all tanks use strength for damage
#questions-and-help
whole wasp
dapper oyster
where and when can i see the patch note for the upcoming update?
neat schooner
Is it safe to remove benefic and cure from my hot bars? I heard these spells are never used after you get the upgraded version
elder sinew
How do you tell when a land plot is cleared via the Residental Ward Menu? Does it have a blank name or something?
vapid veldt
still might be useful for synced content
like if you end up in sastasha or something
neat schooner
Hmm, true
elder sinew
O0h 0k=
tidal yarrow
where's bokairo inn?
jade quartz
Yeah, where player inn room is
regal geyser
Is the maintenace now or 1 hour?
open coral
Now
regal geyser
Okayy
violet forge
so what do i do now?
open coral
Sleep?
oblique trellis
¯_(ツ)_/¯
dim smelt
It started
regal geyser
Genshin impact 👀
open coral
^
dim smelt
Finishes in 5 hours
oblique trellis
I think I may switch servers (and thus start over, maybe idk) - anyone love their server?
open coral
One server is no different from any other, imo
jade quartz
Ultros is named after a horrible tentacle monster
open coral
I like all of mine just fine.
oblique trellis
how many do you play on
oblique trellis
any certain reason you play so many? Variety?
open coral
I've got one character each on Aether (Cactuar - my first server), Crystal (Zalera) and Primal (Excalibur). Then I also have one on Elemental (Tonberry) because I wanted to play on a JP server for variety.
And the EU one was just because I felt like EU was getting left out.
dry jolt
Which apartment do people like best? Sionce I can't aaford a house and refuse to play the land rush game anyway.
open coral
Apartments are a much less limited resource so just pick the housing zone you like the look of best.
As a consummate weeb, mine is naturally in Shirogane.
dry jolt
I don't think i can go there, only about halfway through HW
open coral
You don't have to get an apartment as soon as you're able.
You can wait.
You can only own one apartment at a time, so if you don't like the available zones, you can just wait until you get to Kugane (in Stormblood) and gain access to Shirogane.
Or you can wait until next expansion when they finally release Ishgard housing (probably)
oblique trellis
has next one been announced? (no clue how long this one has been out)
jade quartz
Expected for August/September next year due to covid delays
open coral
We'll be coming up on the two year mark next year (2021), so the next expansion is expected to appear at that point.
oblique trellis
I got a lot of catchin up to do
open coral
We haven't had the official announcement, but we know the historical schedule
You can viably get through the entire game in under two weeks /playtime.
But we're still looking at at least another 10 months before the next expac
oblique trellis
yeah almost 60 on my main and been playing maybe a week
open coral
Character level doesn't give any useful data as to how far you are though.
toxic ridge
I have my launcher open during the maintenance - Will I need to restart the launcher to get the game to launch when maintenance finishes?
warped nest
While covid slows down development, not needing to travel to and run three fanfest have to save some times for some of the devs
open coral
@toxic ridge If the game doesn't download the patch data with the launcher open, you may need to restart the launcher to be able to play after maintenance, yes.
zinc orbitBOT
oblique trellis
So like... are patches just maintenance? Or content?
jade quartz
This patch is content
occasionally there are short patches which are bugfixes for exploits
twilit arch
you have to relinquish your house before you can make use of world transfer
unless you're transferring from a congested world to a preferred
oblique trellis
End game content? or General content?
jade quartz
this patch is introducing the Bozjan Southern Frontier, new relic weapon upgrade step, and new Skysteel crafting tools upgrade step
twilit arch
in which case you'll be refunded your gil
jade quartz
define endgame
This is content that level 80 characters will be doing
Bozja will also be accessible by level 71+ characters
it's not a new savage raid tier or an ultimate
tidal yarrow
what's "relinquishing"?
twilit arch
releasing your house
jade quartz
giving it up
oblique trellis
Ok so content I'm not at yet
tidal yarrow
and you get paid gil or..?
dim smelt
Is the eu server relatively much less populated ?
faint flare
No
dim smelt
Cool thanks
tidal yarrow
maint should be 5 hours?
oblique trellis
well...if I'm gonna start on a new server, I should get to thinking about my first main job until I can get to Rogue again
tidal yarrow
what was the time advertised tho
remote lintel
5 hours
oblique trellis
hmmm anyone know of an offline character creator?
remote lintel
there is none
zinc orbitBOT
remote lintel
oh weird
oblique trellis
ty Sam
elder sinew
Is there a repo of player created characters for those that arent creative?
faint flare
Wut
whole wasp
not really but you can go onto garlandtools and look at the presets for various NPCs
elder sinew
Oh, ppl showcase their looks, assumed you can upload it somewhere to share it
hazy shadow
Are you looking for glamour lists?
whole wasp
looks, not really. they tend to show off outfits more
hazy shadow
Or sets?
elder sinew
Just the char creation
You know how there's char creator and you save it, just want that
not glamours
People already spend hours creating it, might as well be shareable
whole wasp
not that i know of unless people wanna cosplay or something
jade quartz
there'll be some out there no doubt
but it's not really much of a thing
If you're feeling paralysed by char creation decisions then just start with a default face and pick a hairstyle
hair is the most distinctive thing generally anyway
elder sinew
Yea figure I spent a couple hours on mine, others did the same
Can't spend all time on it though, when others might've done something more spectacular already
jade quartz
I spent ages on mine and then did several fantasias over like two years to fine-tune it
and ended up close to default 
elder sinew
Especially for retainers' looks and such, just want a good copy
hazy shadow
I personally only spent like a half hour.
faint flare
3 tenants
boreal storm
With tenant system, 1 leader 3 roomies
leaden ginkgo
kk
scarlet hinge
I hear dk became warrior 2.0 is this true
jade quartz
yeah @scarlet hinge in that it has a burst window of 5 GCDs every 90 seconds
faint flare
DRK is kinda similar to warrior..
Bloos gauge is similar to beast...delirium is Inner release light...both have a damage buff they keep up
scarlet hinge
unfortunate
left moth
dark knight is just the poster job for shadowbringers if talking the cgi character. if mean how drk plays at 80 then kinda yes since Delirium window is basically inner release with mp management still being a tihng
jade quartz
which is a buff that makes the gauge spender free for 5 gcds
nah it's fine
Tanks are really well-balanced atm
and still feel distinct enough to play despite having matching equivalents in all their kits
jade quartz
SB DRK with its dark arts spam was not very well-liked
Gunbreaker is more distinct in terms of its damage rotation though
high apm rotation
dps-like
scarlet hinge
heavensward I hear was the best iteration
jade quartz
ehhhh
scarlet hinge
required skill
jade quartz
People sometimes say HW jobs "required more skill" but really they just had less QoL
also only goes for some jobs
left moth
gunbreaker tends to feel more squishy since there's a lot more spending time off the 1-2-3 (to get a shield/hp refill) than warrior (because of spending ammunition in its own combo)
scarlet hinge
I have not tried gunbreaker would it be hard to learn compared to dk
faint flare
Gnb is prerty different dps wise
left moth
most of the learning curve compared to other tanks is having most of the skills dumped on you at unlock
faint flare
In how it plays
scarlet hinge
I usually go through each skill individually and then organize it on my hotkeys
nimble holly
does anyone know what the name of this aethernet shard is called in shirogane in the northwest of the map
scarlet hinge
yes
left moth
Shirakumo Hot Springs (edit: well, should be named that. I should know since I kinda have a house in shiro but brains)
left moth
yes at 5 am cst/3am pst/6am est
scarlet hinge
last time they created new housing the server were on an hour early
hasty musk
they said they weren't doing it this time anyway
faint flare
To make it fair
left moth
server won't be up until time because of the housing (to reduce people from getting housing by dumb luck to finding out when frontier goes live before other people)
hazy shadow
Gnb is relatively easy to use just make sure not to have your superbolide on a key you'd accidentally hit
spare plinth
so im watching a video about classes and this guy explained why dragoons are a meme on the floor
zinc orbitBOT
hazy shadow
I mistook hyperbolide once as living dead an panick healed and was surprised my tank didn't die. Then I realized I was dumb and it wasn't a dk.
spare plinth
are dragoons so focused on their rotation that they forget to know where they're standing and get killed in the boss carpets?
is that why the dragoon floor tank is a meme?
left moth
it's partly from melee jobs in general tend to get players who greed for uptime, and part from animation lock from jumping
leaden ginkgo
Will the button in the launcher update if I leave the launcher open?
faint flare
No
leaden ginkgo
:<
faint flare
You need to refresh the page
leaden ginkgo
That's stupid.
left moth
only if you've downloaded the update (and refresh at time by going into settings or checking server status)
outer plank
@scarlet hinge if you played a tank before, gunbreaker should be able to be picked up no problem
left moth
and yeah it'll probably be 6.0 before the launcher is finally updated to use chrome framework (and still be a glorified web page)
faint flare
jade quartz
FATEs that are in a fixed circle with borders and can therefore have arena mechanics
like Provenance Watcher
should be fun
spare plinth
i hope 6.0 there's a new healer job just like how shb introduced gunbreaker and dancer (tank and range)
hazy shadow
It seems rather due
Since there's only 3 healer classes
And then there's everything else in between
faint flare
I want to say there's a caster and healer as new jobs....to round out each role with 4 jobs a piece
shy gull
is there any info yet on the ilvl for 5.35 relic weapon upgrade?
shy gull
cool. I re-read the notes twice! Came here to double check I didn't miss it or something.
faint flare
I expect more around 495 personally to keep within the usual 10 ilvl upgrades but it is a small upgrade
shy gull
yeah, I was wondering if it would be 90 or 95. Past upgrades have always bee 5-10, I think?
faint flare
Upgrades are usually 10...with a 5 ilvl upgrade at the end to put it on the same ilvl as savage weapons
But its already in the 5 ilvl
gloomy mortar
Are housing prices fixed? The only info I could find is from 3.3
faint flare
Their starting prices are fixed
gloomy mortar
‘Starting price’ meaning what? There’s a bidding war?
faint flare
What you see in pricing on lodestone is what they start as
Plots have devaluation timers
If its not Brought for awhile
Which reduces the price
jade quartz
Lodestone is down so this is from consolegameswiki
but it is accurate
The "class" of a plot is determined somewhat-arbitrarily by how good the view is, basically
faint flare
There's a map around on Google that shows plot grades
left moth
relocation cost table https://i.redd.it/u79uu9w13bnz.png
jade quartz
Don't count on getting anything for the minimum price, it takes days to get that low.
leaden ginkgo
Clicking server status and back to home refreshes right?
faint flare
Yes
left moth
yes. patch isn't live otherwise i would be mining right now
leaden ginkgo
did SE ban that.
faint flare
⛏️
leaden ginkgo
Lol.
faint flare
They banned 1 guy who was a big dataminer
gloomy mortar
So having more than 50 million for housing is no benefit?
jade quartz
Suspended*
faint flare
Well you'll need money to buy the permit
To actually build the house
Ontop of the plot money
jade quartz
They suspended Icarus who was our resident dataminer here, as well as another well-known dataminer from Twitter
for a few days.
left moth
and money for decoration if that's your thing (house walls, interior crap)
gloomy mortar
What is data mining in ff14
faint flare
Going into the files and extracting stuff
dusk drum
Is there a way to hide FC buffs?
gloomy mortar
🍺
faint flare
Thats just data mining in general
slate arrow
@dusk drum just FC buffs no
You can hide the Other status element which contains the FC buffs however
combat never uses other for relevant info, but for stuff like Road to 70 and exp modifiers tend to be applied under Other
jade quartz
idk what icarus is up to now.
left moth
icarus has been in the background since then to avoid any further problems with se
jade quartz
After that incident this server removed its datamining channel and no longer officially does datamining, as to have a server datamining team would basically be to have a group of users risking their service accounts
but it's not banned
can still discuss datamined stuff in #archived-lore-spoilers
delicate forge
Hey everyone, I did some quick research but can't find any answers especially since servers down, Mateus is NOT congest right now right? It's always open for character creation?
slate arrow
At worst it'll be changed to standard unless a lot of people flocked to it
but it's unlikely in any case
jade quartz
However not being congested doesn't necessarily mean it will be open for character creation due to serverlock
!faq serverlock
zinc orbitBOT
jade quartz
Server lock based on currently-online players is always in effect
delicate forge
Right
jade quartz
separate from congested status being a thing
delicate forge
okay cool, thank you as long as it's not congested I'm chilling
oblique trellis
lol been in character creator for 2 hours
gloomy mortar
Can you sell a house to another player?
slate arrow
not really
glad comet
if i keep the launcher up, when the game is back up, I don't have to exit & open up the launcher up again right?
wet seal
Does anyone know if the Play button on the PS4 launcher will turn green and clickable when servers are live, or would one need to restart the launcher?
slate arrow
no, the button will refresh eventually but there might be a delay between servers opening and the button refreshing
jade quartz
The random housing plot timer effectively makes house selling impossible
outer plank
yikes, people really huh, trying to optimize there log in time
jade quartz
It's possible to transfer a FC house though by transferring lead of FC to the buyer
if you have a 1-person FC with a house as some do
alpine shadow
i wonder if people who has the legacy account would be able to see their start again with newgame+
slate arrow
no
you can't do the beginning beginning
Only the first MSQ quest I think?
(well, we'll know when the patch is live)
alpine shadow
* A Realm Reborn - Part 1 does not include tutorials that appear immediately after beginning the game. Furthermore, introductory quests will differ based on your starting city.
only says tutorial is not included
so, idk, probably it does
gloomy mortar
How does Doman Donations work? Is the gratuity based on price of item donated or something else?
fallow juniper
Any ETA on servers being back up? I knew I should have handed in fashion report yesterday evening.... 😣
obsidian patio
Once it’s completely done you can get 40k Gil from it every week at 200% gratuity
@fallow juniper 2 hours and 47 minutes
fallow juniper
Fak!
obsidian patio
Won’t come up early due to housing wards being added
spring oasis
zinc orbitBOT
flat shell
after i downloaded the patch, i need to close and open to play at hour where server open? or just click in server stats and back works?
jade quartz
server status and back will refresh the play button yeah
outer plank
actually nvm
dreamy flume
Game back up?
obsidian patio
No
dreamy flume
😩
obsidian patio
It won’t be coming up early this time around
hasty musk
not for another 2 and a half hours
dreamy flume
Well at least I downloaded the patch
leaden ginkgo
is anyone else having a problem where they go to download the patch but the play button area is just like.... blank? it's not even like downloading the patch
elder meteor
can someone who isn't to kugane yet access a FC house in shirogane?
elder meteor
nice
elder meteor
cool thanks
I hear housing is opening up here in a few hours
so trying to make some plans
will it be available as soon as the game is live?
elder meteor
I hope I can get one of these ones I'm looking at x.x
ionic hazel
Whats the new ilvl for the resistance weapons
faint flare
||500||
ionic hazel
Ahh truuuuu fk they have 5 slots i forgot
faint flare
We dont know if they're keeping them
ionic hazel
Still no edenchoir chests tho so kek
faint flare
Anemos weapon lost its 5 slots on upgrade
leaden ginkgo
For those who have made friends on XIV, how did you encounter them?
faint flare
But it is very close
faint flare
You'll need to get the materials for each weapon
If its anything like eureka, after the initial levelling it wont be so bad
Levelling and getting around while low level was the biggest pain in the ass
vestal needle
is the new content only allowed after we beat shadowbringer?
faint flare
Yes, bojza is part of the resistance weapon line
Which is our relics
Whoch requires beating base Shadowbringers (and the lv70 24mans)
drifting burrow
hi! can someone explain to me how claiming a new plot would work? i’ve only had experience with people selling their own plots 
elder meteor
paper torrent
is there a way to refresh the "play" button within the 14 launcher or do I need to close the whole thing out
for reasons
paper torrent
ty
ionic hazel
Honestly I think Bozja would be better
No elemental bullshit
Just kill stuff do fates
leaden ginkgo
It's crazy how much people have to go through just to get a plot for a house in this game
ionic hazel
I won't have to cry getting killed in eureka
limber kindle
it is what it is, to quote the platitude
I have work at 10:30
I'll be up til 3 just to move to a medium plot from my small
🤷♂️
ionic hazel
Whens the server gonna be up
limber kindle
3
mossy tartan
For those who have made friends on XIV, how did you encounter them?
@leaden ginkgo my name was a reference to a certain game, some person knew where I got my namesake and now we’re good buddies that hangout
leaden ginkgo
They're not opening the game up until then so people don't try to game the system
jump up the blocks?
limber kindle
yeah
there are 4 like stone things
on the shore
jump up those and head to the sign
faster than aetheryte
leaden ginkgo
oki
limber kindle
unless you're on Zalera, then take the aetheryte
elder meteor
en evant across the water
leaden ginkgo
im stressed
limber kindle
because that's the plot I want
limber kindle
ty same to you
elder meteor
I hear that one's popular. any idea if lb 5/35 will go quick?
elder meteor
that's sort of why I was looking at it
limber kindle
5 is the better med of the two in the middle IMO, but it'll still go fast
elder meteor
because it's "the worst" but has good market board access and hopefully not 30 people trying to buy it
twilit arch
mansions/mediums tend to go extremely quickly
limber kindle
you literally have MB right at your front door, so I call it better
twilit arch
whether theyre "good" or not
leaden ginkgo
yeah thats why i think 11 is gonna be a pain
storm cosmos
good luck to anyone trying for housing later! I'm personally trying for tonberry as soon as possible
limber kindle
11 is not gonna be easy, but it's the one I want, and I've practiced
I've just never relocated before, so I don't know where the buttons are
leaden ginkgo
I just want a small plot. Don't care about getting some big house
limber kindle
I could still get outclicked
leaden ginkgo
ive never purchased so idk either
elder meteor
same x.x
leaden ginkgo
just a single click?
limber kindle
no
elder meteor
will that be the same for an FC?
limber kindle
it'll ask you as a residence or FC, then to verify purchase price
uncut gull
All left clicks?
limber kindle
yerp
faint flare
Yeah
faint flare
Click placard > buy > select fc/private > confirm
elder meteor
is it possible to convert a private house to a fc house later?
limber kindle
just hoping it's the same only "relocate" instead of buy
faint flare
No amaria
limber kindle
negatory. you would have to sell it
leaden ginkgo
So how are the new subdivisions going to be listed?
elder meteor
I leveled dancer to 78 just for this
ok not just for this - also use it to run around town
limber kindle
I didn't even consider that.
leaden ginkgo
i just hope my single nin tp is enough, i didnt do enough trials
limber kindle
well we'll see what happens
leaden ginkgo
i wanted 30 for the longest time and then 11 popped out like
hi im better and i have an MB
If you leave the launcher open
Will the grayed out button
Go green?
faint flare
No
You need to refresh it
Either by relogging or checking server status page via launcher
vital spoke
leaden ginkgo
Can you access other wards through an aetheryte inside another ward? Or do you have to go the npc?
little swift
pretty much just through the npcs, the front door, or the main aetheryte
leaden ginkgo
Huh. Well, at least I logged out inside the Goblet
Just gotta rush to the npc when I log in
obsidian patio
Yes maintenance will end at the scheduled time @vital spoke @elder meteor
leaden ginkgo
That's to prevent people from trying to hog the new houses
zinc orbitBOT
gritty oracle
Are the filed downloadable yet?
twilit arch
yes
gritty oracle
Cool Ty!
leaden ginkgo
Less than an hour and a half left
maiden breach
i heard someone say that the patch won't end early when there's housing expansion. is that true?
twilit arch
Correct
maiden breach
thank you!
lost river
yo, was wondering if I have to log on and switch to my home world, before using the paid server transfer?
when it goes live
faint flare
Yes you need to be on your home world for transfer
leaden ginkgo
Yup. No one's allowed in until the scheduled time.
Just gotta bum rush the server lol
lost river
oh im camping that login button my guy
thanks for the heads up my man
@faint flare thank you as well!
leaden ginkgo
Will this dynamically change to green when servers or up or do I keep needing to refresh the client?
Gotta get dat house
Refresh
Aight
Lot of OTPs be spammin' this morning
I ain't spamming anything. Waste of time. Just gonna wait until 3 minutes before the scheduled time to try
maiden breach
how do you refresh the client?
leaden ginkgo
I got nothing better to do with my time rn except watch last chance u and spam that bitch
@maiden breach just close it and reopen
maiden breach
i see. i thought there was a way to refresh it without having to type in my password again.
leaden ginkgo
There might be. I wouldn't know
gritty oracle
Say, I bought a house, but wasn't able to afford the deed. How much time do I have to do that since auto demolitions are closed?
cedar compass
So I didn't get my relic weapon before patch
I read somewhere that after the patch its gonna be harder to get?
gritty oracle
I have heard no such thing.
polar hound
No? They usually dont go back and make things harder
The new version will take some work sure
gritty oracle
The upgrade will be tougher than getting stage 1, yes. But the stage 1 relic will always have the same requirements
hot eagle
only way i can think of harder to get in the lvl70 alliances raids to unlock it since ppl will be busy in bozja but they themselves stay the same
maiden breach
thanks!
gritty oracle
@maiden breach I got told on the housing discord that the new launcher (the one that has a big "get more retainers" button) automatically refreshes, no need to click back and forth with server status
limber kindle
there will be a delay though, no? no way it's querying the server every second
grim adder
Do we know the names of the divisions that's going to be added ? o-o
grim adder
tyty!
versed lake
Is there a way to refresh the launcher without reopening it
faint flare
Check the server status page
leaden ginkgo
You see what SE has done to people? Lol. People going crazy over these housing plots
dreamy flume
They should lower the amount of data houses use up, ex furniture, so that everyone could get one.
limber kindle
Here's a house. price is $250k. Okay mr. real estate guy, here's 250k. Oh sorry, you were outbid.
But the price was 250k.
It's never as easy to get a house as having the money and finding land. 😛
leaden ginkgo
That don't fill me with confidence. Lol@limber kindle
dreamy flume
Last I checked everyone has a house or apartment, so it's easy.
limber kindle
Sorry, mate. Been in that situation IRL, so whaddayagonnado
homelessness has been defeated!?
Holla!
dreamy flume
The problem with apartments in the game is that they dont feel real. They dont even have a window lol
limber kindle
BUT!
Your AC unit doesn't bust a pipe, flooding your apartment while you're at work
dreamy flume
You live inside a shoe box
limber kindle
So... give and take
leaden ginkgo
Funny enough, MS2 had a similar housing system and didn't have the same issues
this has been added, so it makes it look more cozy
dreamy flume
Granted. This is the only MMO I have played that has housing
leaden ginkgo
WoW does not have housing?
dreamy flume
Nope
gritty oracle
limber kindle
It has garrisons, that's the closest thing to housing
leaden ginkgo
what's that?
dreamy flume
So will everyone be going to kugane for a house?
gritty oracle
From what I've heard, LB = Mist > Shiro >>> Goblet for popularity
if your que position is 1k+, just go directly to goblet
grim adder
damn i'm parked in limsa right now 
gloomy mortar
There’s a queue?
dreamy flume
Jesus. 1k? I have never seen that in my server
gritty oracle
Yeah login queue because everyone's scrambling to get in
leaden ginkgo
I logged out inside the Goblet
dreamy flume
I logged out in kugane
leaden ginkgo
Hopefully they don't force me out. Lol
If they do, f it
I don't need a house look
gritty oracle
People dislike Shiro because the environment is very gaudy and caters to a very specific vibe, and allegedly the interior is hard to decorate because of the red beams or something.
leaden ginkgo
Lol
gritty oracle
🤷
leaden ginkgo
Huh...
limber kindle
I'm in Gridania. gotta get lb11
dreamy flume
So game comes back exactly in 1 hour? Or could be less? I've never waited for a patch.
leaden ginkgo
Quick question: do you have to actually buy a house after you get the plot? Or does the house auto build after buying the plot?
limber kindle
won't be less
100% won't be
since new housing is being released
you have to buy the permit yes
within 45 days
faint flare
You need to buy a permit to build
limber kindle
or you lose the land
faint flare
Well auto demolish is off
leaden ginkgo
Bugger
faint flare
So
limber kindle
that counts as autodemolish?
faint flare
You wont lose it
limber kindle
I was never sure
faint flare
Yeah
dreamy flume
The price to pay on the placard will be how much for a small?
faint flare
Cause you need to enter the house tonreser it
gloomy mortar
LB in housing means what
pliant grotto
lavender beds
limber kindle
Lavender Beds
zinc orbitBOT
faint flare
See pricing for house price
pliant grotto
will houses that people give up in other wards for the new wards be immediately available for purchase?
faint flare
Andnplots
limber kindle
not immediately no
faint flare
No nezu
leaden ginkgo
Maintenance ends on time today right
limber kindle
but relocation yes
faint flare
Yes
leaden ginkgo
Zzzz
gloomy mortar
Can a FC own 2 houses?
limber kindle
nope
limber kindle
that's how you end up with California's real estate issues 😛
gloomy mortar
Can’t change personal to FC?
limber kindle
nope
leaden ginkgo
A person can own one personal per world, and 8 free company houses per world
I heard the had to add the invisible timer cause FCs were literally buying up entire wards
3 free company houses must be on different characters
Of what you could only have eight on one world
thick bolt
Invisible timer doesn't change anything, you're alone vs an FC who can have 50 people clicking the sign
limber kindle
Shy
thick bolt
all it does is fuck people who wanted personal housing.
limber kindle
just saying I beat 25 people as a single person
obsidian patio
The invisible timer was added to stop the sale of housing to other players
limber kindle
_>
thick bolt
I do not believe you
gloomy mortar
What is the invisible timer?
obsidian patio
The timer before an empty plot can be bought
limber kindle
there's a random timer that starts from the time a plot is empty to when it can be sold
warped nest
It is a hidden timer that unlock the plot for sales
limber kindle
rumor has it it's been as short as 30m, sometimes as long as 24 hours
usually 6-8 though
thick bolt
the servers aren't up right?
limber kindle
nope
obsidian patio
It can be longer than 24 hours
gloomy mortar
Ah, so that is why I hear about camping
limber kindle
yep
warped nest
Previously without this, players paid a plot owner to relinquish their house as they stand next to it to purchase the house
limber kindle
I sat at my current plot for like 13 hours
leaden ginkgo
Camping is the worst on Belmont
limber kindle
super sad
faint flare
I dont think we know the maximum
leaden ginkgo
Balmung
warped nest
With a hidden timer, there is no point to pay house owner anymore
pliant grotto
im on balmung and im so scared lol
limber kindle
I'm glad I'm on a pref server
faint flare
Fucking run guy
leaden ginkgo
You're screwed dude
elder meteor
lol balmung. good luck
pliant grotto
i shouldve went for goblet damnit ;-;
gloomy mortar
So when someone relinquishes a plot, how is the public notified?
pliant grotto
im going for mists
faint flare
They aren't
warped nest
They don't
obsidian patio
They’re not
leaden ginkgo
It's not
limber kindle
they aren't. you can see it in the ward list
warped nest
People just check frequently
leaden ginkgo
Am I the only one that thinks that the housing issue is a bit silly given how well other systems work in this game?
warped nest
Not the only one
pliant grotto
i wish we could have 100+ wards
limber kindle
The housing system works exactly as well as it should be
Look at how many of us are waiting
twilit arch
this isn't the place to discuss it anyway
warped nest
Agreed
twilit arch
the system is what it is, either #general-discussion or #rants to complain about it
limber kindle
leaden ginkgo
Not complaining at all.
gloomy mortar
When did the invisible timer become a thing
gritty oracle
4.something
This is probably a stupid question, but if I have youtube uploads going on, can it affect loading screen times and overall response time?
gloomy mortar
If you relinquish a house, do you get money back
twilit arch
no
obsidian patio
You only get money back from auto-demolition (not currently active) or moving from a congested to preferred server
gloomy mortar
How much back
obsidian patio
80% of the price you bought the plot at, at least for automatic demolition
lost river
@gritty oracle no not really, the server just needs to know where you want to go and if any other players need to load in, you load assests all the same
obsidian patio
I’d have to double check if transferring gives the same amount
silver ruin
does refreshing server status on the launcher then hitting back work for updating the launcher if its playable? or should i restart the launcher once maint ends? (regarding housing savage)
gritty oracle
thanks!
silver ruin
ok thanks
thick bolt
former means first one right? I'm ssuper tired I'm not suppose to be up this late
lmao
silver ruin
yes
thick bolt
isn't maintance suppose to be done at 5?
silver ruin
yes
thick bolt
est*
limber kindle
no
leaden ginkgo
No
silver ruin
5 cst
limber kindle
3pst
silver ruin
/ 6 est
gloomy mortar
6est
thick bolt
limber kindle
coffee, yoga, sit
leaden ginkgo
See? That's why you don't trust Apple products for anything important
Used to work for them.
gloomy mortar
Same
zinc orbitBOT
thick bolt
I hate apple
leaden ginkgo
Are dyes good for making money?
thick bolt
god I was forced into this phone
obsidian patio
The plain craftable ones, maybe
thick bolt
depends on your server gotta always check mb
glad comet
depends
obsidian patio
Mostly the popular dyes like Dalamud Red, Snow White, Soot Black
obsidian patio
But as always check Marketboard
gusty pasture
so, that bozjan front thing is the way to upgrade the current relic weapons right?
gloomy mortar
Beast tribe dyes sell for a lot on the MB
leaden ginkgo
yeah, poetics, light farming, etc
thick bolt
hmmmm?
faint flare
||heavensward fates and dungeons||
gusty pasture
Ever since I did the anime weapons, I started running out of poetics
faint flare
I didn't mind eureka personally
Jusy levelling and the initial getting around was ass
gusty pasture
kinda wish I didn't buy every ironworks, shire, and scaevan gear for all jobs
faint flare
But once you levelled it was fine
gusty pasture
could've used all of that for anima stuff
leaden ginkgo
30 minutes left
gusty pasture
so I'm gonna be really upset if my bozjan relic needs poetics to upgrade
faint flare
||it wont||
gloomy mortar
How do you stop discord from auto-scrolling to newest message? I’m trying to catch up reading posts from ~30 mins ago and it keeps sending me to the bottom
thick bolt
fate grand ordering strong?
gusty pasture
how do you predownload
obsidian patio
@light delta go to the server status page
gusty pasture
ahh so that's what it was
digital ice
So if I stay on the launcher and press the login button AFTER server is up, I'll be good?
obsidian patio
Yes.
digital ice
Ty
digital ice
I mean waiting on the launcher and choosing not to press the login button
Until the next hour
gusty pasture
wait what the bozjan front is SHB Eureka?
obsidian patio
Yes
digital ice
Yes
obsidian patio
It’s also the SHB equivalent of POTD
gusty pasture
bummer. I never did Eureka because of all the complicated stuff it had when I finished stormblood a month ago
digital ice
Thank you
gloomy mortar
Are there any weapons below lvl50 that glow?
leaden ginkgo
Where are the smaller plots usually placed in a ward?
I figure people will rush to the bigger ones first, leaving the small ones open
obsidian patio
@gloomy mortar nope
@leaden ginkgo pretty much everywhere
They’re the most common plot in a ward after all
gritty oracle
Will Eureka die permanently because there's a newer shinier eureka?
obsidian patio
No?
Eureka is still needed if you want to do the SB relic
And Eureka still has plenty of exclusive stuff/rewards in it
It’s also a great source of poetics, which Bozja doesn’t give. (At least from my interpretation of the way they listed the rewards)
gloomy mortar
Any other way to upgrade Crystarium gear than buying it for 3000 nuts ?
obsidian patio
Run puppets bunker for the weekly token to exchange for the upgrade items
faint flare
Drops from eden verse Savage and trade the coins from copied factory and puppet bunker for them
gloomy mortar
How about those swords that you need to get the Crystarium weapons?
leaden ginkgo
Trust me. Compared to discussion, this channel is calm
leaden ginkgo
What are the chances people forgo housing for the other new content?
gloomy mortar
Savage what
latent prism
do I have to restart the launcher to click on the play button or will it be green when its time
faint flare
Refresh the page via the server status page
obsidian patio
@leaden ginkgo probably zero. Also it only takes a few minutes to look for empty housing plots
@gloomy mortar eden verse savage
latent prism
i see, thx
leaden ginkgo
Welp.... Looks like I better bust out the Jack
patent citrus
do puppet bunker and copied factory once a week
and then you can use that to upgrade crystarium gear
wooden hawk
question, can you spam the "PLAY" button until it gets available?
so you start the instant the servers get online
obsidian patio
Sure
wooden hawk
so theoretically the fastest way to get in first would be click-botting the play button?
wooden hawk
that's why I said theoretically
obsidian patio
The bot in this instance would just be a fast mouse clicker
elder meteor
where do you go to switch wards if you're already in a ward?
patent citrus
you mean macro? lol
lethal crown
the queue wont be that bad even at release i think
obsidian patio
Interact with the NPC that you’re by when you enter the housing district via the Aetheryte
Or try to exit the district through the physical exit and choose to enter another ward
wooden hawk
the queue wont be that bad even at release i think
@lethal crown every second counts when going for a mansion
gloomy mortar
How does PvP work with ranged DPS? 2 players just stand there and shoot each other?
elder meteor
well one of you dies eventually presumably
jade quartz
There isn't 1v1 duelling PvP
obsidian patio
There’s making use of the terrain to Line of Sight people, using distance/kiting to get the enemy to where you want
jade quartz
(well there is but it's friendlies for pure novelty)
obsidian patio
Like the rest of your group
cosmic condor
gl all
leaden ginkgo
Gl
lost grove
Where to lvl from 60 to 70?
obsidian patio
Heaven-on-high if you have a slow dungeon queue, if not then dungeons.
!faq altlvlguide
zinc orbitBOT
gloomy mortar
Why is there a wiki page for Bozja when it hasn’t been released yet? 😮
obsidian patio
Lore?
gloomy mortar
It has all the dialogue
obsidian patio
Say, As I can’t test this in another channel, does anyone want to be a test subject for a quick second?
hopefully mods won’t get angy
obsidian patio
Give it time
dreamy flume
Where should I go for a house if position in queue is 400?
gloomy mortar
Eulmore
dreamy flume
?
obsidian patio
@dreamy flume go to the housing wards?
patent citrus
obsidian patio
No offense, but if you wanted to get a house you should’ve logged out in the housing district or right by the entrance
dreamy flume
That's not what I meant
patent citrus
i mean it's not like i'm aiming for a house or anything 😂
dreamy flume
I'm in kugane
dreamy flume
Jesus
obsidian patio
Pick the newest 3 wards (22, 23, 24) and run like hell
gloomy mortar
When you log out in front of a house, then you log in, where do you appear?
dreamy flume
Someone said that if queue is too high to go to gobbler instead cuz kugane will be full
obsidian patio
The same spot
patent citrus
in front of the house i assume
dreamy flume
So I wonder if I should just tele there instead
whole wasp
if you didnt log out in goblet, the people who logged out in goblet would have gotten them first anyway
twilit arch
meara go back to #general-discussion
whole wasp
the decision of where to logout should have been made 6 hours ago, not now.
lost grove
Is mateus still preferred?
dreamy flume
I did make it lol
leaden ginkgo
Ok. I managed to buy a small plot. Now how do I get a house?
obsidian patio
Looks like it, yes
dreamy flume
Just wondering if it mattered seeing the queue
twilit arch
in the housing menu there should be an option to buy a house permit
gloomy mortar
I bought a large
obsidian patio
Double-check the marketboard though
Sometimes the same permits can be cheaper
Not sure if the permit still needs to match the district anymore
gusty pasture
whats the diference between a house and an apartment?
fresh lodge
It doesn't iirc
gusty pasture
cant i place the same stuff in an apartment?
leaden ginkgo
Aww yeah
fresh lodge
Just has to be the same size
gusty pasture
I just dont have a yard or whatever
keen spade
does anyone know the ilvl of the new relics?
twilit arch
houses are bigger
but yes you can put the same things inside of an apartment as you can a house
500 @keen spade
keen spade
ty
jade quartz
Apartments have no yard
no outdoor furnishings
no garden
no placing ya retainers or mailbox
analog gate
some furnitures are outdoors only, like striking dummy
jade quartz
all outdoor furnishings are outdoors only
outdoor furnishing and indoor furnishing are totally different categories of item
patent citrus
i deleted all my outdoor furnishing 😂
dreamy flume
Nice. Got me a smaller in kugane
gusty pasture
well I don't have a couple million on hand. guess I'll settle on an apartment
patent citrus
gratrs
dreamy flume
This place is emptier than expected lol
leaden ginkgo
I got in with no queue and went straight to ward 24
I just bought the first small plot I could find
twilit arch
just going to note, that this channel is not for chitchat
storm cosmos
trying to register a character in tonberry but its full atm, is that just because of the traffic due to patch day or is it still locked?
leaden ginkgo
Sorry
dreamy flume
Me too straight to 24 and a lot of small houses are open
sour ruin
If a world goes to standard from preferred is there a grace period for road to 70 or is it gone now
dreamy flume
Where do I buy the actual house?
leaden ginkgo
Where do you buy furnishings?
twilit arch
!status Tonberry
zinc orbitBOT
leaden ginkgo
@dreamy flume in the housing menu
whole wasp
Tonberry's status didnt change this patch so its still congested yup
twilit arch
its still complete locked to both new characters and transfers @storm cosmos
kind eagle
Is the house free?
storm cosmos
damn was looking forward to it... oh well can't be helped now I guess
kujata it is lmao
whole wasp
Is the house free?
no
twilit arch
no, house permit costs a bit of gil
patent citrus
i think small plot cause 5 mil right?
kind eagle
is the permit from FC place?
obsidian patio
@sour ruin no grace period for people who join when it is standard
patent citrus
and large like 60 mil
twilit arch
450k for smalls, 1mil for for medium and 3mil for large
obsidian patio
Stand on the plot and go to the housing menu
whole wasp
thats the house price
patent citrus
only 450k???
whole wasp
you gotta buy the land too
patent citrus
oh the land
whole wasp
the plot*
twilit schooner
4 mil for a small one?
violet forge
yay
jade quartz
small plot of land costs between 3 and 3.75mil, construction permit costs 450k.
patent citrus
i got the gil, but can barely manage my apartment let alone house >.>
leaden ginkgo
3,750,000 for the landlord
violet forge
im in que. only 666 more people to go
leaden ginkgo
Land
450k for the house
Which is way bigger than I thought it'd be
It's got two floors
gloomy mortar
Can you buy the land and then just put up a tent?
leaden ginkgo
Lol
twilit arch
technically, no
but with auto demolish off you can squat so to speak
normally, you'd have 45 days to build the house
kind eagle
Where do you buy the land?
gloomy mortar
So no Yol living style
low kayak
Really quick but you don't need to purchase a housing permit if you relocated or do anything else once you relocate right?
leaden ginkgo
Where do you buy furnishings for the house?
twilit arch
no, dont need to buy a permit if you're relocating
two of the housing district npcs sell furnishings
but a fair number of them are crafted
whole wasp
Where do you buy furnishings for the house?
Marketboard, also theres a furniture vendor inside the housing district
warped nest
Either NPC or crafted
twilit arch
so either gonna hve to make yourself or buy from mb
leaden ginkgo
@whole wasp oh cool
warped nest
A very small amount of housing items are dropped from PvE contents
whole wasp
NPC only sell very basic stuff tho
elder meteor
where do you get the housing permits?
thick bolt
How do I actually buy a house now?
whole wasp
Stand on the plot and go to the housing menu
leaden ginkgo
Wait..
thick bolt
oh okay
leaden ginkgo
How is Bebop a forbidden word?
warped nest
Here or in game?
leaden ginkgo
In game
warped nest
That I won't know
leaden ginkgo
Or is The the forbidden word?
elder meteor
we have some time to put a house up before it kicks us from the plot, right?
leaden ginkgo
As in the word "The"?
twilit arch
yes, Amaria
patent citrus
oh how long till people get kicked?
patent citrus
oh that one
zinc orbitBOT
silk raptor
im an idiot, why cant i leave the camp in bozja?
twilit arch
no
there's 2 timers technically for it
you have 45 days to construct the house
if you don't, your plot goes poof
kind eagle
Have to pay rent?
whole wasp
nope
obsidian patio
Just have to enter the house
twilit arch
if you've constructed the house then you have 45 days to enter your house
obsidian patio
No extra Gil payment needed
leaden ginkgo
How do the guest settings work?
twilit arch
or it goes poof
whole wasp
technically your rent is the sub since you gotta log in
twilit arch
but again, auto demolish is currently disabled so neither of those are a worry atm
kind eagle
I wonder how small is the small
gloomy mortar
It’s tiny
elder meteor
does anything come with the construction permit? like not sure if it actually puts a house up or just lets us build
obsidian patio
Compared to an apartment, a bit bigger with a downstairs the same size
The permit just plops the barebones house down
Does not come with extra furniture
elder meteor
can you change it later if you decide you liked one of the other styles better?
kind eagle
yall going for large?
twilit arch
yes
elder meteor
I got a medium for my fc and a small for me
twilit arch
can change exterior style if you want
kind eagle
u can build ur house in fc place?
obsidian patio
You can also mix between district looks
elder meteor
so it doesn't matter which permit we start with?
obsidian patio
..
Not sure on that front
You can freely mix district-exterior items after the house is placed
gloomy mortar
Can you put a small house on a large lot?
obsidian patio
Not sure about using a permit from another district
elder meteor
do you have to get a mini-aetheryte to teleport to it?
obsidian patio
Yes
whole wasp
Yup
twilit arch
can buy with gc seals
elder meteor
can you get one for a personal house also?
obsidian patio
Yes