#retired-patch-6-3-discussion

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static niche
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πŸ˜„

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and you all called me stupid

swift kraken
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i dont want to summon dead people

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go awa

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y

floral schooner
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Let you party members die

swift kraken
golden nebula
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Hey

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It was hinted thr twins would get new jobs too

static niche
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why would alisaie get another job?

golden nebula
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Necromancer alisaie or alphinaud

stuck yarrow
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But really the exarch costume makes him look taller than he is

golden nebula
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development

swift kraken
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its the exarch pose

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actually

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WAIT

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GUYS

static niche
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she went from slashy sword to poking sword and now you want her to diggy sword?

carmine basin
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Does anyone remember Alisiae's line

swift kraken
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DID HE GROW WHILE SLEEPING IN THE TOWER

carmine basin
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Calling Alphy a snob

viscid monolith
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I thought development meant new clothes

carmine basin
swift kraken
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the 1cm he needed

stuck yarrow
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Everyone who isn't a lala, miqo, or Femra towers over him

viscid monolith
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Because they still have their HW outfits

swift kraken
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development means classes

carmine basin
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"that bread rarely graces our table,"
"GOD ALPHY YOU'RE SUCH A SNOB"

swift kraken
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im p sure

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i want that bread

viscid monolith
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Maybe

swift kraken
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bread for 5.4 crafter food

viscid monolith
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But I'm 100% sure Alisaie is staying a Red Mage

swift kraken
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alisaie might change into a new dps class

mint axle
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I'm betting 5.5 the final weapon we face will have Gaius data.

static niche
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if someone's changing class

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it'll be us

swift kraken
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well; yea

static niche
vivid notch
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you know something I hope? That we were still in the days of AMV height

swift kraken
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alphinaud should just

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stay sch

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its perfect for him

static niche
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he's not sch

swift kraken
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sorry

carmine basin
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Can derplander be healer this time

swift kraken
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A C A D E M I A N

vivid notch
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so that there'd be like 5 different AMVs about Emet-Selch or Elidibus with "How to Save a Life"

static niche
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lol

golden nebula
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I mean she makes a comment about new clothes and profession

vivid notch
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that'd be dope

golden nebula
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But ye she's mostly pouting

swift kraken
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derplander healer is no bueno because manly men dont heal

stuck yarrow
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rip

swift kraken
golden nebula
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🐸

swift kraken
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gotta leave that to the twinks and women amirite squenix

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you fuckers

viscid monolith
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@swift kraken Academician

swift kraken
golden nebula
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NO

swift kraken
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macadamian

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yes

golden nebula
vivid notch
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oh yeah

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remember when Y'Shtola was a strong character? haha

swift kraken
vivid notch
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those were good times

swift kraken
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oh i have a good one torpid

golden nebula
carmine basin
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Macadamia nuts

swift kraken
carmine basin
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That's Alphy's job

golden nebula
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how did it get worse

swift kraken
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estinien character arc

golden nebula
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Stormblood

stuck yarrow
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all of derplander's classes (except for 1.0) have been melee attackers

golden nebula
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"Estinen stalks you and saves both the day and your life"

swift kraken
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this is actually

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my development throughout the expacs

half tendon
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i want the headliner for 6.0 to be MCH

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derplander pulls out a gun and shoots someone

stuck yarrow
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DRK is probably the closest we'll get to mage derplander lmao

radiant badger
half tendon
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in a gorgeous cgi trailer

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that'd be hilarious to me

swift kraken
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it should be mch

stuck yarrow
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Derplander with a gun Derplander with a gun

static niche
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you know

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i'm still hoping

swift kraken
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shoot me mr. wol

turbid aspen
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Derplander has enough

static niche
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we get gaia and ryne next expansion

stuck yarrow
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Make him AST

static niche
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just cuz

turbid aspen
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I rly wanna see paladin derplander tbh

swift kraken
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i want

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the gfs

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so its ok

static niche
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assuming gaia isn't offed by end of the expansion cuz lore

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rofl

stuck yarrow
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Gaia trust
Imagine

swift kraken
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no she wouldnt be

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that would kill ryne

static niche
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IMAGINE HAMMER JOB

golden nebula
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Me when first playing rdm

swift kraken
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just let her

golden nebula
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"Backflips right off the edge of the arena"

swift kraken
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gaia dying would be pointless

static niche
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no like

golden nebula
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"Is dead the whole fight"

static niche
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gaia being offed as in

vivid notch
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I still want Ran'jit to be the dps job

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but I'd be fine with ink mage

golden nebula
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I want

vivid notch
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or Berserker

static niche
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she's not gaia, but rather just an entity designed to be gaia

vivid notch
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Berserker is doooope

golden nebula
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To learn about gaias fae

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Like we have no info on that

static niche
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cuz the implication is there that she's actually Ultemicia

half tendon
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the job is just called Ran'Jit

stray notch
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I almost cried during MSQ

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so good

golden nebula
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What it is
Why is it

static niche
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shrug

vivid notch
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but Berserker uses a two handed sword so I dunno might be too close to DRK

swift kraken
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almost

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you are stronger than i am

golden nebula
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Ulta who

stuck yarrow
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remember when they said they'd let you date NPCs and then it was an april fools joke

half tendon
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Name: ran'jit
Job: ran'jit
Weapon: ran'jit

static niche
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berserk uses 2 hand sword yes but berserker would wield it one handed

vivid notch
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that'd be good

half tendon
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They should put the dating mechanic in, it'd be hilarious

vivid notch
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oh damn

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that'd be dope

golden nebula
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@swift kraken is good to know I'm strong πŸ’ͺ

half tendon
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make Battle To The Death With Wedge real

swift kraken
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standing next to an npc counts as a date

vivid notch
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just a fuck you huge sword that is one handed

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I'd like that a lot

swift kraken
stuck yarrow
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Isn

carmine basin
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Should I do Heroes' Gauntlet or Puppet's Bunker

vivid notch
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just gonn wap some people nbd

swift kraken
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πŸ…±οΈubbet

stuck yarrow
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Isn't that just drk

golden nebula
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Heros

frozen spade
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playdead another phase 1 learning

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when its add prog

crimson pollen
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I wonder how far the Ivalice/Bozja plot will go... They hinted strongly Ashe was alive somehow. Let's see how this all ties in Matsuno's plot

golden nebula
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...i feel like I know that name

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Ashe

stuck yarrow
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Hrng trying to level my BLM so i can run trusts with healer G'raha

swift kraken
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ashe overwatch

carmine basin
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It's not Ashe

vivid notch
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princess Ashe from FFXII

carmine basin
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Someone was using her name I think

vivid notch
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I mean

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it might be AShe

carmine basin
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Because the Bangaas clearly saw her dying

vivid notch
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in FFXIV she is theoretically dead

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but also could not be dead

crimson pollen
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I feel they gonna pull something silly to justify her alive

golden nebula
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O

vivid notch
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it's not real life they can come up with a thousand bullshit ways for her to be alive

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or it might be someone else

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hard to say

static niche
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yeah it should be an impostor using ashe's name to rally banner

golden nebula
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6.0 but its split between garland and bozja

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pls no

carmine basin
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While they pull off the actually-not-dead quite often, they do make it clear if someone is actually dead dead

static niche
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i means

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aya

golden nebula
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Being split between so many narratives was stormblood biggest weakness to me but im also wondering how

So many plot threads currently about can be tied up

static niche
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they did that to zenos

carmine basin
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And Ashe was seen dying

static niche
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DEAD DEAD

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and he lived

vivid notch
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remember when we fucking murdered Zenos

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and he came back?

crimson pollen
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Fran seems to take a great deal of care for that person, tho, given all she did to give her a lesson during the raid... Don't thing she would've gone all the trouble for an impostor

carmine basin
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Zenos was quickly hinted to be alive

static niche
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yeah in 5.2

carmine basin
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I don't remember which patch

golden nebula
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I

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LOVE

static niche
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just a hint anyway

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er

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4.2

golden nebula
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That zenos didn't expect to not be dead

static niche
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sorry

carmine basin
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But it was hinted in the Elezen dude

golden nebula
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The fucker was just as suprised

stark zinc
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So has anyone picked out the lyrics for To The Limit?

static niche
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4.3 is blown display of notzenos

golden nebula
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And he rolled with it

static niche
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4.4 is zenos actually surviving

golden nebula
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Like a champ

static niche
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afaik

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er

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afair

golden nebula
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What does that play on

carmine basin
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Emet is also dead dead because the story keeps talking about him as actually dead

stark zinc
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The wol fight

static niche
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he is dead dead tho

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but i'd be gilded if he survive

golden nebula
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O
I thought that was to the edge

static niche
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cuz he's a total bro

golden nebula
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Its the lyrics from hades

static niche
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emet trust when

stark zinc
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Sorry you're right

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It's To The Edge.

golden nebula
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Wait no
I'm thinking extreme but there's elements in there

vivid notch
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Emet is dead until he isn't anymore

golden nebula
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The riding home bit and such

stark zinc
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The only thing I've been able to pick out is "In monochrome melodies, our dreams are painted in red"

golden nebula
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Hang on

stuck yarrow
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It's tears not dreams i thinkk

subtle pasture
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See 'm personally convinced the Princess Ashe leading Lente's Tear is a Viera taking her name as a city one

stuck yarrow
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there was a reddit post trying to

subtle pasture
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Also that it's Fran's little sister Mjrn bc I'd adore a 12 nod like that

stark zinc
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Yeah Google is being singularly unhelpful in showing me reddit threads on the subject

subtle pasture
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bc I also get big sister vibes from how Fran treats her,

golden nebula
crimson pollen
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Jenomis believes whoever it is, is someone still unexperienced/young, as Fran seems to be kinda "teaching" the ways to that person - so if it is indeed Ashe, she "time traveled" to current time or her body was kept in some form of stasis for quite the years

vivid notch
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oh yeah

golden nebula
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Id recommend the extreme music too

vivid notch
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Ashe would be like 30 or something

prisma vine
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@vivid notch he actually did HIMSELF

vivid notch
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my guess is that it is either Ashe's daughter of Fran's lil sister

golden nebula
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Man I ain't looking forward to more frab

vivid notch
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wait who

prisma vine
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zenos

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we didn't murder zenos

vivid notch
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o

golden nebula
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But ill admit fran has guts to threaten the wol

vivid notch
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huh thought we murdered him

golden nebula
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Everyone in ivlance tho was so rude

prisma vine
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no he slit his own throat

golden nebula
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Bar the moogles, the reporter and cid

crimson pollen
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I think in the end they'll just want to make this big fanservice and pull some Ashe reveal somehow

vivid notch
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o lmao

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nice

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see that's why I like Zenos

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he is hardcore

subtle pasture
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The whole "This is a terrible plan but I go through with it to show you how naΓ―ve it is"

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gave big big sibling vibes

golden nebula
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I like zenos more after stormblood

prisma vine
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he was like 'i will never be this hard ever again -cuts throat-'

carmine basin
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Btw glass

golden nebula
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During stormblood he was just some boring killer who highjacked a dragon

Cool actions boring personality

carmine basin
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Did you pick the name knowing what would happen

stuck yarrow
golden nebula
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But now I'm excited to rumble with him again

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I swear

static niche
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@golden nebula you means you didn't like his murder boner for us?

golden nebula
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I swear I made my cat girl like
Not that tall

crimson pollen
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We know Matsuno is not too prone to happy endings, tho. Quite the contrary, actually (im still surprised Ivalice ended in a somewhat positive note)

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Mikoto is a goner

golden nebula
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@static niche
Unfortunately I just couldn't get a murder boner up in return

crimson pollen
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just wait

golden nebula
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Tbh on the whole i liked hw more than stormblood

vivid notch
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I mean I think that's the general opinion

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HW is very good

golden nebula
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But zenos and the tall girl stand out

vivid notch
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SB kinda sucks

viscid monolith
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@stuck yarrow Why is your face so determined

golden nebula
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God whats her name

vivid notch
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Zenos and Yotsuyu are great

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but Stormblood sucks in general

golden nebula
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Moon bunny Lady who stabbed zenos yandere

vivid notch
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wait

golden nebula
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Thats the name

vivid notch
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Steppe also doesn't suck

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Steppe is great

golden nebula
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O

stuck yarrow
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valentiones day:
Aymeric invites you to dinner
Alisaie gives you a homemade card
G'raha makes you sandwiches
Zenos leaves a corpse on your doorstep

golden nebula
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True

static niche
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yotsuyu, but she never stabbed zenos lol

golden nebula
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I love sadu and little sun

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No she stabbed ash

static niche
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no she stabbed gotesu

subtle pasture
vivid notch
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even the non-weeb parts are good

crimson pollen
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I cant not laugh by Zenos' armor super fatass.... they should've polished the design a bit more in that

golden nebula
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Who was a total stalker/yandere to zenos

stuck yarrow
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tbh I thought stormblood was great
Not as good as HW or SHB but still pretty great

sick vine
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Oh god... The cutscene before the patch trial

vivid notch
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like, the beginning parts of SB are great

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it really drives home the point of shit's fucked

static niche
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oh yeah

sick vine
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Gave me goosebumps

static niche
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asahi

sick vine
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How do you top this?

vivid notch
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but then it goes to shit

stuck yarrow
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I liked Fordola a lot

golden nebula
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Zenos is a cat confirmed

vivid notch
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because of weeb land and then Yanxia which also sucks

carmine basin
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@subtle pasture haha please make the alt look like asahi

vivid notch
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and then the Steppes get good again

subtle pasture
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he's a unique face, isn't he?

static niche
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@sick vine top 5.3 pre trial? 5.0 hades obviously

subtle pasture
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or I forget

static niche
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XD

carmine basin
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Let me check

stuck yarrow
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no

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I don't think so

vivid notch
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Moren has the same face as Asahi

stuck yarrow
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he does lmao

vivid notch
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oh yeah Fordola is great too

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the main problem of SB is Lyse tbh

subtle pasture
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Custom face, bah

sick vine
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Well, yea, 5.0 hades was just epic, and this one is a good second

vivid notch
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and Hien

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and Doma

stuck yarrow
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I didn't love zenos

vivid notch
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and Gosetsu

golden nebula
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Explains why I never trusted moren

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Poor guy

subtle pasture
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But yes Moren does share the mold

vivid notch
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and weebland

stuck yarrow
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wow

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screw you

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Hien is great

golden nebula
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Having that losers face

vivid notch
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basically weebs ruin everything

carmine basin
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His hair is available at least

prisma vine
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hien is super custom, asahi is super custom

golden nebula
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Hien is

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Alright

subtle pasture
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No really, when Moren was in the beginning of 5.3 stuff he was just,

stuck yarrow
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Anything vaguely asian is weeb apparently

golden nebula
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He bro'd v quickly

subtle pasture
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giving the big "...something is wrong here" vibe to me

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esp the "uh, should I be listening to this..?"

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LIke YEAH UH HUH SHOULD YOU?

vivid notch
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I mean, Hien is a samurai

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that's hella weeb

subtle pasture
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--but he's a good lad, elsewise

vivid notch
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I don't particularly care about Yanxia but it's okay at least

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my problem is with Hien

prisma vine
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he's from one of the samurai places tho

vivid notch
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not Yugiri Yugiri did nothing wrong she is great

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Hien sucks

stuck yarrow
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tf is your problem

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why do you have such shit taste in men

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Hien's the best

subtle pasture
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LOL fun fact

errant mortar
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Hien 😳

subtle pasture
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Fandaniel actually has different eye color and face paint to Asahi,

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they're one color off, each

vivid notch
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he is 'generic stoic wise but kind proud but humble leader #01'

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he's boring

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I admit his tiddy is great

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but that's just meat

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they need to be interesting

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like, say, Raubahn

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Raubahn is dope

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Nero is trash but also dope

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I like Nero

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Nero is a trashcan in human shape but he is great

golden nebula
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I wanna know where the hell nero went

stuck yarrow
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Raubahn and Nero are great

golden nebula
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What is that tall shit getting up to

carmine basin
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He'll appear soon

vivid notch
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Aymeric is also good

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Aymeric is a good egg

carmine basin
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Cid is actually pretty busy this expansion

vivid notch
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a bit too good a boy for my tastes

subtle pasture
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--oh, actually, we can see what Valens looks like from his character data

vivid notch
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but he is a goodun

carmine basin
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Yeah I was asking if somebody has datamined his model

stuck yarrow
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Ok you like Aymeric
You may live

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For now

vivid notch
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Estinien is also great

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if he takes a bath

carmine basin
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Seems like just a placeholder

vivid notch
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I hate that I like Estinien

subtle pasture
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oh he has a scar,

vivid notch
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but edgy boy does have his charm

subtle pasture
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might be why the face is obscured so much?

radiant badger
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Okay so yeah hildi doesn't spawn every run

carmine basin
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Imma try recreating him

subtle pasture
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oh, what is

stuck yarrow
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trying to make estinien take a bath is a fool's errand

subtle pasture
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his hair, lmao

carmine basin
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Might be custom

subtle pasture
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I don't think the data is accurate, yeah,

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his skin is much darker than that, no?

stuck yarrow
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he walked around covered in dragon blood for half of 3.0

carmine basin
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Maybe they learned from Fandaniel and Exarch being figured out from their character data lol

vivid notch
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hah yeah

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stinky boy

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but also hot boy so eh

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what you gonna do

carmine basin
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Since I remember exarch in 4.5? had the data of G'raha

vivid notch
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Gaius is also great

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I like how even after the whole thing he is still a piece of shit

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but he is also daddy

stuck yarrow
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oof castrum

vivid notch
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so he's good now

swift kraken
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im not forgiving him banging livia

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weird ass old man

static niche
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right?

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adopts her then turns her into his sleeve

stuck yarrow
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I'm noting you have a thing for edgelords

vivid notch
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wait did they bang?

static niche
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bruh moment

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yes

forest magnet
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yes

vivid notch
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yes

static niche
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strongly implied

swift kraken
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yes

vivid notch
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oof

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I do have a thing for edgelords

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I was in fact gonna talk about Sid

swift kraken
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i dont

forest magnet
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pretty clear that poor au ra girl is getting fucked by that sweaty man

vivid notch
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I hate how edgy he is

swift kraken
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like aymeric that much

vivid notch
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and I love how edgy he is

subtle pasture
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hair is unlisted so ChenShrug

vivid notch
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eugh

static niche
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BALD

forest magnet
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poor aymeric got turned into a fox

swift kraken
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no offense to aymeric hes nice but hes the missionary position of ffxiv husbandos

vivid notch
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yes

stuck yarrow
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Baemeric

static niche
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you know what'd be fitting for the elezen

subtle pasture
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the nose and mouth line up but,

static niche
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the pompous

swift kraken
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also his face looks too plastic for me

static niche
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hair one

subtle pasture
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the rest is totally off for the character data

static niche
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XD

swift kraken
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like it belongs in a different game

vivid notch
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I guess I do like Thancred's GNB getup

swift kraken
vivid notch
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like

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that coat looks good on him

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and he scruffs up nice

carmine basin
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I like how when you talk to the fox in unfaux hollow

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You can call him Aymeric

stuck yarrow
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thancred is like
physically he

carmine basin
stuck yarrow
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is hot

static niche
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i'm not sure

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how to feel about

stuck yarrow
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but

swift kraken
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the aymeric option

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slayed me

static niche
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the sexual tension between runar and y'shtola

swift kraken
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lol

carmine basin
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His first appearance has him being referred to as Handsome Man iirc

stuck yarrow
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also I can't imagine wanting to bang thancred

carmine basin
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Thancred that is

vivid notch
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this applies to Thancred

swift kraken
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thancred was always greasy

vivid notch
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I dunno

stuck yarrow
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Eh his HW look was that kinda thing and I wasn't a fan

carmine basin
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Thancred in SB lost some of his hotness

vivid notch
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I found him to be pretty baby faced before the GNB change

swift kraken
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his hw look

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was fucking terrible

static niche
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i means

swift kraken
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just what was that

static niche
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they gotta cripple him somehow

stuck yarrow
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Thancred is like 32 in ARR

static niche
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cuz he's too flirt

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XD

stuck yarrow
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ever think about that

viscid monolith
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He's still 32

stuck yarrow
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well

carmine basin
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He even wakes up with his ShB appearance

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Even though he should look like his HW appearance

stuck yarrow
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mentally now he's 5 years older

viscid monolith
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Still physically 32 I should say

stuck yarrow
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tataru recognized the terrible haircut and dealt with it while he slept

static niche
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5?

vivid notch
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so mentally he's about 11 now?

static niche
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you means 10 right?

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it's 10/5/...

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wait

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was it 5/3/1?

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could swore it was 10/5/1

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weird

viscid monolith
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Thancred was there 5 years

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Yshtola/Urianger 3

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The twins 1 year

gaunt star
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So on Balmung no one has put the new Chocobo Barding up on the MB yet, has anyone else on any of the other servers seen someone with it on their bird?

carmine basin
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Ask someone to flex it in shout

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And it's been a few days, takes time for people to clear and to farm it

stuck yarrow
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it was 5 yeah

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dude wore his ARR outfit
For 15 years

static niche
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urianger? there was one time where he switched for two patches

stuck yarrow
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no thancred

quasi zodiac
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This

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is too funny

static niche
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oh

vivid notch
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gods I can't see what people see in Urianger

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those mutton chops SUCK

gaunt star
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I love how you could mess with the hitbox a bit on that fight

static niche
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we see in urianger a quality old timer meme

quasi zodiac
stuck yarrow
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the first part of 1.0 takes place 10 years before the rest

gaunt star
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just hang around his feet and spin around him in circles attacking

stuck yarrow
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and then there was another 5 years for calamity

stark zinc
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One other thing I need to ask. Did anyone get Azem referred to as a male?

static niche
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if you're male you get male pronoun for azem no?

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since azem's u

stark zinc
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That's what I wanted to confirm

tough fern
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Whoaaa

stark zinc
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Cuz my character is a femqo'te

tough fern
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We really Gundam now

stark zinc
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Azem was she for me

vivid notch
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apparently it was supposed to be the inverse of the PC's gender

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but the translation team fucked up

stark zinc
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Lol

vivid notch
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but that's info from someone on discord so take it with a grain of salt

static niche
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/slap

stark zinc
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Still think it's pretty obvious we're meant to be Azem's reincarnation.

vivid notch
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yeah

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like that's incredibly obvious

static niche
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as was the WoL model elidibus took

vivid notch
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I mean to be fair that the WoL is the 14th was like

static niche
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i means that thing looks feminine too

vivid notch
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already known for a while

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ever since the begining of ShB lmao

static niche
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yeah

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thanks emet!

stark zinc
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So it makes it so funny that Elidibus asks who we are

swift kraken
vivid notch
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but it's nice to be able to refer to the WoL as something else now

stark zinc
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"I'm the 14th member of the Convocation, you twat"

tough fern
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Like how we still have Emet's crystal with us

static niche
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post trial?

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really?

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POG

vivid notch
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also I like that Azem's crystal is the Sun

stark zinc
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Yeah

vivid notch
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wait

tough fern
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Wait not Emets crystal

static niche
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i means

stark zinc
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Also...Azim.

static niche
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it is supposed to be a star so

vivid notch
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isn't the sun god of the Steppe called yeah

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Azim

static niche
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xD

tough fern
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I mean Azems

stark zinc
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Yup

static niche
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what was moon goddess's name again

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N something

stark zinc
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Azem, Azim, sun crystal

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Nhaama?

static niche
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was it?

stark zinc
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Something like that

coarse pond
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That moment when you have to verify your age in order to enter spoilers channel

vivid notch
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wait who is Nhamma then?

stark zinc
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It's on the map of that area

coarse pond
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😩

stuck yarrow
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eorzea sun deity is Azeyma

vivid notch
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Nhammelidibus?

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Nhemet Selch?

static niche
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nhamma is the night goddess for xaela

stuck yarrow
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Azem is a root word

static niche
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azim being the sun god

stuck yarrow
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I'm assuming they mean is nhaama an ascian

vivid notch
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Nhem... uuuuh fuck what's the other Ascian name?

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the bro ascian

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the friend ascian

static niche
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hyda...

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...

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fuck that spelling

stark zinc
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Hythlodaeus

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I might have spelt it right

static niche
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i keep thinking of hydra whenever try to think of his name

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yes u did

vivid notch
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Nhythlodaeusama?

static niche
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/slap

vivid notch
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it kinda works

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if you squint

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and don't think too much about it

coarse pond
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Seven shadows casts, seven fates foretold, yet on their path lies death and death alone!

static niche
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and sneeze while you're at it

vivid notch
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tru

coarse pond
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Would be cool if we ended up being the sun God. I would get the power to wipe the floor with other wol's faces

subtle pasture
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Took me a while to realize Azem's symbo is, in fact, the Sun

timid solstice
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It's time

subtle pasture
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and the part where they travelled, makes a lot of sense too

spiral wagon
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what was the name of the Ancient that gave us the orange crystal in Amaurot?

subtle pasture
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"huh who's the 14 Zodiac"

timid solstice
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oh shit that was mad quick queue

echo orbit
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hythlodaeus or whatev

subtle pasture
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"well the sun is what makes a Zodiac a zodiac soooo"

spiral wagon
vivid notch
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Hythlodaeus a true G

subtle pasture
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The sun moves, so the 14th member moves too

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honestly it's so dumb but so brilliant

echo orbit
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._.

coarse pond
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Yeah

vivid notch
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I mean

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all constellations move

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but that's just me nitpicking

subtle pasture
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Lmao yeah, it's why my first thought was Azem's symbol was Polaris

spiral wagon
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His name came from Raphael Hythlodaeus, a character from Thomas More's Utopia.

broken terrace
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Im a bit confused about the ascian lore. Is azem and Hythlo same being? Or azem is an ascian splitted into our wol and hythlo their friend. But i dont see Hythlo stone.

subtle pasture
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When Hythlodaeus spoke of his and Hades' mutual friend,

spiral wagon
subtle pasture
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that friend was Azem, the Fourteenth Seat

vivid notch
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Hythlo wasn't part of the Convocation

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and yes WoL is Azem reborn

static niche
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hyth and emet's mutual friend is presundered us

spiral wagon
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thats what i figured

subtle pasture
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and I also realized w/ 5.3 that, Hythlo never referred to the friend as Azem or a Convocation seat bc of our defection,

static niche
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the adventuring ancient

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that like to solve problems him/herself

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with his/her comrades

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basically literally us

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XD

broken terrace
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Ahhh now I know Hythlo isnt part of convocation. Always thought they were. Thanks

static niche
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hyth is the other candidate for Emet-Salch

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they chose emet instead

heady shadow
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he ws supposed to get the emet selch title but declined it didnt he?

static niche
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cuz of his skills with underworld

subtle pasture
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He turned it down bc he likes to just observe,

static niche
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oh hyth turned it down?

spiral wagon
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i think i made mention a while back

subtle pasture
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Hades is better with the practical applications of their similar gifts

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"Practical"

static niche
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ah so that explains why hyth is more or less free willed

spiral wagon
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how the "gods" of eorzea had some connection with the presundered

static niche
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emet didn't want to have him be a mindless puppet

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out of respect

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or out of plan for us

coarse pond
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Wouldn't be surprised if Hydotaleus ended up being one of the sundered Scions. Maybe Minfilia maybe Yshtola

static niche
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nope

subtle pasture
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As Hythlo theorizes, Hades likely made an error in the construction of his Shade,

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"Hythlodaeus would notice," simple as that,

static niche
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from what i'm seeing we haven't met hyth's sundered self yet

timid solstice
subtle pasture
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which makes sense, given Hythlo had better perception than he,

timid solstice
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πŸ‘

gaunt star
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I thought "Shepherd" was a unique choice for the title you get at the end of all of that

static niche
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shephard

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of

gaunt star
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and the symbol on that orange crystal reminded me of Oschon a bit

static niche
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the

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SOULS

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/shot

spiral wagon
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hmmmmmmmm

subtle pasture
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Also, my thought is that Krile is a Hythlodaeus Shard,

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bc her echo is noted for being exceptionally sensitive

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and perceptive

static niche
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perhaps

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but i doubt it

spiral wagon
static niche
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cuz krile's useless

subtle pasture
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I know cryingcatto

untold gull
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wait - that krile theory sounds uh, possible

half tendon
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Hyth is also noted as being insufferably smug

static niche
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yes but

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I REFUSE

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TO ACCEPT

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THAT SUCH A COOL FELLOW

half tendon
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So I kinda buy into krile-hyth

static niche
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IS A FUCKING POTATO

rare sinew
untold gull
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lmao

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πŸ₯”

gaunt star
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so this might be a bit of a lore deep dive....but if all this jazz about Hydalyn and stuff is true then were The Twelve ever truly real "gods and goddess" or were they just kind of like primals?

subtle pasture
torpid yoke
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they were primals at most

static niche
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@gaunt star pretty muchu yeah

subtle pasture
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They might have been primals, they might have been solely mythological,

static niche
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all worshipped entity are primals

untold gull
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gaius did say it in prae

subtle pasture
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mind you, when Louisoix did the ritual in End of an Era, he summoned effigies of the Twelve, not them directly

stuck yarrow
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krilethlodaeus

static niche
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phoenix is the combination of all 12 made into desire to rejuvenate the broken lands

spiral wagon
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@gaunt star i think they have some connection to the ancients who summoned hydaelyn

subtle pasture
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The curious thing for me is that,

static niche
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that's why louisouix was able to YEET bahamut

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he had power of 12 primals

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xD

subtle pasture
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since Elidibus was an avatar sent forth by Zodiark,

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where's our homegirl Venat blobhyperthink

static niche
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with the shard ofc.

gaunt star
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@spiral wagon that's what I was thinking....because there was the Convocation of 14....and then there's The Twelve

static niche
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no idea

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venat is likely minfilia

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or was.

gaunt star
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and the symbol on the orange crystal looks a lot like Oschon's

spiral wagon
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i theorized this months ago

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after the expansion dropped

vivid notch
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I mean

subtle pasture
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Yeah, Word of the Mother might have been, but Minfilia was a mortal woman, born of Ala Mhigo,

vivid notch
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the symbol on the orange crystal is just the Alchemical Symbol of the Sun

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(or gold)

static niche
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considering the whole heart of hydaelyn would tends to be the person most imbued to hydaelyn's voice

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so minfilia seems like greatest possibility to be venat

vivid notch
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the circle with a dot in the middle

spiral wagon
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@gaunt star

static niche
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but that's no more cuz minfilia is dead

subtle pasture
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But the Word of the Mother is gone and Ryne doesn't appear to have as deep a connection to Hydaelyn as she did

static niche
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yeah

coarse pond
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@static niche one of her sundered parts

subtle pasture
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iirc she said uh,

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she senses her, but that's it,

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and like, ofc she would, Ryne is our super Light detector

static niche
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@coarse pond venat can't be sundered

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she's literally hydaelyn's heart

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lol

gaunt star
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Watch as Ryne and Gaia combine in the future to form the Heart of Hydaelyn

spiral wagon
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errr

tough fern
static niche
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otherwise we'd have another elibidus running around

tough fern
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Which one

static niche
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cough

coarse pond
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@static niche maybe that's why Hydaleyn doesn't have energy to speak to us anymore

tough fern
torpid yoke
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Activating combat mode

coarse pond
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She sundered herself as well maybe

torpid yoke
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*crisis core flash backs

gaunt star
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Venat has been split into Ryne and Gaia? @coarse pond

static niche
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i means

subtle pasture
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Mind you, Elidibus was sent before the Sundering,

static niche
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she not having energies is cuz she blocked most of the calamity damages

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right?

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from 1 to 7

subtle pasture
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though, Y'shtola marks it's odd that he existed fine after Zodi was sundered and sealed

torpid yoke
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why would she sunder herself when she needs her whole self to keep zodiark down

subtle pasture
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but little more was said there

static niche
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yeah

subtle pasture
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It's not sundering to send their Heart forward as Zodi did, but,

static niche
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elidibus said he left zodiark

subtle pasture
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we dunno what it is, exactly

gloomy shale
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How are the pug groups for Shiva Unreal?

static niche
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so he can be with the other two presundered ascians

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emet probably noticed something was wrong

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so he planned a long game

subtle pasture
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Then again, with Zodiark's temper,

torpid yoke
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the really long game

static niche
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a game that ended up failing once

subtle pasture
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they prob had no issue acknowledging Elidibus as Elidibus,

static niche
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with 8th calamity

subtle pasture
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despite really being a primal of Elidibus

static niche
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elibidus isn't a primal of elidibus

tough fern
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Is there anything Yoshida won't do what's next DBZ in XIV?

torpid yoke
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dont give him ideas

static niche
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it's still elibidus but corrupted by zodiark cuz he had to manifest into his heart

torpid yoke
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and we alreay have dbz with hades ATM

static niche
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meaning he have ALL of those prayers for salvations

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so much voices

subtle pasture
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he's referred to as "a primal of sorts" due to those prayers

static niche
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so much noise

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that he ends up losing himself

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and being a literal elidibus entity

subtle pasture
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--Does this mean Elidibus is literally the

static niche
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instead of the person before elidibus

subtle pasture
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"What if WoL is a primal"

torpid yoke
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So many voices he dont know who he is anymore

subtle pasture
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SE be like,

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"yeah, what if."

static niche
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i means

heady shadow
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they gve us our priml theory xD

static niche
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remember that trope theory

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where we were expected to fight a WoL at one point

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cuz of all worshiping us

mint axle
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Looks like activating the QTE in the WoL trial NM automatically revives dead people.

static niche
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but that was wrong in one way?

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xD

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cuz it ended up being just elidibus summoning other 'battle wills' of wols from other worlds onto himself and made himself the First WoL

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that said. FUCK THAT QTE

heady shadow
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xD

static niche
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SUCH ASS CLENCHING

heady shadow
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I love it

static niche
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HANDSOME FACE

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TURNED UGLY

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TRYING TO MASH THAT BUTTON

heady shadow
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hey.

static niche
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im not wrong

heady shadow
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emet sves our sses.

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so its worth xD

static niche
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you all clenched teeth, ass tighter that a speck of dust can't get through, throat clogged flexing and brows frowning all way down in maximum anger mode

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doing that qte

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with one arm stroking up and down as if you were rubbing one out in pure frustration with a finger

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i am NOT wrong fam

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accept the truth

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embrace it

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for it will be nerfed so we don't have to go through those again

heady shadow
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I didnt hve issues. I thought it ws fun.

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xD

wary perch
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I was shocked with the sudden drop in the qte

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And the bar barely moved back even I press as fast as I can

static niche
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yeah

untold gull
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it was a nice change

timid solstice
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and there's a dc

coarse pond
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Imagine doing that QTE on a controller

static niche
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imagine doing that qte and someone dc

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WHEEZE

coarse pond
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😩

static niche
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btw

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how do we know whose crystal is who?

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it's not like we put names on them

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xD

coarse pond
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You recognise constellation on it

static niche
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i didn't means those

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LOL

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but yeah whose is whose?

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for those too

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haha

rare sinew
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Oh. Ya mean when we are the deliveroo

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I mean, ya didnt clarify, but i suspect it involves sensing the aether

static niche
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we're not y'shtola

rare sinew
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Either that or we scribbled their names on it

coarse pond
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Doesn't sound like something SE thought of

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So let's call it plot armour

rare sinew
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I mean

coarse pond
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So we don't have typical anime theme of body swapping

rare sinew
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I wouldnt be surprised if when ya hold the crystal, you can feel the person

timid solstice
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first wipe in part 3

rare sinew
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Like if I hold Alphi's it's probably feels like books, politics, boring shit

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Then alisae's is just murder and WoL

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Would have loved a body swap gag between alisae and alphi

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Iike they wake up, oh shit, they've swapped, nah just kidding

radiant badger
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I'm tellin' ya, the hat just makes it all better

static niche
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i like how

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g'raha's tail

coarse pond
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Dunno, touching your boobs gag is kind of overdone

rare sinew
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You've yee-ed ya last hawww partner

radiant badger
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Also that

static niche
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starts wagging when he hears about the offer again

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XD

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he's so adorable

rare sinew
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I legitimately do not know the significance of Elidibus taking the form of the First's first WoL

static niche
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so now

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we have

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2 dps 3 healer 1 tank for scions

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that's 1 healer too many

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XD

rare sinew
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Was he the first WoL on the first?

static niche
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yes

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he possessed that WoL like lahabrea once did thancred i believe

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but unlike thancred, elibidus kept it for good

rare sinew
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Reasoning?

static niche
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the memory vision

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we saw the same WoL in there

stuck yarrow
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G'raha is finally living his dream he's gotta be so happy

rare sinew
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Nono, why did he become a WoL

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Or pretend to be

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Or wdeva

static niche
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uhm...

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to uphold his duty as elibidus

rare sinew
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Which is?

static niche
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salvation and world's truth

rare sinew
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I thought it was to mantain balance

wary perch
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He didn't possess the warrior of light though. He changed form into it after absorbing the other world wol

rare sinew
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Okok

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The First's first WoL

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Was that actually elidibus in disguise

static niche
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no.

coarse pond
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I'd guess Elidibus is in same situation as that tiny cute kid cat girl.

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Kid inspired by WoL

static niche
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my understanding is he basically possessed the WoL there

coarse pond
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But by the first WoL

static niche
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cuz WoL turned to look at Elidibus when elibidus was charging at him

rare sinew
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"WoL there" please clarify

static niche
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im trying to enjoy the msq here. just wait dammit

rare sinew
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Hahaha. Okok

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Go on then

wary perch
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Actually my theory is that first wol is the same first wol across all worlds and that's the image of azem. Azem is the first warrior of light back in ancient time and the story get pass throughout

rare sinew
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That would imply Azem was male

wary perch
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Not really

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We never saw the wol face in elidibus flash back

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And wol is just a title without gender

rare sinew
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Oh. I thought you meant that pic they had of the First's WoL

obsidian osprey
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interesting information...

rare sinew
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I think.. urianger showed us?

coarse pond
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Library guy in Crystarium did

rare sinew
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Ah. Gotcha

torpid yoke
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Well azem was the shepherd to the stars in the dark

static niche
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my god

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i like this new ascian fellow

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okay

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so

lunar hound
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but WHY IS BOWL CUT BACK?!

static niche
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the WoL shown in the memory is the same WoL in the book

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the original WoL of the First

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Elidibus seized him body and soul at some point of his adventure, whether known or not more likely he was starting to get famous and elidibus decided he was good start to create a fable. and became the WoL for the First

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keep in mind this is a shard of azem

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far weaker compared to elidibus as a true primal

coarse pond
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Wasn't Elidibus transformation just summoning a primal version of WoL and transforming like Shiva

torpid yoke
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wait when did they say this was a shard of azem

static niche
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in the trial? yes he was resummoning what he used to be

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@torpid yoke idk but i remember it being mentioned at some point

torpid yoke
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they never mentioned it

static niche
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stare

coarse pond
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WoL had Azim crystal with them the entire fight

static niche
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it's azem

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azim is the sun god lol

coarse pond
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YOU WILL FIND MY DEFENCES QUITE IMPENETRABLE

static niche
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so

torpid yoke
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azim is probably based on the exploits of Azem though

static niche
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g'raha used to be an archer right?

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he said he's doing conjurer again cuz he feel that might be more useful despite not having tower's connection anymore

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well

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technically he can do both but idk

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cnj and thm i means

untold gull
lunar hound
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I mean he has more accumulated experience casting spells than shooting arrows at this point

gaunt star
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ngl i'm sad he's not an archer. we have so many mages ):

sacred dew
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Needs more RDPS love

static niche
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WAIT

lunar hound
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should have given him a gun

static niche
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g'raha can go tank too?

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jeez i think they forgot he can't be exarch anymore

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xD

earnest sedge
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;-;

static niche
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grats

earnest sedge
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shit is fun

untold gull
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i just unlocked ex shake_eyes

gaunt star
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gun'raha

sacred dew
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The tank limit break mechanics were a surprise.. but a welcome one... its not often that tanks get to do that

lunar hound
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but seriously, BOOWWWLLL CUUUTTTTT!!! angry fist shaking

static niche
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i means

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bowl cut is now funny

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so yay

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XD

gaunt star
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they literally picked the most annoying npc's body to give to the most annoying ascian lol

lunar hound
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Yoshi-P is trolling us hard

static niche
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who else can be used?

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beside yostsuyu

sacred dew
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@gaunt star Zenos looks like he was about ready to scilence him himself.. a few times..

gaunt star
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true. i get there's not many options but.. man i dislike asahi :U guess we will get to kill him again at least

static niche
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lol

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wonder if we'll see gotesu again tho

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haven't seen him for an entire expansion now

lunar hound
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prob not

pine epoch
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I felt like while watching Fandaniel I was watching Jester/Arkham from DMC

static niche
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why not Joker?

gaunt star
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I keep wanting to call him fandango

pine epoch
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Like Zenos is Vergil in this instance and Fandaniel Arkham

static niche
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it's funny how

sacred dew
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I was wondering who the heck the npc was.. im like hes so familiarly annoying.. but who?... wait.. hes the BROTHER of the one person..

static niche
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there's ONE ascian

earnest sedge
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are there fflog rankings for WoL EX yet?

static niche
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who actually hated elidibus

earnest sedge
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or

static niche
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and he for some reason

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put value on $$$$$$

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XD

untold gull
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it makes me wonder if the shb theme is mostly about that WoL fight. but then again, it's the actual hades theme so....

lunar hound
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I think he hated all the unsundered

static niche
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NOT EMET

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i means lahabrea is understandable

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afterall that nabriele whelp hated him too

lunar hound
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nah he seemed very much happy that the entire 'old guard' had been wiped out

pine epoch
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I believe its agreed upon JC Miller is Derplanders Voice similar to how Susan Calloway is Hydaelyns voice when it comes to the Expac theme songs.

sacred dew
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I love the emet/Shiva snap sound...

untold gull
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dat sassy wave tho

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someone make a gif, quick!

sacred dew
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Its made.. but... somewhere

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Same with the image of tataru juggling a knife, axe, and a glass bottle...

Its somewhere.. but yeah...

untold gull
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eyy, discord provided it for me lmao

turbid aspen
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shes so talented :D

untold gull
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DISCORD HAS IT ALL