questions-and-help

[elfin edge]

at least for the older ones

I'm still on book 7/9 though for my WHM heh

[gilded summit]

Query: Friend has previously bought n subbed to 14. She's interested in returning, and she and I was wondering; can she access the F2P version/way of play, as long as her accounts inactive? (Inactive for over a year) or once you sub, you cant do F2P anymore?

[little swift]

no you can't return to the trial once you upgraded to full version

[gilded summit]

Bugger. I forget, does referral/reinvite to return give a bit of free time or no?

or just the feather benefits ns tuff?

[crimson wind]

Garuda is for aoe yeah?

And Ifrit Single target?

[simple shore]

Pretty much

Thats the very simple way of putting it

[candid raptor]

Reinvite just gives stuff

No game time iirc

[leaden ginkgo]

how do you get from lvl 1-30 on another class when you’ve done all side quests and stuff at that level?

hunting log, leves, palace of the dead

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[halcyon grail]

I just got an armor that covers head and chest, is there a way to open the visor?

[candid raptor]

Prolly not if it's the one I'm thinking of

Try /visor

[halcyon grail]

No joy

I’ll probably outgrow it soon enough

[simple shore]

The worst part about those crappy armors

is that your neck stops working

Thankfully they cease to exist after early-50 ARR

[fervent silo]

What are the controls for housing?

can't find anything on google

[remote lintel]

what controls

[tardy storm]

There is one lv 70 gear that's that cursed gear type for casters and healers

and sadly it is one of the best pieces for eureka

one of.

[fervent silo]

@remote lintel how do i rotate and move items?

[remote lintel]

it should tell you at the top of the screen

[little swift]

you have to switch to the rotate mode

then select the item

to rotate

[gloomy mortar]

Are windows allowed to be installed inside a FC room?

Or are they outdoor only

[little swift]

@fervent silo here's your controls. the highlighted one is for moving the item. the one next to it is for rotating

depends on the type of window

[fervent silo]

then how do i move the item?

[gloomy mortar]

Is there a name or designation or do you have to google every crafted window to see if you can place it inside a FC room?

[fervent silo]

wasd or any other buttons do nothing

[white ether]

Hey I resubscribed and I have 5 days left for the free play period will the 30 days show up after?

[leaden ginkgo]

is there a place where I can store my triad cards?

they take too much space in my inventory

[gloomy mortar]

Right click to use the cards

[tulip plover]

What does a voidal resonator do?

Oh nvm

[leaden ginkgo]

Right click to use the cards
@gloomy mortar wow thanks, I didn't know they worked like that. Is there something I can do with my extra copies of the cards?

[remote lintel]

turn them in for mgp

[little swift]

@fervent silo click the item you want to move then move it

it has to have the arrows below it

[gloomy mortar]

@leaden ginkgo Go to the Gold Saucer to trade in cards

[leaden ginkgo]

ok, thx

[gloomy mortar]

“Triple Triad Card Trader”

[leaden ginkgo]

I'll find it, thank you

[little swift]

Is there a name or designation or do you have to google every crafted window to see if you can place it inside a FC room?
@gloomy mortar it should say whether its an outdoor or indoor furnishing

on the tooltip

[leaden ginkgo]

do I lose my cards if I lose a battle with somebody?

[remote lintel]

no

[little swift]

to trade dungeon gear/poetics gear

sergeant 2nd class

[gloomy mortar]

I killed a Rank A mark with 2 others; got centurion seals and 10 Phantasgoria tombstones. However, I joined a big hunt train, killed 3 Rank A Mark’s and just got seals, no Phantasgoria tombstones. What happened? Didn’t do enough damage to get them?

[little swift]

not enough contribution

enmity is the best way to earn contribution for your party

also having more people in your party helps

yes

[trail prairie]

weird question but what's the highest ilvl you can get from Duty Roulette right now?

i assume DR: Expert

[little swift]

dr:expert gets you 455

[gloomy mortar]

Hunt trains are useless then, because those have at least 20 participants. You can’t do enough damage; it does in about 30 secs

[little swift]

anamnesis anyder

trains are great

you just run a bunch of tanks and spam the range aggro move in tank stance if you have to

[gloomy mortar]

I’m a DPS not tank

[little swift]

do more damage

[trail prairie]

dr:expert has the highest ilvl in 'em

[little swift]

no it does not

[trail prairie]

oh

which one does

[little swift]

but the highest you can earn in dr:expert is 455

[remote lintel]

you need to be in a party admiral

you wont do enough by yourself

[little swift]

parties are the only way to properly participate in trains

[gloomy mortar]

I was in a party

[remote lintel]

a full party?

[little swift]

highest ilvl possible is from eden's verse savage, which awards gear at ilvl500

[remote lintel]

with tanks?

[trail prairie]

does... do the DR: normal raids include those?

[little swift]

but for people not interested in super hard endgame content

edens verse normal and your allegory gets your 480/490

[remote lintel]

normal raids dont include savage

[gloomy mortar]

With the train, I was one of 8; full party. There were at least another dozen participants

[little swift]

normal raids include the normal version

clearly you guys didn't contribute enough

[remote lintel]

were there tanks

[gloomy mortar]

When I did it without a party, it was just me and 2 random people not in a party

[little swift]

if its just 3 people ofc you'll get more contribution

its only the 3 of you attacking

you do more total damage = more contribution

[gloomy mortar]

So hunt trains only work if you have too many people

[remote lintel]

no

they work if you do damage

[gloomy mortar]

That explains why everyone raced to kill the marks

[remote lintel]

everyone kills marks fast because they want it to be over

[gloomy mortar]

We said wait until everybody arrives. They just went ahead and attacked

[little swift]

some people early pull

and in trains you go to the mark position as soon as its called

[gloomy mortar]

We thought that was a jerk move, but the alternative is you go on a hunt train and don’t get the rewards

[remote lintel]

i mean it was

assuming it was a planned train

and they were in the gathering stage

[gloomy mortar]

It was a planned stage

[little swift]

you can put up party finders to get more people to join your party

so that your overall group contribution is higher

[remote lintel]

alternatively become tank and spam provoke

[little swift]

spam your ranged aggro move*

[remote lintel]

and provoke

[little swift]

unfortunately they hav enot buffed provoke to be spammable yet

[gloomy mortar]

How do you do damage as a healer?

[remote lintel]

you press the damage button?

[little swift]

you also get contribution through healing

[heady flare]

there are abilities that do damage as a healer

[remote lintel]

yes?

[heady flare]

in a hunt train you should be part of a full party in order to get full credit. everyone should be doing damage to the mark. it does help if there is a tank, but its certainly not necessary. just do enough damage to earn credit

[remote lintel]

healers don't just sit around until someone needs healing

[heady flare]

I was giving more context for @gloomy mortar than just "press the damage button" i figured that would be self explanatory

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[verbal granite]

QQ: Is there a wiki or something lore-specific that I should read before starting to play FFXIV? Not looking for spoilers on the story in game, more like, background knowledge leading up to the events of the game?

[remote lintel]

no

but i can tell you a few things that would help you understand where the game starts

[verbal granite]

Sure!

[remote lintel]

so back when the game launched in 2010 it had a completely different story, it's known as 1.0

[little swift]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXc0loyuq9I
here's a link to the 1.0 stuff if you're interested in that

[remote lintel]

but the game was really really bad so they decided to completely reset it and start from scratch

[little swift]

but its not a necessity to know about it before you jum pin

[remote lintel]

so they canonically did this in game by having a meteor descend from the sky

this is called "the calamity" in game and it destroyed the land

[heady flare]

the game sorta goes over it but sorta doesnt

[tardy storm]

It'd be nice if they one day recreated 1.0 to be, y'know, less shitty and turned it into a sort of flashback zone

[remote lintel]

the calamity was 5 years ago, which is also when 1.0 reset and created 2.0

aka A Realm Reborn

so you'll see npcs reference that a lot

[verbal granite]

Wait, only 5 years between the meteor impact and the start of the game? So, wasteland?

[remote lintel]

not wasteland

theyve been rebuilding

[tardy storm]

All NPCs basically say "yeah we dont remember anything about it lol" dont they?

outside of when it happened

[remote lintel]

they dont remember the warriors of light from back then

[remote lintel]

aka the 1.0 players

[queen cove]

any furniture I could use to potentially fill this gap?

[verbal granite]

Gotcha

[heady flare]

in game lore, basically the Empire summoned Dalamud which is a big ol' moon and dropped it on fools. Louisoix sent our characters 5 years in the future so we dont die or something like that

[remote lintel]

that's explained in game

[crimson wind]

I'm pressing Sic in my actions menu, but my Egi's order isnt changing

[remote lintel]

and he didn't teleport them into the future

[heady flare]

thats where the game starts

[crimson wind]

Why is this happening?

[tardy storm]

there's a cutscene for 2.x that you can watch in the main menu that features the end of 1.0

[remote lintel]

did you select a target Wol

[crimson wind]

Goddamnit

[remote lintel]

lmfao

[cold crescent]

yoyo

[verbal granite]

Watching the video shared, thanks for all the info!

[cold crescent]

anyone kno how to get second lieutenant in my grand company

[remote lintel]

do your adventurer squadron things

[cold crescent]

been workin on thaaaaaat. is there a specific milestone i gotta hit? pretty anxious to get some maelstrom glamour lol

[remote lintel]

you have to do those flagged mission things and also 5 different command missions

maybe some other things im forgetting

[little swift]

You unlock squadrons at 2nd lt

[remote lintel]

oh

isn't it just spamming promotions with seals until then?

and the quests

[little swift]

Gc Hunting log rank2

And the

Which iirc makes you do a dungeon

[remote lintel]

which you can unsync if youre high lvl

[little swift]

Possibly aurum vale

@cold crescent finish your gc hunt log rank 2 and the bluequest gilding the bilious

[delicate stream]

How does entry sub work if I have characters on different data centers

Worlds*

On one data center

[heady flare]

i think you can have one character on each world if you are an entry sub

[little swift]

That's correct

Maximum 8 characters

If you had more than one char on a world it automatically chooses the first char on the list

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[unreal aspen]

i know tanxiety is a meme but does anybody have any tips on getting over it? I pull as much as i can according to party gear, cycle my cooldowns appropriate, mitigate tankbusters, face the boss away, and everything else people say to do, but i just always feel like i'm doing a terrible job and it stresses me out. people said to just run dungeons until i got over it, but i have 1 tank at 79 and two more at 48-49 from purely dungeons, and i still get stressed in pretty much every dungeon

[hot crane]

RDM and BLM, which one is easier, also less skill order demand?

[heady flare]

it really just takes getting used to. to me it sounds like you're doing a good job

RDM is easier than BLM IMO

[unreal aspen]

rdm is much easier

[hot crane]

ok red mage for my new class then

and it rez too

[heady flare]

RDM is probably the easiest job in the game to learn

[hot crane]

rly?

whm is super ez

[unreal aspen]

yea, simple rotation, ranged, good mobility

[hot crane]

I thought it's the most ez one already

[little swift]

Whm is easier but out of the casters rdm is easiest

[hot crane]

I have, drg, gnb and whm now.

[little swift]

Sofi it might just be tanking isnt for you. Which is perfectly fine

[hot crane]

drg is the hardest one for me

gnb is just uh, for fun.

[little swift]

Tanxiety is one of those things were it suddenly clicks for some people that its nothing to be afraid of

But it might never happen and thats ok

[heady flare]

i had a lot of anxiety about tanking when i started doing it cause i always felt like the success of the party was based on my performance

[little swift]

And the biggest thing is know its okay to make mistakes

[hot crane]

it is

but remember

[little swift]

My static gets on my ass about cleaving them with tankbusters and such

[hot crane]

ur the most rare class so

ur the real boss

[little swift]

Yet I do it anyways because I have fun

[unreal aspen]

yeah i just want the amaro sadly : (

[little swift]

Your enjoyment is most important here

[hot crane]

u die, some bi*** about u, u can ask him to leave or u leave

ezpz

[heady flare]

now in dungeons i prefer taking the tank cause its pretty much just using your aoes and popping a cooldown every once in a while

[hot crane]

jk lol

[heady flare]

which tank are you using?

[unreal aspen]

im lvling pld/war right now

and i have drk at 79

for some reason drk just feels a lot easier but i think maybe

arr dungeons are harder for some reason LOL

[little swift]

Drk has the tbn padding 70+

[twilit arch]

well drk at 70 has its best skill, with tbn

[little swift]

Feels good

[heady flare]

ARR dungeons are more easier to ge lost in

[twilit arch]

so it makes 70-80 feel easier, imo

[heady flare]

i get turned around so much in arr dungeons haha

[unreal aspen]

i have the map constantly open LMAO

[heady flare]

later dungeons are very linear

[unreal aspen]

but its a lot of

[little swift]

Arr is a bit of a mixed bag since you don't have all your tools

[unreal aspen]

me desperately begging people to do the mechs rigiht

like standing in the glowy crystals in dzemael

[little swift]

It's not on you to control stupid

[heady flare]

yeah you cant help that unfortunately

[simple shore]

Its alot easier when you're playing tank or healer, because you've filled 50% of the slots where stupid can absolutely fuck you into being unable to finish.

Dipshit DPS makes you go slower. Dipshit tank or healer potentially means you cant clear.

DPS doesnt really get any say in success rate until raids

[heady flare]

i do still get nervous in trials and raids when tanking but it tends to go ok

in 24 mans its just a matter of figuring out whos main tanking

[little swift]

Take it from someone who regularly murders his entire static (me) don't think too hard about whats going right or wrong

Just play

If someone has valid feedback, great

If they sound like an asshat

Ignore

[fallen lotus]

hmm friend of mine questioned me about "auto run to target" option

i mean she meant if she clicked object in 50 meters from her

so she would like to have a control where character will walk near this object and talk/pick-up it etc.

[twilit arch]

there's nothing like bdo's path to objective

[simple shore]

That doesnt exist

[twilit arch]

best you can do is hit auto run to start running but you still have to direct your character

[simple shore]

and thank god it doesnt, because botting would be a hundred times worse

[kind burrow]

hey umm, i'v just seen a reddit post about HW being included in the free trial, is that true???

[heady flare]

yes in 5.3

[kind burrow]

in the free trial or free with the main game?

[heady flare]

it releases on the 11th

in the free trial

[kind burrow]

oh my...

[heady flare]

free trial is up to level 60

[kind burrow]

servers are going to be PACKED XD

[twilit arch]

both

[heady flare]

i hope so.

[twilit arch]

free trial and the starter edition are being upgraded

[kind burrow]

is the trade option going to be available?

[heady flare]

always love seeing sprouts

[kind burrow]

for everyone?

yeah me too

[twilit arch]

current free trial limits are still going to be in place for free trial users

[heady flare]

restrictions for free trial will be the same.

so no marketboard

[kind burrow]

ah i see, oh well, still amazing, thanks for the info!

[leaden ginkgo]

So

Guaranteed VIII Combat Materia
So far seems to be... Adventurer on Need, Pixie Shop, Nuts Vendor...

[heady flare]

a ranks

[leaden ginkgo]

Is there any im missing?

They can drop like, the Clusters?

[heady flare]

yeah

its useful to do hunt trains to farm em

[leaden ginkgo]

rightright

Any other?

The Alliance raids drop one a week too, right?

The Nier one

[heady flare]

im not sure.

[robust crow]

okay, so a serious question

how hard would you estimate it is to get top 12 in ishgard resto leaderboards

[heady flare]

tbh i tend to do hunt trains for em cause you get a ton

[robust crow]

that saint ascendant title is really nice and I want to get it...

[heady flare]

you gotta go hard in the crafting to get on the boards

[robust crow]

yeah, that's what it seems like

just want to know how hard

like, 16 hours a day crafting hard?

[heady flare]

people who are serious about that i know spent all their play time crafting

[robust crow]

fuckin hell

i don't know if my chair is smelly enough to do that

[heady flare]

yeah its rough

i couldnt do it haha

[robust crow]

sigh, that title is super nice

[heady flare]

it is a nice title

but there are others!

personally, I'm a fan of God of Magic

[robust crow]

been using Living Memory

what are the requirements for god of magic?

[heady flare]

all casters level 70

[robust crow]

that

is easier than I thought it would be

[leaden ginkgo]

that includes healers

[robust crow]

only missing BLM and AST

[heady flare]

i also like "Shot Heard Across Worlds"

[leaden ginkgo]

What's the starter guide command?

[candid raptor]

@robust crow I got top12 as a gatherer in the last one and it took unhealthy amounts of time

Talking a minimum of 6 hours/day

[robust crow]

how long is the ranking period again?

[candid raptor]

10 days

[robust crow]

and you mean 6 hours a day in diadem, right?

[candid raptor]

Yes

But that was my chill days

[robust crow]

that would still reward the saint ascendant title, no?

[candid raptor]

Most days I did 12hours or so

And yes

[robust crow]

ah jeez...

[candid raptor]

Titles are the same for crafter/gather3r

Safe to say I am NOT doing this again

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[neon matrix]

The new "free" trial requirements are kinda weird, huh? New players can play for free, but my old account with one level 5 character on it isn't eligible.

[candid raptor]

It is free, no need for the quotation marks

The trial simply requires a fresh account

Or an account that already was on trial status

[neon matrix]

Yea, I guess buying the game counts as a non-trial account?

[wintry chasm]

Yes

You can't own the game and be on the free trial

Not exactly...free then

[neon matrix]

Seems odd that people that don't buy the game can play for free, but someone that bought the game doesn't have the same access

[wintry chasm]

People who are on the free trial don't have access to everything

[neon matrix]

Yea, for sure. I guess it would make sense to drop non-subbed accounts back to free trial status instead though.

[candid raptor]

Errr

No?

Tons of people unsub between patches

[wintry chasm]

Tbh I'm not sure what the question is in here

[neon matrix]

My question was whether or not I could play as a free trial with an old barely touch account.

[candid raptor]

This is prolly beter suited for #rants , agreed

[leaden ginkgo]

if you bought the game no

you'll have to sub again to play

[neon matrix]

So I'm better off making a new account then 🙂

[wintry chasm]

Maybe

[candid raptor]

And since you only have a lvl 5 you might as well make a new account

[leaden ginkgo]

if you didn't buy like the complete edition while not on sale, yea

[wintry chasm]

Worth mentioning I guess that we don't knew if people on the free trial now will automatically be upgraded to the new version on August 11th

Soo

[candid raptor]

Didn't they say they will?

Trial will be trial

[wintry chasm]

Not really

When they changed it last time from limited time and 30 levels to unlimited time to 35 it didn't upgrade automatically

[candid raptor]

Yeh but there was the time stipulation back then

[wintry chasm]

Right which is why who knows now

[neon matrix]

Oh, has the new free trial stuff not activated yet?

[wintry chasm]

No

[neon matrix]

Ahhh okay

[candid raptor]

11th of august

[wintry chasm]

It seems to be a patch 5.3 launch thing

[neon matrix]

Sorry, I was told it had.

[wintry chasm]

Nah it was just announced the other day is all

[neon matrix]

Well, I'll check back in then I guess 🙂

[visual grotto]

is it worth to do all the relic weapon quests?
for equipment, that is. or is it just for glamour at this point

[unreal aspen]

the current ones?

old relic weapons are just for glam

[visual grotto]

do i need to do the old ones to unlock the new ones?

[robust crow]

it's not worth it at all to do the old relics for usable equipment

[unreal aspen]

nope

[simple shore]

Everything except the current ShB ones are glamour at this stage

[robust crow]

it's 100% just for glam

[simple shore]

and no, you dont need to do old

[unreal aspen]

current ones are good

better than crafted gear, and if u don't have the stuff for crystarium its the best u can get besides i think?

ruby weapon ex, with dont have 5 meld slots

• are at the same ilvl

[kind burrow]

@leaden ginkgo Latest materia drops from lvl 80 dungeons as well, from brown coffers i believe

[visual grotto]

okay, then i can safely skip the quests, (might do it later for glamour, hit 50 2 days ago)
thank you

[simple shore]

The only thing you should worry about if you just hit 50 is MSQ / Job Quests and maybe doing the Crystal Tower raids (really those just need to be out of the way before ShB optimally)

[robust crow]

alliance raid roulette is worth a good chunk of exp

worth doing just to get that

[simple shore]

Eh, roulettes kind of a waste of time when you're on your first job though. MSQ will carry you.

[visual grotto]

i dont think i have unlocked crystal tower yet

just did the quest for ifrit hard mode

[robust crow]

it's not part of your msq

you have to go out of your way to do it

but it's worth it

[simple shore]

Unlock starts at Mor Dhona (X: 21.8 Y: 8.1). Outlandish Man will have quest "Legacy of Allag"

[visual grotto]

do you recommend doing all the blue unlock quests?

[simple shore]

No

[visual grotto]

cause there are a lot for me in mor

[simple shore]

Those unlock dungeons, which you can safely ignore for now

[unreal aspen]

crystal tower will also be mandatory to complete future story content

[simple shore]

Come back for them later

You dont have to do Crystal Tower series right now, but its strongly reccomended that you do Crystal Tower / Syrcus Tower / World of Darkness (its a three raid questline) before reaching Shadowbringers.

[unreal aspen]

also i would def recc doing it before continuing too far in the msq if you care abt plot, bc it's kinda weird if you're super far ahead bc everyone acts like you're still in arr LOL

[visual grotto]

okay, thank you very much for your advice

[simple shore]

However, blue unlock quests are important once you move on into Heavensward. Check to see if they give an Aether Current as a reward - if so you should do them, because they'll help you unlock flying in that zone.

Just FYI

[viscid gull]

I speak English and live in Europe, what server should I play on?

[forest laurel]

either light or chaos datacentres

[viscid gull]

I figured that out, but I heard that some servers speak French or German and I don't know which ones are active :\

[forest laurel]

all of them are active

also "speak French and German" just means unofficial community

there are still english speakers on those servers

iirc it's Louisoix and Moogle in Chaos that are unofficial French
and Shiva in Light that's unofficial German

[viscid gull]

I'll try my luck in Omega then.

ty

[wet cradle]

is doing potd 1-10 still relevant for fast leveling?

or is there a better method?

[dusty jungle]

51-60 is better

[obsidian wren]

Lv 21-50 or so GC squadrons are pretty good too if you have them unlocked

And as tank/healer doing the highest available non-50/60/70 dungeon too

[tight sapphire]

which is more frequently needed for Duties? Tank? Healer?

[unreal aspen]

in my experience tank queues pop a little faster for most?

but thats purely anecdotal

alliance raid roulette seems faster on healer, probably bc theres one more in each party than tank

[wintry chasm]

Healers then tanks

Also yeah tanks have a slower time in alliance

[unreal aspen]

though idk if there's a difference between datacenters or anything

[wintry chasm]

For NA Crystal is more RP focused

[leaden ginkgo]

Which crafter should I level 2nd that has most benefits to my FC? I did GSM already

[wintry chasm]

Primal and Aether are basically the same

[unreal aspen]

o yea i meant for queue times

[obsidian wren]

Bsm can make quite a few weapons & tools i guess

[wintry chasm]

which is more frequently needed for Duties? Tank? Healer?
While healers are quicker than tanks they are both super fast

@leaden ginkgo honestly level them all up

[obsidian wren]

Goldsmith also needs a rair amount of mats made by alchemist iirc

[leaden ginkgo]

Dont have the time nor the gil to do them all

[obsidian wren]

^

[wintry chasm]

It's easier to level them all at once than one at a time

It's cheaper even

[unreal aspen]

whattypeof fc do u have?

[obsidian wren]

Beast tribes are a pretty good way to passively level them up

[unreal aspen]

cul/alch are the best if you do endgame raids and stuff

[leaden ginkgo]

@obsidian wren Most items I need while crafting as GSM are items from miner

[slate arrow]

if you don't have the gil then how in the heck did you level GSM up

[unreal aspen]

but otherwise it depends on what you're trying to do

[wintry chasm]

It's faaaaar cheaper to do them at the same time. Time is a fair concern but Gil is not

[leaden ginkgo]

@slate arrow Have you heard of the great invention called Ishgard Restoration?

[unreal aspen]

gc turn ins + ishgard resto are easy cheap exp

[wintry chasm]

Also custom delivery

[slate arrow]

I'm sorry, I'm a nerd who leveled before ishgard slapped because the Leve buff hit before the ishgard restoration dropped

[wintry chasm]

Leves are probably still faster but Ishgard is soooo easy to do materials wise

Which is why everyone does it Industrial

[slate arrow]

honestly I wish more of this stuff dropped before I maxed out all my jobs

[leaden ginkgo]

Which crafter benefits most with me having miner?

[slate arrow]

I would've loved to use save the queen to level my jobs to 80

[leaden ginkgo]

Other than GSM

[slate arrow]

BSM and ARM

[wintry chasm]

Stuff like BSM and ARM

But ya know, they all need it in some way

It's not black and white

[leaden ginkgo]

Yeah but crafters like GSM

I only need to buy an item or 2

The rest I just mine

[wet cradle]

you can level up by doing GC squadrons???

[unreal aspen]

pretty much all crafting classes beside culinarium use crossover mats from other crafters

[tidal yarrow]

can I do sss while in queue?

[simple pine]

I keep getting "invalid request" when trying to purchase the complete edition on the SE store, i've tried paypal and credit card, has anyone had this happen before? and anything i can do? or just try again another time?

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[obsidian patio]

@tidal yarrow I don't think so since you kinda queue for it?

[wintry chasm]

how do i do squadron stuff
Have to rank up enough in the grand company to second lieutenant and then go into the door to the left and you do squadron stuff there

[stuck geode]

remind me pls how to remove squadron member. im about to get new one, but cant apply

[obsidian patio]

I think you can immediately replace them with new recruits?

[wintry chasm]

You just accept the new person and you have to pick someone to kick out

[stuck geode]

there just 3 options. question, postbone, and dismiss

[obsidian patio]

Interact with the papers on the desk to see new recruits

[stuck geode]

i did

[wintry chasm]

Question them

[stuck geode]

there is just video of greating

[obsidian patio]

and what do the text boxes say after the greeting?

[stuck geode]

ah ok got it

[wet cradle]

guys can you level your own class by doing GC squadron missions or how does that work?

[warped nest]

Yes

You queue for dungeons by talking to the squadron guy inside your GC squadron meeting room

[wet cradle]

oh that's cool thank you!

[warped nest]

Have fun

[leaden ginkgo]

(Effect is halved above lvl 70) So am I getting 75% boost or only getting 3 mil boosted?

[limpid lantern]

Hello, if i do hall of novice training on a second class, do i get the armour again ?

E.g. i have done it as a marauder and gotten the plate armor, leveling a rogue now, can i do the dps ttaining stuff to get the leather version ?

[obsidian patio]

@leaden ginkgo 75%

And yes woop

[leaden ginkgo]

So is it still worth it to stay in Diadem 70-80?

[limpid lantern]

Awesome ^^ thanks for the quick response

[unreal aspen]

is it possible to get the nier raid in alliance roulette?

or is it locked out

[warped nest]

You can get it

Just very unlikely

[unreal aspen]

oh ok

yeah ive never gotten anything other than crystal tower but maybe i can hope someday

[wintry chasm]

MSQ but you can talk to the barkeeper in Ishgard to get another one

ooooooooone second

[obsidian patio]

Try talking to Gaufrid in Rhalgr's Reach

they can replace it too

not sure about the equivalent for Shadowbringers.

[twilit arch]

jesswren

[wintry chasm]

Yeah I can talk to Gibrillont and get it

Might just be the sidequest blocking it

Weird though

[tidal yarrow]

I was in the trial emanation, at a certain point I had a big arrow on my head and I got oneshotted right after

what should have I done to save myself?

[wet cradle]

is there a channel for useful resources?

especially regarding GC squadrons

[obsidian patio]

The only real squadron-related resource we have is this one, which lets you put in your squadron stats/levels/class, along with trainings, to find optimal set-ups for missions http://www.ffxivsquadron.com/

[simple shore]

Been a long ass time since i've done Emanation, but i'm like.....fairly sure that wasnt your fault.

[wet cradle]

thanks!

[wintry chasm]

Yeah sounds like a stack up marker

[warped nest]

Is it a circle with 4 arrow pointing at you from 4 direction

[wintry chasm]

where you're meant to group up to share the damage

[simple shore]

Oh, well, if its that its probably your fault

lol

[tidal yarrow]

oh lol

[warped nest]

  v
>   <
  ^

[tidal yarrow]

I thought the opposite and went at the edge

[wintry chasm]

Nice try Chronos

[simple shore]

Yeah if i see someone with a stackup marker run away from the boss i laugh and let them die.

Not gonna chase a stackup

[warped nest]

The norm is to stack up on the bosses' ass

But there are exceptions depending on the fight

[leaden ginkgo]

Does using 2 manuals make it 12 mil?

[tidal yarrow]

well, nice to know for next time :3

[humble maple]

Does rested exp have a cap? I went on vacation for like 10 days and have since constantly had rested exp

[leaden ginkgo]

1.5 levels

Thats the cap

[obsidian patio]

manuals don't stack, AFAIK

they'll simply replace whatever amount was left with the new one

[warped nest]

Just want to clarify on rested exp, it is not a fix amount, it is 1.5 bar, so if you level up a really low level job, it will go through the 1.5 bar significantly faster

[leaden ginkgo]

Ah

[simple shore]

Oh, huh. I found a site with an explanation of markers that is sufficiently trolly for me.

@tidal yarrow read and learn

https://entereorzea.home.blog/2019/07/31/aoes-101/

[unreal aspen]

what's the best way to get exp while in queue for a duty?

[warped nest]

Beast tribe, daily hunt bill, FATEs

[mossy tartan]

Is there a way to extend the time before I’m labeled as AFK by the game?

[simple shore]

Not via any 'rule abiding' means. Though why do you care? The game doesnt autokick you for being AFK like other MMO's

[twilit arch]

if you haven't changed the settings, iirc its like 5mins

but you can change in character config

[mossy tartan]

Most of the time I’m just on my phone next to the PC waiting for a duty, so I’m not AFK in some sense

[twilit arch]

not character, system config

[mossy tartan]

Will check it, ty

[twilit arch]

its in the other settings ection

[warm rover]

Lvl 42 now, which area is best to lvling to 50

[simple shore]

For an alt job? Queue stone vigil until your eyes bleed if you're out of roulettes for the day.

At 44 switch over to Dzmael Darkhold

[rough lance]

for anima wep, how do i check the density needed ?

[simple shore]

basically you should always queue (whatever the highest dungeon is) if you dont have roulettes

[rough lance]

nvr show how much more density needed

[obsidian patio]

You should have an anima glass in your inventory or key items that was given to you by Ardashir, if not try talking to them again

[rough lance]

yea... the glass didn't say anything

i tried talking to them they said 75% chance of failing

[obsidian patio]

just keep completing duties then

level 50-60 content completed with the weapon equipped slowly fills up the invisible bar for it

[rough lance]

urgh blinding completing duty >.<

[obsidian patio]

which are symbolized by the glowing runes on the page

[rough lance]

unsync runs also able to increase the density?

[obsidian patio]

yes

[simple shore]

Thats the only type of runs you should do

[obsidian patio]

for solo grinding, you can run the various level 50 dungeons with most people preferring Brayflox Longstop Hard mode.

if you're willing to get a group for it, you can run A9S (Eyes of the Creator - Savage)

[rough lance]

oh

ok thanks

[obsidian patio]

the fight goes down extremely fast with a full group of level 80 players to the point that you see 0 mechanics

[rough lance]

i see

thanks

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[tidal yarrow]

@tidal yarrow read and learn

https://entereorzea.home.blog/2019/07/31/aoes-101/
awesome

[acoustic lichen]

Is it possible to level skip a samurai as a fresh account

So completely new se account

[twilit arch]

yes, so long as you've got stormblood on your account you can buy a level skip for samurai

[acoustic lichen]

So start pug

And it’ll still jump

[twilit arch]

it doesn't matter what class you start as

the job skips only care about whether you have the appropriate expansion applied to your account

as they unlock and complete all of the job quests up to lvl 70

[wintry chasm]

also FYI expansion jobs don't care what class/job you start as anyway

[tight sapphire]

Whats the difference between a class and a job? Is a dragoon an upgraded lancer?

[twilit arch]

essentially, yeah

classes are more or less a relic of 1.0 that they can't really get rid of

[tidal yarrow]

if I'm at "for the living and the dead", how far am I into stormblood?

[twilit arch]

why none of the expansion jobs have a base class either

you're close ish to the end of 4.0

like 13 quests or so until "Stormblood"

[tight sapphire]

So I rock Lancer til lvl 60, then I get dragoon to get my full playset?

[twilit arch]

you should be a dragoon by 30

[tight sapphire]

I'm at lvl 20, I got 5 skills. I feel like I could kill these couatls faster with my bare hands.

[tidal yarrow]

like 13 quests or so until "Stormblood"
you mean shadowbringers?

[wintry chasm]

Yeah you'll get another 8 skills by the time you hit 50 Edit: NOT 80

No Yuuko

That's not taking into account patch content

You're close to finishing the Stormblood base game

[tidal yarrow]

and then what remains before shadowbringers?

[wintry chasm]

The stormblood patch quests

It's....42 quests long?

[tidal yarrow]

ahh oki

holy

hope they're good :3

[twilit arch]

40

[wintry chasm]

HW patch quests were 44(?)

[twilit arch]

yes, post hw was 44

[wintry chasm]

Least I got one right

So you can use that as a comparison

[agile laurel]

Am I right in thinking Titan-egi's aoe is a smidge wider than the rest of the egi's aoe range?

[twilit arch]

nope

earthen fury is 5y

same as garuda's

[vernal bramble]

what was this skill? i saw this from a 2014 ffxiv vid

[agile laurel]

Ah, fair enough

[twilit arch]

that would be flash, a skill that no longer exists

[vernal bramble]

ohh, what did it do?

[agile laurel]

it's an aoe provoke

sort of

[twilit arch]

it was pld's aoe ability

did no damage, blinded targets, but generated a lot of aggro

[agile laurel]

yup

[vernal bramble]

ohhhh

[agile laurel]

It kinda perished with the direction of job design moving away from little team debuffs

along with slashing/blunt/etc resistance down

[wintry chasm]

(also it doing no damage sucked)

[twilit arch]

also because pld got a honest AoE ability

[vernal bramble]

how about this one? i don't remember this icon when i hit lvl 50 on my PLD

[agile laurel]

yeah, circle

[twilit arch]

if you're looking at a video from 2014

i would recommend not

because its going to have abilities that no longer exist

[agile laurel]

Honestly most classes have had half or more of their kit changed over the years

[twilit arch]

And most of the information in it is going to be outdated

[vernal bramble]

oh its actually from dudehwereismyspoon. one of the themes lol. was just curious these skills cuz i've never seen them before (cuz ya knw, removed)

[twilit arch]

Ah then that's fine

[wintry chasm]

What is that second skill though. I recognise it but I just can't place it

[twilit arch]

its savage blade

[glass sandal]

how do i get the primal role theres no reaction for it

[agile laurel]

it's

oh wait good point

[azure frost]

Hello! I played the free trial almost a year ago and now that the base game + heavensward is getting free, I thoight about coming back. Problem is, I kinda forgot everything :^). Any good lore videos/gameplay explanations that anyone could recommend? Also I hope I'm using the right channel for this

[agile laurel]

the game is really tailored into new players honestly

[leaden ginkgo]

@glass sandal Add reaction

[agile laurel]

i'd strongly doubt you need anything going into it

[leaden ginkgo]

@azure frost If you played the trial only, shouldnt be too hard to just rewatch the cutscenes while playing

Its only 35 lvls of MSQ

[azure frost]

Fair enough

[agile laurel]

also in my case I played the free trial a long time ago, but on my second attempt i just restarted

that might not be for you though

[azure frost]

I might if my friends decide to start as well

I also heard base game is gonna be more streamlined

[simple shore]

Temper expectations. Its a removal of (ive heard 10-15%) fetch quest type shit from the MSQ. Its not gonna suddenly be half the length.

[simple pine]

can you do MSQ with friends? i think all classes start at a different area?

[simple shore]

I mean, i guess? But really it wouldnt serve a purpose outside of the few dungeons you do.

[twilit arch]

the msq eventually convenes around lvl 15

[oak ice]

They all converge at level 15

[twilit arch]

so at that point everyone will be on the same story quests

There are also a few points in the story where you have to do an instance solo

but outside of those moments, you can group up and quest together

[tight sapphire]

I got 3 commendations! my dudes!

[agile laurel]

So I feel I'm being either very insane or very cursed, but am I correct in thinking Titan is actually the best burst aoe on paper by a considerable margin?

[simple pine]

ok so basically we should all play to 15 individually and then we can group up?

[twilit arch]

yes, titan egi very good for burst aoe

[wintry chasm]

Level 15 main story not actual level 15 just fyi

[agile laurel]

and shite for everything else, then

[oak ice]

A bunch of classes start in the same area

[agile laurel]

in-ter-es-ting

[twilit arch]

he's also very good if you need the shield

[wintry chasm]

At that point in main story all the quests are the same and you unlock the other cities

[agile laurel]

Yeah

[simple shore]

It needs to be a very short burst though

[agile laurel]

mhm

[twilit arch]

in general tho, you're not going to use him that much

[agile laurel]

Might give it a go in some experts cause I like cursed tech

[simple pine]

A bunch of classes start in the same area
@oak ice is there a list somewhere?

[wintry chasm]

The game shows you in character selection

[simple pine]

i see, still waiting for download sorry

[twilit arch]

conjurer/lancer/archer start in gridania, thaumaturge/gladiator/pugilist start in ul'dah and marauder/arcanist start in limsa

[wintry chasm]

Damn it beat me to it

[simple shore]

Same.

[oak ice]

F for Cal 😔

[wintry chasm]

It's worth mentioning rogue starts in Limsa too but you need to choose another class to play first but you can unlock it once you do your level 10 class quest

It's a weird kinda starting class you can't actually start as but you can unlock it pretty early

[tight sapphire]

what classes open at 30? all of em?

[wintry chasm]

Jobs you mean?

[simple shore]

Nothing opens at 30

[wintry chasm]

Well your job

[simple shore]

Yeah but thats like....just renaming your class. I assume he meant something else.

[wintry chasm]

You can only unlock the job that is connected to your class yeah

So lancer -> Dragoon.
Can't do lancer -> Black Mage

[noble ember]

Anyway to transfer gil on the companion app? Like from retainers to myself so I can buy stuff?

[wintry chasm]

Nooo, it's mostly just check your retainers and change pricing

Can't transfer things

[faint cloud]

I am a lvl 53 BLM doing the 7th astral era quests. I have been doing the MSQ and unlocking and doing some of the harder dungeons and trials and got the Ironworks gear with the tombstones I earned. I unlocked the first part of crystal tower but haven't been brave enough to try it yet. Am I on the right track? Anything else I should be (or not be) doing?

[simple shore]

"Brave" enough?

CT is easy. Just go do it

[faint flare]

Crystal tower and 24mans in general are face roll

[wintry chasm]

Finish Crystal Tower, it's casual content

[simple shore]

Its like....nearly impossible to fail it

[faint flare]

24mans are just expanded dungeons

[frigid sigil]

are the lignum vitae accessories currently the best we have for gatherers?

[simple shore]

Yes

[faint flare]

Yes

[simple pine]

what is the difference between chaos/light data center?

[faint flare]

Nothing

[frigid sigil]

kk thx then I can make them seem pretty cheap in mats

[faint flare]

Same physical location

There's new accessories nezt patch

[faint cloud]

Will do. Anything else?

[wintry chasm]

You can unlock the coil stuff too if you want. It's actually really hard if you do it synced but you can use party finder and get some level 80's to kill the bosses in seconds. It's a pretty good story, just challenging if you tried it properly @faint cloud

[faint flare]

Which will be bis for the rest of the expansion

[frigid sigil]

so better to wait?

[faint flare]

Yes

[leaden ginkgo]

Best way to gain a profit with GSM?

[wintry chasm]

Find things that sell well and make it

[simple shore]

Didnt you ask this question an hour ago?

[faint flare]

Stalk the market abd make what sells

[wintry chasm]

There is no "do this one simple trick to make billions of Gil, crafters hate this guy" thing

[simple shore]

Making money on crafters is all the same. Sell housing shit, sell glamour shit, sell stuff that people need for Ishgardian Restoration, sell Neo-Ish stuff (demand might spike on that soon), sell anything that people need for turnins but are too lazy / unable to make themselves.

[wintry chasm]

You actually gotta just be paying attention and find opportunity

[simple shore]

if you're asking the question i doubt it, but if you're melded and ready to go, sell the new shit ASAP on the 11th

massive amounts of money are made in the days following a patch

[wintry chasm]

They don't have all the crafters to 80 yet so that'll be near impossible anyway

Unless they pay an ungodly amount for the materials

[simple shore]

Yeah hence my doubting it

[limpid lantern]

Hello, how do i do trick attack while in combat ? I cant go in hide while in combat

[wintry chasm]

!action suiton

[zinc orbit]

**Suiton** : lvl 45 NIN (1.5 second cooldown)(Instant cast time)

Deals water damage with a potency of 600.
Additional Effect: Grants Suiton
Duration: 20s
Suiton Effect: Allows execution of actions which require the effect of Hidden, without being under that effect
Mudra Combination: Ten→Chi→Jin or Chi→Ten→Jin
Triggers the cooldown of weaponskills, mudra, and Ninjutsu upon execution.

※This action cannot be assigned to a hotbar.

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[wintry chasm]

Gotta wait for this

[limpid lantern]

Ah right ! Thx :D

Sorry if the questions are too nooby xD

[wintry chasm]

It's why we are here

[limpid lantern]

Got a lot of mmo experience but ladt time i played an mmo it was a long time ago

[simple shore]

Very little of what you learn from other MMO's is going to count for much on 14 anyway.

[limpid lantern]

Longer than i though, somewhere 2012 :')

[leaden ginkgo]

Balmerick

[limpid lantern]

@simple shore well i mostly played tank and healer back then so i got the "dont stand in the red circle" part down

[leaden ginkgo]

massive amounts of money are made in the days following a patch
@simple shore How much would you say crafter VII materias will be?

30k?

[wintry chasm]

Hard to say

Also depends on your server a bit

[simple shore]

Ehhhhh

Materia will make some money

[wintry chasm]

It'll go up though for sure

[simple shore]

but the real money is being able to make the new gear

[leaden ginkgo]

I got 600 crafter materias

200 of each

[wintry chasm]

........

What

[simple shore]

people will be exorbitant prices for gear

[leaden ginkgo]

What you read 🙂

[ember goblet]

there will be upgrades to the crafted 480 gear right?

[simple shore]

Seems like a risky investment, if im being honest.

[faint flare]

Yes

[wintry chasm]

There is already an upgrade

To 490

[faint flare]

Neo ishgardian can go to i490

Next patch

[wintry chasm]

Oh right

Yeah

Duh

[leaden ginkgo]

I am trying to make 20 million from those 600 materia, would you guys think its possible?

[simple shore]

Doubt

[faint flare]

Depends

On server and how much it goes up

No one can guess the market

[wintry chasm]

^

[tight sapphire]

I'm gonna get to 60. then I'm gonna need a Free company. Starting with, like, an M. or an R. Bonus if if it ends with an F or S.

[simple shore]

You've saturated yourself too heavily in one small set of items. The problem you're going to have, is that you wont be able to compete effectively.

[wintry chasm]

The market works in mysterious ways

[faint flare]

Especially since dwarves will add in more materia

[simple shore]

Nobody is going to buy 200 at once unless you undercut by an extreme amount.

[leaden ginkgo]

I am not selling 200 at once

[simple shore]

which means you'll have to split into several stacks

[leaden ginkgo]

Aint an idiot

15 materia

at 40 slots

600

[simple shore]

which will make you slower at undercutting than the people selling only a few

etc.

and everyones gonna be unloading those who doesnt need them

[tight sapphire]

anyone here a master mentor?

[simple shore]

"master mentor"?

[tight sapphire]

all three mentor trades. pve, pvp, crafts.

[simple shore]

Oh, that shit.

[tight sapphire]

you get a special symbol.

[faint flare]

Plenty of people

It aint hard

[simple shore]

lol i dont display crowns because its the mark of bad usually

[forest laurel]

wait there's pvp mentors? wtf

[faint flare]

Yeah

They get a flag with their crown

[agile laurel]

there's no actual requirements for pvp mentor

it's just a toggle-on

[twilit arch]

pvp mentor is part of combat mentor

[simple shore]

Yeah understand @tight sapphire - it's meme'd pretty heavily that people who wear the Mentor crowns are usually bad. With decent reason.

lol

[agile laurel]

and yeah, the combat mentor requirement is nothing but a timegate and the crafting mentor requires even less effort

[olive frost]

Hey guys i wanna start the game do i need all the expansions to play and what guides do you recommend to watch for a beginner?:)

[agile laurel]

nowhere in the requirements for being a mentor does it say 'be any good at the game, or a person who should be trusted with this role'

[wintry chasm]

You don't need the expansions to play, just need them to play the expansions

My first recommendation is play the free trial for now

[tight sapphire]

A lot of people are better at this game than me. I learned how to autorun today.

[wintry chasm]

As for advice look in the pins and

!faq newplayertips

[zinc orbit]

Terms & Tips Guide for New Players

reddit post
image

[leaden ginkgo]

Ah this thing

Really benefitted me

Great tips

[agile laurel]

Yeah, the mentor system is heavily and rightfully memed on, cause a lot of the folks in the program are ego tripping and it really gives the minor % that are actually here to help a bad name

[wintry chasm]

It looks worse than it is

[simple shore]

TL;DR - trust advice you get here, but not advice from Novice Network in game or mentors in game.

because that shit isnt moderated at all

[olive frost]

tyvm guys:D
there is no such thing as regular Guilds as in other games right?

[tight sapphire]

FFXIV has Triple Triad? FFVIII Rules and all?

[simple shore]

They're called Free Companies in FF14, Onekill

[wintry chasm]

^

[simple shore]

Same functionality basically

[olive frost]

ty vm

[wintry chasm]

Also more social orientated than raid orientated

[simple shore]

Yeah. Most people do not raid with their FC.

[olive frost]

thats what im lookign for to start the game.)

[agile laurel]

i'm not aware of triple triad rules in other titles but I suppose you may want to unlock the gold saucer asap and go see @tight sapphire

[simple shore]

@tight sapphire yes its the same rules as FFVIII

[tight sapphire]

I have to calm down.

[faint meadow]

I should try triple triad in this game already

I suckeedddd at it in VIII

[agile laurel]

How does one calculate total potency of a dot? Like, is there an actual sum for 50 potency over 9 seconds?

[simple shore]

Yes

[faint meadow]

But I haven't played that in years

[wintry chasm]

Dot damage is every 3 seconds

[agile laurel]

cause surely it's not just a tick every second

[simple shore]

DoT's tick every 3 seconds for the listed potency

So 50 over 9 = 150

[wintry chasm]

So for uh

[agile laurel]

Same for shit like doton?

[gritty oracle]

Can I fish for blue cloud coral (hole is in Cloudtop in sea of clouds) with only skyfishing? Don't have cloudfishing yet.

[faint flare]

Yes

[wintry chasm]

Yep

[tight sapphire]

Where is this Golden Saucer? This place where I belong?

[agile laurel]

aight.

[faint flare]

All dots tick every 3s

[wintry chasm]

!action higanbana

[zinc orbit]

**Higanbana** : lvl 30 SAM (2.5 second cooldown)(1.8 second base cast time)

Delivers an attack with a potency of 250.
Additional Effect: Damage over time
Potency: 40
Duration: 60s Additional Effect: Grants a stack of Meditation, up to a maximum of 3
※This action cannot be assigned to a hotbar.

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[gritty oracle]

unlock it in Ul'dah

[faint flare]

Exception to Flamethrower

[agile laurel]

Gold Saucer unlocks via a quest in Ul'dah

and then you can fly to it

[faint flare]

Which ticks every second

[simple shore]

TL;DR for most classes DoT's are their most powerful abilities.

[wintry chasm]

250 + 40 x 20 = total damage for higanbana

[agile laurel]

Yeah, I was just trying to work out some smn crap

(i actually looked at the potencies for titan assault 2 and enkindle and have realised it's kinda out there)

[twilit arch]

@gritty oracle cloudtop requires cloudfishing, so no skyfishing wouldn't work

[gritty oracle]

ah thanks!

leveled fsh through ocean so I'm severely behind class quests

[tight sapphire]

@agile laurel thank you.

[agile laurel]

once you've unlocked triple triad it's also accessible in a ton more places

and you can get card drops from a crap ton of places too

[tight sapphire]

I didn't refine my card collection in FFVIII; I could not bare to. Not to save the universe.

Zell's MOM gave me that card. You can just eff the eff off,, Ultimecia.

[wintry chasm]

Alright that's enough Pig

[tight sapphire]

anyone know what quest opens you up to the golden saucer?

[faint flare]

It could happen to you

In uldah

At 15

[unborn fox]

is palace of the dead place for alt job leveling?

[faint flare]

Near the aetheryte

Yes

[unborn fox]

is it best way all the way through?

[faint flare]

To 60

[unborn fox]

okay

[tight sapphire]

@faint flare thanks

[faint meadow]

Yea PotD is pretty good for it but

I suggest finding a distraction

And making sure you have enough currency for 50 or 60 gear when you're done

Because it's soul sucking to repeat floors and when you come out you won't have any gear to show for it

[leaden ginkgo]

if tank dies the one with no.1 in the party list will be the next target?

[faint flare]

Whoever is 2nd in aggro

As listed in the party list under their job icon

[leaden ginkgo]

i was looking at the list and tank was no.3

[faint meadow]

It's based on emnity list not party list I believe

They'll pick whoever had the most aggro after tank dies

[twilit arch]

party list does show aggro on current target

[simple pine]

are jobs limited to race?

[leaden ginkgo]

aggro is the white no. right below class icon right?

[twilit arch]

A= indicates this person has aggro on target

[simple shore]

No wilco

[jade quartz]

No, race can be considered purely cosmetic

[twilit arch]

so if the warrior who has A dies, the person with 2 is going to become A

as they are the next highest on aggro

[simple shore]

Lazy WHM hasnt even gotten onto the aggro table yet.

[leaden ginkgo]

i was doing 24man and i noticed our tank had no.1 but no one had A mark in pt, so im assuming it means that another pt had aggro and if the tank in that pt dies our tank is next target?

[jade quartz]

Means tank was no. 1 in your party but the top aggro is in another party yes

[simple shore]

That doesnt mean your tank is next though

[jade quartz]

If the A in the other party died your tank wouldn’t necessarily be next though

Yeah

[faint flare]

He had top aggro in your party

[jade quartz]

Someone else in another party could still be higher.

[agile laurel]

yeah, i've had plenty of instances of being no.1 as dps and still perfectly safe

[faint flare]

Aggro in 24mans is hard to judge

[agile laurel]

the tradeoff being it barely matters anyway

[leaden ginkgo]

oh so if tank with A dies who will most likely be next target? someone from dead tank's pt or one of the two tanks left?

[agile laurel]

hard to tell

[faint flare]

Whoever has more aggro

[agile laurel]

no.1 in your party is simply no.1 in your party

[simple shore]

One of the two tanks left most likely if they arent being dumb.

[jade quartz]

One of the two tanks probably

[agile laurel]

it doesn't factor any other party

[leaden ginkgo]

ohh i see i was trying to figure it out during the run

[simple shore]

But if they're dipshits it could easily be a DPS

[jade quartz]

Not really worth worrying much about

[agile laurel]

so no.1 in the other party, or even no.2 in the other party could be next on the list

thus, why you don't really turn tank stance off and just play smart

[simple shore]

Well

[agile laurel]

well

[simple shore]

You kind of have to

[agile laurel]

within reason

yeah

[gloomy mortar]

Well

[leaden ginkgo]

only way to lower enmity assuming tank doesnt use anything is to just stop attacking right?

[faint flare]

Or die

Thats the best aggro drop

[jade quartz]

Not your problem

[leaden ginkgo]

dead healer is useless healer tho id rather not die

[faint flare]

Aggro is a non issue

All aggro management is basically gone outside of Tanks swaps with shirk

[leaden ginkgo]

is there any skill/role that lowers emnity same way tank can up emnity?

[faint flare]

No

Because there's no need for it

[jade quartz]

Non-consideration

[faint flare]

Aggro is a fucking joke

When the tank can do a few hits then just afk and not lose aggro then you know it's a joke

[faint meadow]

^

Yea there's no need for anyone besides tank to have aggro diversion tools

[gloomy mortar]

^

[faint meadow]

And that's only becauss tank swaps exist

[faint flare]

Tfw auto attacks literally hold aggro for.you

[unborn fox]

are all the dps rotations so easy that most players can pull of their maximum dps?

[leaden ginkgo]

ok so in that 24man in arr, can you rescue people stuck inside the insta death wall

[faint flare]

No

You can only rescue your own party

[faint meadow]

No some classes have more complex rotations than others

[oak ice]

The game is not rocket science, but that doesn't stop people from being bad

[faint meadow]

It's gonna depend on the player and their dedication to getting the mapped rotation correct

[faint flare]

smn noises in the background

[faint meadow]

Lmao I wanted to play summoner but

Fuck that rotation

Lmao

I ain't gonna do it

[faint flare]

I main it and i know the feeling

Least trance rushing is kinda comfy

[unborn fox]

what classes have the most difficult rotation

[faint flare]

Summoner

2min long rotation

[oak ice]

!faq smncycle

[zinc orbit]

The two minute cycle by Edyis Darkbane and Elevation Xx (Faerie)

[faint flare]

And has to deal with pet ai

[oak ice]

The jobs with priority rotations, like Bard, Summoner and Ninja are probably harder to learn, but easier to optimize

[faint flare]

Black.mage has simple rotation but executing it in fights that force you to move, there lies the difficulty

[forest laurel]

where does that even start

[faint flare]

The top

At dreadwyrm

[unborn fox]

so summoner has widest difference in dps between players with similar gear?

[hearty linden]

!faq warcycle

[zinc orbit]

Error!

No tag named warcycle exists, Kupo!

[worldly cape]

hey fellas, can someone tell me what's this quest about? is it worth doing?

what's a relic weapon?

[simple shore]

If you have to ask, the answer is no. TL;DR they're only effective for glamour at this point.

Each expansion cycle has its own set of relics

ShB relics, of course, are current and good.

[worldly cape]

oooh, cool! thank you 🙂

[simple shore]

ARR/HW/SB relics are massive timesinks and only for glamour purposes.

[lavish vortex]

Hi! Can you remove material from an item, and keep both the item and the materia?

[simple shore]

Yes - but for high grade materia (7 and 8) you have a chance to lose it

I think 6 is safe? I cant remember

[lavish vortex]

Thanks! And where/how do you do it?

[simple shore]

Right click the item and select "Retrieve Materia"

"Extract Materia", conversely, is how you get materia from an item that is fully soulbound (i.e. how new materia are created)

[lavish vortex]

Thanks!!!

[leaden ginkgo]

Question for the crafter ability Manipulation.

Isnt that ability just Waste Not II with 2 less CP?

[simple shore]

No

[leaden ginkgo]

Why?

[simple shore]

Because Manipulation always triggers. Whereas Waste Not II does nothing if you use something that doesnt cause durability damage.

[leaden ginkgo]

When I do an action that takes durability it means I just lose 5?

Or I gain 5?

[simple shore]

Additionally, you cannot use Prudent during Waste Not II, but you can use it during Manip

You lose (however much it costs), then you gain 5. Its important to understand that it happens in that order.

[leaden ginkgo]

Yeah ik

Man all those high level abilities make my brain go pepeg

[faint flare]

You lose durability first then gain 5

[leaden ginkgo]

Thats what he said

[simple shore]

Generally in higher level crafting, Waste Not (not II) is reserved for using Groundwork / Prep Touch

since they cost 20

[patent citrus]

7 tanks o_o

how did that happen

[faint flare]

Unsync stuff

[lavish vortex]

What do they mean by inching en E6S?

[faint flare]

Its for conflag strike

You very slowly move in 1 direction as a dps to dodge the line aoes

[lavish vortex]

Oh, thanks! It’s what I’ve been doing then! 🙂