retired-patch-6-3-discussion

[wet crown]

he doesn't understand that either

[earnest sedge]

:p

[rain badger]

wait I forgot, didn't his body

get decapitated or something

the original one

[faint dagger]

zenos's soul hopped into another body, he used that body to challenge Elidibus in his own body and chased him out

[untold gull]

he used an ability similar to ascians

[wet crown]

No, he slit his throat

[untold gull]

because of that weird echo shit he has

[earnest sedge]

cant believe elidibus lost to that snail

[neat edge]

All we need is to do is give him the ascian treatment

[faint dagger]

inb4 zenos is like, one less sundered than the rest of us

somehow

[steep cape]

zenos got hit with op stick

[earnest sedge]

mf moves slower than my trip to the waking sands pre 5.3

[neat edge]

5.3 was a crazy ride, 5.2 ended with us looking at the moon, now we the sun

[ashen coral]

Lure Zenos to the Crystal Tower and have Graha blast him the same way we blasted Elidibus

EZ

[pastel coyote]

well we can only suppose his ability to use the echo with such..... ease ? is linked to the fact that he's a greatchild of Emet

[untold gull]

btw, speaking of zenos, remember how fandaniel mentions something about passing memories through genetics and he wonders if emet really succeeded...or somethign along that lines? i wonder if they're ever gonna elaborate on that

from 5.2 end cutscene

wait, was it 5.2 or 5.1

[steep cape]

wait when did we look at the sun

[pastel coyote]

we can't, it's hurt the eyes

[jovial verge]

Remember they also did a ton of testing with Zenos when he was young, probably more than just artificial echo and lineage at work

[steep cape]

less lineage

emet just borrowed the dong

[earnest sedge]

lol

[untold gull]

more genetic engineering, wouldn't it be?

[earnest sedge]

borrow dong

[untold gull]

well, i'm guessing tbh. but yeah lol, borrowing someone's ~ahem yeah...

[neat edge]

If they can do artificial echo and oversoul, that's nothing beyond them

[untold gull]

wait, oversoul....what if that's how zodiark might be revived somehow...

[pastel coyote]

nah

[untold gull]

but they'd need a lot of data tho

[earnest sedge]

Speaking of

[pastel coyote]

even an auracite can't contain a primal

[earnest sedge]

Has anyone figured ou thow to get big tiddy goth gf minion?

[untold gull]

man, we can't really know anything for sure until 5.4 where they start laying out foundations of 6.0

[steep cape]

spam dungeon

[pastel coyote]

so an elder primal like Zodiark ? never

[earnest sedge]

Its that rare?

Ive done the for the whole afternoon

[pastel coyote]

nah goth gf are common thing

[earnest sedge]

Unlucky :(

[steep cape]

just me

[untold gull]

tbf, zodiark is also, for lack of a better word, sundered, isn't he?

[earnest sedge]

Does it sit on your shoulder when you beckon it?

[pastel coyote]

yep

[neat edge]

That's why people make Bank on the market board

[steep cape]

do casting and healing stuff have a lower drop rate

[pastel coyote]

zodiark take the sundered-kick directly

[earnest sedge]

How much does it sell for?

The goth gf

[untold gull]

but yeah, he's still powerful af tho being a primal born from ancients themselves...

[neat edge]

Minion does not respond beside /handover with mammeteer

[earnest sedge]

I see

[steep cape]

dont think the garleans can revive zodiark

[untold gull]

man, making theories out of this is so confusing

[earnest sedge]

How much is the minion selling for tho

Im curious now

[pastel coyote]

well from what we know he can't do shit: no heart to speak, no unsundered to raise his follower

[earnest sedge]

Now

*not in game ;-;

[steep cape]

we know sure as hell fandaniel's just here to mess with things

[untold gull]

even the sundered who knows of him don't even want to deal with him anymore lol

poor zodiark, becoming forgotten

[earnest sedge]

Unless its part of some bigger picture long ass revenge plot

[pastel coyote]

That's the part i think odd with him, he doesn't seem to care about zodiark, more about doing shit

[neat edge]

I figure they can get Zodiark, but not at full power

[earnest sedge]

That or fuggen zenos is gonna be the catalyst for it

[untold gull]

zenos is definitely interested in zodiark tho

so that's something

[earnest sedge]

Like shinryu

[untold gull]

yeah, quite possibly

[steep cape]

what if zodiark is defeated
not in a fight
but just by losing all the faith

[earnest sedge]

Thats my predictions

Hes gonna source some

Otherworldly power

And we have to anime our way

Towards him

And he's almost gonna win

[untold gull]

eyy, we do have the G-Warrior with so many anime poses

[earnest sedge]

Then we step in with the power of friendship

And beat his ass

[steep cape]

ffs, again..

[earnest sedge]

I mean

Thats usually how it goes

[untold gull]

in this case, from how zenos views, it's quite literally power of friendship

since, we're his only friend and all and he just treats our 'rivalry' as what friends do

just casually trying to kill each other

[oak pike]

Zenos only friend?

[earnest sedge]

Ill race zenos

[untold gull]

his words, not ours

[earnest sedge]

He moves slow but when he wants to go fast

He can go p fast

[oak pike]

Oh I remember that scene

[earnest sedge]

He just wants to play a game

Thats how I see it

[untold gull]

he legit considers us his friend, which is a kind of nice twisted gesture

[earnest sedge]

In this case its more of a naruto sasuke thing cept we're both sasuke

[faint dagger]

because he sees us as the only one who enjoys the thrill of combat and pursuit

like he does

[untold gull]

the only person that can show him new things, only person that can't bore him and all

[glacial turret]

Zenos sucks

[earnest sedge]

Thats an interesting parallel to how we killed elidibus' test of strength

Now that you mention it

@faint dagger

[faint dagger]

well elidibus couldn't even visualise zenos

well enough to portray him

[earnest sedge]

Well yea

I meant how we just slaughtered p much his "test"

Which included people we knew

Etc.

But anyways

Cant wait for the story to progress

With graha onboard

:D

[untold gull]

btw. that top y'shtola has when they all woke up (seriously, why is she the only one with different top), can we get that as an outfit somewhere?

[neat edge]

She's the only woman.

[topaz river]

Alisae is just chopped liver I guess

[nocturne void]

Due to the laws of my country, yes

[untold gull]

lol

[waxen karma]

Zenos only friend?
@oak pike can I post a comedic video that has relevance again for this relelationship?

I was reminded of it after finishing the game yesterday

[earnest sedge]

We can get that top @untold gull

[neat edge]

(Alisae has a midlander male child body)

[earnest sedge]

Idrm what its called bc i play a male char but one of my fc mates use that

[untold gull]

oh, okay, ic ic. as long as it's in game, i'm fine with that. i just wanna know if we can get it is all. thanks

[earnest sedge]

Yea we can get it

[untold gull]

also, wtf, alisaie's body is based on what

[earnest sedge]

However that top only looks like that on Miqo

Jsyk

[untold gull]

wat

WHAT

[earnest sedge]

Only on female miqo

[untold gull]

WHY

NOOOOOOO

[earnest sedge]

It looks diff on other races

[untold gull]

BUT AM LIZARD

NOOOOOOO

[earnest sedge]

I mean

I could be wrong

Go ask peeps in #glamour-discussion

iirc alot of female tops look diff on diff races

My assumption was that top was one of those as ive only ever seen miqo's wear a top like that

[untold gull]

huh...i never knew they all look different tbh. i just thought it's mostly different between lala and everyone else

[earnest sedge]

My FC mate and static member included, and they fantasia alot

Alotta "basic" looking tops have this feature

[carmine basin]

It's hempen camise that looks different for every race/gender

[gaunt star]

okay so this Valens guy being the 7th legion, Hojo reference right?

[earnest sedge]

^^

Thats one example of a top that changes w race

Yes

[gaunt star]

but he's like, buff and shit and seems to fight

[untold gull]

huh...

[gaunt star]

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/finalfantasy/images/4/43/Weiss_DoC2.png/revision/latest?cb=20200516053644

LETS GO

HOJO POSSESSES THIS GUY IN DOC

DOUBLE WHAMMY

[untold gull]

also, Hojo - would he be the chief scientist dude they were talking about in that one cutscene?

i think it was about meeting with chief scientist or something

but maybe they mean hojo?

[gaunt star]

have you done the sapphire weapon stuff?

[rain badger]

p sure hojo

is a ff7 reference

[gaunt star]

im talking about the legatus in that

[untold gull]

oh

yeah i've done it. i just don't remember a lot of names from ff7 lore despite my fav game from that is dirge of cerberus and i cannot remember names of bad guys there

[gaunt star]

the Legatus Valens van Vorro is probably a Hojo reference being a mad scientist and all that

[molten pagoda]

I think the WoL is actually a moogle that has been fantasiad into something else sometime before ARR

[gaunt star]

but considering he's a fighter and stuff they will probably pull double duty by referencing Weiss from DoC

[timid solstice]

so sapphire weapon is a solo duty

[untold gull]

it's quite fun imo

[timid solstice]

is pyreite booster worth ti

[untold gull]

the one that speeds you up?

[earnest sedge]

Does sapphire wep even give you anything?

Or

Like the duty

[untold gull]

yes for movement and for final phase because it increase weaponskills cd

well, decrease?

[pastel tartan]

Yeah I had pyrite on like all the time

[earnest sedge]

Havent done it yet

[untold gull]

anyway, makes you attack faster

[pastel tartan]

well over half anyway

[oak pike]

Get in the fucking robot WoL

[untold gull]

i only mostly used it on the later half of the fight

[earnest sedge]

Does it drop glam or smth?

[oak pike]

Can’t wait to do sapphire weapon

[earnest sedge]

What do you get from it

[untold gull]

uh.... nuffin?

well you get to take a look at your new gundam G-Warrior i guess?

i absolutely love the cockpit design

simple and looking behind you actually makes a lot of sense

[ashen coral]

There's a nice little surprise but... eh fuck it, this is the spoiler channel

You get to explore a pretty little town

I appreciated it at least lol

Anyway you'll have to do Sapphire at some point anyway in order to continue the series in 5.4 so no point holding back

[untold gull]

I didn't know it was required

Nevertheless, would that mean that terncliff is essentially the beachhead for the resistance? Or maybe they'll be pushing towards werlyt and that becomes our entrance to garlemald

So many possibilities

[ashen coral]

Don't see why it wouldn't be required to kill off Sapphire; it's the same situation during the Warring Triad in HW where there was a solo duty between Sephirot and Sophia that was mandatory

But yeah

[severe brook]

I feel like Terncliff probably won't be the entrance to Garlemald since Werlyt is an optional storyline
and i think it's implied the Empire is going to try to retake it soon

[ashen coral]

I love Terncliff

Want more to do there for sure

[severe brook]

i wouldn't be surprised if 5.4 includes the Emerald Weapon launching a surprise attack to take out the G-Warrior to justify us not being able to use it again, or at least for a while

[untold gull]

Goddammit you're right

[severe brook]

Rex likely will be piloting it to get his "revenge"

[untold gull]

We just got a gundam and suddenly we're losing it again

[median torrent]

I get a horrible feeling Allie will be the pilot.

[untold gull]

But gameplay wise, it makes sense because chances are the next one is gonna be a trial too

[faint dagger]

@earnest sedge you get a housing item

for sapphire

it's a bust of sapphire

[earnest sedge]

Oooo i c

Tyty

[quasi zodiac]

Does this make you even sadder?

[gaunt star]

OH NO

[swift kraken]

ive just rewatched that cutscene

i cried so much my eyes are actually hurting

what a fucking top 10 best anime cutscenes of all time moment

[faint dagger]

oh that's

horrible

[molten pagoda]

Im currently in the part where elidibus summons fakes of people we know

why do I have the feing hes gonna make me kill yshtola

[swift kraken]

die, catgirl

[foggy coyote]

I'm confused about where Terncliff is. They said Werlyt is westof Ala Mhigo, and Terncliff is far south of Werlyt... But if you looo at the map of Eorzea, following those directions puts you in the ocean.

[faint dagger]

well terncliff is coastal

[pine epoch]

Yes turncliff is by the ocean

Its a port town

[molten pagoda]

I hope im wrong

[foggy coyote]

I'm saying that the distance on the actual map doesn't make sense.

I think they need to redraw the map to actually have the spacing make sense visually.

[pine epoch]

It's in the south west

From the directions they give

I can pinpoint its location

[foggy coyote]

Cuz there's not really any room for more cities based on those directions on the drawn map.

[pine epoch]

A rough

Pin point

[foggy coyote]

Go ahead, and I'll see if I find it feasible

Because imo, there just needs to be more surface area between Ala Mhigo and the coast

With how they drew it

[pine epoch]

Somewhere here

[foggy coyote]

Isn't Ala Mhigo right where the flag is?

[pine epoch]

I gave the circle a big radius to account for error as the clouds on ilsibard obscure our knowledge of where things like wyrlet and bozja are

Ala Mhigo would be roughly where the city icon would be

[foggy coyote]

If I follow Severa's directions, assuming Ala Mhigo is where that icon is, that's where it tehcnically puts Terncliff.

So either they should adjust how she describes where it is or maybe Ala Mhigo isn't literally there?

[radiant badger]

Yes I'm 100% sure cities and markers are 100% to scale on maps

[pine epoch]

Wyrlet would be in the clouds

with Ghimlyt

[radiant badger]

Also that's east.

[foggy coyote]

Is the sarcasm really necessary? I'm just trying to understand how others interpret it. Sheesh.

[radiant badger]

Not west.

[foggy coyote]

Wait, does she say west or east?

Because that might be what got me tripped up.

[radiant badger]

Hell if I know. Absolutely geographical accuracy is something I care not for.
Can I read the map and get from A to B?
That's what matters to me.

rough accuracy is a bonus, and even then, imposing distances based off vague words is kind of..

[pine epoch]

Like ya theres no way to pin point it

You can guess

[radiant badger]

'to the west' can mean anything from two blocks to an entire continent

[pine epoch]

but we don't know where Wyrlet even is

its just on the other side of ghimlyt

and ghimlty would be North West of Gyr Abania

leading into ilsabard

[radiant badger]

Kudos for effort, credit where it's due.
But you're lacking a lot of information to actually narrow this down in any meaningful fashion.

Or accurate fashion tbh.

In unrelated news, why is everyone clamoring for the stats on the ranged tops?

[pine epoch]

We have X but we dont have Y

[radiant badger]

There like a crit breakpoint ranged bis is just sitting under or something

[frozen spade]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/699582194062065715/743154437207621662/unknown.png

hey SE, gives us more good shit like this

Just one button to turn in

no drag n drop, no right click to turn in, no multiple windows

[radiant badger]

Shit I actually saw that yesterday and didn't even notice that

Which is a good thing lol

[frozen spade]

yeah is so fucking good

turn in a huge amount of collectables in seconds

[radiant badger]

So CLEAN

[frozen spade]

we no longer trapped in the past

we have progress enough

[radiant badger]

Speaking of. I need to get the new stat breakpoints on the new crafting stuff

[frozen spade]

just buy the gear off the MB. Its under 700k now

[radiant badger]

Server.

[frozen spade]

on primal crafters under 1mil as low as 500k now

[radiant badger]

Was 1.3m yesterday on gilg and I'm sitting on like 3.3m atm

[frozen spade]

while gatherers and the main arms are over 2+ mil

I feel like making new crafted stuff on patch day no longer a huge money maker anymore as we have a lot of lvl 80 crafters now since ishgard restoration

[radiant badger]

Ishgard restoration only helped leveling. Not so much the actual crafting.

[neat edge]

some people are just impatient

[tight isle]

the mats for new crafted stuff are only getting cheaper

[radiant badger]

Material collection is still fucking annoying. Timed nodes are irritating, scrip farming sucks, and botching a step can botch the entire craft

It is what it is, but it's not exactly fun to most.

I'm not saying change it

[tight isle]

also yeah there's tons of level 80 crafters for people who would otherwise never touch that side of the game thanks to ishgard restoration

[radiant badger]

But I sure as hell can pass on it unless I have immediate need of it

[neat edge]

there's nothing new to craft with challenge right now, gotta wait restoration (which still won't be a huge challenge yet)

[tight isle]

crafter shit on crystal is like 400k now

literally give it a week and it's going to collapse to 100k

the real money maker comes from selling mats to the big supply of 80 crafters

[neat edge]

unless they really make the next tool steps, have a higher crafting floor

[radiant badger]

And that's before pentamelding which is it's own shitshow. I blew 21 goddamn materia on a 17% meld.

Like.. What.

More than a little pissed at that one yesterday

[tight isle]

h a p s

[prisma vine]

oh boy everyone in the rp side is now arguing about whether or not elidibus was a child

[swift kraken]

well, was he

[neat edge]

we cleansed the darkness

[radiant badger]

I think it's more symbolic in that he was totally goddamn helpless.

[prisma vine]

he looked like. low elezen sized

not alph small but smaller than hythlo

[swift kraken]

well

[prisma vine]

but why would they elect a child to office?

[neat edge]

could be a junior ancient

[swift kraken]

yeah thats the question

[neat edge]

remember the shades called us little ones

[prisma vine]

i just made the assumption he was a LOT younger than the others

because electing a child seemed....weird

[radiant badger]

As for a child, two things.
One, he's a primal. So that's already a thing.
Two, look at the WHM NPCs. And he's significantly, INCREDIBLY SIGNIFICANTLY older than they are.
Not sure size counts for shit here.

[swift kraken]

well

[frozen spade]

primal right now

[radiant badger]

Three, his reasoning isn't necessarily childish, so he's got a fair bit of maturity to him.

... Even if he's not even sure of his own reasons anymore.

[swift kraken]

yeah but the amaurotinians did treat kids like kids

and judging by his memories

[radiant badger]

Of course they did.

[swift kraken]

he seemed to be a child

even back then

[radiant badger]

Explain.

[swift kraken]

look how the people in the flashbacks are all staring him down

height difference

[prisma vine]

I'm an adult and most adults stare down at me

I'm just a manlet

[swift kraken]

considering all the context we got with us being called kids

if elidibus is the same size as us

then yeah he was a kid

[radiant badger]

Because you're looking through his memories. It makes more sense if he's seeing said memories from his current (ascian) form.

[prisma vine]

probably why all the "short = child" arguments infuriate me

[radiant badger]

Strengthened by when he looks at his (clearly human/ascian) hands in one of them.

[swift kraken]

its not that youre being called a child cuz youre short its cuz the game tells us anything our size is considered a child

wouldnt it have been memories from the time he was still elidibus back then

memories dont change because ur a different size

[radiant badger]

Depends on how you're looking at them.

The echo isn't exactly us looking at our own memories.

And most memories aren't from first-person perspectives anyways

[swift kraken]

he seems to be aware of his past to some degree seeing as he accepts hes zodiark

so yeah he knows

why would he see his own memories through his current form

[radiant badger]

But I digress, you do you. RPers are goddamn weird and I'm staying so far out of that field.

Because in the end

It ain't even matter.

[swift kraken]

at this point i dont even care about the rp because i was wondering myself

[radiant badger]

Not unless you're planning on doing shit to it.

And like that's EVER stopped the internet anyways

[swift kraken]

why did the amaurotinians let a child into office

[tight isle]

nothing like gay catboy erp drama in shout chat to wake up to in uldah

[swift kraken]

[tight isle]

[frozen spade]

time to prog the ex

[swift kraken]

thats like my 1 big question

[radiant badger]

Actually here's a very easy point

[prisma vine]

is the snap n gay lil wave in ex

[radiant badger]

You're not even looking at memories. There's no locational aspect to them to even compare to.

It's clearly words of perspective.

[swift kraken]

isnt

he saying

that we were looking through his memories

[polar star]

Have fun dying to first limit break for 4 pulls stone

[swift kraken]

[radiant badger]

You're not looking through his DIRECT WORD FOR WORD super accurate memories.

You're witnessing blank statements in a black void.

[swift kraken]

right after we look at elidibus memory through the echo the first time around he says "rifling through my memories wont do you any good"

[frozen spade]

all the weapons from the EX look very unique but...don't look good? The PLD one looks fine tho

[swift kraken]

and theyre in first person

unlike

every other memory

[polar star]

I like the weapons tbh

The just look kinda like sticks.

[radiant badger]

Clearly those ancients are meant to signify ancients are talking rather than an actual memory.

[frozen spade]

i think its teh slight glow on them is throwing me off about it

[swift kraken]

[prisma vine]

pieces of memories? dont you have fragmented memories?

[swift kraken]

i think thats a bit of a reach

im not gonna lie

[prisma vine]

where all you have is some words n a picture?

[median roost]

He is literally explained as barely remembering that time

[radiant badger]

No, you're totally right, they totally had multiple conversations in a blank ass void.

[polar star]

I want the DRK WoL weapon because HOLY SHIT ILVL 495 DET CRIT

[prisma vine]

not rhetorical like not a ton but i have memories that are like...flashes and bits of a memory

[swift kraken]

im not sure what you are arguing for actually

[radiant badger]

Abd they're absolutely guaranteed to be the same before and after he got zodiark'd.

I'd care more to argue and articulate further if I weren't in the middle of my workday stuck with a mobile keyboard.

[prisma vine]

I'm saying that it was a solid representation of fragmented memories. and then he says we won't get anything good from rummaging in his memories (presumably due to the fact they're so fragmented) and pointing to irl fragmented memories and how one might show that in a game

[frozen spade]

MCH is DET and DHIT

[swift kraken]

even if you have fragmented memories

he still seemed to remember that people were talking down to him

[prisma vine]

oh i was just explaining why he might see them oddly in general

[frozen spade]

all the healers EX weapons have piety on them

[swift kraken]

this seems like a convoluted way to explain away that he wasnt a child back then

[prisma vine]

my only arguments for "not a child" are legit "why would they elect a child"

lol

[swift kraken]

yeah

thats like

[radiant badger]

Based on his size alone, despite later 'memories' directly pointing out he's clearly in human form in said conversations.

[swift kraken]

my only question

[prisma vine]

the other bit was just me saying "they did a good job with showing broken memories"

mobile keyboard sorry

maybe they had human hands doom

[swift kraken]

amaurotinians have human hands

[prisma vine]

yeah

well

humans have amaurotine hands

[swift kraken]

yeah but

you know what i mean

[prisma vine]

:p

man that guy who doesn't get the echo but starts cryin

[radiant badger]

If it's from a perspective situation then we're in an entirely different boat.
But let me turn around a different question then:

Why WOULD they elect a child into a critically important position in their entire social structure?

That's moronic.

Especially when they're shown to have concern for their kids' development?

[swift kraken]

yeah thats my question

[craggy gale]

damn short people don't exist

[swift kraken]

but everything seems to imply that he was a child back then

[radiant badger]

Sidequests state that children are far from great at the whole creation thing, which is a huge part of ascian society.

And I say again. 'Everything.' you're basing it ON SIZE ALONE.

In busted memories.

[swift kraken]

im also basing it on the fact that we see elidibus as a child at the end of the trial

which is

[radiant badger]

Without any sort of accurate representation beyond 'here there be ancients'

[swift kraken]

pretty strong evidence

unless you want to unironically tell me he was just really short

[prisma vine]

@craggy gale mood lol my five foot manlet ass like "wow i aint got no rights"

[radiant badger]

Right it's not like its common to state a lost spirit in a child's form for emotional reasons at all when they LONG lost their way.

AKA 'they're who they used to be long ago'

Come on dude, that's cliché as hell

It's not even grasping at straws either

[neat edge]

think about the soulless bodies on other shards, that must be scary.

[swift kraken]

yeah but combined with the size difference in the fragment memories im sceptical

like

[prisma vine]

maybe yoshida will address it in the post-patch interviews. as well as azem vs emet in the trial lol

[radiant badger]

You're skeptical because you want it to be the case for whatever reason.

[swift kraken]

what

[prisma vine]

i just want the 14 reunited

[swift kraken]

mate i just want to discuss stuff i dont care that much

[radiant badger]

There's not much to discuss.

[swift kraken]

id just like something that puts a nail in the coffin for either one

[radiant badger]

You're looking at what's most likely actions in symbolic and stating them at raw fact.

[swift kraken]

you have no proof its symbolic either is the problem

could be could not be

i dont have any reason to believe it is aside from "its a cliche"

[radiant badger]

Despite the 'facts' making no sense in context

Like actually no sense

[swift kraken]

it can definitely make sense, but really the key is why the amaurotinians chose a child and here we are discussing fragmented memories or whatever

or well

why they did not

i just think its an interesting theory

if you asked me what i actually believe id answer differently

[prisma vine]

well what do you actually believe

[swift kraken]

its the childlike devotion to the cause/naviete of elidibus that manifested as our elidibus, not really the entire person

[prisma vine]

I'd buy that too

ye

[next oriole]

for the bunker, after clearing it for the first time, am i not allowed to go through the gate?

sector b

[gaunt star]

@swift kraken why you aaa-ing?

[next oriole]

their toes were stubbed by the door

simple

[swift kraken]

@gaunt star

[severe brook]

👍

[swift kraken]

👍

[echo orbit]

didn't know graha had elezen blood

that neck

[swift kraken]

miqote men have neck too

[gaunt star]

@swift kraken

damn squid

[swift kraken]

necc

[foggy coyote]

I imagine that if you pick any of the silly options, Gaius was probably all over there like, "...Is this what I lost to? Seriously?"

[open verge]

It’s more like

Is this who is gonna kill my child

[swift kraken]

[foggy coyote]

The WoL: =B

[open verge]

Joking about the squid and a second later we are sorry for his loss

[gaunt star]

still shocked about this tbh

[open verge]

Oh for sure

Was lit

[viscid monolith]

Feel bad for the kids

[subtle pasture]

Ya'know, loved the twist for Sapphire,

[gaunt star]

what twist

[open verge]

Same

Oh

Lmao

[viscid monolith]

Apparently Milisandra was 20. Saying she was 30 was a translation error.

[subtle pasture]

When they talk about Sapphire's pilot

[open verge]

Just do the shit already

[gaunt star]

wasnt really surprised

[viscid monolith]

Still don't feel bad for Gaius.

[swift kraken]

i have to do seat again for the wallpaper

[open verge]

Gaius gotta hold that shot

[gaunt star]

i just want all of them except Allie to die

[open verge]

[severe brook]

I was wondering when they didn't outright show Rex piloting it

[subtle pasture]

Ricon was a good boi

[faint dagger]

does anyone have a gif of alisaie headdesking

[gaunt star]

also when Gaius said hes tired of any more deaths

and everyones like 'nanii'

[viscid monolith]

Especially after listening to Vald's backstory. It must be sweet retribution watching him grieve over the loss of his kids.

[subtle pasture]

--but like it was totally in character for Rex to immediately slam that Oversoul button so you think nothing of it

[open verge]

It’s not like gaius wasn’t responsible for the deaths of many

[gaunt star]

its for all of them tbh

they know they wont survive if they use Oversoul

[open verge]

Guy didn’t even try to fight with over soul

[viscid monolith]

It sounded like Milisandra didn't know.

[open verge]

But that’s because th e weapon wasn’t ready

[subtle pasture]

Well, Mili did do it as a last resort, and everyone else but Rex seemed smart enough to not try

[gaunt star]

apparently it was mentioned Ruby malfuctioned

[viscid monolith]

@open verge He used Oversoul immediately

[open verge]

I know

[gaunt star]

during the echo cutscene

[open verge]

It was because the weapon wasn’t ready

[subtle pasture]

But also that Rex explicitly slapped Oversoul bc he was a shoddy pilot

[viscid monolith]

Oh wait I misread your statement

[subtle pasture]

er, Ricon

[neat edge]

this mad lad just wanted to go out with a bang

[gaunt star]

or was it with alfonse and the annoying guy

was one of the two

[severe brook]

well that, and the Sapphire Weapon was almost nonfunctional without Oversoul

[subtle pasture]

Ricon didn't have the training, but he knew Oversoul would give him a chance

[viscid monolith]

I thought you meant he didn't use Oversoul

[open verge]

Ibis many of them are left?

[severe brook]

since it wasn't finished

[open verge]

The sapphire wasn’t ready

[gaunt star]

yeah it wasnt finished so they had to use oversoul

[severe brook]

3 of the pilots are left now

[open verge]

It couldn’t do basic options

[gaunt star]

least ricon said oversoul would make up for its malfuctions

[subtle pasture]

No Ricon used Oversoul bc he wasn't trained otherwise

[open verge]

So there is only 2 weapons left

[gaunt star]

it didnt tho

diamond and uhh

which one

forgot the other

[open verge]

Emerald

[gaunt star]

oh

[subtle pasture]

That was his stipulation to Rex, "I can't pilot it well, but I can Oversoul instead."

[open verge]

So 1 will survive right

Or maybe they find a way to stop them

Before

[gaunt star]

Allie is the one working on the weapons

if i dont get the ending wrong

so i doubt she will get into any of them

[subtle pasture]

iirc the dialogue implied she's Head of Magitek Development for the VIIth

so yeah she's

up there, with Alfonse

[gaunt star]

so its rex and alfonse

[severe brook]

so Rex will probably pilot Emerald then

[open verge]

She’s gonna stop Alfonso and they will both live

[severe brook]

Alfonse will almost certainly pilot Diamond

[subtle pasture]

I hope she endures whatever Varro does to her...

[open verge]

In front of those kids

What a weirdo man

[gaunt star]

i wonder what Allie and the milk boi did when the doors closed

[open verge]

He drinks milk!

[gaunt star]

not just ANY milk

[severe brook]

whatever he did to her, he probably did to those kids as well
the implications are pretty clear

[gaunt star]

a milk from a rare breed of cows

[subtle pasture]

Like I felt bad for Alfonse when a cup got chucked at his horn,

[open verge]

What is he doing with those kids

[gaunt star]

they had to capitalize on that

[neat edge]

discipline

[open verge]

Square enix please

[severe brook]

well

[subtle pasture]

They look like servants, since they help him don his armor

[gaunt star]

oh wait

diamond weapon might be used by the legatus

or w.e he is

[open verge]

Why would he use it

Think he wouldn’t tbh

[gaunt star]

or OR i would be down for a Gaius vs milk boi

[subtle pasture]

So far I think he thinks the Weapons are the work of Savages,

[gaunt star]

and we play as Gaius

[severe brook]

I almost hope Alfonse and Allie force Valens into the Diamond Weapon and use him to fuel its Oversoul

[gaunt star]

DO IT SE COWARDS

[severe brook]

that's my prediction for how this ends

[open verge]

I don’t think he cares about the weapons

[viscid monolith]

Both Ricon and Sapphire weren't combat ready

[subtle pasture]

I could see that, Alfonse tricks Varro into it

[gaunt star]

ricon must have been just a scientist probs

engineer w/e

[viscid monolith]

Ricon said he was the worst pilot. Rex mentioned that Sapphire isn't even ready for basic combat maneuvers.

[thin crypt]

emet in 5.3

[subtle pasture]

iirc his report from Gaius is he was mostly an engineer,

[gaunt star]

and that Oversoul would make up for it.

[open verge]

Activate OVERSOUUIUL

[subtle pasture]

wasn't strong, or smart, but could do maintenance work

[severe brook]

darkness come, break the shield of li-ight...

[gaunt star]

i dont like rex and his anger issues

can we choke him with our Mecha?

slice through the emerald weapon armor pull him out and splat!

[subtle pasture]

Oh, don't believe anyone's posteed Ricon's notes from the officer report,

[open verge]

Emerald weapon looks lame

[gaunt star]

AoT style

[open verge]

Hope the new design is sick

[severe brook]

i feel like the scene with ricon in this patch helped develop a bit more compared to his introduction

he's not just angry angry man anymore

[subtle pasture]

I had the impression from the first bit that Ricon was meek or a gentle giant,

and he sacrifices himself bc he knows he's not very good at fighting but wants his brother to live to fight another day

[open verge]

Tried to buy em time

That trial was sick

[subtle pasture]

Like he was just stalling for the Terncliff facility to be emptied, yeah

[open verge]

6.0 gonna have a lot of sick moments I can tell

The solo trials will probably be bankers

[subtle pasture]

Also it was,

far more forgiving than I expected

[open verge]

I died like

3 times

[severe brook]

i'm guessing they'll give Emerald Weapon arms compared to its original design

[open verge]

I hate clicking on shit

[severe brook]

like how they gave Sapphire Weapon actual fists/claws

[subtle pasture]

I, did not, despite accidentally eating a full magitek barrage shit while casting the aoe

[open verge]

I kept clicking the wrong skills

And I forgot to turn the shield off

[subtle pasture]

yeah I kept wasting my heal

[open verge]

I hated how easy it was to turn off the damage boost think

I kept activating and deactivating on accident

[subtle pasture]

Oh, yeah, and they explained how they got the Combat Data

Recording devices in the suits of Legatii as psuedo-soul crystals,

...kinda weird but okay

[open verge]

So who’s next?

Which legatus will be shown

[gaunt star]

legatus?

[severe brook]

I feel like it might be zenos since it seems to be going in order of the main Legatus for each expansion

[gaunt star]

theres only 2 of them atm

[severe brook]

for the Oversoul

[open verge]

Over soul

I worded that badly

[gaunt star]

rex probably

[subtle pasture]

Ya'know, for another thing,

[open verge]

Which legatus will he summon tho

[gaunt star]

Alfonse seems to be their leader or something

oh

that

[severe brook]

Rex will be the pilot almost certainly, the question is who will overwrite him

[subtle pasture]

the Garleans should know, Gaius survived

[gaunt star]

no idea

[subtle pasture]

due to those deevices in his suit, no?

Like, well before rn

[viscid monolith]

Oh ya. Why was Regula's helmet on the Sapphire Weapon?

[gaunt star]

people guessed the sapphire weapon but idk on what xd

[severe brook]

probably to make it better contain the Oversoul

[subtle pasture]

Sapphire is a fish, Hydrus means water snake

[severe brook]

so you don't have a giant naked Regula erupt out of the Sapphire Weapon

[subtle pasture]

also, predominantly blue color schemes,

[gaunt star]

emerald is wot

[subtle pasture]

Also Regula means "rule of" and I thought that was also connected to Rex, "King"

[severe brook]

so they made a design that naturally resonates with the Synthetic Auracite it contains

[gaunt star]

that was the twist i guess

[subtle pasture]

Also, yeah, the "organic core" didn't burst out this time

[open verge]

The sapphire trial was handled a lot better than four lords

[gaunt star]

but not a big one if i want all of them to die

[open verge]

Four lords ending was underwhelming as fuck

Just a big ass Kirin

[subtle pasture]

But how Ruby malfunctioned is Milisandia actually became Nael van Darnus, hence

in comparison, Sapphire never "speaks" as Regula, does it

[severe brook]

yes it does

the voice changes

and Sapphire remarks to the fake Regulas it summons as visages of its old body, or something along those lines

[heady shadow]

Milisandia could barely control ruby

[subtle pasture]

Yeah but the text still says it comes from "The Sapphire Weapon," so the process wasn't as drastic as Mili and Nael

[gaunt star]

yeah it summons 4 clones w/e

yeah cause they had worked on that issue already

[severe brook]

yeah it's definitely more contained, but Ricon's mind/spirit were probably overwritten by the synthesized Regula

[gaunt star]

but overall Sapphire was incomplete regardless

[subtle pasture]

Yeah, the Weapon itself was, but you can see the progress in the SAS

[gaunt star]

yea

[subtle pasture]

Which, will prob end up the scarier thing

[severe brook]

Emerald and Diamond may successfully have those upgrades

[subtle pasture]

We still think Baelsar data on Diamond?

[gaunt star]

next Weapon is at 4.5?

[subtle pasture]

...I got absolutely nothing for Emerald

[gaunt star]

5.5*

[open verge]

5.4

[gaunt star]

ah nice

[open verge]

No more story trials

[gaunt star]

next patch

[severe brook]

Baelsar is almost certainly the Diamond Weapon's Synthetic Auracite

[gaunt star]

inb4 Diamond Weapon we will be fighting with a Megazord controlled by 8 ppl

[severe brook]

I think Zenos is most likely for the Emerald Weapon, but I don't really like that idea. However, I'm not sure who else it would be

[heady shadow]

we will get the last(?) set of eden.

[open verge]

Imagine seeing your son die because of you while also dying because he turned into you

[severe brook]

Rex is probably going to fly in in Emerald Weapon and take out the G-Warrior in the hangar so we can't use it again

[gaunt star]

he will die doing it probs

[open verge]

Can’t wait for the pvp game where you are all in mechs

Would be pretty fun

[frozen spade]

the ex seems simple so far (we got up to tether baha's in add phase)

just combo'ing mechanics seems to be the theme

[subtle pasture]

Like who else do we know who would have these recording devices in their armors,

[zenith jolt]

@open verge You mean Rival Wings?

[subtle pasture]

like it's not exclusive to Legatii, right? High ranking officers could too

[open verge]

All

Not a few in mechs

All!

Was kinda hoping the mech had flying but baby steps

[swift kraken]

for anyone who wants it

[tough fern]

Soooooooo

Damn

Goooooooooooood

[open verge]

That’s just the dq final smash

[swift kraken]

extremely nice shot

[subtle pasture]

Resistance Officer's Reports: Name: The Sapphire Weapon
Warmachina developed by the VIIth Imperial Legion as a successor to the Ultima Weapon.
The second known case of the synthetic auracite system being used in open combat, employing the combat data of Regula van Hydrus, former legatus of the VIth Imperial Legion.
Evidence indicates that the warmachina was in an incomplete state, and Oversoul was used to mitigate mechanical deficiencies.
It was deployed off the coast of Werlyt and sent into battle with Garlond Ironworks' G-Warrior, piloted by [WoL]. It was then rendered inoperable but structurally intact, with only superficial damage sustained.

[swift kraken]

i went full pog? anime? when i saw it

[open verge]

Where you find that?

[tough fern]

Watching the party collectively losing their shit during that trial made the wipes worth it

[open verge]

Oh for sure

[severe brook]

huh

so the bulk of the Sapphire Weapon could be repaired

[open verge]

When he lb4 I pogged so hard

[swift kraken]

when we saw the emet snap

the whole chat went

YOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[open verge]

I was like YOO 4 LB CHARGES?

[tough fern]

I didn't lose my mind

Until Emet waved

I lost it

So hard

[swift kraken]

the stinky emet wave

[open verge]

that ATM

Was hard

I thought I was designed to lose

[swift kraken]

i choose to believe, despite any evidance

that

it wasnt emet but azem

[subtle pasture]

Resistance Officer's Reports: Name: Ricon
Pilot of the Sapphire Weapon. All other information regarding the subject was gained via verbal testimony of Gaius Baelsar.
Born and raised in Werlyt until his parents died in an epidemic, after which he was taken into the care of Gaius Baelsar in an imperial orphanage.
Though he lacked the physical prowess of his peers, his high degree of dexterity made him ideally suited to maintaining equipment and similar tasks.
Even after joining the military, he remained shy and withdrawn. However, on occasions where the safety of his friends was threatened, he would not hesitate to defend them.
He later replaced the designated pilot of the Sapphire Weapon, fellow orphan Rex, and was absorbed by the Weapon's core upon activating Oversoul.
Estimated age at time of death: 17 years old.

It's the uhhh,

[swift kraken]

and emet got the motions from azem

this is my headcanon. you will not stop me

[open verge]

Emet selch just wanted to end elidibus suffering

Lost cause

[subtle pasture]

Resistance Officer reports, right by the Warmachina Fanatic in the Lochs

[heady shadow]

emet finger snap got me

[stuck yarrow]

So sapphire weapon was Regula

[heady shadow]

the wave mde me type bastard in chat

[subtle pasture]

Estimated age at time of death: 17 years old.

[tough fern]

I didn't recognize the snap lol

[open verge]

Me neither

[tough fern]

I was like huh

[open verge]

I knew someone snapped

[swift kraken]

the emet snap is iconic

[heady shadow]

he was the only one who did it

[open verge]

But I couldn’t remember

[tough fern]

Is this our boi from Amaurot?

[heady shadow]

for Ct ldy

[subtle pasture]

First off, Ricon was 7 when he lost his parents, Mili was 10 (given that the Sorrow was about 10 years ago)

Second, ow.

[open verge]

Can you go back terncliff?

[viscid monolith]

Yes

[open verge]

Nice

Place looks really sick

Reminds of of that one zone

That lets you go to the umbral isles

[tough fern]

that ATM
@open verge

Party was thoroughly confused at the wipe

[subtle pasture]

Aleport? I was reminded of Moraby's

[tough fern]

I had to tell them that we all had to pass it

[open verge]

It reminds of when you first port in

Someone in chat was like

Was that emet

And I just told them go with it

Then I saw lb4

And freaked out idek why

[subtle pasture]

why does this feel like,

Cid being petty again

"We could move it out of the water while we study it,"

"But then Gaius couldn't watch."

[open verge]

Something about him using a game mechanic and it being stronger than yours

Its so sick

[viscid monolith]

I wonder what the primals the weapons are absorbing looked like

[open verge]

6.0 lb4?

[tough fern]

I still have Nier and Gundam Wing to do

[swift kraken]

what if?

[tough fern]

[open verge]

Ohh nier is so good

[swift kraken]

now with a 10 second lockout

[subtle pasture]

Oh, yeah, and they speculate Sapphire might have absorbed an aquatic eikon but,

[open verge]

My favorite 24 man

[swift kraken]

[subtle pasture]

I don't think, Sapphire saw battle yet??

It must have, given its pilot

[open verge]

I don’t really understand how they made

[viscid monolith]

I assume they mean battle post primal absorption

[open verge]

Are they already primal capable

[tough fern]

I can't wait to hear the music for Puppets bunker;

[viscid monolith]

And were like "We don't even know what the weapon does anymore"

[subtle pasture]

Oh yeah, like this time they compensated for how the primal Ruby ate had upset Mili's control?

[frozen spade]

music slapping in puppets

[severe brook]

there was a discussion earlier about Ruby having maybe absorbed an Elephant Primal

[subtle pasture]

iirc the implication was a humanoid one,

for why it's, so

fleshy lookin'

[viscid monolith]

They brought up Ruby having tough armour

[severe brook]

and i'm guessing Sapphire absorbed a kraken or sea serpent primal

[subtle pasture]

A, dare I say, leviathan?

[severe brook]

i could see the tough armor, long neck, and big shoulder pads alluding to a humanoid elephant

[subtle pasture]

...Leviathan vs a leviathan

[severe brook]

maybe Leviathan

i actually sketched an idea of the elephant primal and pre-absorption Ruby Weapon for fun

[subtle pasture]

A "leviathan" is just a big ass mysterious sea creature after all

[open verge]

So sick

Yyyy

[subtle pasture]

Is the Terncliff music a

[thin crypt]

i need to fix it

[subtle pasture]

v soft piano medley of Ultima

[frozen spade]

I wonder has anyone able to see what armor those warrior of light summoned in the fight wear?

[subtle pasture]

omfg there's a TT NPC in Terncliff

is it

[heady shadow]

Oh i noticed something before the trial, when we activted our cyrstal thing.
Our ''ascian'' glyph was on the floor.

[subtle pasture]

A Former Imperial

I noticed the ring on the throne too, after

[open verge]

I didn’t notice terncliff had more moaning

A lot of the zone themes have moans!

[frozen spade]

sokan loves to moan confirmed

[open verge]

Amh areng il mheg terncliff

[pastel coyote]

As expected Unuk mourn Elidibus

[subtle pasture]

I don't recognize the melody in Terncliff's BGM but what, is it

is it a town theme from 7 or

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcEGFAaSpzI

[open verge]

My favorite part of the msq

Is when all the scions are in th e crystal tower

And thancred sounds louder then everyone

[polar star]

I'm not sure what i expected, but the ARR skyboxes are very low

[frozen spade]

they would have to redo all the ARR for higher skyboxes

[polar star]

True

[frozen spade]

it works for what they can do with it

[crimson pollen]

Yeah, we better be thankful for what we already got, lol

[wet crown]

Brain fart : the first raid boss is based on Zero's flower. Not just the ring attack.

[crimson pollen]

at least gonna make sightseening logs in ARR 12515% better I imagine

[wet crown]

[unique verge]

The ones in cities are still gonna be shit

[frozen spade]

i hope they are able to merge the ARR/HW cities states into one area

[polar star]

Eulmore sightseeing log is surprisingly easy

[frozen spade]

like SH and ShB areas are all one zone

[polar star]

I think combined city states could be too large

would ultimately make loading times longer

[neat edge]

arr city states need lots of work

[crimson pollen]

I think one game I remember that was like that, you could walk whole map (tho it wold take a couple of hours or something) was Lineage 2

[neat edge]

since they're kinda built on the old ones

[frozen spade]

not the whole area for ARR

im just taking about the city states like upper and lower into one limsa

as an example

[neat edge]

they still have the long corridors

[unique verge]

Ehhh

Leave Limsa split

[crimson pollen]

Bring 10th shard and main hub to be called "Zanarkand" omg, the feels

[unique verge]

Dont make the people doing their crafting quests have to listen to the limsa thot shout chat

[polar star]

Holy shit Rowena's Representative is great

[crimson pollen]

damn, that magic hq craft button is still the most op thing added, lol

just hq new primal gear for no reason at all

[frozen spade]

just mute shout chat

[polar star]

And I think the augmented stuff from the Representative costs as much as normal gear

So no need for unaugmented Ironworks now

[frozen spade]

correct

[subtle pasture]

Oh yeah, and, it was fairly random, but I liked how uhhh,

[frozen spade]

a good change bc upgrading gear in ARR was a headache

[subtle pasture]

Arkeil? Arkil?

Was the kid from the ShB ending

[crimson pollen]

yeah, it was really unnecessarily bloated

exchange tomes, exchanges tome for token, etc...

[polar star]

You don't need the unaugmented gear to buy the augmented right?

[subtle pasture]

technically not the specific piece, but you turn in unauged pieces for tokens to buy the augmented

...unless they changed the augmented crafted systerm

[polar star]

ah ok

Quick question, do you guys try to organise your hotbars similarly to other classes?

because my tank cross hotbars are basically the same

[crimson pollen]

Only if they are similar

[subtle pasture]

I sorta do, all my ST and aoe heals are lined up over the three

[crimson pollen]

I put the similar skills of my tanks in same position, for example

[subtle pasture]

and tank bars arranged for the eqv CDs on the same spot

[crimson pollen]

yeah, many tank skills are same, just with different aesthetics and animations

[polar star]

My main combo is always in the same spot

For dps i try putting OGCDs on certain slots

[empty moss]

omg

the G-warrior

[radiant badger]

Tanks it works.
Healers it mostly works.
DPS are all busy doing their own shit so it takes some messing around.

[empty moss]

Cid is unhinged

[radiant badger]

Especially melee.

ESPECIALLY DRG with its 4-button rotations

Where as all the other melee use 3

[frozen spade]

4 buttons? its like a 6-7 combo

mb its a 5 step rotation

[radiant badger]

I'm talking just the basic 1-2-3

[polar star]

NIN is pretty annoying because you have 3 mudras amd then a button to use Ninjutsu

[radiant badger]

DRG has two, which is same as MNK but DRG has 4 buttons on them UNLIKE mnk

And it's a bitch to set up on an MMO mouse

NIN was mostly easy tbh

[crimson pollen]

BLM is super annoying as when u unsynch it changes it all for 50/60/70 etc..

[polar star]

Also MNK has a shit load of GCD buttons

[radiant badger]

Point is, tank and healer bars are mostly interchangeable

DPS all do their own shit

[polar star]

My favorite thing about flying in arr

is i can do my job quests and hunting logs at the speed of light

Compared to how long they used to be

[frozen spade]

flying just a good QoL to ARR zones

[thin crypt]

enjoy https://i.imgur.com/K206hgy.mp4

[frozen spade]

oh in 60fps this time

[thin crypt]

yea had to fix it

[frozen spade]

nice

Everytime I see that

[polar star]

I'm also really satisfied with the way you unlock it

[frozen spade]

it reminds me of him being in Smash bros doing his smash ball ultimate

[polar star]

I thought it would be tedious as fuck like Zodiac fate farming

[glacial turret]

Is that cecil, palom porom and rydia

[open verge]

That’s what I thought

[frozen spade]

smh SE ripped off nintendo

same

[heady shadow]

apparently someone pointed out the first group you fight in the dungeon is the og ff1 job crew.

[open verge]

Se ripped off Nintendo final smash of a se character

Ye I noticed

The red hair

[heady shadow]

.. dragon quest is SE though?

[frozen spade]

se showing off to nintendo they can make it in smash

[open verge]

@frozen spade that’s what I said

Fuck

Wrong guy

Screen

[heady shadow]

screen?

[open verge]

😭

Didn’t know it was scree

[heady shadow]

the name comorl probably mkes it hard to notice theres no N

xD

[open verge]

I knew this guy was spectral but the other jobs I didn’t know

Is the wol only in dissidia?

[viscid monolith]

In that costume yes

[open verge]

Neat

I think my tank was in the warrior of light gear so it was perfect

Maybe it was a different player

[radiant badger]

Yeah the WoL outfit currently used as THE Warrior of Light in FF originated in Dissidia.

[neat edge]

yeah i don't see this rn, its all in my mind

[wet crown]

The design originated far earlier than Dissidia. Simply adopted by it

[viscid monolith]

Oh ya it was in concept art from waaaay back wasn't it?m

By Amano(?)

[wet crown]

Yes.

[glad maple]

Finally I beat puppet bunker

Puff I really thought I was gonna fight adam:/

[wet crown]

I only realized it was the alien ship right before the compound

[glad maple]

Wait so 2P was one of the aliens?

[rain badger]

for new extreme

is it ONLY movement

that messes up the fire mechanic

[wet crown]

I didn't read the data files from the bunker yet. But she seems to be a 2B model that was hijjacked by the machine lifeforms

[rain badger]

or is it attacking / casting as well

[severe brook]

the P-Series Androids were built by the Machines to infiltrate the Androids

[glad maple]

Ohhhh

[severe brook]

but then they might have also become the Red Eye Legion from Nier 1 and Drakengard, considering the Compound

[wet crown]

Yeah, they made us notice the red eyes

[glad maple]

i really thought the compound was gonna give birth to Adam and Eve

[wet crown]

So 9S didn't go nuts the first time

[glad maple]

I was like here he comes and then

[wet crown]

[glad maple]

NothingT_T

[wet crown]

I also expected them when I realized the alien ship

but this was so much cooler

[glad maple]

So the alien ship is there and yorha is there too

The base

Crashed together?

[wet crown]

The base crashed on top of the alien ship

[glad maple]

Is this an after story of nier?

Where my bitch A2 at?

[wet crown]

The base crashing on top of the alien ship seems like a coincidence

or the P-models made that happen

[severe brook]

i wouldn't be surprised if the Bunker we see is a replica built to be the P-Series' base

[wet crown]

it's a very faithful copy then though

[severe brook]

well so are the P-Series

oh wait 2B's room is in it isn't it

[wet crown]

yes

[severe brook]

so okay then it probably is the original Bunker

well

no it'd have to be a purposeful replica

[wet crown]

that's up to mystery

[severe brook]

the original bunker probably burned up in reentry even if any pieces weren't destroyed in the explosion

[wet crown]

Sigh. Gonna log in quickly just to read the data files

[radiant badger]

I already read the data files.