#retired-patch-6-3-discussion
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Are there anymore conditions to Castrol spawning than having 8 players who are rank 10?
it spawns once every hour
now im rank 15
i play the afk game
til criticals pop
or castrum in instances with 40+ r10
wee time to go to WW1 again
im burnt out
just got the x10 achievement for CLL
._.
at first i thought "Hey this shit is the coolest shit ive seen in a while"
then....I did it again, was ok, then again.....
then....
I got out of the tornado phase of pyro
im so tired
ive just been making wall planters for the last few days man
oh i guess that technically counts as advertisement
whatever
server connection lost in the middle of a CE
D:

I lost connection on light as well
did datacenter die?
oh, guess everyone did
i was mid fkn flash over

well that sucks
rip gaem
Thankfully i finished my pyros duel
Kekw
back in que
I've found a wall that needs the lost actions
Bio 4
Hard hitting attack that does strong Poison dot and heavy, both cleanable
KekW
idk if his transformation can be dispelled
I tried manawall but too late
Well for bios
Dots do damage based on what you take
So it would reduce the dot damage
To manageable
On initial lookover
Ofc obvious and initial answer was Poison resistance but that feels too rng
Cleanse pots do seem another way
Reflect is questionable
woah... need to remember its still 3 days since patch day XD
Yeah but reflect says "most actions"
Im hesitant but optimistic
what are aoes?
Yeah thats fine...im questionable in duels inxase they added something for them
bruuuu
To avoid cheesecake
is there a better action to use to increase your healer HP other than stoneskin while using Ordained?
well im in eu?
Can you reflect anything in CLL
Im curious
Dont wanna try since im R14 but
I wonder if anything can be reflected there
Esp like Adrammalech
u can reflect the 2nd boss
Am I allowed to talk about story here or is that too much spoilers
Can you reflect stop mechanic?
stop?
idk
I forgot the thing its called
i never seen single fire
so far
saw thunder water ice earth
but fire feels either rare
or ppl lying about it

im joking
but yea never saw fire
Here we do ET: Eorzean Time
we do it on duty timer
Pyretux
O duty timer
Pyretic
Ye there ya go pyretic
pull when 27 mins left on timer etc
Right right i think thats better tbh
But i guess it makes communication with non jp speakers easier
Since everyone knows what ET means
Vs. Typing out "timer" in japanese
i need noobs instance
to get in lyon
suddenly alot of ppl became good at red chocos


its funny how
i know the guy
who posted this
we farmed together
in that spot
yesterday
Is it that good for clusters?
i got 130 in 2 hours
I wonder how cheap Construct 14 will be once people focus less on Mettle/CEs and more on cluster farming
You get clusters really fast if your farming them with the group I went from like 20 to nearly 80 just farming with the group for a bit
Do u guys think the augmented will be bis for the 48 man on 5.45
Well the augmented only gives you haste and no other stats, so unless you have a speed tier to hit: no
The other stats it has aren't active in bojza
I play blm so I'm thinking it would be really useful for me
Since rn my spell speed is dramatically slowed down
It’s more that substats are preset in bozja
Because my MCH in bozja has a GCD below 2.5 even though none of my gear has SkS
anyone know what higher mettle is for?
tanks
Higher ranks
ranks
Ranking up, if you’re not at 15 yet
beyond 10
I got some forgotten items that I can't open from castrum
oooh
You need higher ranks
u get fragments
so appraisal?
They selling for 50k a piece on mb
that are very powerful
many ppl will clear castrums soon
and will tank in price
maybe outside caprice
cause caprice need u save all prisoners
oh ya can u gain more mettle even after rank 15
How should I go about cluster farming? Just nuking mobs like normal?
What would you need mettle for at 15
finding a group and just aoeing mobs down
Also good to split the group up into two groups of four attack in different mods you will get clusters really fast
better drop mount price
Unfortunately nobody seems to really want to farm clusters I've had a couple groups but now that it's hard I can't find anyone
this is weird, I was kicked out as PLD but my character is set on WHM
uff, login queue started at 927
@dim sigil Does the split up method work with all drops? Like Dying memories?
Yes
yes
it's really not
Ok then I'll get a group together with my FC
People got it in their head early that HW fates were better
It splitting up and farming is the most efficient way
We only have the glowing weapons stage right now right once you get all the tortured memories that's it for the weapon at the moment
would the general public even figure out the cluster farming thing
cause i can see just selling that mount for 5 mil over and over again till they find out
lmao
I tried to set up more cluster Farms but nobody wants to
people are dumb
try to make party for either rank 3 or 5 and.... well i was back farming solo

whats ifg mean
looking for group
arigato
wheres the new 5.35 armor from
not even rank 10 and I feel dead inside
whats lfm
I never understood that one
Is it true though each gear piece costs 1K coins and you get like 40 coins per run
Where can i obtain bitter memories in the field?
Once an hour starting from first instance start
Damage
just put it in your house/apartment
i have 5 of them
and i plan to get more
to make my army

Ima keep 1 just to have 1
or give the rest to your friends
nice
Are there specific mobs on Bozja that drop different memories?
oh
Fragments are the ones you appraise?
yep
you can make a lot of money with them rn
cause people havent really figured out the dungeon yet
or theyre lazy idk
I'll probably keep mine
I'm really happy they're tradable
Well logos were so its not really surprising
Are there specific mobs on Bozja that drop different memories?
@gloomy shale
Well, Freeze isn't quite right. Normal enemies drop one type, Undead and Elementals another, and Star-ranks a third. As well, there's ones that drop in CEs in the third zone that I believe are different from the above--the banners if I recall.
the ending to castrum made my heart sink
how dare square endear me to these characters via character logs
Cleared castrum 100% pug no comms
feels good
Only saved 2 prisoners tho 
Ending castrum spoilers: ||misija is a bitch||
yeah i like her as an antagonist
Hello yes here, I'm the proletariat who got fucked by aristocrats
time to blow shit up
Fuck yeah
That's awesome
I think 3? With one section being a giant room with several hallways to clear out
The bottom one the top one then a final boss right?
Goes bottom to top
So the bosses are the hard part?
Hmm
Its getting the splits right
Is it like 24 man difficulty or something 
The mechanics themselves arent that bad
Closer to an easier extreme
Yeah its harder
It’s slightly harder than a 24 man
48 man makes it easier tho right
More than 24man cause getting hit by something can potentially kill you
But easier than extreme
Requires some amount of coordination
Remember how day one 24 mans are like wipefests
Also are the dudes that get enthralled at the end the same as the dudes that help you during the fates
just slightly easier than BA?
Much easier since there's no traps
And can raise whenever
Dude I joined a random castrum last night
And we couldn't get past the first boss lmao
rip
I needa see the upstairs boss before I can say I know all of CLL,
did the dps party of last boss tho,
I did read a guide on the eureka discord,
sounds like Ferdiad orbs?
Ferdiad Hollow, Dun Scaith
And mt gulg second boss
Sometimes they cross up and move around
And sometimes they do an A3 magnetism
Yee, Ferdiad could teleport his with Atomos, so had to keep track of where donuts ended up
or run the fuck out if both aoe
Helldiver is mostly, healing tbh. esp if solo soaks
Yee, fairly typical mechs
The only thing not really telegraphed or seen before is the boss's body telegraph
Just get behind the arm
And remember to switch target to the core when it appears
I could still die on boss 2 if I tried, but it dies so quick compared to helldiver/brionac and lyon birb
So far I'm on uhhh,
3 wipes to Helldiver, bc no one engaged Brionac,
and 2 wipes on Dawon,
from 2 full clears
...and 3 attempts with ~5 people 
but no wipes on Adrammelech, v straight forward,
esp if you respect pyretic.
...I wanna do more CLL for the gear set 
I'm the healer I'm the only person who absolutely has to,
I've never had a full pug party respect pyretic in SoS
can rez all the dumbies
yeah, there's normal mode pyretics that tick for like 8k per movement
then extreme pyres
that go for 40k :>
but we're all oGCD whores, so
3 ticks instant
are the dudes that get enthralled at the end the same as the dudes that help you during the fates
Monks in Bozja:
Monks in Bozja after earring: 
Monks in Bozja after full augment set: 
My GCD is now 0
@maiden lodge what ones drop bitter mems, any lvl 1?
Incidentally that gif is what lost swift looks like
Why are we fighting over ruins again
uh
Incidentally that gif is what lost swift looks like
Lost swift. Aka: get the fuck outta there
Do you get story quests all the way up to rank 15?
cause we inspire dalmasca to rise up to
Why are we fighting over ruins again
@dim sigil A record of afghanistan, 4000 BC-current day
I've got all the areas unlocked and just wanna grind mettle until I can do all the rest of the quests at once, but not sure where that'll put me.
cause we inspire dalmasca to rise up to
Ravage an entire landscape, killing anything that moves in the pursuit of memeories and aether containing fragments of souls to smash into our weapons to make em shiny
We are good guys
WoL, this is the 632nd doblyn you've killed.
i need MORE POTIONS
I need to find a full refresher because I don't remember anything about this story
builds big satellite dish
Music by The Blue Grass Boys: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uC7S__7ftSE
Sound effects by freesound.org
Comic relief by the good people of Sargatanas server.
DISCLAMER: THIS IS NOT A GUIDE! This is just a record for posterity of some ridiculousness that happened, and that I...
Meteor comes down and destroys most of bozja
yes.
Skip a bit
Our adventures in doma inspire outlying provinces to fight the empire
Bozja rises up
dalmasca is also at stake
Sword of the south is a lame title for beating those duels
skip to here
Just give us the title of Big Boss
does castrum scale?
in theory yes
like if u have 48 ppl, its harder
No it doesnt
it doesn't?
you need AT LEAST 25 people
It's very barely doable with 21 people, some have done it but with alot of struggling
It's not made for less than 30 people, realistically
We almost won but timer ran out
ur prolly not gonna pug well with 21 people
but i can see a group coordinating a run with 21 perople
*people
Koji
It's always Koji
There's a fate called "Do you think plants can bloom on the battlefield?" which is a reference to MGS1
"Do you think love can bloom on the battlefield?"
Honestly Castrum clears arent gonna be consistant until the weekend when most people will be ranked up
I still fucking laugh at the level 80 GNB quest
Just literally called [GUNS OF THE PATRIOTS]
koji is fucking terrifying
There's an achievement I believe called "This is Snake" in reference to that beast tribe of snake people
Bozjan: yooo doma and stuff did that shit... we can do it too!
Garleans: but don't you remember when we did that really bad thing a while back
Bozja: kinda not really
Garleans: okay. You do that. Imma take the resources of the land as you fight the war
Bozjans: fuck. Okay. Imma fight really hard now
Garleans: pfft. But you can only have a spoonful of resistance... You can't beat u- wait. What is that?
Bozjans: pulls out a comically large spoon.
Garlean: that's still not gonna beat u-
Bozjans: pulls our a fishing rod with a shiny sword tied onto it.
Garlean: that's... warrior of light bait...
Bozjans: indeed
if you make an item shiny, we must go get it
If you beat every 1v1 I want a surprise Zenos encounter where he comes to fight WoL on the battlefield with everyone watching.
Zenos: you either get to kill me... or you get this shiny sword
WoL: hnmnngggggghhhhhhhh
Call the Achievement "Zenos came, I conquered"

the eureka discords are doing runs for castrum
which seem to go well most of the time
So how do I start the quest to upgrade the relic, I’m rank 5 but all I’m seeing in gangos is the 2 repeat bale starter quests from Zlatan
Need to pick up the memory quest outside first
Where’s that
in gangos
same guy who gave you the relic
Literally next to bojza entrance
Yeah that’s not showing up for me
I did that but I don’t have the memory quest anywhere
Talk to zilan about the weapon and it shows
gotta have the weapon in your inventory
So not the weapon equipped?
You may have to select resistance is futile first then try to accept it to get it to show. Especially if you havr them all
i just have the weapon in my inventory
@severe brook @subtle pasture here then
crackes knuckles,
||Save the Queen is a primal made of a fallen shrinemaiden who was the last Gunnhildr, a IVth Legion member goes as far to force us to hop into the blade's memory and incept a lot of anger and hatred into it, creating a fiercly powerful, deadly, gorgeous queen primal||
and

i don't understand the shrine maiden part
||still predicting that Misija will eventually merge with the Primal to make the Lady of Blades straight up become Asura||
||so she'd then have multiple faces||
How many tokens do you get per castrium run?
||Gunnhildrs are chosen from the oracles and priestess of Bozja||
20-26 per run,
bosses give 20 total, 1 per freed prisoner in the trash bit
so it's only 5 full clears for an armor set and, um,
||well also, the current queen/gunnhildr couldn't go through with becoming the Lady of Blades||
||so one of her Shrine Maidens did instead||
||but that maiden turned out to have the Echo, and instead of becoming a manipulatable puppet like the Blades had hoped for, she retained control||
I haven't done the math for a traded-in aug set
||Save the Queen is a primal made of a fallen shrinemaiden who was the last Gunnhildr, a IVth Legion member goes as far to force us to hop into the blade's memory and incept a lot of anger and hatred into it, creating a fiercly powerful, deadly,
gorgeousqueen primal||
@subtle pasture thanks. So I should do it... for the sake of lore
||so after she saved Bozja from the Fourth, they killed her to get her out of the way||
Also there's a crapton of lore in the field notes but those're basically collectible cards...
and 3 are behind the duels...
yeah basically everyone with a name gets a short bio
||They killed their own?????? Why???||
which is something i like, i think the should keep doing that
just don't lock them behind gachas/duels
||because they wanted a puppet, and she would've been one if the Primal had overwhelmed her. but she used the Echo to maintain herself||
||i was hoping we could rescue our au ra friend but oh dear looks like its too late ||

||so they killed her because they had no need for a god-queen, only a martyr-savior||
Suddenly Hrothgars sound like real dicks
anyway
Just the old bozjans, really,
So much for being a “good boy” race
there's a big class divide that's also brought up,
Suddenly Hrothgars sound like real dicks.
||Misija.mp4||
nobles wanna stay noble, keep the poor poor.
They’re certain BAD BOYS
there's a big class divide that's also brought up,
@subtle pasture oh what? That’s some juicy lore I see
"oh man I hope this isn't Ishgard 2.0"
||Misija is also very, very likely a decendant of the shrine maiden||
I mean it would make sense tho, || because those who support and protect the shrine maiden would be ostracised to some capacity ||
||yeah her anger is a mix of what was done to her ancestor and what was done to her||
Fuck hrothgars
do bozjan critical engagements scale with the number of people in them?
Aye, they do
FINALLY got to castrum
fuck hrothgars, all my homies hate hrothgars
||It's highly likely she'll arm herself with StQ and become Gunnhildr. While StQ is the primal, think of this like Zantetsuken and Odin. The weapon is the primal.||
only 18 people
well okay to be serious
Me, a hroth rper: 
Bajsaljen is sincere
Bozja is wild, though, it's so...
really cool
and i don't think all of them are dicks like this
like we even saw that not all of the nobles were hrothgar
they're not racist though
with the bit with the soldiers
||is Mikoto dead/in danger...?||
Final Fantasy XIV: Conservatism Is Bad
||so there was essentially two queens? Queen Gunhilder and the actual Queen of Bozja?||
--cough
||Mikoto is alive||
I hear a but coming
||well Queen Gunnhildr was the queen, but she didn't use Save the Queen to become Lady of Blades||
||Queen Gunnhildr used a doppelgänger because she couldn't use the powers of the sword||
||no, Gunnhildr is the queen of Bozja, but it's more a spiritual position, the last true one was afraid to become the LoB so they made a sacrifice do it instead||
ah okok ty
well, "true" isn't a good word there, but it works well enough
its kinda weird doing this when I am doing the GNB questline lmao
Final Fantasy XIV: Conservatism Is Bad
||The interview cutscene was basically this||
"well you see the queen was actually horrible"
it isn't entirely black and white
Well there were many good gunnhildrs
just not that one
and, okay, tbf
||her blades did the dirty work||
she was definitely a bitch and her blades filthy shit
idk. More Femroes in bikinis in cutscense 
||but they did so with the intention to bring peace||
i mean that one might have still been good for most of her life
well
actually she would've had to be at least oblivious considering what bozja was like
||but she wasn't willing to kill herself and be subsumed by a god, even for the sake of her people. which is understandable, even if it's not the right action considering.||
||That Save the Queen's vessel died thinking she wasn't worthy, but was still at peace with Bozja living on...
||
Can we just ||nuke all of|| Bozja again? Just get it over with.
|| So could it be the Gunhildr and her ancestor are the fake priestess and descendants of the conspirators who killed the original priestess||
||No moral dilemmas if everything is ash/crystal||
Don't project what happened in the past on the present
|| So could it be the Gunhildr and her ancestor are the fake priestess and descendants of the conspirators who killed the original priestess||
@cyan pecan oh my
it feels like the leaders of the Resistance and the modern Blades are sincere, at least
||As I had mentioned, the Blades were also the aristocracy and upper class of Bozja, giving the title of Gunnhildr to a lowly shrinemaiden is what they feared more. A turn in power that would displace them||
oh they are
So this is all rank 10 stuff?
i do have faith that they'd do their best to prevent the mistakes of the past from returning
|| So could it be the Gunhildr and her ancestor are the fake priestess and descendants of the conspirators who killed the original priestess||
||FFXV ARDYN'S BACKSTORY... BUT AGAIN||
:gasp:
yes, all after you clear CLL
Thank you
it's really a torrent of awesome cutscenes
so thenn..... ||the blades are just another group of assholes eh?||
really well
and I'm sure I know what one of the next zones could be
||Dalmasca||
||The old Blades who served that last Gunnhildr, aye||
ours are fine, I luv them.
...except Isolde's voice
WAH HWAHHHHH
yeah the new ones are cool
I honestly don't even want to do Isolde's skirmishes
it helps when they're chosen for merit and being suitable people, instead of just being nobles given the position because
I do bc I assume there's a Dyunbu card
GIVE ME YOUR CARD YOU MEDIC HIPPIE
Are there quests all the way up to 15 or do they stop at some point?
||shame they'll probably be encounters to fight in future bozja content, huh?||
I need like 1 more card I can get outside the duels
10 is the final quest,
awesome, thanks.
Else, get your CLL clears eventually, it marks the end of Chapter the Second,
Kinda wanna just grind and do the rest of the quests at once, so that's only two levels, not bad.
so deffo required for Chapter the Third and Delubrum
11-15 just let you ||identify more fragments you get from castrum||
|| It could be that the Blades are actually the conspirators to killing of the original shrine maiden, and their descendants pass on the title of Gunhildr like hot potato while trying to sweep the events under the rug. Meanwhile the descendants and supporters of the true shrine maiden were purposely displace and spread out, to prevent from a possible rebellion ||
can you continue gaining mettle after 15 tho
So you can be ahead whenever they raise If they raise the max which probably they will
soneone was at 704k mettle so
So you can be ahead whenever they raise If they raise the max which probably they will
Pleeaaasseee no.
||Oh, good point. that shrinemaiden was pulled from the Votyasch tribe, which is incredibly impoverished in this era, and probably was back then as well||
I mean like there's got to be another zone or two or something I don't know
Starting preset in there would work
It would make sense as to why there’s an actual class divide in Ilsabard in the first place
They'll probably make you complete this level first just to give it another bump of activity.

||Though, @cyan pecan , we know Gunnhildr's reign ended with that shrinemaiden, as she's told to be the last Gunnhildr.||
Though I bet they'll only require up to 10 to access the new area.
||well they had to cover up both the queen's weakness and their own actions||
...Hrothgar queen shit still confuses me.
Well since rank only affects where you can go and not your stats I guess 10 could work
||So they just keep saying that the queen died when she became the Lady of Blades||
Maybe they're like bees.
And if your 15 you just get a little boost ahead
i honestly was expecting that to be the twist with hrothgar
And the Queen is the Queen because she lays all the eggs.
Are they like the other cats and they have the breeding leader in charge
I just wanna know Radovan and Rostik's surnames to learn what the hell clan they belong to,
bc the bozjans all have diff names in the field notes
||So they just keep saying that the queen died when she became the Lady of Blades||
@severe brook || It’s surprisingly a common tactic, and I would not be surprise||
The other cats don't typically have a 'breeding leader' in charge, assuming you're talking about Suncats and Nunhs.
Ulgasch, Apella, Azetina, and Alubov are all Bozjan families,
Yeah I remember something about that that they have a breeding male
It's just...those two tribes...who are the only in-game examples...despite directly contradicting the lorebook lore...>.<
and Azetina is... Doman??
||hrothgar's come from eggs. Confirmed||
Nope, Bozjan too
riots
Which means a dead Queen Ulga and Svana, and a living Pella, Zetina, and Lubov
--I missed Svanasch, whoops
||hrothgar's come from eggs. Confirmed||
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Yeah, Seekers of the Sun have males who earn the right to breed. According to the lore book it should be multiple per tribe, one per 20-50 women, but again in-game it seems to be only one per tribe x_x
the vigrin vs chad miqote
||The Votyasch are from the Third Astral, so Votya's been dead a long ass time||
|| Wait do Hrotgars actually hatch from eggs??||
...like how old must Pella, Zetina, and Lubov be, then???
Probably we won't have any idea about Hroth until we get a lore book 3 for them to completely ignore with in-game stuff x_x
--no they're mammals,
The the last queen gunhyldr wasn’t a hrothgar?
No that was a joke Lyn.
None of the playable races are from eggs even Dragon people
This is a minor one so I won't block it-
Although I don't think there's anything saying that they don't come from eggs
Gunnhildr isn't specifically hrothgar or non, they ust made up most of bozja
so stastically she was usually hroth
sooo
It would make sense tho
It was mostly a joke because the whole 'females are very rare' makes zero sense for mammals.
So wtf is the deal with Hrothgar queen?

SE done fucked up with their dumb ass lore
So maybe the plot twist is they look like mammals but actually they're bugs.
At this point it'd be easier to assume it's a clan matriarch thing
like the founding mother of a family or tribe
But if a Gunhildr is usually a Hrotgar, if there’s a chance a non-hrotgar becoming a Gunhildr, wouldn’t they become the sole breeding female of Hrotgars???

'sole breeding female' makes negative sense.
You literally could not maintain a population that way assuming they work like other humanoid races and have mostly one kid at a time with occasional twins+
The Queen is basically a pope.
Not a breeding queen or a whatever
Else, we know from prior Bozja lore that the original Gunnhildr united the various clans and tribes that lived in the region,
Not a president or whatever
Even if girls were 1 in 10 births it would be hard to imagine how they'd keep their numbers up.
But more a figure head
but "Gunnhildr" itself is a title for the queens, not specifically her name
I see I see
it's funny how we knew about Bozja for years and only recently its like oh ya it just happens to be full of Ronso
Yeah basically,
I know it's just a stupid thing they threw in to excuse not making the models, but this really bothers me.
Didn't they not invent guns but they started calling hand Cannon guns because of all of that
And swords with no guns
rather,
And guns with no swords
Like it was a similar function
Ok so...
The era where there’s a male Viera is where I would use Fantasia OwO
I had a group of 36 players
That's always the dumbest lore
who could kick the hellhound
but couldnt kill brionac
When we got helldiver to 50%
brionac was still at 76
:V
in the meantime Nimbus strikes us down once Brionac is down
and oof
whoops
I don't think we need a big team for helldiver
but is brionac that hard to kill?
Brionac deffo needs the stronger team, bot side is mostly a heal check tbh
healing between tethers and aoes and soaks...
but each of my CLL clears we killed Helldiver with Brionac at 20+
so lotttts of adds lmao
Oh ouch
and we still killed both
heck
brionac was killed faster
than helldiver
not sure what happened in the 36 man
Me (bottom MT): hey guys. How's top doing, helldiver at 20%
Top: ...
Bottom: Guys?!
Top: it's going okay... ish...
Bottom: what's that mean?!
Top: well we nearly wiped so he's at like 74%
Nah
then why the hell were the 3 parties on top having more trouble kill him
I've heard bottom is harder
Top is just move close. Move far. Avoid donuts.
bottom requires more heals though
Bottom is, body block robots. Trade tethers. Dodge big aoes. Aim cannons toward sides
you're forced to get hit
Fuck off old man
@nocturne void this is the same guy who publicly executes you for playing redchoctober well.

"Please look forward to the next Pokemon i send to go die at your hands"
Wait until the plot twist that he's actually secretly a Manderville.
garleville man
Mandervilles are behind the empire
mandervilles are ascians
hildibrand was not a joke storyline, but really an ascian plot
Nah, he's the black sheep of the family and left to join the Empire after losing a fight with Godbert.
To get stronger.
Wait until the plot twist that he's actually secretly a Manderville.
The secrect 3rd Mandeville uncle
Who forsook the family name after the fall of daladmud
In the pursuit of power
Wait, there's two Manderville uncles?
So like we're not getting hildibrand so what if the relic quest is actually a part of the hildibrand questline 
doing castrum is actually stupid when another boss spawns first
people dont think ahead
You only got 1 min to join it
@slim egret if you join a boss before hand and join you get stuck in it
casturm ended up with 10/48 cause choctober was 48/48
So like we're not getting hildibrand so what if the relic quest is actually a part of the hildibrand questline
- He's in the first.
- How would he be incorporated
- He (should still) be in the first.
Hildebrand family quests
I was making a joke because of how the villain looks
Hildebrand lore OwO
he is tan ||ranjit||

they went to Xvi not the first calling it now
Oh God no
Until they find JOSHUA
.....
FINAL FANTASY JOSHUA
Honestly tho
No Hildebrand 16 crossover
Xviooks very similar to xiv, I wouldn't be surprised if they're in the same world but different time line
Not on the first he was summoned there as a spirit of sorts but he is somewhere on another shard
Im gonna say this. ||people who actually think 16 is part of xiv is grasping at straws so much I would rather believe Hildibrand was in the Void.||
Most likely the source still
Oh no
I mean Hildebrand is in a different reflection at this rate
What if Hildebrand is the Anna of FF16
Technically hildi is in the void if that's what Greg uses to travel here too
Scree let people dream and be wrong so i can laught at them later
and then them call it shitty becaiuse its not xiv? yeah...no lol
xD

'gilgamesh took them to another dimension' turns out it was just across the ruby sea we just never bothered to look hard
it's a price i'm willing to pay
I will like xvi no matter what if it's a good game
@maiden lodge sounds about right

Imean
you'll get your wish
since people probably are taking people like ethys seriously
so..
I'll get the popcorn
Wait. Can we summon the primal Hildebrand using Eden?
i'll bring the drink

Eden verse confirmed in xvi
Just verse though
which is sad because i know some people are joking but...people be dumb
Thancred+Urianger Leave the first
WoL: now I can make any boss I want
I'm joking around lol
I wonder, what’s the lore for Brionac and Gabriel in FF14
You're being a killjoy Scree
I got a biography for one of the garleans who was ||made to pilot the super mechs that the garleans made||
It doesn't matter where Hildebrand is or where people think he is, he's a gag character from a gag sidequest.
He'll show up wherever the devs think it would be funniest for him to show up.
And just explain it with something ridiculous
I will miss you Gigi

We need hilde to aid us in our relic quest
isnt gigi with us at all times
Hmm?
i just made a comparison since you know, people will crystalize in purple shit in the void
Hi I’m Daisy
perfection
man that ending to castrum just hs me conflicted on where we're going next from here in bozja
I still haven't gotten into castrum
man that ending to castrum just hs me conflicted on where we're going next from here in bozja
A murder spree for more shiny weapons?
bc I just cba to go into bozja now
tbf I'm not sure if its in the appropriate channel then?
Bozja has enough going on in the story to be apart of the MSQ.
truee just how are we going to free the blades at this point and could it be related to the new BA-esque content they announced for 5.4?
This isn't Baldesion Arsenal enough? Peoplw have a hard enough time not climbing the ladder and trying to split the party up

I think the visual of the swords piercing the Blades may be important to un-tempering them in some way. That they are being actively tempered by something inside of them, rather than permanently tempered from here on out
Me: okay guys. We're gonna need to split the party int-
Everyone: LADDER
possibly the scions might get involvd
This isn't Baldesion Arsenal enough? Peoplw have a hard enough time not climbing the ladder and trying to split the party up
@brisk quail NO
that was a nightmare already
Gunnhildr gives off the vibes of being a primal. But dying and then having your spirit time travel to the future complicates it a bit.
Reflect plus Spellforge is op
The quest, For Want of a Memory... do different locations provide different types of memories?
I seem to only be obtaining one type at my current location
Yes
You have to visit multiple locations for each in HW areas.
Bottom zone is one.
Middle is another.
Top is a third.
Otherwise. Grind HW Fates
Because HW fates and their areas have similar splits
yeah honestly I hope we can find a way to untemper them all before the next area
otherwise we're a little screwed in the firepower department
@brisk quail When you say zone, do you mean different maps or different portions of the maps?
Zones
In Bozja each area/that you earn via rank is a new memory type
Tortured = Coerthas western highlands and sea of clouds.
Sorrowful = Dravanian forelands and churning mists.
Harrowing = Dravanian hinterlands and azys lla.
Fate drops are 100% for gold.
Meanwhile this is the split for HW areas
Oh, I'm grinding fates which is why I didnt understand
Memories in Bozja is any kills (at a chance duh)
So any kills in the south area drop sorrow
Any kills in the central section drops another... ect
Thank you!
Nice
Also mettle does not affect your stats either
So that I-rank will always be a joke. That V-rank will always impact your colon.
one thing i'd diss with bozja
so many named characters
so little time
only about when i cleared CLL i felt i was to grips with it all
You have that field note collection though
most of the named characters feel more like side stories you occasionally interact with, like the Blades
yeah, i guess
but i can understand how it'd feel overwhelming
it was just a ton of names thrown at my face at speed
So you're saying I can wear level 1 gear
WE FINISHEDS
WITH LESS THAN A MINUTE
WE WIPED LIKE 3-4 TIMES
started the final boss at like 8.5 minutes left
HOLY FUCK
Enjoy the rest of the story.
You would love LUCT, @faint dagger

You get like three to four new names of minor characters per chapter
...luct?
And then said minor character gets blown up immediately
Tactics Ogre: Let Us Cling Together
Matsuno also wrote it
I don't recommend reading the character entries for LUCT though

It's very depressing
your making me want to actually get in that place now
was matsuno responsible for the bad average story of FF12
Or was it written after he was off the project

but my ps4 is acting weird
That ending to Castrum Lacus Lactorie
WoL 4 seconds later: welp. I'm off to collect more souls for my shiny weapon
Well, his original plan was to have Basch be the MC
So I assume a bunch of it got rewritten to make Vaan and Penelo relevant
well, at least vaan
Well, his original plan was to have Basch be the MC
That's a weird way to spell balthier
Can and panelo is the shitiest thing happened in xii
hey
Like why are they even there
balthier isnt even in this content
Japan
I already expected from start the start when I saw them using resistance relic
Like you know how much shit I go through for that weapon and you wave it around like it's some cheap weapon
Balthier Main Character











