How do Tenacity and Determination scale up against each other? Does one scale better than the other?
#questions-and-help
mossy portal
gritty oracle
Does Recitation Adlo also double the shield on a full heal target, since it's dependent on the hp restores? Or does it not how it works?
simple shore
Tenacity is basically a garbage stat except for specific Ultimate scenarios
agile laurel
recit adlo is a forced crit so will always apply catalyze
simple shore
Never prioritize it for normal play
crude vortex
Got it, thank you!
gritty oracle
it doesn't force catalyze (plus my real question is whether I should recitation adlo deployment before pull or only adlo deployment)
mossy portal
Thanks @simple shore has anyone made any visual indicators to how they actually scale, just out of curiosity now 😛
gritty oracle
I've had plenty recitation adlos where it didn't catalyze
agile laurel
...wha?
how's that the case?
recit forces critical health to be restored
and catalyze is applied when critical health is restored
is there something I'm not getting here?
Anyway, since Galvanize is by definition 125% of the HP restored, deployed recit adlo would deploy more shields
catalyze is simply a second galvanize tacked on top in the event of a crit
simple shore
@mossy portal yeah there's a site somewhere that details all that shit, breakpoints and all, but i dont have it handy.
Its extremely heavy reading though
mossy portal
If you do remember the site please let me know, very interested in the heavy reading, I've been looking for the ElitistJerks equivalent for FF14 😛
twilit arch
!faq stats
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mossy portal
Oh that easy, HAHA thanks guys
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simple shore
They have guides for everything
simple pine
is it possible my friend upgraded from free trial but didnt transfer character?
he can still log in with same credentials and see character
is there a way to check your account status?
simple shore
Accounts are managed via mogstation, have him log in to there.
crude vortex
Also, how can I get different mounts instead of the normal Chocobo?
simple pine
he logged into mogstation, and he now has a "FINAL FANTASY XIV 1" service account, but at the bottom it says he has no characters. there is no trial service account listed anymore
jade quartz
Some early and easy examples are the unicorn for completing a level 30 conjurer quest
obsidian patio
An early accessible source of mounts is from Jonathas in Old Gridania in exchange for achievement certificates, which you get one for every 50 points you earn.
crude vortex
I'm guessing there are also Raids/Dungeons exclusives?
crude vortex
cool cool
jade quartz
Few from dungeons
obsidian patio
Not really dungeons, but raids and trials, yes.
unreal aspen
question abt savage tiers, i started playing during 5.2 so i don't know exactly how it works. does new dow/dom crafted gear come out on each patch new savage raids come out on? same question for the allegory gear equivalents. and if so, how does it compare to the gear from the previous tier of savage raids?
obsidian patio
New raid tiers work in a range of 30 item level
jade quartz
There’ll be a crafted and normal raid gear 10 ilvls above the previous savage tier
Tomestone gear 10 above that
And savage gear/augmented tomestone another 10 above that
unreal aspen
ok ty ty, i assume progging the raids on day one with the previous tier's bis is doable?
mossy portal
Thanks @simple shore for the discord link
junior tundra
should i let the compressed aether bar in the diadem fill up to max or use it straight away
unreal aspen
or do you have to shell out for crafted gear/wait until you get upgrades from normal raid gear
simple shore
@junior tundra there's no advantage to waiting. However, specific enemies drop specific items, so you may want to make sure to target what drops what you want.
jade quartz
@junior tundra makes no difference having all the bars full
One bar is used at a time
unreal aspen
actually nvm thats a dumb question LMAO
jade quartz
Can prog starting with last tier gear
nova umbra
does damage element type matter?
young fjord
Also in eureka
agile laurel
Also for black mage
nova umbra
so even for blue mage?
jade quartz
E.g. boss gives some players a fire vulnerability debuff, those players shouldn’t eat the next fire stack or w/e
agile laurel
no, blue mage is irrelevant
nova umbra
a lot of the abilities have elements attached to them with the same potency so I'm confused
jade quartz
No not for black mage
agile laurel
well, yes and no
jade quartz
For blue mage it can be a thing in masked carnivale
agile laurel
black mage matters what your element is, but as long as you can read 'Fire' you can just do it by eye
jade quartz
Ehhh
That’s just rotational though
Not like other games where there’s a Pokémon elemental vulnerability system
agile laurel
yeah, but black mage is like sam, you can do the rotation without understanding and vice versa
if you can know the rotation it doesn't matter whether you understand why it works or not
but that's why it works
cold crescent
need some help with the wooden loft steps
unreal aspen
also question abt fflogs rankings and stuff, how much does being late in prog affect them? like in regards to not having the gear that other people do since they've had much more time to get crystarium gear/bis from raids
cold crescent
if anyone knows how to work these
nova umbra
how good is bad breath on blue mage in dungeons?
agile laurel
these, yeah?
it's okay, but you may as well use flamethrower
blu has a couple of whatever-equivalent options for aoe spam and single target spam
jade quartz
Those stairs are a pain because they only go one way
agile laurel
personally I just use glower and flamethrower
jade quartz
Can’t put their left side on the wall
agile laurel
... 'cept you can
jade quartz
But you can use a partition to float glitch them into place
jade quartz
It’s a really annoying instance of float glitch though
Because it’s tough to get your camera pointed in there
agile laurel
if you want them the other way round, you'd need to use a partition of some kind (stage panel is my fav), attach it to the panel at the height you want, put it into position and then use a standard float glitch
although as said, because it's hard to get into place you may just wanna cover up rough edges however you fancy
junior tundra
whats the difference between the yellow and blue pickaxe gathering symbols on the minimap
agile laurel
idk miner terminology but for btn it's vegetation vs tree
twilit arch
basically yellow nodes use your main hand, blue nodes use your off hand
agile laurel
also varies what's collectable from them
jade quartz
Yellow are found under “mining” in the gathering log, blue under “quarrying”.
twilit arch
qaurrying and mining for mnr
frigid bough
Is there a way to discard items faster on ps4
Crafting a lot of shit that I don't need for exp
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stone tartan
Few questions, I am new so pls forgive me
(1) Im on free trial now, can I just buy ARR and buy the others later?
(2) If I hit Lv 35 now, do I qualify for Lv 60 cap in August when they raise it?
(3) If I'm not gonna grind it out from level 1, how long until I reach the current endgame content, estimate?
twilit arch
- yes, you can buy the starter edition and then buy shadowbringers (which gives heavensward/stormblood) later if you want. starter edition will be receiving the same adjustments as the free trial so in august will give heavensward
- we don't know for sure, but its possible
agile laurel
regarding no. 3, depending on your playtime and from personal experience i'd say under or around a month
proven bay
It depends on how fast you progress
If all your focus is MSQ, then you'll get there pretty quick
If you're someone who likes to take their time and do other things along with the MSQ, it'll take you a lot longer
I'm already on my second month since I started and I'm not even at HW, despite playing an average of 4-5 hours a day
little swift
you definitely also don't need to grind in this game
grinding isn't the avenue to reach endgame through your first job
MSQ is
limpid lantern
How hard is ninja to play ?
little swift
i would say its one of the more challenging melee's to play, due to having to jam all your big damage into your Trick Attack windows
but mudras become muscle memory fairly quickly
so its not bad?
agile laurel
ninja is hard/fun to learn, easy/repetitive once learnt
little swift
it doesn't have a horrible time with positionals
and overall outside of trick windows its not too involved
agile laurel
yeah
simple shore
The key to ninja is good keybinds
If you have bad keybinds for your mudra, you are going to have a really really bad time
agile laurel
outside of trick windows is basically just 1 2 3 ninki spend 1 2 3 raiton to avoid overcap 1 2 3
limpid lantern
@simple shore something something ps4.
agile laurel
and trick windows once you've learned the optimal really never change
simple shore
Well it still applies
little swift
ps4 isn't a problem for keybinds
little swift
if anything i think it organizes mudras better
since you can have them on one set of facekeys
simple shore
Yeah agree, i imagine that "rotate through the controller buttons" is easier than my "Shift-F, Shift-E, E"
limpid lantern
Ah like that, i was thinking macro programs on pc, sorry
agile laurel
like trick windows are always just trick fang dwad, ranryu assassinate, raiton TCJ, fuma raiton suiton meisui til the end of time
limpid lantern
Yeah i was planning on having them on left, right, down and ninjutsu on up
simple shore
Macros are especially bad for mudras
little swift
thanks for coming to my ted talk
agile laurel
don't use them for any gcd action really
simple shore
I mean, there's an argument to be had for macros on some things.
But never, under any circumstance, mudras
Worst possible macro ability
little swift
no gcd actions
agile laurel
yeah, cause mudra inputs are about twice the speed of your GCD
little swift
but certain tethers/ground target abilities i understand
agile laurel
so they're quick
limpid lantern
Let me put it this way, its my first class, would ninja be too much since i also have to learn other mechanics next to the class ?
little swift
no
twilit arch
the games pretty decent about introducing you fairly slowly to things
Though the expansion jobs, since they start higher, can be a bit overwhelming
little swift
you can't really start as a ninja either
agile laurel
i'd argue ninja is easiest learned as a first job because mudras aren't weird and special to learn and deal with
little swift
lv10 is the earliest you can be to unlock it
simple shore
The only job i wouldnt suggest to someone absolutely brand new would be SMN, because that job makes my brain hurt
agile laurel
idk summoner can be pretty easy to figure out, but it's helpful to learn wtf weaving is as early as humanly possible
it's just the endgame rotation/opener that's a wild ride
strong saddle
Samurai seems difficult and i never played it
agile laurel
sam's another that's hard to learn and damned easy once learned
simple shore
Yeah like, playing average SMN is fine. Playing high-end optimized summoner is obnoxious.
agile laurel
it's just a pattern that never changes
limpid lantern
Yeah i was thinking to go as tank but i figured id learn shit first and then level a tank as secondary
simple shore
SAM is pretty easy imo
little swift
starting as a tank is actually not a bad idea
your rotation will be the least involved
little swift
so going through dungeons will be less of a challenge mechanically
simple shore
The only downside to starting as a tank, is you'll not see other tanks first. Knowing how people do dungeon pulls is pretty helpful.
agile laurel
sam just goes kasha combo, hakaze jinpu kaiten higan., gekko meikyo x y z midare, tsubame, then 2 midares, then 2 filler GCDs until quite literally hell freezes over
little swift
also you're tankier, so you can eat more damage in msq
strong saddle
Dungeon que when i first did my duty was 25 minutes iirc
agile laurel
it looks bad if you don't know what I just said
but once you've learned it you just do it
limpid lantern
The bunny is fail ninjutsu ?
strong saddle
Iirc yes
twilit arch
yes, bunny is when you mess up your mudras
limpid lantern
Alright ^^
strong saddle
Bunny is evil
limpid lantern
I was like what does the bunny from 2 ten do ?
agile laurel
bunny is an input that doesn't exist
it also rabbits when you use something that isn't a mudra, while executing mudra
fringe pilot
Hey does anyone one know how Australians can pre order omega figurine ? Also what we b is the last day to pre order?
agile laurel
although the only time i tend to fuck that is with kassatsu
proven bay
I actually found tank to be a very difficult first job to have
strong saddle
Really? which one are u
proven bay
I mean, I didn't start out as a tank. I leveled Ninja and Paladin aside one another. The reason I say tank is so difficult is it requires a lot of knowledge about mechanics, your party members, how to cater to them, how much to pull, etc. etc.
As well as paying attention to your rotation, however easy it is
strong saddle
True
proven bay
It can be very daunting as a first class
strong saddle
im leveling a warrior now
proven bay
Whereas dps is kind of just do your rotation and avoid AOE
Much easier to learn as a first class imo
simple shore
Yeah, "how much to pull" is the big one.
simple shore
Seeing someone who knows what they're doing tank it gives you great insight into how you should tank it
Particularly for ARR dungeons where wall to wall isnt a viable thing usually
nova umbra
what does duplicate classes have to do with LB?
strong saddle
Shrug
simple shore
Okay so i dont know if this is true or not still, but
At least back in SB and earlier, duplicate classes make you gain LB bar slower
twilit arch
duplicate jobs reduced limit break generation
proven bay
How much you pull depends a lot on how capable your healer is. And figuring that out when you're barely starting out can be super difficult
proven bay
When that's said though @strong saddle Warrior is a much more forgiving tank for starting out. Since you have so much self-recovery
You don't need a healer all that much
agile laurel
I believe so, I've had A12S farm groups with dupe jobs that've not had LB3 ready for divine judgement
which have then resolved
by not having dupes
Yeah but mrd's mitigation starts off being kinda average
It only picks up a bit later and skyrockets into ridiculous-tier with nascent flash
!action nascent flash
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agile laurel
tl;dr 25sec CD which adds lifesteal effect to all of your attacks for 6 seconds
where 1 chaotic cyclone can basically heal you for 40% of your health if not more
strong saddle
My rotation atm is Tomohawk, heavy swing,maim,overpoverpower,beserk,storms path. Is that good enough? Im at lvl 27
little swift
interesting combination of skills
overpower is AoE
shouldn't be used with your single target weaponskills
berserk will apply to up to 5 of your GCDs
at your level
tomahawk should be used for pulling mobs
strong saddle
Im doing dungeons testing it out
strong saddle
Okay so tomohawk is another option
raw solstice
@twilit arch I believe so yeah. But even then it's generally not a super impactful thing
simple shore
The tricky part of warrior below 40, is if you want to pull multiple groups, and you have a regen ticking on you. Aiming overpower is a pain
marble drift
overpower being a cone to everything elses complete circle (unleash/total eclipse/demon slice)
throws me occasionally
junior tundra
are there potions that restore GP
twilit arch
yes, cordials and hi-cordials
watered cordials, and cordials can be crafted, while hi-cordials can be bought with yellow scrips
cordials can also be bought with grand company seals
agile laurel
bear in mind they have a cooldown on 'em
white sierra
So I started playing today, im a level 7 archanist and this is my first ever mmo. I am so lost. Kinda just been doing story and job stuff... please i require guidance!
agile laurel
honestly you sound like you're doing everything correct
keep going
quests are wholly optional
quests will unlock Something
white sierra
I wasted like all my gil on lv 5 armor lmao
white sierra
It was because of the "get lv 5 gear to proceed" quest
proud willow
the gear that you start with is equippable at level 1 but has an "item level" of 5 (which is what counts for the quest) so there was no need to replace those pieces. Not a big deal at all though
dry tree
as a tank, should I be using "Rampart" everytime its off cooldown?
proud willow
that used to not be the case, but I think they changed the starter gear so that it would be less of a potential roadblock to brand new players
pretty much, yes
proud willow
unless it looks like the fight will be over in another 5-6 seconds
agile laurel
if you're doing big pulls frequently
if you're taking no damage then you may as well not
dry tree
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onyx kiln
can i only have one garden source with a small house? not even plant pots?
agile laurel
you can have plant pots, but you can't use those for crossbreeding
twilit arch
no, crysta is simply another payment option
1c = 1 crysta, so you can load up your account with crysta and pay with that
kind eagle
oh
elfin kelp
how much does a mount cost at level 20?
agile laurel
Does Titan at least beat out garuda on pure single target damage, discounting ifrit?
twilit arch
no
rich bay
@elfin kelp
200 GC seals, you get those for free with the MSQ.
rich bay
Was a typo
little swift
You get 300 from the next msq too
halcyon glen
Or if you don’t want to TP back to the base after reporting to the waking sands to claim your quest seals
You can hold your daily leveling roulette
And do it right after joining a GC
rich bay
In 5.3 there will be a special ticket you get via the MSQ to get to Vesper bay quickly
frosty badger
rich bay
All cards except for the cards you can only get 1 time.
dry tree
When's a good time to use the forbidden chakra skill (as monk)?
green grail
if you don't have the trait that gives you meditation for crits then under as many buffs as possible
after you get the trait you basically use it as soon as you get 5 stacks, since it'll happen pretty often
limpid lantern
What are eatherpool arms / armour ?
fickle whale
||Can I do Eden:Refulgence several times to get more blades then one?|| < Spoilers
candid raptor
I think it's still one per week
fickle whale
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dry tree
what does ogcd stand for?
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dry tree
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undone stratus
Hey I'm a level 17 lancer atm but I'm curious about thaumaturge. Is it a bad idea to start that job once I get to the city with the thaumaturge guild? I assume it makes gear a little awkward. I still wanna play thaumaturge and level it while my archer friend isn't online (we're playing the MSQ together) is that feasible?
agile laurel
you'll get some armor for it via class quests
halcyon glen
Sure! That’s a fine plan
agile laurel
and i guess you could pick and choose gear rewards from MSQ to put some gear aside for thm, up to you
undone stratus
So it's fine to get lancer gear from class quests and msq and thaumaturge just from class quests?
Gotcha
agile laurel
you just might need to be mindful about needing to spam some lower dungeons/hit vendors to update gear now and again
rocking up to a dungeon 10 levels undergeared is a bit of a dick move as dps
undone stratus
Sure absolutely I wouldn't want to do that
agile laurel
thaumaturge/black mage is also fun to level in a way, cause its rotation changes a lot
!faq blmleveling
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undone stratus
Rip haha
faint flare
Only blm has it
agile laurel
only a tag for black mage cause that changes significantly as you go
onyx kiln
any way to hide these types of chat messages?
undone stratus
Right gotcha gotcha
agile laurel
and there's nothing more soul wrenching than hearing a Fire 2 at level 65
faint flare
Character config > chat settings > log filters > other > other sythesis message
gritty oracle
and random recruitment messages
undone stratus
Oh follow up question if I'm in Gridania atm at what point will I find the thaumaturge guild?
halcyon glen
During that quest, you will travel to Limsa and Ul’dah, in that order.
undone stratus
Oh perfect
halcyon glen
Well, when you get there provided you’ve done your level 10 LNC quest
undone stratus
And if I'm going for lancer / thaumaturge what profession should I look to pick up
Yeah I've done it the level 10 quest
halcyon glen
You mean like crafter/gatherer? You can skip them all like I did orrrr...
onyx kiln
if you mean the crafting one then i would suggest all since they all cross each other at some point
halcyon glen
Yeah
onyx kiln
but carpenter does lances and i think goldsmith does the rods
halcyon glen
But, time and place for everything
undone stratus
Okay cool
wintry chasm
So unless you want to splash bucket loads on materials you could have made yourself
You want to do them all
undone stratus
So they're not very high priority?
wintry chasm
They aren't necessary
halcyon glen
And that time and place is once you can access Ishgard restoration upon completion of HW
onyx kiln
gotta craft 'em' all
wintry chasm
Not like a raid is going to lock you out for not having crafters
It is it's own optional thing
faint flare
Crafting and gathering is basically a different game
Can ignore entirely if you want
undone stratus
Good to know
halcyon glen
Speaking of which can someone forge me a staff if I provide the extreme material drop
cane rather
undone stratus
Oh I've heard if I want to try out conjurer it's okay to do that after the msq because healers are easier to level would you agree with that?
halcyon glen
Eh easier isn’t the word I’d use
nova umbra
do you have to sync a dungeon with a full blue mage party to guarantee the skill?
halcyon glen
Healers ge fastest queues because no one plays them
undone stratus
Gotcha
halcyon glen
And as such, they get to level by spamming dungeons
undone stratus
My friend is gonna switch to dark knight when he can but he'll start that at level 50 right? So if I'm considering healer I can't just pick it up when he gets dark knight?
halcyon glen
Dark Knight actually starts at 30
But is inaccessible until you have a character at level 50 as you will need to first complete the level 50 
“Before the Dawn”
undone stratus
Oh that's not as bad then
halcyon glen
If you want though, Astrologian becomes accessible at the same time as DRK and also starts at 30
wintry chasm
aka reach the first expansion
upper prism
200th (ish) quest of the arr
upper prism
something around those numbers, but yeah more
candid raptor
Post arr is 100 quests
upper prism
isnt that bad honestly... started playing the game 3 weeks ago
candid raptor
And soon less
wintry chasm
2.0 is the longest bit anyway but that's going off topic
undone stratus
I've heard astrologian is really complicated but it might not be too bad figuring it out while my friend tries out dark knight.
halcyon glen
Just believe in the heart of the cards
upper prism
guys is there a free company recruitment channel here?
halcyon glen
It’s certainly more complex at 30 than the other healers in that you need to actually push buttons other than your damage button every so often
upper prism
true, i see a lot of people struggling with the job, unlike conjurer for example
halcyon glen
But that’s a low bar
remote lintel
it's really not that hard
upper prism
well, i wouldnt know. didnt play it yet
but i plan on doing so, after maxing all tanks in the game lul
undone stratus
I can get down with the heart of the cards. I was only thinking of conjurer because I heard blood lily is a fun ability but I know very little about healing and FFXIV classes in general
halcyon glen
When WHM’s level 30 rotation is Aero - Stone - repeat until Aero drops - repeat
tidal yarrow
is the thing in left corner a script?
remote lintel
it's a 3rd party program
tidal yarrow
ah oki
halcyon glen
SCH at 30 is even more braindead since you don’t even have to heal most of the time
remote lintel
tbh I struggled with sch more than ast
eager night
How do I see how much GIL I have?
remote lintel
bottom right by default
eager night
thank chu
upper prism
how do i level up quickly? im at 56, drk. dungeons aint doing the job
faint flare
Dungeons
halcyon glen
Dungeons
faint flare
Are the best way
upper prism
damn
remote lintel
roulettes, beast tribe, fates, challenge log, highest lvl dungeon
faint flare
Do your daily roulettes and beast tribes
undone stratus
Alright you guys have given me a lot to think about, thanks for the help! I'll try astrologian when my friend gets dark knight and until then I'll play around with lancer / thaumaturge. Worst case I'll make my friend help me level conjurer if I find astrologian super confusing. Anyway you guys were really friendly and helpful and I super appreciate it <3
halcyon glen
You could do like Vath quests yeah
upper prism
idk about these beast tribes things still
remote lintel
unlock them
halcyon glen
Inquire with the Vath storyteller for now
faint flare
And the vanu
halcyon glen
I just forget when the Vanu quests are
faint flare
Opens like 57
undone stratus
Oh wait as lancer can I use both both life surge and blood bath on the same ability?
halcyon glen
And yes, they stack
undone stratus
Okay cool
agile laurel
ideally you'd just wait for a healer to heal you, but in world content it helps
undone stratus
So I should be using blood bath if I'm low and life surge for DPS right?
agile laurel
yes
faint flare
Life surge is used on cooldown
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remote lintel
second wind + bloodbath if you're really low
undone stratus
Yeah I figured it goes on your strongest attack (whatever is at the end of the combo) I don't have full thrust just yet
agile laurel
yeah
in which case just use it on vorpal
life surge doesn't affect dot potency so don't feel tempted to use it on chaos thrust
and it only affects weaponskills
so full thrust or coerthan torment, no exceptions
halcyon glen
Or vorpal until Full is an option
leaden ginkgo
hi, got another dumb question
so I just made it to "Sworn" with the Kojin and normally after ranking up, extra beast tribe quests pop up...is that not a thing though when you're on the last rank?
agile laurel
go ahead, unless you want a dumb answer
faint flare
Nope
faint flare
Yes
leaden ginkgo
cool cool thanks
eager night
Would becoming a blacksmith be a good idea?
eager night
No idea what that means
I just see a quest saying "so you want to become a blacksmith"
And was like "oh shiny"
rich bay
Because all crafters, apart from Culinarian uses materials fron each other.
remote lintel
it's more efficient to level all crafting classes at the same time rather than 1 at a time
they can use the same gear
rich bay
Als that.
remote lintel
so you also won't have 500 sets of gear in your inventory
rich bay
Most leveling gear is replaceable for cheap though, but yes, it is better to level class/job groups together.
remote lintel
but yeah you can pick up crafting whenever you want and they make big bank at max lvl
rich bay
Not always Cerberus.....
(Depends on the economy.)
nova umbra
when setting up a macro for blue mage for copying hotbars, how do I do that and have role skills?
leaden ginkgo
Gunbreaker; AOE vs Single target strings
candid raptor
You can be a blacksmith and lvl only that too
leaden ginkgo
Which is more effective and efficient?
candid raptor
If you want to rp or smth
leaden ginkgo
Is it worth it to just spam AOE's in groups of 2 or more enemies?
rich bay
@candid raptor
Blacksmith uses Armorer, Goldsmith and Carpenter materials too.
candid raptor
Yes I know
agile laurel
at 2 enemies, just single target string the two enemies
candid raptor
But if they want to just start the blacksmith quests there's no downside to that
wintry chasm
Blacksmith uses Armorer, Goldsmith and Carpenter materials too.
@rich bay among a lot more
nova umbra
how do I copy a hotbar with a macro and keep my role skills for blue mage?
wintry chasm
copy a hotbar from another job?
nova umbra
yeah, like using arcanist/conjurer/gladiator
so they can hold my blue mage setup for different roles
and the macro would copy them to my blue mage
it works, but the problem is that it overwrites everything, so I don't know how to keep my role skills there :x
wintry chasm
oh you want to have different hotbars based on what role of tank/healer/DPS you want to be while playing Blue Mage
nova umbra
yeah
remote lintel
put role skills in different hotbar slots that arent used?
wintry chasm
well I'm thinking you should be able to just use the class hotbars right?
leaden ginkgo
If I use a DoT, then a damage boost skill, will the DoT increase in potency?
remote lintel
have to boost first
wintry chasm
It snapshots all buffs when you put the DoT on
upper prism
i need help with something: do daily roulettes have a specific time for rewards reset?
zinc orbitBOT
Tick, Tock, Kupo!
wintry chasm
@nova umbra Yeah anyway if you just have blue mage stuff put on a class hotbar then you can do a macro like this to swap sections of hotbars and since classes and jobs don't share the same hotbars it won't fuck up your other jobs. So like in this example this is putting armourer skills on my second hotbar onto the archer's second hotbar. If you just reversed this so it's /crosshotbar copy "Archer 2 Blue Mage 2" that'd work
and idk have your Blue Mage DPS load out on archer
tulip skiff
Do previous events outfit return to the mog station? Or are they gone for good when you miss out on them?
gleaming finch
So odd question, is there a way to disable your xp gain? I'm nowhere near the first expansion but my gathering classes are 50, but if I do turn-ins for seals they are going to go past 50 and I won't even be able to gather those mats for a while
wintry chasm
No Landale
eager night
Are side quest worth doing?
remote lintel
change class
faint flare
Yea, seasonal event items return on Mogstation
remote lintel
@eager night theyre for world building
wintry chasm
There are some events that have been, have no word about coming back, and items aren't on mogstation
remote lintel
yes ren
tulip skiff
The moonfire happi will that come back?
eager night
What about xp and leveling though?
Side quest worth? Or just focus on main quest
remote lintel
no
wintry chasm
like this are basically what Cerberus is talking about
remote lintel
side quests dont give great exp
wintry chasm
side quests are important
eager night
Welp...
remote lintel
^
eager night
Ya I been doing the ones with the +
eager night
Been doing all the side quest I see...
faint flare
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/151558839005741056/735501705797697588/chrome_5SuqDMocO6.jpg @tulip skiff
eager night
Done like 3-4 main quest >.>
faint flare
August 12 is moonfaire
remote lintel
for exp do roulettes
eager night
Idk what a roulette is, I assume I just haven't unlocked it.
remote lintel
what level are you
tulip skiff
Oh excellent! I can complete my samurai glam
eager night
8-9?
remote lintel
then you havent unlocked it
faint flare
This event probably has different rewards
remote lintel
side quests at that level are alright for exp
faint flare
Than last year
eager night
Oh alright
tulip skiff
Oh it won’t be the same outfit?
faint flare
Seasonal events usually have different rewards and old rewards tossed on Mogstation
eager night
Thanks for the help ^-^
faint flare
Aftrr a year
tulip skiff
Ok as long as it’s on mog station last years outfit then it’s fine
faint flare
So last year outfit probably goes on Mogstation around thr same tine
Givr or take abit
tulip skiff
White moonfire happi is what I want
proven bay
You can play this game entirely by running through MSQ @eager night The suggested way to play is to ignore side quests, and only do MSQ and blue quests
If you want to do side quests it's different. But they're not great for leveling up
eager night
oh well that is helpful to know thank you
proven bay
zinc orbitBOT
strong saddle
Im trying to synthesize this maple syrup but it just gives me these steps. How do i make the syrup? )(Just joined the guild)
faint flare
You need to acquire the materials before you can start the craft
Then use synthesis skills to progress the cradt
Thw low level mats can be brought at the suppliers near the guild
sturdy mason
Ideas for things to do while waiting in DF queue as DPS at level 80?
sturdy mason
ohhhh beast tribe
limpid lantern
Hello, i accidentsly entered pvp and i can use spinning edge and on the same button there will be the second attack in the combo as is the same for the third
Is there a way to get that in pve also ? (Play on ps4)
agile laurel
No
strong saddle
I need these umm crystals. Where can i obtain them
faint flare
Gathering
agile laurel
Gathering, or market board
strong saddle
Is the fire shard from mining or?
sturdy mason
Is there a website that has a list of all the beast tribes with mention of how to unlock them?
strong saddle
Gg im too poor
sturdy mason
This is the best I could find, but it's not "all in one" https://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/Category:Beast_Tribe_Quest
sturdy mason
just one page that's easy to glance at
remote lintel
it is one page?
sturdy mason
it's a link to other individual ones. I'm just nitpicking, I'll manage
strong saddle
Where is the miner guild in Limaa Lominsa
limpid lantern
Thats a shame we cant use that setup of skill like in pvp
faint flare
Nowhere
limpid lantern
That would have been very nice
faint flare
Miners in uldah
strong saddle
And how can i get there?
strong saddle
Ok
sullen pulsar
when you start a 2nd job. What is your best source of XP since the MSQ is no longer available
faint flare
!faq altlvlguide
zinc orbitBOT
sullen pulsar
thanks guys
acoustic lichen
Anyone know anything about dps meters
proven bay
Mostly hunting log and dungeon things
faint flare
There's only 1 dps meter
remote lintel
hunting log for really low lvl
faint flare
Called ACT
faint flare
Did you run as admin
acoustic lichen
Do you need to press start or smth
remote lintel
what does it say
faint flare
Run as admin
remote lintel
try entering a new area?
elfin kelp
anyone know how long the game is going to be on sale?
faint flare
Until the 19th i believe
half nacelle
Hello
If I will start trial version of the game now will I be able to roll into new trial startinf from 11?
half nacelle
Or I wont be able to use the same account
faint flare
Its not clear
half nacelle
As i Dont want to start now and then not be able to continue from 11th August
trail coral
When does shadowbringers content show up in NG+? I skipped a lot of story, people told me that was bad, but now when i go back it shows ???
elfin kelp
is there a way to set your current armor to cosmetic? I like the MSQ armor set and don't want to go back to a pair of assless chaps lol
remote lintel
glamours
tardy patio
is there a way to set your current armor to cosmetic? I like the MSQ armor set and don't want to go back to a pair of assless chaps lol
@elfin kelp https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/wiki/Glamours#Unlock
elfin kelp
ty
remote lintel
@trail coral pretty sure it shows up after you beat the story
half nacelle
Does any of the @strange lintel @delicate elk @charred rune Admins would be able to answer my question?
remote lintel
just ask the question
candid raptor
He did
faint flare
No one knows the answer
remote lintel
oh yeah
candid raptor
The answer was given
trail coral
Lmao I actually just unlocked it after completing the quest with tataru named shadow bringers. go figure right?
obsidian wren
@half nacelle what do you need help with?
remote lintel
it was already answered
candid raptor
The extra tags were uncalled for tbh but eh
tardy patio
How much of the craftable furniture is locked behind 70-80 crafting? Are the vast majority of housing furni before that or should I wait until 80 to start making a list of decor to craft
strange lintel
obsidian wren
Please don't ping the admins for small questions like that 
remote lintel
@half nacelle square enix didn't release info on it so no one knows
the admins aren't connected to SE
faint flare
They're just unlocked normally as you hit the level @tardy patio
A good chunk is around 50/60 with some in master books
But there is more above
Like some Norvrandt stuff
tardy patio
Yea I just meant like if I wanted to make a study for example, would a bunch of desks, bookcases, scholastic furni stuff something I can only make at 75, 79, 80, etc
candid raptor
You will have more options at 80
remote lintel
the housing merchants sell basic stuff for that
faint flare
There's some earlier
tardy patio
Yeah I bought a bunch of basic merchant stuff but Ive seen some really knockout houses, but I dont want to start if I have to stop midway to get my 70 crafters to 80
Roger I'll just make the push to max omnicraft when 5.3 and Ishgard expansion hits
faint flare
Lv70+ stuff has things in the style from Shadowbringers areas
tardy patio
Hmm I got like 14m gil but some of the costs I've seen, I'd rather just make it myself
eager night
Anything I should focus on as a low level?
tardy patio
The upcharge can get absolutely nasty
faint flare
Storu
remote lintel
doing the msq
faint flare
Story is top priority
eager night
Like something to start now as I progress through the story?
faint flare
It locks EVERYTHING in the game
acoustic lichen
Why won’t the game let me join a fc
remote lintel
what lvl is hildibrand again
acoustic lichen
It’s greyed out for some reason
tardy patio
are you a free trial bawz
acoustic lichen
Nah
faint flare
Because that opens when you're in one
obsidian wren
Hildi is at 50, 60 and 70
acoustic lichen
I’m level 61 lol
faint flare
There's no free company finder
remote lintel
right
elfin kelp
is there a glamor quest npc in gridania?
tardy patio
Yeah you probably gotta get invited to one then
faint flare
You gotta shout for one
tardy patio
You cant just open a menu and make an FC, pretty sure there's NPCs for that
acoustic lichen
So someone is trying to invite me
remote lintel
when you get to 50 do the hildibrand quests @eager night they continue throughout most of the expansions
acoustic lichen
But I can’t open their invite
tardy patio
the invite should be one of those pop-up toast menus like when your dungeon is ready
acoustic lichen
It comes up in chat
And nothing else
And the free company option in social is greyed out
faint flare
If you closed out its in the notification area
If it hasn't expired
You need to accepy it
If you dont see a notification then it has expired
Though its like a 5min+ timer
remote lintel
is it not in your notification area
remote lintel
delicate elk
@half nacelle Yes. The free trial is having its limitations expanded; it’s not a separate experience. You’ll be able to use your current level 50 character when the level cap is increased august 11th.
remote lintel
they confirmed that free trial accounts will be upgraded?
delicate elk
Characters rolled over the last time (35>50)
faint flare
Since when was the free trial ever 50 
delicate elk
If it only went from 20-35, I might be misremembering
zinc orbitBOT
jade saddle
Companion App > armory items don't indicate if they're part of a gear list, unless I'm missing it?
There's an icon indicating if they're in use by a Retainer, so it's an odd omission, if true.
delicate elk
That said, that upgrade did not affect the eligibility of existing trial accounts to use the service
signal garnet
Anyone know the best way to get dusk feathers
fresh lodge
Dusk Feathers?
short sparrow
How do I change which chat is 'active' for me to type into?
fresh lodge
Depends on the chat you want to go into, but they all have a shortcut
obsidian wren
You can also click the chat icon and manually select one
bleak night
I'm new to the game, is there a clan or something I can join or ani tips for me im level 8
fresh lodge
The speech bubble to the left will also let you select which one you want to be in
delicate elk
You’ll likely get free company invites as a sprout
short sparrow
Typing /fc doesn't work, what's the right one for free company chat?
delicate elk
If you’re not in one, it won’t do anything
(Or you may already be in it and not notice)
fresh lodge
Also I think Novice Network is /novice
short sparrow
I got invited to one yesterday, I'm a returning player so while I've forgotten everything about how to use the UI I'm really trying to relearn.
delicate elk
You’ll get it! Welcome back.
fresh lodge
Also /sh requires you to include the message with the command to use it
So /sh Hi there!
short sparrow
Uh, rather than type /fc each time can I set a default?
fresh lodge
/fc enter will set it to FC chat
short sparrow
Thank you, that's perfect.
north venture
Hello, What materia do I use for Dancer ?
faint flare
Crit > dh > det
north venture
I have total of 21 slots atm, should I divide them on the 3 stats ?
faint flare
You meld in the priority listed
Meld crit if possible, if not meld dh, if cant mekd dh or crit you do det
north venture
ok thank you ❤️
lime marlin
can someone tell me why my art is being downvoted if i posted it to the wrong thing or something I'm getting wrecked just for posting to the sub and I don't know what's wrong with it 😦
faint flare
People downvote everything
lime marlin
my other artpost did fine!
lime marlin
I'm so very confused about it
north venture
do I need to do anything to slot the materia on gear, or just drag and drop ?
kind eagle
lime marlin
faint flare
Use materia melders
faint flare
Bardams does give gear better than shire
kind eagle
yeh
faint flare
Story will also give you better gear
kind eagle
i gotten some
junior yacht
you don't need to, like, grind the dungeon
worldly cape
what's bardams?
faint flare
65 dungeon
lime marlin
😿
worldly cape
can I just skip shire/ironworks gear? cause I'm just farming poetics and doing nothing else =/
lime marlin
north venture
give it time kitty, go take a nap and see how it goes lol
lime marlin
man i thought people on the subreddit were better
faint flare
Literally dont worry about it
junior yacht
you don't really need to farm poetics
kind eagle
yes bardam better or msq
junior yacht
if you're doing daily roulettes you should be picking up enough as you go
faint flare
Imaginary internet points dont mean much, especially reddit
lime marlin
really hard not to worry about it
i kind of hoped to get my art out there its my job 🙂
but i guess reddit is horrible for this
candid raptor
This is not really a question anymore tbh
faint flare
Reddit downvotes literally everything
candid raptor
And reddit be reddit
junior yacht
if you're doing the MSQ just keep doing that, there's no point grinding in Bardam's @kind eagle
worldly cape
I keep hearing this
"you'll pick up plent"
but I was lvl 60 before I had 4-5 pieces of ironworks
twilit arch
this really isn't the place for that anyway @lime marlin
worldly cape
road to 70 kinda screws that up
junior yacht
where were you in the story though?
lime marlin
no i legit had a question about the reddit
twilit arch
this channel is not really for questions about the subreddit
lime marlin
but where should i ask next time?
twilit arch
junior yacht
if you're going through the story, gear progression should be measured against the story's level requirements, not your character level
leaden ginkgo
north venture
what to do to solve this?
faint flare
Thats for self melding
Which needs you.to level a crafter up to your gear level
So you.need a lv80 crafter to meld lv80 gear
north venture
oh shit, is there another way if I am not into leveling crafters? 
north venture
oh nice, thanks a lot Vinyl ❤️
half kraken
How do I know if a fieldcraft leve will let me submit additional items or not?
short sparrow
Can someone link a list of all the default keybinds? I'd just ask for the one I want, but that might lead to asking many times.
Please, and thank you.
candid raptor
You can check that in game
proven bay
@half kraken You don't. But you can often just deliver the item and then end the conversation and send in more. As many as you can
short sparrow
Oh huh, sorry. They are in game. Lazy me.
half kraken
Every time I buy enough to give multiple it turns out I can't submit more than once, but if I buy enough to submit multiple I can give more than one lol
twilit arch
Additional turn in leves have specific plates
but bot/min leves do not have triple turn ins
only crafter/fisher
dense pier
leaden ginkgo
Do we have any housing related channel?
zinc orbitBOT
agile laurel
@leaden ginkgo
regardless if you had housing questions, there'll be one or two here able to help (hi)
harsh torrent
O/, hi im super duper new to ffxiv (jus moving from osrs). I'm kinda stuck picking between Archer/Bard and Pugilist/Monk. Is there a place I can see the end game bis gear for each job? I really don't know how to decide
leaden ginkgo
Thank you 🙂
tawdry python
Hi, this might be the wrong place to ask so sorry I’m advance! I am trying to sign into FFXIV on my PS4 with an existing account (played on PC) but it won’t let me, it pushes me to create a new service account, anyone had a similar problem? ><
In*
short sparrow
I have played on both PS4 and PC without trouble.
I needed to buy the game and the expansion twice, but it worked.
tawdry python
Yes, I have bought the PS4 editions and installed them, but it won’t let me sign into my existing account? >< (bought on disc)
I made a reddit post with pictures of the problem as well, but not sure if I’m allowed to link that here?
little swift
!faq balance
zinc orbitBOT
short sparrow
As far as I understand, it should - I'm sorry I don't know how to fix it, but I'm telling you that I do the same, have literally logged in on both within the last 24h so it should work
little swift
@harsh torrent here
harsh torrent
@harsh torrent here
@little swift thank youuu
tawdry python
It worked for my brother who just got it on PS4, but mine doesn’t want to work for some reason.. ;^;
wintry chasm
Sounds like an uninstall reinstall thing because pretty sure it should have given an option for new service account or log into an existing one
harsh torrent
@harsh torrent here
@little swift I don't really know how to find it 😦 sorry for tediousness
tawdry python
I already tried to uninstall and reinstall, the issue is still there >< When starting up i only have option to select “Sign in with existing SE account”, which I do, but when clicking next it tells me to create a new service account?
When checking Mogstation is says I got all editions on PS4 as well
short sparrow
That's weird. Is there some way you're confusing which of the two buttons is which?
little swift
Assign yourself the relevant job roles and the channels should open up @harsh torrent
wintry chasm
click that discord link then you can choose the job roles you want and there will be a resource channel for that job with BiS somewhere
short sparrow
I know that sounds insulting, but trying to find an easy fix.
tawdry python
There is only one button!
agile laurel
@harsh torrent grab role for bard, find #brd_resources, find bis list
tawdry python
Am I allowed to link things here?
wintry chasm
Yes
agile laurel
but if you're looking for cool visuals you won't be impressed, cause bis doesn't look particularly drop-dead amazing
azure kettle
I'm doing this quest naadam and can someone run by me how to do the mission? I can't seem to get off the mount
agile laurel
do you have a vehicle hotbar?
tawdry python
Here is the post I did recently with all the pictures as well;
agile laurel
with like, one of the buttons being 'dismount'?
harsh torrent
@agile laurel @little swift tytyty
azure kettle
@agile laurel no I don't
short sparrow
Have some skills been removed from the game over time?
agile laurel
yes. lots.
short sparrow
My hotbars have 'nu-uh' icons.
agile laurel
yeah, that means it was removed
wintry chasm
@tawdry python When you say it worked for your brother I assume that wasn't the same account was it?
agile laurel
Could be you just run on the mount til it kicks you off, I forget
tawdry python
@wintry chasm Correct, he has his own PSN and SE account
short sparrow
I need to learn how to play again.
agile laurel
what job are you?
wintry chasm
no I don't
@azure kettle There should be
short sparrow
MNK, and TBH most stuff is the same but there were three skills on my hotbar removed, and if I'm serious I don't remember what they even did.
short sparrow
Only level 53 BTW so I won't have the late game skills yet.
agile laurel
potentially fire tackle and 1ip? I don't remember the old mnk stuff
short sparrow
Internal Release is gone.
wintry chasm
Also read the skills again since they might have changed
short sparrow
Steel Peak and Howling Fist are gone.
wintry chasm
also check the role actions and make sure you have them on your hotbars somewhere
short sparrow
But thankfully the core seems the same, progressing through different forms to build the buff.
agile laurel
yep.
limpid lantern
I got a question, when we are trying to hurry the *** up to slay a god why are we sent on fetch quests 5x in a row for meat for a banquet for rich people
limpid lantern
Does that happen often throughout the game though ?
short sparrow
So at the moment I'm in the middle of post ARR but Pre HW content.
And I'm really curious exactly what will happen if I don't finish it by patch day.
proven bay
The remaining quests you have will be changed I'm pretty sure
tawdry python
I have all expansions + arr registered to my existing SE account (seen on my mog) but my PSN doesn’t seem to register that?
short sparrow
Yeah, I got about 50 quests to do, I'm gonna try to finish them just because why not.
agile laurel
woop, it'll make sense eventually
limpid lantern
Wait, quests are gonna be reworked ?
agile laurel
give it a chance
Yeah, the post-game of ARR is currently a very long slog of quests
it's being streamlined a bit
proven bay
I don't actually mind it so far
short sparrow
TBH it's what made me take a break from the game, but I'm not saying I hate it.
It's just that HW sounds interesting, and I wanna be there, not here.
limpid lantern
Thats a good change for me and the gf though since were firs time playthrough
proven bay
A bit of memeing with my friend that I'm running through the slog with every now and again because of all the fetch quests
But overall it's quite enjoyable
short sparrow
Think I can get 'er done before patch day? 🙂
limpid lantern
Also, a real question this time ;
Whats the difference between direct hit rate and critical rate. To me it seems that they are the same with their descriptions but just critical has higher scaling oppurtunities
Also, when is patch day
proven bay
11th of August
agile laurel
one or two but nothing that'd give much pause
iirc the most difficult story trial would be nabriales and that's not exactly difficult just hella annoying
twilit arch
its just an achievement
short sparrow
I'd judge it to be a reference to an old PS1 game as well 😸
harsh torrent
would it be worth waiting for new character restriction being lifted on a world for the xp increase for new players?
limpid lantern
Difference between critical rate and direct hit rate ?
quiet lance
hello I would like to know something, I want to play samurai but I am not lvl 50 except that in the shop I saw that we could buy a tales of adventures journey of a samurai 1-2 is that ca go unlock the samurai for me ? pleas
kind eagle
short sparrow
Jeez, really?
wintry chasm
hello I would like to know something, I want to play samurai but I am not lvl 50 except that in the shop I saw that we could buy a tales of adventures journey of a samurai 1-2 is that ca go unlock the samurai for me ? pleas
If you own Stormblood
short sparrow
How do console players get by if they need 4 hotbars?
wintry chasm
would it be worth waiting for new character restriction being lifted on a world for the xp increase for new players?
@harsh torrent Yes, it's just waiting for a less busy time of day
@limpid lantern direct hits are like mini crits that are more often can heals can't direct hit
quiet lance
what if i buy the bloodstorm adventure tale
it would be good ?
limpid lantern
Alright, thx
raven sage
@quiet lance You don't have to be in stormblood. You just need to own the expansion. So if you do then buying the samurai boost would be enough
slate oak
when do these quests end before i can get into heavensward? :\
kind eagle
How do console players get by if they need 4 hotbars?
@short sparrow yeah i dont know why the game need so much skill
@slate oak
You are in the hell
wintry chasm
You only need 2 hotbars really
short sparrow
@slate oak where are you up to in the game?
wintry chasm
@slate oak Patch quests are 100 but it's better than 2.0 dw
kind eagle
Iirc post arr need like 100
slate oak
gad damn...
short sparrow
If you're still in the ARR Main Scenario, then honestly the new path to HW will be quicker and smoother.
slate oak
i am tired of these 9600 xp at levvel 56...
short sparrow
I just wanna finish the old one because I started it and I've got a weird brain.
quiet lance
@raven sage so I have to buy [Adventure Tales] Journey of a Samurai I-II even though I'm not lvl 50? and even if I don't?
kind eagle
You only need 2 hotbars really
@wintry chasm every class 2hotbar?
raven sage
If you want Samurai right away yes
wintry chasm
More or less Yuki
kind eagle
Full on dmg with no healing?
raven sage
But if you don't own stormblood then you need to buy shadowbringers
short sparrow
BTW on the topic of weird obsession I might have, can you still buy the CE of a previous expansion for the bonus items?
wintry chasm
digitally yes on mogstation
short sparrow
Noice.
Cause otherwise there's a part of my brain that would be telling me "You fool, you missed out" and yeah I know that happens all the time in MMOs anyway, but you understand?
wintry chasm
Yeah
Only thing you miss out on in terms of stuff like that is the preorder items and I guess the physical collector's edition physical stuff
short sparrow
Physical swag I don't want, I live in a small appartment. Hehe