questions-and-help

[raw solstice]

if you have two dps with red in a group the ranged swap

[winged cobalt]

oh yeah

derp

my group did that

and i actually never once looked at it

yet did it right for all 8 clears

[wintry chasm]

Huh

That's called "float"?

[winged cobalt]

yep

[gleaming mist]

ranged flex, float, swap w/e

same meaning

[raw solstice]

"floating" is basically someone that flexes to a necessary position

[winged cobalt]

the floater just swaps whatever group needs that

[vocal shell]

thank you

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[outer plank]

does quick synthesis increase the chances of getting hq mats if i use hq materials, or does it just depend on your perception?

[rotund sable]

It does not

[tacit atlas]

I would say that it's completely random

But i haven't really tested that myself

[rotund sable]

There's some text somewhere in that screen that confirms that hq mats mean nothing to quick synthesis

[tacit atlas]

I'm pretty sure that failure rate does go down with higher stars

[twilit arch]

perception also does nothing for crafter

[tacit atlas]

Nah I meant for the stat thing

[twilit arch]

and no, they changed how quick synth works

in that so long as you meet the min craftsmanship, it wont fail

[wintry chasm]

does quick synthesis increase the chances of getting hq mats if i use hq materials, or does it just depend on your perception?
@outer plank Perception isn't used for crafters and it isn't influenced by HQ materials. It should just depend on the hitting of the required stats/going over them

I'm not 100% sure on the specifics

[keen fable]

how do i know what is and is not a tank buster

||mt. gulg|| had 2 bosses with tank busters that outright killed me w/o scholar shields and a cd used

but i had no idea which ones were tank busters

im still not 100% sure, besides rake on the first boss

the last boss had one but im not sure what the name was

[analog gate]

it's sforzando or something like that

[gleaming mist]

something like catechism for the 2nd boss

for mt gulg you have to guess your first time through

[keen fable]

its hard to save vengeance and rampart for those

when i dont know what they are :v

[analog gate]

usually in dungeons, the tankbusters won't kill you outright if you're full health

and not having vuln stacks

[vestal needle]

whens the patch?

[keen fable]

well i wasnt really ever at full health

[tacit atlas]

I know that they are slightly different since I somehow shielded the first time I saw the tankbusters there

[keen fable]

tomorrow @vestal needle

[tacit atlas]

13

[analog gate]

in 24 hours 30 mins

maintenance start i mean

[tacit atlas]

Or if you mean 5.4 then December

[gleaming mist]

!maint

does that not work here

nice

[tacit atlas]

Huh

[keen fable]

its at 10PM PDT tomorrow evening

[analog gate]

if you want to be safe, try using your spammable cooldown everytime you see the boss cast something you don't know

and use rampart/30% to cover everything else

[potent lava]

is it actually possible to do coils solo at lvl 60? at least the first five turns?

[wintry chasm]

It hasn't worked here for ages and ages @gleaming mist

@potent lava 60? Lol no

[obsidian patio]

Maybe just T1

[wintry chasm]

Ehhh

I'm feeling confident you wouldn't even manage T1

[obsidian patio]

#retired-na-datacenters is your best bet

[wintry chasm]

Unless maybe you are a tank or healer

[tacit atlas]

And even then it would be super slow

Your best bet is to just pf it and mention first time bonus

If you just want the clear

[leaden ginkgo]

Didnt they get rid of Parry? Im seeing it on the Camouflage skill for gunbreaker

[patent citrus]

hmm dam, looks like my pc need to be used somewhere else and now i need to buy another gaming pc/console to play ffxiv

any advice on which one to choose?

[limber kindle]

@wintry chasm When you say "30% of the minimum plot price" are you talking like if they've sat? So instead of the default price of 3m for a small plot, it'd calculate at the price of 1.4m?

[wintry chasm]

Yes

[limber kindle]

Big oof

[patent citrus]

console vs pc which one would you prefer?

[tacit atlas]

They recently announced that ffxiv will be on ps5

[wintry chasm]

Controls? @patent citrus

[junior wind]

PC unless I can't get this goddamn chair to stop creaking

[tacit atlas]

You could do that I guess

I myself prefer pc

[wintry chasm]

If we talk controls, the controller is better

[limber kindle]

o_o

/veto as a healer

[wintry chasm]

If you mean in general, PC is better because it's a PC

[twilit arch]

parry as a stat is essentially dead, yes. it only exists in the files more or less for defensive calculations/gunbreaker's camo @leaden ginkgo

[oblique trellis]

you're sure it was XIV and not XVI? Cause they did announce XVI

[limber kindle]

no, XIV is gonna be coming to PS5

[tacit atlas]

lol

Live letter

[patent citrus]

yeah i heard ps4 got a problem running ffxiv (low fxp)

just wondering if ps5 won't have this problem anymore

[tacit atlas]

It was announced in there that the ps5 will get the ps4 version

[soft tundra]

Its not gonna be a new version, just the ps4 version but with better load times basically

[obsidian patio]

I never really notice low FPS outside of massively swamped areas.

[rigid pecan]

PC. Just because on ps4 some of keybinds won't lock in.

[wintry chasm]

I never really notice low FPS outside of massively swamped areas.
^

[patent citrus]

i think my concern is more like electricity consumption/space/console price compared to building a new pc

[wintry chasm]

PS4 doesn't run that bad

It's just when there a hundred people in one place

[static radish]

How do the forename and surname of your character show up in game?

[patent citrus]

new gaming pc would need to allocate much bigger space compared to a console where you can just stuck it beside your tv

[rigid pecan]

I just went to ps4 from pc for necessity and I haven't honestly felt a real difference.

[patent citrus]

does console really consume much less power? how does that work?

[wintry chasm]

@static radish depends on your settings. By default it's just your full name

[patent citrus]

last console i bought was psx dam

[wintry chasm]

"Jikiki Jiki" for example

[static radish]

Cool thanks

Lol world is full??

I guess I chose too old of a world?

[obsidian patio]

!faq serverlock

[zinc orbit]

Why can't I enter this server?

Standard, Preferred, and New Servers will dynamically open and close themselves from newly created characters depending on how many players are online. To ensure you're able to make a new character on your server try waiting or doing so at a less active time of day.
Congested Servers will not unlock for new players or transfers until Square Enix removes the Congested Status.

[static radish]

So it's only because it's my first time connecting?

Oh, well I'm in

[patent citrus]

you mean you were in a queue?

[static radish]

Yeah

[patent citrus]

ah yeah happens very often for me since im playing in congested server -_-

[static radish]

I knew this game was huge (popular) but I didn't realize it was that busy

[limber kindle]

yeah, it's pretty darn popular

[static radish]

Max settings is niiiice

[haughty spade]

where can I go to repair armor?

[rigid pecan]

Find a mender in a city or camp

[haughty spade]

what does the icon look like?

[twilit arch]

icon looks like this on the map

[tacit atlas]

That or use dark matter

[jade ocean]

sorry i just started again . left off at shadowbringers ending. where do i get tomstones of allegory trying to boost up my ilvl

[twilit arch]

Run lvl 80 dungeons, do roulettes as a lvl 80, kill A/S shadowbringers hunts

Can only use dark matter if you have the appropriate crafter leveled to self repair

[potent lava]

is there a way to find out all available blue marker quests across the world, and not just the area

[tacit atlas]

Like in-game? Not that I know of

[frank frigate]

how does the roll work on puppet's bunker? i did it for the first time last week and i seemed unable to need after some time, i didnt undertand why

or greed

[twilit arch]

puppet's bunker has a weekly lock out on it

[tacit atlas]

Yup

[twilit arch]

so you can only get one piece of gear from it a week, in addition to 1 coin and the clusters

which is indicated at the bottom of the duty finder window by Rewards Received (x/3)

[tacit atlas]

You can get 1 piece of gear per week

[frank frigate]

ohh

[twilit arch]

so 2/3 would mean you've received your coin +clusters for the week but not won any gear

[frank frigate]

and if i get by greed, then i wont be able to need other piece later ?

[tacit atlas]

Oh? Where does it say that?

Yup

[frank frigate]

that's what must happened to me last week. Ok, thank you! n.n

[twilit arch]

at the bottom right hand of the duty finder window when you select puppet's bunker

[tacit atlas]

Ahh, I see where it shows up

Thanks

[gusty pasture]

hi, where can I unlock the trial for this?

[vapid veldt]

weapon's refrain (ultimate)

gonna need 7 other people and around 100 hours

[warped nest]

O12S

Wait

[west spruce]

ultima is o8s

[gusty pasture]

holy shit I have not done a single one of stormblood's raids haha

[warped nest]

My bad

[gusty pasture]

o hwell

[warped nest]

O8S

[gusty pasture]

same for the bahamut weapons?

[warped nest]

Yeah

That's why they cost 1 totem

Not because they are giving it away for free

It is because they are one of the three hardest content in game

[remote lintel]

because it's the biggest pain in the ass you will ever encounter

[warped nest]

Unending Coil of Bahamut
Ultimate Weapon Ultimate
The Epic of Alexander

They last around 10-15 minutes each, but take weeks-months to learn and practice

[keen fable]

nah first try it ez

do new mechanics show up in them or is it just more harshly punished versions of the same ones

[little swift]

both

[remote lintel]

there's different mechs in ultimates

[vapid veldt]

it's like... reinterpretations of old mechs

[little swift]

there are variations of old mechanics

[remote lintel]

it's not the same fight

[little swift]

as well as new stuff

[remote lintel]

at least from what I've seen in "ff14 diagrams that look like shitposts"

[keen fable]

sounds easy enough

[vapid veldt]

a wise person once said, keeping a static together long enough to clear is the hardest part of ultimate

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[keen fable]

what's the eden storyline

which quest

do i need to start with

[warped nest]

South west of the main aetheryte in Crystalium, like a few steps away

If you reached the marketboard area, you are too far south

[little swift]

quest is "the middle of nowhere"

[keen fable]

tyvm

[ripe hound]

Where do I find regular Gatherer Collectables?

For lv 71-79

Also what's this question mark thing?

[raven sage]

It means you haven't gathered it yet

[ripe hound]

kk

Thanks

[hallow grove]

What exactly is a "raid buff"?

And what is "single/double weave"?

[faint flare]

Raid buffs are buffs that increase the teams damage in some way

[vapid veldt]

!faq weaving

[zinc orbit]

Quick guide to weaving/clipping

Click the image, then 'Open original'

[faint flare]

As for weaving, its using off globals abilities while waiting on the global cooldown

[vapid veldt]

everything there's to know about weaving is in the graphic

[hallow grove]

Ah that makes sense, I just didn't know there were terms for it

It's my first mmo, but thanks! Appreciate it

[spare plinth]

when you're gathering materials for crafting by slaying mobs (fleece for wool for example), should you do it as a class closest to the mob for some reason?

[rigid pecan]

class level? I don't see why not. You get exp for the kill.

[whole wasp]

Nope doesnt matter

I would use a ranged class if you can oneshot them to move around while attacking tho

Oh you can consider using BLU since BLU gets a massive exp bonus to killing mobs in the overworld.

[rigid pecan]

You should use your chocobo also if you're close enough in level since you can also get them exp

[ashen pendant]

On blue mage, is it just me or does glower do more than drill cannon? I don't know how differently physical and magic damage is calculated

[spare plinth]

i dunno usually i get more drops if im a job thats a few levels higher than the mob i want to farm

cause i dont want to rely on using marketboard often for crafting

and it can be tedious to jump between worlds while keeping an eye on the price from mogboard

[rigid pecan]

I farm only and haven't noticed a difference in number of items dropped. Quality, maybe. But not quantity

[spare plinth]

i imagine selling materials from gathering via retainers can help make a few gil

[hot crane]

How clunky and hard is monk? Friend asked me about easier class but I have no idea about monk.

[keen fable]

what are these

with the arrow pointing down

i thought they were beast tribes originally but they are side content

and i havent unlocked any shb tribes

[gloomy ice]

All sidequests in ShB scale to your level if you're 70+

[keen fable]

oh so thats what that means?

[gloomy ice]

Yeah. Those arrows on a quest marker means they have level sync.

[spare plinth]

will that help get a few gil, have retainers farm materials and then sell it on the marketboard

[keen fable]

depending on what they bring back yes

[hot crane]

Ur mean goal is to finish the story

[keen fable]

monk is clunky

[hot crane]

And dwarf tribe quest will be priority

[keen fable]

to answer your question

its also getting reworked in 5.4

[haughty spade]

how does potd wor? someone explained it to me before but dont understand.

[hot crane]

Does it suck like drg or worse?

[keen fable]

drg is very smooth

so no its not like drg at all

[spare plinth]

msq helps give a good source of gil

[hot crane]

I was drg I hate the class in savage run

[keen fable]

what part of it @haughty spade

[spare plinth]

but what would also help get alot of gil

[jade quartz]

DRG doesn’t suck by any stretch of the imagination

[hot crane]

It's decent in normal run tho

[keen fable]

DRG is a very smooth class

monk is leagues different

[haughty spade]

I got to level 51 and someone said I can keep doing that to level fast?

[keen fable]

pops, continue msq

[spare plinth]

is it still a meme that DRG floor in dungeons or raids

[jade quartz]

Monk has some fairly objective issues with its kit though

[spare plinth]

pops?

[keen fable]

potd is used for alt jobs when queue times are generally 15-20+ minutes for dps

its very unoptimal below that

[jade quartz]

That will always be a meme

[haughty spade]

levleing a dps

[jade quartz]

Originated from FF11

[keen fable]

is it your first job, or an alt job pops

[jade quartz]

But it’s not actually accurate

Just an old meme

[haughty spade]

alt

[keen fable]

do dungeons

potd is rarely better atm

because queue times recently havent been long

and even when it is better, its not better by much

potd is a headache

[leaden ginkgo]

you also can check alts pretty quick in potd, because you artificially level much quicker inside and you get to see how their skills work

[hot crane]

For potd it is better to get at least a support class

[jade quartz]

No

[keen fable]

yes, at level 30+, you can see how a job will work up to level 60

[jade quartz]

PotD is most beneficial if you are a dps job

[keen fable]

outside of that, there's not much use to it unless you want to be super optimal with xp

and even in most cases atm, its not optimal for dps either

[hot crane]

By that I mean a support in pt

[jade quartz]

Healer and tanks have little reason to go there because they have fast dungeon queues already

[hot crane]

1/4

[jade quartz]

There is no support role

[hot crane]

I say so since pug is a mess most of the time

[keen fable]

wut?

[jade quartz]

It’s rather brain dead content

[keen fable]

^

[hot crane]

One can try their luck but might not be able to clear it.

[jade quartz]

Pugs are fine lol

[keen fable]

potd is not hard

until the later floors

and even then

eh

[hot crane]

I know but don't overestimate pug pt

[jade quartz]

If you have a friend to help you then you should have them heal or tank so you can get fast queues for regular dungeons instead

You’re greatly exaggerating the average pug experience

[halcyon grail]

So I never have to worry about losing an apartment?

[jade quartz]

Apartments are forever

[hot crane]

It is fine if you do it with experienced friends

Yet for pug better do it safe way

[jade quartz]

Duty finder pugs are fine for everything below extreme difficulty

[vapid veldt]

unless you're in the magical land that is jp

[hot crane]

I already have the impression that potd pug is meme already sry

[keen fable]

potd pug is more than fine

its an easy pug

most pugs are easy

[jade quartz]

Well your impression is wrong and you’re foolish to have it

[keen fable]

until you get to extremes, like jack says

said**

[hot crane]

Everyone has diff experienc that is all I can say

[keen fable]

sounds like you have negativity bias

[jade quartz]

Not in this case

[keen fable]

either way, no real reason to worry about potd pops, should be fairly easy IF you decide to do it

[jade quartz]

You’re incorrect about the average PotD pug

[hot crane]

Watch ur language jack

[jade quartz]

And you have no experience.

[little swift]

no one's talking to you poorly friend

if anyone is hostile, its you

[neat schooner]

Question, Im noticing that during duty finder, I'm getting a guaranteed drop for my job for finishing the dungeon, but this isn't always the case? I've been leveling a new job and have guaranteed gotten a piece of armor for my job each time, however I tried farming for a specific piece for Glamour from a lv 50 dungeon while my character is 60 and I didn't get any guaranteed drops. Anyone know how it works?

[jade quartz]

I have not used any improper language

[little swift]

that applies to all leveling dungeons but not 50/60/70/80 dungeons @neat schooner

[jade quartz]

@neat schooner you only get guaranteed drops on leveling dgs

[little swift]

so you would have to grind it out for the 50 dungeons

[neat schooner]

Well that explains it, damn

[keen fable]

wait you get a guaranteed drop?

wot

is it like, it shows up in rolls

or is it just put in after completion

[jade quartz]

Straight into your inventory

[hot crane]

It depends on ur roll

[little swift]

they just dump it in your inventory

after you finish the dungeon

[jade quartz]

Not roll

[hot crane]

And if the others pass the drops

[jade quartz]

No AW

[little swift]

AW that's not correct at all

[gritty oracle]

Servers shut down in like 4 hours, correct?

[jade quartz]

!maint

[little swift]

no its tomorrow

like 23 hours from now

[gritty oracle]

...oh

and come up 24 hours afterwards then, right? On Wednesday noon for GMT+2

[little swift]

3am pst is when it finishes

its a short maintenance because its not a major patch

[rigid pecan]

Scheduled downtime is 5 hours

[gritty oracle]

Oh, alright, thanks!

[oblique trellis]

What is a relic weapon "zenith" - just got the relic weapon itself

[remote lintel]

a stage of the relic

[oblique trellis]

So there's more steps after the 10 I did to make the Relic? 😄

[glad comet]

if you're trying for the zenith relic weapon

[remote lintel]

there's 8

[glad comet]

only do it for glamour

not for the stats, since you level up really quickly

[remote lintel]

you only did 1 step

[oblique trellis]

well I had to run around and get a buncha stuff to maaaaake the relic

[glad comet]

and the next couple of stages may take

[remote lintel]

relic weapons are a grind

[glad comet]

weeks

or months

[remote lintel]

especially the ARR one

[glad comet]

for ARR

Only do it if you want the look of the weapon

[keen fable]

how do i get to the

[glad comet]

otherwise, you're pouring in months of work to get something to glamour.

[keen fable]

||isle of ken||

[glad comet]

@keen fable fly

[keen fable]

thanks

[oblique trellis]

uh...is that what I just got? I have no idea what even started the quest.. lol, just got Yoshimitsu, and I can't do the guy's next quest until I have zenith or something -- so how would I start the next step?

[glad comet]

Saying it right now

do it when you have a level 80 character

[keen fable]

there's no land

i need it for msq

:C

[little swift]

fly across

[glad comet]

that's the island there

[keen fable]

i

[little swift]

you go to that land mass there

[keen fable]

dont have

[oblique trellis]

Ok

[little swift]

swim

[remote lintel]

swim

[keen fable]

I DONT

[glad comet]

then get the aether currents

[keen fable]

r you serious

i have

to swim

that

entire thing

[glad comet]

yes

good luck

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[remote lintel]

go to the dock

[little swift]

if you go underwater you can mount

[keen fable]

channy can u fly me

[remote lintel]

you can fly underwater

[little swift]

nope flying someone else somewhere

[remote lintel]

it's the same speed

[keen fable]

i

:C

[glad comet]

Go underwater

and fly

[keen fable]

alright

[glad comet]

that's what we all did

unless you have all the aether currents of lakeland

in which case, it shouldn't be a problem to get there

[keen fable]

oh you werent kidding when you said i could fly underwater

i

ok then

[glad comet]

@oblique trellis also another thing

[haughty spade]

okay so for future reference potd how do you go about resetting after you do the 51-60? do you reset progress or what?

[glad comet]

one of the stages of the ARR relic weapon

requires you to craft/gather/fish

for certain items

[keen fable]

pops, you just delete the character and do it again

[glad comet]

just reset progress @haughty spade

[keen fable]

like your potd save

[glad comet]

and they're damn expensive on the marketboard

[oblique trellis]

Oh, well... yeah, don't have plans on starting any of that any time soon

[glad comet]

if you're trying to cheat that way :V

[oblique trellis]

My focus now is to figure out how to unlock my level 52 ninja quest 5 levels late 😄

[remote lintel]

are you in hw

[oblique trellis]

me?

[remote lintel]

yes

[oblique trellis]

Not sure what that is so prob not

[remote lintel]

heavensward

the next expansion

[oblique trellis]

oh, yes

[jade ocean]

is duty finder that fastest way to que up for a raid

an alliance raid*

[remote lintel]

@oblique trellis what quest are you on

[west spruce]

yes

[remote lintel]

@jade ocean yes

[jade ocean]

like thee older ones

[oblique trellis]

MSQ is Yugiri's Game

[jade ocean]

ah okay

[remote lintel]

that's not heavensward

[oblique trellis]

wat

[remote lintel]

thats patch 2.2

[keen fable]

how expensive are the relic pieces on the mb?

[remote lintel]

you still have 3 and a half patches to go

to get to heavensward

[oblique trellis]

Then why did the game roll credits after I did Praetorium?

[twilit arch]

there's always 2 sets of credits

[keen fable]

because you were done with arr

[remote lintel]

because that was the end of the base game

[twilit arch]

one at the end of the .0 msq, and the end of the patch msq

[keen fable]

you need to complete the patches after arr and before hw

[remote lintel]

when you get to heavensward the game will flash HEAVENSWARD in big letters

[twilit arch]

you saw the first set of credits, now you have post arr msq to get thru

[remote lintel]

and you have to get there to do your lvl 50 - 60 class quests

[oblique trellis]

But I thought 50-60 was Heavensward... I'm so confused

[keen fable]

it is

usually

[remote lintel]

it is

[keen fable]

you're ahead of the quests level

[remote lintel]

ARR is 1 - 50 and heavensward is 50 - 60

[keen fable]

when HW was current content, people started at 50 because level cap was 50

now, the cap is 80

so you can surpass 50 before you hit hw

[rigid pecan]

You're focusing on your character level. It's quest level that matters.

[keen fable]

^

[oblique trellis]

quests are 50

[remote lintel]

yes

because

the level cap for ARR was 50

it will stay that way until HW

[oblique trellis]

that's why I also assumed I was in HW 😄

cause credits, and 50 quests

[remote lintel]

the post quests are always at the level cap of the expansion

[oblique trellis]

Soooo.... should I work on another job, so I don't just outlevel my job quests too much?

[keen fable]

you'll know you're in the next expansion because the big letters will say EXPANSION

[remote lintel]

thats what i would do yes

[jade quartz]

After the next set of credits

[keen fable]

if you would like

but the post patch quests dont give shit for xp

so

[jade quartz]

That’s when you’ll reach Heavensward.

[oblique trellis]

well poop

[keen fable]

its up to you

[tribal sinew]

You don't really have to worry about overlevelling, your level will be synced to the important story stuff when it matters

[keen fable]

overlevelling won't actually be a thing unless you have the road to 70 buff

[remote lintel]

being overleveled will waste msq exp

[keen fable]

because the difference in xp you get by the time you near 80

[oblique trellis]

I do lol

[keen fable]

will be so minimal in comparison

i see.

erm

you can then?

its up to you

if you overlevel to a point to where you're about to hit 80

thats when i would, if you're trying to be efficient, but outside of that

[remote lintel]

if youre even close to 60 i would change

[oblique trellis]

I'm 56 3/4

[slate crow]

Does blu get more experience than other jobs?

[remote lintel]

then i would change

[oblique trellis]

🤔

[jade quartz]

BLU gets much more experience from killing overworld mobs than other jobs

[keen fable]

here's how to think about it - due to the upteen millions of xp you need to hit 80 - you shouldn't hit anywhere close to 80 from msq, so you're not going to miss out on xp until then

until later on, that is

you have to hit level cap to miss out on xp

[leaden ginkgo]

When I enter Group Pose my chat starts spamming the “use item” animation even though I don’t have any emotes set. Any idea how to fix this?

[slate crow]

Friend took me to Azys Lla yesterday and got me from 28-50 BLU in fifteen minutes. Did same tactic as WHM, but got crap exp

[tribal sinew]

I got my LVL 80 doing 4.0 MSQ, but I did a fair amount of roulette tho

[keen fable]

once you DO hit close to 80

[remote lintel]

if youre way overleveled for msq exp then the msq would barely dent your exp bar

which you could be using on other classes

[keen fable]

then you would lose out on xp

[remote lintel]

that would make more of a dent

[keen fable]

yes cerberus, but you get the same xp either way

[oblique trellis]

Well, now I need to think of another job to do

[keen fable]

it doesnt effect either's xp any more or less than the others

[jade quartz]

Yes that’s a strat for BLU only @slate crow

[keen fable]

it's not a huge deal until you hit close to 80, in the end

especially because you have road to 70

[jade quartz]

BLU levels via overworld mobs, as it can’t queue normally for the duty finder.

[twilit arch]

@leaden ginkgo you can sit before entering gpose to "reset", but gpose will use any actions or emote last used before entering. which includes item/mount use animatiojns

[remote lintel]

if you do a quest as a lvl 70 or whatever and it gives you 1/10th of a bar but on another class would give like 1/4th of a bar then it would be more efficient to do it on the lower level

[leaden ginkgo]

Oh ok gotcha thanks, that’s weird

[remote lintel]

even though theyre the same amount

[keen fable]

thats not quite correct cerberus, because it's efficient either way

it's just an illusion that it is more efficient on the lower class

because the bar progresses quicker than the higher one

[oblique trellis]

I just don't wanna be level 70 or w/e I'll be before I get to HW, doing a level 52 class quest

[keen fable]

when in reality its literally the exact same

[oblique trellis]

is Ishgard also HW?

[remote lintel]

on the higher level class you could have just done a dungeon and it would have given more exp

[keen fable]

you won't hit 70 before hitting HW

[jade quartz]

The lower class has access to it now, and won’t have access to the higher-level quests later when you want to switch over due to overcapping

It is more efficient to use that exp on a lower class

[remote lintel]

@oblique trellis yes

[oblique trellis]

Can't do next Sam quest until I unlock Ishgard

[jade quartz]

But it’s not a big deal

[remote lintel]

ishgard is the main city of HW

yes you can

samurai isnt story locked

[keen fable]

the only difference here is that you could have a lower class following alongside it - but you still have to do the same dungeons you would if you did everything on the first class then switched

[remote lintel]

samurai doesnt require going to ishgard

its in uldah

[oblique trellis]

It does

[remote lintel]

it doesnt

[keen fable]

it does not

[jade quartz]

Can't do next Sam quest until I unlock Ishgard
@oblique trellis is correct

Quests do require you to go there

[keen fable]

thats a class quest, not an unlock

iirc

right?

[remote lintel]

yeah

[jade quartz]

However those quests aren’t necessary to unlock skills

[keen fable]

yeah thats what we're referring to

unless we misunderstood the question

[jade quartz]

With the exception of the level 60(?) and 70 ones

So don’t worry about it

[keen fable]

if you mean strictly the class quests, yeah you need ishgard

[oblique trellis]

Yeah I noticed that with SAM that skills unlock outside the quests, but I'm referring to the quest

[keen fable]

you dont need the quest to get skills like jack said anyways, so its not a big deal

[remote lintel]

can be red mage and start at 50

[oblique trellis]

What're some fun classes aside from NIN and SAM?

[keen fable]

any you find fun

[remote lintel]

thats subjective

[oblique trellis]

I sold most of my sch/arc gear on accident and dunno where to replace it

[keen fable]

there are people that love every class

[remote lintel]

ironworks

[oblique trellis]

and not a Tank....

[keen fable]

you can enjoy any class

whatever you find fun

is fun

asking others is just pure subjectivity and probably not going to help much

[jade quartz]

Anything except monk

[oblique trellis]

Well, gimme opinions then 😄

[keen fable]

yeah basically

honestly i asked that same question when i first started

[remote lintel]

bard because i like to frantically spam buttons

[keen fable]

just look up videos of each class

and see how they play

then deicde

[small lagoon]

I’m new and finding Warrior to be kind of bland so there’s that lol

[jade quartz]

BLM is p cool

[remote lintel]

all classes at low level are bland

[keen fable]

warrior is very slow early on

like everything

warrior is a bit simpler of a rotation on purpose - it's a tank

[oblique trellis]

BLM is... Black Mage? Or Blue?

[keen fable]

black mage

[remote lintel]

black

[jade quartz]

Black

[keen fable]

blue mage doesnt exist

[remote lintel]

BLU is blue mage

[keen fable]

ignore that

[jade quartz]

Blue mage isn’t an actual job

It’s more like a minigame

[keen fable]

its just to be admired

not played

[remote lintel]

more like a meme

[keen fable]

monument was a good one

[oblique trellis]

I see

[jade quartz]

That was a weird autocorrect

[keen fable]

good representation

only to be admired, not used

[vapid veldt]

can't wait until they up blu's level cap and people get to do bluwu and blucob

[keen fable]

if you look up that one youtuber's tutorials on the 1-80 series for each job

30-80, 50-80 respectively

and just skip to the end

to see their rotation

[remote lintel]

healers are fun

[keen fable]

thatll give you a decent idea

[remote lintel]

except scholar

[oblique trellis]

Ironworks for gear at 42?

[keen fable]

no

at 42, just do dungeons

unless you have LITERALLY no gear

[remote lintel]

vendor gear

[keen fable]

then ^

[remote lintel]

and then class quest gear

[oblique trellis]

hmm

Do certain dungeons have more class specific gear or just any dungeon around that level

[remote lintel]

dungeons dont have more of 1 class

its all rng

[keen fable]

just do your highest level dungeon

[mossy tartan]

“With Atlas Awoken in your inventory, deliver the merchant goods to Gerolt in Azys Lla.” What are the goods? The game asks me to talk with other players to know their place(s)

[keen fable]

which quest is this?

[mossy tartan]

It’s the anima relic quest series

[keen fable]

oh

[remote lintel]

its 4 items

[vapid veldt]

https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/wiki/Anima_Weapons/Quest

[remote lintel]

you can see what the items are from the lady you trade them to in mor dhona

[mossy tartan]

Sorry, just talked to the NPC

Yep, found out it’s 4 items

That seems like a lot of poetics....

[keen fable]

ye

its a poetic sink

all relic weapons are

[remote lintel]

the entire questline requires like 10,000+ poetics or something

[vapid veldt]

anima is at least super low effort

just passively collect poetics

[mossy tartan]

what is the fastest way to farm poetics?

[vapid veldt]

hunt trains

[mossy tartan]

I’m free this week so I’m ready to grind heavily

HW hunts?

[remote lintel]

roulettes too

no

you can get them from shb hunts iirc

[mossy tartan]

Ok, thank you

[vapid veldt]

https://discord.gg/dZTgnpv

pick your dc

and whatnot

you'll get pinged for when a train is starting

look in pf for a hunt party/ shout for an inv

[restive talon]

If you use the MSQ skip, do you also get the story-related achievements?

[remote lintel]

you can also buy the other stuff for gc seals

[vapid veldt]

then follow callouts and kill the marks

[remote lintel]

@restive talon yes

[restive talon]

Thanks

[limpid sorrel]

Are the anima relic quests worth doing? Just unlocked the quest for it

[remote lintel]

if you like the glamour

[limpid sorrel]

Is it purely glamour?

[remote lintel]

basically

[limpid sorrel]

Kk thx!

[keen fable]

what's the terminology for e1s-e8s

whats the difference between them all

is it just difficulty

[remote lintel]

1 to 4 is eden gate

5 to 8 is verse

[keen fable]

so they're just floors of the raid?

[remote lintel]

yes

[keen fable]

that drop different loot

ah

[remote lintel]

e = eden

[jade quartz]

They're separate fights

[keen fable]

that makes a bit more sense

[remote lintel]

1 = the floor number

s = savage version

[keen fable]

gotcha

[remote lintel]

so the 6th floor of alexander normal is a6n

[jade quartz]

Note each floor is a single boss arena

not like a whole dungeon layout like WoW raids

[keen fable]

do you que for each floor individually

[jade quartz]

this game got rid of raid trash back in Heavensward.

yeah

[keen fable]

or do you start at 1 and continue onwards

[remote lintel]

not for savage

since you dont queue

[keen fable]

gotcha

[jade quartz]

well you do

but as a premade party

so not queue

but y'know

you enter through duty finder window

[keen fable]

ic

[remote lintel]

you do have to clear each floor to unlock the next floor yes

[patent citrus]

yeah, higher the floor higher requirement/reward

[keen fable]

but once you've reached the highest floor

you can go directly to it?

[remote lintel]

yes but

[patent citrus]

yeah

[jade quartz]

resets weekly

[remote lintel]

if theres a weekly lock you forfeit loot on all previous floors

[keen fable]

ah

okay

[jade quartz]

when it's current content

[keen fable]

does LTW, WEA, and ARM cover all non-jewelry

for crafting purposes

it seems to on my warrior, but im not sure if that remains that way for other jobs

[jade quartz]

uhh almost

GSM makes some, like, headpieces

like glasses

[keen fable]

i see

but for gear purposes such as neoishgardian

those three should cover it?

or do glasses for pieces of crafted catchup come up

[remote lintel]

neo ishgardian still has accessories

[keen fable]

well, i was referring to non-jewelry

[remote lintel]

oh

[keen fable]

i ask because i have weaver and ltw maxed

and arm close to it

[remote lintel]

well

[keen fable]

just wondering if i needed anything else for alt job crafting

[remote lintel]

ideally you level all crafters together

[keen fable]

well

i've literally only used ishgard resto

so i havent needed anything outside of the classes they were in

[jade quartz]

GSM doesn't make any Neo-Ish left side gear, no

[remote lintel]

yeah but they share gear

[keen fable]

that i just bought

xD

i see, thanks jack

i have gear for my crafters from 20-71

every major milestone for ishgard resto

all melded up and everything

i just need gil to buy the resources because gathering is

ye.

wait role quest lines, what are those? I just hit the grenoldt and i cant progress till i complete that

[remote lintel]

the alternative to job quests

they explained it to you

[jade quartz]

They start in the Wandering Stairs in the Crystarium.

MSQ introduced them to you and told you they'd be required to complete the MSQ

[keen fable]

interesting, i vaguely remember it but

i guess i missed the required part

rip

[remote lintel]

you get a special surprise if you do all of them

[keen fable]

o

that requires every class at 80 though

[remote lintel]

no

[keen fable]

or whatever the last level is

[remote lintel]

technically you could just get 2 classes to 80

i mean 3

[keen fable]

oh i c

[remote lintel]

tank, sch/smn, some physical dps

[keen fable]

do i need to do every quest line for a role, or just one quest line

for msq

[remote lintel]

just 1 role

[keen fable]

wait so there's only 3 quest lines in total?

[remote lintel]

tank, healer, magic dps, physical dps

[jade quartz]

SCH/SMN share levels so you get two jobs for the price of one.

[keen fable]

o.O i see

is the reward worth doing

[remote lintel]

its lore stuff

[keen fable]

oh okay

[remote lintel]

but it explains the whole background of the ||warriors of light of the first||

[keen fable]

ooo

[remote lintel]

and ||ardbert||

[keen fable]

i'm

really confused by this quest

[remote lintel]

which one

[keen fable]

i can't find the other villager

[jade quartz]

keep lookin'

[remote lintel]

theyre like around corners and stuff

[keen fable]

ive looked in around outside inside

well not inside because these buildings dont open

[remote lintel]

theres one at the back of a house

iirc

[jade quartz]

search all the way to the edges of the circle

behind walls

[keen fable]

oh

[jade quartz]

etc.

[keen fable]

there was an edge

that i ignored

[jade quartz]

you'll find em

[keen fable]

nevermind.

😄 finally hit 80

pog

[fossil magnet]

how do I start free trial

I got the launcher but it says it needs a code?

[keen fable]

have you already bought the game

[fossil magnet]

honestly I have but I forgot my account

so im gonna try on free trial a bit before re-buying

[remote lintel]

make a new mog station account

[keen fable]

https://freetrial.finalfantasyxiv.com/na/

with a new acct

ye ^

[fossil magnet]

yeah I went on that

got the the end it said servers were down

[keen fable]

try again

[remote lintel]

disable ad blockers and try a different browser

[fossil magnet]

it made my account

[keen fable]

check the account's email

[remote lintel]

are you sure you downloaded the trial launcher and not the regular launcher

[keen fable]

also that

[zinc orbit]

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[fossil magnet]

how do I tell and how do I get trial launcher

yeah i got email confirming the account has been made

[remote lintel]

iirc it shoudl say trial on the title of the window

also

!faq freetrial

[zinc orbit]

Free Trial Limitations

Limitation details
Download

[remote lintel]

click download

[fossil magnet]

what is the process like to transfer

to a 'real' account

[remote lintel]

you buy the game

[little swift]

step one: purchase full version of game

step two: enter game license code onto mogstation account

step three: download rest of game

step four: profit??

[fossil magnet]

okay.

[remote lintel]

buying the base game doesnt require you to download anything

[little swift]

that too^ it just unlocks the social restrictions

and officially puts you on sub

[keen fable]

you become a member of the cool kid club

[wheat plume]

I'm in patch 2.3 and I have 400K gil, should I continue saving? What's the best use for gil?

[keen fable]

you can if you want

as far as uses, you dont really have any right now

[leaden ginkgo]

You can buy some leveling gear.

[keen fable]

unless you want mounts

[leaden ginkgo]

If you don't feel like grinding for poetics to get tome gear at 50/60/70.

[keen fable]

you could do that as well. msq should serve you well if its your first job

[leaden ginkgo]

Sure but not fully.

[wheat plume]

Yes, it's my first job.

[leaden ginkgo]

The msq only gives some gear.

The rest comes from side quests that are easily missed.

[keen fable]

well yeah but i didnt have an issue going through it with the gear msq and dungeons gave me

i was never behind

since they made the drop rate better

[leaden ginkgo]

Yes it should be fine.

In general the msq isn't very demanding anyway.

[keen fable]

ye

^

[leaden ginkgo]

If you encounter an ilvl wall you'll know it, from Heavensward and beyond where dungeons and trials become ilvl-restricted.

[hot crane]

No need to grind poeitc if there are cheap gears on market board.

[wheat plume]

So the best use to gil is to buy tome gear 50/60/70?

[keen fable]

yes, but most leveling gear isnt cheap

gil and tome gear are different

[hot crane]

So check the market board.

[leaden ginkgo]

Not just 50/60/70, there's gear in between too.

If you feel you're taking too much damage or deal too little, check the market to see what's up.

[keen fable]

aw, what we were saying was if they hit the ilvl wall, check it, but dont need to otherwise

also keep in mind the higher level you get, the less damage you're going to do, even with on-level gear

mobs start having a decent amount of health

[wheat plume]

so I should try to keep my lvl low? I haven't started heavensward and my lvl is 56.

[keen fable]

no

just continue on

[leaden ginkgo]

There's this tool if you want to check it out.

https://garlandtools.org/db/#equip/leveling

[keen fable]

sounds like you have the road to 70 buff, so you're fine, you just will overlevel content

[leaden ginkgo]

You select your job and set your level.

And from there it shows you the best gear to get excluding tome stuff.

So only crafted/vendor items.

[wheat plume]

If you feel you're taking too much damage or deal too little, check the market to see what's up.
@leaden ginkgo ok, so save gil until I need to buy more ilvl gear from market then.

[keen fable]

yes

[hot crane]

A small suggestion is that check MB for accessories and filled the empty accessories spots with those traded with poiteics.

[keen fable]

you shouldn't need to - but thats the correct idea

[hot crane]

Since body parts are relatively easier to get.

[keen fable]

MSQ and dungeons ever since the change in 5.31(?) give a lot more items

so you shouldn't need to buy gear

[twilit arch]

honestly, unless there's something you really want you don't need to spend your gil

[keen fable]

^

there's a lot better uses

[hot crane]

Also that

[keen fable]

that you'll have later on

[leaden ginkgo]

If you join a free company and get lucky and bump into veteran crafters with lots of spare materials they might even feel generous and craft you some free gear too.

[keen fable]

400k is a good amount to get into things that will make you gil in return, so if you keep what you dont need to absolutely use, it'll help you later when you realize what you need it for

[hot crane]

And you want to level support class and save gil or poetics for them at the same time.

[little swift]

you don't ever need to save poetics

they aren't a finite resource

[wheat plume]

there's a lot better uses
@keen fable What uses?

[keen fable]

crafting is probably the biggest one to make gil back that i can think of

but im not the best answer to that

thats just what i did and its worked

[wheat plume]

400k is a good amount to get into things that will make you gil in return, so if you keep what you dont need to absolutely use, it'll help you later when you realize what you need it for
@keen fable What can I spend on that makes me have gil in return?

[warped nest]

Seed money to start your crafter/Gatherer

[keen fable]

once you near 800k (which you should have if you're only in 2.3), you can speed level a crafter if you dont want anything else - and you can craft to sell

[warped nest]

Almost everything else depreciate in value

[wheat plume]

once you near 800k (which you should have if you're only in 2.3), you can speed level a crafter if you dont want anything else - and you can craft to sell
@keen fable spending money in market for crafter levequest?

[keen fable]

er

no

the way i did it was ishgardian restoration - which requires gil sink into the gear and the materials

[little swift]

you can always hand gather the materials as well

[keen fable]

once you hit 71 you can use levequests to speed to 80 for virtually free

[little swift]

once you unlock it

[keen fable]

that as well

[warped nest]

There is no one way to level doh/l

[keen fable]

^

[warped nest]

It depends on how many gils you have, do you have the time to grind, are you leveling these while waiting for DPS dungeon queue or are you sitting down for 5 hours and gather/craft things

Do you want to spend time or spend gil

[wheat plume]

When can I get/do ishgardian restoration?

[keen fable]

you can do it after 3.3(?) i think

[warped nest]

Once you reached late Heavensward MSQ

[keen fable]

but it doesnt really see benefit until you hit SHB anyways

because if you're going to use that, you need to max it, and the gear and levequest vendor isn't until later on

in the shb hub

[jade quartz]

Eh? Max it?

[wheat plume]

Ok, let me see if I get it. So right now (lvl 56, ilvl 116, patch 2.3, first job) the best use of gil will be buying from market place for speed lvl up a crafter buying from market for levequest, or continue saving for using ishgardian restoration later on, right?

[jade quartz]

Uh

Honestly

just do Ishgardian Restoration

Leves are fast but they cost a lil bit if you're gonna buy them, and they're limited by your leve allowances

Ishgardian Restoration is slightly less holy-shit-fast but it's still pretty holy-shit-fast

and the materials for it are fairly cheap

not to mention you can easily gather them yourself

[keen fable]

leves i only recommend from 71-80

if you want to save time and money

[jade quartz]

You can use REstoration all the way from 20 to 80 easily

[keen fable]

because its free.

outside of that, save it

[jade quartz]

What's free?

[keen fable]

the turn in quests from the leves on hq items are virtually free for most crafters

because the HQ matts cost less than the quest reward

so you end up making money in some cases

[twilit arch]

that's not always true

[jade quartz]

That may be true sometimes for some crafters

[keen fable]

yes, but it is for a good lot of them

[jade quartz]

but not across the board

[keen fable]

there are some that arent

[twilit arch]

you datacenter market boards =/= other datacenter marketboards

[keen fable]

and in the cases where it isnt free - it's very cheap

ah true

well

on aether thats how it is

[severe tusk]

Are the skysteel tools worth going after?

[wheat plume]

how does ishgardian restoration works? just spend gil to get fastes level up?

[keen fable]

lol kinda

you craft items to turn in

[little swift]

skysteel tools are getting another step upgrade on tuesday

[keen fable]

and it gives xp

[jade quartz]

Skysteel tools I'd say are pretty worth

[little swift]

we have no idea what the statline will be but it will definitely be worth to consider

[jade quartz]

easier and much cheaper than pentamelding aesthete tools

[severe tusk]

Oooooh nice. Im working on the fishing pole now. Only... 49 dragonspines to go.

[jade quartz]

and you can still do just about anything with them

I'd recommend them

especially since they're getting an upgrade tomorrow

[severe tusk]

Also for crafting I did class quests til about 27, ishgard til 63, class quests and collectable til early 70s, then crystalline mean and leves from 70-80 but im still figuring stuff out

[jade quartz]

yeah that's fine

[fast hull]

is there away to remove the battle music and just the landscape music turned on?

[remote lintel]

system config

iirc

[brave ravine]

yes, in configurations

[fast hull]

thank you

[little swift]

don't forget your GC turn-ins as well those are a valuable source of daily EXP

[warped nest]

Especially the Starred Items

Turning in HQ items for Starred GC requests yield 4x exp

[keen fable]

does that reset with the daily reset?

the gc turnins

[twilit arch]

no, gc turn ins are same timer as squadron

[warped nest]

It reset a few hours after iirc

[twilit arch]

which is 5hrs after daily

[keen fable]

ah okay

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[fast hull]

Do you eve use lucid dreeaming in blue?

[keen fable]

does upheavel still take priority over IC

after 80?

or should i just use it during IR

[warped nest]

You should use Upheaval whenever it is ready

!action Upheavel

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**Upheaval** : lvl 64 WAR (20 Beast Gauge) (30.0 second cooldown)(Instant cast time)

Delivers an attack with a potency of 450.
Beast Gauge Cost: 20

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[warped nest]

!action Fell Cleave

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**Fell Cleave** : lvl 54 WAR (50 Beast Gauge) (2.5 second cooldown)(Instant cast time)

Delivers an attack with a potency of 590.
Beast Gauge Cost: 50

※Action changes to Inner Chaos while under the effect of Nascent Chaos.

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[keen fable]

aight

oh right

cause IC doesnt replace unless infuriate

[warped nest]

Plus it is oGCD

[keen fable]

i forgot

i was thinking fell cleave got completely replaced for a moment

its 1:30 am

ree

[warped nest]

Even when you Infuriate

The buff for IC stays there

!action Infuriate

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**Infuriate** : lvl 50 WAR (60.0 second cooldown)(Instant cast time)

Increases Beast Gauge by 50. Additional Effect: Grants Nascent Chaos
Duration: 30s
Maximum Charges: 2
Can only be executed while in combat.

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[warped nest]

Your Inner Chaos is there for 30s

[obsidian patio]

@fast hull as blue mage? Yes

[keen fable]

wait is it

o

[little swift]

it replaces fell cleave

so you don't use it during IR

[keen fable]

wait why not?

[little swift]

because it already dcrits on its own

[warped nest]

Inner Chaos is guranteed crit direct by itself

[keen fable]

oh so it'd just be a waste essentially

[warped nest]

Using it inside Inner Release window is wasting your crit direct Fell Cleave

[little swift]

yes

[keen fable]

so the first infuriate before IR in the opener is purely to get infuriate cd rolling

because otherwise you wouldnt want to infuriate right before ir

[little swift]

https://i.imgur.com/WB2SEtL.png

opener is this

you get it rolling

[hasty musk]

question

[warped nest]

You want to Infuriate, then use inner Chaos before you IR

[little swift]

and it comes up for a second AND third IC in opener

[hasty musk]

what potion is that in the opener

[little swift]

strength

grade 3 tincture of strength

[warped nest]

Now your Infuriate will get the cooldown bonus when you use your 5 FC inside IR window

[hasty musk]

ah, ok

[little swift]

IC itself also triggers that trait

[keen fable]

wait but infuriate only grants 1 IC

right?

[little swift]

yes

[keen fable]

nascent chaos just helps with the CD

[little swift]

its just a bigger fell cleave

[hasty musk]

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