lets talk
#retired-patch-6-3-discussion
heady shadow
you think she'll find a way to cross over?
vivid notch
Runar is a simp
heady shadow
(inb4 it's just masterd flow spell)
swift kraken
love them
rain badger
WTF
slim egret
Runar will never get together with yshtola
faint dagger
runar is absolutely a bottom. like i don't even care to discuss this but that's just an obvious
slim egret
Maybe u have a fetish u don't know about @rain badger
rain badger
maybe lmao
stuck yarrow
Does his holy spam do actual holy damage and not split damage like y’shtola’s AOE?
rain badger
The stuff I follow
is as far away from foot stuff as possible
p_p
algorithtem pls
severe brook
so you have a scalp massage asmr obsession, then?
haughty forum
i am curious, anyone noticed that elidibus aether/soul bubble thing went into the tower? i might be reaching here, but we might not have seen the last of him
swift kraken
reaching
rain badger
idek
I looked at my follows
my likes
and tweets
my SEARCHES
to see if I've done anything related to foot stuff
and its all science articles, games and I'm like
????????????????
swift kraken
faint dagger
at one point, some time, I really wanna see g'raha use the tower as an orbital laser
'perish' and deathbeams just shoot from the top of the tower and delete something
gaunt star
lmao
told the guy he doesnt need a brain to clear SoC
since they were making calculations n shit
swift kraken
im glad trust thancred still holds aggro like a drunk man trying to aim a beer bottle
gaunt star
we cleared with my brute force suggestion and he told me i suck 😔
and he left while i was watching the cutscene
lilac crest
its a decent looking gnb weapon
but I'm prolly getting hellhound one
I feel like this would look good with eureka gear
gaunt star
hmm
it doesnt look bad tbh
textools doesnt work so i cant model swamp and see them myself 😔
lilac crest
yes
stuck yarrow
According to reddit G’raha also actually uses caster limit break on trash
I barely have to heal Thancred so he has that going for him
And it would seem G’raha has different trust AI than the Exarch
grand parcel
how in the fucking world did no one find the bunker when it's so close to the dwarves
wary perch
Under the mountain
wary perch
I thought it exploded inside the mountain
grand parcel
That's true, there's still fire, the bunker probably destroyed the mountain
grand parcel
Anyways time to queue up--30 minutes?!
unreal wadi
but then again
most of the bunker was
intact
like the command centre
I need to rave about the fending coat from the raid
I fucking love
it
unreal wadi
Got it first try, & it looks so good
faint dagger
not sure if that hides or exacerbates elezen neck
pine epoch
When its dyed red it reminds me of Vash the stampede from trigun
pine epoch
which makes me sad
faint dagger
if I ever did see one
unreal wadi
Now my only question is
what GNB weapon
fits it
I'm using a pearl white Scaevan magiteck gunblade
atm
heady shadow
stuck yarrow
I really want the healer top
Shame we didn’t get a 9S thing but whatever
The copied factory sets all looked trash on my miqo so I’m pretty happy with these ones
faint dagger
i just want. the CF sets but the male ones for female characters
pine epoch
I mean in hindsight the P makes sense as Puppet
which for somereason I didn't think of back in copied factory
unreal wadi
SAME
heady shadow
I knew
stuck yarrow
Yeah the male CF sets look way nicer
unreal wadi
I can't believe they finished the nier raid on a cliffhanger
heady shadow
tht she would pull something
unreal wadi
||2B & 9S have gone somewhere, Anogg disappeared||
stuck yarrow
The female ones have this weird corset effect or something
heady shadow
because this is Yoko Taro.
faint dagger
i was full in the belief that she was just a standin for 2B
when 2B ran out stage left I rethought this entire collab
pine epoch
the fact they did a in between quest for nier in 5.2 with setting up the dwarfs are going to have a carnival
I think 5.4 we will get a inbetween quest to find Anogg
and cheer her up
so the siblings can help 2b and 9s with whatever happens in 5.5
drifting goblet
I just finished 5.3 msq... the void man
faint dagger
hm. reckon anogg's meant to sound like analogue?
stuck yarrow
My char also looks pretty trash in “sexy” glams and the healer outfit especially
drifting goblet
But im so fucking hyped for zenos !11
faint dagger
yeah my character is a small cat with no figure whatsoever
unreal wadi
stuck yarrow
Me too
unreal wadi
He finally made it to his goal
faint dagger
whisperfine woolen coat is my godsend
stuck yarrow
And that I finally have a tank other than Thancred
drifting goblet
That too i was so glad his dream was fulfilled
foggy coyote
Thancred: "MY TURN."
stuck yarrow
C’mon give us Fordola or Arenvald or something
foggy coyote
shut uuuuup, im trying to forget about that
drifting goblet
thatscene was soooo powerful
stuck yarrow
Realistically though if we do get another trust anytime soon it’d probably be like, Krile or Estinien
ocean pelican
does y'shtola die
stuck yarrow
Mean
faint dagger
y'shtola had good sass this patch
ocean pelican
she is my in game mama
faint dagger
she gets to live
stuck yarrow
How do you think Y’shtola will die next expansion?
stuck yarrow
Y’shtola dying is a FFXIV tradition at this point
foggy coyote
I loved the Scion vibes in the last scene. That's the most cohesive they've felt as a unit.
gaunt star
upgrade stuff for neo-ish ? ; _ ; probably not a spoiler but w/e
foggy coyote
we should make that a game
guess ways Y'shtola will "die" in the future
and totally re-emerge without a scratch or a single consequence that actually matters
gaunt star
So we are the avatar now with Ardbert as our past life?
foggy coyote
🙃
heady shadow
Scions ctully feel like people.
golden nebula
I mean
foggy coyote
pfft
stuck yarrow
Yeah before SHB we hadn’t really gotten a ton of the Scions all hanging out together, at least not since ARR
unreal wadi
i mean her eyes technically died
foggy coyote
I don't count that
golden nebula
Honestly before shb I didn't feel that close to the scions
golden nebula
Post shb I would and will die for them
stuck yarrow
She has 6 lives left by my count
golden nebula
6 more expansions before perma death
stuck yarrow
Yeah the only Scions I felt particularly close to were the twins
golden nebula
^^^
heady shadow
Mn though
golden nebula
I went through ARR not feeling close to any of the characters minus cid and maggie
foggy coyote
10.0 is the one where they kill them all off and replace the cast
please look forward to it
golden nebula
Then hw happened and I went from hating alphinaud to "this is my best friend"
heady shadow
Alphy though.
Tlking down to his old self(vaulthry) like he did ws pricless.
golden nebula
Funnily enough despite grumpy dragoon man being so popular
I wasn't fond of him at all
No conflicted feelings about taking him down permanently
foggy coyote
I'm so-so on Estinien. Like... he's kinda just... there?
stuck yarrow
Tbh I think Alphinaud is the only character who’s really had a consistent arc through the game
Like he was an asshole in 2.0 but his transition between that and his HW self felt a lot more natural than everyone else’s
golden nebula
Honestly
stuck yarrow
Alisaie has some of that too but obviously most of her char in 2.0 is coils
golden nebula
It feels like the time apart made the scion like the WoL more
At least to me
foggy coyote
Oh, I love Alphinaud. I couldn't stand him pre HW, but now I'd die for him.
stuck yarrow
Yeah
unreal wadi
Alphinaud had a huge change
kindred rampart
Give
@teal geyser
unreal wadi
from HW
unique verge
Ugh
foggy coyote
I def agree that his development has been the most organic and far-reaching
For sure
stuck yarrow
I think the archons were kind of their own group separate from us and the twins
And they didn’t really start to see us as full on friends until we stuck around and rebuilt the scions despite them being decimated pre HW
golden nebula
I joined the game right before shadowbringers released
so I didn't have very long scion limbo
stuck yarrow
Alphinaud had some hints to being babby in 2.0 he just needed a catalyst to pull his head out of his ass
golden nebula
I can't wait to see how square tortures me over the next 2 patches and waiting on 6.0
stuck yarrow
I joined the game after SHB released
And finished SHB MSQ literally the day before 5.1 lmao
unique verge
Alphinaud is the classic "rich kid who had everything set up for him, then gets hit by reality like a train"
golden nebula
I straight up wanted to murder the kid
Fast forward to stormblood
"What do you mean I won't have alphinaud on my adventure?!"
stuck yarrow
Like that moment after ?stone vigil? when he freaks out about you and then immediately tries to downplay it
unreal wadi
this is kinda the reason why I like Alphinaud
golden nebula
Honestly his fretting lines in hw endeared me so hard
unreal wadi
he knows he fucked up, but he started improving himself
and later on, became a leader
stuck yarrow
The Coerthas dungeon or whatever
unreal wadi
a proper leader
stuck yarrow
Idk I haven’t watched 2.0 cutscenes in ages lmao
Him freezing his ass off in his onesie when you went to Coerthas was pretty funny
golden nebula
He fucked up
Realized he had ONE friend and fucking latched
I didn't even realize till replaying his asshole tendencies had died down a bit to genuine admiration in the final ARR dungeon
unique verge
Eh, tbh i didnt really like Alphinaud until the moment he ran up to yank the eyes out of Estinien's armor. because up until that point (barring Coil) he pretty much was all talk.
golden nebula
I had hate blinders on after grauda
unique verge
Never actually had to put his ass on the line for anything
unreal wadi
that's quite true
unreal wadi
& the fact he went with maxine to go to garlemald
unique verge
But he did there, and he did it more readily than supposedly brave knights around him. So that's where he had his shift imo
unreal wadi
in STB
golden nebula
He's so smart and yet his default is to smack a problem
stuck yarrow
Yeah he clearly liked you in ARR he was just busy pretending to be a political mastermind to admit it
I liked Y’shtola in ARR
Mainly because her getting pissy about the pre Titan quests was a mood
unique verge
Honestly
golden nebula
GOD
unique verge
I've always disliked Y'shtola
golden nebula
Fuck the fetch quests
stuck yarrow
I straight up forgot Thancred existed when playing ARR lmao
golden nebula
I want
unique verge
Thancred baller from HW+ though
golden nebula
Yshtola to feel like her reckless has consequences more
I like her but she's luckier than a rabbits foot
stuck yarrow
Like Minfilia asks you about Thancred after you rescue her and I had no idea what she was talking about
golden nebula
Loool
rain onyx
I just noticed none of the “WoLs” Elidibus summon are wearing slutmogs.
I feel like he’s holding back on the strongest ones
golden nebula
Yeah if a scion ain't your city states its easy to forget about them
stuck yarrow
When they did the reveal with him I was like “Oh, that guy”
golden nebula
God
Post hw I was so mad at thancred
Thancred has also gone a full cycle of character angst/growth
stuck yarrow
I remembered Yda and Papalymo since I started in Gridania and Y’shtola left an impression on me
golden nebula
Meanwhile doing cc
"OH man I love g'raha so much"
Cue shadowbringers and meeting the exarch
"YOU"
stuck yarrow
I remember when I first met Thancred I thought he was evil because his voice sounded evil lmao
golden nebula
I played stormblood and had no idea why anyone thought lyse would be a good leader
XD
Elidibus is to pure
Or maybe the slutmogs are confined to the source
half tendon
Wasn't the explanation for lyse as leader that a lot of it is her background
stuck yarrow
Stormblood but M’naago’s the leader instead of Lyse
swift kraken
definitely not
golden nebula
And that's why I get an airship full anytime I run MSQ
swift kraken
the crystarium was wild these past few days
half tendon
Being the daughter of the founder of the resistance AND a Scion gives her strong connection to both ala mhigo and the Alliance
golden nebula
A connection aint the same as being a level headed leader
stuck yarrow
The real Yda would have been more interesting too
golden nebula
Which
Lyse definitely is not level headed
swift kraken
nepotism
golden nebula
Hien and doma and the steepe was super fun tho
stuck yarrow
Hien is HOT
unreal wadi
Cirina best Au Ra
golden nebula
He got hair floof
stuck yarrow
Sadu’s my Auri waifu
golden nebula
Sadu is the best
stuck yarrow
Tbh Stormblood’s areas were my favorite
golden nebula
I wanna run trusts with sadu and magnai
Whelp
Zenos lovers are in luck since he seems to be important again
stuck yarrow
Sadu and Magnai need to fuck already
half tendon
This would level the Azim steppe
golden nebula
If they fucked and actually got along the surrounding areas would be fucked
swift kraken
stuck yarrow
Mwahaha
half tendon
And I think the WoL legally owns that area cause it's named after them so I vote against it
stuck yarrow
G’raha fans
Based and catpilled
unreal wadi
of what's to come
swift kraken
golden nebula
Their inability to work together is the only thing stopping them from crushing everyone else
unreal wadi
in garlemald
stuck yarrow
More areas like Terncliff would be awesome
royal basin
Terncliff was gorgeous holy cow
stuck yarrow
It was
royal basin
The architecture and the setting was really nice I loitered around for a hot mo
unreal wadi
I think we're slowly going into Garlemald territory
golden nebula
Hey
royal basin
Great color to it
unreal wadi
with Chronicles of a new era
stuck yarrow
Like La Noscea but better
half tendon
I really hope square addresses the fact that as far as we can tell the WoL just murdered a kid though
golden nebula
6.0 garah adventures we have two cat scions now
half tendon
6.0 DRK had better be absolutely wild
kindred rampart
I just noticed none of the “WoLs” Elidibus summon are wearing slutmogs.
I feel like he’s holding back on the strongest ones
@rain onyx would have been pretty insane if he summoned Amano styled versions of these guys but they don't have any Dissidia NT reps to piggyback from
golden nebula
Ahhh
swift kraken
just cant stop winning in shb
lilac crest
LETSS FUCKING GO
stuck yarrow
Let me hug G’raha already
swift kraken
all thats left is making lamitt/ardbert yshtola/runar canon
golden nebula
I started with the other ff mmo
Played a thief mithra
unreal wadi
swift kraken
and i will have won
kindred rampart
grats
stuck yarrow
Lucky
unreal wadi
grats dude @lilac crest
stuck yarrow
I wanna do ex before everyone has it all figured out but also I suck
golden nebula
Prepare for death and do it anyways
royal basin
honestly this might be the first x i do synched since it's fresh 😅
golden nebula
I say as a white mage whose group got down to the last 30 minutes of the fight before we cleared
Normal trail
However
My group was odd
stuck yarrow
I don’t have a static and no one in my FC seems to wanna run it with me
Taking responsibility for PF parties is a pain but no one else on center seems to have one up
unique verge
I want to get EX done but like every party thats up for the last few hours is on adds or earlier and i'm ready for final phase.
golden nebula
We had 3 gun totes wols
swift kraken
just do one from start
shy flax
yeah i joined a blind pug last night and we played for 2.5 hours before i left and got to 50%?
swift kraken
people will join
shy flax
super fun tho
golden nebula
And it turns out guns vs a big knife isn't very effective
stuck yarrow
The hardest content I’ve cleared is E1S lmao
unreal wadi
Woah
calm rock
I joined a PF group for the EX fight yesterday--took us 3 hours to go from blind prog to clearing it a couple times
It's not too bad. Especially seeing how some Shiva Unreal groups...
swift kraken
ex is taking us longer but we refuse to look at any guide or anything really
very fun figuring it out
calm rock
Absolutely--especially the second half
unique verge
Last phase is a clusterfuck
calm rock
The randomness of mechanic order is my favorite aspect of it
stuck yarrow
I want that cane though
kindred rampart
funny how the longest and most drawn out extreme I ever did was SKIP SOAR OR GTFO
aka Zurvan
unique verge
Imagine not skipping soar
stuck yarrow
Hrng I really wanna run Titania EX at some point, the weapons are so good
calm rock
I have never cleared Zurvan, just because PF was lousy with groups that would say that, fail once, then disband
mint axle
Do you think there might be a few sidequests that may involve npcs from the role quests and Cylva after beating Elidibus?
kindred rampart
every other trial before or after that was a cake walk in comparison with learning/farming groups
stuck yarrow
The Titania rapier is so nice
kindred rampart
I didn't get my Zurvan clear until after SB launch lol
spiral wagon
stuck yarrow
Maybe Ultimecia?
radiant badger
Still like the idea if a Necron fight.
heady shadow
necron e12, ultimecia e11
half tendon
heady shadow
ow
vivid notch
I think Fandaniel works better in japanese. In the english dub his voicework is just weird
it doesn't match his movements lmao
half tendon
idk i think his english voicework is good
radiant badger
Nothing like an HP-to-1 tankbuster
half tendon
well i mean
half tendon
given what he says in that cutscene
vivid notch
it doesn't fit him
half tendon
i think he's bailed on the convocation. maybe
or he's executing a moderate to high IQ play
heady shadow
I wonder who his VA is... probs another GoT actor xD
half tendon
by just, like... fuckin pointing zenos at the world and going "dude it'd be SO fucking funny if you set that on fire"
stuck yarrow
whoever voiced Asahi idk
heady shadow
or maybe witcher
half tendon
and prepping a calamity on another shard
"hey zenos if you do calamities you'll get stronger"
stuck yarrow
still, you'd think he would have bothered with more than generic player available gear
stuck yarrow
I could walk out in full fandaniel cosplay
half tendon
is he still using Asahi's VA?
I'm not sure cause they talk very differently but that could be a question of tone and manner of speech
stuck yarrow
sounded like it
half tendon
and not a different VA
unique verge
Yes, and the VA somehow even "more Asahi" than he was before.
brisk quail
^
half tendon
Asahi has discovered the concept of fun
stuck yarrow
has the same accent all the doman characters have
faint dagger
He has even more Akechi vibes than Asahi had
half tendon
Oh also like
brisk quail
Also mild question... with the words of Grha Tia? at the end. Is it assumed that this Next Expac is the last?
Or is that just for dramatic effect?
unique verge
Doesnt mean shit
half tendon
You gotta think about that moment off screen when the WoL puts everything together in their head about elidibus and who he was probably making that promise to
crimson pollen
Fandaniel just seem like he is trying too hard, tho
unique verge
FF14 is never gonna end until it gets replaced with a sequeal
Literal money printer for SE
and their only reliable one
brisk quail
BRRRRRRRRR
half tendon
The exact moment the WoL has that "i'm killing our boy" moment
stuck yarrow
I think they said 6.0 or 7.0 was supposed to be the end of the "Hydaelyn and Zodiark" arc
I doubt FFXIV will stop getting new content as long as it keeps printing money
crimson pollen
I think Yoshi might leave at some point, tho - in order to try new projects he prolly wishes, and stuff like that - handing the realm to someone else
gaunt star
i am currently laughing at how alisaie is worried she didn't get a class development while the others did XD
brisk quail
That's funny to me
mint berry
Sorry stupid question but in the last cutscene graha tia said we are going towards our final chapter, does this mean the next expansion will be the last?
stuck yarrow
Alisaie should switch to MCH cuz G U N
brisk quail
where's my character development Yoshi-p?! You gave everyone else one! I need new job
gaunt star
That was so funny
stuck yarrow
Ynne asked it, not michael
heady shadow
Alisaie went full metaa
half tendon
gunbreaker ryne for 8.0
brisk quail
Alphi: i like being scholar tho
stuck yarrow
but we did answer
gaunt star
Academic awa
crimson pollen
they are shards of same being
brisk quail
Student Job
stuck yarrow
SCH (sorry, "Academicien") is just so perfect for alphie though
stuck yarrow
and he was more of an Arcanist/SMN pre SHB anyway
unique verge
Still waiting for the other shoe to drop on saving G'raha and it coming back to bite us in the ass.
gaunt star
i could see alisaie as a tank though
brisk quail
I'M ABOUT TO DO MANY A RECKLESS THING... Alphinaud watch my back
crimson pollen
Death flags being raised over Alisaie I sense
brisk quail
Anyone can be tank if they run ahead first
gaunt star
she took a big sword in the wod fight, she could be a DrK in my mind
unique verge
Yeah but i think its very intentional that none of the NPC's have been DRK
gaunt star
DrK lore is too weird to introduce in the scions
royal basin
man would i love to see some dialogue w the scions having to do with your job
brisk quail
I mean... they've been avoiding the... Jobs for Derplander in each expac.
unique verge
Its hard enough to deal with the fact that all WoL's who have unlocked DRK are unreliable narrators to their own stories.
royal basin
even just optional dialogue based on whatever soul stone you have equipped
would be such a nice personal touch
stuck yarrow
Idk they could have the twins switch to whatever jobs are new next expansion
but idk
half tendon
can you imagine the WoL explaining anything about DRK to the scions
stuck yarrow
I wonder what would happen to Trusts if they did that?
gaunt star
i mean they didnt explain Ali being RDM
brisk quail
Alisae... the pirate. Arrrrrrrrrr
stuck yarrow
they do tho
gaunt star
they did?
half tendon
"Warrior of Light, how does it feel to have merged with Ardbert? Surely it must be more than passing strange to technically be two people at once-"
gaunt star
i lost that
half tendon
"Urianger i'm like four dudes at once"
stuck yarrow
They say Alisaie trained with X'ruhn or whatever her name is
gaunt star
ohh
brisk quail
Alisae the pirate job
faint dagger
I don't think she's named but I recall it being 'ohh hehe yeah they mean alisaie'
unique verge
Hah, yeah. I feel like.....the WoL probably keeps secret from the scions whats happened with them as a result of taking up Fray's soulstone
stuck yarrow
I feel like Alisaie also mentions it at some point
brisk quail
Yeah this is some freaky dark arts shit. Naw. Not gonna talk about this
stuck yarrow
if you talk to her between quest objectives
unique verge
Hey guys, uh, remember that time when I started just yelling at all of you for no reason? Turns out i was hallucinating that a corpse was yelling at you.
gaunt star
Fandaniel in th body of that doman kid, i hated the shit out of that guy
i they bring him back
vivid notch
at the end of the day we just traded Lyse for G'Raha and I'll be honest... Kinda preferred Lyse
by very little but I did
vivid notch
so is G'Raha
vivid notch
nope
brisk quail
Lyse flopped hard
vivid notch
at least she had a personality
unique verge
Dumb as a rock, screws up literally everything
gaunt star
She was so useless in the whole StormBlood
brisk quail
She went from intresting to fucking failure in an instant
stuck yarrow
Fray, Myste and Ardbert having tea inside WoL's head
gaunt star
They wanted her to be the Hokage and she was not even a genin
unique verge
omfg imagine Ardberts perspective on this
stuck yarrow
"G'raha doesn't have a personality" what are you on?
unique verge
he merges with us
realizes whats going on in WoL head
"jesus fucking christ i lost to a lunatic"
gaunt star
I cried for Graha
brisk quail
Uhh... WoL... theres... other people in here
sacred hearth
i feel like the next expansion HAS to be garlemald right
vivid notch
the truth
unreal wadi
It feels that way
vivid notch
ye it'll be Garlemald
sacred hearth
last expansion??
unreal wadi
I'd like them to prove me wrong tho
vivid notch
of this arc
gaunt star
i just saw that quote
sacred hearth
i will Cry
unreal wadi
nope @sacred hearth
vivid notch
can't wait to fight Zenos shirtless in the rain
sacred hearth
oh did they say its not gonna be the last one
half tendon
It'd have to be fighting fandaniel shirtless in the rain
stuck yarrow
god getting to fly in ARR areas is so nice
half tendon
Since he's got the hair to do the like
vergil rain fight slick back
"WHY DO YOU REFUSE TO HAVE FUN, AZEM?"
unique verge
G'raha : Literally saves an entire planet, tries to sacrifice himself to save the WoL, sacrifices himself sort-of to kill the final unsundered Ascian.
Lyse : Fucks up constantly and cant do anything right. Literally useless as soon as Papalymo stopped cleaning up after her.
how is this even a contest.
lol
brisk quail
Me: there's only ONE MAN who snaps like that
unique verge
I mean, he's definitely dead though
half tendon
Ehh?
half tendon
i don't know if the postmoogle's quest through time and space is even remotely canon but
hyth did just straight up go "Yeah hades is just in the lifestream, i'll chuck those gifts in there and he'll fish em out"
swift kraken
im sure the sentiment is true even if the circumstances are silly
sacred hearth
also
wary perch
it's 14th summon magic with his essence when he create the crystal
swift kraken
dont go there
half tendon
it's the boy
swift kraken
i got a heart attack
unique verge
Can we not, "main villain comes back" got old already when it was Zenos.
swift kraken
sacred hearth
sacred hearth
no it wouldnt make sense for his arc
swift kraken
half tendon
i cannot imagine we'd see any more of emet-selch, member of the convocation
half tendon
we... might hear more from hades in some way shape or form?
swift kraken
n stuff
half tendon
i can see us getting punted into the lifestream and he's just like "oh you scamp i'll get you out of here"
or something
sacred hearth
i want hades + hythalodeus fun times in amaurot sitcom
swift kraken
there are several sitcoms i want
brisk quail
There are times we should let dead characters lie.
half tendon
It's Always Sunny In Amaurot
brisk quail
The Adventures of the Man Servant
sacred hearth
It’s Always Starshowering In Amaurot
half tendon
honestly i feel like they're still giong somewhere with the WoL's amaurotine past
sacred hearth
i mean big Azem reveal
half tendon
Is this because i desperately need us to do the ascian handwave mask thing? yes!
vivid notch
I'm down to fight fandaniel shirtless in the rain
half tendon
and also because they specifically called attention to us still having the crystal
sacred hearth
next xpac
unique verge
The Adventures of the Man Servant
@brisk quail
I could go for a Honoroit storyline. Preferably one where Emmanelain gets punched a few more times.
swift kraken
i will beat fandaniel to death im not going to lie
sacred hearth
like with ardbert
half tendon
DRK 6.0: "I left this azem memory crystal and my DRK soul crystal in the same bag. You won't believe what happens next!"
brisk quail
YES. EXACTLY
unique verge
jesus christ
brisk quail
I need more of it
royal basin
ardbert and fray playing cards in the wreck room of WoL's soul
there's room for more
brisk quail
I need more Honoroit time
half tendon
yeah i dunno where this "lyse is incompetent" meme comes from she's
half tendon
pretty good at her job, which is punching things
swift kraken
remember when raubahn did her speech for her
vivid notch
still think M'Naago should've been the leader of the Resistance but eh whatever
unique verge
and does the dumb thing
sacred hearth
wait
swift kraken
that was great
sacred hearth
the amaurot crystals and the job crystals look similar 
swift kraken
yeh
royal basin
I don't dislike Lyse but I agree on M'naago
brisk quail
Bro.
Wanna know what'd be good?
A tea party with our enemies.
- Lyse
half tendon
iirc she's pretty aware that she's not a qualified leader and i think she made a point of going "yeah i know i'm mostly a figurehead that's why i put competent people in positions where they can do the things i don't know how to"
vivid notch
that's unfair
sacred hearth
the thing with varis?
wary perch
I thought the convocation crystals are gone after wod show them to elidibus
sacred hearth
no that made sense story wise
half tendon
example: she knows she isn't a military leader. so she put raubahn in charge of that.
The Azem crystal is specifically not gone
brisk quail
Fuck. They summoned a primal at our tea party.
Fuck
- Lyse a few minutes later
half tendon
It falls out of your pocket when you're running into the CT and you stop to pick it up
sacred hearth
maybe all the jobs are linked to the convocation somehow
vivid notch
especially because you know, the fact that Limsa is a piece of shit to Sahagin was a plot point in game
half tendon
Which is probably just there to specifically go "Hey look you still have this"
vivid notch
so her extending the olive branch to the tempered was actually a good thing
unique verge
Realistically the Azem crystal is the solution to them making "7 randoms from DF" make sense from now forward. We'll NEVER lose that.
swift kraken
hes talking about the other tea party
thin crypt
mods when they see rp in the chat https://imgur.com/K206hgy
half tendon
tbf like
lyse has spent a lot of her life in eorzea
and she knows that being assholes to the beast tribes has literally never worked
sacred hearth
i wanna go to ivalice for a full xpac
thin crypt
no pls
sacred hearth
but idont think thatll happen
swift kraken
yeah but they were tempered
thin crypt
no more ivalice
sacred hearth
fuk u
unique verge
Yeah she literally invited a tribe that was post-tempering
half tendon
Return To Ivalice 2: Revenge Of Thunder Guy
thin crypt
no more lyse
stuck yarrow
Frankly I don't mind Lyse
unique verge
That's goddamn stupid
sacred hearth
i wanna see ff14 balthier
vivid notch
again, it makes sense
swift kraken
we KNOW tempering is final
stuck yarrow
She's not even half as good as G'raha though
thin crypt
you know why this xpac was good right? no lyse
brisk quail
Mfw WoL pulls out LB4:
swift kraken
graha gang wins once again
vivid notch
she did it because they are part of her realm and everyone in the realm should have a say, even the tempered
unique verge
Fucking imagine Lyse in any of the zone stories
swift kraken
sacred hearth
lyse shouldve stayed yda
sacred hearth
lyse shouldve died instead of papalymo
swift kraken
she was with the scions, she should know
stuck yarrow
"G'raha has no personality" smh
unreal wadi
Lyse has no relevance rn its ok guys
swift kraken
they had to execute tempered people so they dont summon another primal
half tendon
The WoL teleporting everyoneback from the rift was actually healer LB4
swift kraken
lol?
floral aurora
Boss theme is just too good!
swift kraken
wow thats the worst summary ive ever heard
unique verge
You're kidding me right? G'raha has a ton of personality.
vivid notch
he has as much as a personality as Shirou "People Die When They Are Killed" Emiya
swift kraken
graha specifically doesnt even believe he is a hero
you constantly have to tell him
half tendon
Tempered or no it's still worth trying to de-escalate
half tendon
Even if you know it's very unlikely to work with the tempered there's still a chance
sacred hearth
hes v humble
the crystarium was like “you should be king” and he was like “pls no i am only catboy”
stuck yarrow
He's a massive fucking dork with big self confidence issues lmao
floral aurora
Glad everyone is loving this patch xD
brisk quail
Like... did you see Graha's Introduction? That was cute AS FUCK. When his Source getup was revealed
like man.
swift kraken
dude his ears
vivid notch
eeeh
swift kraken
go up or down
sacred hearth
i wanna kiss him
vivid notch
there are controversies
swift kraken
depending on what u choose
untold gull
He's had his moments where he was fidgeting like cute cinnamon bun.
brisk quail
Making me a graha stan
swift kraken
vivid notch
I wish I could tell him to fuck off, though
brisk quail
He's ADORABLE
swift kraken
when you ... him his ears go down and the graha please option makes em go up
untold gull
swift kraken
i yelled
brisk quail
like aaaaaaaaa
half tendon
i want to give himb a hug
sacred hearth
ban
stuck yarrow
Literally why
vivid notch
and to be fair, his Crystal Exarch persona was kinda okay
swift kraken
sacred hearth
ban time
brisk quail
He's a GOOD BOY
half tendon
also i SWEAR this patch is the first time catboy has been used in in-game dialogue
stuck yarrow
Without him we'd all be ded
vivid notch
the whole calm and collected thing worked
half tendon
i distinctly remember SOMEONE saying it
vivid notch
but then he went back to being a fuckboy
sacred hearth
THE DWARF
vivid notch
so in the trash he goes 🚮
sacred hearth
from role quests
unique verge
Well well Emet, you've taken the failsafe to a whole new level
swift kraken
graha and the exarch are the exact same person except the exarch is doing his best to not spill the beans
lilac crest
Inb4 they let him live just to kill him for WoL character development
sacred hearth
said it
stuck yarrow
Do you not know what fuckboy means?
half tendon
that's right, it was giott
sacred hearth
to the mystrel
swift kraken
my crackship is
half tendon
[giott finalfantasy14 voice] SILENCE CATBOY
vivid notch
G'raha is a huge fuckboy
swift kraken
ok lyse fan
shrewd cypress
swift kraken
anywa
carmine basin
Khadame I have a cursed pairing
half tendon
extremely funny mental image: lamitt's thirst dynamic for ardbert but the species are swapped
swift kraken
cant be more cursed than what ive seen
shrewd cypress
Hey guys it’s me, Locke
swift kraken
hit me
stuck yarrow
That word, I don't think it means what you think it means
carmine basin
WoL x Ardbert but Elidibus is still in the body
half tendon
huge hyur white mage sees a lalafell with an axe and just goes "I CAN'T NOT FUCK HIM"
swift kraken
thats- pretty cursed
stuck yarrow
He's also a Zenos fan lmao
vivid notch
"He" is a strong word
half tendon
did they ever bring up that fact in game actually
that Lamitt was extremely thirsty for ardbert
stuck yarrow
Oh I'm sorry
half tendon
I know it was mentioned in... encyclopedia eorzea?
brisk quail
Lamitt totally had the hots for him
unique verge
its implied
swift kraken
giott ships them
royal basin
i didn't need to hear about lamitt's thoughts on ardbert's loins
stuck yarrow
That happens to me a ton, I should know better than to assume someone's gender on the internet
swift kraken
she constantly goes like HER ARDBERT its quite funny
stuck yarrow
What do you think fuckboy means?
swift kraken
giott #1 shipper
stuck yarrow
He's like the exact opposite of a fuckboy
swift kraken
pls
brisk quail
But WoL wants to get stabbed by Zenos' big... sword
half tendon
fuckin fandaniel and zenos' whole dynamic is like
carmine basin
I wish the scions appear in the moonfire faire event
half tendon
"how big is that katana"
"huge leave me alone"
swift kraken
i just want to be happy, i dont want to be sad anymore
carmine basin
It's a mood whiplash doing 5.3 then doing summer event the next day
Where you dance to a bomb to drive away a giant, walking shark
vivid notch
I love how like done with everything Zenos is
swift kraken
"how big is that katana"
"..." 
vivid notch
Fandaniel is over there being a clown or whatever
and Zenos is just like
'ugh whatever when do we get to kill?'
swift kraken
comedy duo
vivid notch
I love him a lot
carmine basin
The stinger isn't as... exciting imo
brisk quail
Zenos: you know what I'd rather be doing? Stabbing the WoL. When can I do that?
carmine basin
Like we know they're up to some shit but the patch was mostly about ending ShB
carmine basin
Didn't show what Estinien was up to or other ascians reacting to Elidibus' death
swift kraken
estinien is said to have disappeared + the empire is in trouble
unukalhai reacts to it and hes Big Sad
carmine basin
He's too big for 9S outfit
He'd look like a grown man wearing a kindergarten outfit
swift kraken
and honestly hes like the last unsundered ascian so
carmine basin
Is he really a kid when he became a convocation or is it just symbolism
Since the viewpoint on his flashback is pretty low
half tendon
He's looking up in his flashbacks
half tendon
Me when I saw him for the first time
half tendon
Me 12 seconds later remembering his weird low PoV in the flashbacks
swift kraken
that only the part of elidibus manifested that was more pure
and just wanted to protect his family and do his duty
carmine basin
I thought it was either symbolizing his mental state (as a kid who only know that he needs to do X) or a symbolizing how much "self" he still has after being a primal for so long
half tendon
It's a bit unclear innit
swift kraken
him being an actual child would be like
half tendon
God if the next tales from the shadow is about elidibus
swift kraken
completely emotionally devastating
half tendon
And it turns out he was just a kid
swift kraken
but idk why the amaurotinians would pick a child to be the heart
carmine basin
The part where we gave him the crystal and he hugs them....
half tendon
Super Chaos Pain Mode: he was inspired to join the convocation by Azem
carmine basin
Might be because of children's purity
half tendon
desperate measures, and a kid's soul is easier to shape the primal around?
swift kraken
yeah
thats what i thought too
in 5.2 they acted like elidibus being the heart was normal though
carmine basin
If anything he might be Alphinaud's and Alisaie's age
swift kraken
id have thought
they would take more moral issue with it
hes about as tall as us and we're referred to as kids
carmine basin
Hopefully the tales from the shadows would shed some light
Like it did with Emet, Hyth, and Azem's relationship
vivid notch
huh I just realized, Zenos is Hythloadeus ain't he?
half tendon
Eh...
I can see a "my BEST FRIEND" connection and he certainly does seem to be good at perceiving souls but
carmine basin
I think they would make Hythlodaeus look more sinister if he were reborn as Zenos
half tendon
Zenos also got his superpowers at least in part from krile's echo
vivid notch
he says that he always dreamt about the ascian's end
half tendon
And iirc krile is ridiculously good at sensing aether isn't she
vivid notch
they could pull another ascian
but of the named ones the only one he could be is Hythloadeus
carmine basin
Their personalities are 180
vivid notch
yeah that's why it'll be so shocking when the big reveal hits
half tendon
i still think the resonance really convolutes things
carmine basin
It's not like seeing souls is an unique ability two people only have
It's rare, but probably someone other than in Amaurot has it
untold gull
He's also been subjected to experiments and he's of emet's blood - or at least he's related to him since that's not his body. But i don't think he's gonna be hythlodaeus
half tendon
It does seem like there's some kinda resemblance or similarities between an ancient and their sundered parts though like
The WoL is a lot like what we've heard of Azem
And that seems to hold for their shards we're aware of
untold gull
That's true. Ardbert was also an adventurer that helped people along the way... 
half tendon
Ardbert had the same "run around with a band of misfits and help people" thing going on, unuk... tried, bless his heart
at least I think he did
untold gull
Unukalhai
compact marlin
Maybe being experimented on as a kid kinda fucked him up
half tendon
But obviously that didn't work out for him
untold gull
But that was because he was too late
untold gull
Kinda sad tbh
half tendon
Also his fuckin
Elidibus saving him both makes way more sense and is much sadder if elidibus really was just a kid
untold gull
What happened to him again after that questline?
half tendon
He just hangs out in the rising stones
untold gull
I don't recall now
untold gull
Oh, is that where he is? I've never gone through the solar after, well, minfilia disappeared
half tendon
Elidibus sees a kid doing his best to save his world and people and failing and is just like "at last, someone who GETS IT"
untold gull
I've been missing so many dialogues omg 
half tendon
wait didn't unuk have some other robes in a flashback
swift kraken
all the scions dialogue is interesting
half tendon
I swear there's one with him and elidibus where he's wearing white
swift kraken
the mol grandma in the steppe had her dialogue changed with 5.0
untold gull
Wasn't he always wearing white?
swift kraken
to comment on your soul being brighter
untold gull
Goddammit i never knew that
half tendon
No he wears grey I think?
untold gull
Oh, he does?
half tendon
Oh no he wears white
And he had some like
Black baby's first ascian robes in a flashback
tough fern
Runar really about to confess
carmine basin
Can you talk to Y'shtola or Thancred?
tough fern
Sad hours
untold gull
Welp, time to visit grams 
carmine basin
I saw Urianger but haven't found those two
swift kraken
yshtola and thancred are in the sick room
half tendon
Just storm into the solar and be like
untold gull
Omg i got the spelling of his name right 
half tendon
UNUKALHAI, HOLD THIS PLOT ROCK AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS
carmine basin
Ohhh you can enter there
half tendon
Also have we ever actually like
Touched unuk or made physical contact with him in any way
untold gull
Y'shtola is like 'i'm calling raha his full name unless he tells us not to. Don't care what alphy says'
swift kraken
yshtola says a few lines about alphinauds idea to omit the tia from grahas name since he was the leader of the crystaroium
carmine basin
He has a physical body, I think they may have touched him in Warring Triad
Both him and Cyella took someone else's bodies and changed it to look like them
Same with Ardbert and co
untold gull
I've yet to do all the class quest in shb so i still don't have any of the cyella quest
carmine basin
I wonder if Y'shtola would allow us to call her Shtola
tough fern
Runar x Yshtola I ship it
untold gull
Yes
tough fern
I ship it hard
carmine basin
I think only her sister calls her Shtola
half tendon
Can you imagine if it gets explicitly confirmed that unuk is part of us and it's just like
royal basin
her sister and Matoya
swift kraken
time to rejoin
swift kraken
carmine basin
Btw something I noticed
untold gull
half tendon
The WoL sees Zenos pull some shit and goes "hey brb 1 sec"
Rolls into the waking sands, grabs unuk
carmine basin
Y'shtola brushed off Magnai by saying "come back when you're a man"
half tendon
"OK, GET IN"
tough fern
Ysh is writing letters to her sister again
carmine basin
Y'shtola calls Runar "a boy in a man's body"