people will complain if they add a 4th healer and they will do the same if they dont
#retired-patch-6-3-discussion
bold condor
maybe
peak rune
Ffs
prisma vine
point is ast is time mage, and COVERED geomancy in their story
thus ast took both off the table
peak rune
But it only makes sense that we get a healer next when we already got a dps and a tank previously
bold condor
I don't mind, I'm just saying Geomancer can absolutely coexist with Astrologian.
gaunt star
doesnt geomancer draw power from the earth while ast the stars?
bold condor
The power is drawn from the planet and we see a lot of creative Geomancy that looks nothing like AST in the Swallow's Compass and Wreath of Snakes.
bold condor
It's feng shui-based.
sterile galleon
6.0...
gaunt star
u already saw them Nate
It can coexist with AST, I just feel they're combining the two in the AST job story
shell merlin
new outfits? we did?
sterile galleon
Where will we go? Ilsabard? Dalmasca? Both?
bold condor
I mean maybe
gaunt star
they wear them
winter grove
SCH and SMN prove that AST isnt stopping GEO and Time Mage.
They can co-exist.
gaunt star
in the end of 5.3
bold condor
Is literally
peak rune
Isn't Geo a crossover between AST and WHM?
bold condor
A combination of Black Mage and White Mage.
shell merlin
those outfits are lame
sterile galleon
-Also
bold condor
So like
shell merlin
we talkin when they get a new class
sterile galleon
Male Viera and female Hrothgar ftw, 6.0 plis
gaunt star
WHM with a Bow
I can't wait to see OUR new outfit
oh god not the missing genders again
Tatary pls
hollow vigil
Screw it, pictomancer, let me heal you with a big paintbrush
peak rune
Melora what
gaunt star
cease ur existence spammer
winter grove
@hollow vigil YES
bold condor
Pictomancer. You know, Relm Arrowny from FF6.
gaunt star
add necromancer caster thanks
slender merlin
The missing genders won't happen, too much effort for too little return imo
peak rune
^
bold condor
They'll happen eventually when time permits.
gaunt star
yeah i don't see it happening yet
winter grove
We are VERY basic Pictomancers in that one raid
gaunt star
imo its more beneficial to focus on improving the character creator than new genders which ppl will hate
bold condor
But if they do it, don't expect a new race ever again.
shell merlin
@slender merlin not much effort hwen they use elezen model and whatever model
I would like some updates to our current models though yes
gaunt star
didnt they say they wanna stop making new races? xd
slender merlin
Considering that they still haven't given viera all the hairstyles or given them hats, I can't see it
shell merlin
@gaunt star new races
bold condor
They did say that, yep.
gaunt star
yes that takes work too nate
bold condor
Technically the same amount of work.
gaunt star
the gear and all has to be done manually
for them too
I could see them adding the genders eventually i guess
and it takes a lot of time
but it's probs not high priority
shell merlin
I would like some updated models is all
gaunt star
it wouldn't be that hyped
shell merlin
maybe more faces
gaunt star
when they could be doing something that affects everyone aka improving character creator.
which means more people will fantasia
slender merlin
Or engine overhaul for the next gen launch
bold condor
kek
gaunt star
than ugly male bunnies ppl saw in a CONCEPT art and female buff cats from XI or w.e they came from
engine overhaul never ever
bold condor
that's probably not gonna happen
winter grove
For the new genders you would likely lose a whole new job.
slender merlin
Eh they could just stick in some middleware like BDO did and call it an overhaul
gaunt star
but hey if PSO2 can do it maybe XIV can too
crystal mural
hell i'm glad they bother with some quality of life things to begin with
gaunt star
NGS is a brand new game set in PSO2s universe
teal geyser
than ugly male bunnies ppl saw in a CONCEPT art and female buff cats from XI or w.e they came from
Ugly?
Wtf?
winter grove
@gaunt star Fem Hrothgar literally come from FFX, same as the males.
teal geyser
Sathona just has shit tastes and only cares about them self
gaunt star
XIV was 1.0 
ah glorious game
teal geyser
Just ignore em
iron scaffold
speacking about pridiction
gaunt star
oh shut it
frozen spade
the gauntlet is A tier dungeon.
crystal mural
it was so fun
gaunt star
we dont even know if that was Emet xDD
peak rune
By the way who was that little kid
unreal wadi
frozen spade
the nier raid was so fucking fun and the gauntlet and great.
radiant ice
Make xiv-3 then
peak rune
I haven't played 5.3 yet but it's a little miqote kid
royal basin
I looost it at that scene
frozen spade
So I got sapphire and the msq trial to do
gaunt star
its just a kid
royal basin
literally cried harder for Ardbert and Seto than anything else ngl
peak rune
Is she part of a MSQ or Sapphire Weapon questline?
frozen spade
MSQ
gaunt star
she has no importance past the first few quests
shell merlin
@peak rune ISNT SHE CUTE?
hollow vigil
I sobbed, was already emotionally drained lmao
gaunt star
for now atleast
peak rune
Yeah her
shell merlin
frozen spade
my head was cut off in that cutscene. FTW too tall
peak rune
So the Sapphire Weapon wasn't a trial?
gaunt star
no
forest magnet
nope
frozen spade
its a solo fight
forest magnet
its fun as fuck though
gaunt star
it was a mecha vs mecha fight
hollow vigil
Ohhhh
bold condor
Yep
shell merlin
will we need to do Sorrow Of Werlyt Questline
winter grove
Can we have more mech fights SE? ;-;
forest magnet
maaan i'm gonna be so sad when our G-Weapon gets destroyed in 5.4 and we have to go back to doing it the old fashioned way 😭
bold condor
4.3 did have a dungeon but that's it.
teal geyser
the part gaius said hes tired of deaths and everyone was like 'nani'
Everyone laughs
crystal mural
It was never his intention after all
hollow vigil
Anyone tried Ex fight yet?
gaunt star
cali u ok fam?
shell merlin
do we need to do Sorrow Of Werlyt Questline or is it a sidequest not needed for next stuff
much like crystal tower quests
teal geyser
SucH DeVSaTiOn
shell merlin
which I did late
gaunt star
..
forest magnet
@hollow vigil apparently there's a really vague mechanic which is why there's no guides up yet
winter grove
@forest magnet Honestly I was shocked it survived this patch!
forest magnet
@winter grove better get my gposes in before it gets destroyed
winter grove
Facts.
teal geyser
Also yeah this MSQ has made me realise how badly I want a permanent kneel emote
forest magnet
"Are you done posing yet?"
"NO IM NOT GAME GIVE ME FIVE MORE MINUTES STOP ASKING"
winter grove
"But are you done now?"
"WHO IS ASKING THIS!? i'LL PUNT YOU!"
teal geyser
"Are you done posing yet?"
Are ya winning son?
forest magnet
So, uh, the WoLs that got summoned and we dispatched them....are they dead now?
winter grove
If the G-Warrior can absorb primals we may have just found a way to fix the Source.
forest magnet
If so that could be uber bad
If we just killed everyone in all the shards who had echo
crystal mural
From what I thought was said is that fragments of their souls were summoned, so not full on WoLs
bold condor
They're fine.
forest magnet
We still destroyed a part of their soul
runic atlas
Awww fuck, thanks fuck, and fuck that guy.
bold condor
It'll grow back.
crystal mural
so they may be missing a small bit of aether
forest magnet
that's got to be damaging in some capacity right?
runic atlas
That’s literally my reaction at the end
bold condor
forest magnet
"just a flesh soul wound, have at ye!"
crystal mural
but we've seen wol recuperate from worse
winter grove
"It will be fine"
It was not fine
forest magnet
the only soul damage we've gotten was magicked away by rejoining with ardbert
runic atlas
Almost cried, jfc
crystal mural
i sobbed all the way through, especially seeing all my good bois in the first duty
hollow vigil
It was worth the 6 month wait
runic atlas
Mate, the goodbyes from the Scions...then seeing my main dude at the end...i almost bawled.
crystal mural
ryne's tears
forest magnet
now to wait 6 more months -_-
crystal mural
i cri
rain oasis
It wasn't worth 6 months wait tbh.
shell merlin
it totally was
runic atlas
Worth waiting. Also, fuck that fucking guy, I was like, as soon he started dancing around, I fucking knew who it was gonna be, and hoped that I was wrong
Fuck
rain oasis
I mean, it was really emotional and all
shell merlin
@rain oasis but then again it would of been sooner if not for covid
rain oasis
and I cried on a few scenes
forest magnet
we waited 6 months for 5.0 and that was much more content lol
but this is cuz corona and all that so i give them a pass
shell merlin
yah but you guys are forgetting what happened the past 6 months
so yes we pass them
crystal mural
imagine looking at the news
drowsy belfry
Nah, 5.4'll be out in November
hollow vigil
Plus we've got the new relics soon so that'll keep us busy
shell merlin
we got baby patches to come still
prisma vine
they're back on track it won't stay 6 months
shell merlin
and I gotta do the new relic missions oh god
slender merlin
The bit with Adbert and Seto. Stop cutting onions SE
rain oasis
Well, story wise I love the game
shell merlin
my whole party was freaking out 
crystal mural
shit was lit
rain oasis
but after trying to get into it, savage stuff wise, as there was nothing else to do
I noticed how it is pretty mechanically limited
and bland
still, top notch story.
slender merlin
I knew it was Emet from the finger snap, but nobody else in my party said anything so I just cheered to myself
rain oasis
and ost.
prisma vine
what savage stuff
rain oasis
Eden savage stuff
prisma vine
idk go beat ultimate then
shell merlin
i havent done savage yet
compact marlin
I was sxreaming that it was emet from thr snap too
shell merlin
yes
shell merlin
ima be doing the relic stuff and then wait on the ishguard to overprice and sell new items
🙂
compact marlin
Loooo
forest magnet
so we're looking at early/mid december for 4.4?
slender merlin
The mannerisms were spot on, impossible not to know it's him
rain oasis
Yeah
prisma vine
ye
forest magnet
it's intentional
hollow vigil
Definitely
runic atlas
Late November to early December, correct
prisma vine
asahi ded
shell merlin
what about asahi?
forest magnet
rommy is stubbornly believes it's Azem though
shell merlin
he ded dude
scenic sun
Oh shit 2B! also where did 9S go after The Copied Factory, shouldn't he had been there?
slender merlin
Stupid small eyebrow fool
rain oasis
I know he ded
hollow vigil
Soon as I saw that shit eating grin
rain oasis
but his face is enough to make me rage
shell merlin
lmao
winter grove
Also the "guest" in your inn room after the end of MSQs
runic atlas
Wait, what guest
wind cedar
how many archives there is in new alliance raid after it's done? I found 10 so far
rain oasis
I knew it was that motherf
shell merlin
what
winter grove
@runic atlas Check your window.
runic atlas
I’ll check it out shortly
rain oasis
is there a shoebill there?
lime briar
how many archives there is in new alliance raid after it's done? I found 10 so far
I've found 11
shell merlin
which inn?
winter grove
@rain oasis Bingo
shell merlin
all inns?
winter grove
No, Crystarium
runic atlas
Oh. NEVERMIND, DONT give a fuck about shoebill
shell merlin
oh
winter grove
/cry
obsidian smelt
Hildabrand lives!
slender merlin
There's someone in the inn room at the end of 5.3? I just logged out because running the game is literally making my PC hotter than the sun and don't want to boot it up again
rain oasis
Limit ur FPS @slender merlin
runic atlas
Just a shoebill, apparently
winter grove
@slender merlin Shoebill is hanging out at window
rain oasis
Heh
sterile galleon
It was worth the wait, to be sure
rain oasis
Once you venture to Amaurot with the scions
there's also a shoebill hidden
in the cave
slender merlin
i did, it doesn't help, it's like 90% humidity here and 30c
sly bluff
Did WoL and co ever eat Runar's soup or is it going cold?
winter grove
@rain oasis "How did this get under the sea though?" Haha
sterile galleon
Apparently WoW decided to push their pre-patch to the test servers today
rain oasis
fast pulsar
Seeing G'raha's ears perk up makes me 😩😩😩😩😩
sterile galleon
I can't imagine why they chose today in particular
winter grove
TOTALLY A COINCIDENCE
slender merlin
Trying to steal some of FFXIV's thunder
sterile galleon
I honestly didn't even know until I was just about done with the MSQ
hollow vigil
Bless them, they're trying
rain oasis
well
it wasn't that much of a increase tbh
specially considering a lot of f2p new players inc
slender merlin
Just Steam figures though?
rain oasis
idk, I feel like it should be higher
slender merlin
Lot of console/SE account people too
I don't run it on Steam because I don't want people to see how much I'm nolifing the game 
wind cedar
I've found 11
oh well, guess gotta have one more run there to look for it then
red talon
Where do I go about unlocking that secret trial?
slender merlin
My guess would be the minstrel guy in Crystarium
rain oasis
Ya, it's on minstrel
red talon
well, that's for EX trials, but the patch apparently has another one
rain oasis
obsidian smelt
But still. Runar stole y’shtola from me.....and yet I don’t feel upset about it....why?
drowsy belfry
There isn't a 2nd trial
rain oasis
and his trial unlocking dialogue was kino
really nice.
Gunar is but a child, Fenris
crystal mural
a child in a man's body
slender merlin
Y'shtola's brutal with her putdowns even when she isn't intending it
hollow vigil
Y'shtola don't need know man weighing her down
winter grove
Technically nothing is stopping us from teaching the others to world hop like us. Might just take a while.
crystal mural
y'sh already vowed to find a way
rain oasis
Yeah, I doubt there's a male in the universe that could make Y'shtola even blush
slender merlin
Especially G'raha
hollow vigil
Butt's 
frozen spade
okay just did the MSQ trial
obsidian smelt
G’raha is going to have a lot of wol booty now. XD
soft maple
They're getting so much better
rain oasis
Did you guys showed the exarch Minion to Graha?
soft maple
better animations
slender merlin
Yeah
hollow vigil
Npcs crying!
winter grove
I love how they did it for both ShB endings.
5.0 Shows G'raha his minion: I hate this
5.3 Shows G'raha his new minion: I still hate this
slender merlin
WoL'raha Nunh should happen
frozen spade
yeah that fight uses so many LB's back to back
hollow vigil
Nobody needs that many bars of LB 😂
frozen spade
like calm the fuck down
crystal mural
yeah damn
frozen spade
likes melee's LB1 on 4 people.
then range LB2 on two people
then caster LB3 on 4 people
hollow vigil
Was fun to heal tho
soft maple
I really wanna do ex man
eff it, time to bug the shit out of my fc
"Guuuuuuyssssss. Wanna see more cool stuff...? huehuehuehuehue"
scenic sun
why didn't anyone say the first boss has drakengard mechs
restive robin
dude the warrior of light theme is so good
crystal mural
waitin for the scroll to hit the mp
restive robin
disagree with me I dare you
frozen spade
imma see how awesome sapphire weapon is. so far 3/3 in awesomeness content
hollow vigil
winter grove
I still think the ShB trailer and now OldWoL are hinting at job skill switching mid fight.
restive robin
AAAAAAA
soft maple
saved
restive robin
gimme that gif
teal geyser
I still think the ShB trailer and now OldWoL are hinting at job skill switching mid fight.
Yeah no
Imagine the balancing of that
restive robin
Yeah I know
soft maple
meanie
teal geyser
You can dream
winter grove
I mean you are not wrong. But this is TWO pieces of speculationevidence!
teal geyser
I wouldn't call them evidence when they are so flimsy
frozen spade
So Crossclass 2.0 where we mix WAR and DRK to get breseker like the in the gauntlet?
teal geyser
Also I'm not sure what about the Old WoL says anything about this
winter grove
Thats why I preficed with speculation
frozen spade
SCH + BLM = ink mage
slender merlin
teal geyser
Um
teal geyser
Weird way to say Summoner @frozen spade
frozen spade
drowsy belfry
GLOWY BRUSH LET'S GOOOO
winter grove
BLM has a tiny brush? XD
winter grove
Always casters!
teal geyser
G'raha has a tiny ||got you||
ashen pawn
Emet Selch : Makes Empires to create Calamities
FFXIV Heroes : Use Allag's artifacts to fuck up all plans for further calamities
drowsy belfry
Cal 
swift kraken
ashen pawn
I swear everything Emet did in Allag era basically blew up in the Ascians' faces
wraith arrow
Graha has a tiny || ||
teal geyser
Except the calamity @ashen pawn
ashen pawn
Yes but the end result is
teal geyser
And at least G'raha having the royal eye stopped the giant demon ending the world
But yes you're right
ACTUALLY
ashen pawn
Omega prevented a Shinryu Calamity
teal geyser
NO
ashen pawn
Crystal Tower prevented Black Rose
frozen spade
giant demon you say? Next trial fight?
slender merlin
Maybe Emet planned it all along 🤔
teal geyser
A) Allagans didn't build Omega
B) really it's their fault for making the summoning of Alexander possible
ashen pawn
Crystal Tower turned out to be an Ascian mouse trap
teal geyser
Otherwise Allagan stuff would have just been a positive
next quarry
Omega is from another dimension
wraith arrow
*Planet
winter grove
@next quarry /Planet
wraith arrow
Ffs watch the cutscenes Aza
ashen pawn
Yes but technically it was findable and "controllable" through allag ruins
wraith arrow
Smh
next quarry
Either way he found his way to dragonstar, no?
teal geyser
We don't know if it was another dimension or just another planet
ashen pawn
(Turns out can't control Omega but heh)
teal geyser
We just know they fought with Dragonstar
frozen spade
Dragonstar DRG weapon
winter grove
"Omega stop Shinryu"
Omega: "DO I SMELL A FU*KING DRAGON?!"
ashen pawn
But no Crystal Tower, Ascians win
ashen pawn
ashen pawn
Also
wraith arrow
ashen pawn
Is the implication that when he made Amaurot, Emet Selch planned for Hythlo to give the fragments to WoL in case of his death, all so that his own shade could be summoned if needed to counter Elidibus?
winter grove
@ashen pawn The source being nigh destroyed would have ruined their plans
ashen pawn
Doing that as a kind of "If the WoL defeats me, then they might be worthy and deserves to be helped in case Elidibus pulls a cheesy tactic"?
unreal wadi
I was wondering
ashen pawn
Or were the fragments unrelated to the illusion and the Hythlo shade just happened to be there and independent enough
unreal wadi
about the weapons of the first
timid solstice
Finally I can jump in here
unreal wadi
but no
timid solstice
I finished the MSQ
ashen pawn
And it summoned an Emet Shade through the residual memories
unreal wadi
Thancred, Y'shtola & Urianger want to be their First's class hahaha
so I guess Thancred's a perm GNB
timid solstice
The ending made me laugh
winter grove
Or maybe it was the actual Emet
timid solstice
Uwuanger pose
ashen pawn
Guessed it when I saw Thancred had his ShB face in bed
unreal wadi
yeah hahaha
faint dagger
I'm just glad thancred doesn't look edgy anymore
unreal wadi
That pose
slender merlin
It's likely Emet didn't like what Elidibus had become too
quasi zodiac
hollow vigil
quasi zodiac
ashen pawn
So he did that as a contingency to save Elidibus?
faint dagger
Also - is crime and punishment the last nier quest for now?
gaunt star
in the end even Elidibus didnt like what he became xd
quasi zodiac
in the pose
ashen pawn
Feels ironical that Emet felt the same about Elidibus as Hythlo felt about Emet
timid solstice
Oh so I was totally right in my guess that we would he fightinf Elidibus
frozen spade
@quasi zodiac (from that vid)
WOL doing their smash ball attack on the party
white rapids
Is there a crafting meld BiS somewhere?
timid solstice
But I didn't expect him in FF1 WoL form
ashen pawn
The scene of Emet walking through Amaurot could be applied to Elidibus with a narration from Emet
and it'd make perfect sense
Also FF1 WoL made me laugh since he's a collab event in WotV
slender merlin
Even if they had succeeded they'd all have ended up tempered by Zodiark
timid solstice
Oh also when Emet showed up in trial
unreal wadi
||Of course the fucking Ascian takes over the most hated guy||
polar star
I'm on 3rd boss of PB, this is actually really fun
faint dagger
asahi is dead asf. he got bodynapped by damndaniel
quasi zodiac
Asahi is dead
heady shadow
so I somewht finished.
quasi zodiac
its just a body
heady shadow
shit man...
slender merlin
I knew it was him as soon as he spoke, and I was like "Nah you're supposed to be dead ffs."
heady shadow
we owe Emet now xD
hollow vigil
Nobody's really dead
heady shadow
or rather....
unreal wadi
||And I don't like it||
timid solstice
Is this Naruto all over again
ashen pawn
Asahi is undead FOR MONEY dear boy
timid solstice
Zenos stabbed the coin in half
It's a clear sign that he's gonna betray Fandaniel
slender merlin
I honestly wanted Zenos to cut Ascianhi in half
winter grove
Lol like he was ever working with him
slender merlin
And I don't like Zenos either
faint dagger
i mean varis shot emet for being a little tit
hollow vigil
Zenos just wants to nap
slender merlin
Zenos is a shit villain, why is he alive and Emet isn't? 
winter grove
Zenos just takes after his grandpa a bit too much
quasi zodiac
hollow vigil
😂
timid solstice
SB sacrificed character and story for game mechanics
winter grove
SB had its moments
teal geyser
^
slender merlin
None of which involved Zenos
teal geyser
I think you are being hyperbolic Bard
timid solstice
I am
But I say this in half truth
Like I really liked fights in SB
Story not as much
winter grove
No, but Yotsuyu was pretty well done.
teal geyser
It wasn't for mechanic reasons. It was because they wanted to do an entire continent and country
slender merlin
Villains are at their best when they're relatable and charismatic, two things Zenos is not
echo orbit
timid solstice
Varis > Zenos
crystal mural
zenos probably sees some use in him
timid solstice
Varis shot his grandpa
crystal mural
for bringing in WoL
timid solstice
Already better than Zenos
royal basin
Idk I feel like Zenos is very your mileage may vary some people love him some people just don't find him to their taste
slender merlin
He's basically just a horror film bad guy slow walking towards you with zero emotion
teal geyser
Zenos is relatable. He's your standard Dark Souls lover
strong dew
Fanny is hilarious.
winter grove
Zenos just wants to get close enough to Zodiark long enough to try to steal him.
crystal mural
i enjoy him, but i can see why he make people salty
frozen spade
Is zenos a murderhobo?
timid solstice
Yes
slender merlin
He's basically Michael Myers
strong dew
I hope he ends up being a proper threat tho.
royal basin
I mean, that's kinda the point tho? Zenos' brain is entirely fucked and has been since he was a kid
strong dew
Zenos is a sociopath
timid solstice
So lorewise unsundered ascians are the strongest right
winter grove
Unyone unsundered is very powerful
crystal mural
man was beat to heck and back as a kid for the sake of training
gaunt star
lahabrea was incredibly weakened due to constantly changing bodies
timid solstice
So it is correct to assume that Fandaniel is just gonna be sacrificed as a pawn
royal basin
also been having vivid apocalypse nightmares his entire life
gaunt star
we dont know
timid solstice
I hope he does
gaunt star
Fandaniel could be also using Zenos 
timid solstice
He took his face ya know
slender merlin
I recall that the sundered ascians can be rejoined, but I don't think it puts them on the same level
frozen spade
or zenos doesn't care and just want to fight the WoL
gaunt star
Zenos only cares for a fight with the WoL
royal basin
Zenos is gonna go do the one thing in the goddamn world that gives him that good good dopamine
timid solstice
Good ol' primal drug
crystal mural
zenos would only accept death at the hand of WoL or something stronger, that's his only satisfaction
timid solstice
Once starts it cant be stopped
pastel dock
The problem with Zenos is that we already beat the shit out of him once, and per Elidibus we’re canonically stronger than before, so it’s hard to take him as a credible threat
royal basin
That's why he's seeking out Zodiark tho isn't it
slender merlin
Zenos is also stronger too, but still boring
gaunt star
uh
frozen spade
we kicked his ass, then he did suicide. then came back.
gaunt star
Zenos is also much stronger
royal basin
Take his conflict with WoL and raise it to the actual level of the heavens
Battle via primal
crystal mural
i vaguely recall mention elidibus not using zenos' body to full potential
then there's the whole eyes thing
royal basin
I'm still ???? about whatever the fuck is up with Zenos' body what in the hell did Emet's unsundered genetics + resonance make here
pastel dock
The game can tell us that Sathona but it has failed to visually show Elidibus do anything impressive
crystal mural
personally feel he being underestimated
slender merlin
Remember that Elidibus chose to flee rather than fight Zenos in some random's body
gaunt star
Zenos was a lab rat as a child lol
winter grove
I can totally see WoL& Hydaelyn VS Zenos&Zodiark as a super fight,
frozen spade
i still don't understand why the writies bought back zenos
royal basin
Zenos absolutely was a lab rat
glacial turret
Hi I’m Daisy
slender merlin
Probably because he's simple to write for
pastel dock
Even with Zenos v Elidibus it all happened offscreen so we can’t be impressed by it
hollow vigil
Potential to flesh him out maybe
gaunt star
probably cause he sensed Emets death
pastel dock
We need to see Elidibus do something impressive that presents him as a credibly heightened threat compared to Stormblood
gaunt star
we did
crystal mural
where you been bruh lmao
slender merlin
Cursed
noble jetty
i was so focused on worrying about Raha, that square completely blew me away with this:
slender merlin
Why did you nonose the miqo?
frozen spade
emets like: "fuck you"
noble jetty
ofc it's emet
timid solstice
I mean he is
crystal mural
"go do your thing as usual"
gaunt star
the stone that was used was Azems
timid solstice
With the handwave
noble jetty
i mean seriously
gaunt star
fam..
timid solstice
Bruh thats Emet's handwavw
hollow vigil
I miss him 😭
winter grove
What if Azem WAS Emet
frozen spade
names are just titles
timid solstice
I dont think so
slender merlin
Emet needs to come back and possess Zenos and maybe 6.0 will be good
gaunt star
hes dead get over it
noble jetty
emet's dead, we killed him, he used a spell to make elidibus fail, we're azem
crystal mural
let the man sleep, goddang
pastel dock
@gaunt star You say “we did” but Zenos has done basically nothing on-screen except no-sell a single combo attack from Gaius and Estinien, both of which are characters we beat up at level 50
winter grove
You cant die, just return to the lifestream
timid solstice
Fish us out of lifestream
slender merlin
Yeah then 6.0 would be the adventures of WoL and Emet
fickle pumice
@noble jetty That wave was suppose to be Emet-Selch right
sacred dew
DAMNIT MASTER MATOYA! ||Why you have to karate chop the feels...||
prisma vine
honestly if gaius can come back, i think anyone they want could
gloomy shale
That song that plays when Graha gets his send off is so good
winter grove
I mean Hauche and Ysale came back to save Estinien
slender merlin
The WoL smashing shit and Emet making snarky comments
subtle pasture
Ah, working through the new Werlyt stuff, van Valens,
gaunt star
atleast for gaius it made sense
noble jetty
@fickle pumice yes it 100% was him, they recreated the pose and wave 1:1
gaunt star
Emet was hit with a blade of light or aetheric blade whatever u wanna call it on top of the white auracite
pastel dock
I’m not saying he would, I’m saying since we beat him up the first time he hasn’t showcased being strong enough that we couldn’t just slap him down a second time
timid solstice
Yeah we never saw Gaius die in Prae
slender merlin
Emet finger snap and wave emote when?
gaunt star
theres no way hed survive it
timid solstice
Just him laying down
subtle pasture
And the Sorrow of Werlyt was only a decade ago
--the plague, that is, for which the questline is named for
crystal mural
is the logic that only we grow stronger in the world or what
frozen spade
my theory. We finish off zenos and the weird in 5.4/5.5 and get a completely new main villians to focus on in 6.0 and onwards
gaunt star
Elidibus was a primal so he died as one anyway
crystal mural
p sure some npc's ramp up their skills as well over time
winter grove
@gaunt star We literally saw him return to aether when he died
gaunt star
???
prisma vine
zenos slit his own throat. gaius had an entire airship or w/e fall on him. if the devs/writers WANT a character back, they'll come back
fickle pumice
He got sucked into the crystal tower wym
slender merlin
The crystal tower that exists in multiple shards
royal basin
Wish Gaius had some scars from Prae - like gimme a gnarly neck/face burn
crystal mural
he do be lookin crispy tho
radiant ice
Did an npc reference FF7 when you beat sapphire weapon? Because a friend said it’d be easier to just shoot it in the head with a cannon
frozen spade
my mind: when someone dies in 14, they aren't dead
subtle pasture
Yeeeeup xD
winter grove
What does "dead" even mean in this world?
prisma vine
ok but when he first showed up, people were like 'maybe he got burned' instead of just. acknowledging him as black
pastel dock
Fandaniel has the same problem, atm he’s just diet Emet but more crazy so while he may or may not be cool it’s hard to see him as a threat we can’t put down easily
subtle pasture
Just read that myself,
slender merlin
Diet Emet 😂
gaunt star
we have barely seen anything from Fandaniel besides the burst of happyness hes 'free'
hollow vigil
I'm still waiting for papalymo to show up 
fickle pumice
Im just sad that Ryne is losing her dad 
royal basin
will be interesting to see if they turn him down the way they did emet
gaunt star
she will be fine with her wife
timid solstice
Papalymo showed up
gaunt star
unless she dies too
royal basin
Ryne gunbreaker I speak it into existence
timid solstice
and we murdered him again
slender merlin
Ryne got a goth gf now it's cool
timid solstice
👌
cosmic crown
in the trial... is that who I think it is <3333333
hollow vigil
Yeah 
pastel dock
Fandaniel is going to have to do something pretty impressive to make him feel remotely a threat after emet and Elidibus
cosmic crown
that hand motion
fickle pumice
Yo but the fucking child Miqo'te who talked about becoming an Apothecary who fights and then the Spectral Necro BEST BE A FUCKING TEASER FOR A NEW HEALER/MDPS
winter grove
What if somehow what he was freed from was Zodiark, thats why he is so crazily happy.
crystal mural
saw him for 1 cutscene so i don't think i got much to say on fantaboi just yet
timid solstice
Oh let's not forget the INK MAGE
obsidian smelt
Where do I go for the mech trial?
gaunt star
well 6.0 will conclude the hydaelyn vs zodiark and with zodiark not having a heart anymore, Zenos can just use his power
frozen spade
Apothecary, Beserker, Ink Mage, and Nercomancer where shown/teased at this patch
fickle pumice
Oops saw a spoiler i was trying not to see
timid solstice
I mean
crystal mural
ah yes, going into the spoiler channel
timid solstice
you're in spoiler channel
sly bluff
ink mage
prisma vine
yall ink mage was just smn
fickle pumice
But WAR is already a berseker per-say
gaunt star
how is it a tease if they are just some minor enemies xd
fickle pumice
I know lol but I was trying to be careful
prisma vine
the only tease, if any, was chemist!
sly bluff
why not book mage
subtle pasture
Sapphire story good
hollow vigil
6.0 will have 4 new jobs 
fickle pumice
I think Ink mage was just what they were calling SMN
frozen spade
Berseker is WAR & DRK combined. Its SE teasing us about crossclass 2.0. Like FF11
timid solstice
I need to do Ruby weapon
fickle pumice
We dont need another tank or melee
timid solstice
which I still haven't done yet
fickle pumice
We neeed a new damn healer >:
timid solstice
Apo/Ink Mage
north fulcrum
Balance the first three before adding another
crystal mural
they nerfed it so they wouldn't have ultima drama
obsidian smelt
male viera and female hrothgar in 7.0
gaunt star
yeah we need a new healer people will be unhappy with
spice vessel
Were the Thief, Necromancer, and Berserker currently alive in their worlds but had their spirits summoned or were they dead and resurrected?
polar star
Puppets Bunker cleared
gaunt star
so they gonna complain as if a 4th healer never released
timid solstice
Thief is rogue
vital brook
New attires 
polar star
What a fun raid
crystal mural
people complain regardless honestly
polar star
That was great
fickle pumice
Well they better be because if Alphinaud goes back to his old attire afterwe got to see him in the one the Chais gave him I'll be angy
knotty whale
all rounder
timid solstice
ok
frozen spade
new glowly primal weapons:
doesn't add GNB/DNC to them
timid solstice
so filler nice
frozen spade
north fulcrum
He does whm/pld/blm
gaunt star
their new attitre is the same they used on the First
hollow vigil
gaunt star
thanks to titania telling tataru
north fulcrum
and has some unique skills
crystal mural
nice, so i can take him on double dates with uri and thancred
north fulcrum
such as Holy spamming as WHM
gaunt star
we dont
timid solstice
and WoL is the coolest kid
gaunt star
cause its bad
north fulcrum
If FFXI is anything to go by, the second to last fight of the game
gaunt star
draining aether to sustain n stuff
winter grove
We get a mech that eats primals though
crystal mural
what's to say we aren't one already
north fulcrum
we'll become a god and then shed our godhood
frozen spade
imma be mad if they nerf the puppet's bunker
winter grove
I mean G-Warrior
frozen spade
pls no nerf SE
winter grove
Thats we know of
north fulcrum
Anything can eat anything if it tries
gaunt star
ugh
winter grove
Its built by the same people.
timid solstice
Oh how did y'all feel about new trial?
winter grove
Just modified by Cid
polar star
You just gotta read a lotttttt of tells
vital brook
lmao
timid solstice
This Crystal party had to retry once
polar star
Like Cid
crystal mural
dug up in azys la and nerfed to not have big explosions happen
frozen spade
PB might get nerf bc it requires people to pay attention as 60% of the mechanics are non telegraphed
vital brook
Oi why was that bread's texture so crisp?
polar star
Key word Crystal, Bard.
viscid monolith
Uh ok
timid solstice
because ppl kept dying on limit breaks
viscid monolith
Valdeuulin is a fucking badass
hollow vigil
It did look tasty
timid solstice
I don't think Elidibus wasn't that hard
gaunt star
winter grove
Every weapon so far eats primals
vital brook
i didnt manage to snitch a photo of the zoom
timid solstice
But I haven't tried EX yet
north fulcrum
@spice vessel ||He summoned their desires to save the world, not the actual people themselves||
lilac crest
elidibus wasnt hard but you get caught off guard cause ruby and memoria was a joke lmfao
timid solstice
and I'm sure it's gonna be a nightmare with no AoE radius shown
frozen spade
the texture of the bread is bread
vital brook
Compared to the table
gaunt star
PS3 died for this
north fulcrum
hi
viscid monolith
It's badass
north fulcrum
I will but we doing UCOB atm
gaunt star
imagine doing old content on patch day oof
viscid monolith
A little too easy. Ki da hope they make an extra mission that's harder
north fulcrum
Ultimate is always current 
gaunt star
nah old
viscid monolith
Also
timid solstice
We wiped once in a dungeon
timid solstice
on the last berserker boss
viscid monolith
Kept hitting enrage
gaunt star
we wiped twice in the heroes gauntlet cause the healer loved to kill herself
viscid monolith
LEO
north fulcrum
ISNT IT JUST THE OLD FIGHT
viscid monolith
PEOPLE CAN'T DODGE THE BOW
north fulcrum
HAHAHAHAHAHA
vital brook
look at the old textures
timid solstice
Is it literally the same?
viscid monolith
THEY CAN'T DODGE THE BOW
vital brook
compared to...bread
timid solstice
Imagine not staring at Shiva's ass
viscid monolith
This ass clown asked one us to make a macro warning the group about the bow
north fulcrum
Imagine dodging the ice circles
viscid monolith
Leo you have to
hollow vigil
6 months to make the bread hq
north fulcrum
Did they up the damage insanely? Cause even when EX was new we didn't
viscid monolith
Unreal is literally minimum ilvl. Shiva fucking shreds the tanks if they get too many stacks
And she crits soooo much
ashen pawn
They did Regula dirty once again tbh
north fulcrum
thanks SE
ashen pawn
viscid monolith
She can crit with any weapon
Or if she doesn't have a weapon
And her raid wides hurt because, again, minimum ilvl
Reminder that minimum ilvl Shiva Ex is 95
And when we did it were like 110
vital brook
ashen pawn
Poor dude is a Legatus that is a solo instance boss (TWICE), a first dungeon boss, gets killed in a cutscene and when it's time to summon his memories he doesn't get lines like MemoryNael did, he's just an attack
fickle pumice
Just pop awareness 5head
vital brook
why the heck are those so GOOD TEXTURES?!
viscid monolith
So I don't think many people have experience with Shiva Ex at min ilvl
bold condor
It's called Archon Bread tho.
ashen pawn
Being Regula is suffering
crystal mural
regula can eat pant
viscid monolith
Eventually we did just eat the circle
slender merlin
See I'm not sure I'd want a reminder of home to be some unholy mixture of fish-veggie-bread
north fulcrum
Nothing will make me ever dodge Shiva circles
viscid monolith
Because the brainlets kept getting hit by the bow amd dying
north fulcrum
in any fight
viscid monolith
But your healers will curse your name
subtle pasture
Then perish
drowsy belfry
Hey Glass check this out
viscid monolith
Unreal is the equivalent to min ilvl Shiva ex
drowsy belfry
viscid monolith
So vuln stacks are actually a threat
subtle pasture
But the real question is,
viscid monolith
Her raid wides do like half your hp if you aren't a tank
subtle pasture
does Avalanche pierce through KB immunities
viscid monolith
No
gloomy shale
I must have skipped over this but how does Seto know Ardbert?
viscid monolith
They all ate it
slender merlin
Seto was his amaro mount in his WoL days
subtle pasture
good ol' Shiva
open verge
Is shiva hard?
glad jackal
ok just finished the mqs, RIP 6.0 is gonna be the end of ffxiv
gloomy shale
Oh it was his trusty steed?
subtle pasture
Not at all, she's a very straightfoward primal
slender merlin
Basically yeah, but he couldn't speak back then
next quarry
It was like his chocobo
subtle pasture
-Can we come back to Terncliff after the quest
crystal mural
he was what chocobros are to us
subtle pasture
this place is pretty
drowsy belfry
Yes!
next quarry
Trusty friend
slender merlin
Yeah if our chocobro learned to talk
rare sinew
He was his partner in crime
cosmic crown
so elidibus is gone just like that?
viscid monolith
@open verge It's equivalent of doing an EX at minimum ilvl
open verge
Those new zones better look cool
heady shadow
gonna say... rip everyone who hasnt done CT yet xD
viscid monolith
And you can't over gear it
open verge
Nice
gloomy shale
do all Amaro's talk?
rare sinew
Nah. Some
slender merlin
Some learn to
crystal mural
he a 100 years to just chill and learn
subtle pasture
well not exactly min ilvl, since you do got all your 80 tools yeah?
slender merlin
They usually leave when they do because it'd be a bit odd if your mount just started chatting one day
rare sinew
Yo, that Hero's Gauntlet hits HARD
slender merlin
That's why they're off in Il Mheg
subtle pasture
where do you unlock Faux Hollows, Idyllshire?
rare sinew
Trial too
winter grove
It's kinda like the fairytale thing, they learn after being alive for a really long time
open verge
Yes idyllshire
subtle pasture
...hey Hedge, question
viscid monolith
The fight is tuned to ilvl 430
open verge
This Patch story has been the greatest
viscid monolith
And the highest you sync is 435
subtle pasture
||why did they animate this sweat||
open verge
Think this is the peak story wise for ff14
Every piece of content has a story I’m interested in
gloomy shale
anyone know the name of the music track when Graha crystalizes?
hazy moon
anyone have the lyrics for the warrior of light trial
?
i want to not-embarrass myself by singing it in private
placid sail
god this patch is so good
subtle pasture
Why are they super obscuring Varro's face like it's some big secret
crystal mural
because his nose is massive
placid sail
I haven't felt this hyped since the release of Shadowbringers
crystal mural
they dont want to see him bullied too early on
subtle pasture
ouch that cup
polar star
Idk
open verge
Torn from the heavens?
polar star
I hate the weekly gear cap
It's so stupid
I want my glam
Fending gear didn't drop anyway so eh
rare sinew
I really shouldnt have done MSQ in my 2b leggings and hempen camise