not adventurer squadrons
#questions-and-help
remote lintel
orchid shard
OMG
strong saddle
should i keep doing msq for gear? Im low lvl atm
faint flare
Not past 50
remote lintel
and pick up gear from dungeons
faint flare
Vendot gear post 50 is garbage
faint flare
no
strong saddle
Materia?
halcyon glen
You're really low level then
strong saddle
lol yeah
plain flower
Is there an expiration date on SE keys?
faint flare
No
frank wigeon
is there a MACRO to remove player names and chat other than settings?
strong saddle
why a macro? Im curious why u did it
frank wigeon
im setting up an interactive macro to have hud 1 for casual and hud 2 for hardcore minimised UI
i only have those 2 to change, usernames and chat and ill have my UI created for it
@strong saddle https://imgur.com/a/Xauu9L8
like this
strong saddle
Oh i see
mortal root
whats the difference between individual and shared macros
faint flare
Shared is across all your characters
mortal root
ohh
strong saddle
Why is cure a meme?
frank wigeon
so is there a macro to remove player names? 😄
agile laurel
cure 2 should be used instead of cure 1, simply enough
strong saddle
isnt it better to save mp then ro not waste it all at once on cure 2
remote lintel
you have skills to rebuild mp
strong saddle
Nothings worse than a take who pulls too many
median locust
MP isn't a problem on white mage so it's more important that you heal people up faster
agile laurel
you have lucid dreaming, natural MP regen, thin air eventually, lilies eventually
faint flare
Healers want to be GCD efficient they have plenty of mana
agile laurel
and you're not gonna back to back 10 cure 2's
the whole Freecure meme is a horrible trap for new players that needs to be reworked out of the job
halcyon glen
If you're running out of MP on pre-50 whm, you're probably healing too much
that or your tank is Really Bad
strong saddle
I mean unless the tank is getting hit hard
agile laurel
Yeah, considering post-50 you have a guaranteed 7 seconds of zero damage via spamming holy
strong saddle
cant they just use cooldowns to midigate the dmg
agile laurel
if the tank is getting chunked that hard it's potentially their problem
strong saddle
Or is that bad
twilit arch
they should absolutely be using cds
strong saddle
Like using them too early before a boss
halcyon glen
those are the stupid ones
agile laurel
bosses do sod all damage
halcyon glen
tank CDs should be used in near every pull
twilit arch
Generally, trash hits harder than bosses
faint flare
They do and thats how tanks can wall to wall pull
agile laurel
trash packs do damage
strong saddle
Wait every pull?
twilit arch
so saving cds for bosses is bad
faint flare
Yes
agile laurel
Nobody learns anything by pulling packs one at a time
nova umbra
is there a way to animation cancel limit breaks? The white mage one is so long 😦
faint flare
Dps should be killing shit fast
agile laurel
Pull tons, use cooldowns, get done quicker
median locust
Trash mobs do way more damage than the boss does so they should be saved for trash packs
halcyon glen
No @nova umbra
faint flare
To save healer and tank cooldownd
candid raptor
Try deleting some mails?
strong saddle
I just save them untik the right moment. (I'm a wow guy so this is all new)
candid raptor
Ok just wait now then
median locust
Yeah, in this game you basically don't save skills that much
faint flare
The only health that matters is the lasy
agile laurel
compared to wow, random damage isn't a thing
twilit arch
@leaden ginkgo just be patience. mail can take some time. once its been 24hs+ contact support
agile laurel
just press the button
halcyon glen
yeah dungeon bosses hit for either peanuts or your entire health bar
faint flare
As long as they dony die, its good
agile laurel
if the tank isn't actively on the floor, you're fine
halcyon glen
usually the former
strong saddle
Wakt u serious? So really bosses aren't that bad until higher levels inassume?
agile laurel
plus benediction is your free ticket to literally do next to nothing and spam dps
leaden ginkgo
@twilit arch I deleted some and I got them now! thanks though
halcyon glen
If you die to a dungeon boss, someone wasn;t doing their job
agile laurel
Or an important mechanic was failed
halcyon glen
Raids and Trials
twilit arch
even in harder content, damage comes out as pretty specific times
agile laurel
In wow, bosses hurt more than trash. In XIV, technically that's correct if people are pulling trash packs one at a time, which is often wholly unnecessary and doesn't help anyone improve
twilit arch
so planning out your heals is important
but you're not going to be spamming heals in hard content, either
strong saddle
So really i can just tank spank?
faint flare
Bosses yes
strong saddle
Wow
hallow bloom
so i been poking at crafting macros and someone pointed me to this crafting optimizer thing
median locust
Endgame healing is just, DPS as much as possible while healing as little as possible while not letting anyone die
faint flare
Trash is the real danger
strong saddle
When the black mage aint doing his rotation right
agile laurel
there are not hard dungeons in this game, frankly
WoW does hard-endgame dungeons
XIV don't
faint flare
Bosses are just downtime to grt cooldowns back for the next pull
median locust
Some dungeons have the (Hard) tag but that's just an alternate version of an already existing dungeon
twilit arch
dungeons are casual content
median locust
not any harder
twilit arch
hard stuff is savage/ultimate raids
halcyon glen
Like wiping on a dungeon is a thing that happens if it’s someone’s first time through and no one explained the mechanics to the healer/tank
agile laurel
The general vibe with dungeons if you're pulling adequate amounts of trash at the time is a fortified bursting Freehold key
hallow bloom
why does it do inner quiet, basic, basic, standard -> mend -> basic, basic, standard instead of basic, basic, basic, mend, basic, standard, standard?
agile laurel
Trash is unfun
halcyon glen
Or the tank is bad
agile laurel
Bosses are sleep
hallow bloom
or do quality up abilities not stack?
or do they add together in a way that would not make that more optimal
agile laurel
plus as said, white mage's AoE dps tool stuns with diminishing returns
so uh, as they say. john fckin madden
halcyon glen
Holy is great
unborn fox
are guilds datagroup or server wide?
hallow bloom
are quality up boosts additive or multiplicative?
static yacht
server wide
hallow bloom
when crafting
simple shore
Your question doesnt really make sense exactly. Particularly with whatever it was you posted above in terms of a rotation.
hallow bloom
say if i were to press basic touch the increase would be 100 with a buff giving 25% increase
if i were to instead press standard touch would that increase be additive (so an effective 150%)
or multiplicative
clever cave
Theres a chart shown in game while you craft what the buffs will give your skills
As u craft..
static yacht
He's asking
hallow bloom
would i go from 100 to 125 with standard touches 125% efficiency
static yacht
and then you use a skill that gives you 50% multiplier
simple shore
"efficiency" is like "potency" on combat skills.
static yacht
is it 150?
hallow bloom
or would the 100 be turned into 125 from one effect and then the second effect adds 25% on top of that
simple shore
Its a multiplier that gets rammed through a formula that uses your Control as its Main Stat (kind combat classes use Strength, Dex, etc.)
hallow bloom
for a total of 156
simple shore
You shouldnt get hung up on the fact that efficiency is displayed as a percentage.
clever cave
This kind of irrelevant as the game literally tells you exactly how much quality/process you’ll receive
Based on the buffs you use
simple shore
Think of it being exactly like Potency on combat abilities, as i said.
worldly cape
theoretically, if I spend all my poetics to buy Primal I accessories (because I'm too sleepy) how screwed am I?
faint flare
Not that much
simple shore
I mean, its poetics, so who cares?
faint flare
You're down 30/40 ilvls
hallow bloom
but if i have a buff that gets stronger (inner quiet) would saving big increase abilities (such as standard touch) give more of a benefit or does it ultimately not matter in what order i do my basic and standard touches
thats the conundrum
halcyon glen
Your punishment for badly spending your poetics is as follows
You are sentenced to 1 MSQ roulette
simple shore
TL;DR - get Inner Quiet as high as you can, use your biggest touch skills when its as high as it can be.
Its really that simple
You're overthinking this
hallow bloom
right so that would make buffs multiplicative not additive
simple shore
The fact that you're only listed Basic and Standard as things you use
means you're what? 10-20-ish?
You're way overthinking this
99% of crafting gets done by macro anyway.
https://ffxivteamcraft.com/ is how macros get built
Like, you dont need to figure out the math
worldly cape
@halcyon glen you mean praetorium?
simple shore
because there's a simulator that does it for you
halcyon glen
I mean yes hopefully praetorium
But do the roulette
MSQ Roulette is 500-600 poetics per day
You’ll either get Castrum and have to actually do the mechanics
Or you’ll get Praetorium and boot up Netflix for during the cutscene
leaden ginkgo
dumb question but is there any point to keep blizzard 2 on my hot bar?
remote lintel
if youre going to do low lvl content yes
leaden ginkgo
in that case no then.
zinc orbitBOT
candid raptor
Even at low lvl content blizz2 is bad
halcyon glen
Roulettes exist
Banish B2 to the distant depths of your hotbar but keep it around imo
At least on M+K
leaden ginkgo
i just ran out of space on mine and need one ability to be sacrificed lol.
static yacht
remote lintel
how do you run out of space on hotbars 
leaden ginkgo
i used a controller.
remote lintel
yeah
twilit arch
unless you're doing sub 34, you can toss it tbh
static yacht
only need blizzard 2 for 18-34
leaden ginkgo
and don't like constantly switching between the two i have set up lol.
faint flare
You dont need to swap
remote lintel
use double tap or hold?
leaden ginkgo
tap
remote lintel
yes
faint flare
You can access 3 hotbars with no swapping
remote lintel
you're going to need at least 2 hotbars for every class
halcyon glen
Usually 3
faint flare
You have the L2+R2 bars (and vice via) and double tap trigger bars
Ontop of the normal ones
You can fit everything on those
leaden ginkgo
as far as my set up goes for every class i used the regular cross bar along with additional left and right ones you can add as well.
faint flare
With duplicates and plenty of extra space
leaden ginkgo
hmm, i'll look into using that.
faint flare
Character config > hotbars > Custom
Enable Expanded and wxhb
And use dpad with them
buoyant monolith
Will I still be able to play XIV if the 30 day membership is over?
halcyon glen
You’d need to purchase more time
median locust
Can't go back to the infinite free trial if you've bought the game
hallow bloom
hey balmeric does that site you linked to have a solver?
crimson wind
I should be using Emergency Tactics whenever I can in dungeons right?
faint flare
Not.all the time
halcyon glen
If you need healing rather than shields sure
faint flare
When you absolutely need the healing
crimson wind
Like I'll adlo pre pull and then Adlo again?
faint flare
There's no point in second adlo
crimson wind
oh
faint flare
Unless it crits for a stronger shield
crimson wind
No I mean like Adlo > Emergency > Adlo
faint flare
Again no point in the pre pull
Bit if you're out of off global heals you can use ET adlos to help you heal
median locust
Not the channel for LFG questions I think
arctic gorge
static yacht
I think wol is thinking of deployment tactics
emergency tactics converts the shield to a heal
deployment tactics spreads the shield
halcyon glen
There’s a recruitment channel for your data center
static yacht
but yes you should be using deployment tactics like that
halcyon glen
Way down the thing
static yacht
but preferably save a usage of deployment tactics
for the boss raid wide that usually occurs @ the start
mossy tartan
Where can I find a list of sentences that are eligible for the auto translation feature?
faint flare
By pressing tab and scrolling through...idk if there's a giant list somewhere
median locust
Select the chat window then press tab without typing in anything first
twilit arch
faint flare
Nvm
twilit arch
I think its complete?
faint flare
There it is
junior yacht
it's a very long list
twilit arch
not sure if its been updated or not
junior yacht
you can also just start typing a phrase and hit Tab and the game will try to match it
twilit arch
hmmm dont think it has, since its missing...a lot
hallow bloom
ah ok i found the issue with the crafting solver from https://ffxiv-beta.lokyst.net/#/solver you need to change to eacomplex or it gives sub-optmial results...
(also innerquiet is multiplicative with standard touch and i imagine all the other touches)
little swift
the crafting solver isn't optimal as it tries to maximize CP use but doesn't maximize quality gains all the time
it works fine for crafts sub-50
but it gets less reliable later
you're better off fiddling with it in teamcraft's simulator
or the upcoming practice craft section
halcyon grail
Is it a good idea to sell outdated gear immediately?
remote lintel
if you rank up in your GC you can turn them in for seals
hallow bloom
well at least i know buffs appear to be multiplicative so when i am working stuff out at later levels i will know that and take that into account
little swift
there's a calculations window in the crafting interface as well
so you'll know exactly how much you gain with every skill
at any given step
halcyon grail
Whats a GC?
median locust
Grand Company
Immortal Flames, Twin Adders and the Maelstrom
you pick one around lv20 in the story
pastel nexus
what should i sell as a lvl 80 botanist rn? everything in the board seems to be pretty cheap
halcyon grail
The General had me deliver a letter, now I'm stumbling around in Aleport. Maybe I should go back and talk to him.
clever cave
Timed node items sell decent
halcyon grail
Should I max a job before focusing on others?
median locust
I'd say yes so you unlock more content, but don't be afraid to try out different jobs either way
remote lintel
pick up jobs when you want to
you have plenty of opportunities to switch as you do the story
twilit arch
its on the nuts vendor
median locust
2nd floor of Eulmore or outside the Crystarium iirc
halcyon grail
Are any of the jobs "Easier" to solo with?
remote lintel
solo what
halcyon grail
general content, story, etc
simple shore
Everything is easy to solo that with
remote lintel
a dps I guess
simple shore
Literally anything tho
halcyon grail
Its only in group content that roles really play a huge deal?
median locust
Story is made to be soloable (aside from dungeons) by literally any class
and yeah
simple shore
Red Mage and Tanks have some strong solo capabilities in terms of actually hard things. Story/general content is not hard.
median locust
Tanks take all the hits, healers heal the damage, DPS make sure the mobs die before the tank and healers run out of resources
simple shore
Like Red Mage is the god of solo POTD
halcyon grail
I played FF11 back in the day. I remember needing to group up just to level grind respectfully.
POTD?
faint flare
A roguelike dungeon
simple shore
You should erase all knowledge of FF11 from your mind
FF14 doesnt resemble it at all
halcyon grail
OH MAN I WISH I COULD IT WAS SO BAD
REMEMBER THE FUCKIN FERRY
I HATED IT
THE ONLY BOAT I HATE MORE WAS THE ONE GUTS GOT STUCK ON
median locust
Well you'll be happy to know they made an instance that's a homage to FF11 where you level separately from the rest of the game
by killing mobs and spawning NMs
called Eureka
halcyon grail
NMs?
median locust
notorious monsters
median locust
I loved it to death, lol
halcyon grail
I fell off 11 just because of the auction house.
I needed certain gear in order to keep up. The gear was a rare drop already, but the mobs were being monopolized by bots.
faint flare
None of that here
halcyon grail
And the bots sold them for ever escalating prices.
faint flare
Gear is easy to get
remote lintel
the bots here just spam chat to buy gil off them for real money
halcyon grail
fuck that
remote lintel
i mean its illegal in game so yeah
halcyon glen
Some 3000 bots a week get banned
little swift
rival wings (hidden gorge) or aurum vale
if you want something where you can do other things on the side
praetorium
leaden ginkgo
whats hidden gorge?
remote lintel
pvp
little swift
its a mode of pvp rival wings
leaden ginkgo
oh okay
little swift
can be a quick go if both sides run it down
zinc orbitBOT
leaden ginkgo
alright ty!
remote lintel
system > support desk > contact us > report cheating
twilit arch
system > support desk > contact us
But that said, they'll get swept up in the monthly ban wave
for now, i would suggest going back to one of the main cities and using world visit to hop to a different server to get your hunt done
its not a perfect solution but its there
ionic hazel
i got a question
is kind of a spoiler so ill hide it
||When i defeated Titania, another fae took the relics, is she a good fae?||
remote lintel
feo ul?
ionic hazel
yeah the orange one
simple shore
Duty Finder notification is System Sounds, right?
twilit arch
yes
remote lintel
I don't think so
twilit arch
assuming you have it set at a decent level, cranking system sound up will do the job of notifiying you that duty finder popped
simple shore
Setting up macros to fulfill the function of "Mute All But System" and "Set back to my normal volume settings"
twilit arch
even when I have master volume at like 10, putting system sound at 100 is a bit overkill but you'll hear it
ionic hazel
@remote lintel didnt notice skipped cutscenes
thats probably bad on my part
i just wanted to zoom to end content
simple shore
skips cutscenes
"Who's this NPC"?
remote lintel
you can make only the system sounds audible when you tab out
remote lintel
then why bother asking
ionic hazel
but all i know is that i need to click that marker
@remote lintel its a joke calm your titties
remote lintel
rewatching every cutscene in the entire game would take a while
remote lintel
yeah except youre not doing it all back to back
ionic hazel
the times i saved i can just re allocate the time when i feel it
remote lintel
it would defeat the point of the story but sure
tardy storm
The more you skip ShB cutscenes, the more confused you'll get lol, especially at lv 79-80 when all the big stuff happens
remote lintel
remote lintel
you replay the story
faint flare
You redo the story quests
faint flare
Yes
ionic hazel
for gil?
faint flare
Everything the story gives you is HQ gear you can vendor buy or craft
Or buy off market
tardy storm
Deep gold gear can be bought from an npc in Lakeland at the fort place, I forget the name
Its 30-40k each piece
East side
tardy storm
I think he sells accessories too
faint flare
Remember its NQ so its considerably worse than what its ilvl stats
sturdy hemlock
Upgraded Scaevan stays good till like 75
After that you'll wanna start getting dungeon drops
Of course if you wanna be a chad you'll have already been collecting dungeon gear to make it easier for Healers
tardy storm
never buy gear for leveling that isnt max level from the market board if you can help it. Itll save you lots of money buying nq gear from npcs. The difference between nq and hq gear is minimal as well. It only really matters at high end content or if you are competitive in DPS numbers.
I say this as someone who actively abused the market board to make money
obsidian patio
The difference starts mattering in the later levels
Especially in the case of weapons
twilit arch
NQ isn't even capped on main stat
tardy storm
Its still not much if it's up to date gear, the difference is rarely more than 50 points.
twilit arch
which is why you should NEVER use it past 50
tardy storm
The only time you want hq gear over nq is at max level or for synced content for materia.
twilit arch
no...
tardy storm
Yes?
icy ivy
a really simple q: how do you macro waymarks or whatnot? Some people in savage just spawn these waymarks and no idea where they get them from
tardy storm
I've used nq gear from 1 to 79 and was fine levelling
twilit arch
and yes 34 points of main stat is significant
tardy storm
And buying hq gear is a waste of money before max level
obsidian patio
It is, but you can rely on poetics and dungeon gear
faint flare
In the waymark menu
tardy storm
Exactly wynne
twilit arch
Then either use poetics or dungeon gear, you shouldn't be using NQ gear
obsidian patio
And sometimes HQ gear can be dirt cheap due to being a quest reward
remote lintel
how are you using NQ gear when the msq literally gives you gear
tardy storm
People who insist newer players buy hq gear from the MB at every level are really suspicious, since an endgame player would know it's a waste of money and so should they
Its just a scam
twilit arch
No one is insiting on them buying hq from the marketboard
remote lintel
??
twilit arch
but at the same time, you should not be suggesting that its ok to use NQ and that the difference is minimal, because its not
remote lintel
poetics only get you a few levels in
twilit arch
34 point difference is significant
tardy storm
Where else are you going to get hq gear outside of msq and retainers
ionic hazel
augmented gear is great tho
tardy storm
Like actually what????
simple shore
The point is that some HQ gear on MB is so dirt cheap its cheaper than NQ vendor
simple shore
So you'd literally be stupid to buy vendor at that point
tardy storm
some hq is cheap
My point was that it's not worth it to waste money on hq colorless gear from the mb??? Why is this an argument
You cant buy hq gear from npcs????
Like I'm so confused
simple shore
Probably because you came in saying "its a scam" and implied anyone suggesting looking at HQ is telling people "buy HQ every 2 levels"
That's precisely why its an argument
remote lintel
nobody was suggesting that you should buy HQ gear from the mb frequently
tardy storm
I didnt mention it was a scam until the very end lol
alpine shadow
its not worth arguing against low level gear anyway 🤷
alpine shadow
wtf is deepgold
tardy storm
oH MY GOD
remote lintel
lvl 70+
alpine shadow
ok, so low lvl gear
remote lintel
......sure
tardy storm
I'm gonna ask this one time: HAVE CONTEXT before you enter an argument
ionic hazel
i missed the whole convo
simple shore
Not really sure i'd call ShB levelling gear "low level gear"
tardy storm
We weren't talking about lv 32 hq gear
alpine shadow
all gear under lvl80 is low level for me
tardy storm
I just wanna save dain money jfc
ionic hazel
that seems like too much work
median locust
low level = 50 and down to me
remote lintel
it's not
ionic hazel
id have to hope it drops from a dungeon
remote lintel
suggesting that you can buy NQ gear from vendors is a waste of money sona
simple shore
ShB vendor gear is quite expensive
tardy storm
???? Not when it's more expensive on the mb
alpine shadow
deepgold gear is worse than stormblood gear
static yacht
he's basically saying that the way NQ gear works in this game
is that NQ gear even level 77 NQ gear
simple shore
Any vendor gear is worse than augmented scaeven. At any level.
simple shore
The disparity between HQ/NQ is massive
median locust
Most NQ crafter gear is like 20-30 item levels weaker than it actually says
alpine shadow
why would you hq ilvl395 gear when you can get a non-hq augmented scavean gear
tardy storm
Oh my god none of you are any help jesus christ
ionic hazel
i get the point
tardy storm
He wanted to buy it for temporary usage til he got better gear
alpine shadow
wait, whats the question again
tardy storm
STOP ARGUING AND MOVE ON
alpine shadow
run some leveling dungeons
static yacht
🤔 you can literally just spam level 70 dungeons for poetics
simple shore
idk game throws poetics at you constantly and scaeven accessories are cheap
simple shore
or you could just do your MSQ roulette for the day and get two accessories out of one run
remote lintel
i'm pretty sure the msq gives you a deepgold accessory coffer
raven sage
If not msq then definitely a side quest somewhere
remote lintel
^
simple shore
Between MSQ and side quests you can get a full set of every tier of crafted gear
median locust
A lot of accessories are hidden behind yellow sidequests (but not all)
alpine shadow
is he finished with the shb story, or new?
remote lintel
check the sidequests outside eulmore dain
alpine shadow
ic, whats your ilvl atm?
remote lintel
there should be accessories
ionic hazel
dancer is 399
alpine shadow
should be fine till lvl76
alpine shadow
hell, even 80
alpine shadow
268 is pretty low yeah
ionic hazel
i have deepgold coffers
for each slot
just missing accessories
thats why i asked here where can i buy the accessories
remote lintel
go to gatetown
clever cave
Uhhh ishgard i guess
ionic hazel
since its just temp till i can get scaevan for my ast
median locust
you can get coffers from sidequests (thought you'll have to check first lol)
remote lintel
clever cave
Dont even know what level you are lol
remote lintel
inglorious bath stewards gives bracelet
you've got the tatch gives ring
there's a bunch of them
ionic hazel
yeah ill look them up
zinc orbitBOT
dense pier
and then...?
I can't add them to friend list after we left the duty
wait nvm
So then is there no way to invite people cross-server?
They have ot just join your PF?
alpine shadow
Yeah, if you have in contact with them, you can let them join your pf
If you can try to add them to your friend list though, and then invite them to your party
alpine shadow
Well, you do need a reference to the user somehow
leaden ginkgo
So i'm transfering my FFXIV folder to my external HDD since it's much faster than my old internal HDD and I don't have enough space on my SSD. Is this the only step i need to take for the game to work?
dense pier
The reference is their heckin server lol
alpine shadow
Well, if you don't have enough space to play the game, then you cant play the game
leaden ginkgo
You clearly misread my question.
alpine shadow
yeah, i didnt understand it
leaden ginkgo
Okay so
I have really old PC that has a nice CPU, so i just jammed a 1050 in there with it.
This old pc, has a bad HDD
And my loading times are miserable
But it also has a good SSD, just not enough space for FFXIV atm
But I have an external HDD, that's faster than my internal HDD
Is transfering the folder the only step i need to take?
alpine shadow
Are you just using the windows version, not steam right?
leaden ginkgo
Correct.
alpine shadow
then moving the game folder to a different location should be fine
wintry chasm
Why don't you just save all your character data to the server in-game
You don't really need to do anything with the folders
leaden ginkgo
My loading times would still be bad?
alpine shadow
pillgobbler is talking about the install folder
leaden ginkgo
Okay, cool 🙂
dense pier
Wowzers
So, queing as a healer is instant-queue for Mt. Gulg
but then, queing with a tank and dps
that last dps is taking forever
leaden ginkgo
My one mistake was choosing a DPS instead of a tank/healer.... I may as well just switch jobs lol
dense pier
That's not a mistake
DPS is great to have for solo MSQ/farming
I used to be PLD only, then I grabbed AST to have another role
and while I am a good PLD
leaden ginkgo
If you're wanting to run roulettes or trials it's not a fun time.
To play DPS
And wait
dense pier
It doesn't come close to my RDM to clear msq
leaden ginkgo
Forever
dense pier
True, but
That's where you can fill in time for gathering
If not
You need to make a friend or two that will tank/heal for you
leaden ginkgo
True, but when you're not much of a gathering/crafting guy..... 😛
dense pier
If you're still new, I suggest asking in the Novice Network
I mean
At the very least be a gather guy
It's simple and can make you lots of gil
mindlessly mining something that sells for 500gil a piece
that people buy in hoards
Is how gold sellers make there money here lol
void fossil
How does gear work in Eden's verse? Is there a reason to keep fighting the normal versions of bosses?
tardy storm
Not really
The fights will drop tokens to trade for gear in normal versions, and coffers for class-types in the latest savage versions
But you can only get the coffers weekly
It's an odd system
void fossil
Okay thank you for clarifying
tardy storm
frigid sigil
what's good fish to get for yellow scrip (need to farm that to unlock folklore to be able to get white scrip)
frigid sigil
all the fish I've been trying to get need baits that costs scrip
twilit arch
the ??? mean you haven't completed that series
frigid sigil
so before I have to check every fish on the list maybe someone knows it out of their head?
tardy storm
What kael said
amber ingot
oh can u help me out where to start them ?
twilit arch
so you're missing 4 lords trials quest from stormblood and return to ivalice alliance raids
twilit arch
yes, both of them are stormblood
faint flare
Four lords starts in ruby sea, and ilavice in kuganr
twilit arch
4 lords starts in ruby sea, near the yanxia zone line
amber ingot
Oh thank you
raven crown
Hi quick question, looking to play Dark Knight tank on free trial. What should I play as until I unlock that job/class?
faint flare
Any
It doesn't matter
But you should pick a tank so you learn how to tank
So either gladiator or Maradurer
twilit arch
also to have gear when you unlock dark knight
since the unlock only gives you a weapon and chest
raven crown
Sounds good, thank you both.
amber ingot
@faint flare yeah but i don't have any like special markers in ruby sea 😦
faint flare
And onlu for lv30
It might be hidden under the yellow quest near the yanxia transition
raven crown
Outside of less quests, any reason to wait before I start?
twilit arch
did you do the dungeon "hell's lid"?
faint flare
Well currently the trial only goes yo 35
It goes up to heavensward and 60 in August and we're not sure if people already on trial will automatically be upgraded
unkempt portal
Hello, new player here. Which server should I be joining? Looking for a server that has the most traffic/populated
amber ingot
meh cant see anywhere "important quest marker 😦 "
wintry chasm
Like Kael said
Did you do Hell's Lid?
Gotta do that first
@unkempt portal Eh I wouldn't bother too much with that. I'd just go on a preferred server for the double xp bonus you get. You can always world visit to another server on your data center and matchmaking for content like dungeons is done across the data center anyway. If you want more RP focus I'd go somewhere on Crystal if you're NA. Aether or Primal if NA but no RP focus
agile laurel
i mean you don't need to RP on crystal, just expect somewhat less raiding scene than the other two
faint flare
You can also check how many quests you done by going into your journal > completed > Chronicles of a new era and use the drop down menu to open the Four lords section @amber ingot
To see where you're at
wintry chasm
It has a bigger RP focus than the other two is the my point @agile laurel
leaden ginkgo
Well RIP my load times, even a faster HDD isn't even helping them. Guess i need to invest in a big SSD
unkempt portal
Thanks
amber ingot
i guess , its not just 4 quests xD
wintry chasm
Ah
twilit arch
yeah no, there's more to the questline than that
wintry chasm
Go to the island with Hell's Lid and there should be a gatekeeper you can talk to and go back to the temple
Which I think the next quest starts in
viscid gull
How can you change your security question if you forgot the answer?
twilit arch
last one is "The Fifth Lord"
viscid gull
Or which one it was
limpid lantern
Hello :) am i in the right spot to ask some things about classes ? (As in not woch is strongest but just a bit pro and cons about different tanks, halers and dps's)
Since a lot of the info im finding online while googling is outdated :)
fervent turret
Does anyone know when the next callback campaign will be?
faint flare
@amber ingot there is actually one more quest called The Fifth Lord
wintry chasm
@viscid gull that would probably be under "your account" in mogstation if you can get into that but I can't check. If you can't get into your account sounds like a contact support problem
faint flare
Its a yellow quest
fervent turret
Oh alright, thank you guys for answering! 
faint flare
Doing that will add the four lords to NG+
limpid lantern
Alright ^^ so is there a small rundown on whats what with the classes ? Since im not sure what i read is true and what not
wintry chasm
It's blue though
limpid lantern
I read thaf bard got simpler and that most utility went to dancer for example ?
faint flare
It shows yellow in the journal
wintry chasm
You might find this useful Woop? https://youtu.be/k_vH-1WZQ3A
It's a bit memey but points are made
zinc orbitBOT
limpid lantern
Is that up to date ^^?
wintry chasm
Wouldn't call Bard simpler now but yeah its utility kinda went down a bit for dancer
It is
sweet pasture
Is the best usage for tomestones still crafting mats from rhalgr's reach?
or is there some better thing to burn since 5.0
proud willow
oh he made a Shadowbringers version of that vid? I haven't seen it yet
viscid gull
@wintry chasm , the thing is, I can get into my account, but only in the web browser, if I enter the same information in the launcher, it tells me that the credentials are invalid.
twilit arch
which website are you logging into
wintry chasm
For poetics? I mean obviously it depends what you want to do but sure that's one thing to spend it on @sweet pasture
viscid gull
wintry chasm
@limpid lantern come back if you have questions afterwards
sweet pasture
I mean for gil, sorry. I've already got every class leveled and all the previous relic weps I want
twilit arch
you're 100% using the same square enix ID and password when you use the launcher
sweet pasture
It just feels kind weak to spend all 2k and only get like 4k gil worth from auctions. Doesn't even seem worth the trouble
normal breach
whats best items to get with yellow crafting scripts? im at max amount and dont know what to buy
twilit arch
master recipes, if you don't have those yet. if you do, materia
wintry chasm
Mastercraft books if you have- ^
viscid gull
@twilit arch , yup, even updated the password so I knew I used the same.
normal breach
why mastercraft?
twilit arch
you're using your ID and not like your e-mail to log in right?
wintry chasm
And you aren't filling into the one time password section?
viscid gull
Just my ID
normal breach
arnt most of the books useless minus the VIII ones?
wintry chasm
@normal breach special endgame recipes
viscid gull
No
twilit arch
about the only crafter that doesn't really need previous master recipe books is cul
wintry chasm
^
twilit arch
since most of that food is not used that often anymore
wintry chasm
Might as well get it anyway though
sweet pasture
@twilit arch thanks! just to be clear, the materia vendor for tomestones is idyllshire, right?
twilit arch
my comment was directed to shadow
sweet pasture
oh god
twilit arch
you can't buy materia with tomestones
wintry chasm
I wish
twilit arch
!faq poetics
zinc orbitBOT
twilit arch
the text post goes over what's worth buying if you're just looking for gil
sweet pasture
I found some reddit thread where they were saying you could spend poetics for DoW/DoM Materia VI
twilit arch
but its grade 6
civic lodge
Hi guys, trying to join Siren where a friend just joined yesterday but it's full. We're thinking I should join another server and then he can transfer, but how long does he have to wait before he can do so?
twilit arch
which honestly...not worth it at this point generally
wintry chasm
Siren just has too many people logged in at once. Just trying at a quieter time will work @civic lodge
No need for transfers
Just some patience
civic lodge
Okay awesome, I'll just wait then, thank you @wintry chasm (:
wintry chasm
Also FYI they'd need to wait 90 days before transferring because of the preferred server status/XP buff lol
civic lodge
Lol yeah, that's prob not a good idea then
halcyon grail
What’s it mean for Excalibur to be a legacy server? Is it less populated?
twilit arch
yea all it means is that it was a 1.0 server or merged 1.0 servers
it doesn't have any meaning really for new players
limpid lantern
@wintry chasm aight, so video is done, got a fair impression but i have a few quesrions. first off me and my gf are playing since 2 days now and we are currently playing marauder/warrior(me) and arcanist/scholar(her), the reasoning behind tbis was because they are both half dps , half other role (dps/heal) eas i wrong to think about that ?
limpid lantern
The other question is that from what i understood is that ninja has a b c in terms of skills and abc does different stuff than cba in terms of skills
wintry chasm
Scholar is a healer but shares levels with summoner which is a DPS so that's somwhat accurate on that side
limpid lantern
Warrior doesnt have good dmg for regular content ?
wintry chasm
Yeah basically woop the main thing that matters is the amount of mudras you use and the last mudra used so cba and bca do the same move
remote lintel
if by regular content you mean story it does
wintry chasm
It doing decent damage and it being a DPS are two different things
It's a tank
It queues into content as a tank
It does less damage than DPS
remote lintel
there are no "half classes" in this game
wintry chasm
It can't be anything but a tank
remote lintel
there are tanks, healers, dps
arcanist is a strange one because it can branch into either a healer or a dps
but it can't be both at the same time
limpid lantern
Alright, from what i understood in what i read was that from the tanks the warrior was more damage based and paladin more protection based
faint quest
okay so question, ive got a level 80 tank and have to many poetics, any advice on what i should spend them on? ive already got gear for the classes i plan to use
remote lintel
!faq poetics
zinc orbitBOT
wintry chasm
Mmm
faint quest
thank ya
limpid lantern
Hmm now it gets more confusing in what i want to play first xD
wintry chasm
Yeah have fun lol
viscid gull
Apparently, I had two accounts: ImThatGuy.. and ImThatGuy... . The problem ended up being that I was logging in with the password from the 2 dots in the account with the 3 dots. AKA I wanna bang my head against my keyboard.
limpid lantern
@remote lintel thats probably gonna take a while xD
remote lintel
youre gonna end up getting a bunch of classes anyway
limpid lantern
Yeah im just trying to figure out what i wanna go for first
wintry chasm
But yeah honestly Woop you're just going to have to decide for yourself. Look deep within yourself 
ionic hazel
where do u use aetherflow
wintry chasm
Apparently, I had two accounts: ImThatGuy.. and ImThatGuy... . The problem ended up being that I was logging in with the password from the 2 dots in the account with the 3 dots. AKA I wanna bang my head against my keyboard.
@viscid gull and you got locked out of one and you don't know your secret password to get back in?
remote lintel
for which class
wintry chasm
Spam energy drain and use it again
ionic hazel
sch
wintry chasm
Better to use it on cooldown and get more DPS then make no use of it
viscid gull
@viscid gull and you got locked out of one and you don't know your secret password to get back in?
@wintry chasm
Maybe :)
But the one I got locked out of, I didn't even use, oddly enough.
ionic hazel
and do i ever use dissolve union
wintry chasm
Well this sounds like an issue you need to contact Square about
When you want to stop fey union Dainichi
Since it's a continuous strong heal on the target
viscid gull
Doo you only need to purchase the latest DLC?
wintry chasm
For...what?
For the game in general?
Base game and latest DLC or just get the complete edition which is both
And you got everything
viscid gull
I already have the base game.
viscid gull
Ah
wintry chasm
it makes the fairy focus heal and not smart heal
Yeah sure but it's also just an insanely strong heal as well, it's not like focusing a target and it heals normally on that target
faint flare
^
Fae union costs gauge so you may wanna stop it early to conserve gauge for later
If the tank doesn't need the extra health the tether gives
halcyon grail
Is this a good upgrade or should I look for one without a drawback?
faint flare
If its a higher ilvl then yes
remote lintel
it doesn't really matter for low lvl
faint flare
Item level is king
remote lintel
just equip whatever ilvl is higher
faint flare
Block strength and rate doesn't mean too much in the grand scheme of things
If its higher item level, you take it
halcyon grail
What does item level do?
remote lintel
it's the general strength of the gear
remote lintel
not to be confused with equip level
which is just the level you need to be to equip it
vernal urchin
Below level 50 you're gonna be replacing equipment fairly regularly anyway, especially if you're doing msq
halcyon grail
And does that extend to armor? Like if I find gear with a higher I level but worse stats, trust the I level?
remote lintel
its for everything
halcyon grail
MSQ?
faint flare
It extends to everything
remote lintel
armor, weapon, accessories
faint flare
Everything has a item level
vernal urchin
Main quest scenario
remote lintel
main story quest
faint flare
Do note that Normal quality items have a lower ilvl than stated due to the stats on it being lower
remote lintel
yeah don't use normal quality items if you can help it
wintry chasm
yeah don't use normal quality items if you can help it
After level 50 anyway
mossy tartan
I see some players having different stances next to the wall, as in their backs are pressed against it. How can I do that?
remote lintel
it's the /lean emote
remote lintel
or can buy it on the mb
mossy tartan
ty
leaden ginkgo
so in 5.3 update they said that free trial will be extended to heavensword. if i bought the game, ugrading from free trial, but never bought subs, am i still eligible to play up to hs?
proud willow
the starter edition (ARR) is being updated to include Heavensward
proud willow
right, you would own Heavensward but you'd no longer be on the trial
you'd have to pay a sub in order to play, but you don't need to purchase anything
and that'll take effect on Aug 11
leaden ginkgo
that makes sense, but i can only play if i have game time card or participate in 7 free days?
right?
remote lintel
what 7 free days
faint flare
You need a subscription to play after buying yes
leaden ginkgo
the 7 free day events
robust crow
quick question regarding playability...
leaden ginkgo
like the one in april
robust crow
are there any problems with canadians playing on aether datacenter?
faint flare
Those are for returners who haven't played in awhile
remote lintel
think you would need to be a returning player for those
robust crow
a friend is having problems trying to log in
leaden ginkgo
well i havent played since april (rip) but at least that answers my question
zinc orbitBOT
robust crow
it's saying they can't use a canadian zip code
for their account
could this possibly be due to us gifting them the complete edition from the states?
remote lintel
i'm pretty sure they can just enter a US address
robust crow
yeah we can just give them our address if need be
but that seems a little ridiculous that it won't take a canadian address
leaden ginkgo
This red bar just to play FFXIV without terrible load times 😦
remote lintel
clean your drive
robust crow
118gb ssd 
leaden ginkgo
I did 😛
static yacht
o-o
remote lintel
and upgrade your storage
agile laurel
get you some terabytes there chief
agile laurel
Yeah I got a 1TB in mine recently and the fact i don't really recall spending money suggests it may have not been that much
leaden ginkgo
xD. The story goes that i had a gaming PC that went ka-boom, so I bought a cheap dell optiplex, jammed a bigger PSU and better GPU in there, and it came with that 128GB SSD
agile laurel
Ah
leaden ginkgo
Omg, these load times are night and day
Would any of you happen to know if an external SSD would be helpful? Because i have windows installed on this small internal SSD and I don't have another SATA port
leaden ginkgo
This isn't a laptop
static yacht
ah oops
I digress
you can also
do the same thing on a desktop PC too
if the mother board has an M.2 slot
that's what I jammed into mine
clever cave
that dell optiplex will not have..
static yacht
rip
clever cave
yes for now haha
leaden ginkgo
That's why i was wondering if external SSD would be helpful
I'ma consult google
OH, i can take out this old ass DVD drive i'll never use and get another sata port
clever cave
indeed you can do that
halcyon grail
How do I unlock the white wolf gate for the central shroud?
opal bough
at what level deep dungeon gives the best xp? I tried lvl 1 potd and the xp was horrible
open coral
Get to level 28 and speak to the npc with a 
behind the Gridania aetheryte @halcyon grail
open coral
Which?
leaden ginkgo
@clever cave I'm actually looking at a vid of a dude using an external, it doesn't look too bad at all actually. I'm just not using the drive to it's fullest potential because of USB limitations
But it'd still be quick
sturdy mason
If I run Shiva Savage multiple times in one week but I pass on the actual weapon that drops, can I roll on a Cane if it ends up showing up in the loot list? I'm not talking about books, chests, or coffers. I'm talking about the actual weapon that drops
clever cave
you mean specifically running ffxiv on the external ?
halcyon grail
Map is pointing me at this gate
leaden ginkgo
Yes
open coral
No, go to Bentbranch Meadows and head out the northwest exit
clever cave
@leaden ginkgo ic, never tried but id still mount the 2nd ssd in that dvd drive's sata connection
halcyon grail
Supposed to go to a place called Deepcroft
faint flare
@sturdy mason no, as with any savage floor, you have 1 chance to loot
You cant run savage again and loot on stuff past your weekly clear
clever cave
you can only need/greed/pass one time per week
leaden ginkgo
@clever cave The dvd drive would have a sata connector plugged into it, so i wouldn't have to really do anything besides take it out, use that same cable to connect it with a newer SSD?
clever cave
yes SATA + power
open coral
The White Wolf Gate lets you out at the top of the cliff in that same zone, but the location you need is around the bottom of the cliff
leaden ginkgo
Okay, i may have to do this then
sturdy mason
So the random weapon that drops won't even appear on my screen on the 2nd reclear?
faint flare
Plus if you did run it again, there's no guarantee the chest with the weapon will even appear
faint flare
As a 1 chest run is a 50/50 on what chest spawns
static yacht
if you have 1 chest, there's a chance of 1 apiece of equipment + all the stuff
clever cave
2 chest = all members have not cleared yet that week
faint flare
Not that you'll br able to roll on anything