my mates hit mid 20 and get to play free till 60
#questions-and-help
noble gyro
tidal yarrow
okay
gloomy mortar
What I did is level multiple jobs to 35 before buying
crisp mural
Only 505 weapon is the savage weapon isnt it
zinc orbitBOT
slate arrow
yes
crisp mural
Atm
simple shore
Yes, thats correct
gloomy mortar
Yes
tidal yarrow
what savage?
crisp mural
Eden 8
tidal yarrow
which of them all
simple shore
E8S
slate arrow
Eden 8 Savage
tidal yarrow
ah okay
noble gyro
What I did is level multiple jobs to 35 before buying
@gloomy mortar I made 1 unit to 35 only
tidal yarrow
you need to clear once to get it? everyone in the party will get it? is there a roll or
noble gyro
sigh... did I play it wrongly
simple shore
Its a roll.
tidal yarrow
ugh I see
Only 505 weapon is the savage weapon isnt it
by this update anything is just changing about this?
simple shore
Nope
tidal yarrow
good
valid pecan
@obsidian patio where can I start the quest chain for eureka wep?
obsidian patio
Initial unlock quest should be in Rhalgr's Reach by the scrip people to the west of the aetheryte
after that all follow-up quests are either in eureka itself or from Rodney in Kugane who takes you into Eureka
twilit python
how do i pay for subscription with crysta? the only 2 options i get on the mogstation are steam and paysafecard
spare plinth
For the 6 month subscription, am I paying $13 or $78
obsidian patio
$78
simple shore
The latter. which works out to be 13/month
simple shore
Entry is more than sufficient for most players.
plain python
the standard one is for getting mule characters?
spare plinth
So $13 for one month entry
simple shore
Yeah more or less Momo.
obsidian patio
mule characters aren't really a thing, and it's hard to transfer items to your other characters without a third party or using the marketboard.
simple shore
Well, i was thinking more along the lines of mules for....other things.
fucking housing mafia
plain python
can you go back to entry sub after you go with standard sub? 😮
tidal yarrow
i heard that gnb should have a lot higher dps than drk?
plain python
can you upgrade entry to standard while entry duration is still running? Or only at the end of entry?
simple shore
On average, yes, GNB will beat DRK at equal gear levels in terms of DPS.
twilit arch
yes you can upgrade while you're still on entry
simple shore
But DRK CD's > > > GNB
zinc orbitBOT
Tick, Tock, Kupo!
twilit arch
please use #kupo-bot-spam @leaden current
tidal yarrow
if they both played perfect, how could this happen?
leaden current
sorry about that
simple shore
RNG is a thing.
tidal yarrow
fair enough
obsidian patio
some fights also just cater to some jobs better due to forced downtime at certain time points
slate arrow
90 to 100 percentile is generally just based on your crit RNG at that point
tidal yarrow
that 10% gap seems a lot
since they all 99 as average
did they really get that lucky?
simple shore
No, not really
10 is overstating it
I'd say its more like 95 or 96 - 100 is down to RNG. Which is why people chasing 99+ will sometimes just run the fight over and over even without loot.
tidal yarrow
gotcha
simple shore
There's also another factor to consider, and this applies to tanks alot
slate arrow
mechanic RNG
simple shore
When a tank wants to parse, sometimes a specific strat will be used to guarantee them uptime.
or to allow them to abuse AoE (this isnt as much of a factor this tier)
Like my 99 back on Phantom Train happened partially because my static let me do almost all the damage to the add wave.
tidal yarrow
yeah I see I was infact thinking stuff like.. if the party decides to use DNC buff on an unusual job like nin instead of sam
isn't that a easy way to get high parse?
cause people usually won't buff nin
simple shore
Well, DNC isnt a factor because its rDPS / aDPS that is used to measure you on fflogs
Here's a quick reference on what that means
TL;DR you cant just feed someone a bunch of buffs and that magically makes them parse at 100
cuz they all get subtracted out
noble gyro
guys, since I brought the game already. I need to make use of it over the free trial.
tidal yarrow
thanks. understood
noble gyro
so just to get more out of it, best thing to do is to hit 60 ASAP?
tidal yarrow
got a quick read
noble gyro
then play content that free trial dont have?
simple shore
You should always focus on doing MSQ / Job Quests as your primary thing. Dont focus on your character level.
Since MSQ gates everything
noble gyro
whats the average time to go from 35 to 60 or 1 to 60?
simple shore
Really depends on your playstyle. Its a hard question to answer.
and on top of that
noble gyro
I just want to make my badly spent money better spent
simple shore
5.3 is revamping ARR quest flow so we dont have a reference point for that yet
noble gyro
whats ARR?
obsidian patio
the base game
noble gyro
omg
plain python
they make it so you kill less monsters to progress?
tidal yarrow
TL;DR you cant just feed someone a bunch of buffs and that magically makes them parse at 100
yeah glad to hear, usually people with ACT show rdps or adps? from the wifi read I had adps seemed the most handful stat to me
noble gyro
worse thing, I lose the first day of my sub since it's 24hr maknt
obsidian patio
@plain python among other things, yes.
simple shore
@tidal yarrow ACT shows raw DPS only. Its not capable of showing you rDPS or aDPS.
So you'll often see dramatically different numbers from ACT vs. fflogs
Too calculation heavy to be done live, basically.
tidal yarrow
that 25.5k of the screenshot was dps or rdps?
obsidian patio
13% of all MSQ for 2.0-2.55 is being cut out entirely from the main story, with a larger percentage of the quests being reworked to flow better.
Quests that also want you to grab multiple items off the ground or kill multiple monsters will generally now only ask for one
tidal yarrow
I can guess it was dps
simple shore
Yuuko if you go to an individual fights parse, it should show you a column for DPS and another column for rDPS
raw DPS is there as a reference but rDPS is what you're getting ranked off of
tidal yarrow
oh, I need to check again then
gloomy mortar
If you still have irregular tomes of law after the patch, can you still buy things or are they worthless after it goes live?
twilit arch
you'll be able to buy items, just won't be able to earn anymore
dapper shadow
You cant just show only adps or just show only rdps because they give context to different things
simple shore
@tidal yarrow Another thing to keep in mind, is that your Parse % column on an individual fight may not be the same as Hist % on your character page. Hist % is the one that "matters" for overall ranking purposes - essentially when you kill a boss it snapshots your parse at that point in time and ranks it. If later on what was a 99 parse is today a 90, you still are credited with having a 99, if that makes sense.
plain python
your code goes a 30-day play time
simple shore
Afterwards you must subscribe to continue playing
noble gyro
even if before lv 60?
plain python
I'm not at home now, but the server down for maintenance yet? Or how many hours before it goes down?
simple shore
Yes, your level doesnt matter
noble gyro
wow
twilit arch
maint starts in 2hrs
oak ice
Buying the base game gives 30 free days
noble gyro
u think its better to remake account and buy the game again?
plain python
burger, I won't be able to be back in time then :shy:
noble gyro
since u can do alot inbwtween 1 to 60
dapper shadow
Your sub unlocks social functions such as being able to invite people to a party, join Free Companies, trade on the market board, etc. so dont feel compelled to try to finish HW
tidal yarrow
@tidal yarrow Another thing to keep in mind, is that your Parse % column on an individual fight may not be the same as Hist % on your character page. Hist % is the one that "matters" for overall ranking purposes - essentially when you kill a boss it snapshots your parse at that point in time and ranks it. If later on what was a 99 parse is today a 90, you still are credited with having a 99, if that makes sense.
mm.. you're saying that hist% doesn't update when your dps get beaten? so shouldn't it matter a bit less actually?
simple shore
That's entirely up to you. I wouldnt advise it myself, but i have no idea at what pace you play.
shrewd owl
iirc leveling to 35 for the first time gives u a free 15 days of playtime too
simple shore
It matters more because its accounting for the game changing, essentially.
dapper shadow
No
simple shore
If you get a 99 in the first few weeks of Savage, that 99 was achieved at a lower gear level than a 99 today.
So its still a 99
dapper shadow
You can play indefinitely in free trial but you are stuck at cap 35
They dont give you free sub
simple shore
I mean at this time, we can probably stop saying free trial sticks you at 35
twilit arch
15 days free is for leveling to 30 on a preferred server
noble gyro
That's entirely up to you. I wouldnt advise it myself, but i have no idea at what pace you play.
@simple shore I joined cos my friends from uk are playing. but im in Asia. to party it was going to be a weekend thing. but now I may have to spend some time power lvlkng to make iynworth it
tidal yarrow
but maybe that 99 is actually not that good and people doing that savage now after months are doing it a lot better and more efficiently
excluding the better gear they ofc have
simple shore
Hey, i'm just telling you how the community has concluded to handle ranking.
stray holly
Hi! I am in America now but I am from Norway. This is what steam says: Notice: Includes 30 days of free game time for all newly created service accounts.
Monthly subscription required to play.
The PAL version of FINAL FANTASY® XIV Online Starter Edition will require a European & other Regions Square Enix Account to play.
Can I now make an account and pay the fee for the starter edition and then later connect a PAL version account and play the same character
simple shore
and Hist % is the one that's used for your overall
tidal yarrow
Hey, i'm just telling you how the community has concluded to handle ranking.
yeye ofc and I'm just trying to understand
stray holly
I want to play a little here in America and then come home and play from Norway
do I need to use VPN or is the servers different
hard elk
umm how do i switch to special node
simple shore
"Special node"?
hard elk
can't seem to find Skybuilders' Yew Log
obsidian patio
removed
stray holly
Can I ping someone to help since you guys are a little busy
twilit arch
those items are no longer in game
hard elk
😮
twilit arch
just focus on phase 2 recipes. most of the materials for those are gotten in diadem (or marketboard)
simple shore
I'd answer your question but i have no idea Puffer. Someone else will have to answer.
obsidian patio
@stray holly region only matters for registering the game license and game time codes, it doesn't restrict where you can play from or what server.
honest anvil
why is it that when i tell my carbuncle to sic, it guards instead? the “guard” symbol is next to its status bar(?)
hard elk
some items cant be find by gathering?
stray holly
@obsidian patio Thank you!
obsidian patio
The grade 1 skybuilder stuff can't be gathered anymore, is what we're saying.
you get grade 2 stuff from the diadem
hard elk
ahh i see ok
(first time doing ishgardian restoration XD)
simple shore
Grade 1 is from an earlier phase of restoration. It's basically deprecated at this point, its only "there" in the turnin list still so if someone still has them they can get rid of them.
hard elk
sorry ok ok thanks
thick elm
friend is getting back into FF, but they're having mad issues with logging in. They're on steam, already 200+ hours and when he hits play it asks him to put in a registration code. he has all his reg codes, plugs them in, it says "the entered code has already been registered."
simple shore
And chances are that current Grade 2 stuff is about to get the same treatment
since we're about to enter the next phase
@thick elm "getting back into FF" - when did he last play?
thick elm
2017
simple shore
Okay so he's probably not actually on steam
That account distinction happened later
thick elm
we said because of a client/launcher change he might have issues, as we've had other friends with that, but no-one has had his problems before
simple shore
He likely needs to download the standalone launcher and use that
obsidian patio
Have them take a picture of this part of their mogstation account
stray holly
played this game back when it was released on ps4. Does those account transfer or purchase in any way?
wanton cipher
Wanna give me some time? lol
icy quiver
Hi, I am curious, are you enjoy alliance raids? I have the lv 50 (all 3) and they kinda meh, you just rush it and thats it
dry prairie
any suggestions if this rotation is good?, im kinda new to blm and im trying to figure out here and there , any tips 
simple shore
The level 50 ones are particularly....easy
They get alot better and more engaging later
leaden ginkgo
the lvl 50s are a joke
green grail
!faq blmguide
zinc orbitBOT
simple shore
You wont "rush" Orbonne Monastery, that much is for damn sure
green grail
@dry prairie
simple shore
lol
icy quiver
oh I thought they all easy
warped nest
!faq blmleveling
zinc orbitBOT
dry prairie
oh tyty
icy quiver
so the rest are more intersting?
simple shore
Yes
stray holly
played this game back when it was released on ps4. Does those account transfer or purchase in any way?
thick elm
he has an old SE acc he can log into, but he can't log into mogstation on the same acc for whatever reason. something something "suspicious activity". maybe someone tried to hack his acc while he's been gone or moved location.
dense turtle
Transferring from ps4 to PC do I still need to purchase the starter edition come Tuesday or can I just buy shadowbringers ?
icy quiver
I was told the lv 70 gives me the artifact weapon, with lv 80 I upgrade it?
obsidian patio
no
simple shore
You must complete all three level 70 24-mans to unlock the level 80 relic weapon questline. However it does not give you a level 70 weapon, it gives you a level 80 weapon.
obsidian patio
@stray holly what exactly do you mean?
warped nest
The lvl 70 alliance raids are the pre-requisite to unlock the quest to get lvl 80 relic
leaden ginkgo
the last 24man of HW is a pain when people are in bot mode
simple shore
And you must be 80 to continue that
stray holly
@obsidian patio I see this game on steam and on its website. Was the ps4 version connected to the original launcher and can I log in with that account and just buy a nbew sub
icy quiver
oh thanks a lot
And how it works? When I unlock relic wewapon, I can purchase it for all classes?
simple shore
Your first one at 80 is free
icy quiver
and the rest?
simple shore
Other jobs will cost 1000 poetics (4 thavnairian scalepowder)
thick elm
telling him to dl the standalone launcher in the meantime to see if it'll work, here's to hoping it's that easy :p
obsidian patio
Playing on PS4 does not restrict you in any way from playing on PC/Steam or Mac
icy quiver
oh thanks a lot
Btw the 24h maintance start in 2 hours?
simple shore
Yes
stray holly
Last I played was many years ago. Is it still mogstation or something else?
opal tree
is it good to transfer to a new server as a new-ish player?
warped nest
You can transfer
simple shore
"transfer"? Why would you be transferring if you're new?
warped nest
But it do you no good
icy quiver
ty
slate crow
Just got the maintenance message. How long we have left?
warped nest
!maint
oak ice
!maint
oak ice
Lol
twilit abyss
what's the best general purpose skillset for a rank 10 chocobo?
warped nest
Healer/Dps
simple shore
Most people spec healer first. I prefer otherwise, but healer is the usual.
obsidian patio
I'd say up to Chocobo Cure and then the rest in dps
stray holly
@obsidian patio Last I played was many years ago. Is it still mogstation or something else?
warped nest
Just don't do tank tree
obsidian patio
still mogstation for account management, yeah
twilit abyss
yeah i went all out on DPS and i think i should have gone cure + DPS
simple shore
Its not a big deal. You can eventually have everything.
twilit abyss
thanks for the opinions! i will respec for cure + DPS
warped nest
Your character will do more DPS, even if they are healer
twilit abyss
oh in that case why not cure + tank?
warped nest
Cuz your character will eventually be better at "tanking" compared to your chocobo... Even if they aren't tanks
candid raptor
Because tank is bad
candid raptor
Barely keeps enmity and does less damage than dps
twilit abyss
i never knew that
simple shore
The main benefit of the tank tree is actually its passives that buff damage. The actual tank abilities are pretty meh.
Outside of BLU its pretty not useful to have your choco using tank stuff.
dapper shadow
How about those extra tank attac skills
twilit abyss
Currently my chocobo's favourite food is the attack up one, should i swap it over to healing?
dapper shadow
Do they use them on top of atk skills?
simple shore
The problem with them is that Chocobos are....well, dumb
candid raptor
Unless you're planing to go to lvl 20, just stick with healer
warped nest
It genuinely don't really matter that much
simple shore
They use one skill every X seconds (i forget the number)
obsidian patio
probably skill-dependent
thick elm
he dl the standalone launcher but it gives him the same thing. asks for him to put in reg codes and then says the reg codes have already been registered
simple shore
and if you have them in freestance with tank, they'll just...pick tank ability or DPS ability seemingly at random. So you dont want them having the option to use tank abilities.
candid raptor
Just go full heal spec, put the choco in heal stance and be immortal in the open world
simple shore
Like, think of them as having shared cooldowns, esentially.
So if the chocobo uses Choco Drop (first tank ability) it cant immediately next GCD use Choco Slash (first DPS ability)
and its not particularly intelligent at picking
@thick elm well, have him try to log into mog station. However, i'm gonna hazard a guess that he's logging into the wrong account if he actually played before. That said, if you get a screenshot like Wynne asked for it'll answer pretty much everything.
stray holly
I found my old ps4 account. Can someone please link me to the pc client download?
thick elm
he can't get to the mogstation cause it's locked out for suspsicious activity. can only log into the SE acc, not mogstation
stray holly
is it the site that is called finalfantasyxiv dot com /playersdownload?
obsidian patio
yes
plain python
does security token worth it? I think it gives you one more slot for Return?
warped nest
It gives you a free teleport location
simple shore
I mean its free, and it makes your account more secure, and a free teleport.
So you're getting benefits for nothing.
warped nest
Not exactly the same as setting a spot as your home to use Return on
obsidian patio
you just have to enter the OTP every time you log in
zinc orbitBOT
stray holly
Question! If I bought final fantasy in the ps4 store would there somewhere be a code? I do not remember if I bought it and as for now the playstation store seems down to me. How can I verify what I had was a pruchase or a trial? When I try to log in to the game on the launcher it ask me for a registration code. This would only happen if I had a trial right?
slate crow
Question. Does archer get a title at lvl 80?
plain python
@simple shore it is free? I thought you gotta purchase it separably? 😮
thick elm
he's stuck on a loop now trying to get old acc information,. he clicks "Forgot password", it tells him to check his email for instructions on changing his password. email asks him to log into his account to change his password
stray holly
Back when it was Realm Reborn on PS4
simple shore
@plain python the app-based token (software token) is free. You can put it on your phone.
plain python
I see 😛
obsidian patio
@stray holly digital purchase for PS4 uses no code, they're automatically applied to your account
stray holly
@obsidian patio Alrighty let me double check here then. I believe I must have conencted the ps4 to a squar enix account then correct?
slate crow
That and how do I get the Fae-Touched title?
simple shore
@slate crow all jobs get titles based on completion of their capstone quests from each expansion, including ShB
obsidian patio
you need to buy the game again for PC
stoic sand
Okay.
stray holly
Lmfao idk why I thought it was cross buy
simple shore
@slate crow you'd be better served going here for these questions -
https://ffxivcollect.com/titles
glad comet
ionic elbow
Is there a site that helps wit collectables location and time ?
simple shore
@ionic elbow https://www.ffxivclock.com/#/
polar hound
Garlandbell
stoic sand
I am trying to play this game again. It says on steam, I have 238 hours. I tried to hit play through steam, and I have to put in registration codes. Every code I have on steam, it won't let me use. It says they're already in use.
I tried to get into the original account, but it was suspended for...suspicious activity? Okay, whatever.
white ether
What’s the quest list till stormblood
simple shore
....are we hearing the same story twice in a row?
white ether
Like the inbwteen hevansward and stormblood
stoic sand
I tried to do the same thing on MogStation
slate crow
@simple shore The titles aren’t clickable
simple shore
@slate crow click the achievement column, not the title column.
thick elm
just invited him to disc to ask peeps about a solution rather than parroting between disc and him
tidal yarrow
how did he deal 1m+ damage with.. third eye?
stoic sand
How can I log in. If I'm trying to get help logging in. You fucking. Morons. (:
tidal yarrow
nice ad btw
obsidian patio
@glad comet I think the full patch note reading, yes
obsidian patio
it's from the story
stoic sand
So now, I'm in a situation where not only can I not log in, but I can't put my registration codes in, I can't change my password, and I can't fix my account.
wise forum
I stopped playing this game after running away from the giant boulder in Shadowbringers. I didn't really like it up till there. Does Shadowbringers get better later?
obsidian patio
yes
you're right at the point of the story where it unfolds a lot of stuff
@glad comet I think the official FFXIV twitch stream? and whatever their youtube link is
white ether
Is there a quest list for the inbetween hevansward and stormblood
simple shore
@slate crow idk about the mobile site, but on desktop it looks like this. If you click an achievement, it will bring up how to get it (mostly) -
noble gyro
sorry guys for digging at this. for free trial gets so play class like samurai too?
obsidian patio
wise forum
Do you guys have any advice on making real life friends through this game? I'm so lonely
noble gyro
since its only lvl 50
white ether
Thanks mate
simple shore
@noble gyro No
obsidian patio
no, F2P can't play samurai since it's stormblood content
same with Red Mage, Dancer, and Gunbreaker.
green grail
@tidal yarrow that's not third eye, that's a cure icon which fflogs uses for weird things, you can translate the log somewhere at the top, or just link it
simple shore
Free Trial will have access to Dark Knight, Machinist, and Astrologian - but none of the other expansion jobs.
noble gyro
ah so they get upto lv 60. but content to HW
plain python
do you need to raid/do difficult dungeons to fully access the game's lore?
simple shore
.....kind of, yeah
obsidian patio
ehh
simple shore
There's important stuff in some of them
obsidian patio
Savage raids/extreme trials don't have much lore in them or about them
tidal yarrow
@tidal yarrow that's not third eye, that's a cure icon which fflogs uses for weird things, you can translate the log somewhere at the top, or just link it
if I could guess I believe it's higanbana dot damage
simple shore
It depends on what you're qualifying as "difficult dungeons" though.
obsidian patio
I wouldn't consider any 4-man dungeon to be difficult, as they're all balanced around casual players.
green grail
it's autos
tidal yarrow
autoattacks do that much?!
green grail
ye
simple shore
Like, the current ShB trial storyline. Its not what i'd call "easy" depending on what type of player you are, but its also certainly quite story relevant.
green grail
yeah the one with an uptime% is the dot, the bottom one is the on-hit damage
simple shore
From my perspective its easy. From someone elses, maybe not.
warped nest
Even Hard mode dungeon aren't exactly hard
obsidian patio
Normal mode trial/raids are balanced around casual players too
warped nest
They are basically remixes
tidal yarrow
I find the first shb dungeon the harder shb base story content
all the rest is relatively easy from my experience
strong sphinx
gloomy mortar
What is the Toy Chest in the Inn? Where do you get Toys
obsidian patio
still another hour and 20-ish minutes left before maintenance starts.
the toy chest holds minigames earned from past seasonal events
and like one or two from the hildibrand questline
jade quartz
Major patch update
noble gyro
what exactly are they updating?
jade quartz
Lotta new content etc.
noble gyro
oh
obsidian patio
part of it is to ensure no one does shenanigans with the weekly lockout for a bunch of content and new stuff
jade quartz
but SE just generally does long downtimes for this stuff compared to other companies.
noble gyro
icic
jade quartz
It's just how it is
gloomy mortar
FC is constantly gardening Voidrake. What is it used for? Someone said you can’t make a lot of money growing Thervanian Onions, but those sell constantly at 175k
jade quartz
we've all gotten used to it
tidal yarrow
the patch will be downloadable from when?
low sun
how do patch days generally go in ff14? rather problem-less? if so i'd actually prefer the long downtime, if its the same poopshow as other mmos... oh well 😄
alpine shadow
i have yet seen any extra downtime when it comes to a scheduled maintenance
jade quartz
Usually problem-free
sometimes another like 2-hour maintenance within the next two weeks if there's something urgent
obsidian patio
@gloomy mortar you can exchange them for various items
leaden ginkgo
where can I level my healer at level 14?
low sun
sounds good
simple shore
I cant remember a single time that FF14 has had a WoW-level shitshow on a release or patch
jade quartz
Downtime going longer than scheduled is incredibly rare. Coming up 30 mins to an hour early, on the other hand, is fairly common.
gloomy mortar
How many people are in a server before it is full?
obsidian patio
might be the floss silk, blue fox hide, or rush grass that may be selling for a lot.
no concrete numbers given
noble gyro
say if I grind 4 to 5 hours a day on main quest only to lvl up. and like 10 hours on weekends
u think I can hit 60 in 2 weeks?
tidal yarrow
the patch will be downloadable from when?
anybody knows? since my net is really bad it'd be nice to know with some time
obsidian patio
definitely
noble gyro
playing as white mage
obsidian patio
Usually becomes downloadable anywhere from halfway to two-thirds through the maintenance.
tidal yarrow
gotcha
low sun
is there a command to check time played on my character?
green grail
/ptime
simple pine
healer might actually be fastest, as kill quests are usually only a few monsters, and the main time loss is waiting for long dungeon queues (which are required to proceed with MSQ) and healer queue is almost instant
low sun
ty
ionic elbow
So I went to collectable node , does it appear only one time of collecting it ?
low sun
@noble gyro are you on a preferred server? i just checked, i have 30 hours played (just started last week) and I am lvl58 on scholar/summoner, lvl34 on gladiator, and thats without skipping any cutscenes/texts. so getting lvl60 with what you mentioned should be extremely doable
simple pine
but at what MSQ level are you xenonic?
low sun
35
obsidian patio
@ionic elbow assuming it was an unspoiled node, those respawn every 30-ish minutes or so.
gloomy mortar
Is there a way to see how many visitors your FC room/Apartment/Personal House got?
green grail
no
low sun
thats why i started playing glad/paladin, so the msq xp doesnt go to waste on the high lvl characters
naive kraken
@ionic elbow if it's an unspoiled, legendary, or ephemeral node, they spawn at specific times for one go. then you wait until it's time again.
ionic elbow
Okay so once I farm the spot , I will have to wait until specfic time for it to respawn
obsidian patio
yep
ionic elbow
Hmmm got it
naive kraken
yup. HW and up tend to be the same time AM and PM of in-game, ARR tends to be once every 24 in-game hours
ionic elbow
Yeah I went and gathered a node in HW
gritty oracle
Can i change client language mid-duty?
ionic elbow
But damn the exp was less than the leves lol
gusty belfry
So is the 24 hour downtime normal for patches?
gritty oracle
timed nodes are about the items
jade quartz
24h is normal yes
gusty belfry
Damn
naive kraken
any major patch which is 5.X, not 5.XY, 24 hours
tidal yarrow
how often is there any new 5.x patch?
naive kraken
tuesday morning an hour from now, you should be able to log in and play after DL
tidal yarrow
since I started playing this game, this is the first for me
green grail
usually 3-4 months, but this one's been like 6 cause of covid
obsidian patio
normally it's every 3.5 months
slate crow
How do I do a Lali-Ho?
low sun
is there a go-to place for a target dummy if i dont have a house/fc house? as in, easily reachable (to be as lazy as possible)
low sun
oh dang i dont even know
gusty belfry
So server is down in like 1 hour?
low sun
just wanna practice rotation actually
obsidian patio
@slate crow /laliho
It's unlocked from a small series of sidequests in Tomra.
tidal yarrow
if you just wanna try your abilities there's many dummies on so many areas. someone here will be able to tell you some
obsidian patio
The dummies in Summerford Farm are the closest ones to an aetheryte.
low sun
thx
noble gyro
@noble gyro are you on a preferred server? i just checked, i have 30 hours played (just started last week) and I am lvl58 on scholar/summoner, lvl34 on gladiator, and thats without skipping any cutscenes/texts. so getting lvl60 with what you mentioned should be extremely doable
@low sun I'm on moogle chaos server. first time playing this game. got to 35 over the weekend. do u see benefits in continuing or best I just remake account and get all jobs to 60 first then buy game?
gloomy mortar
You can also visit other people’s FC and they usually have target dummies outside that you can use
vivid wolf
Is there a faster way to navigate azys lla? just died on gamma quadrant and now i need to run all the way back
warped nest
Not until you finish the specific chunk of msq to unlock flying there (don't need to search for aether current in this map btw)
vivid wolf
F
warped nest
So... Don't die
vivid wolf
fall damage while still in combat is such a pain in the ass
low sun
@noble gyro sorry i dont really know, i'm a total noob myself, just wanted to share my level experience :X
gloomy mortar
@low sun go to any residential area and visit people’s gardens they usually have dummies outside for anyone to use
willow breach
guys i m wondering. when is the server going into maintenance?
obsidian patio
an hour
obsidian patio
24 hours
noble gyro
@noble gyro sorry i dont really know, i'm a total noob myself, just wanted to share my level experience :X
@low sun thanks for the info. how many hours do u rack up per day roughly so I have an idea
willow breach
oof thats a long maintenance.
solemn delta
Not really when you consider how long everyone has waited for the patch lol.
warped nest
Cuz it is a major patch
willow breach
oh ok. i m still pretty new and jusst about to finish the a realm reborn story ahaha
solemn delta
We don't know all the tests they need to do plus covid is still running rampant in most places (unlikely affecting it but a possibility)
Well your in luck. Because they are making post ARR better, streamlining it
willow breach
oh wait, what does it mean
warped nest
Between ARR base story and the Heavensward stoey
solemn delta
Was about 100 quests after you finish ARR it's content that was for people when the cap was 50
low sun
@noble gyro around 5 hours
warped nest
The general complaint is the pacing of these MSQ are very bad
willow breach
oh
warped nest
And some of them are straight up just busy work
So it is getting cleaned up
It is not changing the story, just make the pacing better
willow breach
so i m guessing some of the quests are getting removed?
solemn delta
And some quests are totally useless and non story related so yes
willow breach
ah cool
obsidian patio
13% total MSQ from 2.0 to 2.55 being trimmed out entirely, with a larger portion being reworked/slimmed down for easier progression.
obsidian patio
Refulgent, it doesn't work on Pitch Perfect
willow breach
oh ok i see. thanks for the info!
warped nest
!action Barrage
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obsidian patio
same thing for Apex Arrow
ionic hazel
tidal yarrow
I don't have access to lvl80 savage dummy on eulmore if I haven't unlocked savage?
noble gyro
@noble gyro around 5 hours
@low sun thanks very much. I guess I have to power thru it and do stuff freebies dint have
oak ice
Correct, the savage dummies are added to your stone sea sky when you unlock them
rich urchin
anyone know off the top of their head when 5.3 maint starts?
green grail
you shouldn't need savage to unlock the dummy though, it also has msq fights, extremes, normal mode raids @tidal yarrow
oak ice
42 minutes
rich urchin
wew
warped nest
!maint
zinc orbitBOT
Tick, Tock, Kupo!
rich urchin
alrght thanks
sharp tapir
ai, is there reason this happens more often then not
internet works extremely well
with any other game
slate arrow
random node failure or just flat out brief disconnectopn
since the server locations don't change the nodes needed to access the servers generally don't change
Basically: shit happens
slate arrow
It's *probably not SE's fault
sharp tapir
some big brain stuff
slate arrow
there's a lot of companies managing the internet anyways
sharp tapir
thanks for the explanation
but yeah, it happens quite often but 3 times in like 2 mins this time
was the reason why I came here to ask
slate arrow
definitely sounds like a bad failure somewhere on the way to california
sharp tapir
thanks
uneven moth
I remember that YoshiP referred a live patch note reading with 5.3, any additional news on it ? Like when ?
slate arrow
check the lodestone, but I don't think one was announced?
left moth
NTT was famous for being a dumpster fire node wise so might be their connection with your isp
sharp tapir
is NTT Nippon?
zinc orbitBOT
slate arrow
nice
sharp tapir
now when someone asks, I say NTT Node sucks, pls commend me
slate crow
Do all beast tribes take 5 days to do each rank?
obsidian patio
only the ARR tribes do
the expansion ones take longer as they don't give you more daily quests to do except on the day you rank up.
slate crow
Lame
charred rune
!maint is no longer usable in this channel.
Use #kupo-bot-spam instead please!
lucid solar
guys will the complete patch notes come after maint starts?
slate crow
I don’t mind doing the quests so much that I hate how long it takes just for more story.
slate arrow
yes
obsidian patio
usually shortly after, yes
lucid solar
oki
obsidian patio
generally an hour or two at most
neat stratus
Can someone advice me in picking data center? Do EU that only speak english actually play on EU? Or do they go NA? Dont know much about the community/population but is the EU flooded with Spanish/Russian/German/French? Cuz I dont speak any of those languages xD
slate arrow
@neat stratus pick the DC closest to you
Almost all of them have a not insignificant english population anyways
lucid solar
so in like 1.5 hrs ok
obsidian patio
basically just don't pick Shiva or Moogle if you want mostly english speakers for your server as an EU player
neat stratus
@slate arrow How can I see which is closest?
slate arrow
While you can get away with playing on NA servers in the EU (see: Shenpai) you'll have to work around your latency
obsidian patio
!faq datacenterip
zinc orbitBOT
junior valley
question regarding zodiac weapon. If I upgraded the gae bolg all the way to Longinus Zeta, will I still be able to glamour lances into Gae Bolg?
obsidian patio
NA datacenters (Aether/Primal/Crystal) are in California.
EU datacenters (Chaos/Light) are in Germany.
JP datacenters (Mana/Gaia/Elemental) are in Tokyo Japan
yes
once you get a weapon to Zeta you can buy replicas of the previous steps when you bring the zeta to Drake
junior valley
ooh gotcha
rich urchin
as i frantically try to finish my weekly deliveries before the servers go down, any ideas on what i should spend extra white crafting scrips on so i dont overcap?
junior valley
thanks!
rich urchin
anything i can buy to be prepared for new demand after the patch hits
obsidian patio
i'd say grade 8 materia since those may jump in price as people will use them to meld the new set of crafting/gathering gear
neat stratus
@obsidian patio So yeah. Ping in California is 200+. Not playable. Have to go Chaos or Light. So is there a way to see which ones have a bigger English or even Scandinavian community?
obsidian patio
both are pretty even in english speakers
low sun
i started on Lich - Light last week and so far i've seen 95% english in chat, be it city or party
green grail
in 24h15m
left moth
Im projecting patch server goes live in 16 hours
obsidian patio
main patch maintenances rarely ever end early to avoid shenanigans with the weekly lockout and new content
vivid wolf
how come dancer has such low dps compared to bard?
arent they kind of similar?
as in support dps
left moth
Especially in cases where something timing limited is up (shirogane savage)
green grail
no, dancer increases the partner's damage by a lot
a lot lot
bard is only group "utility" but it's not nearly as much of an increase
obsidian patio
Dancer gives their partner (basically permanent) 5% damage buff, along with Devilment
left moth
The dps balance with ranged is based on contribution to the dps of others. Dancer has lower personal dps outside bursty dances because of dance partner effect
obsidian patio
!action devilment
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obsidian patio
20 seconds of boosted crit rate and DH rate for both you and your partner
vivid wolf
so bard would be better in solo content, compared to dancer?
obsidian patio
yes, but solo content is balanced to be doable with all jobs.
green grail
i mean there's not really any solo content in this game
msq is msq tuned to be cleared by any job very easily
left moth
Bard is slow to dps outside barrage because of dependence on dot damage and little self sustain than second wind
warped nest
Unless you want to talk about stuff like soloing stuff that wasn't designed to be soloed
Like doing EX trials or savage raid unsynced
Then some jobs do have advantages
left moth
Or content thats deliberately hard to solo (potd/hoh)
green grail
yeah but that's doable on all jobs mostly due to pomander luck
gusty star
Is there an posibility to preload the patch or does it become avaible to download, before the maintance is finished?
green grail
it'll be available for preload sometime closer to the end of maint
raw dagger
So I know full ARR and HW will be free starting tomorrow in the free trial, I have a question though. I haven't completed ARR yet but I'm close to it and I've bought a subscription before. Can I play ARR and HW for free even if I've bought a subscription before?
raw dagger
Oh ok, thanks!
warped nest
If you have an active subscription and own only the starter Edition, you will get HW
copper spindle
Hello ! we have to wait 24h ???
warped nest
Yes, it is a maintenance
heavy wasp
Literally my only day off this week and it's maint. My life is hilarious
left moth
Gardens should stop need for maintnance because would be a dick move to nuke them all outside player control (maintnance)
(Yes its down for 24 hours)
crystal shoal
i dont feel so good
white ether
So is hevansward msq getting a revamp?
zinc orbitBOT
leaden ginkgo
what time does 5.3 drop
green grail
20 mins ago tomorrow
obsidian patio
HW MSQ is not being touch as far as we know
crystal shoal
i want my ffxiv back
obsidian patio
proven bay
Anyone know how you contact FCs outside of the game?
proven bay
What if you don't know the FC discord
agile laurel
Am I reading reworked sleeve draw right? ||So it used to be draw 3 cards, now it's draw 1 card with luck protection? Or is it draw 3 with luck protection cause SD grants 3 'charges'||
proven bay
I guess I should instead ask, does anyone have The Syndicate FCs discord?
green grail
yeah seems so, one card but guaranteed to get a seal that you don't have @agile laurel
agile laurel
Yeah I was confused because i couldn't figure whether they were describing the buff you get 3 of, or the actual ability
cause if so that sounds... quite eh
faint flare
Well it means you can basically minor arcana everything after you play sleeve draw
And seals are guaranteed in opener
halcyon rune
So long as the pull timer is 30 seconds. You'd need to Draw, wait for cd, then pull. You need to be in combat for the seal to apply.
leaden ginkgo
should I max out my first class (paladin) before starting a diff class? Like will it be hard to go through msq if I swap to like samurai once I hit 50??
halcyon rune
But yeah, new SD is a guaranteed full power Divination. Tho to be frank, I like current SD's "you get a card! You get a card! Everyone gets a card!" mood.
Tho I find that taking my time to search for the right seals often makes Draw sit on cd for a while.
Staying PLD will guarantee you short queue times, but people may expect you to know the bosses.
If you have the patience to wait or have friend to q up with, switch to Sam.
proven bay
Leveling 2 classes at once is very difficult. I did with Paladin and Ninja. It required me to do a few dungeons inbetween @leaden ginkgo
Wait, that wasn't even what you asked
zinc orbitBOT
proven bay
Basically what Ross said. DPS have really long queues for dungeons. Tanks have almost instant queues, but more responsibility is put on you because you're expected to know the dungeon you're running
narrow fulcrum
Is now a good time to download the game if I want to play the free trial or should i wait when the patch for the 60 cap launches?
proven bay
Doesn't really matter. Servers are down now anyway
halcyon rune
Yeah, you can't.
narrow fulcrum
Ah that sucks, thanks anyways!
proven bay
Correct me if I'm wrong, but this means you can run Eden over and over and over without getting restricted on loot right?
obsidian patio
yes
proven bay
This applies to savage too I assume
faint flare
No
proven bay
Oh 
faint flare
They explicitly mention savage whenever they talk about it
proven bay
I must've missed that. Thanks though
faint flare
Savage typically doesn't get unlocked until X.X8, which is like a few weeks prior to the next Major patch
When weapon upgrades get added to nuts and 24mans
neat stratus
So I just bought the Complete Edition of FFXIV. Im wondering if I need to activate it immediately or if it's best to way till I reach the end of heavensward? Im starting for the first time tomorrow when patch drops.
obsidian patio
if you don't mind the social restrictions of the free trial, then you can wait until the end of HW patch story
faint flare
Well if you hold off you can play without paying for a long while
obsidian patio
!faq triallimits
zinc orbitBOT
faint flare
With some restrictions listed above
spice crow
.0
proven bay
I mean, it's technically not live still
faint flare
^
proven bay
You can change it once the server comes up
obsidian patio
i'll forget it at some point
faint flare
Not entirely weong
obsidian patio
and it's not like people can play right now
proven bay
Yeah, fair
obsidian patio
no one saw anything >.<
faint flare
The people will remember this
proven bay
Wait, this looks so good 
faint flare
Healer dungeon gear
leaden ginkgo
Wow, the buffs to engineering manuals are huge
proven bay
I assume you can put it on anything as glam though, since it's not restricted to a specific job @faint flare
faint flare
Its healer gear (or should be)
So glam for healers
Or whatever role actually gets it
proven bay
I thought only job specific gear was limited to glam. Now I'm not interested anymore
coral stirrup
Im having this error.
Error Code: i2501
Registration error codes
Error i2501: If you receive this error whilst registering your key or creating an account, it's likely that your key is for a different region than your account, the key is for a different region that you are currently physically located in or you've tried to create an account for a different region that you are currently physically located in.
Im a singaporean player and chose the wrong reigon how do I change this without errors?
proven bay
You need to buy the correct key and get a refund
obsidian patio
disable your VPN if you have one active.
other common issues that make it pop are having pop-up blockers and sometimes running scripts like chrome extensions
proven bay
If he bought the key from the wrong portal then that wouldn't matter
coral stirrup
Ok cool cool. I dont have any VPNs im using the launcher itself and I used my code already can I still re-fund?
obsidian patio
if you can see the code then it might be too late to refund it :\
proven bay
Wait, were you able to activate the code or is it region locked?
proven bay
Because I think they refund codes that are region locked
I'm not 100% on that though
Ask SE support
coral stirrup
I dont think they are online now, but Ill send them a message. Thank you for your help lads
leaden ginkgo
that healer glam makes me think of elidibus but the big boss version of him
neat stratus
Is the maintenance lasting till patch drop tomorrow?
agile laurel
Yes.
neat stratus
daym
agile laurel
It's full 24hrs
neat stratus
thats long lol
agile laurel
rather that than a dozen more little downtimes to fix x and y later ¯_(ツ)_/¯
vivid wolf
is 5.3 out yet?
median locust
12-24h is common for major patches and they haven't done server maintenance in forever so it makes sense that it's long lol
No
Tomorrow... 6am EST I think, I need to double check
vivid wolf
is there an estimate on when the servers go down?
median locust
They are down
median locust
Nope
neat stratus
What is it that they are doing in 5.3 that will make the "new player experience" so much better? Reading patch notes isnt really giving me much as I havent played the game before and dont know whats really going on xD
median locust
Removing around 13% of quests, mostly shortening the ones that made you go back and forth for no reason
and moving unimportant quests to regular sidequests
vivid wolf
just in arr or also in hw?
median locust
just ARR
vivid wolf
F
vivid wolf
really not looking forward to the hw quest epilogue
median locust
at times
agile laurel
ARR is, speaking relatively, An Disaster
vivid wolf
i just want to get to SB
median locust
It's literally half as long as ARR's
you don't have anything to fear
plus it's actually good
Not on patch release but on an off patch yeah
Like 5.35 I think
a month and a half later
Nope
agile laurel
i believe that was specifying job quests? am I misremembering?
vivid wolf
why do some descriptions read something along the lines of 'uses x% of max mana'
isnt mana 10k no matter what?
like assize restores 5% of max mana
which is just 500 mana
left moth
Yeah. Mostly legacy item descriptions
vivid wolf
mmkay thought so
left moth
There's attacks that damage mp but nothing alters max mp that im aware of
zinc orbitBOT
stray holly
how long is the maintance? I logged in a few hours ago to create a character and then it said I couldnt play due to maintance.
left moth
24 hours
green grail
yes
marble drift
gloomy locust
24 hours is a pretty long time xD
faint flare
Its standard for major patches
stable herald
Are they planning to do a 24 hr stream or something? Anyone know what's happening on the ffxiv twitch?
stable herald
I dont see #translations-and-liveletters active so Im not sure if it is a rerun or smthng
faint flare
In JP
faint flare
Yeah. Its a JP thing
Yoshi reads patch notes outs and general hangs around and talks stuff
Usually nothing important
stable herald
But not 24 hours right?
faint flare
Usually not the full 24 hours
stable herald
Whew
drifting blaze
I have a fantasia on an alt. Is there any way to transfer it to another character on the same server ?
vivid wolf
dont think so
drifting blaze
Thats bad.... i have a free fantasia from sub on my first char but i dont use him any more.
gritty oracle
Is there any way to practice mechanics without other people? Sort of like SSS but for mechs?
Also can anyone ID the pants this character is wearing?
junior yacht
practice mechanics for what?
vast crown
it should be the pants from that mog station outfit with giant wings, mheg deaca or something
zinc orbitBOT
green grail
there's no way to practice mechanics outside of the fight, no
lyric warren
why is the servers down for so long?
green grail
patch 5.3 maintenance @lyric warren
lament citrus
We don't know how much they will remove
patent cave
What's the reason for making relic weapon replicas level 1?
silk wedge
Ok
lament citrus
They only mentioned the changed quests
green grail
cause it's glamour @patent cave
patent cave
But I was using the replicas before? And obviously my Job would have been St the appropriate level anyway to unlock it in the first place
green grail
if it had normal stats it wouldn't be a replica it'd just be another relic which could mess with the quest chain for it
peak hearth
Hey I read with the new patch that you can actually play up to 60. Does that mean you have to buy the STARTERS edition from steam let's say or FREE TRIAL is good enough? Please answer only if you are 100% sure because I see different people saying different staff. Thank you.!
past frigate
speaking about anima ,the 1st part of soul without life FATE farming ,whats the current known updated drop rate of the crystal
patent cave
Right so you think it's basically just a tool tip change to make it more obvious that's it's the replica
lament citrus
25% drop rate in my experience (tho idk real number)
patent cave
Seems kind of pointless
green grail
free trial goes up to 60, starter edition unlocks all the social features @peak hearth
lament citrus
@peak hearth I don't understand ur question
past frigate
ooo ok ty
lament citrus
Free trial is basically the game without most of social stuff in game
Basically solo version of the game
peak hearth
@green grail Thank you very much for your answer. As I bought the collectors edition 3 days ago, I have the time limit now with the sub. On wow when it expires you can play the "limited" content of free trials even without sub. Can you do the same in FFXIV? Like log in after Sub ends and grind some other "jobs" ?
lament citrus
Tho idk if they will add hw to the starter edition due to the free trial revamp
@peak hearth no
green grail
no, if you bought the game then you need sub to play from that point on
lament citrus
^
patent cave
I get why some glamour items are level 1, so that they can be used at whatever level your job is but obviously that's irrelevant for the relics
peak hearth
@green grail Then I think it is worth it for me to start a new account without the collectors edition as I won't get near the end game 60-80 staff any time soon...
lament citrus
Most of glam they rnt quest related items so that's y they r level 1 @patent cave
peak hearth
I will sure miss my Fat Chocobo mount and the amazing outfit of my fighting chocobo but meh
lament citrus
I think WoW got limited version when u have sub ended cuz u can trade ingame stuff for sub iirc
I could be mistaken
peak hearth
Not really as you can actually purchase / use the TOKENS from in game menu as well before loading in
When I had no sub active on WoW (I always have a bag of Tokens there), I had to decline the message prompting me to use a token. Because all I wanted to do is create a char and chill on some early areas maybe do some dungeons as well
lament citrus
@patent cave it won't make any sense for relic to be level one due to 1st it's not just glam weapon 2nd it's limited to quest related to certain job
@peak hearth oh
peak hearth
That's why I think at this stage of the game, and me being an altholic I can grind all jobs to 60 for free? 100% worth dumping my 4 days all expansions collectors edition I bought for 30 bucks and start over
I was just wondering if I could somehow keep my 4 days old account char as well
lament citrus
I hope merging accounts was a thing
peak hearth
Thank you everyone for your help. Looks like I got my answer and although not satisfied with it, what can I do 😦
Closing I have to say that I feel punished for purchasing the collectors edition with that game, and no game should never make you feel punished for a purchase because they add benefits in the next patch...
leaden bear
Hi, can somebody help me with Squeenix support? I’m going to lose my mind
So I’m an idiot, and don’t remember my security questions, or maybe I made them with typos? When I go to the support center, find the lost Q&A section, and type in the required explanation to my problem;We were not able to locate the support information related to your issue. I literally don’t know what it wants me to say. I’ve been using a bunch of key phrases and different summaries, no dice. I can’t proceed to contact help because of this question thing not letting me
All this just to change my password, which may be compromised
def getting a security token, but, Q&A prevents me from doing that too. Can't find this issue anywhere else
open coral
The Q&A section is more of an FAQ than a complete knowledge base.
For the problem you're having, you'd be best off opening a ticket with customer support directly since it's not going to be a "frequently" asked question.
CS can also use other identification factors to help you reset your password.
lone hawk
hey i heard that now I can play for free until the end of first expansion, is that true?
leaden bear
Q&A as in my secret password questions. Sorry to be confusing. I cannot get past this thing to get help
dim smelt
If you buy expansion you get a 1 month free sub .
lone hawk
great, so no more subscriptions 😄
open coral
After the patch goes live tomorrow, free trials will be able to play through the 3.56(?) patch of Heavensward with a new level cap of 60.
dim smelt
Ouch your subscription will be ending them
open coral
If you already have a sub, you can't get more free time
dim smelt
It's just for first 30 days and newer players
lone hawk
so... because I paid for the game I can't play for free as f2p players?
open coral
Correct
lone hawk
is this madness?
dim smelt
It's because you bought the game 3 months back
lone hawk
I bought game like 2 years ago
dim smelt
You already have full game and not just the trial
open coral
Free trial is a one-off. It's a trial. Once you buy the game, you can't go back to the trial version.
wispy parcel
Thats usually how sub based MMOs work
lone hawk
but
wispy parcel
Once you buy the sub you cant go back to being F2P
open coral
No
lone hawk
so stupid...
leaden bear
And no matter what I type in, it wants me to redo the entire process. Like, dude, what do you want from me. Am I just stupid or is the website broken?
dim smelt
Sorry but no . You will have to buy the trial
open coral
The Free Trial version can play for free to the end of HW.
strange coral
It's still a trial. It still has a bunch of restrictions, not just the level cap. It's not totally F2P in the way you're thinking.
lone hawk
I feel like I'm being punished fo the fact that I have paid for the game :/
dim smelt
It has tons of restrictions
stiff osprey
how is samurai? how does the class feel to play?
lone hawk
but you can play the story right?
stiff osprey
i'm more interested in if it feels simple, complicated, fast, etc.
those kinds of general descriptors
dim smelt
@lone hawk yeah but it's like buying a bathtub and wanting to use the tap
lone hawk
I don't really care about anything else then getting through the story in all honesty
open coral
Free trial players can, after the patch goes live, play through the end of the first expansion. They can't play past that.
dim smelt
F2p only gets the tap you have the bathtub so enjoy it
wintry bane
First time going through a patch while at end game. How does one get Eulmoran Certificate of Novelty in order to upgrade your Neo-Ishgardian gear?
lone hawk
I feel like I got cheated
open coral
There's two entire expansions that F2P doesn't have access to
wispy parcel
@stiff osprey Sam is one of the easiest DPS classes to learn
lone hawk
Can I revert from the paying customer to the trial?
leaden bear
If someone can go to that specific category, Secret Q&A Lost, and just type something in until it works, please tell me. I'm getting kinda miffed
open coral
No
wispy parcel
Nope
open coral
You can't go back to trial once you own the game
lone hawk
even if I don't want my money back?
open coral
That's not how it works
lone hawk
I just want to play the game for free :/
wispy parcel
Again thats usually how sub based MMOs work
dim smelt
Sam is easy to learn but very hard to master . Your only utility is your dps so you have to perform well lots of pressure
strange coral
You can start a new account, but lose everything you have now.
lone hawk
yeah it doesnt make sense to start nmew acc I'm already at 2.3
dim smelt
Yeah
stiff osprey
@dim smelt what distinctions make a good samurai? like do they have a set rotation, or are they fluid and context-based?
high mobility vs. stationary?
strange coral
Well, not lose. But you won't have access to your existing stuff unless you switch back to sub account.
tidal yarrow
how u get ilv505 weapon?
open coral
You do realize there are two entire expansions of main story content you can't reach unless you have a paid sub and all expansions registered, right?
stiff osprey
i tend to like very active playstyles
dim smelt
@stiff osprey yes a compact rotation that's easy to use but harder to time correctly. It's also a melee class .
lone hawk
That's quite sad that they didn't think about people like me... and just fucked them 100%
open coral
F2P players can't do Stormblood or Shadowbringers content.
leaden bear
rip
lone hawk
but well what can I do
wintry bane
@tidal yarrow you have to do Eden Savage 8 (Shiva), and hope you get the weapon after beating her. Otherwise, you get a book once a week and it can eventually be traded in for the weapon once you have enough books.
lone hawk
Need to deal with it and idiocity of these devs
wintry bane
Also, you can only get the book or weapon once a week.
stiff osprey
@lone hawk make a new account, perhaps?
open coral
@lone hawk As a paid player, you own the full game. You can sub for as many months as it takes to finish the game, then unsub until you want to play again.
lone hawk
there is no point anymore
dim smelt
@stiff osprey samurai is very active but keep in mind that should you go as a samurai you WILL need to perform well in later dungeons . Samurai has no other utility past it's dps . If you can't perform well then the dps drops a lot
wispy parcel
And yea Chiryuu F2P players cant play the story past HW anyway
tidal yarrow
@dim smelt what distinctions make a good samurai? like do they have a set rotation, or are they fluid and context-based?
being able to perform rotations efficiently enough to use cooldowns like kaeshi setsugekka and stuff as soon as they get up I'd say
wispy parcel
So you arent even getting the full story
open coral
You can literally opt to cancel your sub as soon as you finish the MSQ, and not resub until the next expansion.
wispy parcel
Ur getting less than half
dim smelt
being able to perform rotations efficiently enough to use cooldowns like kaeshi setsugekka and stuff as soon as they get up I'd say
@tidal yarrow sounds about right
lone hawk
@open coral true, but I can't play for free as the non-paying cusutomers, so it's like saying to the paying customer "fuck off, you are shit, we don't care about you"
dim smelt
@stiff osprey not many no . But quite a few
open coral
@lone hawk You're getting access to literally double the content that free players have access to as a paid player though.
stiff osprey
which dps requires the most of that? monk or ninja?
dim smelt
If you like to weave ogcd a lot can I suggest the dragoon @stiff osprey
wispy parcel
Monk is a lot of effort for pretty much the same DPS as a Dragoon
stiff osprey
the effort doesn't bother me
open coral
Heavensward is not the end of the MSQ. It keeps going after that. But free players can't go into subsequent expansion content at all.
dim smelt
Yeah but it has more weaving than ninjas . If you want a hard class to master then go ninja
lone hawk
@open coral I agree, there are restrictions, but I don't really care about them until I get through the story, and getting through the story takes massive amount of time, at least for me, so I will be paying like 3-4 months of sub just because I paid for the game
tidal yarrow
@tidal yarrow you have to do Eden Savage 8 (Shiva), and hope you get the weapon after beating her. Otherwise, you get a book once a week and it can eventually be traded in for the weapon once you have enough books.
tysm! how many books are needed?
lone hawk
I would gladly buy game AFTER i got through the story, if I could 😦
stiff osprey
i have a background in rts games, gunz online, and having played characters like invoker in mobas
open coral
@lone hawk That's what I'm trying to explain to you. There is more story that free players can't access.
stiff osprey
so the more complicated the better, generally
lone hawk
yup, but I would prefer to get through the free story and then buy game, so I won't pay for additional 4 months of sub
wispy parcel
Which is 2 expansions behind
dim smelt
@lone hawk don't worry bro . Enjoy the game . The story is going to really pick up for you now . Like really really good story now heavensward is among the best video game expansions for me
lone hawk
@dim smelt yup, I heard that multiple times
dim smelt
@stiff osprey ninja then. Huge bursts lots of weaving rotating . It's a fast class that does very good damage good utility and is an absolute joy to play
tidal yarrow
I'd also recommend ninja
dim smelt
Yeah
leaden ginkgo
man im stuck between being a black mage, bard, paladin, or white mage
open coral
@lone hawk Keep in mind that the expansion content is much much shorter than ARR. You'll get through HW in half the time that it takes to get all the way through 2.0-2.55
tidal yarrow
sam is still tho higher dps in the game in terms of.. dps
leaden ginkgo
Any help with making my decision?
dim smelt
@leaden ginkgo I'm a tank main so if you need info about those I'd be happy to help
stiff osprey
i'm not as concerned about raw dps as much as enjoying the class
leaden ginkgo
I know that video in pinned
dim smelt
@tidal yarrow yeah but ninja brings much more than dps to a party
wispy parcel
Black Mage if played properly has the highest DPS in the game
stiff osprey
sounds like ninja is what i'll probably try next
lone hawk
@open coral maybe, I will see, I hope you are right... stilll I feel bad about this whole mess
tidal yarrow
also true. and ye sora I meant melee dps
wispy parcel
Oh okay
leaden ginkgo
I do think at the end though I really am very interested in ninja, seems like a very unique character who is very fun though if that helps
wispy parcel
Then yea NIN if you want to have party utility
leaden ginkgo
but also I love being magic types of characters in game
dim smelt
Ninja has insane burst also
leaden ginkgo
and I can't play him at the start so
dim smelt
It's very preferred in raids
open coral
@leaden ginkgo If you want to be magic dps, then go BLM
lone hawk
Ain't ninja magic?
wispy parcel
No
queen raft
Can anybody help me level grind
stiff osprey
just curious, what's wrong with monks?
open coral
BRD is physical ranged, PLD is tank, WHM is healer.
wispy parcel
Its melee
dim smelt
If you plan on commiting to a class then I suggest ninja if it's for a few days then I suggest dragoon @stiff osprey
open coral
@stiff osprey Positionals
leaden ginkgo
I was also somewhat interested in dragoon too but idk,
dim smelt
@stiff osprey nothing is per day wrong with them they just take tons more work to do about the same damage as classes that takes tons less work
open coral
MNK is just super annoying to play, particularly at lower levels, because of positional requirements.
stiff osprey
i assume positionals just require to you be in certain positions relative to the enemy?
leaden ginkgo
Ill do black mage for now and later try the other classes
stiff osprey
like behind them
open coral
Yeah
lone hawk
hmm I wonder, will they give something like free login campaign as they usually do?
stiff osprey
busy is better for me