#retired-patch-6-3-discussion
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Let you party members die

why would alisaie get another job?
Necromancer alisaie or alphinaud
But really the exarch costume makes him look taller than he is
development
she went from slashy sword to poking sword and now you want her to diggy sword?
Does anyone remember Alisiae's line
Calling Alphy a snob
I thought development meant new clothes

the 1cm he needed
Everyone who isn't a lala, miqo, or Femra towers over him
Because they still have their HW outfits
development means classes
"that bread rarely graces our table,"
"GOD ALPHY YOU'RE SUCH A SNOB"
Maybe
But I'm 100% sure Alisaie is staying a Red Mage
alisaie might change into a new dps class
I'm betting 5.5 the final weapon we face will have Gaius data.
well; yea

you know something I hope? That we were still in the days of AMV height
he's not sch
sorry
Can derplander be healer this time
A C A D E M I A N
so that there'd be like 5 different AMVs about Emet-Selch or Elidibus with "How to Save a Life"
lol
I mean she makes a comment about new clothes and profession
that'd be dope
But ye she's mostly pouting
derplander healer is no bueno because manly men dont heal
rip

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@swift kraken Academician

NO


those were good times
oh i have a good one torpid

Macadamia nuts





That's Alphy's job
how did it get worse
Stormblood
all of derplander's classes (except for 1.0) have been melee attackers
"Estinen stalks you and saves both the day and your life"
i want the headliner for 6.0 to be MCH
derplander pulls out a gun and shoots someone
DRK is probably the closest we'll get to mage derplander lmao
RDM life 
it should be mch
Derplander with a gun Derplander with a gun
Derplander has enough
we get gaia and ryne next expansion
Make him AST
just cuz
I rly wanna see paladin derplander tbh
Gaia trust
Imagine
IMAGINE HAMMER JOB
Me when first playing rdm
just let her
"Backflips right off the edge of the arena"
gaia dying would be pointless
no like
"Is dead the whole fight"
gaia being offed as in
I want
or Berserker
she's not gaia, but rather just an entity designed to be gaia
Berserker is doooope
cuz the implication is there that she's actually Ultemicia
the job is just called Ran'Jit
What it is
Why is it
shrug
but Berserker uses a two handed sword so I dunno might be too close to DRK
Ulta who
remember when they said they'd let you date NPCs and then it was an april fools joke
Name: ran'jit
Job: ran'jit
Weapon: ran'jit
berserk uses 2 hand sword yes but berserker would wield it one handed
that'd be good
They should put the dating mechanic in, it'd be hilarious
@swift kraken is good to know I'm strong πͺ
make Battle To The Death With Wedge real
standing next to an npc counts as a date

Isn
Should I do Heroes' Gauntlet or Puppet's Bunker
just gonn wap some people nbd
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Isn't that just drk
I wonder how far the Ivalice/Bozja plot will go... They hinted strongly Ashe was alive somehow. Let's see how this all ties in Matsuno's plot
Hrng trying to level my BLM so i can run trusts with healer G'raha
ashe overwatch
It's not Ashe
princess Ashe from FFXII
Someone was using her name I think
Because the Bangaas clearly saw her dying
I feel they gonna pull something silly to justify her alive
O
it's not real life they can come up with a thousand bullshit ways for her to be alive
or it might be someone else
hard to say
yeah it should be an impostor using ashe's name to rally banner
While they pull off the actually-not-dead quite often, they do make it clear if someone is actually dead dead
Being split between so many narratives was stormblood biggest weakness to me but im also wondering how
So many plot threads currently about can be tied up
they did that to zenos
And Ashe was seen dying
Fran seems to take a great deal of care for that person, tho, given all she did to give her a lesson during the raid... Don't thing she would've gone all the trouble for an impostor
Zenos was quickly hinted to be alive
yeah in 5.2
I don't remember which patch
That zenos didn't expect to not be dead
sorry
But it was hinted in the Elezen dude
The fucker was just as suprised
So has anyone picked out the lyrics for To The Limit?
4.3 is blown display of notzenos
And he rolled with it
4.4 is zenos actually surviving
Like a champ
What does that play on
Emet is also dead dead because the story keeps talking about him as actually dead
The wol fight
O
I thought that was to the edge
cuz he's a total bro
Its the lyrics from hades
emet trust when
Wait no
I'm thinking extreme but there's elements in there
Emet is dead until he isn't anymore
The riding home bit and such
The only thing I've been able to pick out is "In monochrome melodies, our dreams are painted in red"
Hang on
It's tears not dreams i thinkk
See 'm personally convinced the Princess Ashe leading Lente's Tear is a Viera taking her name as a city one
there was a reddit post trying to
Also that it's Fran's little sister Mjrn bc I'd adore a 12 nod like that
Yeah Google is being singularly unhelpful in showing me reddit threads on the subject
bc I also get big sister vibes from how Fran treats her,
Jenomis believes whoever it is, is someone still unexperienced/young, as Fran seems to be kinda "teaching" the ways to that person - so if it is indeed Ashe, she "time traveled" to current time or her body was kept in some form of stasis for quite the years
oh yeah
Id recommend the extreme music too
Ashe would be like 30 or something
@vivid notch he actually did HIMSELF
my guess is that it is either Ashe's daughter of Fran's lil sister
Man I ain't looking forward to more frab
wait who
o
But ill admit fran has guts to threaten the wol
huh thought we murdered him
Everyone in ivlance tho was so rude
no he slit his own throat
Bar the moogles, the reporter and cid
I think in the end they'll just want to make this big fanservice and pull some Ashe reveal somehow
The whole "This is a terrible plan but I go through with it to show you how naΓ―ve it is"
gave big big sibling vibes
I like zenos more after stormblood
he was like 'i will never be this hard ever again -cuts throat-'
Btw glass
During stormblood he was just some boring killer who highjacked a dragon
Cool actions boring personality
Did you pick the name knowing what would happen
very important business
@golden nebula you means you didn't like his murder boner for us?
I swear I made my cat girl like
Not that tall
We know Matsuno is not too prone to happy endings, tho. Quite the contrary, actually (im still surprised Ivalice ended in a somewhat positive note)
Mikoto is a goner
@static niche
Unfortunately I just couldn't get a murder boner up in return
just wait
Tbh on the whole i liked hw more than stormblood
But zenos and the tall girl stand out
SB kinda sucks
@stuck yarrow Why is your face so determined
God whats her name
Moon bunny Lady who stabbed zenos yandere
wait
Thats the name
O
valentiones day:
Aymeric invites you to dinner
Alisaie gives you a homemade card
G'raha makes you sandwiches
Zenos leaves a corpse on your doorstep
True
yotsuyu, but she never stabbed zenos lol
no she stabbed gotesu
@carmine basin
even the non-weeb parts are good
I cant not laugh by Zenos' armor super fatass.... they should've polished the design a bit more in that
Who was a total stalker/yandere to zenos
tbh I thought stormblood was great
Not as good as HW or SHB but still pretty great
Oh god... The cutscene before the patch trial
like, the beginning parts of SB are great
it really drives home the point of shit's fucked
oh yeah
Gave me goosebumps
asahi
How do you top this?
but then it goes to shit
I liked Fordola a lot
Zenos is a cat confirmed
because of weeb land and then Yanxia which also sucks
@subtle pasture
please make the alt look like asahi
and then the Steppes get good again
he's a unique face, isn't he?
@sick vine top 5.3 pre trial? 5.0 hades obviously
or I forget
XD
Let me check
Moren has the same face as Asahi
he does lmao
Custom face, bah
Well, yea, 5.0 hades was just epic, and this one is a good second
I didn't love zenos
and Gosetsu
But yes Moren does share the mold
and weebland
Aww
Having that losers face
basically weebs ruin everything
His hair is available at least
hien is super custom, asahi is super custom
No really, when Moren was in the beginning of 5.3 stuff he was just,
Anything vaguely asian is weeb apparently
He bro'd v quickly
giving the big "...something is wrong here" vibe to me
esp the "uh, should I be listening to this..?"
LIke YEAH UH HUH SHOULD YOU?
--but he's a good lad, elsewise
I don't particularly care about Yanxia but it's okay at least
my problem is with Hien
he's from one of the samurai places tho
LOL fun fact
Hien π³
Fandaniel actually has different eye color and face paint to Asahi,
they're one color off, each
he is 'generic stoic wise but kind proud but humble leader #01'
he's boring
I admit his tiddy is great
but that's just meat
they need to be interesting
like, say, Raubahn
Raubahn is dope
Nero is trash but also dope
I like Nero
Nero is a trashcan in human shape but he is great
I wanna know where the hell nero went
Raubahn and Nero are great
What is that tall shit getting up to
He'll appear soon
Cid is actually pretty busy this expansion
a bit too good a boy for my tastes
--oh, actually, we can see what Valens looks like from his character data
but he is a goodun
Yeah I was asking if somebody has datamined his model
Seems like just a placeholder
I hate that I like Estinien
oh he has a scar,
but edgy boy does have his charm
might be why the face is obscured so much?
Imma try recreating him
oh, what is
trying to make estinien take a bath is a fool's errand
his hair, lmao
Might be custom
he walked around covered in dragon blood for half of 3.0
Maybe they learned from Fandaniel and Exarch being figured out from their character data lol
Since I remember exarch in 4.5? had the data of G'raha
Gaius is also great
I like how even after the whole thing he is still a piece of shit
but he is also daddy
oof castrum
so he's good now
I'm noting you have a thing for edgelords
wait did they bang?
yes
yes
strongly implied
yes
i dont
pretty clear that poor au ra girl is getting fucked by that sweaty man
I hate how edgy he is
and I love how edgy he is
eugh
BALD
poor aymeric got turned into a fox
no offense to aymeric hes nice but hes the missionary position of ffxiv husbandos
yes
Baemeric
you know what'd be fitting for the elezen
the nose and mouth line up but,
the pompous
also his face looks too plastic for me
hair one
the rest is totally off for the character data
XD
like it belongs in a different game
I guess I do like Thancred's GNB getup

thancred is like
physically he

is hot
but
the sexual tension between runar and y'shtola
lol
His first appearance has him being referred to as Handsome Man iirc
also I can't imagine wanting to bang thancred
Thancred that is
thancred was always greasy
I dunno
Eh his HW look was that kinda thing and I wasn't a fan
Thancred in SB lost some of his hotness
I found him to be pretty baby faced before the GNB change
i means
just what was that
they gotta cripple him somehow
Thancred is like 32 in ARR
ever think about that
He's still 32
well
He even wakes up with his ShB appearance
Even though he should look like his HW appearance

mentally now he's 5 years older
Still physically 32 I should say
tataru recognized the terrible haircut and dealt with it while he slept
5?
so mentally he's about 11 now?
you means 10 right?
it's 10/5/...
wait
was it 5/3/1?
could swore it was 10/5/1
weird
So on Balmung no one has put the new Chocobo Barding up on the MB yet, has anyone else on any of the other servers seen someone with it on their bird?
Ask someone to flex it in shout
And it's been a few days, takes time for people to clear and to farm it
no thancred
oh
I love how you could mess with the hitbox a bit on that fight
we see in urianger a quality old timer meme
the first part of 1.0 takes place 10 years before the rest
just hang around his feet and spin around him in circles attacking
and then there was another 5 years for calamity
One other thing I need to ask. Did anyone get Azem referred to as a male?
That's what I wanted to confirm
Whoaaa
Cuz my character is a femqo'te
We really Gundam now
Azem was she for me
apparently it was supposed to be the inverse of the PC's gender
but the translation team fucked up
Lol
but that's info from someone on discord so take it with a grain of salt
/slap
Still think it's pretty obvious we're meant to be Azem's reincarnation.
as was the WoL model elidibus took
I mean to be fair that the WoL is the 14th was like
i means that thing looks feminine too
So it makes it so funny that Elidibus asks who we are
before i go to sleep i offer you this 
but it's nice to be able to refer to the WoL as something else now
"I'm the 14th member of the Convocation, you twat"
Like how we still have Emet's crystal with us
also I like that Azem's crystal is the Sun
Yeah
wait
Wait not Emets crystal
i means
Also...Azim.
it is supposed to be a star so
xD
I mean Azems
Yup
was it?
Something like that
That moment when you have to verify your age in order to enter spoilers channel
wait who is Nhamma then?
It's on the map of that area
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eorzea sun deity is Azeyma
nhamma is the night goddess for xaela
Azem is a root word
azim being the sun god
I'm assuming they mean is nhaama an ascian
Nhythlodaeusama?
/slap
Seven shadows casts, seven fates foretold, yet on their path lies death and death alone!
and sneeze while you're at it
tru
Would be cool if we ended up being the sun God. I would get the power to wipe the floor with other wol's faces

Took me a while to realize Azem's symbo is, in fact, the Sun
and the part where they travelled, makes a lot of sense too
what was the name of the Ancient that gave us the orange crystal in Amaurot?
"huh who's the 14 Zodiac"
oh shit that was mad quick queue
hythlodaeus or whatev
"well the sun is what makes a Zodiac a zodiac soooo"
Hythlodaeus a true G
The sun moves, so the 14th member moves too
honestly it's so dumb but so brilliant
._.
Yeah
Lmao yeah, it's why my first thought was Azem's symbol was Polaris
His name came from Raphael Hythlodaeus, a character from Thomas More's Utopia.
Im a bit confused about the ascian lore. Is azem and Hythlo same being? Or azem is an ascian splitted into our wol and hythlo their friend. But i dont see Hythlo stone.
When Hythlodaeus spoke of his and Hades' mutual friend,
that friend was Azem, the Fourteenth Seat
hyth and emet's mutual friend is presundered us
thats what i figured
and I also realized w/ 5.3 that, Hythlo never referred to the friend as Azem or a Convocation seat bc of our defection,
the adventuring ancient
that like to solve problems him/herself
with his/her comrades
basically literally us
XD
Ahhh now I know Hythlo isnt part of convocation. Always thought they were. Thanks
he ws supposed to get the emet selch title but declined it didnt he?
cuz of his skills with underworld
He turned it down bc he likes to just observe,
oh hyth turned it down?
i think i made mention a while back
Hades is better with the practical applications of their similar gifts
"Practical"
ah so that explains why hyth is more or less free willed
how the "gods" of eorzea had some connection with the presundered
emet didn't want to have him be a mindless puppet
out of respect
or out of plan for us
Wouldn't be surprised if Hydotaleus ended up being one of the sundered Scions. Maybe Minfilia maybe Yshtola
nope
As Hythlo theorizes, Hades likely made an error in the construction of his Shade,
"Hythlodaeus would notice," simple as that,
from what i'm seeing we haven't met hyth's sundered self yet
which makes sense, given Hythlo had better perception than he,
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I thought "Shepherd" was a unique choice for the title you get at the end of all of that
and the symbol on that orange crystal reminded me of Oschon a bit
Also, my thought is that Krile is a Hythlodaeus Shard,
bc her echo is noted for being exceptionally sensitive
and perceptive

cuz krile's useless
I know 
Hyth is also noted as being insufferably smug
So I kinda buy into krile-hyth
IS A FUCKING POTATO

so this might be a bit of a lore deep dive....but if all this jazz about Hydalyn and stuff is true then were The Twelve ever truly real "gods and goddess" or were they just kind of like primals?

they were primals at most
@gaunt star pretty muchu yeah
They might have been primals, they might have been solely mythological,
all worshipped entity are primals
gaius did say it in prae
mind you, when Louisoix did the ritual in End of an Era, he summoned effigies of the Twelve, not them directly
krilethlodaeus
phoenix is the combination of all 12 made into desire to rejuvenate the broken lands
@gaunt star i think they have some connection to the ancients who summoned hydaelyn
The curious thing for me is that,
with the shard ofc.
@spiral wagon that's what I was thinking....because there was the Convocation of 14....and then there's The Twelve
and the symbol on the orange crystal looks a lot like Oschon's
I mean
Yeah, Word of the Mother might have been, but Minfilia was a mortal woman, born of Ala Mhigo,
considering the whole heart of hydaelyn would tends to be the person most imbued to hydaelyn's voice
so minfilia seems like greatest possibility to be venat
the circle with a dot in the middle
but that's no more cuz minfilia is dead
But the Word of the Mother is gone and Ryne doesn't appear to have as deep a connection to Hydaelyn as she did
yeah
@static niche one of her sundered parts
iirc she said uh,
she senses her, but that's it,
and like, ofc she would, Ryne is our super Light detector
Watch as Ryne and Gaia combine in the future to form the Heart of Hydaelyn
errr
otherwise we'd have another elibidus running around
Which one
cough
@static niche maybe that's why Hydaleyn doesn't have energy to speak to us anymore

Activating combat mode
She sundered herself as well maybe
*crisis core flash backs
Venat has been split into Ryne and Gaia? @coarse pond
i means
Mind you, Elidibus was sent before the Sundering,
she not having energies is cuz she blocked most of the calamity damages
right?
from 1 to 7
though, Y'shtola marks it's odd that he existed fine after Zodi was sundered and sealed
why would she sunder herself when she needs her whole self to keep zodiark down
but little more was said there
yeah
It's not sundering to send their Heart forward as Zodi did, but,
elidibus said he left zodiark
we dunno what it is, exactly
How are the pug groups for Shiva Unreal?
so he can be with the other two presundered ascians
emet probably noticed something was wrong
so he planned a long game
Then again, with Zodiark's temper,
the really long game
a game that ended up failing once
they prob had no issue acknowledging Elidibus as Elidibus,
with 8th calamity
despite really being a primal of Elidibus
elibidus isn't a primal of elidibus
Is there anything Yoshida won't do what's next DBZ in XIV?
dont give him ideas
it's still elibidus but corrupted by zodiark cuz he had to manifest into his heart
and we alreay have dbz with hades ATM
he's referred to as "a primal of sorts" due to those prayers
--Does this mean Elidibus is literally the
instead of the person before elidibus
"What if WoL is a primal"
So many voices he dont know who he is anymore
i means
they gve us our priml theory xD
remember that trope theory
where we were expected to fight a WoL at one point
cuz of all worshiping us
Looks like activating the QTE in the WoL trial NM automatically revives dead people.
but that was wrong in one way?
xD
cuz it ended up being just elidibus summoning other 'battle wills' of wols from other worlds onto himself and made himself the First WoL
that said. FUCK THAT QTE
xD
SUCH ASS CLENCHING
I love it
hey.
im not wrong
you all clenched teeth, ass tighter that a speck of dust can't get through, throat clogged flexing and brows frowning all way down in maximum anger mode
doing that qte
with one arm stroking up and down as if you were rubbing one out in pure frustration with a finger
i am NOT wrong fam
accept the truth
embrace it
for it will be nerfed so we don't have to go through those again
I was shocked with the sudden drop in the qte
And the bar barely moved back even I press as fast as I can
yeah
it was a nice change
and there's a dc
Imagine doing that QTE on a controller
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You recognise constellation on it
Oh. Ya mean when we are the deliveroo
I mean, ya didnt clarify, but i suspect it involves sensing the aether
we're not y'shtola
Either that or we scribbled their names on it
I mean
I wouldnt be surprised if when ya hold the crystal, you can feel the person
first wipe in part 3
Like if I hold Alphi's it's probably feels like books, politics, boring shit
Then alisae's is just murder and WoL
Would have loved a body swap gag between alisae and alphi
Iike they wake up, oh shit, they've swapped, nah just kidding
Dunno, touching your boobs gag is kind of overdone
You've yee-ed ya last hawww partner
I legitimately do not know the significance of Elidibus taking the form of the First's first WoL
Was he the first WoL on the first?
yes
he possessed that WoL like lahabrea once did thancred i believe
but unlike thancred, elibidus kept it for good
Reasoning?
G'raha is finally living his dream he's gotta be so happy
Which is?
salvation and world's truth
I thought it was to mantain balance
He didn't possess the warrior of light though. He changed form into it after absorbing the other world wol
no.
I'd guess Elidibus is in same situation as that tiny cute kid cat girl.
Kid inspired by WoL
my understanding is he basically possessed the WoL there
But by the first WoL
cuz WoL turned to look at Elidibus when elibidus was charging at him
"WoL there" please clarify
im trying to enjoy the msq here. just wait dammit
Actually my theory is that first wol is the same first wol across all worlds and that's the image of azem. Azem is the first warrior of light back in ancient time and the story get pass throughout
That would imply Azem was male
Not really
We never saw the wol face in elidibus flash back
And wol is just a title without gender
Oh. I thought you meant that pic they had of the First's WoL
interesting information...
I think.. urianger showed us?
Library guy in Crystarium did
Ah. Gotcha
Well azem was the shepherd to the stars in the dark
but WHY IS BOWL CUT BACK?!
the WoL shown in the memory is the same WoL in the book
the original WoL of the First
Elidibus seized him body and soul at some point of his adventure, whether known or not more likely he was starting to get famous and elidibus decided he was good start to create a fable. and became the WoL for the First
keep in mind this is a shard of azem
far weaker compared to elidibus as a true primal
Wasn't Elidibus transformation just summoning a primal version of WoL and transforming like Shiva
wait when did they say this was a shard of azem
in the trial? yes he was resummoning what he used to be
@torpid yoke idk but i remember it being mentioned at some point
they never mentioned it
stare
WoL had Azim crystal with them the entire fight
YOU WILL FIND MY DEFENCES QUITE IMPENETRABLE
so
azim is probably based on the exploits of Azem though
g'raha used to be an archer right?
he said he's doing conjurer again cuz he feel that might be more useful despite not having tower's connection anymore
well
technically he can do both but idk
cnj and thm i means

I mean he has more accumulated experience casting spells than shooting arrows at this point
ngl i'm sad he's not an archer. we have so many mages ):
Needs more RDPS love
WAIT
should have given him a gun
grats
shit is fun
i just unlocked ex 
gun'raha
The tank limit break mechanics were a surprise.. but a welcome one... its not often that tanks get to do that
but seriously, BOOWWWLLL CUUUTTTTT!!! angry fist shaking
they literally picked the most annoying npc's body to give to the most annoying ascian lol
Yoshi-P is trolling us hard
@gaunt star Zenos looks like he was about ready to scilence him himself.. a few times..
true. i get there's not many options but.. man i dislike asahi :U guess we will get to kill him again at least
lol
wonder if we'll see gotesu again tho
haven't seen him for an entire expansion now
prob not
I felt like while watching Fandaniel I was watching Jester/Arkham from DMC
why not Joker?
I keep wanting to call him fandango
Like Zenos is Vergil in this instance and Fandaniel Arkham
it's funny how
I was wondering who the heck the npc was.. im like hes so familiarly annoying.. but who?... wait.. hes the BROTHER of the one person..
there's ONE ascian
are there fflog rankings for WoL EX yet?
who actually hated elidibus
or
it makes me wonder if the shb theme is mostly about that WoL fight. but then again, it's the actual hades theme so....
I think he hated all the unsundered
NOT EMET
i means lahabrea is understandable
afterall that nabriele whelp hated him too
nah he seemed very much happy that the entire 'old guard' had been wiped out
I believe its agreed upon JC Miller is Derplanders Voice similar to how Susan Calloway is Hydaelyns voice when it comes to the Expac theme songs.
I love the emet/Shiva snap sound...
Its made.. but... somewhere
Same with the image of tataru juggling a knife, axe, and a glass bottle...
Its somewhere.. but yeah...
shes so talented :D





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