#questions-and-help

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simple shore
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Except for that guy. He's weird.

naive kraken
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ive never used a macro for crafting

magic beacon
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You're weird.

stone viper
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I think I'm a weirdo too

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I like figuring out macros though

magic beacon
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You day 1 macro ChEaTeR

naive kraken
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always worried an excellent is gonna mess up a macro

magic beacon
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Exactly

simple shore
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Excellent only messes up your macro

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if you're using a shitty macro

stone viper
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But yea so I guess ishgardian stuff is the catch up mechanic while also being the grindy content for Crafters who have nothing else to do?

simple shore
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a good macro is immune to excellent messing it up

magic beacon
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Ive used the same copy paste macros to try and make the relic tool crafts

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They fuck it up every time

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Manual crafting, all the way

simple shore
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Yes, most of the macros being shared around are shitty.

magic beacon
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Its faster anywah

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I can press actions faster than the wait.2 wait.3 macros can go anyway

little swift
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i made my own macros to craft the relics anyways GWaobloChildPepeShrug

warped nest
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You can use Tricks of Trade to safety net bad Excellent proc

simple shore
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Yup. Which is why i said. Shitty macros.

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idk why but 99% of the "popular shared macros" dont do it.

magic beacon
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Or just not need to use ToT at all and be efficient with your CP

simple shore
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No Solar

stone viper
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Because they're probably trying to be short macros?

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Won't "good" ones just be pretty long

magic beacon
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I crafted all my relic tools without ToT once

simple shore
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We're talking about TotT being in the macro to prevent Poor from occuring on Byregot's

obsidian patio
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If you’re scared of poors breaking your macro split the end part into its own

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And you use a different version to avoid the poor

magic beacon
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Meh, to each their own

naive kraken
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just manual and you dont have to worry about any bad timed procs

magic beacon
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I dont like macros, so i just craft by hand and use procs to my advantage

simple shore
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You stick it in right before the step before byregots. I.e.

/ac "Tricks of the Trade" <wait.3>
/ac "Great Strides" <wait.2>
/ac "Byregot's Blessing" <wait.3>

stone viper
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Someone could die in those extra 3 seconds

magic beacon
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It can be fun to try and figure out what to do next when you get a proc in an odd place

simple shore
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if condition is normal, it just fails and move to great strides. if condition is Excellent, it triggers, Poor pops up on Great Strides, and back to Normal for Byregots.

naive kraken
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its one thing if you're spam crafting lower stuff but i'd never use a macro on 3-4 star current lev crafts

magic beacon
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Crafting is a fun little puzzle to solve

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If you solve it with clever automation then okay cool nice job

stone viper
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Has the skill changes simplified manual crafting at a high level or is it largely the same

magic beacon
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If you solve it by hand cool nice job

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Its pretty simple i think

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Manipulation is still key

obsidian patio
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Simplified a bunch of stuff

magic beacon
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Manip + prudent touch is god mode

simple shore
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Macros cant press the wrong button, and when i'm 50 crafts in to a stack of 100 crafts, i'd rather not rely on my judgement, heh.

obsidian patio
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Only a few actions still have failure rate since steady hand got removed

magic beacon
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Eh i fail a few here and there because i got careless but its fine

obsidian patio
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Hasty Touch, Rapid Synthesis, Patient Touch, and the Touch/Synthesis that combo with Observe

naive kraken
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the best thing was the auto HQ on stuff 10 levels below your level, worst thing was the mastery 3 stack costs durability now, IMO

simple shore
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Eh, the auto HQ on lower level stuff is convenient, but it also killed the market for all non-ShB crafts

stone viper
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Really? I'm crafting everything while leveling

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And there are so many niches

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I'm sering

magic beacon
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The worst part of crafting is Specialization is completely useless

stone viper
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Seeing

obsidian patio
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I mean you could already HQ anything from the previous expansion if you tried at baseline gear of current expansion

simple shore
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Yes. Specialization has gotten completely stupid

obsidian patio
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SE just made it a single button

magic beacon
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Like...i wanted to be a specialist goldsmith/armorsmith

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And i am...but i dont feel like it

simple shore
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Though to be fair

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I prefer the current system over the old

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because fuck everything about that relic phase where you needed specialist-only crafts

magic beacon
simple shore
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that was hell

stone viper
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Is that your perspective as a macro crafter or in general?

simple shore
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Old specialist system was busted because alot of recipes were tied specifically to being a specialist in that

magic beacon
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As a combat player it was unfair

simple shore
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and uh, SE then saw fit to make it so that everyone needed shit from it

celest herald
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Is striking gear for Sam?

simple shore
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Yes

stone viper
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i mean combat-only players always seemed like they were just going to be beggars regardless; usually the case in my static

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statics*

mossy tartan
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I’ve seen some screenshots of players having temperance’s wings while doing another action in group posing. How can I do that?

stone viper
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but i guess solo combat only players might've been fucked

simple shore
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The problem is that the prices were insane because of the way it was set up. I made alot of gil off of it too, of course, but because every specialist was needed to finish it, anyone who didnt craft basically either went broke getting that stage done, or they didnt get it done.

naive kraken
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i mean i make 70 or less gear for friends, can HQ easy now or buy if its really cheap on MB

stone viper
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i mean, with crafting gear being so dirt cheap now I basically skipped 1-2 stages of gearing up; it was nice but it was also kind of :/ worthy

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before I would actually do some of the content to save gil or whatever

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but I did have some gil saved up so maybe its just cheap relatively

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but ffxiv hasn't really been about the gearing up mentality compared to other mmos so its w/e

magic beacon
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Imagine if raid gear had random rolls

stone viper
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i just hope i can be excited for a patch as a crafter after leveling up stuff

magic beacon
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shiver

naive kraken
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no

stone viper
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lol

naive kraken
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i dont typically do anything above regular and i know that would be bad

magic beacon
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It would ruin the game tbh

wanton shadow
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I'm level 48 and need 300k xp to get the last few msq

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I've done my level roulette, what's the fastest way to get 300k

simple shore
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If i wanted shitty RNG on my gear, i'd go play Retail WoW

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no thanks

stone viper
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probably squadron

simple shore
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@wanton shadow just queue Aurum Vale

stone viper
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if you're dps should do squadron

simple shore
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I highly doubt someone who is on level 49 MSQ

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has squadron

stone viper
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oh

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hahaha

wanton shadow
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dont even know what aurum vale is

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only started this week

stone viper
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no more side quests?

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or you skipping that shit

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i thought the pacing of leveling should be straightforward

magic beacon
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You can FATE grind in North Thanalan

stone viper
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like no going back and doing old content until you're leveling other jobs

simple shore
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@wanton shadow go to Western Thanalan (x12, y14) and pick up the quest "Going for Gold"

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that will unlock Aurum Vale

naive kraken
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i was almost 70 by end of ARR patches

wanton shadow
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I'm on a preferred server and I'm still under leveled lol

simple shore
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that....shouldnt be possible

wanton shadow
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yep...

simple shore
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Unless you just did ALOT of things wrong

wanton shadow
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on goblin

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how could I have

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I

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Iv'e just done every msq

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I've*

simple shore
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The only way i could see you being underlevelled is if you swapped jobs repeatedly

wanton shadow
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I got an archer to 30 thats it

simple shore
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if you have Road to 70 its literally impossible to fall behind MSQ

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unless you swap jobs

wanton shadow
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I wore exp items too

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I dunno

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oh well

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wish there was a way to mark my map

simple shore
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There is

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Control + Right Click

magic beacon
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L1+ Square

wanton shadow
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ah I see

tulip plover
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Whats another way to use poetics

magic beacon
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What level are you

oak ice
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!faq poetics

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lime sphinx
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Any tips on how to make money with fc workshop ? everything is at 50 rn

magic beacon
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Farm the airship mounts and sell em

mental garnet
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how long do timecards last?

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like a 60 day game time card

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for example, if i stocked up on them

gloomy ice
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Two years from the date of purchase

mental garnet
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cool

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ty

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newegg should be fine as a retailer, right?

lime geode
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Where do Australians purchase their cards/time? The mogstation subscription is in Euro, which means foreign transaction fees.

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I assume I shouldn't purchase cards from a US site since I'm technically Euro area. Just wondering where to get them or what's cheapest to continue my sub.

mortal fulcrum
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is there a penalty for leaving dungeons when you're running it with npcs instead of players

trail prairie
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what's the cheapest material to craft glamour prism's

leaden ginkgo
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what are the most useful items that I can get for company seals?

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I've been stocking on venture coins, but I don't know if I'm missing something else that's important

oak ice
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Some relic quest materials can be bought for seals

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But other than that it only really has glam and some very specific crafting materials

white gorge
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bros i need help

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about getting into the free trial client

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it says im not subscribed

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service account is not registered

violet star
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did you previously own the starter edition?

white gorge
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even tho this is free trial client

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no i want to try the free trial

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this is my first time

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am i suppose to

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find the free trial button and lcick it?

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cuz i cant find it lol

violet star
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you got a picture of your error?

white gorge
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ye

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so i went and logged in mogstation

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and it says im on ps4

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even tho i registered windows pc

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Click the button below to create a new service account (registration code required).

If you do not have a registration code, please try registering again after purchasing a copy of the game.

Playing on PlayStation®4

Users who wish to play on the PlayStation®4 version of FINAL FANTASY XIV are required to log into the PlayStation™Store with their account for PlayStation™Network and purchase the download version or enter the registration code that was included in the package version.
Upon completing registration and installation of the game client, start the game and follow the on-screen instructions to log in and add your desired platform to your Square Enix account.

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i've been actualyl doing this for 2 days now

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made 4 emails

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all because of these problems

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even asked for help here before and someone gavem t he free trial client

violet star
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have you previously played on ps4?

white gorge
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no

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this is my first time

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so someone gave me the free trial client, and this is the free trial client im logging into

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but it still wont work

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also i dont own a ps4

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all the emails

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i tried registering

violet star
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do all your accounts say that you're ps4?

white gorge
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all says im on ps4 even tho im not

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yes

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also

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one of those 4 accounts failed to register

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like, it says im registered with the confirmation code sent and all... but square enix says my email isn't registered

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huge pain just to play FF14

violet star
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another option is trying to play on steam

white gorge
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yeah but i dont want to play on steam, i want to play on windows pc version

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so i can buy the physical retail here to put gametime into my account

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there's nothing that sells here FF14 steam version for game time

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just EU

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that's why im registering on official site

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also FF14 steam version

violet star
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did you make both a mogstation and square enix account?

white gorge
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just has free trial edition

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nope i registered once on all my accounts

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at SE website

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all SE accounts = mogstation accounts

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why is this game so complicated to register

violet star
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it's not

white gorge
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so how do i register

violet star
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should be pretty straightforward

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also mogstation and square enix are separate things

white gorge
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I mean

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when i try to log in

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square enix

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it leads me to mogstation

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cuz they say my account isn't in a service

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this is the website im on

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it says square enix, but it's also mog station

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why is it complicated to register in this game

leaden ginkgo
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soo when moving the hotbars and stuff, can i just move thee

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addon.Dat and Hotbar.dat to the file of the character

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and remove before / after the old stuff

white gorge
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basically

All account i registered suddenly becomes "playing on ps4" when i registered on windows pc

one account i registered failed to register cuz of some bug i dont know of

violet star
white gorge
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also can't find the "free trial" button

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yeah im there @violet star that's the same website i posted a link to

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what do i look for

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so i can register for free trial?

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what do i need to click

violet star
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if you go to mogstation, what does it say under account status?

white gorge
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it says

Click the button below to create a new service account (registration code required).

If you do not have a registration code, please try registering again after purchasing a copy of the game.

Playing on PlayStation®4

Users who wish to play on the PlayStation®4 version of FINAL FANTASY XIV are required to log into the PlayStation™Store with their account for PlayStation™Network and purchase the download version or enter the registration code that was included in the package version.
Upon completing registration and installation, start the game and follow the on-screen instructions to log in and add your license to your Square Enix account.
*The product code cannot be registered via the Mog Station.

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i never even touched ps4

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i registered on windows pc

violet star
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where did you click for that to appear?

white gorge
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mogstation button like u said

violet star
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so you can't access mogstation?

white gorge
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should i send a screenshot

leaden ginkgo
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Is it possible to have a different hud layout for a different class?

violet star
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^ you can use up to 4 HUD layouts

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white gorge
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that's what it says @violet star

violet star
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Kaspel, just PM me for now so I we don't clog up this chat

white gorge
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and when i click add new service account...

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that's all it says

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how do i register for free trial?

leaden ginkgo
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oh yeah you’re right @violet star but is possible to copy my past hud layouts?

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since it seems I have to create new and cant copy my current one

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where would be a good place to go to try to get a party for ocean fishing titles?

trail prairie
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there's only one beast tribe quest line for ShB?

oak ice
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2

trail prairie
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oh

oak ice
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Pixies are combat, Qitari are gatherers and Dwarves are coming in 5.3 for crafting

trail prairie
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i'm guessing i haven't done the Q+ for it then?

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ahh

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interesting

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so only one for DoW/M

oak ice
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Probably missing the unlock, ye, it's a long one in Fanow and Stillglade

trail prairie
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and i can do those starting with a lv70 job right?

oak ice
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The one involving scree

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Ye

trail prairie
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great ty

lavish vortex
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Hi! Is Demi Ozma mount hard to get nowadays?

unreal aspen
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does anybody have any tips on getting used to new keybindings?

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i got an mmo mouse and rebound like half my skills to it

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im just whacking a training dummy endlessly rn to relearn my rotation but would i be better off doing anything else?

warped nest
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That's probably it

violet star
leaden ginkgo
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oh damn thanks a ton for that! @violet star

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@unreal aspen if you have shadowbringers use trust or play dungeons with grand company members

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imo the best way to get used to stuff was dungeons and actually using them, and those ways no one can be mad at me

oak ice
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@lavish vortex the hardest part is getting through Pagos. From Pyros onwards Eureka is relatively enjoyable and there are Discord servers dedicated to doing Baldesion runs to make it easier to get

lavish vortex
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Thanks!! I haven’t touched eureka yet, I’ll start by doing that! Is there any good guide or tips to start?

oak ice
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Find a group is the best advice I can give you. Grab some people from the fc and do the challenge logs as best as possible, then join fate trains

elfin edge
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@unreal aspen when I redid my bindings I just went and soloed some lower level trials to get used to them

oak ice
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The difference between even having just like 2 more people with you and going solo is night and day

lavish vortex
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@oak ice this I can do before getting into eureka? Or after?

oak ice
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It's inside Eureka

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They are 4 separate zones that you progress through

lavish vortex
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Oh ok, I see... kind of like potd? Like it is another structure/map and leveling system kind of?

leaden ginkgo
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are the Lv 50 artisan's weapons from the grand company worth it?

oak ice
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It's designed to emulate old school MMOs, so if the grind becomes overwhelming, feel free to take breaks

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Correct

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Those are not worth it, Reasons, just level to 51 and buy npc gear

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You're gonna outlevel it so fast anyway

leaden ginkgo
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lol

remote lintel
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talk to the elevator guy in bulwark hall

oak ice
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Speak to the NPC on the floor above, near the big rock

remote lintel
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east of the big aetheryte

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am i thinking of the right thing

oak ice
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Ye

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There's a huge rock in the bulwark hall

remote lintel
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its a rock??

oak ice
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I think it is

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I've always seen it as a rock lmao

leaden ginkgo
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i actually have no idea where to go

halcyon glen
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the aetherite is the next platform over

leaden ginkgo
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should i take a screenshot of where i am

oak ice
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Go to the huge crystal and just head east

remote lintel
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bulwark hall

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theres a lift npc guy

leaden ginkgo
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no but im not on that floor

remote lintel
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teleport to it?

leaden ginkgo
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ok tru

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nvm

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lol

oak ice
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Walk down the stairs

remote lintel
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use the little crystal

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or that

oak ice
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The stairs will take you almost right next to him

leaden ginkgo
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fuck me this games maps are confusing

halcyon glen
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On the destination map those blue words are actually links

raven sage
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You could have talked to the man on that floor

leaden ginkgo
halcyon glen
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that show ya the map of the area

raven sage
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He was right next to the innkeep

halcyon glen
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yes him maybe

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Could be the other elevator. Limsa has two.

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One is a lie

raven sage
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It doesn't

remote lintel
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yes him

dense pier
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Wait, is there level 80 yellow scrip gear for gather?

halcyon glen
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wait it doesn't?

raven sage
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The other isn't really an elevator

remote lintel
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talk to him and if it says "airship landing" click it

halcyon glen
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then what's... okay i assure you it's an elevator just doesn;t function as one

leaden ginkgo
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ok i found it

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thanks alot

oak ice
raven sage
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I guess what I mean is the man isn't called a lift attendent

oak ice
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Right, there's a lift attendant in the bar

halcyon glen
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ah

remote lintel
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oh wait there is

halcyon glen
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i actively avoid limsa so i dunno

remote lintel
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we just told him the long way lol

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woops

oak ice
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Yeah, I only ever go there for the inn

halcyon glen
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i go to Gridania for everything that isn't the market board

dreamy shuttle
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when I'm leveling should I worry about gear or just equip whatever the MSQ throws at me

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I feel like I hit like a wet noodle

oak ice
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Equip the highest item level you can get your hands on

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What level are you?

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And what item level is your weapon?

dreamy shuttle
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29, 24

oak ice
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Then it's not terribly far behind

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Wet noodle from low level effect

robust crow
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is there a way to chat command into a linkshell

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like /n for novice network

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or /fc for free company

lime geode
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the MSQ provides plenty of gear, you shouldn't need to buy any

dreamy shuttle
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fair enough, thanks for the info

oak ice
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Try /ls

lime geode
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unless you're lvling more than one class 🙂

dreamy shuttle
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yeah as paladin i'm getting a bit burnt out just running around and hitting things with the same three skills over and over again

lime geode
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job

robust crow
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doesn't work, I tried /ls and /ls2

oak ice
cloud lake
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why does everyone call cinder drift a taco?

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I don't get it

halcyon glen
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the lyrics

oak ice
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/l

halcyon glen
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big fat tacos supreme

cloud lake
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the music?

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in it

halcyon glen
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duh

cloud lake
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?

halcyon glen
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yes

remote lintel
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it sounds like big fat tacos

oak ice
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Misheard lyrics

robust crow
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oh shit /l worked

halcyon glen
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(not the actual lyrics, mind you)

robust crow
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thanks a bunch

cloud lake
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I'll try to listen to it again I guess

halcyon glen
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Cinder Drift's music is the Primals cover of ||Ultima||, so the lyrics are actually those from the orchestral version of that song

slate crow
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What are the pros and cons of Pugilist? 🤔

halcyon glen
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The relevant actual line is ||"Beat, the Heart of Sabik"|| but it sounds like "Big fat tacos supreme" or similar because Primals.

remote lintel
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@slate crow pros: its fast and easy and you punch things

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cons: its boring

halcyon glen
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As I understand it:
Pros -
punch
punch fast
cons-
every move is a positional
is still a melee

remote lintel
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the positional thing isnt hard once you get it

halcyon glen
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melee as a whole tend to get sad for out mechanics or similar and this game loves those

elfin edge
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it also gets a bit easier once there's someone tanking the enemy

remote lintel
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unless the tank keep flipping it around

elfin edge
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lol spin the bottle

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gloomy mortar
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If you exit the game, then turn on the game again, do you come back to the exact place you left?

simple shore
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Yes

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Unless you were in a dungeon

oak ice
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Barring very specific instances, yes

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You're thrown out of houses, for example

gloomy mortar
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How do you throw someone out of your house?

oak ice
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The server kicks you out of the house when you log out

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So you just end up outside when you log in again

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Oh, wait

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You can block strangers from entering your house, if that's what you were asking lol

gloomy mortar
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So if you’re having a wedding, and someone is being a disruption, can you select one person to be kicked out?

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Can you block specific people from entering your house or just all guests?

halcyon glen
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weddings are... something else

oak ice
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Not sure, you might have to add the guests to your friend list and block non-friends, but there might be more filters

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They would still be able to enter your garden, obviously

white ether
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What level is the dancer

oak ice
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It starts at 60

gloomy mortar
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69

leaden ginkgo
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are the engineering manuals any good?

dusky nest
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They give bonus exp

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Which is never bad

halcyon glen
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And they cost all of, what, one drop from 80/expert roulette in seals?

gloomy mortar
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Is there a way to tell if ‘unable to invite to party’ is because they’re offline, in restricted area, server, blacklist etc?

dense pier
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What are "Evaluation" leves?

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Is it like

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collectibles?

craggy scarab
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how long would it take to rank up a DoL from level 1 to 80?

dense pier
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Diadem makes leveling DoL very easy

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but you gotta finish most of Heavensward for that

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Infact

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Diadem makes short work of crafting level 1-60

craggy scarab
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ah ok

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thought doing DoL would be useful so i don't need to buy most of the stuff to rank up DoH

dense pier
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Definitely do it

craggy scarab
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i like to gather and craft things myself in other MMOs lol

dense pier
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I can't speak for DoL, but you level up quick in there especially if you use those +exp gathering

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With Diadem mats

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You can go from 10-60 with any crafter class

halcyon glen
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Is it better to level Miner/Bot before or while leveling crafters?

dense pier
#

in about 30 minutes

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You want to level them all at once tbh

craggy scarab
#

damn that's quick

dense pier
#

Because at some point you're going to need to gear for your miner/botanist

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If I had to point out though

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the ones you want to focus

craggy scarab
#

i was trying to rank up goldsmithing but holy shit some ingots are expensive asf

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so i signed up to the miners guild to go mine them for myself

dense pier
#

BSM > CRP/GSM > WVR > LTW > ARM

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Out of all the professions I feel that, BSM is the strongest since it can make tools for most of the other professions

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and GSM is the strongest 1-50 because it can make +CP +GP

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but that changes after ARR

craggy scarab
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what's BSM? (sorry fairly new lol)

dense pier
#

Blacksmithing

craggy scarab
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ah ok

dense pier
#

I want to say that, ARM (Armorer) is mostly useless...

craggy scarab
#

really?

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why?

dense pier
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Because, it only makes tools for a couple professions, you aren't going to be crafting your own battle armor while leveling

#

The only thing that comes from ARM is "plates"

craggy scarab
#

very stark difference from other MMOs where armour is highly sought after

dense pier
#

Well

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That's because

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WVR (Weaver) and LTW (Leatherworker)

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also make armor too

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WVR and LTW, as well as making battle armor, also make gather/crafter armor

craggy scarab
#

so ARM is just for tanks?

dense pier
#

Uh

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It has some melee in there

craggy scarab
#

if so that would be useful to me because i'm a tank main lol

dense pier
#

You aren't going to be crafting your own armor

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until 80

#

At the end of every expansion (So, 50/60/70)

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There is "poetic" gear

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Where you farm poetics (dungeon currency) like candy

craggy scarab
#

i just use the set i get from the job quest

dense pier
#

and get near-bis gear

craggy scarab
#

except at 50

#

i use that ironworks gear

dense pier
#

Yeah

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That's why you won't be cvrafting your own armor until 80

#

ALC is good for making mats for other professions

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and it makes some unique buffs

#

CUL, while possible to level without it

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is very, very powerful

craggy scarab
#

i saw you only listed DoH crafts, how is the order of usefulness for DoL?

dense pier
#

The food from CUL can make crafting super easy

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Eh

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I would argue

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MIN > BOT > FSH

For the fact that mining gets you stuff that lets you boost BSM easily which lets you craft strong tools.

BOT is for crafting armor for gatherers/crafters

craggy scarab
#

what is fishing for?

dense pier
#

Some people never even level fishing

#

Oh

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Well, it's for fish

craggy scarab
#

oh

dense pier
#

Some of them are used in ALC recipes, which are used in almost every craft

craggy scarab
#

thought u might get some random stuff like in cartoons lol

dense pier
#

Some fish are super expensive

leaden ginkgo
#

i dont fucking get this games maps

#

its so infuriating

craggy scarab
#

so if i find myself a gold encrusted salmon i can sell it to Pingu? xD

dense pier
#

There are guides out there that help with leveling stuff

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they tell you what leves to spam

remote lintel
#

what dont you get about the maps

craggy scarab
#

how do i get a leve?

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when i talk to the guy he turns me away

dense pier
#

Leves are given in zones at safeareas

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Oh

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Idk

remote lintel
#

you unlock leves at your starting city

dense pier
#

I think there is a bluequest somewhere to unlock leves

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and then you have to unlock leves per zone

#

but it cost a leve to unlock

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so don't unlock zones that you won't be using

craggy scarab
#

oh okay, i will hunt around Gridania for that then lol

delicate stone
#

do ogcd's no longer trigger wyrmwave?

craggy scarab
#

@dense pier thanks for the help, i shall stop picking your brain now lol

remote lintel
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it should be in the adventurers guild in gridania

faint flare
#

@delicate stone no, only gcds

delicate stone
#

ah rip, but thanks!

nova umbra
#

when do you drink a tincture as a whm?

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prepull?

remote lintel
#

at the burst at the begining and enrage at the end

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but discuss with your team

dense pier
#

Wow

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Are savage dps really that tight?

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Like, to fit into enrage

remote lintel
#

yes

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if theres more than 2 deaths it's unlikely you'll beat it

limpid lantern
#

I feel like raiton is better single target dps than any of the three seal combination skills, am i right in that conclusion or am i missing something ?

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remote lintel
#

for low level yes but the other combos have their uses

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at lvl 80 it isnt

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!action hyosho ranryu

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Deals ice damage with a potency of 1,200.
Mudra Combination: Chi→Jin or Ten→Jin
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Triggers the cooldown of weaponskills, mudra, and Ninjutsu upon execution.

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remote lintel
#

nvm lvl 76

limpid lantern
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Yeah and thats kassatsu only

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Talking about non kassatsu ones :)

remote lintel
#

then yes

faint flare
#

Yes, Raiton is best

limpid lantern
#

I mean i know suiton is used to do trick attack but doton also feels weaker than katon

faint flare
#

More steps doesn't always mean better

remote lintel
#

doton is dot

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use it

limpid lantern
#

And also static so in dungeons it feels very off

remote lintel
#

you use it when you stop moving

faint flare
#

Doton is stronger if the mobs live for the duration of it and stay inside

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Most trash packs shouldn't move much once stopped so

remote lintel
#

unless the tank dumb

simple mesa
#

Hello guys, where can I start my 30lvl job quest?

jade quartz
#

!faq job

zinc orbitBOT
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How do I unlock my job?

To unlock your class' job you need to be level 30, complete all of your class quests and the main scenario quest 'Sylph Management' (lvl 20 quest) to be able to pick up your job unlock quest. Once you've done the initial unlock quest, you will be given a soul crystal which you must equip to become your class' job.

jade quartz
#

Note the MSQ requirement

limpid lantern
#

And just to be sure, this game has crossplay right ?

remote lintel
#

there was an faq all along wearycarby

faint flare
#

Yes

remote lintel
#

yes

jade quartz
#

Complete crossplay

simple mesa
#

thanks a lot

limpid lantern
#

Do pc guilds n such accept ps players or is there a pc masterrace stigma ?

faint flare
#

Yes

remote lintel
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they dont care

jade quartz
#

No such thing

remote lintel
#

nobody cares

limpid lantern
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Alright kool ^^

jade quartz
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That’s dumb

faint flare
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You cant tell the difference

#

Really

jade quartz
#

Yeah

warped nest
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Some do, only because they are idiots

jade quartz
#

I have literally never heard of so daft a thing

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There’s no way to tell ingame

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Anyway

dense pier
#

What can I use yellow gather/crafter scrips at 80 for...?

remote lintel
#

there are some people who are like "pc plays objectively better"

limpid lantern
#

@jade quartz it happens a lot in other games where there is no crossplay eveb

#

Whats the best place to look for a friendly and active FC ? In game or on reddit or something ?

remote lintel
#

could check the recruitment channel here

jade quartz
#

It happens in games with very young player bases of kids who’ve centred their identity around a hunk of technology

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You can try to meet people organically ingame

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Or find a person with an FC with recruitment applications open

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There is a free company search function on the official lodestone website

remote lintel
#

or wait around limsa for someone to inevitably advertise their fc

dense pier
#

Correction

limpid lantern
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Alright ^^ ill check those options out

dense pier
#

Wait around Limsa for someone asshat to send you an invite without saying anything

limpid lantern
#

Yeah i dont accept random invites xD

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Ive gotten 6 already for a FC named "Ben Dover"

remote lintel
#

thats great

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almost as good as that roegadyn i saw in a sonic the hedgehog cosplay

limpid lantern
#

The best joke i have seen so far is the au ra race joke in correlation to jojo bizarre

remote lintel
#

it's actually pronounced ow-rah

limpid lantern
#

Still works for me xD

normal breach
#

someone explain raiding to me

remote lintel
#

cry

normal breach
#

like why are there people recruting for "statics" that happens 3-4 times a week for 3 hours at a given time?

#

are raids not like dungeons where you just que and get paired with randos

simple shore
#

No

remote lintel
#

no you dont

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theyre not that easy

simple shore
#

Statics are pre-formed groups of players who take on the content

remote lintel
#

they require intense coordination which youre unlikely to get with randos

normal breach
#

and they practice 3-4 times a week for what?

simple shore
#

Savage cannot be done with 7 randos who have no evaluation of their knowledge of the fight lol

remote lintel
#

to clear it

normal breach
#

how long does a raid take to complete

simple shore
#

That depends on your skill

remote lintel
#

like around 10 mins each fight

#

for the fight itself

#

but takes hours to learn

#

hours and hours

normal breach
#

why does it take hours

simple shore
#

The hardest content (Ultimates, like The Epic of Alexander) can take 100+ hours of work for a static to learn

remote lintel
#

because they're hard

normal breach
#

is there a helpful youtube guide linked anywhere

remote lintel
#

raids are like this

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you MUST be doing optimal damage for your class and you really should not die

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half the boss attacks are insta kills

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if you have more than 2 deaths you're unlikely to clear it

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because you wouldnt be doing enough damage

simple shore
#

There's some mechanic, back to back to back to back - usually if you fail a mechanic, at minimum you will instantly die, and more likely you'll kill the entire group.

remote lintel
#

there are dps checks

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there are hardly any attack tells

#

you need to be in certain formations for mechanics

turbid crystal
#

for fights like that, what gears do you get out of it?

remote lintel
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the best gear in the game

simple shore
#

Like, it would be easier for you to see than to try and tell.

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Let me see if i can find a good example

turbid crystal
#

and there's no other way to get it right?

simple shore
#

Yes

remote lintel
#

not currently

normal breach
#

are all raids set up like that or only the lvl 80 ones? i have the bahamut raid unlocked (lvl 50 i think) but i havent done it - will that take me 100+ hours to learn and is there a static i join for that too?

remote lintel
#

all raids

simple shore
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No

remote lintel
#

i mean

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all savage raids

simple shore
#

Old raids are not like that because everyone unsyncs them

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BUT

remote lintel
#

bahamut is basically savage dont do it

simple shore
#

if you were to do them SYNC'd

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then it would be just as hard

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It wouldnt take 100 hours to learn fucking COil tho

remote lintel
#

bahamut is the outlier in that it's not labeled as savage but it's basically savage difficulty

simple shore
#

lol

remote lintel
#

normal raids are easy tho

proud willow
#

You can have a single level 80 run you through the Bahamut raids unsynced if you want to see the story

simple shore
#

Assuming the level 80 is capable. Not everyone can do it.

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Gotta have that burst for T9

remote lintel
#

note that normal mode raids are casual content and savage mode raids are endgame content

#

theyre not the same

#

you can queue for normal raids

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you can't queue for savage

normal breach
#

are all raids basically end game? like i should hit 80 and beat shadowbringers before worrying about raids?

remote lintel
#

you cant do lvl 80 raids without beating shb

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its story locked

proud willow
#

normal raids below 80 are still active because they're in roulettes. Savage raids below 80 have some people unsyncing them to farm them occasionally, for glamour/mounts

remote lintel
#

savage raids are endgame but normal raids arent

proud willow
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and the normal raids and alliance raids prior to 80 are pretty fun, and some are linked into some of the ShB plot in a way

simple shore
#

@normal breach Okay so...this is a pretty decent video that might give some perspective on Savage. This is Kefka / God Kefka Savage from back in Omega in Stormblood. No narration, just in game sounds. It gives you a good idea of how much is going on - and keep in mind that any time you see someone moving somewhere, they're moving there for a purpose. And yes that fight took ~20 minutes total to clear, which was normal back then.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzgMB6jA35s

Aeternum clears O8S on 1/2/2018 at 2:56 GMT. World 10th!

▶ Play video
remote lintel
#

i was gonna show e2s

simple shore
#

I figured Omega raids are less spoilery since its just old FF bosses

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heh

white ether
#

Does general metallic brass die work?

remote lintel
#

yes?

white ether
#

Because it’s saying general but the dye says metallic brass

normal breach
#

do people do 32 man raids or not really?

simple shore
#

32 doesnt exist

remote lintel
#

there are no 32 man raids

normal breach
#

whats the one

remote lintel
#

@white ether "general" doesnt really mean anything

normal breach
#

thats not 8

remote lintel
#

24

simple shore
#

24 man. 24 man is casual content

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You can queue for that blind and usually get through it fine

remote lintel
#

and then theres the 56 man dungeon haha

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but we dont talk about that

normal breach
#

what are 24 man raids called? or also raids?

remote lintel
#

alliance raids

simple shore
#

Alliance Raids in the DF

normal breach
#

like in duty finder where are they split off

#

kk

simple shore
#

They're under Raids tho

white ether
#

What’s the difference between general and metallic brass dye

normal breach
#

bahamut is not 24 right?

remote lintel
#

alliance raids = 24 normal raids = 8

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no it isnt

simple shore
#

Coils of Bahamut are 8

remote lintel
#

@white ether one is tradeable/sellable and the other isnt

white ether
#

Could I use general to dye my armor?

remote lintel
#

yes

white ether
#

Cuz i ain’t trying to spend 100k

remote lintel
#

they function the same

normal breach
#

what does it mean when people say something like E5s vs E8s? Guessing its a level on a certain raid?

remote lintel
#

e5s = 5th eden raid, savage

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e8n = 8th eden raid, normal

simple shore
#

So like, the current raid has 4 bosses, each one is one wing

#

so the number is the wing

normal breach
#

so theres 8 wings?

remote lintel
#

currently for eden

little swift
#

at the moment yes

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8 floors

remote lintel
#

theres going to be 12

little swift
#

last 4 will come out in 5.4

normal breach
#

and u can join anyone?

simple shore
#

4 from the original release, 4 from the latest, and 4 more will be added in 5.4

remote lintel
#

for normal mode you can just matchmake

normal breach
#

like bahamut coils has like 5 or so different dutys

simple shore
#

I mean, you can join anyone, technically - but Savage groups are going to have some.....requirements

normal breach
#

is it similar to that

remote lintel
#

you have to clear each floor to unlock the next

normal breach
#

like each coil is its own wing

remote lintel
#

yes

#

they all basically follow the same formula

#

except bahamut

simple shore
#

Bahamut is weird because it has 5 wings in its first set

little swift
#

bahamut is also unlike current day normals, as its difficulty can be considered savage level

modest jetty
#

Are all the others more consistent with part count?

remote lintel
#

yes

simple shore
#

Yeah everything from HW onward had 4 wings per release, totalling 12

little swift
#

yes we've only have 12floor raid series

#

since then

#

and will likely continue this trend

#

since squenix tends not to change what works

#

12 normal raids

#

3 alliance raids

#

6-7 trials?

simple shore
#

then 12 savage versions

#

and 1 ultimate

little swift
#

2 ultimates

simple shore
#

And now we have this new difficulty which, well

little swift
#

the next one will be in 5.5

simple shore
#

i'm not sold on but we'll see

little swift
#

if they don't change mechanics, the fight will just be the same as before

#

:/

simple shore
#

Yeah exactly

remote lintel
#

i dont think theyre changing mechs

#

just scaling up

simple shore
#

Its like "cant we just go do sync'd or min-iLvL Shiva EX already"

little swift
#

having done the fight synced i don't know how i feel about it yet

#

i guess being able to use your current level abilities would be nice

#

but maybe one change or another phase would spice things up

simple shore
#

I just dont see how that doesnt make it too easy in comparison though

little swift
#

the mechanics in comparison hit harder, not everyone you play it with will know the fight

#

its still new fresh content to some people, especially those who've only down it unsynced

remote lintel
#

i dont think its meant to be that hard

simple shore
#

Right, i just dont get where it fits into everything

rigid oracle
#

Maybe off topic but I heard that FFXIV is becoming F2P up to level 60, and the last time I played was in 2013. Today I logged in and checked my account status and it's like this, does anyone know if I can play for free with this account or it needs a subscription?

#

Actually I don't even remember if I bought the game back then or what

warped nest
#

It is not going F2P

#

It is expanding its existing free Trial

#

So new player can play the free trial up to lvl 60 contents

#

It was capped at lvl 35

simple shore
#

TL;DR if you ever owned the game or sub'd, that account is not valid for it. Also.....unless i'm reading that wrong...doesn't that indicate that you're still subbed?

rigid oracle
#

I don't see any option to check my current account status except that page ^^ don't know what it means

#

From what I remember I think I only played a month up to level 4x

#

I think it might have been another promo back in

simple shore
#

Log into mogstation and click here

rigid oracle
#

Really don't remember but I guess not eligible to play up to level 60 anymore

little swift
#

the old old trial, from what i know had an end date to it, before they updated it

#

used to be 14 days

simple shore
rigid oracle
#

but here's my status

#

it looks like I have the original game I guess

little swift
#

you're not eligible for the trial on that account

simple shore
#

Yeah you bought the game

#

You would have to make a new account to play the trial

#

But if you do that - you'll have to re-buy the game, FYI

#

if you decide you want to go past 60

rigid oracle
#

ok thanks for your help you guys

molten kayak
#

do i need to worry about the lil lore items in dungeons

#

like for a collection achievement or smth

slate crow
#

Why is it when I try to click something in the mogstation sale, I get this page?

simple shore
#

No, but if you want to check them out, you can use Return at the end of the dungeon, and that will return you to the beginning of the dungeon, and you'll be free to run through it and look at it as you please

molten kayak
#

nice thanks

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errant zinc
#

hey just started the game like 2-3 weeks ago. I concentrated heavily on MSQ and the job quests but I'm collecting all the time a way too much of the grand company currency. Any tipps what I can spend on while on lower rank? I used to spend it on tokens/ventures (idk the correct english translation), is there sth better?

simple shore
#

Use the currency to get promotions

#

until you cant

#

Then keep doing it

errant zinc
#

Oh this is possible?!

#

LOL thanks^^

simple shore
#

talk to your GC's Personel Officer and select "apply for a promotion"

#

You will want to max that out

errant zinc
#

thanks a lot!!!!

hidden lotus
#

Hello. Newbie here and wanna try the game. I am from PH, how to register and where to play? Thank you.

simple shore
#

Just to clarify - PH = where?

hidden lotus
#

Oh sorry. Philippines. 🙂

simple shore
#

Well, i cant speak from experience, but from what I'm reading it looks like Tonberry on the Elemental datacenter (Japanese DC) is the "unofficial" Southeast Asia server. That may or may not be good advice though, i'm literally just relaying what i'm seeing.

nova umbra
simple shore
#

Yeah that's not a smart thing to do.

dusky nest
#

if someone reports them, they will have some explaining to do

simple shore
#

Never post in in-game chat information you have gleaned from using ACT

bitter plaza
#

that's half of what out sam does haha

simple shore
#

Freestyle SAM's are a meme for a reason.

bitter plaza
#

but yes that is basically admitting to violating the TOS

little swift
#

thats a very clear demonstration of ACT usage

#

oh dear

errant zinc
#

just curious, what are you talking about?^^ what's ACT and what's about the 8k / 9k?

simple shore
#

ACT is a 3rd party program that can show you DPS information.

#

Its sort of a 'dont ask dont tell' thing

little swift
#

ACT is Advanced Combat Tracker

leaden ginkgo
#

he's calling out the samurai for having low dps

errant zinc
#

aaaaah, alright;-) thanks

little swift
#

8k/9k dps at max level is not particularly great for a dps job

#

not that we judge

simple shore
#

i judge, every damn day

little swift
#

use it as a tool to improve, not a means to attack others

leaden ginkgo
#

^

simple shore
#

SE can't ban you for using it, because they cant tell if you're using it. But if you then say something in in-game chat indicating that you are using it, you can definitely get banned

errant zinc
#

but I guess it only makes sense in the later game? I'm just made it to the credits of 2.0

simple shore
#

Its a necessary thing.

warped nest
#

It doesn't even matter unless you are doing savage/Ultimate seriously

simple shore
#

Because the hardest content in the game requires you to be able to beat certain DPS thresholds

#

Thus, you have to be able to know if you are or arent

#

etc.

little swift
#

it doesn't even matter in savage, but people do like getting additional information

leaden ginkgo
#

so weird question
What do i do with my Zeta and Lux?

simple shore
#

Hence SE doesnt exactly.....go out of its way to do anything about it, but if you post in-game about it, particularly in a derogatory manner, they're gonna swing the banhammer

warped nest
#

They look nice

#

That's their purpose now

errant zinc
#

alright, thanks for the clarification 🙂 I'm still astonished how nice everyone is who's playing this game👍

leaden ginkgo
#

Soft rephrase

#

I got my replicas

#

I still have the OG

#

What i do with it

warped nest
#

Keep the OG in case you fat fingered and remove the replica

leaden ginkgo
#

Do you need the OG to buy replicas?

#

Cus remember you can't u se the OGs to Glamour

warped nest
#

If you don't have it in possession, how the game tells if you are eligible to buy the replica?

leaden ginkgo
#

...I'd... assume quest and cutscenes progresion?

little swift
#

achievements are how they tell

warped nest
#

OK, discard them then

little swift
#

if you have the achievement you can buy the replicas

leaden ginkgo
#

well

little swift
#

but oyu can always keep them as commemoration

leaden ginkgo
#

I know with Zeta, you can turn it in, to make a step of the Lux easier

#

Does Lux have something similar?

warped nest
#

Nope

little swift
#

no it does not

simple shore
#

No

#

because that would be....monstrous

little swift
#

the sb relics build out of your 70AF

simple shore
#

lol

warped nest
#

It is just a bone for idiots who complaint about their zeta weapon being irrelevant

gray sinew
#

what does breaking convictions mean

limpid lantern
#

Where do i become a RDM ?

simple shore
#

@gray sinew clarify what you mean

gray sinew
#

ul'dah...? iirc

warped nest
#

!faq sbjobs

zinc orbitBOT
#
Stormblood Jobs and How to Unlock Them

Stormblood Expansion Jobs: Red Mage (Caster DPS) and Samurai (Melee DPS). These jobs start at level 50 and require ownership of the Stormblood Expansion and a disciple of war or magic job at level 50.

Job Unlock Locations:
Red Mage - Distraught Lass at Ul'dah - Steps of Thal (14,12), quest name is "Taking the Red".
Samurai - Ul'dahn Citizen at Ul'dah - Steps of Nald (9,9), quest name is "The Way of the Samurai".

gray sinew
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its a buff in some duties

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it just says breaking convictions

simple shore
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Oh that shit

gray sinew
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probs does nothing but

limpid lantern
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Ty

gray sinew
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idk what it means, just curious

smoky glade
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if you have "skip previously viewed cutscenes" on, does it skip in NG+ as well? (does NG+ even show the cutscenes I would assume so? right?)

simple shore
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It's kind of like Echo that you see in other solo duties.

little swift
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its flavour twink, it just means you have the echo active

gray sinew
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ah ok

foggy flame
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I have a question about scheduling for Eternal Bonding. If you go to schedule during the middle of the week (example Thursday), can you still schedule for that weekend (Example Saturday, two days from it)?

white sierra
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Is there any way to change race? I started as a hyuer and its kinda boring, wanna change things up

shrewd owl
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end of the arr msq gives you a free fantasia to change your appearance

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besides that you have to buy it from the online store

white sierra
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I see.. meanwhile im sitting here at level 20 with my msq being level 16 quests... damn

halcyon grail
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Is it possible to change a character name?

green grail
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it's a paid service available on mogstation

halcyon grail
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Where?

simple shore
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As i always remind people, it changes your name, but it will not "fool" people who already have you added - you will remain on their friends lists / blacklists / etc. except under the new name

green grail
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additional services - change character name @halcyon grail

halcyon grail
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Found it, for some reason got an error code

limpid lantern
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Do you use melee RDM abilities if they are not enhanced ? Or if you have enough energy to enhance one ?

simple shore
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Never

limpid lantern
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Or do you just save up all untill 80/80 and then spend all

simple shore
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Yes

limpid lantern
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Alright

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Trying to figure out my rdm hotbar atm

simple shore
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Though Moulinet is a bit of an exception since its not part of a combo

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That can be used as you get it, or you can save up to do a bunch in a row

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Both methods can be appropriate depending on the situation

slate arrow
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That and Reprise are not part of any combos

limpid lantern
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Yeah thats the AoE one right ?

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The moulinet

simple shore
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Yes

slate arrow
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yes

simple shore
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Reprise, on the other hand....its basically a "i'm going to cap my mana but i cant combo yet" / "i need to move right now" ability

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its also not melee when enhanced, which is misleading because the unenhanced one is

slate arrow
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More often than not it's because you have to cancel your cast because the boss is dropping AoEs on top of you and/or mechanics

hallow grove
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Hey I just got to heavensward and I'm interested in astrolgian but I've never tried a healer class before. Is it necessary that I try one out before picking it up?

slate arrow
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no

simple shore
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Its not necessary, but Astro is probably the hardest one to figure out, of the three

slate arrow
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to maximize DPS

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to just heal? It's basically WHM. just target the tank when you need to heal and use your healing buttons

simple shore
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I mean, if you're not gonna use cards on an AST you may as well not even be there

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lol

slate arrow
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Yeah, but you're making it sound scarier than it needs to be

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You can learn to use cards after you understand how to heal and you don't feel oh god the tank isn't topped off they're gonna die any second anxiety

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plus, below 50? That card is like, 1- maybe 2 points of damage at most

simple shore
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WHM is objectively easier. That's my only point. If someone can be "scared" by "AST is the most difficult of the three" well....

slate arrow
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annnyways that's discussion

hallow grove
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But what about traits? Are there any that pass down like how my gladiator gave my drk some extra skills?

slate arrow
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no

simple shore
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Err

slate arrow
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there are absolutely no cross class abilities

simple shore
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you GLD did not give your DRK skills

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*your

slate arrow
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You might be mistaking them for role actions

simple shore
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Roles have Role Actions

hallow grove
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Yeah that's it

simple shore
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which everyone in that role has

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It has nothing to do with gaining them from another class

hallow grove
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Ohh okay good, so that isn't relative

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So I can just pick up astro and be able to learn everything. I just thought it was weird because I saw some skills on the wiki that's like "level 8"

limpid lantern
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Is it advised to use veraero 1/2 and verthunder1/2 to get more white/black mana or jolt/scatter

slate arrow
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depends on AoE or Single Target

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There's an FAQ somewhere

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!faq 50rdm

zinc orbitBOT
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'I just unlocked this' 5.x guide
limpid lantern
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Yeah i have that pic and basically using 1 or 2 is single/aoe but aero/thunder generate a single tye while jolt/scatter do both

simple shore
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Huh?

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No no no, you alternate

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i.e.

agile laurel
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you lose out on potency

slate arrow
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as a DPS your job is to do Damage

agile laurel
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usual 'why doesn't red mage work like this' questions can be answered by 'it does less damage' or 'it's slower'

simple shore
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Veraero 2 -> Scatter -> Verthunder 2 -> Scatter

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Like that

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you alternate to keep your gauge balanced

slate arrow
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The intended way is to hardcast jolt/aero 2/thunder2 into aero1/thunder1/scatter

simple shore
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Its extremely important that you do not build up too much of one mana type without the other

agile laurel
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i think an imbalance of 40 really fucks up your generation

slate arrow
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It does

agile laurel
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you can get away with a lot but like, don'ttryit.gif

simple shore
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If you do, you'll see the crystal on your gauge go pure white or pure black. This will severely hamper the gain of the other type of mana

limpid lantern
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Alright so from what i understand is i do jolt for lower cast time then instant veraero then jolt then verthunder

simple shore
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Yes essentially

slate arrow
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Or verstone/verfire If those are up

simple shore
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if you proc Verstone/Verfire, you use them instead of Jolt

dusk zenith
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how do healers signal who they are raising in party chat when they raise?

agile laurel
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macros

dusk zenith
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i want to use one for savage raids

limpid lantern
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There are no aoe versions of verstone and verfire right ?

simple shore
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Correct

dusk zenith
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can someone give me a quick macro for it pls

agile laurel
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Yep

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To that extent, acceleration in aoe is 110% useless

simple shore
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The only thing that changes for your AoE later

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is that on 2 targets, once you get Impact (this upgrades/replaces Scatter), you do Jolt -> Impact

agile laurel
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because only with the impact upgrade do you have enough potency to make this worth it

limpid lantern
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So the single target basics consist out of jolt/veearo/verthunder with verstone/verfire if they proc, if AoE i replace the 1 by 2 soells and jolt by scatter

agile laurel
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if you only have scatter, just do the single target strings on both targets

simple shore
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I mean, that's wrong but i think you understand

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because

agile laurel
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watch it, aoe is ver II > scatter

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short > long

simple shore
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You start with the 2 spells, and end with scatter

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for AoE

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Verthunder 2 -> Scatter -> Veraero 2 -> Scatter

limpid lantern
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Ah ! I didnt see the CD's where the other way around on the aoe

simple shore
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Yes, Scatter is the slow spell

limpid lantern
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Sorry but then i think i understand yeah

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And things like fleche and other oGCD when they are off cooldown i geuss

agile laurel
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if you're ever hardcasting something over 2 seconds you're doing it wrong

simple shore
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Yes but ONLY after you dualcast a spell

agile laurel
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generally

simple shore
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So like this :
Jolt -> Verthunder -> Fleche

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Do NOT do this : Jolt -> Fleche -> Verthunder

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That is clipping and wasting uptime

frosty badger
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hi, what can you do with excess achievement certificates?

limpid lantern
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Yeah that was the weaving part right

simple shore
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Yes

agile laurel
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not an awful lot

limpid lantern
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Yeah ive read about that but not yet applied that too much on the ninja i played

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But i geuss its way more important on RDM

frosty badger
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any tradeables?

simple shore
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@frosty badger if you've already bought everything basically nothing

frosty badger
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wont you always end up with more than you need any way?

limpid lantern
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Any dmg taken causes spell interruption btw ?

slate arrow
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Depends

simple shore
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It can but not usually

slate arrow
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single target stuff plus orange AoE? Probably

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Unavoidable raidwide damage? Nah.

simple shore
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Weaving / Clipping is significantly more important - and also more difficult to master - on casters. Though RDM is the easiest to learn how to do it on because their cast times are so short.

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and they have an instant every other cast, which gives them lots of weave windows

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Weaving on a BLM on the other hand, is much harder to learn

slate arrow
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You basically have to clip to weave in most major instances

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You only get a brief window normally and that's when you swap between ice and fire

limpid lantern
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Whats clipping ?

slate arrow
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!faq weaving

zinc orbitBOT
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Quick guide to weaving/clipping

Click the image, then 'Open original'

simple shore
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Clipping is when your oGCD delays your next cast.

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i.e. bad

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So on RDM you want to be using your oGCD's after dualcasts, or during your melee combo

limpid lantern
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Alright

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Pff so much info on this game xD

slate arrow
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I mean it has been for running for 7 years in its current state

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The game itself is

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holy shit a decade old now

limpid lantern
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I feel like ik trying to learn a lot too fast

slate arrow
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just basically, keep your GCD rolling, and only use abilities in between the GCD

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RDM is complex because you pick it up at level 50

limpid lantern
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Oh no im happy that i can invest my time and effort into it

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Im just learning tank, ninja and rdm at the same time

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And next to that the entire game in itself since i started playing a few days ago

charred rain
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i have 2 questions

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which is the easiest dps and tank to play

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and can i play higher content without a naga type mouse?

obsidian patio
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Yes. People play on controllers too

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As for easy classes, I generally recommend Marauder/Warrior for an easy to play tank, while for DPS Lancer/Dragoon has a very gradual learning curve.