questions-and-help

[kind eagle]

thank you for teaching

[twilit arch]

he's at the waterfall area near the lancer's guild

[gloomy ice]

Yeah use divination as soon as possible. As long as you’re using cards on cooldown as well, you’ll hit three seals before divination comes back up. Which is what Lord and Lady are for.

[karmic stump]

thanks!

[gritty oracle]

@kind eagle hmm?

[kind eagle]

cleared e7s

you taught me the teleport

that thing is only the hard part

[gritty oracle]

nice!

[kind eagle]

Wew thankss

[cold cove]

Wait. On Steam I cannot buy Stormblood only Shadowbringers. I should but it from the website?

[twilit arch]

buying it from the site will be no different

stormblood is included with shadowbringers

and if you own the base game on steam, you have to buy thru steam regardless

[cold cove]

Oh so I only buy shadowbringers? Why is that?

[twilit arch]

because stormblood is included with shadowbringers

[glossy flare]

Because they always include the "old" addons into the most recent one. But since they moved Heavensward into the starter edition recently it's a Stormblood + Shadowbringers bundle.

While the starter edition is ARR + Heavensward

[cold cove]

Ohh, nice! Thank you.

[feral gale]

Heyy, Im thinking about getting the game but I was just wondering if its worth playing if you dont have any friends to play with

[mystic yew]

absolutely! you make friends really quickly if you look for them

just by joining a fun fc and chatting there

[feral gale]

what if you're not rlly good at making friends

what if you're not rlly good at making friends
@feral gale ||asking for a friends||

[mystic yew]

even truly playing solo the game is really fun

[open ember]

this game is doable without friends but if you wanna try and make friends i'd say join an fc maybe and run content with them

[eager widget]

the Main Story Quest is good if you’re into Final Fantasy stories and the game does a good job of bringing other people to you when you need a party for content

like duty finder

it can def be done solo if you’re not fond of reaching out to people, but with how friendly the community can be I wouldn’t be surprised if someone reached out to you

[feral gale]

Okayy ^^ thank youuu

Im just bad at making friends so thats why Im asking >.<

[verbal rune]

Is PoD doable trought matched party only?

[twilit arch]

yes

[eager widget]

Same! I started off in the game years back super timid and not outgoing at all, but the game has a way of getting people to interact

Matched goes up to floor 100 and will finish the story for you

[twilit arch]

floor 50 might be a bit of a pain if people are shit at dodging

but 1-100 are intended to be done with a matched party

[eager widget]

101-200 is for fixed only and thats for the challenge, loot, and end prize

[feral gale]

Ill think about getting it thank you everyone 😄

[verbal rune]

Ah, I see

[feral gale]

Does anyone play on the european servers by any chance?

[open ember]

anyone with the red or grey colored name on this server plays on EU

[verbal rune]

Also, since I'm only lvl 33, should I set my skill before hand, even those that I don't have?

[open ember]

jobstone?

[verbal rune]

Dragoon

[open ember]

i mean

you can

but you dont have to

[verbal rune]

I meant for PoD

[open ember]

i'd say its a good idea

i did that for ninja

[twilit arch]

its a good idea to set your hotbars up, even if you don't have those skills yet

because it helps build muscle memory to a degree

[feral gale]

also is there a recommended EU server?

[gloomy ice]

Light data center has what’s considered the unofficial German language server and Chaos data center has the unofficial French server. Other than that there’s not really any one reason to pick one over another.

Some servers have a new character bonus, however, that gives double experience.

[crimson wind]

Is there a way to prevent drifting Reassemble for Drill

[feral gale]

Okayy thank youuu ^^

[twilit arch]

@green grail can probably fact check this, but afaik reassemble is gonna drift no matter what

[crimson wind]

sad

[manic flare]

I thought moogle was the French data center?

[twilit arch]

moogle is a server on the chaos datacenter

which yes, moogle is the unofficial french server

same as shiva, being on light and is the unofficial german server

[manic flare]

Which server do UK people play on?

[open ember]

any eu server

[manic flare]

Which is the biggest uk server?

[open ember]

technically the EU servers primary langauge is english

[manic flare]

Unofficially or officially

[open ember]

uh idk if we have numbers on those

[twilit arch]

afaik there's no notable servers for any other language

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[twilit arch]

EU servers are predominately english regardless

[open ember]

server population doesnt matter THAT much

in the end anyway

[manic flare]

which asia server has the most number of english players?

[open ember]

tonberry

[twilit arch]

Tonberry and Kujata

[manic flare]

is that where the aussies go?

[twilit arch]

yes

[open ember]

elemental DC as a whole has english speaking servers

or english speaking

[twilit arch]

ehh

[open ember]

servers

[twilit arch]

i wouldn't really say that since its specifically tonberry and kujata

english speakers are still quite a minority on elemental

[open ember]

yeah still mostly JP players

ENG players will still have to abide by the "rules" that JP servers have because its very different than western servers

[twilit arch]

tonberry and kujata you have a better chance of finding english speakers, other servers in elemental not so much

[open ember]

the issue is that tonberry is almost always congested so

people just go to Kujata

[manic flare]

what extra rules are in place for japanese servers?

compared to western ones?

[open ember]

well its more like community rules

like

[manic flare]

no ERP?

[open ember]

3-5 wipes = vote abandon

[manic flare]

oh damn

[open ember]

alliance B generally tanks alliance raids

[manic flare]

so japanese servers aren't noob friendly

[open ember]

well they are theyre just. more serious than western servers

if you fuck up apologize

they also use blacklisting quite often

[manic flare]

what

[open ember]

so if you did something wrong

[manic flare]

that sounds extremely toxic

very malignant

[open ember]

they wont say anything they'll just blacklist you after and go on

its not

[manic flare]

what does blacklisting do?

also, i assume they vote kick much more often?

[open ember]

prevents you from being in a party with the player that blacklisted you

[verbal rune]

What do I do with fades copy of songs I get from dungeon?

[manic flare]

how do you know if you've been blacklisted?

[open ember]

you dont

the game wont tell you

[twilit arch]

most of them you can probably toss unless you want to craft them to the full version to use yourself or ask someone to craft for you

[manic flare]

you can sell them on MB right?

[twilit arch]

you could but they're generally not worth much

[open ember]

i dont really remember what other "rules" JP servers have but you can just ask JP players here

[wintry chasm]

JP servers tend to use duty finder a bit for the easier savage raids

afaik

[open ember]

faded copies are generally used for crafting orchestrion rolls but not really worth selling on the MB

since theyre really not hard to get

i personally throw mine away unless i need to make a orchestrion roll

[lone nacelle]

just for discussion and curiosity, on the reverse, what rules are there on the na side?

[verbal rune]

Oh, got it

[open ember]

i dont think there's any here tbh

ex and savages tho.. if you do them in DF its is heavily frowned upon

since its not a common thing NA servers do. that is all done in PF

there's no 'one tank tanks alliance raids' they'll fight for aggro lol

[manic flare]

do people generally not do extreme/savage raids sync'ed?

[hasty musk]

Whoever pulls first is main tank

[slate arrow]

savages aren't in any roulette, extremes are in mentor roulette but most mentors will usually ends up pissed off if you do get a queue

[hasty musk]

Only current ones

[manic flare]

i told people that i just got ramuh extreme sync'ed in duty finder and they all said they felt bad for me

[open ember]

because only mentors can get EX in roulette and most sprouts do not listen when they explain stuff so they just want to avoid everything altogether

when i get ramuh ex in mentor roulette, sprouts almost always never listen to my explainations

so i end up giving up

[lone nacelle]

dont people feel bad jumping into hard stuff blind and dragging the team down

[manic flare]

tbh, i think there should be a dungeon/trial requirement to participate in extreme trials sync'ed

i did the ramuh one, and after 80 minutes we just gave up

cuz two guys just refused to listen to the guy who knew what was going on

[lone nacelle]

my queues for synced ex arent long on my server so i would say people do them @manic flare

i guess it would depend on dc

[open ember]

this is turning into a discussion rather than a question so the answer is NA is generally very strict on things they want to see in DF

[twilit arch]

most people on NA/EU just dont want to deal with having to do old ex's sync'd

especially when its easier and quicker to do them unsync

with all your skills

[manic flare]

what's this?

the green circle thing

[twilit arch]

that's ninja's doton

!action Doton

[zinc orbit]

**Doton** : lvl 45 NIN (1.5 second cooldown)(Instant cast time)

Creates a patch of corrupted earth, dealing damage with a potency of 100 to any enemies who enter.
Duration: 24s
Additional Effect: Heavy +40%
Mudra Combination: Ten→Jin→Chi or Jin→Ten→Chi
Triggers the cooldown of weaponskills, mudra, and Ninjutsu upon execution.

※This action cannot be assigned to a hotbar.

Powered by XIVAPI

[manic flare]

how do you loop an emote?

[verbal rune]

So, you the only way to unlock crafters tomes and script, is to get to lvl 50 first?

[eager widget]

yep, crafter tomes 1 and 2 require you to HQ a fairly easy recipe once you either get gear or blast it at lv60, and tomes 3-8 can be bought with scrips

[tacit atlas]

@manic flare the only way to "loop" emotes that don't loop naturally is to make a macro that executes the emote every few seconds

[mossy tartan]

Is it possible to upgrade a squadron member’s job to the next one? (Conjurer -> WHM, etc)

[twilit arch]

no

[tacit atlas]

Nope

[mossy tartan]

ok

[manic flare]

Is there a gameplay reason why you can't?

[tacit atlas]

Loop endlessly every emote you mean?

Most of the emotes that you can't loop endlessly make sense as to why you can't (like /poke or /dote), but i can't really give an explanation for stuff like /converse

[slate arrow]

some of them are just holdovers from 1.0

and then there's stuff like /bread but /shrug

[twin fog]

When do the yokai event end?

[slate arrow]

5.4 launch

[tacit atlas]

December

[slate arrow]

Sometime in December

[twin fog]

oh okay

I need to get some legendary medals, for the bard bow

Appearntly I need to use the whisper minion, but at a specific fate?

I dont really understand

[tacit atlas]

Fates in a specific location

You should have gotten something that told you what those areas were

[twilit arch]

!faq yokai

[zinc orbit]

Yokai Watch Guide

[twin fog]

is it just any place that already give yokai medals?

Oh thanks Kaelwryn

[twilit arch]

infographic lists the appropriate zones for each minion

[faint flare]

The medals to get minions is in every zone and are guaranteed, the medals for weapons need to be in those specific zones with the minion out

[leaden ginkgo]

I just beat the leviathan how far am i to Heavensward?

[twilit arch]

almost to the midway point of post ARR

[leaden ginkgo]

oh god

[vapid magnet]

it’s a dark road to heavensward

but it’s so worth it

[leaden ginkgo]

so i gotta go through

Defenders of Eorzea
Dreams of Ice
Before the fall part 1-2

[twilit arch]

ayep

[leaden ginkgo]

i got told they cut alot of it out though

[twilit arch]

use to be 100 quests, got cut down to 80

[leaden ginkgo]

I just wanna be a dark knight lol

[twilit arch]

a fair number of it was also shortened

[leaden ginkgo]

WHY SE WHY!

[karmic veldt]

tbf those last three are like

The best parts of the story

for post 2.0

Arguably the best parts of the story up to that point

I do wish they'd boost dark knight (and the other HW jobs') starting level to 50 and just let you binge the 30-50 storylines as soon as you unlock.

So that you can get going in the HW storyline as soon as you get them.

Not that it takes TOO long to level 30-50.

It's just a bit of a pain.

[ocean tartan]

Where I can find a guide for inventory management? What to keep and what to sell

[stark sleet]

I don't know of any guides, but from my experience, you can afford to be pretty free with what you sell or throw out. If you can't see a use for it, it's usually pretty safe to get rid of. If you do accidentally throw out something unique and want it back, there are generally ways to get them back from npcs in most cases

[tacit atlas]

Usually it's safe to just sell the mats that you can buy from vendors and gray equipment that you aren't using anymore

[little swift]

Zepla has a video you can reference for an idea on how to organize

But what ando and quote have said is good

Almost everything in the game can be reobtained one way or another

[obsidian gulch]

Is this the place where I ask if I need help

[little swift]

What kind of help

[obsidian gulch]

So

I usually play on pc

But since I always get disconnects I tried going to ps4

I got the game and now I don't know how to log in

[faint flare]

You should be prompted to log in with your account if you have one

[obsidian gulch]

The '' Icurrently possess a Square Enix?'

[faint flare]

Yes

[obsidian gulch]

Because if I put my information in there

It just says that this account has free trial etc

You can only log in to staff that doesn't have it

Lemme do it

[faint flare]

Are you on trial on pc

[obsidian gulch]

Yea

[faint flare]

You can't use trial pc account on ps4

[obsidian gulch]

So I have to live with disconnects

Aight

Since for some reason I always get disconnects

[little swift]

Check you ping and your routing to the servers

Try a vpn

[tacit atlas]

Are you on wifi?

[obsidian gulch]

yea

Imma buy the game now

[tacit atlas]

Because wifi always makes the connection more unstable

[obsidian gulch]

Do I get it on MOG

Cuz im gonna buy it either way

so do I buy it on pc or

[little swift]

Thats up to you

[obsidian gulch]

Can I play on ps4 if I get it on pc

Cuz I got the code?

I buy it on MOG station right

[faint flare]

You'll need to rebuy on ps4 if you buy and pc

And vice via

If you wanna play on both

[obsidian gulch]

wow

such scam

[faint flare]

Licensing

[obsidian gulch]

Because I don't know if it's better on ps4

cuz my wifi doesn't work on my pc for some reason

Or im gonna make a character on ps4 now

And check

[twin fog]

So basically any of these 3 with whisper, doing fates in those areas can give legendary?

[obsidian gulch]

So to get it correct

If I buy a pc subscription I can't use it on ps4

[faint flare]

Subscription covers the entire account

On all platform

[raven sage]

@twin fog yes

[twin fog]

alright thanks 🙂

[twilit arch]

yes, so long as you're in one of those zones you have a chance of getting legendary medals

[obsidian gulch]

so

If I buy a pc sub now

I can just login to my account on PS4

And play on there

[twilit arch]

assuming you also own it on ps4

[obsidian gulch]

Damn

[faint flare]

After buying thr game itself on ps4

[obsidian gulch]

This is shit

[faint flare]

The game and sub are different thingd

[obsidian gulch]

Imma stick to PC disconnects

[onyx kiln]

what does this text box mean by "most targets"? Does that mean that there are targerts that don't reduce the recast time at all after you land a hit?

[wheat plume]

Is the Dragonlancer Coffer the reward after finishing DRG Job quest lvl 60 ?

[faint flare]

Immune targets wont give you the reduction

[onyx kiln]

okay

[eager widget]

yeah @wheat plume

specifically “Dragoon’s Fate”

[obsidian gulch]

i upgrade it on mogstation right?

im kinda forgetful

[fresh lodge]

Upgrade what?

[obsidian gulch]

free trial to sub

[fresh lodge]

Have you bought the game?

[obsidian gulch]

not yet

im on free trial

but i wanna buy it

[twilit arch]

once you've bought the game, yah you will upgrade thru mogstation

[obsidian gulch]

FFXIV Starter Version Windows / 9,99 Eur?

ig thats the right one

[twilit arch]

if all you want is the starter edition (which is a realm reborn and heavensward)

if you want everything in one fell swoop, you should by the complete edition. which will also include stormblood and shadowbringers

[obsidian gulch]

which is like 40?

is that one payment

or also monthly

[faint flare]

Its always going to be monthly. Again the game and subscription are different things

[twilit arch]

the 40$ is gonna be one time payment

[faint flare]

The complete edition is everything upfront in one

[twilit arch]

but you get 30 days free when you apply the starter/complete edition to your account

[obsidian gulch]

so if i want my character to get to lvl 80

[twilit arch]

once those 30 days are over, you'll have to pay the sub fee

[obsidian gulch]

i buy the starter or higher

[twilit arch]

buy complete

[faint flare]

Starter edition locks you to 60

[obsidian gulch]

but im up to 60 on trial?

[faint flare]

Yes, starter edition is the same as trial, just removing the trial limitations

[obsidian gulch]

wow

i cant afford that lmao

just to reach 20 extra levels

[karmic niche]

A lot of content too

[faint flare]

Its basically the other half of the game

[obsidian gulch]

complete edition is whole game

so 40 one time

10 monthyl

well game is 40

sub is 10

[karmic niche]

11 actually usd or euro

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[obsidian gulch]

so i pay 40

november is free

and when december comes

10/month

or 11

can i post a link in here

just to make sure im on the right link

[remote lintel]

yes

[obsidian gulch]

https://secure.square-enix.com/account/app

[remote lintel]

that's mog station

[obsidian gulch]

this is the right one?

[remote lintel]

what are you trying to buy

[obsidian gulch]

the complete edition

and then the monthyl sub

[remote lintel]

for windows or steam

[obsidian gulch]

windows

[remote lintel]

https://store.eu.square-enix-games.com/en_EU/product/565219/final-fantasy-xiv-online-complete-edition-pc-download

[leaden ginkgo]

hi new to the game what is a nice class to start iwth

[remote lintel]

any

[obsidian gulch]

so

why not mog?

[remote lintel]

what

[obsidian gulch]

isnt that the same

why not buy on Mogstation

[leaden ginkgo]

okay

[native coral]

@leaden ginkgo paladin or any dps

[remote lintel]

no raiko

any class is fine

[obsidian gulch]

go monk

monk

[eager widget]

all the starter jobs are fairly beginner friendly and you can change to any of them after reaching the lv10 main story quest iirc?

[remote lintel]

@obsidian gulch mog station directs you to the SE store

[native coral]

YES

[leaden ginkgo]

is it required to buy expansion pack

[native coral]

No

[eager widget]

not at all! the trial is massive

[remote lintel]

if you want to play storm blood and shadowbringers

[native coral]

Yes

Normally not

[eager widget]

you get the base game and the first expansion if you wanna give the game a shot

[native coral]

Though

Yes true

[leaden ginkgo]

does the expanion give more classes or do you unlock them while playing?

[obsidian gulch]

so mogstation is just a thing that reidtrects you to store

[remote lintel]

it gives samurai, red mage, dancer, and gun breaker

[eager widget]

the Heavensward jobs unlock from main story progress, and the four jobs cerberus posted require you being a certain level to unlock

[native coral]

Dark knight not?

[remote lintel]

@obsidian gulch yes you don't buy the game on mog station

dark knight is heavensward

[obsidian gulch]

address = main?

[leaden ginkgo]

okii thank you 🙂 I wanted to try a healing class

[remote lintel]

play whatever you want

[remote lintel]

you can be all classes on 1 character anyway

[kind eagle]

What is this outfit

[remote lintel]

the gold saucer bunny outfit

[twilit arch]

the bunny outfit from gold saucer

[kind eagle]

is it hard to get?

[obsidian gulch]

what do i do when the uh

[remote lintel]

no

[kind eagle]

i didnt start gold saucer yet

[obsidian gulch]

when my country isnt on the ölist

[twilit arch]

no, mgp is pretty easy to get

[obsidian gulch]

like the Country list on the payment

[twilit arch]

every activity in the gold saucer earns you mgp

[obsidian gulch]

my country isnt on thereß

[kind eagle]

I try to get it then

[faint cloud]

@leaden ginkgo if you want to try healer from beginning you have to do conjurer.

[obsidian gulch]

i literally cant find my country

i cant find it

i gotta find germany

[leaden ginkgo]

@faint cloud Thank you 🙂

[obsidian gulch]

@remote lintel https://store.eu.square-enix-games.com/de_DE/product/603992/final-fantasy-xiv-online-complete-edition

ig this is the german onE?

[remote lintel]

it's the EU version

[obsidian gulch]

cuz i cant find germany on the link you sent lmao

[remote lintel]

put in the closest thing

[obsidian gulch]

well

im doing it on the link i sent

or is that not okay

[remote lintel]

sure

[leaden ginkgo]

are there raids?

[remote lintel]

yes

there are 8 man raids and 24 man raids

[leaden ginkgo]

nice 🙂

[obsidian gulch]

okay i bought it

[faint flare]

There's 12 8man raids and 3 24mn raids per expansion/section. Not counting the extreme trials

[obsidian gulch]

so now i go to mog

and ptut in the code?

[remote lintel]

yes

[obsidian gulch]

the 3rd one?

"put in register code" is the 3rd

aight

i think i got it now

[last kayak]

So I'm in-progress of getting MNK maxed for this expansion. I'm curious about a few things though;

1. Is the intent behind Anatman to make it so we use Tornado Kick and then use Anatman to go right back to GL-max?
2. When is 6-sided Star used?
3. Why would they make Riddle of Wind something that depends on Fists of Wind being used, when Fists of Wind on its own is completely worthless?..

[slate arrow]

5.4 is changing MNK, so this will be outdated soon

[last kayak]

Oh, do we have patch notes for 5.4?

[faint flare]

1. yes you can Tk then Anatman during downtime to generate stacks
2. Sss is short downtime, like poiny blanks or as a final hit
3. because they did

[slate arrow]

1: it's used for downtime
2: ideally. Never
3: GL4 vs Fire damage buff is basically whichever feels better for you

[remote lintel]

anatman is used during downtime so you don't lose GL

[obsidian gulch]

here we go downloading ffxiv with my shitty internet

2mb/s

thx for the help

[slate arrow]

@last kayak no, but we do know they're junking the way Greased Lightning currently works to just make it a passive trait instead

everything else will be a result of the change

[last kayak]

Wait what 😐 But thats the only mechanic that MNK has

[remote lintel]

that's the only confirmed change

[slate arrow]

well there's stances and chakra

[faint flare]

But GL goes against the fight design they have

[remote lintel]

not the ONLY change

[slate arrow]

we don't know what they might be adding in its place

We only know GL will no longer exist in its current form

[last kayak]

oh god, don't get my hopes up. What if they gave us the FF6 combo system!?

[slate arrow]

we don't know.

[faint flare]

All we know is that GL will be a trait that just will be increased as you level

[slate arrow]

also the command input system wouldn't work in FFXIV

since the server can't keep track of those inputs

[last kayak]

they could do it similar to NIN

[slate arrow]

no, cause that's NIN's shtick

they do have data from all of the recorded runs from past expansions with MNK so they might take a step back and look at older rotations like TK from Stormblood

we don't know

[obsidian gulch]

good thing i love mnk

am i the only one feeling useless as mnk dps or is this monk just lame?

[hazy flint]

Is the diadem node writing broken? Gathering attempts+5 gave me the same amount of attempts at a non +5 node lol

[slate arrow]

@hazy flint didn't meet the minimum stat requirements

[brave ravine]

look forward to 5.4 Pug

[little swift]

monk isn't useless, its just stale for most people

[obsidian gulch]

i will

[slate arrow]

@obsidian gulch nah MNK is just in a weird ass place currently

[obsidian gulch]

considering i just bought complete

im hyped

ugh gotta farm yokaitoo

🙄

[leaden ginkgo]

hello, what melds are recommended for crafter aesthete set?

[slate arrow]

#doh-dol-lounge

alternatively

https://ffxiv.ariyala.com/1DUPU

[halcyon knoll]

Who's this?

[obsidian patio]

||Edda Pureheart||

[leaden ginkgo]

https://ffxiv.ariyala.com/1DUPU
@slate arrow isn't this for blacksmith? or can that build be used by other jobs?

[raw solstice]

you do the same for every job

they wear the same gear, the only thing you swap out is mainhand/offhand which you should meld the same way

[slate arrow]

All crafters share the exact same breakpoints and stats

you shouldn't need to change anything, and if you have specialist you can just unequip the specialist tablet if you're not sure it'll mess up your macro/rotation

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[leaden ginkgo]

I believe that website is taking FC buffs into account, right?

[slate arrow]

it shouldn't be

Teamcraft can take FC buffs into account but for the most part those are your raw stats before specialist and food

[verbal rune]

What kind of Chocobo should i am for?

[slate arrow]

depends on the content

[verbal rune]

should I just pick something complementary to my job?

[slate arrow]

ah for combat

[faint flare]

Usually healer

[slate arrow]

DPS or Healer

Tank is virtually worthless

[manic flare]

what's the difference between shout and yell?

[slate arrow]

Shout is zonewide

yell is like say but bigger

[manic flare]

can you run peisteskin map unsync'ed? if you have a level 80 character

[faint flare]

The overworld party doesn't sync you

In any map

Only the portal dungeon in the 8man maps sync you

[manic flare]

so can you do a peisteskin map with only 2 people if you have high enough level?

[faint flare]

Can solo it

[leaden ginkgo]

is this meld guide obsolete? https://ffxiv.ariyala.com/1DLJA

[bleak lake]

Can you somehow stop the whole camera from turning when for example healing someone behind you?

[vestal needle]

Whats the point of melding or gearing up if there is level sync? Is it just for stronger stats in dungeons that doesnt ilvl sync u?

[faint flare]

For endgame

And raids

[vestal needle]

Endgame has no ilvl sync?

[faint flare]

Current raids don't sync

[vestal needle]

Oh i see

[faint flare]

Also so you can faceroll stuff when you unsync

[vestal needle]

Shadowbringer dungeon still sync though right?

[faint flare]

And general overworld content

Yes Shadowbringers dungeons sync

[leaden ginkgo]

which is the most updated guide? https://ffxiv.ariyala.com/1DUPU or https://ffxiv.ariyala.com/1DLJA ???

[vestal needle]

When does dungeon start not syncing? During eden verse

[faint flare]

No Shadowbringers raids sync

[vestal needle]

Oh... what is consider current raid

[rotund sable]

wait has ariyala lost its certificate?

[faint flare]

Eden and nier

[slate arrow]

seems so

[wheat plume]

Im in coil of bahamut 5 but I cant see the red triangle marker on my head, I have effects on limited

what could be happening?

[slate arrow]

Limited does not disable Enemy effects

[rotund sable]

i'd look for an etro.gg link until they get their certificates back no reasons

[slate arrow]

It only disables Yourself and Party/Player effects

[wheat plume]

ok

what could be happening?

[leaden ginkgo]

@rotund sable why?

[wheat plume]

Its weird because last week i could see it

[rotund sable]

generally bad practice to use sites that dont have a safety certificate, and etro just generally breaks down stat breakpoints better

[rotund sable]

etro is just generally better because of the built in maths

you can work out teirs a bit better this way

[leaden ginkgo]

where can I find one for crafting?

[slate arrow]

For whatever reason, the DoH/DoL team at the Balance continue to use Arialya so

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[rotund sable]

the balance loves ariyala and idk why

[slate arrow]

ah actually

https://ffxivteamcraft.com/gearset/MQZMdG8SnPD877eAyvby

They've moved to teamcraft now so

use this

Tentative Recommended gear set (2642/2677/548) / (2714/2689/554)
The set using Relic Tools: https://ffxivteamcraft.com/gearset/9xQ6gZh0FP8Bq0CDVztl
The set using Aesthete's Tools: https://ffxivteamcraft.com/gearset/U5Ci7tGgewad9G9zAHQm
Rotations: https://ffxivteamcraft.com/rotation-folder/5wjwAqcg6RxEoWhifOwa

So this set is abit split. There is one with the relic tools and one with the Aesthete's tools. They will use the same rotations however. Just be mindful that the first set will change in stats as the Relic tool progresses.

from the balance

[last tapir]

I cant seem to get this macro to work, any solutions?

[leaden ginkgo]

can relic tool stats change completely? or are they just increased?

[slate arrow]

They just go up

there's no alternative stats when it comes to crafting

you need a pretty good spread of all 3, doubly so depending on what macros you use

[twilit arch]

there usually is stage that lets you choose secondary stats

[slate arrow]

For crafter tools?

[twilit arch]

oh crafters

well those....are kind of new this time

so hard to say realistically

[wheat plume]

how can i do focus target on ps4

[last tapir]

hit square then focus target

while targeting someone

[mossy tartan]

If I wanted to spam command missions for squadron (dungeon) which one would yield a faster clear? RDM or DNC? Assuming I’m equally as knowledgeable on both of them

[onyx kiln]

is there any bonus at all to anything beside the one mentioned in the box?

[slate arrow]

@mossy tartan both are about equal, really depends on your squadron command stances

@onyx kiln what do you mean by bonus?

Rewards are based on what level you're at, at a fixed % of your XP bar

[mossy tartan]

defensive on tank
Independent on healer
Offensive on magical DPS

[onyx kiln]

this one

[twilit arch]

That message only applies to the top portion

adventurer in need (the bottom portion) is always available

[jade thorn]

Hi does the arr story ever get interesting

I’m a few quests after the thunder crystal raid where you save the sylph queen from the spider

[slate arrow]

depends on what you mean by interesting

[jade thorn]

I gues

I heard this game has great writing

[slate arrow]

later on, definitely

2.0 to 2.2-2.3 they're still laying down a lot of backbone to the world

[jade thorn]

For now it’s just patience?

[hasty musk]

patience and setup

[jade thorn]

Right now it feels like walking

[slate arrow]

believe it or not, it used to be worse

[jade thorn]

I heard about 14.0

lmao

[twin fog]

Anyone know if there are any big FCs left on phoenix? I cant seem to find any big and active ones. Lots of small ones though

[zealous flower]

the voice actors also change after ARR, it helps the writing when it's better delivered

[slate arrow]

from sniff the chocobo to running around the sylph camp looking for the real scions

it kinda sucked.

[jade thorn]

oh god

The va sucks so far but I played ff10 so I’m used to it

[zealous flower]

after ARR there are some voice performances i'd actually call great, and not in relative terms

[hasty musk]

when the game hits its stride narratively you'll definitely notice

[jade thorn]

good cuz I have to sit around and give tea to everyone for days and days

And do chores

[zealous flower]

there'll still be sorta-fillery bits but less of them and you'll like the people you're doing them for more

[lilac dock]

which heavensward beast tribe is the battle tribe

cant remember if its vanu vanu or vath

[fluid dagger]

Heyo how many skills does each job have?

[lilac dock]

depends on the class

PLD has a lot, but SMN doesnt really have many

[zealous flower]

you can fill 2-3 bars by lv80

[lilac dock]

minimum 2 bars no matter what class

[fluid dagger]

hmmmm ok that sounds good to me

I just started and I like having lots of skills in mmos

[lilac dock]

meaning bare minimum 24

PLD has somewhere around 33

i think

[fluid dagger]

Wow ok

[twilit arch]

both of them are battle @lilac dock

[lilac dock]

ah they both are?

thanks

[twilit arch]

yep

shadowbringers is the only one with 1 combat beast tribe

[lilac dock]

im trying to get that slight bit of exp to get from 60-61 and im done dailies

[jade thorn]

Im sticking to paladin cuz I got bored of pressing only two buttons but now it’s getting kinda overwhelming

[zealous flower]

i do feel like they should give you a LITTLE more to do earlier

[jade thorn]

Yeah like as a gladiator I got like 10 skills while t other base classes had very little and I have yet to level them up to jobs

[remote lintel]

tanks have the least interesting rotation

[zealous flower]

like it feels a bit silly when you get level synced down to the earliest dungeons and you don't even have the third button for your combo or whatever

[fluid dagger]

I chose archer so I hope it's kinda fun

and the animations are not all same looking

[remote lintel]

they arent all the same looking

[zealous flower]

it kinda depends on your tastes, i feel like every class has its supporters in the game

and the good thing is being able to try them all on the same character and getting bonuses etc.

[slate arrow]

You don't get bonuses for having multiple jobs leveled besides the Armory Bonus now

They scrapped Cross Class skills back in Stormblood

[zealous flower]

yeah i was kind of also including the soft benefits of just having the gil and resources to help things along from having one job higher

[lilac dock]

holy i forgot which area the vath are in lol

[remote lintel]

forelands

[lilac dock]

found it

ty

[zealous flower]

like i save the better gear drops and rewards for classes i might try later, though that becomes an inventory management problem lol

[lilac dock]

wow HSW beast tribes give literally zero exp

alright

[remote lintel]

no

[lilac dock]

time to unlock the SB ones

[remote lintel]

it depends on your level

[lilac dock]

it gives 80k exp at level 60

thats almost nothing

[remote lintel]

for one quest or all of them?

[lilac dock]

singular

thats 240k total for a daily, when i need 4.5mil lol

pixies give a good ratio

[slate arrow]

that's because you're at level 60

once you get to the level cap of the expansion, all EXP rewards are slashed to a tenth since you're not at where you're supposed to be anymore

[remote lintel]

you cant do pixies at lvl 60

[slate arrow]

Pixies have a minimum level requirement of 70

[lilac dock]

i Understand that

[twilit arch]

well, not entirely true for the combat tribes

[lilac dock]

im saying that the ratio for exp for the pixie beast tribe is actually pretty damn good

[twilit arch]

they still decent-ish exp a few levels above their lvl cap

[remote lintel]

because the pixie tribe literally goes all the way to the level cap so you can't be overleveled for them

[twilit arch]

its the crafting tribe that gets gutted

Also pixies have a higher exp given because they are the only combat tribe for shb

[lilac dock]

dont the dwarves exist

[twilit arch]

so its boosted to make up for the fact that you can't do two sets of dailies

[lilac dock]

for crafting

[remote lintel]

for crafters

[soft sleet]

there a good place to find people to do treasure hunts out there?

[little swift]

party finder

[remote lintel]

centurio discord, recruitment channel

[lilac dock]

party finder, numerous discords

i use centurio

[twilit arch]

every other set of beast tribes has atleast 2 tribes specifically for combat, with only 1 for crafting/gathering

[soft sleet]

ah centurio okay thanks

pf always seems to be empty for treasure

[open ember]

So how do you grow jute exactly

I know its used for rugs but

I need to know how to grow them or let alone obtain it's seeds first

[twilit arch]

cross breed

[open ember]

Ugh

Is there a site that'll help with cross breeding

[lilac dock]

which SB beast tribes are battle?

[remote lintel]

ananta, kojin

[twilit arch]

https://www.ffxivgardening.com/seed-details.php?SeedID=42

[lilac dock]

got it ty

[open ember]

Thank you Kae

[lilac dock]

time to go through insanely long quest chains

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[manic flare]

is this still recommended to do?

Evaluation Botany Leves: are the what I called the “Flower Elf (FE)” and “Catgirl Fishing (CF)“. If you get the highest possible evaluation rating – you get a chunky EXP bonus. This is what you want! This can be hard to do if your gear is severely outdated.

1. Accept all available botany levequests when you reach a new levemete.
2. Complete them all BUT DO NOT SUBMIT THEM.
3. Only submit and gain the rewards for “FE” or “CF”.
4. FE and/or CF should be available again from levemete.
5. Only submit the “King” and “Lala” variants when you’re ready to go next tier.

[obsidian gulch]

Can you pay for a year worth of subscription?

[slate arrow]

no

only up to 180 days

[obsidian gulch]

Aight

Because my friend might buy a sub

[cunning moss]

Anyone wanna help me learn the game again. Played way back when, just bought some progression to get kinda caught up. Dont have shadowbringers till I see i wanna start playing again

[elder sinew]

How do you change the timer display ingame? Clicking on it doesnt

ET to local time

[obsidian gulch]

it does?

It works for me

If I click on the little numbers or the time itself

[open ember]

You have to click on the ET

Like the little box with the letters

And it'll change

[elder sinew]

Ah I see the problem lol

[obsidian gulch]

Man I'm so hyped tomorrow

[leaden ginkgo]

what's the difference between Eos and selene? The description says both cast embrace

[open ember]

Nothing

[obsidian gulch]

Can't wait to get everything, imma be so clueless

[open ember]

Just glamour

[elder sinew]

Chat overlay covers the Timer, so can't click it

[obsidian gulch]

Press scroll lock

[open ember]

They used to have different functions but now Eos ans Selene work exactly the same

[obsidian gulch]

On your keyboard

Should be somewhere top right

[leaden ginkgo]

I see

[obsidian patio]

Or move the clock

And then move it back

[obsidian gulch]

Or that yea

[elder sinew]

Yea, had to move the chat

Thx

[leaden ginkgo]

I noticed I lost some skills when I switch to scholar. I just got level 35, should I keep leveling as an arcanist?

[elder sinew]

Is there an update or something tomorrow?

[open ember]

No switch to scholar

[obsidian patio]

Not that I am aware of

Unless it’s just hotfixes

[obsidian gulch]

I bought complete edition a couple hours ago

Is the nier stuff included?

[remote lintel]

@leaden ginkgo scholar has different skills from arcanist

so youre going to have new ones

[obsidian gulch]

Because I was gonna go for Dancer

[remote lintel]

the nier stuff are lvl 80 raids in shadowbringers

so yes

[obsidian gulch]

oh

lots of grinding

Now that I think about it

[remote lintel]

not really?

[obsidian gulch]

Getting complete Edition is worth it

[remote lintel]

its just doing the story

[obsidian gulch]

I mean I've been playing for a week now and in lvl 53 monk

I played 2 months ago

[open ember]

Shouldn't take you THAT long to get to Shadowbringers post patch

[open coral]

@leaden ginkgo You never want to go back to a base class once you've reached the point where you can unlock a job. SCH "loses" some of the spells and abilities of the general ACN class at lower levels, but regains them at higher levels, while the SMN branch maintains those spells and abilities because it's the dps job.

[obsidian gulch]

I was like level 40

I have like 8 open dungeon quests

And some trials

[crimson wind]

Are you reading story

[remote lintel]

i mean sure but it's just doing the story

[obsidian gulch]

But now I can invite friends n stuff

[leaden ginkgo]

but right now I don't have that fester skill

was my main source of damage while questing

[remote lintel]

you get aetherflow

[faint flare]

Because its not a scholar skill

[open ember]

Fester is a SMN skill

[faint flare]

Its a arcanist/summoner skill

[obsidian gulch]

Machinist had which weapon again?

[open ember]

If you want dmg over healing you need to change to SMN

[remote lintel]

a gun

[obsidian gulch]

Or are Machinist and Gunbreaker the same

Nvm

[faint flare]

scholar is essentially its own job just piggybacking off arcanist

[remote lintel]

gunbreaker is a tank

[leaden ginkgo]

so it's better to level as summoner?

[remote lintel]

machinist is a dps

[obsidian gulch]

I'm never gonna be a tank

[open ember]

It you want

[leaden ginkgo]

because it does more damage

[obsidian gulch]

I'm too dumb for that

I stick to dps

[crimson wind]

lol tanking is easy

[remote lintel]

tanking is easier than dpsing

[open ember]

SMN is a DPS but SCH is a healer

[faint flare]

Scholar does respectable damage

All healers do

[crimson wind]

tanking is easier than dpsing
@remote lintel debatable

[remote lintel]

rotation wise

[leaden ginkgo]

I'll just level as scholar then

[remote lintel]

is what i mean

[leaden ginkgo]

thanks

[obsidian gulch]

Good thing that every class I like is dps

I liked playing as BLU

[remote lintel]

dps rotations are harder

so

[obsidian gulch]

yea

I just like melee dps the most

I hate being mage tbh

Just don't have a feeling for it

[stable walrus]

Hey guys, does it matter which lvl 70 dungeon or they all give the same experience?

[remote lintel]

dont do lvl 70 dungeons

[polar hound]

do not run 70s for exp

[faint flare]

Do castrum abania

Its better

[polar hound]

50/60/70/80 dungeons do not give a lot of exp. they were meant for max level of their time.

[faint flare]

Level cap dungeons are trash xp wipse

[stable walrus]

oh, okay, thanks. so what's your suggestion? HoH?

[remote lintel]

Do castrum abania

[crimson wind]

Castrum Abania

[obsidian gulch]

Btw what's potd

[polar hound]

anything close, like they suggested Castrum ^

[stable walrus]

ah okay

[polar hound]

!faq potd

[remote lintel]

palace of the dead

[zinc orbit]

Deep Dungeon Info

Deep Dungeon Play Guide

Effective Levelling Method
The commonly accepted method for levelling in POTD is to start at floor 51 and clear to 60, then reset the save and start back at floor 51, though if you don’t have floor 51 unlocked, 1-10 is an acceptable alternative.

For HoH the principle is the same, instead you’ll be running floors 21-30 instead.

[obsidian gulch]

Like I know the name

[remote lintel]

oh shit theres an faq

[obsidian gulch]

But should I level my Monk there

[remote lintel]

what lvl is your msq

[obsidian gulch]

uh

I uh

[faint flare]

Its for levelling alt jobs

[obsidian gulch]

Lemme get in my memory

[polar hound]

potd is the accepted method to level dps due to 15+minute queue times for them...provided that MSQ is done, anyways.

[remote lintel]

^

[obsidian gulch]

I killed a big guy with a long beard today

As msw

Hard Mode

Rhuman?

[polar hound]

you have much to go

[remote lintel]

so post ARR

[polar hound]

Ramuh

[obsidian gulch]

Yea

[remote lintel]

then just do the msq

[obsidian gulch]

Aight

Cuz I still have like 7 dungeon quests

[remote lintel]

being overleveled only wastes exp

[obsidian gulch]

From the arr ending

Which I might do someday

[polar hound]

it be like that, just focus that MSQ

and if you're a lorehead, do the coils of bahamut for more

[obsidian gulch]

I'm the opposite

I gotta get wired connection someday

Or get my pc fixed so I can actually enter my 90mb/s wifi

Cuz I get at least 5 disconnects a day

[leaden ginkgo]

is a penta melded aesthete tool better than skytool relic?

[little swift]

yes

but also likely more expensive

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[leaden ginkgo]

I think my download will be done in 4 days

[karmic niche]

What the hell 4 days?

[leaden ginkgo]

yes my internet is not very good

[coarse plaza]

Is there still a way to collect materials for upgrading Poetics-50/60/70 armor to augmented? I only see the option to buy augmented versions directly now but the thing is I bought unaugmented versions way before... don't tell me i can throw em away 😄

[faint flare]

Shire and scaevan can be upgraded at the calamity salvager

Ironworks cant

[coarse plaza]

dammit why did they make such a decision? getting punished for preparing ahead... ugh

wait what do u mean with can be upgraded. i can use the remaining materials i have or i can still collect new materials?

Because technically ironworks can be upgraded in north shroud

[faint flare]

If you have left over materials you can use those but can't get anymore of them

[coarse plaza]

yea dammit...

[faint flare]

Calamity salvager upgrades it for 100 poetics

But not for ironworks for whatever reason

[coarse plaza]

ah i see. thank you for the clarification.

theres one disadvantage with the whole system though. since rings are unique i used to have 1 augmented and 1 non-augmented

but well it doesnt really matter, just slightly frustrating. Thanks again

[spare plinth]

do people do eureka for glamour?

[faint flare]

Yes

[verbal ravine]

I'm giving this game another shot, but need to download it...Where the hell is the download page, I can only get the free trial launcher

[spare plinth]

is there like an easy beginner guide to eureka?

or bozja

[remote lintel]

https://www.finalfantasyxiv.com/playersdownload/na/

[verbal ravine]

Thank you ❤️

What would be the best way to find some people to play with ? I'm very new, I've done the first little raid but then I kinda dropped off because playing solo is a bit boring. Do I find a group to be recruited ?

[remote lintel]

join an fc

join novice network

[verbal ravine]

I'm in Novice network

[gritty oracle]

If you're not on trial, look for a FC. Also regardless of whether you're on trial or not, request an invitation to the Novice Network. Just shout in a capital city or /tell someone with a crown next to their name.

ah

also yeah, FCs is your best bet. You're unlikely to join a static until you're level 80 and fully decked in at least 480 gear, likely 500 when next patch rolls out.

[crimson wind]

510*

[verbal ravine]

Someone was nice enough to add me to Novice network ^^ I'm sorry but what's a FC ? ^^"

[gritty oracle]

Free Company

basically a guild

[verbal ravine]

I see, thanks ^^

[leaden ginkgo]

I'm at the quest where I need to get level 5 gear.
I heard I should save side quests for later. Should I just kill enemies and sell stuff to get money?

[gritty oracle]

Stand around long enough in any capital city and you'll likely get unsolicited invites before long, or just shout that you're looking for a fc. You find lots of recruitments in PF too.

[remote lintel]

@leaden ginkgo you can buy it from vendors

[leaden ginkgo]

I don't have enough money

[gritty oracle]

You can buy lv5 gear from a vendor right next to the quest npc. It doesn't cost a lot. Also don't waste money on buying other gear from vendors or market board, or too much teleporting around

Most money is made by not spending it

[leaden ginkgo]

I haven't spend money yet

[verbal ravine]

I'll get right on it, also quick question. I use a smol ducky keyboard with no F keys, how would you go about setting things up

[gritty oracle]

but yeah if you're very low on gil, sidequests is a good idea

does your kb have a numpad?

[leaden ginkgo]

I only have like 155 or under 300.
I'm not entirely sure

[verbal ravine]

Nope, 60% keyboard

[leaden ginkgo]

I play on pa4

Oh sry

Lol

[gritty oracle]

15, I recommend you do some low level sidequests

[verbal ravine]

I could actually just plug in my other keyboard and only use it for XIV

[gritty oracle]

for the gil

[leaden ginkgo]

Which side quests are safe too do?

[gritty oracle]

but after this, never buy gear from vendors. Waste of gil.

[leaden ginkgo]

Yeah sure

[gritty oracle]

Any that has an equal or lower level than you.

You can see the level of the quest when they offer it to you

[leaden ginkgo]

I'm just afraid of doing side quests because somebody said to me I should just do main quest and save side quest for later

[gritty oracle]

Also remember to set your home point and favoured points to save gil when teleporting around.

That's because it's general advice notto waste your time

[leaden ginkgo]

Thx I will remember that

Nah they said I should I later

[gritty oracle]

in your specific situation, you should take sidequests to make enough gil to buy the gear.

[leaden ginkgo]

Ok good

So they are useless?

[gritty oracle]

Also, look around in the sidequests. MAybe some will give you the gear for free

[faint flare]

All you need to buy a hat

Cause your racial gear is ilvl 5

[gritty oracle]

kinda. They're there for lore largely

[leaden ginkgo]

Nice

[gritty oracle]

Did you spend any gil by the way? I don't remember ever having issues with buying the hat. Did you do your lv1 and lv5 class quests?

[leaden ginkgo]

A last question. What's more important for my lancer? Gear against magic damage or physical damage?
And which stat is more important for lancer (for example strength and more)

[open coral]

The defense stats aren't important.

[gritty oracle]

Get gear with Strength on it

[faint flare]

The highest ilvl gear with strength

[leaden ginkgo]

I only did main and guild quest

[open coral]

It's the "secondary" stats down in smaller print that are more important.

[gritty oracle]

guild quest. The ones in the Lancers' Guild?

[leaden ginkgo]

Good to know thanks.

Yeah the lancer guild

[gritty oracle]

Ah. Those are called class quests

make sure to do class quests every 5 levels because they unlock skills for you

you can see under your MSQ tracker if you have a new one.

[open coral]

You also get a new weapon with each class quest, and one other piece of gear of your choice until level 30.

[gritty oracle]

oh yeah. Always take the biggest upgrade.

[leaden ginkgo]

Yeah that's what my mother told me. I should only do main and class quest.

The biggest upgrade?

[open coral]

MSQ and should be your priority, yes.

The ones with the biggest change to numbers.

[leaden ginkgo]

Good

[gritty oracle]

You can do sidequests if you like. Your MSQ isn't going anywhere. It's just not optimal. Still gives you some lore and stuff.

[open coral]

^

[leaden ginkgo]

I gave this game another chance after being overwhelmed with the tutorial and reading. I just needed to take my time.

[gritty oracle]

oh yeah

MMOs can be very overwhelming

Make sure to read every Active Help window as they pop up

[open coral]

This game actually does a lot more early hand holding, tutorial-wise, compared to other MMOs

[gritty oracle]

faor, Aura

fair*

[open coral]

Until about level 20 in the MSQ, you're basically playing through a story-relevant tutorial.

[wheat plume]

Im in second coil turn 2, some guides say to hide behind petrified runaud to avoid aoe to all party members, mbut it isnt working. Is there something special to do there?

[gritty oracle]

btw, a question on my own. Does this haunted whatever with the make it rain event give me anything unique, like emotes or glam? Or just mgp?

[hallow grove]

do you guys think in the future, theyll plan on adding more than 2 duties in the main scenario roulette?

[gritty oracle]

nope Ariel

[faint flare]

The mansion is just for fun

[leaden ginkgo]

Well I only played other mmos on my ps4 like tera, star trek, bless unleashed (recently) , and basically every other mmo available on ps4 and they were much easier getting into but therfore much more boring. I never played those mmos for too long.

[hallow grove]

how come?

[gritty oracle]

Yoshi said they're not making any more (which is kinda a shame, I like them)

[faint flare]

The MSQ roulette is specifically made for castrum and praetorium

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[gritty oracle]

they said it was kinda a mistake

[faint flare]

And only for those two

[karmic veldt]

The Main Scenario roulette was created for two specific duties that were created in 2.0 and use a format of storytelling that turned out not to be great.

Namely, they have lengthy cutscenes inside of the duties themselves.

[open coral]

Normally there would be some unique holiday swag, but this year they've simply combined the usual Make it Rain event and rolled in a bit of All Saint's Wake @gritty oracle

[karmic veldt]

Before the MSQ roulette was added, people would go through these at a breakneck pace expecting people to either skip the cutscenes or be left behind.

Which, for new players, more or less ruins the climax of the 2.0 storyline.

[open coral]

They didn't have enough time to make a whole All Saint's event because COVID delays

[gritty oracle]

oh yeah I heard they bullied sprouts into skipping the cutscenes, or straight up kicked them

[open coral]

Nah, sprouts were expected to simply be left behind.

The usual reaction was "just watch the scenes, it's fine"

[karmic veldt]

Sometimes one or the other.

[open coral]

Rather than kicking.

[karmic veldt]

Usually just left them behind though.

[open coral]

I fondly remember missing every single fight in Praetorium until ||Ultima Weapon|| when I was a sprout.

[karmic veldt]

By making them a high-reward roulette that you can't skip cutscenes in (without a potentially-reportable exploit that requires everyone else to also do it), players new to it can get the full experience, but older players are also incentivized to do it.

[outer plank]

im looking for Chiaroglow Aethersand but i dont see it in the white scrip exchange tab?

[hallow grove]

so it was a roulette that was specifically made for those 2 quests because it was important to the story and people would just speedrun thru it?

[wheat plume]

Hi, any tip to avoid full party petrification in second coil of bahamut turn 2?
The marked player goes behind petrified gigant but it isnt working

[gritty oracle]

Oof. I had that with Coils when my FC helpfully ran it with me unsynced but never waited for my cutscenes, and I was too story-hungry to skip any.

[open coral]

The original version of the roulette, the scenes were still skippable, but the rewards were only about half of what they are now.

[gritty oracle]

no idea Khell, I'm not ignoring you I just have no idea

[open coral]

When they made the scenes unskippable, they doubled the rewards to make them still worthwhile for experienced players to run.

[hallow grove]

i don't think it was a mistake, i mean it seems like it was really needed

[karmic veldt]

People still kind of speedrun it insofar as most groups will still run straight in.

[gritty oracle]

the MSQ roulette was made because the two dungeons are damn too long and needed a "special reward" to get people to do them.

[karmic veldt]

Nah the mistake was the design of those two instances.

You never see instance design like that again after 2.0.

[hallow grove]

yeah that's true

[open coral]

"8-man dungeons"

[outer plank]

im looking for Chiaroglow Aethersand but i dont see it in the white scrip exchange tab? the wiki says it should be in the scrip exchange

[karmic veldt]

And not just because they're 8-man dungeons, moreso that they have cutscenes loaded inside. You can also see this in the first two Bahamut raids.

[outer plank]

is it under another tab then lv 80 items?

[gritty oracle]

there's other weird ARR designs like 4-man trials that you can't get rezzed in if you fall off the platform, or gestures at the entirety of Bahamut raids

[karmic veldt]

There's one other 2.0 instance that has a lore-heavy cutscene in it.

And unfortunately it's in probably the worst ARR dungeon.

[gritty oracle]

Oh yeah, toto-rak

[open coral]

Stone Vigil?

[raven sage]

Are you looking under the right kind of scrips? @outer plank

[karmic veldt]

The Thousand Maws of Toto-Rak actually contains dialogue before its final boss that has ramifications all the way into 5.2.

[open coral]

Oh, Toto-Rak

Yeah, that one's pretty bad too.

[karmic veldt]

But most people will never see it.

I didn't even see it until recently.

[open coral]

But I think the final boss cs in Stone Vigil is longer.

[outer plank]

and then it just hit me it might be under gathering @raven sage

whoops...

[karmic veldt]

Honestly, since that dungeon is annoying anyway, my recommendation is to unsync it as a newbie with a high-level friend.

[gritty oracle]

oh yeah scrip vendors have the worst interface lmao

[raven sage]

yeah it's ok I do it all the time too lol

[gritty oracle]

I wish we could just search within vendors

tbh my Toto-rak experience was improved by 100% when I took off my headset and stopped hearing the leaden sound.

[karmic veldt]

lmao yes

[gritty oracle]

anyways, we're getting off topic

so this might be a weird question, but anyone have an idea what the twins' metal (I'm assuming) hair bit is called?

[remote lintel]

a hair clip?

[karmic veldt]

It's just a hair pin.

[gritty oracle]

it looks like a metal hairband

[remote lintel]

that pic kinda spoilery

[karmic veldt]

It's probably got a metal bit going through it to help it be easier to braid.

[open coral]

Yeah, it's just a decorative hair ornament

[karmic veldt]

mneh there's only so much you can deduce from that pic without context.

[remote lintel]

i was gonna say hairband but its metal

[wintry chasm]

The least you can work out is ||Ryne is like the Word of the Mother due to the eyes||

[hasty musk]

gasp the twins get new outfits

[gritty oracle]

there really needs to be a way to spoilermark a pic without deleting the entire message

[karmic veldt]

Pictured: Alphinaud and Alisaie.

[hallow grove]

lmao nice

[gritty oracle]

this made me laugh out loud.

[hallow grove]

alisaie is definitely the one on the bottom left

[karmic veldt]

yess

[faint flare]

[heady knot]

im almost done with story msq.... so far im only doing msq in ff14

wondering what should i do next

or what is worth doing

[remote lintel]

do all the raids

[leaden ginkgo]

My brother wants to play ffxiv too

[remote lintel]

after you beat an expansion

[leaden ginkgo]

Is marauder or gladiator better?

[remote lintel]

both

[wintry chasm]

Pick what you want

[heady knot]

ok i only play one raid

[leaden ginkgo]

He can't decide

[remote lintel]

then do both

[heady knot]

i guess i will play the raids

[wintry chasm]

Does he want to unga bunga DPS or be classy?

If the former maurader, if the latter gladiator

[remote lintel]

i heard warrior has less apm than other tanks

[leaden ginkgo]

Which of the both is more aggressive?

[wintry chasm]

I can believe that Cerb