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#retired-patch-6-3-discussion
swift kraken
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tough fern
Near fatal isekai trip will do that
swift kraken
he has a chance
half tendon
Runar and G'raha: the simps who won
untold gull
Runar kinda made Y'shtola, um, softer i guess is the word?
untold gull
Btw, is no one seriously gonna acknowledge tataru managing to take a chunk out of the tower for raha's staff?
half tendon
I want ardbert and fray to do this for every MSQ going forward
carmine basin
She's Powerful
swift kraken
all tataru did was confirm that exarch housing aetheryte is possible
half tendon
Tataru's mining level is "yes"
untold gull
She made hi res bread, of course she's powerful
swift kraken
if you can tear a chunk of the ct out
carmine basin
But honestly she probably has people helping her, like the Ironworks staff there or Student of Baldesion
half tendon
You know how like
Eating an apple in animal crossing makes you strong enough to uproot a tree?
Tataru ate the bread and it made her strong enough to chip the crystal tower
carmine basin
"Miss Tataru, why do you need a chunk of the Crystal Tower...?"
"Don't ask questions you don't want answers to."
echo orbit
where do i go to check how many faux leaves I have?
untold gull
that... I can hear that line being canon lol
half tendon
The real tataru deeplore is
royal basin
the fact they laid the foundation for us hearing more from inner-voice ardbert in the future
clenches fist
half tendon
Did she gank G'raha for his measurements like she did to us
royal basin
all i wanted
half tendon
Inner AND outer voicen
pine epoch
Ok so that girl in 5.3 the miqote chick and then Elidibus fight. Here is a crazy crackpot theory. They were hinting at 6.0 jobs with those 2. Chemist/Apothecary and Mystic Knight
half tendon
Seems like ardbert can just... front if we let him?
carmine basin
I think they all got forced to take measurements
swift kraken
fray and ardbert are the wol protecc squad
pine epoch
Elidibus casting spellblade magick imbuing his sword with a element.
untold gull
Well, alisaie did also hint at 'personal growth'
swift kraken
yeah alisaie is gonna get a new dps job
half tendon
Elidibus using abilities from, like, every Job ruled
swift kraken
im guessing
half tendon
He used dives, spellblade stuff, magicks
carmine basin
neat edge
hope everyone saw the special guest in our inn room at the Pendants
untold gull
Ya, definitely dps. She's too trigger happy to sit on the sidelines
half tendon
I STILL WANT THEM TO HAVE IT JUST HAPPEN ABRUPTLY OFFSCREEN
swift kraken
they did say lack of personal development and then look at all the guys with their new classes lol
half tendon
Alphinaud walks around a corner and then like
untold gull
A friend made me aware of heavenseer/netherseer classes from tactics and rune knight is also a thing
swift kraken
scholar is perfect for alphinaud dont change it
half tendon
"oh no" horrible bone snapping sounds
carmine basin
"Alphy, when will YoshiP make us tall like our grandfather?"
"We're gonna stick to this height until the game ends, Alisaie."
untold gull
WAIT
swift kraken
forever doomed to be like 140cm
untold gull
WHAT IF 7.0 IS A TIME SKIP
untold gull
AND THEY ACTUALLY GROW
swift kraken
sick
half tendon
God can you imagine alphinaud just snapping up in height
untold gull
lol
carmine basin
Rielle is supposed to grow up soon
carmine basin
She said she's due for a growth spurt
swift kraken
but its somewhere on their to do list
neat edge
that would be the day they don't use a male midlander child body
untold gull
Also, we're definitely due for a graphical overhaul, aren't we
carmine basin
Alisaie and Alphinaud is gonna have a unique model/face at least
swift kraken
im gonna feel like a manlet when every single scion is gonna be taller than my cat
untold gull
Rune knight alisaie 
swift kraken
...except graha lol
royal basin
elezen growth spurt over one single night
swift kraken
if alphinaud grows up looking like aymeric
carmine basin
You still have Krile and Tataru
swift kraken
lol
royal basin
i would be fucking haunted by a tall alphinaud made with the player usable baby face elezen
half tendon
"well, the elezen growth spurt happens all at once"
"What do you mean all at once-" SNAP
half tendon
probably just have the actors adjust their pitch a bit?
carmine basin
When official art of elezen in seasonal events is hotter than the character creation one
untold gull
carmine basin
carmine basin
Fem elezen has
half tendon
Having a voice as high as theirs isn't unheard of for an adult elezen
carmine basin
Two faces?
untold gull
carmine basin
One with and without make up
swift kraken
compared to female miqotes and viera
half tendon
Haurchefant had a pretty high vouce
swift kraken
who all have 1 face each
carmine basin
I will check CC again
I tried making fem elezen and can only be happy with one face
swift kraken
elezen/hyur have the greater facial variety
half tendon
Doesn't like
carmine basin
Fem miqote and viera have varied faces, people just tend to use That One Face
half tendon
Lyse have a weird kitbashed model
carmine basin
Oh that's what you mean
untold gull
Yeah, lyse is supposed to be that one race but said to be the other, something like that
swift kraken
miqote is just idk
half tendon
Where she's a Highlander But Not Really because Highlanders weren't in when yda first appeared or something?
carmine basin
She's a fem highlander but her 1.0 model was midlander
So they stuck with midlander model
Same with Minfillia
swift kraken
i think catgirls are the height of societies achievement but i like my women looking like elezen and not femqote
my life truly is hard..
half tendon
playable gnath when
neat edge
cat eyes/not cat eyes, sun vs moon
swift kraken
half tendon
Honestly from what I remember about garlean models
Adding a garlean race would... Probably require way less modelwork than other options
swift kraken
yeah but
half tendon
Because the tall garleans are just custom elezen
carmine basin
The problem is they can't manipulate aether
untold gull
have a hyur and put some third eye shit on their face
carmine basin
Yeah
half tendon
Echo?
half tendon
But then you have to like
carmine basin
Also Eorzeans hate Garlean
swift kraken
it was established in sb that garleans cant awaken echo unless you cheat
so no bueno
half tendon
Even if you go "you have the echo it's fine" you would still have to rewrite... SO much dialogue
untold gull
so garleans are people who essentially only existed after the sundering
swift kraken
just pretend your hyur is a garlean
carmine basin
I think you'd have to hide your mark like Cid did
swift kraken
and mod an eye or something idk
half tendon
Every single job questline becomes "HOW THE FUCK DID YOU DO THAT YOU AREN'T SUPPOSED TO DO MAGIC"
royal basin
bang hair options only
that's one of those things where it's like - if this was a single player game, it could be a neat-ass option
untold gull
well, you have bun buns who aren't supposed to be outside their country
carmine basin
Cid also threw the garlean part of his name, now that I realize
half tendon
Hm
carmine basin
From Cid nan Garlond to Cid Garlond
swift kraken
they went out to adventure
untold gull
what about big cat daddies
half tendon
Was awakening to the echo actually deconfirmed
untold gull
deconfirmed how
half tendon
I can see a pretty solid line of explanation for Zenos not awakening even with his dreams of amaurot
untold gull
experiments and with krile's echo helped him get said echo
half tendon
alternative hypothesis: it seems awakening to the echo is, like... a soul-deep trauma response of some sort
swift kraken
...well yes
half tendon
And it just doesn't happen for Zenos because he doesn't care
swift kraken
its cause hes a garlean
half tendon
Yeah 5.3 made that stronger like
royal basin
that one elezen didn't hear the echo but was very emotionally affected by amarot
half tendon
You can clearly be sundered and not awaken
swift kraken
he sucks at manipulating aether aka he cant do it
half tendon
Per all the guys going "I feel like I've lost something but can't quite place it"
royal basin
generational ptsd but soul-wise and not genetic
half tendon
And it would seem that like
half tendon
That feeling of loss is important to it? Maybe?
royal basin
i feel like zenos has his own thing going on that isn't like traditional magic but is part and parcel of the unsundered genes + whatever further fuckery emet did + modification
viscid monolith
Zenos has Magitek that allows him to do what he does
swift kraken
at least a very tiny part of them
so yeah it makes sense that reawakening that memory in the soul would give you that power back
viscid monolith
His golf bag isn't just for show. It infuses his katanas with aether the same way a Samurai does.
half tendon
He doesn't use the golf bag anymore though
swift kraken
thought it was for golfing
royal basin
hm
viscid monolith
He doesn't need it now of course
half tendon
And he can fucking teleport, I have NO idea how he picked that trick up
royal basin
i'm reminded of that one short story about zenos' childhood lemme see if i can dig that up
viscid monolith
But that's the purpose it served before
half tendon
Oh yeah
viscid monolith
A bunch of Garleans can teleport
half tendon
That one time Zenos used magic as a kid
half tendon
By brute-forcing his body into letting the aether out
viscid monolith
Zenos shoved a crystal into his hand. It vented the aether out of his body and instantly killed his teacher
tough fern
Oh Lyna.,...this goodbye is hitting hard
royal basin
exactly i don't think that's a one-time thing
tough fern
I'm gonna miss Norvrandt
half tendon
I'm sure we'll find out more about Zenos going forward
royal basin
he's got his own special fuckery
viscid monolith
That in particular was a one time thing, but that moment is what spurred his lifetime of experimentation
half tendon
I still think that he might have been blocked from awakening the echo by his apathy to... everything, rather than a physical barrier
tough fern
Oh the exarch minion
sick vine
almost makes me wanna stop continuing the story just to admire it
tough fern
Whose cutting onions
half tendon
but I guess we'll know for sure if we ever see a garlean natural echo user lol
viscid monolith
He probably just can't naturally awaken the echo. It's not something everyone can do.
tough fern
carmine basin
Tali try talking to G'raha about the minion
half tendon
Grabbing Gaius by the throat and going "HEY STARE AT THIS METEOR SHOWER"
gaunt star
Yall
Sweat physics in this game confirmed
vivid notch
I'm sad that the WoL is the 14th, was hoping they would pull a curveball
they didn't
half tendon
Honestly that cutscene with the latest garlean bastard was also very impressive animation wise
Also is legatus power armor like... One cohesive suit that you step into or out of like fallout power armor
carmine basin
The amount of detail on his animation makes me Uncomfortable
Why are you making me watch someone's sweat dripping
royal basin
he made me uncomfy in general but that's the point
carmine basin
carmine basin
I can exactly hear his lines in a super villain voice
half tendon
We had like
gaunt star
Miqo sweat physics confirmed for the future
carmine basin
One of those villains that had a cheery but evil voice
half tendon
A couple of "you're a bastard but under other circumstances I can see you having ended up an ally" legati
half tendon
Like Gaius and Regula... I could see either of them having ended up as our friends had history gone differently?
This new legatus? Holy fuck no
He is MADE of bad vibes
gaunt star
Also we've been getting some decent cutscene animations with this patch
Even if sometomes characters flail their arms weirdly like noodles or whatever
carmine basin
They still don't hug each other tho
royal basin
yeah right, all that attention to detail in something technically optional
oh MOOD aya
carmine basin
You'd think Lyna and Ryne would hug their dads
half tendon
Like fandaniel stepping over the bodies
gaunt star
Yeah thancred should've hugged ryne
Goddammit it
But yeah, character's aren't that stiff anymore
vivid notch
oh speaking of Ryne's dad
gaunt star
vivid notch
I'm revoking Thancred's father rights
he didn't even say a "I'll do my best to come back" just a "lol whatever sink or swim bitch"
Cell would be proud
unique verge
Going back isnt a realistic option
carmine basin
Why would he need to come back? He doesn't need to watch over Ryne anymore
vivid notch
didn't stop Shtola
gaunt star
Ryne becomes a badass gunbreaker in the future
vivid notch
because he likes her?
gaunt star
unique verge
Yeah but she was flat out just bullshitting at that point
carmine basin
And they can still correspondence with each other through WoL
She's also interested in being able to travel between rifts, as a scholar
vivid notch
I dunno but if I like someone I eventually miss them and want to visit
unique verge
The only reason why the WoL is even able to do it is because gameplay reasons.
untold gull
y'shtola did say she'll be studying how to do that
vivid notch
and I'm a hermit
carmine basin
So it's more like "I want to study this and I can also visit my friends if I succeed"
gaunt star
Given that thancred can't even teleport, I doubt he'll ever be able to go back, no matter how much he wants to see her again
carmine basin
Yeah
unique verge
the G'raha that died should have disabled the ability for the WoL to hop back and forth, but gameplay
gaunt star
so thats probably why he didn't outright say "we'll see each other again" or some such
swift kraken
actually-
unique verge
so for anyone else to imply that they can, is ridiculous
swift kraken
hold on
he may
not have died
didnt he say if he died the scions would be back
vivid notch
again, could've said that he'd try
vivid notch
if he cared
unique verge
He gone
vivid notch
as I said, his dad rights are revoked
unique verge
CT no longer has power on the First
vivid notch
Ran'jit is Ryne's dad again
carmine basin
He didn't want to give her false hopes
gaunt star
He dead
carmine basin
And I don't think it needs to be said that Thancred would want to be with her
gaunt star
carmine basin
They both didn't want to make the good bye harder for both of them
unique verge
I mean, you're a Lyse fan, so i can understand why you'd have other bad opinions
lul
vivid notch
"fan" is a harsh word
swift kraken
ranjit literally like
pseudo umbra
Anyone got a list of the variations of dialogue during the second boss of puppet’s bunker?
since it seems to change depending on which 2 get killed first
swift kraken
abused her
golden nebula
vivid notch
yeah
swift kraken
to lock someone into a room
gaunt star
Also weird how they mention ranjit held ryne dear
like I get thats what they wanted to imply in Shadowbringers but they did a bad job at showing it
half tendon
The WoL really is just a mobile Traumatised Old Person Euthanasia Service huh
carmine basin
Yeah he's one of those overprotective parents that end up abusing their kids "out of love"
golden nebula
Tbf
tough fern
Yessssss they keep their new jobs
gaunt star
Its understandable
tough fern
Yesssssssssssss
swift kraken
good reason, still child abuse
tough fern
Yessssssssssssssss
gaunt star
vivid notch
but, as explained before, Thancred lost dad rights
unique verge
Huh?
golden nebula
Ranjit didn't get enough time to have a personality
vivid notch
so it defaults to Ran'jit
swift kraken
thancred is fine
vivid notch
sadly
gaunt star
Bad take
carmine basin
What
golden nebula
And thancred was so far into brooding I was ready to attack him everytime with mini-minfilla
carmine basin
Also Ryne still has us watching over her
golden nebula
till he finally got his shit together
carmine basin
And Gaia
half tendon
ryne can handle herself
vivid notch
huh true
golden nebula
And like
vivid notch
I guess it defaults to WoL then, not Ran'jit
golden nebula
All the other groups tol
vivid notch
fair enough
carmine basin
Thancred can go since he trained Ryne to stand up for herself
golden nebula
Ryne will not hurt for friends tho I wished we could've taken her too
vivid notch
remember when I said that he left with a "lol sink or swim bitch?" yeah
gaunt star
Yall
I shed a tear when Ardbert got to talk with Seto again
unique verge
Thancred literally has no feasible way to go back, less than any other character, and if he stayed he dies. If you're giving him shit for that, your opinion is stupid.
tough fern
Alisae with the all the emotes
tough fern
Amazing lol
golden nebula
||She got to be in our "closest friends" vision!! LET ME TAKE HER BACK SQUARE||
unique verge
Alisaie fucking headdesk was a mood
carmine basin
Yall
I shed a tear when Ardbert got to talk with Seto again
@gaunt star ME TOO 😭
golden nebula
Trust with seto
untold gull
that closure with seto was just... 
half tendon
Look, ryne has her uh... let's go with friend Gaia
carmine basin
WHEN HE RUBS SETO'S HEAD
tough fern
THE BOI
golden nebula
swift kraken
i love seto so much
carmine basin
AND SETO CLOSES HIS EYES IN CONTENT
untold gull
tough fern
HE LIVES
gaunt star
I managed to compose myself with Elidibus and the exarch
But when they the two saw each other
Shit
half tendon
remember to pat the birdhorse
untold gull
then seto deciding to also go in journey like his friend
carmine basin
Gonna pet my cat now
neat edge
Thancred changed his hair to the shb style
untold gull
dem emotes are necessary
swift kraken
untold gull
ya, same
vivid notch
it's sad that Seto got me more emotional than like 90% of the other characters lmao
swift kraken
actally i started crying when we got the soul crystals
half tendon
Who else can't wait for the extremely painful elidibus fanart
golden nebula
||tho this was me watching alisaie complain about no new outfits or jobs for her and alphinaud||
vivid notch
other than Ryne because that's just fucked up
tough fern
He's a scion???????????
golden nebula
Don't tease me like this square!!
vivid notch
Seto was a goodun
gaunt star
Yeah I said this before
This hurt more than "remember we once lived"
swift kraken
yes tali
tough fern
Asdfghjkl
tough fern
ASDFGHJKL
neat edge
alisae wanted some development
tough fern
Breaks
neat edge
i nearly spit-taked
swift kraken
untold gull
half tendon
She's mad she can't reach the top shelves
golden nebula
I haven't been that emotional since I played tales of the abyss
swift kraken
esp. when i saw that image later
gaunt star
Then the WoL just standing in silence in front of the crystallized exarch
golden nebula
gaunt star
Shit man
unique verge
I felt nothing for Elidibus' death, because he was nothing more than a sad imitation of the original.
swift kraken
wol actually looked like he had emotions
vivid notch
that would be way more impactful for me if I actually didn't want the exarch to die lmao
swift kraken
thats how i felt
vivid notch
I was hoping the whole time
swift kraken
golden nebula
Honestly I'm HYPED for 6.0
swift kraken
just so many changes in expression
untold gull
our wol crying for cat boi tho
golden nebula
||WoL clutching the crystal as raha turns to stone||
gaunt star
I've never played a game that's made me feel this sad
swift kraken
gaunt star
golden nebula
AhHHH
swift kraken
like - i knew raha was gonna be back but
untold gull
yeah, lol, my friend said there was a weird expression his dude made during that cutscene
swift kraken
this hit me
like a truck
at
140mph
directly at my body, flinging me into the nearest ditch
unique verge
I'm just glad that G'raha's "trump card" wasnt some deus ex machina bullshit
tough fern
We get go on adventures
gaunt star
I'll be honest
I had a full on boner when this shit happened
vivid notch
to be fair to Thancred he was good for like a few quests
tough fern
At last
vivid notch
which is already better than G'raha
untold gull
his trump card was something we all forgot which was nice
swift kraken
i love this anime shit
north fulcrum
golden nebula
Man those lb bars scared the shit outta me
gaunt star
I almosr expected each person he summoned to be a protagonist from past FF games
I wouldve nutted right then and there
swift kraken
i live for this anime shit
golden nebula
I've never heal spammed so much
gaunt star
But this is cool nonetheless
swift kraken
the only other time i nutted this hard was during hades trial twice
actually
i nutted again during elidibus
because
gaunt star
subtle pasture
Know what bugs me about Puppets' Bunker
vivid notch
WoL was a pretty fun fight
swift kraken
7 other people
golden nebula
My whole group lost their minds at the handwave
subtle pasture
Literally just that the black uniformed androids in the unlock are a fake-out
gaunt star
I was like SHIT when he turned into the WoL from ff1
vivid notch
but now I want LB4
golden nebula
We also died to the button mash 
to be fair
That mash was brutal and unexpected
untold gull
dude, the amano style is strong on WoL
gaunt star
The button mash doesn't compare to hades tho
untold gull
god, i love that so much
swift kraken
hades was easier
golden nebula
Honestly
swift kraken
screaming while mashing
swift kraken
because i thought id fail
half tendon
a fuckin azem flashback
golden nebula
I thought the coolest fight toll 6.0 would be ruby weapon
swift kraken
vivid notch
nah fuck that I want to see every class get a LB4
half tendon
and it's the exact same position we were in with Elidibus at the end of 5.3
golden nebula
I was wrONG
vivid notch
get on it SEnix, chop chop
half tendon
but it's the Azem model instead of our player
untold gull
WoL button mashing is harder. because it requires all of your party to actually succeed
half tendon
comforting a scared kid
golden nebula
Its his body and he's so
golden nebula
Over the top like emet was at first
gaunt star
Zeno is like "what is this idiot doing"
swift kraken
god
half tendon
i'm honestly convinced that the someone elidibus made a promise to was us
swift kraken
dont remind me of
swift kraken
4.5 emet
vivid notch
just like
tough fern
He looks so bored lol
gaunt star
Yeah likewise
half tendon
Fuckin fandaniel is like
vivid notch
"jesus christ dude it's 5am and I haven't had coffee yet, quiet down a bit"
swift kraken
half tendon
Emet-Selch but he runs on cartoon logic
golden nebula
4.5 emet
shot through the heart, and YOU'RE TO BLAME
swift kraken
half tendon
You know how in, like... DMC5 it's like that fucking van is from another planet with how ridiculously wacky it is even compared to everyone else?
that's fandaniel
carmine basin
Literally just that the black uniformed androids in the unlock are a fake-out
@subtle pasture this and the Elidibus vibe check taught me not to trust trailers
half tendon
he's so ridiculous he makes emet look like the straight man
golden nebula
LOL
half tendon
shit he makes ZENOS play the straight man
swift kraken
that was so fucking funny
vivid notch
that cutscene cemented Zenos as the actual best
golden nebula
I still love
swift kraken
it literally turned out to be LESS THAN NOTHING
carmine basin
HE HIT HIM FOR NO REASON
gaunt star
The WoL a day after destroying the combined hopes and dreams of billions of people and ending a legacy thousands of eons long
floral schooner
Oh this is relevant again
untold gull
lmao
golden nebula
Zenos flat
"...who are you?"
swift kraken
HE JUST WANTED TO SEE HOW DENSE HIS SOUL IS
carmine basin
"oh your soul is dense"
swift kraken
floral schooner
carmine basin
THAT'S IT
half tendon
LMAO
tough fern
Zenos is just like
Where's my friend
vivid notch
also I like how Zenos just fucked Asahi's whole shit up
half tendon
"how big is that dick katana"
"small leave me alone"
golden nebula
vivid notch
even after his death
untold gull
so i replayed it again in unending journey....
carmine basin
Hey my soul is pretty dense, wanna stab it? 😉
swift kraken
PAIN
gaunt star
vivid notch
Elidiboob is pretty 'ight
carmine basin
It's a good thing Asahi is already dead
gaunt star
half tendon
How tall is that elidibus model standing up
carmine basin
He would've been shocked and hurt if Zenos doesn't remember him
half tendon
He's like... REALLY small right?
golden nebula
carmine basin
vivid notch
he sucked
swift kraken
hes very tiny
vivid notch
he was a good villain
gaunt star
Why did we get the option to say "I don't feel like I did the right thing" after that fight
swift kraken
this is child size
gaunt star
vivid notch
few villains in FF make me despise them
untold gull
i'm tempted to draw the entire convocation much like that one full spread page in bokurano at the end...
golden nebula
They were ALL good villans this time
golden nebula
I'll be honest I was v bored in stormblood
vivid notch
oh shit someone else knows Bokurano
lmao
the pain
I just want to fight him shirtless in the rain
untold gull
golden nebula
Zenos just
Didn't intrest me beyond hes terrfying first fight with the slow advancement
gaunt star
What if like
Zenos summons Zodiark and eats him to become a primal and that's the final trial of 6.0
half tendon
iunno @gaunt star , maybe the WoL just feels really bad about killing him
gaunt star
swift kraken
5.3 preparation gear
carmine basin
Why did we get the option to say "I don't feel like I did the right thing" after that fight
@gaunt star I think it's because we were hoping to talk and make peace with Elidibus, but we ended up killing him
gaunt star
I have a feeling thats what going to happen
royal basin
vore your gods
half tendon
The moment of "oh fuck did i just kill a kid"
golden nebula
Also the revlation that he was literally like
vivid notch
gods I wish that doesn't happen
golden nebula
A kid that became the heart/concept
vivid notch
let me just fight Zenos straight up
half tendon
like no matter how much of a bastard elidibus was he's
untold gull
ya, if you know that full page spread i'm talking about - that's how i see the convocation going. except Azem being left behind
floral schooner
With so much emphasis on trying to reason with emet and Elidibus I feel like one of these days it might actually pay off
vivid notch
no voring shit
half tendon
he's a child. the WoL is gonna have to process that.
vivid notch
just him
half tendon
I really hope it does
swift kraken
when is the wol gonna have an emotion breakdown so hard that he explodes
gaunt star
yeah i know
but like
I know it was wrong
why did the game let me acknowledge it
swift kraken
prisma vine
watch like we actually get fandaniel to listen to us. and then zenos ruins it
golden nebula
That was the drk questline
half tendon
I want us to manage to save one of the ascians
unique verge
Why? It stopped being Elidibus ages ago. What you killed was a sad imitation that got yanked out of Zodiark.
unique verge
I felt absolutely nothing for him
swift kraken
its still sad
golden nebula
Tho I love how weary the WoL could be after hw
golden nebula
The end of 5.3 it feels like we got our helping spirit back a bit
gaunt star
The fact that he's just a fragment trying to fix everything makes it more depressing
vivid notch
I want Zenos to be the goose of FFXIV
subtle pasture
It's more like, that certainly was Elidibus,
golden nebula
swift kraken
i have an immense weakness for people who do things but dont know better
untold gull
subtle pasture
but I don't think we could ever call it the true name of the Elidibus that became the Heart
swift kraken
like my heart just broke
subtle pasture
...if that makes sense
royal basin
mood dame
vivid notch
and like no matter how many times the WoL kills him he just comes back to stir up more shit
subtle pasture
But now,
gaunt star
Also quick reminder to something I never forgot about
golden nebula
I kinda want franny to :🔪
gaunt star
vivid notch
because he is too angry/bored to stay dead
gaunt star
half tendon
we kill zenos and the TRUE FINAL BOSS APPEARS:
carmine basin
I feel like he's gonna be the 5.5 trial but who knows
subtle pasture
if Zodiark was able to invoke Elidibus as an avatar, a primal of sorts.
gaunt star
He got his wish
swift kraken
finally
half tendon
LAHABREA 2
subtle pasture
where the heckie is Venat 
swift kraken
im glad bro u waited 100 years
floral schooner
We had no choice at the end of the day. We offered Elidibus an olive branch and he was set on killing us. It was kill or be killed.
But I feel like Fandaniel might be the one we actually reason with. Might make him actually interesting
golden nebula
God
swift kraken
lets go eat some fucking orangeeeeeesssssssss
golden nebula
Lalasnore
swift kraken
carmine basin
G'raha can now join me in farming tomes
golden nebula
The botanist no one likes
untold gull
i don't think we can reason with fandaniel. not in the way we tried to with emet and eli anyway
golden nebula
Got eaten by the pope after fusing
untold gull
he seems to be just dead set on causing chaos for fun
prisma vine
i'm still calling it now. we finally get an ascian to listen to us. we get them on our side. and then it gets ruined. either that or somehow we get zenos on our side and fandaniel ruins it
or maybe zodiark
swift kraken
the thought of graha being extremely excited to do fetch quests with you is very funny in my head
golden nebula
Also fananiel
gaunt star
Okay but like, there are a bunch of sad ardbert moments in shadowbringers but the most heartbreaking one is probably this
carmine basin
G'raha's expectation: beating primals, finding lost treasure
Reality: visiting sastasha for the 3838th time because a child wants stories
vivid notch
oh gods
golden nebula
Clearly if Eli was still around he expected him to stop or interfere
vivid notch
it'd make even fucking G'raha becoming a scion worth it
swift kraken
clearly theyre going to make the villain and war criminal be on our side
untold gull
i still wish for the day they create a cutscene where it's implied we're the one talking
vivid notch
and he doesn't even has a change of heart
untold gull
even if not voiced
swift kraken
the most logical conclusion
vivid notch
he is still just as shitty as before
golden nebula
Zenos joins to fuck franny up
golden nebula
Same personality just he kills what you kinda want now
Like gauis
Who I am also a ok to murder whenever
vivid notch
hell yeah
static niche
so
golden nebula
Like I love gauis as a character but his viewpoints also exactly the same
half tendon
Gaius is like
half tendon
Interesting to me
floral schooner
Zenos joins the scions.
"So my friend. My greatest enemy, what are we doing today"
"My greatest enemy is fucking Rowena let me show you why"
golden nebula
Eventually we will be at odds again
static niche
elibidus wearing lota gears or is it different
unique verge
i still wish for the day they create a cutscene where it's implied we're the one talking
@untold gull
That technically exists, just go play DRK, duh.
half tendon
Also god can you imagine if we actually get a "while the quiet hours away as friend and confidant" thing with zenos
untold gull
oh
carmine basin
Oh I was checking datamine stuff and
half tendon
even if it's just a very brief truce
untold gull
dude, i'm still lvl 35 on that class
carmine basin
half tendon
OH NO
swift kraken
pog?
golden nebula
NO
unique verge
Oh geez
vivid notch
"listen I don't give a shit, just point me at the thing you want dead and hope it gives me good sport or else I'm going to kill everyone in the vicinity too"
golden nebula
NO POG
swift kraken
pog
untold gull
it means i have more to look forward to with drk 
golden nebula
I mean
half tendon
WE'RE ALL ALPHINAUD NOW
swift kraken
god look at those
skintight pants
why
alphinaud you are committing fashion crimes my boy
untold gull
what the hell is that
golden nebula
Zenos did kill dad just because black rose threatened the wol
floral schooner
floral schooner
Yea
untold gull
golden nebula
untold gull
i'm ready
static niche
i like
golden nebula
Do it
golden nebula
Big soul needs big crystal
swift kraken
untold gull
floral schooner
untold gull
wtf
static niche
make one wonder if emet knew that it could do that too
considering he helped us in the trial too
untold gull
it was just a shade of emet
vivid notch
zenos.jpeg
golden nebula
untold gull
to whom it may aggravate
frozen spade
HOW THE FUCK YOU CANT HEAL TRUE LIVIING DEAD
untold gull
hahaha
static niche
true living dead is how DRK should be
unique verge
Welcome to all night for me Silent
static niche
oh wait it already is
swift kraken
tbh using CT to trap elidibus was very smart
golden nebula
I'm so sorry
frozen spade
made a party for add prog, fucking healers keep letting us die to true living dead. The first fucking mechanic
unique verge
I'm ready to be clearing at this point.
untold gull
tbh how is it none of use realized crystal tower is a big damn auracite
floral schooner
Why cure 3 when you can medica 1 spam
unique verge
some fuckwit doesnt know basics of phase 1
vivid notch
it's a giant fucking crystal
swift kraken
"trump card" i was like graha are you going to kill yourself on top of elidibus
half tendon
have any special trust dialogue if you take him to a dungeon you couldn't do with him originally
swift kraken
i wasnt too far off
vivid notch
when the Exarch said he had a plan I immediately went like "oh okay you are going to sacrifice yourself to trap him in the tower cool"
golden nebula
Can I just say
vivid notch
I just hoped that you know
floral schooner
I love that 24 man raids are a Thing now. Like, actually story relevant
vivid notch
the Exarch would die too
swift kraken
its ok we get it you dont like him
golden nebula
I loved the shot of Graha running with the WoL
stuck yarrow
Yeah we get it
floral schooner
I look forward to seeing how the Mach raids will tie in
vivid notch
but I loathe Void Ark more
golden nebula
And then his fucking ankle gives out like a grandpa
vivid notch
Void Ark and the whole sky pirate thing suuuuucks
untold gull
glacial turret
swift kraken
check out the best image in the universe
golden nebula
No
untold gull
the void ark story was meh but i do love the raid itself
carmine basin
When is this https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/226353385706618880/742583734922117152/SPOILER_068777-1.png
GIMME SMALL AMARO BABY
swift kraken
omg
half tendon
baby...
swift kraken
i want one
golden nebula
I NEED IT
golden nebula
half tendon
g'raha at the end of 5.3 be like
swift kraken
ardbert minion was datamined too wasnt it
carmine basin
I think the amaro minion has been there since 5.2?
swift kraken
i want one
half tendon
👍
untold gull
man, what are the chances i get heroes' gauntlet for expert 
carmine basin
Ye khadame
untold gull
i'm hoping i do
stuck yarrow
I'm never unsummoning my wind up mystel
carmine basin
Guessinf it's for rising
static niche
so
stuck yarrow
it's the only minion i need forever
static niche
ascians are done
swift kraken
ive had graha summoned since i finished 5.0
static niche
right?
floral schooner
I liked void ark story. Was cool to see what happened with mach and the void stuff is cool to me
static niche
don't you dare mention him
stuck yarrow
I wonder if we'll ever get a hood up minion
golden nebula
....I haven't done either story yet
swift kraken
probably not
vivid notch
oh gods that's right
swift kraken
im surprised it wasnt the hood up minion we got
golden nebula
Man I liked the ivalice dungeon
vivid notch
eh Ivalice was fine
stuck yarrow
We get it
vivid notch
TG Cid was a dope fight
stuck yarrow
you don't like g'raha
golden nebula
I just wish I liked the characters more
vivid notch
the whole Prima Vista stuff was shit
swift kraken
#retired-patch-6-3-discussion except everytime duck complains about graha im posting more images of him
vivid notch
but the raids themselves were okay
golden nebula
They were all grade a "only think about myself" assholes
frozen spade
also fun fact
swift kraken
that being said check out his render
frozen spade
one of my "healers" had the TEA title and weapon
stuck yarrow
ugh I wanna do bozja citadel but i have yet to complete Ivalice
G'RAHA RENDER G'RAHA RENDER
golden nebula
Square show off his shoulders dammit
royal basin
they gave gwaha elezen neck
carmine basin
WHERE DO YOU GET HIS RENDER
viscid monolith
Real talk
carmine basin
i need it HQ
vivid notch
LMAo
swift kraken
the wiki lol
vivid notch
they did
golden nebula
That said I'm happy his tail is back
half tendon
G'RAHA TIA, NOW AVAILABLE IN HD
stuck yarrow
the website maybe?
vivid notch
the giraffe neck
viscid monolith
I hated every boss in Puppet's Bunker
carmine basin
Let me check
vivid notch
I like him more now
floral schooner
It was a mess tbh. The bangs came for aide so they kidnapped alma only they didn't kidnap her and after being so hyper they just.... Go stale
swift kraken
oh thats another graha image
stuck yarrow
nice pfp
viscid monolith
The boss I hated least was the 3rd one
swift kraken
thanks google
half tendon
this is good
vivid notch
no go back to the twig neck one
radiant badger
Alright I'm not sure he's a random spawn. Think he might always appear here.
viscid monolith
But all the other bosses sucked
vivid notch
ye the storyline was pretty bad, but the raids themselves were ok
half tendon
Maybe it requires the whole party to have finished stormblood hildy
radiant badger
Still neat.
floral schooner
The true best character in ffxiv
vivid notch
okay TG Cid was dope and the rest were varying degrees of meh
golden nebula
Ive
carmine basin
Nier was underwhelming this patch
half tendon
(unless you press the toggle on trust g'raha)
stuck yarrow
Am i about to make G'raha's 5.3 render my phone lockscreen? yes
golden nebula
I've not dont any of the hilda quests
vivid notch
I'm a bitch for Agrias Oaks and her fight was okay
swift kraken
who aint
stuck yarrow
Honestly I just have limited tolerance for alliance raids in general lmao
golden nebula
How do I spoil warning an image on mobile
vivid notch
at the end of the day Ivalice is worth for TG Cid which is a legit dope fight
stuck yarrow
you don't
floral schooner
Rename it so it has SPOILER_ infront
golden nebula
stuck yarrow
The only way i think is posting the image as a link and tagging that
swift kraken
THE EARS 
stuck yarrow
G'raha ears G'raha ears
golden nebula
God your emotes fill me with fear
golden nebula
StOPP
swift kraken
stuck yarrow
his minions have ear wiggles it's great
golden nebula
I give you ears and you do this??
floral schooner
swift kraken
i gave you the holy render
carmine basin
Ahh the website doesn't have HQ render yet
stuck yarrow
His lil hairpins
swift kraken
why do his hairpins not spell out xiv
stuck yarrow
we can see his tail now
swift kraken
smh my head
stuck yarrow
All is right
carmine basin
She ended up being not important lmao
golden nebula
I swear he got shorter
static niche
idk aya
swift kraken
no
static niche
what if
swift kraken
hes the same height
prisma vine
oh we knew she wouldn't be lol
static niche
she is the TEASER for necromancer job next expansion
golden nebula
As exarch he was level with my character
static niche
😂
golden nebula
Now my wol is taller
viscid monolith
Well ya of course she wasn't important lmao
swift kraken
also it might just be
stuck yarrow
Everytime the WoL does something great he shrinks an inch
swift kraken
his catboy pos
floral schooner
Necromancer healer
carmine basin
People: SHE'S TIUNA
golden nebula
He slouch
viscid monolith
Who thought she would be important