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jade quartz
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Custom Deliveries also give big chunks weekly for little effort.

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You must have a crafter or gatherer at at least level 50.

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If you don't have that, then collectables are a whole system that you haven't yet unlocked.

cosmic token
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aye, I don't

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so get doh/dol to 50 then I'll see?

jade quartz
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Yeah

untold sand
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is skills on hotbars saved per class or per gear set?

cosmic token
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I'm currently leveling my gatherers in diadem - should I do it manually for any reason or just auto-do it cuz its faster?

jade quartz
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per class

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Nah keep autogather on

cosmic token
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besides food and company issued manuals, is there anything else I can use to boost the xp?

empty parrot
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Would anyone know what's the max price of a Small house?

jade quartz
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3.75mil

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plus 450K for construction permit after buying the land

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so save up 4.2mil total

empty parrot
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Thank you!!

peak flax
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i need help about submarine crafting. can i craft rank 35 straight away or do i need to start with rank 1 and work my way up? our fc dont have any submarine yet

obsidian patio
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You need to start with the first set of submarine parts

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Parts have a minimum level/size requirement that your submarine must meet to use them

peak flax
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ahh i see oki ty

untold sand
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best way to level a combat class from 60 to 80?

stable herald
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DPS, healer or tank

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If latter two, dungeons
If dps, HoH

torn agate
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i would like to know that as well, I've just bean running the highest level dungeon i have access to Am tank

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i dont know about necro

stable herald
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Yeah. Just run ya highest level dungeon

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Necro?

rigid narwhal
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70-80 you can do trusts if you're so inclined

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honestly, tho

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if queue times are 10~ minutes then it might be faster to do those while doing fates on the side

stable herald
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Bonus of doing the fate grind

rigid narwhal
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gemstones 😍

leaden ginkgo
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in what order should I level my crafting/gathering jobs?

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gatherers first?

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or in the order I need gear for them?

jade quartz
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it's not a big deal really

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up to you

honest anvil
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What are the antique stuff (helm, breech) for?

open rivet
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gatherers -> crafters is fine,
but you'll need to keep crafters somewhat at the same level since they a) use the same gear and b) have depndencies on each other for craftin. @leaden ginkgo

jade quartz
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Exchangeable for the ilvl 90 job gear which you get a set of for free from your level 50 job quest

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It's just to re-buy that gear if you discard it.

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You're fine to discard the antique stuff.

honest anvil
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is that the only way to rebuy those lv50 job quest gears?

jade quartz
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yes

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specifically the i90 set

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that comes out of the coffer

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not the i45/50 set that just comes from the quests as items

leaden ginkgo
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I want to make a free company with some friends, is there a way I can prepare for that?

jade quartz
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Prepare how?

leaden ginkgo
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perhaps craft stuff that I need beforehand?

jade quartz
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You just

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make the free company

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you don't need to craft anything to have a free company

leaden ginkgo
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not for buffs?

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most of my friends are worried about losing their buffs

jade quartz
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you can craft level 3 buffs eventually but they're pretty easy

leaden ginkgo
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that's why they're hesitant to make one

jade quartz
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the normal buffs are just bought with company credits

leaden ginkgo
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how to get company credits?

jade quartz
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Basically any activity performed by free company members generates company credits for the FC

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just by questing, leveling up, doing GC turnins etc.

hot eagle
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company credits are easy to farm/get fastest way is probably turning dungeon gear in for gc seals

leaden ginkgo
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in the same way GC seals?

jade quartz
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Inviting New Members
Crafting anything High Quality
Gathering anything High Quality
Undertaking supply and provisioning missions with your Grand Company
Completing FATEs
Completing Duties
Completing Quests
Earning Achievements

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Any time a member of the FC does one of these things, company credits are gained.

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You seriously get them just for playing normally

leaden ginkgo
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that's great

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thanks for the information

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leaden ginkgo
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is there a way to increase the limit of the glamour dresser?

obsidian patio
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Nope

limber crypt
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Sadly no, but you can glamour "old way" aka use prism, "cast glamour" right click option and glam gear you have in inventory. I have saddlebag full of gear for that facepalm

leaden ginkgo
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hmm, I see why some friends store their glamour with their retainer

jade quartz
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Y'all need a good spring clean

leaden ginkgo
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I was like: why not just use the dresser, mine got full pretty quickly

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in my opinion, I would be able to get more creative with glamour if the dresser had more slots

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it's hard to think how things look when your collection limits what combinations you can see

pine bluff
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are extreme trials impossible to do in a public group?

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ive been doing them for hours and haven't been able to win

glossy flare
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Some are not actively queued for

pine bluff
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I mean they're just too difficult

glossy flare
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Eh, not at all tbh

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Compared to Savage content they are pretty casual

obsidian patio
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Extreme trials in generally aren’t really balanced around a random group of fresh newbies

glossy flare
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But yeah, some experience + watching a guide is recommended

jade quartz
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And just to confirm

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you're doing it through party finder, not trying to queue up

pine bluff
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no just queueing up 😦

jade quartz
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Nooooo

pine bluff
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haha.. yeah

jade quartz
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yeah we don't do that

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That simply isn't done

pine bluff
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I guess it's impossible for queues

glossy flare
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Though I hear over on some JP worlds they actually do use duty finder

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for that kind of thing

jade quartz
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JP uses duty finder for current content extreme and savage

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not past expansion ones

glossy flare
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ah I see

leaden ginkgo
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How difficult or complicated does tanking become after ARR?

half kraken
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The same

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Tanking only gets some extra work for ex/savage

leaden ginkgo
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As in?

half kraken
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Like tank swaps

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Tank specific mechanics

glossy flare
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At some point you gotta care about Tankbusters, even in normal content

half kraken
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That's still in ARR

glossy flare
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But that's a simple matter of turning on CD when it happens

half kraken
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At 50 you get an invuln ability that's the only major thing

glossy flare
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In normal content you don't have any reason to use it though, unless something goes very wrong

half kraken
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If you do multipulls you may have to use it

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And I do recommend doing multis whenever your healer is half decent

glossy flare
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Eh, even then you can get by with the usual CDs most of the time

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But this may be my DRK speaking, I try to avoid LD with randoms

half kraken
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Yeah drk I never LD

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Gnb I avoid it if possible

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Pld is the only one that can use it whenever

leaden ginkgo
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And just how stressful can things get tanking? In general. Like how many things do you need to worry about outside of certain mechanics by the boss and positioning it?

faint flare
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Tanking is the easiest role

glossy flare
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Not that much in normal content tbh

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You just stand there, smack the boss and turn on the occasional defensive CD

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If it gets stressful, then something went wrong already

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Like a dead healer so now you gotta mitigate every little thing

brave ravine
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just try it and see how it works out for you

leaden ginkgo
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How is tanking easier than playing a dps?

past lantern
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is there any "accurate" website seeing what the realm population is for each?

leaden ginkgo
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@brave ravine I have

faint flare
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Because you have simplier rotations

glossy flare
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Tanks generally have simpler skill mechanics

faint flare
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And usually simplier mechs

glossy flare
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So you have more brain space for caring about stuff happening around you

faint flare
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Like for one mechanic in a savage fight, you literally just leave the boss, pop some cooldowns and sit there baiting some aoes

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Thats ir

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Snoozefest

proud willow
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Veteran players tend to underestimate how difficult the game is for inexperienced players, but tanking normal content really is very easy. practically idiot-proof

faint flare
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While the dps are trying to dodge stuff trying not getting instakilled

leaden ginkgo
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@proud willow I agree wholeheartedly with the sentiment.

brave ravine
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coming from wow where I easily pull half the dungeon and self heal, telling the healer to dps -- here I can't do that

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pulling wall to wall requires popping cooldowns and a healer

faint flare
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I mean you can if your healer has a brain

leaden ginkgo
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So, the only time I'd have to worry about things outside of positioning the boss is in these savages things?

proud willow
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and Extreme

glossy flare
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Well there are some fights where you may have to pay attention to something else, even on normal

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But generally, yes

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Position the boss, then keep smacking it

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CD for tankbusters

jade quartz
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Just to comment on something said earlier

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all tanks can and should use their invulns often.

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Including Living Dead and Superbolide.

faint flare
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I mean you can get away with not positioning the boss but all the melees will hate you...positioning the boss correctly in any content helps with uptime and dps

glossy flare
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Thing is, in my experience the healers doesn't notice LD and just pops all the big heals so it's kind of irrelevant

proud willow
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as you get into Stormblood and Shadowbringers, it's more common for trials and dungeon bosses to have a telegraphed tankbuster that's pretty important to use a CD for, though they shouldn't outright kill you even if you miss it

glossy flare
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Super I do use, it's nice

jade quartz
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Doesn't mean you shouldn't use it

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and Superbolide is great

glossy flare
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Yeah, you're right tbh

faint flare
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Just say "using invuln next pull"

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Done

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Dusted

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Move on

glossy flare
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I should make a macro for that line 😄

faint flare
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People really should

proud willow
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can't say I've ever seen a good argument for using LD on trash pulls

faint flare
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Invulns are way to strong to not use

jade quartz
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??????????????????????????

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There is zero argument for not using it Hiten

glossy flare
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I mean using LD is as great as any other invuln

proud willow
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It's about 7-8 seconds of damage prevented?

glossy flare
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It's just annoying when it's worthless because it never pops

faint flare
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And

jade quartz
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that's a lot

proud willow
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how many healer GCDs is that

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2?

faint flare
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Thats 7-8s where the healer cab dps

glossy flare
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wat

faint flare
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Its the same as hallowed

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Or Holmgang

glossy flare
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8 seconds are not just 2 gcds

faint flare
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Or supee

glossy flare
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plus you use your ogcds first anyway

jade quartz
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it means you don't need to be using other cds

proud willow
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the amount of damage prevented is roundabout 2 Cure IIs, no?

jade quartz
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and neither does the healer

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bruh

faint flare
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Not in large trash pulls

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Thats way more

proud willow
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3 then?

jade quartz
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That's frankly an absurd position

faint flare
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Like 10

jade quartz
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that's a lot

leaden ginkgo
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The reason I asked those questions is because I've always had the mindset of hitting without being hit. I prefer ranged characters that prioritize doing damage while avoiding it at all costs. So tanking is a whole different beast to me. The only jobs I've played thus far are, at least a whole lot, are BRD, DNC and SAM. Also a bit of Ninja

proud willow
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maybe you're misunderstanding what I'm saying

jade quartz
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you understand that LD is free don't you

glossy flare
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As was said multiple times, don't worry, tanking is fun and not nearly as hard as most people make it out to be o/

proud willow
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If the tank had no CDs on for 8 seconds in a big pull, how many Cure IIs would it take to keep them alive through that?

jade quartz
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too many.

glossy flare
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Frankly most people put tanks on a bit of a pedastal

proud willow
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how many though?

jade quartz
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Cure IIs may not keep them alive for that time.

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But it's about three and a bit GCDs

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And three holies is a lot.

proud willow
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and a healer is let's say 20% of the party's damage?

jade quartz
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Your position leads directly do "tanks should not use cooldowns and healers should not dps"

glossy flare
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Any holy that also interrupts some aoe is a good one btw

proud willow
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Nope

glossy flare
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A great one even

jade quartz
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yes

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it does

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LD is free

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and significant

proud willow
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You're not correct on this

jade quartz
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invulnerability is significant.

faint flare
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So should we not used hallowed

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As well

jade quartz
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Explain how please.

proud willow
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Hallowed has no risk to it and requires no communication

faint flare
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If your healer has a brain

jade quartz
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LD has no risk to it

faint flare
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LD doesn't either

proud willow
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how so?

faint flare
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Plus we're talking with white mage

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So benediction go brrr

jade quartz
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I can't remember ever dying from walking dead falloff in a dungeon.

proud willow
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in order for LD do its work, the tank has to stay at 1 HP

jade quartz
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It's not really a significant threat.

proud willow
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I agree that it's not a significant threat

faint flare
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And benediction go brr at 9s

proud willow
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at all

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but the threat is larger than the payoff, which is less than 1 GCD of party damage

jade quartz
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No it's not

leaden ginkgo
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On the subject of healers, are healers in the same boat as tanks in terms of the simplicity of their jobs?

jade quartz
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That threat is not larger than that payoff

faint flare
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Dps wise yes, but you.gotta babysit 3-7 idiots

proud willow
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if intentionally triggering LD and getting the full benefit out of it works 99 times out of 100, and fails 1 time out of 100

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you lost more time than you gained

jade quartz
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no I didn't?

faint flare
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insert tales of dying from Hallowed

jade quartz
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That maths doesn't check out at all

proud willow
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that's assuming that the failure results in a wipe

leaden ginkgo
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@faint flare bad players will be bad players regardless of the job you're playing. I was running potd with some person who never listened to a word I said as I was tanking

jade quartz
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dungeon wipes don't take more than 250 seconds to recover from man

faint flare
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Aint that the half of it neet

proud willow
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I'm saying that the amount of time saved is less than 1 GCD

faint flare
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Imagine using gcds to heal

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Cant be me

leaden ginkgo
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I have enough stress in my life to have to worry about stressing in a game. That's why I choose jobs that aren't stressful

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To play

jade quartz
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Your maths doesn't work out

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LD is free invuln

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the worst thing that's likely to happen is healer won't notice it

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and won't let you drop

brave ravine
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some ppl love tanking because it's so much less stressful (to them), whiel others swear that tanking is more stressful.

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that's why you should do some dungeon runs and determine for yourself

jade quartz
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it's best used as the first thing in a large pull, unless you have a WHM in which case wait for holy stuns to wear off first

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that way it's used to neutralise the most damage from the large number of mobs that haven't yet died.

proud willow
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I know how the ability works

jade quartz
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You're saying there is "no good argument to use it" which is false

leaden ginkgo
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@brave ravine I've been spamming dungeons in arr to level a warrior. I've only got it to level 28 thus far

jade quartz
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it's free gain

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and the risk doesn't meaningfully exist

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the 1/100 scenario you suggested still works out well in favour of using it

steady idol
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I love tanking, i don't see why its hard tbh, you take agro and put the boss in the right place, but then i guess I've been tanking in MMOs since TBC

proud willow
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Use it then, I'm not stopping you. It's still not worth it in pugs

brave ravine
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@leaden ginkgo that'll be roughly 20% of your tanking career if you go that route.

jade quartz
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There is no cost

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therefore it is worth it.

proud willow
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The cost is that you wipe and have to respawn and redo the pull

jade quartz
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That is not a cost that really exists

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as it like

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doesn't happen

proud willow
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If your only argument is "nobody has ever died from LD", then just let it go

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that's not an argument

jade quartz
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It is extremely uncommon to die from it

leaden ginkgo
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Does healing come down to knowing how much your heals do and knowing when big damage is coming?

jade quartz
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to the point that it's not a meaningful consideration.

proud willow
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It is extremely uncommon to die from it, asterisk *

jade quartz
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You are not in any real risk of dying from it.

faint flare
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More or less neet

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Tanking and healing is scripted out the ass

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Only things that change said scripts are idiots taking dumb damage

leaden ginkgo
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Cause honestly healing sounds more appealing to me than tanking.

proud willow
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Part of healing is keeping an eye on your resources so that you know what's available to use. The basics are really simple but it's more improvisational than tanking or DPS

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leaden ginkgo
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I've been watching videos on YouTube, mostly by this Wes guy, and I heard that healing is mostly done though OGCDs rather than gcds. Is that true?

faint flare
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Yes

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Because ogcds are free

proud willow
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Yeah

faint flare
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And short cooldown for the most part

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And they save mana and allow for dps

proud willow
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I mean, past a certain level that's true

faint flare
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And dpsing is a form od healing as dead shit does no damage

proud willow
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you don't really have any oGCDs at the really low levels but you'll also almost never need to cast a heal

leaden ginkgo
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Gotcha. I think I might go White mage. Mostly due to my mindset of dealing damage from a distance

clever river
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I think it has been said earlier, but if you use LD.. most of the time the healers won't let you drop below 1 hp because they don't notice you used it.

If the healer did notice, then he will most likely know how to deal with it. The risk of dying by using it is very insignificant.

proud willow
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AST is the only one that can aoe from a distance though, WHM's and SCH's are point blank aoe

leaden ginkgo
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@proud willow yeah, but I can't play AST for personal reasons

glossy flare
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WHM aoe stuns mobs though

proud willow
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I see. Well, I wouldn't peg either WHM or SCH as being more distance-y than the other

glossy flare
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which is just great

leaden ginkgo
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@proud willow Do they have to be in melee range to AOE like dancers?

proud willow
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yeah, both of them do

leaden ginkgo
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That's weird

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But at least you have heals

gritty oracle
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How can I check what house is what grade? (allegedly houses have multiple grades and some cost more)

gritty oracle
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does it say the grade on the placard? I'd snoop around filled districts looking for a nice spot.

fresh lodge
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No

raven sage
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The album has all the locations on it

fresh lodge
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Just find one you like, then refer to the map in the album

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craggy drift
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what's a cheap way to get fieldcraft demi III other than bridesmaids shoes and marketboard?

faint flare
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Buy artisan gear from grand company and desynth

craggy drift
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gotcha

plain python
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can your level be higher than 60 in PoTD? Or its cap is 60?

glossy flare
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cap is 60

teal tiger
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with how big of a lvl difference is it still worth doing a fate to lvl? like if I'm 15 and the fate is 12 or smth like that

paper nest
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Is 14 any good

glossy flare
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The game?

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I mean... we are here because we like it

paper nest
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I'm just deciding whether to take the plunge and get it or not lol

open rivet
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that's what the free trial is there for

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test it to your heart's content

glossy flare
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Yeah the whole game is free up to lvl 60

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just try it

open rivet
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it's not free, it's a trial

glossy flare
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I mean... yes

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There are social restrictions

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but since there is no time limit 🤷

wraith jay
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does any1 know if it's possible to invite another person while in an active dungeon. Our healer bailed on us

agile laurel
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Yes

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The 'leader' whoever that ended up being

faint flare
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You cant pick specific people

agile laurel
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needs to press U for the prompt

faint flare
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But the leader can put up for recruiting

agile laurel
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oh yeah. you can't manually invite people, you can only reopen matchmaking

wraith jay
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/p alright thanks

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bruh

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I rly did /p in discord

silent minnow
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Do I srsly not get my cool badass lvl 80 job armor until I finish the SHB story

twilit arch
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more or less, yeah

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gotta do the msq "The Light of Inspiration" and have completed the appropriate role quest

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to be able to get lvl 80 job quest from grenodlt

silent minnow
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😑

calm phoenix
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When does the next patch come out?

twilit arch
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the 13th

faint flare
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5.35 with bojza is on the 13th

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5.4 with new story, gear, tomes and raid tier is December

agile laurel
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Are mnk chakras given at the execution of demolish or the register of demolish? (considering the delayed animation)

faint flare
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They generate on hit

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agile laurel
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alright

calm phoenix
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Why would people opt to pay for a more expensive listing price for an item (not HQ)? My wife was able to raise a few prices because the more expensive ones (not HQ) from others sold

agile laurel
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various reasons

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potentially because they're stupid

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we can't really know on a case by case basis

paper nest
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I'll probably get it last time I played never had anyone to play with lol

rigid narwhal
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they might be buying multiple of the same item

eager widget
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some retainers and crafters have a bad rep so some people might avoid buying from them if they know them

brave ravine
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where are patches 5.32, 5.33 and 5.34?

faint flare
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No where

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They dont have to go in singular digits

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X.X5 is typically the half way point patch between the two major patches

brave ravine
fast hull
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Umm many of my friend purchased it but only to drop it after. The main question is do you have a job/school and can manage your time

calm phoenix
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Do jump potions also complete job quests up to that point?

faint flare
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For job boosts yes

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Including unlock quest

elder linden
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Hey guys, I've just starting playing a few days ago and I wanted to know. Is dungeon spam the fastest way to level? I'm at lv 47 and need to be 49 to continue the main quest.

heavy orchid
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Hello there, we are searching for a raid group for the ancient labyrinth. We need it tom complete the story. Would some mind to help us out here so we can progress in the story? Group search is up and i'm on Server light on Odin. My name is Zouxun Buvi.

faint flare
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Daily roulettes then highest level dungeon spam

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Just que for it jopo

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Roulettes just reset so it should be popping

elder linden
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Got it. is there any exp gear I can get for higher levels?

faint flare
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No

open ember
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Get job gear or iron works at 50

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Its not that worth to change your gear at 47

faint flare
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They said exp gear

open ember
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Oh then that idk

faint flare
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There's no xp gear past lv30

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Outside of unobtainable preorder earrings

open ember
#

Yeah then no

elder linden
#

Good to know. Thanks for info!

wispy parcel
#

Anyone know if we are having a Halloween event this year?

tulip plover
#

What squadron mission rewards are most worth it

faint flare
#

Hallowen is bundled with Make it rain

elder linden
#

are there other dungeons I can unlock besides the main quest ones? Currently I have the stone vigil as my highest.

faint flare
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Yes

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Dzamel in Coerthas and Aurum vale in Vesper bay

fast hull
#

I think the final dungeon in HW is the Aetheryum Research Facility in Azys Lla in HW

wispy parcel
#

they are all unlocked from blue quests

gritty oracle
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Is Master Culinarian 7 worth buying?

wispy parcel
#

thats the final 3.0 dungeon anyway

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and its Aethrochemical Research Facility

twilit arch
#

@wispy parcel technically no, we're getting make it rain instead but they're mashing all saints into make it rain. how exactly we don't know

past lantern
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Are vendor bought NPC's good (example the merchants taht sell those at apartments) or are something like Namazu servants/NPC's somehow more superior?

gritty oracle
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They're basically convenience that you can repair gear, buy dyes and housing items in your home

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instead of hunting for various merchants

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could also be used as "NPCs" in your home, say receptionists, maids etc

leaden ginkgo
#

Is it better to go through the actual story before looking ot make alts?

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alt jobs

eager widget
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ye because you get a permanent exp boost for any combat job under your max leveled combat job

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so most people push the MSQ as one job, then level subjobs to use the bonus

glossy flare
#

If you happen to be on a preferred server you can actually level 2 jobs via the MSQ though, at least up to 70

plain python
#

are General purpose dye store-only? Or they can be crafted?

agile laurel
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They're store or retainer ventures

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They can't be crafted

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Well, that or golden choco feathers from RAF

eager widget
#

most of them are VERY expensive cuz of that, like the white and black ones

leaden ginkgo
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And how far into the game would you need to go before thinking about it? I don't want toy have to get to SHb just to do that. lol

eager widget
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you can use the bonus at any point, while I did MSQ I would use my daily roulettes to level jobs that were far behind my main job

untold sand
#

i asume scouting accessories is for ranged physical classes?

strange coral
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Scouting gear is for ninja. They use aiming accessories, which is shared with ranged physical.

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There are no scouting accessories afaik

pliant eagle
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Hiya new player here, was wondering if theres any point in creating alts? can they skip the story or no?

wispy parcel
#

theres really no point in making an alt character at all in this game

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most people who do make them for RP purposes and yea you can buy the alt jump potions

pliant eagle
#

Ah i see, tyvm!

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paper nest
#

What's everyone's favorite class

lone nacelle
#

is there something like this

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but it shows what quests arent blue+

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like, sidestories that unlock stuff

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but it isnt shown with the blue+ marker

dry jolt
#

Is there a good/best starting class to become a Dancer later?

lone nacelle
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i dont memorise what i have or havent unlocked

calm phoenix
#

Why does the level 30 job quest take you to areas above your level? It did that for me with summoner and is doing that with my wife for the dragoon quest

lone nacelle
#

@dry jolt archer/bard maybe?

faint flare
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Because thats just where they are

lone nacelle
#

its phys ranged, shares gear, and also is kinda reliant on rng procs as is dancer

dry jolt
#

NOOOOOOOOOOO.....My first character is a bard...looking for something different 😛

digital wyvern
#

Is there a DPS class that's right in the middle of easy to hard to play?

dry jolt
#

I thought bard would be more "music" based. Nope, just an archer who dresses like Liberaci

digital wyvern
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Not super easy but not complicated either?

leaden ginkgo
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machinist isn't too bad but im biased

wispy parcel
#

Dancer plays very differently from other DPS jobs as its mostly support

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so there is no real optimal transitioning job

leaden ginkgo
#

plus you start at level 30

dry jolt
#

hmmm spelled Liberace wrong...

digital wyvern
#

I'll try MCH and DNC out, thanks!

lone nacelle
#

I wouldnt put dnc as a suggestion for what you're looking for

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dnc is... very easy

static yacht
#

Eh do note that

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In this game

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Support doesnt really exist

dry jolt
#

What does it mean "your partner" in Dancer skills?

static yacht
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All dpses are expected to use their buffs on cooldown

faint flare
#

The person you pick with closed position

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Is your dance partner

wispy parcel
#

Dancer Partner is one of DNC's main mechanics

glossy flare
#

Dancer can designate a dance partner via closed position who will benefit from certain effects

dry jolt
#

who would that be in most groups?

glossy flare
#

another dps

faint flare
#

Dps

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Always

dry jolt
#

OK

faint flare
#

Never a tank or dps

fast hull
#

?

glossy flare
#

If you know the group then you usually pick the guy who does the most damage

civic cove
#

so I've just joined discord and set myself up. I'm pretty much new to FF14 I'm playing on the free trail version. Anything I need to know?

faint flare
#

If everyone is equal skill/gear, theb you usually partner the BLM/SAM/SMN

wispy parcel
#

Do your job quests as soon as they are availble

faint flare
#

Otherwise whoever is geared more usual

wispy parcel
#

You see them right under the main story tracker

fast hull
#

unlocl you challenge log at level 17 like a chunk of XP is there

dry jolt
#

If you're on a preferred server you can generally ignore side quests

wispy parcel
#

Thats on all servers

glossy flare
#

You can ignore sidequests regardless of preferred status

wispy parcel
#

ignore yellow side quests

glossy flare
#

Just always do the bluequest

faint flare
#

!faq newplayertips

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civic cove
#

oh heck

plain python
#

I want to rez someone but he is out of range in a large-size arena (the Step of Faith, to be specific), and kinda confuse about which direction he is.

#

anyway to know where he is?

faint flare
#

Probably closer to the start

civic cove
#

thanks for the feedback

fast hull
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open you map (type m)

wispy parcel
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if anyone in your party is far away you can see it on your map

hot eagle
#

also in step of faith u dont rly need to rez they can release and rejoin the fight without a debuff

plain python
#

ironwork for 50, shire for 60, what are the names of gear in 70 and 80?

hot eagle
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Scaevan for 70

wispy parcel
#

Scavan for 70, currently Crystarium for 80

hot eagle
#

80 dosent have poetics gear till next expansion

wispy parcel
#

80 ye gotta grind the current endgame currrency

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which is Allegory

hot eagle
#

with 5.4 we will probably also get new tomestones if its like before

wispy parcel
#

should also be stated that there is always a weekly limit on current endgame tomestones

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so you wont be able to get it all in one go

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It'll take up to 2 months to get all of it

plain python
#

so for alt, scavan is the way for now?

wispy parcel
#

Scaevan is good until level 75

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then dungeons start dropping better gear

fast hull
#

is trust mission always long

wispy parcel
#

yes

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they dont AoE and can only handle single pulls

fast hull
#

been here 45 minutes ;-;

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how can i level them up so it wont take so long

wispy parcel
#

theres no real quick way to do it

leaden ginkgo
#

You could do others things in between pulls but that's it

twilit arch
#

trusts are always going take around 30minutes

leaden ginkgo
#

But it won't get any faster

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besides your participation

wispy parcel
#

Its why I dont bother with trusts at all

quiet elm
#

what is this

faint flare
#

Characters birthday

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Its all fluff

twilit arch
#

rp fluff, its just a calendar for your character's b irthday

faint flare
#

You can guess which month is which

quiet elm
#

are there connection to real month

twilit arch
#

first astral moon = january, first umbral = feb etc

wispy parcel
#

None of this stuff really effects anything

#

its hold overs from 1.0 so pick whatever

calm phoenix
#

When do I get access to treasure maps? I heard that they sell high on the market

faint flare
#

You need a gatherer levelled to get them

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They start around lv40 ish then they randomly appear in nodes

calm phoenix
#

I mean you can get them from Wonderous tales too (but my brother-in-law does but I do not have the option) and I was wondering why Wonderous tales does not give me the option

faint flare
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Because its random

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The rewards change every week

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It wont always be a option

calm phoenix
#

He has three options per line and I only have two?

twilit arch
#

actually, rewards seem to be static now

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and you only have two if you're under 80

#

since 3rd rewards are usually phanta/allegory

calm phoenix
#

Then why did he have the option this week and I did not?

#

Oh I see

#

How does "less then 5m" turn into "25m" wait time?

twilit arch
#

bro

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you've been told numerious times about the estimated wait time

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stop paying attention to it, the queue will pop when it pops.

gusty storm
#

are there any like non combo based classes

#

my brain is not strong enough to remember rotations

faint flare
#

Ranged dps

calm phoenix
#

Summoner

faint flare
#

Casters

#

Healers

#

Everyone has a rotation at the end of the day

glossy flare
#

(they still have rotations though)

faint flare
#

Either static or priority based

gusty storm
#

what is the difference

glossy flare
#

Caster rotations are usually more determined by how they have to spend their MP

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Like BLM who has a fire phase where they spend MP like crazy and an Ice phase where they regenerate it

twilit arch
#

Static rotation means you're always basically going to do the same thing in the same order

glossy flare
#

Ranged physical dps has more proc based things

warped nest
#

Machinist has absolutely no proc

twilit arch
#

priority based rotation is basically Is X up? Yes, if so use it

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if not, use Y

warped nest
#

Dancer is on the top end on priority based rotation

twilit arch
#

like dragoon and monk have a very static rotation

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there's very little to no change in how you do your rotation

#

dancer, and bard are more priority based as you have a lot of procs

quiet elm
#

is there any way to hide the cursor

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i don't like seeing it

elfin edge
#

When do I get access to treasure maps? I heard that they sell high on the market
@calm phoenix for the ones you gather yourself, you can only get one map every 18 hours or so I think

gusty storm
#

doom priority sounds cool but the classes themselves i dont like

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i will try and get used to static

quiet elm
#

anyone?

rotund sable
#

You asked 2mins ago, chill

twilit arch
#

afaik there's no way to hide the cursor

rotund sable
#

Just shove it in the corner

twilit arch
#

outside of that, yeah putting it down into a corner where you can't see it

fast hull
#

scroll lock?

twilit arch
#

that hides the HUD in general

minor isle
#

hi i'm trying to do one of the early msqs and i'm confused on a particular quest. i am told to get gear of lv5 and above..but i have gear that says 'item level 5' but yet its lv1?

#

these levels aren't related i assume?

fast hull
#

ilvl is you total gear level

#

like even you have a level 20 weapon but a level 1 ring then your ilvl will be lower

elfin edge
#

the "level" of gear is what level your class has to be to be able to use it

#

the "item level" of gear is a rough estimate of how "good" that gear is

minor isle
#

ah

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alright i'll go buy some lv5 gear then

#

ty

rotund sable
#

I'm not sure that's something we ask around here

#

But in short: no

unkempt sapphire
#

Ok

fresh lodge
#

Please refrain from begging in this server

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calm phoenix
#

Why can't people wait for those in cutscene? Because I had to "jump immediately to sealed area" it put me right at where a piller was about to fall and I died immediately

granite swan
#

How do you get White Scrip for Crafting/Gathering? Just same way as yellow but its white now?

twilit arch
#

lvl 80 collectables

glossy flare
#

Why can't people wait for those in cutscene? Because I had to "jump immediately to sealed area" it put me right at where a piller was about to fall and I died immediately
@calm phoenix What kind of answer do you expect?

granite swan
#

Ah ok

glossy flare
#

There is literally nothing anyone here can do to help with the behaviour of others 🤷

granite swan
#

There was a Wait option :p

rotund sable
#

The general answer is people just wanna zoom through their 200th run

fresh lodge
#

Yeah basically

#

Its common practice to just skip the cutscene and watch it later

lone nacelle
#

I find most people wait for those watching cutscenes

elfin edge
#

I'm glad in Shadowbringers there's the option to play it with Trust so that I can leisurely go through a dungeon for the first time

wispy parcel
#

I personally wait for people to watch the cutscene

#

but its ultimatly down to the person

#

needless to say in an alliance raid there is a higher chance someone will pull early

fresh lodge
#

Anyways

#

Please keep this channel for only actual questions and not gripeing

fast hull
#

whats the mechs for cloud of darkness

faint flare
#

Dont be infront of her, be to the sides

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Run if you get a marker

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Stand in towers

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Kill clouds

fast hull
#

thanks

granite swan
#

Dont drag the marker through clumps of people :p

fast hull
#

me >>>> other people

#

well thats what I learn in PVP anyway

elfin edge
#

yeah usually I watch for the marker and run away from the guy who has it lol

#

same deal with atomos in labyrinth

#

wait, not labyrinth

#

I forget which CT it was, with the sucking in thing

fast hull
#

grouped in alliance of 2 whm that dps and dont heal. Potions and Second wind only

faint flare
#

WoD

whole wasp
#

into the belly of the beast

fast hull
#

when both died no one tried to raise them XD

elfin edge
#

lol

calm phoenix
#

Do I get the Dragonsong title after the "an end to the song" quest?

eager widget
#

You get it from Litany of Peace

#

so thats about two or so quests away

calm phoenix
#

Why is it "more than 30m" for "The final steps of faith"? Is this another one that people hate doing?

faint flare
#

Because no reason to run it more than once

eager widget
#

it’s part of trial roulette so it’ll pop eventually

fresh lodge
#

Trials can have long queue times outside of peak time

calm phoenix
#

But Saturdays are usually peak all day because it is the weekend

faint flare
#

People still work

fresh lodge
#

People also do stuff during the day

crimson wind
#

Some people have work on weekends

glossy flare
#

the bottom line is that no one can do anything about queue times

#

It is what it is

fast hull
#

have a healer friend to form a party, insta que

plain python
#

play a healer to queue for MSQ dungeons :3

#

scholar/summoner works well

wispy parcel
#

Its usually the oppisite for final steps of faith, its a long wait cause there are often too many DPS queueing for it at once

calm phoenix
#

Nidhogg just one shotted me with no AoE? What did I miss? Nidhogg roughly 30%

gaunt brook
fresh lodge
#

What role are you?

calm phoenix
#

summoner

#

We are about to wipe as well

faint flare
#

30%

#

So that would be fire orbs

#

I would bet

fresh lodge
#

What did the attack look like?

calm phoenix
#

Paladin beat him last man standing

faint flare
#

I would bet fire orbs or other hitd of Akh morn if he ran after the first hit

wispy parcel
#

yea people tend to forget Ahk Morn is multi-hit

#

you have to stay stacked

twilit arch
#

Serpent Elite's Longsword @gaunt brook

quiet elm
#

is it faster to kill things to get xp with a help of higher level friend

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or do quest?

faint flare
#

Story

gaunt brook
#

ty

wispy parcel
#

overworld mob xp is so minor its never worth grinding that way

faint flare
#

Unless you're blue mage

#

But they can't do quests outside job quests

wheat plume
#

All guildhest are training?

faint flare
#

Yes

#

Guildhests are basically tutorials

wheat plume
#

so no deal in not doing anyone, right?

faint flare
#

Only if you're new

wispy parcel
#

there arent many of them they stop at level 40

wheat plume
#

thanks

granite swan
#

Worth doing if your after Squad Members :p

wheat plume
#

Worth doing if your after Squad Members :p
@granite swan so for meeting new people for forming party?

granite swan
#

no grand company squads

faint flare
#

For squadrons

obtuse eagle
#

So if i have ffxiv on both pc and ps4 using the same account, will trophies on ps4 auto pop when i log in if i earn them on pc?

leaden ginkgo
#

okay so, i just recently started up ffxiv and was wondering is there a faster way of leveling up to get to current content? currently level 10 but it just seems to drag on

wispy parcel
#

@obtuse eagle No they wont

faint flare
#

You'll have to do something for that trophy to register them

#

Then they pop

leaden ginkgo
#

or do i just keep questing till i get up there to the dungeon levels

wispy parcel
#

it only counts how your progress if you play on PS4

agile laurel
#

@leaden ginkgo EVERYTHING is gated by MSQ. you cannot powerlevel your first job to endgame

faint flare
#

Not true sora

#

I got my trophies after swapping to ps4 after 4 years

leaden ginkgo
#

hmm. thank you thats kinda awesome

faint flare
#

You just have to do 1 thing regarding that trophy

elfin edge
#

Yeah just do your main scenario (story?) quests; they updated it so that it gives you enough exp to level you through

faint flare
#

To register the progress

raven star
#

do any npcs sell level 50 right side that isnt tome gear?

faint flare
#

If you already met it

wispy parcel
#

@leaden ginkgo this game is heavily story based, it will be a WHILE before you catch up to current content

formal sierra
#

Is there a "shorter" gun for the MCH. Something like the gun from Yuna in FF10-2.

faint flare
#

There's a small one from pvp

#

Iirc

agile laurel
#

Revolver of the wanderer is just a large small gun

#

The best bet was makai hand cannon but that's gone forever

leaden ginkgo
#

Thanks Mateus, this is actually the first time ive played the Online series, im coming from a different base of games like WoW and Tera.

faint flare
#

Tera pensive_cowboy

agile laurel
#

(Mateus is a server world. Their name is Sora)

leaden ginkgo
#

shhh it was free and easy to grasp :p

formal sierra
#

Okay, thanks ^^

wispy parcel
#

Best way to describe FFXIV:
Its a Final Fantasy game first and an MMO second

faint flare
#

And had non existant optimization pepega

elfin edge
#

Yeah, I would try to go through the story, but if you really really hate it you can skip cutscenes

leaden ginkgo
#

That is true vinyl. lol

faint flare
#

Wasted 3 years there

leaden ginkgo
#

i like the whole lore base though, fairly interesting

#

i honestly wasnt expecting a whole lot out of it when i started it up. oh hey another free trial game. my first thoughts... well like everyone elses, hope this one will be different and well it was

agile laurel
#

It starts slow

wispy parcel
#

very slow

agile laurel
#

I know my expectations were not exceeded particularly quickly

raven star
#

Anyone know where i can get level 50 right side that isnt crafted or from tomes?

leaden ginkgo
#

so i could tell lol. Once i got to level 4 i found out you cant as easily take on a level 12 treant without spam healing yourself

fast hull
#

market board?

#

or do level 50 dungeons

faint flare
#

Levels and gear primarily matter alot

raven star
#

He hasnt got level 50 dungeons, he cant get past the first story one xD

#

He doesnt meet ilevel and i cant trade him cause he's on a free trial

fast hull
#

aurum vale armor

faint flare
#

Use the i90 job gear

#

You'll get enough ilvl

raven star
#

yeah he's doing the level 50 smn quest now

faint flare
#

The job gear is more than enough

raven star
#

Thanks!

leaden ginkgo
#

Max level is 60 or what?

raven star
#

for free trial 60 is max

faint flare
#

For trial

#

Real max is 80

leaden ginkgo
raven star
#

But people take a month to complete the free trial, it's not quick. U have ALL the story patches from 2.0 to 3.5 to get through

wispy parcel
#

Level 60 was the cap back in Heavensward

#

cap goes up by 10 every xpac

leaden ginkgo
#

interesting so they give dang near the whole expansion till 60.

wispy parcel
#

Indeed

agile laurel
#

literally the whole expansion yes

eager widget
#

you’ve got all the way to the very end of Heavensward, a Bahamut Raid, a Alexander Raid, and all the 8man fights (trials)

faint flare
#

It was surprisinf for alot of people

agile laurel
#

all of basegame and all of expansion 1

faint flare
#

Most thought they would raise it to just 50

raven star
#

It's because people kept quitting during 2.x cause it took so long

wispy parcel
#

its mainly cause the original Free Trial ended at level 35

faint flare
#

But they just gave hald the game away in trial

wispy parcel
#

Which is the worst part of the game

raven star
#

2.x is a lot shorter now

leaden ginkgo
#

hmm and when do i unlock dungeons? id like to give those a shot

agile laurel
#

19 in msq

faint flare
#

Lv16 ish story

raven star
#

@leaden ginkgo what server are you on?

faint flare
#

Story locks EVERYTHING

agile laurel
#

!quest

eager widget
agile laurel
#

is that not a thing

#

damn

eager widget
#

green is the new amt of quests

leaden ginkgo
#

one sec and ill check

raven star
#

Ok ^^

agile laurel
#

be wary that the first few dungeons fall into the 'It's Literally Deadmines' category

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agile laurel
#

so could not reasonably be called 'difficult'

wispy parcel
#

yea the early dungeons arent a great example of how dungeons work later on

raven star
#

@leaden ginkgo ur on crystal nvm xD

wispy parcel
#

early ones are a lot more open and feel like big mazes, Heavensward onward they are much more linear and are better for it

fast hull
#

how do you know which server are others in

agile laurel
#

well that's subjective but they certainly are better and more linear

faint flare
#

By role

leaden ginkgo
#

oh wait, i clicked the wrong one. im on primal

fast hull
#

can you tell which I am on?

agile laurel
#

yes, because you clicked primal

fast hull
#

So how is the other one crystal

leaden ginkgo
#

there we go, i just adjusted it.

faint flare
#

Slightly more RP and casual focus

agile laurel
#

there are multiple US datacenters

raven star
#

@leaden ginkgo oh so ur on primal? 😮

leaden ginkgo
#

yeah

raven star
#

I'm free right now if u need help in the game, ^.^ friend is logging off

fast hull
#

Oh so you base on the color on the names then

leaden ginkgo
#

on primal i have one on lamia and the other on famfrit

wispy parcel
#

Yea like Im on crystal

leaden ginkgo
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Maybe abit later on @raven star ? Im about to be game hopping shortly to help folks in wow get their Aotc mounts before prepatch hits

wispy parcel
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which is light blue

raven star
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Sure ^.^ if I'm up

leaden ginkgo
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awesome

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so what would you guys say is the most difficult raid boss fight

agile laurel
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tea

leaden ginkgo
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Tea?

agile laurel
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epic of alexander

leaden ginkgo
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OH

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What makes him the most difficult?

faint flare
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Along with the other 2 ultimate difficulties

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Because basically

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Take a wow raid

agile laurel
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short answer with ultimates is cause they're uh

faint flare
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And you all the bosses all at once

agile laurel
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blindingly fucking difficult for nothing but the sake of it

faint flare
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No breaks

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Ni checkpoints

agile laurel
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20min pulls

faint flare
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Overlapping mechanics

agile laurel
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well more like 15 but

faint flare
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No mistakes

leaden ginkgo
faint flare
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No breaks

agile laurel
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they're not for progression they're solely for clout

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so

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they're difficult for the sake of it

leaden ginkgo
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that ones the 18 min raid right?

faint flare
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Yes

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One of the 3

wispy parcel
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Ultimates are so absurd only about 5% of the playerbase even ATTEMPTS them

faint flare
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Ultimate bahamut, ultimate Ultima and Ultimate Alexander

leaden ginkgo
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jeez, i dont even know one WoW raid thats lasted more then 6 mins lol

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Excluding classic raids

faint flare
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They take over 100s of hours to learn and clesr

agile laurel
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and ultimates tend to be more than 1 death, if even that, = wipe to enrage or wipe to mechanics

faint flare
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More if you're pepega as hell like my group

agile laurel
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that is assuming everyone is BiS geared

oak ice
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Less than 1% of the playerbase does savage, and not very many of them do ultimates

agile laurel
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because you kinda need to be

wispy parcel
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its more than that

leaden ginkgo
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So basically its an abnormally overpowered and over tuned fight on purpose?

agile laurel
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thankfully getting bis in this game is actually a thing because titanforging Pepega

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yes

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basically

leaden ginkgo
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yikes.

agile laurel
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it's designed to kick your shit in

wispy parcel
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about 13-15% of the playerbase does Savage, less than 5% does ultimate

fast hull
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which is more complicated, RDM or SAM ( my DNC is almost level 80 so I need another job)

agile laurel
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music's good tho

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sam

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definitely sam

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rdm is one of the most conceptually easy jobs

leaden ginkgo
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i see

fast hull
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is SAM harder than DRG

faint flare
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Ultimates are basically designed for the best of the best, they're not for faint heart and the designs go ALLLLL out, no holds barred

wispy parcel
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RDM is braindead imo, but people like it

fast hull
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I got the combo down for DRG

granite swan
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RDM is fun ... until you constantly get relegated to RezBot :p

wispy parcel
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SAM is still pretty easy but it does have more going on than the other melee jobs

leaden ginkgo
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alexander looks so confusing to watch on YT

faint flare
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Exactly the point

leaden ginkgo
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im used to healing in most games

fast hull
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why not SMN I mean they got rez at lvl 18

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RDM level 64 i think?

faint flare
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Because rdm can chain res

leaden ginkgo
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so is there combat rez abilities or just rez when ever you can?

faint flare
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With dualcast

eager widget
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RDM naturally instacasts every other spell

faint flare
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There's combat reses on healerd and casters except Black mage

eager widget
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so imagine an instacast raise, then a swiftcast raise

leaden ginkgo
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cool

faint flare
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Dying gives you weakness

fast hull
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K havent unlock RDM yet

faint flare
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Reducing damage by 15%, 30% for 2 stacks

eager widget
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weakness used to be an ALL STATS DOWN including HP, now it’s just a damage down

faint flare
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For 2mins

leaden ginkgo
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hm well thats certainly interesting

wispy parcel
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thank christ for that

leaden ginkgo
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so dying and reviving will result in lower meters. yikes

faint flare
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Old weakness pensivewobble

eager widget
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yep Jay

agile laurel
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It's like a diet rez sickness

leaden ginkgo
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haha

agile laurel
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it balances being able to raise in combat so easily

eager widget
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and some jobs you’ll lose your meters or energy

agile laurel
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which is frankly still busted in concept

faint flare
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Anf fuck your rotation royalty

wispy parcel
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yea RDM is still a DPS job

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they really dont wanna waste mana on rezzing idiots

agile laurel
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the only thing that resurrects you in an actually good state is healer limit break 3 which is by definition a one off

leaden ginkgo
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so on a scall of 1-10, as a healer on alexander, how much pressure would you say is on them

faint flare
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9

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There's alot of damage

vapid veldt
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it's pretty hard the first two phases

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then zzz

faint flare
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Especially during Brute and Cruise

vapid veldt
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then wake up for j waves

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then zzz

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until enrage

eager widget
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healers have a lot of pressure in ultimates because dps checks are typically tight

faint flare
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With everyone spread

eager widget
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so a death debuff is an OOF

agile laurel
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the thing is with healers in ultimate, dps checks are so tight for the enrage

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healers need to have worked out how to heal with as little effort as possible

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so they can spam dps

leaden ginkgo
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interesting

eager widget
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there’s a lot of room for optimizing and gitting gud

faint flare
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Healing has to basically be precise to squeeze out dps

vapid veldt
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ultimate is more a mechanics check than a dps check

leaden ginkgo
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so litterally this boss is a nonforgiving boss. and if everything isnt perfect its fucking your whole life up

faint flare
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And proper management of raid wide mitigation

agile laurel
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yep

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you got it chief

leaden ginkgo
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sounds like my kinda raid.

eager widget
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for reference Jay, Ultimates on average take about 80+ hours of blind prog start to finish

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assuming everyone is new

leaden ginkgo
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holy fuck

faint flare
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Its very easy to fuck up and cause wipes

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Plus with no checkpoints...

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At all

agile laurel
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that's not factoring the gearing you'll have to do

halcyon glen
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And that's if everyone is REALLY GOOD at their jobs

eager widget
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there’s vid guides and text docs out that speed prog up a lot

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but it’s definitely a hill

faint flare
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Wiping 10mins into the fight when you're trying to learn a mechanic 15mins in is gonna a fuck your morale

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As its a wasted pull

leaden ginkgo
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👀 see im used to fights that are fairly short lengthed but holy crap... thats a whole nother level of stress

faint flare
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You NEED consistency

halcyon glen
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ultimates are hard

faint flare
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As i tell wow people

leaden ginkgo
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id imagine people would rage quit easily

agile laurel
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i've heard ultimate static break mid prog, break wordlessly the moment after clearing the fight

wheat plume
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For squadrons
@faint flare I'm at lvl 50 and never did that, is it worth to do it now?

faint flare
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Its mythic in fucking steriods

raven star
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I do all savages but not Ultimates, I'm not the best but I can clear it xD

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It's really fun

leaden ginkgo
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no kidding? fucking steroids?

wheat plume
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getting those squads

faint flare
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All the steriods you can think

agile laurel
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Plus to even unlock ultimate you have to clear its relevant tier on savage which is not simple to say the least

leaden ginkgo
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can you buy levels. ingame like a max level character?

raven star
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It's easy unsynced with the right friends ;P

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U can buy to level 70 and buy story skips

silver ruin
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you can buy levle skips up to 70 (cap is 80) but its not really recommended

faint flare
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Just casually fighting 5 bosses in a row, no breaks, overlapping mechanics, hidden walls you dont know about until you get there which could change your whole strats...

leaden ginkgo
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interesting

silver ruin
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you'll end up with like 2 hotbars of extra skills that you dont know how to use

wispy parcel
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Its heavily recommended you never job skip

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like at all

leaden ginkgo
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thats fair, so unless youre like experienced with the character and class dont do it

untold sand
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efficient leveling is just spamming dungeons at my level?

silver ruin
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or willing to put a crap ton of effort into learning, yea

untold sand
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or just spam palace?

faint flare
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Dungeons if ques are quick

rotund sable
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you say at my level

silver ruin
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dps=palace healer/tank=dungeon

rotund sable
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but not your level

raven star
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Palace players don't really understand their class at max level

halcyon glen
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Example ultimate silliness: If you don't get the right debuffs on your party in phase 1, you automatically wipe at phase 5

twilit arch
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that's honestly not true

raven star
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@leaden ginkgo like i said I'm happy to help u get into end game/savage later and teach u the basics. I have nothing to do due to all the stuff going on irl

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I just dont do ultimates

twilit arch
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just because you use palace to level doesn't mean you won't understand your class, plenty of people also level via dungeons and don't know how to play their class well either

leaden ginkgo
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welp. my minds blown and my curiousity is peaked. that sounds absolutely incredible helliebabe. lol thats fair though

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i gotta learn the basics before going in faces fuckin myself

raven star
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I do have people that might need members for their statics for ultimates if u get there

twilit arch
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ultimately its something that's on the player to 1. read the tooltips, and 2. seek out the various guides created to understand their job

silver ruin
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@leaden ginkgo if you dont mind spoilers you can look up some of theold savage fights

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on youtube etc

wispy parcel
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pretty much ultimates are for insane people with a crap ton of free time

raven star
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Out of context they are not really spoilers

silver ruin
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not lore spoilers per say but fight spoilers

leaden ginkgo
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right

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fight spoilers bring it on. lore spoilers i mildly dislike @_@

raven star
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Oh then dont xD

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You like lore? 😮

leaden ginkgo
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yeah 🙂

raven star
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Nice!

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then dont skip levels,

leaden ginkgo
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one thing WoW is lacking rn

raven star
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Should be able to keep up with levels easily to 60 through MSQ and some roulettes

wispy parcel
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Level skips also auto complete job quests up to 70

raven star
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I'm helping new players through the game, I'm so bored xD

leaden ginkgo
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nice

wispy parcel
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so yea you miss out on a lot of content

leaden ginkgo
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actually i think imma skip out on raid. give me like 10 mins and ill be back on

raven star
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takes people 2-3 months to catch up depending on how much they play the game

leaden ginkgo
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nice

raven star
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So you'll be busy :>

leaden ginkgo
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WoW RN i could hit max level in like 2 days hardcore leveling?

raven star
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There's MSQ, trials and 24man dungeons

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Depends on how hardcore u want to go

twilit arch
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I mean if you wanna be technical you can definitely hit 80 within a few days

raven star
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Deep dungeons u can level pretty quick

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but the story is REALLY long

twilit arch
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that doesn't mean much since you'd still have to do the msq

leaden ginkgo
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i mean. leveling all day and night lol

raven star
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And trust me, the story is good

twilit arch
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because content is locked behind it

wispy parcel
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well its also mainly cause in XIV you have to do everything in order since every xpac is NOT its own individual story. Its all one continuious plotline.

raven star
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yeah u need to do story to get to content

leaden ginkgo
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so stick to the straight content quest gotcha 😛 spam side quest and use them till youre leveled out. right?

raven star
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kinda, xD

faint flare
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Just story quests

leaden ginkgo
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"kill 6 adds" okay ill kill 12

faint flare
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And blue quests

raven star
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level roulette once a day till u unlock 24raid roulette

faint flare
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Yellow side quests are ignoble

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The story will take you through the levels

raven star
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I used to blue mage method to help my friends level faster as well, it's a little slower but it works xD

faint flare
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Cause guys what, your level means nothing

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Story means everything

raven star
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^

leaden ginkgo
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right

ripe hound
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Yeah you unlock nothing at "lv 80"

raven star
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U can get to level 50 through story very easily, my friend just hit 50 today

ripe hound
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You unlock everything at "completed lv 80 story"

leaden ginkgo
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nice

raven star
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Level 50 u have trials and raids as well, then again at 60-70-80

leaden ginkgo
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so would yall say the lower level content is just as active as max or not really?

raven star
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And you will want to complete the coils and the tower before level 60 for lore reasons

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Very active

faint flare
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There's roulettes

ripe hound
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The lower level casual contents are really active

wispy parcel
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all content that is required by MSQ is ALWAYS very active

faint flare
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So dungeons pop at all levels

leaden ginkgo
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oh nice

raven star
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There's a roulette system where people randomly get put into raids/dungeons to get bonus exp to level alts

leaden ginkgo
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thats actually kinda cool. i like that