]

Ranked system is kinda ass, the game rewards you based on the rounds you won and not your actual skill. 3 games in a row I've had teammates who respectfully didn't really do anything. And yes I know everyone feels like that about randoms but honestly it's kinda tiring being paired with people who can aim but can't get the cash out effectively and my rank is penalised for being matched with them

[sleek dawn]

terminal attack already has hidden rank, if you are high enough u can track it in the scoreboard https://the-finals-leaderboard.com/?platform=steam&leaderboard=eventTerminalAttack

altho idk how the score in it works lol

[timid jay]

Light bow when 🙂

[iron flint]

please for the love of god increase the HP you regen in 5v5 to be able to survive a body shot from a sniper. This class is so boring to vs it's actually insane.

[quick coyote]

THANK YOU, i was actually coming in here just to say that. it happened multiple times to me yesterday when it was a clear direct impact

[keen tartan]

Add Tokyo as one of the maps

[hard badger]

please add penalty when leaving in cash out because its so annoying when people leave and ure left with 2 people in a team or let alone alone, it happens way to much and its not fun! I dont want to play ranked because of cheater problem but leaving in cashout is a problem

[upper citrus]

I have played light in diamond since the first closed beta.

The glitch buff, fcar nerf, and removal of a knockout round are all amazing for light. The only parts of light that were nerfed were crutch options that weren’t even best in slot anyways. The stun nerf is fine because you no longer need to stun mediums to kill them thanks to the fcar nerf.

[acoustic storm]

Tbh, idk why aim assist was adjusted? Why not remove it entirely. Thanks to the new patch the katana hits everything.... There is even less aiming required.

Also Green canisters dont explode when being hit with the rpg..... Since nukes have been removed, maybe adjust the explosion damage they receive?

[toxic sedge]

is there anyway to opt out of backfilling? i dont mind waiting longer to queue, just every backfill ive done recently has been awful, crazy hard losing positions or like joining a game that has like 1 minute left 💀

[short oracle]

Please stop giving anti-cheat solution to problems of 2010 game cheaters....

Embark have some pointless and useless concerns that only 2010 games had, and the solutions kinda affects negatively your players, and cheaters always do a work around
tbh I love anti-cheat design/definition from valorant so I'll do some comparisons to it, and why valorant have a way more modern approach than embark (I'm not talking about being a kernel lvl anticheat)

Macro Definition:

• In valorant the only type of macro that's really not supported is the ones that adds aim input, to avoid aimbot/aim assist and anti-recoil
• Embark shuts down everything
• The concern that kids would be using a cheating macro to click faster is bcs 2010 fps games with semi-auto guns had no bullet cooldown, so ppl woul fire it way too fast, not a thing here, useless reason, and tbh click too much can hurt or give health problems over the years, and ppl that play games might have that issue and that's why it's dumb af to prevent ppl from clicking fast to be a thing
  not only click fast, but embark considers cheating any kind of macro cuz they have a stupid rule that "if u pressed one key, there must be 1 input"
  which clearly in valorant isn't the case since to start off u can asign multiple keys to 1 function and multiple functions to 1 key, and also can use a macro to spam jump if u want (or whatever shit u want/need), they have better work arounds than punishing regular users that just want or need the macro
  like prevent the existence of super OP bunny hop like a 2000s game ||cs|| and any other thing from existing in the game instead of leaving it and punishing ppl for abusing, cuz that would just punish your community that have only 1 account and leave the cheaters on their 100th account be free

Client Side vs Server Side

• to start off this game have everything server sided besides move your camera, that's totally noticeable if u lose connection to the game u freeze in place, and can't shoot, or anything, only move your head
  that's a terrible anti-cheat approach that kinda sucks to everyone playing with over 4ms ping, and just sucks in different lvls the higher we go
  ofc it makes sense to have server-sided checks for security, but that's what is supposed to be, checks
  if someone is walking, can the server confirm they are walking at regular speed? yes? so confirm their action instead of doing it for em, confirm the client sided action
  confirm the bullet their shot if it is possible
  confirm the movement, confirm the skill used, the gadget in their hand, confirm the grenade throw, the throwing knifes trajectory and in what it landed, don't do everything server sided and expect to not be somehow annoying the higher ping we go
  just do the checks and confirm the client actions considering their ping, if u disagree with client action, revert/deny it, just don't do everything server sided and than send it to client,to reproduce, it's almost like playing a game via streamming,|| just without the streamming part, with render client side,|| and guess what? even google stadia shut it down cuz isn't that good as they thought it was

[thick sorrel]

Sounds really cool!

[wicked tiger]

Stop taking my wins from my stats when I leave because of hackers that you can't control.

[lavish shard]

Good light spoted not a cry baby 👍

[heady lichen]

why is there no way to chat with people whatsoever, its impossible to try and make friends to play with, i have no way of contacting people that even have accepted me, its incredibly dumb and one of the many reasons this game lost 99% of its playerbase after 2 months

[wheat bolt]

tldr: bro wants to yap ingame

[worldly scaffold]

Played since open beta before release, imo balance with weapons seems good now, but single weapon still is ridiculous, Mp5. I know people will push back on this, but hey, that is my experience playing almost daily.

[west trellis]

it's a little thing.. but I wish the crash dummy and glitchy s2 battlepass skin types had female voices for female body types

[restive sphinx]

Agree

[lime fable]

Kinda tired of every single mode of every single game having sbmm, its a shame i cant relax on this game and its instead become a sweat fest for a very small playerbase

[molten fox]

Terminal attack event bug where I have completed it, logged in & out multiple times & waited a couple days. Still dont have the cns script-shirt you get for completing it.

[covert marlin]

I experienced a really weird bug just recently. The tournament round started, I spawned and couldn't use my weapon, specialization and any gadgets. After I died and respawned the weapon and gadgets worked again. But for rest of the round I couldn't use my specialization. It was the healing beam in this case. This has happened to me before (like every 50 rounds)

[golden rock]

Honestly I have just played a game where a single light with that weapon has been destroying our premade. Both from long and short range. It does feel really strong, might even be the strongest weapon light has. However I was intimidated when I tried to learn it so hopefully it is at least held back by having to be good at using it.

Honestly most of light weapons are scary, they kill so fast, but I think the class deserves it for how easy it dies. It could probably do with just a reload speed nerf to force it into more longer range engagements.

[untold haven]

+1 need to be able to build community ingame too

[deft valve]

Any opinions/feedback on the Seoul map for powershift?

[sullen garnet]

I only go up on the ranked ladder if I make it to the finals in plat 2. I've won the finals 3 times in a row one day and I still didn't rank up. I queued with my friend who just started ranked, and in a matter of 2 days he surpassed me into plat 1 even though i've spent much more hours grinding, and my performance being higher than his every single game due to me having more experience. Not understanding how this ranked system works is tilting and confusing.

[untold flint]

APS sucks nerf or vault it

[ripe herald]

Did they need the knife I’m not hitting any backshots after dodging lol but seriously.

[sudden tangle]

How to fix Light balance.

Light is impossible to balance for casual and ranked.

Have two slightly different versions of Light.

Casual Light is currently fine.
Ranked Light is pretty bad mainly due to one reason: how squishy it is.

Stun gun and cloak nerfs are good because they are unfun to fight against, but Light needs more survivability in ranked in order to be able to fulfill it's role as hyper mobile big damage precision flanker that picks off out of position targets and opportunistically looks for off angles to pump damage and disrupt enemy formations.

Give Ranked Light (tm) 25-50 shield hp that regenerates quicker than normal health. Start with 50hp extra (that's still a whole Light hp bar less than heavy atm) and then finetune it if needed.

[stuck trench]

Yeah man.

The FCAR. Because Medium is the only other class in the game.

Certainly not a 3rd option that was buffed by Light and Medium nerfs.

That'd be crazy.

[slate epoch]

i already posted a good light balance last night

[serene hill]

Start Upping The Ban Time When People Leave A Terminal Match.... TOO MANY FUCKING PEOPLE LEAVE A TERMINAL MATCH

[kind light]

Why there is no announecement about this? https://www.reachthefinals.com/leaderboard-terminal-attack

[upper citrus]

or........................ both......................

[lavish shard]

Very good feddback As main heavy in bank it 80% play whit light so buff light just for ranked is very good idea
For the heavy 2 last nerf and stop
Lewis 25 to 23
Rpg 2 ammo ~80 damage same reload speed

[worldly scaffold]

Make blocking players do something, right now it seems to do nothing. Suggestion, make it block players from matchmaking to your team in the casual playlist. Before someone says it does that, it does not, I have had blocked players in two matches in row in my team.

[gritty umbra]

https://youtu.be/k8L4E45rOu0?si=jX6EswxYwGpXasgA
this video had really good ideas for sponsors and long term progression

[quick coyote]

ROME MAP FOR A SEASON PLEASE. 🙏
Since THE FINALS has maps around all of the world like Las Vegas, Monaco, Seoul, etc. It would be fitting!

[dim sun]

i ask devs please try and use the dagger in a game and see how it goes.

[ripe verge]

i dropped 8 on my alt (G2) in ranked. you just gotta be smart with it

[versed bridge]

90% of the dash stab tech just doesn't work now due to a mistake

[torn shoal]

has anyone else had an issue with their healing beam not working?

[sleek dawn]

Yep. It won't work for the entire match when that happens, even dying doesn't work. Had to restart my game between rounds in the tournament to get it working again.

[pseudo breach]

This was an excellent video. Too bad it'll probably fall on deaf ears...

[jagged axle]

please remove sniper. who would care if it was gone

[halcyon shore]

me too

[slate epoch]

i was having this issue for a long time,,, idk what exactly fixed it but it seemed to fix around the time i swapped out my mechanical keyboard which was weird... it was having a few other issues when i ran Finals (volume control on keyboard would stop working, buttons would double press) is why i bothered in the first place, almost wonder if it was messing up my mouse's input and not like noticing the auto tracking for the healing gun when i moved my mouse around the screen (this also might have entirely been a coincidence that it stopped around that time lol, i'm not sure)

[gritty umbra]

embark is the only dev studio ik that legitimately listens to its community, u can see it in every facet of this game. i think the community needs to give more ideas like the ones in the video, actual feedback u know

[covert grail]

why am i getting ranked penalty and three arrows down after playing a powershift

[ebon hemlock]

I dropped you yesterday in Ranked. You had 0 kills in the final round 💀

[smoky gust]

rpg shouldn't deal that much damage

[tawdry adder]

Nobody who designs this game is diamond+ for a fact because the system is trash

[drowsy oriole]

If games are more competitive now, why are we losing over 100 ranks from a round 2 loss???

[upper citrus]

Make it so that you cannot reload the rpg until you have committed to shooting it

[atomic delta]

that or at least make it a bit more skill based through making it a projectile

[fluid anchor]

FORFEIT POSSIBILITY WITHOUT PUNISHMENT PLEASE

please let us forfeit this type of match without getting punished, they never came back btw

https://discord.com/channels/1008696016318513243/1237131035091927050

[jagged axle]

Maybe but it's inclusion means less close ranged fast paced combat which ruins the main aspect of the game

[dim sun]

devs im beggin yall fix the dagger by the next patch.

[kind light]

balance will be a shit until devs understand that they need specific rules for different modes. Nothing bad in making different conditions at different rules. We already can see special rules for Terminal Attack so i hope they will manage to split fun modes with a title ranked mode by providing some respect to L which is like 7% of pickrate in Plat+

[proper chasm]

since 2.6 I've gone from ranking up nearly every day to just meandering in a circle around plat 2 this is an incredibly thing annoying to happen mid season. It would be fine if I were just being dropped to the rank I belong in but I rank to play 2 win a few games then I get 3 or 4 matches in a row where I either get nocked out first round in all or just nocked out in second and I still derank then as soon as I hit plat 3 I get to the finals either win or lose and back to plat 2 to start the whole thing again

[sudden tangle]

agree, casual light is still overplayed, but i reckon it's because many light refugees from ranked just queue casual atm

[royal walrus]

anyone else get a bug where you can't use the activate/fire button (mouse1/rt), usually off of a revive?

[soft gorge]

https://tenor.com/view/side-eye-dog-suspicious-look-suspicious-doubt-dog-doubt-gif-23680990

[unique urchin]

Why can't I use mouse and keyboard on PS5 while playing cross play

[fading zealot]

I completed the event and have the glitch hoodie unlocked but I don't see it in my upper body clothes? Why? It's not until the event is over that you get bc I seen someone else with it

[livid vapor]

Visual bug, you need to complete 14 matches of Terminal Attack in order to complete that contract and get the hoodie

[gritty umbra]

faction wars!!!!!!! the video i linked earlier mentions it but it would be so insane to represent my boys at ospuze and further my own head cannon about my contestant while also being in a community wide effort while also possibly getting sponsor specific drip

[slim sun]

crdeator mode ?

[earnest sierra]

i hope more people have your knowledge because most people here just request too much unnecessary things and yappin abt a lot of things and only complaint about nonsense shit and in unprofessional way

[spark shard]

Completely alone since first second (no team mates), please do something to not get a penalty for these ranked matches: https://i.imgur.com/xf2mHq1.jpeg

[fluid anchor]

https://discord.com/channels/1008696016318513243/1237131035091927050 engage to help us

[proper chasm]

VAIIYA : Defending YOUR digital frontier.
I see VAIIYA as the classic big "secretly" evil company and I'm here for it

[glacial knot]

Nice the devs are starting listen to the community. I see a good future for the finals. Good job devs. Now im back

[signal glacier]

Cash box stuck in the deep in the sand in sandstorm Vegas, no way to get it out so sat there for 15 minutes

[pseudo breach]

Imagine losing a match to console players because hit registration is non-existent after 5pm EU

[gritty umbra]

i think itd be a perfect opportunity to really set itself apart from everyone else while giving uou the player and the game its own identity. dont get me wrong, i love the games art direction and the maps and skins and everything but it just needs that extra little push. like imagine VAIIYA being the sponsor you go to for the decked out military garb security task force look, but if your like me and thats not entirely your things thats alright because VOLPES theme is more edgey and cutting edge, or OSPUZE could be the sponsor u go to if you want that steeze and drip. all the while your fighting for your sponsor to be at the top and get the exclusive reward for being the sposor team at the top by the end or something

[inland heron]

Wen solo
Soon wen

[past granite]

anyone keep crashing? launching game

[upper citrus]

Make it so that you cannot reload the rpg until you have committed to shooting it

[dawn aspen]

Got to make the game more stable. Every game tonight has had someone DC in it.

[paper lichen]

Has anyone else gotten this error? Login failed due to a service interruption

[plucky perch]

@past granite @paper lichen I do. Went to talk to support. Apparently I’ve been banned. Won’t say why. Yet I’ve never cheated. An unjustified ban

[proper chasm]

While that does sound like it would be fun on the surface I can see that not going very well when people really want a cosmetic and they get shit on constantly because 1 or 2 of the companies are so much more loved than the others. I can only see it dividing the community even more beyond just the L vs M vs H and which one is more broken

[vestal plinth]

1. After the new patch, the HP indicator has become very small. It has become inconvenient to look at and navigate, especially when you are healing someone. Could you please return the old size of the HP for players and allies?

2. Could you add a separate button to disable the distance indicator above player names? It personally bothers me, and it would be great to have the option to turn it off.

3. It would be nice to have a section that displays the history of previous games with the ability to download a demo and review the game.

Thank you for your attention.

[mint surge]

Please give more contestant slots!
I love making characters and loadouts! 🥹
I always play through my six slots and try to get a win with each of them!

[pseudo breach]

Day 40 of asking to put map rotation on a timer for casual. Really sick of getting Horizon and or Vegas 90% of the time.

Also, can we please get South African servers and maybe a latency indicator?

[merry wharf]

I really wish I could buy the in-game clothing IRL.

[rigid oxide]

1. an endorsement option would be nice, as an alternative to adding someone you enjoyed playing with but don't want to friend

2. say you ping 2 objectives in succession, your character could say "get the box, then take it to A"

[violet elbow]

id love if yall gave 2 shits about the comp side that made your fucking game big but thats prolly too much to ask, your ranked players are quitting and your streamers are quitting, keep it up embark 👍

[torpid sky]

Bro lost hope😔

[gritty umbra]

i deffo think ranked needs work, but idk if trying to be the next comp shooter is the best move imo. theres two kinds of people that play the finals. the sweats and the people that love everything else about the game, not so much their preformance being the focus of the sesh

[ionic grail]

Genuinely, I dont see myself coming back for Season 3.

Nearly 1000 hours since release and i just cant see a reason to continue playing.
The events are cool and the cosmetics are insane, the maps and the visuals are breathtaking but everything else has failed to hold a candle to how it used to be.

Light is borderline unplayable. heavy is still oppressive, medium keeps on getting unjustly kneecapped, the actual changes that need to happen and have been begged for since CLOSED BETA 1 are still being ignored whilst the games direction is going more and more toward the casual demographic... Yes i know there's a "Bigger" casual playerbase, but when theres noone streaming the game, when the content dries up because all the competitive hypersweats quit what else will there be.

Genuinely tired of shit like RPG still being allowed to do 140 damage, tired of shit like barricade which was genuinely fucking fine as it was getting a indirect buff to its effectiveness, im tired of the skill gap getting smaller and smaller with each patch to the point where theres no skill involved its who gets carried by AA or Random Bullshit Gadget spam go.

Stun Gun is a waste of equipment, at this point just remove it from the game.
Glitch nades dont even work half the time anymore.
Invis is a joke and has become useless
Demat now sounds like a fucking jet engine going off in my ear
The FCAR shoots marshmallows with the worst initial accuracy in the game
There is ZERO identity to the medium class.

You have essentially watered everything down to nothingness and made the game less enjoyable to appeal to the vocal complainers who can barely hold a controller.

The Lobbies hardly work how theyre supposed to with frequent bugs, the ingame leaderboard doesnt even load properly,

Broken spawns, terrible matchmaking, hidden MMR has been a fuckin failure, noone allowed long range engagements, equipment spam is prevalent...

Grats embark, i hope yall turn it around because i know theres a passion and a love for the game but damn its depressing playing this game right now

[dusk forge]

ranked got even worse...unbelievable

[golden rock]

The thing about comp shooters is you cannot force them to exist. Blizzard tried that with Overwatch and the game was slowly declining from that point on with a lot of player frustration. Valve tried changing TF2 to include the version of comp they wanted and a lot of people stopped playing on valve servers even for casuals because the casual queuing got hit with the same changes as comp.

You have to cater to casual audiences, hope you build the playerbase and wait for leagues to appear, scout for them and support them when they emerge until you are eventually able to create a tournament for everyone that doesn't loose you money and at that point you can start getting into the e-sport status.

It's like coming up with a new sport, people who want to play professionally aren't gonna watch it, and who is gonna watch them if nobody likes the sport?

[wintry basin]

in 1440x1080 u cant choose a class...

[hazy hill]

Terminal attach feedback:

Attacking team wiping out defenders without even starting the decryption = instant win even if there are only seconds on the clock.

Defenders wiping the attackers still have to stop the decryption.

This is unbalanced.

Second, last match refused to load me in with my partner. Match started without me, I go to restart and get hit with a leaving penalty.

Players are now killing themselves on the losing side at the end of matches to avoid leaving penalty.

General feedback: let us re-roll circuit contracts using VRs. I don't want to play Quick Cash ever.

[unreal fossil]

That type of feedback is why the gaming community does not deserve a game like The Finals.

It feels like no one ever has anything positive to say about the game. Just endless complaints all day long.

This must cause insane mental strain on the dev team, trying to keep up with and digest all that backlash.

If I was a dev for this game, I would have probably thrown the towel and told everyone to f* off already. But I guess they're more patient than I am.

I'm not pretending that the game is perfect, there are things to criticize, fix, improve, whatever.

But a lot of the things I read are straight up offensive. The Embark team clearly does not deserve this. They've been updating the game almost every week. Some AAA studios don't even do that on games that you PAY for.

[pseudo latch]

Day 52 of me begging the devs to give heavy an M134 Minigun as a Specialization.

• 200 Round magazine, ammo is restored two bullets every second, 100 seconds for a full reload.
• 20 rounds per second, eleven damage a round, 220 DPS
• Falloff begins at 30 meters down to six damage a shot at 50, but wide spread means the weapon becomes less effective past 10 meters even against larger targets
• bullets do high damage to structures (should be breaking walls in 20-50 shots) allowing a mid-range option to output mass destruction (destroying entire walls on higher floors of buildings, ripping apart nesting sightlines)
• • significant damage to structures and players
• • gun can be pre-spooled with RMB over having an ADS (for obvious reasons, you try to aim down the sights of a water cooler)|
• • high suppressive force through sheer amount of bullets being fired
• • its a goddamn minigun
• - Heavy cannot jump or sprint while holding it, has to switch back to primary
• - lengthy equip-unequip time to balance such, no “pocket minigun” strats, choosing to use this is a commitment
• - gun has to spool up for a second before firing, spool up being LOUD

[river plover]

he said keep it up at the end smh how is that not positive

[acoustic edge]

It's a particularly stupid thing to say too, because they're actively focusing on making ranked better, and the last patch has been great for ranked.
All my tourneys since the patch have all been in the same tier within 3 ranks, which is really quite impressive given how many people go into each tournament.

[odd atlas]

I'm pretty sure there's a small error where killing someone says +250 instead of 200

[drowsy oriole]

well said 👏

[sudden tangle]

gotta hand it to embark, games actaully good. slight buff to hp for ranked light and game will be crisp 10/10

[flat shale]

@split laurel Hello I'm just trying to get in touch with an employee Because Just want to say y'all shouldn't be removing features and calling it a ""glitch""" Yall removed keyboard and mouse from the finals on console and I made a song about it. Who is with me console keyboard worriers!!!!!!!!!!!!!song link: https://gemoo.com/tools/upload-video/share/646233576679428096?codeId=M076GrE56bJgX&card=646233574401921024&origin=videolinkgenerator

[devout aspen]

https://medal.tv/games/the-finals/clips/2bD6VoAJiDtoHM/d1337fGX8Z7T?invite=cr-MSxWTUIsNzk0OTE1NzIs

[serene hill]

PLEASE MAKE YOUR GAME OPTIMZATIONS BETTER IN SETTINGS DAY 1 OF ASKING

[tawdry adder]

Fix jump pad slide it got bugged this patch. Used to be able to slide right away after you place a pad now you just crouch if you do it too fast.

[bold moth]

All I ask is for the Medium's GL to deal a bit more self damage

[tired girder]

Sbmm seems improved with the new tournament structure.

Please stop nerfing gadgets and weapons though. Nerfing isn't the only way to create balance. It just ends up slowing down the pace of matches.

[quick coyote]

Heavy is now the most powerful class in the game. They now have the fastest killing weapons out of all of the classes, and on top of that they have 350 HP

[river hill]

New Game Mode: Gun game with no abilities & utilities

[violet elbow]

this.

[iron flint]

now? He has been the most op class since the betas brother

[pseudo latch]

Oh no guys, the kings of complainers might not come back for season 3, whatever will we do without them taking up the discord with their whining?

[kind light]

I got TRIPLE ARROW DOWN playing in solo against this shit. You should give a raise to the guy who changed ranked system in the middle of the season while you write dev note how bad it would be for a players

[tranquil storm]

Hello, I'd like to express my frustration regarding the current state of the dagger.

It was never a particularly good weapon, however this recent patch has completely destroyed any value that it could previously provide. The dash-backstab/akiba step technique was removed in 2.6, I'm assuming it has something to do with the way the new backstab hitbox registers.

Whether it was intended to remove this technique or not doesn't matter to me, as far as I know it was considered an exploit but even then, it was the only way a dagger player could provide any sort of value to the team by diving into a squad and getting a kill or two using this technique. It gave you a solution when you were staring down the barrel of a Medium or Heavy instead of instantly getting melted trying to run away. It was a high risk/high reward strategy and required a good amount of skill to pull off effectively, and boy was it satisfying.

However after this recent patch, it is with no question the absolute worst weapon you could pick for any possible scenario. Backstabs don't work half the time due to the new hitbox behavior, if the enemy turns ever so slightly in any direction your backstab will most likely not be registered and you will get killed instantly.

Trying to run up/drop down on a player seeking a backstab is very hard since any semi-competent player will hear your footsteps and just turn around, previously I could have used the dash-backstab technique to solve that situation by dashing behind them as they turned around to get the backstab, but the removal of the technique is forcing me to rely on basic movement and most of the time it's all for nothing since they will hear me the moment I come up behind them.

I just feel like complete dead weight that my teammates have to drag across the arena. It's frustrating for them and for me because I can't get anything done and even when I do get a kill I feel like I have to work twice as hard compared to before this update.

[stuck trench]

Best feedback in this channel so far

[river plover]

Real 😔

[devout aspen]

nerf stungun and just light in general, class is wayyyy too OP
and please buff heavys, for example the rpg, 140dmg is way too weak

[terse lark]

real. embark please make this game good

[manic compass]

You're joking... right?

[warm crown]

😭 atp the devs should just do what they want and completely ignore us

[restive plank]

No embark should cut light build 1 leg so light build are unable too walk

[mental blaze]

Can there please be penalties for leaving quick matches? I've now had 4 matches in a row where I lose one or both teammates every 20 seconds and end up solo for the last 10 minutes of the game, even if we're the winning team.

[tulip flume]

Please remove the inactivity warning in ranked, no reason to kick somebody for that if they’re not getting backfilled anyway

[fluid ravine]

wasted so much money on bundles like the city lancer when all I wanted was the skin, now they want to add the option to buy single items from the bundles smh, refund‼️

[supple abyss]

I hope embark realizes a large majority of the player base feels this way, but they are just not as vocal. Some of the best feedback in this channel and it's sad to think it's not gonna get embarks attention.

[lean birch]

Please put mouse and keyboard back to console embark

[mystic robin]

why cant i reconnect to my ranked match? i was in the prematch lobby when i was fixing something i hit my power butten i quickly turn my pc back on and load up the finals and i cant reconnect even tho the match is only halfway done and now im banned for a 20 min

[pearl pelican]

Plat/Dia lobbies are only fucking heavies. How are the devs just neglecting the fact that the class is completely fucking broken. I play light or medium and struggle. I switch to heavy and go on a killing frenzy. Anyone that says this class isn't busted is probably the worst player ever

[kindred wedge]

Yes

[violet elbow]

I dont even know where to start with this game, ranked spawns are awful, ranked point System is awful cuz it just promotes playing for 10s of hours a week, balancing is genuinely the worst its ever been (somehow).

the UI, Sound, QOL and Cosmetics have never been better than lately but ranked is in the worst state its ever been in and personally I will just go back to playing Apex, as somebody who has been in love with what this game once WAS during open beta and beyond

[upper citrus]

game has literally never been in a better state. once rpg and lewis are nerfed as well as lh1 to prevent a degenerate instakill meta, we will be so back

[queen cloud]

this. Only thing i liked about latest patch was the audio 😄
This season I got d4 early and didn't bother griding anymore, didn't care whatsoever. Season 1 I was going for top 500 but got bored quick because of nukes.

[lavish shard]

when the devs understand that they have to separate the ranked from the casu for balancing it will be much better for example I play only in bank it is 80% playing in light while the ranked is only MMH or HHM given 50hp more in light but only in ranked
Lewis 25 to 23
Rpg 2 ammo ~80 damage same reload speed

[south gale]

Sooooo same game with a diamond on my team and we get the same place and he gets 2 positive arrows… and I get 2 negative arrows…. How is that even a thing? We were on the same team and got the same place… wtf is going on embark

[merry holly]

Got put against a cheater twice. First time, I reported and blocked him. A couple of matches later and it queues him against me again. I go to report once more, with it giving me the option to block the player. I clicked it for shits and giggles, and it unblocked that person for some reason

[barren yew]

can anyone please tell me how to get my xlr mic to work with this game?

[bleak coral]

There's a few things there that I'm going to comment on.

"Nearly 1000 hours since release and i just cant see a reason to continue playing."

yes I found myself also questioning what there is to actually do, if you are max level, diamond in ranked, unlocked everything, have all the skins you want.
what, grind leaderboard placement? what is the point, seeing as the lobbies diamond players get ARE NOT diamond lobbies.
i've found myself just playing casually now and again on the new modes, but for what? there is a lack of progression, anything to grind or achieve at all.

"theres noone streaming the game, when the content dries up because all the competitive hypersweats quit what else will there be."

I agree, a big part of the competitive community left the game the moment there was no private-matches on release. not just that, but they allowed nukes in the game for the entirety of season 1. As well there was zero message from Embark about the competitive scene, and still no official tournaments announced - meaning why risk your career on a game that has ZERO money being spent on esports. Scrims banned nukes and HHM because they were not competitive.
BUT they DID nerf all of these, MESH shield nerfed, nukes outright removed.
They also have nerfed defib an insane amount of times, nerfed c4, rpg, H auto shotty, L shotty, and stun glitch invis fcar...

All of these things were nerfed because the competitive community KNEW they were all broken (because they play the game every day for 10h), and the stats backed it up.

that moves onto the next
"who gets carried by AA or Random Bullshit Gadget spam go." and then mention the stun, glitch, invis, fcar.

all of those things were incredibly uncompetitive with very little counter-play INCLUDING recon which they removed.
Unless you are mad about that those things specifically were nerfed because of competitive?
As all those things were better for the casuals? excluding fcar.

"You have essentially watered everything down to nothingness"

completely disagree, everything that has been nerfed into the ground so far has been GOOD for the game - some changes more than others.
all of these things are inevitably going to be changed again, and again and again.
in a year, the entire balance of the game WILL make more playstyles viable because that has been what Embark has already been doing.

"Broken spawns, terrible matchmaking, hidden MMR has been a fuckin failure, noone allowed long range engagements, equipment spam is prevalent"

completely agree, ESPECIALLY the spawns. the fact you can pinpoint where teams are going to spawn COMPLETELY BREAK the entire flow of the game the EXACT reason recon was a MUST PICK.
there needs to be dynamic spawning where the game figures out where all the other players in the lobby are, where the cashouts are, and spawn you in a location which is an optimal place. it should be impossible to know the exact location of where a team spawns.
although, every fps shooter has terrible matchmaking, MMR etc so im not too mad about that.

Lastly, I'm just going to say that Embark is the goat. They have fixed bugs, balanced things dozens of time in a season, added lots of content AND skins. NO OTHER FPS GAME gets this treatment. Yes they can be slow on specific things in the game, and not have other features that many games have BUT they are getting there.
other games stay in the same state for YEARS, and this game barely stays the same between seasons.

[wintry basin]

Maybe because game is becoming shittier with every patch...

[dim sun]

this is literally how every bomb defusal game mode works. dont comment again. the only thing unbalanced about TA is the terminals are just thrown into the already existing maps randomly. So if its defender sided or attacker sided is completetly based off of rng and spawns

[hardy falcon]

Not if you aren't finished with the BP. Like I said, I managed my time according to what Embark released and what I paid for. I have enough XP left to finish the standard battle pass, but there isn't enough left to finsih these new pages. If they are going to add new pages, they need to add enough XP to get them.

[fiery monolith]

Guys, please change the steal 15-time cashout mission in this pro circuit. It's very difficult. I played too many matches and I barely got to level 7. I can't do it. It didn't need to be this hard.you change

[slow saffron]

Please implement penalties for those that leave the game. I know sometimes the game crashes, those who suffer from it shouldn't be penalized. But those that willingly leave casual quick play games just hurt their team members. Thanks!

[crude cape]

I didn’t get my jacket for the terminal

[warm crown]

Best fps game ever keep working on it embark as long as as this game continues to be updated I will continue to keep coming back

[chrome basin]

So is light getting a buff soon? Because whats the point when this class is literally underpowered in every way when put up against the medium and heavy. I reached diamond using only light just to see. And you are just shooting yourself in the foot tbh picking this class

[sly arch]

Give us three more contestant slots, sell them for 3000 vrs each.

[novel zephyr]

Why do you have SEVERAL circuit contracts to deposit 150K cash and 75K cash. Absolutely tedious and unfun!

If you're playing solo this is extremely hard to attain, unless you're grinding it! Contracts shouldn't make you grind the game. But I'm forced to play Cash modes (which I highly dislike).

On top of that, Bank It mode doesn't even count team deposits. I thought this was a team game? So if I help the team, and my teammate deposits, I'm screwed either way.

Reduce it. Change it. Get rid of it. Whatever.

And yeah I know there's still time to complete it, but that's not the point, I shouldn't be forced to grind certain modes, if I can deposit 5k-10k on average each game optimistically, that's still 30 games I have to grind. Every other contract is fine, but this is just beyond grindy.

[stuck geyser]

not a big fan of the deposit contracts either, same with the steal a cashout ones as they rely a lot on your teammates. they're not bad, just too frequent, and powershift dosen't count. even for stealing they could accept taking the platform and winning during overtime

[violet elbow]

replace ranked tournament with a 3v3 first to 30k. this alone would solve so many balance issues as light is a lot more viable in 3v3 and team comps built on sustaining wouldnt be as important because there wouldnt be any ratting.

knockout rounds are genuinely terrible and i dont think anyone likes them. it feels like playing a BR.

Moving to 3v3 would make queue times nearly instant and would also make a good ranked system 10000x easier to implement and understand for players.

to make the 3v3 not boring, speed up respawns and close respawn distance, rework the coin system as an alternate objective, and lower the coin time.

finally, bring back unranked tournament at full length (4 rounds) and put a 50 multibuck reward behind winning a tournament every week. this would keep the mode competitive and fun without being way too sweaty. and also incentivize people to keep playing the core finals experience for fun, even if the tournament format is very flawed.

by @upper citrus.

my take:
a 3v3 tourney Type System would actually make ranked competitive, Knockout rounds SUCK ASS at higher than bronze elo because it just becomes, 3rd Party simulator on the easier to push cashout, the knockout tournament system doesnt work and isnt competitive, we desperately need a Change
( @pearl kiln i know its generally a bad thing to ping you on stuff but PLEASE there is quite a significant general consensus in the ranked community that knockout rounds suck and cashout system as it is right now isnt competitive, 3v3 would quite literally save ranked)

[glass copper]

yet u keep playing

[hazy hill]

Cool, thanks, I'll just uninstall.

[low galleon]

There's a weird thing going on with the goo gun and power shift platform. I've noticed that in power shift you get stuck just for being around goo that's already placed which makes sense until I give furthur explaination.

When goo grenades, canisters, and goo gun are used on non moving surfaces, you can touch them and you won't get stuck on them. But on the power shift platform and only the powershift platform (Other moving surfaces don't have this problem) you get stuck on them even if you don't touch them. Sometimes it's like you get sucked into the goo. I'm talking about goo that was already.

The other problem is the power shift platform actually being so bugged. Somes you can't even climb out of the powershift platform even if the platform is evened out. Especially as a light vaulting over the wall is literally impossible sometimes for no reason and other times the plateform won't even let you move. Like you get stuck on nothing at times. With out fail these bugs had lead to my death near 100% of the time.

Getting stuck on nothing in this game is kinda normal and not being able to activate climb animations when they are supposed to activate is something that occurs daily but I over look it but the power shift gamemode just seems to be where everything can and will go wrong. I think the engine is the main issue here mainly because I've used unreal engine for years in school. So I understand how janky it is to work with especially with animations but I just needed to get that off my chest. I think getting stuck on goo makes sense because it's goo, but it's not consistent which is where the frustration comes from, but also dealing with getting stuck because the goo wall is a couple feet from you while you're on the power shift obj or just getting stuck on air make the frustrations more agonizing when you die and get tea bagged from a player who is struggling to get more than 1 kill.

If you need any clarifications, just let me know. I can iron things out a bit more with less rush.

[tall sapphire]

THE FINALS was a good game. I don't see the need to nerf literally every weapon possible and their specialities

[light pecan]

LH1 has too much visual movement and recoil, big issue when its on the "movement" class, I shouldnt be forced to give up my only advantage to make use of my weapon. needs a visual movemnt buff if anything. Flashbang could use a duration / radius buff, the hitmarkers are super misleading, and moving into a room after getting the hit marker and immediately getting beamed is getting old. flashbang needs to only have hit marker on full flash, and full flash needs a duration buff due to the mechanics of the game

[pearl pelican]

were you even here when heavies were even more op than they already are. The only reason the game lost so many players if because the devs have no idea to balance shit. nukes were in the game for 3 months. fuckign idiots

[reef jasper]

nice my entire team and I dc all at once.. DDOS in games now...

[slate epoch]

the goo just becomes a solid on hard surfaces, the movement of the platform causes the goo to stay in gelatinous state and will eat you if you accidentally touch it nodding scientifically

(i do know what you're talking about actually though, it's really weird, it sucks you in lmfao)

[topaz ledge]

i think that crossplay should be turned off. in order for the game to become more competitive, players with computer assisted aim should be put against other players with computer assisted aim. The whole point of aim assist was to give controller players a chance against mnk, which indicates a skill disparity between using raw controller input and mouse and keyboard input.

[lavish shard]

Add 50 hp to light only in ranked
Lewis 25 to 23 damage
Rpg 2 ammo ~80 damage
Back old barricade

[wary galleon]

That's valid, being able to switch back to your weapon faster would definitely be a good implementation to it

As it stands it's never a contender for being in the load out if I'm playing serious, it's not as good as a frag

It feels like the flash lasts forever when I get hit by them 😭😭😭

[gritty umbra]

oh no i can't abuse spammy borderline exploitative mechanics anymore, i hate this game 😠

idk kinda sounds like a skill issue bro

not gonna say matchmaking and ranked doesnt need work or there arent bugs, but comparable to most games that come out embark be killing it.

[plush plume]

I am not really sure about the balancing philosophy behind cloak, why have something like invisibility but nerf it until it is easy to see? Isn't the point of being invisible to not be seen? If you really don't want invis in your game then replace it with something else like you did with recon but the state cloak is in right now is just pathetic and doesn't make sense at all.

[worn sigil]

Goo is a great defensive tool but I don't think they've programmed the mechanics with the platform properly.. the only way I've seen where people get stuck is when the platform gets hit by explosives or when it's about to turn/change direction, then the reverse gravity or whatever sucks you into the goo. 🤔 I personally experienced these methods too.

@violet elbow wdym the general consensus is that knockout rounds suck? NANNIIII who are you speaking for? It's literally called THE FINALS!
The change to 3 rounds instead of 4 is a great move already, and in my personal experience I don't get any platinum or diamond players in my Gold 1 lobbies anymore thanks to the matchmaking update.
Every game is a third party simulator, but in this particular game, it's to be expected but that doesn't mean it's bad. Annoying yes, especially solo, but easily manageable.
Overall ranked is moving in a good direction. They already said the main change will happen at the beginning of next season in 4 weeks. So look forward to that.

@sugii.#0000 I agree with most of what you are saying just gonna chip in a bit.

• Barricade still gets destroyed by frags so not a problem for me, and as a light grappler I have high ground anyway shooting down.
• RPG is annoying but I have no problem going against it now but I do believe it should be used more for destruction.
• I hate stun gun (even as a light main) so I'm fine with removing it.
• Glitch Nades work all the time for me (minus APS of course!)
• hidden MMR is annoying to determine rank but I'm still getting promoted so all good
• love long range with the sniper

@cabbageboii.#0000 cross-play shouldn't be turned off completely. When I'm playing solo I do turn it off (on PS5) but when I'm playing with friends (who are on PC) it's obviously on. Turning it off means I can't play with friends in ranked. What's the point in that?

[snow panther]

here to give some daily hate and tell you guys im never playing finals again unless they rework the cloak nerf....

[topaz ledge]

@worn sigil it's to create a more competitive ranked scene. playing with friends is a situation i understand and it makes sense to have crossplay on in that instance. However, my hope is that the finals becomes more of a competitive game. Playing with your friends in ranked isnt really a competitive aim, its more of a social one, you want to progress and advance with people you know, however it skews skill-based performance if one friend who is less skilled is able to do more with a controller. One example of a game where I think has a thriving comp scene is valorant. The limited platform removes any skill bias from a different input source. You're right in that crossplay shouldnt be turned off completely, but I think it should be turned off for ranked.

[near lava]

Cross play with Pc and console shouldn’t be forced at ALL. Look at Ubisoft the king of fucking up every IP they have and making shit games. Despite it all with r6 Even they made it possible for console to play with PC in casual and ranked but as a ONE WAY street. Meaning console can get into a PC lobby by queuing up with PC Peeps but PC can’t get console lobbies. It will always put them with other PC players no matter what exactly how it should be. Anyone who thinks PC vs console is actually fair does not actually play competitive games and has no clue how it works. That was 100000% embarks fuck up and they should own up to it.

[random topaz]

Remove fucking low gravity, fucking annoying when ur a medium or heavy bruh. THIS legit give advantage to lights with evasive dash bruh...

[fluid anchor]

FORFEIT POSSIBILITY WITHOUT PUNISHMENT PLEASE

please let us forfeit this type of match without getting punished, they never came back btw

[pastel tiger]

Hello! Maybe it was intentional, but the dagger has been changed a lot since the animation changes in 2.6. Now it is impossible to hit the dash and then stab combo, and back stabs in general seem a LOT more difficult. I'd love to see the dagger back to its original state! Thanks.

[restive berry]

Diamond lobbies are just HHM with the same exact loadouts, 1 mesh, 1 charge, 1 heal, 4 barricades, 2 bubble shields and 2 rpgs. It's so hard to play against and is creating a really stale meta where no one dies because there's just too much HP to get through.
When this bleeds in to casual games people are gonna get tired of it real fast.
My group runs 2 APS turrets and glitch nades purely to try to counter it, but that isn't enough sometimes.
Each section of the barricade takes like 4-5 mags from the FCAR, and you can't fit through with just one section missing, you need to shoot 8-10 mags in to the barricade to make a hole big enough, that's just way to strong imo.

Something needs to be done about the shields, because if a team running HHM has like 1500hp more than us, aaaaand also have a way to delete someone with 2 RPGs, it's just far too strong. Give the mesh and bubble shields a weak spot maybe?
Once again diamond lobbies are plagued with it atm, it will trickle down soon.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/975450599237767289/1237203195571339314/MedalTVTHEFINALS20240506183032.mp4?ex=663acac3&is=66397943&hm=5eab31cc89b60c2742c604c42e89c8517a1a0ee2cf4c72d3d84740ca104b4347&

[drowsy oriole]

this current rank system is AWFUL

[hearty hemlock]

what should we do abt heavies

[slate epoch]

hug

[compact trellis]

how do i report bugs 🤔

[frail viper]

Is anyone else currently having an issue with the event contracts? I had completed all the requirements for the event to get the sweater but its not popping up in my wardrobe

[lavish shard]

Its impossible to balanced casu and ranked
In quik play the game is pretty balanced light can play

[worn sigil]

@near lava @topaz ledge I think I see both of your points but I guess I was thinking more of that they can change cross-play so a PS5 and PC party like myself and my friend for example, are going up against the same type of party of PS5 PC and not full stack pc or full stack console players.. if that makes sense? 🤔
Would that still make it competitive @topaz ledge for you, and less forced for @near lava for you? Or should PS5 cross-play users verse pure PC players?
Or did I misunderstand again?

@.bubblebeard.#0000 for barricades if they're hiding behind them I just frag it, waste of time shooting them

[real moon]

FIX THE DAGGER

[delicate yoke]

The light class needs a massive buff. Heavy and medium typically have a much higher damage output than the light, even though light is meant to be a glass cannon and do tons of damage. Also, repeatedly nerfing the light class while giving very little back only worsens the situation. We need to move from a nerf heavy meta to one where weapons and gadgets can get buffed every week, allowing the meta to shift constantly and consequently bringing more players back to the game who found it stale.

[slow sandal]

maybe it would be OP but I wish dematerializer was a gun

[placid hazel]

Nga what

[river plover]

please fix the dagger we are coping so hard we are coming up with new tech called the "shitfuck stab"
please we are literally going insane

all you have to do is revert the dagger to how it was in 2.5 for any dagger enjoyers to be able to play the game again

[topaz ledge]

@worn sigil ig if mixed parties were put against other mixed parties it would be more "fair" in the overall sense, but for a mixed lobby it would still be inherently less equal in terms of skill within the lobby, when compared to other "pure" lobbies. Also, the idea of queueing with your friends making your ranked experience less, or at least differently, skill-based doesn't seem like the best way to implement a sbmm.
I think the best way to resolve this is to think about the goal of ranked. If you want to queue with your friends, is your primary goal to play the best you can against other players of similar skill or is it to have fun with friends? Both goals can be present, but the question is which one takes priority. I don't want to alienate a huge player base by restricting the platforms the finals is played on, but I also don't want to make true sbmm impossible with unresolvable differences between kbm and controller. There's only so much the devs can do to try to make the skill to performance ratio equal when playing on console vs pc, but at the end of the day the experiences are drastically different with different kinds of skill required to be good at each platform. That's why I'm holding firm on the suggestion that ranked should be split, but I do agree with your point about the value of having a social aspect to the game.

There's also the thing about how controller is diff for each class, eg. light is more movement based, so controller is worse for light unless you have crazy high sens, which means more aim assist to compensate, heavy is more stationary so aiming while not moving/behind cover and barricades is more beneficial so aim assist doesn't need to be as strong, but im not going to go into that.

[sour crescent]

left click bug is still plaguing the game btw

[junior dawn]

can yall fix the discord overlay bug. like it never works for this game

[pearl pelican]

What ele do you expect from ex battlefield devs. It took them 3 months just to remove nuke. 3 fucking months. By that time 90% of their community already left. Now heavies are going to be broken for another 3 months with no changes. A literal 7 year old could of pointed out 3 major issues 2 days after the game came out and there would be 99% less complaining. Instead they do a whole bunch of bullshit that no one asked for. Actual dog shit devs

Every single ranked round, my random team mates always complain about heavy, it never fails. And they always ask the same question "why tf was light nerfed". I honestly feel like they are going for the world record book of how fast can they kill the game.

Only mfs that complain about light are people in the discord. Ive never meat one person in game that has the same opinion.

And the ranked system is so ass. If you loose in diamond you get minus 3 arrows even if you make it to the last round. If you win you get 1 fucking arrow. like what the FUCK THEY HAVE NO FUCING BRAIN

[river hill]

Bro chill

[night surge]

lmao why gotta cry so loud tho

[jagged cedar]

He's right tho. Also fix dagger

[fleet sedge]

Has any one else been having troubles receiving the rewards from the "Terminal Attack Event"? Because I am missing the hoodie and a friend is missing the emote.

[worn sigil]

Cool fair enough 👍🏽 when I play ranked solo it's to be the best I can be (non cross-play or cross-play if I can't find a lobby), and when I'm playing with a friend, we're both competitive and play the best we can consistently

@fleet sedge you gotta play 14 matches to receive everything.. don't know why it's 14, it just works 🤣

@novel zephyr yeah it's a team game after all. I think they thought everyone will do quick cash or ranked for it

[novel zephyr]

Make Bank It count team deposits towards your circuit contract. It's stupid that it doesn't because other modes do.

[tawdry adder]

Losses are not punishing enough if you lose you should go down 1 rank (i.e. plat 3 to plat 4) this will help weed out anyone who is unskilled. (If you get trolled or have a cheater oh well)

[hardy bridge]

give us irl merch

[dim sun]

devs if the dagger isnt fixed by next patch imma back stab myself

[cerulean rune]

Please fix the bug where heal beam dosent work for an entire match

[coral axle]

TERMINAL ATTACK MUSIC ON SPOTIFY OST

[sour crescent]

please fix left click bug it has been in since launch devsss

[river plover]

devs if the dagger isnt fixed by next patch imma akiba stab someone irl

[unborn shell]

bro add a tdm style

[violet basin]

I'd like to set a different emote from the introduction for when I win a match, I think it would be nice

[obsidian plinth]

is there any reason as to why there isnt a text chat in this game?

[rapid stream]

Embark is too lazy to add it

[pearl pelican]

when you die leave and rejoin. only fix for rn

[jagged cedar]

Give us dagger back

[flat peak]

first time using the light's shotgun..... it sucks complete ass

[frail wave]

Like Valorant or Counter Strike, when a Cashout is 10 seconds away, the Cashout Music should speed up or play different music

It seems pointless, but it helps new players better understand when they should play aggresive/passive

[unique wasp]

I kind of believe mesh shield should get the recon sense or defib treatment. What's made Heavy consistently strong is their tank- it's also the least interesting thing about them, both to fight and to play. Previous Heavy nerfs have reduced Heavy's strength a bit, but stuff like RPG no longer being able to cover the sledgehammer's biggest weakness and the lowered demolition potential of C4 have made Heavy a little bit less fun to play. Not to say that Heavy shouldn't have damage mitigation potential, but I don't know if a giant freely toggleable wall of health that stacks with dome shield is the way to do it.

[white cosmos]

The update to ranked tournaments is ruining the previous ranked experience. Before you could win 1-2 rounds and receive somewhere between 1 up to 1 down arrow(give or take depending on ranked). After the new update, every game that you do not get to the final round will result in loss of arrows which is a ridiculous change. we understand that this was because of multiple reasons. 1. The length of the overall tournament, now you are forced to play all the way to the finals whether you like it or not just to get an up arrow. 2. Better matchmaking, for one this will always be an issue in any game except now we are still being matched with people up to 3 ranks above us and then being penalized when not beating them and making it to the finals. These changes may be an overall quality of life fix for the game but making them in the middle of a season randomly with no warning is absurd.
The health bar and names should have there own settings per person. Not some set version that can change randomly.

[rancid cloud]

Please fix dagger. I should be able to stab a player in the back at the END of the animation, when the actual damage PROCs. I should not have to be looking at the other player’s back at the beginning of the animation too.

[restive berry]

They should give the sword the same treatment. The fact that someone can right click the sword, lunge, miss me, but because they’re dangling the sword in front of them when they turn, it still procs, feels janky and off

[versed dagger]

make dagger even close to F tier maybe higher if we are lucky

[tawdry adder]

The fcar is still op. The multiple damage and recoil nerfs were not enough. Personally I think to help aid the more casual and low rank players there should be a 50% chance if you are platinum+ that one of your bullets is a blank, and anybody gold and below does not have this chance.

[rapid stream]

Fcar is fine rn tbh

[pearl pelican]

leaked patch notes for next Wednesday:

• heavies get 3 rps and do 5x more damage (they werent op enough)
• if you pick light you cant run anymore
• if you dont pick heavy you get banned
• ranked progression was made even worse
• fuck you

[placid elm]

This is true. Mesh shield dome shield meta is so unfun

[solemn linden]

Charge n slam nerf when?

[dim sun]

PREACH i had so much fun on the dagger and now it is literally unplayable. its not even just bad anymore it was already debatbly the worst weapon in the game but rewarded you for practice and skill but now it is LITERALLY UNPLAYABLE not only did they get rid of dash stabbing people all together. you can still be RIGHT BEHIND SOMEONE stab them directly in their back and it not count as a backstab!! the hitbox is terrible

[bleak coral]

remove nukes

[rugged temple]

Rpg and defibs are too strong. They are both basically must have picks for heavy and medium respectively. Also revert dagger and stop nerfing the weakest class please.

[ebon tendon]

Out of 10 matches today- I've been Q'd into 8 straight matches with a teammate that is either unranked or 6-7ranks(sometimes even farther below) below my own. Some sort of matchmaking barrier needs to be added in to prevent lower MMR players getting into higher MMR games. There's no reason I should be on the same team or in the same game as someone that's nowhere near the skill level as the rest of the lobby. I'd rather play with 1 teammate that's either 1-2ranks below/above me or the same rank as myself, than have to babysit and guide someone who doesn't understand the basis of the game. It kills the drive to want to play competitively.

[clear drift]

I agree! Nukes have always been a major issue in this game, and it's high time the devs removed it from the game

[shy swan]

SUGGESTION:

• nerf heals and give heavy smoke grenades. also let thermal vision show team colors. and make power shift platform not move when your contesting the point. buff the glitch mine.

• give motion sensor higher range

• make dome shields detonate landmines

• nerf barricade hp cuz its still dominant

• buff some off meta things like the c4 sa12 range the flashbang the pyromine and glitch mine and the glitch grenade the v9s

IDEAS not suggestions:

• specialization or gadget that randomizes loadout (or the gadget?) slot on use
• healing bomb for light? or healing device or drone? stationary or mobile?
• semtex? light only? (timed sticky grenade)(smaller radius?)
• make the stunn or glitch more effective the higher the hp the enemy class has?

[real moon]

FIX THE DAGGER

[slender oasis]

Please add a "sorry" reaction for pings, and just a general ping choices expansion

[keen heath]

Please revert the Melee aim assist Melee weapons feel more buggy now since then

[cerulean echo]

scythe skin for hammer would be so sick

[supple tiger]

I love this game to my core, I have over 800 hours in this game by now and still, I crash constantly and its only been getting worse, it's gotten to the point where I crash every other game and it makes ranked unplayable for me, is there any reason why this is happening because I really want to be playing but I literally cant. I know you guys are extremely busy and have way more important things on your plate I understand how hard game development but please fix someday fix this I beg of you

[dim sun]

ya its crazy that they nerf stungun and their reason is "its a too dominant slot and this will allow other options" but defibs dome shield and rpg are more powerful and mainstays of the class

[jagged cedar]

make our weapon a weapon again 🙏

[thorn kelp]

Dagger mains, we must unite and rise up

[lime crane]

Fix long range sniping blur :(

[rough magnet]

terminal attack should definitely be a permanent mode imo

[half perch]

arrows system is confusing

[burnt dawn]

there should be be max 3 grenades in each class, maybe 4.
Light has 11... Can we replace those with some variety?

[quaint forge]

Bro, it took me three fucking weeks to fucking rank up from play 2 after deranking from plat 1… I just finally reached plat 1 and all of a fucking sudden I get light teammates that fucking throw and intentionally stay afk??? Fucking fix your sbmm, it takes me so fucking long tk rank up and then I immediately fucking derank because of my shit teammates and everyone is fucking cracked

[tacit patrol]

Bug:

I couldn't shoot or put down anything including my turret over an entire round and a half in TA. Opening and closing settings didn't work but I could left click in settings.

The thing that fixed it was picking up and throwing a barrel with left click

[midnight bison]

voice chat is broken

[reef jasper]

Anti cheat still just not doing anything really

[violet mulch]

The music from my boom box cuts out early for the people on my team and I'm just standing there in silence for them. This is the most important bug for you to fix

[rancid cloud]

It shouldn’t matter where the enemy is facing when I start my dagger backstab animation, it should only matter where the enemy is facing when the damage procs

[keen thistle]

Guys do you think my music could sound good in the menu https://share.icloud.com/photos/0b0g8Sn-9Fg_rBd2rMRqOdXtA

[terse lark]

yo please make this game more competitive again. Balancing towards "casuals" is not working. since season 2 dropped the player count has only went down. When I started playing in season 1 this game was so much fun, no it wasn't perfect but it felt so close to being something really special. but ever since the start of season 2 after every update things just get worse and worse.
you say you listen to the community but it don't feel like that. Every time a balance update rolls around it's like you devs pick a couple things at random some random casuals complain about and nerf it into the ground and ignore what the rest of the community is begging you to do. dagger still doesn't work, light is useless (wasn't good to begin with but after all the nerfs it's just unplayable), heavy is still the most oppressive class, you changed a ranked system most players thought was good and made it feel bad to play ranked and leaves players confused as hell on if they are close to ranking up or de-ranking. the medium class still has no identity they are essentially just sidekicks to heavies, healing them, defibing them, placing jump pads and zip lines for their heavy teammates to get around the map faster. and the anticheat still feels like it just isn't there at times.
many of us hope you devs make some big changes season 3 bc we want to love this game so much. you guys just make it hard sometimes to do that.

[sinful dawn]

BUG: Having a glitch where the game isn't giving me the Terminal Attack CNS hoodie reward. I've done all the challenges and gotten those cosmetics but not the hoodie. The challenge tracker for games of TA also keeps ticking up, it says I've done 11/10 games.

[graceful hollow]

do 14

[gritty umbra]

i think having a distinction between the casual and competitive eould be good. somewhere where sweaties can duke it out and somewhere where casuals dont have to play the meta to compete

[small valley]

i agree

[willow leaf]

How is heavy the most oppressive class? That title undeniably goes to medium. Most teams are MMM or MMH. Also medium will NEVER have a identity because it’s too generic and there are no more identities to give it. Light is already the fast sneaky glass cannon while heavy is the slow big tank. Light focuses on movement and heavy on destruction and defenses. What identity could medium have?

[naive burrow]

Revert the changes to ranked tournament

[finite briar]

this is something we need: https://youtu.be/k8L4E45rOu0
The game could feel more impactful if players felt like they had an influence beyond them.
Sponsored progression

[tulip dove]

Medium is more popular in number since it’s the standard do it all all class but Heavy is undoubtedly the most oppressive class in higher rank, the meta is HHM. It’s not even close

[pearl thistle]

Delete the heal beam boring as fuck nerf lewis and m60 heavy is too dominant compared to other classes

[halcyon dagger]

Me and my friend went into a ranked match without a teammate from the start and we lost ranked points for losing. This feels really unfair because it's not our fault we had to fight a 2v3 everytime sometimes 2v3v3 and still lost ranked points

[true harness]

We DESPERATELY need the ability to mute individual teammates, and not just ON/OFF of the entire team. Had a griefing player on our team, and I wanted to mute him in order to talk with my other teammate, but couldn't.

[real moon]

FIX THE DAGGER EMBARK

[strange ermine]

Flashbags working on teammates is kinda lame. It really sucks to have a random teammate just recklessly chucking flashbangs and getting you killed because they're not communicating.

[frank knot]

I mean they’re like that in almost every other fps

[sudden spire]

The TTK is way too fast now. I miss how it felt in the betas where you slowly whittle your enemies down instead of getting instantly deleted by burst damage

[proper ore]

Whos gonna tell him

[quartz cedar]

FIX THE DAGGER

[quick coyote]

Lmao Dead

[spare cape]

Please for season three add haptic adaptive trigger support for ps5 y’all gotta big following still on console, it would be a huge quality of life change please don’t overlook this 🙏🏾

[novel moat]

Most incorrect statement. HHM dominates the meta because heavy is so op it’s not even funny. Insane amount of damage output with rpg/charge/lmgs that have so much ammo and high dps. Also the highest health by an extra 100 hp. With a medium pocket healing the heavy just straight up doesn’t die. Heavy needs an overhaul and a LOT of changes to balance it. The speed of heavy isn’t even that much slower tbh and when you use bounces and zips correctly the effects of slower movement become negligible

[signal crag]

Suggestion, Let us be able to use 2 weapons at once instead of just 1

[rose vigil]

thanks for gyro updates. im loving the gyro toggle.

[drowsy stump]

You are just facing low skilled players. Lights that are genuinely good will stomp HMM team. Low skilled players never fought high skilled lights. I’ve watched em stomp teams. High DPS with ability to evade quick.

[terse lark]

youre just plain wrong most comps are MMH HHM or just HHH. light is a glass cannon without the cannon

[rugged temple]

Light is practically irrelevant in the meta. Of course a light can do well, but the skill required is much much higher than M or H just to be on the same level. Medium and Heavy are so much stronger it's not even close and yet light keeps getting nerfed.

[real scroll]

terminal attack should have a ranked mode

[willow leaf]

I guess we play different games cause that is not my experience at all

[broken lake]

My RPG and Lewis gun's honest assessment of your skilled light players:

[quartz cedar]

Sure, in bronze and silver light is pretty good..

Start playing in plat / diamond, light is nothing else than a free kill, most the time.

[shut aspen]

Would it break the game if they added the ability to modify your guns with different optics and barrel mods? Nothing else just those two features. It would be really cool to see the AKM with a ACOG or the light sniper having an iron sight but at the same time that I'm pretty sure the meta would change drastically. Just a thought lol

[mint lintel]

Yes.. yes it would sure would love that holo of my akm

[opaque sentinel]

Here is why Embark Studios's hit multiplayer first-person-shooter video game THE FINALS would benefit from a free-to-play male pattern baldness hair option:

Attracting an Older Playerbase
By age 50 approximately 85% of men have significantly thinning hair. By adding male pattern baldness to THE FINALS, Embark Studios could capitalize on a much older playerbase and greatly expand their income. My calculations indicate that Embark Studios would see a rise of over 100% in their income!

Sex Appeal
Lets face it: male pattern baldness is hot. My calculations indicate that by adding male pattern baldness, Embark Studios would see a rise of over 100% in sexually active players!

It's So Cool
Male pattern baldness is so cool. My calculations indicate that I would be over 100% more happy if my heavy could have male pattern baldness!

SPREAD THE WORD!
#FinalsBaldNOW

[drowsy stump]

You people are crazy. Light one shots damn near everyone with sniper. More lights play now than before nerf so Idk man a lot of the devs play light still, honestly it just sounds like light user’s are missing their crutches. The thing is no matter what all of light needs to be nerfed it’s the only class dedicated to nothing but damage and it shows a single sniper can ruin power push. A single light can change the tides in cash out. Yea low health bar but if you are dying it’s cause your bad lights can shred and move they can shred far off. So when you say “ Go pLaY dIaMoNd oR PlAt” it shows your rank. Guy above is making no sense. Millennial brain rot. The guy talking about rpg lol this is a standing still light. So really sounds like your skilled. @clear hemlock this was my original message so scroll back far enough and get the facts straight. Bro said I was full of maggots cause guys talking about a game having sex appeal the fuck you mean. Has nothing to do with him so he then inserts himself telling me I’m full of maggots.

[warm frost]

Anyone know how to switch the HP UI back to last patch? It was too tiny and make no sense

[terse lark]

youre on crack bro. you must be playing in cardboard 3 lobbies

[gray lynx]

Think being able to remove the points when u get kills/assists/cashouts could be nice, its a bit cluttered imo

[dire lance]

why does the xp5 have perfect accuracy at range? it's an SMG

[astral seal]

it has so much damage dropoff lol wdym

[lone root]

Hi guys, what is the transporter that i need to make destruction points .

[ebon tendon]

I vote for more Red Cosmetics- anybody who disagrees smells like old cheese

[pearl thistle]

Delete healing beam

[rugged temple]

Heavy:
Rpg: Lower burst damage and raise structural damage, make it useful as an environmental destruction tool instead of a massive aoe burst.
Dome shield: Lower deploy time? Maybe make it deploy slower so you have to use it more strategically.
Barricade: Lower barricade Hp.
C4: Raise damage a bit, maybe lower cd. Nothing too drastic but it's pretty bad right now.
Motion sensor: Give it a bigger range and lower cd? I don't think I've seen a single heavy use this.
Ks23: Maybe make be able to 2 shot walls so it has a better niche, since right now it's not great.
Charge and Slam: Decrease aoe slam range. The aoe range is pretty absurd most of the time.
Mesh shield: Either lower total HP or make it deploy slower. Either way this thing has been always super good.

Medium:
Defib: No i-frames, longer cd. Most busted gadget since always.
Aps: Bigger range, but a limit on projectiles destroyed?
Glitch trap: Maybe make it have a temporary recon effect (~1s) and lower CD. Return to 10s
Data Reshaper: Either longer range and shorter CD or rework it so it can do it's job better. It's cool but not very good.
Heal beam: Give it a toggle cost and lower the heal rate when healing a target that's already being healed (2 heal beams one 1 player will heal at a slower rate than right now).
Dematerializer: Lower CD, maybe more consistent on the area it removes? Weakest specialization for medium overall but it's definitely the coolest.
Revolver: Longer range and maybe a slightly faster fire rate?
Riot shield: Make it be able to block melee attacks (sword, hammer...) Not sure how to make it better with a direct buff, maybe increase the size by a bit?
Light:
Stun: Make it still give the glitch effect, but let people ads, crouch etc...please make it not instantly remove all momentum.
Thermal vision: Make it be able to... see fire? It's literally thermal vision. Also being able to distinguish between teams would be nice.
Tracking dart: Increase damage (10?) and lower holster time.
1/2

[swift gust]

Day 3 (even though I have been saying since Day 1 of this game) of requesting the Devs to bring back the Open Beta's Optimization. A good optimization can really boost the player numbers. PUBG recieved a significant boost in player numbers after they optimized their game. I request the Embark team to understand the significance of good optimization instead of forcing the players to spend 1500$ for a pc to play this game at a bare 120 fps

[echo venture]

Let us reconnect to ranked matches and not get banned instantly. Give us a chance to reconnect and not immediately ban us!

[thick sorrel]

Is it just me or is Stellar Blade going nuts on Youtube? This game discriminates female bodytypes. Please fix!

[rough herald]

**APS: Proactivity and fck your projectile problem ** (Day 23 of asking)

Notes:
. to start off, i love the idea of the aps, the ability of being able to defend an area locking down a room is fun
. but its just unfair in some situation all because the "fck your projectile" part of APS.
for a weapon like the GL that shoot projectile you basically lose the fight automatically
. and for powershift its basically mandatory to win (that gamemode need a rework tbh)
. also seens we're talking about powershift, its basically impossible to destroy the aps not only because the wall but also the fact that it can be replace instantly due to no cooldown on destroy
. its also a one and done. meaning once you place it down it just stay there forever

Suggestion: what i want to see
. (fck your projectile) either make it so it take damage with each projectile destroy. Or it can only destroy 3 projectile then broke
. and also give it a 3 second activation time like the turret have

Suggestion: what i would like to see but ok without
. (One and Done) make it lose hp overtime
. cool down on destroy

(embark pls fix )

[opaque sentinel]

I'm not sure what Stellar Blade has to do with my desperate pleas for better representation of male pattern baldness in Embark's THE FINALS, but I bet that all debate and controversy around Stellar Blade would be quelled in an instant if all characters in Stellar Blade had male pattern baldness. Wouldn't you agree? Case closed. Similarly, male pattern baldness would also drastically improve all issues currently present in THE FINALS. #FinalsBaldNOW

[grim gust]

you should add more skirts please :3c

[mint surge]

THIS

[regal salmon]

Can we get a rework of the emote/communication system? Hardly anyone uses it because its so clunky. Especially on controller.

There's 4(!) different wheels. Two preset, and of the two customisable ones, only one can actually be bound.

This is really poor.

You should reduce the wheels to two and let both be fully customised and bound, and/or map emotes directly to buttons.

I generally only want 2-3 in use anyway. If I could put a couple of sounds and an animation on my d-pad to trigger directly, i'd use them much more.

Which would also translate to more cosmetic sales, because they wouldn't effectively be dead items like they are now.

[mystic storm]

Shit ranked match system

Getting queued with silver 3 Light with sniper who cant aim (as a plat 3)

[dim sun]

WE WANT OUR DAGGER BACK
THE PATCH IS WACK
WE WANT OUR DAGGER BACK
THE PATCH IS WACK

[woven pecan]

Ran into a cheater 22 kills Lewis gun. Headshotting from across the map. I think once I hit Diamond and platinum this game I'm going to uninstall

[clear hemlock]

You kinda kinda insulted the guy above your previous message for no reason other than you being mad, so no reason to whine about being insulted. Hilarious that you still complain about light when lewis has the highest ttk in the game on the highest health class.
What fact was wrong? Said the guy had brain rot for making a joke. Also whined about light?

[rugged temple]

Glitch nade: Maybe 7.5s duration? I think the 10s duration glitch was better than the one right now and light really needs something.
Grapple: Lower the cd depending on how long the grapple is activated. (Full length = full cd, short grapple = short cd)
Invis: Make it slightly harder to see, but easier to hear. It's too easy to see right now, so make it actually "invisible" but give other options to notice it (volume)
Dagger : PLEASE REVERT DAGGER
Throwing knives : Faster projectile speed, faster fire rate.
93r : Higher damage, make the burst faster but overall fire rate the same (promotes a peeking playstyle to burst dmg -> get cover)
V9s: Slightly better range?
SH1900: Bitchass weapon im glad it sucks.

Make light start regen a bit faster (~20% faster) (regen rate doesn't matter light barely has any hp)

Universal:
Smoke grenade: Make it thicker / bigger area.
Flashbang: Lower cd / extend range?
Make it kinda useful as a recon tool but also im combat (not too short cd though)

Make the weapon crosshair actually centered -> you can do this with a 3rd party crosshair (not advised) but it should already be in the game.

Make melee hitreg more consistent (this seems harder to implement and hopefully won't screw up weapons like dagger)
^
The backstab check should check if the dagger hits the enemy in the back when the damage is being dealt, not before.

More communication pings / text chat (please)
Ex: "Good Game" on the expression wheel. "Thanks" and "Hype" can come across as toxic very easily.

Add more silly cosmetics! Everyone loves silly cosmetics.

Finally, REVERT DAGGER PLEASE!
Also, please add your take on things and critique any of the suggested changes, they're mainly loose suugestions of how I think they should be changed and any extra input is better. The more feedback the better.

[quartz cedar]

What a noob.
Good luck in your bronze / silver lobbies against lights, sounds like you'll need it.
Meanwhile the rest of us are enjoying them as free kills, let us know if you ever catch up to reality.
Not gonna sink to your level of using insults due to lack of arguements. See ya (If I ever smurf in bronze)

[timber ore]

A whole new match with 1 person team (only me) and still got - 3 line?????

[drowsy stump]

None of you all are diamond or plat sorry. But you talk like bronze. Like ranked means anything anyway but sure since it’s the go to. Look at the discord and see where plats get teamed with silvers. So rank means nothing. With all this aside they have the damage you just facing really bad ones g. 😦 it’s funny cause the devs still play lights so when this statement is said I just think how dumb either they are or the devs are. Hmm guess we will never know.

[broken lake]

by "one-shots damn near everyone" with the sniper, you of course mean that it one-shots just light class.

Y'know.

cause it only 1-shots light class.

also if you're playing powershift competently, a sniper light will not ruin the game. Just have like 3 people on platform and 2 people move around and deal with lingering threats like light snipers.

[clear crystal]

cant find it in my inventory?

[violet elbow]

stop listening to dogpiss casuals

thats all, thank you. :)

[opaque sentinel]

Okay, but hear me out... dogpiss casual here: what if they added a free-to-use male pattern baldness hair option?

[rugged temple]

Anyone who makes even the slightest comment about "being a high rank" or something like "you're probably bronze" ought to be executed instantly

[edgy iris]

This is probably an absolute headache to add, buuuut... playtest updates and temporary changes in real time to see peoples reviews.

[scenic forge]

After the last update, the game often crashes and the Unreal Engine pops up with an error message（Commonly seen during game loading process or intense combat scenes） The message is:
Unhandled Exception: EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION writing address 0x0000000000000040

MISSING_ANGELSCRIPT_CALLSTACK

ntdll
Discovery
Discovery

[rough herald]

this happen to vauth to

[quick coyote]

After the patch Cheater was reduced in Asia server, but it seems they found another loop hole. in Asia server cheaters are back again in full force

[daring fossil]

fix emote canceling with sword, thanks

@dusk anvil every contract like this for months has been broken, I don't know why they keep putting them in rotation without fixing them

@clear crystal @midnight axle 14 games, not 10 as displayed

[dusk anvil]

Are anyone else's deal damage to arena with arena carriable contracts bugged?

[midnight axle]

Agree with you

[thick sorrel]

Just some Buff-Feedbacks because nerfing feels like the Haha-Kid from Simpsons.

• two charges of grapple with slight increased cooldown. Or 1 charge but less cooldown compared to now.
• glitch duration 7,5s instead of 5s
• stun gun should at least neutralize specialization or gadgets
• cloak activationcost of 25% instead of 33%.
• Defib players can cancel the revive
• Heavy slight increased movement speed.

[ornate ember]

Can we get console only crossplay please? There's no reason I wouldn't want to play with PS5 as an Xbox user... but many reasons to not want to play with PC players

[dusk anvil]

thank you!

[plucky perch]

I experienced the same. They even went further and banned my account. No idea why

[river hill]

I agree, it's 2024, c'mon now

[merry creek]

💯💯💯💯💯💯

@opal swallow on EU server, everytime we turn crossplay off we can't find matches... 30min+ wait times without finding matches

[opal swallow]

Just turn crossplay off, my man, isnt that hard lol

[mint depot]

ok might get hated on but am i right when i say they should gun attachments so they can get some cod players

[last kite]

I completed all contracts for the event, yet I did not get the Gesture for playing 10 Terminal Attack matches, nor did I get the CNS Hoodie. Also, my username in the game is still PRIMECATWALK and not my username on steam. My game is glitched. Please fix this dev team.

[lunar iron]

Just went into ranked solo and got a team of all Golds, and was stacked up against 3 other teams that were all Platinums. Then one of my teammates leaves the game on start. Needless to say this lowered my rank due to loss. I dont get why in these situations it didnt mix up the teams a little bit more then just 3 golds vs 3 other teams of full platinums

[cyan nova]

visual bug I'm pretty sure, play 14

[real moon]

FIX DAGGER AND GIVE US A BOW AND ARROW

[pearl thistle]

Delete healing beam and nerf heavy somehow boring as fak

[teal thistle]

not entirely sure how but at some point the cash box got forced under the map and since we had already got one of them it was a guaranteed win

[broken shore]

I love to lose games because matchmaking decided to not give me teammates in a team based game. There is not even an indicator if players are joining or not 😍

[ornate ember]

I'm in europe on xbox. When I turn off crossplay the wait times are super long cause most people here have ps5's. I recognize this is a me problem lol. But would be nice to get into matches without having to deal with PC

@quick coyote plenty of people play it here, just most of them are on ps5, so it would be nice to queue with them.

[quick coyote]

Thats cuz no one plays this game, what can the devs do about that?

[hasty pelican]

Console cross play as it was before was a big help

[wraith ether]

i keeps running in bugs where I just can't press my left mouse, this is sooo annoying in fights

[smoky gust]

you know how you have 2 mines, and if you place a 3rd the 1st one gets deleted?
what if we did something like that to c4?

give it 2 charges but only allow the player to have 1 active at a time

you don't have the range of the rpg, but you get to blow up more stuff in quick succession if need be

[glass pendant]

I would like devs to add little visual indicator under health bar that show how much time is left before regeneration kicks in. It would be neat little QoL change.

[spare cape]

Please devs for season three add haptic adaptive trigger support for ps5 would be huge for console I usually jus play jus for that

[real scroll]

I just played plats and diamonds and got ranked down as a gold 3.... why

[scenic forge]

This is basically the same as battlefield

[dusty river]

you need to play 14 matches of the new mode to unlock that.

[river hill]

Rework rank system

[pseudo breach]

Is the piss poor hit registration ever going to be fixed? Or the not being able to run bug? Or not being able to use gadgets and healing beam? This game is falling apart real quick

[rough herald]

text chat pls, how much longer will it take you?

[wicked tiger]

Another day another win taken from nmy stats due to a leaving because of a hacker

[formal sphinx]

Terminal of other team all abandon then need to go through 4 rounds of nothing.

[real scroll]

I'm so tired of doing 1000 damage to get one kill because everyone abuses the heal gun

[vestal coral]

but do you want to nerf or remove these turrets? And instead of 2 mines, bring them to 1? or should we still entertain the noobs? shall we get rid of all this noob friendly shit? and nerf the heavy who has now become immortal with a scary DPS, a heavy cannot have all this attack power.

[remote burrow]

Just played a game against a cheater who did every shot as crit, even through any shields, also obvious map\wall hack, 42 - 0 ahahahahahah

[willow locust]

Suggestion:

KS-23 and other "fragment reload" weapons should be able to have their reload paused by aiming down sights. In its current state, mid reload, if you wish to shoot someone you're forced to either:
A: hip fire.
B: swap to/from the weapon.

This change would improve the fluidity of using these weapons, and is likely to slightly increase pick-rate without implicitly improving the weapon itself.

[toxic pawn]

Just saying:
Gas mine skin, woopie cushion, and when it detonates it has to make a farting sound

[hollow badger]

hell yeah

[versed bridge]

Literally about to say the same thing, just had a game where a teammate threw by hiding when there was one person stealing

[untold meadow]

Sword skin ideas... Pool noodle, hockey stick, a wrench... I mean why not .. y'all did a plain o stick lol

[tawdry sky]

It's impossible to play without crossplay on my console because the game has a small online. Why hasn't mnk allowed this yet? It's so weird and unbalanced towards console players

[exotic bear]

Been playing for a while now, is there a Clan feature? Or perhaps plans for that feature to be included in the future?

[pliant notch]

Desert eagle gun or a desert eagle skin for the revolver

[violet elbow]

give us ranked 3v3 over the 4 Team system, 3v3 would be much more competitive and Light would have much more of a place in the Meta

[hasty pelican]

Rank qc would be a bit nicer yeah

[rough herald]

skin is boring i want gun

[river plover]

🙏 please fix the dagger tomorrow just revert it its not hard PLEASE 🙏

[clear quarry]

what happened to the dagger?

[sudden tangle]

Light in casual is in a pretty good spot, maybe even slightly overtuned weapons wise (xp-51).

Light in ranked is in a slightly underpowered spot.

My suggestion is make two slightly different versions of light.

Keep casual light as it is, maybe some slight weapon nerfs.

Buff ranked light with more hp. Nothing else is needed. Stun and cloak nerfs were warranted. Give light 50hp. If it's overtuned, lower it. Healthy range should be around 25-50, im leaning towards 200hp.

Make 100hp of light hp shield hp that regens faster than regular hp. Only in ranked!

[clever gyro]

Terminal Attack

With 1 point to attack and defend and letting the Defenders spawn at the point would be way more interesting.

The attackers have the benefit of knowing where they are. And the defenders don't have to guess what to defend.

Now you're attacking and defending as much and it doesn't really matter on which team your on since the attackers just go to the point that isn't guarded and then have to defend that and the defenders have to attack that.

[slow abyss]

The point of the defibrillator nerf was to stop people using it in the middle of a fight and instantly gaining a player back, but people still do this as even if it takes a while to spawn. I would make it so you can damage spawning players so that they can't defib mid fight. This would mean you have to use cover and fall back, but doesn't require 5 seconds of safety to respawn normally. Also heal beam is to strong. You shouldn't be able to have 2 beams on one person and it should heal at an accelerating pace, with damage to the player reseting the speed. This would make it less viable mid fight and makes it a tool to recover from fights quicker, not to be used in fights. Also heavy out dps medium with higher damage potential and more health. Either nerf heavy Lewis, m60 and sa12, or buff akm, model(idk the shotgun), fcar and famas damage. Light as a whole is to weak, but the stun gun nerfs were needed. A class shouldn't be strong cuz a free kill on cooldown. I think it should have a buff to damage, and the v9s should be automatic. The v9s is just annoying to use and spam clicking while tracking feels unnatural. I also think light should regen faster as any damage puts you out of the fight until full hp. Also cloak should be full invis unless within a certain distance (5-15m), but the time to cloak should take longer (1-2s) and there should be a time to decloak (1-2s). You also wouldn't be able to use items in cloak. Like Spy. This would make cloak good for positioning, but less effective as a method as a way to run from fight (time to cloak) or start fight from bad position (time to exit cloak + no shooting in cloak). Also I think you should spawn closer to cashouts as it feels like a walking simulator. While light is overpicked in casual, I don't think it is cuz it to good in casual, rather that the other classes aren't as fun. Try to add fun to the other classes (like rocket jumping for heavy) to decrease pickrate in casual, while buffing overall for competitive

[vestal coral]

can you make pressing the triangle cancel the weapon reload animation please?

[hearty sonnet]

Please allow keyboard and mouse support on ps5

[lapis oriole]

Trench coat trench coat trench coat trench coat

[gray nexus]

~~Can someone explain what is this new currency in The FInals? How do we obtain more of it? Can we buy it? Can we grind it?

image
#bug-discussion message

my feedback would be for Embark to become better at informing players of how the game works, if you add new currency, please at least make a post about it or something~~

@sacred siren I restarted the game and it disappeared, thank you for the clarification.

[lavish shard]

Please stop nerfing everything just buff the light for ranked 👍👍quick play is pretty balanced

[sacred siren]

Restart the game or complete a match. It just does that sometimes.

[rough herald]

medium shotgun just don't let me shoot when reloading, that shit is to be colted

[violet elbow]

fix the model 1887 reload, make it a bit Harder to 2 shots Lights with it
versatility > lethality

[dreamy magnet]

So when are we getting text chat lmao

[charred prism]

Guys we really need to do something about teammates leaving the game;what can a solo player do in this game get wiped out everytime and playing just to derank...

[regal sand]

Game keeps crashing after every major update

[pure hinge]

My Suggestion
Customizable Team colours in game
Too many times colours are too similar of enemy teams. Using the colour blind mode somewhat fixes this however it does still happen.
What I would want instead is being able to select what colour a team is and make it fixed and carry from game to game like:
Your Team: Blue
Enemy team A: Red
Enemy team B: Gold
Enemy team C: Pink
And let us change these colours as we see fit to suit our preferences.

[hardy crown]

I completed 12 terminal attack match but sill i cant get GESTURE reward???

[rugged elm]

Play 14 games

[flint panther]

LIGHT NEED LESS TIME TO HEAL FOR MED AND HEAVY some damage is not a big problem but 2hit from fcar is a lot for a light. just some hit i have to wait 10 sec to heal it is too much and make light less fun

[thorn kelp]

This is the best iteration of the dagger buff yet 😂

[slow abyss]

My solution to last minute steals: firstly, leaking cashouts are flawed as they give to much advantage to the team that starts the cashout, and forces you to rush to steal. My solution is that each team has their own timer + 30s neutral timer at start of cashout. Neutral timer is to allow others to travel to cashout and start fighting. Each team would have there own 1:30 timer. This means that all money still goes to one team, and there isn't a rush to steal asap and more time to be strategic, but is stops last second cashouts as if they steal last second, you have 1m 30s to steal back. This still punishes teams for loosing the cashout, but doesn't instantly unfairly reward those who steal last second and don't have to hold it at all. After 30s Neutral timer, whoever started cashout owns it, and it can still be stolen in Neutral timer to make it so your teams timer start first. Also, you need to spawn closer to the cashout as walking 200m takes forever. Additionally, buff goo with 1.5-3x health as goo gun and grenades feel to weak as they can be destroyed too fast. Also let goo check for multiple contact points, as currently goo can only have one contact point which makes goo structures significantly weaker and allows you to destroy a goo grenade wall by destroying one goo. Also, famas has less dps and damage potential than akm so it has no place. Either make it have higher dps or more damage potential. Also medium revolver has low dps and damage potential, it has no place. Give it high hipfire accuracy and a slight dmg buff (still weaker than akm) which would give it a place as a longer range alternative to shotgun (hipfire accuracy would allow for more movement like the shotgun, but it would have less dmg and option for more range when ADS). Heavy slugger also needs a dps buff.

[stray valley]

what the heellll

[lavish shard]

P=L buff light just for ranked everybody plays light in quick play

[worn sigil]

Definitely no, who would ever want MnK on console NANNIIII?!

@slow abyss there needs to be no solution to last second steals. If you didn't defend it, tough luck move on to the next one. The only thing they need to change is the spawn as even though you can have a teammate still alive, using a counter puts you on the other side of the map, with no way to defend the remaining time.
The whole point is being strategic as to which cashout to push depending on the time left, and how to defend if you have a few seconds to go.
Last second steals are amazing and shouldn't be changed.

[sinful gazelle]

Massively agreed
👍

[vestal coral]

heavy nerf please

[slow abyss]

Firstly, MnK is objectively an advantage, and it makes sense to not gatekeep it from consoles. You can flick faster, have 3 points of motion vs a thumb and have more buttons in a better layout that is less restrictive on what 2 things can be done at once. If controller was just as good as MnK then aim assist wouldnt exist and esports players would use them. 2nd, yes it is your fault for loosing the cashout and you should be punished for it, but stealing last minute and getting the money isn't fair. If you defend and teamwipe other teams and dominate for 1:50, but then mess up once and someone last minute steals, how can you say the person who steals deserves the money more than the team that defended it and dominated in a 3v3v3/ 3v3v3v3 for 1:50. My suggestion means that last minute steals would still exist, and would still be clutch and feel great, but now you need to defend it for 1:30 to keep it like the other team. There are some cheese ways to steal like demit which don't take skill. When considering balance, it isn't just about if you played bad, but also if the others played better and if they deserve it. Basically, yes you deserve to loose it but stealing doesn't mean you deserve to win it, and you should have to do what the first team did. If you want to debate further, dm cuz 30m slowmode is pain. Also the pain of loosing a cashout to a last minute steal outweighs getting one. Edit: I can see you typing, just dm cuz 30m slow mode. If you want you can summarize the debate after. But for now just dm.

[rugged burrow]

Hello, i wanna know is it only me having responsive issue in current update ? with the same FPS like before, my gameplay feels like a bit slower on responsive like moving mouse, shooting, etc. Im using AMD GPU RX 6600 with driver version 24.1.1

[worn sigil]

Yeah I understand that frustration and maybe agree to a certain extent, but for the most part, if you keep adding minutes on, the whole lobby will want a piece of the cashout and then the game will be stuck on 10k cashout forever. Never seeing a 15k or 22k cashout. How would you fix that problem?

Deserving it is a case by case basis.
If I play it perfectly stealthy as the original defending team is fighting and I goo/smoke steal last second, of course I deserve it IMO.
Deserving it as I dodge all the H & M as light and not being beamed by a turret in the corner etc.. I mean.

Yes things like demat require less skill but you can easily defend against it by things like punching over the cashout so they have to waste 2 demat charges stealing it leaving a roof slot open as the third charge closes one of them.

Yes getting 3rd partied last second triple healing mediums or HHM is annoying but I know I can still win by cashing out the 22k.

👍

[lavish shard]

Buff light hp just for ranked
Nerf lewis 25 to 23
Rework rpg 2 ammo 80 damage
Nerf little heal
You can shoot the hologramme for stop the reanimation

[wicked tiger]

Another loss taken from my stats for leaving due to a hacker

[vestal coral]

How can you have fun in a game full of flaws? Terrible servers, non-existent hit recording, lag, then cheaters, sbmm, there is no such thing as a good thing about this game.

[signal basin]

OK for the light but not for ranked only. Good point for rpg.
Last one is not a good idea or the revive as to be faster

[crystal storm]

Heavy's efterbliven charge får mig att want to slita av snorren, it has no reason to be doing så much damage

[devout aspen]

ok embark fr like if you dont like balancing the classes okay, but please fix getting derank if a teammate quits (or atleast lower the derank because otherwise its just stupid)

[slow abyss]

1, if 4 teams 4x1.5 + 0.5 6.5m theoretical max, but usually 2 teams at each cashout so 3.5m max, which isn't that long. Also cashouts aren't stolen that often. To clarify, if it gets stolen your timer is paused, not reset.

2nd, I disagree. I think you deserve the steal and defence advantage, but not the entire cashout cuz you goo and smoke. Avoiding fights isn't hard, especially as light with mobility or invis, and destruction exist, so you can hide a floor below.

3rd, you don't know how the floor is segmented without demat and is a bit of luck. Admittedly, I don't see others do it often and it isn't very consistent.

4th, what if it was the 22k. Also even if it doesn't make you loose it puts you at a disadvantage and a team at an undeserved advantage. Also quick cash which I play cuz no one plays ranked in Australia servers for some reason (suggestion, team deathmatch mode you can play in que for ranked, more will play ranked if can play game while queuing, disable for regions with low que times)

Also I've been in situations where I'm able to steal, the team that owns is still alive and near, but they can't kill cuz trapped or stalled by team (there is no counter to goo gun stalling)(once I trapped the defenders in a moving elevator with anti-gravity making cashout block hatch, stole, and they didn't have time to steal back. They were right next to the cashout the entire time but lost)

This can go on forever, and I recommend using dms. I don't think I need to continue to add walls of txt to the chat.

[worn sigil]

@slow abyss no you're good, your clarification solved most of the parts I was getting confused about. No need for DM's.

• Timer getting paused no reset would be a game changer yep that could work agreed.
• think we're gonna have to agree to disagree on the whole deserving thing. Keep in mind I'm a grapple main who doesn't use stun invis and all that stuff. Goo Smoke Glitch/Frag is for me.
• yeah demat is a bit of luck, and annoying/cool depending on which side of the steal you're on

But yeah thanks for clarification, I agree with most parts now

[pseudo breach]

Please allow actual blocking of players so I never have to get trash as teammates again

[cinder ridge]

ive come to the realization im gonna leave every game that has shitty mediums with grenade launchers. they are the roaches of the finals and i wont submit myself to the mental torture that comes with playing with those skill-less shitters. thank you for your time

[fossil hawk]

Make the emote wheels bigger so I can use more than 4

[finite briar]

what about those that play grenade launchers to counter a bunch of lights.
I use it when I have a bunch of lights in quick cash or in power shift when there is a sniper.
I think those moments are when playing grenade launcher is valid

[supple abyss]

Give us the option to opt out of "In Progress" matches, and introduce play cooldown penalties for leaving a game mid match (In casual modes).

[lavish shard]

P = L in quick play everybody plays light dont need a buff but in ranked light need good buff

[sharp jasper]

lights should have a special, other then mobility like dash, grapple and cloak.

some thing like a bounce grenade that pushes people, could be used aggressively to bounce heavies away from barricades or out of domes, or defensively to protect cash outs, or for mobility to bounce themselves.

[distant arch]

I mean, technically you are still getting the 96 tiers you originally and knowingly bought the pass to have in the first place, the rest is extra for the people who are willing to grind more XP and achieve it, its even labeled "bonus page" in game.

[cinder ridge]

because im not having fun in quickplay bc of skill - less players yes thanks. also embark, please fix the floaty movement. you can walk over holes in the ground and float over them without even mantling. this makes cool demat plays hard bc when you try to drop someone they just walk over the hole and blast you. also take out the fog holy

[rugged temple]

Grenade launcher isnt exactly a strong weapon especially compared to the rifles and shotguns medium has. If you really hate them that much just run aps.

[dry wraith]

vanish bomb needs a longer cooldown, currently it's shorter than invisibility cloak

[drifting gorge]

How are you gonna remove dagger akiba step but not sword emote tech 💀

[plush grotto]

make glitch grenades destroy gadgets and turrets

[lime canopy]

change lootpool in ranked compared to normal modes, like you can ban certain items or abilities. Also nerf the 3 stack medium meta or just nerf the devibrilators

[wicked tiger]

The self-damage needs to be increased massively. You can get killed point blank and it does little to nothing to the user.

[shadow rune]

New game mode is nice, but pointless, after 1 round losing team leaves...

[cinder ridge]

whoever came up with the earning so much cash for however long you hold cashout is a genius. 2 games in a row now ive went 11-4 with 3 deposits and they were all 3 zerged in the last 15-30 seconds. Im losing rank for playing good and holding the cashout the longest just because my team cant compete against 2 other teams pushing at the last minute. Being the most kill dominant and objective dominant team at the same time just to lose with 5k cash is ridiculous. Teams shouldnt be ranked up just because they sit and wait in corners until the last second.

[gleaming lance]

The issue is that then it loses a lot of dopamine rush of last minute steals that the finals is so well known for....

[river plover]

Sounds like you gotta defend better
The one problem with a MMH heal heal mesh loadout it that it cant stop steals
Get yourself a charge and slam heavy to push stealers away

Dagger is extremely good at stopping steals, shame its broken rn
any light is good at stopping steals IMO

[thorn kelp]

This ^^^

[signal basin]

It's not because everyone play in normal that's mean they don't need a buff. Octane on Apex is the most picked Legends but one of the worst in the game. Light and Octane got 2 things in common. They're fun but fking weak and useless. You can't have 2 dff build between two game mode.

[mild pond]

@pearl kiln @ anybodyfromembark, can we please get an increase to max controller sensitivity already? tired of not being able to turn fast enough without needing to rely on the look boost settings which only apply at max input. Let us turn around as quick as people using a mouse can, it’s only fair and well overdue at this point

edit, can we also get an option to make the dash ability dependent on which direction you’re looking, rather than your left stick doing all the work?

[hollow breach]

Increase bank it size to 120k cash instead of 40k

[upper citrus]

Give 500 extra cash for each kill you get within 50m of a cashout you own

[plush grotto]

Fix the fucking spawns

[steel ridge]

Can we fix the FAMAS so there is at least one advantage to playing it over the other Medium weapons? even revolver or grenade launcher are better

[shell seal]

That's a good way to have boring match, no one push 'cause losing a push means buffing a lot the score of the opponents.
Wipeout are already a good way to punish, no need to have a second one

[dark badge]

idk if this is something that just I want but for a long time ive been thinking that the heavy should be given like a ww2 anti tank rifle, extremely slow reload and rechamber speed with low ammo count per mag but long range and extremely high damage. no scope just iron sights and probably a large accuracy penalty for firing while moving. basically just a better version of the slug shotgun except intended for long range.

@worn sigil mini gun would be cool but we already have two light machine guns feels kinda weird to just get more and more machine guns lol

[worn sigil]

@hollow breach agreed but maybe keep it at a nice rounded 100k, but yeah this should breathe life into bank it again!

@fierce peak that means forcing a particular style of play which is never good for a game!

@plush grotto yah especially when you have one teammate alive defending by themselves, you coin, and spawn on the other side of the map 🤣

@steel ridge burst weapons in almost every other game are one of the top AR weapons but I still love my AK 😎

@cheburashka.pdf#0000 if another heavy weapon is added, I'd prefer a minigun like my main Ramparts Ult Sheila from Apex 😈

@cinder ridge it's annoying yes but with the right gadgets you can defend against the lobby if they all push, it's mostly a positioning game anyway, don't always have to camp with the cashout, you can be up top, across an entirely different building watching out for pushes, destroying zips, etc..
3rd parties are bound to happen so just engage when they're tryna steal or back off a bit until they do.

Btw I love playing Light with Goo Smoke Frag/Glitch and the occasional healer medium

@lavish shard light already have a portal gadget like wraith to escape or push

[cinder ridge]

i agree lights are very good a that but no one plays light because theres 25 silver players in here complaining everyday that lights arent viable bc they need cloak to get kills. and to counter your point the heal heal mesh usually is a 3 stack meta. if youre solo you have to find other ways to defend because teambuilding sucks in this game. i use demat bc as a solo queue the best thing i can do is drop the cashout box and slay out to help my team. so regardless when you have 4 mediums and 2 charge heavies rushing the building for the cashout with 30 seconds left you just arent gonna defend. has nothing to do with defending better. its about being able to do nothing about the situation and losing rank because of a factor you cant control. thats my genuine point no hate or anything i see your side too. just as a game with shitty sbmm its hard to say team talent should be looked at over player talent.

[unkempt ginkgo]

https://tenor.com/view/imostergolfra-gif-25274972

[lavish shard]

Im ok for buff light in quick play but not the hp maybe new gadgets or passive idk new abilities for escape like wraith in apex

[delicate yoke]

More nama tama gear!! Most of the nama tama cosmetics were from the beta and I NEED more!!

[tawdry tree]

There should be a way to refuse revive by defib. It's anoying to get res in a middle of a team, waiting for you to spawn and insta kill while you M just ran away...

[thorn kelp]

First frog, then nama tama jumpsuit

[terse shadow]

There should be a matching set of pants for every upper body piece of clothing for the circuits.

Looking at you, Pro Circuit.

[wicked tiger]

Stop stealing my wins when I leave a game because of the problems in your game

[dry wraith]

a match history would be nice, with info about rank changes

[tranquil storm]

Specialization idea: Dropkick. When you press the specialization key you start charging and build up speed, then when you press jump you perform the dropkick. The longer you built up speed, the farther the person getting hit will go.

Give it to the light class perhaps, would be a fun thing to use.

General stuff I think should be tweaked/fixed:

Glitch grenades (multiple instances where they haven't worked when I throw them at matrix shields).

You should be able to hold the throwing knife right click at the cost of not being able to sprint.

RPG does too much damage, I always saw it as a way to open up structures from a distance, instead it is only being used as a mini nuke.

Give us the option to completely disable melee aim assist, I find that I'm fighting against it more then it is helping me.

Smoke grenades should be denser and cover a larger area, it's a little useless at the moment since people can see straight through it.

Sniper feels like an out of place weapon. People can sit cross-map and kill you since the weapon is hit-scan. At least turn the bullet into a projectile so that it's less annoying on modes like power shift.

Cloak is unfun to play with or against in my opinion. I would be cool with it being removed from the game if it meant giving the light class some buffs, perhaps a little more HP or a passive effect. Vanish bomb can stay though.

Consider giving the grappling hook a shorter cooldown or the ability to grab cashboxes & cans/barrels.

MP5 should do less damage, especially from medium range.

Yap session over

[gritty sequoia]

Thiiiis

[viscid crow]

Why is the light sniper marked as a melee weapon?

[signal glacier]

Information about FCAR does not appear to be updated in the menu, still shows a 20 bullet magazine by the way

[fluid anchor]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqRhdQWq3VQ&ab_channel=Gressil

[dull basin]

idk if it's been said, but can u make a toggle effect for the battlepass glitch wears?? i like how the pro circuit mask straps pass through the hood but i don't want the glitch effect 😄

[lime fable]

Please make casual actually casual y is there sbmm in a mode that isnt ranked, ranked it called ranked because its ranked ffs every single mode feels more more sweaty than ranked and personally im getting tired of it

[daring fossil]

there is no sbmm in casual

@queen cloud getting 22-0 when everyone else has under 5 kills just proves there's no SBMM what? SBMM means you are matched with/against people of your skill level. This doesn't happen, you get absolute potatoes and aim gods with no middle ground.

[stuck trench]

Buff Light.

175 HP.

Faster HP Regen.

Revert previous cloak energy use nerfs now that it's easier to see.

Let the stun gun cancel specializations and gadgets.

Give grapple a second charge.

Revert dagger nerfs.

And most important of all: ignore the community when it comes to balancing, even this message. If your game is not aimed at me, then it's not aimed at me, but I really wanted to like it, and I just don't anymore.

[quick coyote]

HI

[near lava]

Console shouldn’t be in pc lobbies unless they queue up with PC ppl. Makes no sense to have it any other way and embark really ridiculous for changing it.

[queen cloud]

yes there is. Created new account had 10kd after 3 games.

[solar cradle]

they did that because there's not enough players. bad sign

[quick coyote]

I agree with all of this except for cloak and stun gun.

[analog bear]

Ranked needs to be more accurate with actual player skill, we keep getting teammates who either dont contribute anything or just throw/leave the match midgame
Damn Terminal is more competitive right now, whats the point of Bronze to Gold when people play literally on the same level, theres no difference
Also Text chat so you can communicate with people who for some god forsaken reason play ranked with Voice Chat disabled

[rapid stream]

Must pick weapons are really fun!!!

[red nymph]

We need a duo’s mode

[analog saffron]

Mnk support on console?

[worn sigil]

Ahhh ok, I agree 💯 👍🏽

[upper citrus]

For some reason i just don’t think the support class should have the best weapon in the game

[hazy shore]

role q when?

[lime fable]

All the casual console players left when the aim assit got nerfed they didnt merge pc and console due to low player count, it was already like that

[odd atlas]

I feel like glitch grenade could be buffed so that if an APS "destroys" it, it detonates. Might make APS totally nonviable though

[hollow valve]

I can feel there is some kind of sbmm in game. For what @queen cloud says, he means when you are a new player but actually a smurf, the game doesn't know that so it gives him easier lobbies to learn so he can get many kills. (If there is no sbmm he would get 10kd through his career.) But as you progress and play the system learns your skill level then it will give you lobbies that suits your skill level. But tbh I think the sbmm in casual mode of this game is not very strict.
And as for kills if you play the objective you would have a relatively low KD. But if you engage and disengage smartly you can have a high KD while not winning. So it really is playstyle related.

@daring fossil but in your screenshot the damages dealt in each team combined are relatively the same. So you could still say it's team balanced. But guessing what really is the matchmaking system won't be accurate.

So I really want devs to tell us what kind of matchmaking system they are using and update us with changes.

[quick coyote]

I barely play few hours total during weekdays 2-3 ranked games a day and some hours on Saturday with the bois, and I've been Level 96 for 3 weeks+, Chill out you have more than enough time

[daring fossil]

they did though. Console players only played in PC lobbies if they partied with someone on PC before. They changed ita couple patches ago, now console players end up in PC lobbies just by having crossplay on. Lots of console players complained about it

@hollow valve if it does have SBMM, its not strict at all because I constantly play against all skill levels, I get brand new accounts on my teams vs aim gods all the time. Or just lobbies filled with nothing but potatoes, or just lobbies filled with aim gods, there's litterally no middle ground and in my experience after 700+ hours it seems completely random. If you look at the screenshot I posted, I had the most kills and the most objective points.

[quick coyote]

1. Up explosives charges for tank & light 1 to 2

2. A bug somes games when cash box out is in under the map after the fight

3. A text channel pls ( all mode & lobby )

4. Emotes & spray in lobby

5. News ranks & reward by rank color
   -platinium become maybe cyan , diamond purple

6. Ban sniper in ranked (because broke team play ) & grenades weapons with 9bullets (of tank ) because overcheat for counter steal ( Or so let us have a ban system before the match , 1min before 1match more for choose correctly the stuff with mates & adapt composition )

7. Increase anti cheat ( Good luck Embark ❤️ )

8. Make more profiles ( x3 for all buddy ) for varies compo & skins , or make random mod for skins btw :3

(if afks players in ranked & we loose , no progess lost , try a system for let players join the match & make bonus for him if we win , no prog lost if he loose

[fervent vortex]

Skill issue lmao, fcar is like the 5th most powerful gun

[queen cloud]

I have a bit over 5 now. But i was trying to get into easier lobbies by killing myself a lot 😄. It doesn't work, you can't get those easy lobbies back

[sharp jasper]

In my opinion, the FCAR should be a high hitting, low ammo, slow reload weapon. 20 rounds was perfect, damage was perfect. If they just made the reload time longer it would change the entire play style of the weapon, it would truly become a high risk/high reward weapon, thoughts?

[tropic egret]

big punishments for leaving matches need to happen asap in both quickplay and ranked

[slender hazel]

there definitely is sbmm in casuals. the high kd kills aren't good examples because those are just games of people sweating with meta setups in one in a few lucky lobbies.

[dry wraith]

nice hacks

[fiery orbit]

Goo on power shift is lagging people in its texture (maybe it was fixed, idk)

[dense stirrup]

I’m trying to send a screenshot of a bug that i found on the Ghoulish Allure charm but it isn’t letting me select the image?

[violet elbow]

"sbmm in casuals" "a few lucky lobbies"

[wise cliff]

Main idea: Getting your full build slowly through rounds of the tournament by using the money you win like in CSGO or LoL could help break out the monotony and stale meta compositions by simply not giving players access to them up until they've earned them. It would also give players an incentive to risk cashing out during the last minutes of the match instead of simply throwing the cashbox away so no one can cash out.

(Not my video)
https://youtu.be/MEeRJgOeqA4?si=PD0cM-9hqsAKisxH

[upper citrus]

Yeah because it got a deserved nerf?

[bleak nexus]

This game needs massive changes in moderation or something. I’m so fucking tired of getting harassed every single god damn game when I pick light. I play insanely well, outperform everyone, but the harassment never stops unless I que with a party. It’s unbelievable. Remove light from the game at this point, there is few other ways. The harassment begins the moment you load into the game.

[willow leaf]

What rank are you in?

[daring fossil]

just report them for abuse, and record and post videos in #video-player-reports.

Happens to me all the time too, but they shut up real fucking quick when I stop all the cash out steals and have all the objective score and clutch.

[broken lake]

that's exactly why I don't play ranked.

Embark should realize that if just picking a class in game can get you autoreported for "throwing" then they should probably stop nerfing everything that makes it even slightly viable

[mystic nebula]

I think it's past time to raise the career end past level 50. Another sponsor clothing push, perhaps?

[quartz narwhal]

I kinda gave up on playing the game lately for exactly this reason, the moderation is so garbage and the light class is dead, and we're still getting light nerfs

[glacial knot]

Less chinese names in the leaderboard, did the most chinese cheater get banned ? 😋 the finals is now on the right way. Good job to the devs

[slender hazel]

you have 4 times my matches and I have over 100 hours in the game. you might be playing day and night but most people aren't. very expected that you'd think there's no sbmm. on top of that I saw ur clips. u are the "sweats" we are talking about when we're tryna relax with a few games. stop humble bragging and gaslighting people that sbmm don't exist.

[fervent vortex]

Sure but light guns weren’t touched lol

[abstract harbor]

Me, barely hanging on to Plat2/3. Currently playing against the #1 in the world. Why? What is this matchmaking? Good lord.

[proper chasm]

2.6 Ranked has completely stunted any chance I had of getting to Diamond before the season was up. before I was getting very nearly 0.5 to 1 full rank a day and now I'm stuck in Plat 2

[tame bronze]

Yesterday, I was playing quick cash and at the end it just started lagging when I was near a fight.
Also, I did a clip to see if it was still there, but on the clip it was normal, also my internet, so I thougth it was a problem of my xbox, but if it happened to someone else I tjink they could fix it

[tall wave]

Lower turrets health

[spare cape]

Can y’all add haptic adaptive trigger support for ps5 and 120hz support for Xbox and PlayStation. Please y’all been killing it y’all have a big following on console and we jus need more love, this my favorite game and would be so dope to be able to feel all the guns and gadgets

[upper citrus]

what is bro talking about 😭

[stuck geyser]

yeah, they're really strong against lights and its not always easy to get out of their line of sight

[hollow valve]

(oh sorry I forget to @violet elbow )
Sbmm doesn't mean you get 1kd through your career... Take Apex Legends as example, some streamers even play ranked they still have 3 4 5kd. (And 2.25kd is not very high end.)
A general idea is the more strict the sbmm is, the more likely you will be matched with same skilled players thus a KD closer to 1. The less strict the sbmm is, the more likely you will be matched with other skill brackets, you would have more chance to "dominate" the lobbies and get more kills.
And if you want to make a match within like 1 min, the player numbers is a factor too. There might not be just enough players like your skill level currently in your region, but it has to balance the teams somehow. So they might put bad, middle, good players in one team. Then you could easily gun weaker enemies in other teams and still have a high KD.

But still I wish devs could inform us how the matchmaking system works. Then I would call that the most honest game ever. (Or just generally how the system works.) But it's ok if they don't since no multi player games do that, because the mm system could be interpreted as protecting certain players' interest.

[broken shore]

Please bring back casual tournament, it was the only gamemode worth playing

[swift shuttle]

something I've wanted for a while that I hope is in the works: can we get some sort of option for saving cosmetic presets? 6 loadout slots + reserves is plenty for gameplay purposes, but I'd love having a way to quickly save and load cosmetic presets, particularly as we get more and more cosmetics/cosmetic combinations

[timber igloo]

Please give an option to turn off aim assist on melee for Mouse and Keyboard

[daring fossil]

I mean, that's kind of the point. Not everyone deserves to get diamond. There's millions of CS players and only a few hundred global elites (well in CSGO anyways). I think they need to stop offering fomo skins in ranked though now that the ranks are actually skill based. Yeah sure, getting diamond skins actually shows your skill now, but still, I want the diamond skins but I can't be bothered playing ranked solo and I probably wouldn't make it to diamond now anyways (especially solo).

@bleak nexus I mean, if all you're doing is killing, and it's not actually helping your team, than I can see it. I get "good" lights on my team all the time, but if all they do is kill, they don't support the team, they don't revive, and they take fights while being the last alive (and then die). They could have 20kd and still be absolutely useless to the team. I prioritize helping my team, reviving, keeping everyone alive and stopping steals VS just killing everyone when I play light. Most lights just play for themselves, they will run right past a player statue just to fight a team and die, that type of shit is why people hate lights. I main light and I hate most lights, if I get a light on my team I play medium otherwise there's a good chance we lose. Not saying you do this, just saying that's why people hate lights. I get harrassed all the time too, and I consider myself one of the few people who actually play light properly.

[bleak nexus]

I am a plat 1 sniper only player. I could do 10000 dps and go 15-0 and they still will blame me. Ironically its not even unbalanced. I keep up as light super well, I dont need buffs. It just takes more than 2 braincells to play. Which most people don't have. They cant comprehend someone being good enough to use something that isnt central to the meta. @daring fossil no, im in their face fighting, moreso than anyone else. Its not about that. I can do everything medium does, but faster. But it just comes out as cope from others, I didnt solo que sniper nearly to diamond by being shit/not a team player.

[short solstice]

I rocketed to D4 and hit a wall. The game becomes increasingly competitive and the skill ceiling rises fast. Probably your current limit.

[violet wing]

This man speaks the truth

[high wing]

fix the broken fucking hitreg on the revolver

[worn sigil]

Same but I'm Gold 1, I just turn off chat and let my steals do the talking

[scarlet jetty]

Anybody want to play in private? I need 5 people.

[fair bolt]

feel you bro, but my problem are those lights that dont focus on the other lights with sniper on power shift, if we had text chat... we could type and tell these people what are the best option for the team

[acoustic storm]

QOL improvement: the MGL32 should explode on impact with an enemy. This is already really hard to achieve but would take away some of the frustrating nature when fighting up close.
One would still receive a lot of self damage.

[sturdy ginkgo]

APS

[pseudo breach]

I think you mean the whole game. I can't hit shit after about 5PM EU. It's amazing seeing the yellow crosshair while your opponent is 2m away, and somehow you still need to empty 2 or 3 mags in his face before he dies. It's fucking ridiculous. Between 2 and 4PM EU everything works fine. After 5PM EU the game's hit registration is a fucking joke. I guess the severs can't keep up with the MASSIVE player base.

[autumn island]

Riot Shield Stuffs Ive noticed while playing absolutely nothing but Riot Shield:
1: Pyro Grenades sticking to the shield. It makes my cry :< It covers the screen and will just continuously do damage until im dead. Theres no way to take it off or prevent it happening either. Ive also heard if you switch off of riot shield to a different gun or class, this bug will stick with you until the games end.
2: Traveling on the zipline will cause your legs to mesh through the front of the shield, basically rendering the shield useless.
3: Sliding while blocking will also cause legs to go through the shield.
4: Melee damage is almost never blocked but other melees. Swords will just melt you even if you're blocking and looking at the direction they are attacking from.

Now some QOL changes:
PLEASE make the shield like 10% bigger and let it cover my weak little feet 😩 Im just a sitting duck unless I literally surprise attack every single enemy i see. they just poke at my feet until im dead. There is no way i can do damage to an enemy if they can just exploit the shield and get free damage.

OH MY GOD CHARGE AND SLAM. It is just a one tap. I HAVE to get close to enemies to actually kill them, and heavy just spams charge and slam as soon as i even exist in the same room. Blocking does absolutely nothing.

WHY DOES FIRE GO THROUGH MY SHIELD?? Blocking does nothing. I feel like the shield should at least block or take reduced damage from fire. Again i have to get close to the enemy, and fire outdamages me, so I just cant do any damage. I sit around and hope that a turret or teammate will get them low enough for my to even attempt to kill them.

Thank you for listening to my ted talk.

[quaint forge]

Can you please revert the barricade nerf? You can’t do the head glitch anymore

[hollow badger]

thats the POINT!!!

[sonic forum]

The game IS constantly crashing on Xbox series X, each game, freeze and instant off

[proper chasm]

I understand why it was done but the combination a missing out on a load of things because I didn't suddenly get better over the course of a few weeks is incredibly irritating and the fact that I came to this game because my mate was like "oh the ranked isn't as serious as it is in CS and there's not as much grinding as in Sea Of Thieves" really got me here and I was actually having fun in a competitive game for once just casually ranking up getting closer towards Diamond and now I've been reset back to the place I was in when I did play CSGO of feeling the need to constantly grind to rank up and getting incredibly fucking irritated when my team mates do something stupid or one of the other teams in the game are a bit too good to just be in my rank is forcing me away from the game.. I'm not looking to be stressed when playing a game that's competitive or semi-competitive any more

[grizzled canopy]

Day 33 of asking Embark for medieval bundles

[daring fossil]

I've been asking for this for months (pretty much since launch), it got to the point where I just stopped using the revolver altogether and started maining the AK when I play medium. (revolver was the first weapon I max leveled after LH1). It's not worth it using the revolver when there's so much RNG involved, and with such a high skill weapon, there should be 0 RNG involved.

[red timber]

2.6 is making my game crash every. single. match.
Any fixes?

[jolly aspen]

Day #1 of asking for lobbies without aim assist
AA makes the game way sweatier than it should be and gives an unfair advantage to input remapper users

[proper sorrel]

i finished the event but didnt get the cns shirt

[dusk forge]

ranked and mm got even worse. i thought this is impossible, but Embark, you made it!!!

[queen cloud]

ngl. I think mnk is better, but aim snap is bs. I could clearly see the console users were better in 1vs1 than mnk players on low sbmm lobbies

[cinder ridge]

That’s a great tactic if you don’t move the entire game, but I can’t stick the aps to my head and run around with it

[violet elbow]

love how they have put the balance into a spot where people quite literally get harassed in ranked for picking one of the 3 classes, its so fucking pathetic, well done embark keep cooking! :D

[sturdy ginkgo]

You can however, put it down at your feet when you encounter that 1 specific player. Actually I'm pretty sure you can place it on a goo barrell and carry it with you 🤣🤣
I'm calling skill issue on this one

[marble herald]

day 4 of asking to add red dot sights to most guns (please)

[sullen garnet]

your game is amazing, most innovative and exciting fps we've had in a long time. Please bring it to the Esports stage one day.

[elder blade]

nerf grenades and LH1 pretty please

[pseudo breach]

🤣🤣🤣

[honest harness]

I had exactly the same but only when two specific player were nearby. Very very strange. I had that in ranked btw about 2 weeks ago. But as I couldn't proof it I just thought it's an issue on my side 😯

[autumn island]

Riot shield as a mace + medieval shield would go hard

[quaint forge]

🍞

[broken lake]

make the turret fire projectile bullets, that way running into one isn't just unavoidable tick damage when you're within a certain area?

[upper citrus]

what? the 1.5k you would get from wiping a team is far less than any cashout value lol. if you dont push you would lose, it would actually encourage pushing.

Not to mention the fact that the wipeout penalty is horribly designed. It actively discourages pushing at the end of the game and makes the first four vaults almost useless if 5 or 6 can be put in

[pliant lion]

Are there some sort of cheats that skip gadget cooldown? I just played a final where I could've sworn a single player used his defib to revive 2 of his teammates in the span of 10-15 seconds.

[hollow valve]

Oh right the most obvious way to tell there is a matchmaking system isn't the after match survey?🤣 If it's random matchmaking system then everything is random so why there would be a survey?

[terse lark]

Plat 3 rn

[oak gate]

I genuinely cant stand playing powershift anymore. Snipers are just so fucking irritating

[red echo]

why are mediums allowed to have grenade launchers? it doesnt make sense

[bleak coral]

agree and make snipers, ARs projectiles too

[queen cloud]

ye, i'm done with ranked. Enjoyed farming kids on quickplay even with sbmm and against 3 stacks 😄

I think most people that are good at fps games left the game because of terrible balance, only bad/casuals left

[short solstice]

Said the quiet part out loud

[swift laurel]

low grav has been in the game long enough id rather dead go boom instead

[violet elbow]

actually refreshing to read a take that isnt brainrot, the fact that you can get a 10 and a 15k and wipe once, another team wipes 10 times and then gets a 22k at the end and is allowed to proceed is just beyond bullshit and in no way competitive but embark for some reason insists on it (catering to dogshit casuals even in ranked its so painful), we genuinely need a new ranked system thats either not about the different valued cashouts at all or rewards playing the game for more than 6 seconds to get a steal later on

[pearl mica]

Make it so glitch grenade is ignored by APS. APS with unlimited charges right now is broken on defence objectives.

[untold flint]

Give APS a lil sprinkler on its head to block all fire based weapons, effectively removing the mechanic in general, also keep it so it never dies even when shot. Studies show placing 2-3APS on the same platform effectively creates a shield stronger than dome

[red echo]

they dont protect you from firearm tho kekw

[nimble depot]

Please do not get rid of terminal attack as a mode release it after the event is over

[slow void]

Meta is way to much heavy oriented ! #lightlivematter !

[obsidian solar]

BUFF THE RIOT SHIELD:
Here's some suggestions, I know all of these together would make the shield pretty strong but even 1 or 2 would be enough to improve it so much!:

• While blocking movement speed should be the same as walking (increasing block movement speed would help a lot in pushing and giving your teammates support)
• Increase swing speed (Honestly a lot issues would be solve with this, the weapon lacks a good ttk)
• Lunge distance (90% of the fight become a chase you can't win, the other classes have ways to block enemies, slow them down or catch up to them, even heavies have RPG to finish people off if they use sledge)
• Increase damage from 84 to 90
• Electrify the baton and give it a glitch effect, when you hit somebody they're glitched for 2,5 sec (This would give the shield so much utility and would help the team greatly, making it a viable options)
• Remove the fov zoom when you hold your shield up (it's very annoying that when you block the screen zooms in, either remove it or add the option to choose between affected or indipendent fov while aiming)

ALLOW MELEE WEAPONS TO KEEP SPRITING WHEN ATTACKING:

• This would help them to compete

IMPROVE MELEE TRACKING:

• Some weapons like the Dagger have an insane lock that is not needed, on the other hand the Riot Shield has a very weak lock, you can't even hit people in your face sometimes. Consider increasing the angle at which the lock works and reduce the lock strenght on the Dagger

FIX THE DAGGER BACKSTAB:

• Backstabs with the Dagger are the most incosistent thing I've ever seen, a lot times either nothing happens or it's not backstab even though you're right behind them and other times it is when you're literally in front of them
• Increase the backstab hitboxes because the latency of the servers causes this problems
• Make it so you can hold the backstab and it's not a forced animation, revert it like it was in the Open Beta

[fluid raptor]

just lost mmr and got a matchmaking suspension bc my game tried to connect me to the next ranked round for literally forever. 👍

[queen cloud]

grow some brain cells and stop spamming. Imagine wanting to make riot shield opressive 😄 most cancer shiit ever

[pale quest]

Jump pads are broken since 2.6
it fails to jump more than half of time when you place it Infront you. player just walks over instead getting launched in air

[violet elbow]

my reaction to season 3 if same ranked system and still no balancing

[candid cobalt]

Get good

[tulip dove]

they already announced rank changes for season 3
https://www.reachthefinals.com/patchnotes/ranked

[elder blade]

what's not balanced? (besides LH1 and grenades)

@daring siren no it's not. perhaps the most op gun in the game if the user is even slightly capable of aiming

@quartz narwhal true, light needs buffs. cloak and stungun both need to be reverted and some other minor tweaks to make light viable.

[daring siren]

LH1 is perfectly balanced

@elder blade Its on light class, it has to kill the other classes fast. You can't judge it as OP because you're looking at the headshot only TTKs and pretending thats somehow easy to pull off in a game. I hate to break it to you, you're NEVER going to get a bunch of shots like that in such quick succession unless you're running aimbot. The game's movement is too fast, frantic, and unpredictable for such a thing to occur easily.

And even assuming that you were correct in that it needs to be changed, its body shot TTK is perfectly reasonable, all that would need to be changed is the headshot multiplier.

The only way you're getting headshot by that thing consistently is if you're a bot when it comes to movement. That gun requires far more than slight aim to be effective, it has a lot of visual recoil and its ironsights are not good at all for ranged play, so it puts you closer than you would like in order to be effective. Which puts you in range of guns that can kill you very easily if you aren't playing in the medium range sweetspot this weapon likes to have like the XP does regarding weapons around it.

It does not need any substantial changes, the gun is fine.

[dim sun]

fix the dagger thats all im asking. i dont care if light stays the weakest class. i just wanna have fun on the dagger.

[quartz narwhal]

The light class, underpowered and nearly useless in team play.

[thick sorrel]

The Defense (Heavy) and Support (Medium) Character is very noticable. I'm missing the Offensive (Light) Part in Ranked to achieve the balance. Now that the annoying mechanic is gone, a small HP or Regeneration buff to light and he would be taken seriously.

[coral axle]

please update too engine 5.4 for performance increase

[spice crest]

Can I plzzz have a secondary I’m always clapped bc my character wants to reload mid fight, also veitnam fit would be gas like the helmet would say “born to compete” or sum food for thought.

[wise cliff]

Please add the ability to choose teams in custom games so we can have 1v1 matches

[quick coyote]

i saw on steam this game have less active player and i have a question
i thinkin about purchasin stuffs in game but im scarin cause may game servers will close cause of less players is there any risk of it? (Sorry for my grammar)

[zinc carbon]

Make the white fcar the first item in the battle pass. Askan i couldnt agree less

[queen cloud]

if it didn't have the glow i'd be a great skin. With glow it's trash and destracting

[quick coyote]

i agree, hip fire and rng from moving is also trash.

[elder blade]

Sure light class does need to kill other classes fast, and it does. But when you spam the LH1, iron sight recoil or not, the bullets have no bloom so it will always go to the centre of your screen (the gun is insane with an on-screen crosshair). The gun is super easy to just look at an enemy and spam left click til they drop (if you compensate slightly for it's super easy recoil pattern). If you're a solid enough aimer and spam an enemy, you're even bound to hit a headshot or two. The game really isn't too "fast and frantic" outside of lights with a dash. The LH1 destroys heavies and mediums.

The gun also has no damage fall off (or nearly none at all) so tap firing at range does insane poke damage. The gun is not comparable to the xp at all. xp has solid damage but nothing compared to an LH1 being spammed, close range or not. The burst potential of the LH1 outshines all other light guns. I personally don't know why it's not run more often by every light player seeing as how strong it is. Sure the gun is slightly harder to use than others, but the absolutely insane damage difference makes up for it.

There's a reason that the few high rank light players run either dash sword or dash LH1.

[drowsy stump]

If people on my team can’t play at my level I leave tired of getting paired with brain dead bots. Had a dude pick up a downed teammates little figurine, he just looked at it then turns to look at a enemy and does nothing to either just stands there. It’s honestly sad how many people play that are honestly dumber than a box of rocks. It’s because the game is free. Should have made it cost money at this point at least the kid army would not infest the lobbies with their ignorance. Side note snipers in power push is the dumbest crap ever needs to be nerfed had four lights with snipers just killing everyone. So yea gg I guess when they just sit across map spamming shots.

[peak lark]

Bring back akiba step please 🙏

[mystic robin]

WHY DOES MY GAME KEEP CRASHING? AND KNOW IM BANNED FOR AN HOUR

[pseudo breach]

I regularly have teammates just watching the enemy shoot me all kinds of fucked up while taking over a cashout. Earlier tonight I had 2 Mediums, both with healing beams just standing there, doing jack shit. Or some of them will throw a gas grenade followed by a pyro grenade. Like 2 months ago I had a player just riding the ziplines the whole match. Had another one throwing flower pots around, just randomly, not even at enemies. I had to ask if they added bots... Because there can't possibly be people that brain dead

[grand night]

I'd love if you could name your team, rather than the preset ones in every game. Could be fun

[pseudo latch]

Day 53 of me begging the devs to give heavy an M134 Minigun as a Specialization.

• 200 Round magazine, ammo is restored two bullets every second, 100 seconds for a full reload.
• 20 rounds per second, eleven damage a round, 220 DPS
• Falloff begins at 30 meters down to six damage a shot at 50, but wide spread means the weapon becomes less effective past 10 meters even against larger targets
• bullets do high damage to structures (should be breaking walls in 20-50 shots) allowing a mid-range option to output mass destruction (destroying entire walls on higher floors of buildings, ripping apart nesting sightlines)
• • significant damage to structures and players
• • gun can be pre-spooled with RMB over having an ADS (for obvious reasons, you try to aim down the sights of a water cooler)|
• • high suppressive force through sheer amount of bullets being fired
• • its a goddamn minigun
• - Heavy cannot jump or sprint while holding it, has to switch back to primary
• - lengthy equip-unequip time to balance such, no “pocket minigun” strats, choosing to use this is a commitment
• - gun has to spool up for a second before firing, spool up being LOUD

[fossil hawk]

Nah give light a mini gun so they can fly around
Just a little trolling

[dim snow]

This would be fun (and also reading this reminds me of the tf2 heavy with I would love to see a build for here)

[mossy marlin]

Optimize The Finals......

[manic compass]

Buff nukes so the achievement is easier to get, no other reason besides me wanting it

[willow leaf]

I honestly don’t understand why the devs won’t increase lights health and increase its regen speed. These would instantly make light more viable and improve the game, but they seem to refuse to do it. It’s so odd

[earnest gust]

the agressor bundle in the store is how the cosmetics should've been done in the first place, let people pick and choose which parts of the bundle to buy *seperately * instead of the whole bundle

[daring siren]

External crosshairs are cheating

Every other point you make is irrelevant. The LH1 is supposed to be light's giant feller. No gun kills as fast as it because it struggles against other lights and missing shots is utterly devastating to your ttk and will result in you dying even if you ambush someone and get first shot off.

No other gun has the burst damage the LH1 has because they're not precision weapons outside of the TD and sniper. (Which both have better burst than the LH1)

Your biggest threats are always mediums and heavies, so of course this gun will be used in comp but not anywhere else. Especially since it's not easy to use and it's devastating to miss.

[sonic forum]

Full of bug, constantly crashing, unplayable on Xbox series X

[thick sorrel]

Played Terminal Attack 5-6 times as Light and had to sweat to compete. 2 rounds as Heavy and oh man, it's too easy. That RPG before the engagement is brutal. Can't believe they took the Stun Gun but keep the RPG, gg.

@gritty umbra doing nearly insta kills is so much better than stunning. Can't expect a heavy to understand. Light's Stun was like Heavy's RPG. Would you swap your RPG with Stun Gun? I would ...

[gritty umbra]

id rather big explosion than a gadget that takes 0 commitment or skill to use, in top of it literally taking your ability to play the game away

[hazy rapids]

They want people to stay together. Giving light ANY kind of survivability will result in people not supporting the team.

[mint lintel]

Half rpg damage and add 2 charges boom now it’s the hottest wall destroyer

[iron flint]

Refund ranked fame for matches lost to cheaters. The mode is almost impossible to play fairly on asian servers it's actually a gamble whether you're going to have a cheater aimbot you from 200m with a lewis gun each game... At least then we wont lose motivation to play the game if we know we are going to get a cheater banned and also get our points back. I've dropped from #380 to #1000 purely losing to cheaters. This is not fun at all. I personally know over 20 people who have quit due to this and i'm not exaggerating. I can't imagine how many casual players quit because of it.

[cold bolt]

pls add any grey/white baggy pants so I can make a walmart gojo cosplay character

[novel lily]

get rid of the function that puts you in games that have already started, and instead punish leavers more heavily. im sick of joining quick cash with one team on the last cashout and my team with barely any kills, the only people this system isnt punishing is the mid game leavers

[quick coyote]

Amen my friend

[hazy shore]

role q when?

[lapis oriole]

Trench coat

[elder blade]

Most if not all gaming monitors have on screen crosshairs, deal with it. All of lights guns should be able to kill the other classes with ease, but the LH1 tops all other guns with it's damage output. Literally the only downside to the LH1 is that it's not good against other lights, that's it.

It is certainly not devastating to miss with a gun that has 15 bullets and can kill with less than 4 (obviously a rare scenario). If you played versus good light players with the LH1 in ranked I guarantee you your opinion of the LH1 would not be so tame.

[restive berry]

Heavies being able to chunk me for over half my health as a L or M, and then putting up 1000hp worth of shields is just too much of a swing in H favour. RPGs need to do 75dmg max. Either give RPG two charges at 75dmg, or make it so “MEGA DAMAGE” is always active for RPGs with only one charge.
Quite a few guns have had their damage nerfed over the past few patches, so the shields feel stronger than before

[dim sun]

i like this change. but devs fix dagger pls

[smoky gust]

light is pretty well balanced for casual imo
from what i have heard, not so much for ranked

if you buff them for ranked, casual will suffer
and its probably hard to find a balancing option that helps them enough in ranked, while not affecting casual

one thing they should do though is cut back on rpg's damage
specifically in lights case, you cant really run something that can be forced to retreat (if not outright killed) in half a second
not even mentioning the effects it can have if you happen to catch 2-3 people close to each other
i cant recall a single heavy the last few days that wasn't running it, its pretty ridiculous

[jagged cedar]

Fix dagger

[limpid light]

I would personally prefer if rpg got hit with a damage nerf but a cool down buff, I want to use it more for utility but I'm always having to save it for more combat situations

[slow void]

#lightlivematter

too much RPG, too much shields, too much heavies ... not fun

it's an heavy game end of story ...

[crude saffron]

can we get a hex handguard skin for the akm please

[native basalt]

all explosives including RPG as well as gas and fat slam should do % max health dmg

[daring siren]

That's the point, the light gives up being able to reliably deal with other lights to be much better at killing the other two classes. And given how close the XP and M11 want you to be in order to reliably kill with them, they deserve a mag size buff.

I play medium with the model 1887 and grenade launcher, I play heavy with M60 and shotgun, and let me tell you an LH1 light is rarely as dangerous as you say they are. Unless you are distracted, but that applies to all light weapons. I win more often against lights who use it than I lose.

I played light with DB, XP, M11, and LH1 extensively, and lemme tell you, the LH1 is absolutely devastating to miss with when your TTK entirely hinges on millisecond differences between the XP, M11, FCAR/AKM, Lewis/M60 that all have a much higher RPM than the LH1.

You clearly have gotten your shit stomped by a good light and just think the gun is OP. You gonna complain about how 'fast' the M11 kills too? Or the DB against all targets below heavy?

[tardy orchid]

Why does WINNING make my rank go down in tournaments? This keeps happening!

[river hill]

That's crazy.

[proper chasm]

Because they changed the number of ladders but didn't change the rules so if you go out in 4th or 3rd in the 1st or 2nd ladder and you don't have some crazy stats you're getting an arrow down my boy

I believe the reason for this is "fuck you and your hopes of getting the Diamond FCAR"

Also very thoughtful of them to over nerf the FCAR to the point the AK is better when the FCAR is this season Diamond reward

[deep wind]

Guys, hello
I've got 5 5600+3060 ti + 32 gb ram 3200 mhz, 144 hz monitor and all my settings are turned on low and i use Nvidia DLSS : Quality
During messy fights i get 80-100 fps and it feels really awful on my monitor with such hz, and actually my GPU is used for 60-75%
Can u share some of ur tips that ure used to optimize the game or what have u done to make fps higher and stable?

[zinc carbon]

Ranked feels worse :/

[hybrid zinc]

so do I just afk this new game mode, every game we're down 2-3... shits trash

[pale sphinx]

DLSS on performance.
Disable motion blur.
Global RTX illumination: static.

@deep wind

take this conversation to #💥┇spawn-point

[versed prairie]

I have less than what you have and I run at 80-100 so I'm just going to guess it's an optimization issue not your pc

[thick sorrel]

The Comparison:

• Heavy [RPG] minor nerf, still must pick
• Medium [Defib] moderate nerf, viable pick
• Light [Stun Gun] criminal nerf, dumb pick

Just compare the pickrates and you will see the truth.

Ask yourself: Would you give up your RPG or Defib in exchange for the Stun Gun?

• Stun Gun should neutralize specializations and/or gadgets.
• RPG should do less Player damage or what @mint lintel said. Increase environmental damage as @fair osprey said.
  Make it even!

[pseudo breach]

Day 41 of asking to put map rotation on a timer for casual. Really sick of getting Horizon and or Vegas 90% of the time.

Also, can we please get South African servers and maybe a latency indicator?

[mint lintel]

Half damage and add 2 charges to rpg

[gritty owl]

if you load into a game of terminal attack with only 2 or 3 players on your team, there shouldn't be a penalty for leaving

[smoky gust]

i love seeing numbers appear at the bottom of my screen for kills, assist, objective etc.
great addition

[novel lily]

Give sniper hella scope drift so that it moves around when you aim, also nerf the charge n slam knockback, it keeps knocking me off ledges to my death and its just stupidly unfair

[fair osprey]

Coming from someone else, the RPG should do (lots) more environmental damage

[elder blade]

XP and M11 are in a good spot. M11s capability is good but if you miss a few shots due to it's recoil pattern you will not be killing the medium/heavy you engaged but you will wipe other lights. XP has good damage at close/medium range and you can one clip mediums quite well at a solid distance and melt heavies to low hp. Neither gun is forgiving to miss with as it results in you not killing the enemy but atleast you did solid damage. A mag increase would make either of the two very strong. The LH1 has the best of both worlds for beaming people at any range and being able to miss a few shots because of the sheer damage each bullet does.

In over 450 hours I've played against maybe 5 or 6 good light players in ranked who have been an actual problem and they've all used either dash sword or dash LH1 like I said before. I really don't get your point of the LH1 being devastating to miss as you have enough bullets in the mag to kill a single target if you miss a couple and maybe even 2 targets if you land your shots.

A lot of people don't realise how broken the LH1 is because light is useless outside of quickplay and good players who have the aim capacity to use the LH1 instead play FCAR or Lewis instead because of how bad light is in it's current state against a good team.

edit: with that statement you're now sounding like the average quickplay light player who uncloaks infront of you and stuns you, only to die the next second. Smart/good light players don't put themselves in direct duels. Either by headglitching (monaco rooftops are a good example) or capitalising off their team being engaged and drawing attention

[slow void]

only heavies that complain to not beeing more OP, more shield, more minigun, more nade, more mines, more heavy stuff ... it's an heavy game since the start.

#lightlivesmatter

[daring siren]

it doesn't matter how many bullets you have in the magazine if you die before you can shoot them off, and with 150 hp, you will die before you can get them off

[viscid lichen]

i finished the terminal attack contracts but didnt get the call me gesture

[willow leaf]

@pseudo latch I don’t think it would make light too viable at all. Heavy and medium are already too viable right now, light needs a buff.
@hazy rapids light is supposed to be a hit and run class, not a support class. Nothing they have relates to support.

[pseudo latch]

Buffing their health isnt it. You make the assassin hard to kill and suddenly theyre good at everything. You lower their damage to balance and theyre just medium with less support.

[drowsy stump]

Sniper is to over powered.

[iron flint]

This is next level lying. The M11 shreds and the ammo helps alot. What rank are you

[hazy rapids]

They stay outside of sight and wait until their team engages and then SUPPORT from flanking angles. Thier low survivability demands they stay out of direct firefights.

[dim sun]

dagger

[cinder ridge]

this is truth m11 dash build is completely viable even against plat and diamond players.

[upper citrus]

give contestants an extra $500 per kill while they are defending a cashout

[violet pulsar]

GIVE ME MY STUN GUN BACK or at least buff light after nerfing it

[carmine thistle]

Ngl Fix the glitch bug & buff it to 7-8 seconds.

[lyric zenith]

I have been only playing Finals for 3 months, I have 150hrs to my record today and hit Plat 4 before writing this.
It has been journey

First time i heard about the game January from few friends and watched them stream it in discord.
I only got few thoughts,

1)Game is too fast paced for me, i never really liked CoD or any other single player shooters.
2)Too flashy and unrealistic, Have been playing Battlefields (4 and BC2 for ages now)
3)It looks little fun, light game play is fast pacing and really fun to watch. My reflection time is too slow for this game.

It took about one month to settle in, i did some digging on few Dev's who are onboard making this game.
Then it hit me, Too much correlation with Battlefield destruction and movement is like mirrors edge.

I wanted to try but hesitated, went into first match with heavy with sledgehammer and it took my soul with it.

I could fkn destroy everything and slide to enemies and beat them to death from above because Medium dropped jump pad.
My bad reflection times didnt matter so much, gamesense makes more than that.
I started grinding in some hours and got few friends with me.

It has been more than i ever could imagine from FPS game.

There has been Hacker problems, Solved eventually to better as writing after 2.6.

Only downsides for me has been for Finals is the theres not so much variaton after 120+hrs.
Yeah, Any game aint the same or map couldnt be played the same because destruction.
Still there something missing, I love playing different game modes and Powershift and terminal attack made new spark.

I still would like to see what is coming, because this game has so much potential.
It aint over for long time.

Marketing needs more polishing in my mind too, havent seen any other than Discord "quest" what caused backslash.
In my opinion it was good marketing, theres almost never bad marketing.
You guys can reach more players if done right.

TL;DR
Love the game, keep updates coming and the players keeps coming.

[bleak coral]

W

[dense niche]

Hey friend, I'm removing this mostly due to how bad those usernames are, but I'm escalating it to the security team I also recommend reaching out to support and asking them to check those people https://id.embark.games/support

[worldly scaffold]

No Snipers Power shift playlist, when you once in a half moon get a match with no snipers, the mode is so much more fun and engaging

[earnest ermine]

Add more Snipers to Power Shift.

[static wolf]

game hangs on a frame and crashed my whole computer. i restart and i have a 10 minute suspension while the game is ongoing? Thanks Embark 👍

[plush cloak]

Ok Turrets need a hard nerf. One they have to much health. I have idea to solve how bad it is in the meta rn Each turret placed by one team should nerf the fire rate and health of each turret down. So for example let's just say normally it's 1000 if one more on that team is placed down it should drop to 666 for both then if there's 3 it would be 333 so about a third. I don't think the DMG needs a nerf but the fire rate should drop accordingly just as the health for each turret down. This basically makes it so having 3 turrets down nerfs them BUT if you only have one nothing is done to the stats

[tardy orchid]

Loaded into a game as the only one on my tournament team. Almost qualified SOLO and then got 2 down arrows. This feels very wrong.

[drowsy niche]

I don't get the season pass items even if I got the associated ranks ??!

(look at the locks)

[quick coyote]

light is fine in ranked, but most of its effectiveness is better paired with a team using comms
ex: whats the point of glitching a whole team if they will only shoot at a single target(you)

@elder blade
M11 is not only a solid starter weapon, they buffed so much thats its actually quite good if you are a half decent aimer. good hipfire, good/forgiving magsize, fast reloads and melts anyone in close quarters. they only real downside being its short range, it loses damage fast past 15 meters

[violet rover]

did you think about buying the season pass? should solve your problem (if you are not trolling)

[elder blade]

@quick coyote The M11 is good yes (my 2nd favourite light gun with LH1 being first), but in my experience it's still not as good as the LH1 in any situation (besides dueling another light). Light needs some serious buffs to become a common sight in ranked. The glitch grenade buffs were a good start, the stungun and cloak need to be reverted. But even with those light is still weak in ranked.

[brave ice]

Thanks. The best option I could find on Embark support was under report player cheating but I did report all three names under it so hopefully something will happen

[willow leaf]

Turrets will always be annoying because they literally have aimbot. It will never be fun to play against. They need to completely rework them into something better and more fun.

[hazy rapids]

Turrets are annoying but almost nobody runs Data Reshaper. It literally deletes them.

[lilac coral]

Playing since early January GGs love the game keep it up

[junior cedar]

Restart the game, I have the same bug

[warm sorrel]

Nerf turrets they do to much damage and shoot to fast

[limber granite]

fr

[coral axle]

unreal engine 5.4 for season 3. please!

[hearty sun]

add a distance metric to damage history on death screen

[delicate yoke]

Light class needs a pretty big overall buff. As of now, it is the weakest class and receives way too many nerfs. 2.6.0 ruined the dagger, which is already janky, as well as cloak, which was light's most important tool for remaining stealthy. The stun gun also got nerfed way more then needed: using specializations and gadgets is way too much when the point of stun is to neutralize a threat, not slow it down. The new s2 weapon is severely underpowered and lh1 is very difficult to control for a class based around movement.
So anyways, we need buffs. :/

[sly wharf]

buff the hammer for the heavy

[weary edge]

For the love of god tweak the stealing cashouts weekly mission I should not have to fight with my teammates to progress a challenge

[night glen]

Any game mode that has nor respawns or healing should also not have weapons that do a huge amount of damage, like snipers, for example. It makes the game less enjoyable.

[frail wave]

Force Solo Queue for Diamond+ players

[plush plume]

This is just a fun balance idea, I know they should probably not balance that way and I am very aware that what I am going to present is very unconventional. So don't blast me for it. What if to make light more viable in ranked rounds you make the cash kill reward 500 for light instead of the normal 200. Like this, lets say the light gets 10 kills in a round, that's 5000 which could win you the game. Yeah but light has many other problems that should be tackled first, this was just a fun idea I had while playing.

[woven pecan]

I cannot wait for this game to die

[bleak coral]

add the smart pistol from titanfall

[tough merlin]

Search and destroy has snipers in every other game >.> (terminal attack is search and dsetroy just renamed)

[slow compass]

this might be nuts but what if a seperate solo que mode was added for ranked

[upper citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/kurt-angle-stare-100-yard-stare-meme-gif-251436459491629941

[frosty viper]

Hello everyone! If anyone can answer me is it just me or is background music not in my game anymore like the interactive music and stuff which makes the game like not feel the same but maybe it’s just me??? Please reply because maybe I’m just crazy!

[clear drift]

are you crazy? the server would shut down from the amount of complaints

[queen cloud]

ye, heavies are busted af. My counter to them is abusing movement tech with medium. But this is in quickplay where everyone is soo ass even with sbmm.
I usually run jumpad and zipline and you can do some cool stuff with zips. One is quick short zip into jumpad, it will send you flying like a jumpad on a sloap, but you have to be quick to pull it off. Another one is probably not intended Soo I'm not giving it away here. They already patched most of the cool stuff you could do with zips on release ..

That and 500h of kovaaks fcar beaming 😄

[woven pecan]

Again, I can NOT wait for this game to die.
It's not fun.
The MMH or HHM is dumb

Diamonds should be in their own lobbies like overwatch.

This game isn't going to make it and I don't feel bad that it doesn't

[jade ingot]

git gud

[short solstice]

There isn’t enough diamonds to do that, and the disparity between D4 and even D2 is huge

[limber granite]

what is the added cars to finals 💀

[misty jasper]

please fix heal beam bug :x just keeps breaking at the final round and it's throwing for me every single game

[tawny oriole]

embark are cleaning the game from cheaters and i can only say so fresh and so clean clean , where are those chinese cheaters hahahahaaah all disappeared , Good job dear devs

[magic cobalt]

So why are you in the discord wasting your energy on a game you wish to die? You are actively supporting it being in here and assumingly so you probably still play. Lol dumbie

[quick coyote]

Because the game has become increasingly unfun every single time Embark touches the game. This game is Early Access, at best. Embark has needed their hand held with every single update. FFS their ranked system has been an ADMITTED failure by the game designer, and they're about to redo it AGAIN for S3. Anyone that thinks this shit is going smoothly is delusional.

[thorn glade]

I wish we could save outfit presets in this game I’ve made so many good outfits and stuff but then when I make a new one I can’t keep a old one I’ve made that I actually liked I think it would be a cool idea to add saveable custom outfits plz thanks

[woven pecan]

Lol im diamond 4 I bet you aren't there and I bet you're going to lie saying you are.

This game just isn't met for competitive play.

Send me an invite so I can see your rank. I bet it's silver

Weed panties lol don't talk to me with your profile Pic being meatwad. 1v1. Bet you wont

[cinder ridge]

I think aside from random low skill weapons and gadgets/abilities (cloak) the game is not that bad. The matchmaking is shit in ranked but it’s getting a rework (based off the complaints of ranked players) so that should improve and I’ve seen a lot less cheaters. The replay ability is there and it’s still fun to outplay and shit on people more than most arcade style fps games

[solar cradle]

terminal attack should have defib as gear with one charge and bring the revived player back to 100 health.

[solemn obsidian]

Matchmaking glitches and now im suspended, plz fix. Im a good boy i swear

[upper citrus]

if you ever need to make the "invisible" ability "more visible" in your game then it is inherently poorly designed. please make it full invis and silent with cloak and decloak times you cannot shoot out of

[restive berry]

I'm diamond on voltaic but it just isn't enough, doesn't matter how good my aim is if they have 1000hp of shields and 2 rpgs

[nova veldt]

Make it so you can test multiple different skin items together, before having to buy seperatly and learning that they dont look good together

[limber granite]

they should hvae really ads in the bill boards "whopper whopper junior triple doubble whopper"

[placid hazel]

ranked is unplayable I get 10 fps but I get 140 in every other gamemode

[cinder ridge]

If you’re saying make cloak more of a positioning ability than a kill ability then I agree. I think the only way to balance it correctly is make it better inside but make it so there’s a delay to shoot after decloak. Maybe have hands out while invis and have to draw gun upon decloak? Would seem like a better use for it imo. @placid hazel never had that issue. Ranked plays the same as quick play for me but they all have poor server stability it seems like. My frames are always fine though.

[severe wave]

Nerf flamethrower now that fcar is nerfed this thing shreds its the most unskill weapon in the game aswell cant even call it a weapon...

[tepid prairie]

Bring more players to the finals- give them something they can relate to and are familiar with that’s fun, casual and replayable.

Terminal attack was a great start. I like the mode although team deathmatch/ free for all is more of my thing.

I think capture the flag and a cloak and dagger/ an infected type game mode has crazy potential in a game like the finals.

I keep saying this but I think the finals players will really benefit from some of its existing and potential game modes being limited to certain landmarks on existing maps, rather then having the whole map to roam.

Make rank tournaments unique enough that it stands superior over all other modes, I suggested ranked tournaments being available 4 days or so of the week rather then always but it was not well received, I think this will really focus ranked play.

The trick is to get more players with the other modes then make rank really unique and enticing. if it’s always available then it’ll just be another game mode but if it’s a “windowed game mode” then it’s seen as something unique that everyone is jumping in at a certain time to rank up/earn special rewards but most of all to be apart of the MAIN EVENT of the week! Moving ranked gameplay from quantity to quality games.

So many implications there for challenges, contracts, rewards, and overall progression but I’m just sharing my thoughts ultimately i feel like this game will become really good. I’m confident that this game is in good hands.
❤️ Embark / thanks for making this masterpiece!

[quick coyote]

Lights can be 1 shot by multiple weapons. Every single thing they have, has been nerfed. They even gave lights tracking dart AND nerfed it at the same time, when it was already never used. Imagine nerfing a thing nobody uses lol. Cloak is nearly completely visible at all times. For real dude, if you can't see it, fix your monitor, get a better one, change your settings, idk. But I've been able to see it nearly all the time since launched.

[swift horizon]

wouldn't be cool if dome shields can trap smoke and gas?

[mellow geyser]

The single biggest problem with the game is the slow recovery of your health. It is so slow people will track you down across the map, so you spend large amounts of time hiding and running (not fun). And it limits the ability of a single player to make great plays—a critical element to any great PVP game. Cut the recovery time in half and watch the game flourish. It’s a serious game play flaw.

[rapid stream]

just press the S key

[gray wharf]

How can i even rank up if my tm8 random tm8 keep selling i know damn well i deserve plat

[desert quartz]

Is there a vignette ADS setting? I started up my game and notice this when ADS for the first time

[magic cobalt]

What's wrong with meatwad? I'm Plat 4 play a couple ranked games a day and chill out in quick play with the homies..I'm enjoying the game but I'm def down for your 1v1 offer you sound entitled and ugly honestly. Ugly soul ugly personality.

[noble ember]

The challenge to play 10 matches of Terminal Attack is broken for me. It says 13/10.

[daring fossil]

womp womp #game-announcements message

[upper citrus]

Give teams an extra $500 per kill while defending a cashout they own. It’s such a disadvantage being on defense. You have to win multiple fights to secure your cashout and the enemy only has to win 1

[quick coyote]

This has already probably been said but more cross hair customization like CS or even just Over watch would be amazing.

[stoic torrent]

Healing beam needs to be fixed one game it works the next it doesn’t and it’s very inconsistent especially in ranked

[trim charm]

Please make grappling hook more viable (2 charges, lower cooldown, etc).

Right now light basically only has 2 specializations

[restive berry]

Give an additional $400 to a team that full wipes another team. Atm it's 200 per kill, so 600. If another team kills one, then you don't full wipe and still only get 200 per kill.
The early fights feel quite meaningless, to the point where if you're 1v3, the best thing to do is jump off the map and get a quick reset.
I know if the team wipes they lose money, but if it's really early, there's no money to lose from being wiped.

[mossy cape]

you gotta play 14 for the challenge to complete. its bugged

[hardy bridge]

defending teams always have a positional advantage

[upper citrus]

The team 3rd partying has the biggest advantage and does the least work. Also, that is very dependent on where the cashout is located

[topaz ledge]

Pyro nades are ineffective at anything except keeping people off of cashouts, i think they should have more utility and damage in combat as well. The current state of the nade is that they are only doing real damage if you hit someone directly with it, otherwise it is next to nothing

[visual slate]

Has anyone else noticed the game not registering the gadget menu multiple times on controller since this last patch or is my controller going bad?

[zinc carbon]

Playing quick cash feels like giving me a lump of shit and telling me to eat it

[woven pecan]

Negative, I'm going to join the others who already dropped this game. Almost have the platinum for it

This game and having cash outs be 22k at the end for teams to get lucky is dumb.

I CANNOT wait for this game to fail

[terse lark]

please make cloak activation less. like 2.5-3s

[ionic ether]

Please tell me why I just started a ranked tournament with 2 people on my team and an entire team full of diamonds (I'm Plat 4)

[earnest sierra]

how is this fair for the purple team?

[glacial sierra]

man i feel bad for people how play ranked and care about it. played a few tournaments to try and get the stupid @#$%@#$ steal 15 cashouts thing progressed, and the number of absolute morons who just run off in different directions, or quit as soon as they get killed by someone. it's amazing.

[woven pecan]

This is one of the worst competitive games I have ever played. It's so bad.
sbmm is non existent.

The fact that terrible teams can qualify because a vault ends up being 22K is fucking dumb

Diamonds need their OWN lobbies that's it.
Stop looping them in with us.
Terrible game through and through.

Once I get all the trophies I'm going to uninstall.
Im glad I didn't spend any money on this game. They don't deserve a dime

[graceful hollow]

I dare you to play one more

[olive wraith]

Can we get a full VAIYA set please? Stuff looks sick!

[hollow tide]

we need a casual game mode with original nukes

[quick coyote]

@pearl kiln
Gadget And Weapon Ideas

Heavy:
Anti tank weapon
perks: it can shoot through wall and heavy barriers but can only pass through 1 wall or barrier
Cons: it is very slow as a priary weapon and only does medium amounts of damage

Medium:
Fire extiguisher
perks: allows for quick smoke effect or puting on fire teamates out along with allowing to put out on fire goo walls that have been placed down
Cons: the extinguisher has a 30 ammo capacity per round after use it goes onto cooldown for 1 minute

Light:
Airstrike
Perks: allows the light class to go over to wherrever they want look at a position within a certain range of themselves and send a 5 rocket airstrike
Cons: 3 minute cool down

[earnest sierra]

bro think he playing pubg

@woven pecan u must be the first version of chatGPT with how stupid ur💀

[versed dagger]

add CS cases 🗣️🔥🔥🔥

[still walrus]

game needs to add a match history feature, passed top 10 games or something like that showing team mates and names and their scoreboard.

[woven pecan]

Bro is a legit clown.
Think I can't tell the difference between Player Unknown Battlegrounds and trash arse Finals.

Go play fornite you, wonderful human being

[graceful hollow]

holy this is the biggest skill issue cope I've ever seen on this server, I agree that you should uninstall 😂😂

or ur a troll cuz the shit you've been spewing is hilarious
@woven pecan

[quick coyote]

why is the APS turret so broken? it has no setup time, no cooldown or limit like what am i supposed to do if they're carrying like 3 lmao

[halcyon dock]

🤡

[sinful igloo]

negative nancy over here!

[earnest sierra]

after this game i queued for another and there was a team with 2 golds and 1 unranked! unranked in plat lobby??

[versed cloud]

I am totally fine with losing to a good player, but the amount of people who expose themselves with their impossible "map awareness" makes me wonder how dumb these hackers really are. It's even funnier now that recon senses are removed because its just blatant wall hacks (noticing this more while playing against diamonds)

[analog void]

you can use special abilities when you get respawned with a defibrillator and it does nothing please fix this

[woven pecan]

Lol all of you who THINK you're better than me PLEASE 1v1.

I know none of you are diamonds like me so let's run it 😈😈😈

[severe wave]

💀 Your not even diamond yourself lmao

[livid raft]

internet went out, i missed the end of game 1 in a tourney. It comes back while game 2 in progress and I can't rejoin. That is dumb

[hollow tide]

bring back nukes

[plain kiln]

QOL Suggestion: option to limit fps in menus, and when game is in background

[quaint forge]

CAN YOU GUYS FUCKING FIX YOUR SBMM? LIKE SERIOUSLY, IVE BEEN FUCKING DERANKING FOR SO FUCKING LONG AND CANT RANK UP

[mossy marlin]

"We are fixing cheating" lmao

[past relic]

Light will be nerfed, invisibility much shorter, zap completely useless now. But nothing happens at all with the medium? Infinite heal, Turret does more damage than the weapons from the lights. You play solo and have to play against trio q, 3 mediums who heal and revive each other throughout. Top game

[drowsy stump]

Take healing beam away I could care less about heals I want my damage back as a medium kinda unfair when both H and L is op

[misty jasper]

fix heal beam please

[arctic bramble]

LMH should have different health regen values. For example: light has a small health pool, but in return is able to regenerate it the quickest, this also applies to being healed. A heavy heals the slowest, also applying with heal beam.

invis should be removed as a specialization and instead focused on as the current gadget vanished bomb. as a replacement to that ability, light should get the heal beam. this will act as a natural nerf to heal beam as it will be faster to take out the player that’s healing.

Weapon gunplay and balancing: weapons such as the lewis gun, M60 shouldn’t have such a high recoil sway from left to right. i understand the intention is to nerf it’s accuracy over range, but i feel that it is too disruptive of a recoil and doesn’t make for fluid gameplay, instead, focus on tweaking the damage over range while allowing the player to be able to fire a weapon that feels smooth and responsive. those are only 2 guns i can think of that this most applies to at the moment, but i believe it’s a step in the right direction for gunplay.

[inner scaffold]

banana skin for the lights pistol

[woven pecan]

The best thing they can do for ranked is do like overwatch

Make ppl play 1 light
1 medium
And 1 heavy

[upper citrus]

there is no way people continue to fall for your bait

[quick coyote]

Valid

[dim sun]

please fix the dagger. it was my favorite weapon and now that its unplayable it makes me not want to play the game

[quick coyote]

pls better anti cheat

[stray valley]

still does like 30 damage if u hit someone directly, needs a buff

[warm compass]

embark you destroyed the fucking game i hate you you nerfed the light is unplayable . most players now are new and noobs . thankvyou for listening to low iq community uninstall

[real scroll]

3000 damage for 1 kill. Heal gun needs a rework

[thick sorrel]

Honest Gadget Comparison:

• Heavy [RPG] minor nerf, still must pick (approx. 99,999%)
• Medium [Defib] moderate nerf, viable pick (approx. 80%)
• Light [Stun Gun] criminal nerf, dumb pick (maybe 50% of all Lights, but only because they are used to it and can't let go or they don't read the patch notes)

Just compare the pickrates and you will see the truth. Less Opinions, more numbers!

Ask yourself: Would you give up your RPG or Defib in exchange for the Stun Gun?

Solution:

• Stun Gun should neutralize specializations and gadgets.
• RPG should do less damage.

Note:
RPG is a gadget meant for destruction. But does too well in Killing or weakening opponents in regards for it's easy (no skill) handling!
Compare it to frag grenades, which is meant for just killing, but it's way harder to pull of kills with it.

[topaz ledge]

the impact is next to nothing, but the fire damage kills if theres no heal beam, after an eternity
forgot to mention

[clever hawk]

Good decision making the default Quickplay mode one with brutal rules and deep tactical variance, devs.

New players will definitely stick around when their very first game gives them 30 second respawns on every single death, going up to 60 on a teamwipe. They definitely will not constantly leave the match and uninstall the game.

Players with 5 minutes experience will definitely understand the intricacies of 4 teams fighting over two objectives at a time.

Bravo 👏

[steep moon]

I didn’t get the cns hoodie after completing all the terminal attack challenges

[civic igloo]

there is a visual bug with one of the missions, you need to play 14 matches Terminal Attack instead of 10 to unlock the CNS hoodie.

[mint lintel]

Wtf just play quick cash go to obj and tell them it’s the bomb and no one can defuse it

[nocturne surge]

A lot of negativity in these chats. Devs you’re doing a great job. Keep it up with the frequent updates

[drifting gorge]

This is all true

[pine flower]

S3 better fix the final round. It’s so fucking vacant it’s boring

[stray valley]

why'd they change the name change to 30 days? is that the worst change ever? what was wrong with 10 minutes?

[tough merlin]

probably to combat cheaters, it'd be easy for cheaters to spam name change eafter every game to make it harder to report

@thick sorrel to be clear I agree - im just adding the one of the reasons people still use stun is for stunning off cashouts (its the only thing it retained from the nerf that that has any use at all imo) stunning off cashouts is still really really good when it comes into play but yeah if i could trade it for a rpg or defib I would lol.

[hollow tide]

bring back nukes

[upper citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/no-gif-25913746

[glass hawk]

Yeah why not? Let's buff heavy even more

[hardy bridge]

Give heavy a minigun dual deagles a 50 cal give med a Crossbow give light a railgun and a bow

[topaz ledge]

heal beam rework:

rationale: heal beam should be a util used to heal teammates back up after a firefight, or in a quiet moment between fire exchanges, not a crutch tool that allows teammates to go completely idle in a firefight, except for healing one near immortal player that does all the shooting and takes all the damage, which is quickly replenished
This is targeted towards towards MMX, mainly heavy, setups where there are two beams, especially considering the recent balance changes making heavies demigods

suggestions: shooting a playing that is being healed "breaks" the beam and puts the heal beam into cooldown, or at least into a delay period. this would discourage using the beam during a firefight and makes the use of heal beam more strategic, instead of people brainlessly holding beam and standing still

Alternatively, the effect of beams can be reduced when there are multiple beams being used on one player, or the beam effect could have a different effect for each class/beam behavior could be different for each class(have to be closer to heavies to heal or lights get longer heal distance or heavily reduced heal but through walls for either light or med)

I don't like the idea of heal beam being the only medium specialization that doesn't require significant skill or thinking to use well,

• demat can drastically change games with positioning, reverse the flow of firefights, allow for clutch plays and cashout steals
• turret can protect key locations and even deter teams and partial-teams from attacking a position, however the placement and coordination needs to be well done in order for maximum impact
• heal beam is an apply-to-all situations, free heal that can either heal a large chunk of health for all teammates or near-full health for several teammates with an irrelevant cooldown that is rarely ever hit and that rarely lasts long enough to disrupt plays or support, so many players choose it because they can't do well with the other specs
  devs please

[cyan nova]

easier support for linux

[thick sorrel]

Should RPG (Main Purpose Destruction) really exceeds in Player Damage compared to Frag Grenades (Main Purpose Kills)?

Why would you ever pick frag grenades over RPG?

It's so easy and strong - it could be a Specialization and not a gadget.
Even in CoD RPG isn't that much annoying...

[hybrid cliff]

make heal beam only work when the player being healed is not actively shooting, or something.

[cerulean echo]

i feel all instances of the character models in the menus and loadout selection screen should be rotatable. it can be done on your character in the selection screen but it should be on all instances, even with any teammate models' so that the game can express its drip and encourage others to buy skins if they decided they liked someone's style or thier back accessories. its free advertisement

[half iris]

This games utter rubbish now, wait time for a game is long, random match making but no way to communicate if someone doesn’t want to use a mic, in a team based game, then the teams in every match are just stacked with whatever OP trash ppl can use. The thrill of battling is gone, everyone is using the easiest weapon possible, 9/10 games it’s ppl camping behind a shield while a light runs around and kills 9 players with a one tap. It’s only fun for that guy, everyone is either camping the cash out or waiting to respawn because classss have the ability the wipe a team out in second. There’s some really silly mistakes been made, the game fundamentally is good but it promotes this “easy option”. The battling was the attraction for a lot of ppl. That’s gone. 3 games I’ve tried to play this morning, 3 of them ruined by load out choices. Can’t make it so powerful against non coordinated teams, it’s no fun for the guys who don’t want to flame or rocket or sword. I enjoy shooting personally. But in this game I’ll often find I get side or back jumped by a melee weapon with a ridiculous OP dmg dealt value. 360 for some, that’s more than the Hp. Or a team of lights going invisible, how are you meant to aim at something you can’t see, coupled with a sword or mac10, Moronic decision for shooter.

[quick coyote]

Source: trust me bro.

The rpg is completely fine where it’s at. Does insane damage if too close to the shooter, slowest ADS, even made the trajectory worse AND it’s seen a damage nerf already

This game keeps getting worse and worse, Seriously, I've been plat 1 / Diamond 4 and ranked keeps getting horrible. I don't know if it's the horrible constant changes 1) Changing everything every single week, cool downs, guns, recoil patterns. 2) They don't know what to do with light class, they are too cheesy / overpowered in the hands of good people using sword emote cancel or Lh1 and 99% it's a throw pick in ranked, Majority of the utilities of light class is nerfed to the ground with no use. 3) Anti cheat yes they're trying their best but too much damage has been done 4) What the hell is this arrow shit, Have you played Valorant? CS? staples of tourney / ranked play. Hell even destiny 2 has a simple and coherent rank system. What is this ambiguous arrow shit? 5) Spawns are worse than season 1, Who in your team keeps thinking that forcing third parties is a good FPS mechanic, people like fair fights, not to be dogged on by a third party that just spawned near you after fending off an attacking team.

@half iris I seen this too many times, in 2-3 seasons it's wraps for this game. as sad as it is

[rough herald]

APS: Proactivity and fck your projectile problem (Day 24 of asking)

Notes:
. to start off, i love the idea of the aps, the ability of being able to defend an area locking down a room is fun
. but its just unfair in some situation all because the "fck your projectile" part of APS.
for a weapon like the GL that shoot projectile you basically lose the fight automatically
. and for powershift its basically mandatory to win (that gamemode need a rework tbh)
. also seens we're talking about powershift, its basically impossible to destroy the aps not only because the wall but also the fact that it can be replace instantly due to no cooldown on destroy
. its also a one and done. meaning once you place it down it just stay there forever
**
Suggestion: what i want to see**
. (fck your projectile) either make it so it take damage with each projectile destroy. Or it can only destroy 3 projectile then broke
. and also give it a 3 second activation time like the turret have

Suggestion: what i would like to see but ok without
. (One and Done) make it lose hp overtime
. cool down on destroy

(embark pls fix )

[pine flower]

The final round is stupid and boring. Now that ranked is only three rounds everyone is experiencing it’s mediocrity more often. Please for the love of christ make it more interesting. I dread making it to the Finals because if I’m solo queuing I’m gonna get smoked and if I’m in a team I’m gonna steamroll the other. Everything about it is sad. No variety just MHH v MHH and whoever is on a team on pc wins. Fuckin yawn

[quick coyote]

Diamond Skin for the Cat Pet as well as other skins. Also please give us a intro emote where we're playing with our cats! I wanna dangle a piece of yarn in front of em!

[thick sorrel]

Dude, always the same excuses to keep that Heavy exclusive OP annoying shit.

• "But but it does huge selfdamage."
  It's not meant for CQB !
• ADS? Wtf You hipfire RPG bro...
• Damage nerfed but still outshines every other gadget, even those who are meant for kills like frag grenade - which every class can use.
  Sure keep RPG as it is, because it's completely fine as you said. Than make RPG available for all classes!

RPG Description:

• “Fires LONG-range, high-explosive missiles that detonate on impact”

@quick coyote Give Heavy (Prenerf) Stun Gun and switch RPG to Light. Fair?
Responding to my Heavy RPG post with Medium Defib argument. Whats wrong with you?

[quick coyote]

Medium has defib and heal beam which are waaaay stronger and game changing

[woeful zodiac]

Kill the medium, the nerfed defib

[woven pecan]

Got diamond again, I quit!

[half iris]

I’m not even joking, I’ve played 5 quick games now, every single time I’m in a gun fight, wich is fun, i get smashed by a sword or stupid batton, the shield guy, deals ridiculous damage with melee but normal melee does 40, so can’t shoot him - it invites a CQC, but he can one tap me, I’ve gotta get him what, 6/7 hits ? Or suddenly someone appears from nowhere for a split second, takes most of your damage, goes in visible. There’s just no point playing the game unless you want to camp to win or play, imo, silly weapons. I don’t think flamer thrower coupled with rocket should be in any multiplayer, guns should be more or less the same in damage terms - so the fight is about reactions instead of just one shorting. I just had light in my team who was using a sniper rifle inside the build in souel, it’s useless he’s always dead were a man down. Honestly doesn’t feel like any point to play the game gonna get laned on at some point, every match it happens.

[loud echo]

Beam users are super vulnerable, you need to go for them (synchronize with team and flank)

[dusk copper]

Being hit by a gadget should do damage, maybe just as much as a quick v

[pliant lion]

I completely agree with you, but it can still be really infuriating to play against.

Yesterday we won two ranked matches against two Diamond 1 lights (#51 and #48 on the leaderboards at the time), both were blatantly cheating, spamming headshots with an LH1 at 150+ meters. Both with seemingly throwaway steam accounts. They even "came to get me" after both my teammates died while I was hiding to revive them, they couldn't have known I was where I was but they just immediately ran straight to me an prefired the corner I was around.

Luckily they were both lights and preoccupied with another team during the final cashout of the match so we could third party them and capture the cashout.

Bottom line is that the cheaters in this game are luckily often bad enough at everything other that shooting that in some cases they don't stand a chance against a well coordinated team. The worst cheaters imo are usually heavies with the Lewis gun, you're dead before you know they're shooting at you and if they're not completely braindead they can barely be killed because of the abundance of shield options the heavy has.

[thick sorrel]

Nobody complains about

• C4
• frag grenade
  because it takes some skill and you could run away.

Highly complains about

• RPG
• explosive Mines
  Takes no skill and you can't run away.

[quick coyote]

LESSEN FP LOSS for when you have less than 3 team mates in ranked FFS. Someone left because we had a light and now we are losing no fucking shit. This game man.. man fuck this game

[signal basin]

Well... I would love an indicator for nade.

[trim sphinx]

pls stop nerfing weapons，you can try to enhance weapons to make they restrain each other，isn't this a kind of balance? and this will make a better in the finals im sure，continuous nerfs will make the game boring，trust me，i 💋 love the finals

[patent night]

potato launcher

[novel lily]

seoul is a horrible power shift map and nothing you say will change my mind

[glass pendant]

Please buff weak guns like ks-23. We had enough nerfs lets make off meta players happy

[swift gust]

Day 4 (even though I have been asking since Day 1 of Finals) of requesting the devs to bring back the open beta optimization.

[rough herald]

nice patch note 👍

[keen heath]

Nice patch one problem still cant dash dagger please fix this

[river plover]

Oh my god fix the dagger Im about to go fucking ballistic its one of your main weapons you cant just ignore it and all the people that put hundreds of hours trying to get good with it.
Get your shit together AND FIX THE FUCKING DAGGER AAAAAHH

[stray valley]

hold to fire famas please devs, that would bring the gun up to ak and fcar level. ily hardworking devs

[hoary creek]

best item store on any game hands down, not even a contest. love the wings, love the goth mommy. +rep best design team <33

[thick sorrel]

I prefer a visual better noticable grenade and soundcue when landing next to you. But remove the throw trajectory... feels easy mode and no skill needed.

[gaunt perch]

So the store update only applies to some bundles? I wanted to get the Arena Security riot shield but I'm not paying 1850 credits for that. Please consider making all bundled items in the game individually purchasable. I want to mix and match items to create my own outfits, I shouldn't have to spends thousands and thousands of credits just to get a few items I want to combine together..

[fringe adder]

PLEASE BRING BACK THE OLD ENEMY HEALTHBAR and just a sugjestion how about some buff for some weapons and how can a turret have more hp than the medium

[woeful path]

FIX LEVEL 5 AND 6 WEAPON SKINS. LOL ITS BEEN A PROBLEM SINCE DAY 1 GUYS THIS IS INSANE. FIX LEVEL 5 AND LEVEL 6 WEAPON SKINS. THEY ARE GLITCHED AND HAVE BEEN GLITCHED SINCE LAUNCH

[near silo]

AGREED. Honestly, melee overall needs a buff- some small things like the mouse 1 attack for the sledge and riot shield need more damage, but the most important change that would make them great:

You need to be able to damage multiple players with a a single "sweeping" attack. Like the mouse 1 of the seldge hammer or sword, they should be able to hit multiple opponents, as at its core it punishes players for blobbing too hard in shields and goo.

[glass pendant]

Please add horizon map to solo bank it in private matches. You can choose it for bank it but not for solo bank it for some reason

[plucky perch]

Secret patch?

[strange ermine]

Imo, the easiest way to buff them is just to give melee a movespeed boost by default. It makes the job of closing distance and staying alive that much easier.

[deft valve]

Yeah.... This is spot on

[polar mist]

If you don't nerf Heavy first, no one will play the game even if you add skins.

[lyric zenith]

They just made big update week ago 😄
i really dont expect big updates every week really, i hope better patches more rarely than shitty ones every day.
They made security update and put out few skins with that

[hollow ridge]

Help?

[smoky gust]

i agree that healing beam needs some kind of nerf, but not what you suggested

if it only breaks, it would lead to players spam clicking
this may lead to the downside becoming negligible
but even if it didn't, it might make it annoying to use (granted, in a situation where it shouldn't be, but ya know)

and its effects shouldnt be lessened if used by multiple people
it would lead to situations where you are literally worse off for trying to help (because shooting would be more helpful for example)

ill try to think of another solution

[rough herald]

the imbalance of skill in Heavy vs Light match up:

Notes:

• i just want to say i am no top 500 player nor do i have diamond rank, but i am above average in skill level
  Light vs heavy is a one sided match up in favor of the heavy as not only he have double hp of light he also have almost as much dps as the light making a normal hit trade engagement
• the match up is still very much do-able for the light but it require much more skill to win compare to how much - - skill the heavy need to win
• 140 damage rpg
• rising skill floor of light due to all the nerf and bad match up

Suggestion: my personal suggestion

• buff light out of combat regen by halfening the time need to triger regen
• revert all the controversial nerf light get like the invis 33% thing, stun gun and more (also remove the dash spamming cooldown pls)
  --
• nerf heavy rpg form 140 to 50-100 damage, and give it 2 charge to compensate
• nerf most heavy weapon dps form rn around 200dps to 150dps or even lower

(also pls add nock back to all damage at least just the explosive ones, it'll give so much more outplay-ability)

[restive sphinx]

"This week, you will feel a difference in the number of cheaters you encounter in the game. Multiple new rules have been implemented and changes to how and when cheaters are detected. These new changes mean that cheaters are being detected and removed faster." thank you for trying your best, really nice to see something is being worked on, I'm spending a lot of money to support you because I love the game.

[scenic path]

please add dxb or sea server

[proper chasm]

Another update another week of me complaining about the ranked being crappy since 2.6

[plucky perch]

Apparently its a ban for cheating. Got the same, reached out to support, didnt get any help yet i have never cheated

[spare cape]

Please add haptic adaptive trigger support for ps5 would be a huge quality of life change for console this is my favorite game and it would be so dope to feel all the guns gadgets and proper rumble when running through walls and terrain please don’t over look this

[pliant lion]

@winged estuary Honestly as someone who plays mostly medium I'm glad they nerfed the FCAR. Now there's a reason to pick other M weapons again. To me it's one of the better nerfs they've done to medium. There's still plenty of people using the weapon so apparently they didn't make it completely unsuable. It might be better off if they slightly improved the recoil or something to make it a little easier to control at longer ranges, as it's positioned as a longer range alternative to the AKM right now. A change like that might be difficult though without making it too easy to beam people at any range.

@smoky gust In my opinion not being able to stack the healing effect would be an effective nerf. Maybe keep a max healing rate similar to that of one healing beam, but reduce the "heating up" factor of the healing beam if multiple beams are healing a single person? That way it's still beneficial to heal a single person with 2 healing beams, while they're not borderline invincible while beaing healed.

[gusty wagon]

good job on the cheaters. havent seen a cheater since last week’s update.

[coarse jewel]

Fix your matchmaking, it's kind of frustrating to play a whole power shift game with 2 teammates :)