even with the optimization of DNC I'd say it's easier
#questions-and-help
thick bolt
static yacht
your entire rotation
half kraken
@high level dnc is ultra easy still lol
wispy parcel
SAM is literally 
thick bolt
MCH has such little optimization MCH doesn't even have an optimization channel in the balance
half kraken
Lmao
thick bolt
You don't want to save, you have no alternative opener like 90% of the classes during shiva who have to change things around so they can get buffs before add phase
you press on CD and don't drift
half kraken
This is why non dps is best because even if their kit sucks the role is still very involved
static yacht
thats literally just repeating what I said at that point LOL
thick bolt
if you drift you lose damage
factual squall
whm is a glare mage but with lilys which are pretty basic, they're very involved
fallow juniper
Are free trials allowed retainers yet in this improved trial version or still nah?
faint flare
No
wispy parcel
You dont get them no
faint flare
Restrictions haven't changed at all
half kraken
Retainers would let you sell stuff
Oh man the lack of retainers means no item storage that must suck
fallow juniper
Yeah storage is main reason I’m asking
static yacht
no changes in trial limitations
half kraken
Ok easy just don't play any doh/dol your storage problems are solved
static yacht
only change to trial is you can do up to HS now
faint flare
Or learn inventory management
wispy parcel
Throw out old useless crap
half kraken
Why manage inventory when you can be a psychotic hoarder
I definitely need these potions at 80
fallow juniper
Staying away from DOL and DOH will be hard cause I used unlimited free trial time last time to level them all to 35 haha and craft level-BiS gear
limpid lynx
hrm, now that 5.3 is out I'm thinking of rejoining my NN
half kraken
Oh speaking of which do DoMs actually use ethers?
leaden ginkgo
I am new to this game and need to find a guild that will help new players when I start playing
limpid lynx
I'd love to find more new people to play with but I had to leave my NN because it just got depressing
faint flare
No squall, not really
limpid lynx
It was just a bunch of crowns saying that 5.0 sucks and that we all should stop playing
faint flare
Except blm very rarely for quad flare memes
strange yarrow
@leaden ginkgo youll find many free company that'll help you just keep an eye out for chat recruiters
limpid lynx
semi-related note, what exactly are fellowships and how do they differ from FCs?
half kraken
I feel like healers may wanna have an x-ether ready for when they get revived so they can instantly start healing
Since lucid dreaming takes a bit to recharge your mp
static yacht
when you are progging super healing heavy stuff like ultimates
wispy parcel
Fellowships are basically an in-game messaging board
wispy parcel
I dont know many people who use fellowships
thick bolt
Lucid dreaming recharges what you need pretty fast
and all healers have some kind of secondary mana regen
wispy parcel
They are kinda redundant
thick bolt
although I do use super ether when I progged e8s as an AST
pale vine
Hey everyone. I’m planning to play the game when i get off work. Which server has the most NA people? Or does it matter which server i choose?
static yacht
doesn't matter
Primal / Aether - Raid oriented
Crystal - More Casual
Choose a preferred server
wispy parcel
Balmung has the most people but the server doesnt matter what matters is DC
leaden ginkgo
Yeah
static yacht
go to primal / aether
pale vine
What server would you guys suggest for starters?
limpid lynx
@pale vine If you end up playing Primal this evening and want someone to play with I'd be down. The early stuff is mostly pretty basic, though
wispy parcel
If ur into endgame raiding than aether or primal
leaden ginkgo
I know what RPing is but what is ERPing?
wispy parcel
If ur casual Crystal
half kraken
Balmung is the RP world in Crystal
static yacht
erotic RP
leaden ginkgo
Oh yeah, it would be nice to avoid that sort of thing
tidal yarrow
how do I unlock expert roulette?
wispy parcel
Balmung is also the largest server in the game
static yacht
stay away from limsa as well
tidal yarrow
and how do I unlock level 80 roulette
faint flare
Do story yuuko
pale vine
@limpid lynx if i can play with someone from lvl 1 i can go to primal 😀
faint flare
For expert
tidal yarrow
I am at 5.2 o.o
half kraken
Expert is 5.3
faint flare
80 roulette needs the side dungeons in eulmore and crystarium
There's a new dungeon in 5.3
half kraken
I didn't know balmung is the largest server in the whole game interesting
limpid lynx
I could do that! I have a level 11 gladiator and a level 50 scholar but I'd be down to level a lancer from 1 until we reach my gladiator's level!
tidal yarrow
do they give allegory or anything useful?
wispy parcel
Over 100K characters on balmung alone
Used to be so full before the server split no one could join it
leaden ginkgo
Ok so primal / aether?
half kraken
Split?
leaden ginkgo
For less ERPING?
pale vine
Yes please. I’m planning on making a black mage 😀
half kraken
Your world matters more than server for rp stuff imo
wispy parcel
Crystal didnt always exist, it used to just be Aether and Primal
static yacht
there's a lot more HC raid heavy people on giilg
and AFAIK, their RP community is very small
so less chance of seeing awkward in world ERP
wispy parcel
Crystal was added in 4.2 and half the servers from aether and primal were put in crystal
leaden ginkgo
Yeah, I know to avoid Balmung
wispy parcel
Tbf most of the really bad shit in balmung is behind closed doors
static yacht
its mateus that does the heavy blatent ERP
wispy parcel
You will never see it out in the open
Yes my sever that was once so sweet was tainted with the dreggs of Balmung
leaden ginkgo
How is Jenova?
half kraken
I once entered a door I shouldn't have in a balmung fc and I'm scarred for life
static yacht
from this thread
it talks about RP communities on Aether
so you probably want to just avoid any of these servers on aether
wispy parcel
Oh if you join a preffered server you get in XP bonus btw
static yacht
so ignore jenova
wispy parcel
Might as well join one of those
half kraken
Are preferred servers just ones with lower populations?
half kraken
Imo if you wanna make gil I'd recommend joining the world with highest prices on your dc
static yacht
only thing server really matters for is
- housing
- FC
- market board
for 3) its more amount of profit you can make
and potential 4) Competition
wispy parcel
For market board you can world visit other servers on ur DC
static yacht
^
half kraken
I made a mil gil reselling stuff I bought from another world on my world yesterday
static yacht
if your competition on the market board sells low
you need to match
otherwise you don't make money
wispy parcel
Yea but u can get the same items for potentially cheaper prices
static yacht
on some servers competition is less so you can sell for higher prices
half kraken
If you wanna buy something for cheap just go to another world on your DC then
static yacht
for selling
half kraken
The only thing is it takes a min
half kraken
You make money from buying if reselling
static yacht
and sell at a loss?
static yacht
IDK no one is going to server hop
and buy out tier 3 tinctures
and sell them for lower
when you can craft the same
and they'll sell out within 5 minutes
half kraken
I got a bunch of slithersand for 100k from Marlboro yesterday, sold them for 180k on Coeurl
static yacht
isn't slithersand the new mat
half kraken
Yeah
faint flare
From dwarves
half kraken
Patch day is the best day to make money after all
static yacht
don't think you can compare new mat on
patch day to general market
patch day always throws a wrench into prices
half kraken
Patch week profits>other profits
static yacht
not necessarily true
half kraken
Prices get crazy you can earn a lot for significantly less effort
static yacht
yea
in terms of effort
but that only happens like
once every 6 months or so
so to choose your server based on that is omegalul
half kraken
Well I wouldn't choose a server solely based on that lol
Just something to keep in mind
Reselling has always been my way to make a quick buck in mmos
twilit arch
y'all can argue about it elsewhere
leaden ginkgo
Ok, can someone DM me and help me out?
thick bolt
http://puu.sh/GhbJm.png anyone else getting this today?
tidal yarrow
I made a mil gil reselling stuff I bought from another world on my world yesterday
how did it go
@half kraken
half kraken
5 mins of work lol
mild ermine
Just grinde the fate for moonfaire items right?
tidal yarrow
ye
nova umbra
it's not feasible to have a glamour for every crafter/gatherer right? Because you can't change glamour outside of cities?
faint flare
Well you're mainly crafting in somewhere were you can glamour
leaden ginkgo
^
raven sage
Gatherers would be more annoying to try that with
Plus there's also the fact that you have to give up plates for your combats
median locust
@nova umbra You can if you want to sacrifice almost all your glamour plates
but yeah you usually would craft in cities lol
nova umbra
oof... this feels bad 😦
zinc orbitBOT
stiff osprey
what are the names of the best end game hp/mp potions?
weary folio
I'm trying to get a particular piece of gear from a dungeon would it be better to run it using the trust system or should i just queue up normally
nova umbra
Super-Potion and Super-Ether
median locust
you don't use hp/mp potions at end game
faint flare
Not that anyone uses them
static yacht
@weary folio what level
faint flare
Worthless
weary folio
80
nova umbra
but Super-Potion is trash, whereas Super-Ether can be useful
static yacht
if you do trusts you get ALL the gear
but you have a chance of not getting the correct gear
median locust
HQ Super Potions restore 6,000 HP when you have 110,000
static yacht
and its 30 minutes per trust
nova umbra
Super-Potion is useful in palace of the dead though
stiff osprey
i was mostly just curious
weary folio
oh i see
median locust
endgame means level 80 to me
faint flare
Use sustain pots in palace
static yacht
you also only get 1 treasure chest
pine marsh
Hey guys noob too the game here can someone tell me why i cant open a weapon coffer i just got from a quest
static yacht
1 item per treasure chest*
median locust
Use both tbh
static yacht
if you do it normally
median locust
Sustain AND Supers
static yacht
you can get 2 items per treasure chest
nova umbra
what are sustain pots?
static yacht
so if no one rolls
faint flare
You need to be in a city to open coffers
static yacht
you can get more
faint flare
Sustain pots give you a potent regen for 45s
static yacht
but either way you get 100% on piece of gear that you don't have on you
for your class
faint flare
Buy with potshards
nova umbra
oh neat
static yacht
oh nvm
vivid wolf
can you dye glamour items or do you need to reglam it?
static yacht
thats only for leveling
weary folio
alright ill keep on grinding its a pain trying to get the striking head piece from the grand cosmos
static yacht
on average
it may be faster to queue normally
but if its a trust you can probably
just do the boss that drops striking head piece
then leave
if it doesnt' drop
median locust
@nova umbra Sustain pots can only be used in Palace of the Dead, important note lol.
And there's a different version of it for Heaven on High and another for Eureka
pine marsh
just went too a city and still couldnt open the coffer
static yacht
@weary folio yeah do trusts
median locust
actual city or just a settlement
static yacht
you only need to do up to 2nd boss
pine marsh
new gridania
median locust
what's the coffer's name
static yacht
do up to 2nd boss and if head piece doesn't drop quit and redo it
median locust
are you on a battle class and not a crafter/gatherer
pine marsh
level 90 weapon coffer, and yes im on a samurai
weary folio
oh thanks i didn't know that
super helpful of ya
median locust
samurai don't have a level 90 weapon I don't think
candid raptor
They don't ye
static yacht
also there should be a single treasure chest
pine marsh
ah ok
static yacht
before the 2nd boss that has a chance of dropping the head piece as well
median locust
you get a better one from the starter samurai gear anyway
static yacht
so you have 2 chances each time you run it
median locust
It's item level 115
pine marsh
okay sweet, ty
half kraken
Does shiva unreal have any tank swap or can I just OT and chill?
static yacht
yes
faint flare
With cooldown usage you can get by without it but you should swap
static yacht
otherwise you are making the healers
half kraken
When do I swap?
faint flare
When she changes weapons
static yacht
sword applies a buff that makes them take more damage from staff
half kraken
Ah so one for staff one for sword
half kraken
Gotchaa
tropic summit
Is it me or does the new daily challenge Frontline give a lot less xp?
I used to get one or close to one whole level but today, I only got 1/6th
static yacht
its a stacking debuff tho
half kraken
Yeah understood use one tank for each weapon type
static yacht
but either way just tank swap properly so your healers can dps
and not hate you
cause AFAIK the DPS check is kinda stingy
faint flare
There's also the bow in last phase bur thats just high crit rate
static yacht
if people aren't purple+
nova umbra
Do I just craft a ton of rosewood lumber?
since apparently equipment can't be mass desynthed >:T
finite ferry
is there ever a moonfaire rerun of equips or just buy in mogstation
static yacht
if its not on the mogstation after a year there's a small chance they just repeat the event
like with the DQ event
deft quiver
How long does it take on average to get all combat + crafter to 80?
agile laurel
Anyone happen to know how flower crossbreeding works?
wispy parcel
All Combat AND crafters?
wintry compass
easiest flying mount ?
wispy parcel
Like
wintry compass
and what lvl do i need to be
deft quiver
All mounts fly now
wispy parcel
500 hours
wintry compass
you mean my chocobo flies?
median locust
All mounts fly, no exceptions
faint flare
Yes
wispy parcel
Yea you just need to beat the 2.0 msq to unlock flying in the ARR areas
deft quiver
I believe all mounts were changed to flying now
median locust
You just have to unlock flying in the first place
deft quiver
Yup
wintry compass
wheres that ?
median locust
Depends
faint flare
Yea you just need to beat the 2.0 msq to unlock flying in the ARR areas
median locust
For ARR areas, beat the Ultima Weapon quest
faint flare
Aka complete ultimate weapon
wintry compass
im only lvl 34 idk if im there yet
deft quiver
No
faint flare
Far from it
deft quiver
You gotta get to lvl 50 quests
wintry compass
ohh
wispy parcel
Thats the final quest in the base games story
faint flare
Its the start of the lv50 stuff
deft quiver
Just keep going with you msq
wintry compass
so no flying before then ?
faint flare
No
wispy parcel
Nope
deft quiver
Pre?
faint flare
Expansion zones you need to find aether currents
wintry compass
before the 5.3
median locust
No flying before then, no
ionic elbow
How many times in a day I can get gear from the new 24 raid ? is it once per day ?
faint flare
!faq flying
zinc orbitBOT
median locust
5.3 is already out
faint flare
Nier is once a week
remote lintel
@ionic elbow once per week
wintry compass
yee but i was wondering bout pre 5.3
ionic elbow
So if I got one gloves , I need to play next week to role for another gear ?
wintry compass
if all i had to do was get a flying mount
ionic elbow
ouch
deft quiver
If you need 480 gear run E5N-E8N, no limit for the armor tokens
remote lintel
5.3 didn't change anything about flying except in ARR
ionic elbow
What about music roles ?
faint flare
For arr, just complete Ultimate weapon
For expansions zones, you get all tje aether currents
wispy parcel
Before 5.3 flying was only unlocked once you reached Heavensward Content and you couldnt fly in ARR
wintry compass
ohh so pre 5.3 i still had to complete that quest
faint flare
For that zone
Then you can fky
Flying was just added to arr, you couldn't fly prior to yesterday in arr
Only expansion zones
remote lintel
before 5.3 you couldn't fly in ARR areas at all
wintry compass
ohhhh
gleaming finch
If you already have 8 members in your squadron, can you still get more recruit paperwork? I know you can't hire them without dismissing somebody, but can they still show up?
wintry compass
i see
gleaming finch
yea, its so weird seeing arr places from above
faint flare
Yes land
gleaming finch
thanks vinyl
faint flare
People show up and you'll have the option to dismiss someone if you want the mew guy
wintry compass
cool things i can buy with flame seals?
wispy parcel
You can buy glamour prisms with the seals and if you want you can get their armor, but a lot of it is locked via your company rank
wintry compass
what does their armor look like
silver star
Does it matter what city I align myself with for the MSQ?
wispy parcel
Whichever one you like the look of more
median locust
Some gear can only be used if you're in a certain city but ultimately that's only for the looks
and even then
you can change your mind later
tidal yarrow
can I do e5s before having cleared all the previous ones?
silver star
Maelstrom 100%
faint flare
Yes
median locust
Need to clear normal mode up to E8 first
faint flare
Itd a different tier
median locust
then yes
wintry compass
can i get any for glamour ?
faint flare
You have to do all the fights in that tier in order
wintry compass
i like the flame lieutenants
candid raptor
So go for flames
wispy parcel
All of them can be gotten for glamour but you have to rank up in your grand company to get them
Running supply missions and the like
wintry compass
so i just go to my grand company lvl my rank with them and get the armor and glamour
candid raptor
Also need to be in said GC to actually glam the items
wintry compass
say i get better armor do i have to reglam to the new armor ?
crimson wind
How long should it take for me to level a crafter from 20-80 off of Restoration?
granite swan
I feel like they shoulda given you your mount when you became the hero of the first town at like 15 ... so much running
crimson wind
k
wintry compass
how do i check my rank?
remote lintel
character
wintry compass
and to lvl the gc rank i do missions from them ?
remote lintel
turn in seals and do the quests they tell you to do
then for higher ranks you do squadron stuff
faint flare
And their hunting logs
wintry compass
how long do you think it would take me to get the lieutenants armor?
remote lintel
for a new player prob a while
wintry compass
oof
remote lintel
i think it's lvl 50 or something anyway
wintry compass
i just wanted it for glamour
remote lintel
still have to be lvl 50
nimble pulsar
So I am a bit confused here... I currently have a Trial Account for FFXIV. I bought a copy of Shadowbringers Collectors Edition (Because why not, it's on sale), but my code doesn't work.
Now I believe the issue stems from the fact that I haven't bought and redeemed Realm Reborn. Should I just wait for the game to enhance the F2P (as I saw that more of the game is going F2P soon) or should I just bite the bullet and pay for Realm Reborn too? I don't plan on actually playing the game for another month or two, but I wanted to catch this sale
leaden ginkgo
is FFXIV all about questing?
median locust
You need the base game as well as the expansions
remote lintel
you can buy the base game and not input the code
@leaden ginkgo yes its story heavy
median locust
You're trying to play the DLC to a game you do not own
faint flare
The code doesn't work cause you dont own the base game
remote lintel
also the trial extension is already out
nimble pulsar
Well the thing is, I already bought the Shadowbringers collectors edition. I wanted the extra stuff that came with the collectors edition but I didn't see an option with all of that combined
leaden ginkgo
@leaden ginkgo yes its story heavy
@remote lintel so if i dont enjoy questing, and prefer to play more pve, group/solo explore stuff this game isnt gonna be for me?
remote lintel
you can upgrade to the collector's edition from mog station
median locust
Complete Edition has base game + expansions
faint flare
Story is MANDATORY to do raids and stuff
median locust
then you can upgrade to collector's editions from the account maganement page
nimble pulsar
Oh, well I guess I screwed up because I already bought the collectors edition 😦
median locust
Then buy the base game and you'll be good
leaden ginkgo
Story is MANDATORY to do raids and stuff
@faint flare but does it eventually end? or is the game always quest based?
nimble pulsar
Oh really? Sweet!
remote lintel
the story is continuous
lone cairn
would anyone want to give me his friend code for recommendation?
remote lintel
@nimble pulsar don't input the code for the base game if you don't want to pay yet
median locust
It ends when you're on current patch content, until more story comes out
remote lintel
i can avackon
faint flare
Its a MMO 2nd
lone cairn
would appreciate that
faint flare
FF game first
nimble pulsar
Is buying it Okay as long as I don't use the code until I am ready?
leaden ginkgo
how similar is it to WoW in questing/group content balance? i am happy to do the main story line and stop but im not sure if majority of content in this game is questing thats what im trying to work out 🙂
faint flare
Yes
remote lintel
you're talking about the refer a friend code right? @lone cairn
lone cairn
@remote lintel yes
nimble pulsar
And the edition I am looking for is FFXIV Online Starter Edition?
faint flare
Yes
remote lintel
@lone cairn 4WXHPVWJ
median locust
Main story is questing + dungeons + bosses
wispy parcel
@leaden ginkgo the way XIV is structured is like a TV series. Each expansion is a new season of a show building of the previous , its very story heavy
median locust
with cutscenes
lusty shuttle
So i got to level 27 and im not a big fan of the job/class i selected and want to level a alt job/class but im not sure how to go about it
remote lintel
hunt logs, fates, challenge log, highest lvl dungeon
nimble pulsar
I am guessing I will need to buy Stormblood though, right?
faint flare
No
leaden ginkgo
i guess i meant story in terms of it exclusively being things to do for NPCs, i dont mind social quests
median locust
Shadowbringers includes Stormblood
wispy parcel
Best way I can describe it is that FFXIV is a JRPG first and an MMO second
faint flare
Shadowbringers has all the expansions
nimble pulsar
Oh sweet!
median locust
Base game is A Realm Reborn + Heavensward
Shadowbringers is Stormblood + Shadowbringers
and that's all you need
lone cairn
wait it tells me this function doesnt work for a few minutes
nimble pulsar
Heck yeah, thank you everyone 😄
remote lintel
@leaden ginkgo the main storyline is pretty long so it's a lot of quests, but if you enjoy a good story you'll like it and each expansion has side content like raids and stuff that you can do to take a break
the game is like 75% story though
wispy parcel
@lusty shuttle all the starter towns have a guild that lets you do a quest to unlock another Job
They all have a 
wintry chasm
Does anyone know what part of the launcher identifies if it's the first time you open it or not? I need someone to delete the launcher and reinstall it so they can click "yes I already have an account" but I want to make sure the important part gets deleted to get that option
lusty shuttle
@wispy parcel yeah i found those its just the side quests barely give xp
remote lintel
maybe hank knows?
wispy parcel
Ahh then hunts and dungeons are the best way to level where your currently at
lusty shuttle
@wispy parcel so hunts to level 15 then dungeons got it thank you
wintry compass
does the market board have pets i can buy
wispy parcel
Yea some of them are pretty expensive tho
wintry compass
@lusty shuttle you can look at your duty finder and there will be a lvl section which will put you in dungeons that will give you the most exp
raw robin
Hi everyone! any clue if we have more info yet on if aura are dragonkin? I need to know as for rp purposes but can't find info anywhere 😂
remote lintel
they aren't related to dragons
remote lintel
well human-like
raw robin
Has that been confirmed anywhere? i'd like sources..
lusty shuttle
@wintry compass okay ty
wispy parcel
Yea they are basically hyur who evolved differently
raw robin
that doesn't state anythin about them not being, thats the issue im facing..
remote lintel
The curved horns and beautifully patterned scales that characterize the Au Ra oft give rise to speculation that this Hyur-like race native to the Far Eastern continent of Othard are, in fact, the progeny of dragons. This, however, has long been disputed, with scholars citing several distinct differences in the two races as evidence of decidedly dissimilar roots - the first and foremost being the enhanced hearing and spatial recognition granted by an Au Ra's cranial projections (traits not attributed to draconian horns), and the second being the gross disproportion in body mass between Auri males and females (again, a trait widely unseen in dragons).
raw robin
It only states that 'some' scholars dispute it, and yoshi has stated that this has to do with heavensward msq..
median locust
twilit arch
||considering that au ra, and every other player race, are related to the ancients and dragons are an alien species that came to the planet after the sundering. Au ra are definitely not dragon related||
median locust
good point LOL
remote lintel
oh yeah
raw robin
Mm yeh defo good point!
remote lintel
i forgot dragons just....did that
raw robin
Id just like some hard facts stated by devs.. it's just all so 'vague' yk
wispy parcel
Ayylmao's
daring skiff
question - on what do u spend poetics now?
remote lintel
lvl 80 relic weapon
daring skiff
add if u have them all
remote lintel
relic weapon mats is what i would do
raw robin
Hmmm let's say they aren't is there a way because of the vague answers that one would be able to incorporate being dragon desecnded? and if it is would this be looked down upon?
remote lintel
that wouldnt make sense lore wise
raw robin
I mean what i have been thinking about in short = Dusk n dawn / xaela etc being a dragon parent. one of the first brood.
I'd also stop right before the heavensward msq due to having to fight family etc etc
twilit arch
i mean you could make an argument for a xaela or even raen group that find dragons and feel decide they are descended from dragons
because they see the similarities
remote lintel
you didn't do the HW msq?
candid raptor
You cannot be dragon descendent, au ra aren't dragonborn (i.e. no clear draconic traits, just have horns)
raw robin
Well nowhere is tstated clearly that they are. But neither is somewhere clearly stated that they aren't right?
candid raptor
But also you have the single confirmed human to dragon relationship not producing offspring
daring skiff
@remote lintel old relic mats? selling them on npc vendors?
raw robin
Hmmm thats true but if id stop before hw msq id not know that right?
candid raptor
I mean in your head cannon they can be whatever
twilit arch
dragons do reproduce asexually
remote lintel
@daring skiff no, to make the relics?
raw robin
true kael.. flaw in the story shit :p
noble leaf
So i am a returning player, and my house was demolished - the resident caretaker doesn't say anything about my demolished items - where do i retreive them?
candid raptor
It'd just be not lore friendly
twilit arch
like i said though, while it wouldn't be true
remote lintel
@noble leaf how long were you gone
candid raptor
But if you're rping why would you care
twilit arch
you can get away with saying you're from a group that believes they're descended from dragons
median locust
@noble leaf If it's been more than 35 days, they are gone
zinc orbitBOT
raw robin
Yeh true, guess ill make my aura a delusional dragon profet then :p
noble leaf
oh wow. thanks :(
median locust
35 days since demolition*
noble leaf
its been a year
daring skiff
and what about other options is there anything u can sell for small profit?
raw robin
i care because immersion :p
median locust
then yeah
remote lintel
grade 3 topsoil
candid raptor
You already defy lore by not being the wol
raw robin
i would not be wol as i stop before that point
candid raptor
You're wol on char creation
median locust
Shop in front of the Uldah Aetheryte sells wedding suits, can resell them on the MB to people who don't know any better
remote lintel
theyre talking about poetics fissie
median locust
if you feel like that's ok lol
daring skiff
i was selling demicrystals but they nerfed the sell price 😦
median locust
ah gotcha
remote lintel
grade 3 thanalan topsoil
raw robin
Basicly all i need is a way to fit the dragon story + access everything up to coerthas + have housing + miunts and flying unlocked
oak ingot
i recently came back to game, what is the best way currently to get gear for my alt classes?
other than crafting and upgrading it is that is
median locust
what level
oak ingot
80
raw robin
Depends on lvl
median locust
Neo Ishgardian gear
faint flare
Run eden normal
remote lintel
phantasmagoria and raids
median locust
or eden normal yeah
faint flare
Or neo ishgardian
raw robin
You can't be dragon descendent and be lore friendly
@candid raptor not even pre hw?
worldly mason
Hey, I think I read somewhere there is new quests for relic weapons in patch 5.3, however I cannot find any quest related to it in-game ?
oak ingot
neo ishgardian is the tomestone stuff right ?
faint flare
If you wanna not spend gil
candid raptor
Never
median locust
Crafted
raw robin
Never
@candid raptor why not?
gaunt ermine
So I'm relatively new to the game. i have a mid level toon that i want to take to another "New World" that's a little less congested. is there a list of New Worlds to help me choose?
median locust
@worldly mason That's patch 5.35, it's not out yet
remote lintel
because au ra are never descneded from dragons at any point in the story
candid copper
Maybe this is the wrong kind of help, but I just bought the mac version of this game and when I try to run it, I just get a black screen. It seems to be a known issue per reddit, but I can't find anything more recent than 4 months ago - is there any known fix for this problem?
raw robin
because au ra are never descneded from dragons at any point in the story
@remote lintel pre hw we have no way of knowing that tho? only rumours
candid raptor
Also shb lore stuff
raw robin
im talking pre hw...
worldly mason
aw :( thank for the answer tho
remote lintel
just because your character doesn't know it doesn't mean evolution just changes
candid raptor
I mean you can claim to be anything
raw robin
Well its a rp 😂
candid raptor
But you'd still not be it
remote lintel
you can do whatever you want in an rp but it wouldnt fit with canonical lore
candid raptor
This
raw robin
cerberus there is nothing in the lore when im not partaking in the lore :p
I was just asking advice on how to develop the rp
not a basic 'nope not possible anyway'
mossy tartan
Where do I go to learn the moonfire faire dance?
remote lintel
kael gave you advice
raw robin
Yeh which i said was good advice :p
mossy tartan
Where do I go to learn the moonfire faire dance?
@mossy tartan first time at this event
twilit arch
the unlock quest is in upper limsa, at the aftcastle
the dance is unlocked via the quests
mossy tartan
ok, thank you
candid raptor
I mean... however you want? This is getting to a point where you're basically demanding for aura to be a certain way and we end up going 'k dude, if it works in your rp it's fine'. Still not part of actual lore in any way
Therefore develop it any way you want
raw robin
I'm not demanding anything? I'm asking how to make it fit in the arr lore. without thinking of any other post arr lore.
median locust
Au Ra do not exist in ARR
candid raptor
This
remote lintel
lmao
median locust
following that logic
marble jewel
there is a quest that I think is btoken, its called Salvaging the Scene its a level 13 quest
raw robin
Okay thats a fair pointfissie 😂
twilit arch
whats the issue, oki?
raw robin
there goes my plan 😂
median locust
Well, there's Yugiri in post-ARR I guess lol
simple pine
is it completed but cant turn in? there was some other person with a similair issue
marble jewel
its a turn in quest, but it doesn't bring up a screen to turn it in
raw robin
True but we dont know who yugiri is pre hw 😂 shit
i'll have to rethink this :p thanks yall!
median locust
Good luck!
marble jewel
never experienced this before lol
raw robin
Thanks alot!
cold sorrel
How do we hand in items quickly for levequest now? I can't use shortcut key to tick the box...
lavish spade
hi I'm stuck at "we must rebuild" it won't let me click on the complete button
lavish spade
nvm
twilit arch
move left/turn left and move right/turn right are the keybinds for pan camera @unique oasis
vivid wolf
ddint read the question
unique oasis
@twilit arch thanks got i
candid raptor
@wintry compass go to hud layout and right click on more bars to turn them on
remote lintel
or character config > hotbar
leaden ginkgo
Is it normal for the first part of the game to feel extremely easy?
candid raptor
Easy and boring
lavish spade
how do I turn my camera to check my frontside character?
rose tree
@lavish spade Rotate camera with left mouse button, or bind "reverse camera" 'Flip Camera'
lavish spade
o aight ty
leaden ginkgo
So should I just try to blast through the first part of the game
So wait when does it get better?
simple pine
the difficulty of story quests? never
leaden ginkgo
o
remote lintel
and the new trial
candid raptor
The story quests do get more difficult BUT they never go to actually being hard
leaden ginkgo
Oh yeah I just want a fight where Im not constantly spamming fire and it just works
candid raptor
Well for some people they are hard I suppose, hence why they added baby mode
remote lintel
that's just your low lvl class
leaden ginkgo
I love mages and it is getting better
but man its just using only fire and thunder right?
gritty oracle
Is it possible to lag because of a bug? I have a mid to top tier gaming PC, and on the new trial, I lag every 5-10s.
candid raptor
It get sooooo much better
leaden ginkgo
Until you need to get mp back
wispy parcel
BLM I think is real damn fun but got it takes a while
remote lintel
not thunder
candid raptor
Like, when you get fire iv
leaden ginkgo
oh no even thunder?
remote lintel
you don't spam thunder
candid raptor
You feel completion
remote lintel
ice gives mp
leaden ginkgo
Oh I know not to spam it
remote lintel
ok good
leaden ginkgo
Its a DoT
what is the best cul tool u can get in the game atm? is it skysteel augmented? cause i dont want to spend all that time n gil and then find out its something else XD?
candid raptor
You do thunder upkeep but for the most part you're blasting
wispy parcel
Yea the entire rotation of BLM is using fire for damage which spends all ur MP then using ice which does less damage but restores MP
vivid wolf
and praying you dont die to aoe attacks
leaden ginkgo
Black Mage kind of reminds me of melia play style, is that true?
vivid wolf
thats how to play blm
remote lintel
it's basically just ice > thunder > fire fire fire FIRE FIRE FIRE FIRE > ice
leaden ginkgo
oh wait why ice before thunder?
remote lintel
that's the opener
candid raptor
You use the thunder cast to regen while un ice
remote lintel
at later levels you need blizz 4 beforhand
wispy parcel
Thunder is a nice DoT that you should always keep on the enemy
leaden ginkgo
No I get why thunder at the start
im just confused why not get your fire already started?
is it just less mp reason?
candid raptor
There's different openers for different sps
static yacht
its so you have max mana for fire phase
leaden ginkgo
Ah ok
candid raptor
Check the balance for more detailed info tbh
leaden ginkgo
so then you use transpose and spam fire?
remote lintel
at later levels you need blizz 4 beforhand
static yacht
no you hard cast the fire
faint flare
@white sinew in the High end duty tab
static yacht
cause the mana tick will take you to 100% mana
faint flare
Check there
static yacht
you transpose the last fire --> blizzard
leaden ginkgo
mana tick?
static yacht
you regain mana
leaden ginkgo
Ok wait wait
static yacht
every 3 seconds
candid raptor
Eventually you never transpose
static yacht
based on server ticks
leaden ginkgo
so dont turn ice into fire after thunder?
static yacht
you do
leaden ginkgo
with transpose
wispy parcel
Black Mage starts getting real fun once you get this foul
keen walrus
hello, can someone help me ? I can't find the quest to become whit emage, i'm lvl 30 elementalist
leaden ginkgo
hmm ok
remote lintel
not fire 1
leaden ginkgo
And does blizzard 2 ever come into play?
remote lintel
fire 3
static yacht
but the reason you transpose fire --> ice
but not fire --> ice
is because with one
candid raptor
@keen walrus did you finish the lvl 30 conjurer quest?
wispy parcel
You will never used Blizzard 2 again once you get Freeze
twilit arch
have you done the main scenario quest "Sylph Management" @keen walrus
leaden ginkgo
oh ok
static yacht
you ONLY regen mana while in ice form
keen walrus
yes, i have no more quest from E sumi yan
static yacht
/ no form
wispy parcel
Cause the aoe rotation for BLM is Freeze > Flare >Freeze >Flare
candid raptor
@leaden ginkgo best thing to do is go to the balance discord and read up on black mage
vivid wolf
you need to finish the lvl 28(i think) main quest called sylph management
candid raptor
Also the aoe rotation is minimu freeze flare flare freeze
remote lintel
!faq blmleveling
zinc orbitBOT
remote lintel
these are the rotations
forest crown
I've seen some folks running around with a marker saying they get bonus experience because they're below level 70. Is that because they're alts or something?
median locust
Creating a character on a preferred server gives you +100% bonus exp below level 70
forest crown
Oh. So I should be getting the same bonus?
median locust
If you created your character before the server was made preferred, no
faint flare
If you have a gold star buff on your hotbar, you'll have it
lavish breach
so i still have a gear piece to grab?
faint flare
The gear, coin and cracked cluster
Yes
If you didn't grab your gear, it will say 2/3
lavish breach
ohh okays
faint flare
If you did then its 3/3
leaden ginkgo
when can you start doing stuff like those dungeons?
jaunty ruin
can you change the colour of armour? for some reason the final set of this beginner set is green instead of red? xd
median locust
First dungeon is level 15 in the main story
leaden ginkgo
Thankyou!
median locust
You can dye most armor with dyes you craft/find/buy/etc
You need to unlock it through a quest
jaunty ruin
Cheers ^-^
peak narwhal
New player chiming in before class selection to ask what healing role is most appropriate for a new player that wants to play a high reward rotation even if its a difficult one and generally be highly valued for joining groups
lavish breach
this is random but does anyone have a pic of dragoon and red mage/caster puppets bunker gear?
median locust
All healers are viable but the only healer you can start with is Conjurer
faint flare
Conjuerer is the only one you can start as and is the simplest
median locust
which turns into White Mage
peak narwhal
Im more concerned about the long game, how do Scholar and White Mage compare?
faint flare
All jobs are viable and skilled players are wanted
wispy parcel
AST can become a Scholar but it starts as a DPS
faint flare
Arx
wispy parcel
There is no meta in XIV
median locust
After you reach the first expansion you'll be able to pick up Astrologian which is probably the most difficult one to play of the 3
faint flare
Not ast
peak narwhal
Thats reassuring, how do their playstyles compare?
halcyon glen
Scholar heals by mitigating damage taken with shields
halcyon glen
Whereas White Mages focus on healing over time
median locust
Arcanist becomes Scholar and Summoner
Astrologian starts as Astrologian at level 30
Conjurer becomes White Mage
peak narwhal
So if I mained a resto druid in WoW it sounds like White Mage is the class for me?
wispy parcel
White mage is the easiest to heal with and does the most dps of the healers
faint flare
Yes
peak narwhal
Thanks all ❤️
wispy parcel
Keep in mind healers in xiv are expected to dps somewhat
regal vapor
If i were to buy this game for PC, should I do it from the website or steam or neither?
median locust
website
wispy parcel
Website
faint flare
Website
peak narwhal
You get it cheaper on the website, its half off rn
median locust
or anywhere that isn't steam
wispy parcel
Steam comes with a bunch of complications
median locust
If you buy from Steam you are locked to Steam and can only ever buy expansions though steam
forever
peak narwhal
I just picked up the complete edition on the squeenix store for 30 dollars
wispy parcel
And you cant take advantage of mogstation sales on steam
median locust
you sell your soul to lord gaben
warm atlas
How/where do I socialize in this game? I feel so lonely lol
abstract hinge
question.. i bought the game on steam.. and when i start it up i'm given 2 options... FFXIV ONLINE STARTER EDITION or FFXIV SHADOWBRINGER STANDARD (each with their own product code)... which one do i register?
faint flare
You need both
wispy parcel
Limsa is where most people stand around and chat
median locust
Standard then Shadowbringers in that order
regal vapor
Ohhh gotcha, I'll go for website version if enjoy the free trial, Thank you all for the quick response
faint flare
If you want everything
abstract hinge
so. how do i reguster both?
abstract hinge
i did...
faint flare
Then slao them on Mogstation
abstract hinge
oh
peak narwhal
If you're not really invested in playing it on steam
faint flare
Mogstation handles everything account wise
peak narwhal
YOu can refund it on steam and buy the complete edition on sale for 30 dollars on the square enix store rn
halcyon glen
Socialization is done in a number of ways here! Our guilds are called "Free Companies" and great for meeting new people
wispy parcel
That is a good option
peak narwhal
It boggles my mind that the sales dont affect both
faint flare
Because steam
wintry compass
need to get to coerthas
median locust
Steam has a different license type, and both PC license types cannot coexist on the same account ever
wintry compass
but im going to the airship and theres no option
median locust
there's no airship to coerthas
halcyon glen
no you need to walk to coerthas
wintry compass
ooooooffffff
ocean charm
does one Sub payment cover playing on steam and ps4 if the account is linked? or do i have to somehow do seperate payments
median locust
Yes one sub covers all
faint flare
Sub covers all platforms
ocean charm
thats what i thought just wanted to make sure thanks
wintry compass
so ill have to walk up to mor dhona to coerthas?
half kraken
Does faux hollows give any good rewards
wintry compass
ill figure it out
half kraken
Or can I ignore unreal
peak narwhal
Does it matter much which server I pick? I have friends on several...
faint flare
Mount and minion
warm atlas
Limsa is where most people stand around and chat
@wispy parcel do people just chat using say or?
faint flare
But thats 600 and 400 leves
wispy parcel
They chat in say often
half kraken
Everytime I queue for shiva unreal the tanks are going in completely blind
static yacht
PF it
static yacht
Will the mount + minion be changing the next unreal trial?
peak narwhal
Is there any place I can get glamour gear thats based on character appearances from FFTA on the GBA?
static yacht
or will it be the same
faint flare
Who knoes
static yacht
@peak narwhal SB alliance raid
faint flare
There's no precdent for this
static yacht
but thats more original
FFT I believe
IDK if the designs for FFTA / FFT are the same
median locust
lv70 24-man raids are based on tactics lore
peak narwhal
The stylistic differences between them are pretty big
FFT was more medieval european and FFTA is more the stylized early stages of ivalice FF stuff
peak narwhal
Some of the FF12 stuff might be more similar
median locust
with returning characters from tactics
faint flare
Its ivalice but not ivalice
wispy parcel
Tactics and 12
peak narwhal
I honestly just want to cosplay Shara
wispy parcel
Which is weird since they are thousands of years apart
rapid shoal
If I were to buy starter during the free trial would the playtime reset back to 1 month?
wispy parcel
You are no longer elegable for the free trial once you buy the game
And yea theres no timer
warm atlas
Hm not really a lot of chatting going on in Limsa lol
peak narwhal
RN its better to pick up the complete edition on the store rather than wait until a trial is nearly over anyway
faint flare
The 30days from getting the game is just the first mount sub free
peak narwhal
Because the sale ends on the 19th
rapid shoal
So free trial is until you get bored?
rapid shoal
Weird
faint flare
With restrictions
static yacht
Free trial is unlimited but there are limitations
you cannot form parties, join an FC and a lot of other things
candid raptor
@warm atlas I'd suggest looking for a semi active FC
static yacht
if you BUY ARR
wispy parcel
Trial has no social aspects or even market board
peak narwhal
I guess the galaxy brain move is to buy the game now on sale, ride out the trial until you need to upgrade, then input your key when you're ready
warm atlas
there isnt a fc finder is there?
candid raptor
No there isn't
median locust
Gonna have to check recruiting subreddits/discords
wispy parcel
Often times people go to reddit or the offical forums to find FCs in there DC
median locust
or hang out in limsa and wait for a shout/invite
median locust
can't link a channel you can't see
wispy parcel
wintry compass
i have a chest piece that has materia it has some slots what is that for ?
little fiber
can anyone help?
peak narwhal
Try just closing it and trying again if you havent done that yet
Itll resume where it left off
little fiber
thank you
median locust
@wintry compass Slotting materia into gear gives it some extra stats. You basically don't have to use those before you're level 80.
You change your gear too often for it to be worth worrying about
wintry compass
mmm should i just use what the game recommends me using ?
median locust
Yes unless you know what you're doing
wintry compass
cause with this chest piece it unequips my har
hat
the other gear doesnt give any critical enhancements but this chest piece does
peak narwhal
OhmygodthisgameissomuchprettierthanWoW
median locust
It gets better the higher level you get tbh
especially after you get to the first expansion
peak narwhal
Oh yeah Im still in the years old parts
Are there any good resources for helping me look at my options for glamouring?
I'd love to work on some outfits but I'm new to the game and dont have that experience with all the armor sets and stuff
zinc orbitBOT
median locust
https://xivstyle.com/ shows all outfits in the game up to patch 5.0. It's not 100% updated but it should be good enough to preview sets
https://ffxiv.eorzeacollection.com/ if you want to see what people are making
https://mirapri.com/ same as above but in JP
peak narwhal
Thanks ❤️
median locust
Easy way to get some nice glamour is to unlock the Gold Saucer and start earning MGP
you can buy decent outfits with it
plus you only need to be level 15.. or maybe it was 17
peak narwhal
Ooh good point, maybe I should just focus on levelling up a bit first to expand my options?
median locust
Yeah the actual good glamour options are going to be level 50+
The sets 49 and down are usually nooooot very good looking
twilit arch
https://www.ffxivcollection.com/ is in jp but easy enough to get around and links to the lodestone
peak narwhal
Does white mage have enough soloability to not make the game a painful slog when questing the main story? Should I do the main story as something else first and grind WM in dungeons where healing is more valuable?
median locust
The story is designed to be doable with every job (except Blue Mage)
faint flare
^
peak narwhal
This game has blue mages???
median locust
It might be a tad slower but not enough to matter
faint flare
You may take 1 extra gcd to kill things
median locust
Yes but it's a limited class
peak narwhal
lmao what does that even mean?
median locust
It only goes up to level 60 and it's not a real class
peak narwhal
oh
median locust
it can't queue for dungeons
peak narwhal
oh weiiiird
faint flare
They can't do quests exceot job quesrs, cant que for dungeons normally
They need premade parties
peak narwhal
Whats the deal with that, are they still under development and balancing or something?
Or just not something they wanted to prioritize as a "real" class?
faint flare
They're STUPIDLY brokeb
And can never be truly balanced
Because of the insane shit they can do
Just you know
Casually kill raid bosses at 30%
No big deal
Who needs LB
twilit arch
its pretty much never going to be a real job
its very much intended to be fun side content
median locust
They also learn their spells by watching mobs do them rather than levelling up. They didn't want people to exclude Blue mages from raids just because they're missing X and Y spells
faint flare
They clear dungeons in like 5mins as well
Just doom/wipe the trash then blow up bosses
median locust
They're stupidly broken so they'll always be a few level caps behind real combat jobs
peak narwhal
Does this game support any command line interface use of abilities like wow does?
gritty oracle
I've a cutscene question. So I unlocked the Heroes' Gauntlet, and queued up. However, i was thrown into a party in progress, thus the opening cutscene was skipped for me. Next time I do the dungeon, from the beginning, will I watch that or will it be skipped, since I have completed the dungeon already?
peak narwhal
Where in a bind if a button isnt bound I can mash out a /cast Holy
gritty oracle
you mean macros Rose?
median locust
But there's super rare achievements for clearing old raids as ONLY blue mages
leaden ginkgo
Someone told me there is a way to manually disable the sprout icon with a command, is this the case?
faint flare
Yes but Macroing skills are bad
peak narwhal
I guess yeah kinda like macros
median locust
/nastatus off
vocal shell
./nastatus
faint flare
!faq macrogcd
zinc orbitBOT
twilit arch
unless you have the option enabled in the config settings, the intro won't be skipped @gritty oracle
faint flare
See that
peak narwhal
Is it just that latency buffers the GCD poorly?
median locust
Macros have an inherent delay to them and therefore are really bad to use in combat
faint flare
Not latency
leaden ginkgo
Ty
faint flare
Just how macros function
median locust
It's done on purpose so people actually play their job instead of macroing their entire rotation
faint flare
Macros dont skill que
Meaning skills aren't used first frame
Like normal
Thus come.out slower
gritty oracle
@peak narwhal Short answer: yes, but you shouldn't use them.
Long answer: Something something skill queuing read the kupobot guide Vinyl linked, but for rarely-used OGCDS, such as resurrects, they are fine to use in my opinion. It's a kind of controversial topic.
peak narwhal
Ok but like, if Im wanting to use some obscure ability that isnt in my bars and I just want to quickly cast and I can type at like dumb speeds
gritty oracle
oh yeah
faint flare
You pretty much use everything