Ohhh here is a thought.....are they gonna retire Derplander for the CGI and trailers after this? Or is derpy gonna stay
#retired-patch-6-3-discussion
barren karma
floral aurora
Will Hydalen still be us or will she be gone after 6.0
still valve
@twilit shale I scoured the image for clues and did not see that at all 😓
twilit shale
:)
weary quiver
zodiark in the art
mossy iron
'heeeeep'
austere bear
hydaelyn will you let me out? the world's on fire
twilit shale
hydaelyn is mother dragon
fleet geyser
we're gonna use a porxie the size of the moon to destroy hydaelyn's tempering
and then squad up with zoddy
floral aurora
Curious if Anima is the final transformation of Zodiark xD
fleet geyser
i like to think the echo prevents tempering because you are already tempered
but iirc it's some ascian thing ,right?
floral aurora
Real curious how Anima plays in this
dawn flax
we are going to absorb zodiarc into ourselves, then defeat and absorb hydaelyn, and WE will become the one true god.
fleet geyser
i forgot the explanation in shb
austere bear
and it will be spent
still valve
Zodiark does sort of look like he’s in the pose of anima in that drawing
floral aurora
Zodiark does sort of look like he’s in the pose of anima in that drawing
I was getting ff4 end game vibes
mossy iron
Ifrit says he can't temper us because we belong to someone else already
austere bear
the blessing isn't tempering
dawn flax
being the Warrior of Light/Darkness we are, we will then dissipate ourselves into the aether, and people will live in harmony until Kefka escapes Sigmascape and destroys the world.
hasty totem
I’ll just leave some predictions here - Hydaelyn and Zodiark as the final boss of 6.0. Not either. A pair
austere bear
also i dont think we being ascians was a plot point at that time
twilit shale
Curious if Anima is the final transformation of Zodiark xD
Isn't he? I mean, anima had some glowing mouth thing happening. Zodiark is clearly doing the same in this pic
trim linden
unlikely
fleet geyser
i thought shb was setting her up as not what she seems
dawn flax
because of what happened in the first
austere bear
hmm
keen sentinel
I think us yeeting Zodiark might accidentally Hyd
floral aurora
Isn't he? I mean, anima had some glowing mouth thing happening. Zodiark is clear...
I'm just guessing because in FF4 final fight, the boss transformed into a terrifying monster. I'm hoping we get something like that with Zodiark xD
austere bear
what if zenos absorbs hydaelyn
trim linden
I can think of another
fleet geyser
i was pretty certain zodiark was gonna be the final boss and hydaelyn the 6.3 boss until they said the arc will wrap up in 6.0
austere bear
thats the only way i can see that fight with her happen
trim linden
zodiark absorbing rhe unsundered
mossy iron
They talk about balance a lot
floral aurora
I wonder how long will 6.0 be compared to 5.0
dawn flax
needing balance
BALANCE MUST BE PURGED
fleet geyser
wait wasn't the echo a thing that everyone has access to, but hydaelyn just takes it away?
trim linden
one of gthe convocation is thge heatht or hydelyn
fleet geyser
instead of giving it
trim linden
and one the heart of zodiark
austere bear
i like how zodiark look like obelisk the tormenter
keen sentinel
The blessing is seperate from the echo
trim linden
the two may merge
keen sentinel
Echo is soemthing that can get triggered in just about anyone
mossy iron
The reason for the Calamities is because the balance is so far out of whack on various shards
trim linden
otherwise what are we
half phoenix
No. The convocation has literally nothing to do with Hydaelyn
mossy iron
That they get drawn to the source to balance out again
keen sentinel
Hyd was a separate groups work right?
austere bear
the dissidents are the one who summoned hydaelyn
mossy iron
Yeah
trim linden
hi rakarrak I take it you slept through shadowbrinbgers?
austere bear
however again my theory is that hydaelyn might free zodiark cause of the circumstances being the end of the world
fleet geyser
hydaelyn was summoned by enemies of the ascians that summoned zodiark to kick him in the nuts so hard that he went KO
austere bear
after all she's still his jailer
keen sentinel
She kicked his nuts so hard the world literally shattered
half phoenix
Even Azem, the 14th seat who was against the Zodiark plan, was against the Hydaelyn plan
keen sentinel
Azem probably thought sacrificing more lives was just all around a bad idea.
austere bear
im sure we going to find out in 6.0
dawn flax
idk maybe people just like kicking others in the nuts
austere bear
i believe we going to see more emet in 6.0 also
fleet geyser
anyway, shb set up so many suspicions about hydaelyn that i cant believe we're not going up against her at some point
trim linden
I think Venat is the Amaurotine that Emet-Selch recognized in us. Note he said that his form always be his choice, or somesuch. I think, much like the original Elidibus is apparently the "heart" of Zodiark, Venat is the "heart" of Hydaelyn. This also explains why we, specifically, are the Warrior of Light. All the different fragments of your soul, specifically, are part of that "heart".
austere bear
because remembering is a huge plot point on how to deal with the final days happening again
dawn flax
"Step on me, Hydaelyn Mommy~"
half phoenix
No, the WoL is literally Azem
austere bear
Azem was his best friend
half phoenix
And that was us
fleet geyser
i thought we are azem and because we are on the source we are the biggest part
dawn flax
which would also explain why Emet groomed and tested us and didn't just splat us
trim linden
wee are the reincarnation of azem
fleet geyser
and now ardbert (who was also a part of azem) is fused with us
mossy iron
Yep
austere bear
yea, because he looked up to the WoL
coral kite
No, the WoL is literally Azem
Uhhhh where was that said? I thought we were simply a reincarnation or shadow of Azem
mossy iron
A shard of Azem
fleet geyser
we are the reincarnation
dawn flax
Uhhhh where was that said? I thought we were simply a reincarnation or shadow of...
a sundered fragment
fleet geyser
on the source
mossy iron
Like Ardbert was on the First
fleet geyser
while there are several others on the other worlds
trim linden
what I want to know is what the hell we do with fandaniel
austere bear
The quote from azem say to claim the seat
trim linden
hes insane
half phoenix
We’re Azem because it’s always in our nature, no matter what life, to go around helping people, for no other reason than to help people
fleet geyser
it's probably why they made ardbert look like the derplander
coral kite
but then why are people saying we're literally Azem when we're not
trim linden
as in batshit caligula in your face insane
fleet geyser
we are azem, just shattered
austere bear
Azem is the title
teal geyser
We’re Azem because it’s always in our nature, no matter what life, to go around ...
Destiny is bullshit don't say that
mossy iron
Man, that's a lot of sundered Ascians now that I think about it
dawn flax
at least assuming yoship doesn't pull a Shyamalan on us
half phoenix
Destiny doesn’t equal our nature
austere bear
Fate will surely follow
trim linden
sunny, exactly
mossy iron
One for every original Ascian
austere bear
the quote from azem
trim linden
what the hell do we do now
fleet geyser
and they dont have the unsundered to reel them in
teal geyser
Destiny doesn’t equal our nature
Idk man sounds exactly like we can't escape a destiny of helping people no matter what we do
still valve
Azem is the title
I think this is important, not that we are a sundered person called Azem
fleet geyser
so we get FAMN, DANIEL
half phoenix
And technically we’re 4/7 back to being Azem now. 7 calamities, and taking Ardbert with us now
barren karma
I just want the next Expac to be a break, like a series of fun adventures with Pirates or something...
teal geyser
And technically we’re 4/7 back to being Azem now. 7 calamities, and taking Ardbe...
9/14
fleet geyser
wanting to die is relatable in fanny's shoes
teal geyser
Not 4/7
half phoenix
Where’d you get 9???
dawn flax
I think this is important, not that we are a sundered person called Azem
kind of nit picking, since they refer to each other by their title, we were the person with the title Azem
trim linden
thats a subtheme in many universes
teal geyser
7 calamities + us + Ardbert = 9
half phoenix
7 calamities, plus ardbert, that’s 8
trim linden
immortality is a curse, not a gift
austere bear
plus us
mossy iron
Being a shard of your original self would be....terrifying
teal geyser
7 calamities, plus ardbert, that’s 8
We as our own person count as 1 too
fleet geyser
names and titles can be a bit confusing
austere bear
WoL + ardbert + 7
fleet geyser
like how emet-selch is just a job, while the person was called "hades"
still valve
If nature equals destiny then seems like we should have helped Emet Selch succeed
mossy iron
Nature =! Destiny
dawn flax
assuming if there were so many shard worlds, wouldnt be out of that many?
still valve
Butt like accomplish putting everyone back together
half phoenix
14 shards total, 7 are gone, meaning 7 left, and then we drag a soul from one of the remaining away, that’s 6 left
mossy iron
The thing is, we get to decide for ourselves what to do
fleet geyser
is the 13th shard just lost?
coral kite
I mean still, title or not, we're not literally the person Emet was reminded of during our adventures with him
severe brook
though there was an Ancient named Emet-Selch back when the convocation was founded
severe brook
is the 13th shard just lost?
It's not lost, but it's very twisted
It's where Voidsent come from
austere bear
Emet admitted they screwed up
fleet geyser
tbh my guess for 6.0 was we were gonna take eden and dump all the light from the first into the void
mossy iron
It go splode
fleet geyser
to save both
dawn flax
I mean still, title or not, we're not literally the person Emet was reminded of ...
we are literally the same aether, that's how he found Y'shtola
coral kite
But we're still not the same person
severe brook
tbh my guess for 6.0 was we were gonna take eden and dump all the light from the...
that had been the Ascians' plan, actually
if they had successfully rejoined the First, they theorized it'd pull the Thirteenth in as well
fleet geyser
same soul, not same person i guess
fleet geyser
it's nature vs nurture
a classic problem
is gaia destined to be that one guy's lover or can she be her own person?
half phoenix
And the Ascians have no idea how to fix the void. They were hoping the light on the first would do something, but they had no idea. And i since there was only 1 calamity with black rose, itms probably safe to assume even after all the light on the first went to the source, that the void was still the void
austere bear
she cant quit ryne. shes too cute
dawn flax
can kill emet's flesh, but his aetheric soul keeps coming back unless we disrupt his soul's aether
royal spruce
This seems to be a popular section
mossy iron
Wait
half phoenix
Emet is gone
mossy iron
Is the Void still a whole planet or is it just shards?
severe brook
And the Ascians have no idea how to fix the void. They were hoping the light on ...
Personally I think the Eighth Umbral did pull in both the First and Thirteenth, and that's why it was so intense
half phoenix
We 100% killed him
dawn flax
Emet is gone
cuz we used our light to disrupt his dark aetheric soul
still valve
This game does kind of not make it clear if same person=same soul=same aether. I think WoL has to say they are different or else there really is no reason not to help the ascians
severe brook
Is the Void still a whole planet or is it just shards?
I think it's mostly like an asteroid belt but is still localized in the general space of the planet
half phoenix
Then the active aether of the void would have canceled the inert aether of the first, making black rose fail
mossy iron
That makes sense
royal spruce
Isn't it weird really weird that the story of and Walker end with 6.0 and doesn't continue on
severe brook
This game does kind of not make it clear if same person=same soul=same aether. I...
The game seems to be leaning that same soul /= same person, and that the Ascians are wrong
half phoenix
No, they are the same person
half phoenix
Just different experiences because different lives
severe brook
those different experiences shape who you are much more than who your soul once was a part of
mossy iron
^
still valve
That’s an interpretation that could be false though
still valve
It’s what the scions believe at least
dawn flax
well, at least for now, if we become a full-born ascian after absorbing other fragments, perhaps we become our pre-sundering self?
half phoenix
Your experiences determine your choices and decisions, if ardbert were us on the source instead, he’d be doing the same things we are
mossy iron
Not necessarily
coral kite
We'll never know
mossy iron
Maybe similar
severe brook
He might end up playing a similar role in similar events, but he wouldn't do anything exactly the same
for example, he is a Hyur Warrior
your WoL could also be a Hyur Warrior but is not guaranteed to be
mossy iron
But I don't think anyone ever really picks the same thing in the same circumstances
severe brook
even Derplander, the closest we have to a canon WoL, leaves behind being a Warrior and becomes a Dragoon at that point in time
still valve
If you were the original unsundered you might see all your pieces not wanting to come back together as just unruly kids who think their experiences are more important than being whole
dawn flax
eh, fighting for what's perceived as "good" is going to end up with similar results, assuming he'd have been strung along by hydaelyn like we were
tough jasper
i wonder if the changes to the level 50-80 scaling will make lower ilvl duties less of a pushover
heady shadow
Okay I might be going a little nuts,
Is it Emet speaking at the end of the 6.0 trailer?
half phoenix
He’d most likely be a scion, felling primals, dealing with constant political nonsense, and trying to keep a tyrannical ruler from committing genocide on the entire world
severe brook
It is Emet narrating the 6.0 Trailer
half phoenix
Yes
oak pike
Tbh I thought it was urianger
heady shadow
thought I was going nuts
severe brook
He’d most likely be a scion, felling primals, dealing with constant political no...
Playing a part in similar events does not mean he'll make the exact same choices or have the exact same experiences from those events
dawn flax
It is Emet narrating the 6.0 Trailer
people love him, if they still have him on favorably salary, they would be foolish not to keep him on in some capacity
half phoenix
Because it’s past tense. “The final days were upon us”
severe brook
People react to things differently and subjectively
empty scaffold
It is Emet narrating the 6.0 Trailer
It is but it’s old lines
forest magnet
when did he mention Far Edge of Fate in SHB
severe brook
I think it starts with his narration from Amaurot, but the part with Fandaniel and Zenos is new I think
yeah that part is new
forest magnet
yeah the "Far edge of fate" is new line
fleet geyser
i wonder if the changes to the level 50-80 scaling will make lower ilvl duties l...
they said this might very well be the case, but they also know unsync is very popular so they are looking for a way to preserve it with the current difficulty
severe brook
I imagine the Final Trailer will go through his entire Amaurot speech and have some more new lines as well
still valve
Maybe we go back in time or something. Maybe void towers are crysta towers gone wrong
forest magnet
I hope he lists out the patch name for each expansion's final patch like he said about HW
severe brook
this is a resurgence
forest magnet
Requiem for heroes
Death unto Dawn
severe brook
ah that'd be cool
tough jasper
they said this might very well be the case, but they also know unsync is very po...
i was thinking of synced duties in this case, say things like Lota or Thordan which are steamrolled due to the insane ilvl scaling
fleet geyser
lota wont change cuz it's lvl 50
forest magnet
you can get thordan down to 10% in in the inital phase
heady shadow
well either way It took me a couple rewatches since its been a while since I went through 5.0
tough jasper
the ilvl 50-130 range will be squished so that would affect lota
tough jasper
from my understanding they're addressing the ilvl inflation at 50/60/70/80
fleet geyser
squish shouldn't have any impact
mossy iron
They're addressing the ridiculous numbers
fleet geyser
but they are changing lvls 51-80
mossy iron
the new end game boss has like 44mil health
fleet geyser
so that the power jumps wont be so big between each
atm you go from 5k to 20k to 60k to 120k hp per expansion
severe brook
the new end game boss has like 44mil health
Emil's a tanky boy
barren karma
I wonder if the Sage air gun things will ahve different shapes and forms......man I can't wayt to play a sage!
brisk quail
Like right now. Every 10 levels the damage we deal triples
fleet geyser
probably gonna make the jumps less big
brisk quail
We go from like 5k to 20k
heady shadow
WE are too strong for their coding
fleet geyser
also they are dividing numbers by 5
grand compass
Anyone have pictures of the new AFs that were shown in the background of one of the slides in the presentation? For the life of me I can't find it.
fleet geyser
cuz they are getting too big
mossy iron
Yeah, they said that the damage tables weren't changing
just the numbers going into them
brisk quail
So they said they're going to reduce it by up to 80%
mossy iron
But
royal spruce
So how many you view are ditching scholar for sage
fleet geyser
there are 2 things happening : a stat squish and a lvl scaling change from 51-80
mossy iron
So the servers don't assplode
fleet geyser
or maybe the stat squish is only for 51-80? then it might have been worded confusingly lol
brisk quail
So you'll go from 5k dps to like 8k dps in 10 levels.
But bosses will be the same
forest magnet
or maybe the stat squish is only for 51-80? then it might have been worded confu...
well it's only for 51-80 because 80-90 will already have the progression in mind
fleet geyser
they said a BLM with ilvl 530 will go from 50k damage a spell to 10k
forest magnet
so no stat squish obviously
gaunt star
50-80 scaling is flattened but 80-90 scaling is the same as normal and I expect endgame L90 scaling is also the same because they rely on exponential growth to preserve granularity between ilvl tiers
forest magnet
cuz its already squished
fleet geyser
anyway, i dont mind if they make unsync harder
drowsy sky
yea but the farm
fleet geyser
i prefer doing everything synced anyways
mossy iron
They're worried about having overflow damage numbers coming back around and screwing things up
fleet geyser
it's why i still haven't cleared T9 after a year LOL
gaunt star
If they flattened endgame scaling then you'd run into situations where pentamelded crafted beats augmented tome outside the really rare niche cases that already happens
brisk quail
So from 8k dps to 5k dps
And bosses will be 100k hp to 62.5k hp
You'll be dealing the same damage proportionally
fleet geyser
yeah max lvl progression is gonna feel the same as always
just mid levels are being whacky
drowsy sky
me on my farm in 6.1 
fleet geyser
so unsync from 51-80 might become slightly more diffcult
brisk quail
But the #'s of everything will be smaller
mossy iron
I'm just a simple farmer
gaunt star
Actually makes me a little concerned because we roughly ~triple our dmg every expansion, so if we're doing 1/5th of current L80 dmg at L80 after the patch then we'll need another squish before 8.0
mossy iron
who occasionally takes care of Primals
fleet geyser
probably gonna get stat squishes after every 2 expansions
tough jasper
data center travel is interesting though
fleet geyser
i think wow also does something like this?
afaik recent wow expansion even reduced max level or something?
brisk quail
i think wow also does something like this?
Every mmo does this
fleet geyser
data center travel is giving me hope as an EU boy who has primarily NA friends
tough jasper
wow squished twice in a row because their scaling is INSANE
and this time they squished levels too
fleet geyser
i was shocked to learn that we will have market board access
digital forge
WoW scaling is genuinely insane
fleet geyser
i heard about people casually dealing millions of damage and not even putting a dent in things
digital forge
They squished BfA to around uuuuhhh 10k HP and such?
barren karma
Cruious question because I'm not a programmer....but why are stat squishes necessary? Can the computers that run the servers not handle the big calculations or something?
mossy iron
data center travel is giving me hope as an EU boy who has primarily NA friends
Just remember there's gonna be some restrictions
tough jasper
start to end expansion your dps going up by like 10x lol
fleet geyser
empty meaningles numbers lol
digital forge
And by the end they were pushing 100k+
drowsy sky
Blizzard is notoriously bad for squishing stats and levels only to let gear powercreep go back up in the same expansion, so they continuously gotta resquish rather than just... planning accordingly
tough jasper
higher numbers = more bits used
mossy iron
Cruious question because I'm not a programmer....but why are stat squishes neces...
Big numbers put stress on the server
tough jasper
that in turn requires more memory and processing
drowsy sky
Hopefully square can avoid that problem
fleet geyser
Just remember there's gonna be some restrictions
i assumed MB access would be the restriction but then they said it's gonna be available so dont know what else is gonna be restricted
tough jasper
FFXIV plans TOO much if anything
brisk quail
Cruious question because I'm not a programmer....but why are stat squishes neces...
Big numbers = data packets big = more chances for loss/lag/bugs
fleet geyser
if they restrict combat then i'm gonna be sad
barren karma
Ohh ok thank you ❤️
digital forge
Cruious question because I'm not a programmer....but why are stat squishes neces...
Software engineer here
Considering the framework of an MMO, you want the packets to be small and constant, and larger numbers take the slightest bit more time to compute
It's the law of large sizes
barren karma
Ohhhh
fleet geyser
they explained the multiple reasons on the stream itself
mossy iron
Like they said, they're not changing the computations, they're changing the numbers going into them
brisk quail
Tldr: big numbers are big
digital forge
Also that, yes
brisk quail
Small numbers are small
digital forge
The formulas won't change
drowsy sky
Also the fact that wow still runs on the wc3 engine could be a factor in how much the game can handle numberswise/how much they squish and xivs engine is no where near that old
digital forge
So it still be the same conceptual openers and potency and such
fleet geyser
if the numbers grow too large, they can overflow
if numbers are large, they take longer to compute and make the server slower
if numbers are too large, they look whacky taking up the full screen
that was their explanation
gaunt star
This makes me want to try to make aggro overflow tbh
tough jasper
wow at the end of legion was ridiculous
digital forge
i935 leggos lol
barren karma
I just wish they could find some server room to give us a bigger Glam Closet space (like say 1000 slots for gear) and perhaps and extra 15 glam plates......we just need more o.o
fleet geyser
overflow is what happened to make gandhi in civilization become a nuke monster
drowsy sky
My 5mil dps on Argus 😳
tough jasper
dealing 10m damage lol
mossy iron
Glam is the true endgame
tough jasper
boss hp 247554897 million
gaunt star
I bet you could make something happen with a bunch of tanks with stance on circleshirking each other
drowsy sky
Mop was crazy too but legion was insanity
tough jasper
legion was absurd
mossy iron
...
digital forge
I just wish they could find some server room to give us a bigger Glam Closet spa...
The other problem (that has continually cropped up) is that XIV's framework is The Shakiest Shit Imaginable
mossy iron
circleshirking
wooden hare
So do you think the new Golden Saucer stuff is poker?
tough jasper
provoke, shirk, repeat
fleet geyser
i wonder if their worry was blue mage with tank stance doing white winds lol
tough jasper
to generate absurd amounts of enmity
fleet geyser
nice term
digital forge
So do you think the new Golden Saucer stuff is poker?
That's been raised in the past and a definitive no because of gambling laws
tough jasper
white winds is absurd too lol
mossy iron
the term caught me off guard
barren karma
@digital forge Ahh yea...and considering what a dumpster fire 1.0 was I guess they don't have a lot to work with.
mossy iron
They said it was multiplayer
drowsy sky
New golden saucer game is uno
tough jasper
the look + tank stance is kinda crazy too especially post buff
viscid monolith
Too many BLU tanks ignore the look
tough jasper
its great if you get res'd
digital forge
<@!55104896105447424> Ahh yea...and considering what a dumpster fire 1.0 was I g...
It's one of those things which is always asked and they're definitely trying but uh
Technical Debt is a bitch
drowsy sky
Your MT passes you a draw 5, what do you do?
tough jasper
frog legs + the look
gaunt star
I actually unironically used a circleshirk in UWU to cement the tanks as top 1/2 aggro in SB
fleet geyser
you dont need it anymore after they doubled blu tank damage in 5.4
tough jasper
its useful if you get res'd
fleet geyser
tru
tough jasper
and your aggro is reset and you need it back up
mossy iron
Your MT passes you a draw 5, what do you do?
Don't heal him during a pull in the next dungeon we do together
tough jasper
since frog legs isnt very good to hold aggro
barren karma
@digital forge Ach that's to bad....I was thinking perhaps they could tie it to a Retainer? Like how we have to pay for an extra retainer perhaps a bonus glam retainer?
tough jasper
you need the look or white wind to follow up
drowsy sky
Draw 5 into the reverse
fleet geyser
also new meta is sticky tongue i believe?
wild marsh
Frog Legs is just old provoke, highest + 1 point of aggro
tough jasper
sticky tongue doesnt work if the target is immune to draw in
barren karma
I dont get BLU
tough jasper
idk if they fixed that
fleet geyser
blu can do everything and is super powerful
viscid monolith
Frog Legs is trash
barren karma
Honestly when I found out you can't duty with BLU I was like....what the point o_O
fleet geyser
so they cant do normal matchmaking
tough jasper
if the target is immune, sticky tongue completely fails and doesnt apply the enmity or stun
fleet geyser
but you can do dungeons and trials and raids and alliance stuff
tough jasper
i did normal shinryu with blu
fleet geyser
just gotta make a personal party
tough jasper
we basically skipped every mechanic
digital forge
Side content for being OP and a different take on the general level progression
tough jasper
first phase? tidal wave skipped directly into phase change
heady shadow
Btw I have a 6.0 ending prediction.
Our Unsundered self appears and will either, fuse with us or run off into the lifestream and hangs out with their friends.
fleet geyser
also they gave you a spell that makes you op when alone so now you can solo all dungeons as blu in this patch
tough jasper
second phase he was dead by the time he does the first ult
i soloed shinryu as blu, was fun
digital forge
All the unsundered are dead tho
And unless we've united with our 13th shard that's gonna be impossible
fleet geyser
also, blue mage is the new overlord of bozja relic farming now
people want to get carried for 8 minute syrcus tower runs
so they can get relics asap
barren karma
My prediction for the ending of 6.0 is that we marry Zenos and open up a Moogle themed cake shop on the moon.
tough jasper
the solo dungeon spell is fun though
fleet geyser
they can also smash SB raids now
tough jasper
it also works if your entire party is dead
barren karma
Can you BLU in Eurekia?
tough jasper
sadly no
fleet geyser
nah
barren karma
😦
tough jasper
would be fun tho
fleet geyser
thats one of the few things you cant take it into even with premade
barren karma
bummer...I'd take up Blu them if I culd grind out tokens in that hellhole
tough jasper
cant do ultimates either
fleet geyser
for other stuff you just put up a partyfinder
viscid monolith
Can't do Deep Dungeon either
tough jasper
i wonder if we will get level 80 blu in 6.1
they have been doing blu updates every year
fleet geyser
i'm sad we're not getting blultimate
barren karma
LOL tho all I ever see BLUs do in Limsa is explode and die
fleet geyser
blu is my favorite side content
digital forge
They'll most like push BLU up to max
heady shadow
I just think about it because when WoL is wearing their cloak going towards the light ball.
looks very much like we were mirroring our true self
digital forge
And then maybe another limited
viscid monolith
BLUltimate could have totally worked
fleet geyser
just make the achievements say that limiteds dont count for it
heady shadow
thats really the only reason I thought of it
fleet geyser
boom now you dont devalue it
tough jasper
make a different achievement
fleet geyser
also that yea
barren karma
what the point of the exploding death BLU spell I dont thinkyou can rez yerself
tough jasper
other players can
tough jasper
And it kills the target before you die
viscid monolith
Hide Blue Mage abilities needed to beat Ultimate in the Savage tier that unlocks it
Boom
tough jasper
so it works for carnivale
fleet geyser
usually you use the suicide skills at the end
viscid monolith
Fucking pay me SE
fleet geyser
if you kill the enemy and you die at the same time, it counts as a win
tough jasper
if there were spells locked behind savage people would go ape shit
fleet geyser
so you can get enemies down to like 30% and explode them
tough jasper
its bad enough for the garuda and shiva spell
barren karma
dammit just....let them exist in that pit of despair known as eurkia....I'd play the hell outta BLU then
tough jasper
at least now those 2 are soloable now though
fleet geyser
blue mage actually needs eureka gear for bis
tough jasper
if you dont mind grinding
full dock
I still could care less for BLU in patch 6.0 chat
barren karma
So ok we know about the Sage class but
fleet geyser
but i grinded really quickly to 55 a couple days ago
barren karma
is that the only class?
twilit shale
Two classes
fleet geyser
melee dps using most likely maiming gear
full dock
Netherseer boyz
fleet geyser
probably gonna use a scythe
twilit shale
1 shield healer - sage
brisk quail
Melee dps. May or may not use a scythe and maim gear
tough jasper
i wonder how noct ast will work after 6.0
barren karma
Also is Alphi and Gundam now or an Eva 😉
twilit shale
Yeah I think it's a scythe with maim
brisk quail
i wonder how noct ast will work after 6.0
They wont
twilit shale
i wonder how noct ast will work after 6.0
Not going to have
tough jasper
i mean will they still have their sects
livid oracle
Man the mods for the Nouliths will be saints row tier
tough jasper
they could make both of them healing sects
brisk quail
i mean will they still have their sects
No
tough jasper
oh?
full dock
AST mains must be sad right now
tough jasper
theyre getting rid of the sects
twilit shale
AST and WHM = Pure healers
SGE and SCH = Shield healers
tough jasper
sad
fleet geyser
i guess one could be regen one could be instant heals?
tough jasper
looks like they will have to change the quests significantly again lol
livid oracle
i guess one could be regen one could be instant heals?
Excuse me WHM does both of that.
fleet geyser
yeah
barren karma
Also as I've said before but i shall say again Fs in chat for Alphis little carbuncles.....I uhhh.....wonder where they went o.o
twilit shale
I stopped playing AST in 5.0 when they changed the card system to be as boring and ineffective as it is now
fleet geyser
and scholar has shields yet sage is gonna be a barrier healer
full dock
AST gonna be a meme in 6.0
twilit shale
Even though I mained it in 4.x
livid oracle
Also as I've said before but i shall say again Fs in chat for Alphis little carb...
Crafting material for his sage weapons lol
tough jasper
AST getting butchered every expansion rip
barren karma
@livid oracle Oh noooooooo! LOL
fleet geyser
well, cant wait for the scholar rework that has to happen at least
twilit shale
3.x sch > 4.x AST >>>>> everything else
brisk quail
3.x sch > 4.x AST >>>>> everything else
SB Bard >
full dock
6.0 = WHM and SAGE comps
fleet geyser
we'll see
barren karma
Does Ff14 have a beta/alpha for expansions? Or is that usually done internally and we just get it when it's complete?
fleet geyser
but yeah they said raid finder is gonna be split into pure healer and barrier healer categories
brisk quail
Does Ff14 have a beta/alpha for expansions? Or is that usually done internally a...
When it's done
full dock
Maybe Sage less Healy and more dps
brisk quail
Exception is early access for preorders
fleet geyser
they said sage has a mode where they switch to getting more dps
brisk quail
Like they did for SHB
fleet geyser
oh preorder gets early access?
next quarry
A week of it
brisk quail
They did for SHB
tough jasper
they said sage has a mode where they switch to getting more dps
cleric 2.0 electric boogaloo
twilit shale
SB Bard >
I went to go play bard again from 60 and I was shook at how garbage it is now. Applying 2 dots manually to each mob when it used to spread iirc? That you need to have mage's ballad up to proc BL/RoD when that used to be a main feature of Bard???? Really??????
viscid monolith
They extended early access to a week?
full dock
Lol a week xD
next quarry
Isn't it a week?
viscid monolith
It was just 3 days last time
barren karma
How would one even pre-oder on the square store? That place is a mess and a nightmare to order form
brisk quail
How would one even pre-oder on the square store? That place is a mess and a nigh...
Do it on mog station
fleet geyser
i assume you will also be able to preorder on steam?
brisk quail
Or your related platform.store
full dock
Why even release one at that point either do a long one or don’t
viscid monolith
Because it's also a server stress test
full dock
Ahh fair
full dock
Memes aside, I guess every bit counts
barren karma
@brisk quail Directly from the mog station? I tried to buy Shadowbringers thru that once and it directed me to the store...then I had to make a guest acoont because it wouldent let me checkout with my mog station account o.o
fleet geyser
mog station is a mess
i'm so glad i bought it on steam
although you still go through mog station a bit
barren karma
I have a feeling I might just pre-order on amazon >_<
full dock
Meanwhile, I heard steam is a mess
fleet geyser
steam has some upsides
brisk quail
fleet geyser
especially depending on where you live
steam has regional pricing for subs
you can get like 70% off on sub cost
my russian friend pays like 3 bucks a month lol
barren karma
sad I can't migrate my account to steam but you can't o_O
fleet geyser
yeah i dont think you can migrate after buying
steam also allows you to pay with steam wallet if you like that, another upside
barren karma
Square.....seriously.....you're infrastructure is from 1995...it's time to update >_<
fleet geyser
some people used to say you need to have steam open to play ffxiv but that's false
the only downside to steam is that sales last longer on mogstation than steam
like twice as long iirc
but i guess that only matters when you are first buying the game
barren karma
I'll just see if amazon get it for pre-order >_<
fleet geyser
otherwise it's fine and me + all my friends play on steam
barren karma
even if it's just a code in a box
fleet geyser
steam wallet purchase for sub is just too comfy for me
full dock
So you use a steam acc rather than a SE one?
fleet geyser
yea
you still need to have a mogstation account though
and when you buy the game and expansion, you get a code you put into mogstation
full dock
Yet they don’t let you use mogstation?
viscid monolith
Yes 18 each
radiant pollen
steam wallet purchase for sub is just too comfy for me
same
fleet geyser
but when you wanna recharge your sub, they give you the "pay with steam wallet" option if you bought on steam
radiant pollen
love selling all those trading cards and paying part of my sub with it
fleet geyser
you can buy stuff on mogstation
just not expansions
you have to buy the expansions on steam if your game was bought on steam
and vice versa
full dock
Wait then how do sales not last as long if you can use mogstation
fleet geyser
just sales for expansions i mean
full dock
Oh gotcha
fleet geyser
which is why i said it only matters when you first purchase the game
full dock
Ok that’s really not a bad deal tbh
fleet geyser
otherwise i only see upsides for steam
twilit shale
fleet geyser
cheaper sub depending on region + steam wallet option
full dock
I regret not going steam then
twilit shale
full dock
Damn
twilit shale
full dock
I was recommended no steam
fleet geyser
people think you cant play the game without having steam open
fleet geyser
but afaik you can just put some line into the config to let it run without steam
twilit shale
i'm not going to spent $50 for shipping a notebook set
full dock
That’s not right
twilit shale
it's always like this
full dock
That is actually dumb
fleet geyser
"Run ffxivboot.exe with the "-issteam" option. This can be added to a shortcut for FFXIV by adding "-issteam" (without the quotes) to the end of the Target field:"
fleet geyser
apparently thats how you can play ffxiv on steam without having steam open
but i always have steam open anyways so I never bothered
but some people dont know about this trick so they think you are forced to have steam open and have to sacrifice performance or something
it's not correct though
full dock
I mean that’s fair.. people usually just think buy game and play
fleet geyser
yeah it's fair
starting to play ffxiv when you first buy it is quite a chore tbh
it's like one of the biggest hurdles
so many different versions
and you cant cross them
except if you start the free trial on sqex but want to switch to steam for full version
weird restrictions
twilit shale
The intro to ff is pretty long
I love ff story
but yeah like up till 2.3 it's pretty harsh
compact temple
I like ff7 story
mortal monolith
Did you also notice that ishgard/sharlayan/churning mist looks like it's falling apart in the new trailer?
mossy iron
squint
turbid aspen
Dragon time 
rain onyx
That’s what you deserve, moghome
mossy iron
All the things seem skewed
mortal monolith
Ishgard, sharlayan and uldah bends to the left
mortal monolith
could also be poor cgi 🤷
tardy ingot
Perhaps
rugged oxide
Btw did someone figure something about the Children of Bodom shirt he was wearing ?
barren karma
Noooo not moghome!
inner kite
Is the new trailer music nirvana something in the way
fleet geyser
is the children of bodom shirt the one with the grim reaper?
probably alluding to the new melee dps being the reaper class
rugged oxide
Scythes '^'
fleet geyser
it's most likely at this point
mossy iron
No, that was the Showcase shirt
He had a no comment shirt on first
then the reaper shirt
austere jackal
and then another reaper shirt
mossy iron
And then the Bodom shirt for the Live Letter
severe brook
the No Comment shirt was probably just a joke, since they introduced Sage very quickly after it anyway
orchid plinth
Did they announce th 2nd New job
fleet geyser
they are both scythe wielding
mossy iron
They'll be doing that in May
orchid plinth
I bet it's a Titan job
serene crest
No just confirmed it's a melee dps
mossy iron
melee dps and possible using Maiming gear
wet crown
It's a melee DPS and it will use maiming gear
mossy iron
^
serene crest
Presumably sharing maiming gear with DRG, from the sounds of that follow up interview?
fleet geyser
yup
severe brook
my guess is Reaper or Templar, with the lore of being a fighting style used to lay the dead to rest
austere jackal
and most believe it will use a scythe
floral aurora
Fans: No way 6.0 can top 5.0!
Yoshida: Hold my beer
orchid plinth
Yes, as a main drg
mossy iron
Always, Mario
floral aurora
XD
severe brook
it almost certainly will wield a Scythe, judging by both Yoshi-P's shirts and the brief glimpse we see of Zenos' new weapon
mossy iron
XD
floral aurora
Sucks its the fall
mossy iron
I mean
floral aurora
So wanted it to be summer
mossy iron
ShB and SB came out in like September
orchid plinth
We already have scythe wielding job, botanist :p
kind lark
The data center travel is exciting
severe brook
ShB came out in May didn't it
fleet geyser
time to live out your inner touhou / soul eater / rwby / GATE dreams
floral aurora
July
severe brook
also yeah can't believe they're putting Ruby and Penny in XIV
how much money did rooster teeth pay 'em
mossy iron
Okay
floral aurora
I'm hoping all story cutscenes is voice acted xD
mossy iron
ARR was August 2013, HW was June 2015, SB was June 2017, and ShB was July 2019
Soooo
Having to push it out cause of COVID makes sense
floral aurora
Still sucks lol
mossy iron
so like Aug-Oct
floral aurora
The data center travel is exciting
Hunt system needs a change
August would be fine
fleet geyser
go back to circleshirking
floral aurora
Nomore nuts lol
mossy iron
That doesn't help me get Sacks of Nuts, does it
floral aurora
plain plover
when was radz-at-han previously mentioned in the game?
is it a shadowbringers new detail?
mossy iron
Uhhhh
I know the DNC originates from there
But Thavinair stuff has been around since uhhh 1.0?
fleet geyser
arr or HW relics need radz- something something
plain plover
yeah some details for me have been so long so forgotten
so i wasn't sure if it was introduced very early and i skipped a lot of pre lvl 50 ARR and a lot of 2.x
kindred rampart
plain plover
getting back into the game soon so getting up to date with new stuff
fleet geyser
i remember them saying something about importing it from thavnair though
pine epoch
You know what funny someone in here was saying about a month ago the devs would never release a capstone trial mount that wasnt based on eastern mythos. Citing the first 2 were Kirin and firebird. And the 3rd was kyubi. Well now I am happy that we get fucking starscream dragonzoid robot Cruise chaser mount
mossy iron
Yeah, plus the Thavnairian glams
fleet geyser
i was sure the mount was gonna be a golden shenlong like dragon
mossy iron
Yep
fleet geyser
but pleasantly surprised we got metaldramon instead
plain plover
yeah i'm wearing mostly that
mossy iron
The shiny flowy top
fleet geyser
dancer central
plain plover
The shiny flowy top
i basically glamed full thavnarian male except for top and did pvp instead
pine epoch
i was sure the mount was gonna be a golden shenlong like dragon
I thought it was gonna be Provenance watcher or o10 midgardsomer
kindred rampart
I imagine the jump puzzles will be pretty challenging there
mossy iron
Ooo
pine epoch
But I'm happy with the robot dragon. I wonder if it will transform when landing on the ground
plain plover
pine epoch
And become something different
fleet geyser
also please add the castrum hotfix soon
plain plover
yeah the thavnairian top looked weird on lala
and the like roman style top was too good
mossy iron
Yeah, one of my best friends is a lala
barren karma
I want another car.....I mean I didn't get a chance at the one that was a promotion.....and with all the tech and freaking Star Destroyer on the new logo I think we should get a new car mount.
mossy iron
He struggles to find outfits
plain plover
yeah lalafells like most glams that are good on other races look shit on them but its then also vice versa
brisk quail
Potato
plain plover
good glams on lalas tend to look ass on others
brisk quail
It's like any short race
brisk quail
Pants, boots? Bad
mossy iron
the Bridesmaid's dress
brisk quail
Hat? Most importsnt
mossy iron
looks awesome on lalas
barren karma
Everything looks good on Elezen ❤️
mossy iron
absolutely terrible on anyone taller, except maybe Au ra females
plain plover
my friend when he first saw my glam thought i was playing female because he saw me from behind and thought my char was in a dress
just really long side thing, don't know what that is called
mossy iron
Issa robe
plain plover
yeah sorry flooding with non 6.0 things last one, yeah lala thavnairian group i was solo but they were together
mossy iron
Glorious
floral aurora
Lala hype!
plain plover
what i wonder is how small lala children are
mossy iron
That's why they're called popotos
fleet geyser
they pluck them out of the ground at full size
floral aurora
I still want an option to make my lala smaller xD
mossy iron
that's what they are like
plain plover
the only non hyur race we've seen a child for is elezen and miqote right?
shell merlin
@plain plover potato sized
mossy iron
I want an option to pick up lalas
plain plover
I still want an option to make my lala smaller xD
oh i did max height
mossy iron
Let me pick up lalas like freaking Raubahn
fleet geyser
they should have put a knockback on party members on suzaku's BLU spell
barren karma
I wish tho Hyur could be a bit taller....why is my Midlander so squatty short >_<
floral aurora
Smallest for me xD I want this kind of Mario
fleet geyser
so you can literally punt lalafels
floral aurora
brisk quail
they should have put a knockback on party members on suzaku's BLU spell
Just use Malediction of water
Best spell EVER
fleet geyser
yeah but that doesnt let you punt lalas
mossy iron
Wait wait
fleet geyser
which is what everyone wanted
brisk quail
No.
mossy iron
I was lied to
barren karma
I wish they would finish the 2 races they introduced......I want my buff buxom Hrothgar women and cute little Bunny boys
plain plover
what would a beastmasters gear even be?
kind lark
hrolthgar has the potential to be great
fleet geyser
they were heavily hinting at beastmaster
plain plover
actually could SE do that class in 7.0 atleast just to trigger PETA
fleet geyser
but they said it would most likely be limited
mossy iron
I want my Hrothgar Queen, dammit
fleet geyser
so maybe in 6.1
mossy iron
buuuut
barren karma
I also wanna Bunny boy.....and ya know they bunny boys would de-throne the cat boys
plain plover
I want my Hrothgar Queen, dammit
||i spoiled bozjan without even starting it but isn't she shown?||
twin atlas
I wish they would finish the 2 races they introduced......I want my buff buxom H...
I mean, theres still some hope : ') I guess, hope is the last thing u loose xd
fleet geyser
||i spoiled bozjan without even starting it but isn't she shown?||
||she's a femroe cuz no female hroths|| bozja
mossy iron
'there's no point in having either female Hroth or male Viera cause they don't do much (female Hroth run the villages) and they're not mentioned much (male viera)'
brisk quail
Why not... instead of bunny boys and big catgirls.
Just more battle content?
Why care about who you play as
Just fight
That's all you do.
More fight
More bloodshed
barren karma
Aesthetics matter
fleet geyser
time to remove male catboys again so they can save dev time
vivid bane
who cares if the sex of the race doesnt do much just let me play as them lmao
barren karma
I mean glam is the real endgame
mossy iron
You remove catbois and I will cry
plain plover
Just fight
austere jackal
time to remove male catboys again so they can save dev time
yep might as well remove one gender of each race
and remove all hates
vivid bane
too many of my friends do this
mossy iron
I don't understand why for the skipping
plain plover
too many of my friends do this
that was me up until lvl 48 and then most of 2.x
mossy iron
The team works really hard to give us great story
fleet geyser
i have a friend who is subbed for literally only doing ultimate prog on the weekend
plain plover
The team works *really hard* to give us great story
yeah around 2.4 i really invested into the story
twin atlas
tbh if they add male viera Ill literally never need anything else from this game, itsl ike the last thing I want on my wishlist
brisk quail
The team works *really hard* to give us great story
And races don't mattwr in that
Soooo
mossy iron
Yes, they do, it's lore
twin atlas
We know it isnt lore, its that its hard to implement them
barren karma
I mean we have New Game + so it's not like that content is gone for good....I know someone who bought a story skip to catch up to there friends but is playing all the old story via NG+ and vewing stuff in the cinimatics diary
mossy iron
shruggy
plain plover
I mean we have New Game + so it's not like that content is gone for good....I kn...
wait we have new game + mode?
fleet geyser
yea
barren karma
also there are some very very good youtube vids that explain what is going on as well
fleet geyser
they also keep adding more stuff to ng+
plain plover
is it just watching the cutscenesa gain?
twin atlas
also guys I saw someone on the forums post an interview about missing genders where Yoshida says that basically they cant confrm anything but are 'trying their best': https://massivelyop.com/2020/04/07/o...d-yusuke-mogi/
also
does anyoen know
mossy iron
'Pray return'
twin atlas
if the island thing will have hgousing?
onyx apex
is it just watching the cutscenesa gain?
its like doing the quest for the first time again
austere jackal
is it just watching the cutscenesa gain?
you paly through the quests again
onyx apex
without rewards obviously
twin atlas
I seriously wish we can have housing over the island
just how cool itd be to make your own 'town'
plain plover
oh does it straight up reset the game?
twin atlas
as unlikely as that is lol
mossy iron
No, you can toggle in and out of it
plain plover
oh sick thanks, also if doing with a diff class does it level it up perm?
mossy iron
Yep
barren karma
Enjoy NG+ ^_^
barren karma
mee too Sunny
mossy iron
Mine are all RP characters
maiden lodge
if the island thing will have hgousing?
No it isn't housing it's a minion farm
mossy iron
I'll be happy enough to get a big house in Shirogane and a medium in Limsa
I have my doubts
But I can hope
When Ishgard opens
twin atlas
No it isn't housing it's a minion farm
thats kinda... strange lol?
like u have the minions running around
barren karma
If I didn't spend all my gil on glam I'd have 2 houses by now >_<
mossy iron
From what it showed
twin atlas
but is there anything to do there?
mossy iron
Growing stuff
floral aurora
Honestly I am okay if Dancer and Gunbreaker are the last jobs we will get from FFXI
mossy iron
If I didn't spend all my gil on glam I'd have 2 houses by now >_<
This is a freaking mood
grand compass
anyone remember where in the stream they showed some of the new AF armors, i can't find it
wet mountain
Starts at 70 though have to decide if I want to start 6.0 story or lvl up new classes to 80
barren karma
Sage looks like fun O_O
deft trail
If I didn't spend all my gil on glam I'd have 2 houses by now >_<
I feel that. I swear I've spent more on glams and prisms than on everything else combined
lime estuary
so whats the bet on the focus location for the next saga? New World? Meracydia?
heady shadow
looks more then just minions
looks like mounts too
which begs the wonder if its instances or bs like doma and ishgard when you gotta compete
floral aurora
Sage just looks incredible
barren karma
I'm kinda hopeing for a expansion that's a bit of a break....perhaps a fun little min adventure or little slice of life stories
severe brook
i think that'll be 7.0
maiden lodge
thats kinda... strange lol?
No it's not strange. A tip for this game and it's communication: Don't always read things into things that are said; if they leave out something like 'housing in the minion farm' it's not there. Housing in the minion farm would be something they'd open with.
twin atlas
Starts at 70 though have to decide if I want to start 6.0 story or lvl up new cl...
during the early acces leveling sage will likely be a breeze since its a healer and queues will be short, unless servers shut down
mossy iron
On da mooon
kind lark
@floral aurora I'm not familiar with hunt system so sure if it needs fixing, fix it
mossy iron
Big city on da moon
barren karma
I think they should make a new wedding chapel on the moon
kind lark
was in a dungeon
wet mountain
Still takes a while to 70-80
barren karma
and give us Trust NPC weddings.....they dont have to be cannon >_>
brisk quail
Yes, they do, it's lore
I'd say Race/Gender has the LEAST bearing on story for the PC.
I'd argue your JOB choice has more bearing. Since it alters the sub15 quest line
wet mountain
Unless they bring a skip pot to lvl 80 at 6.0
brisk quail
mossy iron
For some reason that makes me think of The Restaurant at the end of the Universe
twin atlas
No it's not strange. A tip for this game and it's communication: Don't always ...
Yeah I didnt like expect it to be housing I admit it was just wishful thinking combined with me not getting what the island was meant to be (I though minion farm was read as a way to farm minions lmao, didnt take it literally)
mossy iron
"Chapel on the moon'
maiden lodge
during the early acces leveling sage will likely be a breeze since its a healer ...
Comment on going healer for first job and 'short queues.'
A good dps has faster dungeons than a good healer. And if you're going healer in early access, if your plan is 'short queues' you're going for 'short queues' during a time when you get most of your XP through quests, which forces your dps main to level through dungeons and not quests.
floral aurora
<@!231625232199188480> I'm not familiar with hunt system so sure if it needs fix...
Currently you have to cheese it on consoles and average PCs by aoe healing since the monster doesn't render right away when there is a high population
twin atlas
Comment on going healer for first job and 'short queues.'
A good dps has faster...
yeah but if theyre lvling the lvl 70 sage they cant do it through msq if theyve finished 5.x
maiden lodge
yeah but if theyre lvling the lvl 70 sage they cant do it through msq if theyve ...
Yeah but they hit 80 and then what?
Also, the level 70-80 queues will be DOMINATED by Sage and NewJob2.
Why do you think healer queues will be 'short' in that range?
barren karma
also....square...can I just have an HD texture pack for PC? pleeeease @_@
twin atlas
Yeah but they hit 80 and then what?
Also, the level 70-80 queues will be DOMINA...
yeah u have a point about the queues being dominated, but once they hit 80 is when they can do the new msq
maiden lodge
I'm saying this as someone who DID go 'the new healer job' back in HW... trust me, it doesn't work out the way you think
mossy iron
So this is when I learn to tank, right?
twin atlas
fair enough, I havent ever put it to practice
mossy iron
Tank properly, anyways
austere jackal
would be the best bet
barren karma
I'm such a nervous tank 😦
maiden lodge
yeah u have a point about the queues being dominated, but once they hit 80 is wh...
And once they have new MSQ, most of their xp has nothing to do with queues, so you're getting 'rocket queues' for a small portion of your actual experience. Then what does your main do?
floral aurora
also....square...can I just have an HD texture pack for PC? pleeeease @_@
I wouldn't be surprised if an outsourced team is working on a remastered version of FFXIV
brisk quail
Yeah but they hit 80 and then what?
Also, the level 70-80 queues will be DOMINA...
Me: a pld main
FUCK YEAH. MILLISECOND QUEUE
twin atlas
first thing I did in SHB was lvl DNC but I did in HoH which was 'fast'-esque (about 2 days I think)
maiden lodge
(assuming you won't main sage, if you are maining sage, yeah, go ham)
twin atlas
yeah I assumed they meant to main sage
maiden lodge
Oh yeah, if you plan to main a new job, rush it for sure
mossy iron
Tank I can manage up to like...55-60
maiden lodge
But not because of queues
kind lark
I prefer thyme
floral aurora
Rush it? Why?
maiden lodge
Rush it? Why?
To get a leg up and start on the new primal and have it kitted out before .05
Cause you need accessories and a weapon
floral aurora
Idk, when it comes to expansion launches i like to take my sweet time
barren karma
I'm also a slow puller and tend to be so hard on myself if I loose even one mob....it's weird cuz bosses are really easy and I enjoy tanking then....just trash mobs make me nervous 😦
maiden lodge
I like to be immersed in the story
Same, and I get'er done
You can be immersed in the story and still get'er done in a couple days
floral aurora
I can understand rushing a alt or rushing another job before the next patch hits
mossy iron
True, but I also like to explore as I go
gaunt star
whilst healer and dps queues are gonna be longest, i feel like there's gonna be a little bit more tanks queueing cuz of PLD
mossy iron
redoes old content to find Eorzean script to translate
gaunt star
question is... which dps do i do dungeons with
barren karma
I sometimes like to liten to ghost stories and just gather and craft.....or do some hunts......I love that there is sooo much to do in this game ❤️
gaunt star
i want that fat xp
barren karma
MCH is fun to duty with
kind lark
Go with whatever Zenos is going with
barren karma
do we know what the 2nd class is gonna be yet like.....or is that in another reveal?
twin atlas
I usually try to stick to the poster boy for the expac, so Im likely gonna do PLD, although sage is really tempting and that Samurai AF looks great, plus I bet the DNC one will do as well
brisk quail
do we know what the 2nd class is gonna be yet like.....or is that in another rev...
Fanfest
floral aurora
Dancer is damn near perfect now, what will the changes be in 6.0 I wonder.
I'm hoping we get a 3rd dance step move
mossy iron
do we know what the 2nd class is gonna be yet like.....or is that in another rev...
Mayyyyy
May 15-16 FF
barren karma
coool