questions-and-help

[agile laurel]

or 67 times as DF would have me believe

[wintry chasm]

I...am not on my computer

[noble pollen]

Maybe when you get on you dm me?

[wintry chasm]

My general idea though is LB on hotbar 3 so I don't press it, buffs or combos I use not often on d-pad skills, more common stuff on shape buttons. More common skills on hotbar 1 and less common and hotbar 2. I also put my aoes on hotbar 2 to give more space on hotbar 1

[leaden ginkgo]

mt.gulg is surprisingly easy boss wise

[simple shore]

tbh thats every levelling dungeon ShB

[leaden ginkgo]

dohn mheg had a bit more flair and some attacks caught us off guard the first time

mt.gulg kinda bland...cool monsters tho

[noble pollen]

Lol okie ill try that, first time tanking I decided that im about to get to 80 again might as well lvl another char with the dailys. But ill try that aoes hotbar 2 got it

[wintry chasm]

.> Going to be that guy and say "there isn't a question here so #general-discussion"

[tulip plover]

So what are relic weapons?

[leaden ginkgo]

ops my bad i keep on going back and forth between the two

[wintry chasm]

Relic weapons are....weapons you do a sidequest chain to obtain and upgrade and it ends up being the best weapon of that expansion and they have cool glowy effects

They usually have a little plot in there too

[tulip plover]

Ahhh okay

[simple shore]

Anything that isnt current expansion (i.e. shadowbringers) is purely cosmetic at this point.

[valid pecan]

how hard is to learn to use ninja properly and does it pay off for dmg output?

[wintry chasm]

Yeah because it just gets outclassed by the next expansion gear while leveling

[simple shore]

NIN is just as viable as any other DPS

as far as difficulty - that's a question best answered by you

I think NIN is easy as hell. I hear others complain.

[wintry chasm]

I definitely think it's easier to learn now rather than Stormblood due to the mudra changes and ten-chi-jin

[little swift]

the difficulty in nin is mostly jamming everything inside TA windows

[wintry chasm]

Mmmm

[little swift]

not as crazy as it was in SB

agreed

[simple shore]

I maintain that most everyone who complains about NIN probably has dumb keybinds.

i.e. having to dance across their entire keyboard to do mudra combinations

[valid pecan]

makes sense, thanks

[white gorge]

how hard is it to afford a house in this game?

;;;

[simple shore]

Under normal circumstances? Not that bad.

[little swift]

getting the money is never the issue

finding the plot is

[simple shore]

Under current circumstances? Good fucking luck

[white gorge]

oh ;;;

i see i see

[simple shore]

The only ways to get a house currently are either to camp a placard for potentially upwards of 12 hours straight (and know that the placard is available in the first place)

[wintry chasm]

Well getting the money for a small is not an issue

[simple shore]

or buy it on the secondary market for an exorbitant overcharge

[white gorge]

uh wow i see

that kidna sounds complicated

[wintry chasm]

Option 2 is also pretty dodgy

[white gorge]

;;;

[simple shore]

Once (if....) they ever turn auto demolish back on, it'll be fairly easy again

[wintry chasm]

Because you gotta make a deal with another player

[gritty oracle]

Better wait until auto demolish is reinstated

[white gorge]

i see

[wintry chasm]

Or when Ishgard housing comes out

Whichever happens first

[gritty oracle]

Wait, so placard camping isn't the standard way to get a house when auto demolish is on?

[jade quartz]

Would advise against buying off another player who’s not doing FC ownership transfer

[simple shore]

i fully expect entire housing districts to be destroyed when auto demolish comes back

[white gorge]

ye this soudns complicated lmao

[jade quartz]

Because it’s very much not guaranteed to work even if both of you act in good faith

[wintry chasm]

It still would be, there would just be more placards Vie

[white gorge]

i should've asked this another time ;;;

i thought it was all just gonna be buy from npc

[jade quartz]

The current system is in place to prevent people selling houses in fact

[heady flare]

i thought auto demolish was on ause i was seeing lots of vacants pop up

[white gorge]

lol

[gritty oracle]

You're fine Kaspel, it's just a bad time to be getting a house ATM with auto demolish pausrd

[heady flare]

but recently there havent been any

[dry tree]

If you i the complete edition, can I bind it to my free trial account? Or do I have to create a whole new account?

[white gorge]

u can bind to ur free trial

[left moth]

selling by fc proxy is the only 100% reliable way to buy (a house) off another player (and the fringe benefit of using the fc chest to transfer the gil easier without a ton of trades)

[wintry chasm]

Put it on the free trial account

[jade quartz]

Can register to the same account

[dry tree]

👌

[jade quartz]

Your current character and progress will carry over

[white gorge]

I see ;;; @gritty oracle

[wintry chasm]

There will be a big "INSERT CODE HERE"

[gritty oracle]

Also make sure to get a RAF code after buying complete! @dry tree

[white gorge]

yep. your character will carry over, but your UI will not lmao

[limpid lantern]

Hello, i got the info pop up for the oath guage but i accidentally closed it because my dog wanted to run over my lap

[white gorge]

feels really bad

[limpid lantern]

Now i cant find it in active help

[simple shore]

@white gorge actually you can carry over your UI

[dry tree]

RAF code? @gritty oracle

[white gorge]

the hot bar is kinda weird to arrange even

[wintry chasm]

@white gorge save the character folder then

[white gorge]

Free trial players cant

[simple shore]

Yes you can

[white gorge]

i tried ;;;

[limpid lantern]

Am i looking in the wrong menu ?

[white gorge]

uh

[gritty oracle]

Refer a friend. Basically you ask a more experienced player for a code and you both get free stuff. I can give you mine if you're interested

[white gorge]

it's the one at the top right of the

select character screen right?

[wintry chasm]

It should be in active help

[white gorge]

that cog?

[wintry chasm]

Basically it's just "it goes yellow when you have tank stance on"

If you got high enough in level it'll have a gauge that fills but I doubt you are that far

[simple shore]

and these days, the only reason you shouldnt have tank stance on is because you're in an activity with multiple tanks and someone else is going to MT.

[white gorge]

lemme check again

;;;

[limpid lantern]

@wintry chasm i just got to the point where it fills up

Thats why i wanted to read it

[wintry chasm]

Oh

[limpid lantern]

But i cant find it in active help

[simple shore]

Well, for PLD its pretty braindead easy. It fills based on landing autoattacks

[white gorge]

back up client settings right?

[simple shore]

You spend 50 to cast Sheltron, Cover, or Intervention.

[white gorge]

ye it says "feature not available in free trial"

same with back up character settings

Can't save UI lmao

[simple shore]

@white gorge you will have to manually pick up and move the folders in the install directory

[left moth]

the basics of pld gauge is it fills with auto attacks, and you spend it on shelltron, intervention and cover in increments of 50

[dry tree]

@gritty oracle How do we find this code? (i've been playing for a while, its for a friend of mine)

[tulip plover]

What is that reward thing at login?

[white gorge]

oh

ye i know about that

[limpid lantern]

Thats it ? Thats way less than i expected

[white gorge]

moving the character folder and character files right?

[wintry chasm]

@dry tree https://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/special/friend_recruit/

Press "recruit now" to generate a recruitment code

[white gorge]

problem is that, that's prior to the UI save

so it only has my characters saved but not my UI

[analog gate]

What is that reward thing at login?
@tulip plover https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/playguide/option_service/veteran_rewards/

[left moth]

Kaspel: yeah that's the manual methof (character folder in mygames or whereever it is inside my documents)

[simple shore]

I mean, there should literally be a file inside the character folder that has that

[white gorge]

aight lemme hceck

[simple shore]

I cant imagine the trial somehow uses a different file

[white gorge]

ye it has alright

but the folder says

date modified: 7/31/2020

[left moth]

it's the same basic thing in trial, paid version, and the benchmark (to create character appearance presets)

[simple shore]

Yeah and?

[white gorge]

which means that's the UI when i first made my character

not the present

[left moth]

should be a folder named FFXIV_CHR[lot of numbers]

[white gorge]

also i did that too actually

saved my cahracters before dling the pc windows version free trial

the UI reverted everything to default

[dry tree]

When first starting the game, does it matter which world I select?

[simple shore]

Yes

[white gorge]

feelsbad for free tiral ;;;

[simple shore]

Picking a preferred server gives a massive EXP bonus

[dry tree]

those are the ones with the stars next to them?

[analog gate]

date modified for the folder is the time the folder is created/renamed, not considering the contents
try looking at the contents and see if their date modified is later than that

[simple shore]

that lasts for 3 months or until it stops being preferred - whichever comes last

Been awhile since i looked. I think its the ones with the stars? Though i think there's more indicating it than just that. To see a list, go here -

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/worldstatus/

[wintry chasm]

Starred servers in character creation are preferred yes

[simple shore]

Which datacenter you pick matters too, but given that you've already tagged as Aether i assume you've already made that decision.

[limpid lantern]

And with massive it is REALLY massive. It doubles your exp gain and also doubles any bonus you get in the game.

[white gorge]

aight ill check

yup

there's this notepad called UI Save

and it says the same old date

;;;

[simple shore]

I'm convinced you're looking in the wrong folder.

[white gorge]

welp

wait

[simple shore]

the FFXIV_CHR0000000000000 etc. is a unique identifier for that specific character

So if you had the UI set up properly on trial on a character on trial, you should be able to simply move the files from its matching folder on trial to its new folder on not-trial

[nova umbra]

Will there be new high-end duty raids in 5.3? Will edenchoir stuff still be bis?

[simple shore]

There's no reasonable explanation why your UI would be "not saved"

[wintry chasm]

The character folder is in documents -> my games -> XIV

[simple shore]

@nova umbra No

[obsidian patio]

max ilvl is not increasing in 5.3

[white gorge]

ye that's where im looking at

FFXIV_CHR00400000026E7A2D

this is the folder

the only folder

[nova umbra]

how long usually until the ilvl is increased?

[white gorge]

;;;

[obsidian patio]

it happens every even patch

[nova umbra]

so 5.4 we'll get e9-e12

[obsidian patio]

so in 5.4, AKA ~3.5 months after 5.3 comes out assuming there's no delay again

yep

[nova umbra]

okay, thanks 🙂

[white gorge]

just believe me, ui doesn't get saved on free trial ;;; u can even experiment bro

feels really bad

[simple shore]

I dont believe you.

[white gorge]

aight

[analog gate]

that folder only has one file inside?

[obsidian patio]

say, are you still currently logged in your character?

because i don't think the folder updates until you log out

[simple shore]

That's accurate, yeah

[obsidian patio]

you can also try forcefully updating other parts of the file which should make the ui part update

[obsidian patio]

like gearsets, keybinds, or macros

[white gorge]

ye still doesnt update

7/31/2020

[obsidian patio]

Are you logging out and exiting the launcher?

[white gorge]

yep

[simple shore]

The modified date isnt a factor

[white gorge]

actually i already restarted my pc

well the UI doesn't carry over and that's too hard to prove lmao

[simple shore]

I mean, there's almost certainly a solution that involves something you're doing being incorrect.

There's no way that they would make the way that the files saved be different between clients. it would be senseless in terms of coding.

[noble pollen]

Controller players here?

[white gorge]

i dunno ask square enix. they made it this way lol

[obsidian patio]

o/

[white ether]

Can’t you buy mounts and outfits at the gold saucer?

[white gorge]

free trial ppl can't save their ui

just their character appearance from the start

[obsidian patio]

yes

[white ether]

Where are those venders at?

[obsidian patio]

by the mini cactpot person

[noble pollen]

How do you add the extra bars on top? I went through 80% of this game not knowing lol

[obsidian patio]

or about x5, y7

[white gorge]

UI is client-side right?

[obsidian patio]

Character config > hotbar settings > the last 3 sub categories should have stuff about the WXHB, which is what that is.

[simple shore]

Yes

[nova umbra]

So I'm not trying to sound salty, but I just want to know what I can do to find a good group for savage raids. So I've been stuck in e6s for a few weeks now. I know the fight in and out, I don't make any mistakes usually, but I just can't find a group that can even get to conflag consistently. I put my PF up with [Duty Completion] and with the description of something like, "Clear party, know the fight please. DPS West, TH East. Soccer uptime". It's like I'm fighting myself to find a good group instead of fighting the boss, since everyone else has cleared and moved on and all the good people have put their instances behind [Duty Completed]. What can I do to find a good group to end this hell? Is it my PF description? Do I have to resort to picking out the few good people I can find in each group and making a static?

am I just too late to the party?

[little swift]

it might be good to advertise that you're just after the clear and don't care about the chests

[white gorge]

welp there u have it. my client settings don't get saved cuz free trial and paid client are different

that's why my UI doesn't get saved too

[simple shore]

You're wrong, but whatever.

[nova umbra]

does that usually attract people who have already cleared?

[white gorge]

bruh

i think ur misinformed but u dont know it

[simple shore]

@nova umbra Welcome to Savage prog late in the tier. You're going to have to sift through alot of....issues. That said, you can try to be pickier about who you run with.

[little swift]

your mileage definitely may vary on that front

[nova umbra]

how am I mis informed?

[white gorge]

and here i am already telling u ui doesnt get saved on free trial

@nova umbra im talking to balmerick

[nova umbra]

oh

[white gorge]

well whatever im gonna go paly now lol

[nova umbra]

so I should start kicking people who keep making mistakes in the runs?

[white gorge]

thanks anyway bros

[noble pollen]

So you just apply WXHB?

[little swift]

i think you're being overcritical of others and not really seeing the areas where you could also improve

maybe you're also making a mistake that you're not clearly identifying

[nova umbra]

I mean, I'm not getting hit by anything, I'm doing all the mechanics

groups just straight up can't get to conflag for some reason

[obsidian patio]

yes mea

[noble pollen]

Ty wynne always soo helpful

[obsidian patio]

don't forget to also set what hotbar sets and sides you want it to take from

[agile laurel]

it is a fact that most people who wanted to clear in this tier, have done

[noble pollen]

And how do i use it l2 and R2?

[nova umbra]

I'm scared of kicking people because idk, that seems kind of toxic

[agile laurel]

So you are dealing with those who, for whatever reason, still couldn't

[little swift]

are oyu communicating after wipes?

explaining whats going on?

[obsidian patio]

You double-tap L2 or R2 to access them

[little swift]

impatience will definitely impact your progress

[simple shore]

@nova umbra Realistically, it sounds like the problem you're facing is that alot of people are joining "Duty Completion" who really ought to be joining "Practice".

[obsidian patio]

you can also calibrate the tightness of the timing to avoid potential misuse

[agile laurel]

hardly toxic, fact of life. If people lied about meeting your group criteria, get em out

[nova umbra]

yes that is one of the issues, but you can't really do anything about that can you

until you do a few runs and identify them

[little swift]

setting it as a practice party will yield better results as well from my personal experience

since people actually want to learn usually

though you'll always get bad eggs no matter how you set it up

you're definitely not alone on your late tier progging

i'm with you on that front

[nova umbra]

I've been so annoyed that I can't get this clear when i think this fight is easier than fulmination that I've been tempted to just put up 500k for each person in the description if we clear

[noble pollen]

Wait i cant access it, did i input something wrong or i forgot something?

[simple shore]

@white gorge Did you copy the entire folders contents, or just one file?

[little swift]

a lot of this fight can be visually overwhelming compared to fulmination

[white gorge]

entire folder

[simple shore]

because "UISAVE.DAT" is ..... nonsense and not your UI.

[little swift]

which can make the mechanics more challenging to maneuver

[white gorge]

even the extra blank white files

rn im doing trial and error

[simple shore]

ADDON.DAT + HOTBAR.DAT is your UI, more or less.

[white gorge]

of deleting my character folders

and readding them

[obsidian patio]

@noble pollen set it to always display

[white gorge]

ok uh

[noble pollen]

Oooooh lol ty, srry ty wynne

[white gorge]

gonna find em ok

[arctic holly]

So I've been waiting almost and hour to get into palace of the dead and it says average wait time is 7 mins and like I just wanna know if my game is glitched or sumthin

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[obsidian patio]

what floor set are you trying to queue for?

[arctic holly]

31-40 I'm tryna get to 51-60 since someone said it's good exp

[obsidian patio]

floors 11-50 have longer queue times since most people spam 1-10 and 51-60.

it's also a very dead time of day for the US, being the middle of the night

[arctic holly]

I just woke up not that long ago lol

Fek

[simple shore]

Yes. 5AM-7AM EST is probably the most dead period of time in FF14 on NA

[narrow gale]

Would like a (recruit a friend) on Primal ~ Leviathan plz DM me anytime 🙂 ❤️

[arctic holly]

Welp guess I'll watch a movie cuz it seems I'll be here for a while

[white ether]

What’s the best mini game to earn mp

[simple shore]

idk, minigames are all pretty bad. why do you ask?

[arctic holly]

Wait you're able to increase your mp?

[simple shore]

He means MGP

[frank ridge]

MGP?*

[arctic holly]

Mgp?

[white ether]

I’m trying to get a mount and wanted to try the gold sauser

Yeah

[frank ridge]

Weekly Fashion Report is pretty good for MGP

[heady flare]

you could probably get a party for it thru PF tho

[simple shore]

minigames are probably the worst source.

[obsidian patio]

the mining/botany minigames are actually pretty decent once you get the hang of them

[white ether]

What’s a consistent way of getting mpg then?

[simple shore]

I'd say until the 11th the best thing to do is go farm irregular tomestones

[frank ridge]

That too

[obsidian patio]

don't forget your challenge log too

bunch of free weekly MGP from there

[white ether]

Where are challenge logs are?

[leaden ginkgo]

if average wait time is <15 mins and ive been on queue for an hour....should i just requeue or wait it out

[simple shore]

Daily cactpot as well. If you dont know the "correct" way to do it, use this tool :

https://super-aardvark.github.io/yuryu/

[obsidian patio]

the challenge log is a big collection of weekly things you can do for experience, gil, and MGP

[simple shore]

@leaden ginkgo queue for what?

[white gorge]

@simple shore aight so

[obsidian patio]

you unlock it from the sidequest "Rising to the Challenge" in limsa lominsa's adventurer's guild

[white gorge]

i found out

that the UI resets the moment you delete the folder lmao

readding it doesnt fix the ui back to how u want it

[frank ridge]

rip

[white gorge]

that's what was happening

[steep heron]

Always make a backup

[simple shore]

....well, yeah, deleting the files tends to do that.

[white gorge]

that's why free trial can't save their UI to the official client version

[simple shore]

That's still wrong though.

[white gorge]

you're forced to return to defaults

[leaden ginkgo]

crown of the immaculate

[simple shore]

You just....didnt back it up before you purged it.

[noble pollen]

Wynne srry ive tried double tapping L2 or R2 but i still cant access it

[white gorge]

now im gonna fix my ui again after this test lol

what do u mean back it up?

[frank ridge]

Make a copy of it

Put it somewhere

[obsidian patio]

set the timer higher, a lower timer means you must double tap faster to access it

[simple shore]

As in, you could have gone and picked up and copied that folder somewhere before you did the install of the full client.

[white gorge]

what i did

that's the exact same folder

before i installed the full client

[obsidian patio]

and just to be certain, but you are doing L2>L2 or R2>R2, right? 😛

[white gorge]

look what i did was

Delete my CHR folder, and readded it

that's it

result was

the UI reverted to default

[simple shore]

@leaden ginkgo Immaculate is going to have a pretty meh queue regardless because of the nature of what it is.

[noble pollen]

Yes lol

[white gorge]

making a manual back up doesnt do anything lol

[noble pollen]

Ive tried the lowest or highest :/ still cant lol

[white gorge]

this really suggests that

the only way to save your UI is at the character select screen at the back up button

which free trial can't do

[frank ridge]

No? I use it all the damn time

[simple shore]

Dont bother Stormcaster

[white gorge]

free trial can't do that

[frank ridge]

I copied my main's UI to my alt's

[simple shore]

He's been on about this for over an hour

[frank ridge]

That's without the backup system

[white gorge]

i was on this for over an hour cuz u wouldnt believe me balmerick lol

and im already telling you info and u wont believe it lol

[simple shore]

@leaden ginkgo TL;DR you're looking at a thing where the only real potential candidates for joining your group are :
People who are in the same boat as you
People running Trials roulette on a level 80 job

Given the time of day and the narrow pool.....yeah, your queue is gonna be bad.

[white gorge]

now ur telling me i didn't back up

feels like ur trolling me from here lmao

[frank ridge]

By "readding" what do you mean? Create a same name folder?

[white gorge]

no i just moved the folder

[steep heron]

Looks like you're both memeing each other a bit

[white gorge]

also when you wanna go from free trial to the legit official client

ur forced to delete the FFXIV folder in My games

so the process was the same thing

[leaden ginkgo]

@simple shore ayt thanks, was just surprised it reached an hour since i did titania around the same time and queue was rly fast

[simple shore]

Titania pulls from people who are 73+. Lots more people queueing 73+ trials roulettes than 80's.

If that makes sense

[white gorge]

free trial can't save UI feels bad

[leaden ginkgo]

here i was thinking it was the music in titania that made people queue up lol

[simple shore]

Hah

[steep heron]

Being forced to manually delete a folder seems like a very strange thing to require for the game install.
I don't remember doing that but it's been years since I went from trial to full

[leaden ginkgo]

speaking of music, whats the music and can you get a roll of it whenever u engage stuff in shb dungeon?

[simple shore]

I mean, SHB dungeons all have their own music

[white gorge]

Looks like you're both memeing each other a bit
@steep heron im being memed on ;;; welp this was a fun experiment tho

[simple shore]

not sure what you mean

[leaden ginkgo]

ops i meant mt.gulg

[white gorge]

@steep heron ye u gotta delete FFXIV folder in my games to mvoe from free trial to legit official

that's what i did to fix my client

when i moved from steam to pc windows free trial

it even says on the website

i feel like im the most knowledgable rn about whether u can move UIs from free to subscription lol

[simple shore]

That seems vastly unlikely.

[steep heron]

You moved from steam to stand a lone?
Yeah that might mess things up. Spaghetti code and all that.

[vocal shell]

@leaden ginkgo if you’re talking about mt gulg’s music, you get the roll in mt gulg too

[white gorge]

ye

[heady flare]

You can't move from Steam to standalone

[white gorge]

^ uh i dont wanna explain anymore how i did it lmao

glhf bros

[simple shore]

Ya'll are coming on the tail half of something. Its not "Steam to Standalone". Its not worth debating, Kaspel just wants to complain.

[leaden ginkgo]

ohh if its ran with trusts is there a chance to get music rolls or nah?

[white gorge]

no im not lol

[simple shore]

@leaden ginkgo yes you can get all loot in Trust mode.

[obsidian patio]

yeah you can still get music rolls and minions with trusts

[frank ridge]

I got Anamnesis's roll the first time with Trusts >_>

[simple shore]

In fact, if you're specifically after the music/minions, Trust would be the smartest way to go.

[leaden ginkgo]

okay thanks for the help everyone gonna spam mtgulg for that music

[warped nest]

Take note that dungeons with trust produce do less reward because you are the only player in it

[simple shore]

Music drops independently. Trust, as far as I am aware, only reduces by a set amount of drops (i.e. 1 gear piece instead of 2 gear piece)

[steep heron]

But you get all the loot.

[simple shore]

Yes. If you're specifically after music as far as i am aware Trust does not lower chances of it dropping.

[white gorge]

welp gonna go fix my ui settings again thanks for trying to help bros

[gritty oracle]

You can still copy out the folder with your UI settings in it, and later paste it back

[white gorge]

nah doesnt work ui resets to default

the moment u move it out the FFXIV folder

tried it already

[simple shore]

That's completely false, but hey, whatever.

[white gorge]

pls dont misinform

lol

[simple shore]

I have moved UI settings many many times, and the idea of "the moment you move it the UI resets" is ridiculous.

[white gorge]

that's cuz im on free trial

free trial users have their ui reset the moment u move anything in the FFXIV folder

dunno why but that's how it do

should i even send a video recording?

lol

[steep heron]

[jade quartz]

I don’t believe that’s accurate at all

[simple shore]

You can do whatever you want, i dont believe a single piece of what you're saying, because some fundamental aspect is wrong. Either you didnt back up your stuff before the reinstall purged it all, or you're sourcing the files from the wrong location.

Like, the files havent changed in years

[jade quartz]

The data for free trial users’ UIs is stored in the same format as full version users’.

[white gorge]

i can send a vid recording bro

if it helps

u feel better

[simple shore]

I once restored UI settings from....like 3 years departed from current version

and they worked

[jade quartz]

It is likely you’ve made a mistake with replacing the wrong file or into the wrong directory

[white gorge]

man whatever lol

just ask me for vid recording if u guys want

really simple to prove but man putting me through this lol

[limpid lantern]

You lose oath guage on loadig screen ?

[jade quartz]

Yes

[mortal ice]

why does the story quest make you do dungeons with 3 other people?

[simple shore]

because that's how the game works?

[heady flare]

cause the game is an MMO

[gritty oracle]

You lose all gauges and other class resources on loading screen. Sometimes. Sometimes not. It's kinda weird.

[simple shore]

not really sure what you're looking for here

[jade quartz]

This is a multiplayer game

[mortal ice]

sitting in queue for 30 mins

[heady flare]

MMO mean Massively Multiplayer

[jade quartz]

It’s the central gameplay

[simple shore]

Its also the most dead part of the day, Mightyguy

[heady flare]

what are you queuing for?

[simple shore]

Like this is by far the worst time of day to be queueing for anything

[mortal ice]

bowl of ember

cuz story is a thing

[heady flare]

consider using PF

[arctic holly]

Holy crap I've been in queue for almost 2 hours

[gritty oracle]

I'd say just continue queuing because people can load into bowl of embers from leveling and trial roulette

[heady flare]

if you're doing Bowl of EMbers for story you can easily find someone thru PF to unsync you thru it

[simple shore]

6AM EST. East coasters are mostly not awake yet. West coasters have mostly gone to sleep. Pretty much a deadzone for NA datacenters.

[arctic holly]

Are there other ways of leveling up fast that doesn't involve me running through the story like a mad man

Now I'm doing palace of the dead

[gritty oracle]

You'll need the story anyways

[proud willow]

^

[lime geode]

Peak time for Australia!

[jade quartz]

Continue the main story

[simple shore]

MSQ isnt optional.

[gritty oracle]

Everything is unlocked through main story

[jade quartz]

You can’t progress in the game without it

[proud willow]

Leveling up without having MSQ completion will do you no good

[jade quartz]

It should be your priority.

[arctic holly]

I am aware

[tulip plover]

Can you do potd at lvl 4

[simple shore]

Yeah like, you could be level 80 character, but if your MSQ is 15.....yeah, you cant do shit.

[jade quartz]

There is no point leveling without it

[arctic holly]

I just want to get the new jobs

[jade quartz]

As you won’t be able to access any higher-level content.

[arctic holly]

And then play the story after I get them

[jade quartz]

You won’t be able to use most of their kits

[heady flare]

you have to get ot certain parts in the story forthe jobs as well

[jade quartz]

Strongly recommend you continue the story as normal.

[gritty oracle]

That being said, you should keep a comfortable 4-5 level ahead of the MSQ to make kill quests easier and not aggro half the zone every time you pass through. I suggest running a leveling roulette every couple days or so @arctic holly

[arctic holly]

I can play samurai red mage and dancer through levelibg

The thing is I don't want to skip the story just to level

[jade quartz]

You don’t have to skip the story

[simple shore]

But why would you have to skip the story "just to level"?

[jade quartz]

Just play the story normally

[simple shore]

That doesnt make sense

[heady flare]

Im pretty sure you still have to clear ARR to unlock RDM and SAM

[arctic holly]

Subscription

[simple shore]

That still doesnt make sense

[jade quartz]

You don’t @heady flare

[simple shore]

What are you talking about?

[limpid lantern]

@heady flare no only HW classes need stoey progress

[arctic holly]

Yeah

SB and shb don't need story complete

[heady flare]

ah ok i thought you needed story progress

[arctic holly]

The jobs I mean

[limpid lantern]

What does a sub have to do with skipping story to level ?

[jade quartz]

But yeah I don’t understand any of what you’re saying

[wintry chasm]

I do

[simple shore]

Oh, nvm, i remember this story from earlier. You're the one who is....half-in-half-out on subscribing.

[wintry chasm]

Sounds like they just want the jobs now so they can play through the story as them for RP?

Ish

[arctic holly]

No I would pay the subscription if I could

[heady flare]

wait

you dont have a sub?

[vocal shell]

no i think he’s trying to make the most of his sub time

[arctic holly]

Yeah what siren said

[obsidian patio]

@tulip plover yes

[simple shore]

Just stating for the record again.....if paying the sub is something that is a financial hardship, i'd strongly suggest not playing a sub based game. Life advice stuff.

[arctic holly]

And I have the expansions do if I can't play the expansions the least I want to do is use the jobs

[hasty musk]

Then playing the story would be by far the most efficient use of your time, yeah?

[heady flare]

i dont think queueingfor POTD is the way to make the most of your sub time

[obsidian patio]

you do need to unlock it first though, which requires about level 17 in the story

[gritty oracle]

Don't speed through the story, it's a damn good story.

[jade quartz]

You will reach those jobs faster by playing through the story than anything else.

[wintry chasm]

That's...not true Lyon tbh

[arctic holly]

I'm in the level 30 in the story through skipping and I already regret it

[wintry chasm]

Main story isn't bad for XP but it's not nearly as good as raw grinding

[jade quartz]

Leveling methods that don’t use MSQ are taking into account armouryexp bonus

[arctic holly]

So that's why I'm tryna level in different ways

[heady flare]

what did you skip?

[jade quartz]

So they’re half-speed

[gritty oracle]

@arctic holly You can "replay" the MSQ via new game+, it's gonna include arr from aug 11 when 5.3 drops

[arctic holly]

I have the expansions already

Oh

Wait I read that wrong

[simple shore]

Either way, none of these answers are addressing the core issue. He's got the free time from buying the game, but cant sub (for whatever reason - that hasnt been specified i dont think). I dont really think any scenario is going to end with a good result here.

[arctic holly]

So I can skip it and then "replay" it when the patch comes out?

[gritty oracle]

Also from aug 11 free trial is gonna include HW and go up to level 60, so if you're seriously strapped on money, you could open another trial account and play it at your own pace, without worrying about subscription price.

[hasty musk]

Basically, but skipping the story really isn't recommended

[heady flare]

arastal, is what balmerick said accurate? you bought the game and are playign with time but cant sub? the patch isnt oging to let you play on the free trial just fyi

[arctic holly]

I'll try to avoid skipping the story unless there isn't another way for me to level

[heady flare]

if youve bought the game you cant play on free trial

[arctic holly]

Yeah but I have the expansions bought so

Since they where on sale

[jade quartz]

Your current strategy of spamming PotD or dungeons is the best other option

However it’s only half as effective as it is on alt classes that level after already having leveled through the story with your first job

[heady flare]

you dont need to buy a story skip

[arctic holly]

Well potd time expired is 60 mins and that my forth tune re setting the queue

[heady flare]

if you want to play the story as rdm/sam/dnc just buy the job skip for one of them

[limpid lantern]

For your first character there isnt anything as good as leveling through the story except buying a lvl boost

[jade quartz]

Don’t reset the queue

[simple shore]

Resetting a queue does nothing

[jade quartz]

That will only hurt you

But yes it’s dead hours

It’s like 6am

[arctic holly]

Know I just thought my game was glitched

[jade quartz]

No ones playing especially on low PotD floors

[heady flare]

if i recall you're also queing for likefloor 40?

[arctic holly]

31-40

[jade quartz]

Since the leveling method is spamming 50–60

[arctic holly]

I'm tryna get to 50

Floor

[heady flare]

what DC are you on?

[jade quartz]

Honestly I can’t recommend strongly enough that you just play through the story at your own rate

[simple shore]

TL;DR he's trying to burn his way through the game using the only time he has. I assume that he cant/wont sub for (unknown reasons), and is skipping all story content (i.e. skipping CS, spamming past text) because it eats sub time. I dont really see any of this ending well.

[jade quartz]

No skipping or anything

And reorganise your priorities

[stable herald]

I am assuming Dia and Glare replace my previous skills for WHM?

[arctic holly]

I'm trying to avoid skipping anymore of the game that's why I'm tryna grind exp

[jade quartz]

Unlocking those jobs earlier is kinda meaningless because you won’t be able to play any fun content with them

[heady flare]

i mean i get having limited time. i just dont think spamming potd as a newbie is a good way to play the game personaly

[simple shore]

@stable herald correct

[jade quartz]

You don’t have to skip

Just don’t skip

Play the story

[hasty musk]

Then don't skip and get to 50 whenever you get there

[simple shore]

He's going to skip if he plays story for the reasons i specified, i imagine.

[jade quartz]

And put these other considerations out of your mind

[simple shore]

I dont really understand the logic, but it is what it is.

[gritty oracle]

DIA replaces Aero and Glare replaces Stone @stable herald

[stable herald]

but im not sure where can i put the Afflatus skills

[jade quartz]

I would say you’re just wasting your time by doing non-enjoyable grinding

[stable herald]

Since im not sure how.. i dunoe, how frequent I get to use the Afflatus skils

[jade quartz]

You’d have gotten farther in this time by playing story normally

[arctic holly]

Well I know I can't play the expansions cause I have to get through story but I also want to play the classes that got added with them

[jade quartz]

Just play the story and wait until you can play those classes.

[heady flare]

why cant you just play the jobs that you have access to?

until you get to them

[hasty musk]

We get that, but they can't possibly be that important that you'd ignore actual progression for the sake of wanting to play those first

[jade quartz]

You’re not going to get more enjoyment out of your time by rushing

[gritty oracle]

Afflatus skills are spells that use lilies, a resource you accumulate through just being in combat. The regular lily spells are Solace and Rapture, healing spells, and they nourish the blood lily. When the blood lily is fully nourished, you can use misery, which is a damage nuke spell.

[simple shore]

@stable herald

put Afflatus Misery dead center of your screen on a 800% scaled up hotbar button BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD LILY

Although in all seriousness, you will be using Afflatus very heavily, so you want those to be in a convenient location

[onyx kiln]

Reached cap for all DoH classes and was wondering if the custom deliveries still gives you yellow scrips for turn ons or if they just give white ones now

[simple shore]

Most dungeons on WHM it will be like, half of the heals you actually bother casting.

[obsidian patio]

they give both

[vocal shell]

It gives both white and yellow iirc

[onyx kiln]

Okay

[jade quartz]

Afflatus solace basically replaces cure 2

And rapture replaces medica

[simple shore]

Cure 2 pretty much never gets cast again unless the tank is bad at rotating CD's or its a particularly nasty wall to wall.

in dungeons, at least

[jade quartz]

Can only use them when the timer comes up but you ideally shouldn’t need them more than that anyway

[gritty oracle]

As whm, if I don't have lilies available but I need to weave, should I just start refreshing aero or regen to get weaving spaces?

[upbeat sentinel]

hello! i'm a on&off again player with a question about auto-demolition of housing, i saw that SE disabled it for now, but has there been any news on when it'll be back on?

[jade quartz]

No

[gritty oracle]

Not as far as I know

[simple shore]

@upbeat sentinel We have no idea

[jade quartz]

You just have to clip your GCDs

[simple shore]

If i were to take a guess, i dont predict it coming back this year.

[solar surge]

What does the magicked prism (job mastery) do?

[jade quartz]

It’s a single-use firework

[simple shore]

@solar surge fills you with sadness for getting it.

[solar surge]

Ahh okay, thank you

[jade quartz]

Puts stars above your head for a few seconds

[upbeat sentinel]

great thanks! just wanted to be sure, cause i almost got auto demolished earlier this year cause as for some reason the notification email didn't get delivered

[simple shore]

I mean, you should try to keep apprised of the goings ons. i wouldnt count on predictions from here to tell you whether or not it will come back.

[stable herald]

but for real, so far, once I got my Lilies, I've RARELY used Cure II. BUT im just concerned if I get throw into a low level dungeon, it'll really be up shit's creek

[simple shore]

Low level dungeons feel pretty shitty on WHM after you have the full kit, tbh

[frank ridge]

If the main tank doesn't have Regen I'll regen him to weave stuff. But again I don't really put regen on them back to back

[simple shore]

Healing without lillies is horrible once you have had them

[jade quartz]

If you have to use cure II something’s gone pretty badly wrong

[stable herald]

im also looking into how often I actually get lilies

[frank ridge]

cries in Brayflox

[jade quartz]

And I have quite literally never had to use medica

[simple shore]

Medica is....useful for like

One fight

in the whole game

Titan Normal if you have crap DPS

lol

[stable herald]

like, do i keep the skills on a close-by key or not, ya know?

i've.. i've kinda regularly used Medica I and II in boss fights..

[frank ridge]

I put it next to Tetra

[stable herald]

like pre-AoE or just post

[simple shore]

@stable herald So, for certain buttons like that where its just completely outdated, i do a similar thing for BLM and AST, as well as WHM. I dump them on a non-keybinded hotbar and swap them with another skill if i get into some terrible level sync'd location which limits my kit.

[gritty oracle]

I recommend mapping your healing toolkit so it's healer universal
For example, put medica 1 where you would put Helios on AST or Succor on scholar. Etcetera.

[jade quartz]

Lilies are generated every 30 seconds while in combat @stable herald

[stable herald]

Blood lilies, I mean. Sorry.

i've just gotten to 70

so im just reading about the skills

[simple shore]

i.e. i have Blizz 1 dumped on a side bar ready to be swapped with Blizz 3 on BLM if i get sent to the purgatory that is Sastasha.

[jade quartz]

Blood lily is nourished every time you use a lily heal

After three lily heals it’s max size

And you can use misery

[simple shore]

Then you press Misery and do better DPS than DPS do on trash.

Double Misery + Holy Spam will outclass alot of players

[frank ridge]

Mostly of the time Holy spam already deals more damage than DPSs

[gritty oracle]

Holy is like RDM level visual damage tho

[frank ridge]

🤔

[jade quartz]

This doesn’t mean you should go out of your way to use more Lily gcd heals in order to get more misery casts

Because it’s technically a dps loss

But unfortunately you have to use GCD heals sometimes

So the misery is a bit of a consolation prize

[stable herald]

Oh. So in that case, should I NOT keep regen up in pulls?

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[jade quartz]

?? Huh?

No

[valid pecan]

How long does it take to complete heavensward (cutscenes included)

[stable herald]

like, yea, start with a regen, but im propping the tank up with Lily heals after that in between Holy

[simple shore]

When running dungeons, its a pretty good idea to try and build up a Misery during a boss, so you have it for trash

[jade quartz]

Ideally you don’t have to use either if you have enough oGCDs

[stable herald]

Maybe my runs have been skewed? I've rarely needed to do Lily heals in pulls, actually

Like, i keep Regen up and keep casting Holy

[frank ridge]

You haven't met THOSE pulls huh

Where Asylum and Regen are not enough

[simple shore]

If you can heal purely through Regen and Holy spam, thats usually the mark of very high DPS + a tank who knows what they're doing. OR they arent wall to walling.

[jade quartz]

Regen is a more potent heal than solace

[gritty oracle]

@valid pecan Like a couple weeks if you play it semi casually and properly (doing every cutscene). Longer if you're only casual.

[simple shore]

its pretty much expected on average levelling wall to walls that you'll need to burn tetra and possibly lillies on top of regen/asylum/assize

[stable herald]

Tetra -> Lilies -> Cure II
On top of regen, assize on CD
correct?

[nova umbra]

if I change my fisher retainer to botany, do they go back to level 1?

[simple shore]

Yes, they reset

[vocal shell]

yes

[jade quartz]

Don’t forget benediction

[stable herald]

I dunoe. I've seen a couple of dumbasses, but the only time I started to sweat as a WHM was when dumbassery ensues

[jade quartz]

And asylum

[simple shore]

@stable herald Asylum as well. Dont underestimate how much that will heal a tank for.

[gritty oracle]

How about divine benison?

[jade quartz]

Use it heaps

[simple shore]

Benison is very good, yes

[analog gate]

use it on CD

[simple shore]

Well, on CD for trash. Use it to mitigate TB's on bosses.

[frank ridge]

You can use it when the tank is running to the other group

[stable herald]

I keep Bene on like "BOI REALLY FUCKING UP" situations

[jade quartz]

Just in case you’re doing this: don’t think of benediction as an “emergency” button

Yeah no

[gritty oracle]

Or when GNB superbolides

[jade quartz]

If you use it more often then you’re getting more uses out of it in a dungeon

[vague relic]

Probably a mad dumb question but is it a good idea to start crystal tower around patch 2.1/2.2 content or should I just wait until late SB/early SHB?

[nova umbra]

are there any consumables that increase gil income?

[jade quartz]

And that’s more efficient

[wintry chasm]

Do it now

[simple shore]

@vague relic do CT series before reaching ShB

[stable herald]

Cuz i mean, so far, I've not needed to Bene since I seem to adequately top tanks to like 90% with Lilies

[wintry chasm]

I highly recommend just doing raids in the expansions they are in rather than waiting till the very end to do them

[gritty oracle]

Wait until you're level 60-ish so you don't aggro half of mor Dhona when going for it

[stable herald]

I think i've just been REALLY lucky

[wintry chasm]

It flows better as a story

[jade quartz]

Benediction is part of your regular toolkit; you can use it optimally by letting a tank drop low without any other healing, and then hitting it

[wintry chasm]

Also you're just unlocking more content faster

[frank ridge]

I think i've just been REALLY lucky
@stable herald I mean JP DCs are kinda better than in NA XD

[wintry chasm]

which is nice for leveling

[little swift]

think about it this way

[simple shore]

CT, in particular, is....fundamentally important to have done before reaching the beginning of ShB

[little swift]

if you save it and never use it

[jade quartz]

I would recommend thinking about it the other way around

[little swift]

why would you have it there

[jade quartz]

Gcd heals are your emergency buttons

[stable herald]

so where is Bene in the list of priorities?

[vague relic]

Thanks!

[simple shore]

Bene exists so that you can spam more holies.

[lime geode]

Is The Orbonne Monastery pretty rough? I just watched a YT vid on it and it looks quite a bit harder than the raids I've done so far.

[jade quartz]

Save them for if you absolutely need them

[little swift]

i'd put bene > tetra > lilies

[jade quartz]

Between your oGCD heals there’s not really a priority system

Just cycle through using them all and they’ll all gradually come back up

[gritty oracle]

@lime geode In Orbonne ask who knows the mechanics, mark them and glue yourself to their butt.

[frank ridge]

Orbonne was fun. And it got f-ing nerfed to the point it's not fun anymore

[little swift]

since bene usage earlier in a fight means more uses overall

[jade quartz]

And hopefully you’ll have something for every pull

[stable herald]

Alright. Thanks friends

[jade quartz]

And not have to resort to your lilies or, as a last resort, Cure II

[lime geode]

Looks crazy - like the first set of raids is a cakewalk. I did the first two in the SB set and died quite a bit but finished em.

[heady flare]

orbonne is a step up in terms of difficulty

even with the nerfs it still can be a little tough

[jade quartz]

Thinking of gcd heals as the real “emergency buttons” is one of the keys to efficient healing

[heady flare]

but its fun too

[simple shore]

Lighthouse was wild when it first came out. That's when we learned the majority of the playerbase couldnt do simple math.

[lime geode]

Well at least I've seen all the mechanics now, so it won't be a surprise 🙂

[velvet reef]

should i dye something before putting it in the glam dressor/armoire?

dresser*

[heady flare]

no you can dye it in the dresser

[lime geode]

Are all the raids out for ShB, or are there more coming?

[gritty oracle]

The huge boss is the hardest, where there's a circular balcony arena and each alliance gets a spot and that's when you gotta ask who knows the mechs in each alliance

[heady flare]

as part of your glaour plate

[stable herald]

Alright. Maybe i'll do some raids or something to work on my healing

[velvet reef]

i mean its an expensive dye

[gritty oracle]

4 are missing

[velvet reef]

i dont want to loseit

lose it*

[gritty oracle]

Each expansion has 12 raids, in three tiers. We currently have two tiers out in ShB.

[simple shore]

@velvet reef you can dye it before, or dye it while its inside. Just dont dye it on the plate, if you are certain you will always use that color on it.

[velvet reef]

thank you

[lime geode]

12 raids? Oh including 8 man?

[simple shore]

Dye on the plate = It will only ever apply to that plate, and if you ever overwrite that plate, the dye is gone

[gritty oracle]

12 8-man raids, 3 24-man

[jade quartz]

8 man raids are the main raid content

[gaunt brook]

Is there any way to see what date you created a character on aside from checking your documents, im trying to see which hotbar is for my main character as i want to copy it but ive got a few useless ones in there

[jade quartz]

As the savage versions of them are the actual higher-challenge content that raiders look forward to and play

[lime geode]

I have a feeling I'm missing a bunch

[simple shore]

@gaunt brook trying to ID which folder in your install is the correct one?

[gaunt brook]

yeah

[left cedar]

Is there a reason to do the level 80 and expert roulettes?

Also what is the difference between them?

[gritty oracle]

Tomestones

[gaunt brook]

i just dont know which is which since i made a few characters around the same dates

[vocal shell]

Allegory

[jade quartz]

The eight-man raid series are Coils of Bahamut, Alexander, Omega and Eden

[gritty oracle]

80 is all 80 dungeons, expert is the last two dungeons that have come out afaik

[jade quartz]

Expert roulette is the basic source of endgame tomestones

[lime geode]

Ah nice, i have 5 of bahumut only 🙂

[left cedar]

Are they worth doing though? Cuz you get allegory from basically any late-game content, it seems?

[jade quartz]

And only contains the most recent two dungeons

Expert gives 90 allegory per run

[simple shore]

@gaunt brook give me a minute, let me see if i can find a solution for your situation

[gaunt brook]

oh i think i might have come up with one

[jade quartz]

That’s a lot more in one go than anything else except for following a long hunt train

[gaunt brook]

i checked my lodestone and sorted by oldest acheivement

[simple shore]

That's an option

[left cedar]

Oh okay, fair enough

[gritty oracle]

@lime geode Bahamut isn't in the roulette, so you will never get a queue pop for it. Ask your FC to unsync it with you, but don't let them pressure you into skipping cutscenes. It's amazing story that wraps up the whole Bahamut and Louisoix story.

[jade quartz]

That’s only once per day though mind you

[simple shore]

@gaunt brook another thing you could do.....is log into that character, make a change to its UI, and then exit the game. Then look in each CHR folder for the files last updated timestamps

Whichever one is most recent, ought to be the CHR you're after

[jade quartz]

Or just make a party finder saying “running coils unsync with Poetics bonus, watching all cutscenes”

[gaunt brook]

ooo thats a good one

[simple shore]

I regularly join those and curbstomp coil for people for free poetics.

[gritty oracle]

When 5.3 drops, will allegory be the new phantasmagoria and phantasmagoria be outdated? What will happen to deepshadow gear? Poetics?

[jade quartz]

No

[wintry chasm]

hunt currency

also 5.4

[heady flare]

the music in the bahamut raids is pretty good

[wintry chasm]

not 5.3

[jade quartz]

New tomestone tier won’t be until 5.4

[gritty oracle]

Ah

[charred rain]

are poetics worth farming?

[gritty oracle]

So it's a good idea to start stockpiling allegory

Yes

[wintry chasm]

deepshadow would be hunt currency gear, phanta can be converted to allegory at a bad exchange rate and you got the rest

[charred rain]

and if yes for what

[simple shore]

@gaunt brook Take a look inside Common.dat - that should point you towards some settings that you could easily change and cause the file to update

[jade quartz]

If you have something to buy with them yes

[wintry chasm]

you can stockpile phanta too for exchange

[heady flare]

poetics are how you get a lot of low level gear when leveling jobs

[charred rain]

you buy gear or mats?

[jade quartz]

I.e. best gear for any alt jobs at 50/60/70

[gritty oracle]

@charred rain The main uses for poetics is leveling gear (for 50, 60 and 70, it will last until halfway into the next expansion), and relics (glamour)

[jade quartz]

Stuff for anima weapon glamour

Or current 80 relics

Or else just materials to sell for gil

[simple shore]

You also need 1000 poetics per relic weapon first step in ShB for everything after your first job.

[jade quartz]

We have a guide with ideas on what to spend them on

!faq poetics

[zinc orbit]

What should I spend my Poetics on? How do I get more?

Text guide on what to spend Tomestones of Poetics on

Video guide on how to get more Tomestones of Poetics

[charred rain]

nice

btw i am getting 200 for a run

is this one time only?

[lime geode]

@gritty oracle Thanks - unsync means run at the normal lvl?

[jade quartz]

No

Run without level sync

[lime geode]

If I have Bahamut turn 1-5, does that mean I've done them or just that they're available? I know with Alexander I had to do them in order.

I would have done then a month or more ago - don't really remember it 🙂

[jade quartz]

I.e. level 80s can join the level 50 fights and curbstomp them

[lime geode]

Ah ic

That's an option when you start it?

[jade quartz]

Just means they’re available

[heady flare]

you clear them then unlock the next tier

[jade quartz]

Yes, for any content 70 and under.

[lime geode]

Yeah, so I must have done 1-5.

[simple shore]

No, thats incorrect

[jade quartz]

It’s called “undersized party” in duty finder options.

[simple shore]

When you unlock each tier of coil

You unlock all of them at once

[lime geode]

Can I solo them at lvl 73? or I need a group?

[simple shore]

You are not forced to do Coil in order. So you should look on each one and see if you have a green checkmark on the picture.

[jade quartz]

You can tell which fights you’ve cleared by the green tick-mark in the image banner for that fight in the duty finder window

[lime geode]

Ah, no green checks! Thanks.

[simple shore]

@lime geode first coil should be soloable at 73. There's no chance in hell you'll solo Nael at 73 though.

[jade quartz]

Technically you can just skip to the final fight of each tier to unlock the subsequent tier

But the floors before that do also have some story

And rewards poetics of course

[lime geode]

How do I start it by myself? Party finder?

[simple shore]

DF

go to the gear in the top left

and then select "undersized party"

[lime geode]

Ah ic

[simple shore]

Then just queue and you'll go in solo

[lime geode]

ill give it a shot

[simple shore]

Turn 3 / Turn 4 of second coil will be impossible for you solo though, so either come back at 80 (on a DPS job, and preferably 480+ ilvl) or find someone to help

[lime geode]

k

[simple shore]

The turn 4 boss basically has to be burned from ~40% - Dead in the span of like 3-4 seconds.

if you're solo, anyway

if you have even one other person, that doesnt apply

[lime geode]

And the SB 8mans start with into the deltascape?

[simple shore]

That sounds right.

[lime geode]

Do I need to study up on those before the fight?

[heady flare]

sb 8 mans are fun

nah

[simple shore]

Not really

Normal mode is normal mode

[heady flare]

dont spoil normal fights for yourself

[simple shore]

Just queue it in DF normally and get matched with people.

[lime geode]

k - cause the ordonne monastery looks intimidating

[simple shore]

Ordonne is....a bit different

I'd suggest understanding those bosses ahead of time at a basic level.

[lime geode]

Yeah I watched a YT guide.

[simple shore]

Because you can pretty much wipe out your entire group by doing stuff wrong on one of them

[charred rain]

the irregular are for mounts only?

[simple shore]

Mounts, MGP, Minions, Music Scrolls, etc.

You can technically buy riding maps too but dont

[gritty oracle]

Resistance weapon stage 2 is 5.35, correct?

[simple shore]

Yes

[charred rain]

are the allagan tomes a way to buy high gear for people who have not cleared high end raids?

[simple shore]

Kind of? Allegory are the ones that would do that.

But most peoples BIS includes a mixture of upgraded Allegory gear and raid drops

So its not strictly "for people who havent cleared"

[tidal yarrow]

how can I see my penalty of queue?

was watching a cs and notification didn't show up

despite hearing timer I couldn accept

[simple shore]

If you have an active penalty it would show up on DF and not let you queue.

and it would show the timer

If you just "dont take a queue" you dont get penalized unless you do it (i think) 3 times in one day.

[tidal yarrow]

it's my 2nd today I think

[charred rain]

busted

[tidal yarrow]

a friend withdrew this morning and it gave also me penalty I think

[tropic summit]

are crafted fishing baits infinitely re-usable?

[simple shore]

Until something steals it, yes

[tropic summit]

I feel like Desert Dessert Frog is too

but it's an NPC-bought one and I haven't tested it as much

so followup question: is there a way to tell which are re-usable?

[simple shore]

Sometimes when fishing with something like that (ex. Goblin Jig) your line will break and the fish will get away with it.

[tropic summit]

cause oh my god I wasted so much time gathering a ton of mats for Goblin Jigs

[simple shore]

Mostly a factor of common sense.

[tropic summit]

You sayin I'm dumb for not magically knowing that some baits are re-usable and some aren't, especially when I spent about 30 levels using baits that aren't?

Maybe

Maybe fishing is dumb too

[simple shore]

No, no, im saying that its how you figure out which ones are which

i.e.

other than going off of "is this things vendor price higher than most other baits"

[leaden ginkgo]

Are there any other items, that work like Strider Boots?

[simple shore]

just think of it like "is this something the fish will eat, or not"

[wintry chasm]

well, if it's an actual artificial bait it'll last, if it's a bug on a stick it won't

[simple shore]

Clearly you cant re-use a worm

[wintry chasm]

In that sense the baits are pretty common sense

Are there any other items, that work like Strider Boots?
wdym?

[leaden ginkgo]

Items that give an unique bonus when equipped, regardless of usefulness

[tropic summit]

I'd need to confirm but I vaguely remember cages not being re-usable

[simple shore]

Because the contents arent

Its a cage full of flies

[tropic summit]

oh no

I might have wasted a bunch of scrips on Giant Crane Flies too

[simple shore]

giant crane flies are definitely not reusable

[wintry chasm]

some give some xp boosting effects like some preorder items, mogstation items, recruit a friend stuff, and that brand new ring. There are some other pieces of gear that has added stats in Eureka

That's all I can think of Vhy

Least in this current version of the game

[leaden ginkgo]

The stats in Eureka if i recall are Elemental Bonuses, right?

[soft jay]

Hullo really new to savage raiding. Would like to know abt the loot system, specifically for e8s. If 8/8 is the first time for the week, does it guarantee 2 coffers (either weapon or chest), 1 actual weapon(random job), 1 minion and 1 mount? Is my interpretation correct?

[wintry chasm]

Well you can also get haste

[hollow forge]

anyone in jenova witha guild i can join?

[leaden ginkgo]

Mh!

Okydokey

[agile laurel]

Is there any surefire way to identifying bait for a fish you haven't caught before for leves and such, or is the answer just google and suffer?

cause it seems I have a bag full of miscellaneous baits now and it's only getting worse

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[simple shore]

Pretty much google it and find the answer on one of the wikis

Or turn your adblock up to maximum overdrive and go on ff14 angler but uh

really really turn it up to max overdrive because that site has become total cancer

[left moth]

halu: yes if nobody has cleared for the week it'll always drop 2 chests (and one being mount, minion; other being weapon and chest coffer). book always drops one time per fight unless prior ones (5, 6, and 7) were skipped before clearing 8

eden 1-4 (and all old expansion savage) are unlocked so none of that applies limitation wise

it's likely that eden 5-8 will be unlocked in 5.35 because of the timing of 5.4 and new equipment at that point (edit: tome weapons will also be nerfed drop requirements wise, still needs 1000 tomes)

[tidal yarrow]

under what section do I buy emotes on MB?

[lime geode]

wait someone said irregular tomestones can be used for mounts - can I buy mounts somewhere?

[mild ermine]

Whats better, ilevel 460 gathering gear with melds, or ilevel 470 gathering gear ?

[left moth]

yuuko: emotes are usually named Ballroom Etiquette under misc

[tidal yarrow]

shiver at 1kk

[soft jay]

Tks @left moth so the two coffers is 1 -mount + minion, and the other being weapon OR chest? Meaning theres a possibility that weapon coffer may not drop?

[wintry chasm]

type in "ballroom" or "etiquette"

That'll get pretty much all the emotes on the marketboard @tidal yarrow

[left moth]

halu: weapon and chest piece

[soft jay]

Ahh ok so it will always drop one weapon and one chest. Got it tks

[mild ermine]

[left moth]

karma: usually melds are better assuming are asking about crafted versus scrip (although gathering is more about meeting the minimum gathering stat then maxing out perception if you want high quality for leveling crafters)

[mild ermine]

So melds it is, if I'm aiming for HQ items right?

[tidal yarrow]

how do people get shiver? outside from mb

[left moth]

if the materia is arm and a leg though might be better to wait for current stuff to bottom out post 5.3 since the new set will be the focus

[mild ermine]

Can I get the materia with clusters

[mortal fulcrum]

are there healing dummies anywhere

[left moth]

yuuko: shiver emote is from eureka pagos cold warped boxed (have to go out of the way to obtain them from mutated mobs compared to regular lockboxes)

[mortal fulcrum]

I bought a levelskip for scholar and I want to practice my skills before ruining anyone's day in a dungeon

[tidal yarrow]

I have no idea what it is Pack..

[proven bay]

There should be training dummies around the overworld @mortal fulcrum

[mortal fulcrum]

can I just heal regular practice dummies

[proven bay]

Well no

But you can use abilities on them

(I think)

[mortal fulcrum]

yeah, the offensive rotation doesn't really worry me

[proven bay]

I'm not actually sure if it works for healer abilities

[left moth]

target dummies only really measure attack practice. healing practice needs a partner in party, or a companion chocobo since can target that

[gritty oracle]

@mortal fulcrum I recommend running a level 30 dungeon. Then a level 35 one. And so on upwards. Basically you limit your kit and learn it one ability a time

[left moth]

@tidal yarrow https://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/The_Forbidden_Land,_Eureka_Pagos (stormblood relic weapon. this has a step before it which involves a fair bit of grinding/nm train abuse to get to the point of pagos)

[tidal yarrow]

thank you

do I have to finish shb?

to do that stuff

[left moth]

no just stormblood title drop quest since it's older content

[wintry chasm]

^

[lime geode]

Wow I had no idea I could buy stuff with these irregular tomestones hah.

Guess I'll have to google all these mounts 🙂

Are there any I should definitely buy because they won't come back?

[twilit arch]

no, they're all available. ixion is suggested over the others because catching the fate can be a bit annoying

but not one of them are specific or unique to the event

[lime geode]

Ixion Clarion?

[twilit arch]

yes

[lime geode]

cool

Any chance there's a site with 3D renders of all the mounts?

[left moth]

http://www.garlandtools.org/db/#item/20637

[nova umbra]

is there a way to disable these messages?

[lime geode]

Thanks

[nova umbra]

starting the leves for the gillionaire achievement, and I can tell this is gonna be annoying with the pop ups :x

[weak lance]

Is there a channel or another discord for lfg? Starting today for the first time and id prefer to find someone to play with from start and give me tips on what to do.

[open coral]

Not specifically for finding a player companion, no.

You can ask us all your questions here though.

[honest anvil]

when should i start caring for good gears? level-wise at least

[open coral]

Also we've got a faq, hang on while I remember what the command for it is.

!faq newplayertips

[zinc orbit]

Terms & Tips Guide for New Players

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[open coral]

@honest anvil While you should be equipping better gear as you get it through the MSQ and dungeons, you don't really have to worry about min-maxing your secondary stats until max level.

[honest anvil]

thanks

[rich bay]

@nova umbra, sadly no.

You can't disable it.

[leaden ginkgo]

will there be new crafted combat gear in 5.3?

[tropic summit]

Do old event items that are on mog station ever return again?
Moonfire Faire, for example?

[fresh lodge]

No, new crafted combat gear only comes ever even patch

[leaden ginkgo]

ty

[fresh lodge]

You'll be able to upgrade your current crafted gear to 490 though in 5.3

[open coral]

Event items are typically one-offs @tropic summit If they're on the mogstation, they'll remain so, but they have yet to recycle them into the game as event rewards.

[tropic summit]

Ah alright

Time to bring my hype back down to realistic levels then, thanks

[limpid lantern]

Vintage viking sword and plumed oak macuahuitl are not availeble for sale at rhe merchsnts ?

Only the 46 sword is in the merchant ?

[twilit arch]

nope, they're both crafted only

[limpid lantern]

Crap

[mortal fulcrum]

what's the threshold for Catalyze on Adlo?

by critical hp, they mean when healing at low hp, right

[twilit arch]

no it means when adlo crit heals

[median locust]

It means getting a critical hit when you cast the shield

[rich bay]

@tropic summit

Seasonal items will appear on the mogstation the year after the event when the next one starts.

Special events, like the Yokai or the FF15 one are usually one-offs, sometimes it appears on the mogstation later, but most of the time it will not and you need to wait if they reintroduce it.

[stable herald]

Is there a command that lists all my current job levels?

For kupobot, i mean

Not sure if the Q should go here or kuponot spam

[tropic summit]

How often does it happen? The most recent ones I've participated in are Dragon Quest and FFXI

[twilit arch]

there's !whoclasses (only shows combat jobs) !whocrafters and !whogatherers @stable herald

[tropic summit]

Because FF15 isn't on Mog station yet, based on the precedent of Yokai, DQ and FFXI, it seems like FF15 has a good chance of coming back, doesn't it?

[median locust]

@stable herald !whoclasses with your @

[stable herald]

Ah. Thanks

[tropic summit]

Seems like collabs return but Mog Station don't

[twilit arch]

There are also voices about rerunning the FFXV Collab event so the team is thinking maybe it'd be a good idea to. But this will require them to know when to slot them in because there are other seasonal events underway too. from #translations-and-liveletters

[mortal fulcrum]

do people typically try to get some crit on scholar for adlo then

[jade quartz]

There’s a good chance of XV collab event running a second time

[tropic summit]

That'd be siiicc

Lookin at GamerEscape, seems like it's the Specials that have a goood chance to come back, no?

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[median locust]

They're all different iterations of the same event

and don't reward the same items

[twilit arch]

from experience, the cross over events usually run like 2 times

[median locust]

There's new items every year, but the old items aren't obtainable

The ones under "Special" are the ones that probably won't follow this

[tropic summit]

Well this year set a precedent for a third time, for DQ and FFXI

seems like Lightning Strikes is due a third one if they're doing it across the board

[twilit arch]

no

lightning strikes ran 3 times already and the items are on mogstation

[median locust]

Lightning Strikes is on mogstation so there's no chance to get it another time

[twilit arch]

so its very unlikely we will get a 4th

[tropic summit]

o

[median locust]

They don't rerun anything that's already on Mogstation

[jade quartz]

Once something’s on the Mogstation, it’s basically guaranteed not to return ingame

Those items are Mog Station money earners now

They’re not going to make them free again

[shadow compass]

Hello everyone, i have a question if someone can help me maybe

[jade quartz]

Else no one would ever buy them, as they could just wait for the next rerun

Shoot