Free Trial -> Full Game is like 12-16gb more
#questions-and-help
granite swan
open coral
It's the same as if you were to queue for the specific dungeon.
keen fable
so, as a dps then, it's probably quicker to trust?
open coral
Yes
keen fable
i would assume?
zinc orbitBOT
keen fable
even though it takes a bit longer
open coral
Significantly unless your queue times are under 10 minutes.
crimson wind
Trusts are really boring tho
open coral
In which case doing it with real people will be faster since Trusts don't chain pull.
Or use AoE most of the time.
open coral
Except for ||G'raha Tia|| apparently.
keen fable
how do i get more trust members?
open coral
You don't.
keen fable
oh
open coral
You get one additional one at the end of 5.3, but that's it for now
open coral
Yeah
open coral
Not a unique problem, honestly.
open coral
Pick a class you like playing the most, and just go through the story like that.
ShB story is really good.
gritty oracle
Does /pac Place <t> or /pac Heel work on "big boy" summons like Seraph, Bahamut and Phoenix?
keen fable
i keep playing new jobs because i get bored of the other one, get to 70, then get bored again
open coral
I think those are tied to your avatar @gritty oracle
gritty oracle
huh
open coral
@keen fable Are you getting bored with the jobs because you don't find them interesting to play as classes, or because you're bored of rerunning content to grind levels with them?
keen fable
a bit of both i think
my nin, the highest class, i dont like playing because it is takes an extreme amount of effort to kill mobs in the story
so i've been trying to get something else to do that with
slow obsidian
Nier and MHW collab event is permanent or limit time?
slow obsidian
Thank you so much.
fair mango
so even after leveling your crafters you need to find master recipies?
or am i missing something
strange coral
Master books, you can buy most from scrip exchange
strange coral
1-2 (and maybe 3, I don't remember) are from a vendor in Mor Dhona
open ember
1 and 2 are from that vendor in mor dohna where you exchange a HQ item for the book
And demimateria for the demi books
granite swan
What exactly do the Demimateria books give you?
little swift
Some recipes that use demi materia iirc
granite swan
ah
open ember
Yellow crafters scrips are from turning in collectables and custom deliveries
Ishgard scrips are totally separate
fair mango
ah okay sorry i didnt think scrips were another currency
little swift
Yellow/white scrips are like the poetics and phanta of crafters and gatherers
open ember
Its ok bb
fair mango
so theyre weekly gated too?
little swift
No
open ember
Just do your custom deliveries every week
little swift
That's why I didn't call them allegory
open ember
You get 2k max but they're not gated
little swift
Because you can go nuts and grab as much as you want
open ember
Its just
gritty oracle
btw just checked and apparently Seraph can be ordered around with Place and Heel Excalibur.
open ember
The best way to get them is Custom Deliveries
You can do 12 deliveries per week. 6 per client
little swift
Custom deliveries give a tad more but you're limites on allowanced
Regular collectables can br mass turned in like you do in ishgard restoration
You just need materials
keen fable
i've tried them all at this point, i just haven't leveled most of them
i would love to play healer but not having mouseover macros like wow does bugs me
so i've stayed away from that
open coral
You can make mouseover macros though?
lyric warren
why has this dropped so much in price? https://i.imgur.com/GgO1nUJ.png
keen fable
yeah, but you can't que them, and i've heard its clunky
open coral
I mean, you wouldn't queue spells with macros in WoW either...
keen fable
well, for the most part ye
i'm not sure where i heard, but i also heard that they're clunky in some way
i can't remember why
scarlet hinge
You here to complain when u have not tried it?
keen fable
No, i've just avoided it because so many people have said it's not a good idea
open coral
What we say is that you shouldn't queue spells in macros because it drops gcds
open ember
@lyric warren that minion is obtained via kupo fortune so its tanked in prices cuz many already have it
keen fable
ah i see
open coral
Using mouseover macros for healing spells isn't going to kill you though.
scarlet hinge
can't u just do the regular way just fine?
keen fable
i literally have every healing spell as a mouseover in wow, and i was under the impression that i couldnt do that here
yes, but having to re-target the boss is not the best either, which is why i enjoyed mouseover macros
open coral
You can, if you want.
scarlet hinge
the macro retargets the boss after?
open coral
The dropped gcd issue really applies the most to dps classes
open coral
While it does affect healers too, it's really not as big a deal unless you're pushing like, Ultimate or Savage content.
little swift
Double weaving with a macro is inconsistent at best
Thats not to say it isn't usable
open coral
You can get along fine setting your healing spells to mouseover macros in general content.
keen fable
Well, I will be pushing savage and ultimate content, my end goal atm is to get every ultimate weapon
little swift
You can use them in savage
velvet mural
i can't see debuffs on enemy that party puts only my own debuffs does anyone knows how to fix that?
open coral
Personally I stick to Asylum <me> so I don't have to screw around with the targeting reticle.
Also, related, you don't have to click to retarget the boss... you can... use Tab target to jump back.
little swift
Macros softtarget anyways
keen fable
Except when there's multiple enemies
little swift
You don't have to adjust for them
velvet mural
i have show all
keen fable
Gotcha
open coral
Multiple enemies isn't typically the case in boss fights.
keen fable
I found that i could scroll for softtargeting too, but that can be a bit bothersome
I'll try out macros though
velvet mural
keen fable
Am I understanding this correctly when I say that you can't que the GCD after a macro, and that's the issue? Orrr
little swift
You're looking at the wrong setting
hoary storm
Your buffs/debuffs are always listed first. They're sorted at the front. Optionally you can go to UI Settings -> HUD Tab -> Display only detrimental effects you inflict, and it will hide everyone else's.
scarlet hinge
healing regularly is better than macros?
velvet mural
where is the debuffs tab then?
keen fable
when i say macros, i'm referring to mouseovers
little swift
Its both queuing the gcd after a macro
keen fable
luster*
little swift
And queuing a macro after a gcd
keen fable
ah i see
little swift
And Queuing macros in general
open coral
@keen fable Basically the issue with macros is that they only function in whole-second intervals, but the gcd is out to two decimal places, so they don't weave as smoothly as simply pressing the spells in sequence.
keen fable
And this would make a big difference in savage & ultimate content?
keen fable
that super small time makes a difference?
hoary storm
@velvet mural yes
open coral
It can, yes. It adds up over the course of, say, a 5 minute fight.
velvet mural
i had clicked for only me
little swift
UI Settings -> HUD Tab -> Display only detrimental effects you inflict, and it will hide everyone else's.
keen fable
gotcha
scarlet hinge
@open coral so it better not use macros?
open coral
Typically, yes. It is better to simply click or keybind press individual spells @scarlet hinge
little swift
Not to say you cant clear using macros
open coral
But if you're not worried about min-maxing or parsing, then it won't kill you.
scarlet hinge
keybind press individual spells ?
little swift
Its been done
scarlet hinge
hot bars?
open coral
Yes, hotbars
velvet mural
yeah i clicked and didn't knew what happen i got the opposite effect, thanks
open ember
Battle macros are usually not very good. Since your input is faster than the macro itself
scarlet hinge
people click the hot bars as healer?
scarlet hinge
thats weird
little swift
For healing
scarlet hinge
lol
little swift
I can't call it weird if I've seen someone solo heal an ultimate this way
open coral
As an example, the base gcd is something like 2.58s, so if I wanted to queue Swiftcast + Raise into a macro it would have to look like this:
/ac Swiftcast
/wait 3
/ac Raise
That effectively means I'm losing 0.42s every time I use that macro.
scarlet hinge
clicking the party list to heal seems fine
open ember
I'm on controller so I only use party list but if other alliances I click on it
keen fable
can you have so much spell speed that you bring the gcd to 2s?
open coral
You can, theoretically, but it's undesirable for a number of reasons.
little swift
!xivmath rspeed 2.0
zinc orbitBOT
keen fable
That would effectively eliminate the problem, though, right?
open coral
Okay, maybe you can't lol
little swift
Not without a jobs innate buffs
You shouldn't be making a swift raise macro anyways
open coral
Unless you're lazy like me and don't care
little swift
Objectively you shouldn't be linking swiftcast with raise as the only use for it
open coral
I only do because I am legitimately too lazy to press two buttons instead of one to raise people.
granite swan
You know ... why cant we steal the skills we use in the Role Quest? That would clear up so much hotbar space 😦
open coral
And since I don't do Savage, EX, or Ultimate content, it doesn't make a difference to my clears.
keen fable
I wonder if they'll ever change macros to not work on whole numbers
little swift
Nope
open coral
Way more trouble than it would be worth, tbh
little swift
They don't want people to become even lazier
open coral
Also something about discouraging botting?
little swift
That too
open coral
Honestly, I have only two "active" function macros - Asylum <me>, and SwiftRaise. All of my others are just cd timers that /echo me a <se> when the spell comes off cd so I know I can use it again.
scarlet hinge
I have not seen any bots in this game in wow u would see them left and right are there any ingame?
open coral
And don't have to keep checking my secondary crossbars in the middle of combat to see if something's up again.
faint flare
There's alot
open coral
There are bots, yes, but the vast majority of them are RMT bots.
little swift
They do weekly banwaves
faint flare
You usually see them in big groups and spamming in cities
open coral
XIV cracks down a lot more regularly than WoW does, and has more consistent tracking criteria.
keen fable
Why, in the DRG opener, do people use the lower cd's first? isn't that counterintuitive? I'm referring to the jumps
Wouldn't you want the longer cd's going off first?
scarlet hinge
Do people multibox?
faint flare
Because you want to get Jumps cooldown rolling for Mirage dive
And Life of the dragon
little swift
Because you want to start stacking eyes for life of the dragon
agile laurel
Think I know the answer to this, but - do boss debuffs like TA (or vuln+ of any kind i guess) affect brd dots/dots reapplied by IJ?
little swift
I'm pretty sure somewhere in the tos multiboxing isn't allowed
zinc orbitBOT
little swift
Yes it does iirc
agile laurel
i know personal buffs affect IJ snap and I expect boss debuffs do but idqk
vapid veldt
yes, but only if they are applied/reapplied during the duration of it
keen fable
I'm confused still
leaden ginkgo
What'd be the fastest way for me to get from lvl 54 to lvl 60?
I'm in the middle of pre-HW MSQ
open coral
As what class @leaden ginkgo ?
eager widget
daily roulettes tbh
open coral
Dungeon spam
eager widget
if you wanna grind it out, then dungeons or POTD
open coral
Do your daily roulettes first, then spam your highest level leveling dungeon.
keen fable
i understand jump because of mirage dive, but between spineshatter and dragonfire, i feel like you'd want to get dragonfire out of the way so it's cd is rolling
but people spineshatter first
open coral
PotD is not recommended for either tank or healer classes.
leaden ginkgo
That makes sense
And when I'm doing roulette
am I doing all of them?
or just levelling roulette?
eager widget
guildhests definitely not, but everything else is a solid contribution
including frontlines roulette
open coral
Yes, just run down through all roulettes, or if you can only do a few, prioritize MSQ roulette, leveling roulette, and Alliance roulette.
agile laurel
isn't it to prevent spineshatter and jump/geir potentially coming off CD at the same time?
open coral
Trials, Normal raid, and 50/60/70 aren't worth as much xp.
scarlet hinge
@leaden ginkgo I think u still need to reach shadowbringer to get the class
little swift
That and you get more uses of spineshatter over the course of a fight than you do for dragonfire
eager widget
nope Luster
open coral
I will make a note that if you're not finished with the 3.0 MSQ, you might want to progress through that anyways, as it will both unlock higher level leveling dungeons, and provide you with a lot of xp on the way.
little swift
Luster thats not true you only need to own shadowbringers
agile laurel
You need to OWN shb but you don't need to reach its content
eager widget
it’s in gridania, just needs lv60 and I think killing 2.0 iirc with shb
agile laurel
HW jobs are the only jobs you need an MSQ gate for, and that's the exception because it was moronic
scarlet hinge
I was gonna say that
open coral
Yeah, they recognize when they make poor choices and never repeat them.
Which is why we only have two MSQ 8-man dungeons.
lyric warren
how do u reach the place above market boards in limsa ?
https://i.imgur.com/2OFBSpz.jpg
little swift
Glitch abuse
leaden ginkgo
I'm not at HW yet, I'm at the point where I'm post-ARR, pre HW and getting 4k exp per quest
little swift
Out of bounds and stuff
leaden ginkgo
and I want to get GNB asap
keen fable
Would it be recommended to get a dragonsight macro?
little swift
Yes a mouseover one is convenient
open coral
@leaden ginkgo In that case getting to 60 with just dungeons is going to be a long slog since your highest level dungeon for leveling will be the level 48 Aurum Vale.
little swift
You're supposed to be only getting 4k per quests
eager widget
if you’re not comfortable party targeting with the F1-F8 keys, a mouseover helps
little swift
Those are post base game quests
leaden ginkgo
@open coral fair enough
open coral
It is strongly recommended that you simply continue through the MSQ until such a point as you get to level 60 organically.
leaden ginkgo
and yes, I'm aware why I'm getting so little exp
open coral
Which you will do long before you hit the end of HW.
scarlet hinge
@leaden ginkgo just spam those msq
leaden ginkgo
aight
paper wyvern
do u still need a lvl 50 to make a dark knight? or just be lvl 30?
scarlet hinge
50
eager widget
fifty and reach ishgard
open coral
You need to reach Ishgard, which requires a minimum level of 50.
scarlet hinge
and heavenswrod
paper wyvern
damm i though they changed it
open coral
No. HW jobs are still locked behind actually getting to HW content.
eager widget
Stormblood and Shadowbringers just needs level progress and ownership of those expansions
agile laurel
wouldn'titbenice.wav
eager widget
HW is the weird one 
agile laurel
yeah
paper wyvern
this is what i found on google
How do I unlock Dark Knight Ffxiv?
Dark Knight requires no base class and begins at level 30, unlocked by completing the quest "Our End" offered by an Ishgardian Citizen at The Pillars (13, 8).
open coral
Yes, the classes unlock as level 30
little swift
!faq jobunlock
zinc orbitBOT
agile laurel
it's one of those 'would be obscenely more difficult to fix than just hold the L and live with it'
little swift
Bruh
agile laurel
like praetorium
calm phoenix
Why isn't my wife selling her Maple Fishing Rod HQ? Those are going for about 1000-1500 but none of those are HQ. Hers is. She crafted it. She listed hers for 2000 because hers is the only HQ on the market
open coral
But you have to get to Ishgard - which requires finishing all of 2.0-2.55
little swift
Theres barely a demand?
open coral
@calm phoenix Because people don't want it?
agile laurel
sometimes when leveling jobs people skip gear levels
just cause you list something doesn't mean anyone will want it
little swift
Just because you craft something doesn't mean people want it
agile laurel
jinx
little swift
Or can't also make it easily
open coral
There are real people on the other end of the MB sales.
You can't force them to buy things they don't want to buy.
little swift
A maple rod is cheap af
paper wyvern
i mean so until lvl 50 im stucked with the main jobs?
open coral
Until you reach 3.0 you're stuck with the main jobs, yes.
paper wyvern
pfff lvl 50 is a long road
open coral
Not as long as you'd expect, tbh
paper wyvern
didnt play ff for 5 years now so i have no clue how to do it fast
scarlet hinge
@paper wyvern its a very enjoyable road u can also pay to skip but it is not recommended
little swift
!market ultros maple fishing rod
open coral
Just follow the 
zinc orbitBOT
998 
x1 [Ultros]
1057 x1 [Ultros]
998
1057
paper wyvern
nahh im not gonna pay to skip whats the point
calm phoenix
I unlocked RDM right after main scenario dungeon. It was a + quest in Ul'Dah. 3.0 seems to be Heavensward timeline if I am not mistaken
little swift
You've also listed it for double the other prices in the history
agile laurel
rdm is stormblood so
open coral
Yes, 3.0 is Heavensward.
little swift
!item maple fishing rod
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calm phoenix
Again, those ones on Ultros are not HQ
open coral
It's a level 8 equip
little swift
You'll outgrow it in 2minutes
open coral
Nobody's going to pay 2k gil for a HQ level 8 equip
little swift
You'd use the class quest rewards anyways
open coral
You're still getting free gear from your job quests at that level.
open ember
I change gear every 10 levels for gatherers
calm phoenix
I will relay the message to her. All I was told from my brother-in-law is that HQ items can be sold for more than their normal ones
open ember
Has worked well for me
paper wyvern
which job u suggest is nice to grind until lvl 50? a dragoon or black mage i was thinking. thats my the only 2 i reached lvl 30
open coral
Yeah, level 70-80 HQ items, not level 8.
open coral
@paper wyvern Personally I prefer doing healers (WHM) just for quick queues, although tanks work too if that's your preference.
scarlet hinge
u should be fine
agile laurel
depends how soul-destroying you find relying on tank/healer jobs for content
paper wyvern
hmm yeahh a paladi 😛
agile laurel
that was what made me switch back to dps queueing for leveling
paper wyvern
and then to make a samurai u need to finish the 3.0 story
open coral
I think you only need level 50 to be SAM or RDM
No story requirement.
Or if there is, it's only to beat 2.0
open coral
And those both start at level 50 themselves.
open ember
Once hit lv50 in any class you can get rdm or/and sam
You must have purchased stormblood tho
calm phoenix
Why does your HP increase so rapidly per level once obtaining level 50?
faint flare
Because lv50 is a massive item level jump
wispy parcel
The numbers just kinda heavily inflate from HW onward
open coral
The internal scaling isn't actually much different 1-50 compared to 50-60, 60-70, or 70-80
And yeah, a lot of it is gear-based.
faint flare
Lv50, 60 and 70 were level caps in the past so they have massive ilvl jumps
wispy parcel
A tank by level 80 has 6 digit HP
open ember
We see changes in server status after maintenance right
I need to make a character on cactuar but it's congested rn
open ember
Cool ty
keen fable
@faint flare do we know for sure that they're opening it up again?
keen fable
ye i know, thats why i was curious as to whether they might actually wait another patch
keen fable
but since it's been a bit, you reckon that they'll change it this time?
faint flare
Likely
thorn mantle
hi, what is the best way to get spiritbond with crafters?
calm phoenix
How was it that my wife was able to craft HQ leather wristgards at TLW level 3 and having only access to basic synthesis? she cannot believe it
faint flare
Because thats rng
twilit arch
you don't have to have 100% HQ to HQ an item
its just 100% assures that the item will be it
so long as you've put a bit of HQ into the item, it can synthesize HQ
faint flare
You see the HQ percent under the quality bar
calm phoenix
It starts at 1% doesn't it? or 0? If it was 1%, she would have had to get the exact number in RNG
twilit arch
you start at 0% unless you have some HQ items
keen fable
moltres, it may be a low chance, but it was probably some chance
calm phoenix
She said that she had one HQ Animal Sinew and she did not know that it used it
raven sage
It actually starts at 1% with all nq items
twilit arch
Hm, couldve sworn it was 0 but i also havent paid attention to it in a long time
raven sage
It's definitely not 0 because I see it every day
calm phoenix
Yeah. She just noticed, it starts her off at 1%
open ember
You should try to use HQ items anyway to increase HQ at the start
twilit arch
if you want to assure HQ item, yes
but if you're crafting to level, you dont actually
open ember
Well I'm talking about in good practice esp with expert crafting later but obv leveling no
But most of the class quests require HQ items
For turn ins
twilit arch
the amount of exp you get from a craft is dictated by how much quality progress you put in
calm phoenix
Level 10 seems to be the first HQ quest. All her level 10 job quests have been requesting one HQ item with the exception of a couple that wait until 15
leaden ginkgo
hello all, i am on hunt for relic weapon ^ ^ today i got my thyrus. but i am still wondering how i can upgrade it to zenith? i read online yes, but its a little confusing to me
Thavnairian Mist x3 im not sure how to get
twilit arch
you buy them with poetics from auriana in mor dhona
forest junco
does anyone knows how to fix this?
leaden ginkgo
i really want shivas diamond cane whm
how i can get? :c
I thought this was relic
leaden ginkgo
Shiva Expert dungeon ?
open ember
Was it diamond dust or diamond tear
twilit arch
diamond dust
open ember
Yes Shiva extreme
twilit arch
tear is crafting material
leaden ginkgo
i dont think ive unlocked a shiva ? ^ ^
open ember
Are you level 50
leaden ginkgo
im lvl 80
twilit arch
what's your msq?
calm phoenix
Is it true that crafting used to be much more difficult? You needed to know what was required to make a certain item, it did not list them like they do today and even then yoiu may get something else? Is that true? I heard a few people say that
open ember
Talk to Urianger to unlock Shiva EX
leaden ginkgo
i finished MSQ
open ember
I don't remember what the quest was called
leaden ginkgo
ok i try
twilit arch
You mean you've completed up to all of shadowbringers/
faint flare
Drop dead shiva
open ember
Then you can unlock Shiva EX and farm her easily for the cane
twilit arch
ok then do what estelle said and talk to urianger in the waking sands for the quest "drop dead shiva"
jaunty thunder
hi guys what does Trick Attack window mean?
faint flare
When a Ninjas Trick attack is on the boss
leaden ginkgo
wow thx so much :3
open ember
Also
faint flare
!action Trick attack
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open ember
Unlock all the other EXs as well
jaunty thunder
is it after the cast?
faint flare
Yes, for 15s the boss takes 5% more damage
open ember
@calm phoenix leveling crafters was ass back in the day
It is significantly easier to level up crafters now
iirc they've changed quite a bit of skills
jaunty thunder
do you use Kassatsu when you finish getting the Ninjutsu up
open ember
I mean just recently they got rip of Appraisal I believe
leaden ginkgo
im sorry but does the cane drop in the dungeon? ^ ^
jaunty thunder
or it doesnt really matter?
leaden ginkgo
ohh 😄
jaunty thunder
wait nvm you must activate kassatsu first and then cast your ninjutsu
leaden ginkgo
and it drops there _
faint flare
You can use Kassatsu pre emptivally before Trixk like as the buff lasts abit
vapid veldt
kassatsu between suiton and TA
faint flare
Then drop the kassatsu Ninjutsu u der it
jaunty thunder
ahh ok
faint flare
!faq ninopener
zinc orbitBOT
faint flare
See example here
halcyon glen
Yes, the True Ice Cane drops in Shiva Extreme
faint flare
Its free
As you're hiding
To reset mudras
If the tank pulls the boss into it, its free real estate
halcyon glen
If not, cry
open ember
@leaden ginkgo
jaunty thunder
why is it free ?
faint flare
If not then you haven't lost anything
Because you're hiding to reset mudras
You havr 1 mudra charge left after huton
So you drop it and hide and you're still at 2 charges
After the hide
So its free
halcyon glen
Because it’s pre-pull there’s zero opportunity cost because you have nothing better to do
zinc orbitBOT
halcyon glen
Like if you have, say, a Dancer in your party who needs 15 seconds to dance before each pull starts anyway or their rotation becomes sad, might as well use the time doing something potentially useful instead of /beesknees
open ember
Or like pre pulling a card for AST
So by the time the tank pulls you'll have draw ready to draw another card
Pre pulling is incredibly useful and needed in savage
vapid veldt
love when a wipe happens and everyone needs to wait 45s for prepull shenanigans
open ember
Haha
vapid veldt
i'm very thankful that cds reset on wipe
crimson wind
Remember waiting for hallowed cooldown prepull?
@faint flare no
faint flare
Until Crwator
open ember
Good lord
faint flare
Creator was when they added Cd resets
Midas and gordias and everything before creator didn't reset cooldowns until Creator was added
leaden ginkgo
i just did shiva extreme but no drop? :c only 1 person got ice tear
open ember
@leaden ginkgo unsync it bb
leaden ginkgo
hard is same as extreme ?\
open ember
And then keep running it
halcyon glen
Oh no
twilit arch
ice tear sounds like normal mode
open ember
And no you have to do EX
halcyon glen
You did hard
faint flare
Drop dead shiva
leaden ginkgo
im so blonde xD
halcyon glen
You’re looking for Ahk Afah Ampithetre (Extreme)
leaden ginkgo
thanxx
open ember
I linked it earlier
open ember
Yeah no don't try to sync it
leaden ginkgo
what does unsync it mean
leaden ginkgo
thanks
sometimes i try to reado nline but its hard for me to understand
so thx for ur help
Any tips for a new tank?
crimson wind
Are there any cheese spots for thunderstorm in E5S?
wispy parcel
Keep doing your aoe rotation for pulls until there is only 2 mobs left
leaden ginkgo
Really?
wispy parcel
Then just single target
leaden ginkgo
Gunblade only has the two though
wispy parcel
Yup thats how you tank im dungeons
leaden ginkgo
I've done a few low level content but no exp with tankbusters or tank switching
vapid veldt
Are there any cheese spots for thunderstorm in E5S?
@crimson wind
crimson wind
ty
leaden ginkgo
omg shiva extreme is solo? XD
wispy parcel
Yea tanking in dungeons is very simple, just make sure to pop a mitigatiom ability if you pull 2 or more groups of mobs
leaden ginkgo
Right now I just pop all my cds and use aoe to pull aggro, and use my ranged attack to initiate
open ember
You can do it with 8 people but if you're doing it for weapons you need to unsync it yourself and go solo
leaden ginkgo
I guess my question is more for complex tank stuff
vapid veldt
Right now I just pop all my cds and use aoe to pull aggro, and use my ranged attack to initiate
@leaden ginkgo definitely don't stack all your defensive cds
ration them out
leaden ginkgo
I mean I barely know what they do
crimson wind
Tooltips?
wispy parcel
Tanks arent all that complex. Pretty much just keep doing your combo rotation to keep aggro
leaden ginkgo
I mean yes but in battle
leaden ginkgo
It's easy to forget what does what
crimson wind
Read your tooltips.
fresh lodge
Study the tooltips
They're really simple
Usually its just "reduce damage by 20%", ect
leaden ginkgo
Anyway, before I stopped playing, peeps used mt and ot
fresh lodge
Plus a lot of skills are shared among the tanks and just called something else
leaden ginkgo
Is that still the case?
open ember
In 8 man content yes
wispy parcel
Yea it still is
fresh lodge
Yes
leaden ginkgo
Yeah I've been getting a feel for their effects gradually
question if i can do an extreme solo multiple times a day for loot? ^ ^
open ember
Mt means main tank and ot means off tank
leaden ginkgo
Yea I know that part
faint flare
MT is the tank taking the boss, OT is the other
fresh lodge
Its just whoever is tanking currently and who isn't
open ember
@leaden ginkgo infinite number of times. No limit
faint flare
You swap regularly
leaden ginkgo
oh wow nice 😄
calm phoenix
My wife wants to know if "inner quiet" is useless. It seems to only make it a worse chance of HQ for her she says
fresh lodge
@leaden ginkgo yes
leaden ginkgo
Inner quiet is good iirc
twilit arch
Inner Quiet is not useless
fresh lodge
Inner Quiet is god tier
twilit arch
!action Inner Quiet
open ember
Inner Quiet is incredibly useless
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fresh lodge
There is no reason to not use it
faint flare
Inmer quiet is one of the best skills
open ember
You need to stack control
faint flare
Its free control which can potentially mean you dont need a extra touch
Thus potentially saving CP
Especially if you're lucky with Hasty touches
fresh lodge
You get more quality per touch, which ends up saving you durability
leaden ginkgo
Okay question- is GNB Rough Divide good? I an unsure of how good it is
leaden ginkgo
Is it just an aoe or
twilit arch
literally every rotation at end game is going to make use of inner quiet/reflect
open ember
That's your gap closer so yes
open ember
No
faint flare
Not asap
fresh lodge
NO
wispy parcel
Dear lord no
open ember
Only when you're boutta die
fresh lodge
It puts you to 1 hp
leaden ginkgo
Lmao I'm kidding guya
vapid veldt
cursed
leaden ginkgo
Guys
faint flare
You plan out your defensive cooldown rotations
leaden ginkgo
I've seen the memes
wispy parcel
Its an oh shit button
open ember
Making healers panic everywhere
crimson wind
Superbolide is unironically the second best tank invuln
wispy parcel
It is
crimson wind
If used properly
fresh lodge
You only use it to cheese mechanics or if you're going to die anyways
leaden ginkgo
So my question is now about enmity. Obviously hitting fools will aggro them but do I have to tag all mobs or
faint flare
Yes
fresh lodge
Yes
wispy parcel
Yea
crimson wind
Yes.
leaden ginkgo
I noticed some would start on me anyway
vapid veldt
make sure you don't see any green triangles on your enmity list
leaden ginkgo
Okay
faint flare
Everything should be hitting you
fresh lodge
You have to establish aggro on everything
vapid veldt
red squares = good
leaden ginkgo
Yeah I know that part but wasn't sure about enmity formula
faint flare
If you dont hit them. Then you dont have aggro on them
open ember
Dragging them together makes it easier for dps to aoe them and kill them
leaden ginkgo
Okay just been lucky
fresh lodge
Just keep tank stance on and spam aoe
wispy parcel
Its why just aoeing 90% of the time is the strat
open ember
Yeah that's what you're supposed to do
open ember
Yeah yeah
faint flare
You aoe at 2+ targets
crimson wind
Don't get used to relying on your healers
leaden ginkgo
Isn't the dps better though?
faint flare
No
crimson wind
Especially if the healer is good
glossy flare
The tank AoE skills surpass the single target combo at 2+ targets
vapid veldt
what's st
leaden ginkgo
I've used superbolide successfully here and there
wispy parcel
Single target
leaden ginkgo
I see
faint flare
Plus generates cartridges faster with aoe
leaden ginkgo
Yeah I did notice that
glossy flare
Of course it takes longer till the first mob dies but ultimately it will go faster overall
open rivet
superbolide,
then disable superbolide 
leaden ginkgo
But st does have that shield buff
glossy flare
Doesn't matter
faint flare
Its insignificant
glossy flare
you have plenty of defensive CDs to use
leaden ginkgo
Hmm
open ember
Invuln should only be used when you're gonna die or feel like you're gonna die
leaden ginkgo
Yeah ik
leaden ginkgo
Oh
wispy parcel
Or if youre doing a big w2w pull
leaden ginkgo
I'm at that weird juncture of 60+ skills start overlapping
glossy flare
Brutal Shell effect is nice for the self heal and the very small shield but it won't be much in the long run
vapid veldt
oh well the single target cartridge combo is good up to 4 targets
open ember
Brutal shell is just small bonus
fresh lodge
I'd be very careful using Superbolide during a big pull
open ember
Also use your GNB regen
glossy flare
use it on cd in fact
leaden ginkgo
Hmm
glossy flare
Aurora is great
fresh lodge
There is a micro delay between being put at 1hp and becoming invuln
leaden ginkgo
I guess I'll restructure my crossbar then
halcyon glen
I thought they fixed that
fresh lodge
Oh?
halcyon glen
sigh
glossy flare
I feel you 😄
leaden ginkgo
So if I have savage claw and talon available with cartridges, use that for ST?
wispy parcel
Yup I died once using hallowed ground cause of the delay
open ember
Same Sora
glossy flare
Yeah, all of the invuln skills have that
wispy parcel
glossy flare
this split second to do the animation before the effect kicks in
Really annoying sometimes
calm phoenix
My wife crafted better gear than she is wearing for Lancer but the game tells her that she is already wearing the recommended gear despite the fact that the ones she crafted has better stats. Does anybody know what the problem could be?
glossy flare
Long story short, better go go invul at like 15% hp
leaden ginkgo
Level restriction
glossy flare
maybe even 20
leaden ginkgo
Or maybe the game is calculating different stats?
fresh lodge
Whats the main stats?
glossy flare
Yeah, are you sure it is actually better gear?
fresh lodge
Pretty sure recommend gear goes off armour value and main stat
glossy flare
Ilvl
calm phoenix
The items she crafted are not in her armory chest. They paced them in her inventory. Maybe that is why it is saying that?
glossy flare
not armor value
faint flare
Yes
open ember
Its in your inventory
fresh lodge
Yeah that would be why
twilit arch
recommend only pulls from armoury chest
open ember
If its crafted
faint flare
Recommend only pulls from armoury
open ember
Go into inventory and right click and move to armory chest
And then press recommend gear
Ive made that mistake one too many times too
Or square on controller
calm phoenix
She sees what the problem is. It was calculating stats based on leatherworker and not her lancer stats. Those items are actually worse than her current lancer gear
leaden ginkgo
!action Gnashing Fang
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crimson wind
When do you get the squats emote from squadrons
leaden ginkgo
Savage Claw says it has a combo with GF, but GF says nothing about it?
gritty oracle
In faux hollows, should I go for the coffer/giftbox, or fish for commander instead?
faint flare
Gnashing is the start of the combo
glossy flare
the first skill in any combo never references the other skills
leaden ginkgo
Oh
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leaden ginkgo
So to use Savage Claw at all I open with GF?
crimson wind
yes
glossy flare
Yes, it's essentially a seperate combo
for which you need to spend a cartridge to go into it
open ember
Wait till you get Continuation
leaden ginkgo
Yeah
open ember
Its so Fun
glossy flare
Whenever you can go for the cartridge combo, do it
leaden ginkgo
Yeah def
glossy flare
At least until you really get into lining up things with No Mercy
open ember
Always be using cartridges
glossy flare
Alternatively you can always spend them on Burst Strike or Later Demon Circle
open ember
I had a gnb that would never use any cartridge skills
leaden ginkgo
I've only been using the first two cart skills
glossy flare
Err Fated Circle I mean
open ember
I wanted to die
crimson wind
Don't use burst strike until you hit 2 cartridges
leaden ginkgo
Wot
crimson wind
save cartridges for an optimal No Mercy window
But never, never never never waste a cartridge
glossy flare
!action no mercy
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crimson wind
Use Gnashing asap for minimal drift
agile laurel
my rule of thumb is don't spend if you won't overcap and gnashing has ~10sec cd
glossy flare
For optimal play you try to fit all your heavy hitting abilities, including dots, into the duration of no mercy
crimson wind
You don't brutal if you have 2 cartridges
fresh lodge
You want to fit all your damaging skills while under No Mercy
glossy flare
Which includes the cartridge combo, danger/blasting zone and as much burst strikes as you can do
Because all of those hit like a truck
crimson wind
Also Rough Divide should be used twice in No Mercy
leaden ginkgo
Jeez there's a lot
glossy flare
Yes, that's why you weave it
open ember
GNB is. Not a beginner friendly tank I'd argue
crimson wind
I would say it's beginner friendly
glossy flare
It's very fast paced in that burst window, but honestly all tanks kinda have a similar thing
crimson wind
If you're a dps
fresh lodge
GNB is the worst tank to start as
fresh lodge
WAR or PLD would be a better starting off point
open ember
PLD & WAR are def more beginner friendly yes
queen flame
How does autoattacking work in this game? Do you automatically start attacking when you use an ability?
open ember
I always advise against GNB as a first tank
leaden ginkgo
Are there other hidden job skills or are they all listed?
wispy parcel
You dont autoattack past level 10 in this game
leaden ginkgo
Someone said final demon circle
fresh lodge
All listed
queen flame
You dont autoattack past level 10 in this game
@wispy parcel wat
wispy parcel
Autoattacking is not a thing you should be doing in this game
fresh lodge
You dont autoattack past level 10 in this game
@wispy parcel That is so incorrect
agile laurel
Clarification. You don't give a damn about autoattacking
fresh lodge
No hold up
queen flame
BUt it's more dps?
fresh lodge
You should always be auto attacking
faint flare
You automatically auto attack when you're close
agile laurel
it's just a thing that happens
queen flame
Ok, so nobody knows?
faint flare
And not casting anything
glossy flare
Auto attacks happen, as the name suggests, automatically on a set interval when you are in combat
faint flare
You always auto attack
glossy flare
So there is no need to worry about them
faint flare
It just happena
leaden ginkgo
You could say it happens...automatically
open ember
Auto attacking can be bad like in the final shb trial but. Autoattacking should not "never" happen
scenic whale
question
how long does it take for website items to be delivered?
fresh lodge
If you can use a weapon skill against the boss you can auto attack it
agile laurel
it varies
fresh lodge
Up to 24 hours
faint flare
Using a skill on a mob starts you auto attacking that thing
scenic whale
kk
queen flame
So as long as I'm in combat, and I have a target, my character will automatically attack it?
faint flare
You can see if you're autoing a mob as they have a rotating arrow under their health ans above the target arrow
fresh lodge
If you've engaged it yes
scenic whale
queen flame
I'm coming from wow where we have auto attack macros (i know)
You can see if you're autoing a mob as they have a rotating arrow under their health ans above the target arrow
@faint flare ok, this is actually very helpful, i'll keep an eye for this
wispy parcel
You can also just double tap the target in question
faint flare
As long as you're in range and not casting a spell, you auto attack every 3s
open ember
I wouldn't think about auto attack too hard
simple pine
kholusia is where i used to mine zonureskin maps, but now it only has gliderskin maps, does it rotate?
leaden ginkgo
Do I use rough divide to initiate or lightning shot?
faint flare
Lightning
leaden ginkgo
Ok
faint flare
Rough divides are used under No mercy
strange coral
No, you can get either. It's RNG, just try other nodes @simple pine
glossy flare
Rough Divide is still used as a gap closer for when the boss forces you away so you can get back in quickly
But generally what Vinyl said
crimson wind
A bit late, but this is my best E6S run on GNB. Auto attacking is very very important
glossy flare
Not relevant, but nice parse 😄
crimson wind
yeah i know it's a bit late :/
glossy flare
No I meant my compliment was not relevant
crimson wind
Just wanted to add on the importance of auto attacks
glossy flare
But patting people on the back is nice o/
strange coral
@leaden ginkgo Here is a guide through all of the relic quests https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/wiki/Zenith_Relic_Weapons/Quest
leaden ginkgo
but i want eureka :3
crimson wind
Eureka and Zodiac weapons are suffering
glossy flare
Those are Stormblood relics
glossy flare
Each expansion has its own relic weapon
leaden ginkgo
Is Eureka easy for me to get
glossy flare
You do not have to do the ARR relic questline for the Eureka one
crimson wind
no
strange coral
Eureka stuff is separate from ARR's relics. Those quests start in Rhaglr's Reach
glossy flare
Eureka is just grindy, not difficult
upper mortar
was just about to ask, is there a comphensive guide for Eureka, i know literally nothing about it
leaden ginkgo
I think I have my rotation set up, do I want to use low blow at all times or for aoe attacks
crimson wind
Eureka is only difficult if you want a full Elemental +2 set and a physeos weapon
queen flame
A bit late, but this is my best E6S run on GNB. Auto attacking is very very important
@crimson wind Is this showing auto attacking being the most important contributor to dps?
crimson wind
yes
wraith jay
Do FFXIV RAF codes only work if the person you're recruiting is in the same data center as you?
glossy flare
I think I have my rotation set up, do I want to use low blow at all times or for aoe attacks
@leaden ginkgo Only for templates that are actually annoying enough to warrant it
crimson wind
it won't be as important on a dps
leaden ginkgo
oh i just want it for the look ^ ^
glossy flare
Bosses are generally immune anyway
crimson wind
but still very important
leaden ginkgo
I've done a few surprise stuns but I know bosses get more immune quickly
If not outright immune
glossy flare
low blow doesn't deal any damage, so it's not that important. But if it saves the DPS from moving then that is good for everyone
Especially for the casty people
damn black mages
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faint flare
Mobs can be resistant to stun
strange coral
@wraith jay Datacenter doesn't matter for RAF. You can recruit before they've even made a character.
faint flare
But not interject
leaden ginkgo
So it's a near universal interrupt
leaden ginkgo
Yeah
faint flare
But interject can only be used on specific skills
wraith jay
@strange coral ok thank you
glossy flare
It's not universal
glossy flare
it only works on specific abilities
leaden ginkgo
Uhoh
crimson wind
Low Blow barely works in like a quarter of the games content
halcyon glen
hint: if a move can be interjected, you should probably interject
halcyon glen
like, 90% of the time it means Bad Stuff
leaden ginkgo
That came out in 2.x?
faint flare
Go into eureka
crimson wind
hint: if a move can be interjected, you should probably interject
@halcyon glen can be life or death in certain content
strange coral
Talk to the guy at Pier 1 to enter Eureka
leaden ginkgo
When does that content start?
Yes i talk to the guy at pier 1 but i dont have quest with him now i finish it
leaden ginkgo
is it eureka anemos
strange coral
Some ARR dungeon bosses have interruptables, although some are super quick. It starts to really matter much later.
leaden ginkgo
Okay I'll start paying more attention then
open ember
coughs Puppet's Bunker mobs
glossy flare
It's never really a thing in casual content like dungeons and most normal mode trials, even most normal mode raids are not reliant on you interrupting things, even though you do encounter it
urban glen
A newbie question here - I just accepted a quest called Eye of the Dragon, for the Dragoon class, so how in seven hells am I supposed to get to Ishgard, which is Empire if i've never been there before?
leaden ginkgo
So should I bother at all with keen edge rotation?
keen fable
against ||number xxiv|| when he spawns pillars, do you stand in them one person each
in ||castrum abania||
faint flare
Yes
open ember
@keen fable yes
faint flare
Or they explode
faint flare
Those pillars always mean you need at least 1 person in it
open ember
In all contents, always one person in each pillar
glossy flare
A newbie question here - I just accepted a quest called Eye of the Dragon, for the Dragoon class, so how in seven hells am I supposed to get to Ishgard, which is Empire if i've never been there before?
@urban glen Just follow the questmarkers?
I'm not sure what your problem is 🤔
open ember
It can be life and death in later content
leaden ginkgo
I think he might not have unlocked ishgard maybe?
urban glen
I can't teleport there is what my problem @glossy flare
leaden ginkgo
Msq unlocks it iirx
wispy parcel
Ishgard is Heavensward content
strange coral
@urban glen Eye of the Dragon asks you to go to Coerthas Central Highlands, not Ishgard. It's an ARR area so you should be able to get to it.
open ember
Arent the lv50+ quests in Camp Dragonhead?
glossy flare
Yeah it's just a map as any other, just gotta figure out where to go
urban glen
How do I get there then?
glossy flare
see the arrows at the bottom of the map?
halcyon glen
It's northwest from North Shroud
glossy flare
Click on them
open ember
Fly south from Camp Dragonhead
urban glen
wait, is Gridania actually connected to this location? Those arrows pointing to The Black Shroud?
glossy flare
Yes
halcyon glen
yep!
glossy flare
That's what I'm trying to tell you 😄
halcyon glen
Well, the Shroud at least is. Not Gridania itseldf
urban glen
oh damn, I am just as blind as a bat!
halcyon glen
Take Fallgourd Float's teleport
urban glen
sorry for the hustle
open ember
Make sure you attune to Aetheryte when you reach Camp Dragonhead
urban glen
yeah, I sure will!
open ember
That's the only Aetheryte in that WHOLE map
glossy flare
that sounds like this annoyed you
strange coral
I think you have to have been there at least once first? Been ages since I used chocobo porter
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halcyon glen
yes
halcyon glen
no
urban glen
I got my own Chokobo now, I don't need no porters😤
calm phoenix
Why does my one retainer always bring back a bad item and the other a really good item despite the fact that they are both the same class, level, and have the same ilv? It is always the one who finds a petty item
glossy flare
RNG
open ember
Regardless you can get there by ground
open ember
@halcyon glen then nvrm
I didn't know that
Its been so long since I did ARR
I forgot you go there THAT early
glossy flare
Okay I'm gonna say this once now @calm phoenix This game has rng elements and you keep complaining about them or asking why they act the way they act. They. Are. Random.
halcyon glen
and they haven't visited Coerthas in the main story yet - you do that around 35-40
glossy flare
No way to predict them
odd halo
Hey guys what does this grey wing like icon next to location name mean?
open ember
You're right
glossy flare
Hey guys what does this grey wing like icon next to location name mean?
@odd halo Means you can't fly there yet
faint flare
Its to show if you have flight or not