Different in what way
#retired-patch-6-3-discussion
turbid helm
hazy moon
cooking chicken lyrics
pulsar yacht
or big soft tacos
whole shell
It's more uppity
I can't really describe it
They show a lot more emotion compared to previous ones
turbid helm
Good because shit was grim
whole shell
It was good yea
The final one was especially funny
I did feel sorry for edilbius tho
Dude just wanted to keep a promise to his Bros
whole shell
Yo his cameo in the last fight tho
leaden wind
so, eureka 2; electric boogaloo has yet to be added, correct?
next quarry
I loved Elidibus in the end
He just wanted to be a WoL, like everyone else
But was obsessed with his duty
teal geyser
He was a smoll boi
@gaunt star He was Ascian Myste
unique verge
idk, like, i felt....sorry for Elidibus? But i certainly didnt like him or forgive him or anything. Not like i did Emet.
whole shell
We all instantly knew who he was lmao
Only one man in all the worlds with that kinda wave
gaunt star
20 mibute queue on patch day
turbid helm
I knew it as soon as he snapped his fingers. I felt the the power of the Sasscian.
gaunt star
cali shush
teal geyser
Smells like WCS
unique verge
idk if you told the degens that they could acquire some authentic 2B body odor they'd pay for it.
remember that bath water happened
teal geyser
the 2B butt exhaust odor
shut burrow
craggy gale
Atem
severe brook
the next expansion will merge Astrologian and Summoner into one class that uses cards to summon
craggy gale
hope the thing is tied to a job but
viral dew
craggy gale
it's gonna be like an 8.0 job
crimson pollen
Hydaelyn is a good girl in the end
ashen violet
also: thank fuck for phased fights jfc
15 minute long fights were getting a bit too much @@
crimson pollen
How long till they nerf the trial? lol 1 month? 2?
craggy gale
aww, did the bottom boy not want to watch a 2 minute long cutscene and get carpal tunnel from the atm
gaunt star
there's nothing to nerf
bold condor
Back with boba tea.
ashen violet
also there's a small text bug when you have the starshower weather, if you talk to the Skywatcher and check novrandt weather, the line isn't translated properly
it's something like 'ah sorry... we can't read the weather atm'
bold condor
I think I'm going to do the Sorrow of Werlyt quest next.
unique verge
The trial is excessively easy if you recognize the mechanics from previous fights
which, you know, are all mandatory MSQ fights
ashen violet
the qte's a doozy for people with hand problems though
bold condor
I don't think the fire/ice one was from an MSQ fight, was it?
gaunt star
Its just pre-phase 2 thats a pain
unique verge
Yes
ashen violet
so hopefully they sort that out
bold condor
Which one was it?
unique verge
@bold condor Fire Debuff was used by 5 headed dragon in WoD. Ice is used by first boss in Snowcloak.
magic holly
the VIIth legion Legatus is a fucking psycho and a pedo D:
gaunt star
also where do I unlock the uh ||seat of sacrifice extreme?||
bold condor
Ahhh, makes sense.
unique verge
So there's zero way to have not seen those
bold condor
My group only wiped twice.
lavish birch
crystarium id imagine
ashen violet
should be the minstrel
bold condor
First was because of that mechanic, but we learned it soon enough.
bitter cloud
what are we supposed to do when the boss limit breaks us?
bold condor
Second was mistiming the tank LB3.
ashen violet
tank lb3 the first time
craggy gale
the dungeon final boss was goofy
gaunt star
Else it runs out before it hits
Dungeon final boss was neat once you know what you're doing
ashen violet
gwarsh, guntbuster, I can't believe they added a Disney character into ffxiv
jkjk
bold condor
The implications of Azem are.
bitter cloud
thank you!
craggy gale
monhun crossover continuation
bold condor
And how their names are similar to Azim and Azeyma.
viscid monolith
I didn't want the WoL to be the 14th Convocation member but oh well
bold condor
I expected it.
ashen violet
so if someone picked azeyma when making the character they'd be worshipping themselves?
bold condor
I mean, who else were we going to be to be rubbing elbows with like
A Convocation member and a prospective Convocation member.
forest magnet
Does Azem mean anything in particular
craggy gale
the joke is that your unsundered self had friends and the rest didn't
bold condor
No, it's unique to this game.
gaunt star
its a title
bold condor
It's a title, yes.
forest magnet
Any reason why it's Fandaniel and not any of hte other remaining ones we haven't seen yet
bold condor
Because.
forest magnet
anything interesting about that one/
bold condor
Scion set by the gods to wield and manipulate the laws of this world, and with holy power lead mankind to order. Created in opposition to Fandaniel the Protector, scion of light. Desiring to bring order to all things, he joined with Ultima in her battle against the gods. He gave his body to the Thousand-Years War, and when his strength was spent, down into the burning inferno he fell.
viscid monolith
I just liked the idea of not being someone super important in a past life
polar star
Ok Heroes Gauntlet is the best dungeon to date.
forest magnet
If FFXIV ended with 5.3 and didn't have Zenos running around in the background I'd be happy
I don't think they can finish it any better than this
bold condor
I find it very interesting, the implications of Fandaniel.
gaunt star
I like fandaniel
bold condor
We did know that Nabriales didn't quite see eye-to-eye with Elidibus and Lahabrea.
viscid monolith
Implications of him holding some kind of grudge against the unsundered Ascians?
gaunt star
He's a cool dude
viral coral
Has anyone found Beg Luqq or Lyna after the conclusion of 5.3? I'd like to read their flavor text.
bold condor
It's interesting to me that there's such a scism between the unsundered and sundered Ascians.
More importantly, paired with Zenos, he actually makes for a good ground to Zenos's abject stoicism.
marsh osprey
what the flying fuckshit is the weapon story line
marsh osprey
is this a mecha anime now
gaunt star
Yes
gaunt star
succ
bold condor
ashen violet
is the weapon duty tough control wise?
lavish birch
not particularly
next quarry
After the trial, my entire party start patting him
bold condor
Love this shot so much.
viscid monolith
Well Emet and Elidibus say multiple times that they view sundered as wretches or whatever
next quarry
Classic pose
bold condor
viscid monolith
Makes sense that it extends to Ascians
bold condor
bold condor
I've made mention of that before in my assessment of the Ascians.
In calling the sundered worthless, they're basically also giving that message to the sundered among their followers.
forest magnet
Sundered Ascians rise up
polar star
This is the best patch ever
glossy plaza
Anyone know how to get back to Terncliff/Werlyt?
bold condor
And here I expected the death of Elidibus would mean the end of the Ascians.
next quarry
Then the sundered ascians come up like "yo"
viscid monolith
Didn't Fandaniel also mention living a little
forest magnet
Now what's interesting is if the 'Lord' Fandaniel mentions isn't Elidibus.
But it probably is
ashen violet
so we have a whole bunch of ascians running around trying to impress a no longer existing band of unsundered now? or will their goals change once the unsumdered are gone
bold condor
Which Lord?
limpid flame
Man, I cried so much with all the sadness in this MSQ patch. And then got another confirmation that Zenos is just an extreme yandere. And got overjoyed at G'raha Tia trust companion. ๐
craggy gale
the white mask boys being mentioned and not even appearing on screen once
bold condor
He meant Zenos... ostensibly.
If he has another lord, we don't know it.
But given Zenos's power and the fact that he's basically one of them now...
forest magnet
idk man, not too hyped for 6.0
bold condor
He might just mean Zenos.
viscid monolith
The theme of "Living life to the fullest" comes up multiple times
hollow vessel
Yeah I think Fandaniel is basically just a second gen Ascian stoked to do whatever he wants now that hes not binded to the goals of the unsundered
ashen violet
rammbroes?
bold condor
Rammbroes.
viscid monolith
Ya
bold condor
I'm gonna go fly all over ARR now.
forest magnet
are the contsellations on the crystals actually irl ones (the zodiac) or are they something else
bold condor
I think they're IRL ones.
next quarry
Being mortal is a common theme throughout ShB it seems
bold condor
...And also the sun.
ashen violet
how do yall feel about the nier raid so far? heard talk about it being not friendly to newcomers to the drakengard/nier series but as someone who'd read through playthroughs of both i can't entirely be sure
writing wise I mean
foggy raft
Can someone link the imgur album of primal weapons if it was posted for the people stuck at work
bold condor
gaunt star
Been in a 24 minute queue
floral aurora
Thank you SE for giving me the Heavensward title screen back xD
gaunt star
yeet
forest magnet
what does it look like if you're a lala
forest magnet
ashen violet
xuan asking the true questions
bold condor
@drowsy belfry
forest magnet
Also was Elidibus a manlet
bold condor
wait what if he ain't did it yet
forest magnet
he's tiny
drowsy belfry
No I've done it
radiant badger
That little black haired, black-hearted bastard..
bold condor
good
viscid monolith
@forest magnet U hold the bottom
amber loom
how good are the new weapons?
forest magnet
395 ilvl i think, probably crummy substats if i had to guess
amber loom
495 probably
gaunt star
Currently flying over la noscea tead
amber loom
probably easier to run e7s
wet crown
Geez, that raid. But I was correct with my guess. 2P was made by the alien lifeforms
gaunt star
amber loom
I figured something was a bit off with 2P based on the white clothes
I ran it as a dragoon
gaunt star
Doing puppets nown
ashen violet
this cannot continue intensifies
gaunt star
I have a lala ss
gaunt star
It dont look that bad
nocturne void
That Trial song is very good
amber loom
The guy looked like the dude from the Final Fantasy 1 Cinematic when you launch the PSP version
did a side by side with that + the book
nocturne void
Yeah, it's the FF2 hero I think. Rose set.
bold condor
no.
amber loom
No its the ff1 guy
nocturne void
Ah, never played the remakes.
bold condor
?
nocturne void
Only the NES crunch
forest magnet
healers got shafted with the new weapons, they all have piety
all the other jobs look ok
i don't see any spell/skill speed or tenacity
bold condor
It's the original Amano art of the FF1 guy whose design carried over into Dissidia's Warrior of Light.
forest magnet
WoL has Omega-M's face
bold condor
Amano's design.
amber loom
yup
forest magnet
I can't stop seeing it
nocturne void
Yeah, didn't see the PSP version.
teal geyser
Speaking of the Warrior of Light
bold condor
Dissidia.
teal geyser
I like the red dragon reference
forest magnet
I guess it's intentional since because of the amano style
bold condor
Also makes sense since like
nocturne void
Way down there
radiant badger
WoL doesn't have Omega's face, he has Dissidia WoL's entire design
ashen violet
trying to get home
nocturne void
Has Watts been in an FF before?
amber loom
Omega would probably kick Elidibuses ass
bold condor
Watts?
nocturne void
Yeah, or is it a SoM reference?
bold condor
I mean, there've been characters named Watts.
drowsy belfry
When your Little Brother joins you on Xbox
bold condor
One in the original FF, even.
ashen violet
pffy
nocturne void
It does
drowsy belfry
Ye it doooo
bold condor
Though he was called Jim in original versions.
floral schooner
U heard correct
gaunt star
wet crown
you cannot live without tank lb3
bold condor
There's also a Watts in FF8.
wet crown
you should
nocturne void
Can't wait to have an argument in main chat about whether tank lb3 is necessary
limpid flame
tbh this is the best possible outcome 
wet crown
they should also notice
shy flax
is it very painfully obvious you need a tank LB?
nocturne void
It is painfully obvious
bold condor
Against combining G'rahas.
But the way they put it over in the MSQ makes it seem consensual.
forest magnet
as soon as I realized i smashed my keyboard typing they needed to Lb3
my tanks didn't listen
limpid flame
Yeah, for sure
wet crown
bold condor
And since our G'raha only diverged from Exarch after going in the Tower, he only gained memories, never lost any.
radiant badger
I saw an LB4 coming my way and I was like
Fuuuuuck sake.
And no, we didn't get a tank LB3 for that. Still survived though, somehow
bold condor
He's definitely different, but it's what his soul accepted so...
wet crown
I love that he instantly joins as a Lv.80 trust
limpid flame
I was hoping for the combined memories part, but no way I was expecting him to become a scion, super happy for that tbh
proven holly
anyone know what music the shiva unreal unicorn plays?
radiant badger
Though it was damn near a wipe, given most of the party got rekt 
bold condor
oh shit he does.
radiant badger
So yeah LB3 the LB4
wet crown
I wiped so often today
bold condor
I'd be loving the scenery of ARR right now.
foggy raft
Did anyone have the imgur link for the new primal weaps? Pleasee
bold condor
If the weather weren't raining.
gaunt star
even in story hes also acknowledged to have expertise on being a tank healer and dps
bold condor
And if it weren't the middle of the night.
So it's dark as fuck and I can't see shit.
gaunt star
not just for trusts
ashen violet
that's like a hundred years of expereince
wet crown
drowsy belfry
nocturne void
"I'm not a hero"
drowsy belfry
Lookit all this BLUE
bold condor
Alisaie like "where's my fucken outfit tho"
nocturne void
"Preceeds to be lvl 80"
bold condor
gaunt star
i was laughing so hard when i saw them being the same class as on the First
but then again Trusts
bold condor
When they said that I was like
drowsy belfry
I am also very happy that the Phantom Summoner didn't use a summon we didn't have
bold condor
"oh god it's true they're the only ones who didn't pick up a new skill on the First"
wet crown
drowsy belfry
Why Elidibus and their Bahamut is red tho fuckin I DUNNO
wet crown
that fight was too easy
gaunt star
and Shtola can supply Thancred with aether for cartridges or w/e called
drowsy belfry
bold condor
(It's probably a Demi-Bahamut.)
radiant badger
I GOTCHO BACK, RED ME
nocturne void
radiant badger
I can never change that hair.
bold condor
next quarry
Ali is big mood at the end
radiant badger
You mean this?
bold condor
Not for me since I got new clothes on the First. >:D
gaunt star
emet selch in the trial tho 
bold condor
god mood
hazy moon
i literally just took a screenshot of that alisaie scene
ivory jungle
hazy moon
new meme format inc?
bold condor
That wasn't Emet-Selch.
nocturne void
Song is "To the edge"
gaunt star
who even does the iconic wave like this
bold condor
Because that was definitely Azem.
gaunt star
gaunt star
hmm
bold condor
Right after trying to encourage us to remember.
gaunt star
possibly
radiant badger
Who knows, tbh
drowsy belfry
Oh fuck
bold condor
It's probably an iconic thing we used to do
drowsy belfry
That is such a good take tho
bold condor
When he knew us
gaunt star
so we are the sundered Azem?
bold condor
Yes
ashen violet
ye
radiant badger
It'd make sense.
gaunt star
pog
nocturne void
We were an ascian all along
gaunt star
well hythlodaeus was describing Azem
and it was like someone was describing the WoL
so
wet crown
Also, we all guessed the 14th's title wrong.
bold condor
That's why Hythlodaeus said our current form was fitting, yes.
wet crown
Dayum, Azem. No one thought of that
radiant badger
Souls will be souls, and what drives them likely does not change.
gaunt star
i mean people did assume we were the 14th member but still
nocturne void
Does Hythlodaeus's speech with the crystals change sex?
bold condor
Anyone else tell Elidibus he had no fight left to fight?
wet crown
"You've no fight left to fight."
gaunt star
i did
wet crown
Man, that line.
bold condor
It does change sex, yes.
drowsy belfry
Oh yeah I went with that
wet crown
It hurt good.
nocturne void
Then its us
bold condor
My question: does the inner voice change genders for you?
wet crown
Inner voice was Ardbert
ashen violet
so azem defected, lived long enough to be known as part of the twelve on the source, then got sundered
bold condor
Okay, that's good.
drowsy belfry
had me teary eyed
gaunt star
i play female character and it was Ardberts voice
gaunt star
same
bold condor
And I recently lost my pet bird.
gaunt star
i didnt expect id tear up there
bold condor
So I was like
wet crown
I actually almost cried at the Seto part
viscid monolith
It's good that they gave Unu some nuance. He isn't a drone for Elidibus
radiant badger
Man a lotta shit in this cutscene stung like a bastard
nocturne void
VA nailed it
bold condor
Poor Elidibus.
Also Elidibus was basically Zodiark's will and now Zodiark has no heart.
gaunt star
i love how he forgot even the person and the reason he was doing all this
radiant badger
Least of all being this for obvious reasons
bold condor
Vacancy just opened up.
proven holly
anyone know what music the new unicorn (Incitatus) plays? just saw someone riding it
next quarry
You can show graha the wind up mystel
bold condor
gaunt star
he was shocked but not surprised apparently
radiant badger
@next quarry Oi I'm tryna get nier shit done, stop givin' me small tasks lol
gaunt star
either that or turning him into currency 
wet crown
I absolutely didn't expect to kill Elidibus. And even less to fight Bland-Face of Light as a boss...Before hoverzoom decided to spoil me when my mouse hovered over the datamined weapon post on reddit.
ashen violet
hahhh I can't wait until I actually clear the trial :/ first run went for a good half hour before we got to phase 2 and then the party vote abandoned.... sad times
gaunt star
i was expecting to kill Elidibus
bold condor
I guessed Primal Warrior of Light since the end of 5.0.
But I don't put like
A lot of stock in my own predictions.
gaunt star
specially from the trailer literally saying 'Lets finish this'
bold condor
That said
gaunt star
u dont say it unless its a showdown 
craggy pawn
Holy moly, the trial was epic
bold condor
I do feel especially confident in my prediction of Ilsabard 6.0.
radiant badger
Being the last of the Unfragmented he kind of had to die. That said, they did just imply that the next expansion would be the last?
ashen violet
wait what's ilsabard again
bold condor
The middle continent.
drowsy belfry
That last line by G'raha practically confirms it for me
bold condor
!faq worldmap
drowsy belfry
tho
lusty shadowBOT
gaunt star
they didnt imply anything about it being the last expansion
next quarry
Home of Garleans and Bozjans
bold condor
You know, the one with the clouds over it.
wet crown
Fandaniel also literally killed my prediction of befriending the populace in 6.0
ashen violet
and what's there exac- oh
radiant badger
Like they explicitly said the final battle as the last line.
bold condor
Final battle in the story of this star's fate.
shell merlin
bold condor
Which matches what Yoshi-P said.
nocturne void
fandaniel is such a stupid name
gaunt star
6.0 might be the conclusion vs Zenos and we have no idea if Fandaniel has other plans
shell merlin
I dont wanna spoil for myself so im not looking at chat but
bold condor
Basically an in-universe way of saying 6.x will end Hydaelyn vs. Zodiark.
wet crown
Next healer - Apothecary
shell merlin
so cute
radiant badger
Fair enough, I guess.
gaunt star
or the other way around
drowsy belfry
"The last story of this star" is intriguing to me. We know from interviews there's more coming after HvZ. So what do they mean with Star ๐ค
bold condor
And all their names except Azem come from FF12 anyway.
gaunt star
seeing as Elidibus called on WoLs from other shards i dont doubt we will be going to another
wet crown
Elidibus came before
bold condor
Oh yeah Elidibus is from Tactics.
nocturne void
When's the roadtrip to the void
bold condor
But you know what I mean, none of them except Azem is original.
Speaking of, my WoL's guardian is Azeyma.
ashen violet
sads in oschon
gaunt star
mines Nymeia
i got a question, in the msq, when the exarch shows you the 6 white stones for the soul transfer, he says that he was going to try one on himself but that it isnt the same because he doesn't have a body in the source.
time to change to Azeyma
radiant badger
Can we just take a moment to appreciate how G'raha nearly drops his staff when Alisaie hands it back to him
gaunt star
Ryne doesnt have a body eitther
ashen violet
I mean the wanderer part fits but not quite
radiant badger
Absolute noob
wet crown
Isn't that borderline narcism?
gaunt star
wha will happen to her?
wet crown
bold condor
What?
gaunt star
wdym she doesnt have a body?
drowsy belfry
I was very tempted to change my name this morning to Azem Hedgius
viscid monolith
Ryne is from Norvrandt
crimson pollen
If Julian is Memphina, this would make her sister to the WoL 
bold condor
What about it?
gaunt star
she doesn't have a body in the source
bold condor
...Okay, and?
gaunt star
how can she transfer there
she can probably go to other shards when she learns more of her powers
i wonder if the animations feel better in 5.3 cause there's less pauses inbetween actions
wet crown
She didn't come to the source
soft maple
I KNEW THE FINAL BOSS WAS ELIDIBUS
viscid monolith
She's staying on the First
bold condor
She... isn't gonna.
ashen violet
she doesn๏ฟ t
soft maple
I effing knew it
gaunt star
Ok
another thing
also that
why 5 stones then?
oh
nvm
...
i was miscounting
XD
5...
execute karol pls
ashen violet
we could bring her food from the source at least.
soft maple
Also, how do you guys feel about
gaunt star
Forgive me oni chan
soft maple
Fandaniel
gaunt star
do the fandango
bold condor
Balances Zenos well.
forest magnet
Damn, Fandaniel
bold condor
Looking forward to seeing him again.
forest magnet
that's all i have to say
crimson pollen
At some point Azem sided with Hyddy, tho - dont think it something as simple "he got temper"
soft maple
He's very energetic
bold condor
Damn, Fandaniel.
wet crown
Ascian and corpse fit well together
nocturne void
I love crazy nutball man
soft maple
He feels like
craggy gale
Realistically the wol could just pick up ryne and go through the mirror
bold condor
I love how he fucken
nocturne void
I also love his very stupid name
bold condor
Roasts Asahi
soft maple
Emet jr. The brat
forest magnet
I would change my nickname to it but spoilers, will probably wait a week or so
gaunt star
fandaniel is already more interesting than Zenos oof
craggy gale
You're my child now
ashen violet
azem survived long enough to be remembered as part of the twelve before becoming sundered, so what happened before the sundering is a bjt of a contention i suppose
bold condor
I like both of 'em.
ashen violet
Nerf qte please
bold condor
I don't think either one works as well without the other since Fandaniel would otherwise just be a discount Emet-Selch with a more punchable face.
ashen violet
that's my single gripe
wet crown
Just before the last one, I was like Wait, this feels like the alien ship
gaunt star
oh yeah i wanted to punch that face
nocturne void
It was an allagan conspiracy
ashen violet
oh you meant the alliance raids
soft maple
That leaves one more unseen ascian
bold condor
Speaking of, we'll probably get to beat him up later.
royal basin
Yโknow the last thing I expected out of the patch was to cry into my coffee about Ardbert and Seto but goddamn did that snipe me in the heart Mustadio-style
nocturne void
Man shot his shot.
gaunt star
what ilv is the new raid items? is it a regular drop or a token that you exchange or something?
bold condor
This poor man.
wet crown
490
craggy gale
Fandaniel is a stupid name
gaunt star
poor guy
bold condor
He tried to play it off like "it's just a joke... unless."
craggy gale
Especially among names like elidibus
crimson pollen
So, final fight is WoL's "Blessing of Light" vs. Zenos "Blessing of Darkness?"
ashen violet
not blessing of darkness per se
nocturne void
no jk
ashen violet
more like blessing of science
nocturne void
but really
soft maple
I just gotta say like
bold condor
More like WoL's overarching love for all people on the star vs. Zenos's complete disregard for any and all life on it including his own.
soft maple
This adoration of who I can assume the very first warrior of light from elidibus
nocturne void
I don't love the people! I want to punch them!
bold condor
It's probably Azem, post-initial sundering.
soft maple
Wasn't really...explained
gaunt star
WoL will create a spirit bomb ez win
bold condor
Like, from context, we can surmise the Warrior of Light was THE first hero on both the Source and the First.
soft maple
There was light that pic and off comment
bold condor
And probably every other shard.
craggy gale
Now that light vs dark is over its time for chaos
drowsy belfry
Yeah I also got the vibe that Azem was the first WoL
craggy gale
and then horny
bold condor
It'd stand to reason they were someone alive during the sundering.
crimson pollen
We need to remember Venat said he'd be around
bold condor
Which would imply it was Azem.
soft maple
There's Venat, Azem
noble oasis
were there any teased jobs or anything? friend mentioned a chemist job was kinda teased by an NPC
bold condor
Venat is probably not separate from Hydaelyn.
prisma vine
chemist healer was talked about by a child
bold condor
The way Elidibus is separate from Zodiark.
bold condor
Perhaps. Perhaps not.
soft maple
I do not seem them topping this
ashen violet
more like tax collector
nocturne void
And just flick em at people.
shell merlin
crimson pollen
Venat will most likely not be some dude/dudette around - the way he said he would "choose his form" was weirdly specific to put
forest magnet
Was Elidibus supposed to be a child or a manlet.
craggy gale
8.0 wol finally uses the azem crystal to transform into ultraman
soft maple
YEAH BUT SQUARE DID CHANGE ELIDIBUS'S GIMMICK
drowsy belfry
I went FULL ON weeb with the dialogue choices in G-Weapon
bold condor
"So I was right, everything about my WoL basically fits this story to a T... including his lack of personality..."
nocturne void
WoL becomes the new zodiark, rejoins the shards, everybody forgets.
ashen violet
who decided to put a child in charge, really.
was it because they were running out of talented people or was it effectively grooming of some sort of king
soft maple
Ehhhh
crimson pollen
We might going into some heavy Belah'Dia revisit since they worshipped Azeyma
ashen violet
king as in authority figure I mean
bold condor
He even mentions why he approached you in 2.1 was to make sure your Light balanced the excess of Darkness after the Seventh Umbral Calamity.
radiant badger
I SEEK FOOD
ashen violet
it's 2am and I cannot think
soft maple
That makes balance the means though
radiant badger
craggy gale
live unite up
bold condor
He is the self-appointed keeper of Balance.
Balance was never implied to be his official capacity.
drowsy belfry
Oh that reminds me Rom
bold condor
It's a role he gave himself, and Unukalhai said as much in 3.x.
radiant badger
Balance of the table, you mean?
nocturne void
drowsy belfry
You brought up the idea that the auracite in the weapons was like our Job Crystals right?
radiant badger
Gotta keep the food equal on each side
bitter cloud
the server owner of the Balance should change his nickname to Elidibus
radiant badger
glacial turret
Man I dont like zenos and I never will
bold condor
Oh yeah those uh
glacial turret
He has overstayed his welcome far too long
bold condor
Those constellation crystals are Soul Crystals.
crimson pollen
Some ppl thinking Elidibus was the wol, omg....
soft maple
Yeah but elidibus never fed into that, y'know?
forest magnet
he's at least a bit more interesting with Fandaniel though
bitter cloud
man this expansions story so far is amazing
forest magnet
rather than a standalone character
nocturne void
Zenos does need a foil
soft maple
Like he has adamant stated that the reason the warrior of light has been used and antagonized was so that he can keep a balance
In this patch, it's different
bold condor
I like Zenos, and always have, so I'mma just not comment.
forest magnet
kind of like how the twins and now g'raha tia are foils for WoL
bitter cloud
emet selch coming in at the end of the fight made me tear up a bit ngl
nocturne void
Graha is the hero of the expansion
ashen violet
zenos's honestly intriguing personally. we've had plenty of complex villains, so having one solely driven by boredom/some sort of thirst for life does work out as being a comparison for the others
bitter cloud
๐ฎ
polar star
I just watched the scene before the trial
bold condor
polar star
OHMYGODTHISGAMEISSOSIVCKKKKKKK
bitter cloud
Azem was the last guy on the convocation right?
craggy gale
He just wants a good time, jack
polar star
yeah, we're azem
craggy gale
pretty boy
ashen violet
oh yeah there's the sunken eyes
soft maple
We've never seen the convocation version of themselves
bold condor
Actually, does he? Hmm.
ashen violet
or is that what you were referring to?
bold condor
Yoshi-P said he has a unique mask model.
forest magnet
why would he do the 'snap' and the 'hand wave'
bold condor
But lemme check.
ashen violet
unique mask wise
glacial turret
Im pretty sure its emet
bold condor
...Thing is that Emet-Selch's mask was red.
bitter cloud
i thought it was emet b.c of the snap and wave
next quarry
Oh G warrior is just the Ultima warrior
bold condor
Which is why I don't believe that's intended to be Emet.
next quarry
lol
wet crown
Yeah but this is a shade
soft maple
In his ancient form?
glacial turret
We were told weโd see emet again but in a different capacity
forest magnet
anybody spot the shoebill
crimson pollen
Azem was kinda like 007 - he was tasked with the international issues
balmy linden
@bold condor he did emet wave
forest magnet
and hte snap
balmy linden
when leaving
bitter cloud
Azem sounded like a WoL
glacial turret
Poor graha tia recovered from crystal stasis only to get male miqote hand arthritis
soft maple
AND he did the snap thing he does
forest magnet
those are definitely intentional
bold condor
I've mentioned it before but the Emet wave may have actually been ours.
crimson pollen
the shoebill I keep saying I believe is Venat
glacial turret
But all we do is nod
forest magnet
booo
ashen violet
I mean emet was the one who made the soul stone imitates in the first place so
could be a shade of azem, created by emet, who also was imitating azem
bitter cloud
he's reteaching us our moves*
balmy linden
akas Emet copied his lover/friend gesture?
bold condor
Just hold on a moment, lemme see if I can just find the first time we see Azem.
crimson pollen
The Shoebill is gonna pull something similar to Gaunter O'Dimm in Witcher 3, wait and see
forest magnet
throw a coin to your witcher ~ ๐ต
soft maple
BUT
drowsy belfry
I just can't get over the fact that in his last moments that sentimental dumbass Emet-Selch literally just went
soft maple
The whole thing with the convocation is to choose someone who is PERFECT for the bill
ashen violet
well at least they didn't point to anything like true names
drowsy belfry
"Here, have this new crystal. I nolonger ban you from my house parties"
soft maple
And I feel like that is what hythlodaeus did
faint dagger
So uh. Am I expected to know who Azem is, beside what they said in this patch?
teal geyser
Not really
glacial turret
If current graha fused with past graha then future graha never comes to the past and summons everyone to the first whats going on
teal geyser
@faint dagger you aren't expected to
forest magnet
it's the 14th aka you
teal geyser
If current graha fused with past graha then future graha never comes to the past and summons everyone to the first whats going on
@glacial turret the calamity never happened so he has no reason to summon everyone to the first
He won't go to the first at all
bold condor
I found the scene but it's so blurry because we're shrouded in light.
faint dagger
the time has been averted that would cause the problem of this time paradox
bold condor
I mean, you're expected to know from 5.0 and 5.2 who Azem is.
ashen violet
I mean, we could always die later
bold condor
They just finally named them.
faint dagger
so by creating a time paradox by saving the first, we avoid the time paradox of g'raha
teal geyser
I mean, you're expected to know from 5.0 and 5.2 who Azem is.
@bold condor vaguely sure
bold condor
Yes.
faint dagger
Well yeah he's the 14th disagreer
glacial turret
Back when thordan asked what were we he saw as as ascians right
teal geyser
I wouldn't say we really know the defector still
craggy gale
I like that everyone is ok with sleeping graha getting hijacked by his future self
bold condor
They asked "apart from this patch"
soft maple
SINCE they tell you that the previous Azem has a pretty solid strength of character, I highly doubt he would go in Hydaelyn's favor and proceed to be one of her favorite minions
silk frost
also does g'raha tia now have a staff instead of a bow
faint dagger
@glacial turret nah he just saw us as dark scawy
bold condor
Which is why I mentioned that the character is mentioned previously.
proper zealot
||6.0 Job: Azem||
teal geyser
Alright alright Rommy
glacial turret
Berserker and necromancer jobs when
soft maple
But then
teal geyser
also does g'raha tia now have a staff instead of a bow
@silk frost because his times as Exarch and he says with a bow he'll be a liability
teal geyser
WHAT
drowsy belfry
Fuck off Hildy's not a Warrior of Light
teal geyser
I DIDNT SEE THAT
proper zealot
12 Jobs in 6.0 for each Constellation Crystal
glacial turret
Omg i didnt see him
bold condor
OH MY GOD
bold condor
teal geyser
craggy gale
silk frost
well I guess the Hildi quests will have to explain how he got there
bold condor
THE GENTLEMAN OF LIGHT
soft maple
DAMMIT YOU STOP IT SQUARE
glacial turret
Hildy is a wol
bitter cloud
THE GOL
ashen violet
DID HE GET SUMMONED TO AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT SHARD.... then summoned to the first by elidibus...... what.......
next quarry
Hildi is really a WoL???
next quarry
Or just someone close enough
glacial turret
Maybe heโs a wol in some capacity
ashen violet
I mean elidibus was mass summoning with 'here lies evil'
worn spruce
is there a way to enter the puppets bunker instanced area like with copied factory? not by duty queue i mean
crimson pollen
if ppl cannot see Yoshi really making Godbert Byregot..... How the heck Julianjust casually knows stuff to counter zombiefication??? Its obvious now
proper zealot
What if Elidibus just made a mistake
teal geyser
Maybe heโs a wol in some capacity
@glacial turret He IS the GoL
craggy gale
Oh yeah didn't we literally just kill every hero-type character from every other shard
teal geyser
Yes and no
proper zealot
We killed spectres of them
balmy linden
teal geyser
Yeah we didn't really kill them
ashen violet
wasn't it just manifestations of their heroism?
gaunt star
Puppets vubker is giving me depression
prisma vine
it wasn't them in the flesh or even spirit it was-- what nemo said
ashen violet
something something pseudo-esteem
prisma vine
anti-depresso esteems
teal geyser
I'm not entirely sure what they are but they aren't nearly whole so it's probably no damage to them
craggy gale
So we killed the concept of heroism
strong dew
YES! we beat him!
teal geyser
Why not
proper zealot
Imagine if those weren't copies and we actually destroyed the heroism of heroes in other Shards
soft maple
The concept of BLIND heroism
prisma vine
no more hildy
strong dew
thank god for a hyper competent party xD
ashen violet
I mean as long as the source of said heroism continues to make heroic spirit then... they should be fine i guess
prisma vine
what's unu's new dialog?
crimson pollen
He is sad for elidibus
ashen violet
maybe they'd procrastinate a littls
forest magnet
wow they mentioned heart of sabik in weapon storyline, nice
prisma vine
yeah
teal geyser
But also says it was right for him to die
soft maple
I mean yeah but that's a given lol
craggy gale
bitter cloud
man, the Chai's turned out to be such a nice couple
hollow lily
God damn bird seto got me in the feels
ashen violet
okay it's like 230am as much as I want to know more about various 5.3 yelling I. got to sleep somehow
ttyl
crimson pollen
nah, the WOL (FF1) is still pretty good by heart - by the end Elidibus realizes he twisted his views
bitter cloud
Elidibus exists in other games?
gaunt star
tactics
silk frost
FFT
craggy gale
He's the amano art wol
craggy gale
oringal
drowsy belfry
Me N My Mech
craggy gale
Lahabrea took 2 expansions to die
crimson pollen
This reminds of Mikoto trying shoot her shot @ Cid and failing miserably
gaunt star
ikr
craggy gale
Emet selch had 1 expansion
teal geyser
Am I the only one who is a bit upset that Graha is back on the sourceM
gaunt star
yes
teal geyser
Hear me out
bold condor
As of now, yes.
teal geyser
Hear me out
gaunt star
why tho
swift kraken
ok im hearing your argument
craggy gale
Elidibus died in post expansion patches
craggy pawn
Ugh I cried
craggy gale
Fandaniel better die in the first 20 minutes
swift kraken
i understand why people would be upset but
i am too happy at the prospect of krile graha interactions to care
teal geyser
G'raha on the source and on the first have had 100 years difference. I would consider them two different people. At no point in the story is there a single indication that we asked the source G'raha if he was okay with this permanent change which we had no idea how it'd affect him
We just
Plonked new G'raha in regardless
bold condor
Thing is that if Source G'raha had objections in his heart of hearts, this wouldn't have happened.
teal geyser
It was pretty selfish?
craggy gale
It's his memories only innit
crimson pollen
Yeah, remember how Krile calls him "Raha" tis obvious they enjoyed a good level of friendship
gaunt star
the thing is the G'raha of the Source only gained memories he didnt lose anything, so its just the same person
swift kraken
that was a bit addressed
gaunt star
bold condor
Not particularly, the memories would've fizzled if Source G'raha didn't want it.
swift kraken
they said "if he didnt consider himself the same person, it wouldnt work"
teal geyser
Bo
gaunt star
So based on the ending is it safe to assume the next expansion is the last
fair if he didnt want it
swift kraken
for either of them
gaunt star
no it isnt Inko
bold condor
Nah, just the last of Hydaelyn vs. Zodiark.
teal geyser
Urianger said that if they clashed new G'raha would kick old G'raha out
gaunt star
they have a lot of material to work with
silk frost
they can always find ways to expand the story
bold condor
He said they'd merge.
silk frost
beyond the next expansion
bold condor
Beq Lugg says the word merge like
teal geyser
Not if they clashed Rommy
gaunt star
6.0 will complete the 20% of Zodiark vs Hydaelyn
bold condor
Twice even
silk frost
I do think the next expansion will be the moon
bold condor
Yeah, not if they clashed.
gaunt star
if ShB completed 80%
teal geyser
But...we had no way of knowing they'd clash
bold condor
If they clashed, Exarch would be dead.
crimson pollen
It might be the last of Yoshida, yeah... maybe he has some other projects he would like to try in the future and want his story done before handing over the realm
teal geyser
No
teal geyser
Source G'raha would be dead
swift kraken
the crystal would be gone
bold condor
Say it like thrice
That it's the Exarch who would be dead
If the body rejected him
craggy gale
Wol uses zodiark as energy to create a new world and 7.0 onwards the story takes place in modern day tokyo
iron scaffold
Tablets.........................Garleans have fucking workable Tables/Ipads!?!
teal geyser
Urianger said that Exarch would need to see old G'raha as himself otherwise the latter will kick out the former out of the body
swift kraken
its still the source grahas body so its not like he doesnt have a place already
teal geyser
I swear to god
gaunt star
eh next expansion isnt the last
quasi zodiac
gaunt star
idk what ppl are drinking
bold condor
Urianger isn't Beq Lugg.
swift kraken
that gif is saved
gaunt star
same
spiral wagon
mooooooooooood @quasi zodiac
teal geyser
I..don't recall Beq Lugg talking about outside of "man the fuck do I know"
drowsy belfry
Urianger mentions it
craggy gale
swift kraken
yep
bold condor
Beq Lugg states that the flesh will either accept the new soul and they'll meld together, or the flesh won't accept the soul and the body will reject it, leading to it being lost. Among a couple of other, not-relevant things that could go wrong.
quasi zodiac
craggy gale
My need to make a JO crystal meme ruined my experience with 5.3
swift kraken
also saved
gaunt star
also saved 2.0
teal geyser
@quasi zodiac I thank you
swift kraken
fuck
crimson pollen
Ryne's role as Oracle seems too important for her as character to lay dormant in the First ~~ Guess something gonna happens after Eden is done to make her piss off to the Source as well
bold condor
Like, keep in mind
swift kraken
im gonna get beaned...
teal geyser
God's work right there
prisma spade
could you not
swift kraken
Big Sorry
gaunt star
technically as she has Minfilias powers she will be able to travel shards but i doubt they will use her yet
bold condor
The only reason they even introduced the melding thing was to get over the ethical ramifications of one G'raha overtaking another.
Also, Minfilia didn't have the power to travel shards.
gaunt star
quasi zodiac
craggy gale
5.55 will just have a short section where you kidnap ryne
half tendon
yknow i really wasn't expecting a "Just this once, everybody lives" out of this patch but like
limpid flame
But Elidibus :(
half tendon
Area catboy hits ascian so hard he loses ten feet of height
bold condor
I'm just saying we don't kill a lot of characters. I'm not criticising it because they earned it in this patch.
crimson pollen
except Papalymo
bold condor
But it is a fact.
bold condor
Hell, Papalymo doesn't even have a resting place.
limpid flame
Elidibus should have survived, taken over Tataru and be a more useful scion 
craggy gale
Elidibus was always a manlet
bold condor
Not really, since he's blatantly still alive on the Source.
wet crown
So the first spectrals Elidibus summons in Phase 2. One is a black mage, one is a white mage. They used Twincast.
Following me, @bold condor ?
bold condor
Just now together with his past self.
craggy gale
That's why the others were looking down at him
half tendon
Papalymo will save us from Zenos in 6.3
craggy gale
Shorty
gaunt star
Remember to visit Rammbroes for new stuff about the Exarch
bold condor
I'm picking up what you're putting down.
craggy gale
Lil baby man
radiant badger
Idk he lookin' pretty dead to me
wet crown
bold condor
He got better.