retired-patch-6-3-discussion

[sterile moat]

also that the cross is as thicc as his hitbox

[next quarry]

Might be easier to just take it all with manawall

[sterile moat]

misjudging how thicc the goddamn thing got me killed a few times

[wary pond]

i skip 3rd boss

sorry folk

im not interested to wipe 30 mins to easy mechs

[viscid monolith]

I've never actually seen a wipe to Dawon

[sterile moat]

same

the only wipes i've seen were due to lyon failing

which can be easily fixed by making a premade of the people with essences up

[wet crown]

I wiped to Dawon because the timer ran out. 2 wipes to Lyon.

[viscid monolith]

We almost failed Lyon last night because most of the Lyon group were new

Side note

Why is it so fucking hard to herd these idiots into a group to do Lyon?

[wet crown]

Stand behind him and use Arm's Lenght/Surecast on the second Wind's Peak

[viscid monolith]

These people are so fucking scared like holy shit

[wet crown]

peasants

[viscid monolith]

Why does it take 5 minutes to form a group

[sterile moat]

i've formed a new group on 4 runs so far

people tend to get into it quite fast

[wet crown]

not on light

[sterile moat]

we're forming a new group on this run for top

grabbing people 2 mins into it

[heady shadow]

Imagine

for the BA of Bozja.

you get a Red Chocobo mount.

that for some reason decided that it likes you

[jade cedar]

anyone know what this does ?

[heady shadow]

looks like.... a game of chance.
you either do some big damage or you do nothing

maybe?

[wary perch]

Red chocobo mount is lame though

Not that big difference from your red dye chocobo

[jade cedar]

i guess i'm using it in 1v1

[twilit wing]

Red chocobo mount has the only damaging mount skill in the game

[twilit wing]

:P

[sterile moat]

pop on 1v1

get doom

[viscid monolith]

Literally at 2% Red Comet and some fucking moron baited meteors into the safe spot

[sterile moat]

[viscid monolith]

Now I have to find another instance

Maybe if people didn't hype this fucking CE up so much people wouldn't panic

[glacial nova]

There’s a red chocobo mount?

[sterile moat]

kind of

just dye your chocobo

[glacial nova]

Ah, was gonna say.... just do that lol

[sterile moat]

red chocobos aren't known for being mountable though

they're so wild they learned meteor

[jade cedar]

oh i see thanks for the effects

[sterile moat]

nothing like getting your arises overwritten by verraise

[dim sigil]

There's one from the gold feathers to

[wet crown]

Like that guy from the IVth said : It's like the fall of Dalamud all over again

[viscid monolith]

The NPC in Bozja are wacky

I just pulled a 6 Fell Cleave IR window because they gave me a buff

[next quarry]

They're strong

[sterile moat]

bajsaljen will always give you a crit buff

if you're near him

one of the plds, stanik i think will cover you

isolde will mimic crash bandicoot and spam LB3s

i saw him one shot waves of mobs before

[viscid monolith]

The DRK and SAM both have strong aoes that use at the same time

[sterile moat]

yea

finally got velibor notes

still missing dyunby, marsak, sartauvoir and lyon

i have a feel lyon is from the 1v1

[lilac crest]

Bozja is depressing

300coins

0 augment

[odd yoke]

Lyon is from castrum

[sterile moat]

oh?

i was going to mention that one too

i got a field note from castrum before but i already had it

[odd yoke]

I got lyon from last boss

I wouldnt be too surprised if duels gave it

[topaz dune]

Lyon is basiclly the Grandmaster Beastmaster

and he somehow knows of us

rest of his crew knows barely little

[viscid monolith]

Lyon knows you because he heard you defeated Zenos

[odd yoke]

I wouldn't be surprised if anyone in the Empire hasn't heard of us

[wary pond]

empire is big plus

defeat of legatus is classified info

from alot of ppl

[topaz dune]

grey hair doesnt know yet shes next on our kill list

||cause yknow, primal summoning||

[wary pond]

even the ppl in imperial palace didnt know of zenos defeat

[topaz dune]

soon misijia will just be another play toy to defeat

[wary pond]

i feel misjia will have fordola treatment

you cant just kill ppl with echo or resonant

[topaz dune]

quite possibly, though if she continues on the same path as Nidhogg, itll just be endless 1v1 for her

[agile otter]

The memory in Save the Queen implies that the events of the past are different to what Misija said them to be.

So you just smack em around WoL style, and then go be a historian for memories.

[severe brook]

i mean i do have a theory as to how Misija could be dealt with

i could see her possibly actually merging with the Lady of Blades/Save the Queen in desperation, instead of just commanding her

which would have her soul be mingled with primal aether, thus possibly rendering her vulnerable

[topaz dune]

so basiclly a fusion

[wary pond]

if misija can use save the queen

its over

[severe brook]

this would also result in a multi-headed, multi-armed Lady of Blades so we get an Asura fight

[topaz dune]

its over for her, she wont be able to look like her original form anymore

[wary pond]

so we have to kill her before she get access to the sword

[severe brook]

well

[agile otter]

The memory that we went into at the end is of Save the Queen.

[severe brook]

she still has the sword

[wary pond]

but the sword itself could have lost its power

due primal summoning

for sometime

[topaz dune]

as seen, it has some power but most of it was prob spent due to summoning said primal

[agile otter]

The specific circumstance is not clear, but misija is implied to have altered the aether in Save the Queen.

Since memory is aether

[topaz dune]

altered it with negativity due to past disgust

[agile otter]

With Misija's view of the past correct.

Even though if she paid attention to the memory she would have learned otherwise.

[severe brook]

well the primal dissolves after misija gets shot

so she wasn't active for very long

and the blade remains

[wary pond]

it dissolved?

looks like it was still there

if primal dissolved

then no need to escape

[agile otter]

Gun beats primal perhaps.

[formal niche]

Gun beats most people. Not sure why everyone just stood there when she was showboating

Could have just shot her multiple times

[agile otter]

It is still a plot so gotta make some effective use of Drama.

Also beating someone with sheer strength, and then destroying their understanding of the past is more satisfying to do.

[sterile moat]

Gun beats most people. Not sure why everyone just stood there when she was showboating
@formal niche cause it's a flintlock gun

it only shoots once

[formal niche]

Just bring a crate of them

[heady shadow]

hey now

[formal niche]

Just unload, throw it away, grab a new one

[heady shadow]

theres some weird flintlocks

that have three or so barrels xD

[formal niche]

Nobody questions it when one of the MCH AoEs was machinegun fire from a single shot rifle

[vagrant sinew]

yo what's the bitter memory grind method in bozja

just to be sure

is it killing mobs or doing fates in bozja?

[odd yoke]

Mobs

Aoe farm it up

Get everything at once

[maiden lodge]

GO big

Get a friend, have them go big

[next quarry]

Being in a party split in the map is good too

Farm or clusters and fragments too

[maiden lodge]

Voltron your aoe farms into one massive aoe farm across the entire map

Stonks

[vagrant sinew]

so basically just go for a cluster farm party and bam you get ez bitters?

[next quarry]

That works too

Get a cool mount too

[vagrant sinew]

not as cool as gabriel alpha

[lilac crest]

Gabriel the coolest mount in game rn

If only they’d give us a chariot mount 😔

[next quarry]

It's cool, but not as fun as Construct

[lilac crest]

Costruct 14?

[next quarry]

I like chasing people down with it

[lilac crest]

The big boi

I only have construct VII 😔

[slim egret]

Have u tried flying with gabriel

[lilac crest]

How long does cluster farm take for mount

[slim egret]

That shit feels so awesome

[next quarry]

Yes

[vagrant sinew]

I like how I got fuckin demi ozma and used it exclusively

[next quarry]

Took me little over an hour

[vagrant sinew]

and now I fucking get gabriel alpha 2 hours into patch day

[rain onyx]

Construct 14 mount feels like;

POV: You’re my weekly b-rank and you see me approaching you

[next quarry]

We had optimized it a bit

[lilac crest]

I lowkey want sqex to like

Make a giant ass mount

Thats larger than whale

Behemoth

And construct 14

Include the chocobo carriage too cause that shit is huge

And just have a colossal mount

Imagine pulling up somewhere with a fucking giant

[vagrant sinew]

and you'd somehow still fit thru things anyway

like gates

or doors

[lilac crest]

Yes

Aye

Someone try wntering the door on mor dhona into rising stones

Using construct 14

[severe brook]

summon bismarck as a mount

either bismarck will do

[north fulcrum]

That’s one thing I do like on this game

The hit box doesn’t change and block me

When I mount

Playing a Tauren was suffering on WoW

You had to use a small mount or get stopped by every doorway

[sterile moat]

famous last words

[brisk quail]

Vauthry with tiny wings mount

[sterile moat]

then i went in with 3 healers 1 tank 4 dps and beaten it

[north fulcrum]

Are they trying to 5 DPS Lyon

[sterile moat]

with a lot of time to spare

5 dps as in

5 dps +something else

[north fulcrum]

Like yeah it’s doable but pugs tho

[sterile moat]

yea they failed, it is doable

i beaten it with 4 WHMs 1 tank 2 dps yesterday

the state of dps players where 4 whms beat them on dps checks

[north fulcrum]

I’m level 14 now and I don’t wanna finiiiiiiiish

[brisk quail]

Why is solem clarity banner the best?

[north fulcrum]

Haha

[sterile moat]

48 WHM run when?

[north fulcrum]

48 WHMs where all but 6 are using Profane

[gaunt star]

is antitower spam still the best way for bitter memories?

[brisk quail]

That's a weird way to spell "Essence of the Templar"

[north fulcrum]

Aint profane the strongest for healer?

[sterile moat]

yea

120% on deep

[north fulcrum]

!action essence of the Templar

[lusty shadow]

**Essence of the Templar** : lvl 0 WHM SCH AST (0.0 second cooldown)(Instant cast time)

Increases defense by 50%, maximum HP by 45%, and damage dealt by 60%.
Effect ends upon reuse.
Cannot be used with other Essence or Deep Essence actions.

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[brisk quail]

Just use deep templar

[north fulcrum]

That would be good on the tanks

[brisk quail]

!action deep essence of the templar

[lusty shadow]

**Deep Essence of the Templar** : lvl 0 WHM SCH AST (0.0 second cooldown)(Instant cast time)

Increases defense by 60%, maximum HP by 54%, and damage dealt by 72%.
Effect ends upon reuse.
Cannot be used with other Essence or Deep Essence actions.

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[sterile moat]

even aetherweaver is stronger than templar

you don't take a lot of dmg

[north fulcrum]

Well wait there’s an even stronger one for tankiness

[sterile moat]

so the extra healing and tankiness is bad

veteran

veteran is the tanky one for healers

[north fulcrum]

Well if it’s 48 healers they’d be taking tank busters unless you’re just gonna let them die and rez

[brisk quail]

Veteran is pure tank

[brisk quail]

Templar is dps tank

[sterile moat]

you need veteran to eat the tankbusters and live

don't ask me why i know that

[north fulcrum]

If I’m tanking I usually use bloodsucker

LOL

Oof

[viscid monolith]

SOMEONE QUICK DO I NEED DISPEL FOR THE PYROMANCER DUEL

[north fulcrum]

I’m a bit sad they didn’t call it Vampyr considering those are a thing in Ivalice

[brisk quail]

I think its reflect mana.

Leme check

[north fulcrum]

Oh you so dead son

[brisk quail]

Required Lost Acions: Manawall, Resistance Medkit x3/Esuna

Highly Recommend: Swift

[soft gyro]

it's happening, finally https://img.thaun.dev/r1puc.png

[viscid monolith]

I died to Backdraft

[odd yoke]

Just dont fuck up splits

[sterile moat]

but yea average run

[odd yoke]

Backdraft is a strong knockback that can't be anti knockbacked

[viscid monolith]

So I have to be in the center?

[odd yoke]

Yes, close to the tornado

And be knocked to a corner

You can get decently close

We dont know if you can stand directly in it, dont think anyone is willing to give up their duel for it

[viscid monolith]

And the wall negates reraise which is fucking cheap

[odd yoke]

Goes through res immunity

[viscid monolith]

Doesn't matter anyway because I didn't have anti poison

And I assume the poison does 20k or something ridiculous

[odd yoke]

60k actually

On a tank

Esuna and antidotes work which they sell in base

And bards paeon

I have sets for all 3 duels

In the vain hope

[slim egret]

does castrum give good exp for alt classes

[viscid monolith]

I don't think it gives any xp

[maiden lodge]

I don't even know if it gives xp, I can't actually test it

All my jobs are 80

[odd yoke]

Its primarily for gear and OP fragments

[maiden lodge]

And fun

CLL is heckin fun

[dim sigil]

It is until you are the team that is supposed to go top and then your game decides to lag and constantly DC

[sterile moat]

get better net

[dim sigil]

That would be nice if it works fine like 99% of the time it just decided to died on me right then at the worst possible moment

[rain onyx]

The hardest part of CLL is the first boss(es)

[soft gyro]

its like a noob/count check

[odd yoke]

Truth

"can you divide your current parties in half"

[soft gyro]

also, there seems like the fate does not sync

less people to not take the damage at bottom

so, less people = more likely to bottom to wipe

but, there is no such requirement in top?

since the drill has a durability

[odd yoke]

Only bottom needs a set number, enough to take the charges

Top is just dps

To kill the core when it spawns

And boss

[wet crown]

The "enrage" is also very forgiving.

[soft gyro]

yeah, but the real enrage is not

[wet crown]

It's 1:00 to 1:30 mins before the Giant Armor drops

oh but there is a hard enrage

supposedly, you can death the armor but there's also a missile barrage after

[lilac crest]

@sterile moat how do you setup ACT where you only see your party’s dps?

[maiden lodge]

I mean if you can't kill top and bottom before real enrage that group should not be in there, tbh

[soft gyro]

gg cleard it

[lilac crest]

Grata

Now you have to clear it 200 times again

[maiden lodge]

Noice

Enjoy the story

Don't skip cutscene

[soft gyro]

skips

[maiden lodge]

but but that song plays shit goes down

[soft gyro]

huh, where did i get my previous 10 bozjan coins

[sterile moat]

@sterile moat how do you setup ACT where you only see your party’s dps?
@lilac crest

on the settings for xiv plugins

[maiden lodge]

Previous attempts at CLL

You still get coins even if you don't make it all the way through

Just so long as you make it far enough to get chests

[soft gyro]

uh, ive never gotten that far to chests before

[maiden lodge]

Have you gotten past top and bottom before?

[soft gyro]

or was it gold chest + normal chest?

[maiden lodge]

Cause that's all you need to get one chest

[odd yoke]

You get 20 minimum + 1 per prisoner

[soft gyro]

wait, i need to pick up from prisoners too?

[maiden lodge]

Saving prisoners gives you more chests at the end of that section

[sterile moat]

you get +1 chest per prisoner saved

[maiden lodge]

That's why there's multiple chests rather than one

[sterile moat]

they appear around the chest after the 2nd boss

[soft gyro]

i saw 5 chests after 2nd boss

[maiden lodge]

That's where they are

Yeah, that's how.

So prisoner saved=get chest later

It'd be awful if everyone had to get a personal chest at each jail room

[soft gyro]

lmao wtf is with these numbers https://img.thaun.dev/rs1w2.png

[lime igloo]

those items can drop from the castrum

[agile otter]

The upgrades drop from CLL

[lime igloo]

and are tradeable

[soft gyro]

they cost ALOT

[lime igloo]

you're not really meant to be using the coins, it's just a failsafe

[soft gyro]

failsafe?

[lime igloo]

in case you can't get them to drop

[soft gyro]

for 999 runs

[next quarry]

Like the trade in for mounts in EXs

[lime igloo]

the marketboard prices will go down anyway

[north fulcrum]

The item also drops in the raid

[lime igloo]

most people don't need Haste

[soft gyro]

is that all that is differ? https://img.thaun.dev/7fqaq.png

it does not even have any dmg boosts or anything

just haste

[next quarry]

Yep

[lime igloo]

yep

there will probably be another armor set in future judging by Eureka but it won't require this set to be augmented or anything

[soft gyro]

how good is the haste anyway

[lime igloo]

it's a .02 reduction in recast times per point

[maiden lodge]

Haste is literally the only way you can change your stats in bozja

[lime igloo]

if you get all 10 haste from the armor and the earring, it's a full .2 reduction

[maiden lodge]

There is only one stat that counts there--it's haste. Everything else is normalized and rendered equal.

[soft gyro]

a .2 reduction in recast times :/

[gaunt star]

having to get the earrings from gridania when ur in a big group is not poggers

[maiden lodge]

So, when people say 'don't need haste', there isn't another option to get better gear in there. You can't even have a different build.

[lime igloo]

that's actually a lot

believe it or not

it might not sound like a lot, but 2.41 feels very different from 2.21

for example

[odd yoke]

Yeah but fucks over rotation and stuff

[lime igloo]

unless you're a tank or a black mage

...well, not Gunbreaker I guess.

[soft gyro]

idk how it would be for me as a rdm

[maiden lodge]

10 haste is the equivalent of 2970 spell/skill speed on gear

[north fulcrum]

It’s huge

Considering it’s tertiary

[lime igloo]

anyway most people won't want Haste cause of the rotational aspect so I do expect those augment items to plummet in price once more people get access to them

[north fulcrum]

But it’s going to mess with a lot of standard shit

[lime igloo]

(I want them because I'm a DRK and I like going fast )

[maiden lodge]

No, they will want haste because of rotational shit

[north fulcrum]

It’ll be invaluable for hitting your SkS cap

[maiden lodge]

Because

[soft gyro]

yeah, only if more people started doing castrum

[maiden lodge]

haste in bozja is the ONLY way to get your sks cap

[north fulcrum]

Bro it’s run allllll day

[maiden lodge]

because your sks stats don't matter

[north fulcrum]

Lemme see how many groups we got going right now

[lime igloo]

most people don't want all five pieces tho

like

the earring is probably enough

tbh

and that's way easier to get

[north fulcrum]

3 groups running it right now in the discord

Usually more

4-6

All day

[maiden lodge]

The other thing is most people eschew sks because another stat is better

The situation changes when there's no other stat

[north fulcrum]

Yep. This lets you optimize better

[gaunt star]

tbf ur in different servers

[north fulcrum]

Yeah but I’m sure there are TONS of people doing it if he joins their discord

It’s just people go into instances randomly and expect people to want to do castrum

Most of us are there for r15 or farming

[maiden lodge]

I mean, you can set up a party in advance

and that increases your odds greatly

[north fulcrum]

Yep. That’s why we have the discord

[maiden lodge]

PF exists

and yeah the discord

[north fulcrum]

Guaranteed group going in. No luck

[soft gyro]

well, that depends if you can get everyone in the same instance

[north fulcrum]

We usually only go with 4 groups

It surprisingly hasn’t been as bad as it was with eureka

Used to take a lot of attempts

But we get in 1-2

[sterile moat]

castrum is easy

[soft gyro]

yeah, castrum wasnt that hard in the end, but it's hard to get started

[sterile moat]

you don't really need discord for it as long you have 8 people that know what they're doing

[north fulcrum]

Castrum itself isn’t hard but I don’t want to take chances with not getting an instance that wants to run it

[sterile moat]

lyon check is everything

[north fulcrum]

Plus it’s nice to just be like

Yeah I’ll do a run at x time

[sterile moat]

6 dps failing the dps check though

[north fulcrum]

So I know when it’s going to happen

[sterile moat]

[north fulcrum]

Give or take 30m

[shell merlin]

I love when nobody wants to do castrum

[soft gyro]

yeah idk why people are so turned off by castrum

[nocturne void]

people don't like the mettle loss

I guess

[north fulcrum]

It’s pretty hard to die in there

It’s more dangerous outside with people pulling Smok into AOE lol

[soft gyro]

i probably died like 10 times in my first castrum run

cause ofc i wasnt reading a guide

[north fulcrum]

I only died once luckily. I misjudged the distance the feathers moved

And we still killed Lyon so fast with my weakness lol

[soft gyro]

i did not know that the fire meant don't move, and i thought it was a big aoe

so i just went back, and died, cause i moved

[gaunt star]

I keep dying at the start of the last boss

[north fulcrum]

Oh any time I see fire now I assume don’t move

[gaunt star]

cuz I get distracted by how fat my opener is

[north fulcrum]

I’ve just become used to pyretic being in every raid

[gaunt star]

I tried the cd reset logo incidentally and I don't think it's as good as noble even on drk

[soft gyro]

well, once i got all the elements to know what mecs they do, it was pretty fun to see how it worked out

[gaunt star]

last night we wiped on second boss cuz we got fire+earth

[north fulcrum]

Lmao

[brisk quail]

I’ve just become used to pyretic being in every raid

If Pyretic and Blizzard 3 don't exist as mechanics its not a real raid

[soft gyro]

what mecs are earth?

earth is the spread?

[brisk quail]

In general or in castrum

[nocturne void]

circles

[soft gyro]

castrum

[north fulcrum]

Circle AOE that moves outwards

[brisk quail]

General it's earth shakers.

In Castrum it the circle aoe that moves out

[north fulcrum]

So with pyretic either you have to dodge fast if fire is second or need to stand at the far edge if fire is first

To let it wear off in time

Or just be a tank

[brisk quail]

Hallowed Ground

[sterile moat]

you don't need to be fast

just be in the last circle

then go into mid

[north fulcrum]

If fire is second I just stand on the edge of the first and scoot in

[brisk quail]

Last raids that had pyretic and Blizzard freeze mechanics.

1. Yes

[north fulcrum]

But yeah I guess you can just chill out

My favorite “pyretic” is still extreme caution or stillness

Just YEET

And if it’s stillness it’s 4 yeets

[viscid monolith]

Today was craaaaaaap

[north fulcrum]

Already??

[viscid monolith]

3 chances at a duel and I blew all 3

[north fulcrum]

Aww

[viscid monolith]

The first time wasn't my fault

[north fulcrum]

Hey man you got practice that’s what matters

[viscid monolith]

Some clown baited the meteors into the safe spots

Then I got clipped by a meteor

[north fulcrum]

I love dragging AOE mobs into the audience during 1v1

[viscid monolith]

Made it into the Pyromancer duel but didn't know what to do.

[soft gyro]

the game hates me

patriot vs fires of war in a nutshell https://img.thaun.dev/p56nf.gif

[wet crown]

fires of war is annoying

[sterile moat]

that's people q'ing for both

i do the same

[soft gyro]

yeah, but you are guaranteed to get the one at the bottom, unless its filled

[sterile moat]

i got fires of war more often

[tropic frigate]

i thought people just pick patriot games because it has more mettle to start with than fires of war

[half phoenix]

Patriot is just easier

The main gimmick is to just watch the laser cannons and stand in the safe spots.

No running around minimizing bomb damage, or comets, or dps race for a safe place to stand for the area wide aoe spam

[wet crown]

wait a second...can't you use lost steelsting to buff the requiscat window?

!action requiscat

[lusty shadow]

**Requiescat** : lvl 68 PLD (60.0 second cooldown)(Instant cast time)

Deals unaspected damage with a potency of 150. Potency increases up to 550 as MP nears maximum.
Additional Effect: Increases attack magic and healing magic potency by 50% if current MP is at 80% or higher , and allows spells to be cast immediately Duration: 12s

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[wet crown]

Hmmm...

[rain onyx]

!action lost steelsing

[lusty shadow]

**Lost Steelsting** : lvl 0 PLD MNK WAR DRG BRD WHM BLM SMN SCH NIN MCH DRK AST SAM RDM GNB DNC (2.5 second cooldown)(2.5 second base cast time)

Grants the effect of Lost Steelsting to self or target ally.
Lost Steelsting Effect: All attacks deal physical damage. However, all bonuses to damage dealt are determined by the attack's base damage type.
Duration: 300s
Effect cannot be stacked with Lost Spellforge.

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[rain onyx]

[odd yoke]

"all bonuses to damage sre determined by base damage type"

So no

[heavy crane]

Finally got a Castrum clear

I hope this gets more consistent as time goes on

[wet crown]

that's unfortunate

[rain onyx]

I wish Lost Focus worked on spells

Why even give it to the mages

[half phoenix]

Any interest in running it again or nah?

[heavy crane]

Yeah I'll be running it whever it pops up if I'm in Bozja

[wet crown]

tbh, stings are really unnecessary in current content

you might as well wait and see what Delebrum Reginae has to make it worthwhile

even Banish is better

[rain onyx]

Isn’t matching the enemy’s weakness like a 30% damage boost?

[odd yoke]

Its a 5min 30% damage buff

[half phoenix]

I wouldn’t be surprised if Delebrum doesn’t allow lost actions

[wet crown]

that would be stupid

[odd yoke]

BA allowed it

And Delerum is Ba2

[half phoenix]

Yes and no

[maiden lodge]

Steelsting is worth.

[half phoenix]

BA, like Castrum was still in Hydatos

It ate up Hydatos capacity

[maiden lodge]

It's a buff you put on members of your party before a fight that gives a damage boost

[odd yoke]

Castrum is no where near BA

Delerum is literally called Project BA2

[wet crown]

savage is

[half phoenix]

Delebrum is going to be its own queueable instance, with the savage having role restrictions

[maiden lodge]

Yeah Castrum is more 'we can't get BA2 done in time but here's a taste'

And I'm down for a taste

[half phoenix]

So, since Delebrum won’t be in a Bozja zone, odds are Lost actions won’t work

[odd yoke]

They never said that

[agile otter]

Delebrum is probably the location that Save the Queen is found NE of area 2.

[half phoenix]

Never said it won’t be in a bozja zone?

[odd yoke]

No

We dont know where it is

[half phoenix]

Yes, let’s split the 72 person instance capacity between 3 entirely separate areas -_-

[odd yoke]

Who even says they'll spawn together

[maiden lodge]

We already know it's got two modes, and the first is queued for normally using duty finder

[odd yoke]

Maybe it spawns after clearing castrum

[maiden lodge]

And assuming it wouldn't have lost actions is pepega

[half phoenix]

And if it takes longer than an hour to clear, like Castrum is taking right now?

[odd yoke]

Castrum already extends your timer if you go in with less

[maiden lodge]

Yeah

[half phoenix]

Not that

[maiden lodge]

Also castrum shouldn't take an hour to clear

[odd yoke]

Again, we dont know how it workd

We can only speculate

[maiden lodge]

We're told enough though

[half phoenix]

One in one of my instances did last night

[odd yoke]

But everyone, including devs are calling it BA 2

[half phoenix]

Ended 65 minutes after entry stopped

So if Delebrum takes longer than an hour, and shares instance capacity, that’s over an hour of people unable to do castrum

[maiden lodge]

And if it's a BA2, lost actions and bozjan bonuses apply

[half phoenix]

No

[maiden lodge]

Delebrum is a seperate instance you queue for

[half phoenix]

Because BA took place in a Eureka zone, Hydatos

[odd yoke]

Who is bringing what actions

It literally says it

Right there

[maiden lodge]

Like seriously, Yoshi P says they'll be in there

[next quarry]

The 24 man will be like a normal alliance raid and savage will be like BA then

[maiden lodge]

It's not speculation, we're literally told it

Yeah but both will be 'Bozja' meaning your actions and shit apply

[next quarry]

Yea

[maiden lodge]

The intent is not to make 'another alliance raid' it's to make a normal-tier BA.

[next quarry]

What does the name mean btw

[odd yoke]

And we can just que for it, so maybe its just available all the time

[next quarry]

Has anyone figured it out

[maiden lodge]

Temple of the Queen

[next quarry]

Oh

Ohhh

[maiden lodge]

Yeah

Like, we know where it's going

[soft gyro]

so many https://img.thaun.dev/xoplw.png

10 coins if you save everyone

[tropic frigate]

i noticed each fragment seem to be exclusive to each number of total prisoners too

caprice needing level 15 to appraise

and its the 6th prisoner you save

[maiden lodge]

Hrm

Is that over multiple tries?

[marsh osprey]

u can only fail or do the prisoner phase

not redo it

[maiden lodge]

I mean over multiple CLL runs

I'm just verifying

[heavy crane]

Is buying with coins the only way to get the augment materials?

[soft gyro]

no, you have to do CLL's

or buy them with gil at the mb

[uncut tide]

The augmented drop should have increased chances when you save more prisoners

[heavy crane]

They can be bought on the marketboard, eh

Don't even wanna know how much

[wary pond]

u get increased chance

by more chests

[wet crown]

I read Dabog's entry.

[heavy crane]

Yeah my groups haven't been able to coordiante that part at all

[wet crown]

I feel so sad now

[wary pond]

i have yet to see a grp save all 6

[wet crown]

I actually did that today

[soft gyro]

we just did

[wary pond]

its always 4-5

[shrewd grove]

if everyone has death its really easy to kill the door guardians

[heavy crane]

So what's the requirement for the haste effect? A full set of augmented?

[wary pond]

each piece have haste

[rain onyx]

Each piece has haste on their own

[gaunt star]

I saved all 6 in a group of 22

ppl just need to split into light parties

[wary pond]

yeah 4 ppl are enough

[heavy crane]

Ah I see it now

So the augmented versions, the only difference is the haste effect? Looks like the base gear can be dyed

[tribal plinth]

yep

[wet crown]

Someone got MNK down to 1.5X seconds

[tribal plinth]

The Castrum gear is also synced so only reason to use it is for haste

[heavy crane]

Something to slowly work on, I guess

[soft gyro]

very slowly work

[heavy crane]

Gonna be silly if it only works in Bozja

[wet crown]

you can get augmentation parts from CLL chests

[soft gyro]

it only works on bozja

[heavy crane]

And not whatever they have planned next

[tribal plinth]

The haste effect? Yeah it's Bozja only

[wet crown]

the vendor is just there as a pity system

[wary pond]

so i fucked up and died to gabriel missiles at last 15%

ppl went apeshit on why u didnt use reraising

i was like

its straight up cheating

[gaunt star]

Vendor is pity system but the caches are rare af

[wet crown]

🚮

[tribal plinth]

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I mean it's not cheating if it's available in the game

[soft gyro]

^

[marsh osprey]

70%

rng cheating

[tribal plinth]

cheating would be noclipping out of bounds and then killing the boss from under the map

[marsh osprey]

[soft gyro]

they designed the grind around bozja, why should using bozja items on bozja fates be cheating

[wet crown]

In a fight that requires skills that most jobs don't have access to, you think it's cheating to use reraise?

[heavy crane]

I'll probably just get my rank maxed out and call it except for leveling jobs

Not gonna farm Castrum just so I can be better at farming Castrum

[wet crown]

Did you also forego the tank action?

[wary pond]

tank action?

[rain onyx]

!action lost manawall

[lusty shadow]

**Lost Manawall** : lvl 0 PLD MNK WAR DRG BRD WHM BLM SMN SCH NIN MCH DRK AST SAM RDM GNB DNC (360.0 second cooldown)(Instant cast time)

Temporarily applies Heavy to self, while reducing damage taken by 90% and nullifying most knockback and draw-in effects.
Duration: 6s

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[wet crown]

yes that

[rain onyx]

You need this to beat Gabriel’s fight

[wary pond]

i mean that is not survivable without it

[wet crown]

you can just go in as a tank

then you'd have no reason to cheat the fight as a non-tank

[wary pond]

reraising give u another shot if you fuck up dodgable mech

[wet crown]

[wary pond]

2 different things

[soft gyro]

same as reflect

[wet crown]

there's no cheating in a fight that's stacked against you in the first place

[wary pond]

just git gud

[wet crown]

yes

[wary pond]

which also should have been said to me

for fucking up missiles

but going apeshit and say

damn u use reraising next time shitter is like lolwut?

[slim egret]

I rolled the gabriel mount a second time :D

[wet crown]

whyyyy

[wary pond]

lemme touch your hand

i cant fkn get it

[slim egret]

You can buy it from me for 2.5 mil

[wary pond]

no

i have to be lucky

[sterile moat]

you can touch mine since i got 2 too

[wary pond]

also yes this is comes from someone who beaten all 3 duels

but fuck cruise missiles

i hated that mech since O7S

[slim egret]

Which ones the hardest dual in ur opinion?

I haven't touched any yet

[wary pond]

lyon

hands down

[odd yoke]

Def lyon

[rain onyx]

Fire guy looks kinda forgiving

As in you can get hit by some of his stuff and not insta-die

[wary pond]

blm is only scary during tornado phases

otherwise he is whatever

and only 2nd and 3rd flashover

cause u got 1 safespot

[sterile moat]

291 coins and still no upgrade drops

[wary pond]

if for whatever reason safespot is in other edge

[sterile moat]

[wary pond]

you are fucked mostly

[rain onyx]

I want to try him out but I somehow don’t have medikits yet

[wary pond]

unless u got swift

[slim egret]

Do the upgrade materials from castrum sell on mb

[wet crown]

I think they do

[rain onyx]

Yes you can sell the augment item

[slim egret]

[cyan pecan]

https://youtu.be/0lBPDAc-3NI

everyone in bozja rn

[slim egret]

Red chcobos are scary

[wary pond]

just 1st time

its whatever after

[slim egret]

You'll still have 70% of the alliance dying to it

[tribal plinth]

spams lost reflect and lost arise

[wary pond]

have essence of beast or bloodsucker

and u can solo it

[wet crown]

"It's like the fall of Dalamud all over again!"

[tribal plinth]

The best part is that a chocobo meteor falls when the CE spawns

[wet crown]

it's even funnier that the IVth dislikes them just as much as the resistance

[wary pond]

what makes lyon hard is he changes his order of mechanics at everytime u fight him

you thought im doing 1 quake and exaflares?

no im doing 2 now with a slash too

[slim egret]

What does beast or blood sucker do

[wary pond]

heal u 25% of your dmg

[brisk quail]

Beast: def up hp drain

Bloodsucker: damage up hp drain

[tribal plinth]

Lifesteal on all attacks

[rain onyx]

Beast being for DPS and bloodsucker for tanks

[slim egret]

That's neat

[brisk quail]

PLD: I'm already a healer. I don't need no bloodsucker

WAR:

https://tenor.com/view/tmnt-cowabunga-it-is-michaelangelo-teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-gif-15971163

[wary pond]

i think the dmg u take in duels

is more than war self heals can cover

me think

healers are better pick up for duels cause their cds are more than just enough to cover duels healing

[odd yoke]

I covered Lyons damage fine with Beast

On mch

[wary pond]

plus they dont have a rotation

[slim egret]

Take whm and just glare spam the entire time

[wary pond]

just spam that 1 skill

[slim egret]

You don't have to focus on healing others so you can focus on the mechanics more

[wary pond]

im saying war self heals alone

@odd yoke

nascent flash and equilbruim

without bloodsucker/beast

[odd yoke]

I mean it should be fine

[brisk quail]

Mfw PLD can't equip the heal lost actions or essences

Sad.

[uncut tide]

PLD can use lost cure 4 right

And arise

Arise is great for carrying pubs

[sterile moat]

the skills are role based

if a tank can, all can

[rain onyx]

Yep, and they can use the healing boost essence

!action essence of the savior

[lusty shadow]

**Essence of the Savior** : lvl 0 PLD MNK WAR DRG BRD BLM SMN NIN MCH DRK SAM RDM GNB DNC (0.0 second cooldown)(Instant cast time)

Increases healing potency by 60%.
Effect ends upon reuse.
Cannot be used with other Essence or Deep Essence actions.

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[sterile moat]

no BLU on caster actions

[north fulcrum]

smh

[uncut tide]

!action lost arise

[lusty shadow]

**Lost Arise** : lvl 0 PLD WAR WHM SCH DRK AST GNB (2.5 second cooldown)(3.0 second base cast time)

Restores 100% of target's HP, even if target is KO'd.
If the target was weakened at the time of Raise, the weakness effect will be removed.

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[uncut tide]

Arise restores 100% MP too right

[sterile moat]

yes

it's good to throw at healers and RDMs when a lot of people die

that's what i used to do with it

[uncut tide]

Yeah that's why I brought 5 sets during my day 2 clear

[sterile moat]

what i do now for castrum is take spellforge, swap to death for prisoners then steelsting for the 2nd boss then swap again to death

not a lot of people die now so arise isn't that great

healer actions are kind of meh too

[rain onyx]

My current setup as a healer is bravery + spell for first, death over spell for prisoners, steel over death for 2nd boss, and then arise or not bother changing for Lyon

Depends on how good the group is

[heavy crane]

The fight with Lyon is 100% scripted isn't it?

[brisk quail]

Solemn Clarity banner is the shit

[sterile moat]

lost font of magic is so heavy

😩

[brisk quail]

!action Banner of Solemn Clarity

[lusty shadow]

**Banner of Solemn Clarity** : lvl 0 PLD MNK WAR DRG BRD WHM BLM SMN SCH NIN MCH DRK AST SAM RDM GNB DNC (180.0 second cooldown)(Instant cast time)

Storm the field under the Banner of Solemn Clarity, periodically gaining additional stacks, up to a maximum of 4.
Duration: 30s
Effect ends upon using another action or moving (including facing a different direction).
Cancels auto-attack upon execution.
At maximum stacks, take up the Banner of Limitless Grace.
Banner of Limitless Grace Effect: Increases healing potency by 50% while reducing MP cost
Duration: 120s
Can only be executed while in combat.
Effect cannot be stacked with other Banner actions.

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[random anvil]

no moving

[brisk quail]

You gotta stand still for like... 5 seconds

[sterile moat]

time for memes

[random anvil]

for a heal 1.5x heal

[wet crown]

"storm the field"

my ass

[brisk quail]

No no no...

Reduce MP cost

BLM, DRK?

[random anvil]

oh wait 200% heal

oh wait nvm

[wet crown]

....hmmm? DRK

well BLM can just use watcher and auto-ether for endless despair = fire IV spam

[brisk quail]

Press Banner.

Wait...

Spam shit.

[random anvil]

oh it lasts 2 minutes

[heavy crane]

How much mp reduction we talking

[random anvil]

beefy bloodbath; save me some beast essences i guess

[rain onyx]

34 despairs in a row

[lilac crest]

castrum chest rng gives me the big sad

what the fuck

I just want an augment

[sterile moat]

ok

so

i stacked

deep ordained

asylum

temperance

[lilac crest]

imagine the healing

100k heal

[sterile moat]

and banner of solemn clarity

[lilac crest]

crit

shit maybe even more

[sterile moat]

solace

crit

[lilac crest]

lmao

who needs bene anyway

[sterile moat]

also you only don't have to move for a few seconds

the banner of limitless grace stays

[heady shadow]

bruh

[brisk quail]

the banner of limitless grace stays

Yeah. When stacking you cant move. After you can

[heady shadow]

this castrum has the idle music from the first level of ffxii

when your rex

[wet crown]

I got music from the last chest but forgot what it was

[uncut tide]

!action lost font of magic

[lusty shadow]

**Lost Font of Magic** : lvl 0 WHM BLM SMN SCH AST RDM (120.0 second cooldown)(Instant cast time)

Increases damage dealt by 70%, draining MP while in use.
Duration: 30s
Spirit of the Veteran Effect: Grants Spell Shield to self
Spell Shield Effect: Reduces magic damage taken by 50%
Duration: 15s
Can only be executed while in combat.

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[sterile moat]

yea that skill is thicc

[wet crown]

BLM with Despair build can abuse this

though it will probably eat through your stash

since it would proc the kit a lot more

[next quarry]

Breathtaker + Magic Font + Auto Ether

[wet crown]

I will call it Auto-Despair

because if the kit's effect ends, you will despair, too

[sterile moat]

misery with aetherweaver + banner of honor sacrifice + bravery + lost font

non crit

and fucking hell lost font does eat up mp

eureka version is better

cause it increases mp costs

so you can cheese it with thin air

[wet crown]

Yupp. Auto-Despair is the best name

[sterile moat]

non crit glares with all buffs are hilarious

trying to get a misery crit before this bravery runs off

WHY WON'T YOU CRIT?

assize dmg

still 0 crits

[wet crown]

are all the banners so shit

!action banner of...
ahh fuck

[sterile moat]

the one that negates healing seems usable

[lusty shadow]

Error!

Action not found, Kupo!

[sterile moat]

imo

cause you can use it when you don't need to heal

[rain onyx]

Yeah noble ends is the safest option

When you don’t need to be healed, specifically.

[wet crown]

the evasion one is the nichest one because evading something is technically 100% dmg reduction

[sterile moat]

that's a misery

[shy flax]

misery good

[wet crown]

not Eureka levels of dmg, yet but damn

[sterile moat]

but yea lost font not worth on whm

too heavy and it literally drops you to 0mp

banner of honor sacrifice kind of works

but you might lose dmg to gcd healing

[wet crown]

!action banner of honed acuity

[lusty shadow]

**Banner of Honed Acuity** : lvl 0 PLD MNK WAR DRG BRD WHM BLM SMN SCH NIN MCH DRK AST SAM RDM GNB DNC (180.0 second cooldown)(Instant cast time)

Storm the field under the Banner of Honed Acuity, gaining additional stacks each time an attack is evaded, up to a maximum of 3.
Banner of Honed Acuity Effect: Increases damage taken by 10% per stack
Duration: 120s
At maximum stacks, take up the Banner of Transcendent Finesse.
Banner of Transcendent Finesse Effect: Increases critical hit rate by 30% and reduces weaponskill cast time and recast time, spell cast time and recast time, and auto-attack delay by 20%
Duration: 180s
Can only be executed while in combat.
Effect cannot be stacked with other Banner actions.

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[shy flax]

gcd healing on WHM is a net gain on DPS with 3 or more enemies iirc

up to a point anyway

[wet crown]

okay, this might be a niche option for field soloing and tanking

[gaunt star]

I ran sacrifice with profane and wasted a ton of time healing myself

xd

it's decent when u have bene up tho

[rain onyx]

Profane is pretty meme tier

[wet crown]

well, that is if the acuity effect immidiately ends and finesse starts

[topaz dune]

plenty of gil to be made donig bozja

[rain onyx]

Only 20% more damage than Aetherweaver but you’re a shitty healer now

[topaz dune]

letting the millions flood in

helps with housing decorating too

[marsh osprey]

@sterile moat no blu on caster actions?

imagine blu with

120% extra damage

[wet crown]

anyone tried yet to be a healer tank with insense with the urgh...tank essense?

[marsh osprey]

and 70% reduced healing

yes

you aint a tank

but you can tank far more aoes and not die

[wet crown]

!action lost insense

[rain onyx]

I’d rather use Templar for the defense/damage hybrid

[lusty shadow]

**Lost Incense** : lvl 0 MNK DRG BRD WHM BLM SMN SCH NIN MCH AST SAM RDM DNC (20.0 second cooldown)(Instant cast time)

Gesture threateningly, placing yourself at the top of a target's enmity list.
Additional Effect: Enmity generation is increased and damage taken is reduced by 20%
Duration: 20s

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[rain onyx]

Instead of whatever the pure tank essence is for healers

[wet crown]

that's a built-in tank mastery

[marsh osprey]

theres a deep essence for healers

that makes u literally

a tank

[rain onyx]

There’s a deep essence of every normal essence

[wet crown]

!action deep essense of the templar

[lusty shadow]

**Deep Essence of the Templar** : lvl 0 WHM SCH AST (0.0 second cooldown)(Instant cast time)

Increases defense by 60%, maximum HP by 54%, and damage dealt by 72%.
Effect ends upon reuse.
Cannot be used with other Essence or Deep Essence actions.

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[marsh osprey]

yeah that one

[rain onyx]

!action essence of the Templar

[lusty shadow]

**Essence of the Templar** : lvl 0 WHM SCH AST (0.0 second cooldown)(Instant cast time)

Increases defense by 50%, maximum HP by 45%, and damage dealt by 60%.
Effect ends upon reuse.
Cannot be used with other Essence or Deep Essence actions.

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[rain onyx]

Pretty nice increase

[marsh osprey]

essence of the templar is unironically the best one

[wet crown]

that with insense should make any healer tanky and self-sufficent

[rain onyx]

Yeah I use it for Castrum runs

[marsh osprey]

if you want to speedkill theres aetherweaver too

[rain onyx]

I like Templar more for the safety

[marsh osprey]

and one that gives you 120% dps

[wet crown]

you just hold aggro with your own heals while everyone goes to town with dmg

[maiden lodge]

For solo grinds I prefer aetherweaver plus a defensive banner

[marsh osprey]

i used the 15k mp potion

when i cleared castrum first time

infinite rezzes

[rain onyx]

RDM+Ether Kit+Breathtaker = raise slave

[sterile moat]

EDGY AS FUCK

fucking act copy paste

[lilac crest]

all I feel is pain

so much coins

no augments

meanwhile

I know someone who has 3

and saw a random tank who had a full fucking set

I'm not even using it

I'm just going to sell it

[sterile moat]

you can bet there's someone who bought it all

[lilac crest]

I have no need for haste

[wet crown]

yes, there is someone on light with the full augmented tank set

[lilac crest]

why would you ever want to waste

so much money

for fucking skill speed

thats literally all it does

[wet crown]

because it's a permanent dmg increase

[lilac crest]

yeah but in bozja?

[sterile moat]

i mean

[lilac crest]

where it like kinda doesnt matter

[sterile moat]

i could buy it

[lilac crest]

since 48 people

[sterile moat]

but it's like, eh

[lilac crest]

aye if I get it buy it from me

[sterile moat]

i learned my lesson to not waste money on early eureka

[lilac crest]

I'm close to 500 coins

[uncut tide]

Might matter in the 48 man savage

[lilac crest]

oh right

when was that

wasnt that in 5.3

[sterile moat]

oh yea

fun fact

[lilac crest]

5.4

[uncut tide]

Also if they have a billion gil might as well spend some

[lilac crest]

I'm still selling mine

lmaoooo

[sterile moat]

presence of mind comes out of cd right when the bottom boss goes invulnerable for the top mechanic

[lilac crest]

I'll worry about getting haste

when I dont see my name on act anymore

if I can still see it

thats means I'm still good

what was the name of the upgrade thing again?

Imma look at the market

and see how much they going for right now

[uncut tide]

Runners secrets or something

[sterile moat]

just look for bozja

you'll find them

last i checked they were like 4mil for hat/gloves/shoes and 6 for body/pants

[sterile moat]

memes

banner of noble ends

[rain onyx]

The power of a WHM with Aetherweaver

It’s beautiful

[sterile moat]

that's the 2nd boss

i died on the 1st cause i got aggro from assize misery banner opener

[wary pond]

!action lost font of skill

[sterile moat]

i also got aggro on the final boss with it

[lusty shadow]

**Lost Font of Skill** : lvl 0 PLD MNK WAR DRG BRD WHM BLM SMN SCH NIN MCH DRK AST SAM RDM GNB DNC (300.0 second cooldown)(Instant cast time)

Resets the recast timer for most actions and role actions.

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[sterile moat]

i should use that

for double PoM

[wary pond]

HGtwice

[sterile moat]

next time i join a discord run i'm going to use every dps meme tool

[next quarry]

How do you find the order of the turrets in metal fox chaos

[lilac crest]

me parsing castrum again

[wary pond]

@next quarry depends on action used

[lilac crest]

its whatever gets hit @next quarry

[wary pond]

if cleave laser it goes clockwise or counter clockwise

[lilac crest]

the turrets proc other turrets

[wary pond]

laser shower
the turrets who have circle aoe shoot 1st

satallite laser all shoot together

find safespot

[sterile moat]

How do you find the order of the turrets in metal fox chaos
@next quarry if the beam shoots out and hits a turret

[next quarry]

I see

[sterile moat]

they're firing next

it's basically a reflect

[next quarry]

Ohh

I'm sorry

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dainslief is cheap

[wary pond]

whats ur secret

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[wary pond]

seriously

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gabriel tho

[next quarry]

It's my 4th Gabriel

[wary pond]

why i cant fkn get it

[lilac crest]

goes for a mil

O

Ok

listen here

what's your secret

what the fuck

I have 100 prisms now

[prisma vine]

i got a gabriel while it was still like 4mil on my server

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after I got my first gabriel

[prisma vine]

feelsgoodman

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I got mine when it was 5 mil

But I used it

cause I wanted the clout