simple shore
Well, if memory serves, he's on a timer anyway.
#questions-and-help
halcyon glen
Yes. As I tried to explain. Expansion jobs are not meant to be first jobs.
arctic holly
Nah Ill be able to continue for maybe another month or two
median locust
It's super grindy and only good if it's your 2nd job and you don't have the main story to level yourself
remote lintel
i mean if you play as dancer you'll be wasting the base game and the first expansion's worth of exp
but do what you want
median locust
Levelling guides you'll see online will assume it's not your first class
Because the best source of exp is the main story
period
arctic holly
Op
median locust
but you only do it on one class
remote lintel
like 90% of level grinding requires things unlocked via the story anyway
median locust
and literally everything past level 50 is locked by the main story. And most lv50 and down content is as well
arctic holly
Well I think I'm high enough level to not worry about time n stuff for a while so I'ma just enjoy the story now I've been grinding potd for days so might as well
remote lintel
arctic holly
Time to take a break from da grinding
agile laurel
you poor unfortunate soul
median locust
not even a break, just don't grind on your first job, do the story 
arctic holly
Lol
arctic holly
I know play bard I'm finna gonna do dat
violet forge
which one is us east server?
median locust
None
halcyon glen
Any NA server works
median locust
All of the NA servers are in Sacramento California
median locust
all 3
Aether and Primal if you wanna raid
Crystal if you wanna RP
but if you have friends playing already, just pick their server
arctic holly
I just realized I haven't really actually technically played the game yet to me this game has litterely only been potd for the past week or so
violet forge
i have no friends 😦
quasi widget
aether is slightly more west coast
agile laurel
that's what we've been saying lol
halcyon glen
The most populous single world is either Balmung of Crystal or Gilgamesh on Aether within NA if memory serves
quasi widget
but all the servers are on the west coast, just talking about the pop
violet forge
which is
median locust
it's not, servers are all in the same building in california lol
agile laurel
no join mine
median locust
I'd recommend joining a preferred server for the 100% exp bonus
agile laurel
but yeah aether and primal are pretty sameish, crystal has more of a RP over raiding focus
halcyon glen
Come to Swagatanas
agile laurel
if you don't intend to raid, they're basically on par
violet forge
which one is preferred? how do i if it is
median locust
come 2 wamya
violet forge
none of em are stars
median locust
remote lintel
if you want to join a preferred world i'd suggest waiting til 11th
median locust
This page lists all servers and whether it's preferred or not
wintry chasm
yeah when you choose a server in character creation preferred are starred but you can also just check that link ^
violet forge
famfrit is preferred in primal but i cannot make a new character
remote lintel
if you want to join a preferred world i'd suggest waiting til 11th
faint flare
Because its temporarily locked due to aloy of people on
median locust
You need to wait until less people are online, works better in the middle of the night or early morning
agile laurel
if the online population of the world is currently high, new character making is restricted
violet forge
i see
median locust
Or if the server is marked as congested, which none of the servers are right now
arctic holly
Yeah my friends where getting into the game and I went to sleep cause the servers where closed and I woke up a few hours later and they where still congested
halcyon glen
I have a hunch Famfrit is gonna be congested as of next week but like
left moth
arctic holly
Question are they going to make more room/ make more servers for the patch coming out?
halcyon glen
nope
arctic holly
Yikes
spring oasis
youd hope so huh? 
halcyon glen
Servers are largely fine
arctic holly
It's already bad as is
wintry chasm
That's something they'd do closer to an expansion really
halcyon glen
^
violet forge
my friend is on famfrit but he hasnt played in a long time
median locust
There's enough room for everyone... so I don't get why you're asking the question lol
spring oasis
pff I always have a Q in jenova
violet forge
so i guess behemoth it is
halcyon glen
oh everyone always has a queue on every server
remote lintel
halcyon glen
that's just how it works
spring oasis
is it for full server? or is it actually just to limit how fast people get in
halcyon glen
I believe the latter
spare plinth
i have the starter edition, and since 5.3, free trial and starter get heavensward, if i log in, will the heavensward logo play instead of arr?
wintry chasm
you would be able to change it to hw title though
wintry chasm
You can change those with 5.3
halcyon glen
Aye, temporarily
remote lintel
:0
halcyon glen
Reverts on next login
wintry chasm
(sucks)
wintry chasm
but...maybe in the future they'll make it perm
but still you can change it on the 11th
halcyon glen
so you can see the cooler login screens if you missed them like i did
namely HW and SB
halcyon glen
yes, all current owners of HW or the Starter Edition will see the ARR logo next patch
per the notes
median locust
There's a xivlauncher addon that changes it permanently but how safe the launcher actually is is questionable, lol
as are all third party addons
median locust
Just means they were a server during the 1.0 version of the game
halcyon glen
As it says in the info bubble somewhere, that server has existed since 1.0
median locust
no actual difference otherwise
spare plinth
i think legacy refers to ffxiv 1.0, the old version
halcyon glen
Can I target a companion with a macro?
spare plinth
i wonder if there's still legacy players in the game now?
heard they have a special questline when arr came out
remote lintel
the dialogue in some parts in ARR is slightly changed
spare plinth
in arr, the warrior of lights that is mentioned is the players from legacy?
agile laurel
Yep
spare plinth
and the calamity is the end of ffxiv 1.0
agile laurel
Yep.
spare plinth
square enix must've decided to have a little fun to celebrate arr
agile laurel
i mean ARR was a last-ditch to save the game from dying
remote lintel
they nuked all their players at the end of 1.0
agile laurel
1.0 was remarkably trash
sharp light
Is it ok to play through the story on free account until the end of hw expansion and buy full game after or will it gimp me heavily? I see a 50% discount right now on PC so it's a dilemma for me, to buy or wait and play free until i know for sure to i want to play longer...
spare plinth
iirc, 1.0 was supposed to be like xi in terms of layout i guess?
remote lintel
@sharp light you can buy the game and not input the code
just hold onto it until you want to upgrade
sharp light
You mean when i order a Complete Edition now, i will get a code to activate it, but can do so at later time? (i thought that applies only to subscription, not the game itself) @remote lintel
polar hound
lol.
halcyon glen
We can only tell you how the game works
remote lintel
i know what youre talking about
hollow coral
@sharp light I was thinking about doing that myself and completing the expanded free trial coming on August 11th first.
polar hound
go melee, turn names down to abbrevs etc but there is no 'making people disappear'
scenic tusk
Hi! Can I ask if E1-E4 is now easy enough to queue in duty finder or should I pre-make a group?
median locust
I'm on PC and they don't disappear so I think it's a problem with how good your PC is
and if you're on PS4, tough luck
E1-4 normal can just be queued for
agile laurel
i mean, all of eden normal can be queued
that's their nature
only savage needs to be DF'd
scenic tusk
Thank you very much!
lyric valve
i keep getting this message ingame once every couple of hours, can anyone tell me what it means?
remote lintel
try saving your client settings in the character login screen again?
loud patio
Should I be doing blue quests post arr but before heavensward?
median locust
If you want
trail prairie
is there any infographic for playing WHM? i haven't played in a long time and i'm getting back into my WHM70 to get it to 80
median locust
I think most of those will unlock dungeons, raids, beast tribes, etc
violet forge
what does birthday and deity do?
trail prairie
just want to make sure i'm not overlooking something simple like cycling through defensive actions as tank
median locust
^ Very important quest series to understand Shadowbringers when you get there. It'll be mandatory come Tuesday anyway.
loud patio
ok thank you
remote lintel
@trail prairie put divine benison (shield) and regen on tank, prioritize oGCD heals before GCD heals, make sure your dot is up and spam damage
use assize for quick aoe heals
mild ermine
trail prairie
ah okay, i didn't think about priotrizing oGCD heals
i haven't done any instances above 50 yet
polar hound
@violet forge nothing. they're lore/RP flavor
twilit arch
regen's not that useful 70+ tbh
violet forge
ah
trail prairie
ty
twilit arch
just weave benison whenever its up, and use ogcds. lily heal if you absolutely have to gcd
agile laurel
also re: divine benison i'd advise that saving it for TBs is a bad habit
remote lintel
also don't forget to use thin air and presence of mind
agile laurel
just throw it on CD unless you have a really good reason not to
trail prairie
i'll try to remember
polar hound
god yeah please use divine beni almost on cd lol
jagged pebble
does the launcher download slow or is it my internet?
remote lintel
probably your internet
agile laurel
also 👏 spam 👏 holy
even if you're from the 'healers don't dps' camp, straight 7 seconds of no damage (considering diminishing returns) is godlike
polar hound
+they take nice damage and well..faster they die, less dmg they do 😛
jagged pebble
i usually dl at 12-15mbs but for this game its jus at 5
agile laurel
mitigation through killing all the mobs is best mitigation
polar hound
not sure Shycocut, there's a couple posts about slow download speed for it but i dont think i had that issue
trail prairie
spamming holy isn't an issue, it's gauging the 8y radius for me lol
remote lintel
just go right into the middle of the crowd and spam it
median locust
why would it not be okay?
median locust
Yeah of course don't stand in AoEs, but most of the time it'll be fine
Trash mobs don't tend to cleave
without at least a telegraph
remote lintel
and stun interrupts their aoes
zinc orbitBOT
lime sphinx
so my friend bought the fat cat mount, 4 days and nothing, payment was correctly done and all that stuff, website isn't super friendly to find where to put a ticket
median locust
is the mailbox full
lime sphinx
it wasnt, weird i just asked and it just popped in 4 days lmao
median locust
just had to complain lol
lime sphinx
apparently xD
agile laurel
plus the benefit of spamming holy, if you're quick or brave
if there were any aoes, you just stunned them and now there aren't
and frankly if there still are you're not likely to die from one
sick osprey
i saw someone sleep on a pillow in ul'dah the other day, any1 got an idea what emote that could have been ? dont have a SS unfortunately
faint flare
Probably using /playdead
median locust
Probably either of the pillow minions with /playdead emote
nimble holly
waht time in PST does the server reset happen?
remote lintel
3 pm(?)
median locust
Plush Cushion or Zabuton Cushion are what they're called
faint flare
!daily
zinc orbitBOT
Tick, Tock, Kupo!
sick osprey
is there any way to get /playdead other than mog station ?
median locust
No
remote lintel
oh server reset
faint flare
Nope
silent elm
Hey! I was wondering if the new free trail for the game will release alongside Heavensward on Aug 11th?
median locust
your question confuses me a little but the new free trial will include heavensward yes
silent elm
is the level cap already increased to 60?
faint flare
No
little swift
It will be on the 11th
silent elm
Oh okay! Thanks
tulip skiff
I’m so confused on how to make this
faint flare
You put those logosgrams in the astral tray
quasi widget
put in any of the combinations at the bottom in the tray
faint flare
Any combination
tulip skiff
When it says + something
faint flare
You need both
quasi widget
you put all of those in the same tray
tulip skiff
Like wowsdom plus protect
faint flare
In the astral tray
tulip skiff
So I put all that stuff in the astral tray?
faint flare
You put Wisdom + protect in the Astral tray
Then finish
Then it combines
And gives you the result
tulip skiff
So let’s say i am making that I start with wisdom of guardian then extract
polar hound
that's it.
tulip skiff
Then I go plate and protect then extract
faint flare
You'll get 2 wisdom of the guardians
tulip skiff
XD
faint flare
Each one of those combinations will result in 1 Wisdom of the Guardian action
faint flare
You just use what you have access to
faint flare
They're options should you not have the required logos
tulip skiff
I bought every logo it cost me so much😭
polar hound
ouch yeah no, view them as potential combinations. any are valid
There used to be a nice sheet for those...lemme dig maybe i can find it
tulip skiff
Once i discovered them it don’t matter if I destroy them right away?
faint flare
That site has them all already xav
tulip skiff
Yeah I got the one I’m using from there
polar hound
Righton
ionic elbow
So i'm thinking of focusing on specfic crafters at this moment : Armorer , Blacksmith , Carpenter , Goldsmith , Leatherwork and Weaver . what do you guys think ?
Like i'm planning to level Alchemist and Culinarian later
polar hound
It is ALWAYS advisable to level all at the same time
violet forge
can i change my starting class?
polar hound
so you share gear as you level, etc
tulip skiff
I can spam create everything I don’t need to move and record them somewhere?
polar hound
also other crafters make things for other crafters
median locust
You can level every single class on a single character and switch between them freely out of combat
No downside
faint flare
They're automatically recorded
violet forge
when can i do that?
median locust
To first change class you have to beat the level 10 class quest for your starting one
violet forge
ah
median locust
after that you can pick up new classes from their respective guilds
ionic elbow
Culinarian makes only food I think ? like no help for other crafters ?
median locust
The first ones have quests called "So you want to be a X"
violet forge
oh theres profession in the game too?
median locust
"So you want to be a Gladiator" etc
violet forge
i kinda messed up, i was gonna make a scholar but i started as a conjurer
so im white mage i guess
polar hound
uhhh tbh i'm not 100% sure on CUL, the old role-action thing made them really necessary but you may be able to get away with not that one now?
median locust
after you get to Limsa Lominsa in the main story (around level 15), you'll be able to go to Limsa Lominsa and pick up Arcanist
ionic elbow
And fisher ?
median locust
Arcanist is the base class before Scholar which you unlock after clearing the level 30 class quest for Arcanist
wintry chasm
fisher is in Limsa too yes
polar hound
you can skip fisher tbh for now anyways..casually level it
limpid lynx
where do you go to get better jewelry? I'm level 50 and still have like a level 10 necklace or something that's tanking my item level
faint flare
Buy them with poetics
polar hound
50 is Mor Dhona provided MSQ is caught up
faint flare
In mor dhona
limpid lynx
I've searched the main hub merchant areas all over
limpid lynx
right, yeah, mor dhona. Is that a place I unlock in the post-ARR-ish MSQ?
faint flare
No
polar hound
Yeah, just maybe hangon to gear per level tier for your CUL
faint flare
After Ultimate Weapon
median locust
All crafters feed into each other as well as need mats from Botanist and Miner
faint flare
You get access to it
polar hound
so you're not double spending on that
faint flare
The shop and currency
median locust
Only ones you can delay are Fisher and Culinarian
polar hound
yeah ok thats what i thought ty for confirming
ionic elbow
@polar hound Yeah i'm store all my old gear for when I level up fisher and culinarian . But can I use the chest in the inn to store gear ?
polar hound
Retainers
you COULD use the glamour chest if you want but that'll cost you prisms too
elfin wagon
is there any particular reason astros sometimes give me cards in trials nd stuff even though im a tank
ionic elbow
Oh no I don't want want to turn them into glamour
polar hound
Retainers act as a self storage/bank/marketboard seller
faint flare
Mor dhona
median locust
@ionic elbow You can turn them back into actual gear afterwards no problem
agile laurel
@elfin wagon you're no less a viable option than the dps. plus there might be 2 range dps
ionic elbow
Okay so retainer then
polar hound
Yeah retainer for now until you start hoarding too many materials haha
ionic elbow
@median locust Does it cost a lot to return them ?
elfin wagon
ah i see
median locust
It's just the glamour prism to put them inside the dresser in the first place
unkempt holly
Did they just kill collectables in 5.3?
ionic elbow
Because someone told me once I turn a gear into glamor I can't ever use it back
wintry chasm
Yeah their own recipes like custom deliveries
faint flare
You see that later down the notes
median locust
@ionic elbow They're wrong
polar hound
it USED to be that way
grave totem
Hello! I am new to melding, what does it mean when it says item level too low to maximize the potential of this materia?
I am trying to meld savage aim viii to my ilvl500 ring.
wintry chasm
You USED to not be able to get gear out of the dresser yeah
polar hound
but they fixed the glamour dresser.
wintry chasm
but that changed a good long while ago
faint flare
!faq melding
zinc orbitBOT
faint flare
@grave totem read the second half
ionic elbow
Okaaaay that is sooo useful
ionic elbow
Because I have old class gear that I want to upgrade it so I can dye it
hollow coral
I'm on a free trial, is the message in the pinned topic here from Kir still releveant? "1. If you started on a new server (not preferred), don't be on the trial when you hit level 30, or you lose out on 1 mil gil bonus.
2. Use a recruiter code before you subscribe, find someone who will give you a reward for it (there's a reddit for it)"
polar hound
I think you can get your class gear back at salvagers? i could be wrong
faint flare
Yes its still relevant
Trial limitations aren't changing outside the content you can access
halcyon glen
but there's no new servers
wintry chasm
but there are no new worlds right now
halcyon glen
so like
faint flare
But also that so dont worry
hollow coral
Ahh! Good to know
I can just enjoy the bonus exp
Goblin has a preferred status I guess.
polar hound
Those may change here with 5.3 but the benefits will last for 90 days from your creation if it loses preferred
ionic elbow
Okay so now Alchemist is the lowest class ( i think 15 ) should I only level it until it reach the other crafters ?
They are at 51
polar hound
Probably give it a little more attention than the others yea..definitely do the GC turnins daily
ionic elbow
For alchemist or all ?
polar hound
^^ make sure they're HQ
faint flare
Especially if they're starres
Starred turn ins give 2x rewards
HQ gives 2x rewards
And they stack
For 4x
ionic elbow
I completly igonred Gc and focused only on Restoration
faint flare
Aka THATS ALOT OF DAMAGE XP
You'll get like
4 levels
For 1 item
Per crafter Daily
radiant brook
how long is ff going to be down until the patch goes live?
faint flare
24 hour maintenance
grim pivot
wait when will it go down anyway?
grim pivot
ah ok
frozen karma
is there an emote of that anime thing where you push up your glasses with your middle finger?
static beacon
hey! new player here, i am a little confused by the buff of "the road to 70" do i lose it if i level any class/job to 70? or is it independent for each one (i am on free trial but will probably buy the subscription)
frozen karma
yeah I want the one that briardien does
faint flare
Its independent
median locust
You keep it until the server loses its preferred status, even if you reach 70 before then
If the server does lose it, then it lasts 90 days after character creation
twilit arch
iirc its male elezen who uses briardien's version of /spectacles
static beacon
@median locust 😮 what is preferred status?
static beacon
i see, thanks!
hard dragon
Silly question, but can Europeans enter the current screenshot competition?
boreal aurora
is there a way to check how much gil i have if im not subscribed
tulip skiff
I thought the elemental armor glowedT_T how I make it glow?
faint flare
Upgrade it in Hydasos
twilit arch
elemental+1 glows
faint flare
+1 does
hard dragon
think you only need +1
twilit arch
dont need to do +2 unless you're doing BA
agile laurel
my bad
tulip skiff
T_T
boreal aurora
?
craggy pivot
noob questions here, i at char creation thing. And google about classes. It seems i dont see classes google gave me, but i assume monk is advanced class for pugilist? and dragoon for lancer?
faint flare
Yes
twilit arch
can log into lodestone and check your character's currency tab @boreal aurora
agile laurel
@craggy pivot at level 30, base character-screen classes (and rogue) specialise into advanced classes aka Jobs. So yes, you're correct on what you assume
craggy pivot
so marauder really so bad? i like how it looks :)
agile laurel
Jobs are simply extensions of classes that opens up the rest of the ability unlock
Marauder becomes warrior. It's fine
faint flare
No
strange coral
@boreal aurora You can see your gil on your lodestone character profile when logged in. Don't know for sure that it works while not subbed though.
faint flare
No job is bad
boreal aurora
but what with the gil on retainers
agile laurel
Using the 'base class' past a level where you should have unlocked the Job specialisation is something you don't do, ever
craggy pivot
@agile laurel but lancer would be better choice right?
agile laurel
i mean
define better
dragoon is a dps, warrior is a tank
different roles, assuming you're familiar with MMO conventions
craggy pivot
oh warrior is a tank. i wanna smash :D
faint flare
!faq anoteonthemeta
zinc orbitBOT
craggy pivot
thanks for tips guys
agile laurel
warrior is a kinda 'shrug off the damage' vibe of tank
craggy pivot
gonna lance
agile laurel
but as a demonstration, see how the first few abilities are what 'Lancer' has, but when you've specialised into dragoon at level 30, you can begin to unlock the rest of the abilities
craggy pivot
yeah i understand, but still i need to get used 1st
agile laurel
that's fair
tulip skiff
Pyros is final version of eureka weapon?
proven sparrow
what're the better rp servers for NA?
static beacon
how bad is it to just focus on 1 class/job? i see a lot of way to multiclass and i am not sure
twilit arch
two most well known servers for RP are mateus and balmung
proven sparrow
ty
lavish vortex
is there a way to see what im selling on the MB?
vivid thorn
to what extent are heal checks a thing in current content? (Answer burst first and sustained second)
faint flare
Heal checks are only really a thing in higher end content
tulip skiff
The mnemework station not important?
faint flare
And its more burst if anything as damage is scripted out the ass
No. You can ignore that and move on
zinc orbitBOT
vivid thorn
I'm asking this because I played another game where heal checks were a thing even in normal raiding, or in hard mode dungeons
faint flare
Nope, only really in higher end
vivid thorn
so DPS checks happen in normal content as well?
faint flare
No
lavish vortex
is there a way to see what im selling on the MB?
faint flare
Not checks that matter anyway
Any content outside of extreme and savage dont have any real checks...more "are you actually here and pressing your buttons? Yes? Good you clear"
leaden ginkgo
Hello, is it ok to ask questions on this channel? I started a few weeks ago but every time I ask something on reddit people get very mad. If I did something wrong can you point me in the right direction? Thank you so much!!!!!
gritty oracle
This is a beginner friendly zone!
leaden ginkgo
Oh Ok, Thank you so much
upper prism
hello, i needed to ask something aswell
im in shb and i can "solo" story dungeons
do i receive less xp?
per kill
wintry chasm
No but less loot will show up to compensate since you're guaranteed anything that drops
quick notch
by using Trust ? it's the same but longer
upper prism
hmm i see
leaden ginkgo
So I have a warrior and its great when pulling in dungeons. Between Overpower, Tomahawk and Mythril tempest. I have no issuie with aggro. So fast forward, I am playing Gunbreaker and am having a harder time holding aggro. It does not feel as quick to snatch up aggro as my warrior.
upper prism
still worth to queue up?
faint flare
You have demon slice and demon slaughter
leaden ginkgo
I do
faint flare
As your exact copies
leaden ginkgo
and rotate them to get the proc
wintry chasm
Do you use the tank stance?
leaden ginkgo
I do
faint flare
Of overpower and mythrial
wintry chasm
You sure?
leaden ginkgo
Haha yes
upper prism
i feel the same, that aggro doesnt hold as long as it usually did
wintry chasm
...gear?
leaden ginkgo
It feels like it takes longer to get aggro
Neo Ish warrior, augmented scaevan on GNB
faint flare
Royal guard = defiance, Lightning shot= tomahawk, demon slice + slaughter = Overpower and mythrial
wintry chasm
Okay but what dungeons did you struggle with as GNB?
faint flare
They're basically identical
leaden ginkgo
I know, it is suppose to be the same
But when I go to pull a group
I have a hard time to get aggro then with warrior
I have no idea why
Tank stances are on
Using all three of my aggro moves in rotation
leaden ginkgo
That might be it
faint flare
You have aurora as well
leaden ginkgo
I am not sure, was just wondering if I was doing something wrong
faint flare
Which generates a fair amount of aggro
leaden ginkgo
I am still learning but I do use my cooldowns. I have a lot to learn still but I can hold my own in raids and stuff so far with warrior. I am just noticing a bit of lag with GNB
But the smooth dps makes up for it most of the time with GNB
But I do notice I have to work a lot harder for the aggro
compared to warrior bam overpower bam
tidal island
the main bit of lag on GNB will probably be around your Gnashing Fang combo for the individual Continuation procs
I got a good connection with rather small jitter (10-15ms)
and it can happen to me too
tidal island
its a bit more of an issue because afaik you cant queue no-proc continuation (feel free to prove me wrong tho)
candid raptor
Proc?
leaden ginkgo
Proc is the freebie
candid raptor
Continuation just automatically gets activated when you use the proper skills though?
craggy pivot
i change font size for chat and there no effect. restart of game needed?
candid raptor
I guess it 'procs' but it's 100%
tidal island
Continuation changes into another skill depending which cartridge combo skill you used prior
don't think procs are limited to sub-100% successrate
the main thing is, as much as I experienced, you cannot queue continuation skills unless you can visibly see them
so there is a good chance that using them on the 2nd weaving slot is probably not a bad idea
that again depends on connection / jitter
opal bough
what's the difference between normal and high quality item
faint flare
Higher quality items have more stats on it if it's gear
If its a normal item, it increases the starting quality for crafting receipes you use it im
wintry chasm
Otherwise higher quality items is required for certain quests and stuff and make it easier to make other high quality items
opal bough
Thanks. Any way to get hq ingredients when farming monsters?
faint flare
Its rng
gritty oracle
Does the chance of desynthing rare materials increase as I gain levels above the item's desynth level? Say, I got a fish that's desynth level 300. Will I have a higher chance with desynth skill 400 than desynth skill 301? Or is it static once I outlevel the item's desynth level?
faint flare
When killing a monster, its rng whether the materials you get are normal or high quality
ionic elbow
Should I turn Gc gear HQ even if they don't have star ?
ionic elbow
Alright
unreal herald
Just to confirm here, collectible synthesis is no more?
faint flare
Yes
unreal herald
Yay
faint flare
And collectibles become their own receipe
leaden ginkgo
What is the best way as a WHM to tell the tank to stop being an idiot without actually calling him an idiot. Ran D Dark last night and the tank would stand in every mob aoe, tried telling him and he told me to fuck off, then get angry when I pulled him because he was going to die from the boss hit
unreal herald
Ah...
faint flare
No more accidently to forget to turn it on
unreal herald
Eh it's something
gritty oracle
@leaden ginkgo Tell them to dodge aoes, then kick them if they ignore you
wise acorn
Genuinely curious
strange coral
Vote kick
wise acorn
How do I raise my ilvl past 480? Do I have to put on my big boy pants and take on the Savage Eden stuff
faint flare
Allegory gear and savage gear
unreal herald
wait a week.
faint flare
Next patch you'll have 24man, upgraded neo ishgardian to get
wintry chasm
@unreal herald yeah it seems it'll work like Ishgard restoration or custom deliveries
wise acorn
As of now its Eden stuff though right?
wintry chasm
And allegory tomestones
wise acorn
Muchos gracias
unreal herald
@wintry chasm hopefully without the insane RNG of Idhgard expert stuff haha
wintry chasm
Also technically the relic weapon for 485
faint flare
Collectibles will remain the same
Just their own receipe
Same difficulty requirements and all
unreal herald
Going over these patch notes reminds me just how much content I've missed / haven't have the chance to do
river oak
My friend made a character on Eu (light) Odin.
I am on Eu (chaos) Moogle, is there a way i can make a character on Light because i seem to be locked to chaos now?
mental garnet
is there a way to reorder your squadron members in the list?
river oak
okay thank you!
faint flare
Then make a character
lavish vortex
hi, im selling items and it says its selling in ishgard market, does that mean that they only appear on ishgard market boards?
sly willow
Hello again o/ A little question for all Black mages here. How do you personaly switch from astral fire to umbral ice during a fight? me and my mate have been discussing a little
I'm using transpose to switch from my last F4 cast to umbral ice and cast B4 then. My mate asked me if it wouldn't be better to go from F4 to B3 without transpose. Can i get an explanation on what method is better and why?
lavish vortex
thx!!
faint flare
Because Blizzard 3 does damage
And gives you 3 stacks of ice
To regen MP quicker
Same with Fire 3
It does damage and gives yoy full stacks
You never use transpose for swapping stacks once you get those
Provided you have something to hit
Tranpose is only used to swap stances when you have nothing to hit
Otherwise use Bliz/fire /
The cast for bliz/fire 3 is also reduced
When you have 3 stacks of the other elements
Allowing you to weave 1 off global
Which is very handy
dire cipher
anyone have the fashion report guide for this week?
strange coral
Do !fr in #kupo-bot-spam
sly willow
okay thanks a lot! guess my mate is a little quicker in understanding certian mechanics off casting than i am xD
leaden ginkgo
Blizz 3, enoch, thund 3, blizz 4, fire 3, fire 4, fire 4,, fire 4, fire 1, fire 4 repeat again 3 times until big proc and start over
I think that is the BLM rotation
It is unlimited mp
Never have to worry about it
leaden ginkgo
Yeah other stuff can be thrown in
But that should be the bones
you can literally do that forever
agile laurel
Unrelated question - does the orchestral version of Answers appear anywhere ingame?
There's one with rock instrumentation and another orchestral ver with a notably different vocalist
and the latter seems to be what I mostly turn up on YT
leaden ginkgo
Hmm I am not sure, I think there are different versions of each songs. I just started collecting them once I got my room at the FC house and a music box
Will ask guild members tonight and get back to you
agile laurel
In hindsight I think one's the live performance ver
and the rock version's the studio ver?
the studio version has a somewhat more gospel sounding vocalist
leaden ginkgo
Well like Heavensward and some of the end game ARR stuff are the same type of beat. Like the giant hand mount and then the dragon mount
Are two versions of the same song right?
One is more piano focused
wintry chasm
no Holy?
limpid lantern
Are the poetics used for more atuff than just ironworks ?
wintry chasm
I think answers instrumental might play in some coil fights but that's it?
leaden ginkgo
50/60/70 gear
wintry chasm
Used for the pretty much best gear for ^ yeah
agile laurel
Yeah it's not like it's an instrumental version, one's got the rock instrumentation and one hasn't
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWdeMqELN-U This's the one I'm trying to place
cause this isn't the same as the ingame
limpid lantern
Alright, i was thinking of taking on a second class(monk, currently doing pld wich is almost 60) can i save the poetics for the pld 60 gear and then use the gloam set from the msq for the monk ?
leaden ginkgo
I cried so hard when that song came on during the credits of ARR
limpid lantern
Or would that be way worse
agile laurel
yeah but this isn't quite the same version @leaden ginkgo
faint meadow
The PLD would be getting the best 60 gear available
leaden ginkgo
Spend poetics
faint meadow
So for PLD no
leaden ginkgo
Always, they are easy to farm
faint meadow
quest gear for monk would be standard
So if you still wanna main PLD then yea
go for using poetic gear on them
limpid lantern
Yeah but because gloam is also 50, just like ironworks and only 10 ilevels unders ironworks
wintry chasm
Well you can upgrade ironworks to ilvl 130
limpid lantern
When leveling the monk for lvl 50-60 content would that 10ilvl difference be very noticeable ?
faint meadow
I wouldn't think so
leaden ginkgo
50/60/70 poetics can all be augmented really easy
wintry chasm
It would be noticeable in 5X content
faint meadow
Especially since Heavensward wwould eventually trivialize both
wintry chasm
It'd mean you'd have to not swap out gear for another like, 2 levels maybe more depending how far you stretch it out
Just saves a lot of inventory and time
leaden ginkgo
70 scaevan was better than anything on the MB for my warrior until 80 Neo-Ish. I am sure there are better 71-79 gear but i could not find it
leaden ginkgo
Run one alliance raid and one MSQ roulette and you will have full poetics pretty much
agile laurel
you can get by to 80 on augmented scaevan
wintry chasm
Scaevan gear unupgraded gets outclassed at level 73
agile laurel
but it's not the best gear available
limpid lantern
Im not raiding yet though xD
halcyon glen
Augmented scaeven is outclassed at 75
leaden ginkgo
What gear are you finding that is better at 75>
I looked
Could not find anything
limpid lantern
But theres a max ?
agile laurel
anything from qitana ravel
wintry chasm
HW crafted gear for one
halcyon glen
Ravel Keeper's X
wintry chasm
Er
limpid lantern
Oh shit yeah now i see, is there a way to upgrade said max ?
leaden ginkgo
Oh is that ShB stuff?
wintry chasm
@limpid lantern wdym?
halcyon glen
since they're aformentioned HQ crafted
brisk iron
Hey I was thinking of getting the ironworks gear, its only marginally better than my current but i like the look, are the currency required rare or do you end up with more than you can spend at some point
halcyon glen
Yes
faint meadow
good, I never liked the look of scavean gear anyways
limpid lantern
@wintry chasm the poetics 2k max
zinc orbitBOT
halcyon glen
@brisk iron more than you can spend
wintry chasm
you can get by to 80 on augmented scaevan
@agile laurel well kinda true if you were to accidentally queue into the 79 dungeon or something you're kinda fucked
agile laurel
@brisk iron common as muck. You get bonus for clearing new dungeons as you do them, especially
halcyon glen
Tanks and Healers cannot get through Gulg with Scaevan
agile laurel
i can do any role in augmented scaevan in mt gulg but that's irrelevant to the point
wintry chasm
@limpid lantern you can't upgrade poetic capacity
halcyon glen
for your healer's sanity
limpid lantern
Ok ty ^^
leaden ginkgo
Anything I say take with a grain of salt. I am only on level 73 MSQ. But I have 3 level 80 characters with Neo-Ish because I could not find any better gear for augmented scaevan between 70-80
brisk iron
i wonder if i can post my shield and if you could tell me how good/bad it is compared?
wintry chasm
@leaden ginkgo you clearly looked at normal quality crafted gear and not the high quality version
brisk iron
wintry chasm
Did you buy the neo Ishgard gear high quality or normal quality btw? @leaden ginkgo
brisk iron
my friend made me that shield
wintry chasm
Ironworks would be better
Block strength and block rate being swapped doesn't really make a difference
limpid lantern
The stats on the ironwork are more fitting :)
wintry chasm
In this case yes
leaden ginkgo
Oh before I can pull up my gear info. I had another question. Why does my dragoon keep auto recommending my tank gear?
faint meadow
how high level is drg
wintry chasm
We can't say why until we see what it's recommending
wintry chasm
It's probably just the wonky tank/DRG recommendations that happen pre 50 but it's nice to check
And it's not something slightly different
oak ice
It says ITEM LEVEL X on all equipment
leaden ginkgo
@wintry chasm it is HQ neo ishgard
wintry chasm
Good
brisk iron
ohhh i see it, ty
wintry chasm
If that was nq you were better off binning it
wintry chasm
Neo Ishgard? Yeah since you have the fending version clearly since you have it for Warrior
Would just need the gunblade
leaden ginkgo
Ok great, so that would make life easier for a few other alts
Also when can I get better gunblades only at 80?
leaden ginkgo
Yeah
leaden ginkgo
Some of the gunblades on the MB are more expensive than the Neo-Ish gunblade
wintry chasm
73 dungeon gear onwards even if it's unupgraded
leaden ginkgo
So would I be better off just waiting? or is it worth upgrading that badly?
halcyon glen
73 dungeon gear is an equivalent exchange with augmented scaevan
But it also looks prettier
leaden ginkgo
So what is a tanks job in PvP?
halcyon glen
Especially the healing set
wintry chasm
Finish the main story, get the job gear weapon at level 80 then do the relic for 485 weapons
Crowd control really @leaden ginkgo
Stuns and whatnot
little swift
a tank in pvp basically goes in to disrupt
if they're not hitting the dps
and trying to kill you
you're doing a decent job
leaden ginkgo
Ah gotcha
wintry chasm
if they're not hitting the dps
Cough not hitting the healer
little swift
yes peeling for your squishies is important
halcyon glen
^ this tbh
lavish vortex
hi!, i really need some gil, but i only just leveled gatherers to lvl 80, so, are there some materials regularly used that i can gather and sell to get some gil? side note, im not trying to get rich here, just a good enough and trusted income of gil with som gathering effort
little swift
but healers have more than enough tools in pvp to stay ok on their own for a bit
leaden ginkgo
I can't help but feel like tanks are like unnecessary in frontlines? Like I only recently started getting into pvp and so I'm not really sure how most classes play in PvP
little swift
you can go for the legendary node stuff
tanks have more cc and provide defense with their adrenaline/personal group cds
twilit arch
tanks in pvp are there to be annoying as fuck
glad elbow
@lavish vortex i would just go to the marketboard and look up the items you've got a bunch of, then sort by demand
twilit arch
and disrupt healers/casters
wintry chasm
Could go for aethersands since I believe they'd be used a fair bit for new crafted gear in 5.3
faint meadow
Tanking inp pvp is pretty great actually
lavish vortex
you can go for the legendary node stuff
@little swift legendary nodes are the ones you unlock with tomestone books?
leaden ginkgo
I can never do damage like my blm but I get to run in and mess up everyone trying to cap
halcyon glen
That’s what I do on dancer
tidal yarrow
I just finished shb! but there's something I didn't understand story wise, can someone explain me real quick in pm?
halcyon glen
Sure!
wintry chasm
Or just ask where with spoiler tags
little swift
you can always ask in #archived-lore-spoilers
agile laurel
or you could hit #archived-lore-spoilers
wintry chasm
It's fine
agile laurel
either way works
lavish vortex
@glad elbow i dont have much lol, just some materia that ill eventually use
halcyon glen
That too
agile laurel
Yeah asking here in spoiler tags works
lavish vortex
@little swift thanks!
wintry chasm
Oh wait yeah #archived-lore-spoilers would be more appropriate
half kraken
Up to what point can I just be doing leves when leveling a doh
hybrid trench
Hello I have a question about the free trial and purshasing the game, can I buy the game and not register it until I use my free trial to the fullest considering there is a sale currently
agile laurel
@half kraken if you don't like firmament, basically 80
little swift
yes you can @hybrid trench
agile laurel
well that's sad cause your two options are update your gear or suffer
hybrid trench
thanks Channye
half kraken
Don't I have another option to just do leves
leaden ginkgo
Squall do you tank?
half kraken
Uh yeah
leaden ginkgo
Because as a healers I would cry if I saw that
half kraken
I buy leves stuff
twilit arch
unless you're buying the turn ins for leves, you're going to need decent gear for those crafts
half kraken
Buying leves is cheaper than buying the gear I need
lavish vortex
@little swift sorry, what are aethersands?
half kraken
Since I'm not omnicrafting
twilit arch
you're almost 70, could just push to it and get yellow scrip gear
half kraken
When playing dow/dom I always have my gear up to date Holy smh lol
twilit arch
which would last you til 80 for the most part
wintry chasm
Items you get from reducing specific items you collect as collectables @lavish vortex
half kraken
Ok I'll get to 70 then
wintry chasm
I'd just Google stuff like agedeep aethersands and whatnot for what item reduces to get it
half kraken
Only issue is I need to farm yellow scrips then
twilit arch
custom deliveries give a lot of yellow scrips
half kraken
And my custom deliveries are done for the week
lavish vortex
thanks a lot!
twilit arch
😐
half kraken
Honestly I'm only doing doh because I heard the dwarves next patch are doh only no DoL at all
So if I get to 70 with 70 gear I'll be happy for now
short sparrow
There are Dwarves? New playable species?
half kraken
Beast tribe
wintry chasm
^
short sparrow
Oh whoops.
novel parcel
Is copied factory the only nier raid right now?
ik we are getting one in the 5.3 patch, but for now its just the one right?
agile laurel
yes
half kraken
Yes
faint flare
Yes
novel parcel
oki doki ty
wintry chasm
Lalafell are closest to dwarves in terms of playability
novel parcel
ruud
half kraken
I can't buy the same level 70 scrip gear from the MB can't I?
Or comparable at least?
wintry chasm
Scrip gear isn't on the market
short sparrow
They're not gruff and fake-Scottish enough.
faint flare
Well you can get a drawfy beard glamour
short sparrow
Ooh interesting.
half kraken
I know level 65 scrip gear is on the market
wintry chasm
You can buy the crafted crafting gear though but it's not as good as scrip gear unless you materia meld it well
half kraken
I guess it's an exception
short sparrow
It would be nice if you could make Lalafel still short but more beefy.
Can you do that?
wintry chasm
No
half kraken
Well I'll need to buy SOME level 70 gear so I can actually do the shb custom deliveries for the scrips in the first place
twilit arch
65 scrip gear is just NQ crafted 65 gear
short sparrow
Ah well. If I redesign my char it's gonna be Au Ra anyway.
wintry chasm
Also I think you have the wrong impression of Dwarves, these aren't western dwarves, these are final fantasy 4 dwarves
short sparrow
Oh yeah, Rally-ho!
twilit arch
tbh you could also just wait until the patch to bother with getting 70 gear for your DoH
you'll have your deliveries then, plus 70 is min lvl required for dwarves
short sparrow
Elapsed time 7:51, average wait 6m. 😦
noble pollen
Help ive been looking for this a while now
twilit arch
you need to talk to the lift npc
wintry chasm
^ not inside
faint flare
Is the lift
wintry chasm
Go to the marketboard and go up the stairs you can see from there
Or just take the big bridge from the main tower near the aetheryte
short sparrow
If I need a group for an MSQ is it any use to ask in Novice or just keep queuing and hoping?
agile laurel
both, can't really say without knowing how quality your novice network is
wintry chasm
^
short sparrow
That seems fair.
agile laurel
generally there's incentive for people to pile in and help you do new dungeons because of the bonus poetics they'll get
but some novice networks are just full of lazy-ass shitposters, to put it mildly
short sparrow
I know my World is Moogle, but I dunno which of the EU DCs I'm on.
wise acorn
but some novice networks are just full of lazy-ass shitposters, to put it mildly
Mildly he says
short sparrow
Q popped. haaha
wise acorn
I come with another question, shockingly; Is there any gil capable of being made as a Miner/Botanist? At least around the 60-80 range?
wise acorn
Or is the gil where the crafter is?
wintry chasm
Having both would be most potential
Gather materials and refine to sell to lazy people is <3
But sure
clear hound
What’s the difference between shadowbringers collators edition vs complete edition?
agile laurel
ingame goodies
wintry chasm
Complete edition is Shadowbringers and the base game. Basically the entire game. Collector's is just Shadowbringers and some in-game stuff
agile laurel
i think specifically it's squall leonhart's gunblade and An Horse
wintry chasm
And a Fran minion Emu
agile laurel
oh yeah
wintry chasm
Shadowbringers just including the expansions and no base game
clear hound
Thx
nova umbra
how do people have this emote already?
simple star
Is there just one vendor for turning in poetics?
wise acorn
Did they ever fix the companion app or is it still 
simple star
They sell sifferent things?
faint flare
One per endgame expansion zone
agile laurel
although they're being standardised in 5.3 so don't hold your breath
faint flare
Yes
agile laurel
Yep, they do
simple star
Hmm ok ty
rich bay
@wise acorn
It is possible they add stuff to the app too in the future.
simple star
Been full on poetics for awhile now and wasnt sure what to do with them as i dont need 70 gear cause im almost lvl 71
twilit arch
you have to manually select the emotes you own, so its just people being silly @nova umbra
agile laurel
if you have a mind to get the HW relic weapon for the glams, you might want to buy unidentified items @simple star
or you can probably buy topsoil to flip it into gil
short sparrow
Standardised so that all the vendors sell all the things?
simple star
So topsoil then...lol ok ty
nova umbra
ah, people just messing around I guess xD
nova umbra
well, interesting is up to you. I liked the entire story ^_^
arctic holly
I got a question in shadow bringers the armor that guy has is it obtainable and also is it a class?
faint flare
Yes, drk
nova umbra
you mean the guy in the trailer?
arctic holly
Yuh
faint flare
Its the dark knight lv80 job gear
nova umbra
I think that's 80 dark knight set?
arctic holly
Wait didn't dark knight come in heavensward?
nova umbra
you get a job-specific armor set from job quests at 50, 60, 70, and 80
faint flare
Yed
arctic holly
Crap I guess I gotta complete the story
Wait question is dark knight a dps-tank or no?
Or just pure tank
wise acorn
Uhh
arctic holly
Cause I like doing damage
wise acorn
Hybrid if youre ot
obsidian patio
All 4 tanks are good at doing damage.
wintry chasm
All tanks are proper tanks
sleek mirage
every job in this game is a dps lmao
arctic holly
I played paladin as my first tank so
wintry chasm
Also yes
obsidian patio
The damage difference between the highest and lowest performing tank jobs is 2-4% depending on what damage percentile you look at.
agile laurel
and that assumes you're playing absolutely shit hot as is
nothing is going to carry you
or conversely, nothing's going to kneecap you
arctic holly
Hmm then I might play dark knight at some point then
agile laurel
edgy boi. that's fair enough
it unlocks relatively early, as soon as you reach Ishgard in the early Heavensward MSQ
spice zinc
Hello everyone, bit of an odd question- is there anywhere in game that is either a cafe or very cafe-like?
When I attempt to google I either get results about a themed cafe in Tokyo or other irl internet cafes, aha
agile laurel
(unrelated to it being the poster child of shadowbringers)
wise acorn
Drk is fun
agile laurel
@spice zinc not as I can recall, I imagine your best bet would be turning to the RP base
wise acorn
Fc houses
arctic holly
Nah just saw the trailer and then was slike holy shit and I've also seen people use it in dungeons but I didn't like the fact it was a tank since I thought that means less damage
sleek mirage
what about the culinarian guild?
agile laurel
because on that front I personally know plenty
obsidian patio
Culinarian guild is more a restaurant
agile laurel
Well it does, technically, but it still does plenty damage @arctic holly
like, 'you'll beat out a less competent/undergeared dps player' plenty
spice zinc
Cool, thanks folks!
arctic holly
Well to bad im both of those
agile laurel
like, you're not (hopefully...) going to do the most dps of your group as a tank
naturally you fall below the dps
same as general MMO convention
but tanks in this game are very damage-dealing focused in their kit
arctic holly
Well as long as I deal enough damage where I can really notice it or somewhere around there then I'll like it
agile laurel
every role and job in the game is requested/required to push the limits, pun not intended, on damage output
like, tanks aren't a 'as long as I have the attention of the mobs and am not dead, this is fine'
arctic holly
Lol