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#retired-patch-6-3-discussion
swift kraken
gaunt star
yooo emmy my boi
crimson pollen
Yeah, Papalymo gonna pull some miracle stuff and save the day
half tendon
that image is what happens to me when i accidentally turn the cold water on first in the shower
bold condor
I love that I can fly up and see the Gold Saucer from southern Thanalan now.
swift kraken
crystal exarch house aetheryte
bold condor
cursed
swift kraken
half tendon
crystal exarch lawn gnome
bold condor
that's cursed
gaunt star
kadame stop it
swift kraken
i want one
bold condor
same
half tendon
greehee's new staff but instead of the chunk of tower it's one of the exarch's hands
gaunt star
u got an alive exarch and 2 graha minions
radiant badger
Wait did we get a new Eden as well? 
gaunt star
its enough
radiant badger
I don't think we did.
swift kraken
i wish
crimson pollen
in 5.4 only
bold condor
5.4 will be the end of Eden.
rigid sapphire
How much story content/cutscenes are left after the trial?
radiant badger
Fair enough, we got enough as is
teal geyser
Need a new G'raha outfit minion @gaunt star
swift kraken
but this game hates me
gaunt star
is every part of his body crystal though, or only the visible parts 
rigid sapphire
like in terms of time
bold condor
Quite a bit.
swift kraken
yeah wheres the new one
gaunt star
@teal geyser i need grahas outfit tbh
swift kraken
im robbed rn
prisma vine
i told my fc the deathcount is 1.25
bold condor
A remembrance questline and then there's a "bunch of cutscenes will play in a row" at the end of that.
Deathcount is 3.
If we just count major heroes.
summer shore
Has anyone worked out a pattern for the triangles being drawn in the extreme trial?
crimson pollen
this patch ppl have the opportunity to have the good stuff wven without raiding
rigid sapphire
damn. I have a meeting in 40 min and I'm just at the trial. lol
half tendon
hm. Has anyone checked if there's any new post-MSQ dialogue in amaurot
nimble wolf
where do i go to start the saphire weapon quest line?
teal geyser
Deathcount is actually 100000
radiant badger
I personally find it hilarious that there seems to be a bunch of players staring at the giant hole that used to be a mountain in Kholusia.
Like wtf did this map do to SE to make them un-mountain it twice?
half tendon
same place you went for ruby weapon
teal geyser
Those poor WoLs
quasi zodiac
Urianger is a fucking chuuni dork
nimble wolf
the lochs?
gaunt star
yes
bold condor
Urianger is a JoJo character.
half tendon
yeah
craggy gale
gaunt star
Rommy why ure insulting Jojo?
quasi zodiac
Actual Major Spoiler:
crimson pollen
Do ya'll know Urianger is the frog disguised fella in pixies quest, right?
gaunt star
Asahi has that kind of face ud just never hate to punch
radiant badger
Also I'm right fucking chapped that little bastard is SOMEHOW STILL AROUND
Albiet not him
But still him
teal geyser
So far
radiant badger
Y'get the fucking idea
half tendon
The Idiot In White is the new best character, he's like Emet Selch if he ran entirely on cartoon logic
teal geyser
Fanadiel is cool
gaunt star
look the guy got stabbed by a primal
half tendon
he got better
craggy gale
kill jester
radiant badger
Twice!
gaunt star
hes dead, thats just fadaniel being crazy
teal geyser
Kill jester
gaunt star
kill cali
tardy elm
Yotsuyu 💃
teal geyser
Kill Sath
radiant badger
He didn't just get stabbed by a primal, the fucker took two swords to the gut, that's double the stabbing
teal geyser
They suck
half tendon
No, Calisaie, Fanadiel is our friend, we can't kill him!
gaunt star
u suck
bold condor
gaunt star
https://twitter.com/coeurlclaw/status/1293254848712855554 is this u cali
Twitter
gaunt star
worry
half tendon
that's fanadiel
teal geyser
Uwu
half tendon
Also can we uh
crimson pollen
NGL... When I saw Zenos in that solo inst, first thing came to mind was exactly "ah, shit.... here we go again..."
half tendon
Can we fucking talk about THAT thing in the trial
next quarry
Sapphire wepaon fight was cool but kinda underwhelming?
gaunt star
what thing in the trial?
radiant badger
In unrelated news, this is Omega, right? The mount.
quasi zodiac
radiant badger
Looks like it'd drop from Omega
next quarry
The bird?
bold condor
quietly changes the title of that webm
half tendon
right after the active time maneuver when what seemed to be emet showed up
bold condor
Northern Thanalan has like the highest ceiling apart from Coerthas Central Highlands so far.
half tendon
I very much like how literally nobody in-universe has any idea what happened there
Y'Shtola's like "Maybe it was the crystal, bro, I have NO idea"
craggy gale
He sent you to the shadow realm
teal geyser
@radiant badger that was GARO
drowsy belfry
Garo
teal geyser
Garo mount
craggy gale
Ginga
wet crown
...Elidibus cut himself off of Zodiark. So He doesn't have a heart anymore.
Man, Zenos doesn't even have to move to set the plot in motion.
drowsy belfry
Omega is literally Omega
crimson pollen
I just want to see Mogmenders finish the Zenith and Churning Mists restoration
half tendon
i choose to believe that that one jp-only text post is canon and Hades has just been vibing in the lifestream this whole time
rose arch
Has anyone done the ex trial yet
radiant badger
... it's an event mount, isn't it
teal geyser
No
radiant badger
teal geyser
@radiant badger GARO was a timed event yes
wet crown
A super long running event
craggy gale
bold condor
Of Emet-Selch's mask?
icy topaz
pretty sure new trial will spawn croissant memes
bold condor
Like, there are more image results for people just MAKING his mask.
teal geyser
His red sigil mask?
half tendon
The one wiht the concentric circles?
wet crown
I got you Rom.
half tendon
am i the only one who feels kinda teased by the fact that the WoL didn't throw up their own face glyph/mask
Although us having the Plot Rock DOES mean we might be able to do that
crimson pollen
Let's get real: Did anyone try Aurum Vale yet?
half tendon
i play this game to have fun so no i haven't gone to aurum vale
craggy gale
Now people don't have to learn to read attack names
teal geyser
plot rock
Yep that's what it is
gaunt star
damn runar u simp
half tendon
Runar is the simp who won
lilac crest
Anyone know what music plays on incitatus mount?
half tendon
he's got his long-distance catgirl gf
craggy pawn
Thirstola
bold condor
You know what I just figured it out
teal geyser
Y'shtola is a thotty thot?
bold condor
He's never shown from the neck up in the Vauthry flashback.
crimson pollen
In the end Y'shtola dn Thancred will always come back to their hate love tension
gaunt star
Y’shtola is a bitch
bold condor
At least, not in human form.
teal geyser
I could go through models if you want
polar star
Trial completed
bold condor
As Hades, we do see the shape of his red mask.
polar star
IM SAD
gaunt star
Should have long been dead
half tendon
You see it during the phase transition in Dying Gasp
bold condor
Would be cool, and while you're at it can you pull up the Azem model from the Dying Gasp?
teal geyser
The azem model is just the normal ancient model though?
bold condor
Is it?
teal geyser
Yea?
bold condor
Yoshi-P lied to us.
wet crown
I also agree
bold condor
teal geyser
What did he say?
wet crown
Then again, they're all shades
bold condor
He said that model's mask was different.
polar star
what does the Yorha 53 fending gear look like?
teal geyser
:thonk:
half tendon
Oh yeah does anyone know if uhhh
bold condor
Maybe he was mistaken.
craggy gale
Looks like shit
half tendon
The shadowless fending helmet has a visor toggle
wet crown
He also said the 5.3 boss wasn't obvious but it was still Elidibus
half tendon
For the veil
teal geyser
Maybe it's worth looking at it again
wet crown
next quarry
His form wasn't obvious
half tendon
Because I really do not dig the veil and want the Ancient mask
next quarry
WoL was a huge surprise
wet crown
Details, shmetails
teal geyser
@bold condor I'll try to find it but I honestly don't know if it'll be labelled differently to other shade models
bold condor
The reason I really don't think that image was of Emet-Selch is because they do have red-masked models now.
half tendon
Yeah WoL was the craziest out of left field shit in this patch apart from, y'know
wet crown
Watch, his mask has 1 pixel more
crimson pollen
it alsomakes sense, since you drop the wol gear from CT if not mt
bold condor
So the wave aside, it doesn't look like Emet-Selch as we saw him only a few moments prior.
half tendon
hades aliv in rift
teal geyser
@crimson pollen Labrynth yes
bold condor
Which is to say in the Echo flashback where we saw Elidibus welcomed to the Convocation.
Emet-Selch would presumably be there, too.
hushed bison
does anyone know where i can find the new trial totem exchange?
wet crown
Should be in Eulmore
teal geyser
Probably Eulmore like the rest
lilac crest
Eulmore
half tendon
If I might provide an interpretation:
If that is hades, he wouldn't exactly be wearing the red mask anymore
bold condor
half tendon
As he wouldn't be part of the convocation now
bold condor
This image is the one I'm referring to.
hushed bison
hm ok ty!
teal geyser
I'm not sure who we are talking about here
teal geyser
Thought so
wet crown
A shade of Hades
teal geyser
It's Hades
wet crown
bold condor
You sure?
half tendon
Doesn't like
teal geyser
Not sure why you'd think it otherwise after all the obvious signs they put out there
gaunt star
Of the one Ancient that is hidden away
half tendon
Dialogue right after imply that the WoL went to the scions and was like "AND THEN HADES SHOWED UP IT WAS FUCKING WILD"
bold condor
The only obvious sign is the wave.
half tendon
Yeah IIRC
teal geyser
@bold condor and the staple snap
half tendon
Shtola goes like
bold condor
I mentioned before why I didn't think the wave meant anything.
half tendon
"WEll uhhhh maybe it was like the crystal as a parting gift from Emet-Selch? Or not. I have no idea. shrug"
wet crown
The snap, the wave, the dialogue choice right before the fight, the scion dialogue
bold condor
With the assumption it was Azem, I thought the "staple snap" was a trait of Azem's.
teal geyser
Oh yeah Scion dialogue did say that
bold condor
One adopted by Hades in remembrance of his friend.
prisma vine
wave, snap, mentioned by scions, he had a talent for snapping people where they had to go...
half tendon
honestly can you imagine how funny it'd be if it turns out that was actually hades
bold condor
Oh, it's that dialogue?
half tendon
area man explodes, presumed dead. turns out he was just vibing in the rift, shows up to fuck with his friend as you kill him
not that exploding kills people in this game
wet crown
It was a shade, conjured by Azem's crystal
bold condor
Also the main reason I thought it was Azem was that it was - yeah
Conjured by Azem's crystal
lunar mesa
someone know where is ryne after the shadowbringers story?
bold condor
Which would imply the memories ensconced within belonged to Azem.
wet crown
But that wouldn't mesh well since Derplander is brought back, too
craggy gale
Oh yeah now we have a diegetic way to explain why there are random people in our party
gaunt star
I personally find it hilarious that there seems to be a bunch of players staring at the giant hole that used to be a mountain in Kholusia.
is this dwarf quest stuff or nier 🤨
half tendon
Also another thing I kinda want to talk about: Ardbert's just... hanging out in there huh?
teal geyser
Same until the wave
bold condor
I mean, we were brought back in the
wet crown
And teh shade leaves right after
bold condor
Same spot the shade was
teal geyser
I thought it was Azem till then
half tendon
Ardbert, Fray and Myste as peanut gallery commenting on all the dumb shit the WoL does
prisma vine
blasbo i feel like he's our new middy lol
wet crown
You say that but my avatar was in front of him
bold condor
Ugh, but I like the implication that Hades picked up the snap from his friend so much better than just
half tendon
Also I gotta wonder
bold condor
A shade of Hades with no distinguishing features
Like, if they meant it to be Hades, they had like
royal spruce
that msq was good
bold condor
Three options
half tendon
If that one bit with seto was like
visual metaphor for ardbert getting in the driver's seat for a sec or just
wet crown
Rommy, you got the WoL trial right. Don't get greedy
half tendon
"No actually the warrior of light can just DO that now"
crimson pollen
Yeah, with Fray was by my side in the beginning when had to pick up ingredients and stuff like that. Fray would go nuts
wet crown
prisma vine
both i think
teal geyser
Ugh, but I like the implication that Hades picked up the snap from his friend so much better than just
@bold condor we can coexist!
bold condor
- Use the red-masked Ancient model.
- Use the image of Emet-Selch as we remembered him.
- Use the model of Hades from the Dying Gasp.
Any of which would be way clearer to me.
half tendon
turns out the WoL heard emet talking about the reshaping bodies thing and was like
swift kraken
man rommy i thought that emet adopted azems mannerism too
half tendon
"Wait shit why don't I do that"
bold condor
Than just a hand gesture that could definitely be something Emet was doing to remember his friend by.
swift kraken
and that it was a shade of us
and i was made fun of
man rommy i thought that emet adopted azems mannerism too
half tendon
"Wait shit why don't I do that"
wet crown
Aren't you just reading too much into it?
swift kraken
wow cool out of order send
craggy gale
Yeah but all of those would have scuffed the pog moment
teal geyser
- I think the red masks are synonymous with the bad ones now
- would be harder to see in the fight?
- I like it since it more just shows him a simple shade
half tendon
Yeah my uhhhh internet had a moment
craggy gale
And pogging is more important than making sense
bold condor
The red masks are synonymous with Elidibus's FRIENDS.
craggy gale
half tendon
pogging is absolutely more important than making sense
that fight was poggers as fuck
wet crown
Puppet's Bunker was exactly as alien-shit crazy as I expected it to be
bold condor
If it was meant to be a friend of his, wouldn't it make sense for him to SEE his friend as he knew him?
wet crown
but with a whole lot more wipes
bold condor
- Emet's is a human model.
It's not going to be harder to see.
Especially since that was a cutscene-camera.
Meaning they could go as close or as far as they wanted.
half tendon
the WoL's driving motive post hydaelyn and zodiark saga is just
half tendon
trying to figure out who the fuck that shade was in that fight
gaunt star
After alliance taid
swift kraken
same
bold condor
- I don't mind if he's a simple shade, I mind that it doesn't have anything that distinguishes it as Hades apart from the gesture.
half tendon
angrily shaking the Azem rock and shouting at it
wet crown
but who the fuck put the crystals around in Amaurot? Hythlodeaus?
swift kraken
ive been staring at my new minion for an hour now
bold condor
Hythlodaeus, yes.
Which is what I interpreted the "A gift from Emet-Selch" bit to be referring to.
bold condor
That Hythlodaeus, created by Emet, gave us those crystals.
And the one he made and kept for himself, the one of Azem.
Which proved our salvation.
There's also the parity
swift kraken
wait hold up
bold condor
Before we fought Emet-Selch, he saw us as we once were.
bold condor
Before we defeat Elidibus, he would see the same.
cyan pawn
Iv been trying to carry parties for commendations...but jesus WoL is hard tocarry XD
half tendon
G'Raha "Fortnite" Tia
swift kraken
half tendon
absolutely incredible that g'raha tia, the man with the most death flags in the UNIVERSE, survived htat patch
strong dew
he revived.
half tendon
he died, but then he got better
strong dew
G'raha Tia is Jesus
glossy terrace
wet crown
I will protect my crystal kitten, no matter what
half tendon
bro plz revive me i have crystal tower
glossy terrace
Do we know where this is from?
half tendon
i really love how he immediately turned back into a fuckin dork though
glossy terrace
Ah ok
next quarry
Looks like the draggo from ishgard
wet crown
Elidibus of Light mount
glossy terrace
Thanks
swift kraken
doesnt the new ex have a different one
hollow vessel
Ishgard restoration I believe
teal geyser
guys please
it's a gwiber
It's either the new one or Ruby
not sure what the Ruby one looks like
hollow vessel
Its holding a little hammer
swift kraken
it looks like ruby to me
gaunt star
The fucking
next quarry
That doesn't look like a Gwiber at all
prisma vine
no its the baby from idhgard omg she's our new custom deliveries gal
swift kraken
same
gaunt star
The new customer delvier
next quarry
No
gaunt star
THE DRAGON GIVES A DRAGON
next quarry
It's from scrips prob
polar star
Anyone know what the Gwiber looks like yet?
gaunt star
Like a Gwiber
next quarry
Garlondtools
swift kraken
custom delivieries usually give jackshit
next quarry
Gwiber of Light
bright mango
Garland Tools confirms the Red dragon comes from a Custom Delivery Quest
half tendon
Very cool that square has set precedent for adding more permanent trust members though
swift kraken
oh he actually stays an all rounder
half tendon
Yeh
nocturne void
Had a no-wipe Puppet's bunker run
next quarry
Gonna do it now
half tendon
More tank trust members blease
nocturne void
But boy howdy was it a fucking struggle
swift kraken
friendship ended with thancred tank
now graha tia is my best friend
gaunt star
Its fun
half tendon
When will Aymeric's term end so he can also come fuck around with us
nocturne void
The end boss is a trip
half tendon
WAIT WHAT
gaunt star
half tendon
PROPERLY GLAM?
nocturne void
PUT GRAHA IN SUMMER GEAR
swift kraken
bap
nocturne void
SPEEDO GRAHA
swift kraken
yep
nocturne void
Damn
half tendon
Speedo graha
nocturne void
Can't wait for the mod to have speedo graha
polar star
Please no
half tendon
I walk into the crystal tower
Eyes: red
Blood: royal
Pants: off
I am forcibly removed from the crystal tower
swift kraken
as soon as my cmtools starts working
gaunt star
Where do I start dwarf quest
nocturne void
Kholusia
half tendon
Also where do I get the kastozky kick
gaunt star
I've done them all
next quarry
It's another quest from the "Village of Woe"
half tendon
Blease I must know
nocturne void
If you've done it, it's in the center of the map
next quarry
Then Ronitt to the Rescue series
nocturne void
Kholusia, in wright(?)
next quarry
Then "It's dwarfn time"
gaunt star
Found it
open verge
I’m concerned for 6.0 story wise
twin crag
Okay, so I want to know more about us as Azem
quasi zodiac
nocturne void
Why concerned?
quasi zodiac
open verge
I like zenos but I don’t think the guy is main villain material
quasi zodiac
Zenos isnt the villian tho
nocturne void
Probably more shit.
open verge
Oh for sure
nocturne void
More sundered ascians
open verge
He won’t be the only one but
gaunt star
Do we have a list for the new ARR quest line?
nocturne void
showdown with hydalen and zodiark
twin crag
I think the guy in Ashais body is the main villain
gaunt star
I guess I start progging ex
open verge
More ascian bleh
half tendon
final battle is a danceoff with fandaniel
open verge
He left a really underwhelming impression at the end there
nocturne void
God, I can't imagine how bad SoS will be on EX
twin crag
I am wondering what Azems roles was with hydalen I know we where not for zodiark
But was Azem true neutral?
half tendon
Azem, as far as we know, was a neutral third party
open verge
Azem defected
faint dagger
So is ||Hildy appearing in Gauntlet|| random? I couldn't find him at the spot posted previously
open verge
Or not lmao
half tendon
HE WHAT
nocturne void
WHAT
twin crag
Yeah he appeared
faint dagger
it was posted earlier
faint dagger
||he's a light boy, lost and alarmed in a corner||
not named, not interactable
just has a speech bubble saying 'where am i'
but it's definitely him
nocturne void
Where's Greg
twin crag
Ded
foggy raft
Does anyone have a album of the new crafted weapons yet??? Primal ones
faint dagger
well since I couldn't find him in the spot posted earlier
nocturne void
Greg cannot die
twin crag
He gone
faint dagger
There might be some random spawns we haven't yet seen
Because remember whatshisname the thavnarian went down with them
twin crag
But if Azem was a deflector for zodiark but that doesn’t mean Azem was on hydalyns side either right?
gaunt star
We were sundered and technically can function without her blessing
twin crag
That’s true. She just “woke us up” to our true selves
polar star
I think I understand why the patch is called Reflections In Crystal
bitter cloud
is there an ex version of WoL fight?
twin crag
Yes
polar star
It reflects on our past
gaunt star
Yes
polar star
The allies we made
nocturne void
Time to fuck up hydalen
polar star
Reflecting on our journey in Norvrandt.
twin crag
Yes this patch was ya reflecting on the past
gaunt star
I would assume if we were against summoning Zodiark
twin crag
Thus the solo instance
polar star
And heroes gauntlet
gaunt star
We would be against Mother Crystal tol
nocturne void
Dan should be excited to kill Yshtola, even if it's just an echo
twin crag
But that’s why I think we are true neutral, because if you haven’t noticed mother crystal has be very quiet lately
nocturne void
Lo fi beats to hip hop and slay ascians to
twin crag
And tbh I didn’t think we would have killed Eli this path
gaunt star
She can't control us
twin crag
Patch*
nocturne void
You know I'm right
twin crag
Yeah ik,
polar star
Shush.
nocturne void
I want to be a primal
swift kraken
periodt
graceful heron
This story is making me 
gaunt star
twin crag
We where and still am the first adventurer
strong dew
god damn it that seto moment made me tear up ;w;
bitter cloud
same :<<<
strong dew
but did it actually happen?
twin crag
I was an emotional wreck
half tendon
"Azem said that! And I'd say they know a LITTLE more about adventuring than you do, pal, because they invented it!"
polar star
I straight up took a moment to pet the amaro in the gauntlet
gaunt star
Yeah
twin crag
I think it did
strong dew
dfhjsdks my HEART
gaunt star
Seto Is fae
swift kraken
i have to ask
is there an orchestrion roll for the new music wiht the sad piano
im pretty sure that is new
twin crag
Idk
swift kraken
like the sad eternal winds piano
nocturne void
Yes
half tendon
AND THEN THEY PERFECTED IT SO THAT NO LIVING ANCIENT COULD BEST THEM IN THE RING OF HONOR
swift kraken
YES
nocturne void
So yes
gaunt star
Quick Q
swift kraken
omg im so happy
strong dew
seto's english va sounds oddly familiar
swift kraken
question is how do i get it
nocturne void
To the edge being the Trial Music
half tendon
Prolly the EX version
swift kraken
no thats to the edge
twin crag
The trial was amazing tho
swift kraken
wheres eternal wind shb version
gaunt star
For those of you that play male characters. Did hydrotherapy refer to Azem as he?
craggy pawn
||Asahi this little bitch is still alive, wtf||
strong dew
it was a lot more fun when i had a team that new what it was doing xD
swift kraken
yep he says he
nocturne void
half tendon
The VERY DEFINITELY ALIVE lord of house brutus
faint dagger
Where yon fuck do you buy undersea rain?
swift kraken
poggers
nocturne void
You're going to have to prog ex
strong dew
so is ardbert just chilling in our soul?
nocturne void
Yes
unreal hound
yes hello resident ff1 fan here can i just say AAAAAAAAAAAA
gaunt star
Yeah
strong dew
nice!
strong dew
as long as he doesn't fade away i don't mind having him a soul buddy
strong dew
aren't we already god?
craggy pawn
||Oh, its not asahi exactly, just another ascian in him, thought it was the lil rat ||
strong dew
darn :c
nocturne void
Who're the other two?
half tendon
fray n myste
nocturne void
Ah, I never did DRK
twin crag
^
craggy pawn
Wol a whole squad
gaunt star
I loved the dungeon
graceful heron
Idk wtf I thought was going to happen
gaunt star
bitter cloud
we're a strong independent denser-soul kinda ancient ouo b
graceful heron
But I need a nap now
nocturne void
As long as I'm not the people in my party. I don't want to be joined to a Cure-bot.
gaunt star
half tendon
Ink mage tho
proper zealot
Warrior the budget berserker
strong dew
where's OUR necro and berserker classes? >:(
scenic sun
Ink Mage is a Scholar
faint dagger
so to clarify, neo-ish gear exchange isn't one-to-one?
half tendon
Same place as the apothecary class
nocturne void
It is not
nocturne void
oop
half tendon
PUSH ME TO THE EDGE
ALL MY FRIENDS ARE DEAD
-elidibus, probably
faint dagger
Does anyone have 'neath dark waters lyrics transcribed yet? from the eli fight?
bold condor
As a stand-in for Derplander.
He already has strong Derp energy.
Look at that neck.
That's a neck made for nodding.
His stoic Au Ra pretty boy face is basically always perfect for any cutscene he's in.
bold condor
Because WoL is a fucken sap and so is Jin.
strong dew
i wonder what she said in japanese and if it was different from the english version?
bold condor
But also I gave him the surname Mitsurugi in 4.0 and then it turned out that oops that's the actual ruling clan of Hingashi.
bold condor
and also I named him "jin" which means "compassion" which can be taken as a word for "love" which would've fit well if he became a Lightwarden.
strong dew
i don't make the rules.
bold condor
And then
And then Jin's title throughout this MSQ was "The New Sun" and his Guardian is Azeyma, the Warden. He's an Auri Raen, said to descend from the Dawn Father Azim. Turns out Azeyma and Azim's names are probably derived from Azem, the original soul of the Warrior of Light. He is literally the "New Azem."
subtle pasture
Rom are you finished w/ the MSQ
bold condor
ye
subtle pasture
I just,
bold condor
Your name
subtle pasture
nocturne void
My primal is the Marketboard
deft flame
Anyone got any pics of the new nier raid sets?
bold condor
Like yeah speaking of happy coincidence
Your namesake
Turned out to be plot-relevant
We are Magni's God.
You know what this means?
gaunt star
that means we are Sadus god too
bold condor
Hythlodaeus is obviously his Nhaama.
polar star
Man the MSQ this patch is looooooong
scenic sun
Uranger's a Weeb
strong dew
xD
polar star
I've been at this for 5 hours and i believe i'm at the second to last quest
obsidian smelt
Those y’shtola innuendos though. :3
swift kraken
is azem our actual name or our convocation title
gaunt star
yes
harsh birch
it makes a lot of sense for us to actually be anti-hydaelyn
since azem was clearly anti-primal
and we are the defacto primal killer
rigid sapphire
its as much our name as elidibus is his name
harsh birch
its what we do
gaunt star
technically Azem was a traveler they travelled
polar star
Runar is a simp confirmed
gaunt star
so wether he was there or not 
strong dew
shit. i had to hug Ryne ;w; poor girl.
polar star
runar needs to stop simping
gaunt star
she shut him down fast
strong dew
lmao
nocturne void
Imagine not telling the Exarch to talk to Lyna.
polar star
Just like she did to Magnai.
strong dew
a boy with his first crush, mind you.
harsh birch
kinda interesting that the Dawn Father is Azim, and we are Azem
nocturne void
Better than magnai
gaunt star
she said since its possible to travel shards shed find a way
harsh birch
it may be nothing
gaunt star
but we all know she wont
strong dew
if anyone can find a way back to the first it's Y'shtola.
harsh birch
but kinda odd the names would be similar like that
strong dew
oh god not this xD
nocturne void
Look at this poor guy. He's doing his best.
mint axle
Would you eat Tataru's bread?
gaunt star
and the tower is sealed
strong dew
wait it's blue? in my game it looked purplish
nocturne void
PS3 died for this high quality FF15 bread texture
strong dew
i dunno fish and vegetables in bread sounds gross.
swift kraken
lets get this /bread
gaunt star
bread texture stronger than the crystalized parts of exarch
strong dew
these people have no sense of taste
swift kraken
this but unironically
nocturne void
God, that texturing was so bad
bold condor
flies over middle La Noscea
swift kraken
why was he so pixelated
bold condor
background is badly textured from sky with disappearing shrubbery
strong dew
he was becoming a ps1 character
bold condor
"Ooof. Probably wasn't meant to see that."
swift kraken
hes shattering into m64 polygons
deft flame
Not gonna lie, I hate Runar so I skipped his part completely.
nocturne void
Runar is a sweetie
gaunt star
deft flame
Runar a biiiiiitch.
strong dew
Runar is adorable
gaunt star
hes a simp
deft flame
^
polar star
Same
strong dew
for literally everything.
gaunt star
people use it wrong 99% of the time anyway
deft flame
Even though that would mean Y'shtola is mediocre.
strong dew
"he breathed in her direction, SIMPPPPPP!"
gaunt star
Shtola is great
bold condor
la noscea looks worst of the arr areas when it comes to flying
strong dew
and it's only used for men. Where is my female simp representation? I can totally simp for hot anime characters guys!
bold condor
the RP map?
gaunt star
yes
bold condor
alisaie simps WoL
strong dew
true
bold condor
WoL's onlyfans blowing up here
prisma vine
lol that's thanalan
bold condor
got Haurchefant rip, Aymeric, Lyse, Alisaie, G'raha Tia
strong dew
i swear to god at the end of the game we better go back to the first.
bold condor
thanalan looks baddish but it's less bad because it's a wasteland
shut burrow
How does one get into Boxja?
deft flame
Yeah, simp means: Suckas Idolising Mediocre Pussy. So when a guy gets called a simp talking to whatever girl, you're calling her mediocre too.
bold condor
my favorite thing in la noscea
scenic sun
Oh so it's another ascian with that twerp's body
strong dew
Boxja? "Get one box, put it with another-"
bold condor
and i noticed this even before flying
if you go to a certain part of western la noscea
strong dew
(it's an Out of the Box joke)
prisma vine
let's look for one that's long and wiiiiiide
bold condor
it's so bad it's great
strong dew
Yes!
prisma vine
on mobile so delayed lol
polar star
Y'shtola is mediocre.
bold condor
feels good being able to fly over to the isles of umbra
nocturne void
Makes fishing hella easier
strong dew
@polar star why would you say something so controversial yet brave?
also, finally someone says it!
she's an average tier waifu
harsh birch
yes but in xiv we don't get much better
scenic sun
Did Zenos pretty much became Sephiroph?
harsh birch
XIV has way better husbandos than waifus
strong dew
luckily we get plenty of husbandos.
gaunt star
hopefully Aymeric dies
gaunt star
yes u did
strong dew
I've been calling Zenos "blond haired Sephiroth" since Stormblood lmao!
bold condor
Sephiroth is actually somehow less interesting than Zenos.
Primarily because, say what you want about Zenos, he's actually self-motivated.
gaunt star
whats interesting about zenos xd
scenic sun
Kek
harsh birch
yet zenos doesn't have sephiroth's suave
deft flame
Too bad every girl outside of XIV is mediocre without their snapchat filters.
pastel coyote
he's juicy
strong dew
ah shit, NO RYNE DON'T CRY.
bold condor
Whereas Sephiroth is basically trying to get revenge on behalf of a centuries-old alien he thinks is his mom.
gaunt star
Sephiroth is bad cus he is a Villain with zero reason to be the bad guy of the heroes
bold condor
And also that he mistakenly believes is an Ancient.
strong dew
crying is my weakness. it makes me uncomfortable.
gaunt star
I AM GONNA SASS THAT MAN
bold condor
When she's actually an alien parasite.
strong dew
i don't know what to do when people cry.
pastel coyote
kick them
harsh birch
lets be real its all because sephiroth killed aerith that he is notorious
and how that rocked a whole generation of gamers
strong dew
i'm not gonna kick my mom when she cries lol
deft flame
Let's be real.. Aerith was weak and meant to die.
gaunt star
Like, the story of FF7 and why the gang chase down Sephiroth
And i just realized after a while
harsh birch
pft no
gaunt star
...There is ZERO Connection
polar star
G'raha is a 10/10 waifu
gaunt star
Like, Sephiroth has no ties, no motives, or anything that relates to the gang in a personal level
He is just Bad
Creepy bad
bold condor
There's a connection.
gaunt star
And thats why he is the villain
pastel coyote
"eco-terrorist organisation search a dead legendary soldier"
strong dew
fallen hero.
bold condor
Like how he killed two of the main characters' families.
harsh birch
Aerith is like the only character with any real emotional intelligence and nuance
deft flame
He wants to destroy the world, how bad does he need to be?
bold condor
He killed Cloud and Tifa's families and burned down their hometown.
gaunt star
See and thats
strong dew
i mean a lot of villains want to destroy the world lol
gaunt star
That is a good step
bold condor
I may not suck Sephiroth's dick off, but there's a connection.
gaunt star
But like, for the first part of the story
You don't know that
You don't get told this connectino
bold condor
Tifa does.
polar star
I haven't done Puppets Bunker yet, is it fun?
gaunt star
Until WAY LATER
strong dew
like, i can't stand kefka as a character. but people love the shit outta him.
nocturne void
Puppets bunker is fun
harsh birch
It isn't way later
strong dew
but he's just a crazy clown.
gaunt star
okay not
polar star
Or is it as boring as cf
strong dew
who wants to nuke shit.
nocturne void
Puppets bunker is also fucking hard
bold condor
Wait, doesn't Cloud know he burned Nibelheim but not who he was in that scenario?
gaunt star
15?
bold condor
Cloud definitely knows Sephiroth killed his family.
gaunt star
Do mind
bold condor
From the start.
gaunt star
I am speaking OG FF7
strong dew
@bold condor yeah.
bold condor
I am, too.
harsh birch
originally OG
bold condor
Cloud absolutely knows what Sephiroth did.
harsh birch
you learn about sephiroth at the end of the midgar arc
strong dew
oh. in ff7og i dunno
gaunt star
snaps finger
nocturne void
Kefka is a villain who intrudes halfway into the story
bold condor
The only part he doesn't know is that ||Zack was the SOLDIER, he was a grunt.||
harsh birch
immediately after that you go to kalm
gaunt star
The VERY FIRST THING after Midgar
harsh birch
and he tells the story
gaunt star
Is going
harsh birch
yes
gaunt star
"hey this is why Sephiroth is bad"
deft flame
5.3 spoilers turned into FF7 discussion randomly.
strong dew
lmao
gaunt star
I AM SORRY I AM ANNOYED AT HIM
nocturne void
Kalm is super long too
bold condor
It's because Zenos-Sephiroth comparison.
viscid monolith
Sephiroth told Cloud to his face if he didn't already know
bold condor
I'd say Zenos is more like a non-cowardly Kefka.
strong dew
Zenos is just fight horny for the WoL 24/7
deft flame
It's Zenoroth.
gaunt star
I remember hearing so so much, about how Sephiroth is a foil to Cloud
nocturne void
Fuckfighting
gaunt star
Like, he is a PERSONAL Villain to Cloud
nocturne void
Fightfucking
viscid monolith
Anyway Zenos is about as interesting as any FF villain from the first 7ish games
gaunt star
And i dun even understand why
viscid monolith
None of them are super deep
gaunt star
Like, even if Cloud said "you killed my hometown"
Sephiroth is 100% allowed to say "Im sorry, who are you again?"
But during the entirety of FF7, he is REALLY into Cloud
For SOME reason
harsh birch
he killed his fam and destroyed his city
bold condor
I mean, they do foil one another. Sephiroth is what Cloud aspired to be all his life and then destroyed him. Both of them spend the majority of the game under a delusion of being something they're not, but Sephiroth is completely absorbed into the fantasy while Cloud has to break out of it.
harsh birch
i think you forget
bold condor
Also, he's not really into Cloud in FF7.
harsh birch
what happened to cloud after nibelheim
bold condor
Only the Compilation and Remake do that.
gaunt star
For some reason
bold condor
Yes, because he killed him.
scenic sun
^^
bold condor
He fucking hates him and wants him to suffer.
strong dew
obsession
gaunt star
See i feel like the reason it throws me off is that
bold condor
Sephiroth and Jenova are basically interchangeable.
gaunt star
Sephiroth seems to have their own goals
deft flame
Jenova is a babe. Just saying.
strong dew
^
bold condor
But it's mostly Sephiroth.
gaunt star
But
strong dew
they're one being at this point
gaunt star
Sephiroth to Cloud is like
A strange 'fixation'
That has no correlation to his own motives
scenic sun
What mostly Romka said, Cloud killed Sephiroth before falling to his coma
bold condor
Cloud also killed Sephiroth again at the end.
harsh birch
That's because Cloud is drawn into the Reunion
by the cells
Like all the other experiemnts
harsh birch
Cloud literally can't not think about Sephiroth
gaunt star
i love puppets bunka
viscid monolith
It's definitely more Sephiroth. I have a feeling if it was just Jenova then Sephiroth wouldn't be half as cocky and just decapitate Cloud immediately when they fight.
scenic sun
Kurdel loves mechas
gaunt star
I did everything else first
nocturne void
@gaunt star You get to the end boss yet?
bold condor
It's possible Jenova had a personality, too.
gaunt star
Nier Raid was a f+ck
bold condor
We'll just never know it.
faint dagger
No credit for me, but it's there
bold condor
But so much of FF7 revolves around the "false identity."
deft flame
Does anyone have any pictures of what the 5.3 Nier raid gear looks like?
harsh birch
I think Sephiroth is intrigued by Cloud because he's a gd grunt that took him down (kinda)
bold condor
That the story doesn't work if it's not Sephiroth carrying out his own, false ideal of Jenova's will.
nocturne void
@gaunt star Why was that end boss the way it was
bold condor
Because that's how he's a foil to the party.
nocturne void
Why
bold condor
All of them labor under some manner of false identity.
gaunt star
AND I THOUGHT IT WAS A STATUE
bold condor
In one way or another.
harsh birch
yeah
strong dew
fjkfklf poor Lyna
harsh birch
Tifa can't make up her mind
harsh birch
Aerith struggles with her role as a ancient
bold condor
All of them are telling some lie, and Sephiroth is so far gone into his lie that he's lost all sense of reason.
gaunt star
Oh also Dragon wants to be best crafter and its cute
deft flame
Tifa has lower back problems.
bold condor
Which is also why I don't think Zenos is Sephiroth, mind.
harsh birch
Barret has to come to terms that he did bad shit even if he had good reasons
bold condor
Zenos knows full well who and what he is.
gaunt star
the final boss of puppets bunker was disgusting to look at
but it was a simple boss actually
bold condor
Zenos is probably the least-delusional villain in this game.
nocturne void
Yeah, I'm talking about the appearance
harsh birch
I think we can say Zenos is an OK villain but he is by no means a deep villain.
nocturne void
it was easier than the rest of the raid
bold condor
He's cruel and fucking insane.
gaunt star
i saw her reproduce
harsh birch
He's just straight crazy/evil
gaunt star
and i was like
deft flame
@gaunt star Does the gear in there look cool?
bold condor
But he knows what he is and accepts himself for it.
harsh birch
without any real justification
polar star
Manager of Suites is best boi.
gaunt star
but
polar star
Change my mind
nocturne void
Alright, going to take a break. I started at 5am
bold condor
Whereas Gaius lived under the delusion that 1940s Italian government movement would save the world.
strong dew
bahaha
harsh birch
Gaius was way more interesting in 1.0
nocturne void
what
harsh birch
2.0 he was just MAN OF POWER