I'm pretty sure everyone picked the kupo option. The sfx was all the better for it.
#retired-patch-6-3-discussion
radiant badger
misty yoke
Wait is the patch out?
nocturne void
yeah
glacial fossil
im wondering how the fuck theyre gonna up the ante in 6.0 cause all the unsundered are dead
empty moss
my PC is very schitazo
lavish sluice
A trip down memory pain lane
radiant badger
It's been out dude
I'd argue more than half the people here have already done everything in it
empty moss
im wondering how the fuck theyre gonna up the ante in 6.0 cause all the unsundered are dead
@glacial fossil Zeno's Hydalin and Zodiark
radiant badger
And it's not a small patch
lavish sluice
I did it ASAP because spoilers
misty yoke
Christ im out the loop so much
empty moss
same
lavish sluice
Then hit the bed hard
misty yoke
Well ik what im doing later
valid mica
Well seeing as they said that the next expansion seems to be the last I guess we'll see how it goes
empty moss
bar the crafting stuff as ill need more time
glacial fossil
we already killed zenos once, so im assuming hes gonna be less-than-involved for 6.0 but very much so for 5.4
glacial fossil
yeah but how the fuck are they gonna make the fight interesting
empty moss
Zodiark infuesed
glacial fossil
i guess that makes sense
radiant badger
I mean he's basically got body swapping stuff so
glacial fossil
tru
radiant badger
Who even knows
empty moss
yer but he prefers his own
radiant badger
And it's zenos, he's a friggin wildcard
empty moss
not really
glacial fossil
we literally no nothing of 6.0 so who knows at this point
empty moss
we know what he wants
glacial fossil
we only have vague ideas of 5.4 to begin with
valid mica
Well he's got the Echo and the ability to control primals so he's probably going to be able to control zodiark. Or at least become the new core. And seeing how the game alluded that we are XIV seat of the council or whatever it was called, I think that's just says that it's our duty to make sure that whatever is being planned doesn't succeed. I mean wasn't that the entire reason of XIV seat existing?
radiant badger
He's ONLY predictable in that we know he likes to fight and cause conflict. He's straight up chaotic evil, but he leans more to chaotic neutral because he doesn't care about anything else anymore.
That's like.. Not great
glacial fossil
chaotic anything means hes hard to predict, all we know is he wants to fight us again
radiant badger
Exactly
empty moss
na he is like Bane
he will hurt those close to us to get us
he is less complex than Emet or Elidi
radiant badger
He's arguably the worst kind of chaotic evil in that beyond 'fuck shit up' he has no other goal, but also an absolute willingness to take EVERY option to reach that goal.
empty moss
i mean i wanted to forgive him
radiant badger
And given he's a sociopathic lunatic, every option is literally EVERY OPTION.
teal geyser
he will hurt those close to us to get us
@empty moss so he kills G'raha
radiant badger
Can't really predict that.
teal geyser
Got it
radiant badger
The most predictable thing he'll do is kill someone and scream NOTICE MEEEE
empty moss
XD
teal geyser
Fuck Y'shtola
glacial fossil
i think hes closer to psychopathic cause he knows full well that he's insane
teal geyser
It'll be the twins
empty moss
noooooooo
teal geyser
For reals
empty moss
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
radiant badger
Good, alisaie needs to be thrown into hot water for once
glacial fossil
who's the least liked scion that was involved in ShB
radiant badger
Girl gotta chill out
glacial fossil
im not including lyse
empty moss
ill go full Anikan vs sand people on him if he kills the twins
severe brook
the twins would probably hurt the most
teal geyser
severe brook
cal, you realize that if you said that to zenos that'd make him want to do it more
lavish sluice
ShB was like "What if we made Urianger HOT?"
severe brook
because then you'd try to kill him
radiant badger
Nah, Alisaie's been dumb and reckless and Alphinaud is the local butt-monkey, they both have it coming tbh
lavish sluice
severe brook
they're good kids brent
empty moss
tbh i think the twins are lest at risk
teal geyser
And G'raha is a useless social wreck @radiant badger
gentle temple
I'm only on the third quest of the patch and they already made me tear up
empty moss
they have alot of narrative potential
teal geyser
With fantasies
radiant badger
Them being good doesn't change their characterization, lol
gentle temple
I don't think I have enough tissues for this
radiant badger
@teal geyser i mean, at least he knows he is.
glacial fossil
twins prob wouldnt go, uriangers too important same with y'shtola so im assuming thancred's gonna fake-die again
glacial fossil
or at least die then somehow return for the second(?) time
lavish sluice
Papalymo comes back and dies
radiant badger
Urianger might be up on the chopping block actually
glacial fossil
emets wave during the fight was the best fucking thing in that fight hands down
radiant badger
He's not STRONK like YEESH'tola
And it's not like we're gonna need super ancient wisdom in garlemald
glacial fossil
i can kinda see why theyd kill off urianger but i really dont think theyre gonna
empty moss
Urianger or Y'shtola is my 90% guess
teal geyser
Urianger would bore Zenos with words and save himself
lavish sluice
Party chat went nuts when that happened
teal geyser
I don't think anyone is dying
radiant badger
@teal geyser you know full well zenos would just stab him to shut him up.
teal geyser
But that doesn't mean there won't be drama
lavish sluice
PC dies
empty moss
cant die, im a WHM
teal geyser
Just kidnap him and make the WoL come to the rescue
empty moss
actualy
tranquil flower
I think it's about time Y'shtola dies for real
teal geyser
I don't think Zenos is dumb enough to actually kill our friends to get us to come for him.
empty moss
if i were a gambling man looking for max impact Urianger & Y'shtola
teal geyser
I think he'd just take them
empty moss
kills them both
glacial fossil
all i want is for none of the unsundered to come back. They should be dead for good cause we all know sqenix hates killing people permanently
teal geyser
Dw we'll Azem them back to life
radiant badger
YEESH'tola has too much use in Garlemald given her primary use is blowing shit up.
Something we're going to be doing a lot of.
pine epoch
imagine if the dwarf beast tribe quest ends with a solo instance where we pilot their tank
and fight sin eaters
glacial fossil
minus papalymo, who deserved death
tranquil flower
no he didn't
empty moss
Minfillia
tranquil flower
BRING HIM BACK
glacial fossil
granted at least he went down with a bang
radiant badger
Yeah, he finally made himself useful.
glacial fossil
i disliked him and was very happy when he died lol
radiant badger
By turning himself into a corpse.
lavish sluice
Yda
radiant badger
Guy was a snarky little shit, idk why anyone liked papalymo
At least yshtola is fun with her smug sass.
The potato was just a smartass dick.
Also short.
lavish sluice
Forget about the new MSQ stuff
The REAL content starts next week
lavish sluice
nocturne void
Everybody ready to GRIIIIIIIIIND
empty moss
ive been using my Broom as my mount since it was a halloween reward
lavish sluice
Thank God we have flying for Yo-Kai fate grinds
empty moss
its not abtuse and screen filling , makes a semblance of sense when flying and fits my Mage
lavish sluice
2B is the most desired minion
Jibanyan Couch is the hardest to get mount
pastel coyote
sorry sir the most desired minion is chibi Elidibus
lavish sluice
Idk
The 2B minion is anatomically correct
covert slate
i just want to say that thinking about g'raha's ear wiggles makes me unreasonably happy
empty moss
i barly use my minions
lavish sluice
Pet battles when :^)
radiant badger
G'raha's ear twitching is hardly unique though
mighty light
"Pet battles when"
Gold Saucer
radiant badger
I'll freely admit they took more effort into it this patch, but miqo ears move around all the time.
mighty light
Don't think female miqo'te have any ear wiggle animations
lavish sluice
Lord of Vermilion is alright
covert slate
well yeah, but they were more expressive and dynamic than normal ear wiggles
empty moss
Don't think female miqo'te have any ear wiggle animations
@mighty light have you ever used an emote
mighty light
Yes?
covert slate
and it's also g'raha who i would already die for
radiant badger
Female miqos have more ear twitching than males do lol
And as a male miqo they got tons
static niche
who is spectral necromancer btw?
radiant badger
the flattest of ears
static niche
also necromancer job confirmed.
teal geyser
No one?
empty moss
who is spectral necromancer btw?
@static niche a dominatrix
static niche
i means who is she referring to
teal geyser
No one?
mighty light
Ears tilt down slightly vs the massive ear-wiggles male miqo'te get on several emotes
mighty light
So slight that despite using sulk all the time this is the first time I'm noticing it
teal geyser
So are 90% of them yes
The only two you can make a case of is the first boss is Locke and the first one that shows is FF1 Fighter
That's it
empty moss
also arnt Miqote ears more like Deer's ?
covert slate
i just wanted to add to the mountain of g'raha appreciation, who knew ear wiggles were so contentious haha
empty moss
than cats
teal geyser
What does that mean?
mighty light
What
radiant badger
Not really, deer ears go ALL around all the time
lavish sluice
Berserker and Chemist confirmed :^)
empty moss
Ink Mage
static niche
ink is sch
radiant badger
Miqo ears are definitely less catty than most neko, but they're too static to be deer ears
mighty light
^
empty moss
radiant badger
IE they don't move enough by default, mostly just due to emotion
mighty light
Even the idiot deer who live around here swivel their ears like crazy
(They'll let a human get within like 4 feet of them before running off)
empty moss
mighty light
(People feed them and the dogs are mostly well-trained enough that they don't go after them, so they just sorta
Don't care)
radiant badger
It's funny pulling up to a deer in a car, only for them to just look at you like waddup.
empty moss
laughs in bullet
radiant badger
... and then you yell FAHK YEW at 'em and they run like hell
do not try with moose.
radiant badger
empty moss
moose eat Canadians
empty moss
Moose Cavalry
mighty light
Yeah, when they write breakfast cereal commercials targeted at moose, that last scene where they talk about it being part of a balanced breakfast has a Canadian drenched in maple syrup on the plate
heady shadow
mean fuckers
lavish sluice
Meese
empty moss
no, they are more inteligent than Rhinos ( i played too much R&C)
mighty light
You hit a moose with a small car, the moose is more likely to be fine than the car is*
*Dependent on circumstances
lavish sluice
Untitled Moose Game when?
radiant badger
Not even circumstances.
You don't challenge a moose with anything less than a decently sized minivan
If it is a small car going at speed vs a moose
The car WILL NOT be fine
The moose is rather likely to walk it off
mighty light
Yeah fair
radiant badger
In any case, rhinos seem like cute derpy tank puppies until they start rolling your car like a fucking wad of gum.
pastel coyote
@static niche Yesterday at 11:57 PM
who is spectral necromancer btw?
Lenna necromancer job from ff5
quartz charm
lets get this out of the way
NECROMANCER CONFIRMED FOR 6.0
INK MAGE CONFIRMED FOR 6.0
BERSERKER CONFIRMED FOR 6.0
lavish sluice
Three classes?
A new healer?
gaunt star
no
lavish sluice
quartz charm
no new healer
gaunt star
all of these are dps
craggy pawn
Ink mage
What the mage gonna do?
Throw ink 🤭
pastel coyote
sorry the only job we could get is chemist..... remember the young miqote ?
mighty light
Necromancer is going to be a healer; its only spell will be raise
teal geyser
Ink mage
What the mage gonna do?
Throw ink 🤭
Summoner stuff at you
lavish sluice
Where was the Necromancer "hint"?
quartz charm
necromancer boss
gaunt star
^
lavish sluice
I said "hint"
quartz charm
hence hint in brackets
gaunt star
people just see class references and think its a hint to new classes
pastel coyote
there more luck to get T2 job with dragoon turning into Holy Dragoon than we get necromancer/basaka
mighty light
Doubt it will
lavish sluice
I want Mammeteer
mighty light
There's no way we get T2 jobs
That's so much work for no good reason I can think of
quartz charm
ye
pastel coyote
that's exactly what i said
quartz charm
redundant
mighty light
Yes, I get what you said, but there is a chance we get necromancer at some point
gaunt star
there is a chance we get ANY class
lavish sluice
Beast Master
gaunt star
but
lavish sluice
Remember the prank?
gaunt star
speaking as if its a fact its kind of stupid
pastel coyote
if anything i will look at what ff11 have and ff14 don't
lavish sluice
Mammeteer
gaunt star
tho im guessing we get a healer and a caster in 6.0
severe brook
i'm still guessing Chemist
pastel coyote
one healer will be enough
lavish sluice
And you can set any minion as your mammet appearance
severe brook
as a tech-based Healer
lavish sluice
gaunt star
isnt chemist a healer anyway
pastel coyote
something different from the other 3
quartz charm
so im wondering
mighty light
Accidentally initiating the Moonfaire Dance cutscene without BGM on was a mistake
severe brook
yes but if 6.0 is Garlemald it'd make sense to have one that's more technological than magical
spare steeple
killed that fecker
mighty light
This is fucking surreal
gaunt star
ew ex content
quartz charm
how much of what elidibus said during solo duty was him not knowing everything, distorting the facts to make us look worse, and whats an actual retcon?
gaunt star
all of what elidibus said was true tbh
lavish sluice
I wouldn't say he was distorting facts
He's just biased
quartz charm
well not all of it
gaunt star
most of it was tho
quartz charm
he said "if WoL died at sultanate, lahabrea wouldve been spared"
gaunt star
but whenever it came to questioning him he stepped back
severe brook
i think some things were purposefully being the most cynical he could be
gaunt star
well he would have been spared
pastel coyote
so far "ascian never lie" was true
gaunt star
^
lavish sluice
It's his pov of the events based on his beliefs
severe brook
like the stuff about Aymeric, Lucia, Raubahn, Hien, and Yugiri
quartz charm
i keep forgetting that we kill lahabrea at ARF, not praetorium
pastel coyote
but being biased is different
gaunt star
Lahabrea was killed by thordan
quartz charm
quartz charm
yeah no i see that now
severe brook
thordan probably would've been able to consume lahabrea even so
quartz charm
i jsut thought he was dead by then
severe brook
it just would've been more difficult
lavish sluice
We killed three Ascians before Elidibus
gaunt star
yeah but only 2 of them mattered
quartz charm
i thought lahabrea died at praetorium lol
lavish sluice
They all mattered to Elidibus
gaunt star
he barely escaped that das
pastel coyote
and from what we learned, Elidibus was strongly emotionnaly drived
quartz charm
well anyway
gaunt star
Elidibus was worse than Emet
stuck yarrow
Virgin dungeon ascian versus chad trial ascians
gaunt star
he forgot even the promise he gave and the person he made said promise to
pastel coyote
emotion is the worse thing to make judgment
gaunt star
lmao
quartz charm
he said as if we didnt try and didnt save estenien from niddhog
mighty light
Us getting Lahabrea killed was a direct consequence of his actions; I always thought that was deliberate on his part
I enjoyed this patch but like
As a direct consequence of this I'm coming out of it with an even lower opinion of him than I had before
gaunt star
that was the plan until Estinien took control of his body again temporarily
neat edge
lahabread will probably get another appearance in a thordan ultimate xD
stuck yarrow
Then again now that I think about it that would put Nabriales in the Chad category lmao
gaunt star
Lahabrea already got an appearance in Hades EX
gaunt star
well as merged ascian
static niche
;-;
gaunt star
but still
severe brook
the opening of thordan ultimate will just be him consuming lahabrea again
mighty light
Ascian Prime ultimate; Lahabrea and IgwhosenameIcan'tspell eat Thordan instead
severe brook
they could feasibly tie thordan and shinryu into one Ultimate for a "Saga of the Eyes" or something
but that might be a bit much, putting two expansion final bosses into one Ultimate
pastel coyote
gaunt star
@static niche suffer
pastel coyote
suffer ? suffering is ahead
severe brook
- Nidhogg Round 1
- Knights of the Round
- Nidhogg Round 2
- Shinryu
pastel coyote
well we could get something more.... simple
gaunt star
and we summon Omega
pastel coyote
Shinryu and Omega ?
stuck yarrow
When’s estinien gonna stop brooding and join the Scions already smh
severe brook
- Nidhogg Round 1
- Knights of the Round
- Nidhogg Round 2
- Shinryu
- Omega Round 1
- Exdeath
- Kefka
- Omega Round 2
gaunt star
Estinien is fine without joining the Scions
mighty light
Then Sephirot
Sofia
The other one
Kefka Round 2
gaunt star
he doesnt like tataru and krile anyway
stuck yarrow
He’s fine
But his needs don’t matter
stuck yarrow
No
thin crypt
why do we have plot armor
severe brook
oh wait yeah they can bring the warring triad into thordan
- Nidhogg Round 1
- Knights of the Round
- Sephirot
- Sophia
- Zurvan
- King Thordan
- Nidhogg Round 2
- Shinryu
- Omega Round 1
- Exdeath
- Kefka
- Omega Round 2
of course how did i not see it before
stuck yarrow
Alisaie is so good
craggy pawn
It felt like the ending of ffxiv kinda.
gaunt star
yeah
quartz charm
well it is the ending of shadowbringers
stuck yarrow
First time we’ve completed a story segment with more scions than we left off with
placid sail
hey fuck ishgard housing I want to live in that town from the sapphire weapon quest
gaunt star
5.3 was a social experiment to measure how to make me cry as hard as possible
pastel coyote
ho i'm sorry but this isn't a dream, it's the truth
severe brook
it's the ending of the plot that started in 1.0, in a way
pastel coyote
severe brook
while zenos' whole thing also technically started in that plot, he wasn't in 1.0
placid sail
we only got Zodiark and the sundered Ascians left now
pastel coyote
ze souuuuund
placid sail
I wonder if Zodiark can even still be woken up without Elidibus
teal geyser
Zeeenos
craggy pawn
Well he could be awaken through mr.zenos.
craggy pawn
That would be epic
teal geyser
Forced into it or if he takes control of Zodiark
placid sail
and we will take Venat's place
it's going to be the sapphire weapon fight except with two giant crystals
craggy pawn
I bet zodiark and hydaelyn will get destroyed.
pastel coyote
and going full KH ?
shy flax
new ex is fun
placid sail
severe brook
your dark god
hand him over
shy flax
there are aoes
shy flax
all of the aoes
craggy pawn
If hydaelyn dies tho, who will manage the lifestream🤔
placid sail
hades
acoustic garnet
Not sure if this is 5.3 related but more ARR. Is the Empire that keeps popping itself into ARR MSQ going to be relavent to free trial or is it more xpac stuff?
placid sail
are you still new to the game? you shouldn't be in here in that case
acoustic garnet
Well im not sure where else to ask :p
severe brook
the lifestream functioned before hydaelyn existed
it can continue after her
shy flax
just uh, avert your eyes lest you see something silly
severe brook
lore-spoilers might be better
acoustic garnet
Ah okay
shy flax
^
severe brook
or ffxiv-discussion
shy flax
pretty much any channel except this one
stuck yarrow
I wanna try and get into the new EX before everyone’s learned it already lmao
quartz charm
by the way, have we seen anything of fandaniel earlier? not like visually, obviously we saw him in earlier patches, but was the entity of fandaniel mentioned before?
craggy pawn
1.0
quartz charm
for real?
pastel coyote
foreal
craggy pawn
Googled a bit and there is like an elezen looking ascian called fandaniel.
One moment
craggy pawn
Travanchet fandaniel
rain badger
since they added graha as a trust in 5.3
unique verge
Unlikely
unique verge
I imagine that 5.4/5.5 wont be on the first at all
rain badger
to only be literally used once in a single instance
at that point its like "why even bother"
unique verge
Only because they had to for story reasons?
rain badger
idk
they could've done the whole
"oh she tagged along you jsut can't fight with her"
unique verge
Like, they had to have an extra DPS for that
unique verge
No i mean, your first trust run in Holminster they dont have another scion for you to run with.
rain badger
gotcha
stuck yarrow
Finally we have more than one available tank lmao
unique verge
but if you're a healer, you cant run with Alphinaud
rain badger
guess they were like
unique verge
so they had to have a second DPS for that scenario
swift kraken
no lyna trust 
rain badger
sucks that you literally only used her for one dungeon tho
and its missable lol
literally can't go back to see interactions if you didn't use her the first time
rain badger
thats a long time LOL
seems like it'd be easier
to just add her as a trust rather than
wait for NG+ lol
considering exarch doesn't even tag along
initially
so I assume trusts post-story aren't canon
swift kraken
wait
does that mean he has a unique animaton for crossing the dohn mheg bridge too
rain badger
ye
swift kraken
hell yea
rain badger
except its not unique animation
swift kraken
not hell yea
swift kraken
lol
rain badger
and beats her iirc
swift kraken
fair enough
stuck yarrow
Don’t you unlock the story versions of trusts after you max everyone out?
rain badger
do you?
stuck yarrow
I think so
rain badger
inb4 lyse becomes a trust in 5.4 before lyna does
/ any other person
relevant to plot lmao
possibly gaius?
seems like the next expansion is going to be garlemald themed
lavish sluice
Has anyone got the updated Yo-Kai Watch event assets?
Like the medal icons etc
I want they for a stream overlay next week
stuck yarrow
I like how Lyse hasn’t appeared at all since 4.56
rain badger
I forgot
Gosetsu was teased in heavensward to tease samurai right?
was there any character in SB that teased something for ShB?
rain badger
Did GBR Gaius get revealed in SB?
stuck yarrow
Is Gaius a Gunbreaker?
rain badger
swift kraken
❤️
rain badger
apparently that was in the burn
I wonder
who the "teaser character" is going to be
for ShB --> next expansion
and what job it'll be
stuck yarrow
Probably Riqi-tio
gaunt star
ew no
gaunt star
healer is geomancer 
toxic swift
Gaia Geomancer LET'S GO
placid sail
Gaius is more of a gunlancer
toxic swift
Tbh I think Geomancer will be a DPS class.
rain badger
is his weapon a lance?
lavish sluice
New class is Mirage Keeper
rain badger
It looks like a sword in most of the pictures of him
gaunt star
Gaia is an Oracle of Darkness, shes not classified as a Geomancer
toxic swift
Chemist seemed to be massively pushed I dunno. I wish geo was healer though
stuck yarrow
Didn’t the AST quests go on a whole thing convincing you AST and Geomancer are the same thing
placid sail
it's basically a very big bayonet
leaden fulcrum
is there a text guide for seat of sacrifice ex?
gaunt star
just dont die
rain badger
@leaden fulcrum https://docs.google.com/document/d/1f9G2c8M5u1j-1Dc1iMCyuEy70YioubM3KymHmZ5XWTs/edit
placid sail
geomancer would probably rely a lot on ground AoEs
leaden fulcrum
much appreciated!
rain badger
but don't use that
for ads
use this
that strat for ads is garbage
use that text guide for everything BUT ads
but yeah
tradititionally in FF
geomancer is a caster + bell that does magic
based on the terrain they're on
seems pretty far away from Astro in xiv
considering they're the card + healer
if anything WHM seems closer to Geomancer
considering they took the nature manipulation from geomancer
toxic swift
I've always thought of astro as a time mage
toxic swift
And I feel like Geomancer would be a caster with water wind and earth spells
toxic swift
We'll see though. They can do anything they want
rain badger
I think they just combined time mage + gambler / lady luck etc. for astro
and did Geo + white mage for white mage
since they did warrior = warrior + zerker
placid sail
I can't stop listening to this trial music
stuck yarrow
Honestly I don’t care that much
But I think chemist/apothecary would be cool
placid sail
To The Edge iirc
gaunt star
So like
Where on the map is Terncliff
placid sail
it's on the coast to the south east of ala mhigo
rain badger
My biggest question about the teaser character for 5.4/5.5
toxic swift
Also the reason I think they're doing Geomancer is simply down to where they took white mage with glare and dia
placid sail
since werlyt is east of ala mhigo, and terncliff is south from werlyt
rain badger
it'llb e weird
they kinda shoe horned themselves in geo = white mage
with the conjurer lore
placid sail
they took the class fantasy of machinist into the opposite direction too
rain badger
so without re-writing the entirity of the conjurer story line
placid sail
away from mostly gunslinger to much more gadgeteer
placid sail
same with white mage, away from nature mage much more to holy mage
rain badger
it should've been dia / glare = conjurerer from the start
errant mortar
Does anyone have some screenshots of raha's scion outfit? Not at pc and need full outfit ref uwu
rain badger
so that they don't intrude on design space
because they already have nature mage = conjurerer
they can't really make the same thing without intruding
The only "semi-intruding" thing they did
was red mage
but red mage has traditionally been "white + black"
I guess they could do geomancer by being "White + black + astro"
- asian motiff?
but that seems like too many design elements
placid sail
honestly with the jobs it sometimes feels like they don't really know where they want to take them
signal solar
we should have seen the elidibus/zodiark connection sooner
gaunt star
and some ppl already had considered that connection
swift kraken
@errant mortar im drawing him rn which ones u want
placid sail
it makes a lot more sense in hindsight
gaunt star
yeaa
errant mortar
@swift kraken just a front view and face close up if you have em!
rain badger
didn't people start predicitng like a long long long time ago
gaunt star
yea
rain badger
I remember people talking about the actual zodiac and zodiark's role + elidibus
placid sail
I am glad we finally got our fight against a "primal" Warrior of Light
that has been on my wishlist for this game for years
swift kraken
@errant mortar
rain badger
thief has been a FF trade mark job for a long time
swift kraken
rain badger
zerker not so much
swift kraken
rain badger
and necromancer was literally only used in like 2 final fantasies
stuck yarrow
Trying to decide if I have the motivation to put myself through another run of puppet bunker for the chest
rain badger
IIRC
placid sail
her lines implied she was tainted in some way
errant mortar
Ahhh tysm!
signal solar
well, this is who fandaniel represents, hope you are ready to see this again
swift kraken
the lighting in the room is sadly shit
rain badger
I think... necromancer was used in V advance
placid sail
but still a warrior of light
rain badger
Monk was seen, whm was seen, blm was seen
surprised we didn't see a RDM as an enemy in that dungeon
placid sail
I hope that if we ever go to another shard we will meet some of the WoLs whose spectres we fought
rain badger
yeah but so are necromancers LOL
placid sail
also curious if the Thief, the Necromancer and the Berserker were so strong because they are reflections of Azem
errant mortar
Oh shit
swift kraken
thanks gpose
rain badger
idk Thief is pretty
swift kraken
i forgot you existed
errant mortar
Gpose comin thru
signal solar
black mages are necromancers with standards
rain badger
"FINAL FANTASY" though
radiant badger
Witnessed and raised
rain badger
considering they were in I
stuck yarrow
He looks kinda like a Kingdom hearts character in that outfit lmao
errant mortar
Tysm 🥺
heady shadow
I would say Necromancy being a power of a ''Hero'/Warrior of Light'' is harder then Red Mge stuff.
swift kraken
its not his fault
rain badger
I'm surprised they did necromancer instead of sage tbh
swift kraken
without the really weird shadows it looks fairly normal
heady shadow
at least... we know that Necromancy is a thing
not just voidsent summoning
which edda did?
gaunt star
she was ressurected from the dead too
heady shadow
from a guy from a different universe though
gaunt star
not like her husband however
signal solar
that guy was also already dead
gaunt star
i mean necromancy on XIV hails from another shard
stuck yarrow
Hrng I want gear based on necromancer lady’s outfit
swift kraken
oh jesus the new eye following thing
gaunt star
seeing as the WoL spectrers w/e are from other shards
swift kraken
thats more hatred than ive ever seen out of cutscenes
heady shadow
I guess theres comments from ryne that she had a sad aether or something
stuck yarrow
I have a miqo with giant ass eyebrows so every expression is really exaggerated
gaunt star
time to finish this on my alt
swift kraken
people who have no eyebrows on their miqote arent real
and if they are i want nothing to do with them
heady shadow
the primal kid went and became the Hero he envisioned himself as
which could have been our unsundered self
sad
heady shadow
his memories are shot but if for some reason he was friends with our original self too and wanted to be like us...
swift kraken
isnt that the implication
gaunt star
Hey is it me or are these new trial quests pretty good
heady shadow
because he was a Fan of ours and didnt even remember
stuck yarrow
We Gundam now bois
noble tartan
all thats left is to fight myself
@swift kraken Did you try the DRK questline lol
noble tartan
o shit
swift kraken
hype
stuck yarrow
If you’re a dragoon the boss jumps off the platform and you win instantly
radiant badger
@heady shadow Ultimate Crossover, you mean?
noble tartan
If you’re a BLM the healers adjust
radiant badger
Gud name on the thing 
heady shadow
I wonder if we'll get another level
radiant badger
Nah.
swift kraken
time to have a 10s animation lockout
stuck yarrow
I don’t think the trial was hinting towards a player lb4
radiant badger
Pretty sure it was more him tryna go 'I AM BETTER THAN YOU' and.. failing horribly
heady shadow
i guess...
radiant badger
And also completely wasting himself
heady shadow
since a tank lb3 beat it
radiant badger
we didn't get tank LB for it
heady shadow
I did xD
radiant badger
Yep.
craggy pawn
Took us 3 Times to find the perfect timing for the tank lb.
radiant badger
80
gaunt star
You know what i ended up loving
swift kraken
also kudos for the trial
gaunt star
About the WoL End
swift kraken
the guitar lead in to the song
swift kraken
is the sexiest thing i ever heard
heady shadow
know what I liked?
stuck yarrow
Well there aren’t many instances where it’s worth it over a DPS or healer lb3
craggy pawn
Exarch said:sike
heady shadow
was when Emet spoke to us and saved our asses lol
radiant badger
You know what I didn't like?
radiant badger
gaunt star
I just love it cus all i remember is the death faces of Dragon Ball, Like Cell or Zaramasu
Which is just
radiant badger
Too late
swift kraken
even knowing that he was gonna be fine
i still cried
YEAH
i went intot he ocular and its empty
no way to get up
stuck yarrow
Shame, DRK and GNB LB3 is pretty cool
heady shadow
well honestly, even if we did know.
rain badger
wait
heady shadow
Exarch is still dead
heady shadow
for now ye
rain badger
rip
heady shadow
till 5.5
noble tartan
Ride eternally in chrome crystal
heady shadow
you know what is a real eyesore?
the puppet bunker trying to look like it's so far away when it isnt
rain badger
I don't think my group wiped at all for puppet o-o
echo orbit
i like how you can see mt.gulg in the puppet bunker
rain badger
we had to LB3 but we didn't wipe
thin crypt
when she keeps sucking
echo orbit
rather than copied factory nonsense of mountains everywhere
rain badger
I wonder what's going to happen for nier 5.5
heady shadow
man... the mount of cluutch wins in my PB run
rain badger
are we going into space?
heady shadow
yikes
swift kraken
the compound was disgusting too
stuck yarrow
Running puppet bunker makes me realize I have 0 situational awareness
swift kraken
blech
swift kraken
i thought it was fun
heady shadow
I am pretty sure.... the Compound is Maso.
swift kraken
still fun on the 2nd go
rain badger
I still don't understand
swift kraken
i wish they made it harder in some places but i get it
rain badger
how you figure out which laser beam part is the safe part
I just ran to where the group ran
for the 2nd? boss?
echo orbit
21o?
stuck yarrow
How do people do this shit I can’t handle all these things at once
swift kraken
the screens show if its laser or big aoe
rain badger
I saw some people guess wrong
and a safe spot wasn't made
and I was like
???
why is this part a safe spot
but the other spot not
rain badger
uhh where they converge
heady shadow
you know... I just... kind knew wht to do
rain badger
ye
heady shadow
I dont understnd hlf the mechs in tht rid lol
echo orbit
the one that's safe is the one that overlaps faster
heady shadow
I just... do em
rain badger
oh so you look at speed
stuck yarrow
I tend to do what everyone else is doing which has.... a questionable success rate
heady shadow
I just look t shit
because I'm always looking at my hotbars because curse my attention span
I need like to only stare for.... 2 seconds
stuck yarrow
The last boss was the least awful part tbh
echo orbit
last boss was pushover
swift kraken
last boss isnt punishing enough
rain badger
the 3 ships
swift kraken
rain badger
we almost wiped lol
vivid notch
man this loses a lot of emotional impact if you don't care about G'Raha huh
stuck yarrow
Compared to the other bosses in that raid the last one’s mechanics are easier to get
stuck yarrow
Wow
swift kraken
bold of you to say this to me
stuck yarrow
How can someone be so wrong
unreal wadi
In all honesty...the hype really paid off really well for 5.3
Never have felt so many different emotions, ever since HW
heady shadow
shb in all, even with some problems, is pretty damn worthy of it's hype
I daresay at times it exceeded it's hype
vivid notch
eh
swift kraken
i felt like the wait was worth
stuck yarrow
Yeah 5.3 delivered pretty much everything I wanted and did it well
vivid notch
could have less Crystal Tower
swift kraken
ive never been so happy in my life
unreal wadi
I need to do puppets a couple more times
vivid notch
or at least G'Raha could've died
swift kraken
that being said they should rewrite CT a bit
unreal wadi
when everyone wipes 10 seconds into the first boss
vivid notch
or at least they could've given the option to not treat G'Raha as a dear friend
unreal wadi
vivid notch
because fuck that guy
swift kraken
unreal wadi
Tank privilege is strong
stuck yarrow
What’s your problem wrong man
swift kraken
y u hate him
vivid notch
he sucks
unreal wadi
vivid notch
he is an uninteresting character that the game desperately wants me to like
unreal wadi
Opinions will be opinions
heady shadow
eh...
unreal wadi
heady shadow
the game isnt forcing you to like him
vivid notch
yes it is
heady shadow
the game is forcing you to like the ascians
vivid notch
I mean it's not succeeding
stuck yarrow
You have a right to be wrong
vivid notch
but it's trying its best
heady shadow
Hmmm...... I never got the impression it was forcing me to like him
heady shadow
rather it forced me to watch the scions become more of a family
vivid notch
also they at least have a personality
vivid notch
I like Emet not because of his tragic backstory or his excuse for genocide or whatever
but because he is a shithead
Elidibus I really like as a villain
heady shadow
I feel like Elidibus is a victim here.....
thin crypt
he is
heady shadow
basically forced to be the heart of zodiark
vivid notch
because I like the "okay normally we could talk but the circumstances as they are forbid that so we must fight" villain
heady shadow
cant even remember who he gave promises too
vivid notch
I think he is the best villain of FFXIV tbh
even more than Zenos
and I love my juicy boi
swift kraken
the problem is he spent 3 expacs being a boring fuck
thin crypt
the WoL is committing genocide in the source and in the first
swift kraken
in hindsight, makes sense
heady shadow
Shit even Emet made preparations to help us beat the kid
long kettle
does anyone have any images of the nier raid glams? haven't seen any aiming stuff at all :<
vivid notch
also a small thing I like is that Ascian speech is watermelon coloured
thin crypt
nier glam here @long kettle https://www.siliconera.com/final-fantasy-xiv-patch-5-3-trailer-nier-automata-raid-part-2-updated-yo-kai-watch-event-and-more/
vivid notch
I just like Ryne
long kettle
oh, thank you @thin crypt 
thin crypt
only images we got
vivid notch
wish she'd be a character going forward
heady shadow
I feel like I just got hit with a ace attorney Objection just now....
vivid notch
I'd be fine with cat fuckboy over there if Ryne was a character too
but it's doubtful that she'll be so meh
thin crypt
whos more useless hein or ryne
vivid notch
also I never noticed how tiny Alisaie and Alphinaud are
are we sure they are 16?
they look way younger
swift kraken
lyse
vivid notch
Lyse
thin crypt
correct
heady shadow
Papalymo
vivid notch
hey don't you dare say that about the best potato
unique verge
Nah Papalymo isnt useless. He's useful for cleaning up after Lyse. Notice how much shit she screwed up after he was dead.
heady shadow
best potato used to die so we suffer with lyse
rain badger
man lame
trust damage goes down in proportion to us doing high damage
but it doesn't go up in proportion to us doing low damage
unique verge
Yup
rain badger
what if you just suck at MMOs or are disabled
swift kraken
$$
unique verge
this sounds like gcbtw talk
thin crypt
so did Raubahn you know a lala to get a lala as a kid 
swift kraken
people finished alex ultimate with 1 hand
rain badger
and afk and watch netflix while having the trusts
do all the work for me
:#
thats what I even made that argument
unique verge
Okay that's totally gcbtw talk lol
rain badger
loool
swift kraken
you can still do that
rain badger
I try hard in dungeons but if they're going to do low damage JUST because I am 2 gud at the game
swift kraken
just gonna take em 40 mins
swift kraken
i think graha actually has slightly higher damage
unique verge
Not all the trusts are created equal
Alphinaud is a shitty healer compared to Urianger
swift kraken
someone tested it and said running with him makes it 6 min faster
unique verge
and Y'shtola is frankly shit in general
swift kraken
AND he spams holy
rain badger
thats why I didn't touch trusts @ all
swift kraken
my man
rain badger
Why bother using something that'll make it a 30 minute run
when I can be not shit and finish in like <20
swift kraken
finally a whm i trust
unique verge
Okay and.....how do you level your DPS then. Fairy dailies for 3 months?
swift kraken
imagine friends
stuck yarrow
The only time he used holy when I had him as healer (pre 5.3) was on the boss lmao
unique verge
lol
swift kraken
yeah he apparently spams it on mobs now
actually elt me test this
into holminster we go
faint dagger
or, gather logs for 20 minutes in queue and make fat stacks
swift kraken
grand parcel
anyone know what the type-53 casting coat looks like on males?