Imagine wanting to heavily punish people in literally the most casual of content.
#retired-patch-6-3-discussion
rain onyx
gaunt star
And I cry out in anger when I see people who can’t get through dohn meg
untold gull
I like the doom mechanic but more in a WoD raid kind of doom mechanic
mint herald
We all were new once. Don't let the experience blind your mind
half phoenix
Yes, but the VAST majority of mechanics are repeated
faint dagger
idk. i feel dying should have more punishment on your run besides 'take a damage down, do not pass Go'
half phoenix
And people refuse to do them
soft gyro
depends.
rain onyx
It’s a pretty hefty penalty, and it also gets worse for dying again soon after
And the duration also resets
untold gull
Mate, i still get hit by the stupidest mechanic. I'd rather not have another shit to deal with or another shit to force me to watch a video before doing a content 
half phoenix
Worse. The duration resets AFTER being ressed again
onyx sundial
I think thats enough of a punishment
mint herald
We want players to enjoy the game, not getting scared 🤣
gaunt star
I like to rule through fear
pastel coyote
That's why i love delubrum: it's not hard but you get doom after 1 or 2 hit
onyx sundial
Also having to res another person is already annoying enough
gaunt star
DR is easy
onyx sundial
Very annoying
half phoenix
Then remove all mechanics and just have every fight be a tank and spank? Pass
soft gyro
delubrum is easy if you can do the mecs correctly
onyx sundial
If people would bring essences
untold gull
Would be easier if i can see that first boss in its entirety on my screen
onyx sundial
Dr wouldnt be 40 mins per run
rain onyx
Then remove all mechanics and just have every fight be a tank and spank? Pass
Remove that straw from your man, please.
onyx sundial
gaunt star
As long as there’s no crazy lag like in my first run of dr each mechanic is 100% doable
soft gyro
If people would bring essences
we had a 0 healer party once, just brought cure iv, ez.
untold gull
I keep getting doom on that just because i keep missing half of its fucking swords
rain onyx
!action lost cure iv
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gaunt star
Zoom out
rain onyx
Savior+ Cure 4 is no joke
untold gull
I'm in aus playing in na just so you understand my plight
untold gull
Zoom out, like i don't already have it done
gaunt star
That’s why I don’t go in as healer
rain onyx
^
rain onyx
casually sits at top of DPS with Deep Profane + Noble Ends
onyx sundial
high swan
Every zone is on the moon
And the harsh lighting from the sun along with the moon's colour makes everything platinum
strange summit
And what about an eclipse ?
high swan
Oh shit
strange summit
I know that platinum isn't the first color we'll think about when we talk about an eclipse
But hey
Imagine the whole plot of 6.0 is to merge Hydaelyn and Zodiark as one
Thus requiring a huge eclipse
high swan
Imagine we got an out door zone on the moon. I hope we get to see the sun blaze down upon us and then total darkness otherwise
craggy gale
high swan
Well not total, but really dark
strange summit
Yeah, just like Berserk :D
strange summit
Imagine we got an out door zone on the moon. I hope we get to see the sun blaze ...
Some kind of "dark side of the moon" would be cool
And I'm expecting to see FuSoYa at some point
high swan
Yeah
strange summit
He's a Lunarian sage
high swan
I wonder if sage weapons will come from the moon or Sharlyan
Assuming old Sharyalan is in the expansion or mentioned
silent tusk
I am actually expecting the melee class to be Judge using hammers
strange summit
Sharlayan I think since it starts in Limsa and Alphinaud is the main user
high swan
Oh
obsidian pagoda
On the circular thing that was illustrated behind the title logo - now is it really the moon? Perhaps it might even be the planet Hydaelyn… and this is where I want players to enjoy the upcoming main story on Patch 5.5 and it would be good for players form various speculations at the same time.
It's possibly not the moon???
strange summit
omg, a full scale apocalypse
high swan
Or a cane. Hunters cane from Bloodborne
craggy gale
high swan
Noice
inner warren
@patent axle all I can tell you it's a a scythe wielding class and since it shares Dragoons Maiming Armor set that alone makes it obvious that the melee dps will in fact use a scythe in sense
kind lark
<@745767626609000519> all I can tell you it's a a scythe wielding class and sinc...
You can't really say it's a scythe tho. That's still iffy that this point
languid breach
I just had an incredibly weird dream that in 6.0 Alphinaud got possessed by Alexstrasza, who was for some reason a guy, and Alex's sister, J-something who was blue themed, tried to possess Alisaie but she remained in control. The entire expansion was basically a side story to defeat the two.
patent axle
Can't wait for it to not be a scythe at all
inner warren
And no I very seriously doubt judge magister job would even be added considering its practically already on ff14 in Bozjan but is relative and directly linked and apart of ff12
untold gull
Nothing is certain until it actually gets revealed
patent axle
Yeah but there will always be that guy who thinks their speculations are reality
inner warren
But either way we won't know anything till the fan festival but it's definately not necromancer no matter how much the bunch of you want it, it's never going to happen and it's not going to be a Judge Magister I guarantee that much
untold gull
I would seriously laugh if it's a judge
inner warren
Doubt it
untold gull
Eh, can't hurt to speculate
languid breach
Reaper would mark three weeb jobs
kind lark
Necro is iffy because of Japanese culture on death
languid breach
All melee
untold gull
How is a scythe makes a weeb job
patent axle
Hey at least we aren't shoving our speculations down other people's throat as if it was the truth
patent axle
It just sounds like something an edgy weeb would pick up
So does drk so does ninja so does black mage
So does any of the glasses in that game
inner warren
But considering his shirt had a grim reaper and the letter with the producer again grim reaper both points towards a scythe wielding class but as I said we won't know till reveal at fan festival
languid breach
You forgot samurai. Less edgy, still weeb. Black mage is more destructive than edgy tbh
inner warren
As for it being templar this is just my point of view it will never happen considering its bound to BioWares Dragon Age Series games
Though people are speculating that it's templar but I don't see it happening period for the very fact it's Dragon Age Series TM
inner warren
Play Dragon Age find your answer there
patent axle
Not interested
faint dagger
i highly doubt some game owns the rights to the word 'templar'
faint dagger
they didn't invent it https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Templar#:~:text=1 %3A a knight of a,2 %3A knight templar sense 2
the only thing I could say for that case is 'maybe they wouldn't want to use something that a somewhat related game has done in depth'
topaz verge
i mean templar is in bravely default
patent axle
They could always make a Templar and name it something else tbh
patent axle
i mean templar is in bravely default
Right
kind lark
The knights templar are very old
subtle pasture
The Crusades 'm pretty sure
patent axle
BuT dRaGoN aGe TrAdEmArK
inner warren
Um don't bring that up @kind lark and I can explain why in a personal chat
kind lark
Why?
patent axle
Bruh
subtle pasture
I think what would be trademarked is probably the Red Templars, if at all
inner warren
Personal chat it's not meant for here
patent axle
🤡
subtle pasture
For discussing the Knights Templar as an influence on, like, countless pieces of media by this day and age...?
inner warren
I will have to explain but not here
patent axle
Why not tho
inner warren
=_= meant to be a family secret
As in not related to anything ff14 wise like at all
kind lark
You do know google exist?
subtle pasture
Got our own Votyasch in our midst, I suppose
patent axle
family secret 
kind lark
If I wanted to know about the knights templar I could just research it
patent axle
Oh no we got an edgyboi creating himself a background
broken kettle
Oh shit the double blade thing would be dope
Can I also spend the whole fight charging my EX gauge ?
patent axle
Bruh
inner warren
Nope and I don't appreciate the disrespect
Both Pashtarot and Spacedout just pm only way I can explain
patent axle
inner warren
Leave this out of ff14 chat on speculation for 6.0
subtle pasture
Yeah let's not just start slinging insults around Kiyomi, anyhow, this started with claiming BW has Templar trademarked which is just simply not true,
patent axle
"It's a family secret but I'm willing to share it to some randoms online"
soft gyro
inb4 scytche is just a katana
subtle pasture
Else, 'm not even a fan of Templar as a job bc ain't that just dps PLD
...or melee WHM
soft gyro
nah, paladin is going to get nerfed
broken kettle
Polish saber job when
subtle pasture
nerfed
...i-it was overpowered?
patent axle
I want runeknight
soft gyro
since derplander is taking the job now, we gotta make it easier for casuals
subtle pasture
I guess there's also the possibility of Reaper but actually named Templar
Call it a Mhachi Templar in lore, checks out
subtle pasture
RDM and SAM are both "spell"blades 
subtle pasture
--well RDM being an actual spellblade and SAM being "spell"blade
yeah fair 'nough,
I wish I had a straight up gunner, not tinkertoys or ff8 fanfic
soft gyro
well, only if its enchanted blades
patent axle
Yeah but rdm's sword is just here for a few combos
patent axle
I really want a close combat mage with a sword
tiny pulsar
Merlwyb class when
subtle pasture
Corsair..... 
teal geyser
I really want a close combat mage with a sword
rune knight RIP the dream
soft gyro
I really want a close combat mage with a sword
a rdm?
subtle pasture
COR's top contender for 7.0 I suppose
subtle pasture
see y'all in 2 years 🏴☠️
sullen seal
inverse RDM
subtle pasture
rdm but an actual melee class
patent axle
It's mostly ranged
sullen seal
lotta melee, some casting
soft gyro
That's not close combat oh my god
close combat mage
patent axle
Inverse rdm
soft gyro
so, a paladin?
sullen seal
knight enchanter from Dragon Age
yeah thats the issue I have lol
it'd be DPS Paladin
teal geyser
I'd love inverse RDM
Honestly this was kinda what I wanted out of a gunblade job because I wanted it to be the Garlean style
patent axle
Enchanted weapon physical damage
subtle pasture
so Templar I guess 
sullen seal
which is exactly what I want lol
subtle pasture
"I don't care for Templar"
Me, after thinking on it for a couple minutes: "I'd be down for Templar"
tiny pulsar
I feel like they'd rather add completely different class concepts rather than just "x but DPS"
subtle pasture
But prob Rune Fencer/Mystic Knight really
teal geyser
I'd rather it'd be "rune knight" or something but I'll accept that kind of job being called "templar"
subtle pasture
imagine if they really do just smash it together and make a Rune Reaper, Dark Templar, or some such
teal geyser
imagine if they really do just smash it together and make a Rune Reaper, Dark Te...
Please no
I don't want that
subtle pasture
but imagine, runes on the scythe
teal geyser
I don't like that combo
sonic crystal
I think we are forgetting a melee dps from speculation. Beast Master. They were a melee, technically.
patent axle
Rune Knight please
subtle pasture
I'd love a "Dark Templar" or else Reaper as a Mhachi soldier for that dive of lore
teal geyser
I think we are forgetting a melee dps from speculation. Beast Master. They were ...
Limited job or get out
subtle pasture
else, yeah,
teal geyser
It's not even discussed
patent axle
I think we are forgetting a melee dps from speculation. Beast Master. They were ...
Can't work in the game
subtle pasture
It could but it'd have to heavily clip the identity of the classic BST
or, do the pet very carefully
teal geyser
I'd love a "Dark Templar" or else Reaper as a Mhachi soldier for that dive of lo...
I'd rather scythe job is just like Sice and then have rune knight 6 years from now
sonic crystal
You mean skill where he can use illusory animals with melee attacks or combos?
patent axle
I'd rather scythe job is just like Sice and then have rune knight 6 years from n...
I liked how sice played in Type-0
tiny pulsar
I remember someone making a sound theory of how Beast Master would work as a regular class, using the FFXVI trailer as a reference
teal geyser
patent axle
But my main squad will always be Ace, Queen and Rem
subtle pasture
So Spiritbeast/Shaman-esque, right?
teal geyser
Dude was broken
patent axle
I remember someone making a sound theory of how Beast Master would work as a reg...
Didn't know FFXVI was FFXIV
patent axle
no Tray Kiyomi?
Don't like his gameplay
teal geyser
Could be worse
subtle pasture
Nah Spiritbeast has been a tossed around idea for BST
teal geyser
could be Cinque
subtle pasture
I assume you mean how the weapons in XVI are essentially eikon stances
so it's beast channeling, in this context
sonic crystal
Inb4 Tellah is somehow in FFXIV this round.
teal geyser
I assume you mean how the weapons in XVI are essentially eikon stances
This is how Summoner should have worked, just going to say that for the 1000th time
patent axle
I have none of the qualities a heavy character can have and none of the qualities a light character can have
patent axle
Lol
subtle pasture
I like how the two camps for BST are "Limited" and "Cooler SMN"
well, 95% are the former, but still
patent axle
I like how the two camps for BST are "Limited" and "Cooler SMN"
Limited
patent axle
Viking would be so boring tbh
torn obsidian
Holy shit I missed the templar thing, rip
teal geyser
I'm up for another double weapon job but not now
patent axle
I wanted blue mage discourse, all I got was Templar discourse
sonic crystal
Might be yea... but still a suggestion to the fold as Viking.
torn obsidian
ｄｏｕｂｌｅ ｄａｇｇｅｒｓ
patent axle
We already have that dummy
subtle pasture
Corsair with a cutlass and off-hand pistol ofc
tiny pulsar
I like how the two camps for BST are "Limited" and "Cooler SMN"
I see no other ways to implement it given FFXIV combat Framework
cinder badger
Double Bubble
sonic crystal
Berserker maybe?
patent axle
Double claymore
sonic crystal
Or would that be more Tank style...
torn obsidian
shield turtle
subtle pasture
Gunshields, Rhitahtyn job
patent axle
Gunshields, Rhitahtyn job <:uWu:794552103577321512>
That's funny cause I'm currently enhancing a gunshield in FFBE
torn obsidian
finger gun class when
sonic crystal
Oh... Hell Knight/NetherSeer
tiny pulsar
Corsair job, with Emperor's New Gun
sonic crystal
Good old Tactics.
Ima just say it... Geomancer
It's a melee...
Always loved how it used the area it was in for it's skills.
torn obsidian
White Mage is a geomancer
sonic crystal
Not really. WHM and Geomancer are two different jobs. Plus... they lose Stone as they level.
Plus, Geomancer is melee. WHM uses staff.
cinder badger
I'm wondering if I should change my appearance a little
torn obsidian
sonic crystal
And I don't see a WHM casting a giant tidal wave on people 😛
Drown your enemies and all that
cinder badger
@torn obsidian the original Conjurer might as well have been geomancer
languid breach
That's because SE are cowards who don't let us cast giant tidal waves on people
subtle pasture
GEO is essentially Eastern CNJ, which would be nice as WHM loses its "natural" elements for Dia and Glare
But, similar enough it's doubtful 
sonic crystal
It would interesting if the melee was a Geomancer. Wonder how it would work in 14....
cinder badger
@subtle pasture I am talking about the original Conjurer
subtle pasture
Likewise for Onymoji as Eastern THM, but being truer to 1.0's THM than 2.0's
oh I was talkin' the loreside too
languid breach
The 60-70 AST quests literally revolve around geomancy
subtle pasture
with whats-his-face being styled as a CNJ
though Swallow's Compass does give the art more identity
sonic crystal
The quests do. The class does not. Though it would be kind of cool if the Geomancer had to talk to the AST people to learn stuff as well.
cinder badger
1.0 Conjurer used a wide range of elemental magics from each element.
sonic crystal
They could take from that if they put in Geo.
fleet geyser
yeah i thought ast storyline was basically them realizing that it's pretty much the same as geo
subtle pasture
It's how GEO would make the most sense as another branch of CNJ,
buuuut they're not touching branching jobs anymore, pats SCH
gaunt star
Geo isn’t happening now that blue mage has a Geomancy spell
fleet geyser
yeah there's a reason why there is only one branching job lol
subtle pasture
not any time soon, at least
fleet geyser
(the reason is because they realized it's HORRIBLE)
subtle pasture
What's the geomantic spell on BLU?
fleet geyser
also, i really hope beastmaster becomes a limited job like blu
sonic crystal
I mean if you consider Limited an actual job then sure. No Geomancer.
gaunt star
Malediction of water
subtle pasture
Oh, right, from those familiars in SC
teal geyser
It's how GEO would make the most sense as another branch of CNJ,
Who says Geomancers can't DPS?
gaunt star
I hope the next melee is a limited job so we can have a revolution against yoship!!
sonic crystal
I'm talking about actual jobs that go to the next level cap, can do current content.
fleet geyser
melee limited wouldn't be out of the question
subtle pasture
Didn't say they'd be a healer
teal geyser
You realise when they talked about the connection between geomancers and AST and conjurer it was just about how they draw their aether
fleet geyser
like i think one handed axe beastmaster would work
cinder badger
If I remember the original game also didn't adhere to the Holy Trinity
sonic crystal
Geomancer was a dps in the other games.
fleet geyser
or dual wielding 2 axes like the dota beastmaster
sonic crystal
It could heal but not well...
cinder badger
Conjurer could DPS just as much as they could heal
subtle pasture
Yeah but would the team put in the effort to flesh out that discipline to a whole 'nother job and story/lore?
cinder badger
Likewise thaumaturge was capable of healing but they had some weird-ass healing spells
gaunt star
WoW’s shaman and Druid classes are basically geomancers just copypaste
fleet geyser
cnj questline is also about a girl who refuses to DPS and suffers for it
subtle pasture
( and I'm sure they would, just not anytime soon)
cinder badger
@gaunt star druid is literally a druid
kind lark
Do your dps or you will die
fleet geyser
i think in german, cnj is actually druid
teal geyser
cnj questline is also about a girl who refuses to DPS and suffers for it
Well, technically no but that's the meme
sonic crystal
That sounds like a thing I would say as a healer.... "Do dps or no heals for you"
subtle pasture
GEO is presented as basically CNJ but used for divination, and ONY as basically THM but strictly polarities
--that said Eastern Magicks is still distinct enough I'd still ove them as jobs in the future
teal geyser
GEO is presented as basically CNJ but used for divination
glares at Swallow's Compass
Uh huh.....
subtle pasture
well, it was in AST, then we got SC
Modern GEO I should say, since SC is long abandoned, but gotta give 'em points for longevity
teal geyser
Hey now
Wouldn't go that far
Just because we see someone do X with an art doesn't mean that's the only thing the art can do
torn obsidian
What if geo was a second CNJ job
teal geyser
Especially given we see it elsewhere no matter how old that place is
cinder badger
@torn obsidian they won't do that again
teal geyser
Stop saying conjurer branch 
subtle pasture
No yeah, I mean in Hingashi when we come in, GEO is a shell of its former self and mostly used by hacks extorting noble houses,
with whatshisface one of the last true good GEO's
teal geyser
with whatshisface one of the last true good GEO's
yes
cinder badger
They are done with classes all together. Other than the ones that are already linked to classes jobs will be their own thing until the end of time
torn obsidian
<@180100945361764352> they won't do that again
They ought to do more of it
subtle pasture
I started thinkin' how if we got another Hingan job, how easily it'd be PUP
cinder badger
@torn obsidian no because of how messed up scholar and Summoner turned out from the very start
subtle pasture
or whatever the term is for an eastern automaton maker
torn obsidian
What's wrong with Summoner?
subtle pasture
tbh SMN was fine-- well, it was okay
torn obsidian
My wife's playing towards it so better to hear it now then afterwards
subtle pasture
they had a lot of issues balancing SCH bc of its ACN carryover
cinder badger
It took them four expansions to get Summoner to a place they wanted to go
tiny pulsar
Puppeteer with Calcabrina weapons, that sounds Nightmare Fuel
urban turret
tbh Puppeteer in general would be sick
cinder badger
No more pets
urban turret
fool
subtle pasture
nonsense, the pet is the weapon, easy.
urban turret
I want to make MAMMETS
somber storm
urban turret
also they're doing beastmaster at some point. they just are
silk dragon
im guessing Beastmaster would be a limted job ease the pain on yoshi-p
subtle pasture
but what I mean is, a difference between pet jobs, and a job animated and stylized for the weapon or some such to look like another entity
urban turret
oh yeah 100%
subtle pasture
AST kinda does it with the floating globe
urban turret
tbh they should just make Mime a Limited Job. let me dab on everyone who doesn't have every class at max
silk dragon
i wasnt kidding on BST working as a limted Job
subtle pasture
yeah 'm mostly arguing for PUP since the doll could be streamlined to, perhaps, the weapon itself.
BST needs that multiple pet identity so, not that
urban turret
BST could be a limited job, it'd be alot but like it'd be cool
silk dragon
i loved PUP in XI but due to a lack of branching Jobs
too bad PUG cant be the base for PUP
urban turret
Puppetmaster i want.... let me make make mammets
fleet geyser
they literally said when they made BLU a limited job that beastmaster would be another likely candidate for a limited job
silk dragon
so Blu was just a test ?
fleet geyser
and i think they made further hints as it went on about limited bst
blu on launch was horrible
cinder badger
If they decide to do another limited job it's based on the overall success of blue mage
tropic frigate
pet battles will be its special instance
fleet geyser
although it has improved a lot
kind lark
Get your popcorn when they add Beastmaster as a limited job
torn obsidian
Black Waltz career when
cinder badger
Oh people are still angry that blue Mage is a limited job
fleet geyser
blu stuff is now among my favorite content in the game
cinder badger
It's never going to end
fleet geyser
so i hope bst is limited too
tropic frigate
i mean if the job was your favorite in a game
urban turret
it would HAVE to be
fleet geyser
also seems that the recent blue mage update brought in a lot more first time blus
tropic frigate
you'd probably still be disappointed and or mad
gaunt star
Blue mage is a joke
urban turret
Beastmaster would have to be limited because it's built in a way that doesn't WORK as a regular job
gaunt star
I got bored of casting Tsukyomi’s spell after 3 days
fleet geyser
vastly prefer over it being just another dps
cinder badger
@fleet geyser imagine if it was a completely different job that did not do the things that blue mages do but it was still called Blue mage
silk dragon
so hows this for a BST lore idea the soulstone lets the user talk to the animals
fleet geyser
cant we already talk to animals?
urban turret
not really
torn obsidian
Tfw no cigarette mount
urban turret
unless they got a soul
fleet geyser
oh just animals with a soul
gaunt star
We already talk to lalafells which are animals enough
urban turret
racism
gaunt star
It takes a truly special soul to be able to communicate with a literal potato
silk dragon
so would BLU worked better as a Tank as a way to justfy to learn spells
urban turret
RACISM
gaunt star
Wait till you hear what I have to say about Hrothgar’s!!
tropic frigate
so its blue mage but they give all the skills in something that would be like pvp which is seperated?
silk dragon
cant we already talk to animals?
i meant Doolittle style like the animals we fight all the time
torn obsidian
When's the miqo'te primal showing up?
silk dragon
i meant as a non limted job type tank
fleet geyser
role specific boss attacks being randomized vs blue mage does make it kinda messy
i would probably hate being forced to play tank blu
although i already have to tank almost always as a BLU cuz others dont wanna do it lol
but having the option to be healer or dps or going solo is neat
silk dragon
it woluld justfy how blus learn spells
gaunt star
Should have just put out a set of rotation spells in the overworld and left it as a normal caster
fleet geyser
they could have made it a normal dps and had all the job quests be about fighting a specific monster to get the spell
but i like having a large spell book
tropic frigate
its its just added onto blu while still being limited on the other side it just works
gaunt star
As it stands now I have no reason to touch blue mage beyond the first two days of the patch. Allied seals are useless and I have other ways to get poetics
vapid hull
having to cast the enmity shit makes blue mage tank terrible
gaunt star
Flash was removed for a reason
fleet geyser
you dont really have to anymore after they doubled dps for blu tanks
cinder badger
@gaunt star but it can be involved in clan centurio hunts now?
fleet geyser
diamond back will forever make blu tanking feel awkward though
urban turret
Limited Jobs are great yall just are boring
silk dragon
so about my BST lore idea
cinder badger
People are just trying really really really hard to continue to complain about something that has seen success
gaunt star
<@456226577798135808> but it can be involved in clan centurio hunts now?
I literally could not care less about hunts
fleet geyser
other than blue mage and beastmaster, dont really know what else would work
urban turret
tbh just a little mad that BLUreka isn't possible
fleet geyser
puppeteer kinda thing?
urban turret
Limited Job ideas buzzing around after BLU:
Beastmaster, Puppetmaster, Mime
cinder badger
They didn't want it to succeed they pretty much don't want the game to succeed unless it's by their standards so they'll continue to bitch until the end of time
fleet geyser
is mime that different from blu?
silk dragon
even though talking to the animals would be for cutscenes only during quests
gaunt star
Blue mage is a failure of distastrifc proportions
urban turret
is mime that different from blu?
Mime is using other abilities you learned in one class. not monster abilities.
gaunt star
So called “op” job banned from literally everything except fates
cinder badger
@gaunt star yep that's why they continue to add new content for it and people continue to play it
fleet geyser
ah what we had in the past but got removed
gaunt star
For 2 days
kind lark
I can only see beastmaster a limited job but people will still be sad about it
patent axle
BLUE MAGE DISCOURSE
fleet geyser
blue mage extremes and savages are fun as hell
patent axle
gaunt star
Blue mage couldn’t keep me entertained for more than 2 days but sure please defend it
urban turret
wow can't believe no one has ever run a blu savage
gaunt star
Eventually people will defend limited content till the whole game becomes a limited game and then another mmo will replace FFXIV
urban turret
if you think BLU is useless then by that logic ALL HIGH LEVEL CONTENT is useless
gaunt star
Tís the cycle of life
tropic frigate
Mime is using other abilities you learned in one class. not monster abilities.
wait so GEO isnt a job? :^)
gaunt star
High level content gives mounts, furnishings, and relic weapons
patent axle
gaunt star
Blue mage gives you a tentacle monster model from 2010
fleet geyser
blue mage gives you satisfaction
gaunt star
I think I deserve better for myself
languid breach
Blue mage couldn’t keep me entertained for more than 2 days but sure please defe...
Translation: This particular content did not click with me and therefore it unquestionably sucks
patent axle
If you don't like it don't play it 4head
fleet geyser
it's like playing a challenging game just for the challenge and feeling of beating it
obviously i would have liked if the cerberus mount was the BLU reward instead
but oh well
patent axle
It's side content that is here for people who want to do it
gaunt star
Wow it’s almost as if in a game starved for battle content as Shb as a whole is blue mage maybe shouldn’t have been the thing to push
urban turret
can't believe no one plays ultimates because they just give you a stupid glowy weapon
gaunt star
Less than 1% of the player base is legitimately into ultimate
urban turret
wow can't believe no one has run a savage ever
fleet geyser
Less than 1% of the player base is legitimately into ultimate
do you want them to remove ultimates then?
urban turret
i don't play savage, must mean no one likes it and it's useless
gaunt star
do you want them to remove ultimates then?
Yes, in fact
languid breach
I would love to do Ultimates, but I'm self aware enough to know I'm genuinely not at that level of skill, and just the thought of sitting through a 15-20 minute fight mentally exhausts me
patent axle
Yikes
tropic frigate
is the clearing of savage going off all registered players or just active?
patent axle
Sally is the exact example of what I said earlier
fleet geyser
i wanna do ultimates eventually
urban turret
tbh i legit don't do savage, but like... it should still be there.
fleet geyser
but finding a static is too painful
languid breach
Oh lmao, Kiyomi I thought you're noobshaming me
fleet geyser
savage clear rates are usually around 10% i believe?
patent axle
Oh lmao, Kiyomi I thought you're noobshaming me
I'm not noobshaming anyone
gaunt star
Im excited for when they announce dragonsong war is delayed even further to 6.3!!
fleet geyser
and during 5.3 it was around 20% because the next patches were super delayed so people needed to find new content they hadnt tried before
gaunt star
Meanwhile im gonna be chilling in my island 🏝
torn obsidian
The slippery slopes in here are dank
patent axle
Good, stay in your island
fleet geyser
basically sally thinks the game should be made just for them lul
patent axle
And never come out of it ever again
torn obsidian
Masterful trolling
gaunt star
Yes, that’s the master plan 😎
urban turret
tbh i am excited for the island but like. i like Limited Jobs as a thing
gaunt star
Now if only we could get player run salons that would be neat
Fire jandelain or whoever his name is
fleet geyser
well to be fair, i think they should also just cater to my tastes but at least i know having a variety of content lets you keep a variety of players
oh well
languid breach
I'm so excited for island sanctuary. I hope it will let people decorate their house like a real house. Everyone having access to gardening only mats would fuck the MB up tho
patent axle
Masterful trolling
Having seen their shitty takes multiple times, it's not trolling
gaunt star
I want to be able to customize who does my hair
torn obsidian
Are we getting instanced homes
fleet geyser
but yeah, island sanctuary sounds dope meming aside
gaunt star
Never never never!!
craggy gale
trying to cut rune factory 5 
languid breach
I hope it won't be the new garrisons tho
fleet geyser
i loved rune factory so much
gaunt star
You’re going to get island farming savage
silk dragon
so hows this for a BST quest staring point in the shroud where you have to find a NPC who claims he or she can talk to the beasts
patent axle
I'm so excited for island sanctuary. I hope it will let people decorate their ho...
I'm so excited for island sanctuary, the degenerates will finally leave limsa and give it back to normal people
urban turret
ideal for island sanctuary is letting me get let all my minions run wild
gaunt star
You’ll have to compete against me and the bot clickers for an island
fleet geyser
they already said it's instanced solo content
gaunt star
But this is a social game!!
fleet geyser
and said they want to keep player interaction to an absolute minimum for it
torn obsidian
I already have a nice Stardew Valley save with my wife
fleet geyser
but yeah, i wonder what they meant when they said we would get to raise animals
also, i got my house during housing (easy) last month
urban turret
let me set my minion collection free into the island....
gaunt star
It means I’m going to raise chocobos to turn them into steak for culinarian
languid breach
I really hope there'll be some genuinely hard optional content in island sanctuary, like "breed the biggest pumpkin for a pumpkin mount" or "make an expert cheese factory"
I love micromanaging stuff like this.
fleet geyser
yeah i'm excited for it
urban turret
tbh i just want to make a place for all my minions i feel bad about not using to run around...
i have 205 minions and i only use 1....
anyway
i'm going back to limited Jobs
languid breach
I hope there'll be another limited job, because BST/BLU solidarity sounds wonderful, but just thinking about the amount of work SE would have to put in makes me go yikes
torn obsidian
The only minion worth using is the goobbue
urban turret
one thing i think would be sick would be Mime as a limited job, which would just be "level all your jobs or perish"
gaunt star
The four 3D modelers they have working must be panicking at the thought of having to make pets for beastmaster
Can you imagine the stress
languid breach
one thing i think would be sick would be Mime as a limited job, which would just...
That job is called Amaro
fleet geyser
The four 3D modelers they have working must be panicking at the thought of havin...
if you think we're not just getting the same enemies we've been fighting, you're crazy lol
gaunt star
Actually you know what would be more equal, give Beastmaster minion pets to keep them the same quality as smn egis
For the sake of balance
fleet geyser
i assume it's gonna be like blue mage, but istead of filling a spellbook with spells, you're filling out a pet log with monsters you fight and befriend
languid breach
Also questlines, story, gear, achievements, achievement rewards, animations, and BLU compatibility
tiny pulsar
Boycotting BST if they don't let us pet our beasts on release
gaunt star
I don’t like how there is canon animal abuse in the blue mage storyline at the carnival. I hope they do away with this in 6.0
urban turret
Boycotting BST if they don't let us pet our beasts on release
if they specifically ban the /pet emote for them, that would be kinda wild
fleet geyser
with how there is a dungeon full of child sex slaves, probably not
languid breach
Yeah, let's do away with the animal abuse! Replace all beasts with small children.
fleet geyser
you can pet eos so you should be able to pet bst mobs
torn obsidian
You should be able to dye Harlequin boots
tiny pulsar
I want them to react to /pet, and get a buff and all
urban turret
but yeah tbh i stand by Mime would be cool as a limited job.
torn obsidian
It should debuff if you don't pet it
languid breach
Mime? Like a sort of job that mimicks the aether of creatures they defeat, and use the techniques they use? Yeah that could be an interesting concept.
fleet geyser
nah mime like a job that takes skills from other jobs
somber storm
Looks at BLU
fleet geyser
like in older versions of ffxiv
torn obsidian
A whole party of smeargles
tiny pulsar
"It has been 10 minutes since you last pet your dog, it is now depressed"
somber storm
Nintendogs
fleet geyser
isn't that how it worked in wow?
fallen girder
Bst but you let out all your pets at once
fleet geyser
with pets becoming sad and even leaving you?
somber storm
Losing minions
torn obsidian
If the goobbue goes I'm leaving this mortal coil with it
torn obsidian
@patent axle but then who will mentor me?
somber storm
Yourself
fallen girder
craggy gale
want a clown job
somber storm
Become the mentor
fallen girder
want a clown job
But rdm already exists
craggy gale
torn obsidian
want a clown job
I already RDM
craggy gale
Balloonga
torn obsidian
Minerva fight from CCFF7 when
urban turret
i just think Mime would be sick. let me use 20 random different skills from different classes in a row with negitive synergy
torn obsidian
Do I have to do something special to play BLU? I'm only a week in
cinder badger
Learn your spells from Monsters
lusty shadowBOT
fallen girder
If you'd like
gaunt star
Blue mage is unlocked at level 50
torn obsidian
To unlock the class, I meant
languid breach
Do I have to do something special to play BLU? I'm only a week in
Have a lv80 SCH/AST friend to boost you
fallen girder
Ah just be lv 50
fallen girder
Dont even need the expansion to unlock it afaik
torn obsidian
Oh, cool that was easy
torn obsidian
Ligma Lominsa
fallen girder
What's lominsa
torn obsidian
Lick my balls
fallen girder
👀
👅
gaunt star
They have to balance out the jobs in the cities
SB had both in uldah
I imagine EW will be split between gridania and limsa again
fallen girder
Morbol mount tho
torn obsidian
I just want the cigarette mount
patent axle
Morbol mount tho
2010 model
Stinky poopoo
Imagine running old ass content just to get a 2010 model
fallen girder
patent axle
They should focus on housing instead of blu and ultimates
Just remove high end content no-one plays it
fallen girder
I agree
patent axle
Die
fallen girder
Just have 3 raids per tier and add an extra dungeon per expac instead
torn obsidian
Mfw finished BLU cheavos
fallen girder
Much more people do dungeoms than raid
gaunt star
At the end of the day that’s reality
gaunt star
At my busiest I can easily do a roulette per day but a raid is kind of out of my reach
torn obsidian
Normalize casual dungeons as endgame
gaunt star
That or deep dungeon because you get the occasional surprise there
patent axle
Give all the savage raid gear to casual players without an effort
They deserve it because they are a gift to the world
torn obsidian
I keep this game alive!
kind lark
I keep this game alive!
Keep it up, you legend
patent axle
Yeah!!!! I keep this game alive with my fantasia addiction!!!!
Thank me for buying 10 fantasia a day
torn obsidian
When do I meet the Disney characters btw
patent axle
I fund the expansions!!!!
patent axle
When do I meet the Disney characters btw
Never and that's a good thing
No KH allowed on FFXIV
fleet geyser
Thank me for buying 10 fantasia a day
thanks for keeping the game free to pla- wait
torn obsidian
First they get rid of Nomura's belts, and now they're banning his lifeblood
gaunt star
Next expansion’s 24 man will be the KH raid series!!
patent axle
Nomura can rot in hell
gaunt star
Featuring destiny islands, twilight town, and castle oblivion
patent axle
Nomura : **creates something **
fleet geyser
i think they actually specifically deconfirmed kh stuff appearing in ffxiv because of disney's overprotectiveness
it's like one of the hardest collabs to land
fleet geyser
rip all keyblade fanboys
gaunt star
Disney thinking imma pay for Disney plus like their movies aren’t on Russian torrent sites
patent axle
Nomura, a few days later : **completely forgot how the stuff he created works and decides to rewrite it in the sequels even if it enters in contradiction with the previous game **
kind lark
All hail our overlord mouse. All hail our overlord mouse
torn obsidian
public trackers
Lol
patent axle
i think they actually specifically deconfirmed kh stuff appearing in ffxiv becau...
Tbh it's a good thing
tropic frigate
but if it do we could get soken touching them tracks
kind lark
Disney is going to buy sqex and force yoshi p to add disney characters
torn obsidian
Donald Duck has done more for Final Fantasy than Cloud ever could
tiny pulsar
EW space ship is actually a Gummi Ship
torn obsidian
EW space ship is actually a Gummi Ship
cinder badger
Not sure how to set up my blue magic skills on a crossbar I'm kind of all over the place
I'm also only level 60
torn obsidian
Very carefully
kind lark
Not sure how to set up my blue magic skills on a crossbar I'm kind of all over t...
run botton on every botton
gaunt star
Tsukyomi spell on every button and when it’s on cool down just do nothing
cinder badger
Questions and help isn't going to help me since blue Mage is unpredictable and everybody has their own way of setting it up
fleet geyser
there is a decent amount of "always pick these" spells for every role of blu
cinder badger
I was more thinking aloud and then conveying it on chat
Well yeah I know like mimicry
torn obsidian
patent axle
Please do not mention savages near me I will consider it as an attack btw
cinder badger
It's one of my favorite spells
kind lark
The best campfire maker
patent axle
And I will call a mod
fallen girder
Savage more like babymode
torn obsidian
The best campfire maker
patent axle
@fallen girder please ban @fallen girder for mentioning savages
fallen girder
! Ban sophie
patent axle
I feel oppressed
patent axle
I should be able to go on a Discord without seing the mention of high end content!!!!!!!!!!!!
kind lark
Oh varg
urban turret
Tbh you know what’d be funny but also objectively horrible
patent axle
Making high end content mandatory for story
fallen girder
The new ultimate being delayed to 6.3 and no time for a 2nd one?
patent axle
That would be very funny and also horrible
urban turret
Adding Beastmaster and putting beastmen mobs into their beast list.
patent axle
But extremely funny
urban turret
Both of those also yes
fallen girder
Can i use dwarves
fleet geyser
pet dwarf pog
patent axle
I would lose it to seing people who don't like it being forced to go thru it
urban turret
There aren’t really enemy dwarves just running around
fleet geyser
can i take the healer role quest dwarf with me since it's technically my belonging then?
fallen girder
Finders keepers
patent axle
And seing hard-core players losing it over people who are clearly not willing to do it
Amazing it would be
fleet geyser
i've already seen some complains from seat of sacrifice normal being too hard lol
fleet geyser
yes
although tbh i've been pretty happy with normal mode trial difficulty in shb
felt more challenging than previous normals
fallen girder
I timed out in my first party there
urban turret
Hey opinions: what mob would YOU want as a pet if there was Beastmaster
fleet geyser
my first time doing titania normal our party failed the dps check TWICE
fallen girder
Did it in one pull in a new pt
patent axle
Anyway imma farm stuff on dragalia lost I better see y'all worshipping me for funding the game with my fantasia addiction when I'm back
patent axle
Hey opinions: what mob would YOU want as a pet if there was Beastmaster
Nidhogg
fallen girder
I want to be someones pet
urban turret
You know. Somehow I feel like Beastmaster wouldn’t have pet dragons,
patent axle
I'm saving my wyrmite for Marf rerun
fleet geyser
intelligent creatures as pets would be weird
patent axle
And Chrom too
pulsar yacht
i've already seen some complains from seat of sacrifice normal being too hard lo...
the trial itself is whatever the real difficulty is the bullshit button mash QTE
patent axle
Yeah that's why I didn't spend since the last FE banner
I have around 100k wyrmite
I can pity 3 FE characters lol
fleet geyser
i always wonder how many people still click on the button, instead of just mashing their keyboard during those QTEs
patent axle
Who knows maybe this year's collab will have cool stuff like
fleet geyser
because they dont know pressing any button works
patent axle
Just spam 0 and you win
tropic frigate
like why wasnt it called the final chapter or something?
fleet geyser
we're getting a nier raid in the next big patch
patent axle
the nier thing wasnt on its last chapter
I think they said there was more story stuff after the raid
tropic frigate
and they havent told us what the trials were have they?
fleet geyser
or what do you mean?
well yeah we dont know what we're getting in the third nier raid
no nier spoilers pls
patent axle
After this yoko taro will reset the FFXIV servers
tropic frigate
that was the biggest spoiler
fleet geyser
i wish i had my emotes from others servers here feelsbadman
fallen girder
patent axle
kind lark
whats nitro?
fleet geyser
you use it to make your car go faster
fallen girder
Discord but premium
patent axle
fallen girder
I need nitro to be a good egirl
kind lark
you use it to make your car go faster
Like the burnout series?
fallen girder
fallen girder
Nice
kind lark
both good tbh
patent axle
😔
fallen girder
Can only use it once, i tried using a friends code
fallen girder
fallen girder
Gotta buy a full year for the discount
fallen girder
Cuz my life situation won't improve to the point where i stop using discord in the coming year
fleet geyser
good luck
patent axle
Wait first imma do my free pull in Opera Omnia
fallen girder
Gl
patent axle
Oh nvm I did it
cinder badger
All right I got my blue Mage set up it's time to start leveling
First though I need to find a Healer
fleet geyser
if you're on chaos i dont mind helping
nevermind it says right there in your tags that you're not
cinder badger
I just need to copy healing stance
fleet geyser
oh i thought you needed someone to level you from 1
cinder badger
No no I'm level 60
Unless I decide to play Blue Mage on one of my alts
It's a shame I can't show off this outfit though
Since I'm planning on a PlayStation 4 and can't exactly send screenshots to people
patent axle
You can
I thought you could save screenchots on your console ???
And then transfer them to another device
cinder badger
I'm going to ul'dah
torn obsidian
patent axle
oh no
this is where I started
horny all over
not as bad as limsa
but it is bad
torn obsidian
Just take a photo with your phone and post it
kind lark
Won't the ! me command work?
cinder badger
Hooray for Gobskin
I just switched jobs though it takes a while for lodestone to process that
fallen girder
!me is disabled in the general channels
lusty shadowBOT
fallen girder
Oh not here i guess
cinder badger
!me
lusty shadowBOT
wind cedar
A shocking number of people can't remember who they are.
cinder badger
Oh I never saved my character here
wind cedar
Please donate now to help these victims today
torn obsidian
!me
lusty shadowBOT
cinder badger
!iam <Balmung> <Yayayo> <Yayo>
torn obsidian
Lol
lusty shadowBOT
patent axle
!iam server your name your surname
lusty shadowBOT
fallen girder
#kupo-bot-spam
lusty shadowBOT
cinder badger
Oh so without the arrows
cinder badger
!me
lusty shadowBOT
patent axle
bruh
cinder badger
See it hasn't saved my blue Mage outfit yet
kind lark
The tiny people
cinder badger
You couldn't tell by the name that I was lalafell?
kind lark
true
patent axle
See it hasn't saved my blue Mage outfit yet
yeah because mogstation loads your infos once every 7 hours
I think I'm currently a thot ninja because I forgot to apply my glam
😔
cinder badger
Anyways where should I start leveling
torn obsidian
On a new character
wind cedar
For Blue Mage?
cinder badger
On my level 60 blue mage
strange wing
Start/find a grind party in the lochs
wind cedar
Fastest way is The Lochs with another player killing the mobs you target.
Or, if you're solo, find mobs your level and kill them
torn obsidian
Please post this in #retired-patch-6-3-discussion where it belongs
wind cedar
And or a few levels higher
cinder badger
The fringes
wind cedar
Yeah, lol
I came here for rage-fueled speculation on why four AI controlled guns for healing is a bad idea
patent axle
#questions-and-help : am i a joke to you?
cinder badger
what are some key spells I should be learning
patent axle
thats a meme, not 6.0 speculation
torn obsidian
If I was happy I'd be asleep
cinder badger
But if I post it there won't they say it's spoilers?
patent axle
i'm just sitting here while waiting for dragalia lost to get me a kai yian master room
torn obsidian
Here's my speculation for 6.0
night talon
Is sonic the new dps
eager fox
yes
night talon
Finally
cinder badger
I have a friend who wants to hear absolutely nothing about the live letters or the Showcase or anything regarding 6.0
urban turret
Speculation: I think that 6.x will finally give a new limited job.
cinder badger
They want to go into it completely blind
patent axle
speculation :
torn obsidian
I want to go competely blind as well
patent axle
jage
cinder badger
Does anybody here know Kari Quinn?
urban turret
Also: I think the melee Dps should have a whip because I want it to.
torn obsidian
It's why I eat lead paint chips
patent axle
i want a dps that uses cards
teal geyser
I have a friend who wants to hear absolutely nothing about the live letters or t...
I like to go in blind but you gotta to do stuff like fanfests, I basically drop out when it comes to stuff like the gameplay trailer and stuff a lot closer to launch
patent axle
like Ace and Setzer
night talon
I'd love role actions to have class specific animations
patent axle
the only time I did a game blind it was ACNH
and i'm loving it
Orience alliance raid for 6.0 please
night talon
Rampart = shadow wall = whatever warrior had
torn obsidian
I want a class that inflates every time it casts a spell haha
Wouldn't that be great haha
cinder badger
Just imagine when 6.0 comes out blue mages will get to go to the first
night talon
Balloon mage
torn obsidian
@night talon you said it haha
balmy mesa
They want to go into it completely blind
that's where you encourage her to dive into alcoholism so she approaches FFXIV blind
(doctor's note: this is not recommended, do at your own risk)
(seriously don't)
night talon
Oh no
cinder badger
Oh my God I keep using protean weave on the mob and he just never touches me
torn obsidian
Just drink ethanol
night talon
The new 6.0 raid food
kindred rampart
don't tell SE
here's the next job reveal
balmy mesa
Oh lord
fleet geyser
if it's reaper they might call it shinigami in jp
balmy mesa
If I edged any harder...
balmy mesa
please, sir, this is a Wendy's
night talon
not getting hyped for 6.0 monk
torn obsidian
please, sir, this is a Wendy's
balmy mesa
torn obsidian
Can someone PLEASE EXPLAIN to ME how the fuck KING CRIMSON WORKS PLEASE I'm crying: The Raid
balmy mesa
what if we turn into toilet paper for the raids
kind lark
I want to wipe on Wonder of U for months
The spin will be our weapon!
night talon
As long as the raid boss is vauthry
torn obsidian
JoJo Raid but it's the second half of the novel Jorge Joestar
night talon
The spin will be our weapon!
Oh God oh fuck help I'm trying to shoot an 89 year old man but he just threw a sushi rolling mat at us
gaunt star
Can someone PLEASE EXPLAIN to ME how the fuck KING CRIMSON WORKS PLEASE I'm cryi...
Speak with other players and share information to discover how to proceed!
torn obsidian
Tell him to eat shit, Johnny
balmy mesa
What if Dio shows up?
kindred rampart
Can someone PLEASE EXPLAIN to ME how the fuck KING CRIMSON WORKS PLEASE I'm cryi...
imagine rolling on gear for that
night talon
Thsts inevitable
balmy mesa
we'd have to do the appropriate actions beforehand
torn obsidian
@balmy mesa Jotaro's gonna need your mom's credit card number
night talon
imagine rolling on gear for that
Metrosexual Gangstar chestpiece of Casting
kind lark
Oh God oh fuck help I'm trying to shoot an 89 year old man but he just threw a s...
Ohhhh fuck a airplane door is flying towards me aaaaaaaaahhh
torn obsidian
Ladybug brooches when
balmy mesa
<@114890923166531594> Jotaro's gonna need your mom's credit card number
He can go fucking get it from Josuke
night talon
Blue mage gets the ability to skip time on a 60 second cooldown
urban turret
You know. The more I think I’m it. The more 100% convinced I am that we’re going to sharleyan
torn obsidian
We're going to Egypt
balmy mesa
You know. The more I think I’m it. The more 100% convinced I am that we’re going...
Old or new?
urban turret
Old, we already went to new
balmy mesa
Ye
night talon
New sharlayan is the hinterlands
urban turret
That’s called the hinterlands
fallen girder
But we already going to thavnair empire and moon
urban turret
And idlyshire
urban turret
But we already going to thavnair empire and moon
Yeah and
balmy mesa
Exactly, I just wanted to clarify 
urban turret
Wide geographic focus wasn’t Stormblood’s issue tbh,
torn obsidian
I think this is going to be the new update
balmy mesa
I think sharlayan is key to visiting the moon - garlemald is actually early on
urban turret
I think Sharlyean will be our large city
night talon
Isnt it radz at han
gaunt star
Garlemald is likely zone 2 with Thavnair being zone 1
fallen girder
Mooncity will be the large city