is there a savage roulette?
#questions-and-help
tidal yarrow
wispy parcel
old content is always still played thanks to the roulette
obsidian patio
Nope
wispy parcel
Savage you need a PF
violet star
people still do them for the mounts probably
obsidian patio
Savage is not in any roulette
tidal yarrow
would be fun ngl
plush hound
Well, A9S is still the fastest method for doing the Anima density grind, so there's that.
faint flare
Nah, people ditch when they get extremes in Mentor roulette
wispy parcel
only like 7% of the player base actually runs savage
faint flare
Savage would be worse
wispy parcel
a roulette for it would kinda be a waste
obsidian patio
@plush hound When done unsynced, which lets you skip every single mechanic
tidal yarrow
only like 7% of the player base actually runs savage
I've seen some datas literally 2 days ago that say the opposite
obsidian patio
Unsynced is not considered part of the difficulty discussion
little swift
Yuuko thays 25% of level 80 characters
tidal yarrow
yes
little swift
Not 25% of overall population
plush hound
@obsidian patio the question was whether they were done, not how. 😛
tidal yarrow
ofc not counting sprouts and stuff they don't even have access to it
wispy parcel
calculating all servers its less than 10%
little swift
The total number of max level characters is a lot smaller than full playerbase anyways
Also take lucky bancho census data with a grain of salt
tidal yarrow
calculating all servers its less than 10%
you mean calculating all accounts and not only lvl80 ones?
obsidian patio
Just level 80 ones, I assume
wispy parcel
all 80 accounts across all DC's
tidal yarrow
the datas I said above are only from lvl80 accounts.
vivid thorn
How often do people think overgearing content is an excuse to play poorly?
obsidian patio
IMO Never.
lone hawk
if you play bad you can still clear?
tidal yarrow
gear is pretty much always synced so is it even possible?
lone hawk
yes it is\
tidal yarrow
if you play bad you can still clear?
depends on the duty you're doing
zinc atlas
Im new to this game, how long are servers down for maintenance?
tidal yarrow
generally, yes
lone hawk
i can tell you this
inner birch
when can we download the patch ?
lone hawk
I played castrtum something
tidal yarrow
Im new to this game, how long are servers down for maintenance?
still 14h
obsidian patio
Unknown, reados. But you’ll have plenty of time to download it before the patch goes up
inner birch
oh ok thanks
wispy parcel
this is of this feb calculated together cause of the DC's at the lower end are the highest populated its about 7%
simple pine
castrum is a "normal mode" MSQ dungeon, you only get synced down to almost max itemlevel for ARR in there, that's why people burned through
lone hawk
yeah we do it easily even with 6 people (two dced)
tidal yarrow
this is of this feb calculated together cause of the DC's at the lower end are the highest populated its about 7%
I'm sorry but I don't get it
only 7% I see it's one data center
wispy parcel
dude
overall
population
and you need to factor in sever density
Balmung and Mateus are the 2 largest servers in the game dwarfing every other server by thousands
obsidian patio
Please move this to another channel, as it’s not relevant anymore.
leaden ginkgo
For damage output with tanks, do they all tend to hit like wet noodles? It was mentioned earlier that all tanks are within a few % of eachother for damage
clever cave
Wet noodles indeed
tidal yarrow
all tanks do kinda same dmg, gnb has best
faint flare
I think average is like
gritty oracle
So with the new ex trial coming out, will I get yelled at/kicked if I go in with min ilvl? I don't have much crystarium gear yet, especially not on my main, i got full normal neo ish and a relic.
Also, when a trial first comes out, how long do people prog it until it's mostly farm?
faint flare
70%? Of a dps
silver star
Can I change my characters name with a Fantasia when I get one?
silver star
Uft
simple pine
no thats a different paid option, of which you dont get a free one from MSQ
silver star
Like £5 I bet
neat steppe
I just got into this game before the maintenance happened, got to level 10 but everything is hella overwhelming, can anyone link me some good read up materials or guides I should know about?
gritty oracle
name change is 10 iirc
faint flare
Day 1 people dont usually care, provided you can enter the fight but more gear for leniency. How long it takes to actually clear, usually a lockout or two depending on the group
silver star
I might start again, I went on a wizard name generator 🤦🏻♂️
low sun
Merlinus Gandalficus?
leaden ginkgo
Oh, 70% of a dps isn’t bad compared to most mmos
tidal yarrow
lmao
gritty oracle
@neat steppe The MSQ explains pretty much everything. The first 15-20 levels are specifically about teaching you how to move, attack, use spells, interact with objects, et cetera. The only piece of advice I got for you is 1. do your class quests, 2. join the Novice Network, 3. get a RAF code, and 4. don't hesitate to ask anything, even if the question sounds stupid! There's no stupid question, just doing stupid things if you didn't ask.
static yacht
Dating mining will happen when the patch drops, right?
vivid thorn
and don't forget that skill is a thing
low sun
Ok whats an RAF code, I guess I need that too 😄
faint flare
Recruit a friend code
twilit arch
there will probably be people posting datamining in #archived-lore-spoilers yes
vivid thorn
I'm way more concerned about skill than gear
low sun
ahh ty
simple pine
at level 15 do the "hall of the novice" (sprout icon in any of the starting cities) it will teach you all the mechanics needed for group play, give you some armor and an exp boosting ring @neat steppe
gritty oracle
basically you ask an experienced player, they give you a code, you redeem it, both of you get free stuff. Details here: https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/special/friend_recruit/
tidal yarrow
Oh, 70% of a dps isn’t bad compared to most mmos
it depends also on the fight, rng, skill etc but generally speaking yeah.
this is a ss where everyone is kind of at the same level of skill
tanks are at 11.7k both
gritty oracle
Lockout means weekly reset, correct?
twilit arch
yes
faint flare
Why i said average
silver star
Merlinus Gandalficus?
@low sun Aladore 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
zinc orbitBOT
faint flare
In this scenario
leaden ginkgo
Thank you for the info 🙂
gritty oracle
ah. I meant "how long is it until finding a prog pf that accepts min ilvl is hard because nobody progs anymore". Sorry for phrasing the question weird.
neat steppe
@gritty oracle & @simple pine thanks 😄
crystal shoal
feels weird not being able to loginn
faint flare
Probably after a few days but there will always be groups that accept any. There will be plenty of prog groups for awhile
As people come to learn
cloud badger
Who are some good FFXIV content creators on youtube? I'm looking to watch some videos about classes, crafting, game changes etc :)
tidal yarrow
desperious was the first i knew about. lynx kameli is my favorite, he's more content about raids tho than other things
he also does other type of content tho
cloud badger
I've seen a few of desperious and his videos are alright.
he does some parse videos and rotation videos.
tidal yarrow
yes
wispy parcel
Mr.Happy is probably the biggest but his raid tutorials are questionable at best
unreal aspen
is the new trial part of the msq?
tidal yarrow
that's what I look for only basically. so I can't really tell you some classes or crafting content, maybe someone else here can
vestal charm
New player here (a few days old). Does their maintenance stick to it's full length of time? Or should I check in periodically through the day to see if it has finished early? 🤔
median locust
yes sofi
twilit arch
yes, sofi
wintry chasm
@unreal aspen yes
vocal star
Do bard BiS going to change?
unreal aspen
ok ty ty
median locust
99% no
wintry chasm
@vestal charm usually sticks but if it doesn't it won't be far off from its end date anyway
simple pine
@vestal charm full time most likely, at best 30min early but dont expect it
vocal star
i hope not, until i finally finished working on my bard
rich bay
BiS won't change until 5.4 for sure.
silver star
Anybody know if the preferred servers are gonna change?
silver star
😭
median locust
but we can't tell for sure
silver star
Oh well
median locust
when Hydatos came out it changed the best in slot for a few jobs so there's a very small chance bozja might do that, that's why I don't think BiS won't change for sure
vivid thorn
then again I really wish for more skill when stuff goes awry, before I think about gear
gritty oracle
when puppet's bunker comes out, will queues be really short because everyone's doing it, or very long because everyone's queuing up to do it?
median locust
probably around the same as 24-mans always are
clever cave
Short
median locust
maybe faster
gritty oracle
14 hours ish
median locust
type !maint in #kupo-bot-spam
dense geyser
tyty
halcyon zinc
Did ishgard restoration change?
halcyon zinc
Ok
faint flare
We only had a long time for this patch cause Covid
wispy parcel
it got delayed by 2 months if I remember
faint flare
5.31 should be a feq weeks, them 5.35 in a month and abit, 5.38 a few weeks prior to 5.4 and 5.4 in 3-4 months
Should nothing bad happen
kind burrow
can we !maint here?
faint flare
No
kind burrow
ah i see
kind burrow
what about ffxivdiscussuion?
faint flare
Only kupo bot spam
kind burrow
ok
wispy parcel
command dont work in that channel anymore
median locust
yeah because people would spam it everywhere lol
tidal yarrow
what those 2 aoes do?
median locust
- Damages mobs inside of it and slows them down
- heals you overtime when you stand in it
tidal yarrow
wow, I feel like I should know these things since ages
thx
I've also seen an astro aoe? maybe?
jolly sorrel
Its really useful to know what your fellow party members can do.
As a tank you do not want to run away from the good kind of aoe, for instance
clever cave
Big blue circles = good
wispy parcel
every quest with a little plus mark unlocks something
median locust
wise acorn
Graci Astra
mental garnet
this is the first patch i've been playing for, do they typically use the full 24 hours or would they open servers early if they finish early?
mental garnet
mmk
open coral
For a major patch like this when there hasn't been server maintenance for awhile, the whole 24 hours will typically be used, yes
The servers might open a few minutes shy of the full 24 hours
oblique violet
Where datamine info at?
open coral
There are no dataminers anymore, at least not ones affiliated with this Discord
oblique violet
Ooooo
twilit arch
any datamining will likely be posted/discussed in #archived-lore-spoilers for now
obsidian patio
Datamining is still allowed in #archived-lore-spoilers , but no one on the mod team will be providing it.
rugged shuttle
Hey
Are shader mods allowed? and whats the best shader to use in FF14? cause i feel the game colors are kind of bland
obsidian patio
Shaders are allowed, yes
You can take a look in #ffxiv-screenshots for a pin about ReShade
rugged shuttle
Thanks just what i wanted
@obsidian patio Apparently some of the links in the pinned messages are down
obsidian patio
Hmm, I guess just use the GShade discord link in that section then for that one
tame jay
Can't wait for the game to come online.
Gonna make my first character 🙂
Is there a reference to which data center is closest to West coast US?
If that's even a thing.
twilit arch
all of the NA datacenters are in cali
open coral
Because then they'd have to maintain two server farms in NA instead of one
And that's expensive
faint meadow
Just use the fantasia money smh
gray sage
i hear terms like "clipping" in regards to GCDs, what does it mean?
obsidian patio
!faq weaving
zinc orbitBOT
faint meadow
Yea, you're trying to keep the circle on most of your buttons spinning all the time for max damage output
leaden ginkgo
Hai Hai! Sorry asking but when is the maintenance gonna end? I'm in EU time (CEST), but i play in a NA server, Crystal, so that's why I'm a bit confused
faint flare
Do "!maint" in kupo bot spam
leaden ginkgo
Okay thanks!
spare plinth
doesnt it hurt to try astrologian
i wanna try it but i heard its hard. does it not hurt to try
grave totem
Now that the shadow gwiber can be bought with tokens, i have a question, can extreme trial hades be farmed unsynced and still get totems and mount drops?
grave totem
Oh i see. Thanks!
obsidian patio
Unsynced would do literally nothing to hades currently, since it’s current content and not synced in any way
grave totem
So next expac is when you can farm it easily for mounts / 99tokens?
obsidian patio
Yes
grave totem
Cool! Ty :D
gritty oracle
If I can't double weave, during my opener (on any job tbh) should I generally just eat the clip or make up my personal opening where I only have to single weave?
fringe lotus
Anyone want to perform some sort of blood magic to time travel to 3:00 am pst?
obsidian patio
quasi widget
i'd recommend ex trials imo. even if its not the current one
jolly sorrel
Depends on what you want to practice. I usually do my stuff on training dummies
white bronze
Jus want some pro opinions.. U think with the changes to nascent flash raw intuition is kinda pointless
?
faint flare
Already was better than RI
gritty oracle
I recommend dungeons to practice tbh, then normal raids/trials, then ex. If you're just easing into the job, queue for lower level dungeons to limit your own kit, learn it, then slowly expand your kit.
faint flare
The nascent change is a thing for solo
So you can use it solo
You already used it over RI in dungeons/raids
white bronze
Yeaa I've been wanting that forever
faint flare
Unless the attack kills you then you RI
faint flare
You just get to use it solo/when your macro target person is dead/out of range
A qol change
odd sluice
I'm new here, does updates really take that long?
faint flare
Yes
tidal yarrow
"single weave a rotation" what does that mean?
odd sluice
That was unexpected lmao, I was wondering if that was a normal thing , thanks to clear that out
obsidian patio
Single weave means you only use one oGCD between GCDs.
gritty oracle
single weave means only using one off-gcd ability between two gcd spells or weaponskills
faint flare
Its pretty normal for major patches
tidal yarrow
ah that makes sense, I got told to do it since I have 130 ping
gritty oracle
eh, with 130 you can usually double weave (use two ogcds) if you button mash fast enough. I have 178 and sometimes even I can double weave without clipping at all.
tidal yarrow
I need to try on a dummy
but I swear everytime I try to shinten and kaiten between gcds I just can't
i see it stopping for half a second before doing the gcd
gritty oracle
there are ogcds with a longer than normal animation lock (standard is .65s)
usually dashes/jumps
gritty oracle
corps-a-corps, displacement, jump/high jump etc
no idea don't play sam
what does it do
!kaiten
shrug
tidal yarrow
it's not anything like dashes jumps it's a buff of the next attack you'll do
it literally casts a buff
gritty oracle
then probably ping god just doesn't like you?
jolly sorrel
Kaiten causes the next weaponskill to crit, costs 20 kenki.. I think. Or it was just a +% damage
faint flare
You can double weave kaitan
Its just damage buff
50%
Only skills that have longer animation locks are movement abilities
jolly sorrel
Which is pretty damn huge
faint flare
Everything else is a 0.7s animation lock
gritty oracle
you're not macroing Kaiten, are you? macroing doesn't allow for skill queue and therefore is very hard to double weave
In general, I recommend button mashing so the next action goes off immediately after the animation lock of the previous action ginishes
tidal yarrow
nope I don't use macros on my rotations or generally almost for everything except patting and hugging people.
I honestly do smash my keyboard already
agile laurel
@tidal yarrow sounds like a ping problem. if you're not macroing, you definitely have the kenki for it, and you just don't see the animation there's nothing more it can be
tidal yarrow
i see, hope it's not that huge of a problem. from my experience I don't think it is just need to adapt
lone hawk
can u update already?
tidal yarrow
nope
lone hawk
😦
faint flare
People will be shouting about it all over
lone hawk
You think?
tidal yarrow
we all do
zinc orbitBOT
junior yacht
yes
wide cave
I have an old license uo to heavensward, if I buy a key for shadowbringers on a legal keyseller site now can I activate it there?
*up
wide cave
and I dont need to buy stormblood right?
faint flare
Nope, Shadowbringers gives all dlc
wide cave
hmmm :/
and if I get this "complete edition" that includes all the games, does it give 30 days of playtime too?
Bcs its on sale on some sites rn
wide cave
I see ... thanks mate. I'm so sad I lost my old email 😦 I had the cat mount too ...
faint flare
The 30days complete gives is the standard 30days sub registering Arr gives you
If its a new account you can use it and get the 30days
wide cave
wait so if I make a new email
and get the "complete edition" with a new acc, I get the 30 days right?
wide cave
I could just skip all cutscenes till mid stormblood where I left the game
faint flare
Again, the 30days is from registering arr
Though if you are going to do a new account
Do the free trial on it
Ad the trial is now expanded to Include heavensward
And you can basically get back to where you were
For free
With no sub
lone hawk
yup, never pay if you dont need to
wide cave
oh wow, so I can play for free till stormblood??
faint flare
Yes
wide cave
no downsides?
obsidian patio
Just the social restrictions of the free trial
lone hawk
0 downsides, you just play and enjoy story
obsidian patio
!faq triallimits
zinc orbitBOT
wispy parcel
though even skipping cutscenes
wide cave
ah, you guys are lifesavers. thanks for the help 🙂
wispy parcel
it will take a while to get back to where you were
wintry chasm
Might as well change that faq now
faint flare
Social restrictions, no retainers, gil cap, no market board
He tried but kupo bot wasn't taking it
lone hawk
pretty much nothing important
obsidian patio
I actually tried earlier but editing was broken for me
wintry chasm
Oh
obsidian patio
You’re welcome to try cal
lone hawk
at early game
wintry chasm
I'm good
lone hawk
who is the mentor, i mean what does it mean here?
wide cave
@wispy parcel yeah I know, but when I quit back then I didnt quit voluntarily, I truly love this game and want to see what all the fuss is about considering shadowbringers, given I loved the heavensward story and ppl keep telling me shadowbringers is even better
obsidian patio
Mentors on the discord are basically knowledgeable people who help out
wispy parcel
Unlike ingame
lone hawk
so.... like almost anyone :D?
wide cave
is the game on maint rn?
faint flare
Yes
jade dawn
Anyone know of a Twitter posting datamined stuff?
warped nest
Mentor in games are... 10-20% of people who are genuinely helpful, and the rest are people who become mentor to brush their own ego
lone hawk
I feel like @faint flare is more active than mentor guys and he is not mentor 😮
tidal yarrow
pretty much nothing important
I'd disagree
faint flare
What can i say
wide cave
and one more question, If I have a registered license on ps4 with one square enix acc, can I start the trial for the pc version with that same acc?
wintry chasm
No
faint flare
I'm bored all day
ember spoke
Does anyone know if the Diadem is perm? I'm still kinda new.
faint flare
Yes it is
wintry chasm
Since you bought the game on the account in general you can't use the free trial
warped nest
Yes
ember spoke
Thank you ❤️ Oh I'm so relived.
warped nest
The free trial is meant to attract new players, it is not for rewarding existing one
lone hawk
@wintry chasm yeah... noone understand why they did it other than make people angry
wintry chasm
tidal yarrow
I mean it depends, but not being able to do parties or send messages is awful imo
leaden ginkgo
Is there a channel for guild recruitment?
lone hawk
I never used this functionalities tbh
wintry chasm
twilit arch
#recruitment-aether
leaden ginkgo
Thanks
lusty halo
when will the patch be downloadable?
lusty halo
ok! thank you
oblique nest
proven bay
^
nimble holly
would it be possible to double dip on neir tokens if i get up early enough?
faint flare
No
Weekly reset happens during maintenance
Daily though
Hasn't
So you can double dip dwarves
dense pier
Wait so is flying in ARR already here?
faint flare
When mainy is over
dense pier
oh kk
rugged shuttle
i wonder when maintaince will end tomorow
little swift
if you're currently in an ARR zone when the patch comes
exit it and reenter it to enable flight
gritty oracle
When patch comes out, is there usually a writeup somewhere on the list of new stuff added into the game? The patch notes don't exactly go into detail, just "new fish/nodes/items/whatever else have been added".
rugged shuttle
They said the patch notes are complete
gritty oracle
@rugged shuttle !maint in #kupo-bot-spam
little swift
stuff like that will be probably be datamined/found by players pretty early
gritty oracle
is there usually a reddit post or something, like the fashion report bloke every week?
rugged shuttle
So basically 6 am tommorow eastern time
dense pier
Oh... Lightspeed for Astrologian got nerfed
I guess all their MP costs got reduced but welp
Oh... that new Draw effect
rugged shuttle
Do any of the servers have the double xp going on currently?
little swift
someone might make a post, but no one specifically does it since patches don't come this often
dense pier
Does this mean no more rng?
dense pier
I'm confused
rugged shuttle
I think it is saying the same seal as what you already have can't be drawn
little swift
it works like draw now
you draw 1 card
it just can't be a card with a seal you currently have
dense pier
OHHHH
little swift
thats all
little swift
yes
dense pier
Idk if that's better or worse...
little swift
its better in the sense that your sleeve draw div combos suck less
rugged shuttle
Its probably better since you have a 100% chance of not getting what you have alreay
little swift
and you get better mana management
dense pier
With sleeve draw you could get your %buff super quick in a fight after you wiped
little swift
you still can
gritty oracle
it's a weird change and I'm not at all sure where they were going with it, but I'll definitely try how this new AST plays.
little swift
prepull timers will be more or less the same
faint flare
But you lose 8 cards in a 12min fight
dense pier
^
little swift
thats true
faint flare
Its better for openers
proven bay
Since the flying in ARR doesn't include aether currents, do we still have to attune aether currents in the later expansion areas?
proven bay
So no aether current anymore
faint flare
No
proven bay
Even in HW, SB, and ShB
gritty oracle
expansion areas are not affected
dense pier
Holy shit Neutral Sect got a big buff
rugged shuttle
Only ARR doesn't have currents
dense pier
Astro in general got a huge buff
gritty oracle
you still gotta hunt for currents and do quests. It's just ARR that's changed
gritty oracle
imagine making like 4 unlock quests for every single arr zone
proven bay
I misunderstood the answer then
rugged shuttle
I am sad only 5.35 has ARR new game plus
gritty oracle
also RIP job questline NG+
rugged shuttle
Did they announce any new expansion coming this year?
dense pier
Attacks by the Coincounter in Aurum Vale will now have action indicators.
Coincounter killed too many newbies!
rugged shuttle
I don't remember Coun counter is arum vale
wintry chasm
Well the JP fanfest would have been this year in November
And that would have been our first look at the expansion
proven bay
Screw Coincounter 
wintry chasm
But that for cancelled and we don't know when they'll do something to replace it
proven bay
I had so many PUGs wipe from that
rugged shuttle
oh coin counter is the giant oger dude
wintry chasm
There will probably still be information this year but...who knows
rugged shuttle
Ah ok - thats fine maybe ill finish shadow bringers by then 😛
I have a bad habbit of starting new characters everytime i stop
junior yacht
that's assuming that COVID didn't push everything back
which it's quite likely to have done
proven bay
^
rugged shuttle
I think it was written Covid is having no effect on future content
junior yacht
we might be getting September releases from now on
wintry chasm
^
little swift
but according to them no more delays
wintry chasm
They aren't making up for time lost
little swift
patch cycle back to normal
proven bay
That's good at least
little swift
so roughly 3.5 months till 5.4
rugged shuttle
I think they were able to create a new content pipeline through remote access which didn't hurt future content
wintry chasm
Sure but those months worth of delays that happened now will still make everything a bit later than scheduled
Is the point.
rugged shuttle
No usually large development studios don't use the same teams for content they use 3 seperate teams. One for Maintaince, one for next patch content cycle, one for future patch content cycle. Then rotate them in and out as necessary
whole lagoon
guy's is the update available to download now
junior yacht
obviously it's hard to predict what will happen this far out
wintry chasm
No
whole lagoon
oh well
proven bay
The update will be available in 11 hours give or take
wintry chasm
Not that late for the download
proven bay
Well yeah, that'll probably be a few hours earlier
wintry chasm
Is that a question Aellesa?
dense pier
"Is this pretty sweet"?
polar hamlet
What do I need to do to unlock thr new upcoming beast tribe?
wintry chasm
The two sidequest chains in Kholusia wise first quests were aether current unlocks
So the one in Wright and the one in Tomra
And then a level 70 crafter should be it
faint flare
Ideally you would have done it prior to maint
wintry chasm
@polar hamlet oh and I forgot to mention when you do those two sidequests there will be one final quest that brings them together and that needs doing too
faint flare
But the quests arent too far into their quest lines
wintry chasm
And yeah when the patch is live all these quests should be 
"Is this pretty sweet"?
@dense pier eh
little swift
to be fair in the past things like namazu was locked behind 
chains
iron oracle
How long till maint end?
iron oracle
Oh lord
zinc orbitBOT
hardy iris
if i owned the original game with no expansions on ps4
does this new patch let me play for free again
hardy iris
sigh
warped nest
If you resume you sub, you will be able to play up to HW
ionic hazel
Whats up with them reverting the nerf on refulgent arrow
obsidian patio
They want to buff bards personal damage
rugged shuttle
Ya bards damage was pretty low
Ninja was so much better than bard in buffing damage
remote lintel
the patch notes list class quests as being replayable but does that include JOB quests
it doesnt seem like it
ionic hazel
Also how do i check how long the maintenance is left
probably like 11 more hours i think
mossy wadi
hi
twilit arch
its disabled here, use it in #kupo-bot-spam
and from the patch notes, no its just class quests at this point in time
mossy wadi
they deleted my chars on a trial account.... er the old trial
I mean I think they did. Did they used to do this?
faint flare
Looooooong ago
They did
Like
Ultra long
When i did my trial they used it
When iy was a time limit
mossy wadi
14 day trials are stupid.
faint flare
Both
ionic hazel
oh
consolegames wiki is whack
its telling me only 470 gear can be exchanged
@faint flare so all the e5-e8
drop all the gear coffers
except only shiva drops the weapon tokens
vocal shell
shiva drops a weap coffer iirc
faint flare
5 drops accessible
twilit arch
!faq savageloot
zinc orbitBOT
faint flare
There it is
The books are basically the failsafe to get your gear
If your rolls are shit
left moth
Books always drop once a week, chests are seperate thing
faint flare
Yes
ionic hazel
i cant just do ramuh or garudafrit
vocal shell
yes
left moth
If you want to just do 5 and 6 savage thats your choice but skipping to 8 means cant go back to 7 and get 2 chest clear
left moth
(Ok)
misty aurora
when maint done?
little swift
3am pdt
static beacon
Hey, if i remember correctly (i am on free trial) the game is pay to play, but in the store i see a fixed price for the pack with all the expansions, after that, how much is the subscription?
zinc orbitBOT
static beacon
thank you! what's the difference between entry and standard? only the amount of characters?
static yacht
yep
1 character per server for entry
but there are roughly 8 servers per data center
but you can do everything on one character anyways so
its kinda a moot point unless you are an alt-a-holic
static beacon
i see, thank you! i am more of a 1 character guy so it's nice to know
twilit arch
standard also lets you pay for more months at a time
if you prefer paying for 3/6 months rather than per month
stiff osprey
how long ago did maintenance start?
it's my first patch, so i was a little surprised to see servers hadn't popped back up
twilit arch
its a 24hr maint, we've got 9hrs to go
stiff osprey
muh ventures
leaden ginkgo
hi, are there patch notes for 5.3 already?
faint flare
Yes
twilit arch
leaden ginkgo
thank you! @twilit arch
jovial lynx
hello does someone remember if the new launcher starts the update as soon is available or is like old launcher?
obsidian patio
@hardy iris no. That basically deletes your entire account
rugged shuttle
6 am Eastern is expected time to finish if there are no delays
left moth
New launcher will have an update at the same time the patch data is available
After that it'll download as soon as allowed
hardy iris
i hit the cancel button and it just turned into a reactivate button
much useless
ill just play something else
obsidian patio
You need a new account entirely to replay the free trial
modest arch
Does anyone knows How much extra disk space will the patch take?
dim smelt
@modest arch about 2-3 gb maybe
modest arch
thanks.
dim smelt
Np
rich urchin
question, is the change to how durability is calculated meant to mean i can go into a dungeon/raid/whatever at 1% on everything and it wont actually break until i leave?
faint flare
Or die
rich urchin
oh so if you die it still breaks
obsidian patio
Sounds like it won’t update the amount until you die or finish the instance
left moth
yeah, treasure map dungeons and fates will still process durability/spiritbound changes (either win or fail)
as is dying in instance or finishing it
(which I'm not sure if it means dying = losing durability or if it only counts a party wipe/restarting a solo instance)
zinc orbitBOT
late cove
Advice needed, anyone have suggestions on which of the preferred servers to join. I don't want to regret my choice
little swift
we don't know what the preferred servers will be after the patch yet
choosing one from a data center in your region is all that matters
kind burrow
if you dont have friend in any of them i suggest to pick the one with largest population you know of and EXP buff with EXP buff being the more important
little swift
meribielle
kind burrow
overall it doesnt matter too much though
kind burrow
?
kind burrow
really?
little swift
servers are set to preferred so that people will fill them up more
kind burrow
wow...been playing for 2 years and didnt know that lol, thanks XD
late cove
thanks, i didnt know they were changing this patch. Just looking to join an active server. The little I played so far has me hopeful though. Everyone has been nice. Just looking for a FC
little swift
its changed every major patch
kind burrow
sorry about the misinformation
little swift
we're in maintenance for the next 8 or so hours
so we'll find out closer to the end
if you're already playing on something its okay to stay there
most content is done cross server within the data center anyways
late cove
I played yesterday for the first time just messing around and im dying to play now. I didnt know we would have 24h maintenance. Guess ill do some research in the mean time
little swift
Ask here if you have questions
late cove
I'm severe altaholic so i'm happy I can play all the classes on one char. Any other discords or website with good info for a beginner?
little swift
!faq newplayertips
zinc orbitBOT
little swift
We have lots of faqs that we make in collaboration with the balance
Those people are the number crunching nerds that make the big brain stuff possible
!faq balance
zinc orbitBOT
little swift
Also #resources has a bunch of other stuff to look at that may have what you're after as well
Please feel free to ask if you want to know something
late cove
ooh nice. Thanks ill be back for more specific help 🙂
stray holly
I bought the steam version yesterday including 30 days of sub. I install and see its maintance. I think ok I try today. I just wante dto log in and check and there is still maintance but I got this message now?
This service account does not have a valid FINAL FANTASY XIV license for this platform or your subscription has expired.
To register a license, please visit the FINAL FANTASY XIV: Mog Station (https://sqex.to/Msp).
For further help with this error message, please check this FAQ (https://sqex.to/ffxivnovalid
I have not even played
low sun
have you activated the coes in the mog station? if you buy it on steam and then do nothing its not active
codes*
stray holly
the only thing I think is that my password might have one nsfw wor din it? like very pg nsfw word
I believe I did it yesterday
maybe it did not register due to maintance?
low sun
no idea sorry, probably best to wait until after maintenance and see what it says, cant do much while most things are down
stray holly
this is what it says Standard
Remaining Days ： 29 days (Free Play Period)
Add Subscription
Add Game Time Card
Steam Payment
Buy gametime with paysafecard
0 days No recurring subscription payments.
Click here to sign up for recurring subscription payments.
Inactive
I guess you are right its probably due to maintence
white gorge
Is game still in maintenance?
twilit arch
yes
white gorge
Oof
twilit arch
its 24hr maint, wont be over for another 8hrs
stray holly
Can someone explain these dlcs btw Heavensward
Stormblood
Shadowbringers
Compared to realms which I have and own. What is new in the other ones? Can I still have a boat and fish in realms reborn
low sun
higher level cap, new zones, new story, new classes, new raids. pretty much just more of everything
stray holly
awesome ok!
I started a human gladiator haha
ill just get familiar before I get into the dlc
white gorge
Thanks kael
stray holly
i come from bdo high grinding all day style so this will be chill (i loved fishing in bdo tho)
thanks for all help
low sun
did you buy the starter edition?
stray holly
yeah
low sun
bit of unfortunate timing
low sun
the free trial changes after maintenance to include heavenswards for free and free play to lvl60, but only if you dont already own a realm reborn
twilit arch
the starter edition is receiving the same benefits
low sun
ohh ok then
stray holly
yay!
twilit arch
so 9$ for arr+hw is kind of a steal
stray holly
what is arr :3
twilit arch
a realm reborn
stray holly
ah!
white gorge
Does the free heavensward mean it comes with the heavensward jobs?
low sun
ye
twilit arch
yes
stray holly
its split up got it unless you get all
white gorge
Wow
tulip plover
What time is the gqme back up
stray holly
wait so me and my fiancee can play together without her buying it just yet if she dont like ti?
dapper shadow
you still have to finish ARR main story and enter HW story to unlock the jobs though
white gorge
SE is suddenly so friendly seriously
stray holly
how long is the free trial
low sun
unlimited
stray holly
unlimited "trial"?
twilit arch
maintenance ends in roughly 8 hrs @tulip plover
stray holly
😮
low sun
yes, but you have restriction,s but theres no time limit
tulip plover
:l
faint meadow
Ye but it's still kinda poop since you don't have the full game yet. and you have to sub after you play on a paid account tho
white gorge
Hmmm
stray holly
I have no idea what jobs are or anything I am super new
tulip plover
Well back to crash bandicoot
dapper shadow
you can play as long as you want. your level cap will be 60, and you cant access some social functions
white gorge
Some social functions include the market
wary rapids
sorry, this may have already been asked before, when are the EU servers coming back up?
white gorge
So ur basically playing single player FF14 lol
low sun
yea but plenty of stuff to try and see if you like it
dapper shadow
no market no pt invite no joining free company etc
twilit arch
maintenance ends in roughly 8 hrs @wary rapids
wary rapids
thanks!
dapper shadow
(you can always spam !maint in botspam to see the time)
white gorge
I see... so this is the cruel catch. They deprive you of social contact away from human beings
faint meadow
eh
white gorge
Is this a social experiment
faint meadow
sort of
dapper shadow
you can always ask kind strangers to help you into a party though
faint meadow
The trial is nice, but they really want you to sub instead
it's a great way to try the game
crimson wind
Did all AOEs in SB have damage falloff?
twilit arch
the reason why the trial is so limited is because of bots
faint meadow
and please buy the CE, not the starter edition. MMOs are not worth dipping your feet in with the starter edition
twilit arch
before the made it so that trial users can't whisper or invite you, bots would just spam you with party invites and whispers
white gorge
Hmmm is this game gonna be b2p any time soon like guildwars 2?
twilit arch
no
faint meadow
nope
white gorge
Welp
faint flare
It is
low sun
@stray holly if you have some money to spare you might want to just create a new account for ff14 and buy the complete edition for 19.99 on the official site, it has all addons and 30 days of playtime, unfortunately the complete edition isnt for sale on steam
white gorge
Will enjoy the 1 month
faint flare
Its a theme pack mmo
white gorge
Aye
leaden ginkgo
ce is 29.99 no?
low sun
its 19.99 for me, in euros
leaden ginkgo
gotcha
white gorge
FF14 is basically a Final Fantasy theme park in MMO style lol
white gorge
I see :v
crimson wind
true
tame jay
What are some benefits of a preferred server? Sorry, I'm just reading up before I join you all in FFXIV 🙂
dapper shadow
you level up faster
crimson wind
You're an Easter egg.
faint meadow
Like, XIV takes common elements and references from other games but
faint flare
100% xp buff on EVERYTHING
faint meadow
It is very much
tame jay
An easter egg? Sorry
faint meadow
It's own universe
tame jay
Don't undestand
faint meadow
and story
white gorge
My experience with mmos traumatized me so it’s hard for me to invest in this rn. I dunno if ill change my mind about it lol
low sun
@tame jay 100% xp boost and you get 2 weeks of extra playtime when reaching lvl30 on your first character
white gorge
Im looking at you Blade and Soul
faint meadow
Well, I can guarantee this isn't BnS
tame jay
I understand. If my friends are within that Preferred server's data center, i can still play with them?
They don't play as of right now, but maybe if we they come back, I'd like to still play with them.
obsidian patio
@tame jay yes
low sun
@tame jay same datacenter is enough to play together
tame jay
Sweet, thanks everyone. 🙂 I think I'll start on a preferred server.
rugged nimbus
Repeatable grind is the core of any mmo
white gorge
;;;
faint meadow
Dunno what that means, but I don't think you can buy anything in this game to grind
leaden ginkgo
Are you complaining about mmos?
faint meadow
Most this game offers is skip potions for classes and story
white gorge
Ye the cash shop
faint meadow
But like
low sun
cant do that in ff14
white gorge
To avoid rng fail
faint meadow
Oh there isn't anytihng like that
obsidian patio
None of that here
white gorge
And ur equipment becoming 0
low sun
theres no korean chance based gear upgrading
white gorge
Oh
faint flare
There's nothing in the cash shop that gives you advantage
You gotta work for oy
Even level skips put you at 70
Opposed to 80
leaden ginkgo
Korean rng, more like wallet galore
leaden ginkgo
FfXIV is far from p2w
tame jay
Looks like they're on Primal.
faint flare
The devs do think about these things
tame jay
Famfrit is a lame name hehe
low sun
You can take a look at the cash shop right now (its out of game, cant even access the shop ingame)
white gorge
Sounds like this game is an actual video game
faint flare
Yes
white gorge
I see thanks
faint flare
You can hold the code
verbal forge
cool
low sun
oh wait its under maintenance too nvm 😄
white gorge
Yes u can hold onto the code
verbal forge
then is it refundable if by any chance? that i didn't like the free trial?
white gorge
U can even refund it as long as ubdont activate it yet
verbal forge
OH THANKS ALOT THATS ALL I NEED
verbal forge
ehh i won't open any codes before i activate it
rugged nimbus
@verbal forge make sure you dont click the reveal code button after purchasing
white gorge
Aye
faint flare
If you dont reveal then you should be fine
verbal forge
then play Free trial for a month
verbal forge
anyway
white gorge
If i can play forever and also access lecel 60 content
tame jay
Can you use the market on the pre 60 trial account
verbal forge
or do you still have to get it from the receipt?
low sun
@tame jay nop
leaden ginkgo
You can't use the market board, but you don't really need it at that point anyways
verbal forge
anyway
low sun
As long as the trial restrictions dont annoy you, you can play the free version as long as you like
low sun
game is down for content patch deployment
white gorge
Subscribing just for market? Hmmm
verbal forge
i see
white gorge
Doesnt feel worth it
low sun
market, all social features, and everything thats post-heavensward content
tame jay
Hey @white gorge , no disrespect but are you trolling?
verbal forge
i think i'll have a shit ton of hours in this game
paying monthly fee to get monthly content
verbal forge
wait so what if i didn't pay my subfee, does that lock me out of the game?
low sun
Again if you really dont care about social features or post 2015 content, you dont need to sub
white gorge
Nope it’s really just doesnt feel the pay-off is worth it after a month of subbing conpared to unlimited free trial and im not complaining lol
verbal forge
i mean what if i have shadow bringers and i didn't pay subfee
zinc orbitBOT
verbal forge
does that mean i won't be able to play shadow bringers content?
low sun
You cant play without active subscription
low sun
Its a completely subscription based game
verbal forge
i see
faint flare
The trial is a "free to try"
white gorge
Anyway thanks bros
rugged nimbus
No one here is going to fight to convince you otherwise. If youre happy in tbe trial then live it up.
verbal forge
sorry i thought i would be like having limited features like i cannot go do raiding or something else
verbal forge
or being able to just lobby
low sun
If you are a previous subscriber you cant login to the game without renewing subscription
faint flare
Since party finder is locked
verbal forge
i see
verbal forge
im thinking of using this game as a way for me to stop buying too many fast food
faint flare
It is entirely possible to do Savage as a free trial
If you somehow get into a party for it
verbal forge
oh last question
if i activated shadow bringers
there is no way for me to go back to free trial right?
verbal forge
i see
faint flare
Would need a whole new one
verbal forge
its account bound
faint flare
Again. The trial is more "free to try" then "free to play"
leaden ginkgo
You can have multiple licenses bound to the same account though
verbal forge
anyway i'll play OCE server
white gorge
Actually now that i think about it this game is definitely hella worth it to sub. Just wish there was more game time cards than the 60 day one
tame jay
If anyone is new and wants to be friends in a primal datacenter, HMU 🙂
verbal forge
oh wait wait Which server is the best for speaking english asian here?
since i live in SEA
white gorge
Is there gacha in this game
verbal forge
JP doesn't give me lag at all which is pretty nice
faint flare
No
leaden ginkgo
No gacha
white gorge
Wow i see
faint flare
Not gacha that you use real money for
verbal forge
oh no gacha, i love the game already
white gorge
Wow
leaden ginkgo
You can buy 180 day bundle for 70 bucks iirc
rugged nimbus
@tame jay you set on primal?
white gorge
Sorry for my incessant rambling then this game is great
faint flare
There's no real "scummy" tactics here
halcyon ledge
Are there mounts or gear exclusive to the shop?
glad comet
Elemental Data Centre is the best option.
halcyon ledge
is there even a shop?
tame jay
@rugged nimbus pretty sure, yeah. I got some friends on excalibur
verbal forge
Elemental Data Centre?
low sun
shop sells mounts and costumes ye
verbal forge
is Elemental Data centre like Jp server?
faint flare
Yes
leaden ginkgo
maplestory has scarred me
@tame jay PSO2, tree of savior
faint flare
Its a JP data centre
verbal forge
I see
glad comet
It's the unofficial OCE data centre
low sun
the shop isnt ingame tho, so you'll never see it if you dont visit it out of game
faint flare
All jp data centres are in the same location physically
glad comet
A lot of SEA & OCE play on those server
halcyon ledge
I played a Gameforge game, I'm scared of cash shops haha
verbal forge
i see thanks alot athrun
white gorge
You can buy 180 day bundle for 70 bucks iirc
I tried looking for a diff game time card in the SE store but i dont see it. Do i have to sub first before i can see that mode of subscription?
glad comet
It's forever
glad comet
good luck farming it
faint flare
You can get your rathalos mount, poogie and palico
glad comet
white gorge
Wow
faint flare
As minions yes
verbal forge
would be cool if they added nergigante as mount or as a boss battle instead 😄
faint flare
And ochestrion rolls for some of the MHW music