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#questions-and-help
faint flare
If you get LB3 before it dies
ripe hound
I mean it's luck and PF dependent but still possible right?
Oh my people can kill wolex before obtaining a LB3?
That's like... Fast
ripe hound
Also there usually is a window before he enrages where you can dps LB right?
faint flare
Anytime he's casting a ability
ripe hound
Wait, is the condition for dps LB, that wolex is charging a spell? Or is it when wolex don't have a LB bar stored
ripe hound
Even if he don't have LB bar?
kk
What damage does dps LB do?
I mean is there a chart for LB potencies?
ripe hound
Also are there any situation in the game where you would use a Healer or Tank LB 1 or 2?
halcyon glen
And I forget what caster/ranged potency is but it;s the same
ripe hound
kk thanks ddrox
halcyon glen
And no, the only situation in which one would use Healer or Tank LB2 is when you're memeing with friends and stealing their LB to spite them
ripe hound
Is it often a good idea to Range/Caster LB trash in dungeons?
faint flare
Yes
little swift
yes
halcyon glen
YES
faint flare
By far
ripe hound
Nice
halcyon glen
and one I wish more casters would do
ripe hound
Saving a LB2 for the final boss at 1% in dungeons are not worth it right?
raw solstice
take any potency numbers you find for LB with a grain of salt, to note though
little swift
it does more damage than the anime finisher people like to use
faint flare
Totally not worth as a finisher
little swift
overkilling a boss is pointless
ripe hound
Yeah
faint flare
You get like 2 lbs in a dungeon
little swift
thats why in harder fights, if we know its safe its better to lb3 early
and then possibly generate another lb1
ripe hound
kk
halcyon glen
What Rika said. Just know that Melee is usually just under 2x the potency of Ranged/Caster LBs
ripe hound
How much does LB1 do? About 1/4, 1/5 of a LB3?
Also people don't LB2 the adds in Wolex because people reasons?
obsidian patio
remote lintel
they can
halcyon glen
If you have a physical ranged, they can do it
vestal needle
can free trial get marry?
remote lintel
you can lb3 the adds in the dps tower phase iirc
ripe hound
Oh nice numbers!
vestal needle
what if one who buys it isnt free trial
ripe hound
But yeah, if my PF people don't LB during wolex adds it's because they stupid right?
vestal needle
but the other one is fre trial
faint flare
Both need to buy it
remote lintel
you either need to buy it or trade it both of which you cant do
halcyon glen
Odds are they just don't think of it
ripe hound
Yeah
ripe hound
RDM can't hit both adds
ripe hound
Hun, I didn't notice
magic light
AND PULL THEM ALL THE WAY TO THE CORNER TO THE POINT MELEE DPS CAN'T HIT THEM IN TOWERS
halcyon glen
if RDM LB2 can hit both adds the baddies are often too close to each other
ripe hound
Yeah, maybe caster LB2 can hit both adds
magic light
i've done plenty of wolex
ripe hound
But yeah... It still sounds kind of risky
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magic light
the dmg red they get from being too close has a short period
by the time lb goes off, it should be enough
ripe hound
Ok that's way too risky
magic light
what? I've seen it consistently
halcyon glen
If you're doing h/t tethers melee loses uptime because the adds follow the tanks north and there's nothing either of them can do about it
calm phoenix
What quest am I missing for Sea of Clouds? Nobody at Sea of Clouds has any + quests. I checked both north and south
magic light
....
ripe hound
Yeah, I guess if you're in a static people usually do htmr
remote lintel
did you finish the msq?
magic light
tanks can literally sit in the bahamut's body so dps can uptime
magic light
it bugs me when tanks pull the adds all the way into the corners
vocal shell
that last aether current is always msq locked
halcyon glen
Or if not, MSQ.
halcyon glen
ah
halcyon glen
they're not
ripe hound
Right, last aether current is always in MSQ, I think
calm phoenix
I am about to fight Bismarck. Have I passed the MSQ locked one yet?
halcyon glen
no
raw solstice
like I said
faint flare
You get it after
vocal shell
it's the MSQ they're on currently
raw solstice
it's the one that you're on right now
halcyon glen
It's almost always the last MSQ in an area
calm phoenix
I am waiting for the queue to pop. So I will have it after the fight?
halcyon glen
As Bismark is solidly "an MSQ in Sea of Clouds", good guess that you don't
After you turn in the quest
because the current is a quest reward
brittle comet
so i've managed to overlevel my BLM to like 50, but i'm only to Lord of Crags in ARR. is it a horrible idea to go grab RLM and use that for the remainder of the msq
remote lintel
red mage?
brittle comet
yes
remote lintel
red mage starts at 50 so
ripe hound
Wait, are there possibly any senario you would want to use Healer LB1/2 to get Mana to raise people?
remote lintel
no
twilit arch
not really
ripe hound
I mean if it's stupid and it works...?
faint flare
Lb1/2 doesn't raise
raw solstice
it does give MP but like
twilit arch
they mean getting mana from the lb to cast raise
raw solstice
I'm all for trying to make niche uses of stuff work and make sense
ripe hound
Yeah it's probably some stupid strat
raw solstice
I've never been in a situation to even come close to justifying that
especially since if it's that dire
ripe hound
Yesh
raw solstice
you probably don't want to waste the time in animation lock from the LB
twilit arch
if you're in a situation like that, you should probably just wipe and reset
brave ravine
any meta things are already explored
ripe hound
Yeah
Healers
Generate limit break on healing a tank from critical health (~10% health). After the healer heals a tank from critical damage, limit break is built continuously over time until the LB is used.
Generate limit break on critical healing.
Is this true?
remote lintel
yes
drifting burrow
do people do art commissions for gil/is it allowed? 
ripe hound
So a strat is to dilebratly make the tank fall to really low health at the beginning of the fight?
remote lintel
i mean if you want to
ripe hound
I think that's borderline RMT but probably...?
I mean it do sounds like good health for the game
raw solstice
that strat of bonus LB doesn't work any longer other than old content
twilit arch
its RMT, technically
ripe hound
Wait why don't it work?
raw solstice
they made it not work
ripe hound
I see
remote lintel
wat
twilit arch
but if you don't discuss it in game, then there's no real way for the gms to punish you
raw solstice
you could abuse it and generate a ton of extra LB
ripe hound
But yeah, I think commission for gil is borderline RMT.
remote lintel
by "critical healing" it means like heal crits?
raw solstice
no
twilit arch
it means low hp healing
raw solstice
healing people at super low HP
remote lintel
so you don't generate lb on low hp healing anymore?
ripe hound
kk
raw solstice
correct
remote lintel
oh
drifting burrow
oki thank you 
raw solstice
neither do you generate extra LB from shielding through an otherwise lethal raidwide
you still do on like level 70 content and below
twilit arch
it was during 5.0 right that people would cheese lb generation for titania ex
ripe hound
Wait so healers don't generate LB at all anymore?
twilit arch
though i know it was a thing before that
remote lintel
so its fine to mitigate on sos ex lb4 then
twilit arch
by taking off gear to get super low and being healed up
ripe hound
Dafuq is that strat
raw solstice
LB is just a thing that's generated very statically over time other than fight-specific means of generation like killing specific adds
ripe hound
This is some really big brain strat
ripe hound
Macro that quickly takes of and reequip gear
faint flare
People did the lb cheese strat in o6s. The unequip and reequip and just have fat shields keeping people alive to the first aoe
ripe hound
Yeah this sounds way too stupid
remote lintel
half naked players were too powerful
crimson wind
Is mt Gulg gear just reskinned WoD gear?
twilit arch
yes
ripe hound
Wait what's WoD gear?
crimson wind
weird connection to make....
ripe hound
Hun? That's old...
remote lintel
thers a lot of reskinned stuff and reused models
ripe hound
I though you're talking about WoL, WoD or something
Do you need money to level all crafters to 80?
Or Ishgard Restor make it fairly cheap?
twilit arch
restoration makes it pretty cheap, assuming you are also leveling gatherers (or have 80 gatherers) to do diadem
ripe hound
How much will it cost if you don't gather? About 1 mil?
twilit arch
how much its gonna cost is hard to ballpark because of server/datacenter prices varying
ripe hound
I see
twilit arch
but probably more than a mil tbh if you're buying everything
ripe hound
But 5 mil sounds way way more than enough right?
twilit arch
mostly depends on how cheap the non-diadem mats are tbh
ripe hound
kk
twilit arch
since a lot of the diadem materials are likely to be fairly cheap ish
ripe hound
kk
If I don't like fishing I don't need to Diadem and level fishing right?
Or is it ok to just not level fisher even if I omni craft?
twilit arch
you can ignore fisher if you want to
it mostly feeds into cul and a bit of alchemy
but for the most part isn't required for either
ripe hound
Yeah I'm gonna ignore it or boost it to 80 or something
Power leveling fisher is easy I heard
Just spam leves with MB fish
twilit arch
ya
ripe hound
Also I reached lv 40 on all my crafters. Should I do my job quests?
Or should I procrastinate and do them later?
ripe hound
Yeah I guess I should do them sooner than latter
It's mostly just buy stuff from mb and turn in anyway
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ripe hound
It's basically waste not but easier to use right?
Also if I don't know what I'm doing in Diadem? Can I just mine random stuff?
Like the way the nodes are randomly generated in Diadem seems... Complicated
twilit arch
for diadem, you basically do laps around the islands
ripe hound
I see, are there difference between the two laps?
twilit arch
ripe hound
I think of is gathering lap, the other is perception?
ripe hound
Also what does the mats on each node mean?
twilit arch
the outside one iirc is the perception nodes, inside is gathering
ripe hound
Does it mean that mat sells the most?
Or is it just the mat that give the more score?
leaden ginkgo
How can I turn in my hunts? (from the hunt boards, not the hunting log)
or are the rewards redeemed immediately upon completion?
leaden ginkgo
so it works like the hunting log
understood, thanks!
https://i.imgur.com/BpYdUDd.png Does this stack with road to 70?
jade quartz
Yes
mint yarrow
Hey I have several questions:
-Are ps4 trophies unlockable with the free trial?
-Do I need to have played many former FF games to understand the story?
-Is the lore intense or is the structure about one FF game's one? As it's a MMORPG i guess it's longer to get knowledge and all but maybe not
Thanks
limpid sorrel
Hi, trying to get the level 60 gear and wanted to know what are best ways to farming poetics? I usually just do daillies
obsidian patio
Unsure about the PS4 trophies, bought the game right away
jade quartz
Dunno,
no, it’s a stand-alone universe
there’s a lot of lore
random hollow
what happens if I have my armoury chest full and I receive a weapon as reward?
jade quartz
!faq poetics
zinc orbitBOT
jade quartz
It goes into your inventory
gloomy ice
Although one thing to consider, the trophy list has never been updated after all this time so free trial does have access to all content required for a plat. Thing is I don't know if you get to keep trophies with the trial.
ivory urchin
Does the game still needs subscription?
obsidian patio
Yes
faint flare
Always will
crimson wind
What's the LB3 priorities for melee?
gloomy ice
All melee LB3s do the same amount of damage. As long as one gets to use it, it'll be fine.
patent citrus
what rotation includes limit break? o_o
ivory urchin
Only for 14 days?
ivory urchin
I have the game so i cant play until I subscribe?
faint flare
No
crimson wind
Unless you bought the game
faint flare
Its not free to play, its free to try. Can't get free samples of something you own
shell echo
When I came back after a hiatus there was some option to enable exp bonus for 72 hours. I cancelled it because I wanted to save it for class change. How do I enable it?
limpid sorrel
Thanks @jade quartz ! Sorry for late reply, got into a dungeon
shell echo
Also what's that helmet icon on a dark knight class?
faint flare
Its your darkside/living shadow gauge
ripe hound
Darkside is the tank stance and Living Shadow is the dot summon right?
faint flare
Darkside is the damage buff from Floods
shell echo
Floods?
faint flare
Flood/edge of darkness/shadow
shell echo
Ohhh flood gives dmg bonus
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shell echo
Gotcha thanks
ripe hound
hun?
faint flare
Yes, you need to keep that damage buff up
Darkside isn't an action
!action Edge of Shadow
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crimson wind
You'll keep Darkside up naturally if you're doing your rotation right
ripe hound
Does DRK have a 60 second rotation of CDs?
faint flare
Most their off globals are 60s ues
ripe hound
kk
shell echo
Anyone know how to activate my exp bonus? The one after coming back from a long period
faint flare
Carve and spit, abyssal, salted earth etc
ripe hound
Delirium is a 90cd thing right?
cyan kettle
should I be using my leveling 16 routelletes on low level classes or can I use it to level higher classe too?
halcyon glen
Whatever you want!
halcyon glen
It gives an EXP bonus based on the difference between your level and the instance level afaik
ripe hound
DRK's Blood guage is similar to GNB's Bullets right?
warped nest
Ehhhhhh
They are job gauges
And you spend them to use ability
But that's like the common thing for all job gauges
spring oasis
https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/wiki/Gauki_Strongblade if I checked all his spawns do I just keep going aroudn checking them
ripe hound
kk
shell echo
Thanks guys 😄
twilit arch
you should get a chat notification that you're close to your mark
ripe hound
Yeah I'm trying to match GNB's and DRK's skill one by one
twilit arch
though its possible someone may have killed him while you were checking the other spawn locations, so yeah may as well double check and look for the chat notification
warped nest
Aside from the general defensive cooldown
halcyon glen
Are there any forced tank swaps in casual content?
warped nest
The rest aren't exactly 1:1 in their similarity
ripe hound
I mean it does feel kind of similar
spring oasis
@halcyon glen maybe raids? but idk if you count it casual
jade quartz
There are tank swaps occasionally in casual content
spring oasis
idk what is casual
jade quartz
But usually you can power through without doing it lol
warped nest
Yeah, what qualify as casual?
halcyon glen
normal raids I count yeah
spring oasis
anything MSQ I never had to tank swap
halcyon glen
If it's in a non-mentor roulette
jade quartz
So “suggested tank swaps” rather than mandatory
ripe hound
The only thing I'm surprised is DRK seems to have less mitigation buttons than GNB.
I think it's because you just TBN everything
warped nest
DRK has more similarity to WAR than it does to a GNB if I have to be honest
That's a valid observation
spring oasis
you should Mitigate with TBN no?
jade quartz
Tbn is like the crux of the job
warped nest
TBN is very valuable if you can break it
jade quartz
It’s very powerful
spring oasis
still waiting for TBN nerf and maybe a living dead change so its not dumb 
warped nest
If TBN doesn't break from soaking damage, then it is a okay skill.
If TBN soak up all the damage, it will break and let you use Flood/Edge of Darkness for free once
warped nest
So a good TBN is both and defensive and offensive tool
ripe hound
TBN is somewhere else
elder meteor
is there a guide for gathering/perception break points?
ripe hound
Maybe I should put TBN on two locations...
warped nest
!action Heart of Stone
spring oasis
https://gyazo.com/33a53810514041cbaad0271e7e411d58
TBN is on different bar
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ripe hound
Yeah, in terms of function it's TBN
warped nest
Are similar
spring oasis
ig Dark missionary is mitgation sorta just group
warped nest
That's a tool every tank gets
faint flare
Yes
warped nest
PLD is special in that it has two
ripe hound
Now there are 3 TBN binded!
jade quartz
PLD is irritating that it has to take up two buttons for that function, you mean
ripe hound
TBN is so good it takes up 3 buttons!
But yeah, it is a skill that does a lot of things
warped nest
I understand what your angle is Akira, because that's exactly how I organize my defensive cooldown
ripe hound
lol
warped nest
But I should give you a warning that the tanks are never exactly the same
ripe hound
Yeah
But I do want to make dungeon running simpler
R > F > R > F > Ctrl R
Something like that
warped nest
Where's your arms length and reprisal?
ripe hound
Arms length on V, Reprisal on Shift 3
I put knockback immunity on V because I notice I panic when trying to find it a lot
warped nest
I think you will be fine for now, heck, if anything feels off, you are more than capable of making the necessary adjustments
ripe hound
I'm not really a tank main, more of a healer main
Yeah
The only thing I'm worried is that after all my buttons are synced across classes, changing something minor on one can lead to a whole chain of reworks
Like if Arms Length moves, Sure Cast also moves
ripe hound
Yeah
ripe hound
I do change everything every time I came back into the game
warped nest
Get comfy for a year or so, then oops a new expansion is here
ripe hound
Yup lol
For some reason my Bard setup that I used since 3.x somehow... translated and still works
warped nest
Anyway, I think you are covered for now.
Feel free to drop by if and when you worked on PLD or WAR and needed advice (PLD is a piece of work with button placement)
We should probably clear this channel for other folks
ripe hound
Like I was just pulling out bard randomly that day and I was like "wait I like playing this class, it doesn't make sense!"
Like I thought I had grown out of Bard, playing it in 2.x and 3.x, I'm not interested in it anymore
But turns out I still like it very much
Yeah, I'm probably gonna need help on PLD
All the spells and stuff
spring oasis
if youre learnign DRK I have to say MCH is similar if you ever want to go dps
in rotation
ripe hound
Oh my
spring oasis
I may be the only one who feels that way but it to me is 100% true
ripe hound
I have never learned MCH lol
I'm still gonna need to figure out how to translate Bard skill to MCH skill
little swift
They don't play similarly
ripe hound
Yeah
ripe hound
Like I think nothing is the same for those two classes (BRD and MCH)
ripe hound
Like they are part of the same role!
spring oasis
ripe hound
but still, nothing the same
Like Bard rotates though 3 songs, and have a gauge that seems to only work for a Flare Straight Shot thing
Mean while MCH is like juggle 2 bars with turrets and automata
And Wild fire
little swift
Gaugeis almost a non issue in machinist
ripe hound
Are they all basically just timers?
faint flare
They show a resource
ripe hound
kk
little swift
It boils down to: hypercharge at 50to 80 gauge unless reassemble drill is coming up within 8 seconds
Summon queen at 50
Took autoturret is summon at 100
Theres a bit of intricacy I'm skipping over for simplicity of explanation
warped nest
Tanks and Healers has more common skills because they need those skills to function as tank and healer, outside of that, tank have pretty different DPS phases
little swift
But thats the general gist of it
warped nest
DPS basically need to kill stuff and/or provide some utility
ripe hound
Me: So which button is Bishop again?
Yeah I have no idea how to even start learning MCH
warped nest
That's why they are more varied in how their combat rotation works
ripe hound
I'm trying to learn tanking with Eden's Verse
tardy mesa
Is PoTD/HoH reliable to level up classes?
little swift
Its a fine alternative for dps jobs if you queue faster for it compared to leveling dungeons
tardy mesa
Ooh okay
leaden ginkgo
What are the rowena token's you get for gathering scrips used for beyond HW relics?
I can't seem to get a solid answer via googlin'
tulip plover
Uh whats the point of chivalry
warped nest
What's the context?
tulip plover
Restores mp when using riot blade and ( forgot other skill)
Like does pld even use mp?
random hollow
at what level i should be messing with "materia"?
faint flare
Cap
random hollow
😮
tranquil valve
Yeah, there's not much advantage using materia short of the current level cap.
ripe hound
If you know what you are doing you can use it a bit for low level Crafters / Gatherers though
Like they are fairly cheap, and if they help you hit a threshold for a macro
But this is based on the assumption you level all classes together, so it's one set of gear that the hole Crafter family shares
random hollow
I should be extracting it from my old gears from now on?
random hollow
can i sell it as a free trial player?
ripe hound
Nope
warped nest
You can sell to NPC
faint flare
Only to Merchants
ripe hound
But yeah, if you don't have much use for Materia you can start playing with them
I mean melding if free if you have the materia
And for low level materia you also get them back by retrieving for free
random hollow
would it be better to randomly use it, selling to npc or saving for lateR?
ripe hound
I would say randomly use it
faint flare
You wont see a difference with combat materia
ripe hound
You also get bonus sprit bound when you use equipment that have melded materia
warped nest
No reason to save to be honest...
Ummm
Another way to use it
Albeit very niche
Is to mutamix them
ripe hound
Right, you can throw them into a blender
warped nest
You drop in 5 materia, and you get 1 new one
ripe hound
And sometimes better Materia comes out
warped nest
And sometimes better Materia comes out
And this count as an achievement
random hollow
oh
faint flare
Just achievement
faint flare
Yes
warped nest
Melding materia is still in challenge log right?
faint flare
They removed it
random hollow
i can "unequip" it later for reuse does it become permanently attached?
faint flare
And replaced it with desynth 5 things
ripe hound
You can retrieve the materia
warped nest
And replaced it with desynth 5 things
@faint flare noted, thanks for the info
faint flare
My big break
ripe hound
Also is it worth it to do Challenge Log for EXP?
faint flare
Yes
ripe hound
I mean I guess if you are already gonna desynth 5 things... might as well switch to a class that can use the exp
warped nest
You should naturally complete some of these challenges
They are easy exp to get in most cases
ripe hound
Yeah, I think I just forget to notice most of them, and completed them with my max level jobs too much
Challenge log resets weekly right?
twilit arch
yep
ripe hound
If you don't know how to use Living shadow, you just throw it out right?
jade quartz
You just throw it out anyway ngl
It’s a glorified DoT
Use on cooldown unless there’s gonna be downtime
ripe hound
Yeah, I always thought it was just a dot,
Then this saying on reddit: "It's a 1800 potency OGCD DoT on a tank that can also AOE"
jade quartz
That’s accurate
ripe hound
Yeah it suddenly looks like a lot more damage
warped nest
Just make sure dots ticks all the way
faint galleon
Hii >.< do u guys know how to unlock a chocobo permit? im level 21 but i dont know how to do it
warped nest
Or to their cutoff point
jade quartz
!faq mounts
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faint galleon
thank yoouuu
ripe hound
Also how does the summon target? I mean Living shadow?
warped nest
Take note that when people say "lvl 20 to get stuff"
ripe hound
If the first target dies, what does he do?
faint galleon
ohhh thank you very much
gusty storm
zzz do dps queue times get better later on
ripe hound
Target another random target closeby?
I think dps queue gets better once you no longer queue for stuff
warped nest
It is auto afaik
jade quartz
@gusty storm not really
ripe hound
Like Extreme and Savage stuff
gusty storm
doomed
warped nest
15-25 minutes are standard for dps
ripe hound
kk
jade quartz
I’m... not sure what its priority is then actually
gusty storm
no cool healers and queue times are annoying to deal with so i guess ill play a tank
ripe hound
It's definitely worth using in trash pulls right?
warped nest
A there are more DPS jobs than tank/healer, so if someone is grinding different jobs, it is very likely that they will be doing dps
jade quartz
Yes
ripe hound
Like the shadow will throw out all his skills in order
Abyssal Drain > Plunge > Quietus > Flood of Shadow > Edge of Shadow > Bloodspiller > Carve and Spit
jade quartz
Yep
warped nest
B new players tend to lean toward Dps, because they assume Dps has less responsibility
ripe hound
If something dies, he'll just select another target and keep using skills
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ripe hound
Yeah, I have to say I don't really like how there are much less tank and healers than DPS classes
ripe hound
I mean there are like 3 more DPS than Tanks and Healers combined
I like playing Tanks and healers!
jade quartz
Oh that’s totally what brings such a large number of players to dps
This goes for any trinity MMO really
ripe hound
But yeah, DPS do often feel less stressful sometimes
Like I do sometimes find myself queueing for Lv 80 / Expert roulette with DPS because I want to be more brain dead
Also is there a particular reason Diadem is an "instance" kind of thing instead of another zone?
Because it kind of feels like it's made into an "instanse" just so that you can't farm it when DPS queuing
Like, Diadem is the perfect activity for DPS queuing
jade quartz
Well it’s the remnants of what used to be a large-scale combat instance which was a a massive flop
jade quartz
Being an instance also lets folks from across the datacentre chat there
ripe hound
I never did either of them
jade quartz
Eureka was fairly successful
ripe hound
So I don't really know the big difference between Diadem and Eureka
jade quartz
Controversial among players early on but had rewards that made people play
And by pyros most folks were enjoying it
Diadem was just
ripe hound
My biggest complain for Eureka is that you can't level in it. And I was playing near the end of 4.x, so there are no reason to farm the gears.
jade quartz
Aimless grinding
ripe hound
I kind of wish for Newreka, you can level classes in it
jade quartz
You can
ripe hound
And your power potency depends on the inside level
jade quartz
That’s already been announced for Bozja (The new exploration content)
ripe hound
Nice
But basically, Diadem is 3.x Exploration, Eureka is 4.x Exploration, and Bozja is 5.x Exploration (not yet released)
jade quartz
Yep
ripe hound
But since Diadem isn't popular, they reworked it to an exclusively gathering area in.. 5.2?
jade quartz
The concept being refined further each time
jade quartz
They tried remaking it once before but it was still unsuccessful
The current diadem is the third iteration of diadem
ripe hound
Hun, when was that remake you talked about?
jade quartz
No to your last question
ripe hound
Something that happened in 4.x?
jade quartz
Uhh 3.55
ripe hound
kk
But yeah, so for now, Diadem is Gatherer only, Eureka is Combat only
Bozja might be Combat + Gatherer?
jade quartz
Nah
ripe hound
Still combat only?
jade quartz
Combat only
ripe hound
kk
But yeah, to be honest there really isn't any reason Diadem needs to be an instance now
faint flare
It does for the duty action
jade quartz
Allows large number of people from across the datacentre to shitpost in there
Which is nice
ripe hound
Like a special grenade that drops randomly while you mine
Can only be used in Diadem to destroy a single thing
Something like that
But yeah, I just really wanted to be able to DPS Queue while Diademing
I don't even dislike Diadem farming, I find it quite a Zen experience
But really want to be bale to DPS queue
granite swan
BLU Mage Spell - Devour - Question on getting it, does someone need to die to learn it, or do you just need to see someone get sucked into the stomach?
raw solstice
nobody needs to die, getting sucked in is fine
granite swan
ok thanks
raw solstice
all that ever needs to happen is for the cast to complete, to be able to learn the spell
granite swan
i guess our RNG is just abysmal, we done this like 20 times and no learn yet lol
granite swan
How do we synch with only 2 ppl tho?
faint flare
Get 2 others
granite swan
thats a huge pita tryin to wait around for 2 others >.>
faint flare
Throw up PF and advertise spell learning, let anyone join
calm phoenix
How can I report to heavenswhere.com that they have incorrect coordinates for aether currents? They claim that a current is at the Dravanian Hinterlands at coordinates 33.0 and 23.0 but there is no aether current anywhere near there. This is ground level and there is nothing up or down. They have misinformation and I do not see a "contact us" or anything
strange coral
Their about page has a feedback link
I doubt it's wrong though, currents are in the same place they have been for years now
vocal shell
are you sure theres none?
warped nest
A what does your compass said
B maybe you got it before and you forgot about it?
C Hinterland or Foreland
D what does other website says?
calm phoenix
I searched all around the area. The compass is also confused as hell too. I can use it twice at the same spot and it would give me 20 or so yalms in a random direction. It does not help that there are monsters in the area who can take off a fourth of your health in a single blow despite them being eight levels lower than me
vocal shell
show a screenshot
calm phoenix
West is outside the building and there is nothing that way
faint flare
Its inside the building, direct centre next to a wall on a pile of rubble
shell dagger
You need to go further in
That's the worse one to get in that entire region unfortunately, because of the mobs
And how close together they spawn
warped nest
can take off a fourth of your health in a single blow despite them being eight levels lower than me
Side note: job level enable you to wear better stuff, which improve your bulk. A lvl 80 wearing nothing is almost the same as a lvl 1 defense wise
calm phoenix
I am wearing level 60 gear average ilv172.
remote lintel
you can get shire gear
calm phoenix
No clue where
remote lintel
idyllshire
calm phoenix
I have two pieces already from silver Chocobo feathers in Limsa
three counting the Grimoire
calm phoenix
There is an NPC in Limsa who sells them for feathers as well
shell dagger
Did you get your aether current, Moltres?
calm phoenix
No. I died due to all the mobs ganging up on me
shell dagger
Ah. Then I think you should visit Idyllshire first
calm phoenix
It is only those goblins in and around that building causing me trouble
faint flare
Get to Idyllshire, shire will give you a massive boost and you wony have to worry about the mobs
calm phoenix
Yes
shell dagger
Follow those red arrows I just drew to go to Idyllshire
Forget the aether currents for now
Just run past the mobs
strange coral
Nothing of what?
zinc orbitBOT
faint flare
You're probably in the post patch quests
shell dagger
Then deck yourself out with Augmented Shire gear by visiting this lady in the gigantic building in Idyllshire - @calm phoenix
oak smelt
just saw this little dude in the rising stones. is he related to one of the NPCs or does he just hang there?
am i just noticing it late?
faint flare
Randomly hangs out, all nod to thancred ||Whenever he shows up naked, a nutkin covers him||
oak smelt
||i am sad. i havent seen even a single naked thancred yet||
faint flare
You'll see
oak smelt
thank god.
calm phoenix
Who do I talk to to buy gear with poetics?
shell dagger
Scroll up, Moltres
faint flare
You were just shown by ari
shell dagger
I responded to you
You can't miss her, as there's a gigantic counter in that large white building smack in the middle of the city
calm phoenix
The gigantic building leads to more outdoor stuff and nothing like the picture
shell dagger
Screenshot please
little swift
are you in idyllshire
not the dravanian hinterlands
idyllshire
its north of the hinterlands
calm phoenix
strange coral
frigid cedar
Is it still possible to get a Wind-Up Suzaku?
faint flare
Have to be 80
ripe hound
awww
calm phoenix
Now my gear just automatically glamoured to stuff I did not want and now I cannot remove the glam. It looks ugly
ripe hound
Doesn't it queue for coils?
shell dagger
Glam plates, my friend.
faint flare
Glamour dispellers
shell dagger
And that ^
calm phoenix
BUT IT REMOVED MY DYE TOO!! NOT COOL EXPENSIVE DYE
shell dagger
ok it is bedtime for me. take care and hope you find your aether currents, moltres. hopefully while decked out in augmented shire gear ok
🙏🏻👋🏻
faint flare
If you dyed it in the glamour dresser it still has it
calm phoenix
I manually died it
ashen pendant
So crafting classes, are they important to do? Why?
faint flare
Entirely optional
proud willow
Crafting kinda isn't worth doing if it's just a means to an end, but it's great if you enjoy crafting
ashen pendant
fair enough, tbh i don't know how this game's economy is like for me to have that assertation
faint flare
It lets you self meld, self repair, make your own consumables and stuff
And naturally money
slate arrow
money from the lazy
ashen pendant
I mean is money important end game?
slate arrow
if you have crafters and gatherers leveled; no
*unless you're lazy
Everything you can gather and obtain without gil
besides housing, but that's another thing altogether
ashen pendant
so there isn't like an expensive end game economy where u need 1 billion gil in order to augment gear
faint flare
No
Augmenting gear is done via raids
And the upgrade items they drop
Or in the case of crafted gear: tomes
slate arrow
The endgame gear economy is based around skipping normal raid grinding to be savage ready
crafted HQ gear will equal Normal Raid gear stats
and isn't weekly limited
ashen pendant
hmmm ok gotchu
calm phoenix
Wow! Being capped on poetics and still not enough to get the accessories
warped nest
You can get crafted HQ gear made in probably around... I want to say 3-4 hours depending on how you set it up
So what happened is while the team prog the first and second fight
The crafter/Gatherer they commissioned get the new gears made and ready for them for the third and forth fight
calm phoenix
What do I use these for?
calm phoenix
Any use for me now? Or should I MB it?
faint flare
No use unless you want the replicas as glamour
white sierra
So I'm at the crystal sand and umbrite step as of now for my anima and I'm so lost as to how to go about it.. please help
faint flare
!iglam replica dreadwyrm robe of casting
zinc orbitBOT
Images of glamour items by Gamer Escape.
faint flare
Stuff like this @calm phoenix
jade quartz
@white sierra buy umbrite with poetics, trade various items for crystal sand with Ulan
The best option is generally Rowena’s tokens (blue) bought with yellow crafter and gatherer scrips. If you don’t have crafters and gatherers, you can try the leve amber-encased vilekin method, or trading unidentifiable items bought with poetics
calm phoenix
That required a high level crafter I take it?
jade quartz
Nah like 60
calm phoenix
I do like the dragon wing
white sierra
My highest crafter is weaver at 23...
fiery urchin
Hello, I apologize if this is not allowed to be asked but I was wondering if there's a plugin I can use alongside with ACT that would beep or something when a debuff I inflict is about to expire?
slate arrow
cactbot, I think?
nvm
cactbot does not have that
you could program your own ACT triggers for them
plain python
outside of item level sync dungeons, do higher ilv makes level-only synced run faster?
slate arrow
yes since the sync is actually a little higher than the item level you get at that level
faint flare
Yes, as level sync syncs your gear to the highest ilvl possible of that era
slate arrow
or level, in the case of leveling roulette
faint flare
Which is why castrum, praetorium and cape westwind are push overs
warped nest
???
slate arrow
GCD or oGCD
warped nest
Huh
wooden ginkgo
gcd
warped nest
Monk
faint flare
Monk
slate arrow
MNK with Greased Lightning 4
tulip plover
Can we get hiens outfit
slate arrow
mogstation
tulip plover
:(
obsidian patio
Samurai and ninja sit around 2-2.1 second GCD
tulip plover
Damn everything on there cost too damn much
white sierra
Is this a decent plan for doing crystal sand step of anima? the plan, I'm gonna do story and do roulettes daily until I unlock ishgardian restoration, then I bum rush my crafter and use tomestones if I cap, then use crafter to get scripts and get crystal sand
slate arrow
@wooden ginkgo Monk, Ninja, and Samurai all have speed buffs which boost GCD speeds a fair amount
tulip plover
Do you only have to worry about sks at 80?
slate arrow
no
you also have crit, dhit, and determination
for the most part you only SkS until a comfy GCD in between burst windows
tulip plover
Oh sorry i meant just specifically sks
Like i know that crit a det take priority but but focusing on increasing sks is at 80 right?
slate arrow
to a comfy tier yeah
tulip plover
Ok
slate arrow
for example, with SAM you want to be able to get a specific number of GCDs in between tsubeme windows
tulip plover
Cuz i plan on doing the hardest content
faint flare
You need to consider all stats
Like indust said, some jobs have a minimum amount of sks they need for rotations
ripe hound
Are there still weekly limits on puppet's bunker?
faint flare
Yes
ripe hound
kk
tulip plover
And also you just need the entry lvl 80 gear for savage right?
faint flare
Which currently is done via neo ishgardian easily
tulip plover
And you need to meld to be effecient?
glad comet
yes
ripe hound
I'm trying to get myself less afraid of tanking
glad comet
tanking isn't scary at all
ripe hound
I'm gonna try to do Puppet Bunker as Tank this week
glad comet
you pop tank stance
ripe hound
Queue was surpsingly fast
glad comet
and attack
glad comet
and then you pop the occasional cooldown
ripe hound
Trail by battle?
ripe hound
in NA it's trail by combat?
glad comet
NA is A, I think.
slate arrow
For the most part it's pretty smart to just have tank stance on unless it's one mob with positionals on their target circle
Puppets Bunker Boss 1 for example has no autos and no positionals
plain python
is there a class that when you use a skill, it reduces cooldown of a long-cooldown skill?
ocean flower
Hi all, where is the vendor for lvl 70+ crafter accessories? Just hit 70 on gsm today and started dwarf tribe quests
slate arrow
@plain python Machinist with Heat Blast and Gauss Round/Ricochet
@ocean flower make them yourself
ripe hound
after starting the countdown our SAM immedietly pulled...
Before the countdown went off...
slate arrow
🤡
ocean flower
@slate arrow still would like to know if there is a vendor
jade quartz
Puppets bunker boss 1 has autos on all three tanks
slate arrow
@ocean flower scrip gear from the scrip vendors
They don't really sell crafter or gatherer accessories for gil after ARR
sweet leaf
if i enter a dungeon or change a class, does a treasure map i have open disappear completely? because i can't find it
slate arrow
key items
whole wasp
no, its still open
sweet leaf
ty
whole wasp
its just the HUD window that is closed
ocean flower
there were vendors in kugane for 60+, not sure why they wouldn't with 70+
whole wasp
try crystarium market
slate arrow
For gear or accessories? I don't recall seeing accessories anywhere
i might also be dumb
whole wasp
not sure about accessories. i wore 70 scrip gear until 80 and crafted my own lignum vitae
ocean flower
thanks @whole wasp
raven sage
Vendors for accessories stop at least by 70
strange coral
The jeweler in Kugane sells level 70 accessories
sweet leaf
so this was my first treasure map, are these rewards normal, bad, or good?
remote lintel
if you didnt roll for them theyre not that special
sweet leaf
oh and a red landtrap leaf
sweet leaf
ok. what do you mean by roll for them?
jade quartz
Yeah that’s a bad map
sweet leaf
but i'm not in a party
jade quartz
Like need/greed
slate arrow
you want the party maps
jade quartz
Oh well nothing amazing comes from solo maps
sweet leaf
there's 8 man maps????
zinc orbitBOT
sweet leaf
how do those even work?
jade quartz
Yeah well you can do them with 3+ people
slate arrow
you defeat the mobs
remote lintel
you dont need all 8 people
jade quartz
Don’t really need 8
remote lintel
just get some friends
slate arrow
there's a chance for a dungeon to open upon completion
said dungeon has even more loot
sweet leaf
ahh. is it possible with just 2? i don't really party up with anyone other than my SO unless we queue for a duty
slate arrow
yes, but it'll be slow
remote lintel
use PF
slate arrow
you'll also have a hard time tackling rare mob spawns in map dungeons
jade quartz
2 is possible but very slow and can be dicey
remote lintel
dungeons are lots of rng
rng on which door is correct
rng if you see special monsters pop up
rng if you get all the way to the end
tidal osprey
can i farm mount with undersized and unsynced party?
slate arrow
yes
jade quartz
That’s the usual way
slate arrow
yes
gloomy ice
Recompense officer although that's like the same thing.
tulip plover
What class repairs things
gloomy ice
Each crafting class repairs a different kind of gear. Each piece will tell you which crafter you need.
queen flame
Yo, can I do dungeons with less than 4 ppl?
tidal yoke
Yes
queen flame
How?
queen flame
Ok
tidal yoke
w/undersized parties you don't level sync and thus don't get exp for each enemy kill
tidal yoke
You still get completion experience and loot drops, but no exp on every enemy kill
remote lintel
which menu is the yokai watch under in calamity salvager
faint flare
Recompense officer
remote lintel
oh
keen fable
Is there a way to import my gear sets and hud from my old computer
ripe hound
Was there a time in 2.0 / 2.1 where the 24 man have 2 tanks on each party?
keen fable
I don't currently have access to it atm
ripe hound
I don't know if it's my memory being funny but I think I remember doing 24 mans with 6 tanks
gloomy ice
Labyrinth of the Ancients once had the standard comp, yes. It was the only one to do that however and was retroactively changed to be more in line with the others.
ripe hound
Yeah
I just did Puppet Bunker
First time as a tank
I feel like I'm tanking wrong though
Like I'm B tank
And this C tank just keep fights with me for aggro
polar hound
dont fight for aggro in 24mans.
ripe hound
Yeah
polar hound
worry about your adds/group
whole wasp
if they really want to MT, i usually just give it to them
polar hound
A on the left, B in the center, C on the right is general rule of thumb
polar hound
yea just intercept a big one
all 3 cast the paralyze aoe and can be interrupted, the giant ones
ripe hound
kk
polar hound
interject sorry but ykno what i mean
ripe hound
Yeah
earnest imp
How tf do I get to diadem?
remote lintel
talk to the guy on the left side that probably has <diadem> in his name
earnest imp
Well that helps but where
remote lintel
the left side of the area at the north stall
polar hound
firmament
remote lintel
yeah at the firmament
faint flare
No
earnest imp
Probably not then
remote lintel
"towards the firmament"
faint flare
Unlocks in ishgard
white crescent
Hello - I am a lvl 52 black mage (first job) and am only on Its Possibly a Primal MSQ, which is. 2.1 patch MSQ and it looks like there are tons of MSQs before heavensward MSQ. So it seems like I will be way ahead - what do you guys think of me starting Red Mage and doing most of the MSQ as red mage then I can switch back to black mage closer to heavensward MSQ? I don’t want to too far out lvl the quests
earnest imp
Off to ishgard I go
faint flare
You'll barely get any xp from the post patch quests, you'll get like 1 level
white crescent
Oh okay
whole wasp
its doesnt really matter that much. solo-instances and dungeons sync your levels so you cant really outlevel them
if you want make a RDM to soak the exp, thats fine too
ripe hound
Not a bad idea I would say
polar hound
^^ although id recommend you try maybe a healer or tank personally
ripe hound
RDM can also soak the HW exp
whole wasp
if you enjoy playing BLM, its totally fine to just stay BLM to the end
polar hound
but rdm will start higher too
white crescent
For queue times? 😛
earnest imp
Lmao dps queues will always suck buddy
polar hound
yeah that and to start understanding how other roles work in the game
ripe hound
Also I prefer soaking msq exp with dps
white crescent
Ah yeah
polar hound
not a bad tool to have as you do more group content imo anyways 🙂
ripe hound
But yeah, understanding how every role work is important
Like my current understanding of tanking is where the tank that have higher DPS can keep the aggro and be a main tank 
Which is a really really bad understanding
earnest imp
Very bad lmao
I played a tank for 52 levels and still have no idea what I’m supposed to do besides pop tank stance and make sure my dps don’t die
ripe hound
"It's not about being right or wrong, good or bad. It's about making a statement."
gloomy ice
Congratulations you're already several steps ahead, if you have that part down.
ripe hound
Yeah that's basically the experience of fighting to be the Alpha Tank
gloomy ice
Not being sarcastic either. That's the most important aspect of tanking.
ripe hound
Yeah, that's about it
white crescent
If I switch to a tank or healer I’ll be starting at lvl 1 right ? What’s the quickest way to level a 2nd combat job ?
ripe hound
Dungeon tanking is just Tank Stance -> Mitigation -> Aoe Aoe
remote lintel
expansion jobs dont start at lvl 1
faint flare
!faq altlvlguide
zinc orbitBOT
ripe hound
However, base jobs do begin at lv 1
remote lintel
but i guess you can't be dark knight or gunbreaker or astro yet
earnest imp
Gun breaker starts at 60, but you won’t be there for a while
remote lintel
marauder, arcanist, and conjurer start at 1