endgame-lounge

[paper torrent]

HOW.

[sour solstice]

through bulwark and tbn

so

[paper torrent]

he's a fucking DRK.

HOW.

is he like

340 ilevel?

[sour solstice]

it was more like 5k

hes 345

[paper torrent]

the fuck

[sour solstice]

lemme double check

[paper torrent]

also he can DM that

[sour solstice]

it was 1500

I think he might not've bulwarked

maybe

idk

[paper torrent]

bulwark is a role skill for phys dps

!action bulwark

[storm frost]

**Bulwark** : lvl 46 Gladiator (180 second cooldown)

Increases block rate by 60%.
Duration: 15s

[paper torrent]

oh no wait it's a pld cd

i'm retarded

[sour solstice]

i ment the other one

[paper torrent]

i was thinking pallisade

[sour solstice]

meant*

rampart

[paper torrent]

hmmm

i would save rampart

for o shit moments

tb should not be an oshit moment

DADM works very well there

[wet stag]

um

[paper torrent]

DM + TBN should honestly be more than enough tho

[wet stag]

saving rampart for oh shit moments is a bit

[paper torrent]

also why the fuck is he so low ilevel

[sour solstice]

im341nobully

[paper torrent]

ehhhhh...

i mean if you have vit melds

and food it's not that terrible

[sour solstice]

I never had hp problems

vit

[paper torrent]

i would save rampart for prey anyway

in my limited drk experience of o5s memes

[sour solstice]

alright

ill grab the yellow tome wep next week

and try again

[paper torrent]

imo i think your tanks are shit that run too

your warrior is fine

but holy shit that drk is some MonkaS tier shit

[sour solstice]

yeah hes an irl friend

I keep telling him to go to the balance

[paper torrent]

like Faye said you shouldn't save rampart for o shit moments but this is prog so

[sour solstice]

but he doesnt take criticism that well

[paper torrent]

now i'm not saying to be a dick and ditch him

i'm just saying

he's got a bad mentality for savage

savage is all about self improvement

sometimes it also means compromise

and not getting greedy

tank especially have to be open to criticism because of what happens

o5s hits REALLY hard.

if you pop cds too late chances are you're freaking dead

!action dark mind

[storm frost]

**Dark Mind** : lvl 42 Dark Knight (60 second cooldown)

Reduces magic vulnerability by 15%.
Can only be executed when succumbing to the Darkside.
Duration: 10s Dark Arts Effect: Increases magic vulnerability reduction to 30%
Dark Arts fades upon execution.

[paper torrent]

10 seconds is a pretty decent amount of time

plus this thing has a 60 second cooldown, it's up for a decent amount of time

doom strike is magical, so there's no reason not to use this

[sour solstice]

he apparently used it for head on

[paper torrent]

head on is physical

so... yeah

i made that mistake too but the opposite way around, i thought doomstrike was physical

learned that the hard way real quick

DM does nothing for head on

so you should always save it for the tank buster

same thing with TBN as well

as you learn the fight you kinda have a timeline of what mechs are coming up

[lucid karma]

headon doesn't hit that hard assuming DPS at least use feint

[sour solstice]

whats the timer

for O5s

uhm

is it normal

for AAs to be the majority of a NIN's dps

Just looking through these

his highest damage skill was Auto attacks at 20%

that sounds wrong to me

[torn kindle]

uhhh, iunno NIN. maybe look at other ninja parses and see their damage spread?

[lucid karma]

NIN AA shouldn't be that high

even bad parses have AA around 16-17%

[sour solstice]

ah

well

if you look at the logs I posted above

Primal pf

[lucid karma]

one TCJ whole fight

LOL

[torn kindle]

Only one use of Hellfrog

They're massively overcapping on whatever the NIN gauge is

and only 3 uses of armor crush???

[sour solstice]

Yeah

[lucid karma]

nani

[sour solstice]

our NIN and BLM were uh

extra dumb

[torn kindle]

I haven't played NIN since HW but I'm pretty sure you don't use Huton more than once per fight

unless their is a massive amount of downtime

[sour solstice]

5 fouls

[torn kindle]

UNACCEPTABLE

Foul is every 30 seconds

[lucid karma]

nah even lots of down time you want to overcap huton

plan ahead

[torn kindle]

but only three uses of armor crush?

[lucid karma]

yeap that's extra bad

[torn kindle]

wait a second

the only ninjutsus they used

were suiton and huton

[lucid karma]

[torn kindle]

I don't even want to look at the BLM

[sour solstice]

do it

embrace the 2k

[torn kindle]

WHAT

[lucid karma]

you know what I think whole fight is just WAR carry

[torn kindle]

I can already see them using F3 way too much

[sour solstice]

He tried his hardest

But

PF

plus im an awful healer and it was my first time so lul

[torn kindle]

BLM shouldn't be using F3 to refresh af stacks

that's F1's job

[sour solstice]

I was partied with RDM and DRK

[torn kindle]

hell they have awful usage of F4

The BLM has a solid minute of not casting anything????????????????

[sour solstice]

he was dead

[torn kindle]

did they go into cart or something

oh

[sour solstice]

but I can tell you

it wasn't for 60 second

s

[lucid karma]

talk about O5S

my run almost wipe at 1%

because tanks have brainfart

and dead at the same time

[torn kindle]

this was pf?

[sour solstice]

roast the RDM

and I'll pass the roasting to him

[torn kindle]

ok i play rdm a fair bit

[lucid karma]

I dunno m8 I think RDM had better than the rest except WAR and BRD

[sour solstice]

I mean yeah

[torn kindle]

yeah the RDM looks decent so far

and it's hard to see stuff about the gauge

[lucid karma]

look at cast per minute

then compared to the rest

[torn kindle]

how would i see that?

[lucid karma]

wait I mean active time

not CPM

[sour solstice]

holy shit

im awful

[torn kindle]

hi awful im dad

[sour solstice]

68 casts in 7 minutes

[lucid karma]

I'm by no mean good, but I have 95% active time in O5S

you should aim to reach 90%

[sour solstice]

that was my first run to be fair

so i was panicing a little

[lucid karma]

yep I understand

[torn kindle]

Virshy, where do I see average casts per minute?

[sour solstice]

my second had 100

you do math

thats how

[lucid karma]

"Casts" tab

[torn kindle]

math too hard

[lucid karma]

look at active time

CPM is different on each class

[torn kindle]

One thing I can say is that the RDM should use Swiftcast more

since it lets you avoid using Jolt II

doing Swiftcast > VerAero or VerThunder

[lucid karma]

I think very first swiftcast used after opener

[torn kindle]

Yeah I'm just saying since it's only 3 uses in 7 minutes or so

[lucid karma]

accel > hardcast aero/thunder > aero/thunder > swift > aero/thun > proc

[torn kindle]

the rdm should be using manafication more

only one use

and it wasn't even in opener 😢

[lucid karma]

lol looking back my first clear is horrible

8 percentile

[sour solstice]

at least you aren't mr. 7% AST parse

who I think is up to 20 now

[lucid karma]

!whologs @lucid karma

[storm frost]

Virsh Vauxhalmers of Tonberry

FFLogs Data (Damage)

**Phantom Train (Savage)**

Ninja: (2466/7955) [4970.53 DPS] [70.1 Historical] [8:46]

**Demon Chadarnook (Savage)**

Ninja: (4001/7696) [5297.77 DPS] [48.8 Historical] [9:30]

Best historical percentile, dps, and time are displayed individually from each other and are not necessarily from the same parse.

[sour solstice]

but yeah I need to work on my HoT and DoT uptimes

[lucid karma]

I still need a lot to improve on O6S

[sour solstice]

as well as just you know

fucking casting

[paper torrent]

holy fuck

4.9k?

god bless

[sour solstice]

dasd a good nin parse

[paper torrent]

you're the pug hero

we don't deserve

[lucid karma]

I want to kill myself every time I PUG O7S

"clear party" my ass

can't even get past virus

[paper torrent]

everyone complains about class meta or whatever

nah man

static the real meta

[lucid karma]

yep

also with good ppl too

not just "I'm heal to spam medica2"

why tho

[thorn bear]

a static would make life so ez

omg

[torn kindle]

PF WHM: “If I stop spamming Cure II I’ll die.”

[sour solstice]

OW

[thorn bear]

had some o8s where the sam and drg would just randomly die to mechs

[sour solstice]

MY MP

IT HURTS

[paper torrent]

it's like people in fucking ex byakko

[lucid karma]

PF WHM is fucking weird

spam cure

[torn kindle]

Oof owie ouch

[lucid karma]

but where the fuck is my regen

[torn kindle]

My mp

Praise the holy church of regen

[lucid karma]

also being at least functional WHM in pug can be cursed

[torn kindle]

“Just fucking use it” -The holy hymn

[lucid karma]

your co-healer will expect you to cover their ass

[paper torrent]

they just don't know how to go to a fucking ocrner

[sour solstice]

TBH part of me wants to just tell my cohealer to dps the boss

next time I do O5s

[torn kindle]

We need more markers for PF

[sour solstice]

just to see if I can pull it off

[torn kindle]

Give us the rest of the alphabet and 3-100

[sour solstice]

good fuckin luck lmao

what kinda menu

[paper torrent]

you could just type in custom shit

[lucid karma]

D A B

[torn kindle]

you can do DAB and AIDS

using the 2 as a makeshift S

[lucid karma]

A1D2

[torn kindle]

There’s also BAD

“If you don’t know where to go head to BAD”

[sour solstice]

or C I D for castrum off mainstory roulette

[fading shoal]

So how much exactly does a crit/dhit increase a hit by?

[lucid karma]

direct hit is +25% damage, but DH rate only affects DH chance
Crit rate scales both crit chance and damage

crit gives more damage bonus than DH for sure

but also occurs less frequent assuming DH and crit rate both at base value

[fading shoal]

So at what amount of crit would a kaitend crit/dhit midare from sam would rival a melee dps lb1?

[lucid karma]

hard to say

LB1 scales with party ilvl

also I am no good with math

[sour solstice]

Ill run some math tommorow

Idk crit calcs tho

[scenic patrol]

Crits are currently at 1.59 multiplier at the current tier

Which is around 2500 crit

Don't remember the crit rate

[maiden iris]

So basically BL and CS are OP as it stands 😛

[desert flame]

hey guys, i'm a returning player from 4.1 and i'm wondering how do i gear up now? i'm at ilvl333 and maxed out my mendacity and sigmascape normal for the week

i've got a bunch of 320 accs on the right side that probably need replacing

[plain axle]

Accessories are probably the worst to need to upgrade. For stuff you can farm you only have i340 upgraded creation/O1S accs and i350 crafted.

[lyric summit]

creation's uncapped so you can farm a full set of i330 gear, and rabanastre coins are uncapped as well, so you can grind them to upgrade everything to i340, cap mendacity every week for i360s and upgrade them 1 piece/week when 4.3 comes out with a new 24man

[polar atlas]

Can get i355? weapon from byakko ex once you're at 340 avg

[desert flame]

alright that sounds like a plan, thanks!

that's a lot of rabanastre runs lol

[lyric summit]

you'll need coins from both 24mans to exchange for gear upgrades in 4.3 so might as well get 10 in advance

[sour solstice]

alternatively

Eureka works

but

[polar atlas]

do one way for one class and eureka for another

[spring dock]

what gear do people use for ucob?

[polar atlas]

the best they can get, I'd imagine

think it syncs down to i340, but higher gear will keep more substats, so...

[dull radish]

they sync to i345, but mm

340 accessories since you can meld VIT, otherwise going higher ilvl for left side is usually pretty solid idea

but it's not a big deal either way, just getting that extra VIT from accessories is real nice

[spring dock]

yeah I was thinking as tank I'll need vit

for pld

[dull radish]

oh, well tank is a bit different in that regard, but probably still good to go with your old crafted stuff if you have it for accessories

since you'll still get all those melds

[spring dock]

hm

alright

thanks

so for accessories it's 320 + 340 choker?

but for left side

idk how ilvl sync works

[dull radish]

mmm it's basically like

on a given piece of gear, for that ilvl you have a max of secondaries (like how the higher secondary is capped and the other one you can meld some, but sometimes hit cap). A synced piece of gear gets synced down by each secondary stat, to the cap in that piece of gear

though, it does completely remove the effects of melds, as well, when it gets synced

[spring dock]

hmm

so I want 340

if I'm understanding that right

[polar atlas]

you want 340 if you want melds on that piece, otherwise you want the highest ilvl you can get to maximize secondary stats

[spring dock]

I see

[dull radish]

345 eureka gear is actually pretty decent idea if you feel up for it, as well

[woeful prawn]

you lose STR VI meld ouch

[dull radish]

since it doesn't sync down

[spring dock]

ah I already have 350 eureka

hm

[dull radish]

you can always purchase 345 still

[spring dock]

oh neat

that's that sorted then

great

[stable basin]

I'm starting to think I should host O1S runs for returning players

It seems to be the most efficient of the farmable ones as long as things go well, and the mechanics are not particularly vexing

Raba takes 3-4 times as long even when it's going well and you only get one upgrade from it (plus need to farm 375 creation for each)

Crafted can be very expensive depending on server

It's probably not even all that cheap on Balmung, especially given that actually accumulating money on Balmung has got to be pretty hard because of the very fact of the markets being cheaper

unless you get a lot of big fixed payouts like 7th room Uznair

or ... hah that's probably part of why Balmung loves Eureka so much

demimateria don't care that your market board is cheap af and makes it hard to make money off anything

[vital cypress]

5?

[stable basin]

nope, I meant Delta

fast farms for 340 accessories, since 350+ are weekly locked or expensive and Creation are slow to farm

[dull radish]

creation is pretty quick to farm

the upgrade items are a bit annoying but eh, you can do hunts for those too, or otherwise just use the i330 until you can get the i350+

it's not really a big deal

[paper torrent]

Turns out roulettes are op

And shit creation at 70

[dull radish]

mhmm

[paper torrent]

Also raba does too

And you need at least a clear to unlock the new 24 man

[vital cypress]

creation is good

[paper torrent]

Heck new bonus itself shits out creation even more

[vital cypress]

because you can turn capped creation into ~500-600,000 gil

[paper torrent]

With aite rote carries too you have to have somewhat knowledgeable tanks

Cause of clamp and shit

I don't doubt it's possible but you would defintely need at least a tank that knows how to do shit and probably a healer too

[stable basin]

wow i wonder what i could get for it on siren estelle

[warm valve]

How do u turn creation into Gil?

[stable basin]

since i'm assuming that's 500-600k gil on Balmung where shit is cheap

you buy mats from enna and sell them on the mb

mats which, I should note, all the ingots etc. for the 4.2 legendary mats need

Speaking of mats, today on "Why We Flip Tables"

[pastel portal]

[scenic patrol]

after wiping to Kefaust for 5 pulls

and we are on Godka prog

more like 8 pulls

Lol, he's the raid lead

We all fucked around

Static got tilted

And people started making mistakes that cost us 1 hour of Godka prog

But oh well

We are progging Forsaken 3 now

So hopefully next reset we'll see Enrage

[vital cypress]

rip

[sour solstice]

I would if I had the iLvl

[heavy mist]

if i was on primal id help

@scenic patrol gl.

[scenic patrol]

Eh, I am already done for this reset

Not going to bother with pugging

[pure yoke]

Hi

[heavy mist]

hi

[pure yoke]

feels dead man

[last geode]

are trex horns tradable?

or vendor trash once you got one mount?

[real lance]

vendor trash

its like the barding

the only thing that can be tradeable are the clothes and the minions

[last geode]

😦

ok

[sterile geyser]

is there a good resource for finding out what exactly I would need to buy to levekit my way to 70 FSH? i cannot be bothered to level it the normal way >_>

[stable basin]

https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/wiki/Fisher_Levequests

Pretty much just check MB in each bracket and see what's cheapest

Not that any of them are likely to be cheap, this is siren where I regularly have to pay 60k for one leve if friends aren't on to make me the item lol

[spice comet]

https://www.ffxivguild.com/ff14-fishing-fisher-leveling-guide-a-realm-reborn/

I personally like this guide works well for crafting too

[sterile geyser]

cool, I'll take a look

yeah siren.... thats why im trying to level this. paying for octopus is too expensive xD

[spice comet]

Its for either 1-50 or 60 then i have another guide for 70

Octopus is a pain either way make cider its the cheaper option

[sterile geyser]

whys it a pain?

[spice comet]

Rng

Ur playing with maybe ill get it cause its fishing

And maybe ur lucky get 10 one hr then 0 the next

[sterile geyser]

true.... but itd be something to do while im working i guess... aside from eureka lol

[stable basin]

eureka for some reason never gets old

just pressed a panini and lamented how it seems like people don't even heal anymore

except for the MT anyway

they pretty much just let people die and rez them, which means no wonder Zuzu fights take so long lately because everyone's got weakness LOL

tbh we really need to start dong mechs/healing properly on zuzu, because before long you are probably going to have to do it with one or two parties

(and you'll probably still have to do it, because friends who didn't get into Eureka already will still need their Zuzu kills for their Anemos weapons)

[sterile geyser]

zuzu has mechanics?

😄

aside from the cleave tankbuster, everything else he throws is easily mitigated with a shelltron for me. even if i dont get any heals, my giant piles of expedition potions work fine

obv not the same for non tanks but yeah

[stable basin]

in/out for cloud/plague (this can be mitigated but you still need like, 21k+ HP even with 5 wind), figuring out where the fuck gale cannon is going (probably will be easier with 8/16, though)

adds management too, though

that's going to come to the forefront with smaller groups

it's kind of like WoW heroic raids, where the boss HP scales down to a minimum raid size but the mechanics don't

[sterile geyser]

oh i didnt know his hp scaled

[stable basin]

all NMs' HP scales

I think it might even scale all the way down to solo, but at least down to a single party

unlike Diadem

where some mobs still require you to luck into multiple present parties even now

[unreal flax]

I would be utterly furious if I was in an instance in which someone solo'd Paz.

I'd actually be more mad than impressed.

[stable basin]

Probably won't happen.

As I noted, it's probably numerically but not tactically possible

[unreal flax]

Right

[stable basin]

think soloing T7 on steroids, heh

(last time I tried to do that, I was doing okay with the mechs but dogpiled by too many adds)

even with 8 Paz will be a pain because for starters you practically are going to have to have three tanks

gut feeling is that you won't be able to have the OT take both adds without melting, especially since they have different elements

[wet stag]

im a big boi now

[unreal lance]

What is a big boi

[wet stag]

cleared o8s

[unreal lance]

Gz

[dull radish]

nice <3

[wet stag]

ty

[unreal lance]

I'm too busy being burned to raid rn ;.;

[wet stag]

diamond greatsword pls drop next week tyvm

[unreal lance]

Deep dungeon should be good though, if it's the quality of floor 170-200

[paper torrent]

Grats Fae

[steep iris]

diamond cane/sextant pls drop for me

🙏

[unreal lance]

Sextant reminds me of path of exile

[stable basin]

Sextants make me think of the old Ultima games, particularly IV through VII

You had to get one to know your coordinates, and in V in particular it actually did only work at night

[pure yoke]

Grats

[sour solstice]

Grats faye

[stable basin]

hey friendos, what's the dealio with not having loot priority for your class in PUG raids anymore?

did they remove the loot priority but also remove the one-item-per-week limit?

[torn kindle]

what do you mean loot priority?

[stable basin]

someone told me he's angery that they removed loot priority for your class in PUG raids

as in if a caster piece drops, anyone can roll need

not just casters

[torn kindle]

ooooh, they're talking about the next 24-man
and how it will be greed-only.

[stable basin]

ooooh ok

[limpid ocean]

didn't they say they're applying that to all 24-mans

[torn kindle]

i don't know if i heard that

[steady pebble]

I don't recall them say it is

[torn kindle]

but it'd make a bit of sense to have that

instead of it literally only being in one 24-man

[limpid ocean]

I will be very pleased if I'm proven wrong but I swear I read it somewhere

"We’re planning to set the loot rule for all alliance raids to “Greed Only” starting in Patch 4.3." from the LL thread

[steady pebble]

Hrm

[stable basin]

what's the benefits of greed-only compared to loot priority for classes?

[sour solstice]

None.

[steady pebble]

it panders to whining bitches

who don't want to play the class to get the gear

[limpid ocean]

undergeared drg better think long and hard before greeding for that healer gear for a level 12 cnj :^)

[steady pebble]

I mean, people are going to be stingy with their roles anyway

[stable basin]

so is it still one-item-per-week limit for newly released raids?

[steady pebble]

They always are with lockouts

yes

that is not changing

[limpid ocean]

would it actually kill to add a gear exchange instead of relying on praying for loot drops

[boreal edge]

https://scontent.fjed6-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/31531711_10216131099013951_4680338966119972864_o.jpg?_nc_cat=0&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&oh=725dde23e5201bff17432992e8f40108&oe=5B59DC2B

[sour solstice]

Are raba wait times always this awful

[limpid ocean]

I wish they weren't

feels like not a lot of people playing right now though

[paper torrent]

There isn't

[sour solstice]

15 minutes and im at 2/3 2/6 4/15

[stable basin]

and a lot of the people are active are probably ones on social servers that don't raid as much

[paper torrent]

Most people are waiting fof 4.3. Now

And most people don't care about raba anymore

[sour solstice]

Guess im going to Eureka then

Kill me

[stable basin]

Also my friends and I have started a new FC recently so right now my focus has largely been on farming mats for the airship and sub

but that's just me, one player

[sour solstice]

fuck it theres a savage group up

im goin in

[steady pebble]

GL

[paper torrent]

Don't forget your ogcds

Vit right side

[steep iris]

meld vit and piety only

heh

[stable basin]

I never meld vit

so I'm always surprised when I see people with way more HP than I have and I'm like "shit did they farm savage when I wasn't looking" and then I realize they just have vit melds

like friends who I didn't even know raided lol

[rustic lichen]

Anyone here play SCH /AST?

[stable basin]

Dos Equis voice I don't usually heal, but when I do, it's on SCH

also can we take dupes to byakko yet without people getting salty?

[rustic lichen]

Just wondering how to get onto the habit of consistent shielding cause most of the Time I feel like I'm too early or swiftcasting Aoe shields

And no, not yet

[torn kindle]

part of doing shields right is knowing the timeline of the fight

[stable basin]

Eh. My usual philosophy on healing is "are people dying for reasons that don't involve derping mechanics? no? I'm okay."

[torn kindle]

since fights are scripted you can remember when to do shielding unless people do an unexpected DPS push

[paper torrent]

More so if they randomly eat shit

Like dps who stand in saintly

OOF

[rustic lichen]

I don't plan on doin Savage, but like casual 8 man content like ex at best

But thanks, that helps

[paper torrent]

Also you have two dots as sch

Keep those up

[rustic lichen]

I know how to dps but I feel I get way too greedy

[paper torrent]

Also if you get put on tiger healing duty

[rustic lichen]

Esp in sch

[paper torrent]

Excog and fairy union are op

[rustic lichen]

99% of the time it's like "Can I cast another Broil before I gotta heal..."

[paper torrent]

The swipes from hakutei often occur enough that fey union will do wonders

[rustic lichen]

And yeah, I'm using the tether more lately but I hate how eos takes forever

[paper torrent]

If the tiger jumps and PLD uses HG for it

[woeful prawn]

learning to sch you just succor everything

[paper torrent]

You have even less work to do

[woeful prawn]

then you indom succors you used to do

and then you energy drain instead of those indoms

[rustic lichen]

Usually the thing I do is energy drain once or twice to keep an indom or Lustrate spam handy if I have a decent idea of outgoing damage

[sour solstice]

PF: savage strikes again

[rustic lichen]

If I sit on one too long I ED within 10s left on aetherflow

I've been trying Chardanook for a stupid bolt and so far it's been okay but people keep getting vuln stacks

[paper torrent]

vuln stacks

chad

They're afk

Dw about them let them stay on floor

[sour solstice]

whats the enrage timer on train

[stable basin]

10:10 I believe

[sour solstice]

oh boy

do I got a good one for you guys

https://www.fflogs.com/reports/4gKmLHMhYQZ9W6Bj/

heres the new episode of my savage journey

my casts are way too low on all of these holy shit

[scenic patrol]

So you did kill Choo Choo

Grats

[sour solstice]

Nope

thats normal

I didnt kill savage

[torn kindle]

i think im looking at your recent log and holy shit the drg

They only used Full Thrust twice

[sour solstice]

Welcome to Primal PF

[steady pebble]

we're casual fucks ok

leave us alone

[sour solstice]

Look at it Kael

Im no better

but gods

its awful

[torn kindle]

Used Nastrond Twice

[steady pebble]

i mean i could look at it

but it's basically greek to me

also probably better than what i do so

[sour solstice]

I dont know man

71 casts in 6:41 is pretty out of me

[steady pebble]

if you want i can link some of the random parses that have been uploaded with me in it and you'll feel better, i bet

[sour solstice]

In case you were curious as to why that exact time

[pure yoke]

ur a random parse

[steady pebble]

thank you, mug

[sour solstice]

its because we wiped to the stack of the laser and the knockback ghost both times

But I basically showed 0 improvement between sunday and today

I felt like I did better but

😦

[steady pebble]

just keep going at it, yalia

[sour solstice]

I really wish they would add something like Heroic in WoW

thats hard but not OOF hard

Because the jump between O8n and O5s is just insane

[pure yoke]

you can consider EX primal that

[sour solstice]

Fair enough

I havent done Byakko yet

but thats only one fight as opposed to a whole raid basically

I guess im pretty tired today as well

so that probably has something to do with it

[scenic patrol]

Byakko is easier

Only watch out for the OT buster on Tiger

That shit hurts

[sour solstice]

I tried joining a Byakko today but couldnt because "no dupes"

[scenic patrol]

That's due to the tank LB3 strat

Which should be dead now

Tbh

[steady pebble]

HA

thinking pugs are going to let such a thing die

[scenic patrol]

Skip soar or disband

[steady pebble]

that basically lived until stormblood

and continues to live

[scenic patrol]

Man, Zurvan was the epitome of PF memes

[steady pebble]

fking community can't even achieve average raid dps

smh

[scenic patrol]

I hadn't entered the raiding scene yet though

Sadly

[sour solstice]

5 regen casts

wow

[scenic patrol]

High regen uptime doesn't necessarily mean correct GCD usage

[sour solstice]

But 5

is pretty bad

[pure yoke]

could end up with alot of overheal with regen

if done improperly

[scenic patrol]

Regen is a weird case though

There's some cases you want it to be cast

[sour solstice]

Tanks werent really dying to anything but mechanics tho

[scenic patrol]

Like during Conva

[sour solstice]

So I guess its not that bad

We always had at least 1 death during the add phase

[dull radish]

yeah regens don't often have quite as much value in 5

since most damage is just mechanics based

[sour solstice]

because they'd get 1 shot because tanks werent fast enough

[dull radish]

and fairy can heal up a lot of things

or indom etc

[sour solstice]

it was double WHM

[pure yoke]

hi rika

[dull radish]

heya

[pure yoke]

I became a full degen

I got to experience o5s pad

[dull radish]

nice, how'd it go?

[pure yoke]

7.9k dps

[sour solstice]

But yeah I think I just need to be awake

[heavy mist]

spicy

[dull radish]

indeed

[sour solstice]

and not die to fuckin knockback

[pure yoke]

https://puu.sh/Addv6/a4aa0a4e0c.png

during adds

[scenic patrol]

That's lower than what I expect out of a pad

[heavy mist]

he got 7.9k in the end

[scenic patrol]

Also have the PLD grab adds

[dull radish]

someday I'll beat my best from nearly 2 months ago

[pure yoke]

https://puu.sh/AdxUM/6a77a09195.png

[scenic patrol]

!charlogs Ragnarok Raffter Senpai

[storm frost]

Raffter Senpai of Ragnarok

FFLogs Data (Damage)

**Phantom Train (Savage)**

Dark Knight: (42/5760) [4260.45 DPS] [99.5 Historical] [7:08]
Warrior: (1/11997) [7027.51 DPS] [100 Historical] [5:35]

**Demon Chadarnook (Savage)**

Warrior: (3/11314) [5435.77 DPS] [100 Historical] [6:21]
Dark Knight: (10/5811) [5024.47 DPS] [100 Historical] [6:46]
White Mage: (1554/12953) [2534.64 DPS] [88.0 Historical] [9:12]

**Guardian (Savage)**

Warrior: (86/8284) [4663.93 DPS] [99.5 Historical] [8:13]
Dark Knight: (75/3456) [4302.69 DPS] [99.1 Historical] [8:57]

**Kefka (Savage)**

Dark Knight: (16/2431) [4169.89 DPS] [100.0 Historical] [5:39]
Warrior: (36/6323) [4566.03 DPS] [99.5 Historical] [5:30]

**God Kefka (Savage)**

Warrior: (8/4335) [5058.27 DPS] [99.8 Historical] [8:08]
Dark Knight: (35/1593) [4554.24 DPS] [98.7 Historical] [8:20]

Best historical percentile, dps, and time are displayed individually from each other and are not necessarily from the same parse.

[dull radish]

don't really care to go all out padding though

[scenic patrol]

Strong pad bois

[heavy mist]

some spicy stuff

13 out of all DPS

ALL

[pure yoke]

I didn't really grind it out

it was 3 pulls

1 kill

and I was done

[heavy mist]

at least u beat Soviet Hammer

🤔

[scenic patrol]

Raffter was like top 50 of all

In O5S

When he did his pad

As a fucking tank

[dull radish]

because most people that go all out padding aren't all that great

[heavy mist]

hes still rank 74

like thats still pretty high 🤔

[pure yoke]

https://puu.sh/AdxZT/fd119240a3.png

padding o5s is the easy way

to get top ten asp

[scenic patrol]

I heard he could add 200 more dps to his pad

[heavy mist]

200

👀

[dull radish]

I wonder where I'm at now from ASP

[pure yoke]

well

[dull radish]

wonder if padding has dropped me below 10 yet

[pure yoke]

people don't tend to grind out o5s pad that much

they just go for a sick parse and be done

[dull radish]

whew just hanging on

[pure yoke]

noice

[dull radish]

people outpadding each other haha

[pure yoke]

when is BLM going to be 590+ exclusive

[dull radish]

was 6 for a while

[pure yoke]

for top ten

DRG gotten pretty crowded

since DRG is like

insanely good at padding

O5S

there is a large disparity in o5s

[dull radish]

yeahh

[heavy mist]

the AOE is too strong

[dull radish]

people have started going holis cube route

[heavy mist]

u lose nothing hitting multiple enemies

👀

[dull radish]

and all the max parses are getting ridiculous haha

[pure yoke]

I don't plan to pad any kill

I am pretty happy that my non padded parse

was only beaten by 6dps

Soviet Hammer's 60% balance run

[heavy mist]

i just need to get purple on God Kefka and im happy....

[dull radish]

now 8.1k haha

oh holis took back that 100 for 6 when they got outpadded, by padding more

[pure yoke]

man

Holis O8S is still undefeated

even after a month

[heavy mist]

god

or normal

[pure yoke]

God

[heavy mist]

oh dang March 2nd

👀

[dull radish]

I just can't seem to get a clear on a decent run haha, especially with AST

AST helps a lot >.>

[heavy mist]

i figure

[dull radish]

can definitely still do a decent bit better than where I'm at now even without AST

[pure yoke]

I had a filthy comp for my o5s pad

[dull radish]

but still

[pure yoke]

Double DRG/BRD/MCH/WAR/PLD/Double AST

[heavy mist]

i still need to keep my uptime on o8s

i played safe for clear 💤

[scenic patrol]

So he tethered you?

[heavy mist]

mm double DRG

👀

[hybrid rapids]

Dragon sight

[heavy mist]

yes good stuff

😋

[scenic patrol]

It's like jerking each other

[pure yoke]

yeah

my Sonic Thrust Direct Crit for

13k lol

an aoe

[dull radish]

mmm I don't really wanna pad, I think god kefka is where I have the most room for getting more ASP without it

kinda annoying since we're 7/8 though

[pure yoke]

I don't need to pad any other fight

I just need a clean guardian

I should be clear for top 3 drg

asp wise

[dull radish]

I had a pretty decent 7

[pure yoke]

mines could easily be

[dull radish]

my 6 was so bad but somehow turned out alright, can do so much more haha

[pure yoke]

200 to 300 dps higher

[dull radish]

this is where I'm at for ASP

[pure yoke]

https://puu.sh/AdymC/b550aee146.png

me right now

[dull radish]

there's so much balance above me haha

[pure yoke]

:p

that moment when 6.9k dps is only 114asp

[dull radish]

yeah

[heavy mist]

so like o6s/o7s/o8s are good fights to like see normal dps right

?

[dull radish]

like I'm pretty sure it wouldn't be too bad to get it up to 7.1k even without AST, with a solid run

I just wanna join the 7k club

it's not even that bad

[pure yoke]

hey Rika, want to know something funny

my boss damage asp is still 1 ASP higher

than my pad run

asp

[dull radish]

nice

[pure yoke]

Boss Damage in O5S is literally

"You speedrun"

you can't get a great boss damage with pad run

[dull radish]

my boss damage ASP for 5 compared to overall ASP is dumb haha

115.3 overall, 118.2 boss damage

[pure yoke]

I am 118.7 overall, 119.7 boss

[dull radish]

same run, by the way

[pure yoke]

damn boi

[dull radish]

also without AST >.> that could have been so good haha

[pure yoke]

I am sure Primal has AST ready to pad

[dull radish]

probably

I'm sure I could probably get a decent one with my static if I wanted it, but don't really wanna bother until we get full group again

which who knows how long that'll be haha

[pure yoke]

also Aya Liz posted this yesterday

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/289293416494530561/318818632736178178/f5fb646cd3df125e7dca5389e180495e.png

[dull radish]

that brings back memories

[hybrid rapids]

Mimi 👀

[heavy mist]

wow

👀

[unreal flax]

Wow, those days

great days

That's like... galaxy brain in exactly the wrong way

[sullen sable]

[kindred bison]

About how much % do you have to do between each of Kefka’s jumps in God Kefka to comfortably beat enrage?

Ping me if you answer cause my phone will probably close the app

Errr

[blazing pelican]

@kindred bison if you aren't at 70% before 3rd Graven you're probably not going to kill it

[kindred bison]

Not God Kefka

Just Kefka Savage

[sour solstice]

Kefaust

[blazing pelican]

Kekfaust

[paper torrent]

Rektfaust

[blazing pelican]

Breakfaust

[kindred bison]

So 80% for 2nd Graven is about reccomended then?

[blazing pelican]

Yeah

[kindred bison]

Okay my group should be fine

[blazing pelican]

You should be knocking around 10% off per phase

[kindred bison]

We’re generally like 79.5% on 2nd Graven

Just failing mechanics is wiping us

[blazing pelican]

If you aren't at 90 after first phase, someone isn't doing an opener

[kindred bison]

So we’re fine in the DPS department

[blazing pelican]

Kefka is easy tho

And there's a billion ways to do 2nd Graven

[sullen sable]

If you're getting him down 10% every graven cast, you're on pace

[pure yoke]

hi Virsath

[rapid grove]

For Forsaken 3

I usually run with pugs

The part after seduce, 4 ppl are suppose to be at the south circle, while double wings hit

Where are the healers suppose to stand?

The tank keeps clipping the healers us orz

[scenic patrol]

Tanks should be at one of the towers, healers on the other tower

[woeful prawn]

its either all dps in the circle or all ranged (ranged+healers) in that circle

stand extremely close to the circle close to boss

tank should fuck off northish with his far wings buster

[last geode]

I was thinking about a more interesting raid boss yesterday and I remembered another MMO i used to play which had 2 bosses in one fight

is there anything like this in FFXIV?

not adds

but 2 bosses in one fight

MT on one boss and OT on another

[scenic patrol]

Ucob

3 bosses

In total

[last geode]

besides ucob

[paper torrent]

besdies ucob

what do you want

fucking the two nue's

in hell's lid?

[last geode]

lol

[paper torrent]

kappa

[last geode]

just wondering if there is any fight in game

besides ucob

that has that

[paper torrent]

so you mean, a fight accessible to shitters

[last geode]

and you have to tank swap between both bosses and kill at same time

yes

or just pugs in general

i cant access ucob

[scenic patrol]

Adds

[last geode]

unless you can unlock it without doing o4s

[paper torrent]

what about midas savage

[last geode]

midas?

[paper torrent]

wait no i remebering shit wrong

[torn kindle]

The closest thing that had two bosses was A1

But the bosses were literal copies of each other

so idk if that counts

[last geode]

i know that none of you have ever played SWTOR before or even raided in there so here is an image of what im talking about

[paper torrent]

yeah that's wha ti was thinking

[paper torrent]

but i though tit waw misdsa

it was gordias

[torn kindle]

Yeah the only fitting fight would really be the first boss of Alexander

[last geode]

ok

more bosses with this kind of mechanic would be awesome

great for tanks

[torn kindle]

and the second boss of the fight doesn't come out until like halfway through

[last geode]

yea im saying 2 bosses at once

[paper torrent]

faust did have two bosses at once iirc

but they were like two mini bosses rather than each having their own mechs

otherwise people would lose their damn minds

[last geode]

hahaha

[paper torrent]

this game just doesn't lend itself well to that format

!action shirk

[storm frost]

**Shirk** : lvl 48 None (120 second cooldown)

Diverts 25% of enmity to target party member.

[last geode]

damn

[paper torrent]

shit like this and shadewalker

is how we optimize shit anyway

so it becomes super aids for tanks to deal with their own boss, as opposed to building emnity

on a single target

[last geode]

was talking to some guys on the balance not sure if good idea or not

and we were discussing about tank mechanics

and I had a little thought last night about this

[kindred bison]

All I know is I’d be sitting with yellow aggro in the bar as a WHM

Cause living dangerous

[paper torrent]

Don't use lucid

make your tanks do mitigation

and make them aggro combo

one step further BM is to rescue them into you to kill them

./s

[kindred bison]

More less I have to use it

Cause I start running out of mp

[last geode]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbEs0MbRLHA

here's a vid of one boss fight i loved doing

4 bosses + 2 mid phase

😄

[stable basin]

Talking on The Balance can turn out to be a bad idea yes

[wet stag]

its mostly shitposting

i love it

[last geode]

meh

[unique wolf]

do a8s

u fight 4 guys at once

[scenic patrol]

Nadine, you did say some very meme worthy things there

Still pinned in general

[last geode]

damn

that's a quote right there

@unique wolf i wish i could

if it was solo it would be fine for me

[stable basin]

@scenic patrol I still don't even...

[scenic patrol]

Even with 8 people it's still a challenging fight

[stable basin]

How does that quote even make sense?

[scenic patrol]

I dunno

[paper torrent]

i think that's why it's pinned

[unique wolf]

it doesnt

[paper torrent]

'cause it's so big brain

[unique wolf]

theres a reason they are banned

because all that person does is say dumb shit

[stable basin]

Galaxy brain.

[scenic patrol]

The more I know mechanics the higher I parse, the more I know how to cheese them, it's never the opposite

[stable basin]

Mhm.

But hey, it's at least not 'You heal yourself every time you go to defiance.

'for 20k'

[boreal edge]

that was gold one

[paper torrent]

I am going to name my stand up line that

Gold parse comedy

[scenic patrol]

Lmao

[pure yoke]

wait

who is banned

[steady pebble]

nadine, i think?

[pure yoke]

Crimson is too busy stinking up the balance

with his mere existence

[boreal edge]

[stable basin]

@pure yoke How so?

[scenic patrol]

I didn't see him comment there a lot

So far only one and it was promptly ignored

[pure yoke]

I have him blocked

but I still see a wave of Blocked Messages

from time to time

[scenic patrol]

Asking questions in Balance General during certain times is retarded

That channel is just memes, usually

[pure yoke]

Self Proclaimed Good Player

At the request of this character's owner, all parses involving this character have been hidden.

[unique wolf]

havent seen that guy in chay ever so

[pure yoke]

he pops in general from time to time

[unique wolf]

he must be contained in the sam channel

[scenic patrol]

He has some weird names

[paper torrent]

Man SAM isn't already memey enough?

[pure yoke]

I recall Tiff's better discord just straight up deletes blocked people

[stable basin]

also, why is umaru a thing that's popular? I've never seen it.

[pure yoke]

it's anime

[boreal edge]

oh crimson

[paper torrent]

[boreal edge]

i recall him

[pure yoke]

yeah when he was like

[paper torrent]

Umaru is the true endgame

That's why

[pure yoke]

"I got banned for calling WoW lore better than FFXIV lore in the ffxiv reddit discord"

someone bm'd him

with a post of him saying "I am offending sensitive people"

[paper torrent]

I mean a few years ago that would be true

But today? Not even close

[unique wolf]

[steady pebble]

isn't he the guy who just argues for the sake of 'trying to enlighten' but doesn't actually bother giving examples and such

[stable basin]

This sounds like the deepest lore.

[pure yoke]

yes+

[steady pebble]

just links articles and tells people to read?

[pure yoke]

that is exactly who he is

[steady pebble]

yeeahh im glad he's gone

[paper torrent]

G A R U

[steady pebble]

Garu...was a dick

[stable basin]

Wow, that guy sounds so swell...

[steady pebble]

but Crimson is on a whole 'nother level

[stable basin]

The guy that came on here with the chocobo helmet?

That garu?

[paper torrent]

Yes

[steady pebble]

yeah garu's the one who had the chocobo keeper avatar

[paper torrent]

I miss spicy garu memes

[boreal edge]

garu who blisted everyone here except newb and mods?

[pure yoke]

I don't think Garu blacklisted me yet

[paper torrent]

Yes!

[blazing pelican]

I don't think he blacklisted me

[stable basin]

Wow.\

[blazing pelican]

now I feel left out

[scenic patrol]

Probably didn't BL me

I think

I wasn't active enough

[stable basin]

So he's quick to get offended?

[paper torrent]

He BL me the day i met him

It was hate at first sight

[steady pebble]

most infurtiating thing about garu, to me, was him having so many blacklisted that he repeated things said minutes/hours ago

[paper torrent]

😂 👌

[stable basin]

Quality chat person.

[scenic patrol]

[stable basin]

So, about dat endgame? How is godka?

[paper torrent]

Flamboyant

PF memes as always

[boreal edge]

i had weekly 2 chests godka pf

[steady pebble]

what if shittalking ppl is my end game

[boreal edge]

turned out kefaust prog

[blazing pelican]

have you even beaten O7S yet @paper torrent

[paper torrent]

@steady pebble savage is perfect for you my dear

@blazing pelican ha fuck no

[steady pebble]

fk that

[blazing pelican]

XD

[paper torrent]

I already can tell tho

[steady pebble]

i dun need savage to shit talk

[stable basin]

I have. But I only dare do it in @boreal edge 's static.

[paper torrent]

Have you even seen o7s learning runs?

[blazing pelican]

yes

[steady pebble]

best shittalkers don't even do the thing they're shittalking about

[blazing pelican]

I joined one for the hell of it

what

even

is

pf

[paper torrent]

Fucking DPS clip airforce into the party

[boreal edge]

@stable basin you gotta see the gold memes in pf

[paper torrent]

Dps so low they die

[boreal edge]

[blazing pelican]

omg go around the missiles on the way to the add you fuck

[stable basin]

I mean, the gold memes is why I stopped with PF.

it's so horrible.

'

[paper torrent]

Remove PF

[stable basin]

'skip soar or disband'

[torn kindle]

"Dodge the fucking missles"
"healers adjust"

[blazing pelican]

mfw 2 dps die to their adds

[pure yoke]

remember

it's only the tip of the missile that is dangerous

[scenic patrol]

Just the tip

[paper torrent]

Just the tip

Damn it

[stable basin]

you cna rub the shaft as much as you'd like.

[torn kindle]

Just the tip

[pure yoke]

you can literally stick your dick in the missile exhaust

[torn kindle]

^^^

[pure yoke]

and it won't blow up

[scenic patrol]

Lmao

[paper torrent]

This is why johni is a better parser

[junior basin]

...air force adds kill people? Do they have some sort of enrage?

[blazing pelican]

@torn kindle someone tried that and both me and the other healer left immediately after we both read them the riot act

[paper torrent]

Better reaction time

Smh

[torn kindle]

Riot Act?

[paper torrent]

They do more damage over time

[blazing pelican]

basically chewed them out

[paper torrent]

I thoight the riot act

[junior basin]

Ah. Never noticed.

[paper torrent]

Was you tell them how shit they are