Nergigante would be one spiky mount lmao
#questions-and-help
white gorge
verbal forge
yup
faint flare
They murmured one day they might wanna do another but thats probably long into the future
rugged nimbus
How hard is it to get Rathalos
white gorge
Bruh it would hurt lmao
halcyon ledge
Is there a difference between pruchansing collect or complete edition I forgot the name and Shadowbringers?
verbal forge
another mh world collab?
verbal forge
i think complete edition is already shadow bringers + other expacts
white gorge
Can free trial ppl participate in game events and the mh world collab?
verbal forge
damn im already getting antsy to try out FF14
faint flare
Events yes, as most events are low level
halcyon ledge
Collectors just has cosmetic stuff in it
@faint flare Oh, nice okay thanks
faint flare
However MHW event is lv70
verbal forge
btw does this game have occassional content droughts?
white gorge
Oh wow i see i see~!
low sun
the normal complete edition for 19.99 gives you access to everything and 30d gametime
verbal forge
like how bad is it?
leaden ginkgo
I tried looking for a diff game time card in the SE store but i dont see it. Do i have to sub first before i can see that mode of subscription?
@white gorge No, you just have to access your mogstation account, and you'll see the different bundles. 60day, 90day, and 180day. This is for the Standard sub that gives you access to 8 characters on different data centers. You can also opt for a cheaper sub (like 12usd) for Entry sub, that allows only 1 character (which is all you'll ever need)
faint flare
Usually we get patches every 3 months
white gorge
Wow bro i need that thanks
faint flare
Its usually not too bad depending what content you're actually after
verbal forge
i see.
white gorge
Im gonna be entry sub forever lol
verbal forge
same
white gorge
Third world country feels
verbal forge
entry sub is way to go since you can already multi class in one character
faint flare
If you're after hardcore raid content then you get hardcore raid content every 6months
verbal forge
im after everything
faint flare
Then you'll be fine with the content that comes gradually
verbal forge
i feel like this game is gonna be like raiding in the weekends and grinding in the weekdays
and i also feel like i don't really need to play other games with ff14
faint flare
The game is very casual
little swift
@white gorge No, you just have to access your mogstation account, and you'll see the different bundles. 60day, 90day, and 180day. This is for the Standard sub that gives you access to 8 characters on different data centers. You can also opt for a cheaper sub (like 12usd) for Entry sub, that allows only 1 character (which is all you'll ever need)
@leaden ginkgo small correction on this
standard allows for 8 characters PER WORLD up to 40 total
entry allows for 1 character PER WORLD up to 8 total
verbal forge
not bad not bad
faint flare
And pugs for raids are....
Mostly reliable
verbal forge
was planning on world of warcraft but it seems like its more expensive to join world of warcraft than ff14
faint flare
Ymmv
leaden ginkgo
i feel like this game is gonna be like raiding in the weekends and grinding in the weekdays
@verbal forge heh, it's more than that really, there's a lot of stuff to do, you won't realy get burned out like in other mmos
halcyon ledge
@leaden ginkgo If I buy an expansion and then want to go for entry sub I just have to go to that mogstation?
verbal forge
yeah i usually get like burned out for like a month or so in an mmo
faint flare
I've been playing for like 6 years
white gorge
NICE THAT IS VERY NICE I LOVE FF14 NOW
faint flare
Still log in pretty much most days
verbal forge
i only lasted for like 6 months in gw2
leaden ginkgo
@leaden ginkgo If I buy an expansion and then want to go for entry sub I just have to go to that mogstation?
@halcyon ledge Yes
verbal forge
i even bought the xpac
verbal forge
same
halcyon ledge
I'm already 30 on three jobs but I get quite confused about the sub
leaden ginkgo
SE is giving free weed now it seems anyways
faint flare
The trial update probably added like 200% more content
faint flare
Nah
They do returner campaigns for people who haven't subbed for awhile
And let them play for abit
Those are few and far between
verbal forge
but its not 1 month right?
bright saddle
I just started a week ago and haven't really been pushing hard, or really felt the need to. If you take your time you can just enjoy the game and avoid the burn out without feeling rushed or left behind like WoW @verbal forge
faint flare
Nah usually like a few days/a week
verbal forge
not bad
leaden ginkgo
I'm already 30 on three jobs but I get quite confused about the sub
@halcyon ledge you're gonna need the sub when you want to play another expansion, that's it
faint flare
And the devs are completely fine with you taking a break from the game and encourage it
verbal forge
besides blizzard is going downhill with their bad decisions
white gorge
Are the returner campaigns rich in rewards?
verbal forge
anyway thanks alot for helping me decide
faint flare
Nah. Just lets you play again
white gorge
Ohhh
faint flare
For the period
verbal forge
I'll use FF14 as a means of losing weight and cutting down on fast food
white gorge
U mean for free?
faint flare
If you haven't been subbed for abit
Yeah, if you haven't been subbed for awhile they let you back on for a few days
halcyon ledge
@halcyon ledge you're gonna need the sub when you want to play another expansion, that's it
@leaden ginkgo Ohhh, okay so once I finish heavensward then I should buy shadowbringers right?
white gorge
Man this game. Knowing about the subscriptions avaialble already encourages me to be a regular subber lol
faint flare
Full access back to your account
white gorge
Entry sub basically means my school money
faint flare
Like i said earlier kaspel
white gorge
Saved
faint flare
The devs care
verbal forge
btw, if i haven't activated shadowbringers yet it means i haven't activated my sub right?
faint flare
Nope
halcyon ledge
I'm already in to sub and pay constantly
white gorge
I see i see!
halcyon ledge
I just need some time because I have to pay my school first
faint flare
It doesn't start until you put in the code to register the game
verbal forge
$12.99 for a shit ton of content per month is not too bad
faint flare
And Registering the game gives you 30days free ontop
faint flare
So you can take your lv60 character
verbal forge
so does that means i get 2 months?
bright saddle
you also get a bit of extra sub time for hitting some milestones, just found out the other day looking through some old emails lol, got 15 extra days for hitting 30 on my new char
verbal forge
i see
verbal forge
i see
leaden ginkgo
The free trial will last you enough, trust me, that you might even consider subbing next year
verbal forge
what about complete edition?
faint flare
So every new player gets a free month sub when they start
halcyon ledge
Ohh
little swift
the free trial is much longer now
verbal forge
so if i activated complete edition and register the base game
do i get 2 months of subfee?
faint flare
No cause the complete edition registers the base game
However
If you get the base gamr for console as well
You do get another 30days
faint flare
Same for mac
verbal forge
so complete edition completely overrides the base game activation
faint flare
Because the complete edition contains the base game
Its everything in 1 neat package
verbal forge
i see
little swift
what you could do
is if you plan to play multiple platforms
register multiple copies of base game (pc/mac/ps4)
and get more time that way
but at that point
just sub
rugged nimbus
Thats what I did. PS4 and PC
faint flare
^
verbal forge
its more expensive that way
faint flare
But at least if you do plan to play on multiple platforms it lessens the impact
little swift
shadowbringers does include stormblood though @leaden ginkgo
rugged nimbus
Its more expensive because youre getting access to another platform to play on
leaden ginkgo
I stand corrected
little swift
shb doesn't include hw/base arr now
gaunt depot
!main
little swift
@gaunt depot #kupo-bot-spam
faint flare
Is the only channel that works
leaden ginkgo
@leaden ginkgo Ohhh, okay so once I finish heavensward then I should buy shadowbringers right?
@halcyon ledge yes
little swift
also the command is !maint
gaunt depot
ugh they need to hurry up damn it 😦
leaden ginkgo
Wait, so last year I bought ShB and the Base game
unreal sierra
leaden ginkgo
Now people just need to buy ShB?
lone hawk
Go to their office and tell them they are slow
gaunt depot
7nhours
faint flare
Do "!maint" in kupo bot spam
obsidian patio
No
lone hawk
!maint
obsidian patio
You still need the base game
low sun
still need base game + shb
faint flare
You always need the base game
leaden ginkgo
Alright
faint flare
Otherwise expansion codes do nothing
low sun
its super cheap right now anyway
leaden ginkgo
Yeah, or hope for Twitch prime codes like last year
low sun
until you die or ff14 is shut down
halcyon ledge
does...that mean the code doesn't expire...?
leaden ginkgo
It's like all the unopened physical games I have in my closet
low sun
ye codes dont expire
verbal forge
should i select Japan for the region?
halcyon ledge
Oh
low sun
that would be most weird 
halcyon ledge
I thought codes expired somehow
leaden ginkgo
No, only pre-order codes do
halcyon ledge
Ohhh, okay, thanks!
verbal forge
for registration if i select Japan does it mean i get routed to Japan data center servers?
verbal forge
but i heard that there are tons of OCE/SEA players there
ivory pecan
anyone on PS4 getting the patch download yet?
verbal forge
i see it would be like the same story as PSO2, japanese speakers and alot of english players
rugged nimbus
Question about the digital upgrade to Collector's editions, do they include that expansions preorder bonuses as well?
leaden ginkgo
i see it would be like the same story as PSO2, japanese speakers and alot of english players
@verbal forge exactly
And lag too
faint flare
There's unofficial english communities on some of the JP servers
verbal forge
wym by lag?
faint flare
And the game has a auto translate feature that has basic sentences
leaden ginkgo
wym by lag?
@verbal forge if you live far that is
verbal forge
i live in the philippines and is pretty near japan
faint flare
So you can mostly communixate
fiery gust
Is 5.3 out now?
verbal forge
so its japan
leaden ginkgo
And the game has a auto translate feature that has basic sentences
@faint flare wow I didn't know that
ivory pecan
patch is downloadable in PC only for now it seems
sentences
leaden ginkgo
I thought those were macros
faint flare
You can access it by pressing tab while you type
leaden ginkgo
Otsukaresamadeshita
faint flare
If you start typing a word then tab. The auto translate dictionary will try to find words that auto complete.it
low sun
hah full download speed, guess the panic about patch servers completely dying was unfounded
faint flare
But it mainly has terms needed for the game
verbal forge
kinda weird when i select AUS it routes me to EU region
faint flare
Like skill names and basic instructions and coordination tools
low sun
@verbal forge you select the data center in the ingame menu
verbal forge
so if like lets say i registered an AUS account does that mean i can select JP data center?
leaden ginkgo
Yes
low sun
you can select and switch how you like
rugged nimbus
Is there any way to get the Aetheryte Earrings now?
rugged nimbus
Oof
faint flare
Your account region just locks what codes your account can take
IE you cant use EU keys on a NA account
vestal charm
All patched and ready to go. Only what, 7 more hours to go? Nap time...
leaden ginkgo
They'll probably give new earrings with the next expansion
low sun
ff14 biggest content patch ever *smoll 3gb", call of duty 2020 hotfix and new map 150gb
faint flare
They said the might not do them since it basically invalidates all equipment under it but we'll see if they chanve their.mind
Though that may refer the the aetheryte earrings explicitly that grew as you levelled
wispy parcel
its cause western game devs dont know how to compress files
leaden ginkgo
They said the might not do them since it basically invalidates all equipment under it but we'll see if they chanve their.mind
@faint flare I didn't know they regretted the earrings, they gave them with Stormblood too
low sun
just happy the patching was so quick and problemless
faint flare
Were probably going abit too far
The fact the stats grew as you levelled kinda made other earrings redundant
wispy parcel
patch isnt live for PS4 users yet but I have work in the morning anyhow so eh
faint flare
The ala mhigan earrings were ok, not the best stats but workable
White mage has best personal dps but no raid buffs
tender merlin
What's a forgiving healer class that can do some decent damage? and whats a good tank class for newbies?
open coral
Paladin for tank
faint flare
Tanks, paladin or Maradurer, both are very basic at the start
open coral
MRD takes a little more getting used to because their only AoE until 40 is a frontal cone rather than a 360 degree.
wispy parcel
the only 2 tanks you can pick in the beginning are WAR and PLD anyway
both are fairly simple
tender merlin
if i do the quests as one class, how do i level another class? are there a lot of repeat-able quests in game?
or do i just queue in dungeons
faint flare
!faq altlvlguide
zinc orbitBOT
faint flare
Refer to this
Short form: hunting logs and fates until you get to dungeons, or do palace of the dead
wispy parcel
for your own sanity dont run Palace of the Dead, I did for several alt jobs and went insane
halcyon ledge
What exactly is PotD?
red mango
deep dungeon
warped nest
It is a Rogue like dungeon
faint flare
Its a roguelike dungeon that has no party comp put on you and its own levelling and gearing system
Your level and gear are different inside than outside
warped nest
The primary purpose is to do it for challenge and reach the final floor
faint flare
So you can go in naked at lv1 and be as strong as others
wispy parcel
randomly generated dungeon that is great for leveling but absolute hell
warped nest
But the more commonly used secondary purpose is to use it to level up DPS jobs
red mango
gives alot of xp per floor, groups made up depending on who qs, lots of traps, if you barely starting alot of the higher level players/farmable will ignore most silver chests
faint flare
You get Xp for.your job outside every 10 floors
opal bough
Is MCH still a low ping job?
obsidian patio
Yes
halcyon ledge
Oh, sounds fun but annoying
red mango
per 10* floors xp, sorry miss info
opal bough
can I get away with single weavin?
faint flare
Its tedious and mind numbing
faint flare
The reason mch is a ping job.is cause of Hypercharge and heat blast.
Its hard to weave during that with high ping
So higher ping mch usually.habe to dump gauss/richo charges prior to Hypercharge
cloud badger
game still offline? Im pretty new and unsure if they finish maintenance early
faint flare
Its rare they'll bring it up early on long maintenances
cloud badger
ok good to know :)
faint flare
They usually very on point with times
lusty halo
can ps4 players preload the patch?
twilit arch
yes
lusty halo
it's not showing up for me yet so i just wanted to make sure
oh there it is!!
thanks guys
red mango
cant wait to see if they added another nier glam on the new alliance raid
tender merlin
thank you for the leveling guide, another question i have is at what level do i unlock crafts and what are some craft jobs that are good for beginners? ( like in WoW herbalist, etc)
faint flare
You can unlock them the moment you can swap jobs at lv10 after your job quest
warped nest
Crafting jobs supplement combat jobs in providing them equipment and endgame consumable
faint flare
Crafters and gatherers are mostly "all or nothing" as they're pretty connected and play off each other for mats
Its a completey different game
warped nest
You don't exactly need a crafter to say, make you healing potion or stamina potion (whatev a Herbalist does in wow) for you to use in combat
wispy parcel
All crafters are good but in this game if you wannabe a crafter its best to level all of them
saves a lot of gil later down the line
zinc orbitBOT
spare plinth
is the cheapest subscription for ffxiv $13 a month entry 1 chara
wispy parcel
yep
drifting ruin
1 char per server
But like, you can do everything in the game on one character so, it's pretty worth
warped nest
8 characters maximum, but no overlap
halcyon ledge
I would pay for more charas only so I can be a lala in all worlds
warped nest
The more expensive option let you have 40 characters, and up to 8 per world
You can in theory have 8 characters per 5 world
warped nest
Dunno
halcyon ledge
Me already
obsidian patio
Definitely more than that if I had to guess
faint flare
Play on another data centre
Raid with others/on another job without messing loot locks
drifting ruin
It's hard to suggest a class, they're all fun in their own ways
drifting ruin
I'd just pick something similar to what you typically enjoy the most in other games
halcyon zinc
Samurai
south harbor
Ok sounds good my idea was lancer so...
dim smelt
@south harbor range physical melee magic range
@south harbor dragoon is amazing
Dragoon is lancer
thick elm
i mistyped pass too many times on log-in, anyone know how long they make you wait? it just says "you will not be able to log in for several minutes"
south harbor
Guess I'm going with dragoon
I've been into tons of ff games this is my first MMORPG
warped nest
Yoshi-P, the game's producer, personally recommend Gladiator, Lancer, and Conjurer. Which are tank, Dps, and healer.
drifting ruin
Lancer is cool!
dim smelt
@south harbor it's really fun class with tons to do enjoy the class it also has a very good story and you can use it from the start unlike samurai whom you can use after you finish the whole of a real reborn
Lvl 50
south harbor
What server you guys on ?
south harbor
For future reference what the best one? To choose?
south harbor
North America
drifting ruin
if you don't have friends to play with, pick a "preferred server" near you
warped nest
Then pick from Aether Primal or Crystal
south harbor
Yep no friends lol
dim smelt
@south harbor ahh servers wre mostly packed and there is cross world play
warped nest
They are the three NA data center, all physically in... California iirc
drifting ruin
Can't see the current list of preferred worlds because of maintenance 
dim smelt
Where do you live
south harbor
Right now on Michigan
warped nest
I have answered that
dim smelt
Go any na server
warped nest
Doesn't matter which states, all NA server are on California
dim smelt
Yup
Na Europe japan has it easy rest of the world not so much most of us play at over 50-60 ping lol
south harbor
crystal an ok one to join?
wary portal
I just received the game in the mail for PS4. I put the disc in the PS4 before I saw that I need to input the code first. Did I just screw something up?
warped nest
Data Center are collection of World, and matching making are done within a data center. So you don't really need to worry about "i don't want to join low population world cuz no players"
south harbor
will jump on asap when matenence ends lol
dim smelt
No go to the official mog station site and register game @wary portal
Not now though after maintenance
Make an account there to play
south harbor
good thing i'll be awake
dim smelt
It doesn't use PS4 account
wary portal
The game is currently downloading all the updates
dim smelt
Cool
wispy parcel
All account management is through mogstation just so you know
south harbor
yep same here update
dim smelt
It's actually downloading whole game
The disc just has the code
It should be written inside the box
wary portal
I understand that. This is also my first time with a PS4 and I'm making sure doing the promo second won't prevent me from being able to open the game
south harbor
my update almost done yay now just 2 wait
wary portal
I already entered the code
wary portal
Ok, good
dim smelt
You made an square account ?
wary portal
Will have to wait until tomorrow now
dim smelt
Yeah pretty big patch
south harbor
anyone here able to help teach me basics fast learner love jrpgs
dim smelt
@south harbor feel free to ask
wary portal
Ok, thanks!
half glacier
so uh was the game down all day?
paper torrent
question about that
dim smelt
For patch
whole wasp
major patches are usually whole-days
frank ridge
Now you've heard one
half glacier
will move my hype to tomorrow
dim smelt
It's almost always 24 hour for big patch
south harbor
what my internet must be fast lol it has 5 minutes left
paper torrent
does the patch download release when the servers come back up or do I need to download it at 6 am edt
faint flare
The download.is up now
frank ridge
You can download it now
paper torrent
nice
oak ice
You can get it now
dim smelt
@paper torrent its already up
south harbor
thunderstorm over here crazy thank goodness we have generater
marble mortar
Question: If I buy Shadowbringers from the square online store (non steam), do I get a months subscription with that purchase or is it game only and then I need to buy subscription on top of that ?
frank ridge
Game only
dim smelt
@marble mortar 1 month sub as well I think
low sun
if you only buy the addon no, no gametime
south harbor
84 seconds patch on my end will be done
wispy parcel
1 month free after that cough up the doe montly
low sun
complete edition has 30d gametime
dim smelt
Yup
dusty shell
hey y'all been playing for a couple days. Haven't played an MMORPG in a few years and forgot how addicting they can be. My question is: if you feel them, how do you manage compulsions to spend too much time in-game, i.e., what are your strategies for keeping your relationship with the game a healthy one. It's so much fun so far and I want to buy the full game, but have real concerns about getting too sucked in. Thx for your input
frank ridge
Unless you buy "Starter" or "Complete" (Which includes Starter), you don't get 30 days free
south harbor
i got complete edition cause of sale
marble mortar
ahk Na I own all expansions up to shadowbringers, so would only be buying that, was hoping to sneak in a free month with the purchase as its 50% off
dim smelt
@dusty shell Im a doctor I've got a job is what keeps me from being over addicted
south harbor
cool
dim smelt
@marble mortar do that mate
marble mortar
oh but the complete edition is only 3 bucks more, maybe that will give me shadowbringers and a months sub ?
frank ridge
No
dim smelt
Yeah
dusty shell
@dim smelt neat did you play video games in med school?
dim smelt
Doesn't it ?
low sun
if you already own the base game you cant apply the starter edition again
frank ridge
You already own ARR so you don't get the free sub
dim smelt
@dusty shell a lot lol
marble mortar
ahh dammit ><
dusty shell
@dim smelt do you think it affected your studies negatively? Starting grad school next month
low sun
The only time you can get gametime outside from subbing as someone who already owns the base game is when they do bringback-campaigns
dim smelt
@dusty shell just manage your time . I studied 4-5 hours a day and play video games and basketball and party the rest of the time . But I made sure I studied 5 hours everyday from Monday to Saturday . I graduated with honors and a gold medal in surgery using this . It's always good to have balance in lufe
frank ridge
I mean, if you can't manage on your own, no game is ever gonna be good enough.
Endgame resources are timegated somewhat but you can also do crafting and gathering and these are not very timegated
low sun
Or you can be like me, buy the complete edition 5 times in 5 years, start over every time until you finally decide to stick with the game 
wispy parcel
honestly it also depends on your personality
there are people who have addictive personalities and those who dont
dim smelt
I got complete edition on PS4 sold that then got on pc 2 years back and been this way since
marble mortar
@low sun That would require 5 email addresses though right ?
dim smelt
@marble mortar yup
low sun
yea
i just made a new gmail adress every time i bought it again, then deleted it when i didnt stick with it lol
marble mortar
I gotta have all my game accounts under my main email address or it would drive me crazy 😛
low sun
understandable, but not an option then
lone crater
did we remove our datamind channel? lol
frank ridge
Yes
lone crater
Why?
dim smelt
@lone crater yeah good thing too it was getting out of hand
lone crater
zz
wispy parcel
Datamine is #archived-lore-spoilers now
lone crater
oooh ok
twilit arch
because there was an issue that happened were our resident dataminer got banned
so we are no longer officially hosting a channel for it
dim smelt
They got perma banned ?
twilit arch
no
dusty shell
@dim smelt Congrats, that's awesome you are able to balance things successfully. Once game gets back online I will try to build good habits. @wispy parcel Yes...very true. Wonder how much of that is malleable if you make a big effort.
low sun
i'm still anxious to even use ACT, but i dont know how else to track if my rotations get better. just gonna hope for the "grey" area to be grey forever
dim smelt
What do you wtf pretty sure data mining is illegal lol and that too publically is big no from sea
drifting ruin
datamining isn't illegal
lone crater
just dont talk about it in chat
dim smelt
@dusty shell yeah cheers mate have fun it's an awesome game
low sun
yea i know how it works, but the thought at the back of the mind doesnt go away
low sun
dim smelt
Pretty sure a lot of mmo ban you for data mining . Single player games don't really care though
lone crater
you should continue to use it though becaue imo it helps a lot with your personal ability
faint flare
The thing with ACT is that its fine, as long as you're not an ass and harass people or cheat with it
dim smelt
I heard there is a prison in ffxiv
faint flare
Personal use is fine
dim smelt
Ever been there ?
umbral yacht
@twilit arch ok 😉 seems like I have been away for that long, thought it was a bit odd it was not in the same place as usual (d-mining)
drifting ruin
datamining has nothing to do with your account or anything tho, how would they know to ban you if you're some anonymous dude on reddit posting what you've datamined?
besides, that's irrelevant to it being illegal or not
dim smelt
I mean publically
twilit arch
either way this really isnt the place to discuss it
umbral yacht
ok
twilit arch
simple fact of the matter is we no longer have a channel specifically for it
halcyon ledge
I just want to point out that if you have the free trial
you should let your game downloading another patch
Just pop out for me the ToS for heavensward
Sorry for the very broken english I'm tired and I just noticed that
ashen sage
I can't remember if I found a guide that had this layout or if I bastardized someone's layout. Anyone recall something similar? I'd like to find it again and hopefully correct it.
because I know the LT ABXY were my doing
signal garnet
is anyone else getting an error when they start it up?
*the launcher I mean
i cant even get to it
median scaffold
could someone explain to me the new Eureka? I’m trying to research Eureka and apparently there’s a new Eureka for Shadowbringers?
Whats the name of it?
low sun
Launcher and Download work fine for me if you mean that
halcyon ledge
Launcher and Download are working just fine for me
median scaffold
Bozja? is that what I google?
faint flare
Is the new eureka
median scaffold
what’s it for
faint flare
For relics
median scaffold
Resistance Weapon?
faint flare
You can look at the info
median scaffold
gotcha
faint flare
median scaffold
thanks
faint flare
Screenshots and rough translation there
median scaffold
and that’s not out yet?
faint flare
Alternatively you can looo at the live lettwr digest on the official forums
Bojza is 5.35
signal garnet
im getting this
median scaffold
Gotcha
faint flare
So in a month and abit
median scaffold
Okok
faint flare
Assuming no issues
median scaffold
But right now people can get their weapons
from questline
just cant power it up
faint flare
Upgrade them to 495
median scaffold
Aha
faint flare
Yes
median scaffold
Thanks, i’ve been so confused
median scaffold
couldnt google much haha since its apparantly not out yet
i havent finished shadowbringers yet so
catching up
faint flare
Nope. Always best to look at #translations-and-liveletters for info for coming stuff
And live letters in general
Its how we know these things
zinc orbitBOT
halcyon ledge
im getting this
@signal garnet Just keep trying until it goes through
halcyon ledge
No, just everyone trying to download at the same time
signal garnet
this is my first time being caught up in an mmo so this is kinda new to me lol
halcyon ledge
Welcome to this life then haha
dim smelt
It's a good life
smoky venture
is this anime or sumin
drifting atlas
I jist found out about free to play getting bump to 60
Since i converted my acc to full version, can i somehiw go back to free trial so that i can playy heavensward in which i am rn and not have to pay mounthly ?
raven sage
No
leaden ginkgo
no
raven sage
Once you register the game that's the end of the free trial forever
drifting atlas
Unless i create another acc of steam ?
raven sage
Well it could be any type, but yes you would have to make a new account
drifting atlas
Damn, pretty sad but meh, i liked the game even when i pay just sad i cant cancle the payment if i decide not to play gor the other half of the mounth
arctic holly
When are the servers going up? I forgot
arctic holly
Ight
warped nest
Free trial is meant to attract in new players
It is not meant to benefit existing players
leaden ginkgo
iiiis this a preload or does this mean servers are up
mental stone
Preload, look at the icon in the upper right. Red = not up.
leaden ginkgo
OH i didnt notice that
lucid solar
this turns green when its up
stark bronze
turn it back on plz
patent trellis
Why my friend is downloading at 3.6 mb/s where i'm only at 2.6 ( I'm 100/5 and he is only 30/15... )
random jungle
not using the old launcher 
mortal ibex
I can leave the launcher up while I sleep right? to download the patch?
random jungle
ye
mortal ibex
awesome thanks!
patent trellis
not using the old launcher :feelsweirdman:
@random jungle ??
jaunty condor
Not sure where to post this but im coming into ff14 as a new player from wow and was wondering what classes can be played at high end with 200-300 ping as im from australia. I hear ninjas are a no go - is there any other classes like this?
viscid scroll
is your ping 200-300 even on JP data centres?
wise acorn
You can use other launchers?
viscid scroll
feels like it should be slightly lower on JP datacentres
jaunty condor
yeah playing on tonberry and TCP connection shows 200-300
I assume with VPN i could get it down a bit but yeah
junior tundra
How big is the patch
dapper shadow
3gb
viscid scroll
think most ping unfriendly classes i see are usually stuff like nin, smn, maybe MCH?
others can add on if they know more 🙂
violet star
mch definitely isnt ping friendly
dapper shadow
Brd isnt ping friendly
But i have aus friends who dont have ping problems to elemental dc with vpns tho
jaunty condor
damn so in terms of dps class range or melee which would you recc with high ms
viscid scroll
holy... why is my update 7 GB
jaunty condor
or oce ms i guess
viscid scroll
BLM, DRG?
random jungle
Not sure where to post this but im coming into ff14 as a new player from wow and was wondering what classes can be played at high end with 200-300 ping as im from australia. I hear ninjas are a no go - is there any other classes like this?
@jaunty condor if you're oce, I'd reccomend getting a vpn like noping if you can afford too, I get 130ms-ish on NA from NZ
viscid scroll
mudfish is v cheap and good for me too
random jungle
yea mudfish works for a cheaper alternative too
random jungle
nah I used to use mudfish and it was a good too
viscid scroll
wow 130 ping to NA servers is pretty amazing
jaunty condor
NZ net > AUS net rofl
random jungle
it was around 150 until they did that server change thing back in 5.1 and it's been pretty sick since then lol
true though, NZ net is way better lmfao
viscid scroll
think 5 hours
random jungle
4-5-ish
viscid scroll
slightly under 5 yeah
normal marsh
zinc orbitBOT
patent citrus
@jaunty condor have you tried na server? Seems weird that you got 300ish to Tonberry
viscid scroll
Qn: Are there like almost no english FCs on Garuda?
patent citrus
I got 170 to Tonberry
random jungle
there's alot of oce players on NA though, if you're worried about being alone dont be lol
gaunt depot
preload
jaunty condor
hmmm alot of my friends who started are on tonberry which is why i picked it
white ether
viscid scroll
You don't need to but you might as well 😛
if not you would have to wait once servers come back up
random jungle
A vpn will do wonders for your dps if you're oce regardless of what datacentre you pick
prisma sapphire
PS4 update is up like 2 hours ago
jaunty condor
yeah thats true but say i do have 150 ms thats still pretty high aye?
patent citrus
Not really 
jaunty condor
would that resolve most issues with classes that have high input during GCDs?
patent citrus
It's average for oce player
gaunt depot
@prisma sapphire really?
hazy shadow
If a server is no longer preferred, will the 90D bottleneck be removed if you want to change servers?
fresh lodge
No
prisma sapphire
Select check for update
fresh lodge
There is no way to circumvent the 90 day lockout
random jungle
150 is playable
viscid scroll
Should i transfer from Garuda to other servers in JP datacenter? Not sure how devoid Garuda is of english FCs and players
fresh lodge
The only real JP servers with english speaking people is Tonberry and Kujata
patent citrus
Hmm i got no problem with 170 so far although I play it like turn based RPG lol
viscid scroll
Sad haha guess i will transfer to Kujata once i get my char to higher level content
gaunt depot
but you cant play atm right Val?
patent citrus
Although if you are used to button smashing like wow it might need adjustment to your playstyle
prisma sapphire
Wanted to ask about something but I feel that I will get banned so better to just wait ☺️
warped nest
@prisma sapphire no question is off limit
hazy shadow
Ah, so if you joined a preferred and the status is removed you're locked out for the remainder?
warped nest
If it involve something serious, we will just tell you that it is a serious offense
prisma sapphire
You can’t play ofc
patent trellis
Why my download speed is stuck at 1.88 Mb/s ?
warped nest
If you make a new character a preferred world, the new character will get the exp boost until the following two conditions are met:
- world is no longer Preferred
- character is older than 90 days
Only then the boost will be lost
gaunt depot
Ill have to do the update in a bit then
prisma sapphire
It is not an offensive question, just one that might be against the game’s rules and here
twilit arch
@hazy shadow yes, even if a server stop being preferred you're locked out of world transfer for 90 days
pale rivet
connected to tonberry
warped nest
I am in Malaysia too, I play in NA server
warped nest
Sometimes with mobile Hotspot, I can still do EX
celest shell
Quick stupid question but will 5.3 officially wrap up shadowbringers?
pale rivet
ok sounds good
prisma sapphire
@celest shell yes
celest shell
Thank you
twilit arch
it will wrap up the story yes. 5.4/5.5 will most likely lead up into the expansion
warped nest
For the main story yes
viscid scroll
it will wrap up the story yes. 5.4/5.5 will most likely lead up into the expansion
@twilit arch We are still about a year away from next expansion?
just so i can get an idea of how much time i have to finish till the latest content
warped nest
The Nier alliance raid and Eden raid side story will be in 5.5 and 5. 4
twilit arch
just like how 3.3 wrapped up hw and 3.4/3.5 were lead ups into sb, 4.3 wrapped up sb and 4.4/4.5 lead into shb
roughlyish, yeah
warped nest
For reference, if covid isn't a thing, we would have gotten a reveal for 6.0 in fanfest held in Q4 2020
gaunt depot
I just started with arr 😦 I have a loooong way to go before Shadowbringers
warped nest
Shadowbringers was first revealed in Q4 2018, and it was released on Q3 2019
Give or take
Take your time and savor the story/game
viscid scroll
Yeah you have more than enough time 🙂
prisma sapphire
Now the road to Shadowbringers will be much shorter for you
viscid scroll
also they did shorten ARR questline in this patch i believe so it hopefully shouldn't be that much of a slog
prisma sapphire
Less quests and so on
warped nest
It is shorten by a bit to make the pacing more streamline
drifting ruin
Be prepared for voice actor changes after ARR, it was so jarring to me
viscid scroll
Returning player here, i am literally falling asleep through parts of ARR questline, having to redo it all over again xD
warped nest
It is like cutting around 20-30 quest from a game with close to 450-500 quests before Shadowbringers
Ballpark figure
pale rivet
did they mention on what level of ARR quest they deleted?
twilit arch
no
pale rivet
so it's unaffected before level 50?
warped nest
Eh?
twilit arch
all that was mentioned was that 13% of it was removed
pale rivet
ohhhh
normal marsh
source?
twilit arch
and no, 2.0-2.55 was all affected
prisma sapphire
Also some fetching quests now requires collecting only one item instead of 3
twilit arch
"About 13% of the quests we completely took away, but there are a lot of quests that introduce NPCs that are reappearing in the later story, so those had to stay. BUT we took away a lot of the steps in those quests that are required to complete them"
https://discordapp.com/channels/100463940835762176/151558839005741056/703213225294036992
pale rivet
i stopped doing mainquest at level 18 and went to do some side quest / hunting log / class and job quest because i heard that they improved leveling on main quest
gaunt depot
I am just finding the archer class quests to be annoying
remote lintel
do 24h maintenances still cost us a sub day
remote lintel
twilit arch
you do not get compensation for scheduled maintenance unless the game is down for over 24hrs
you are at worst, losing out on a few cents
prisma sapphire
So save a few cents or support your favorite game hmm
viscid scroll
At what level does SMN start to take over in DPS?
playing it in the early 20-30s and it feels clunky still
weary burrow
so anyone knows when the lvl 60 trial thing goes live ?;D
viscid scroll
so anyone knows when the lvl 60 trial thing goes live ?;D
@weary burrow should be this patch
low sun
when servers are back up
prisma sapphire
Once you unlock demi bahamut
gaunt depot
4 hours
fresh lodge
in just over 4 hours
weary burrow
ah cool thnx ;D
smoky glade
when will alliance raid item list come out?
leaden ginkgo
Since they're changing preferred worlds, if i wanted to leave a standard world to a now preferred world would i still have to pay the world transfer fee?
patent shuttle
hi i'm really confused here, my launcher keeps getting hitched at 21 % download and freezes. I can't download the patch on pc, is anyone going through this to?
smoky glade
isn't the free transfer from congested to preferred
so you'd still have to pay afaik
leaden ginkgo
Not sure, that's why i'm asking
fringe lotus
What level does ARR end and the next expansion start?
fresh lodge
@leaden ginkgo Yes
twilit arch
the only free transfers are from congested worlds to preferred or from any world to a new world. So you would still be paying for the transfer going from standard to preferred
fresh lodge
Its only from Congested to Preferred
twilit arch
and you wouldn't be getting the road to 70 bonus if you transfered
leaden ginkgo
ah ok, thanks
twilit arch
@fringe lotus 50
prisma sapphire
@fringe lotus Lv 50 and complete last quest
patent shuttle
hi i'm really confused here, my launcher keeps getting hitched at 21 % download and freezes. I can't download the patch on pc, is anyone going through this to?
low sun
@patent shuttle no, patching works fine, unfortunately no idea what might be causing it for you
drive full accidentally?
verbal monolith
anyone know when servers are back up?
gaunt depot
4 hours
verbal monolith
thankkkkk you
keen moat
@patent shuttle try changing DNS to 4.4.2.2?
stray holly
Ik confused by jobs. Is there classes and races and then jobs? What if I want to be do’s what do I choose? I picked gladiator but I read it’s not really dps. Which expansions do I need for lancer, samurai or black mage or do I pick all this later?
gaunt depot
you need to be 50 to unlock sam....the other ones are starting jobs
keen moat
you can do any role, just equip a weapon from that role in your weapon slot to change role.
prisma sapphire
@stray holly gladiator is a tank class, lancer and black mage don’t need to get an expansion for them, sam does need you to buy Stormblood.
keen moat
most roles are starting jobs. some you unlock later on
patent shuttle
Delete the 4e9a232b Subfolder i don't know how to change Dns but i deleted this and will see if this worked
keen moat
@patent shuttle i sent you a DM with the instructions. if that doesnt work then.. i dunno. FFXIV can be weird sometimes
stray holly
So I can pick lancer and race and then suddenly out of no where later down the road change to any dps class I want?
prisma sapphire
Yes you can
gaunt depot
as long as you have the weapon of that role yes
prisma sapphire
You can play as any job and switch any time you want!
stray holly
Should I just get all expansions now so I know I get the character I should
Oh ok I can switch when I want got it
Thank you!
patent trellis
Is there any tips to download the game faster ? I feel like the launcher is capping my connection*
low sun
I got uncapped speed earlier, maybe its just overloaded now? No idea
patent shuttle
its not working for me either. tried all the patch methods and it still gets stuck at 21%
keen moat
@low sun yeah i reckon a lot of people will be redownloading the game atm.
zinc orbitBOT
gaunt depot
woo 3 hours to go
patent shuttle
figured it out, i didn't have enough space on my harddrive to download patch
keen moat
@patent shuttle 😂 nice one haha
patent shuttle
spare plinth
Before shadowbringers when eos and Selene has different jobs, would two scholars in an 8-man raid use different fairies
One use eos other selene back then?
oak ice
Selene was very situational
Mostly only used when the boss had an AoE debuff that could be cleansed
halcyon zinc
Is maintenance over
gaunt depot
@halcyon zinc 3.5
halcyon zinc
I thought it will end early?
gaunt depot
nope this is a big update
oak ice
24 hour updates basically never end early
plain python
do you have currency-cap in free-trial?
unkempt oasis
when the server will back ?
gaunt depot
3.5 hours
plain python
like, I hear gil cap is 300,000 or something
alpine shadow
Yes
plain python
if I go over the cap, the excessive gil will disappear? Or just that I will continue to save up beyond the cap, but can only have 300,000 gil to use
oak ice
It disappears
plain python
I guess a Chocobo eats it
oak ice
It's like trying to fill water in a full container
patent trellis
Is the Brand-new Ring obtainable by a fresh character
thick lark
wasnt the mx suppose to end at 2Am GMT?
gaunt depot
3 am pacfic
gaunt depot
it said 3 am on login
thick lark
oh well! see ya later
oak ice
@patent trellis yes, you get it by completing all stages of a role (tank/healer/dps) in the hall of novice
hasty reef
I keep seeing that people are already pre loading the patch. Is there a way I am supposed to be doing that? Launcher just says game is unavailable when I log in
oak ice
It should prompt you to download the patch after you enter your username and password
When it has downloaded it will say the servers are unavailable
night token
so when will it actually be available?
oak ice
In just under 3 hours
solar surge
Do we know how long on the maintenance?
hasty reef
I'm like 99% sure I didn't download it though :/
plain python
I think 3 hours from now
oak ice
The main is just less than 3 hours, like I just said
oak ice
The patch wasn't very big, turtle, it took 10 minutes for me to download
hasty reef
I thought it was like 3gb?
night token
The patch wasn't very big, turtle, it took 10 minutes for me to download
@oak ice same
hasty reef
I just see people in the subreddit saying theirs took a few hours
oak ice
BC is a time traveler
gaunt depot
yep 🙂
oak ice
If it took them hours they must have had slow internet
hasty reef
I mean, I'd just call mine "passable" to be fair
tidal yarrow
just woke up. heard patch is downloadable?
leaden ginkgo
yep yuuko
tidal yarrow
should be 3.2gb from what I've heard
leaden ginkgo
just open the launcher and it’ll be available
tidal yarrow
atleast on ps4
leaden ginkgo
or on console yea
gaunt depot
yup
fresh jewel
Excuse me, I'm looking this cloth's name in global-server. But IDK how can I search it. Can sombody help me?
leaden ginkgo
Its the butler outfit from mogstation
thorn mantle
Hi guys, just wanted to ask if the inventory space could be expanded, or are there chests for me to put stuff in?
leaden ginkgo
retainers
thorn mantle
im in free trial if that matters
leaden ginkgo
Retainers
fresh jewel
Oh thankyou for speedy reply
leaden ginkgo
do you have a chocobo yet btw @thorn mantle ?
I dont think you have them in free trial though
thorn mantle
no i dont
oak ice
You get a chocobo saddlebag by doing a quest called "My Feisty Little Chocobo" at 30
frozen zodiac
what if maintenance ends early and I'm asleep?
gaunt depot
main wont end early
frozen zodiac
alarms are just sleep enhancers
oak ice
Maintenance is extremely unlikely to end early
leaden ginkgo
I think the chocobo saddlebag has 128 item space so when ff is back up you should work on unlocking that :D
thorn mantle
alright, so i assume im not high enough level to get extra storage yet?
oak ice
Correct
weary burrow
its prolly gonna be extended
leaden ginkgo
you may have missed the quest since it’s a side quest I think
patent shuttle
2 hrs and 46 min! woot
fresh jewel
I heard that in patch 5.3, gender lock is disappear. Is it true?
night token
gender lock?
frozen zodiac
You mean on the cat people and the bunny people Ruhr?
night token
on items?
fresh jewel
Oh... like girl miqoe'te and girl lalafels!
patent shuttle
race lock
night token
im lost
frozen zodiac
we already have girl miqoe'te and girl lalafels
patent shuttle
did you mean gender lock as in male/female?
leaden ginkgo
If I buy ff on steam can I just login to my account from square Enix?
fresh jewel
Oh I mean, girl-charactors can wear butler outfit
night token
ahhhh thats what i thought
frozen zodiac
yea, you can be a dude in a wedding dress
fresh jewel
!!!!!!!!!!!!!
leaden ginkgo
Wait really?
night token
thats dope. couple outfits i wanted to try out
fresh jewel
🥳 🥳
night token
i hope this is true
patent shuttle
butler is still locked to male
leaden ginkgo
so guys can wear the maid outfit?
fresh jewel
Oh... then, when It is unlock to girls?
night token
it isnt normally
zinc orbitBOT
frozen zodiac
told
patent shuttle
they haven't unlocked this feature for mogstation items besides the wedding event outfits
i know the gender lock was removed from the bunny outfits from gold saucer, wedding dress, and neir glam. i don't know what else in-game was unlocked
fresh jewel
😭
night token
ooh so female characters can wear the male striking gear from the near raids? o.o
coz that looks so much better
frozen zodiac
What is the manliest outfit in the game?
patent shuttle
i meant the Neir cosplay dress. not the class gear gender lock
oak ice
No, some glam is unisex, like 2B's outfit
night token
ooh okok i understand
oak ice
But there will still be variations based on gender for a lot of stuff
patent shuttle
i apologize for the misunderstanding
atomic turret
anyone know how can add a ps4 account to my pc one to get the free 30 days
oak ice
What is the manliest outfit in the game?
Subligar and topless
atomic turret
i downloaded it on my ps4 when it was free back in may and when I log in now it says i already have a service account
that has ff14
gaunt depot
well the install for the update was fast....now its just the copying thats taking forever
leaden ginkgo
Copying usually takes a while on PS4
It takes the same time for everyone tho on PS4 so at least you’re not alone xD
fresh jewel
Oh... I got this information from twitter. So I think wrong infomation is told in Korea. Thx T0T...)!
frozen zodiac
How come I've only ever seen one other person playing a duskwight?
leaden ginkgo
so what's a "field instance" and why are people saying there was "an announcement" about them that we should all be looking at?
faint flare
@atomic turret since you got it when it was free in may then you already have claimed the 30days and own the base game on ps4
frozen zodiac
the new bajra front is a 72 player instance
faint flare
It means normal zones will have additional instances
atomic turret
@faint flare no i havent claimed the 30 days and mog station doesnt show ps4 as bought or attached
karmic niche
Can we download the patch now? Or we have to wait for the maintaince
leaden ginkgo
oh ok ty
karmic niche
Cool ty
leaden ginkgo
Subligar and topless
@oak ice that's your definition of manliest? Pfft, big moustache and a scar
oak ice
Not mutually exclusive
leaden ginkgo
Word
oak ice
There's little manlier than Godbert in his crafting outfit
leaden ginkgo
@leaden ginkgo here’s the announcement if you wanted to see it https://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/news/detail/93c405b16ce67247c16b531a7b2954af72a33067
neat stratus
Im starting fresh for the first time today. Whats your personal best tip?
oak ice
Read your tool tips
warped nest
Do 
(story quest), don't grind level to outlevel your story progression
neat stratus
@oak ice thats actually a very decent one. Easily overlooked xD, ty
@warped nest 0% scaling ?
leaden ginkgo
Im starting fresh for the first time today. Whats your personal best tip?
@neat stratus complete the Smithy quests
neat stratus
@frozen zodiac im leaning towards SMN
tender merlin
so i invited my friends to try out final fantasy 14 with me through the start free trial button on the website, and since im going to play with the free trial too i decided to register again with a new email, all four of us can't register, we always get this i2501 error
neat stratus
@leaden ginkgo does the game guide you to towards it or is it "hidden"?
tender merlin
can someone kindly assist us?
crystal shoal
oh maybe because its under maintainance
warped nest
I am not sure if that actually affect registration
neat stratus
@warped nest scaling is basically that the quest/mins/area goes up/down to your level ish
warped nest
But if there is any reason, that's probably it
crystal shoal
the free trial will extend to heavensward after the maintainance
neat stratus
Mobs*
crystal shoal
try again in like 4 hrs
leaden ginkgo
@leaden ginkgo does the game guide you to towards it or is it "hidden"?
@neat stratus it guides you, but you can take them at lvl15, a level before you unlock your first dungeon.
As new player, completing the smithy quests will give you a free set of gear and an OP ring that grants 30% extra experience, equipable by all classes, with the best stats
warped nest
Yeah, no scaling, so don't grind level and do your lvl 10 story with a lvl 30 character
If you naturally gain a lot of exp, that's fine
But never put a pause on story so you can grind level to outlevel story
kind burrow
is there a way to change the trailer thats displayed on the title screen when you enter the game? or is it strictly ShB?
green grail
the new patch will enable that
warped nest
You can pause your story progression to level a different job and use said job to resume story
leaden ginkgo
yeah the smith quests are really helpful
kind burrow
ah so thats why they were talking about it, thanks
tender merlin
sorry that sounds interesting may i ask what quest that pertains to?
leaden ginkgo
helps you understand your job more and gives you good gear
tender merlin
the ring with 30% exp?
neat stratus
@warped nest is it basically do "only" Main story on first Job. Leave rest to alts?
warped nest
That's not what I said
What I said is, "don't go grind your Pokémon level so you can beat a lvl 15 gym with a lvl 50 Pokémon"
You are free to level a different job and use that to do story if your first job no longer interest you
Catching up in level with a different job is very easy
gaunt depot
yay copying is done now i can go to bed
leaden ginkgo
the ring with 30% exp?
@tender merlin the 30% exp ring is given to you after completing all the smith quests
The ring will last you till lvl 31
but the armor it gives you is also helpful
Yes
warped nest
Plus they look nice
leaden ginkgo
Indeed
ionic elbow
I just opened the launcher because I heard the update file is open for download , but when I opened the launcher there is no download bar or even play bar , when I hover my mouse on it it change to loading . is this normal ?
leaden ginkgo
and it also teaches you the basics of the job
neat stratus
@leaden ginkgo what level can U start the quest?
leaden ginkgo
@leaden ginkgo what level can U start the quest?
@neat stratus 15
Right before you unlock your first dungeon
So, you hit 15, complete Smithy quests to gear up and learn
Then proceed to obliterate dungeons
if you can’t find the quest just click “duty” on the bottom right where there’s options, and then “hall of novice”
The Smithy is also right outside your first dungeon, can't miss it
obtuse sierra
whats the point of starter edition now that free trial includes the same things? or am i missing something?
frozen zodiac
trial has restrictions
leaden ginkgo
You can't access the market board (player's shop)
Not that you really need it early on anyways
elder sinew
Can someone clarify, what DOESN'T the new free trial include? Do I need to buy the Complete edition or just buy a subscription?
leaden ginkgo
If you need gear, just go to a big city and buy it from the NPC. Unlike other mmos, NPC gear in this game is actually useful.
neat stratus
I saw the restrictions. Doesn't seem to bad. I bought the complete edition but there might not be any reason to activate it before the end of heavensward?
frozen zodiac
can't join an fc but yea
leaden ginkgo
I saw the restrictions. Doesn't seem to bad. I bought the complete edition but there might not be any reason to activate it before the end of heavensward?
@neat stratus exactly, hold on the activation
neat stratus
Fc=guild/clan?
leaden ginkgo
people usually sell the npc gear marked up on the market board but yeah a lot of the low level stuff you can just get from the npcs
frozen zodiac
yea