aight
#questions-and-help
worthy roost
ouch
median locust
yes but there aren't any new servers at the moment that benefit from it
queen cove
gotcha
median locust
it's a New server bonus thing
tawdry copper
is there a way to get a week of free playtime somehow?, really want to try ffxiv again
faint flare
No
remote lintel
getting a character to lvl 30 on a preferred server gives you 15 days
twilit arch
outside of them running a login campaign, no
faint flare
Other than waiting for return promotions
remote lintel
oh if you're already out of sub time then yea
median locust
They might have a login campaign in a month or two but yeah, no way until then
tawdry copper
Ah, haven't played in years. I only own the first expansion
short sparrow
I was in a similar position, decided to resub and kinda rediscovered the love for it.
tawdry copper
I won't get too far without buying all the other expansions right?
remote lintel
depends how far you were in HW
zealous cave
where do i put my key code in?
twilit arch
shadowbringers is currently on sale on SE store, if you're not on steam
frozen karma
if i use meikyo on a SAM, what three weaponskills should I use to make max use of the non-combo thing?
remote lintel
@zealous cave should be a "register expansion code" thing in mog station
twilit arch
should be a big red button
twilit arch
yes
twilit arch
oh wait, do you already own it on one platform
twilit arch
ok, is there a section called "additional platforms"?
twilit arch
I assume one of those is add pc license
...wait it registered but where do i download it from
vocal star
Is the maintenance for the next patch going to be 24h?
vocal shell
yes
faint flare
And it shouldnt come up sooner or later. Usually their maintenance times for longer maints are typically on point
vocal shell
@zealous cave https://www.finalfantasyxiv.com/playersdownload/na/
patent cave
So the final grand company rank is supposedly to do 5 different missions
but still havent got a quest, and the promotion guy doesnt say anything
wise acorn
Alright, BTN is at 50
twilit arch
you have to do 5 different dungeons with your squadron thru command missions
wise acorn
Would bumping MIN to 50 be ideal?
simple pine
you can only do 3 beast tribe quests per day per tribe? (ARR)
halcyon glen
per tribe yes
strange coral
3 per tribe, plus additional 3 if you rank up. 12 total across tribes
halcyon glen
on the day you rank up only, might I add
raven sage
In ARR it unlocks more for you to do with each rank up though
You can do however many are available for that tribe up to 12 (I believe cap is 9 total though)
simple pine
i see
leaden ginkgo
Is there any good guides on making gil? I need to make enough to get crafters to 80
vocal shell
Would using the neo ish shield be better since it gives crit?
proven bay
@leaden ginkgo Find materials and gear that is in high demand and craft it
median locust
The Relic gives more Strength and that matters way more than the difference between crit and det
proven bay
Weaver, Blacksmith, and Leatherworker are good crafter classes to level. Since most gear and high demand mats are made with those
nova umbra
is there a way to count how many total quests you have completed?
limber parcel
Hey everyone, going to start playing ffxiv once the new free trial hits on the 11th, i'm wondering what would be a nice easy class to play as a casual? I'm not looking for something with a hectic amount of APM, i don't mind if it's a tank, but i would prefer not to heal
median locust
Red Mage
vocal shell
got it @median locust thx
agile laurel
yeah definitely red mage
oblique forum
new free trial?
median locust
but for a starter class... lancer or maybe archer
limber parcel
I was looking at Bard, Machinist and Dancer, i like the idea of being a pseudo support
twilit arch
@nova umbra unfortunately, not easily. the achievement that counts unique quests stops at like 100. So you'd have to count your completed section of the journal to know exactly. If you're looking for just how many msq you've done so far can use https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/wiki/Main_Scenario_Quests/Historical (keep in mind spoilers!) and search for your current msq
agile laurel
Red mage as a core mechanic has 'after any non-instant cast spell, your next spell is instant', meaning its rotation is simply A (short) followed by B or C (long) to gain and hold balance in its two gauges
and then it has a simple 1-2-3 fencing combo to spend balanced gauge
proven bay
Oh. Just focus on making stuff then @leaden ginkgo You're not going to be able to make money until you hit the higher levels. Aldgoat leather is a good farming material early, but it won't earn you a lot overall. Undyed velveteen cloth is also a good one
agile laurel
there's more to it but that's by far the gist of it
median locust
You alternate between black magic and white magic to get black/white mana gauges up while keeping them somewhat near each other
limber parcel
Sounds pretty simple overall
agile laurel
Also dancer requires level 60 in any combat job and is inaccessible on the trial
median locust
then when they're full you spend all of it on powerfull melee attacks then an explosion
agile laurel
Even the new trial
proven bay
What's gonna help you level really fast is making gear sets for different classes. They give you tons of xp
agile laurel
Yeah rdm is probably the simplest job concept in the game
limber parcel
I'll probably pay once i get to the point of being able to unlock the dancer
agile laurel
it also has the payoff of being flashy as hell
limber parcel
Would a bard/mach/dancer be a good pick for a beginner? I understand Bards one of the most played classes in the game after some googling
agile laurel
machinist is a lot easier than bard, but by nature the physical range classes don't tend to be very difficult
bard just requires an average amount of micromanaging
limber parcel
Okay cool, i may go for a Machinist then once I'm able to unlock that 🙂
I was giving the classes a look, and Machinist and Gunbreaker appealed to me a lot
but i may wait a bit before trying out a tank
agile laurel
Plus since i assume you've seen the larryzaur video red mage does retain some support as its cast-instant mechanic can also be applied to its resurrection
limber parcel
Nah i haven't seen any videos, only from reading forum posts and articles
agile laurel
i am surprised. let me go find it.
median locust
Red Mage can chain resurrect people pretty easily, and has a weak, but viable heal
limber parcel
Thanks
agile laurel
twilit arch
its in the pins
agile laurel
Oh?
median locust
You don't heal normally but if healers are all dead, it can help
agile laurel
well there it is anyway
limber parcel
Thank you, i'll give it a watch 🙂
Just need to go walk the dog because she won't stop moaning then I'll be back
agile laurel
bear in mind gunbreaker falls into the same category as dancer
shadowbringers, and level 60
limber parcel
Ah okay
agile laurel
drk unlocks alongside machinist and astrologian
limber parcel
Ah got it!
agile laurel
which will be included in the new trial, i suppose
median locust
Need to reach Ishgard in the main story for DRK/MCH/AST which is more effort than just reaching 50
agile laurel
Oh yeah, for sure
median locust
there's a good amount of quests between reaching level 50 and actually reaching Ishgard lol
agile laurel
especially with the amount of xp inflation you can hit yourself with
nova umbra
wait, so even if you don't get a chest this week (lost all rolls), and you join a 1 chest group, you can't even roll for them?
twilit arch
for savage? correct. Doesn't matter if you won loot or not, you can't roll again when you've cleared the instance once for the week
its why you also get a book whenever you clear the first time as well
median locust
yup, you get 1 shot at rolling then that's it.
twilit arch
so that if you're unlucky with rolls, you will be able to buy the item you want eventually
nova umbra
wow...
median locust
If you clear again, you lower the amount of chests for everyone else and can't get anything
nova umbra
I thought I could try grinding them in 1 chest groups since I haven't won a roll in 7 weeks T.T
stiff fiber
A technical question, if I wanted to play on 4k 60FPS would an RTX 2080 Super be more than enough to stay at a consistent 60fps under heavy load (i.e. large raid battle)
nova umbra
so are people who joining 1 chest groups just there to help?
median locust
Right click, retrieve materia
If it's a tier 7 or 8, it has a chance to break when taking it out
It always takes the materia at the bottom first, you can't pick the one you want to take out
zinc orbitBOT
low swallow
ok i have a weird question
i have an ao dai (finally) an would like to wear it. is there a way i can have it cover my normal astroligan armor and retain the stats?
little swift
thats not a weird question at all
you're asking about glamour, this game's version of transmog
!faq glamour
zinc orbitBOT
low swallow
still confusing but it helps some
oblique forum
When you switch to rogue class, does it reset your level?
leaden ginkgo
Question about weaver, and id assume all the crafters have something like this in their abilities. does standard touch just replace basic touch? or is there reason to use both
proven bay
Basic touch is generally better since you can stack more inner quiet procs
But if you have enough CP, Standard touch is better
gritty oracle
@oblique forum Class levels are stored separately. So, you're a level 19 archer, you unlock rogue, now you're a level 1 rogue. But if you change to archer, your level changes to 19 since you're 19 archer.
little swift
When you switch to rogue class, does it reset your level?
@oblique forum whne you switch to a new job, you will have to level it from whatever level it starts on. for rogue that is 1
leaden ginkgo
ty
little swift
still confusing but it helps some
@low swallow what part is confusing you?
proven bay
But it depends on a lot of factors @leaden ginkgo I would generally say stick with basic touch unless you're very confident you'll get 100% quality with standard touch
zinc orbitBOT
agile laurel
oh come on-
oblique forum
this dagger is lvl 5 req im wondering if i should take it is why i ask
leaden ginkgo
That sounds good to me, thank you
agile laurel
!faq levelingaltjobs
zinc orbitBOT
proven bay
Later on that won't even be a problem since you get byregot's blessing. Which carries you a lot
agile laurel
asdf. the fuck is the tag?
gritty oracle
@proven bay No. There are times when you want the cheaper quality increase, mostly for stacking Byregot or a more slow but steady increase if you've got high durability low CP.
faint flare
Its altlvlguide
proven bay
Yeah, that's what I'm saying is it not? Basic touch tends to be better unless you have the CP for standard touch
Because of more inner quiet procs and byregot's blessing synergy
vivid wolf
When should i use cure 1 instead of cure 2?
low swallow
ok i "transmogged" my ao dai and dyed it but the dye isnt showing?
vivid wolf
just did my first cutter's cry run and it went horrible
vivid wolf
somehow compared to other dungeons, i didnt manage to outheal the damage
median locust
Well, if you have access to Lucid at least
twilit arch
no
obsidian patio
@low swallow you have to dye the item you glamoured the ao dai onto
twilit arch
make sure you're making use of regen, and esuna (on the 2nd boss)
vivid wolf
yeah didnt know about esuna
they had to tell me about it
should really look up some important abils and where to put them on my hotbar
obsidian patio
For white mage, all of them but repose and fluid aura, basically.
Cure 1 too, but you want to keep it around for when you get low level dungeons in Leveling
low swallow
@low swallow you have to dye the item you glamoured the ao dai onto
@obsidian patio unreal
vivid wolf
why not fluid aura?
faint flare
It's useless
obsidian patio
It’s just a bind which is useless a majority of the time.
twilit arch
the bind isn't really useful, outside of like really niche situations
halcyon glen
I even keep Repose and Fluid on my bar (right next to where I banished Cure I to) in case some healer quest requires them again
obsidian patio
Bind breaks when you do damage to a monster, so it does nothing in active combat.
My only real use of it is in Eureka trying to run away from monsters.
halcyon glen
The level 80 healer role quest requires using Repose for some reason. Don’t ask why, it just does.
Keep it around until then at least
silk summit
Probably so they had an excuse for why they didn't delete it
...And probably means they never will
halcyon glen
And by “around” I of course mean “banished to the farthest depths of your 3rd/4th hotbar with Fluid Aura and Cure I”
open coral
I don't remember needing Repose for the level 80 healer role quest.
remote lintel
you do need it
faint flare
The dwarf asks you or you cant clear
lime geode
Do you guys use surecast?
twilit arch
yes
halcyon glen
Yes
remote lintel
yes
open coral
Oh! Right. For that.
lime geode
When is it useful?
twilit arch
surecast is niche but very useful in those situation
open coral
Any time you want to avoid a knockback
twilit arch
whenever you need to avoid knockbacks
lime geode
So you need to know the fight. Probably more useful end game.
faint flare
Pops up more than you think, primarily in raids
open coral
For example, in the most recent content, you can use it to not get pushed back in E8
When she casts Heavenly Strike
silk summit
It's caster arm's length, another skill that everyone except tanks seems to forget exists
halcyon glen
Healers only have one useless role action and that’s repose
open coral
Repose isn't... entirely useless.
halcyon glen
The other 5 are good. Use them.
open coral
Fluid Aura though. That's completely worthless.
median locust
Surecast is also good if you need to eat an AoE for whatever reason and don't want your cast interrupted.
It prevents that
Example: Uptime soccer
open coral
I like Repose in cases (while leveling) where I accidentally pull too many mobs, or want to avoid pulling too many mobs on my way to a quest objective.
halcyon glen
Fair.
open coral
It's pointless in group content, but for solo content it can get some decent mileage... assuming you remember it exists.
halcyon glen
My snark was more in reference to some other classes role actions. Specifically Ranged DPS.
halcyon glen
Where 3 are literally useless and one more is non-combat only
open coral
I think I only ever put Head Shot and Peloton on my bars for rdps
halcyon glen
I mean
Arm’s Length
And Head Graze is important
Peloton is great when it works, it’s just out of combat only
open coral
Head Graze, yeah. That's what I meant. Does rdps get Arm's Length? I thought that was only tanks and melee.
halcyon glen
We do
twilit arch
everyone has knockback immunity
halcyon glen
Every class has knockback immunity now
halcyon glen
Aaaaand then there’s leg graze and whatever the other ones are
limpid lantern
Is it worth paying 100k for a gladiator lvl 50 weapon ?
twilit arch
no
median locust
no
open coral
No
median locust
just get ironworks
open coral
^
left moth
all physical damage jobs get arms legnth, healers and casters use surecast
open coral
TIL
twilit arch
use poetics to buy the ironworks weapon. 7x Rowena's Token (Poetics) and 1x Encrypted Tomestone from Auriana and exchange those to Aelina
halcyon glen
100k for a level 50 weapon smells like a glamour item, which one is it?
limpid lantern
A blue lvl 50 one, i just tp'd away from the tradeboard hold on
left moth
guessing a primal crafted weapon
halcyon glen
Probably a primal weapon yep
limpid lantern
Mighty Thunderstrike ?
remote lintel
glamour
halcyon glen
Ramuh!
open coral
Ramuh EX crafted weapon
Glam
Really nice glam, but still glam
All the Ramuh weapons look super cool, imo
halcyon glen
In which case if you ain’t crafting it yourself hell yes it’s worth 100k for glamour
But like
remote lintel
its alright
limpid lantern
Well, even if its glam, its got +14 for me on damage xD
remote lintel
no get ironworks
open coral
Go for the Ironworks weapon
halcyon glen
Go buy your ironworks weapon silly
remote lintel
ironworks is ilvl 120
open coral
The primal crafted weapons are only like, ilevel 90 or smth
median locust
Ironworks is way cheaper AND better
open coral
Ironworks is 120 base, and upgradable to 130
median locust
only get the thunderstrike for glam
halcyon glen
Crafted Ramuh should be 110 iirc
twilit arch
yes its 110
halcyon glen
Yeah. Hell, I used upgraded Shiva book until like level 57 on SCH
that’s 110 dropped from Shiva EX upgrades to 120
median locust
good way to get a decent weapon for alts I guess lol
ionic hazel
do i lose the loot chance
median locust
farm shiva unsync at 80
ionic hazel
if i dont roll
halcyon glen
I was farming for the Cane anyway
ionic hazel
and just leave
faint flare
Yes
median locust
yes
halcyon glen
In savage? Yes.
ionic hazel
on normal non savage raids?
faint flare
Leaving removes you from the loot list
open coral
Normal no
median locust
Yup
ionic hazel
the non savage eden raid
idle sentinel
is there a list of the kupo commands or whatever they are i can look through
halcyon glen
Anything weekly locked iirc
limpid lantern
How do i get the poetics ?
open coral
You won't get loot from that run, but you can go back and try again.
twilit arch
do level 50 instances
ionic hazel
ok thanks thats all i wanted to hear
median locust
Non-Savage, you can only win one piece per week, but you get infinite shots at getting the one you want
halcyon glen
Level 50/60/70 dungeons
faint flare
On normal you can pick 1 token but can run multiple times for it
halcyon glen
Or trials
twilit arch
the first two lvl 50 dungeons, Castrum Meridianium and Praetorium give you enough poetics to buy the weapon
open coral
@limpid lantern MSQ, level 50/60/70 dungeons, first attempts at trials, Normal raids.
limpid lantern
Alright ^^
remote lintel
roulettes
limpid lantern
Ill go do that tomorrow(not progressed far enkugh yet in msq)
halcyon glen
Go do MSQ then
halcyon glen
Fair
open coral
Sleep pfft
limpid lantern
Tomorrow its msq again ^^
open coral
Who needs it
limpid lantern
I do, i have been up for 26 hours now
halcyon glen
I kinda wanna get a Ramuh farming party eventually and see if I can at least farm the cane and the rapier
And the material to craft the prettier ones
open coral
I use the Ramuh daggers for my NIN glam
median locust
you can farm it solo at 80 easy
limpid lantern
Thanks for the answer! Have a good one ^^
halcyon glen
Yes but it takes foreverrrrr
median locust
not really
proven sparrow
does complete edition not come with in game time?
remote lintel
it does
halcyon glen
It should
proven sparrow
installer is still locking me out
remote lintel
did you put the code into mogstation
halcyon glen
It took me like 5 minutes last time I triedddd
proven sparrow
yeah just did. says I own the expansions but 0 days left
open coral
Did you forget to attack the adds?
median locust
Did you already have the base game
open coral
That's the only reason Ramuh would take longer
halcyon glen
Did you already have the base game?
median locust
If you already do, you can't get another set of 30 days
unless it's a new platform
proven sparrow
i played for free years ago that disqualifies me?
halcyon glen
Shouldn’t
halcyon glen
^
open coral
No, free trial doesn't exclude you from free game time if you buy the complete edition now.
proven sparrow
i am 99% sure it was the free trial
proven sparrow
fuck it might have been that then
halcyon glen
That’ll do it
proven sparrow
should be some kind of warning I'm kinda fucking peeved at that
median locust
then yeah, already used your free 30 days
idle sentinel
so i finished shadowbringer msq, i am lvl 80 and bought full neo ishgardian armor acc and weapon. what is my next step in getting prepared to start end game stuff
open coral
Do Eden raids, unlock the EX trials.
remote lintel
you shouldn't have spent money on neo ish weapon
halcyon glen
There’s three ways to upgrade for ya from 480 right now
lime geode
Are the items you get from Alexander/Omega raids good for anything?
faint flare
Relic weapon, start capping allegory. Practice in EX trials then jump into savage
Just glamour
remote lintel
@lime geode trading for glam
lime geode
ok, makes sense
idle sentinel
i bought all the stuff a cpl weeks ago and haad it saved in preperation. i wanted to get it while it was cheaper
idle sentinel
yea
remote lintel
sucks
lime geode
I'll probably just toss em 🙂
halcyon glen
Make your way to Kugane, do the 
called Save the Queen or something like that
idle sentinel
its no biggie, was only like 40k gil
faint flare
Need to do lv70 24mans first before the relic appears
halcyon glen
Do the quest line, acquire 485 weapon for free
idle sentinel
i have no done any alliance raids except for the 3 arr ones
or regular raids for that matter
remote lintel
go to kugane and do the ivalice quests
halcyon glen
get on that
remote lintel
@lime geode have to be 2nd sergeant or something first
open coral
You can exchange almost any green, pink, or blue quality gear for GC seals by speaking to the second NPC from the right at the counter in your GC headquarters.
lime geode
Uh I think I'm pretty high - 50k GC limit
halcyon glen
@lime geode exchange the drops for glams one Idylshire, go to your GC headquarters and commence expert delivery
idle sentinel
alright so do the ivalice quest line unlocks allaince raids in stomblood i assume?
lime geode
I'll check
remote lintel
yes
halcyon glen
Hand over the glam items for free ventures and glamour prisms
open coral
Yeah
idle sentinel
once i do them i can do the relic weapon queast line?
halcyon glen
I mean seals
remote lintel
yes crow
idle sentinel
very good
lime geode
Yeah I need ventures badly - figured I'd use the GCs for those.
halcyon glen
Also the 70 alliance raids are really fun
idle sentinel
where do i unlock the eden raids
lime geode
I hand those over to someone in Idylshire?
remote lintel
in the crystarium
halcyon glen
Quest in the Crystarium
remote lintel
"into the empty" or something
halcyon glen
obviously
lime geode
Ok, I'll head there
So many blue quests I've ignored most of em in revenant toll and idylshire and rhalgars
remote lintel
you work your way up
halcyon glen
@lime geode no you’re going to Idylshire
open coral
It's in the connecting passage between the main aetheryte and the market in the Crystarium.
remote lintel
alexander was not fun
idle sentinel
alright cool. are eden 8 man or 24 man raids
idle sentinel
should i be doing the 24 man ones to
open coral
They're fun, and the NieR ones are all basically designed and scripted by the NieR team.
remote lintel
and you can get 490 gear with them next patch
open coral
So YorHa is as close to playing NieR in FFXIV as you can get.
idle sentinel
where will i find the stuff higher than 480. i imagine thats what i want to work towards
and im not familiar with nier. what is that
remote lintel
crystarium gear, savage raids
mental garnet
is there a penalty for leaving a dungeon when someone else leaves before you? 9/10 times when i get castrum like 3+ people leave
remote lintel
nier automata is another game by squeenix
idle sentinel
ah ic
remote lintel
the nier raids are like a crossover with ff14
proven sparrow
so since i have to buy a sub now, is there a way to atleast install the game prior? if I'm gonna have to pay for complete+sub i'd rather wait til the 11th to cash the month in
idle sentinel
great
proven sparrow
right now installer locks me out before i can install
unreal herald
Is there anything currently do-able in the firmament/diadem that won't be available after 5.3 drops?
remote lintel
are you on windows?
proven sparrow
yes
remote lintel
you can try installing the trial from steam
then copy paste the files and delete the steam one
but thats kinda more effort
open coral
No @unreal herald
unreal herald
I'm just trying to figure out how to best spend my time this week before the patch
proven sparrow
easy enough to link the square enix account to the steam one post install?
twilit arch
5.3 isn't bringing the next stage of the restoration anyway
idle sentinel
allegory tombstones are the ones capped at 450 per week right?
proven sparrow
cuz i've already learned how shitty their site ui/processes are
remote lintel
no you would need a new service account
nova umbra
how do 0.7% people own this?...
vestal charm
Is going through sidequests decent exp for leveling alt classes?
twilit arch
it'll be 5.31 which is a few weeks after the patch
remote lintel
@vestal charm no
twilit arch
but nothing is being removed from the restoration
vestal charm
The queue times to try and level my monk are pretty atrocious
remote lintel
!faq altlvlguide
zinc orbitBOT
nova umbra
sidequests give like nooooooo exp
vivid wolf
Sometimes i wonder if i'm bad at healing, or if my team is just expecting too much
vestal charm
I'm already at 72
open coral
Could be both, tbh
vivid wolf
i keep regen active on the tank during the fight, i use medica 2 when he drops below like 60-50% hp, aero the boss when it's about to run out etc
remote lintel
pixie beast tribes are great for exp
vivid wolf
yet we all die
open coral
Are you using Cure 2 at all @vivid wolf
remote lintel
what lvl are you
remote lintel
is the tank pulling a lot?
vestal charm
Thank ye
vivid wolf
like 2-3 groups
remote lintel
are they using mitigation?
open coral
That's not a lot
vivid wolf
it's mostly bossfights that i seem to struggle
lime geode
I can't seem to find the quest you guys are talking about to exchange alexander parts for venture tokens in idylshire. I see Sabina for exchange but no blue quests - perhaps I did it already.
vivid wolf
was doing stone vigil (normalà
remote lintel
it's not a quest siv
open coral
Oh SV
vivid wolf
and the fight with the cannon, the tornadoes seemed to overwhelm us
open coral
That dungeon is just a pain
lime geode
right, that just gives me armor and such or alex parts
open coral
Second boss in SV, people need to avoid the tornadoes as much as possible, and you can Esuna the dot they leave on people.
vivid wolf
literally couldnt cast any heals since i would be standing in a tornado for 2.5sec
remote lintel
i think they meant you can exchange parts for gear then exchange that for GC seals
lime geode
Ah, ic
open coral
Then your dps were also bad, and your tank wasn't doing positioning correctly.
vivid wolf
i should learn how to use asuna more tbf
open coral
Yes, you should. Esuna is a vital part of your toolkit as a healer. Any healer.
vivid wolf
debuff awareness isn't that good so far
open coral
Any debuff with a white line over it can be removed with Esuna.
remote lintel
you should be looking at your party health/status frequently
vivid wolf
yeah it's what i'm looking at most of the time
but the debuff icon isn't really catching my eye
probably still need to learn that
remote lintel
could make your party list bigger i suppose
vivid wolf
started playing whm yesterday
zinc orbitBOT
remote lintel
ur gettin there
open coral
Debuff icons always have a red background on a downwards pointing arrow.
vivid wolf
the gap between lvl 30 dungeons and lvl 40 dungeons seems to be pretty big in terms of mechanics
open coral
A little, yeah. SV is particularly brutal on new healers.
vivid wolf
cure 1 wasnt cutting it anymore
uneven stream
So I hear this new patch is reducing the amount of story quests while levelling, was thinking of trying it when it drops
open coral
Next week.
remote lintel
its trimming the filler between ARR and HW
open coral
Exactly 7 days from today.
uneven stream
Never got into ff14 cause I always got told the levelling was tedious at the start
white pike
😮 ARR is removing quests???
vivid wolf
yeah but some stuff is getting longer i think
white pike
Dangit.
remote lintel
post ARR quests
frail fulcrum
Is there news about ffxv xover??
faint flare
No
left moth
yes arr is getting a big filler quest reduction (13% quests removed, didn't say how many consolidated to make lore filler quests longer)
frail fulcrum
Dang, but happy for Yokai watch
left moth
15 crossover probably won't be back until next year
twilit arch
its not simply post ARR, cerberus
vivid wolf
Is aurum vale easier on healers?
twilit arch
its trimming all of 2.0-2.55
vivid wolf
seems to be the next dungeon that i need to train at
open coral
No. AV is, if anything, harder.
vivid wolf
guess i'll stick to cutter's
remote lintel
if you're familiar with aurum vale then it shouldn't be too difficult as a healer
vivid wolf
i'll just do cutters so that i can get used to using asuna
left moth
catpiss aurum vale is 80% dealing with the first room and the first boss, and then the first group of trash right after the 2nd boss
vivid wolf
is aurum vale the one with the plant as final boss?
left moth
yes
twilit arch
ye
vivid wolf
still don't really get that one after doing it for like 10 times over
eat plants
don't die
remote lintel
you eat the fruit when you get 3 stacks of that thing
open coral
AV is also rough because people don't respect new healers there, and just take 100 stacks of the burrs debuff on the first and third bosses.
remote lintel
make life hard
open coral
That's the debuff that you have to eat fruit to get rid of
left moth
first boss eat fruit after 2 stacks, 3rd boss eat fruit after 3 stacks. for 3rd boss avoid front (frontal cleave, may target non tank players with it)
open coral
It's a dot.
little swift
for the third boss also
the more stacks you have
the more the roomwide will do to you
open coral
No, the burrs debuff is a stacking debuff that does X% of players' hp in damage per tick depending on how many stacks you have
Not defense debuff at all
vivid wolf
If only the whm glamours didn't look so dope, i would have given up leveling after 1h
gotta do it for the glamours
vivid wolf
all of them
open coral
WHM gets a lot more tools by level 60
silk summit
It's also one of the first instances of a boss without telegraphed attacks, though it's not particularly difficult regardless
vivid wolf
whm has some amazing outfits
open coral
And healing gets easier overall after 50.
vivid wolf
It's also one of the first instances of a boss without telegraphed attacks, though it's not particularly difficult regardless
you mean those orange outlines?
remote lintel
yes
open coral
Yep
left moth
after 52 when get lillies it starts getting really comfy
silk summit
Yeah, the second miniboss has attacks without that, you have to look at the cast bar to know what it's about to do
vivid wolf
is that the ogre looking guy with the instakill swing?
open coral
Mhm
silk summit
Yeah
vivid wolf
that explains a lot
open coral
Just stay out of his max range and you're fine
silk summit
Good tanks will just stun his big 360 swing
vivid wolf
do non telegraphed attacks happen a lot more later on?
open coral
That's the easiest fight to heal in AV, imo
vivid wolf
never noticed it on my drag (lvl 60ish atm)
vivid wolf
oh, so nothing to worry about for a while
left moth
swipe: frontal
swing: 360 on boss
glower: line in front
silk summit
There's also some fights later on that will still have the ground markers, but they're visible so briefly that you should react ahead of time
remote lintel
i mean i guess tank cleaves are non telegraphed
left moth
yeah the next major instance on non telegraphed mechanics is in contrainment bay
open coral
Healers have to recognize tankbusters, which are typically not telegraphed as well.
So we can heal or pre-shield to help the tank survive.
vivid wolf
so it's the healer's responsibility to avoid tankbusters?
i thought the tank would do it, and the healer heals back to full if needed
like living dead or whatever it's called
left moth
tanks have to learn tells and mitigate appropiately (either cast bar or visual tell)
open coral
It's the tank's responsibility to cd tankbusters, but the healer's to assist their survival
little swift
the healer has to top themselves back up
remote lintel
i mean it's everybody's responsibility to avoid tankbusters
little swift
if needed
remote lintel
you shouldn't be standing with the tank
little swift
and dps have to make sure they don't get cleaved if it is a cleave
left moth
healers can help with mitigation but they can't solo that work
vivid wolf
when do tank busters start getting common?
open coral
But you have to recognize at least the names of the tankbusters so you can have a big heal ready to go on the tank as soon as the buster goes off.
vivid wolf
like stormblood?
remote lintel
like almost every boss?
vivid wolf
guess i'm missing something then lol
open coral
Pretty much every boss has a tankbuster. They just don't really start being obvious to healers until after level 50 MSQ.
silk summit
Most have them, it just takes a while for them to get seriously threatening, plus gear inflation makes some not as impactful
faint flare
When the tank suddenly loses a ton of hp. Thats a buster
left moth
I would say every other instance has busters but they get common in stormblood since by then most tanks have enough one off skills for busters
vivid wolf
probably since it's still lower lvl dungeons
remote lintel
probably because the tank was mitigating
open coral
A tankbuster will always have a cast bar and no telegraph.
remote lintel
and sometimes they have splash damage
vivid wolf
any other signs?
remote lintel
those are fun :^)
vivid wolf
so if i see like a cast bar and no telegraph, i use a shield (if i have that)?
open coral
Not necessarily (although you will get a shield later on as WHM).
remote lintel
not every cast bar is a TB
vivid wolf
well that's gonna take ages
remote lintel
no
little swift
the easiest way to learn
remote lintel
it's not that big of a deal until later duties
open coral
You'll get an idea of what boss skills are tankbusters as you go.
little swift
is to be smushed by one
open coral
Don't worry about it too much right now.
left moth
cast bars just indicate a longer skill is being readied by the actor (mob/boss). there's a very infamous trial in stormblood where the cast bar has nothing to do with the boss itself (and is good at killing players who don't know how to react to it)
vivid wolf
are tankbusters scripted?
dense yoke
where can i find upto date ninja
remote lintel
yes
dense yoke
are tankbusters scripted?
@vivid wolf yes
remote lintel
almost everything is scripted
dense yoke
up to date ninja rotation
remote lintel
in every fight
open coral
I think the first time I really started noticing tankbusters was in Alexander.
Which is level 60 content.
dense yoke
the most up to date ninja thing i can find is 5.0 on google
faint flare
!faq Balance
zinc orbitBOT
faint flare
In there
vivid wolf
guess i'll just see what happens as i progress
open coral
Learning to heal is a bit of a trial by fire.
remote lintel
in low lvl content TBs arent gonna be that bad
left moth
[concuss intensifies] (concuss is a debuff that requires tank swap unless heavily mitigated)
open coral
Just make sure that, after you hit level 50 content, you start letting people know that you're new to healing and still getting the hang of it.
vivid wolf
yeah, learning curve is a lot different compared to dps
remote lintel
the only thing i can think of where you have to really be aware of them are in the lvl 80 eden raids
vivid wolf
doesnt have rotations or anything
remote lintel
that makes it easier 
open coral
It does, but the "rotation" is different
Healer rotation is more about knowing when you need to use specific heals or cooldowns.
dense yoke
anyone know ninja rotate? e_e
remote lintel
nin rotation?
dense yoke
yes all these google guides out of date
twilit arch
!faq ninguide
zinc orbitBOT
faint flare
They have guides for everything
open coral
Like, is the party going to need a big AoE heal, or will a group HoT be sufficient? Is the party going to be stacked up close enough that you can use a short range AoE to heal everyone, or should you be using something with a wider reach.
dense yoke
thanks
remote lintel
spamming your damage moves isnt your rotation
vivid wolf
should i be using medica 1 or cure 3 for group heals?
open coral
Yes
open coral
Depending on whether the party is grouped up (C3 is superior) or more spread out (Medica has more reach, but it's limited so your positioning has to be good)
Medica isn't going to get a lot of use in higher level content, but it's still useful in under 50 content before you have Medica 2
twilit arch
when you get higher in level, you'll want to use Afflatus Rapture instead of medica 1 for aoe healing if people are spread
remote lintel
remember which heals do what specifically and use them depending on the situation
they have different uses
left moth
medica is for bread and butter aoe healing (never spam media 2). cure 3 is for situations where everyone is stacked and you're expecting to need to top off yesterday (Orbonne Monastery)
peak jolt
Whats a good way to farm poetics? I do roulettes and Athermatic whatever it’s called, what else is there?
twilit arch
!faq poetics
zinc orbitBOT
open coral
And yeah, once you get into the 70+ content and have Rapture, you'll want to use that over Medica
twilit arch
2nd link goes over the various ways to get more poetics
peak jolt
Cool
misty marsh
Best materia for DRK?
remote lintel
sks to tier > crit > dh > det
distant tartan
question, if i am f2p and decide to buy a mount off of the site will that transaction automatically upgrade my account to a standard or will it remain f2p
left moth
skill speed/gcd to taste > crit > direct > det. tenacity requires too much to be useful (so would avoid adding it but if something has higher item level and tenacity that's still an overall gain)
open coral
It will remain f2p, but you won't be able to retrieve the mount without upgrading to a paid account.
twilit arch
you cannot buy from mogstation if you are trial
you have to upgrade to the full game first before you can make any purchases from the optional store
distant tartan
it would be great if there was a warning on the site or something
but i guess it makes sense
cobalt narwhal
I just finished ARR does that mean im at the part where i gotta do the 100 quests
remote lintel
if you mean after the ultima weapon yes
remote lintel
its a dungeon
cobalt narwhal
thats even more dumb then
wintry chasm
Least there aren't any dungeons like that before or after
cobalt narwhal
that didnt feel like a dungeon
it was easy sure but it felt more like just a super easy raid
calling it a dungeon doesnt feel right
remote lintel
thats because everyone was op
faint flare
Because power creep
cobalt narwhal
it didnt scale?
faint flare
It scaled to the highest ilvl of 50
cobalt narwhal
i thought it scales ilvl too
wintry chasm
it scales ilvl...to a degree
cobalt narwhal
o
wintry chasm
but honestly the level cap content like that scale too high tbh
But that's another conversation
vivid wolf
doing msq roulette is like playing russian roulette
and the bullet is that netflix dungeon
zenith karma
How do I color my chocobo? Like as in which quest unlocks it
cobalt narwhal
im so bored of doing these same quests
vivid wolf
it'll get better
remote lintel
stable your chocobo and feed it the right order of food
vivid wolf
spice it up with some roulettes and job quests
the arr quest grind will be doable then
cobalt narwhal
wasnt that story dungeon the end of arr
zenith karma
Is the quest that bird in hand one?
vivid wolf
now there is a 100 quest epilogue/hw setup
remote lintel
bird in hand unlocks chocobo training
vivid wolf
after the 100
remote lintel
its after oyu beat the ultima weapon
vivid wolf
oh wait yeah
vivid wolf
my bad
cobalt narwhal
might just buy a skip now then
remote lintel
to what
cobalt narwhal
heaven
vivid wolf
it's like 2-3 days tops
remote lintel
^
vivid wolf
the xp is horrible tho
remote lintel
and you wouldnt understand heavensward
vivid wolf
^
cobalt narwhal
rather watch a yt video of the lore while i gather or something
vivid wolf
i skipped some cutscenes and it already caused a struggle
cobalt narwhal
than do 100 quests for 2xp
vivid wolf
yeah true
remote lintel
not that bad
agile laurel
not hardly. yeah
agile laurel
post ARR is a bit of a tit, but it's colossally a waste of money and less of a waste of time
cobalt narwhal
im a tank
vivid wolf
that 100 quest gap made me reroll my job twice
remote lintel
i mean you would be watching like a several hour long youtube video before you can even begin to play HW then
if thats what oyu want to do
you would be stalling your msq
cobalt narwhal
yea but i said i could gather
remote lintel
remote lintel
realistically its like 1/3 filler and the other 2/3 are story
cobalt narwhal
im gonna need to get that up eventually anyways
idk man im just bored of these repetitive quests with no other options or breaks
remote lintel
then take breaks
remote lintel
complains about no breaks
10 hrs a day
uneven terrace
That's insane, lol
cobalt narwhal
ill just be even more overleveled for the msq if i do that
remote lintel
no you wont
uneven terrace
I'm on the post ARR stuff and I spread it out quite a bit
vivid wolf
doesnt matter
remote lintel
over leveling in patch quests helps you for the next expansion anyway
vivid wolf
once you unlock hw, you unlock a lot of job quests too
cobalt narwhal
i thought the quests carried u to the level reqs
vivid wolf
if you're overleveled, you can breeze through them
remote lintel
if you only do msq and youre not on a preferred server you'll hit level walls
cobalt narwhal
i am on a prefered
remote lintel
it doesnt hurt to be over leveled in patch quests
uneven terrace
Weird. I was just doing MSG and I wad underleveled at a few points
remote lintel
and the 24 mans would hardly overlvl you anyways
cobalt narwhal
btw do they give fantasias or other cash shop items from msq besides this 1 time
remote lintel
why buy the fantasia alone when you can buy the HW collector's edition 
cobalt narwhal
i hate how the other races posture is but cat boys are too short
uneven terrace
Cant decide between giant roe or viking warrior chick paladin
cobalt narwhal
i wish i could preview things
remote lintel
make a retainer and preview it
wise acorn
why settle for HW collectors edition and not go for the collectors bundle
digital ice
Will the free trial be available to those who purchased the base game and stopped at 30?
uneven terrace
Can you control your retainer?
remote lintel
i mean you can look at all the appearance options
uneven terrace
Haven't unlocked it
remote lintel
@digital ice no
uneven terrace
Ahh gotcha. It's more of a feel thing
remote lintel
@wise acorn because i dont want 40$ worth of stuff
digital ice
Gotcha
uneven terrace
I'm thinking glamour will be more fun on the chick but roe look amazing in plate
Male roe that is
vocal shell
You unlock aether currents in that area
remote lintel
when you get to the first zone in HW and get all the currents and the quests and progress far enough in the msq
twilit arch
easy enough, just talk to the OIC administrator of the grand company your FC is part of. There's a 30cd
that said only the FC leader can rename
leaden ginkgo
ty kae 🙂 ❤️
uneven terrace
Since I posted above I switched back to a roe, Haha. I'm staying damnit. The end game plate looks too cool
pearl wharf
at low levels is your running speed supposed to be really low?
i see this new players running slow
raven sage
If you mean on foot then you should always run at the same speed no matter what your level
pearl wharf
yeah...
than this guy has something wrong where his runnign speed is really low
its like a jog
vocal shell
maybe he’s rp walking
pearl wharf
what
zinc orbitBOT
simple shore
must be a controller user then
raven sage
Controller still only has 2 speeds
little swift
could also be that your game isn't syncing with his movement
pearl wharf
no hes on pc
little swift
and he's moving very little
remote lintel
you can use controller on PC
twilit arch
just because they're on pc doesn't mean they cant be controller user
simple shore
I mean, i've observed that sort of thing before
pearl wharf
i mean i know but hes not on controller
simple shore
where people are "in between walk and run"
pearl wharf
^
gloomy ice
One of my FC mates had a toaster of a computer that was barely able to run the game at all. It would very frequently mess with their run speed. They walked their way through T5.
Extreme lag conditions can also affect run speed like that as well
But I’m unsure which it would be in this particular instance
slate arrow
basically, if you're running this game below 30 FPS physics and latency will very quickly get wonky
slate arrow
For the most part movement isn't server sided after the Trainwreck of 1.0
It's why you can see bots phase through the world for example
The only way to really effect your movement speed is to have your framerate be in the single digits
cobalt narwhal
whats that thing where u can trade in gear for seals
twilit arch
need to be sergeant second class
grave thicket
what secondary skill tree should I level up at my companion chobobo besides DPS?
remote lintel
heal
plush hound
yeah, equip it before you leave the dungeon.
plush hound
correct
little swift
you have to kill the boss with the anima weapon equipped
ocean blaze
Hi all, brand new player here. If I start now, will I be able to take advantage of the expanded free trial on the 11th or should I wait till the patch to start my account?
little swift
we have no idea whether that will happen yet @ocean blaze
mental garnet
i recently did anima weapon and just equipped it right before i left the dungeon
not before killing the boss
little swift
for the most part
ocean blaze
OK, yeah I've seen mixed info on it. Might be best to just wait
little swift
its on kill of boss is how they determine it
ocean blaze
Thank you 🙂
little swift
unless its specifies it can be in your inventory
sorry didn't read which quest you're on
as you exit is fine
but
its harder to remember
pliant frigate
Is there any way to disable spell auto-targeting? I’d rather have the spell im casting be cancelled if my target is dead instead of automatically shooting off at the nearest mob. Ive combed through the options but didnt see it so im thinking its one of those weird hard to find oddly named options
simple shore
what do you mean "shooting off at the nearest mob"?
That's not how spellcasts work at all
pliant frigate
Its how it seems to be working for me. After my target dies the spell im casting shoots off at the nearest mob and aggros them
simple shore
A spell cant switch targets mid-cast
Its not possible
The only possibility is that you're changing targets
pliant frigate
Then I may be misunderstanding whats happening
short sparrow
Is this also a place to ask questions about specific bosses / mechanics?
charred glen
Hey guys I just reactivated my FFXIV account after a 5 year break. Looking for NA west coast linkshell to join anyone point me to the right direction?
simple shore
It can be, yes
violet star
unless you're asking mechanics in an ultimate fight...
pliant frigate
Is theree target auto switchin? Because ive been aggroing passive mobs without even looking at them
Always after i kill a different mob
short sparrow
I realise people may well not know this stuff because there's a lot of dungeons, but Midgarsormr in Guardian of the Lake.
For MSQ.
simple shore
Yeah what about it
short sparrow
It seems like some of the AOEs cover the entire playfield. I'm probably wrong, but let me hear it from you that I'm wrong.
mental garnet
the mechanic is to kill the astraea
simple shore
The one that covers the entire field
short sparrow
Cause I swear I can't get out of some of them.
simple shore
You are intended to be immune to
mental garnet
and use the shield generator
short sparrow
I knew there had to be something.
But there was a whole party of people new to it, so.
little swift
you're supposed to kill the astraea
simple shore
kill the add and use the generator
little swift
and activate the generator
the window on that is lenient
you ahve a lot of time to activate
short sparrow
I believe it, I just get flustered if nobody knows what to do.
simple shore
While you are in the generator you are immune to all attacks
so do not run out of it to dodge aoe's from the dragon
short sparrow
I actually did notice one one of them someone did this and I ran in because it LOOKED protective.
But all the other times none of us figured it out.
Whoops.
fringe lotus
are the Monster hunter event quests still available?
short sparrow
So I guess that's how we finally won. <--- not smart.
twilit arch
yes, the monster hunter cross over event is permanent content @fringe lotus
fringe lotus
Epic win
mental garnet
i just refreshed the server status page and goblin changed from standard to preferred...but the new character creation icon went from green to red too, so i can't make a new character on it
does that happen often?
twilit arch
World status for servers is changed with maintenances/patches generally, but that said character creation availability changes based on how many people are currently logged in
jade quartz
Goblin definitely did not change from standard to preferred
cobalt narwhal
is there a way to make more than 1 bar at a time
ionic hazel
do i need to have a gathering job to be able to upgrade my lower materia
remote lintel
you can't upgrade materia
ionic hazel
i cant merge the lower ones?
remote lintel
no?
uneven terrace
Is there a way to identify a tank buster without reading a wiki?