thanks guys, need to do my MSQ more
#questions-and-help
tender merlin
outer plank
yeah uldah gladiators
tender merlin
have a great day ❤️
scarlet sandal
i mean you wont get yelled at for not haviing one before Manor but getting the job stone would be good
fringe lotus
So I keep seeing people talking about doing Dungeons "unsynced" how do I unlock the ability to do that?
heady orbit
Is there any way i can upgrade my weapon?
outer plank
@heady orbit hub town vendors for now
simple shore
@outer plank i was in a dungeon, but typically, actually you were the one wrong in that SoS EX
Generally the CW refers to the T/H roles
outer plank
just locate one in any of the big cities and buy them
fringe lotus
Ahh okay thanks Cerberus
heady orbit
Blue screen
simple shore
i.e. for SMN you go CCW, the T/H goes CW
tender merlin
wait that peeked my interest, unsynced means? like i can enter a level 16 dungeon but keep my level 36?
remote lintel
yes
simple shore
i.e. if you were at SW, you would take earthshaker to South
remote lintel
but you wouldnt clear it with lvl 36
twilit arch
ya, unsync means you go into an instance with no level/ilvl sync
outer plank
@simple shore then if i get marker first?
remote lintel
if you invite higher lvl people yes
tender merlin
the mobs are sycned to higher level as well?
remote lintel
no
outer plank
and im situtated in the sw cardinal?
tender merlin
what thats so much easier, is there any downside?
simple shore
Generally DPS goes CCW to cardinal with Earthshaker - so you'd go to South while the Tank at South would go to SW to take SW flare breath
remote lintel
you can still get drops from chests
simple shore
and then you'd trade spots for the next one
tender merlin
ohh so not worth it for leveling
remote lintel
no you cant level with it
simple shore
You'd go back to SW and eat flare breath and the Tank who has earthshaker now would be at South again
tender merlin
just probably hunting item for my other sub class?
remote lintel
sure
tender merlin
ohh thank you
remote lintel
people unsync old extremes and savages for cosmetic items
tender merlin
jsut for some info that i would share to my friends
where is this cogwhell?
wheel*
remote lintel
top of duty finder
simple shore
No...
tender merlin
tender merlin
this bar?
simple shore
if you're a ranged
remote lintel
yes
simple shore
you will take the 4th and 8th meteor during WHM/BLM
outer plank
................................................ when did we go from talking about summoner
simple shore
because you said thmr
outer plank
to talking about whm/blm\
tender merlin
oh found the wheel
simple shore
thmr is a whm/blm mech
tender merlin
thank you cerberus
fleet knot
what is that exactly? (shared FATEs)
outer plank
ok OK disreguard that, what i meant is that for first markers, if the group says were going CW for summoner and i as a dps is located sw. that means if i get markers first, i go south and tank goes sw for bahamut tethers (obviously vice versa)
simple shore
Yeah the CW usually refers to the Tank/Healer
Since not everyone can go CW
Think of it as just being your LB3 partner
that's how its done on primal PF 99% of the time
Whoever you partnered up with for LB3, is same person you're going to trade spots with for SMN
Same person you'll partner with for NIN too
normal breach
can you get white scrips from collectables before lvl 80? or only when u hit lvl 80 does it become an option
twilit arch
that top row denotes a set of 10 fates done
outer plank
@simple shore yeah i got the swapping part down, but quite literally people keep saying cw in pf and it feels like i have to keep readjusting between west and south for no reason
outer plank
i think i feel like theres alot of people similarly in my shoes
twilit arch
you have to do a total of 60
simple shore
because its much more clear
twilit arch
as it says in the corner 4/60
fleet knot
how many ranks is it?
twilit arch
just 3
fleet knot
kk ty
soft sleet
what happens if my duty finder pops and I miss it?
remote lintel
you get penalized
twilit arch
you get taken out of queue
and if you miss 3 of them you get locked out of duty finder for a while
dapper oyster
any way to increase mount speed in novrandt?
remote lintel
trade bicolor gemstones for riding maps
dapper oyster
as someone who just hit 80 and finishes all the MSQ, do you think it would be better for me to spam level 80 dungeon for the allegory
or raise another class?
remote lintel
whatever you want
dapper oyster
i mean i already have level 50 BLM so just use BLM for daily roulette?
remote lintel
also do hunt trains for grinding tomes
simple shore
"Finishes all the MSQ" - do you mean through 5.3 or just 5.0
magic light
what's CW
dapper oyster
5.3
simple shore
CW = Clockwise
magic light
oh
hidden lotus
Hey uh, anyone know how I'm supposed to beat Carmilla in the Masked Carnivale 13 (Beauty and a Beast)?
simple shore
@dapper oyster Anyway, yeah do whatever but make sure you're capping allegory every week if you care about getting into Savage / EX
hidden lotus
If I kill that extra she summons, it seems like Carmilla uses a 30k fixed that, naturally, kills me
hidden lotus
gross.
simple shore
If she kills it, it amplifies the damage of the AoE
if you kill it, no amp
make sure you're interrupting casts with sardine
hidden lotus
It didn't seem to be an interruptible, but I'll look more closely this time around.
simple shore
!faq interrupt
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simple shore
in case you're unfamiliar
You can definitely int the circle AoE
Beguiling Mists, used by the add
hidden lotus
Blood Rain wasn't interruptible, but Beguiling Mists was
simple shore
Yeah
Blood Rain you just have to deal with
If you killed the add in time it wont kill you
hidden lotus
yeah it did 30k, so I must not have put the extra down fast enough
simple shore
Yup
hidden lotus
I'll focus it harder this time
fringe fern
For materia, can i meld any materia to any equipment? I want to buy high level materia to improve my CP for crafting for my level 20 gear.
hidden lotus
Woo got it that time!
granite swan
@fringe fern I dont think that would work, i think materia needs a certain item level to go into them
fringe fern
ah i see
sterile ore
is SAM aa hard class to play? ive been playing tank sicne the beginning, the brainded PLD, wonder if SAM a good choice for first time dps
jolly sorrel
I think I asked before but just to confirm, the monster level does not affect the droprates? A level 51 and 57 dragon will both drop skins at the same pace?
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leaden ginkgo
what's the MGP cap?
brave ravine
What is the number to the right of the level indicated for the duty in the Duty Finder?
twilit arch
indicates the number of party finder groups listed for that dungeon/roulette
brave ravine
ahh ok, thanks
jolly sorrel
I don't think anyone has ever found that feature useful ever?
remote lintel
it is if youre trying to find a group
simple shore
@sterile ore I consider SAM to be the easiest melee. However, some people seem to have difficulty with it, so idk.
vale sage
Hi guys, I'm a new player, just finished my level 15 quests. Are the events that are currently on doable for me? Idk if it's worth pursuing, don't want to waste my time
smoky glade
they're time limited and def worth doing
twilit arch
the rising event 100% doable at lvl 15 provided you've gotten to ul'dah
the yokai watch event requires lvl 30 min to participate
but it'll be around for a while so
hot eagle
rising event i say yes for yo-kai I would wait till u are done with arr so u unlock flying
twilit arch
you've got time to work on that
simple shore
Yokai is also....alot less annoying if you finish ARR MSQ first.
Plus you'll need to if you want to get everything since some of Yokai is exclusively in HW / SB zones
naive kraken
but aside from mostly cosmetic stuff, there aren't any emotes like other events, just different mounts and minions and glamours. emotes tend to be the biggest thing to miss that you might want, but none are available in the current stuff, i believe
simple shore
The puzzle minigame from this years Rising is actually pretty cool
leaden ginkgo
When do you guys think 5.4 will be coming out
I'm only on msq 35 and I want to get the mount
tender merlin
hello i play from laptop to laptop and i noticed that my hotbar settings dont really save, is there a button to saave it so i can play on different laptops without having to set them again and again
remote lintel
you upload them to the cloud from the character select screen
tender merlin
ohh thank you
mossy tartan
Is the item “Makai moon guide’s circlet” female-only?
vale sage
the rising event 100% doable at lvl 15 provided you've gotten to ul'dah
@twilit arch I've reached Ul'dah but don't know what I'd need to do there to get started
Might need to read these events lool
remote lintel
go left from the aetheryte and theres a crowd of people
vale sage
Trying to take shortcut by asking other players
remote lintel
swarming the npc
twilit arch
there's a quest called " Art of Glass" to start the event
remote lintel
note that you need some kind of housing in order to use the furniture you get from the event
twilit arch
and a minion
remote lintel
and a minion but
twilit arch
cease
vale sage
Mainly for furniture I assume
remote lintel
i was just gonna give a warning
twilit arch
seriously, bringing attention to it is worse
simple shore
It also gives several minigames in the Toy Chest in the Inn Room
hidden axle
Is it still possible to get Raigo from the garo event if you have one of the titles?
simple shore
One unique to this year, and all of the previous ones as well
twilit arch
no
vale sage
What is the quest marker where there's an exclaimation mark with a blue background and a big + symbol in the corner?
remote lintel
you dont have to do the 
that say leves
ruby willow
Can someone tell me the gear she is using? I know the gun is unobtainable. What is the rest though>
vale sage
I see, thanks!
remote lintel
looks like garo aiming
tulip plover
How do you get a second retainer
remote lintel
go to the retainer vocate
remote lintel
faerie tale princess gloves
the glasses look like one of the 500 generic glasses on the mb
!iglam oval reading glasses
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Images of glamour items by Gamer Escape.
obsidian patio
Edenverse savage gear along with augmented allegory gear are the current best sets
dapper oyster
i assume savage is the grindy one
proud willow
no, Savage is the difficult one
remote lintel
no it's the hardcore one
dapper oyster
i guess augmented allegory for now then
remote lintel
for casual augmented neo ish is also fine
red garden
Im a new player and i have a quastion about jobs/classes, i heard that they change later like rouge becoming a ninja. how does that work?
twilit arch
once you get to lv30 on a class, complete all of the class quests, and do the main scenario quest "Sylph Management" you can unlock the job for that class
jobs are basically like a better version of the class. more skills and whatnot
red garden
Oh okay, i thought it was like a talent tree you choose from if you want to continue being like a rouge or a ninja
jolly sorrel
The only somewhat weird exception is an Arcanist that can become both a Scholar and a Summoner.
Its best to see them as simply two new jobs rather than an extension
simple shore
Jobs are non-optional, basically. If you arent playing as a job once its available, you're crippling yourself and other players will likely not react kindly.
red garden
Okay thats good to know xd
burnt flicker
imagine going in as a lvl 80 arcanist, the sheer amount of hate you would get
granite swan
same amount as queing as lv 80 tank in glamour and no armor :p
naive kraken
the only reasons to not have it be automatic once you clear the quest to obtain the soul stone are potato code and so that you can't specialize in more than 3 DoH classes
burnt flicker
I get enough of that in my SCH glamouring in with swimsuit wear :X
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rugged flicker
What does this year's Rising event involve? Debating whether or not to do it before bed.
twilit arch
short little quest with a puzzle mini game
gritty oracle
I've seen a level 70 archer in rabanastre once and was like wtf
warped nest
Could be a new player who just boost and didn't know that you need job crystal to stay as a Bard
leaden ginkgo
Does the Puzzle stays in the toybox?
twilit arch
ya
leaden ginkgo
And we just unlocked every other mini games bc of this rising event? this is my first rising.. so
twilit arch
i believe so yeah
iirc the other mini-games were also part of previous rising events
warped nest
Do you need to participate in those event to receive the mini game in your puzzle box?
simple shore
if you hvent tried it, go check out this years puzzle. its nothing like the thing you do in the quest
No Lchronos
warped nest
That's nice
simple shore
My reroll cahracter got all of them for completing this years event
wet cradle
what to buy with poetics when maxed?
oak ice
!faq poetics
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oak ice
@wet cradle
wet cradle
thanks!!
oak ice
Has money maker tips, too, I think
wet cradle
the best tip for me so far is the thanalan soil for poetics because I'm trying to get thavnair onions
thanks!!!
ancient solar
how Can I craft black dye
granite swan
You only get the one freebie Fantasia from MSQ right?
leaden ginkgo
at which lvl should I start caring about gear?
obsidian patio
@ancient solar get any crafting class to level 30 and then click the star in the crafting log to go to the "special" recipes which will have the dyes in the "Other" section
@leaden ginkgo in terms of gearing yourself up, the story will stop doing that for your first class once you beat the shadowbringers leveling story.
dusky bear
Hi, I'm looking for a specific answer rather than a generic, as in, details would be nice. So basically i'm trying to speed lvl my BLU, I just started on it, its currently lv 9. I hear that via a friend you can speed lvl it within an hour, but right now I feel like I get less than 10% xp per mob, (next lvl is 9930 xp i get 744 xp per kill) -
i have a friend, we are not in party. they said Azys lla, and said middle of the map, so i'm assuming on the ship. so was wondering what i'm doing wrong as I feel like killing a mob 13 times just 1 lvl doesn't feel like i'll wrap it up under 1 hour.
ancient solar
thanks so much
obsidian patio
@dusky bear you don't kill the level 60 monsters on the flagship, the level 59 monsters everywhere else should be providing the good experience
deft yarrow
with out going into spoilers, does the 'we fall' lyrics in the ShB theme(s) have quite a significant meaning?
dusky bear
when you say everywhere else?
hot eagle
if the mob is more as 20 lvl higher u get rly bad exp iirc
obsidian patio
if not, then go to Northern Thanalan or Mor Dhona and kill the monsters there until you're level 50.
By everywhere else I mean the rest of Azys Lla
basically not the flagship
dusky bear
lemme see how that goes
twin sable
Hi! what’s better? Red mage or black mage? Been playing black mage but not feeling the stand still and attack gameplay. Ofc I’m only level 47 black mage so I shouldn’t judge it so soon but will it change as I level up?
dusky bear
the robot bee can do ranged attack
obsidian patio
the arm robots on the eastern half of the NW island are melee-only
that's where most people I saw power level blue mage
vale sage
DoH/DoL, should I be focusing on this as soon as possible? New player
obsidian patio
nah
Though you can do a gathering class like miner or botanist with very little investment as they do perfectly fine with NPC vendor gear
vale sage
I see, thank you! 🙂
twin sable
So... red mage? :p
granite swan
Wait, why are you only gaining 20%?
obsidian patio
@twin sable believe it or not, but Black Mage has more flexible/less costly movement than Red Mage at level cap. Despite Red Mage getting an instant cast every other cast, they are forced to fully cast a spell to get that dualcast
granite swan
Shouldnt it be 120% with Armory?
twin sable
Ah ha. Ok. So I continue with black mage then?
obsidian patio
yeah, you're slowly hitting the levels where you're getting your movement stuff
!action sharpcast
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!action triplecast
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twin sable
Ah nice ok.
analog gate
BLM also get the two teleport options with short CDs
dusky bear
my 20% is my lvlling helmet
twin sable
Oh nice @analog gate
obsidian patio
Due to how Sharpcast works, you get an instant cast spell from the fire and thunder proc spells
twin sable
Yeah teleport will be helpful haha
obsidian patio
!action aetherial Manipulation
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obsidian patio
involves targeting other party members, but extremely good when used right
twin sable
Ha aite. BLM it is then! Ty! @obsidian patio @analog gate
tulip plover
Which quest do you actually head to doma
obsidian patio
How far in the stormblood story are you?
granite swan
@dusky bear Yeah, but you should be getting 100% from Armory since you have a 50+ right?
granite swan
@dusky bear Also, if you do the lv 15 training in the i forget the name, you can get a ring with 30% bonus xp pre-30 i think it is?
crimson wind
For BRD aoe do I always want Stormbite + Venombite on one target for RoD procs
cold crescent
hey so uh
this is maybe a weird question but
i started blue mage earlier today and im at level 57 now right
aaaand
im trying to do some dungeons and do the job quest boss fight
azulmagia
howcome the damage is so low on this class?
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cold crescent
vague question but damage numbers are just so low im pretty confused
obsidian patio
what's your current gear?
Blue Mage is extremely dependent on their gear for damage as they scale highly off the intelligence stat.
cold crescent
ahhhh
uhhhh some parts of the blue mage set and some random pieces of equipment from the vault dungeon
like is there certain equipment i should grab from somewhere?
poetics mayb?
obsidian patio
@crimson wind from what I'm reading, you dot up to 4-6 targets depending on how long you think everything will live
granite swan
Get to 60, and get shire + alexander gear mix is BiS for Blue i think?
cold crescent
i have the max intelligence equipment ive got
like thats what i have equipped
its all at least as good as the level 50 blue mage rewards
so i just think its weird that im not doing enough damage to beat the level 50 azulmagia boss
granite swan
You might need just change what spells your using? Ive not tried the Carnival yet since my spell aquasition is all over the place
cold crescent
im using black and white knights tour as my go to dps
idk if those are good
just seemed straightforward
brisk iron
So I'm level 17 in Eureka, would it be foolish for me to go to the next area at such a low level or would I be 'ok' i dont mind staying in the first area a bit longer if i have to
crimson wind
get to 20 and finish your weapon
brisk iron
my weapon?
brisk iron
sorry im not sure what you mean, guess you mean one of the items from the gerolt guy?
crimson wind
yes
brisk iron
welp i hope i have enough for it
obsidian patio
@cold crescent you need a physical spell too for when Azulmagia puts up the magic reflect shield
like Drill Cannon, Sharpened Knife, or Abyssal Transfixion
leaden ginkgo
hey so what do the three grand companies get me?
obsidian patio
!faq grandcompany
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jolly sorrel
@brisk iron Usually getting to max level in a zone is much faster than actually getting the relic step.
brisk iron
I see, ill check that guy out now i havnt done for a while
ill probs be back with more questions
verbal token
whats the command to stop macro?
proven bay
The macro itself stops when it's finished. I don't think you can stop it midway unless you forcefully interrupt it by using another ability
twilit arch
you can use another macro to interrupt it, so can make one with something like /echo
since echo is a message only you can see if you put nothing there, it'll show nothing but interrupt the previous macro to stop it
wintry pilot
does anyone know if a free trial player can be given access to a shared estate as a tenant?
north kernel
Are maps still a good way to make gil? I don't have any craft/gath leveled
No they cannot
tidal yarrow
do people duty finder for wol extreme or pf?
north kernel
wol extreme?
twilit arch
party finder
rotund sable
party finder
twilit arch
unless you're in JP
tidal yarrow
warrior of light
north kernel
oh, the new thing
tidal yarrow
is it under "high end duty"?
twilit arch
and yeah zonureskin is decent gil source if you don't have crafting/gathering
tidal yarrow
cause i never see it there
twilit arch
yes, its under the high end duty section
tidal yarrow
so it's not on trial
ok
oh fuck
i don't have it unlocked
thats why.. how to unlock?
twilit arch
talk to the minstrel in cyrstarium
rotund sable
iirc the minstrel in crystarium
simple pine
when your gear gets scaled down, your skill speed / gcd also becomes slower right? since its just stats on the gear and thus gets lowered
tidal yarrow
yes
simple pine
so for 70 cap stuff people have a different item set to hit their preferred gcd speed?
tidal yarrow
^
north kernel
✋ I am one of those people. Let me tell you how long it took to discover gcd speed could change from materia...
right now.
tidal yarrow
talk to the minstrel in cyrstarium
wow i just unlocked like 5 extremes..
crimson wind
How do I get blue crafter tokens for Anima
twilit arch
have you unlocked collectables
crimson wind
no, my highest crafter atm is 40
twilit arch
ok then you're gonna need to get to 50 atleast before you can do blue scrip turn ins for sand
twilit arch
once you do, there's a quest in Ishgard called "Inscrutable Tastes"
lyric bear
hi guys, i'm at the start of the first expansion (not gonna start still tho), and i'm already at max allagan tomestones, i got already the armor, accesories and weapon, music scrolls and pets too, and i don't know on what can i waste the rest. Only i see are materials (?) that i don't know what are they for
some advice pls¿
twilit arch
once you've done that, should be able to craft collectable turn ins. I would strongly double check at the house of splendors to make sure your turn ins give you yellow scrips before doing any crafting since its been while and i'm not 100% sure if collectables at 50 give scrips or not
if they do, then go to town on scrips and use yellow scrips to buy blue scrip tokens
crimson wind
How much is each token
twilit arch
25 yellow scrips for 1 token
crimson wind
How much is one BSM collectable
obsidian patio
depends on which one you make, and I can't recall how much the lowest level ones give.
twilit arch
looking at GE its 7 min, 8 if max collectable for lvl 50 turn in
obsidian patio
@lyric bear until you reach Idyllshire at level 58-59 in the story there's not much you can really do with excess tomestones of poetics that isn't more equipment for other classes.
crimson wind
ah ok, sand should go pretty fast then
crimson wind
Vilekin is very annoying
obsidian patio
If you have a combat class at 80 you can solo the ARR extreme primals
and buy out the cheapest of their extreme materials
crimson wind
Unsynced EX primals is mind numbing
obsidian patio
just throwing it out there that it's another decent method of getting the sands.
brisk iron
well i did my weapon stuff, now i need pazuzu feathers apparently
guess ill just have to be patient and hope i get some?
twilit arch
you can exchange crystals for the feathers
talk to the birdwatcher
300 protean for 1 feather
crimson wind
Wait does FR start on daily reset
obsidian patio
!reset
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Tick, Tock, Kupo!
twilit arch
fashion report is a bit weird
obsidian patio
I think it uses friday's daily for letting you be judged?
twilit arch
in that it resets on tuesday
but judging doesn't start until friday
no it starts earlier than daily
crimson wind
I've never actually woken up early enough to catch daily reset
since I started doing FR
twilit arch
yeah judging has already started
crimson wind
oh nice
twilit arch
since kaiyoko posted 45mins ago
tidal yarrow
on wol extreme, ice move fire stand holy stack stone spread?
obsidian patio
yep
dusky bear
Question - Follow up on Blu
I'm now lv 50, is my current strategy still the best facing 59's or is there a next step for the final 10 lvls?
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pallid cipher
Does somebody knows what is the oufit the npc of the event wears?
obsidian patio
which npc, the miqote?
pallid cipher
Yup
spiral idol
wintry chasm
Correct
robust notch
Yeah, not worth it
obsidian patio
Level 80 Goldsmith chest/gloves with level 70 goldsmith pants
pallid cipher
Wow
obsidian patio
boots are also crafter-only, being the Swallowskin Shoes
@tidal yarrow you want to be moving just before it and during it
safest method is to do constant moving or constantly jumping
wintry chasm
Also with fire it's stand and don't do anything. Not even autoattacks
If you so much as breathe you die
wintry pilot
@north kernel i just tested the thing with giving a free trial player shared estate access, it does work, just fyi 😉
north kernel
oh cool, I guess it must've been updated cause iirc it used to not be that way. thx :3 now I know a trick for later lol
tender hull
Anyone might know where I can exchange codes with someone? I have an SE code for complete edition and it would be nice if I can switch it for the steam version
The subreddit?
tidal yarrow
@tidal yarrow you want to be moving just before it and during it
@obsidian patio
i keep dying..
while moving.. i don't get it
obsidian patio
if you're getting frozen then you weren't moving
wintry chasm
Casting doesn't count as moving FYI
worthy summit
When is 5.35?
twilit arch
We don't have a date for 5.35
worthy summit
twilit arch
from previous time lines, most likely a month and some weeks from now
cedar compass
is there a linkshell or something to powerlevel BLU?
oak ice
Grab someone from your FC, 80 preferable, go to Azys Lla, tag a mob and he 1-shots them
twilit arch
Eureka, if you can find an active instance
leaden ginkgo
Any other thing of note just to have at mind?
twilit arch
Aetherochemical Research Facility or any of the 100 poetic dungeons assuming decent queue times
hunting thru pf for 1st timer bonus
agile laurel
Would I be correct in assuming ruby ex is one of the easier ones?
Seems barely different from nm
oak ice
Yes
agile laurel
alright
it's the only shb ex i haven't touched at this point so
tempering expectations etc
heady orbit
How long it takes to reach 60 msq?
zinc orbitBOT
wintry chasm
...however long it takes you
It greatly depends on what you end up doing
How fast you read text, duty wait times, what optional stuff you end up wanting to do, etc etc etc
calm steppe
this may be a dumb question but how do i raise the gathering rates in the diadem
wintry chasm
It's not a question that can be given an answer to KM
Use better gear/gathering increasing skills Bronze
vital ruin
Does summoners use any off hand weapons
wintry chasm
No
vital ruin
o
wintry chasm
What's the rate Bronze?
In terms of combat jobs only paladin gets an offhand Tahmeed
calm steppe
nevermind im dumb
prisma glacier
Hey, i'm completely new to the game and playing in the central shroud right now. Every fate i've been to has high levels (i guess?) instakilling everything, and i'm struggling to tag stuff. Is this what it's supposed to be like?
calm steppe
its just the bottom 2 are both 0 still and im like lvl 74
twilit arch
right now there's an event running called yo-kai watch
which has you farm fates in specific zones for medals to exchange for minions/weapons
so its not really the norm
most of the time no one really does fates
prisma glacier
alright, thank you
wintry chasm
Bottom two would be level 80 right? That I can imagine that % chance @calm steppe
calm steppe
yeah like i said im dumb lol
wintry chasm
@prisma glacier should mention it's not them being high level that is doing that since you level sync down, it'd probably be them doing it as blue mage which is a unique job that is really good at killing mobs in the overworld
twilit arch
you can crush plenty of low level fates as things like dnc and such
prisma glacier
all I know is that there's giant aoe explosions that delete everything before I can aero tag them because of gcd lol
lyric bear
guys i need someone to craft me a champion's lance for Gae Bolg quest, where can i ask for help?
frosty badger
how much faux hollows does a clear of the unreal trial give?
median locust
Depends how well you do on the minigame
frosty badger
ok range?
inland zenith
Where can I see my desynthesis level?
twilit arch
character info > classes/jobs > click on Doh/Dol header
can click on the doh classes to bring up the desynthesis skill window
inland zenith
Thank you!!
median locust
10-20 range, +100 if you find the fox
frosty badger
do it have a weekly reset?
median locust
It does, but if you find swords, you can do it one more time
can only get a retelling once a week as well
potent lava
how do you a "group up" call
median locust
a what
potent lava
idk, I vaguely remember hearing about some sort of action that basically say "huddle up here"
median locust
There are no calls in this game beyond marking stuff with numbers and having markers on the ground (which you can't move in battle)
frosty badger
ok i can only have 1 clear weekly to play the minigame?
median locust
If you mean stuff like yellow arrows pointing inwards, that's just part of the fight, players aren't the ones doing that
like I said you can clear a second time and then play a minigame a second time, but you have to find swords in the minigame the first time
frosty badger
and if no swords?
frosty badger
ok thanks!
raven burrow
could someone explain this to me please, im looking to meld materia into my monk gear, i dont quite understand the priorities
obsidian patio
Is that Desperius?
raven burrow
Yeah
obsidian patio
My general recommendation is to not trust YouTube guides in general since they can be easily outdated.
raven burrow
well this vid is from a few days ago
obsidian patio
I also recommend joining The Balance discord for all job optimization info.
!faq balance
zinc orbitBOT
raven burrow
hm okay thanks
obsidian patio
Basically just ignore that awkward middle part in the picture about weapon damage and item level
You almost always want to wear the highest item level gear for that slot
dapper oyster
so few hours ago i asked about the theme in world of darkness final boss
it sounds so familiar and turned out it was remix from cloud of darkness
but then it feels weird because ive never played it
turned out i heard that bgm from this game
DUTY COMPLETED
raven burrow
okay, ill see if i can find th3 info i need in the balance discord
simple pine
sometimes i get french/german people in my duty who don't speak english at all, and their search info only has french/german as known/used language. Does that mean these guys queue up for english without speaking it, or does the duty finder ignore language if the queue is too long?
proud willow
As far as I know, their client has to be set to English in order for you to match with them if you selected English only in DF
median locust
Heard some will queue for English so their queues are quicker even if they don't speak it, yeah. I don't think Duty Finder ignores language settings
proud willow
but I suppose it is possible that it ignores it if the queue is too long
simple pine
my german is only barely good enough to describe base mechanics, but if they are french and don't speak english it's basically a lost cause if they don't know/do mechanics 😦
median locust
No you can definitely change your search info to another language then queue for that language only
Doesn't have to be your client language
simple shore
DF only looks at DF language settings, from both perspectives.
median locust
you can have JP client and queue for English only
simple shore
Client language settings arent a factor
proud willow
I see
simple shore
Though, from what ive heard about EU DC's, setting yourself to E only can have....positive results.
thick elm
does anyone know how the numbers are calculated for chocobo racing? is there a guide or spreadsheet or something on it?
open coral
Not to E only, but just not setting your languages for DF to include F
simple shore
i wasnt gonna say it
simple pine
well i wouldnt set it to french anyways since i don't speak it. i would expect the same the other way around
at least for harder content
open coral
The DF language settings basically just control which other players will be counted in the eligibility pool for queues. It has nothing to do with whether or not you actually speak the language.
simple pine
well yeah, techinically, but i assume the intend was to select the languages you speak :p
open coral
If you only set your options to English and you're on a JP server, you're not going to get a ton of queues.
Same if you only set your language to German or French on an EU server.
median locust
if you set your language to english you get faster queues because tons of people speak it in EU
even if you don't speak it
open coral
^
median locust
haha english setting go brr
and for 90% of content you don't need to communicate with others
and if you do, auto-translate might provide just enough understanding to get by
open coral
Language really only matters if you're going into pugs for Savage/EX content.
simple shore
Even then....
open coral
Because if you can't understand the strats the party leader is saying, you're kind of screwed.
simple shore
tbh half the SoS EX's ive done nobody said a word after zoning in, we just did the "stand at what clock position you want, stand at what LB2 you want" thing and then pulled.
leaden ginkgo
How do I get into the The Crystal Tower? I can’t progress through MSQ without it and I have no idea what it even is
simple pine
Players can start the questline by talking to Outlandish Man at Mor Dhona (x21,y8) then start the quest Legacy of Allag.
leaden ginkgo
I tried looking for it but I can’t find the outlandish man either
He should be right outside of the teleport crystal right?
simple shore
if he's not right by the front door of Rising Stones
then you have accepted the quest or are on a later step
leaden ginkgo
Maybe? But I don’t have any other quests other than the one I can’t progress through
simple pine
sanding it down
a performance of the ages
are the next 2 quests before you actually do the raid
open coral
If you've accepted the quest you should be able to progress through the MSQ though.
simple pine
are you on either of those?
simple shore
Check your quest log, or go to (30, 12.6) to see if there's something there
you'd be looking to talk to Rammbroes over there
leaden ginkgo
Nope I have neither, the only quest I have is the one I can’t progress through without completing the crystal questline 😬
I’ll look in my quest log or looking for Rammbroes again but I couldn’t find him there either
open coral
Can you show us what you're seeing when you go to the coordinates x21, y8 in Mor Dohna?
simple shore
Yes, please screencap and post
warped nest
Or take a picture of your journal
leaden ginkgo
I’m not on my computer rn I’m getting ready for work but I’ll send it later tonight when I’m actually on
open coral
Because by all accounts you've met all of the other requirements for the quest to appear.
leaden ginkgo
I was hoping it was gonna be a simpler answer lol
open coral
There probably is something simple that we're missing.
But since we can't see your screen when you're in the game, the answer is eluding us 😄
gray mortar
is the crystarium gear the best right now ?
open coral
ilevel-wise, and excluding Savage gear, yes.
gray mortar
its slow farming those tokens
open coral
Just do your daily 80/Expert roulettes for a few days and you'll cap in no time.
Or hop on a hunt train
gray mortar
oh I forgot about those
zinc orbitBOT
thorn mantle
hi, should i use the xp from moogle tribe quest for cul or btn?
leaden ginkgo
If I have an alt character on the same DC(Not World) and on the same account, Will I be able to use that Alt to buy stuff that I sell in MB using my Main?
thorn mantle
or maybe i should ask, is cul or btn harder to level up?
elfin wagon
how often does fantasia go on sale
twilit arch
moogles is for crafters only
proven bay
Do your squadron members remain in their basic jobs past level 30?
thorn mantle
ah ok
twilit arch
yes. squadrons can't become jobs
twilit arch
no, but they're dirty cheaters and can use spells below what players can 🤷♀️
proven bay
wdym
twilit arch
you can be in like stone vigil and conjurer squadron can use medica 2
things like that
shut kelp
So what's ninja good for? Utilities?
proven bay
That they don't have access to upgraded jobs
twilit arch
they're in general stronger to make up for the fact that 1. they're dumb and 2. they dont have jobs
inland zenith
So, is there any use to tarnished godian and tarnished alexandrian loot besides the gear you can get?
shut kelp
Besides damage
plain python
in new game+, do your level scale?
inland zenith
It is occupying precious inventory space, and I'm afraid to just throw it out.
twilit arch
Ninja brings trick attack, which is a pretty nice raid utility since its increases everyone's dmg
raven burrow
what does pb mean? the balance guys are very unfriendly and unhelpful
shut kelp
Ahh I see
raven burrow
what is perfect balance, ive never seen that buff on monk
or am i missing something?
inland zenith
Ok, it seems to come quite easy, I'm going to give it an end. Thanks!
twilit arch
!action Perfect Balance
zinc orbitBOT
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pearl dome
Hi everyone; since I can't seem to find mentors in game, is there anyone playing in Spriggan? I'd need someone to create a party for me later today/tomorrow
ionic hazel
does it matter where my retainer sells stuff
like if i put it in limsa it only shows what i sell in limsa?
obsidian patio
In terms of the people buying it, doesn’t matter.
No matter where your retainer is “located” at their goods can be bought at any marketboard
ionic hazel
thats good to know
cus i just got the return to oblivion orchestrion and it sells for a mil each
😂
grizzled gyro
Can you repair gear without having to level armorer?
ionic hazel
yes @grizzled gyro
grizzled gyro
Thanks!
ionic hazel
theyll be indicated by the "hammer" symbol via map
simple pine
parses on fflogs take gear/melds into account right? so you could technically improve parses all the way without upgrading gear?
and the parse distribution looks like a bell curve? is there a way to see parse distribution for a specific fight/class?
grizzled gyro
Wow why didn't I know that? XD
median locust
parses don't take gear or melds into account because they have no way to know what you're using
so you can't get 100 percentile without BiS, unless other people suck
which uh, good luck on that
and not sure what kind of parse distribution you're looking for
cedar compass
whats a good area with high level 50 mob density?
or level 49
(before HW)
for BLU level powerleveling
median locust
Probably Northern Thanalan
simple shore
I grinded the gigas by the entrance to crystal tower at that level
median locust
That too
median locust
It doesn't
cedar compass
im level 41 BLU atm, somone is helpiong via i tag they kill
simple pine
i thought it was essentially a bot program reading the game's memory. so i guess it's a choice not to read ilvl/gear
median locust
It reads a specific chat channel and that's about it
simple shore
basically
median locust
If the chat channel doesn't have the info, it doesn't have it
crimson crystal
Does glamour count for fashion report (can I have the suggested gear as glamour)?
median locust
Yes
Also, even for plugins that read memory, they don't know what you currently have equipped
you have to switch between classes and THEN they know what you have equipped
gray mortar
Is the Seat of Sacrifice EX in a different tab ?
Its not in my duty finder after accepting it
median locust
Yes, it's in the High End Duty section
simple shore
You probably do not want to be using DF to do it though
gray mortar
why ?
median locust
random pic off google
Never queue for Extreme primals
Use Party Finder
unless you're a party finder's party leader and need to queue for it of course
median locust
Farm tomes, run Eden's Verse normal, buy crafted gear, run Copied Factory for your weekly 490 piece and crystarium upgrade, etc
get your iLv485 relic weapon
if you don't have it
gray mortar
oh copied factory gives a 490 ?
median locust
Yeah, one piece of 490 left side gear per week
agile laurel
puppets' bunker
median locust
brain does not want to accept the existence of the actual copied factory because it was so boring and forgettable
gray mortar
Edens verse gives better gear ?
median locust
480 gear
agile laurel
iirc
median locust
and you need 480 for SoS EX iirc
agile laurel
500 savage ofc and that's the best source of gear but also the most difficult
gray mortar
I assumed cos Edens has been out for ages the gear is out dated
leaden ginkgo
hey uh so if you got the "free trial" from last may you cant continue with the free game now?
agile laurel
nope
median locust
Like the free starter edition? Nope
agile laurel
new gear progression tiers come out on major patches
median locust
If you own the game in any way, you can't play the free trial
median locust
Odd numbered patches (5.1, 5.3, 5.5) are just catchup patches that add more ways to get decent gear
there's no new, higher ilevel gear
gray mortar
just old but updated to represent the patch power ?
zinc orbitBOT
cedar compass
which blue mage spells should i get for the yokai fate grind?
agile laurel
glower, ram's voice, bad breath and plaincracker should be sufficient
ofc there's better options and more options but those will do
median locust
Missile is also really good, too good in fact from what I've heard. You'll kill stuff faster than other people can get credit on the fate which would piss people off. So it might be a good option in a month or two when way less people are doing the event
simple shore
or just use it now and no regrets
strange coral
Do it now, use PF, and when people complain, tell them to join the party
dusky bear
Hi guys I can't seem to find my next blue class quest : https://i.imgur.com/aCGAPNo.png i google, says next is lv 10, and i'm in ul'dah there is no quest giver
simple shore
Missile allows you to kill any boss fate which is vulnerable to it in about 6 seconds flat from 100% HP
agile laurel
@dusky bear ※The next blue mage quest will be available from Martyn upon reaching level 10 and learning Blood Drain
simple shore
Then you're in the wrong location
Near Miner's guild. Where the BLM NPC is if you know that.
agile laurel
Ul'dah - Steps of Thal (X:12.5, Y:13.0)
dusky bear
oh yeah steps of thal is a 2-step area meanwhile me being near alchemist guild wondering where the heck the npc is
thanks guys
spark wren
if i bought the game from NA store and my mogstation acct is jp, can i input the game into the mogstation?
dusky bear
Depends on your Base Game.
dusky bear
You should be fine then, I've an eu account but NA game I know I can't use EU codes cuz my base is NA
spark wren
thanks
wintry chasm
That... shouldn't work
Account and codes are region locked
I think you might be confused Rahel
dusky bear
i'm fairly certain i've euro prices
wintry chasm
Euro prices is EU
dusky bear
yeah but when i bought from eu store game, i couldn't upgrade cuz apparently my game base was NA - had the same issue with customer service just recently
dusky bear
with euro prices 
wintry chasm
...what?
dusky bear
how do i show region
wintry chasm
Mogstation and then it's like, account settings and there should be a region option there
It's not hard to find
dusky bear
so under acc settings got it
crimson notch
im always lagging, net freezing, every big pulls in dungeons, espeically in alliance raids, anyone having the same problem as me? i cant do dungeons right now >.<
dusky bear
dusky bear
yeah but i can't use eu codes to upgrade already been through this with customer support
wintry chasm
I'm so confused
dusky bear
trust me it's annoying each time i take a break and return and forget.
so my understandment is that they just care about your base game and thus upgrade from there.
wintry chasm
But the account and code is region locked so that shouldn't have worked in the first place
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Oh well
lavish vortex
is there a website where i can see the raw materials for a recipe like in the game?
median locust
https://ffxivteamcraft.com/ is really useful
Pick an item, make a list (or quick list) and it'll list out every single material you need and how to get them
lavish vortex
nice!!, thanks!
another one, i sometimes see neo ishgardian gear with 5 materia slots instead of 2, how do you craft those?
weary ivy
Hello i have a question about jobs
So like can i just use black mage job while being a conjurer?
dusky bear
No
lavish vortex
@median locust thanks!
median locust
But you can switch between them whenever you want outside of dungeons
or combat in general
dusky bear
You need to go to ul'da join the thaumaturge guild and reach level 30 + clear all class quests each 5 lvls as in 1,5,10,15,20,25,30 (and finally 30 again for black mage quest)
Jobs in this game is like a 2nd stage of each class, so black mage is 2nd stage of thaumaturge.
grizzled gyro
What is a good way to earn gil? lvl 55<
dusky bear
Eairly on questing will get you far
later on collecting materials for crafters to buy off you.
end game, craft things yourself and sell accordingly to demand
lyric warren
i bought the new wagon mount yesterday but i still havent got it ?
dusky bear
or, farm fashion, and sell fashion
weary ivy
Yes but like you equip a token to be a white mage. IF i equip black mages token while im a conjurer can i heal and deal damage at the same time?
winged solar
hi, do I need to grind dungeons past 2.0 patch in order to get as much of the currency to obtain the best gear possible that is before lv60?
wintry chasm
i bought the new wagon mount yesterday but i still havent got it ?
@lyric warren check if your mailbox is full, the delivery service might be a bit busy as well since it's new
Give it a bit and try that "force send"
winged solar
or is the currency reward for the first completion only?
dusky bear
IF you bought an item on Mogstation go to your mail and click on "request mails"
- make sure you do not have more then 20 mailsfrom square enix already as that's the cap, simple deleting an old mail will do
- sometimes it can take up to several days getting an item, i was told to wait entirely 7 days before i could make a ticket about it. - and received it after 14 hours after initial purchase
lyric warren
@wintry chasm ye i have space and been spamming the force button
median locust
You get a poetics bonus for doing something for the first time, but you still get poetics after the first time
You can grind if you want but it's not really necessary
median locust
Can only get it from poetics so yeah
wintry chasm
It's not much of a grind since you get loads of poetics from basically everything
winged solar
everything=?
lyric warren
ugh seems it can take up to 7 days lol before u have to "file a report"
weary ivy
Is it worth to buy the game till lvl 60?
dusky bear
I actually got a one final BLU job relevant question, i just realized there is an ability requirement for each quest. i'm already lv 60, i'm just trying to get all unlocks and am a completionist
The level 10 quest requires that you learn Blood Drain.
The level 20 quest requires that you learn Mind Blast.
The level 30 quest requires that you learn Faze.
The level 40 quest requires that you learn 1000 Needles.
The level 50 quest requires that you learn Glower.
is this the entire list or is there more between 50-60? this will prolly be my final Blu Question lol
wintry chasm
Every piece of content level 50 up will be giving you poetics now basically. Roulettes, the billion optional dungeons, raids, etc etc @winged solar
simple shore
50-60 has more requirements, yes
soft sleet
Hi, I can't work out the difference between the free trial and the starter edition which is 12 quid. They both advertise as including heavensward?
karmic niche
yes
soft sleet
Trying to get my gf set up and playing
wintry chasm
Is it worth to buy the game till lvl 60?
@weary ivy you mean before 60? there are some social restrictions/Gil restrictions and whatnot. Up to you if it matters but I'd say it's not a huuuge deal
median locust
Starter Edition basically only removes social restrictions and gil restrictions
wintry chasm
^
soft sleet
Right
wintry chasm
(and the other restrictions)
soft sleet
What are the Gil restrictions?
median locust
Can only have.... I think 300,000? Gil on you at a time while on the free trial
soft sleet
Yeah I know ha
dusky bear
can always buy gold pieces i guess
soft sleet
It'll be fine to get started though
dusky bear
ooh
soft sleet
Are there any social restrictions that could impact us playing together?
amber ingot
is there any way to swap for example a pyros drk weapon to a pld one without having to farm it all agai nfrom the start?
median locust
You can't invite each other to a party to play together
grizzled mural
What dps goes good with ninja?
median locust
If you want to be in the same party, you need to ask someone who owns the game to invite you both, then leave the party
Which can be a hassle
soft sleet
Well I own the game
median locust
No problem then!
soft sleet
Haha thanks
spark wren
if i create a new character in a standard server, can i immediately use world transfer? and can i transfer to a congested server?
Home World Transfer Service**
simple shore
Why would you do that?
median locust
So there's 2 kinds of congested, congested because too many people are online at the current moment, and capital C Congested which means nobody can get in there ever, even using world transfer
wintry chasm
Last I checked there is no congested worlds
spark wren
tonberry
median locust
There are currently no capital C Congested worlds
simple shore
Tonberry is not "Congested"
wintry chasm
^
median locust
So yes you could do that, but you could also try to create a character during dead hours of the night
spark wren
ahhh
median locust
And it would also work
spark wren
ok
wintry chasm
Please for the love of God don't use the transfer
spark wren
thanks
median locust
You just can't right now because too many people are online
faint flare
@amber ingot no there isnt
simple shore
its based on who is online, not how many characters exist
median locust
that's the only reason
simple shore
I cant speak for JP datacentrs
wintry chasm
Yeah
grizzled mural
Hey what dps goes well with ninja
simple shore
but for NA, i always suggest 5AM-7AM EST.
spark wren
i wasnt able to create awhile ago
simple shore
So the "JP Equivalent" of that time might be good
faint flare
Any of them badman
spark wren
thanks
leaden ginkgo
Is it important that I set my game language to english to know the english names of things and stuff like that?
grizzled mural
Yeah but doesn’t Machinist work really good with specific dps
wintry chasm
What would you set it to normally?
faint flare
No
leaden ginkgo
german
faint flare
Thats no longer a thing anymore badman
wintry chasm
You'll be fiiine
lavish vortex
can i spend tomestones of poetics in something that can be sold?
wintry chasm
I'd just do you
leaden ginkgo
ok thanks
Can i just skip every dialogue and cutscene during the 80+ quests after real reborn? Do they matter at all ?
faint flare
Syngeries and specific comps are gone
simple shore
They matter
faint flare
Yes matter
wintry chasm
There is an auto translate function for a lot of phrases anyway like skill names if you really get stuck @leaden ginkgo
faint flare
They set up heavensward
leaden ginkgo
Sigh
wintry chasm
Really they set up two expansions
simple shore
post-ARR sets up HW, but it also is heavily relevant to Shadowbringers
leaden ginkgo
thats nice
If I have an alt character on the same DC(Not World) and on the same account, Will I be able to use that Alt to buy stuff that I sell in MB using my Main?
simple shore
You'll get rekt on the market tax exchange though if you're purely looking to transfer money
grizzled mural
Do specific dps mesh well with other specific dps
simple shore
The only real exception i would say is that Dancer is....particularly good with some DPS over others
grizzled mural
Aww damn really?
open coral
Yeah, the closest you'll get is stuff like DNC partner priorities or DRG eye choices.
median locust
Yeah, you give a passive 5% damage buff to someone else, which obviously will be more effective on DPS with higher numbers
grizzled mural
That’s wack
simple shore
Actually i was thinking more Devilment
Devilment is disproportionately good on some DPS over others
median locust
That too and Esprit gauge
grizzled mural
Well anyway I have a full party and want to fill in a dps roll but I don’t know what to play
simple shore
Well, play whatever you want that isnt a duplicate of something they have
median locust
Make sure you have 1 Melee, 1 Ranged Physical and 1 Caster. If you already do, play whatever you want
simple shore
and fits the role thy need
magic light
devilment made my burst period go from 20k to 31k
zinc orbitBOT
magic light
but, was it worth it?
median locust
You get 1% main stat boost per role you bring. So having a role missing is a big loss
open coral
Well-timed Devilment will give anyone a nice boost to their burst.
grizzled mural
It’s dark knight, scholar, and ninja
open coral
That's a light party
grizzled mural
Oh
median locust
For light parties it doesn't matter in any way shape or form
open coral
Pick a ranged dps though
simple shore
waht you play in 4 mans basically doesnt matter, ever
grizzled mural
Cool
faint flare
Pick any really. Especially if it's dungeon stuff
grizzled mural
I kinda wanted to play arc till I got bard for the harp
open coral
But yeah, dungeon comp doesn't really matter much.
faint flare
Even high end content it doesn't matter as long as there's no duplicates
open coral
Harp...
gritty oracle
As AST, if I'm rapid firing cards for an opener or something, and f.e there's a melee, I card them, and get another melee card, should I card the rangeds or the tank? Or overwrite the existing card on the melee?
faint flare
Tank
open coral
I think the priority is melee > tank for melee cards.
gritty oracle
Thanks!
magic light
does embolden stack?
gritty oracle
Hb if I run out of rangeds? Just card myself or what?
median locust
I thiiiiink so?
faint flare
Yes
median locust
(for embolden)
open coral
Yeah, range > healer for ranged cards.
median locust
Wait maybe not
gritty oracle
It does if it's different
gritty oracle
If you're a RDM and you embolden at the same time, you and the other RDM get two, others get kne
median locust
if people already have melee, then another melee buff probably wouldn't stack
gritty oracle
I meant the embolden
median locust
Like you'll both get your own magic buffs and each others' melee buffs
but I doubt others would get 2 melee buffs
gritty oracle
Embolden has two buffs: magic+ for you and phys+ for others. Magic+ and phys+ stacks, phys+ and phys+ doesn't
TLDR: don't overlap embolden
magic light
what is "get kne"
magic light
others get kne
agile laurel
If you're a RDM and you embolden at the same time, you and the other RDM get two, others get kne
faint flare
Get one, probably typo
queen ember
hey i have a problem, i have to do a skybuilders rope but i only can do a grade 2 skybuilders rope cause i only obtain grade 2 items
queen ember
okay ty
median locust
And Phase 2 stuff will be useless when they introduce phase 3 on September 8th
and the cycle continues
tidal yarrow
on e5s, the third stepped leader is not scripted right?
median locust
Nope, have to check if he has the buff or not
If he does, it's a donut
If he doesn't, you have to move
tidal yarrow
oh yeye