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if no randoms
they all queue french or something and get in the same instance as each other
easily beat with 30 players
Do you get allagory from the place?
probs
and a majority of them will get into CLL without randoms
Yes
Some allegory, not much though
Crystal datacenter's main BA discord beat castrum yesterday
if crystal can do it...
I dunno why but this bozja doesn't really draw me in
im pretty sure only 32 can go in
Nope
So guys what are the rewards for clearing Castrum Lucas?
its 48 @scenic vigil
@signal minnow Bozjan Coins
thats why it sucks
You can clear with 24
why the fuck would you go in with only 4 people
24 people on top of their game


delay the the assault until enough people join
Blind
@unreal wadi what is it used for?
I also think that not enough people in Bozja are making use of Lost actions
There are some really nice stuff
gear
There's a difference Between people with skirmisher/martialist/aetherweaver and people without
so what's the best way to farm potions?
on the other hand
Even then, Lost Slash and the like are a great tool too
@unreal wadi thank you so much
I got 350k+ with Lost Slash and focus
Cure IV is strong
yeah was lucky group
!action Lost Cure IV
21,700 potency
And its off global
how do you get a organized group into one instance
Cure 2/4 are off global heals
their strategy was to set all their languages to french on the duty finder
Queuing as friench or JP in an NA instance
Its clearable with low amount of players, 28 is fine and we were all blind.. Not really using actions. Dying alot and 2 wipes last boss cleared with 5mins left
kawa you are just rude
thats about it
you ahve to get a 24 man organized group, have to be lucky to get all into one instance, yeah content is goood
my ass
looking back on a clip i managed to find, it didn't have the tank dying but...
holy shit, it hit the tank hard
you went madmode when i said lucky group, maybe just dont be too serious about it
get fucked
I think SE tried making it so that organized groups weren't required for the content
perhaps its not required
so was this ground zero where bahmaunt blew stuff up?
but it's still an option and in my opinion, one foolish not to take
It's bad but not nearly as bad as I was thinking it was
no, bun
no
cartenau is where bahamut did its thing
No
Or is this just like the outer edge
would be nice if aoe heals and buffs affected everyone without needing to be in a group in critical engagements
They mean the citadel
Or damage wasn't bad but still bad
From Memoria
red chocobo is hell but fun
When they tried calling down Dalamud, it backfired and the entire area blew
that makes red chocobo easy peazy
i think it lasts for 6 seconds
Reflect
and deflects magic dmg
!item List Reflect
I mean
!action lost reflect
Creates a barrier around self or party member that reflects most magic attacks.
Duration: 10s
Spirit of the Guardian Effect: Duration is increased to 30s
!action manawall
goign to bozja
!action Lost Manawall
so i still have to farm earlier points in bozja to get aetherweavers, martialists etc
Would you guys like a
Tortured memory of dying?
?
I need to farm for skirmishers
Either you get one when you beat Red Comet, or you get one when you wipe to Red Comet--but that second one is not useful.
red chocobo was ez
How much damage does he take?
Not much, the important part is you take 0 damage
I see
Like 30k or something per reflect
Honestly, 200k is a drop in the bucket for 48man bosses
reflect just lets you pretty much ignore comet damage
How do I open the lockboxes?
Take them to the locksmith
the lock box npc
He's on your left as you're coming down the ramp
I'm waiting till I have at least make 100 boxes and then I'm going to do them
left and forward
People are using reflect for the red choco CE?
cool thanks ya'll
i'm not really getting lost actions in high enough volume to use them much at all
Ditto, I'm just hoarding them for Castrum
thats what it feels like i have to do too
I like how the lost actions are used
None of the CEs are hard enough to bother popping anything imo
it also seems that if you're in a party and your whole party doesnt attend the star mob, that you wont get any fragments from it
I'm going to be going out and smacking mobs when I get back in to BSF
So I'll have more actions to play with
so you should leave party before participating in a star mob if your party is not attending with you
the tank potion on healers is godlike
veteran?
suddenly u dont die by one hit
theyre fun STONE SKIN
But whats hitting you on a healer that you need the tank pot in the first place?
i'd rather have aetherweaver but i dont have any
But whats hitting you on a healer that you need the tank pot in the first place?
@lament breach
where my potions at
im saving aetherweaver for next castrum at least
I mean there's also
or maybe i should use the heal and mp one
'Using lost actions means you can go from soloing Is or IIs to IIIs or IVs
I have 14 aetherweavers, I think I can use a few
Like, you ARE going after mobs, right?
I have painful memories of having to farm expensive logos for healer on BA. Hoarding for Castrum+whatever comes next feels like the correct decision
Aetherweaver and Veteran are super common though
those are just so god
Irregular is dangerous
Gotta be really careful with that
It's a shame HW FATEs are so efficient for relics though. Gonna have to do that at some point zzz
Hoping SE buffs the drop rate in Bojza soon
idk they probably catered to casuals that dont wanna do bozja
I'm gonna do some tests
@next quarry where the fucc you getting em for
another atma grind wouldnt have gone well
What
from*
Irregular?
whered you get all those aetherweavers
They're from one of the things you get in the first area
that shit is like good drugs
every fragment is some kind of banner ability now
They're from Fragments of Skill
Literally just wail on those mobs right outside the door
dont you only get stuff from CEs and stuff

No, Kawa.
and from skirmishes
You get -Mettle- from CEs and Skirmishes
you're not supposed to kill regular enemies
NO
no reward
NOOOOO
no point
Crystals, Lost Actions, and even the relic weapon drops come from REGULAR ENEMIES
such as
Literally -everything-.
only thing that doenst drop from normal mobs believe is Mettle
Yeah, you use Skirmishes and CEs for mettle, and to grind items you smack mobs
So you do fates to level up, regular mobs to get stuff.
Normal Enemies in the first zone, rank 2/3 drop skill
which no one does and then they wonder why they don't get drops
Even rank 1s can drop skill
Get a party up and you can get a whole stack of skill
Since everyone shares the drops iirc
But 2s are your best if you don't have something up, 3s if you do
yeah
get a party, don't even need to be working on the same thing
Yeah the -mobs- matter in Bozja. It's not Eureka, get off the mettle train if you want not-mettle things
It's good to balance mettle grinding and fragment grinds
what is max rank rn
15
15
Which is funny cause they made it sound like mobs weren't important
A good idea is to split the party, 4 people farming normal mobs of one type and the other half farming other mobs
Maximum gain tbh
why do enemies rank from 1 to 5 and then start at 1 again
Because ranks on enemies are the difficulty rank
[4:09 AM] Miuna: Y "Even if you kill the little trash mobs we spread around the map, you won't gather mettle"
[4:09 AM] Miuna: Y "So why do we have them? Well, they serve a different purpose"
shouldnt it go to 15 though
1-2 are soloable 3 with some trouble, 4-5 are best with a group and Star is a Skirmish on its own
mobs give you a ton of shit
i dont see why they start over at 1
lol
isn't a 1 in the second area like a 6
No
mettle has no scaling effect at all then? doesn't make us stronger in any form?
Rank doesn't change stats at all
A rank 15 is as strong as a rank 1
then there's no point raising it
Mettle only determines the size of your loadout, and what you've unlocked
It unlocks content
5% enrage gabriel
There is, it unlocks castrum and more actions
There is a point
ugh
no higher than 10 is necessaryt
rank 15 means you dont loose mettle
u lose mettle
basically
15 unlocks special deep essences iirc
yes
even at 15
At lv15 you get Op shit
Because if you don't unlock later areas with mettle, you can't access the later farms/CEs/Skirmishes/items for relic
yeah but at rank 15 mettle lose doesnt matter
And you can hold more in the holdester
And yeah, deep essences
you need mettlefor the next rank
yea i got mimic for caprice just to test stuff
i copied choco meteor
people who don't like eureka won't like this either

Well I disliked most of Eureka, and I like this
Because its differences actually address my problems with eureka
Or, I have legitimate issues with Eureka's progress system that don't apply in Bozja, which in turn doubles down on the positives I did see in Eureka
eureka didn't have progress issues
i used spellforge but im still lacking dps
the only issues it has were that its fates were essentially non-fights
Downsides of Eureka: Mobs don't matter outside of triggering NMs. Elemental system makes Eureka incredibly unfun until you've spent hours grinding levels, by removing your ability to meaningfully participate in content.
That latter one ruined Eureka for me outside of Pyros, which was the first time I got into it because Logos actions
Did ya drink the sippy thingy? @wary pond
maybe cause i play safe at end
For dps*
So, a Eureka which removes those problems but makes logos actions -even better-? Count. Me. In.
I miss some Logos actions
cause he does nothing
And getting around
Brah the mount yesterday was 13 mil now 2 mil
'Just do weeklies' except when you're done them, you're back in the ass
:0
got him to 40% at missiles
but i play too safe after
he almost give me no time to get close to him
after missiles
I think the biggest change is you can actually do this with friends now
Soooo what is it once you hit level cap is mettle useless btw?
not really bun
til lv16
not unless you're all able to access the same amount of map as each other
Is there lvl 16 tho
no
Yes but you can actually help somebody starting out instead of telling them well I can't join you because my level is too high
u can drop to 0 mettle
If you're in a party, you can only access what everyone can access in terms of CEs.
So once i hit 15 ill just eat shit and queue for castrum
still keep the 15
And being 'stuck on the first area' isn't bad because the drops are useful there, you still need those
Sounds like a plan
level 1s can enter a CE happening in the top parts of the map?
Nope.
Cannot
No
so then
Yes
BUT
If you're in a party, you can only access what everyone can access in terms of CEs.
this is false then
u lose 2918 mettle on death at 15
12k on resetting @earnest sedge
If everyone can't access something, you can't in a party.
level 1s can enter a CE happening in the top parts of the map?
Nope.
Maybe it's not perfect but it's a lot more playing with a friend friendly than euerka was
CE's only meaning if you get a memory fragment in area 3 the person in area 1 can get it
sure is
Same with clusters
If person A is rank 10, and person B is rank 3, the party must do what everyone in the party can do
If -everyone- can't access something, then you can't access it.
And fragments
I'm not repeating it again.
that's not what i fucking asked though dude
I'm moving on to my other point
@wary pond how much gain per fate?
Yes it is, read it.
If you have people in area 3 grinding mobs, and people in area 1 grinding mobs, in the same party, area 1 people will get area 3 drops and area 3 people get area 1 drops
^
anybody knows how lost slash works
So, while the group has less CEs to get mettle from (meh), you get more drops.
Aint that just big tenka goken
!action Lost Slash
Delivers an attack with a potency of 800 to all enemies in a cone before you. When critical damage is dealt, potency is tripled.
This action does not share a recast timer with any other actions. Furthermore, the recast timer cannot be affected by other actions.
the only shared drops seem to be crystals though, not fragments
No fragments also
You need to be the right job
i havent seen fragments pop the thing up
Only some job can use it
like crystals do
must be
i have like no first-area fragments and i dont seem to be able to get any more
i killed a star mob and got literally nothing, too
Did you accept the quest?
Lost Slash works with IR
Well, you should try hitting mobs then

Cause it sounds like you're not.
It sounds like you're sticking to the mettle train and expecting non-mettle things.
It's not eureka
yeah my damage is not great
For example awakened frags drop from red chocobos
don't play it like eureka
but no im spending every gcd on malefic iv and keeping up combust, or using gravity if its aoes
This dude's armor looks dumb and cool
Red chocobo killing does not give you mettle
But it can spawn red comet fate trigger
^
Check pins
So if its fragments you want then the mettle train will do jack for you
^^
Same goes if you are in a party
If you are in a party and half of your party is doing frags in area 3 you WILL get area 3 frags
When in fragment parties I ask if I can farm clusters, they usually say sure
Win-win
so is that why everybody leaves party all the time
cause you need to be solo to get fragments?
And if you don't have enough fragments of skill to get aetherweavers AND you're solo, start with rank Is and IIs, and then when you get aetherweavers, do IIIs or IVs
no, they're just not in CEs to do fragment farming
If your party members gain a frag you also gain a frag
Tbh im just gonna get r15 then farm fragments and stuff
i don't see why i didnt get fragments for killing the star mob
Regardless of map distance
Didnt contribute
Lol
Thats all there is to not getting frags on star mob
Sounds like a plan vinyl, get the OP stuff then just farm
For example healer gets 20 frags usually, tank gets 10-15
i showed up at the start, was one of like four people there, didn't heal anyone, every gcd was malefic iv, or refreshing combust
If you dont do shit
that's it
DEATH
You wont get shit
No need for mettle so no need to skirmish other than duels at 15
but i dont have any aetherweaver, so not enough damage?
Or bozes
Aetherweaver is irrelevant to grinding that shit
i showed up at the start, was one of like four people there, didn't heal anyone, every gcd was malefic iv, or refreshing combust
@scenic vigil
@maiden lodge i'm not gonna heal people i'm not in a party with
it's exhausting trying to tell when they need it
Tbh its killable now
And I'm not going to bring a horse to water if it won't drink it
is damage spells not contribution?
Same with reflect, for example in red comet CE you can reflect the meteors :v and absolutely just stand in the middle uptiming your pp off
Not needed
But it helps
im sure healing someone whos not in my party is even less contribution than attacking the monster
Healing is contribution in general
they're not in my party so by healing them im not gaining contribution because their contribution is not my contribution
But stronger essenses will help if people arent that skilled with their job
Why you think healers rip enmity :v
And dont know how to pull dps
If you can't contribute damage because you don't do dps levels of damage, but healers without aetherweaver can get contribution, and there is a path to that contribution, and you're told that path, and you say 'but I don't want to do that' then there's nothing more to be said.
@wary pond thanks so much man
what am i supposed to do
Complain to the wind
people are not forming parties
I don't make the system
Idk how they do it in your datacenter but
I'm just telling you how it works for healers who don't have dps level dps
you really go clicking people who are running around in a fight and healing them?
yes?
Did you ask anyone 'lfg healer for star mob'
lmfao
Yes
Probably a stupid question but do heal bubbles affect people not in your party
If someone is dead on the ground out of your party
Did you let anyone know you needed a group?
You res that person
yes
i was pulling a fate as tank and healer left and there were 7 healers nearby to heal me
nobody did
heal bubbles dont
then the fate went off and killed several healers after i died
Like you're a eureka vet, you know sometimes you have to target outside members during this stuff
quick thinking is required
only really for rezzes
Regardless
in eureka people form up parties and stay in them
only one tank on fate
You have a path to aetherweaver
= heal him
Go. Do it.
in b ozja for some reason people are eager to drop party at every opportunity
Yes people drop parties when CEs are done
because a billion casuals
skirmish ends? disband. ce dies? disband. everything is disband disband disband
its insane
Because... wait for it
on ps4 tho selecting people outside of your party to heal is a pain in the ass and sometimes a literally impossible
i understand if you are on ps4
In JP datacenter we just send ใ
when the purpose for said group is done
a party can join a ce as a party
because its shit
Instant invite
Yeah, but you didn't join it as a party.
your party leader clicks to accept the ce and you all are in queue for it together
I have to put my weapon away to select people out of my party
And not everyone always gets in in the party
Then move my dpad on them
But that's beside the point
But if your group's disbanding, that you formed in the CE you joined a group for the CE
Its prob just DC culture at that point idk what to tell you @scenic vigil parties here are literally "hey i need to farm mettle/cluster"
Guy: "ok here join till everyone stops"
If theres a CE they register
well when i shout for a lfg i get nothing
Yeah, have you tried advertising/joining a group for not-CEs?
Same
Immediate invite
yeah the first thing i did from the first time i entered i looked for party before doing anything
just solo rank to 10
and i still occasionally asked, until i gave up eventually
Crystal things?
then you can lfg for parties easily
Also *you don't need a party anyways&
Irdk what to tell ya
literally go kill Is and IIs
Just skirmish again and again u kno
Zone 3 might be the best place to farm clusters
Maybe
@marsh osprey here its opposite everyone is high already
But regardless, you don't -need- a group
No one does area 1 stuff that much
yeah its crazy
Go. Hunt. Kill skuls.
It helps but you dont "need" one
for me its all casual
Bro 13 in day 2 aint that casual u kno
I'm Rank 10
Need re-clears for savage? Just DR
Yeah
:0
I wanna get more fragments since I Wanna see how high damage I can deal
@next quarry can grind chocobi
360k is my highest
Imagine with Bozjan gear, Aza
@earnest sedge i mean its jp
gotta find an active castrum though
As to not discriminate against other DC Its different
Well, that's triggered by 'enough level 10s'
Its easier to clear content for sure
people in jp were rank 15 day1 because they can get a full player instance to efficiently grind
I came from primal
IR+ Lost Slash is the strongest move in Bozja as far as I know
Language barrier and xenophobia is a thing too u kno
Unless you're lucky with Crits
IR?
Inner Release
O
iirc jp people dont talk
post macro
They do
Lost Slash triples in potency when crit
expect u to do it
So its super nice to know the language
yeah true
you have extra respect as european if you know japanese
Does Bozja gear boost stats
written
Or just haste
No idea what culture is like in EU DC but im sure you guys have gripes about our DC as we do with yours and NA and vice versa ofc ofc
they are way more dedicated than na or eu
Like sure nice to prog and clear stuff here, but harder to make gil for example
Should move this convo to ff discussion ><
As this is unrelated to 5.35 if you dont mind ahaha
Its just people working collectively
literally everyone in bozja instance was lv 15
Im sure u guys have one too

Thats not true
Alot of 10+ but not 15 unless they rigged an instance
Ik NA has a discord for eureka and now bozja community
Same with JP
We also have a discord where we compile stuff we learn etc.
I dont think castrum first clear was JP
Eh no dude we have shitters too
I was so
Fucking close
To getting duel for red choctober
Then my luck
Went to shit
And I got a pretty shitty situation
Whcih made me end up eating 1 meteor
No
You cant get hit
Its not that you dont take damage
You cant get hit at all
To be chosen for duel
Only thing you can get hit by is raidwide
do we know how castrum spawns
once every hour
Mfw we got a castrum spawn.
But only 15 people join
Lol
how many people do you ideally need

the castrum scales with people present
we cleared it with 32
I'd say 36 is reccomended
42 for high chances
Minimum 24man
Mechs in any area
We cleared with 28 with 2 wjpes
any
WAR, but with a group, you can do anything
I lost a run of castrum.
When the big armor spawns at the bottom.
The co-tank provoked it off me and turned it toward the party/battering ram and single-handedly ended the run.
Killing 19 people amd killing the ram
the armor is the enrage
top and bot need to kill both bosses relatively close
or the armor drops and its cleave is an instant death
So it's just art and owain
Btw which mobs drops the clusters for the Healer Pots?
you still have like 1:30 mins or so but still
The second zone yeah?
check the pins
Undead in zone 2? Maybe
undead, sprites
undead are immune to Lost Death

but I guess there has to be a good use for Banish
So far yeah
Death
does the castrum spawn invite all lvl 10+ people in the instance?
@dim sigil like the beasttamer with the bird can be insta killed
ooo
The bird can be instakilled
bosses and undead cannot be death'd
the bird in the CE?
If only we could instantly kill the blue and pink guy
Otherwise someone hit it with the fattest Midaresetugeka+lost boost combo ever seen
bitter memories don't have a limit per day right?
No
guess i'm just really unlucky then
they only have a daily limit if you get em from levelling roulette
otherwise, spam the fuck out of antitower
i heard the hw fates they drop real fast
bitter memories are different
Those donโt drop bitters
Bitters are either bozja or dungeons right
oh does each memeory type drop only in each bozja section then
zone 1 - yellow
zone 2 - blue
zone 3 - red
yeah ok i see now that makes sense not as random as i thought
The Mechs to the left of it is what I farmed
Look around for a better spot
I just followed other people
So... Is RDM the best for duels or something else
And that reminds me, I need to stock up on healing potions x.x
man the star monsters
The first JP clear was WHM
kill tanks with 3 autos
I dont have the mettle gain in my xhat log

!action
!action lost boost
Wat
Focus?
What it called
!action Lost Focus
Grants a stack of Boost, up to a maximum of 16.
Boost Bonus: Increases potency of next weaponskill by 15% per stack
Duration: 30s
Effect ends upon using another lost action.
Shares a recast timer with all other weaponskills and spells.
A focus Midare does about 180k or so
Violence or Prep idk
Ty ty! How to use tho
Press, Build up sen then midare?
Bc it looks like you need to hit smth 16 times
To maximize the effect
Its next weapon skill
So sen then build stacks
Sen then trigger?
Increase potency of the ---- next ---- weaponskill
Right
Get 3 sen.
Press last boost 16 times.
Slap.
Lost Slash + IR + Focus + Irregular
You'll eat that action up pretty fast

You can get three sen.
Join a thing.
Press focus 16 times as timer ticks down
And then slap
I c
!action Lost Slash
Delivers an attack with a potency of 800 to all enemies in a cone before you. When critical damage is dealt, potency is tripled.
This action does not share a recast timer with any other actions. Furthermore, the recast timer cannot be affected by other actions.
It's mainly for Big damage number meme
So where to use it tho
5760 potency with last boost.
5760 potency with last boost.
(Ans a crit duh)
When do i want to delete shit though star mobs?
You already can tho. Lmao
+97% damage as healer with deep essense weave

Wdym?
what is the DPS essence
Idk i didn't get it
Sorry i dont really use DPS on bozja
Hm
I got tank and healer essenses
It's a secrect.
So do explain if you donot mind
I'm not telling
Aw
Does the tank one increase damage
100% damage increase but take 200% more damage
Tanks.
Make you slightly more damage
Make you tankier
Make you super untanky, but make you a red dps.
Make you a dodge tank. But you squish
Reducea hp by 30%
Breathtaker build seems fun.
WHAT
But it looks so squish
That's a better irregular
100% damage increase but take 200% more damage
How to die to raidwides 101
Where's the entrance to Castrum in Bozja btw? Can access the whole map now
It's a CE you join
Veteran: physical defense by 180%, magic defense by 54% and h0 by 72%
Though the menu
Yeah
Wait an hour
BA has Ovni though
Also got Font of lost skill and fony of power
But getting into it is easier
!action Lost Font of power
Increases damage dealt by 30% and critical hit rate by 40%.
Duration: 30s
Spirit of the Irregular Effect: Damage bonus effect is increased to 40%
Spirit of the Platebearer Effect: Grants Solid Shield to self
Solid Shield Effect: Reduces physical damage taken by 50%
Duration: 15s
Can only be executed while in combat.
Ba spawned shortly after a level 60 entered the area
!action Lost Font of skill
Uh oh
You can do some really fucked up damage at rank 15 then?
Im only rank 13
Hallowed Ground go brrr
For the 1v1 in area 3, does reflect work
Though i could do it as healer and use Deep essense weaver
If there's something to reflect i would imagine
Since that guys the magic one
But you probably have those slots taken for mandatory skills
anyone got a screenshot of the resistance caster gear?
All the limited use skills have been pretty useful in the duels
See Manawall, Dispel... ect.
Gabriel doesn't have magic...lyon is seemingly mostly physical though Saburak fire guy might have alot of reflect stuff
Those have literally no use in actual outside fights.
But in the duel they're needed
If i get into Saburak duel I'll take reflect and dispell to see
Oh hmm, you can down-level once past lvl 5? Or once you get a lvl, it's good to go?
Wrong chat
wtf was that
Like lvl 10, drops down to lvl 5 if you die alot?
it looked perverted
You cant rank down in bojza
Oh that's good, just lose all xp for that lvl then, nice
you barely lose any mettle at all
death is really no consequense in Bozja
lost 540
You just lose twice if you dont get rezzed

At rank 13 you lose 1900 something
Didnt want to see how many you lose when you return
And acording to darkness rank 15 you lose 4k or smth high like that
Idrm what he said exactly
1 skirmish is like 1200
Just make sure you get rezzed
ive been told death is losing 1% mettle and releasing is another 10%
i dont think its as painful as death was in euerka
You gotta die alot
castrum deaths tho i assume youll die a lot there
Eureka: you died? Lose a whole ass rank
Bozja: you died? I'll shave off 100 exp.
When you lose mettle, you don't de-rank
Ye
you dont derank
You can be rank 10 with 0 mettle
which is good
Just lost progress if you arent at cap
Btw.
How important is haste in bozja?
Depends
Is it ignorable?
Lost haste?
If your job doesn't need a speed tier its bad
Depends on how much the ilevel cap screwed over your rotation and sks/sps
If you're the type of person who just visits a Skirmish to get gold and leave
Then you'll love it
rank having nothing to do with stats is nice to
rank having nothing to do with stats is nice to
Touches a rank V mob.
one shots you because fuck you
No bis
haste adds a bit more
Unless you need the haste
As a tank.
Eating 80k is great
so there is reason to get the bozjan stuff
Was gonna assume it would be 470 lol
So i theorized BiS would be TEA bis











