Or 490
#questions-and-help
leaden ginkgo
Oh you mean current
faint flare
To what the current requirements are
leaden ginkgo
I meant for the new tier
faint flare
To find out the requirements for the next tier
leaden ginkgo
Current eden savage is i500
faint flare
Requirements for raids always go up by 30 in relevance to its last tier counterparts
leaden ginkgo
But how can I get to i530 if current tier is i500?
faint flare
By doing the new Savage tier
leaden ginkgo
New normal drops what ilvl?
leaden ginkgo
Understood
faint flare
New crafted is 510
New tomes os 520
Again, just add +30 ilvls to current gear and you'll have the ilvls for the next tier
leaden ginkgo
So there's no actual reason to drop my entire i500 set for the crafted one other than hardcore progress
glossy flare
Nah, don't do that
leaden ginkgo
I was worried
glossy flare
If you are at that lvl it's better to just farm the normal raid stuff
faint flare
I500 is fine for the first 2 savage floors
leaden ginkgo
It took quite the effort to get i500
faint flare
But its pushing it for the last 2
glossy flare
Again, the 510 crafted gear is for people joining the game at that time
So they can just spend some gil or craft it themselves to get into current raid tier
Otherwise they'd have to start at 430 and work their way up
leaden ginkgo
Yeah, that's what a friend and I did with current tier
But I thought it was the norm
It's the first savage tier I play
I'm fairly new too, 6 months of play
glossy flare
Yeah, it always goes similar to that
Each even patch has the major things like new raid tier and usually the odd patches have the catchup stuff
lavish vortex
hi!!, i want to get the True Ice Katana from shiva extreme, can i go as a SAM unsynced and get it?? is it a rare drop?
glossy flare
Alliance raids and so on
jade quartz
Only racers really need to do that at all tbh
leaden ginkgo
I'm so glad this game gets a lot of content
There's a lot to do, I usually have to decide whether to progress in savage raids or do anything else
open coral
@lavish vortex It's a random drop. You might get every other possible weapon before it drops. The job you go in as won't matter.
vapid veldt
max 10 runs
glossy flare
But yes you can go in unsynced
vapid veldt
since then you have enough drops to straight up buy it
glossy flare
Pretty easy actually
faint flare
ARR doesn't have the buying of gear with totems
lavish vortex
thanks!
open coral
Unsync Shiva is super easy. I do it as WHM sometimes.
prisma mirage
does any tank have heals?
leaden ginkgo
Paladin
glossy flare
Paladin has a heal spell, Gunbreaker has a regen ability
open coral
They all have some kind of healing.
faint flare
All tanks have some form.of heal. Some more major than othetd
prisma mirage
great
glossy flare
DRK has some self heal in the combo, WAR has a huuuuuge self heal
open coral
WAR's gameplay after level... 75-ish? is basically all about healing themselves by smashing the enemies.
vapid veldt
drk does have abyssal drain too but that's part of the dps rotation
open coral
DRK's is probably the weakest self healing of them all.
faint flare
Paladin gets clemency but its a last resort, WAR has nascent flash for Lifesteal, Gnb has a regen and DRK has abyssal drain and souleater heal
glossy flare
Abyssal drain heals a ton in aoe situations tho
prisma mirage
i might try paladin
wispy parcel
GNB has a regen and PLD has a strong healing spell
glossy flare
Not that that happens often
vapid veldt
in optimized play, pld has the least healing
since no healing from 123 combo
and pressing clemency makes them cri
glossy flare
Yeah, you don't use the PLD heal unless something goes very wrong
Which obviously shouldn't happen
open coral
Not if you listen to the PLD in DF
glossy flare
On the plus side, PLD is kinda the best at soloing old content
Because of that heal
wispy parcel
PLD is my fav tank cause of that
leaden ginkgo
Is savage content soloable?
open coral
lol no
leaden ginkgo
Like, Sigmascape
faint flare
Only some of Heavensward savage
open coral
Even Alex needs at least a couple of people.
faint flare
Not any of omega
jade quartz
Not Omega stuff
glossy flare
Yeah Omega is too harsh
wispy parcel
Most even unsynched need at least 3 players
faint flare
Paladin has done a few floors of Alex
open coral
Yeah, I could see PLD doing like, A1-3S, maybe.
Not sure how much further they'd get though.
open coral
A11? Really?
faint flare
Yes
open coral
That's surprising.
faint flare
Hallowed limit cut
open coral
Ahh, okay, yeah, that makes sense.
faint flare
Very specific timing
open coral
That would have really tight timing though.
faint flare
Then its just kinda killing it before the platform dies
I saw theu hallowed after the first cleave hits
But needs precise timing or you'll be server ticked
Its sketchy but doable
open coral
I just think of A11 as being really dps-dependent.
faint flare
Pretty much is
open coral
You've only got so much time to burn the boss before there's nowhere left to stand.
faint flare
The clear i saw was really tight
With current bis
Oh yeah A9 was soloed as well
Pretty much primarily A8 and A12 not soloed
For good reasons
open coral
A12 basically can't be
faint flare
Until we get enough self mitigation/damage reduction for ultimate and kill before Time gates
open coral
Don't the adds at the beginning of A12S also buff each other?
faint flare
A8 is gavel stuff
You can probably eventually get to the point you kill them fast enough to not matter
Moreso down to surviving the ultimate and killing before time gate auto kill
brave ravine
can PLD clear all of A*N yet?
open coral
Maybe?
Might still run into a couple of problematic fights, A12 isn't even easy on Normal, for example
placid sable
I had a question I wanted to ask about just purchasing the game.
So, I play on ps4, and back in may, the starter edition was free and I picked it up.
I stopped playing though, since I had already been busy with other games, and was planning to come back.
So, the complete edition is on sale, and I wanted to ask if I could purchase that, and safely get all the expansions as well, or if I'm better off just picking up shadowbringers.
I'm very new (as in, I haven't even started up again yet), but I wanted to ask anyway.
glossy flare
complete edition includes shadowbringers
placid sable
So, I should still be fine if I pick up the complete edition, even If I have the starter edition?
open coral
If you already had the Starter edition, then all you need to buy is Shadowbringers to own the rest of the game.
The Starter edition is ARR + HW, and Shadowbringers is SB + ShB.
glossy flare
The complete edition is on sale right now though, at least on ps4
Anyway, I don't think this should cause any problems
open coral
It's still cheaper to buy just the expansion, I think.
glossy flare
But I obviously can't guarantee it đ¤ˇ
placid sable
Fair enough.
I tried looking around, but didn't get a solid answer.
Thanks for the input, though.
glossy flare
I mean without a sale to justify it there really is no reason to do that
So yeah, it's a rare case
placid sable
Yeah.
I'll just pick up shadowbringers to stay safe.
Thanks, you two.
patent citrus
which piece should i replace with neo-ishgardian first?
glossy flare
weapon
glossy flare
D:
jade quartz
Donât buy neo ish weapon
patent citrus
i got the 485 artifact
glossy flare
ah yeah, I see
jade quartz
Can get resistance weapon or just tomestone weapon ez
patent citrus
i see, why chest and legs? đ¤
jade quartz
Theyâre the slots with the most stats on them after weapon
leaden ginkgo
Anyone wanna sell me some fine alumen
jade quartz
It goes weapon > chest/legs > head/hands/feet > belt > accessories
wheat plume
I have ARR+HW+SB, right now the complete edition is cheaper than only shadow bringers, It should be fine if I buy complete edition even if I have previous expansions, right?
stable hinge
Sure just transfer to EU
jade quartz
For all combat gear sets
cyan fable
I just made healing as my second class, I never realized how hard it was.. When am I supposed to heal the tank without getting aggro on me
vapid veldt
sounds like a tank problem
stable hinge
tank should have stance on
vapid veldt
usually it's the prepull regen that gets you aggro
jade quartz
Just donât do prepull regen
patent citrus
not sure if you can overwrite the expansion like that đ¤
vapid veldt
but even that it shouldn't be a problem with a decent tank
jade quartz
Though tbh a tank should still be able to deal with that
But itâs simpler for all if you just donât prepull regen
jade quartz
Using regen in dungeons while The tank is pulling the mobs
On bosses it doesnât really matter
jade quartz
But if you regen the tank between trash pulls in dungeons, or while the tank is running and gathering the mobs together
wheat plume
HI. Can I level up a miner as fast as a leatherworker (carrier levequests)?
Because levequests for miner took ages
jade quartz
Then some mobs are liable to peel off the tank and aggro you
vapid veldt
as long as the tank gets aggro back before you die, it's fine
don't even need to heal yourself if you take damage since you won't be taking any more
brave ravine
does disciple of hand/land benefit from road to 70 buff?
jade quartz
Yes
jade quartz
@wheat plume levequests for miner I would characterise as extremely fast actually. With crafters if you have a lot of gil you can just buy the turn in items from other players and just turn them in en masse
leaden ginkgo
It took me ages to login, so I don't want to go through that again via world visit
open ember
Gatherers are very easy to level all thru leave quests
I would argue leveling gathers is easier
At least in my case
sour ruin
Very subjective question but would a Vash the stampede cosplay better fit gunbreaker or mechanist?
open ember
HMMM
sour ruin
I had this idea this morning and now I wanna do it
open ember
Machinist
wheat plume
@wheat plume levequests for miner I would characterise as extremely fast actually. With crafters if you have a lot of gil you can just buy the turn in items from other players and just turn them in en masse
@jade quartz Levequest for miner took me a lot, sometimes they ask for more than 30 items to mine, it can take like 5 minutes for only one, compared to carrier levequests for crafters, I can do a lot in seconds.
Gatherers are very easy to level all thru leave quests
@open ember between finding places to mine to the time it takes to obtain all items , gatherers are very slow to level up for me. I'm noob at the game, please can you tell me how exactly do it faster? Maybe I'm doing something wrong, or maybe not every gatherer levequests is good for it
open ember
@wheat plume did you try using survival manuals while leveling?
They give a SIGNIFICANT boost to exp gain
Its the green manuals
Yellow is for crafters
wheat plume
@wheat plume did you try using survival manuals while leveling?
@open ember I'll search them. But I thing maybe I'm missing something, because I didn't use them with crafters either and I leveled up my crafter way more faster than my gatherer.
open ember
Go to your grand company and exchange them with seals. It should say "Commercial Survival Manual"
Or something along those lines
zinc orbitBOT
wheat plume
Or something along those lines
@open ember I think I don't have seals yet.
lavish vortex
how can i get this item? https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/playguide/db/item/ba83c80215e/
open ember
@wheat plume what level are you? I believe class quest 54ish give you some manuals
1-50 gathering is just. Long anyway
open ember
Then youre almost there
twilit arch
@lavish vortex buy the legacy warrior set from the mogstation
wheat plume
miner 16
lavish vortex
@twilit arch thats the only way? cant get it in game for free?
lavish vortex
thanks!
open ember
I'm trying to think
Of the only other "quick way" to level up gatherers
I did all mine in leves so idk another "fast" way
You're not at HW so you cant access diadem but even then... I don't recommend that
wheat plume
I'm trying to think
@open ember compared to crafters, where I only need to craft and delivery, and repeat, sometimes the delivery is just metters away so I can do it in seconds, and it gives me A LOT of exp
So maybe there is a correct way of doing something similar for gatherers
open ember
Well the whole point to gatherers is to "find the item" then go gatherer it. But like. Most people I know do leves or you could gather random things and raise your level like that...?
Oh wait
I remember now
I gathered random shit to until lv30
Just for EXP
Then I did leves
wheat plume
for example now I'm doing the lvl 10 quest for gathering, it asks me 99 obsidian somthing, but only says vaguely the location, and when I go to a spot there is no obsidian, so I take too much time just trying to find.
and then after finding the place, it can take me a lot of time to gather the high quantity of items required
open ember
Imma be honest I just went to Google and typed in "ff14 Obsidian Ore"
And then someone has the coordinates
And I just go there
It saved me alot of time
wheat plume
Hahaha, thanks. That's the correct way of doing it I was searching for.
open ember
Good i'm glad you found a way
lavish vortex
how do i access The Interdimensional Rift?
wheat plume
Yeah, this game has A LOT of different things to learn, more than advanced fighting games gameplay and frames knowledge, hahaha.
These past few days I've been learning a lot of things, it's like If I'm back at college.
Having a better pickaxe makes me find more items in a spot?
warped nest
No
manic flare
am i supposed to go through hall of the novice again if i switch from a dps class to a healer class?
warped nest
Your 3 gatherer stat
- GP: basically your mana point, using skills cost GP
- Gathering: improve the chance to successfully gathering an item
- Perception: improve the chance to get High Quality item
Hall of Novice is optional
But if you are super new to these, you can do it to learn the basic and get a decent starting gear set
soft tundra
The Brand New set is pretty good for early levels (~15-25 iirc). Gives you the Brand New Ring as well, +30% exp when under Lv30
stable hinge
whats the priority for melding gatherer gear?
manic flare
@warped nest can i get the gear again if i did hall of the novice for a different class?
warped nest
how do i access The Interdimensional Rift?
@lavish vortex if you mean the thing for Stormblood Omega raid
obsidian patio
@lavish vortex if youâve already completed the Omega raid series then you canât without using NG+. If youâre still doing it the entrance NPC should be around x31, y32 of the Fringes.
lavish vortex
yes!
warped nest
What Wynne said
lavish vortex
@obsidian patio thanks, im trying to unlock Sigmascape 2
but cant find the quest, i think its inside there
warped nest
@manic flare I believe so
whats the priority for melding gatherer gear?
@stable hinge for max level, check out the pin in #doh-dol-lounge
manic flare
@warped nest are the trials in hall of the novice different for different classes?
warped nest
They are different for different roles
obsidian patio
@stable hinge entirely depends on what youâre gathering or what breakpoints youâre trying to reach. The balance discord has a bunch of different sets and info for that in their DoH/DoL resource channel
!faq balance
zinc orbitBOT
stable hinge
that discord is confusing as hell sometimes ngl
obsidian patio
The channel you need is at the very bottom of the FFXIV Resources category of channels
stable hinge
do I even need to meld on full 490 gear?
warped nest
HQ Aesthete gear is the very best gear for Shadowbringers
stable hinge
breakpoints?
obsidian patio
The node bonuses
warped nest
And if properly melded, will last you into lvl 90 contents in 6.0
obsidian patio
Also used to refer to when your yield increasing skills get more items
!action bountiful harvest ii
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stable hinge
oh
obsidian patio
!action pick clean
zinc orbitBOT
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warped nest
999 - 1 item
1000 - 2 items
1001 to 1499 - still 2
1500 - 3
Example number. So by this breakpoint, it is wasting stat if you cannot reach 1500
Just example
obsidian patio
Your other main yield increasing skill
stable hinge
makes sense
wheat plume
Your 3 gatherer stat
- GP: basically your mana point, using skills cost GP
- Gathering: improve the chance to successfully gathering an item
- Perception: improve the chance to get High Quality item
@warped nest Is it normal to take sometimes 5 minutes in only one levequest for gatherers?
stable hinge
so I should just meld to 1500 perception
stable hinge
oh I see
obsidian patio
5 minutes sound pretty average depending on the exact type of gatherer leve
warped nest
This means that you should try to avoid investing melds into stat you have already max out in breakpoints
obsidian patio
Since one of the types only has you go through 4 nodes, while others want you to gather from 8-10 nodes or possibly more
warped nest
Or stat you can never hit the next breakpoint no matter how you meld
Tips: if you reach the max score for the gatherer leve, you don't get more bonuses, don't spend GP on the remaining gathering attempts/nodes. Save your GP for the next leve.
wheat plume
Is there a video on youtube fo someone doing entre level gathering very efficiently, maybe I'm doing all wrong, because for What I can see, gathering is just repeating the same actions (walking, press X, waiting) for a lot of minutes for verry little exp, and if you take too much time you don't get it in time and have to repeat it all over again, and it takes you more time to just find the correct places for gathering the items you need.
I don't think that gathering is so repetitive/boring, so maybe I'm doing it all wrong.
granite swan
Gathering is best leveled via Leves
twilit arch
are you maxing out the difficulty for the leve
wheat plume
Gathering is best leveled via Leves
@granite swan I've been doing that, but it takes ages compared with crafting, with leves for crafting I can get tons of exp in seconds
twilit arch
also its going to take a bit longer than crafting
because you have to go out to the location and gather
wheat plume
are you maxing out the difficulty for the leve
@twilit arch No
obsidian patio
Make sure your gear is up to date too for best success rates
And liberal use of your mount for fast movement
Leves in the expansion area generally assume you already have flying for how spread out the nodes are.
If youâre at 50 and above
twilit arch
but you really shouldnt compare crafting to gathering since you can park yourself in one spot to make a shitton of leve items and then turn in ad nauseum
Gathering doesn't allow that (barring fishing since its turns in like crafting)
wheat plume
but you really shouldnt compare crafting to gathering since you can park yourself in one spot to make a shitton of leve items and then turn in ad nauseum
@twilit arch well, that's exactly what I'm searching for, the fastest way of level up my gatherer. Just like there is that metod for crafters
twilit arch
its leves
slate arrow
it's leves
twilit arch
but its not going to be as fast as crafting elves for the exact reason i said
Crafting leves you can premake everything
slate arrow
the closest second is turning in a crap ton of collectibles at the same time
twilit arch
you're still going out and gather even with collectables
granite swan
and most of the collectables are on stupid timers so u have to constantly move zone to zone to zone >.>
slate arrow
It used to be worse before the crafting leveling rework
wheat plume
Another question: with crafters a lot of times only 1 crafter leve gives me more than 50% exp I need to go to next level (so I can level up in less that 1 minute).
Can that happen with gatherer leves too? even if it takes me 5-10 minutes for only 1 gatherer leve, to get so many exp than with 2-3 leves I level up? And repeat that for fast level up?
patent citrus
how does ilvl gets sync? like if i have 5 gears 490 and 5 gears 430 and instance ilvl is sync'd to 460
will only the 490 got reduced? or ?
granite swan
@wheat plume When picking up leves it shows how much xp you will get, theres usually one with lower xp and one with higher xp, if thats what you mean
twilit arch
personally i just grab all of the leves available since they're generally in the same area, max their difficulty, and then turn in. Not necessarily the most efficient way of doing leves but it worked nicely for me
desert rapids
Hey if im playing starting black mage and i want to play warrior where can i find it? Also summoner.
patent citrus
warrior is in limsa, summoner is in gridania
desert rapids
Ok....im in desert ill find it thank you
vapid veldt
!faq ultimatesync
zinc orbitBOT
patent citrus
sorry, for summoner first you gotta talk to the arcanist guild in limsa @desert rapids
vapid veldt
there's a calculator to find out how much stats the synced pieces will lose
on the bottom of the embed
proud willow
You need to progress to at least the level 15 MSQ 
to get to Limsa from Ul'dah
wheat plume
@wheat plume When picking up leves it shows how much xp you will get, theres usually one with lower xp and one with higher xp, if thats what you mean
@granite swan I know you can choose the leve and see the exp it gives, but crafter leves gives me a lot of exp, so much that with 1 leve was enough to level up sometimes. That never happened with leves for dps (usually I need to do 10 leves for level up with my Dragon, but with my crafter only 1-2 leves are enough). That's my question, It looked like the exp you get from crafter leves isn't balanced.
twilit arch
combat leves have always been shit
and they boosted xp for crafting/gathering while not bothering with combat because combat leves aren't used
obsidian patio
Crafter leves also got massively buffed
wheat plume
and they boosted xp for crafting/gathering while not bothering with combat because combat leves aren't used
@twilit arch exactly, but the exp I get from gatherer leves is somewhat shitty too.
patent citrus
maybe you can share how many exp are you getting for your currenct level
shitty seems subjective
twilit arch
I'm just going to flat out say that leves are by far and away the best way source of xp for gatherers. with collectables, daily namazu/qitari/gc turn ins being your other main sources
manic flare
how do you spec your chocobo if you are healer role
twilit arch
if you want to level gatherers quickly, leves are it
patent citrus
same, healer
little swift
no reason not to
patent citrus
now you can focus on dps-ing, let the chocobo heal you
twilit arch
tank 'bo is shit
little swift
healers the only thing that does anything worth talking about
twilit arch
and even as a healer you'll easily pull aggro from it
little swift
so you can just cast more damage while it heals you
jade quartz
Tank is useless, dps does garbage dps
twilit arch
healer chocobo is generally the most worth with attack coming in second even though its not that amazing
jade quartz
Healer actually helps you survive
manic flare
so tank chocobo is next to useless?
jade quartz
Pretty much
manic flare
healer and dps chocobo is most helpful?
jade quartz
Healer by far
patent citrus
i think the highest level tank skill is useful.. someone mentioned
but for the basic role, better choose healer
the first 10 level i mean
jade quartz
Well eventually you can max all three trees
manic flare
is there a way to make your chocobo rank up faster
jade quartz
Do the weekly challenge logs
little swift
nope slam your head against the wall when your challenge logs are finished
its not meant to be a quick process
jade quartz
Thereâs an exp food but I donât really think itâs worth the bother
twilit arch
tank skills are basically the last set of skills you should be getting, assuming you're bothering to max out your 'bo
you can buy cheap food from vath
manic flare
what is the best beast tribe to befriend at first
if you are crafter
and want to level up crafting
or i guess for making gil
jade quartz
Ixal below level 50, Moogles 50â60, Namazu 60â70, Dwarves 70â80
plain python
get chocobo's healer to rank 4, which offers a direct heal. It will help classes without healing ability like Black Mage. The rest, just dump to DPS role
patent citrus
noo, get lv 10
plain python
Not necessary. Your chocobo will mostly be in DPS mode and you want it to kill stuff fast. The healing is just in case.
jade quartz
Eh?
Kill stuff fast? Itâs not gonna do that no matter what
The healing is the main draw tbh
jade quartz
Iâd recommend just maxing healer first, then dps, then tank
Simple
Min-maxing it isnât gonna give any worthwhile results
Plus you unlock bardings 
plain python
I think it kill stuff fast enough? I just send them to one monsters, while myself focus on other
jade quartz
Thatâs way more effort than most people put in
granite swan
I mean, chocobo does like 3k a peck at lv 80, max dps build might boost him to what? 6-9k per peck? Thats not gonna really change much
jade quartz
Keep choco in free stance always
open ember
Don't be like me and be left out with nothing but dps to level.... Idk what a instaqueue felt like in a LONG time. And I have 2 classes left
open ember
Chocobo bulids oh my
manic flare
should i level all the classes to 70 asap, since my server is preferred?
jade quartz
Not player classes
leaden ginkgo
hello, is there a guide to level our free company rank?
jade quartz
If you want @manic flare
open ember
Oh I read that wrong haha
jade quartz
I edited it đ
plain python
well, the worst case, you can just exchange 20 allied seals for a chocobo reset
open ember
I saw that
leaden ginkgo
there are some free companies that have free actions, but in our company we have to pay to get the buffs, how can we unlock the free buffs?
plain python
either heal or dps. Tank is the last, but only for the passive, don't bother to switch it to tank stance
zinc orbitBOT
jade quartz
@leaden ginkgo there are no free buffs, youâve heard wrongly
manic flare
i find chocobo only useful for FATEs
jade quartz
FCs must buy them or craft them
manic flare
should i be doing more stuff with chocobo
manic flare
i am summoner, but i die too quickly in the level 50+ FATEs
jade quartz
Or larger hunts that arenât so large that chocos overload the place
manic flare
evne with good gear
if i am soloing
only way i dont die is with healer chocobo i guess
jade quartz
Thatâs the idea yeah
obsidian patio
Fates with a boss in them require self-sustain most of the time
plain python
well, Chocobo only works overworld, so yeah, it is only useful in overworld stuff. If anything, it helps finishing the last ditch of HP on a monster and you don't want to bother going through your skill animation
obsidian patio
Or a big enough group to kill it fast
plain python
I just send them to a monster, while I kill another in FATE
or switch them to heal when I decide to kite and AoE in soloing FATE
manic flare
is there a hotkey to cycle through FATE monsters?
jade quartz
No
manic flare
i keep targetting nonFATE mobs
plain python
click it with your mouse đ
manic flare
does AOE also hit nonFATE mobs if they are nearby?
granite swan
yes
manic flare
why are FATES in coerthas so much harder than FATES in mor dhona even there's only a 4 level difference
plain python
which FATEs? careful of boss FATEs where music is different. They are like elite bosses that are hard to solo
faint flare
Because of the much higher ilvl job that happens at 50
jade quartz
Thereâs a big stat jump for HW
soft flicker
does anyone know why goberin doesnt offer me emperors new items?
halcyon glen
have u completed the right quest yet?
granite swan
Do you have a lv 15 crafter?
halcyon glen
Falcon's Nest is a post-50 area
soft flicker
i have a level 15 crafter yeah
halcyon glen
and thus expects item level 115
Mor Dhona is a level 49 area
and thus expects item level 49
Both item level sync to roughly 135
If you;re looking to do Yokai fates in HW zones, you want to look for areas that sync above 60 so you can bring your 270 gear in
honest anvil
does the exp boost manual boost exp gain from ishgard turn-ins?
halcyon glen
The best one being the Hinterlands
twin grail
How's it going everyone? I'm as greenhorn as it gets to this game lol
desert rapids
How far in do i have to be to go frpm thaumaturge town to marauder town
faint flare
And you need a airship to get there
Which you get access to at lv15 MsQ with Uldah Envoy
ripe hound
Even if I'm not using BiS so I have some Sps on RDM, I should still not meld anymore right?
manic flare
why do people want to do praeotirum over castrum meridanum in duty roulettes
open ember
For EXP
ripe hound
The longer one gives more EXP and the shorter one is shorter
open ember
ans poetics
little swift
Even if I'm not using BiS so I have some Sps on RDM, I should still not meld anymore right?
@ripe hound correct, don't meld more and screw over your alignment more
open ember
Those are the #1 reasons
ripe hound
kk
uncut pendant
any tips for first time savage aside from watching a guide? current gear is melded relic and aug neoish+pb 
ripe hound
DH over Det for RDM right?
obsidian patio
DET and DH are pretty equal for RDM
ripe hound
kk
manic flare
should i get gear with piety for RDM
spiral prairie
not sure if this is the right place to ask, but can anybody help me with mudfish?
manic flare
for RDM's vercure?
faint flare
You lucid
faint flare
Except blm
patent citrus
yeah, use it on cd hehe
faint flare
And summoner doesn't really need it unless you're chain ressing people
obsidian patio
RDM and SMN pretty much never run out of MP with proper use of Lucid if you donât need to raise
warped nest
It is very very hard to run out of MP as caster
From just doing your damage skill
it was a thing way back in 2013, where melee dps can run out of TP from doing just single target rotation
Things have changed to be less miserable
open ember
How to run out of mp as a caster: mass rez
But no you don't really "run out of mp" in the long run
Luckily TP ain't a thing anymore
rugged flicker
So at the moment, with my HQ Facet Round Knife with three overmelds equipped I have:
Craftsmanship: 2645
Control: 2362
But with the Dragonsong Round Knife I have:
Craftsmanship: 2642
Control: 2374
Should I go with Dragonsong since the control boost is much more significant?
manic flare
whats the best ARR dungeon to gain exp if you already did the roulette?
jade quartz
The highest-level one you have access to, not counting level 50 dungeons.
rugged flicker
@manic flare FATE farming is a good place to get EXP too, especially right now since you can farm the Yokai Watch weapons while doing them.
jade quartz
Ehhh I wouldnât say itâs âgoodâ
It can fill the time during queues if thereâs nothing else to do
twin sequoia
Arguably a horrible time too because by the time you get to the fate theyâre already finished
twin sequoia
Oh itâs died down?
halcyon glen
The BLU spammers all finished weeks ago
plain python
do you lose chocobo-role barding if you reset training?.
leaden ginkgo
Are there any tricks that I can use t make my character look older? Not looking for ancient but 30s would be nice
plain python
being bald, have scars
twilit arch
yes, the chocobo role barding is tied to having the rank 10 skill of that tree
jade quartz
@plain python yes you do
Hyur, Elezen, male Miqoâte and Roegadyn have some older-looking faces
Thinner, sharper jaws and smaller eyes give an older look
cosmic token
Are gil chemistries any good?
jade quartz
Nah not really
cosmic token
I couldn't find the gil rewards, so I wasn't sure how much that would be in the case of a proc
zinc orbitBOT
leaden ginkgo
Do I have to progress further into the main story to unlock the viera race? I'm pretty new to the game and I've already bought the Shadowbringer expansion while it was on sale on steam.
halcyon glen
Just owning it
crisp ether
you just need to own shadowbringers
halcyon glen
the expansion, that is
crisp ether
races are not unlocked in game, just applied to your account when you own that expansion
leaden ginkgo
i own shadowbringer yet I can't seem to pick the viera race since it's locked
manic flare
whats the point of buying hailstorm gear at Hismena when u can buy the better shire gear at the same price?
faint flare
Glamour
twilit arch
did you apply the code to your account/let the game download the expansion?
queen flame
Can you get all the achievement mounts and minions? Or are there not enough points?
twilit arch
you still need to register the expansion to your mogstation account
faint flare
Yes, they're way too many points you'll have tons left over
twilit arch
there are way more achievement points than there are items to buy with achievement certs
leaden ginkgo
how do i register the expansion to my mogstation account?
twilit arch
there should be a cd key section int he steam library
find that and then use the "enter expansion code" button to apply the code to your account
cosmic token
Where can I find how much gil I get from missions? I only see this
faint flare
You dont get to see how much you get from chemistries until they return
Since its a random amount what they bring back
cosmic token
oh so the chemistry thing is the only gil I'd get?
it's not like bonus of what I'd get usually
faint flare
Yes, missions dont really give gil, just the xp and items listed
cosmic token
oh okay that makes more sense
and is there any like range of how much gil it could be?
proven sparrow
so i'm just learning how to tank. kinda trying to get a gauge for emnity but it feels like emnity up+1 aoe keeps mobs attached to you near indefinitely. is it really this easy?
faint flare
Chemistry rewards are just small bonuses ontop of the usual if they proc
Aggro is extremely easy these days
proven sparrow
sick
faint flare
Just stance up and hit shit
rugged flicker
So no thoughts on that question regarding crafting tools from earlier? :x
proven sparrow
this is so much easier than wow tanking i actually might stick with it lol
faint flare
As long as you hit stuff, you'll never lose aggro
proven sparrow
do i need to rotate through mobs even? feels like no
obsidian patio
@cosmic token last time I did squadrons Gil chemistry gives around 8-10k Gil if it procs
cosmic token
proven sparrow
oh i thought 1,2,3 combo was better for just 2 mobs
obsidian patio
For most jobs itâs 2 or 3
silver ruin
@rugged flicker uh what was your question
obsidian patio
rugged flicker
So at the moment, with my HQ Facet Round Knife with three overmelds equipped I have:
Craftsmanship: 2645
Control: 2362
@rugged flicker
obsidian patio
For when each job usually aoes at
rugged flicker
But with the Dragonsong Round Knife I have:
Craftsmanship: 2642
Control: 2374
@rugged flicker
silver ruin
sooo your craftmanship is really high compared to control, as for which is better id say dragonsong cuz its slightly more control
im not quite sure what you're trying to craft though, if its the new gear your craftmanship is fine but you'll wanna use control food
lavish vortex
Hi! You can buy dog mounts with 99 totems?
halcyon glen
yes
proven sparrow
about how many days should it take to get kojin manta ray mount from 0?
remote lintel
you probably wont need that many
errant ginkgo
Hello, how do i need unlock the titanbronze nugget recipe? D:
obsidian patio
@proven sparrow about two weeks IIRC
proven sparrow
thanks
obsidian patio
@errant ginkgo automatically unlocked as you level up
proven sparrow
that's at 3 quests a day?
proven sparrow
thanks
loud hearth
How complicated is being a tank in FF? I'm considering changing over from Dragoon to Dark Knight
granite swan
@proven sparrow on days you rank up, you can do 6 though
proven sparrow
oh cool
lavish vortex
@halcyon glen where do you buy the dogs from with totems?
white canopy
Is there a way to get the black mage chocobo barding still?
halcyon glen
Dogs are stormblood, so that expac's endgame area of Rhalgr's Reach
obsidian patio
@white canopy buy it with achievement certificates from Jonathas in Old Gridania
queen flame
Can I change my skin color?
obsidian patio
Heâs marked on the map with a trophy icon
With a Fantasia, yes.
You get one for free from the story at level 50. Any past that must be bought from the mogstation
lavish vortex
@halcyon glen thanks!
tawdry otter
someone know where i can find every lvl 80 class questline?
obsidian patio
Theyâre all at wherever your job trainer usually stands at
You can use garland tools to look it up for each job
silver ruin
how long does it normally take to do a sb relic from start to finish?, assuming you've never done one before
tawdry otter
@obsidian patio well its a problem for me to use garlond because i playing with a german client and the most phrases are english đ
obsidian patio
You can switch it to German at the top
tawdry otter
yea but the filter isnt german đ
obsidian patio
It should look for it in German if you switch it to that
granite swan
@silver ruin an eternity cause it requires Eureka Grinding >.<
tawdry otter
well i found this here now: https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/330f2b280067d69d85b17831c66712a499e97484 they are posted the location^^
obsidian patio
As an alternative, open up the âquestsâ tab of it and then look through the class and job quests
đ
silver ruin
well yea its a relic was more looking for a timeframe, 2 weeks? a week? idk
granite swan
You have to do an entire alternate leveling system, so it depends on how much time you sink into it
also probly depends if people on your datacenter are actually doing Eureka stuff
leaden ginkgo
does this game block mouse software?
silver ruin
fair enough
leaden ginkgo
I have a logitech mouse, I want to bind the key 2 to one of my buttons, but it doesn't work
it doesn't work in game
granite swan
@silver ruin Like you need 1-20 + Quests and tons of grinding for first area, then 2nd area is 20-35 and more grinding, then 3rd etc
@leaden ginkgo You have to add the dx11 exe, it auto finds the dx9 one i think
silver ruin
hm ok thanks
zinc orbitBOT
leaden ginkgo
@granite swan thank you
manic flare
where can i buy allagan tomestone of poetics
remote lintel
you dont buy them
clear glen
Is the tales of adventure worth getting?
wispy parcel
It directly skips content which I really wouldnt recommend
proven sparrow
^. if you're just looking to hit endgame i'd say it's worth it but otherwise nah
wispy parcel
especially considering this game is heavily story based
silver ruin
generally if you play for the story its not worth it
clear glen
Just getting super sick of the never ending quests. Seems would be simplier just to grind dungeons.
manic flare
dont u get special items from tales?
silver ruin
you'll be confused as towho people are etc
proven sparrow
@clear glen what level are you?
silver ruin
only catch up gear basically, and not even a f ull set, you can obtain that stuff otherwise normally
wispy parcel
yea this aint like other MMO's where every expansion is something completely different
clear glen
@proven sparrow I am 36 atm. And haven't even finished the lvl 30 MSQ.
proven sparrow
@clear glen story/pacing get a lot better starting with heavensward if it helps
clear glen
I leveled purely doing MSQ and Class quests only
proven sparrow
yeah that's proper progression for this mmo
wispy parcel
Being overleveled is normal in this game
little swift
that said, if you have no interest in the story its perfectly fine to buy a skip
clear glen
I really don't care about the story. I just want to unlock Dark Knight to switch over
wispy parcel
Fair warning
if youre only into raiding we only get 4 new savage raids every 4 months
the main focus of the game is the story first and foremost
proven sparrow
if you don't care about the story the skip is going to save you a lot of time and i would say is worthwhile. That being said starting level 50+ the story gets significantly better with way better pacing
clear glen
I don't have the time for raiding. My job keeps me busy
clear glen
nope just unlocks. there is a boost that instantly makes your job lvl 70
little swift
which is a job skip
proven sparrow
not worth, better to skip cutscenes/dialogue imo
little swift
with all the msq skipped, you'll also have access to all the leveling dungeons
to level you to the correct level
proven sparrow
that is fair
sinful mist
Yeah like it's a few hours of grind if you skip the cutscenes. Not worth the money
wispy parcel
Im a bit confused, if you dont really want to raid, Why would you skip 80% of the games content?
proven sparrow
arr post patches was a fucking slog
uncut pendant
any other use for immaculate totem outside of gwiber/accessories? safe to discard?
sinful mist
Many fetch quests
clear glen
because I am tired of spam clicking past dialogue and running retarded errands. I'd rather just level in a grind
keen fable
what they're saying is, you are skipping the story
and then not playing the game after
essentially
little swift
you can grab accessories and turn those in for company seals @uncut pendant
clear glen
I would play. Just not hardcore.
little swift
or desynth them for materials that you can sell
manic flare
@keen fable are you the (in)famous skyrim modder?
wispy parcel
Youre pretty much paying to not play the game
manic flare
on nexusmods
keen fable
little swift
the post arr quests were also pruned
uncut pendant
oooh, ex drop are all tradable for seals?
little swift
yes the old ones are
proven sparrow
@little swift i went through them as soon as they patched it it's still bad
uncut pendant
i see thanks
proven sparrow
idk what it was before but 2.1+ is fucking awful even now
sinful mist
It's still grindy but flight helps
manic flare
@keen fable im just kidding a bout the infamous part
little swift
2.1 is the one that was cut short the most
manic flare
if you are him
little swift
2.5 had no pruning
keen fable
no i'm not
little swift
objectively the number of quests have been reduced and that's a fact
keen fable
post arr is a lot more bearable now
little swift
and the plot matters
keen fable
it's not really a slog anymore
proven sparrow
i'm just saying them pruning it doesn't help people that already think ARR is a slog because it's still a shitty slog post ARR until HWS
keen fable
it actually feels like story
little swift
well, you're not helping either by giving people a bad first impression calling it a slog
that doesn't send a nice message either
manic flare
it is a slog
proven sparrow
i am giving my opinion
little swift
and detracts player attention
manic flare
why is beginning of ARR so shitty
proven sparrow
sorry if that doesn't help your narrative
keen fable
it's not really a slog anymore
little swift
or opinion
sinful mist
Yeah I'm glad I played arr and listened to the plot because heavensward is so great
proven sparrow
i started 1-80 2 months ago first time. 1-50 is a shitty new player experience
i'm not gonna sugar coat it
manic flare
@proven sparrow extremely, i had a friend quit and went back WoW
keen fable
either way, telling new players that isnt a good idea
sinful mist
It's not that bad.
little swift
also this isn't the place for that conversation
proven sparrow
i'm giving him a fair warning, he isn't enjoying it 1-30 he's probably gonna have some problems post patches
manic flare
fwiw, it was more of a slog before
from what i've heard
they've significantly cut down on the slog
little swift
it was definitely much worse before
wispy parcel
I thought it was a way better leveling experience than other MMO's rn
little swift
flying and the pruning has helped it
sinful mist
It's a little grindy from time to time but it's not like wow doesn't have grindy quests
keen fable
it definitely is a better leveling experience than a lot of other mmos
keen fable
the core point is this, stop telling new players that, because it taints their view of the game from the getgo instead of allowing them to draw a conclusion themselves
little swift
either way, conversation is finished
proven sparrow
@keen fable he was literally asking for an opinion on whether to story skip
i'm not gonna lie to him and say he's past the boring early game
i love this game but 1-50 is not a great new player experience
clear glen
I already knew this was a slog from 30-49. I watched leveling guides, they warned.
I also have a friend who used to play and he gave me fair warning.
keen fable
you could've said - "it's up to you - some people think its good, some bad, but a gneral consensus is not to story skip"
proven sparrow
or i can give my opinion and not let you censor me because you don't agree?
keen fable
"i personally didnt like it, but i want you to draw your own opinion"
little swift
CONVERSATION
IS FINISH
CEASE
thanks
i'm ok with people giving their opinion but at this point we're well past that
loud hearth
This is a dumb question, but how do I get through the first duty for Dark Knights?
I'm absorbing too much darkness?
narrow vale
At what lvl can I start palace of the dead
sinful mist
@clear glen my advice. Look at the msq quests. How many there are and if you think that's too much for you. Then decide.
clear glen
@sinful mist that's fair. I'm debating on doing it. Just would enjoy dungeon leveling more than what I'm doing now. But that also may be tempered because I am in the hell levels.
little swift
for the dark knight quest you have to absorb some of the darkness iirc, but its been a long time since i did the quests
from a story perspective @clear glen you're about to reach a midpoint where it starts to climb towards a climax
and then 2.1-2.3 is a wrap up of that base story
and 2.4-2.5 are a prologue to heavensward
keen fable
it also sets the tone for the rest of the story, it does connect to the next expansion, and the base ideas remain
little swift
skipping that may leave you a little lost in heavensward, but not like you can't do that
and keep in mind there are also post patch quests after every expansion's base story
only ARR's is the longest to any extent
the others are much shorter by comparison
that said it becomes what you value, your time or your money
clear glen
thanks
gusty pasture
can I translate my GC seals into crystal sand for anima weapon?
manic flare
is there a mod that lets u have camera control during a cutscene?
wispy parcel
there probably is though that may be very disorienting
little swift
can I translate my GC seals into crystal sand for anima weapon?
@gusty pasture not directly, but you can trade in GC seals for moonstones which cna be traded for crystal sands
its not particularly worth though
hexed steeple
im not sure if its possible to answer this question. But im a interested in playing the game, but it wont give me a free trial and i dont know anyone who plays this game. Is it worth playing?
zinc orbitBOT
little swift
can you not download that?
gusty pasture
I have 50k currently sitting and I dont have a crafting/leveling job so might as well use it
wispy parcel
I have about 400 hours in it and will say that if you are looking for a narrative heavy final fantasy game (and one of the best narratives FF has had in decades) then yea its worth it
little swift
its much more worth to use those seals on the other items for the anima weapon imo
hexed steeple
oh huh thats weird
little swift
because the moonstone to sand ratio is pretty meh
little swift
if you don't have crafters leveled, you can try to use the EX primal materials
that or amber-encased vilekin farming
gusty pasture
I'll look up the farming one thanks
wispy parcel
I grinded it out using a levequest in Ishgard that has a 1 in 10 chance of dropping the amber-encased vilekin
works well but youre at the mercy of some heavy RNG
little swift
vilekin farming is not great, but you can do a lot of it if you have a bunch of friends
hexed steeple
@little swift thank you so much! for some reason the site to download it wouldnt let me
little swift
hmm that link is from the site 
interesting
make sure your internet explorer is up to date though
the launcher runs off that
hexed steeple
oh
well shucks
it saids that my account is already register for a service account
and i dont know what that means
wispy parcel
Did you at any point play this game beforehand
hexed steeple
nope
wispy parcel
then thats...weird
zinc orbitBOT
hexed steeple
it saids account type free trial
okay so now what do i do about the one time password
hot eagle
leave it empty if u didn't set one up
granite swan
Even tho it says (Optional) right in the box? :p
hexed steeple
it doesnt for me
echo stratus
I have an issue in just FFXIV, if I enable Gsync and then run 14, it stops sending a signal to my monitor.
All other games are fine.
leaden ginkgo
is there a way to power level a friend's alt from 45 to 50?
we want to start a POTD party with another friend that's already level 50
silver ruin
@leaden ginkgo potd automatically raises or lowers your level, its a separate leveling system, it doesnt matter what level your character actually is just so you have the unlock quest done
little swift
your friend's job outside potd doesn't really matter
they just need it unlocked
ah heck i saw what lycilla typed
silver ruin
lmao
little swift
unless you're talking about the floor they're on
which would be weird that they're not on a floor thats a multiple of 10
hexed steeple
alright im in and downloading the free trial now thank you guys so much
desert rapids
hey which town is the marauder job in?
granite swan
Limsa
crimson wind
Are there any mechanics we don't see in Ivalice raids now because of ilvl?
desert rapids
I picked thaumaturge and just got the airship how long till I can go there?
little swift
keep following msq you're close
granite swan
continue the airship quests, it sends u to all 3 towns
little swift
its one of the next objectives
Are there any mechanics we don't see in Ivalice raids now because of ilvl?
@crimson wind i don't think so? even with ilvl bump most people don't do enough dps to skip any of the notable mechanics
crimson wind
oh so are people bad or are all the mechanics just early in the fights
I'm half sure I had an Orbonne run where we didn't see the ice adds
little swift
wait is limsa lomidsa?
@desert rapids yes, limsa lominsa is the marauder's guild location
desert rapids
ok
just realised
port area
thought diffent place
once i heard (darn) elf say in a cutscene
little swift
i mean its definitely possible that ice adds might be skippable, but i doubt thats a frequent thing
desert rapids
It clicked
west sigil
Some stuff gets skipped in Ivalice, usually when I did it with my DPS main friends, from random runs it seems like thatâs not too common
desert rapids
summoner is G city?
warped nest
Limsa
west sigil
Conjurer is Gridania
eager widget
grab Arcanist for Salmoner and youâll get a free healer out of it too (unless they patched that out already)
west sigil
I still think itâs a thing
warped nest
Limsa has Arcanist (Summoner/Scholar), Marauder/Warrior, and Rogue/Ninja
narrow vale
At what lvl can I join an FC?
desert rapids
is the dark knight here too?
eager widget
dark knightâs in Heavenswardâs city
youâll have to reach the city via main story progress to get that job
iron sparrow
I know early game isnt indicative of how a class plays later but do casters get more...idk engaging?
desert rapids
I cant wait for caster combos
eager widget
yes very, Summoners have to juggle pet summons, dot uptime, blasting Ruins
Red Mages get a ton of stuff, Black Mages get a new nuke every sunday at this rate lmao
the earlygame is definitely slow and a drag tho, but it does get better đ
outer plank
maybe its just me, but after messing around on my drk (its lv 70, leveling it now), it just doesnt feel right
eager widget
it clicks at 72+ from what I hear
outer plank
it feels like im just spamming soul eater combo over and over with a bunch of off gcds
eager widget
itâs one of those jobs where it really feels off without your full kit
outer plank
maybe, but just looking at its skills past 70, just a combo for unleash, upgrade for the of darkness skills and living shadow
ehhh i like the lore and design
but it just dont click compared to war and paladin
hoping once im done gun breaker is a lot more fun
eager widget
Gunbreaker is fun until you get continuation, and then it gets even better
72-80 is just icing on the cake with upgrades and free cartridges
outer plank
yeah i hear at 70 its really fun, looks fluid from what ive seen to
ripe hound
For most purchases on Market Board, it's that the seller sets a price like 1000 gil.
And when purchasing, the buyer will spend 1050 gil because 5% tax.
And when the purchase is completed, the Seller will receive 950 gil because of 5% tax.
Is this right?
silver ruin
yes
tax rates vary though, ive seen like, 2-3% tax in some cities for some periods for some odd reasons or another
ripe hound
I see.. 10.5% tax in total.. quite a lot of tax
Yeah and buyer tax is gone if you purchase in the same selling city
leaden ginkgo
does it matter what my current gear is if I decide to level a job in the palace of the dead?
little swift
does it matter what my current gear is if I decide to level a job in the palace of the dead?
@leaden ginkgo correct gear doesn't matter inside palace of the dead
summoner isn't in gridania
until you finish the arcanist class quests
ripe hound
How does the Crafter Mastery books work?
I mean the books you use to unlock more crafting recepies
Do I need to buy all of them or just buy them when I need them?
clear glen
Dark Knight requires you to be level 50 in a class to unlock correct?
Providing you have the MSQ story line open
analog gate
yes, and have access to ishgard
halcyon glen
Yes, but the more functional requirement is that . MSQ gate
ripe hound
Also those are all the Master Recipes right? So 5 books in total?
halcyon glen
Coming to Ishgard, the quest that gives you access to Ishgard and with it the Dark Knight class, is the 83rd level 50 MSQ @clear glen
83rd or 82nd. I forget. Doesn't matter.
Point is, you'll be 50 for a long while before unlocking DRK
clear glen
@halcyon glen strange something I read said I needed to have a job class at 30 with Ishgard open. I said f'it and got the unlock
leaden ginkgo
does my job level matter before entering palace of the dead?
warped nest
You read it wrong
halcyon glen
Ishgard being open is the operative word
clear glen
I am standing next to the Ishgardian Citzen with my MSQ unlocked to 70
he won't give the quest...
halcyon glen
The DRK unlock quest, by virtue of being in Ishgard, requires a level 50 DoH/DoL
warped nest
!faq hwjobs
zinc orbitBOT
warped nest
Our End has a simple pre requisite quest
halcyon glen
Which they've met via a MSQ but not Job level skip
So they're in Ishgard with no level 50 job
clear glen
@halcyon glen I am level 37 with with SHadows unlock boost
halcyon glen
yeah, the assumption Lchronos made was that as you were in Ishgard, you must be level 50.
Dark Spectacle afaik was removed?
But yes, "Our End" is a level 50 quest and thus you must be a level 50 combat job to accept and complete it
keen fable
is it just me or does leveling feel like it slows down a hell of a lot at 70
halcyon glen
That's because it does, how observant đ
keen fable
as far as alt jobs are concerned
clear glen
ok time to grind some dungeons to 50 I guess. That sucks. Was ready to switch jobs
keen fable
okay so i'm not going crazy?
halcyon glen
Shockingly, double EXP was a Pretty Big Deal
Doesn't help that we have no Deep Dungeon or equivalent (yet) for 71-80 if you want an option that isn't grind dungeons
Though that likely changes in 2 weeks
@clear glen Yeah the game does NOT expect you to be in Ishgard below level 50. Ever.
so doing that kind of breaks things
clear glen
37 to 50 not a big deal to just grind out dungeons. I was going to do that anyway. Guess I do it as a Pally now
ripe hound
By a rough estimate, in end game content, a Tank usually deals around 65% damage of a DPS and a Healer usually deals around 55% damage of a DPS right?
Rough Estimate
little swift
nope
healers and tanks are roughly the same
healers can out dps tanks in some fights
ripe hound
I see
little swift
but 65% is about right
55-65
depending on which dps you're comparing tank/healer damage to
and how much dps (level of skill)
ripe hound
Yeah, I was looking at Wolex FFlogs (because that's the only fight I had done lol), and it seems tanks are dealing more damage than healers
I think it's probably because it's a easier fight (compared to savage) so healers can often clear it without doing much damage
And since it's a easier fight, tank can have a lot of uptime and just dps the boss the whole time
There aren't much situation where the tanks needs to stop DPS in wolex
little swift
the dps check is roughly 70k which is much lower than the savage floors of this tier
and wol ex has a bit of a heal check at the start
ripe hound
Oh right
little swift
depending on your healer comp
you might have people who don't have the tools to deal with that
like double whm means they both have to gcd heal there
ripe hound
How about Double SCH?
ripe hound
I know that AST is like "I may or may not have a dozen or two of oGCD AOE spammables up my sleeves"
little swift
at 95th percentile the damage spread is much closer on the tanks and healers
ripe hound
Yeah
I think a big part is the fact that Healers who don't damage can still clear the fight
Where for Savage content healers need to DPS
little swift
the amount of dps a healer needs to provide isn't high if your tanks and dps do enough tbh
ripe hound
Yeah, to be honest I think I'm just backseat gaming here
I'm only done Wolex since I returned to the game, and I haven't checked my logs or used any pharse
I probably have bad numbers too lol
Best record is 36.8%
Maybe I'm bad at this
I'm AST so I.. um...
...blame teammates for low rDPS?
little swift
more or less
but their contributions won't make up for more than like 25% of your dps at most
crimson wind
Just be a tank
vapid veldt
you can only get so good at pressing malefic
ripe hound
Hey I'm AST â_(:Сăâ )_
vapid veldt
for the adps parse