#questions-and-help

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marble drift
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My statics astro used to want an 18 second countdown

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I believe with the 5.3 changes that is no longer the case

obsidian patio
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yeah all asts want 30 seconds now due to sleeve draw change

agile laurel
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yeah for an opener divination you need 30sec for the CD of draw

proven bay
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I mean, does it matter how long the countdown is? Are people going to be 5_FeelsRRREEE if I put it at 30 seconds?

proud willow
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in casual content, possibly yeah

obsidian patio
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if you don't have an ast in the group then just go with 15 seconds

cerulean grove
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where do i find the pet summoning ability? i used the whistle

obsidian patio
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for dungeons I just go with 15 regardless or just not bother with a timer

cerulean grove
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or mount i mean

proud willow
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when there is no danger that being suboptimal will cause you to hit enrage, a longer timer is just making the instance longer

obsidian patio
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Character > Mount Guide

proud willow
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feels good to be optimal, but feels ain't reals

cerulean grove
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ty

proven bay
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Do mouseover macros work like regular abilities if you use a keybind instead of the mouse over?

marble drift
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are you under the impression that "mouse-over macros" trigger when you simply mouse over the skill?

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because thats not a thing

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you put your mouse on a player and hit the bind and its target will be whatever your mouse is hovering over at the time of key press

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player or place I suppose

open coral
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^ this basically.

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Mouseover macros simply eliminate the need to physically click on your target, not the need to press the ability button.

leaden ginkgo
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If I’m on balmung and my friends on goblin can I craft them gear or no?

agile laurel
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yes

obsidian patio
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they're on the same datacenter so yes

marble drift
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heh. if they actually worked like I described in the first situation the best ability rotation would just be whoevers better at osu!

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XD

proven bay
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Oh, yeah I misunderstood then

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So if I don't mouse over someone then that means I use the ability on myself as I normally would

marble drift
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-casually moves mouse over your abilties-

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POP ALL THE THINGS!

open coral
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Yes, not having your mouse over a target would automatically default to the default target (you) for "help" abilities and would trigger the "no valid target" error for "harm" abilities.

proven bay
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Okay, thanks AYAYA

leaden ginkgo
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How do I unlock dungeons in the duty finder?

shrewd owl
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some are blue quests, some are unlocked through MSQ

spiral idol
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oh man

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how am I gonna contiinue the msq if I cant find party for crystal tower

leaden ginkgo
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Ah ok, thanks. Only done the MSQ and novice halls so far and I’m almost lvl 18, and still dont have any dungeons unlocked 🤷‍♂️ I’ll keep plugging away at it

warped nest
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It is very bad hours now in NA

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Also, are you making a PF or just waiting in Duty Finder?

spiral idol
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I only play at these times mm

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duty finder

warped nest
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And how long have you waited

glossy flare
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Ah ok, thanks. Only done the MSQ and novice halls so far and I’m almost lvl 18, and still dont have any dungeons unlocked 🤷‍♂️ I’ll keep plugging away at it
@leaden ginkgo You'll get 3 dungeons back to back soon

warped nest
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What is your Duty finder language setting? And which data center? (NA, EU, or JP)

spiral idol
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NA

leaden ginkgo
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@glossy flare sweet, thanks

glossy flare
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Downside of those 3 dungeons is that they are super boring 😄

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But hey, it's something

open coral
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Your first dungeon is at the level 15 MSQ "It's Probably Pirates" @leaden ginkgo

spiral idol
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maybe its time to move to tonberry lmao

open coral
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The first three dungeons are just tutorial dungeons, of course they're a little boring.

leaden ginkgo
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@open coral not far off then, my MSQ is lvl 13 atm

open coral
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Yep, you're pretty close!

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tall grove
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I stopped around lvl 46 towards the end of ARR and wanted to know if I also had to buy shadowbringers to play all of the other expansions

open coral
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You can play both ARR and HW content without purchasing Shadowbringers (which includes Stormblood)

tall grove
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ok cool, thanks!

spiral idol
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I have been waiting for

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uh

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12 mins

open coral
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As what role?

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If dps, then that's not too bad for 24-man content.

spiral idol
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healer

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...

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thats why I am complaining

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lmao

open coral
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And honestly for NA at this hour (between 4:30-7:30am) you've got to expect longer times.

wintry chasm
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Tbh Aura DPS probably have it the fastest for 24-mans

tidal yarrow
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alliance raids takes a lot to fill at this time of the day

wintry chasm
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Also yeah go to sleep Alex

tidal yarrow
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i play on this hours on NA server and yeah that's tough

spiral idol
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I am ini SEA

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its 6:30 pm

glossy flare
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I remember waiting about half an hour for each Crystal Tower floor as a tank

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So yeah, it just be like that

wintry chasm
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You're on a NA server according to your role @spiral idol

spiral idol
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yes

open coral
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@spiral idol Yes, but if you're on NA servers, you're dealing with NA time.

spiral idol
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Imma just level up DoL

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while waiting

open coral
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And in NA it's between 4:30am (west coast) and 7:30am (east coast).

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Best case scenario, you'll get a group in under 30 minutes. Worst case, you should try again around reset in 3.5 hours.

spiral idol
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yeah IImma hve to wait

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it just sucks that I have to do this

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before going to HW

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honestly grinded 12 hours of MSQ for HW today

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and I got locked

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just really bummed

glossy flare
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the raids are nice though

open coral
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The story payoff is worth it

glossy flare
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and the nerfs mean a lot of mechanics can be skipped, so it's not too hard either

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it's a fun ride

open coral
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Except for WoD because Angra Mainyu

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And also Cerberus

glossy flare
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yeah 😄

proven bay
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@spiral idol You're gonna struggle with queues on NA regardless of what content you're doing. You're literally half a day ahead of NA

glossy flare
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WoD is the coolest of them all tho

proven bay
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I suggest transferring to a server with less of a time difference

karmic niche
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jp have a lot of sea

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if you have good internet i heard you can get below 100 ping

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*SEA

open coral
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Yes, time-wise JP servers are the best for SEA/OCE players.

karmic niche
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but oce player struggle with ping

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because some of our provider just doesn't route to SEA properly

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some can get below 200 ping in both NA and JP while other have NA below 200 and JP above 200

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like me, i am playing in NA atm because of my ping lol

spiral idol
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I have 300 ping

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to JP

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200 ping to NA

karmic niche
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yeah, like i said if you have a good internet you can get good ping in JP

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i heard someone get 30 ping or something similar in Philippine lol

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idk if that guy bs or not

leaden ginkgo
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Hey, Quick thing, i'm currently trying to make some collectables, i'm a 61 Carpenter, but i cannot find the Collectable Synthesis anywhere, the entire MSQ is done and The Inscrutable Tastes is done aswell, am i missing something ?

obsidian patio
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Collectable synthesis as an action doesn’t exist anymore

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You now just craft the collectables and it automatically becomes one

leaden ginkgo
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Oh my god i've struggling on this for the past 30 minutes on stream ....

obsidian patio
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If you haven’t done collectables in 5.3 yet they’re in their own category of the special recipe menu

leaden ginkgo
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THank you

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So much

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yeah last collectables i did was on 5.1 ^^'

obsidian patio
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There’s also no daily rotation of collectables anymore, all the items in the subsection can be turned in at any time

exotic ridge
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Im running a machinist, where is the best place to find armour 50+

obsidian patio
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Though only the level 80 one gives white scrips now

exotic ridge
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and rings and stuff cos mine a really low

obsidian patio
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!faq poetics

zinc orbitBOT
obsidian patio
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Get i130 ironworks gear in exchange with poetics

exotic ridge
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im 50..

obsidian patio
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And ironworks is the best gear you can get at 50.

leaden ginkgo
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i130 is its Item level

obsidian patio
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Once you hit 50 and past that the item level of equipment goes above the actual level of the item

exotic ridge
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I went to mor dhona but it didnt seem to have my stuff listed for MCH

obsidian patio
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Current endgame level 80 gear for example, is i500

tawdry otter
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@obsidian patio i found the option to change it the language: contacts > right click on your name > edit profile

obsidian patio
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Auriana should have the ironworks equipment, with Aelina having the weapon

heady orbit
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Why all my msq rewards are for PLD ,WAR?

exotic ridge
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Is it aiming im after?

obsidian patio
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Yes

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@heady orbit there’s a lot of different gear types for each set of classes so sometimes a quest may not give something that your current class can use

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If that’s the case then pick any of the equipment and either save it for leveling up that class or sell it on the marketboard with your retainer.

exotic ridge
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how to earn poetics on a alt?

obsidian patio
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Run Level 50/60/70 content

heady orbit
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Im free trial so i pick gil

exotic ridge
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ok thx

obsidian patio
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Main Scenario Roulette gives 500/600 poetics for 30-40 minutes of easy effort

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Alliance Raid and 50/60/70 roulettes are also good daily sources of poetics

plain python
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how do you unlock moogle, leviathan and ramuh?

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clearing all extreme raids of ifrit, garuda and titan?

obsidian patio
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Nah, shouldn’t need to.

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Moogle/Leviathan/Shiva should be from urianger in the waking sands

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With Ramuh from an NPC near the twin adder GC

open coral
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That's assuming you've completed the (Hard) versions through the MSQ first.

plain python
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still have odin uncleared cuz of item level

open coral
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Odin nobody queues for. Just wait until you outlevel the fight, then unsync it

plain python
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what dungeons does duty roulette: main scenario consist of?

open coral
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Castrum Meridianum and Praetorium

plain python
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super long dungeons with unskipable cutscene 😮

open coral
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Yes, but the xp and poetics can be worth it.

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They're both worth up to a level and a half pre-60, and about 1/2 level after that with the daily roulette bonus.

plain python
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I get stuck at lv60 for a while, but 500 poetic/days doesn't sound bad 😮

open coral
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It's worth it especially if you're trying to gear up an alt job (although it's pretty good for main jobs too if you don't mind outleveling the MSQ)

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Between MSQ roulette, Alliance raid roulette, and 50/60/70 roulette you can easily get about 1k poetics per day.

karmic niche
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is hard to queue alliance lol

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i take forever

open coral
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Not if you're queueing at normal times it's not.

karmic niche
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even on normal time

plain python
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can ironwork put in armoire?

open coral
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Not in armoire, no

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But you can put it in the glamour dresser

plain python
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lv58 with an ironwork weapon now. Should I save poetic for lv60 shire or whatever?

open coral
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What level is your MSQ?

plain python
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51?

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after ultima weapon

open coral
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Then no. Spend poetics to get more Ironworks gear.

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You'll easily get enough to buy the Shire gear by the time you get to Idyllshire in the MSQ.

plain python
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noce

cerulean grove
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Whats the best place to look for a newbie friendly EU guild?

open coral
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Main cities on your server.

cerulean grove
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ahh ty

plain sky
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I just unlocked Astrologian, but I can't equip the class item because it says I need to change to Astrolgian first?? How do I do that?

plain python
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you need the soul item?

median locust
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Equip the weapon

plain sky
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oh...

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lol

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thank you

median locust
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And make sure you do have the soul stone

plain sky
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I thought i had to equip the stone

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not the weapon xD

median locust
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yeah, you change classes by switching main hands

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soul stone may or may not follow

plain sky
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yeah the stone applied itself

open coral
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For expansion jobs (AST, DRK, MCH, RDM, SAM, GNB, DNC, BLU) the soul stone will be automatically equipped when you equip the appropriate main arm.

plain python
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soul item is a bit odd. Is there an upgraded version of it with stat or something?

median locust
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No, it's just flavor I guess

open coral
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Soul stones are a legacy function.

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Lore-wise they're simply an item that contains the memory of one or more individuals who previously held them and who had the associated job, which can impart knowledge to the bearer on how to be that job.

plain sky
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is it possible to make the party window show without someone being in it?

open coral
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You should be able to set that in your Display Settings, iirc.

marble drift
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Real question

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are you wanting to move it?

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or is there some other reason you want to see it all the time?

plain sky
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I just want it to show while I'm setting up some UI stuff

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I want to align something to it

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but I'm by myself

marble drift
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bring out your chocobo

plain sky
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I realise I can see the border

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I don't have a lettuce lol

marble drift
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go get one

open coral
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If you're in the HUD editor, the element should appear regardless of whether you have an active party or not.

marble drift
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they're vendor buyable

plain sky
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yeah but I don't want to align in to the bars

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I want to align it to the class icon

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what vendor

open coral
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Any general goods vendor

marble drift
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best one I know is several steps from the gridania aetheryte

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just around the corner

plain sky
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lmao I've literally never spoken to a vendor, it's giving me the tutorial stuff...

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plain sky
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im at the area where that mini game thing is

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the quary?

open coral
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Quarrymill?

plain sky
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I'll go to gridania... lol, can't find one at all

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yeah

open coral
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There should be an Independent Merchant or a Merchant and Mender there.

plain sky
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found one 😄

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perfect! thanks lol

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it's only showing my pet though, that's lame

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but it'll work

open coral
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You can actually set your Display Settings for your HUD to always show the party list.

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It should be in Character Settings, I think

plain sky
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mmm had a look around

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can't see it

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might be blind though

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another question... is there a cheat sheet on what cards I should cast on who when playing an astrologian?

median locust
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There's a different outline color based on who they buff, on the class hud

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But...
Balance, Spear, Arrow -> Melee DPS
Spire, Ewer, Bole -> Ranged or Caster DPS

plain sky
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fuck, I don't know what the class symbols mean yet... how am I supposed to know who is melee vs ranged lol

wispy parcel
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Honestly theres rarely a reason to not cast what you have

plain sky
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just looking at the class items anyway

median locust
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Gotta learn em

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It's a useful thing to know

marble drift
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melee

open coral
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Class symbols are basically just rote memorization

faint flare
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The job gauge has a colour board around each card

median locust
faint flare
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As well for the role

plain sky
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I need to mod the class textures with colours of what the cards are 😛

wispy parcel
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Class symbols are something you really need to know by heart

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Especially as a healer

plain sky
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sure, give me more than a weekend of playing them and I'll start to learn them 😅

plain python
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I remember an option that tone down other players' sound effects, but forget where it is D:

marble drift
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Reyn you shouldn't rely on mods and stuff in this game

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FFXIV is basically 1 big memory test

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its not WoW. DBM won't be here to just do the fight for you

wispy parcel
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plus modding the game is against ToS

plain sky
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somehow I think a couple of texture mods will be fine lol

wispy parcel
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So if you do it you really shouldnt talk about it

marble drift
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Its more that it sets bad habits

plain python
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if you take screenshots of modded game, you have to make sure nothing visiable that can trace back to your character name or account

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so beware

open coral
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Using skins to modify or recolor your UI isn't typically enforced.

median locust
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plenty of streamers play with HUD skins on

plain sky
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^

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it's kinda silly to be worried about that stuff

median locust
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it's still not allowed

plain sky
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there's a streamer I follow and have for ages

median locust
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but yeah

wispy parcel
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Yea its just dont talk about using mods ingame

plain sky
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with a minimal hud mod

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and there's ACT

marble drift
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I couldn't give a hoot about the ToS and its legalities in this matter

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its more.

wispy parcel
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Its only enforced if you talk about it in ingame chat

marble drift
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Why?

plain sky
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it literally just parses log text

marble drift
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Why mod in something to prevent you having to remember what class is what

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when you could just...remember

plain sky
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because those kinds of things can help you learn

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???

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it's like using flash cards to learn a new language

marble drift
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so can just practice?

plain sky
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you wont ALWAYS need the flash cards

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but they help you practice

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work smart, not hard

marble drift
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Ok sure but when you do that for everything and those texture mods break one day and you can't remember whats what

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Its all on you

plain sky
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I will take that risk

wispy parcel
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Texture mods usually break every patch

plain sky
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yep

smoky glade
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might break your game too

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that seems awfully unnecessary but eh your choice

plain sky
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nothing that can't be undone or tweaked

jade lava
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hey i just started on the free trial as a conjurer, i don't really know what i'm doing, could someone point me to a guide for stuff like gear progression or some general tips to handle stuff like that?

wispy parcel
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All the gear you need is gotten just through doing MSQ

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Actual gear progression doesnt really start until endgame

plain sky
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and there's always the "equip the best gear" button

plain python
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yeah just do the main quests. Ignore side quests unless you like to read text

wispy parcel
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Wait

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Blue side quests do those

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They unlock stuff

median locust
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good

plain python
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except it is called Levequest 😄

median locust
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can skip

plain sky
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not all of them lol

median locust
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yes all of them unlock something

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it's literally what the blue quest means

plain sky
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yeah I mean, don't do all of them lmao

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he'll be changing his class every time minutes

plain python
plain sky
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unless that's what he wants, but that doesnt sound like what he wants 😛

plain python
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I mean read the rewards

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some of them gives pets 😛

median locust
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it's a good idea to do all of them, except ones that say "So you want to be a [class]", then skip those

jade lava
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at level 30, what would you guys say is better for a beginner, astrologian or white mage?

median locust
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White Mage

plain sky
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WM is simply and boring

wispy parcel
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You cant be astro anyway

median locust
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Astrologian has a lot more to it

plain python
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white mage = just heal and heal more

wispy parcel
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You need to reach Ishgard first

median locust
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And yeah you need to reach level 50 and be in the first expansion to pick up Astrologian

jade lava
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yeah i know, but for when i can get it

plain sky
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maybe he's asking "at 30" because he just unlocked it

jade lava
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oh no i literally just started

plain sky
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you'll be about level 52 by the time you can unlock astroboy

wispy parcel
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@plain sky hey literally said he just started

plain sky
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yeah I mean, I "just started" on Friday

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and I just unlocked Astroboy

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so who knows what he means by just started lol

plain python
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what about scholar? :d

jade lava
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is astro more fun in your guys' opinion?

plain sky
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I find WHM brain numbingly boring

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WHM is pure Heals

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Healbot central

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the classic "preist" class

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astro is like a utility buff dealer and healer

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so you jungle heals and random buffs

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jungle? the fuck... juggle**

plain python
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pick a card

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any card

plain sky
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^

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and you get to have fancy card drawing animations

open rivet
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sidequest can have "optional" rewards as well like minions

plain python
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just check the reward first 😄

jade lava
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on free trial, will i still have a decent amount of content left by the time i get to astro?

plain python
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in 3 starter city at lv14, there are 3 sidequest that gives you dance emotes

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in aleport, there are two sidequest that gives you a dog and a cat

plain sky
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if by "content" you mean smashing your head against the wall because you want to know why on earth all this game is is pressing ESC and then 0 0 every two minutes

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then sure

plain python
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there should be still heavenwards content?

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leveling up crafter and gatherer

rotund sable
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Yeah there's still content idk what this guy's ranting about

smoky glade
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it's a whole expansion's worth of content

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  • catching up on the 20 levels
plain sky
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I'm just making a joke about how many cutscenes this game has chill out lmao

indigo basalt
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is there an active LS or discord group for hunting on Ragnarock?

plain python
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well, first-time cutscenes should be watched.

plain sky
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only if you care about the story

jade lava
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ok so i think i'll probably go WHM until i can get astro and then see how i like that

plain sky
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yeah you can always try both anyway

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so it's not like it's a choice you can't undo

jade lava
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how much bigger is the paid game than the free trial?

plain sky
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significantly bigger and better as far as I can tell

plain python
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just go ahead with WHM, get used to content. You will retrace the steps to level by the time you get Astro

wispy parcel
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The paid game is about 3 times as big

plain sky
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how exactly are you "supposed" to level when you unlock Astro as all the MSQ's are completed from 30-50?

wispy parcel
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Mainly cause of the latest content

plain python
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you hunt monsters log

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and daily dungeon routtle

wispy parcel
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Hunting log, Fates

plain sky
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ahh true

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forgot about the log

wispy parcel
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Spaming the highest level dungeon

agile laurel
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!faq altlvlguide

zinc orbitBOT
plain sky
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oh neat thanks

rotund sable
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Healer queues are instant so spamming dungeons isn't painful

jade lava
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does all the stuff in the paid game come after what i'd do in the free trial so i can just buy it when i've exhausted all the ft content?

plain sky
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yes

wispy parcel
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Stuff in the paid game comes after

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This is a heavily story based game

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So you have to do all the content in order

plain python
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about crystal and more crystal

rotund sable
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Unless you wanted to swap to expac classes at 50/60 it's fine

plain sky
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not that you have to pay attention to the story if you don't want to, it just means there's an order to things

jade lava
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what about stuff like the nier raid? is that going to be permanent?

wispy parcel
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I mean you kinda have to

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Yea its forever

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MSQ in mandatory

plain python
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2P or not 2P

wispy parcel
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Amd its pretty much the majority of the game

smoky glade
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the story is like 95% of the game

wispy parcel
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Yep

smoky glade
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like... why

plain sky
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not true, don't gatekeep

wispy parcel
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Its an FF game first

smoky glade
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it's not gatekeeping that's the whole point of the game

median locust
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Nier raid is permanent

wispy parcel
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Its not a gatekeep

plain sky
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if you like the mechanics and art style, you don't have to pay attention to the story

wispy parcel
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Thats literally what the game is

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Its mostly story

plain sky
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nothing stopping you from enjoying the MMO without the story

proven bay
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It's a final fantasy game first, and an MMO second. Story is the focal point

rotund sable
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He's not wrong you can do what you want

plain sky
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if it's what you're into then cool, if it's not then that's also cool

wispy parcel
#

Besides the several hundred hour long MSQ

median locust
#

It's possible to skip every cutscenes and still enjoy the game, just know you're basically missing out on 40% of the game lol

plain sky
#

yeah

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and plenty of people are okay with that

median locust
#

it's still a valid way to play

wispy parcel
#

Yea its just I wouldnt recommend going into the game soley for raiding, as the high tier raiding in XIV is quite limited compared to other MMOs

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12 Savage and 2 ultimates per expansion

plain sky
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honestly i just like the surroundings of an MMO

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having a character you work on

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not even necessarily playing with people all the time

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it's nice to just see others around you

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especially these days lol

plain python
#

how do you gear up crafter/gatherer in Mor Desa?

jade lava
#

how much does a 6 month subscription cost?

wispy parcel
#

168 hours of play

median locust
#

You lose the sprout when you reach the current expansion and have 7 days of game time

wispy parcel
#

The sprout goes away

plain sky
#

oh neat

plain python
#

you lose your first time

plain sky
#

the noob seal lol

median locust
#

!faq subcost

plain python
#

player status

zinc orbitBOT
#
Error!

No tag named subcost exists, Kupo!

slate trail
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are some fates not solo'able? came across this cyclops boss fate encounter

median locust
#

!faq subprice

zinc orbitBOT
#
Subscription Prices
median locust
#

derp

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Some fates are intented to have a party take them on yeah, some even give an achievement and/or a minion

slate trail
#

oh? i see

wispy parcel
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Boss fates usually arent solo-able

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Unless your a blue mage

jade lava
#

where do i actually get a subscription? do i just get the option once i buy the game?

median locust
#

It's in mogstation, yeah

wispy parcel
#

Its also where the overpriced as hell cash shop is

plain python
#

if a boss fate has an unusual music

median locust
#

Not anymore

plain python
#

they are harder to solo

median locust
#

The store is a different site now

faint flare
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Mogstation still does account stuff

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The store is for optional items

median locust
#

yeah just saying for the cash shop

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cause they said it was in mogstation

wispy parcel
#

Yea I usually go through the optional items tab so I thought it was the same site

jade lava
#

so once i upgrade to the complete edition, i get 30 days free and then i can buy 6 months of subscription?

wispy parcel
#

Yea

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surreal elm
#

If we dont use a parse, being under the tank for aggro is a good indication you are doing good dps?

wispy parcel
#

If the tank is doing their job you shouldnt have any aggro at all

surreal elm
#

Yea sorry, I mean I am not pulling aggro.

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and on the party list, the tank is A, and I am 1

fresh lodge
#

Aggro is not a useful metric to track damage

rotund sable
#

If you want to know how much damage you're doing you really just have to parse tbh

dense badge
#

So this is a weird question but still applies to final fantasy 14 kinda....i have a very good custom build and I would like to know if anyone happens to have any form of resource on how to accomplish the best graphic settings on final fantasy 14?

leaden ginkgo
#

When you mouse over strength stat it says these classes arms scale off it and it says arc and ast

surreal elm
#

Oh, cause someone in a party told me to pick up the dps cause I was low on the aggro list. so thats why i am askign

leaden ginkgo
#

So what do cnj/whm scale off?

wispy parcel
#

Its a Japanese MMO. They are made to be able to run on toasters. You can get the best settings easily with a decent PC

fresh lodge
#

Btw that just means auto attack damage

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Which for those classes is absolutely useless

smoky glade
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aggro is one way to tell but it's not reliable

leaden ginkgo
#

Ohh so not my ruin stone etc

surreal elm
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ah ok, cause it was on a boss thats all. thanks!

fresh lodge
#

Spells scale of Int for casters and Mind for Healers

leaden ginkgo
#

Got you so all my healers stack mind

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Thanks

solid otter
#

I have a question, I wanna get a sub to ff as I’m playing the trial version. And have been enjoying it for a few days now. However I’m playing on ps4 but i eventually intend to play on pc sometime in the near future. I don’t mind buying the expansion two times if I have to but does the subscription to play stay the same regardless of what you’re playing on? Might be a silly question so sorry lol

wispy parcel
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Sub stays the same

median locust
#

Subscription is for the account so it'll work for both platforms

wispy parcel
#

But you do have to buy the whole complete edition again

median locust
#

But you need to buy the game twice to play on 2 platforms

rugged shuttle
#

Game goes on sale often so you can always buy it again when it goes on sale

solid otter
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Yeah I think it’s cause I’m playing the game now but I’m so limited socially on what I can do and I’m already starting to make friends

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Oh that’s nice to know! Yeah I wanna avoid buying twice if I can but idk when ima build a pc so it could be a month from now.

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Thanks guys 💕

cedar compass
#

Do you need to redownload the game from steam if you buy it after the trial?

rugged shuttle
#

ARR + Post ARR + Heavensward is like 100 hours+ of content

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Unfortunetly yes

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Trial uses a modified client on steam for some bizzare reason

smoky glade
#

is 5.31 this week or next?

median locust
#

Next

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September 8th

smoky glade
#

oh phew ty

leaden ginkgo
#

how do I upgrade my account?

smoky glade
#

thought i needed to rush to use up all my diadem mats lol

leaden ginkgo
#

like, from free trial to standard edition

median locust
#

Buy the game, enter the code on Mogstation

leaden ginkgo
#

where do I buy it

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and where do I enter the code

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bc my mogstation is in JAPANESE

median locust
#

If you're on Steam, Steam

wispy parcel
#

Buy it off the square store, steam or PSN

median locust
#

If you're not on Steam, literally any other PC game seller

fervent silo
#

is there a way to see my ping?

leaden ginkgo
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I mean like

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ok so

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do the codes work with every region?

median locust
#

!faq checkping

zinc orbitBOT
#
Q: How do i check my ping to the servers?
  1. Open CMD (Windows key + R, Type CMD and hit enter)
  2. Type: ping -n 20 [Datacenter ip address] without the brackets
  3. Press enter
    PD: To check your Datacenter IP adress go to https://arrstatus.com/
median locust
#

iirc they do but once you register your standard edition code, your expansion codes MUST be from the same region as the standard edition code

jade lava
#

what do the red quests mean?

median locust
#

Means you don't meet the requirements

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Check the quest and it'll tell you why

leaden ginkgo
#

ok so

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it's Complete Edition

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and it's an EU code

#

if I have a japanese account, would it still work?

plain python
#

is there another good ring to wear after I get ironwork ring?

fervent silo
#

that website doesn't show crystals ip

median locust
#

Pick literally any other NA datacenter

#

They're all in the same physical location

jade lava
#

how does crafting work in this game? i got the option to become a leatherworker, can i only be one type of crafting job at a time?

median locust
#

You can pick up and level every single class in this game on a single character

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Combat job, crafter or gatherer

leaden ginkgo
#

Lamia

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if I buy an EU key

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can I use it on my Japanese account

jade lava
#

so there's no reason to not take the "so you want to be a leatherworker quest"?

median locust
#

I've heard that you can

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Yeah no reason, unless you're not interested in crafting at the moment

jade lava
#

is there any reason to craft most things in ft if i can't sell

wispy parcel
#

@jade lava for crafters its best to level all of them at the same time. So Id wait before touching those

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At least until you unlock ishgardian restoration

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Which will be a while

jolly sorrel
#

New to RDM, just want to confirm my basic rotation:
Jolt to get dualcast, Veraero or Verthunder to use dualcast, Verstone or Verfire on a proc and a new Jolt if not?

median locust
#

Pretty much

rotund sable
#

If you don't need it for movement you can chuck in a swiftcast to avoid a jolt

median locust
#

!faq 50rdm

zinc orbitBOT
#
'I just unlocked this' 5.x guide
green grail
#

never heard anyone say that, do you have more context? @lilac vine

median locust
#

Release means going back to the start after you die

green grail
#

ya

median locust
#

instead of taking a raise

leaden ginkgo
#

hey ummm

green grail
#

oh yeah, just respawning outside of the locked boss arena

leaden ginkgo
#

ik I'm being a bother but, how do I insert a key into mogstation

green grail
#

it's not "releasing the boss"

leaden ginkgo
#

my mogstation is in japanese so I can't read it

jolly sorrel
#

Perfect, thank you Fiss.

leaden ginkgo
#

wait I found it but my code says it doesn't work

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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

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I think I just wasted like

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30 bucks

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60*

green grail
#

you can either release (respawn outside the boss arena and stand doing nothing till the boss dies) or wait till someone gives you a raise, which can take a while

leaden ginkgo
#

so

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I used an EU key on my JP account

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it didn't work

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but I was told it would

median locust
#

why not get an EU account?

leaden ginkgo
#

alright

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I'll make a new account

median locust
#

You can play on JP even if you have an EU account

leaden ginkgo
#

ok

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I guess

median locust
#

and yeah sorry that didn't work, I heard someone say it only goes off of what you register and not account region

gritty oracle
#

Your account only dictates the currency of your payments

green grail
#

yeah, cause since the healers respawned out of the arena their LB wouldnt affect the people that are waiting dead inside the arena waiting for the LB3 @lilac vine

leaden ginkgo
#

I get

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errors

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and nothing is working

#

I can't read German either

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error i2501

median locust
#

2501 is a generic error code, try another browser

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or if you're under a VPN, disable that

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if not, try on a different computer or your phone

leaden ginkgo
#

ok

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if I do it on my phone, where do I install it from

#

can I just

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use the same version from the free trial

median locust
#

Pretty sure it just makes you download the full version from the launcher

slate trail
#

if i were to upgrade the game from trial to full, i should buy the "complete edition" right? then in the future i'll buy time cards?

median locust
#

Yes

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You can also pay using other stuff if you look at the mogstation page

leaden ginkgo
#

how do I log out of the client

oak chasm
#

levelling 60-70 is there any other method besides HoH trying to find a part for 11-20 for like an hour now

median locust
#

The launcher should be asking you for your login info everytime you open it, no?

leaden ginkgo
#

oh

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ok yeah

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I should just log out then

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restart it I mean

slate trail
#

@median locust aye thx for the clarification ^^

wispy parcel
#

@oak chasm spamming the highest level dungeon is faster if you are leveling a healer or tank. DPS youre better off just doing HoH

oak chasm
#

levelling a dps

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but i cant get into HoH 😦

median locust
#

60-70 roulettes then levelling dungeon spam is good. Some beast tribes on the side can also help

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If you have a tank/healer friend to skip queue, that would be ideal

gritty oracle
#

@oak chasm You gotta clear potd floor 50 and then do a blue quest in quarry

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And your class needs to be 61 and up

oak chasm
#

no i mean like

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im up to floors 11-20 of HoH but the queue time is forever

gritty oracle
#

Yeah because everyone queues for floor 21-30 because that's where the most xp is. It's usually fast during peak times though.

oak chasm
#

so i should get up to floor 21 ideally

median locust
#

after you get to 21-30 once you get a checkpoint so you can always start there

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so it's only annoying the first time since other people don't have to do 11-20 first

oak chasm
#

yeahhh i see what u mean

opaque pewter
#

We're all of those available at one point or another during their respective events?

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median locust
#

Most were, yes, but not all

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If it says Authentic, it was available during a past event

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Not 100% sure about the other items

#

Deluxe means the same thing

opaque pewter
#

And reproduction means never released besides in the store?

untold sand
#

when do i unlock the armory bonus?=

median locust
#

You don't unlock it

#

it just exists

#

It's applied to you as long as you're playing on a Disciple of War/Magic but already have a DoW/M at a higher level

warped nest
#

!faq armouryexp

zinc orbitBOT
#
Armoury EXP bonus FAQ

'How do I get the bonus experience from the Armoury?'

As long as you're playing a Disciple of War or a Disciple of Magic class that's a lower level than your highest level class then you're able to benefit from the bonus experience. You do not need to have a class at level 80 for the bonus to be active.

'How much is the bonus experience?'

You get +100% experience from levels 1 to 69, which then reduces to +50% for level 70 to 79. The difference in level between your current class and highest class does not change the amount of experience you get.

warped nest
#

So if your highest combat class is a lvl 23 Gladiator, then other combat class will naturally receive the bonus. Say you manage to grind an Archer to lvl 24, now your lvl 23 Gladiator will start receiving armoury bonus because Gladiator is no longer your highest level combat class.

untold sand
#

um so does that mean the 100% checkmark? under quests? cuz i also has road to 70 mark

#

i thought road to 70 was the prefered server bonus

median locust
#

There's no visible buff for the Armory Bonus

#

it just exists

untold sand
#

is road to 70 the prefered server stuff?

median locust
#

Yep

warped nest
#

Yes

untold sand
#

but doesnt that sum it up to 200%?

#

or idk how big road to 70 is

soft bough
#

this is a stupid question but what is the wave-like mark beside the name of my item

#

the item is like shiny

lost fossil
#

Hi guys, how can i lock the cursor to the camera so i dont have to hold RMB?

warped nest
#

@soft bough hqlight this?

green grail
#

hq HQplaydead high quality @soft bough

soft bough
#

yea that logo

gritty oracle
#

It means the item's high quality and gives better stats

warped nest
#

Some items (craftable items specifically) has normal quality and high quality variation

gritty oracle
#

It doesn't affect the appearance of the item

lost fossil
#

Hi guys, how can i lock the cursor to the camera so i dont have to hold RMB?
@lost fossil i think i accidentally pressed something to do that before but idk how to do it again

soft bough
#

so it's always better to get the high quality version of the equipment

median locust
#

For materials, it just means the item will give a small bonus to quality if you use it in a craft

warped nest
#

Just want to make sure that you know not everything has NQ/HQ version

soft bough
#

does HQ item drop from dungeons or raids?

faint flare
#

No

warped nest
#

HQ gear no

faint flare
#

Hq is only crafted

warped nest
#

HQ gears are usually crafted or rewarded from quests

faint flare
#

But dungeon and raid gear is equal to HQ gear of the same ilvl

warped nest
#

Again, really really want to hammer in the idea that not all gear has this NQ/HQ thing

#

If you hover over your HQ gear or item now, you should see a hot key at the bottom of the item description

faint flare
#

Dungeon/raid gear is essentially already HQ

warped nest
#

To let you peek the stat for NQ/HQ

soft bough
#

is crafting a huge part of this game? i havent start on that yet

faint flare
#

Yes

warped nest
#

Optional

faint flare
#

Optional but its basically a different game

cloud lake
#

Anyone know about gardening?

warped nest
#

It is useful and can be impactful , but it is not a hard requirement to play/finish/enjoy the game

soft bough
#

impactful as in? essential for end game content?

warped nest
#

Yeah

median locust
#

Nobody knows about gardening, it is a forbbiden art

warped nest
#

And only for a very specific group of players

median locust
#

jk but ask your question

warped nest
#

You can also do crafting for fun

wispy parcel
#

@soft bough its optional, you cam make your own crafted gear to stay on level or sell shit to become rich off the marketboard

lost fossil
#

can anyone help me?

warped nest
#

Crafting/Gathering is a very well made mini game on themselves

gritty oracle
#

And fishing is pretty much a separate Minigame from botany/mining, it works very diffferently

left moth
#

I pretend to know how to garden sofieDerp (to cross breed to get a desired seed, plant the 2 parent plants every other plot and roll the dice when it's time to harvest)

cloud lake
#

@median locust My question is. FOr curiel root seeds. It shows krakka root 3 and mirror apple 5 what does that mean on the site? I feel like I messed up on the crossbreed

soft bough
#

so those monster loots that i have in my inventory are for crafting?

warped nest
#

Yes

gritty oracle
#

If it has "Crafting Material" written on it, it's for crafting. But if it has "Shop Selling Price: XX Gil" you can sell it

median locust
#

Botanist/Miner you go to the spot where your desired item is, you gather enough of it, then you leave. Fisher, you go to the fishing hole where the fish you want is, then you don't get it and cry

gritty oracle
#

Fishing requires patience and lots of inventory space and lots of gil for baits, but lures are better

warped nest
#

Crafting is a surprisingly deep mini game on itself, because you don't just press one button and craft anything you want (I know there is quick synth, but that's not the point)

#

To succeed in crafting, you need to learn crafting skills, and how to use and combine them in a meaningful skill sequence to create high quality products

vale sage
#

Are lalafels limited in terms of glamour options? Any costume locks?

warped nest
#

Not really

#

No

plush heron
#

what server is best for a new UK player?

gritty oracle
#

There's not really any race locked clothes except for starting gear

proud willow
#

the only racial gear is the outfit you start in

vale sage
#

Ah alright, cheers

wispy parcel
#

The only race that has some limitation in glam is Viera

warped nest
#

Just some costumes just won't look as good because of lalafell build

wispy parcel
#

They cant wear most headgear

proud willow
#

and the Hempen Camise

warped nest
#

And hothgar

gritty oracle
#

Any on Chaos or Light. I've heard some servers have a larger foreign language community though

vale sage
#

Is it normal that I want to change from viera to lalafel?

warped nest
#

It is personal preference

#

We don't care

wispy parcel
#

Its okay that you wish to be a potato

vale sage
#

I mean, I was deadset on viera, but lalafels are more cuter the more I run into them

warped nest
#

That's fine

gritty oracle
#

@vale sage I recommend first "testing out" your new race and look on a retainer via retainer fantasia. Those are much more expendable than actual fantasia.

warped nest
#

Just swap

wispy parcel
#

I used to be an Au'ra but switched to Hyur

primal halo
#

Hello, I'm new cinder11Heart was wondering what the drop rate is for dodo meat? Can't find anything online

wispy parcel
#

Its fine

vale sage
#

Thanks for the cool tip!

median locust
#

Definitely give your new race a test drive and do different stuff with it

#

Like create a character then pick archer to check what their battle voice sounds like

vale sage
#

Might play as lalafel then switch back to viera or something else at +50 since I don't have access to glamour yet

median locust
#

glamour is 15

vale sage
#

o:

warped nest
#

!faq glamour

zinc orbitBOT
#
Glamour FAQ

'What is Glamour and how do I unlock it?'

Glamour is the process of changing an equipment's look into a different item with the use of Glamour Prisms. You can unlock the ability to glamour by doing the level 15 quests 'If I Had a Glamour' in Vesper Bay, West Thanalan. Although not required, you can unlock the ability to dye gear with the nearby quest 'Color Your World'. You can get the Orange Juice needed by talking to the nearby Merchant & Mender. Items used for glamouring are not lost upon use.

'How do I glamour? Where do I get more Prisms?'

Glamouring is done by right-clicking (Square or X on controllers) on the equipment you want to glamour and choosing the option 'Cast Glamour'. After clicking this you choose the item you want the appearance on the right half of the menu that opened up. You can get more Glamour Prisms by either crafting them after completing the quest 'Absolutely Glamourous', buying them from your Grand Company Quartermaster, or buying them from the marketboard.

vale sage
#

Has it always been 15!?

primal halo
#

Is there a website that has item drop rates? cinder11Think

warped nest
#

Always have been

vale sage
#

Thought it was 50 what

median locust
#

No, but it's been changed to 15 a while ago

#

It used to be 50 a few expansions ago

vale sage
#

Omgggg

tulip plover
#

How do you find the gathering gear sellers in the field

median locust
#

I think that changed in Stormblood? 3 years ago

vale sage
#

Did not know, thank you hahaha

warped nest
#

I always thought that it is the recipe for glamour prism

#

And glamour is just level 15 all along...

#

Oh well

median locust
#

Dye has always been 15

#

But not glam

primal halo
#

um..can anyone answer my question

warped nest
#

Is there a website that has item drop rates? :cinder11Think:
@primal halo no

#

Any numbers are estimated at best

icy jay
#

Why are the end game missions only giving me 3 bronze things that are worth 100 each

median locust
#

There's no accurate item drop rates anywhere

icy jay
#

Is something wrong or something

warped nest
#

How do you find the gathering gear sellers in the field
@tulip plover look for NPC in towns or settlements, see if they sell it

primal halo
#

Okay thank you! Sorry, I'm just getting frustrated with these dodos >.>

warped nest
#

Why are the end game missions only giving me 3 bronze things that are worth 100 each
@icy jay??? Which mission?

#

Squadron mission?

icy jay
#

The last 5 end game main story mission, and everything after it

hot eagle
#

can buy it from npc Iirc if u mean dodo tenderloin it's 28 gil for 1 @primal halo

warped nest
#

Lvl 50 quests?

icy jay
#

All of a sudden they stopped giving me the 2,500 token and started giving me the 100 Gil token

#

Yeah

#

There Something wrong or something, cause that's a 100 til is a terrible reward for level 50 quests

warped nest
#

If the quest is just you moving to a new location and talk to a new NPC

#

The reward is not gonna be great

vivid thorn
#

are there mechanics from Shinryu that return in ShB?

icy jay
#

All of the missions are like that though

warped nest
#

Yes

#

Lvl 50 is a long string of post ARR quests

#

Serving as the epilogue for ARR

#

And prologue for HW

#

They were probably tuned to not shower you with money

icy jay
#

Back when I was doing small level 40 quests I still getting 500-2500 Gil per quest, why does it drop to 100 when I do level 50 quests

warped nest
#

are there mechanics from Shinryu that return in ShB?
@vivid thorn earth shaker... Ummm.. Tidal wave... Akh morn or mon afah (I forgot which is which)

median locust
#

both return anyway

warped nest
#

Instead of saying Shinryu has returning mechanics

#

I would say Shinryu uses existing mechanics and combine them

limpid lantern
#

What was the reset timer help command ?

vivid thorn
#

is it worth grinding then?

warped nest
#

God not this again

#

No

lavish prism
#

Sorry but where can I go to find a Free Company? I'm on Ragnarok

warped nest
#

Don't grind and practice mechanics for future fights

#

They will be presented and combined with different mechanics

median locust
#

/r/FFXIVRECRUITMENT or #recruitment-chaos in this Discord

warped nest
#

Just practice that version of the mechanics in the actual fight it appear in

median locust
#

or hang out in major cities and look for FC advertisement shouts

lavish prism
#

Ok thanks

vivid thorn
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but grinding and practicing mechanics from previous fights did work for me hence the question

icy jay
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Does anyone play on gungir, I'm try to find some free companies, but I have yet to find a single person play on that server

warped nest
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Answering this once and for all, aside from a few very difficult Ultimate/Savage mechanics, all other mechanics will eventually get repeated in different variations

vivid thorn
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but some more than others

warped nest
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(even the ultimate/savage mechanica might eventually find their way to other contents)

vivid thorn
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if it means I should grind O4/8S so be it

warped nest
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If you insist on practicing, you do you

median locust
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nobody does that

warped nest
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My opinion is, just practice the mechanics on the actual fight

median locust
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nobody goes to old endgame fights just to practice mechanics that'll come back later

warped nest
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Don't practice a different version of a similar mechanic on a different fight

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It worked for them

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And this is the second time I have answered it

median locust
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The best practice for future content is, you know, doing said content, lol

warped nest
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If they want to play it this way, it is their choice

regal heath
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I mean you can practice a "type" of mechanic on older content, moving, spacing, dodging, whatever

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Its just really fucking redundant to actually do it

vivid thorn
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I'm concerned about trials now

median locust
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why would you be

warped nest
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You are worrying too much

median locust
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it's expected that if you're new you're going to fail mechanics

vivid thorn
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because I have trusts for dungeons going forward

warped nest
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Nobody expects you to be perfect on the go

regal heath
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Pretty much all the content in this game is easy as fuck

vivid thorn
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even savage?

regal heath
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Because its balanced around console players

warped nest
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Everyone makes mistakes

regal heath
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High end stuff is hard, because its just tuned like crazy

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But I wouldnt be worrying about Savage

warped nest
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That's not why it is easy, but whatever

simple pine
regal heath
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Bottom

median locust
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In Savage/Extreme you should read a guide at least, but when doing story stuff and casual content, you don't have to read a guide or practice beforehand

simple pine
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you can read it as white will overwrite blue, or blue is what white changes into

vivid thorn
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it may be redundant but it worked for me and practicing beforehand did wonders

median locust
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then do it

warped nest
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We are just saying it is not necessary

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You are free to stick to it

vivid thorn
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that's why I want to know precisely which fights have repeated mechs

regal heath
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@simple pine But the arrow is pointing down 😉

vivid thorn
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and where it comes back

warped nest
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Again, they come back in different variations

median locust
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You're overcomplicating the game for yourself

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tbh

warped nest
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And are almost always combined with different mechanics

vivid thorn
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but I NEED practice before I go into ShB

simple shore
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No you dont

warped nest
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And part of the fun is to learn these combinations

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You don't need to

scarlet arrow
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as long as you understand basic concepts ("stack here", "spread these AoEs out", "don't dunk people with things that follow you", etc.) the actual mechanics of a given boss aren't particularly important to know going in (unless it's savage/extreme)

warped nest
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You want to

plush heron
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is there a guide that can help me decide what class to play?

median locust
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You never NEED to practice or read a guide for MSQ or casual content

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Ever

vivid thorn
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wrong

median locust
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@plush heron 3rd pin

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No I'm not wrong

simple shore
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You already stated that you're going to use Trusts for dungeons so you dont need anything for that unless you're afraid of being judged by NPC's. The three trials that you will be forced to do for 5.0 MSQ have absolutely nothing you can practice ahead of time which will remotely prepare you.

median locust
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It's how the game is designed

plush heron
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nice thanks

simple shore
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So you're wrong, period.

warped nest
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is there a guide that can help me decide what class to play?
@plush heron you can watch a video on YouTube, one sec

wispy parcel
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Marjo Ive played this game for 5 years

median locust
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4th pin* mb

warped nest
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Damn my typo

wispy parcel
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Ive never practiced MSQ or Casual shit

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Im doing just fine

vivid thorn
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I practice it because I know just how much it helps

warped nest
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Again, you are free to stick to your routine

simple shore
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There is no fight that resembles the 5.0 trials though.

warped nest
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We are just saying that we cannot help dissect the mechanics piece by piece

median locust
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No one here will or can stop you, but arguing about it makes no sense lol

simple shore
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So "practice" is pointless.

warped nest
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Because they are always combined with diabetes mechanics

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Or have small variations

vivid thorn
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I can more easily handle small variations if I practiced a different version

warped nest
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You are setting yourself up in a endless cycle of mechanic practice

simple shore
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Okay, and im telling you that the three 5.0 trials dont have "a different version". The mechanics of each of them are fairly unique to them and them only.

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Thus practicing is a waste of time

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and pointless

vivid thorn
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but I'll still be a much better player for practicving

median locust
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Either way, don't think arguing with someone who doesn't wanna change their mind is worth the time lol

warped nest
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Our opinion is, just practice that version of the mechanics in the actual fight.

simple shore
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yeah, if they want to play the game wrong its on them. there is literally nothing that resembles the three trials though.

simple pine
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what is the best way to get some extra yellow scrips for level 60 crafter/gatherer besides the custom deliveries? it seems crafting collectible items is quite expensive

median locust
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It's not that expensive if you gather the stuff yourself

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Just teleport costs

vivid thorn
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maybe I should just read guides before going in those trials and put off doing new trials until guides are released

median locust
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There are people that do that, but know that it's not necessary

simple shore
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Unnecessary, but its significantly more logical than "run an unrelated fight hoping it will somehow make you better at it"

vivid thorn
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I feel it would have saved me lots of issues

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to read guides in full first

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I paid the price of it on multiple occasions

warped nest
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yeah, if they want to play the game wrong its on them. there is literally nothing that resembles the three trials though.
@Balmerick#3224 never exactly. For example, one of Byakko mechanic is the standard space apart and drop multiple puddles on the small safe zone while boss will shoot a huge ass AOE

scarlet arrow
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it's OK to die a lot on a new trial

vivid thorn
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but I still should read guides first

simple shore
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Lchronos i'm talking about the ShB trials

warped nest
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Byakko's variation of this is it is a line AOE, and the puddle in EX don't want to touch

median locust
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Nobody at least half a brain will think less of new people for dying to a fight they've never seen before

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It's normal

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"Paying the price" is fine

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you'll die

vivid thorn
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I should still read guides in full first

median locust
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If you want, it's just not necessary

warped nest
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Eh, same angle. Basically, it is futile to try and catalog and practice all variations of boss mechanics because the list will grow exponentially

vivid thorn
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I would recommend it to every new player to read guides first

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even for MSQ

simple shore
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Yeah, i just meant that there's literally no "previous fight" that covers any of the mechs of the three 5.0 MSQ trials.

median locust
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I wouldn't

warped nest
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Yup, that's the recommendation.... Ehhhh.... Not really necessary for msq

faint flare
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Alot of people clear msq blind

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🤷‍♂️

vivid thorn
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I feel it's necessary for at least a few of them: Shinryu, Gubal

warped nest
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Just type in party "first time, any key mechanics to watch out for?"

faint flare
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Without many issues

scarlet arrow
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I enjoy going into a new fight blind, but if you don't that's fine

simple shore
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Why in the world would you need to read a guide for Gubal.

median locust
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You can go through literallly every non-Extreme/Savage fight blind without a single issue. If you wanna die less, just say "Hey I'm new, anything to look out for?"

simple shore
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Like i can understand Shinryu....a little bit

faint flare
vivid thorn
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Ala Mhigo and Shinryu removed any fun I could have going in blind

faint flare
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Fun fact: shinyru was nerfed

vivid thorn
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but I still wished to read the guide in full

faint flare
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Cause people cant do basic mechanics

median locust
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Everyone keeps saying that but I remembered them choosing not to nerf him lol, would you happen to have the patch note for that handy?

rotund sable
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i think its polite to know whats going on in fights, if its a new fight then thats different

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just means you aren't potentially making 7 other peoples run a pain

simple shore
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The point moreso

vivid thorn
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I may wish to re-do Shinryu but only after having read the guide first

simple shore
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is it literally doesnt matter if you're a DPS, and if you're a tank/healer only if both of them are completely clueless

faint flare
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Well actually they didn't but gear is essentially a nerf

vivid thorn
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I was undergeared sure

rotund sable
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some mechanics can take a group with them but they're pretty rare

faint flare
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Idk why i think that

simple shore
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Like, every MSQ trial can be dragged to victory with several people who are dead weight.

median locust
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Either way, I think we're way far out of the original question which was "Do any of Shinryu's mechanics come back later?"

faint flare
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Unless you buy gear from market, shinyru is meant for i290

vivid thorn
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I was in, like, 295 and everyone else had full augmented Scaevan or better

simple shore
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Thats irrelevant though.

faint flare
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Cause you cant get better gear without buying from market

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Cause scaven is unlocked after shinyru

simple shore
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The whole point is that when you queue these MSQ trials, you get matched with 7 people. More often than not, you will be the only new person.

faint flare
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So you're at the ilvl you're meant to be

simple shore
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So it really doesnt even matter if you have a clue whats happening.

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Case in point, i got Lakshmi yesterday and some clueless healer died 12 times because they never once pressed the button. Didnt matter, cleared in normal time on first pull.

vivid thorn
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I still wish for guides because there were mechs I realized I couldn't afford to mess up

deft quiver
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does edenchoir belt come from ramuh or somewhere else?

median locust
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Yes, Ramuh

deft quiver
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is it a rarer drop?

simple shore
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The point Marjo, is that in most every MSQ trial, you could be dead for the entire fight and it would not only not matter but nobody would even care.

median locust
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No

deft quiver
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ive only seen necklace, bracelet, and ring coffers in the past 3 weeks since clear

median locust
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Ramuh will drop 3 of these: Earrings, Necklace, Bracelet, Ring, Belt
It can also be dupes.

faint flare
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Just good old rng

median locust
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^

deft quiver
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rip

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marble drift
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well are you a tank Ace?

deft quiver
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no

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blm

wicked night
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is scholar even that good if a healer? it feels like a dps, and the fairy attempts to heal

marble drift
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ah yes. the 1 exception

deft quiver
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what exception?

marble drift
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cause I belive its only tanks and blm's that use the edenchoir belt

median locust
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All healers are good

deft quiver
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yup

faint flare
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Scholar is a exceptional healer

deft quiver
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i need either 3 or 4 things from that fight

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pretty annoying

faint flare
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The king of off global healing

open coral
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SCH has a 20 level rough patch as a healer between about level 40 and level 60

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But after level 60 they're exceptional healers

wicked night
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from the research everyone says white mage is better. I was thinking about just abandoning my scholar for white mage since im only level 34, as far as gameplay (ig level 34 gameplay) i feel like the bulk of my abilities are going towards dealing damage

wispy parcel
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All Jobs have a rough patch so its fine

open coral
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WHM is just easier to learn and has more flat healing.

faint flare
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White mage just has strong, upfront healing

marble drift
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uhh you're probably making the mistake that healers in FFXIV actually heal

open coral
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SCH is about knowing when damage is going to happen and pre-empting it

wispy parcel
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WHM is all hard heals but no buffs

faint flare
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Scholar has millions of way to heal for free

marble drift
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they really need to re-titled "support"

faint flare
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Between aetherflow and fairy

wispy parcel
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@marble drift thats what ranged dps are

marble drift
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cause most of an endgame healers actions during fights are dps spells

median locust
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All healers are good, people just call WHM better cause it's ever so slightly better

marble drift
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also: machinist says otherwise

median locust
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Scholar is still good

wicked night
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blue mage

simple shore
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implying that MCH is a support

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lol

hybrid jasper
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are tsuku mats desynthable from the weapons like shinryu?

median locust
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No

hybrid jasper
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shame

median locust
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Even desynthed like 10 tsuku shields to check a few weeks ago

open coral
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@wicked night All healers, in an ideal situation, will be doing dps almost as much as they're healing because that's how this game is constructed and balanced. Even WHM gets meme'd as "Glare Mage" because we spend a good chunk of fights spamming Glare (Stone).

hybrid jasper
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cloth drop rates are ass

open coral
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It's only when the rest of the party can't stop taking damage that a healer will spend more time healing than dpsing

wicked night
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@open coral you've done a good job of explaining everything. that whole deal about the rough patch kind of puts things in to perspective, i shouldn't assume level 30 something gameplay is how itll be towards late game

glossy flare
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which is true for all jobs honestly

cerulean grove
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How do i unlock the porter chocoba routes

median locust
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Talk to chocobo porters

faint flare
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Talk to chocobo porters

median locust
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That's about it

glossy flare
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speak to every porter you encounter

faint flare
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In the area

cerulean grove
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ahh

faint flare
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Gotta register them

simple shore
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Level 30 something gameplay is pretty unindicative for everyone except for like.....WAR

marble drift
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I would consider a large portion of jobs just...not good before a later threshold

median locust
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lol

glossy flare
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war smash

marble drift
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I don't think Im alone in stating Warrior before 70

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is butts

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mega-butts

simple shore
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I mean yes, Berserk is pretty trash.

wispy parcel
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Paladin doesnt even get a full single target rotation until HW content

median locust
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Warrior stays the same all the way like

simple shore
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But the way it plays doesnt really change at all

glossy flare
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drk has no tbn before 70, which is kinda the whole point of drk

open coral
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SCH gets it particularly bad because they don't get their first Aetherflow ability until level 45, so they spend 15 levels with just Physick, Adlo/Succor, and Whispering Dawn, none of which hit particularly hard.

median locust
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Keep up Storm's Eye, spam Fell Cleave or the move that you get before it under Berserk/Inner Release

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done

open coral
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And then Indom doesn't show up for another 7 levels after that.

marble drift
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we're sorta talking class feel tho. Warrior without its major "get angry" ability feels awful once you've used it for an extended period

median locust
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yeah true

marble drift
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and its a little skewed because it starts there

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but samurai before 50?

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ughhh kill me

median locust
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pre-70 you get full gauge + 2 Intuition stacks then dump everything under berserk which feels a little different

wispy parcel
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Basically a lot of the jobs sucked to play in ARR

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None more so than BLM