manic flare
@faint flare so this is why the bosses in praetorium are so easy
#questions-and-help
leaden ginkgo
i am at the airship landing in kugane, but cant find the NPC that takes me to prima vista tiring room.. what i do? :c
agile laurel
yes, you need to be inside the building
open ember
Talk to them
open ember
It'll prompt you with the "enter the tiring room?" Or something like that
open ember
There's no npc next the desks? Only that npc?
open ember
What is the quest as you to do?
leaden ginkgo
what is that ?
open ember
Did you talk to Keiten in the markets
faint flare
The one for City of lost angels
open ember
That's how to start it
faint flare
That thing
open ember
Follow the quest line
faint flare
That starts the quest line for it
open ember
And you're in post patch SB right?
I mean you enter the airship room but you can't enter the tiring room
Without starting the Ivalice raids
For the coordinates
tardy bay
Does it make more sense to use the party finder or just enter palace of the dead normally?
agile laurel
just enter normally
unless it's for the challenge floors and you're not actually trying to solo
gusty storm
When does Summoner become more fleshed out
tardy bay
I don't know if ninja can solo potd
gusty storm
57
faint flare
Once you get dwt you start your cycles
gusty storm
Ok
agile laurel
yeah dwt helps the rotation loop a bit
bahamut REALLY does
summoner is a job that kinda just sits there and spams ruin 3 sometimes
faint flare
Thats the filler for you
leaden ginkgo
thank u guys
agile laurel
summoner is 'have I done all the things required for me to go into next phase at the correct time'
open ember
Np Shazi
faint flare
Prior to dreadwyrm and bahamut, you only have the filler phase of the cycle
glossy flare
It gets really fun at 70 when you can summon bahamut
open ember
Most jobs are better at lv70
glossy flare
all the phoenix stuff is just icing on the cake
But I agree, SMN is a bit bland pre 70
faint flare
Dreadwyrm is the first pick of the cycles to start practicing dot cycles, then bahamut adds into the burst cycle
gusty storm
Okay then what level do GNB and SAM start feeling good, no need for a detailed answer this time
agile laurel
yeah pre 70 smn is just kinda dot mage
faint flare
Gnb feels good after continuation, kinda bland prior
agile laurel
you'll see a few people say that SB adding bahamut made summoner 'actually a summoner'
faint flare
SAMs fine after 62 with extra kenki
open ember
remembers the smn the other day in Gubal who didn't even spread or use dots in mobs I wanted to die
agile laurel
yeah continuation is 70% of the reason gnb has its rep as holy-fuck-buttons
faint flare
The ammo combo doesn't have the same punch without it
agile laurel
why didn't they call it renzokuken man
faint flare
think it is in other languages
open ember
Maybe in lv90 gnb they will
agile laurel
oh?
faint flare
Think in JP its still labelled Renzokuken
Idk
Think i saw something on it awhile ago
granite swan
How soloable are the first 2-3 bahamuts?
faint flare
Very
leaden ginkgo
hey sorry for all questions again, but i did Dramatis Personae quest, and now i unlock all dungeons. but now what ?
faint flare
Its only turn 9 thats the issue
leaden ginkgo
cant find online so this is my goto.. thx
granite swan
Ah
agile laurel
i think the only point coils gets spicy is t8
agile laurel
nael. t9
faint flare
Turn 9
open ember
@leaden ginkgo Did you unlock Rabanastre?
glossy flare
yeah
faint flare
Even she is
faint flare
But more finnicky
ionic dome
I have a quick question because I am confused on the expansions
agile laurel
@leaden ginkgo if you've completed Orbonne Monastery and finished all the followup quests, go find Keiten in the markets again to start the relic weapon questline
ionic dome
I just finished what I presumed to be the end of a realm reborn, now I am on the questline with yagiri and the refugees from Doma
open ember
Emu they just started the quest line
ionic dome
what part of the game is this?
faint flare
Post arr
ionic dome
dammmmn how long is it
agile laurel
yeah i know, i was just stating facts
faint flare
80 quests
open ember
Ye ye
faint flare
- crystal tower and hard mode primals
So probably like 90 or so
For everything required
ionic dome
i finished the crystal tower stuff
faint flare
Then you got that out of the way
ionic dome
twas fun I enjoyed that
leaden ginkgo
@leaden ginkgo if you've completed Orbonne Monastery and finished all the followup quests, go find Keiten in the markets again to start the relic weapon questline
@agile laurel i cant find orbonne monastery in my duties
faint flare
Do rabanstre
leaden ginkgo
but what quest line o_O i have not gotten any new quest
open ember
A City Fallen is the second quest
In the Ivalice quest line
In the line I gave you, it says "follow up quests"
Find those quests and keep going
leaden ginkgo
no i havent o.o
open ember
The quest you want is at the end of all the Stormblood alliance raids
leaden ginkgo
i just talked to guy in kugane and got 6 new dungeons but none of those
open ember
What
open ember
Uhh
agile laurel
you're absolutely doing the wrong thing then
open ember
You should only be getting one raid rn
leaden ginkgo
well it was definitely much more than one
open ember
And that's The Royal City of Rabanastre
leaden ginkgo
im so confused sry
open ember
Its ok but hun I think you did the wrong quest
leaden ginkgo
So i did Dramatis personae quest, that got me many new dungeons
little swift
Seemed you did some other quests
agile laurel
and then you need to complete that to unlock the next 2 raids
little swift
Maybe like speaking to the wandering minstrel
ionic dome
does anyone have a simple easy to understand guide on astrologins and their rotation? It confuses the hell outta me
leaden ginkgo
thanks estelle ❤️
open ember
Talk to him
leaden ginkgo
tysm :3
open ember
Np bb
little swift
!faq astguide
zinc orbitBOT
ionic dome
ty!!
elder meteor
does Allagan Leather and Allagan Silk drop from random trash in bahamut raids or from bosses?
faint flare
Boss coffers
elder meteor
oh ok. so I can get those materials unsynced?
open ember
You should be able to
Keep in mind some Bahamut raids can't be solo-able unsync
Its better to unsync it with others
twilit arch
they can all be solo'd
elder meteor
yeah I have some friends who want to do it too
little swift
Every floor is clearable solo but you have to 4head like 1 fight
elder meteor
apparently I need binding coils 1, 2, 4, or 5 for allagan leather and silk
faint flare
Those are easy
elder meteor
any idea which is fastest and/or has more stuff to drop the materials?
little swift
5 can be the quickest since its just the bossfight more or less
leaden ginkgo
hi im just new, any tips?
faint flare
!faq newplayertips
zinc orbitBOT
leaden ginkgo
tnx
obsidian patio
Turn 8 can be troublesome since it’s super dependent on bursting the boss before mindjack happens
elder meteor
cool I'll give 5 a shot. hopefully can get some of this junk
this new set I crafted for 78 is hideous lol
open ember
Are you making something?
elder meteor
yeah
open ember
Oh okay
fallow juniper
Hyperelectricity weather in Azys Lla only lasts 5 mins I’ve read. After the weather is gone and the FATE wasnt found in those 5 mins, will it still be up?
eager widget
9 is weird for solo, but it’s def doable
just don’t eat wall with the tower knockback in Pt2 and you’re fine
obsidian patio
@fallow juniper yes
The weather is basically only there for Proto-Ultima to fly around and be pretty while shooting lasers as the precursor to the fate spawning
fallow juniper
I see so those were the lasers I saw, thanks for confirming
Works the same way as Odin? Can spawn anywhere so scour entire map?
obsidian patio
Pre-set spawn points, but yeah.
fallow juniper
3 spawn points is that right?
eager widget
I think PO only has one spawn, a floating island to the far east?
fallow juniper
Looked at the 3 I could find on consolegameswiki and couldnt find
Azys Lla - (x6,y20),(x27,y5),(x38,y18)
Probably expired by now
eager widget
ah I was thinking of 38,18; always seen it there
fringe meadow
Hey guys - hope I can find some good advice here.
So, I‘m currently free to play, meaning I have no access to the market, and I just hit the 300.000 Gil cap.
What’s the smartest thing to do with my current Gil, so anything I earn beyond that won’t be eaten by the abyss?
fringe meadow
(Lvl 50 BLM, lvl 40 Weaver, everything else is 30ish)
Like, the material for crafting and so on?
empty pecan
Can i just keep farming World of Darkness for armour drops or am i limited at all?
eager widget
all the old 24mans have no loot restriction, so you’re fine
little swift
No limit
eager widget
everything up to the very recent one is a free for all
empty pecan
Okay sweet. Really want that tank gear.
eager widget
(assuming you’re the proper job)
and yeah @dusky nest , stuff like mats or gear for your jobs that you’re leveling on the side
dusky nest
fringe meadow
You missed 300 😄
eager widget
oh shit MY BAD 
fringe meadow
But thank you for that. Is there anything else you can think of? Something more beneficial in the long run?
Because my inventory is quite packed and I don’t want to have tons of materials in there I MIGHT use some day
eager widget
nothing in particular because the game provides through the main story fairly well, and you can’t use the marketboard yet to buy allagan pieces to convert your gil
little swift
Nah Its not worth to hoard
You can alwaysget that stuff back
Especially low level stuff
Just go massacre done innocent woodland creatures
fringe meadow
Also, there propably is no other way to convert Gil without a major loss, huh?
And there propably is no semi cool mount for 300.000, I guess? 😄
fringe meadow
I think I don’t have Access to the traders yet
calm phoenix
If I do not log out in a sanctuary, do I lose all my unused rest XP? The power went out during Bismark Extreme and I was out and about in Sea of Clouds
eager widget
only time you’ll ever lose it is by consuming it from mob kills
since many sources of exp don’t use it
twilit arch
or crafting or gathering
elder meteor
for random 430 crafting gear, do you slot in cp, control, craftsmanship, or some of all?
stone sedge
Hello I’m new to the game, I have the free to play edition and was just wondering how good this edition is and how far I can get with it, for example is the game playable or is it like free WoW where u can barely do anything, any help would be really appreciated 🙂
eager widget
you want to try and cap CP first, then Control or Craftsman depending on what you need
faint flare
cp to cap then meld Craftsmanship/control to minimum requirements
obsidian patio
Free trial gives you access to the entire base game and first expansion
faint flare
For crafting gear in general
elder meteor
oh so like cap cp on all items?
elder meteor
guess that's why the cp materia cost more haha
obsidian patio
Most of the restrictions are social stuff like player guilds and trading
faint flare
You cant make use of your stats without cp
obsidian patio
!faq freetrial
zinc orbitBOT
eager widget
and yeah free trial is the full base game and first expansion
leaden ginkgo
hey does anyone know how to find the crystal tower quests if you initially declined the outlandish man's quest?
I can't find him in mor dhona
elder meteor
should I cap cp even on the items that are like 7/9 cp base? like I'd be taking up a whole materia slot for 2 cp
eager widget
there’s no quest called Legacy of Allag in that zone, KH?
obsidian patio
Sounds like you’ve done the first quest if he’s not there
faint flare
You usually cap those with overmelds
stone sedge
So I can do everything with free trial but it takes away a lot of the social features
faint flare
With cheap low tier materia
elder meteor
ok cool will do
leaden ginkgo
@obsidian patio hmm I have? I don't remember doing it? where can I find the follow up?
wooden whale
Hi guys, i am new too and currently playing with free trial.
I've been wondering what i have to buy to continue playing the game.
Like i know there is a subscription to pay, but there are also expansions to buy, and on steam i found FFXIV at the price of 10 dollars, and my brain is going to explode, what do i buy exactly.
remote lintel
everything up the the end of heavensward
you need to buy the base game and shadowbringers
obsidian patio
@leaden ginkgo assuming you only did the first quest the next one is at saint coinach’s find
eager widget
@leaden ginkgo
fringe meadow
I think there is a pack with all expansions + 30 days free for free. In Europe it costs like 50€
leaden ginkgo
@eager widget ye he's not in mor dhona
remote lintel
the base game is 20$ on steam @wooden whale
eager widget
you’re probably on Sanding it Down then, I’d guess
leaden ginkgo
@eager widget it says he's still in mor dhona there tho?
fringe meadow
So back to the beast tribe mounts. Does it matter which beast tribe I unlock? Which one is the most efficient and quick to get, so I can spend my Gil?
eager widget
do you happen to have any of those quests active in your Journal?
remote lintel
you don't buy beast tribe stuff with gil
wooden whale
oh sorry i meant 10 euros @remote lintel
remote lintel
@wooden whale yes that should be it
leaden ginkgo
I also remember declining the crystal mission because I wanted to get the msq stuff done
remote lintel
or you can buy the complete edition which includes everything in 1 package
leaden ginkgo
I will check saint conach's find
wooden whale
where do i buy complete edition
remote lintel
it should be on that same page if you scroll down
elder meteor
is there any stat that affects the chance of an overmeld to succeed?
faint flare
No
eager widget
nope 
faint flare
They're static
elder meteor
ah lame
faint flare
Based on the slot and materia tier
wooden whale
ok so, let's suppose i buy the base game, but i dont buy subscription, am i still able to play, what does happen
eager widget
it’ll scale up with weaker materia, but that’s your call
remote lintel
no you can't play without a sub
faint flare
You get 30days free
obsidian patio
Once the free sub runs you can’t play at all
faint flare
When you buy
After that you need to sub
Otherwise you're locked out
You cant revert back to trial on the account ever
eager widget
ye
remote lintel
yes your free trial stuff carries over
eager widget
👍
untold sand
if i have stuff like the steam version of the ffxiv client? and want the web version do i have to rebuy standard and expansions there too?
untold sand
omg why e.e
remote lintel
because licensing
eager widget
it’s been a pain for years lol
twilit arch
because steam and non steam pc fill the same license spot
untold sand
hows ffxiv in terms of DRM on the web version?
wary topaz
Can anybody help me? I tried the free trial for a bit through steam but wanted to play with friends so upgraded to starter addition through steam and tried upgrading my account but it gives me a i2501 error saying I cannot use that function.
twilit arch
try using a different web browser, using incognito mode, using mobile data. if none of that works, you'll just have to contact support
wooden whale
can i link my PC's FFXIV account to ps4 client
eager widget
no DRM but the game can’t be pirated @untold sand
faint flare
Yes
crimson wind
but you have to buy the ps4 ver
wooden whale
that is not possible with steam right
faint flare
You would need to rebuy EVERYTHING agaib
untold sand
ffs so im unable to use my current account to get web version then. end me
wary topaz
@twilit arch That worked, thank you 🙂 my vpn was affecting it
twilit arch
you can have a steam pc and ps4 account
untold sand
no support to help with it either?
faint flare
You can have either PC or Steam, Ps4 and mac on your account
wooden whale
wait, arent purchases binded to the account?
faint flare
Licenses
eager widget
they are but there’s crossplay
faint flare
You own a PC licence
eager widget
so you can use the acc on any platform
untold sand
who said i needed a new account then`?
faint flare
But not pS4
remote lintel
you need a new account if you're on steam and want to play on windows
or vice versa
wary topaz
Well sorta, now I can't log in but it says the account transfered successuflly
twilit arch
when i say "you can have steam pc and ps4" i do not mean you can have a steam + non steam pc together on the same account
i mean that you can own steam and ps4 on the same account
remote lintel
what does it say when you try to log in @wary topaz
wary topaz
untold sand
my shit in my emails and shit is so messed up cuz was talked into playin trial a lot so i recovered and unmessed an old account got the dlcs and stuff. now u say u have to reactivate an old account and buy edition again just to play basic game?
wary topaz
@remote lintel
untold sand
to get drm free xd
wary topaz
Even though It shows on the web site that I have a subscription and have bought starter edition
wary topaz
I open via steam
wary topaz
Or at least started the launcher though steam
shrewd mirage
Do I need to have a square enix account to play ffxiv on steam?
wary topaz
OH
I restarted launcher, working now I think? I'm downloading it
Square Enix is so finicky, it took me hours just to get an account started when I first started the trial version
faint flare
Account making is the biggest hurdle
wary topaz
Luckily I absolutley love the game 😄 the pain of making the account was worth it
Anyway, we will see in 30 minutes when it's done downloading, thanks for the help everyone ❤️
open ember
I remember it took me 3 days to try and make an account on free trial
I wish square enix was less. Finicky with it
eager widget
it’s just as awkward in FFXI, so don’t worry
amber ingot
is there any easy way to get lb3 with solo for video purposes?
eager widget
everyone gets to suffer
obsidian patio
Impossible to get LB3 solo
But if you want to get it for gpose purposes the easiest duty would be Ifrit Hard
elder meteor
melding stat priority for gunbreaker?
amber ingot
so use it as last skill then gpose?
elder meteor
happen to have the priority for scholar also?
eager widget
we’re also now at the point in the expac where crit is outscaling DH
faint flare
Piety to comfort > crit > dh or det
eager widget
I think the breakpoint for crit to outright be better is 3500, according to an old ShB chart
wary topaz
What's the funnest crafting job to focus on?
remote lintel
you should level all crafters together
obsidian patio
They all have the same skills
elder meteor
imo if you do one crafter you should do them all
wary topaz
I am planning on doing them all, I asked what the funnest was to do x3
elder meteor
except for main/off, they use the same gear. they also all have the same abilities. they also all craft materials for each other (except cooking I guess)
they're all the same as far as fun imo
wary topaz
idk what main/off even means
elder meteor
main weapon and offhand
remote lintel
main hand off hand
wary topaz
I'm talking about crafting, like blacksmithing/fishing/cooking ect, what does that have to do with weapons?
elder meteor
they all have a main hand tool and an offhand tool
remote lintel
a sewing needle is a main hand, a cloth wheel is an off hand
elder meteor
those are different for each crafter. the rest of the gear is shared between all crafters
wary topaz
Oh you mean you have to equip to craft? I thought there was like stations or something you have to go to
remote lintel
no
faint flare
Nope
remote lintel
they are classes
wary topaz
Like in WoW
remote lintel
they use crafting gear
faint flare
You physically turn into that job
eager widget
nah it’s an actual job, with equipment
glossy flare
Not weird, cool 😄
eager widget
and rotations and skills too!
glossy flare
They are full on classes
remote lintel
you have to gear all of them
faint flare
Crafting and gathering is seperate and its own separate game
remote lintel
and they have skills
glossy flare
With their own skills and even content
Whole questlines only for crafters/gatherers
agile laurel
crafters and gatherers have like twice the actions of most wow classes. 
remote lintel
theyre basically classes except theres no combat
glossy flare
We like this game and WoW comparisons make us antsy
agile laurel
some of us like both and can make reasonable comparisons
dont believe the meme that everyone here'll shoot you for mentioning it
wary topaz
WoW is the only other MMO i've ever played so it's the only thing I have to compair, sorry, I know this game is alot different then other MMO's
glossy flare
Eh, I'd still call it a wowlike MMO
elder meteor
yup
glossy flare
Some other MMOs out there are way more different than xiv
wary topaz
I'm still trying to figure out how I'm supposed to keep track of all the abilities a class gets, I've seen end game videos and they have like 4 rows of buttons, but I guess I'll have to figure it out when I get far enough
wary topaz
3 seems extreme to me x3
agile laurel
anything more is likely macros and fluff
remote lintel
it's not that much
crisp ether
wait not everyone keybinds the manderville dance?
remote lintel
each class has like 32 skills or something
wooden whale
hi, I heard i am able to switch jobs but i didn't really get how lol
small rampart
how long does the newbie icon last?
remote lintel
@wooden whale unlock the class via the quest and equip the weapon
crisp ether
168 hours and until you finish stormblood
wary topaz
Sprigs? I was wondering that as well @small rampart
remote lintel
what are you trying to unlock
elder meteor
mine are probably due for another reorganization
agile laurel
something like that
wooden whale
lancer
remote lintel
gridania
crisp ether
new gridania
remote lintel
lancer guild
remote lintel
/nastatus off
small rampart
168 hours and until you finish stormblood (newbie icon)
so as long as one doesnt buy and finish stormblood that icon stays there?
good to know ty
wary topaz
Why do they even have that anyway?
cerulean bobcat
Hi. New here. I messed up buying FFXIV on Steam instead of starting with the trial first. But anyway I noticed Exodus seems to be full a lot. Should I create a new character & start over in a new world thats less congested? I'm only lvl 3.
wintry chasm
You'd still need 168 hour playtime
zinc orbitBOT
remote lintel
@wary topaz for alts
small rampart
I think I will get to 168 hour before starting stormblood lol
wintry chasm
Why do they even have that anyway?
Story skip? Because for some reason some people don't like story, also for alts, also because it's more money
I think I will get to 168 hour before starting stormblood lol
Should do yeah
open ember
Story skips are usually intended for alts
wary topaz
Oof bots right, should prolly move over to discussion
small rampart
I think he meant why the newbie sign exists
crisp ether
i think at the end of ShB i was at like 250 hours
latent bloom
@cerulean bobcat If no one answers, I will once i kill this boss
open ember
Its highly advised not to skip on yout first run
wary topaz
And yeah I was talking about why the Newbie sign exists
crisp ether
to identify new players
cerulean bobcat
Thanks @latent bloom
crisp ether
some people might be less toxic to people who are new/unsure
remote lintel
if you already made a character on a congested world it doesnt matter @cerulean bobcat
open ember
Its so people know they're new and might not know all the mechanics Ina dunegon
wary topaz
Yeah but if you get to level 50 why would you be considered a new player anymore?
cerulean bobcat
@remote lintel Couldn't I create a new character & start over on a different world?
crisp ether
level 50 is not the end of the game
latent bloom
Yes
remote lintel
if you really wanted to
wary topaz
Well no, but by the time you hit 50 you have already put like what? 10 hours into the game?
wintry chasm
@cerulean bobcat you can try another unless you have friends you want to visit. Exodus is just unavailable due to the amount of people logged in at once. Just trying at a later time would work
open ember
Yea but that's not how this game classifies new players
wintry chasm
I know Lamia is another non congested server
latent bloom
COngestion only really effects on a Data Center basis and on the marketboard and monsters which you may wish to farm for items
crimson wind
Does Make it Rain come with its own cosmetics
small rampart
I just did the Titan primal fight few hours ago...
me: ohh we have to move to sides to take less dmg... whats this red sign at the very side of the arena
pikachu face
cerulean bobcat
Thanks @wintry chasm . I can only play at certain times, so if its going to be an issue it's probably best to use a different world. Just not sure which one would be best from Primal.
wintry chasm
Yeah but if you get to level 50 why would you be considered a new player anymore?
Laughs
you're still a scrub at 50
remote lintel
yes
crisp ether
yep
wintry chasm
@cerulean bobcat All the same. Your issue is just the initial make a character. Once you get past that it's fiiiiine
wary topaz
That's not very far off from 50...x3
nova widget
maybe the wrong place to ask... I'm just trying to buy a tales of adventure and when I go to pick payment method I get an error i2501 no matter which option I pick. Anyone experienced this before?
lone spruce
What’s some good gear for a level 50 alchemist? I really need better stats to craft some high level grimoires
small rampart
36h and lvl 42 and I still feel like almost the same as I was around lvl 10-20
crisp ether
its a common error yeah, it genrally means your account is flagged in some way for payments
wintry chasm
But 50-80 is a lot harder to get to and you have a lot more content to get through than 1-50
small rampart
in terms of being a srub
agile laurel
it's like wow going 1-60 and then 120 not seeming so far off compared to the previous effort
wintry chasm
1-50 is just the base game
crisp ether
you'll likely need to contact sqex customer support @nova widget
cerulean bobcat
@wintry chasm I had already made the character. 2 or 3 times since then I had to wait in a queue
wintry chasm
50-80 is THREE expansions
agile laurel
same context, just base game compared to expansions
crimson wind
Getting from 1-50 is significantly shorter than 50-80, also MSQ
nova widget
fantastic. thanks Hekaton
wintry chasm
@cerulean bobcat Oh the queue takes 2 seconds seriously
Not much you can do about it anyway
wary topaz
So how long does it take to get from 1-80?
remote lintel
depends on how much you play
wintry chasm
It's too hard
Queue times
How fast you do dungeons
What dungeons you do
How quick you do class quests
How quick you do so many things
Far too many variables
remote lintel
skipping cutscenes
wary topaz
That's fair
wintry chasm
Also depends on if it's your first job or second
agile laurel
quick check, if I've seen F14 #2 on E5S I've seen everything right?
wary topaz
I'm just trying to gauge how many hours I'm gonna sink into this game to get to end game x3 it's really not that important
wintry chasm
quick check, if I've seen F14 #2 on E5S I've seen everything right?
@agile laurel Oh fuck, uhhh, I think so
remote lintel
yes
crimson wind
I was at hour 300~ when I finished ShB
wintry chasm
I'm just trying to gauge how many hours I'm gonna sink into this game to get to end game x3 it's really not that important
That isn't about how fast you hit 80. That's about how fast you finish the main story
remote lintel
it will take you like a month to play the entire story
wintry chasm
Two different things
agile laurel
alright, seen up to f14 2 and just judging whether I can hop into clear pfs and get it over with
wary topaz
@crimson wind Nice, so that's about 2 factorio runs for me x3
autumn oriole
Leveling alts just gives you more options for endgame. Msq is the real requirement
noble belfry
Sorry to just jump in, but anyone know if it's possible to buy Scaevan Shellac anymore to augment the base gear?
remote lintel
there is no base gear anymore so
crimson wind
No iirc
noble belfry
Dangit. XD
wintry chasm
Not sure but the gear comes augmented anyway
wary topaz
So I started out as an Arcanist, does that mean I'm a healer since I use magic...? I'm not sure how that works
noble belfry
I already had the base gear and was hoping to just buy the augment items to spend less. lol
agile laurel
wrong
crisp ether
wait no
small rampart
will there be a mount upgrade where u can cast it while moving/instacast it?
crisp ether
it can also be scholar too
agile laurel
Yeah arcanist is weird
wintry chasm
@wary topaz you are a DPS but when you unlock jobs you can go into Summoner which is DPS and Scholar which is a Healer
wary topaz
OH so it's not set when I start the game? I can change it?
wintry chasm
Arcanist is cool like that
agile laurel
it has both summoner and scholar as job upgrades
crisp ether
arcanist is the one base class that has two jobs
wintry chasm
Only class with two jobs tied to it
remote lintel
arcanist is the only class where you can choose what you want to be
wintry chasm
And you can unlock both
obsidian patio
@small rampart nope
wary topaz
Awesome! I love having options :3
remote lintel
also if you level one class you get the other
autumn oriole
Also scholar and summoner share levels because they both come from arcanist
agile laurel
Best way to consider jobs is as 'class additions', you have an extra gear slot where you equip soul crystals which activates your job
remote lintel
so if you level summoner you leveled scholar
agile laurel
yeah
summoner/scholar/arcanist is more comparable to a subclass system than the rest of the jobs/classes
crimson wind
Do you happen to come from WoW?@wary topaz
wary topaz
cool, that really helps get my head around it. I saw end game summoner video a few nights ago and seems freaking awesome
agile laurel
they said earlier they do, yeah
wary topaz
@crimson wind Yes
agile laurel
i like summoner. fun stuff
crimson wind
Btw, this is a story based game, and you can havw all jobs on one character
crisp ether
SMN was my first 80, was a fun class
agile laurel
i'm trying to draw comparisons where I can but don't wanna antagonise the chat with 'oh well compared to wow it's like'
lmao
wary topaz
What do you mean all jobs? Like all classes? or all crafting classes? @crimson wind
agile laurel
all classes
wintry chasm
Yes
crimson wind
Every class
wary topaz
So I could become a tank if I wanted to?
wintry chasm
And gathering classes
crisp ether
yep
agile laurel
yep
remote lintel
yes
crimson wind
Yes
wintry chasm
EVERYTHING
wary topaz
:OOOOO
remote lintel
you can be all classes
wary topaz
I love this game so much
agile laurel
changing your class is as simple as unlocking it, and then changing your weapon
crisp ether
you can have every single job/class on a single character
halcyon glen
hello and welcome to not-wow, we thought one-job-per-character restrictions were stupid so we removed them
agile laurel
having every class and switching is as simple as having every specialisation in wow
wintry chasm
For example
wary topaz
No more spending hours leveling up 10 alts ❤️
wintry chasm
!whoclasses @wintry chasm
zinc orbitBOT
Disciples of War for Calamus Firma
wintry chasm
All my levels on my main character
halcyon glen
wow not even 60 blu
brittle comet
the only caveat is that you have to level up the job from 1 (though certain jobs start at higher levels)
wintry chasm
I'm slacking I know
agile laurel
i could flex my full set of levels but eh
wintry chasm
Uni be hard
brittle comet
should i be aware of many mechanics for Keeper of the Lake as DPS?
quasi spire
what's the preferred way to get gear between 71-80 for a 2nd job? (so no msq gear)
halcyon glen
Scaevan stops working like halfway through
agile laurel
ehhhh
remote lintel
for the beginning
brittle comet
ty!
wintry chasm
should i be aware of many mechanics for Keeper of the Lake as DPS?
Kill the adds on final boss, and prioritise the bird thing and then when the shield shows up go inside unless you want to die
little swift
Gear curve is way less steep this expansion
crimson wind
Scaevan lasts up to 80
quasi spire
yeah i'm in almost total scaevan for now (where do I get an unaugmented ring tho)?
halcyon glen
How are you leveling @quasi spire?
little swift
Compared to previous expansions
halcyon glen
you don't anymore
wintry chasm
(that's stupid)
quasi spire
dungeons and roulette
little swift
Scaevan will be ok but replace with what you can if you jse the leveling dungeons
halcyon glen
If you're doing dungeons, just keep and equip drops from the 73 dungeon on yep
remote lintel
tbh i leveled my alt jobs to 80 on full sets of scaevan which probably isnt the way to go but i did it
autumn oriole
For alts just use tomestone gears and use dungeon gears to replace them if you are lucky enough to get those
halcyon glen
73 dungeon drops are scaevan-equivalent, so take your pick 😛
ripe hound
But yeah, generally you won't have too much problem even with Scaev gear in lv 79 dungeons
quasi spire
i cant get a 2nd augmented scaevan ring so what should i use there? still have a shire ring lul
ripe hound
If you are tank or healer wall to wall might be harder though
little swift
Can always use the 385 ghimlyt ring
ripe hound
I just keep using second shire ring
little swift
Or islewolf is the 385 crafted
autumn oriole
I leveled my tanks with shire plus some random dungeon drops and it was totally fine for wall to wall pulls
halcyon glen
what's the O9N ring?
ripe hound
Nice
quasi spire
i levelled tank using msq gear so that wasn't a problem
now i'm levelling dps (DNC, NIN and RDM)
halcyon glen
Omega's 9th and 10th floor also drop bolts you can exchange for 380 rings
normal omega, that is
quasi spire
Hmm i guess i should do a bit of omega for now, still have that raid series to do
halcyon glen
the BEST alt ring you can have is savage omega at 400
static grove
hey I'm very new to the game, I've realized you can press Alt (alongside with the key you want to press) to cast it on yourself, my question is: how can I change it to Shift?
faint flare
System menu > keybinds
quasi spire
it's not gonna used be for too long, so i'm not too sure farming savage is viable
at 80 there's better gear
tidal yarrow
how do i get this head piece?
remote lintel
jk its far eastern schoolgirl
wintry chasm
||I hope no one reads that spoiler duty finder pop up||
static grove
@faint flare i dont know if u were talking to me but ive looked at it and havent found that button yet, can you be more specific?
wintry chasm
....I think they want the actual keybind guys
faint flare
You can change keybinds there
static grove
ofcourse ive been there but is that on targeting or smth?
faint flare
And adjust to use shift modifiers for whatever you want
static grove
ive been trough the menus
remote lintel
i dont think pressing alt casts the spell on yourself
it just automatically does that when youre targeting an enemy or no target
static grove
doesn't it? maybe it was placebo effect when i tried to heal it used on me
remote lintel
were you targeting an enemy
static grove
ye...
remote lintel
then it casts on yourself
static grove
so can i do it so when holding shift it casts that spell?
halcyon glen
The default target of any ally-target ability is the user
remote lintel
it doesnt matter what button youre pressing
if you use a healing spell with an enemy targeted it heals yourself
halcyon glen
if you're targetting something other than an ally (for example, an enemy) and you push a heal or something, the action targets yourself
remote lintel
if you want to change your hotbars so you press shift to use your spells then thats a different thing
in which case just do what vinyl said
amber ingot
why only Tanks have achievement mounts 😐 or im missing something?
remote lintel
because back then nobody wanted to tank so they gave them incentive
faint flare
To intensive playing tanks
amber ingot
kek
ripe hound
Where is my healer achievement mounts?
ripe hound
Sad
I reached lv 60 on all my crafters, how do I obtain gear?
Craft them myself?
I just need gear that can do lv 60 Ishgard restore stuff
gritty oracle
@ripe hound I recommend waiting until 61 and crafting yourself, or getting crafted, gaganaskin bloodhemp gear. It lasted me until 70 where I bought handking.
ripe hound
Job quest rewards... Is that enough to craft stuff?
Oh right
So lv 61 crafter gear right?
gritty oracle
yeah
crisp ether
yeah 61 gear will be way cheaper than trying to buy 60 gear
ripe hound
Also do I just keep turn in lv 40 stuff to reach lv 61?
quasi spire
is 61 crafting gear leatherworker or weaver? should i be omnicrafting?
crisp ether
yeah thats how i did it with ishgard restoration
gritty oracle
Custom deliveries shower you in scrips.
crisp ether
you turn in items for scrips
ripe hound
Is there any thing other than khole for custom delivery?
narrow star
hello! i need some help
gritty oracle
Iirc a full handking set, not counting tools, comes down to about 1.5-2k scrips. So start doing custom deliveries each week (Zhloe and M'naago are your current options, do both of them) and you'll have way more than enough by the time you reach 70
vocal shell
Zhloe, Kurenai, M’naago, Kai Shirr and Ehll Tou @ripe hound
ripe hound
kk
gritty oracle
Akira is 60
narrow star
Can anybody help me out. " No valid service account available"
gritty oracle
Kurenai is 62, Adkiragh is 66, Kai-Shirr and Ehl Tou are 70
ripe hound
Got it
gritty oracle
it means your sub ran out
narrow star
its an error my friends is getting while trying to get a sub
gritty oracle
huh
narrow star
can you post screen shots here?
remote lintel
yes
remote lintel
can he not click teh link in mog station to add a subscription
scarlet hinge
for arcanist how when you choose one of the sub classes do they level all the way with the other class
crisp ether
at 30 you'll get quests to pick
remote lintel
@narrow star and when he clicks "add subscription"?
remote lintel
can he buy a game time card and add that
wait
why did he click the steam link to add a sub
he doesnt have steam
narrow star
he does
remote lintel
he doesnt have ff14 on steam
narrow star
it says standard(steam)
remote lintel
crimson wind
Wait Cerberus since when have you been a viera
narrow star
we cant digure it out
ripe hound
The piecing and other different types of damage are gone right?
There are just physical and magical player damage now
granite swan
what does it say if an account is banned?
granite swan
ya but i mean on the account page
crimson wind
I dunno
granite swan
it says he has no valid service account, but hes got a Cancel button, so he didnt cancel the service
remote lintel
@ripe hound yes
gritty oracle
There is piercing, blunt and slashing damage, but it only matters in some very specific cases, like in Shiva Ex/Unreal where Shiva's attacks grant you a debuff that increases damage taken from piercing/blunt/slashing attacks, the type of the attack that is her next phase.
ripe hound
kk
narrow star
@granite swan we cant even add a DC key
CD KEY
he cought bringers to see if it would work
gritty oracle
Basically it only matters if there's a debuff or buff mechanic centered around it @ripe hound
narrow star
that comes up
remote lintel
bought from where
narrow star
steam
granite swan
Probly need to contact Support
remote lintel
email support
silent gorge
Why cant i summon my mount
remote lintel
did you use it first from your inventory
open ember
Did you get the chocobo first
silent gorge
No how do i do that
remote lintel
!faq mounts
zinc orbitBOT
remote lintel
this side quest
faint flare
See top half
open ember
Yeah you need the company chocobo first
silent gorge
Damn
lone zephyr
is hall of novice just the role tutorial? or do you get something for clearing it ?
remote lintel
you get gear
faint flare
Pretty good gear
proud willow
the final exercise rewards you with a ring that you definitely want
faint flare
No
narrow star
ahh alright
faint flare
We're just reddit nerds
remote lintel
there's no GMs here
remote lintel
contract supoort
narrow star
at the mercy of the compnay i guess
wooden ginkgo
wait you need to buy the subscription and the expansions to play the game fully?
remote lintel
yes
leaden ginkgo
Sorry for the noob question but, is there a specific server I should join? Just got finished downloading the free trial for the first time
wooden ginkgo
oh i thought you only needed one D:
leaden ginkgo
I live in northern California if that makes a difference
open ember
Join a preferred server
remote lintel
oh right
open ember
For the road to 70 buff
remote lintel
if you plan on doing endgame raids seriously then dont join crystal
open ember
Check this
Before picking servers
Like Cerberus said, if you want to raid later, then Crystal is not the best option
wooden ginkgo
wait whats wrong with crystal?
open ember
Not raid heavy
open ember
RP heavy
wooden ginkgo
oh
open ember
You can raid you just. Won't find. As Much
twilit arch
its just not as competitive as primal/aether
open ember
I mean its not inherently bad it's just a fair warning for if you do intend to do raiding later
fair mango
How do I make a resurrection macro for Ast? The one that says it in the chat
open ember
Hmm they're gonna change server status for 5.35 or 5.4?
faint flare
Both
leaden ginkgo
the only preferred ones are crystal, should i opt for that or nah
open ember
That's what I was thinking ok thanks
faint flare
It should change on 5.35
fair mango
I still have my road to 70 buff on Sarganatas
open ember
Yeah but if you create a new character there now it won't have that
obsidian patio
The only payment I ask for is maybe a name that doesn’t want to murder discord when I ping it. ❤️
fair mango
fair
remote lintel
fair mango
❤️
faint flare
The subscription covers everything but doesn't get you with anything
wooden ginkgo
oh D:
faint flare
Complete edition gives you everything you need to fully upgrade and 30days free sub, after that you need to pay the sub monthly
wooden ginkgo
oooh ty!
twilit arch
that's for hitting lvl 30 on a preferred server
wide ivy
hello, is anyone able to help me do one of the starting quest where i need to enter the sastasha dungeon?
open ember
Use your duty finder
Unless you want someone on Light DC to help you by being in a party with you
wide ivy
i am using the finder
open ember
Oh right
wide ivy
servers dead right now for me
open ember
Ah rip
ripe hound
How do I craft collectables?
open ember
If I was on Light I would help you unfortunately I am not on Light
ripe hound
If the item I need to craft is collectable it automatically enter collectable mode?
twilit arch
same way you would normally craft, the difference is that the quality bar becomes a collectability bar
open ember
Put your collectable glove on
twilit arch
anything that is a collectable is automatically crafted as such
ripe hound
kk I don't need to enter collectable mode manually like in gathering right?
twilit arch
No
wide ivy
also does being in different server effect connection?
ripe hound
Cool
faint flare
No jin
ripe hound
Also where do I find Heartfelt Gift Component?
wide ivy
oh wtf
faint flare
Duty finder pulls from the entire data centre
twilit arch
the scrap salvager in idyllshire
faint flare
Its almost midnight for EU so
wide ivy
i know
faint flare
Gil
open ember
A tip: all crafter Custom Deliveries are from the scrap salvager
faint flare
No
open ember
And no its not marketboard tradable
twilit arch
the component materials are
open ember
It wouldn't cost much anyway. Its better to buy it from the salvager to save time and effort
hot eagle
as dps your que times can take a while so get used to it, also did u tick on the other languages in your duty finder settings
twilit arch
but not Heartfelt Gift Component
ripe hound
I have 12 allowance left
twilit arch
yes
open ember
You can edit her appearance
open ember
Yep
The only ones you can do that for is M'naago and Ehll Tou
You can dress up everyone else
ripe hound
I don't need to HQ the Heartfelt Gift Component right?
ripe hound
I think using HQ mats don't matter that much for collectability?
ripe hound
kk
ripe hound
Do you write a macro to make the mats or hand craft it?
Also how do I write a macro?
What programs are there?
Team craft?
open ember
Nah I don't have a macro for custom deliveries
graceful prairie
how do i become a paladin ? im level 30 gladiator
open ember
@graceful prairie Get your jobstone from lv30 job quest
twilit arch
!faq job
zinc orbitBOT
ripe hound
Also how do I write my own macros?
wide ivy
um whats one of the most popular servers in the na region?
open ember
For the macro thing idk. I got my macros from friends. I am not the best person to go to for that
ripe hound
lol
sand belfry
um whats one of the most popular servers in the na region?
@wide ivy I think most of NA is populated, in Exodus everytime i login i get into a queue
open ember
No
wide ivy
ah
ripe hound
Thanks
open ember
Behemoth, Balmung and Gilgamesh
ripe hound
If I don't know what I'm doing I just click random button and hope HQ reachs 100% right?
twilit arch
I think most of NA is populated
They didn't say Exodus is most populated, but their statement is correct
open ember
Akira use your touch skills
twilit arch
most of NA is populated and even the smallest server is pretty decently large, especially if you look at the population of JP servers
open ember
Thats how you raise HQ
Well that's true but you can't define a servers population just because there's a queue. There's always a queue in any NA server
twilit arch
but tbh server population really isn't that big of a deal. Duty finder is cross server anyway, and you can server hop to find better deals. The main thing to go to a specific server for is: free company, and to play with your friends
ripe hound
Yeah, I'm currently mostly Final Appraisal -> Muscle Memory -> Inner Quiet -> Innovation -> Waste Not II -> Random Buttons -> Great Strides -> Observe into Good -> Byregot's Blessing
Something like that
ripe hound
Yeah