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That's sad. At least they should reverse your account to Trial status when out of sub.
I hope they address that at some point. This makes the Starter Edition such a bad value.
Per the image, it does says starter edition will be upgraded, so not sure how that plays out
I guess SE will give you Stormblood?
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No, it literally says it will be upgraded with level cap 60 and include HW
The #FFXIV Free Trial is being expanded to include:
☑️ Level cap raised to 60
☑️ Heavensward (through Patch 3.56)
☑️ Dark Knight/Astrologian/Machinist
☑️ Au Ra
A Realm Reborn/Starter Edition owners are also being upgraded with the above!
are retainers fantasias on mb?
Yes
what's their name?
retainer fantasia
lol
fair enough
No
470 vs 480
Deepshadow still swag as f*ck tho
Substats dont beat main stay or weapon damage
Except in Extreme situations, like dead stats like Tenacity or piety
But ilvl is flat out king in 99% of situations
Can someone tell me if i can use the free trial if I already own the game plus expansions? I wanna play through HW without paying sub rn.
No
No
What a tilter, cheers.
Only wau to go back is a new account
Let SE know they should change that. It's honestly not fair for people who only have the Starter.
Yeah let me get right on that.
Oh yeah, when they said 20 million players, does that mean accounts registered or active subs?
registered accounts
Figured.
Okay
this is frustrating the hell out of me
How do I donate a certain amount of an item to the donation basket in the enclave without exiting the stupid menu and splitting the stacks
split them before you donate
nope
What a dumb system
It's easy to gear up while leveling
the game provides end-game raidsets for every expansion
It's pretty easy to obtain endgame gear, yes
There's a logical gear progression, and non-current tiers allow for set farming.
You can also just straight up buy gear that's ilevel-par with the current tier of tomestone gear.
You can also skip tiers by just crafting gear
Duty Finder makes being a solo player irrelevant. You can always get a group, even if you don't have people to ask.
Unless you're planning to do Savage or Extreme content. Then you have to find your own group, but the Party Finder can facilitate that.
80
You've got two entire expansions of content to go through if you haven't played since level 60 (Heavensward)
one of which rivals HW in amazingness
Something that I always mention. I find it funny, how social this game is but they way that they designed the game makes it so that you can be completely anti-social
You can completely self-reliant in this game
depends how you approach it
I mean, it's got Final Fantasy in the name. FF players are used to long, expansive single player experiences
The systems of the game allow everyone to play in ways that suit them.
its a good thing that you can take both paths and be successful
So that option is nice
If you want to do lots of group content, there are ways to do that. If you want to play on your own, you can do that too.
Was there any preview of the omega figure emote?
No
I wish there was
Even with the $230 pricetag, I'm almost tempted to buy it.
Almost
I personally like that both are possible. Solo play and party play
One of the things I like the most about FF is the ability to go through almost all the MSQ in a party
Hope the emote is our character melting into grey slime
Is there a way to view the mogstaiton without logging in?
Not the mogstation, but the shop, yes
like the items?
grrr
Even their shop site is annoying. I can't middle-click to open new tab
Makes looking at multiple items more difficult
but thank you
I think so? but I'm not sure
@proven bay
You can't go through MSQ as a party though? Literally some parts wont even let you start it if you are ina party
Does any one here use reshade ?
If so can someone link me a good reshade preset
The game looks so muddy it's insane
There are Discords for those programs
"Almost all" @dense pier
I think it's only solo instances you cannot do
everything else is doable in a party
I mean, there are a lot of solo instances
Not really
Maybe because I flew through the MSQ
I kept running into solo instances
so I just gave up on being partied
I'm playing through with my friend right now. We've done everything from level 17 to post ARR patch quests in a party
Only leaving party once or twice during a 4-5 hour session
That's not a lot imo
It doesn't take away from the experience at least
Have you made it to SB ?
No, we're not at HW yet
Maybe there are more solo instances in later expansions
There is
But even then it isn't even a huge problem because we're just hanging out in VC
I think there were few in HW
So is the Heavensward inclusion to the free trial already out or Is it releasing around 5.3
Ah ok
no
Free Trial Cap is 60 once 5.3 is released
Tweet said level called increased to 60
free trial is being moved to lv 60

I thought they weren't gonna do that anyway
Jeez
Now I'm sad I bought the game before August
So is the price of shadowbringers reduced now since it doesn’t come with HW
How the hell can they say free trial up to Heavensward without increasing the cap
no, they're not reducing the price
That's what I was curious about
@frank ridge
I thought I read that they weren't gonna increase the cap
But I guess I'm 
The expansions have always been the same price despite the older ones being included
my launcher is still doing the thing where it won't let me see anything, just the logo
I can still click on stuff, I just cant see anything and therefore can't log in
i even re-installed it and it didn't help
Now I'm sad I bought the game before August
If you just got the base game you'll be put on new free trial @proven bay
Is there a channel I should look to for Live Letter 59 translations and commentary?
I'm a little confused. firebird trance trait is level 80, but firebird trance is 72?
#translations-and-liveletters for translations, #general-discussion for non-spoiler commentary
I just subbed today though @wintry chasm Since my sub is running out in 5 days
And I plan on playing longer than that
they're upgrading the starter edition
So idk if that changes things
to basically be the same as the trial changes, just without the restrictions
well then you have everything already
Ye
so its basically a moot point
So I have another question then
Another friend of mine has not bought ShB, but has subbed
Would he get an extended free trial?
@twilit arch
no
assuming they're on the starter edition, they will receive the update
He would get HW without the free trial limitation, from what I can gather
He's on the starter edition I think
like the tweet says, owners of A Realm Reborn/Starter edition are going to receive the benefits from the trial update
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In new game+, do you still have to do the dungeons and trials?
yes
when moving servers, does your stuff from housing storeroom move over, or does EVERYTHING need to be in ur bags?
You need to demolish your house and therefore lose the storeroom, so my guess is everything in bags
Which abilities got affected by the MP reduction for astrologian, if the information is out?
the issue appears to be the fact that my game has to run on intergrated graphics, not my nvidia card
We dont know
They didn't say which abilities
None of the information is specific yet
We won't know until we get the patch notes
Okay
We'll know when patch notes come out the day before
which prelims should be posted on the 7th
Any speculations? First time experiencing a balance change
Speculation would be pointless at this stage
yikes having to download 51960mb now
Can weapons and armor be upgraded?
Some
I have an aetherial iron spear
Nope
That'll be no
But I imagine upgradable items are way more rarer
Upgradeable items tend to be things like endgame tomestone gear, artifact gear, and relics
Most upgradeable items are from tomestones or class-related quests
We'll just have to wait and see how the Starter Edition turns out, otherwise people who only have it will get a bit shafted.
People with only starter will get the free trial benefits @halcyon rune
Not going to get shafted
Oh so they won't need to sub?
if you have the starter edition, you're still going to have to have sub to play the game
Oh really?
Am I the only one that forgot all the MSQ added in 5.2? How should I refresh my memory before 5.3 MSQ drops?
Yeah but the free trial addition stuff I wasn't sure if it'd just kinda...count you as free trial
That's what I meant. It feels weird. You get the same amount of content out of the trial. Only the social aspects are unlocked.
You're not trial at that point
@sturdy mason watch the cutscenes via the unending journey
So you're just getting Heavensward then
yes
I mean you could create another account and be done with it, but still it's ugly.
@sturdy mason watch the cutscenes via the unending journey
@twilit arch That's the book inside the Inn room right? Thanks 👍
yep
Hopefully they will address this. People who got Starter before this was announced deserve a refund or smth.
its not just the social aspects that are locked in trial, there's several other restrictions like marketboard usage and such that are locked
hey, i'm wondering how to get back to my account on the pc but a bit confused and wondering if anyone can help?
We don't know the adjustments to this, however
As I said, wait and see. They surely must be concious of this.
Remind me: What are the DoW/DoM beast tribes for Stormblood?
Ananta and kojin
Namazu are crafter.
namazu are crafter/gatherer
Lovely. I've reached a point where I have no jobs between 60 and 80, so I need some exp boosts to make it so pixie exp doesn;t go to waste
im lvl50, where can i get a weapon thats better than ilvl 45 ? I bought armor/accessories with Allagan Tombstone of Poetics but they dont have weapons apparently...
they do
They do, it's just harder to find
where
you buy 10 rowena's token of poetics and an encrypted tomestone
and trade that to the npc on the left
Under Ironworks Gear IIRC
oh ok ty
In total it costs 500
600 if you augment as well
Plus 100 more to augment yep
ok i'm going to go ahead and try to explain, sorry this is so long. I started on ps3 until they stopped the game on there, then remember maybe a couple of years ago playing on the pc to see if i could get back on my old character, and i did. But I wasn't very interested and drifted back off. So today I saw something about a new update and thought i'd see if I could get back to my account. Here's where it gets confusing :
so i found this cross breading guide and am now wondering if i should plant it all in one go or wait untill each plant has started to grow.
All in one
The cross is determined upon planting so you want to plant them all at once
No need to wait
what is the temporary fig in the top left corner for then?
So you can replant in that spot
mogstation says I have licenses all the way up to stormblood on the pc, but when i go to my square eu account the only ffxiv listed there is from the ps3. so if I tried to start playing again by getting shadowbringers how would i access the base game?
Since the fig isn't a part of the cross
the first plant won't crossbreed
since there's nothing next to it for it to cross breed
i thought i'd maybe got it on steam but it's not listed on my account so i can't have. I honestly don't even know how i was playing it on the pc a couple of years ago or where i got it from.
Do you have two accounts?
Well that's the first piece of info ya need to know @slim isle. Steam or actual windows client
@raven sage sorry you mean me? if so i don't think so.
is there any exp difference for using trust vs doing a dungeon with other players?
nope, same exp @nova umbra
So how do patches work
Aren’t they like 2 months apart?
ok, i have the same mogstation account and didn't make a new one, i know this for a fact because the main reason for getting back to the game on the pc was to get back to my old character, which i remember doing.
And you're sure Mog Station only lists a PS3 liscence?
no mogstation lists pc too
for major patches, its roughly 3mos per, give or take. Minor patches varies. usually x.x1 is a few weeks after patch, x.x5 is about a month or so @midnight slate
So 5.4 in November?
but square eu where i thought i got it from only lists ps3. so i have no idea how i'd download the base game again.
Probably yes
i'm trying to get back to this character, which is also listed on mogstation too onmy account : https://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/13977077
are you on the right datacenter ingame
i'm really glad i remembered passwords or this would've been a nightmare. xD
You can only see characters that are on the datacenter you currently have selected
need to go back to the title screen to switch datacenters
You'll need to be both on the correct datacenter, and viewing the correct server if you have multiple characters on different servers on the same datacenter.
Datacenter, as Fissie said, can be selected on the title screen. Server you can change using the Server button on the character screen.
i only have one character, it's the same i've always had. and i don't have the game or a subscription at the moment. All i'm confused about is how i'd get access to the base game if i decided to buy shadowbringers. :P
download the client?
are there really just 3x lvl 80 dungeons in the game since shadowbringer release?
No. There are... six? I think?
ok thanks, so i just download the client which is free, then shadowbringers adds onto that once i buy it, subscribe and add my username/password?
lol I just have 3 unlocked but can still run roulette lvl 80?
5
grand cosmos and anamnesis anyder are in their own roulette, called expert
Three are part of the MSQ, two are optional unlocked via 
which with the next patch, grand cosmos will likely be dropped down to lvl 80 roulette
and it'll be heroes' gauntlet and anamnesis
any idea where to get those quests?
ok i think it makes more sense now, thanks for the help all. and if i get stuck again if i do get shadowbringers and subscribe again will let you know.
The one for The Twinning is by the main tower in the Crystarium. The one for Akadaemia Anyder is in the slums around the base of Kholusia (inside the city limits) if that's what you're asking.
If you're actually missing dungeons.
@slim isle To be clear, you need to purchase a version of the base game for the platform you intend to play on (PC, Steam, or PS4) in order to download the client.
Although in theory you already own that since you have an existing character.
So my friend just bought the base game like 2 days back
@open coral ok well that's where i'm stuck, because i have no idea how i was playing it a couple of years ago on pc. is there any way from mogstation to find out how i got the pc license for the base game? all it shows are circles to say i got it.
is the coven weapons still available or have they been replaced completly by the PvP weapons?
when 5.3 launches, starter edition owners will receive the same changes as the free trial users
@slim isle If you look at your account information on the Mogstation, it should say what version of the game you own(ed).
Coven weapons were removed when diadem was reworked for the third time @onyx kiln
yes
@open coral yeah it says pc, so if i already have those licenses i was guessing i could download the client from the site, then when i log in it'll connect to my mogstation and see that i bought the game somewhere?
that's how it should work yep
one thing i can remember was that this was never easy, with the different accounts and so on. and thanks @halcyon glen, trying it now i think.
Yes, when you log in you'll use your same account information as you used to log into the mogstation.
ok cheers, installing now. 👍
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one thing that bugged me when i played it on pc a while back was trying to use the keyboard for the skills. I have a gaming mouse now though and wondering if it's easy to assign skills to it?
Should be pretty simple? I use a controller, but it shouldn't be any more difficult than mapping keys for any other game.
depends on the kind of mouse
but they usually have keys associated with them that you may have to fiddle with
so that they accept your in game binds
@slim isle yes as easy as any other game
awesome, was hoping it'd be easy and am guessing it will be. i tried controller too but i was drifting to one side (might have been software i was using at the time) so had to stop using it, which might've been a big reason why i stopped playing haha.
why do male au ra always look angery?.
one of the many gotchas re: buying game is you have to buy it all from 1 platform (i'd recoommend Mogstation tos simplify life) vs. like from Steam.. Caus then you are loading steam everytime you play ... once you start buying from 1 sourc e you have to buy all other modules from it ....
because they're grumpy ¯_(ツ)_/¯ just the way they look. though you can definitely them not look so angry but takes a bit @hallow bloom
is there any place where i can see the tldr of the live letter ?
4 am for europeans its hard xD
there might be a summary on reddit, but there will eventually be a digest posted on the official forums
Or you can just read #translations-and-liveletters
Someone made one here
https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/hvuutf/all_53_information_from_the_last_2_live_letters/
thx so much !
hi i need poetics and tomes of law, would i be better off farming prae or castrum
ok it worked, I added crysta to my account, subscribed, then it allowed me to log in and download the client. cheers again for the help!
Can someone explain to me what are the benefits in leveling fishing? I'm having a lot of fun doing it but I saw some threads about it being useless in the game
Its used for some crafts
Not as much as min/bot
And you get aethersands from Aetherical reduction for money
hi i need poetics and tomes of law, would i be better off farming prae or castrum
@mortal root You don't farm irregular laws on those.
yes you do @frank ridge
you can
@mortal root prae would give you more of both
!faq poetics
im bored leveling AST and need poetics for hw relic + i need mgp so im killing 3 birds with 1 stone
i do roulettes with a friend so until then i got nothing to do
Is combat materia below, like, VII safe to burn?
burn as in discard? just sell it
yeah i was gonna vendor it
Sell on the marketboard
i would personally recommend keeping t6
since they're 100% retrieval, and you can put that into gear you know you're going to be replacing soonish
use t8 for gear you're not going to be replacing for sometime
Aye
Is there a lost out yet of resources to gather in preparation for 5.3?
For the yokai event do I need to unlock every class to get the minions and weapons?
No
Do fates > get medals > go buy minion and summon it > go to a specific area with said minion and do fate
Rinse repeat
@obtuse jacinth if you're meaning for crafted gear, then no not really. we won't know what materials are going to be needed until the patch is released. best you can do is just stock up on phanta materials, legendary node items
For Savage Raids, does "reward recieved" just mean you did it this week and you got a chest?
Thank you
if 3.3 drops and I upgrade my relic, will it keep materia the previous version had?
no
You're receiving a new weapon, so its no different than augmenting tomestone gear
any material on the weapon will be destroyed
Reward received means you got your weekly clear and are completely ineligible for loot
Regardless if you got any coffers
is there any other way outside dailys to farm pastamgoria tomestones?
A/S Ranks in shadowbringer zones give phanta/allegory
Hunts
Timeworn Zonureskin treasure maps that result in portals also give phanta
and a very small amount of allegory (like 2-4)
i dunno even know what that is
@scarlet arrow
yeah pf map parties almost always end up gil positive even if you don't get any rolled loot
how does one unlock a/s ranks?
you don't. They just spawn.
ya, nothing required to unlock to do the hunts
that being said, for HW and SB, you gotta complete the first blue quest to start earning centurio seals. Learnt that the hard way.
Though you need to quests to unlock the vendors
in Ishgard
what are those?
@gritty oracle
initial unlock for the Hunt is at your grand company headquarters, called "Let the Hunt Begin!"
Centurio seals? Basically a currency like tomestones you earn by killing a/S ranks. You can buy some pretty neat stuff from them, including emotes.
after that there's several quests in ishgard, starting with "Let the Clan Hunt Begin!" with one of the quests being in idyllshire
sb unlock is in kugane, and shb unlock is in crystarium
yeah, but you can get centurio seals by just completing the first hunt quest in ishgard. Talk to questgiver, talk to another npc, interact with hunt board, voila done.
the unlock doesn't give you centurio seals
I mean you can start earning them
money making is something nobody's gonna explain to you because that would hurt their own money making. There are only a few "public" guidelines for MB.
- Don't undercut, match lowest. Undercutting hurts the market and in long term, your earnings.
- Monitor prices constantly and leave an item alone if it crashes in price.
- The real gil comes from rare materials (from treasure maps, voyages, or gardening), glamour and endgame raiding stuff.
market board
aka the primary way anyone makes real gil
you see someone selling a thing for 100 gil a piece, you decide to sell yours for 99gil a piece
they see that and lower their price to 98
It means say, chivalric doublet of crafting, which is a quest item and therefore usually ind emand, say it usually goes for 60k gil. Then someone undercuts to 55k gil. Comeone undercuts them to 54k. And so on until the newest undercutter lists it for 5k gil, a fraction of the usual price. It means you're not gonna makes much money off it if you sell at that price, you just don't put up any doublets and let the price slowly reset to the healthy 60k range.
and this goes on until the item is worth nothing
sometimes it doesn't reset
and its forever lowered in price
this is especially true with things like tinctures
did HW have DoW/DoM beast tribes?
for example, in Crystal Malboro azeyma rose usually went for 30k, which is a bit low for a gardening only item, but I'd say fair. For the last couple months, it's gone as low as 2k apiece. It's a joke and I'm mad because I bought 99 in balmung especiually for reselling. (This also means coronal wristband also crashed, because its price was kept high by the azeyma rose's high price.)
vanu vanu and gnath (?)
Yep
ooo the gnath are a combat tribe? I'll do that
Is it best to spam the 50/60/70 roulette for leveling, or do specefic dungeons?
@leaden ginkgo tl;dr supply and demand
567 is bad for leveling
50/60/70 is trash exp
@leaden ginkgo If you're new to the game, don't worry about making much gil. Real money is made by crafting, and/or doing high level instances and treasure maps for loot to sell.
do the highest level dungeon you can queue for, bar old level cap dungeons (50/60/70)
So Aurum Vale if you're 50, Gubal Library if 60, Castrum Abania if 70
Okay so not 506070 dungeons sure
plus unless you want to buy gear from vendors or off the market board, which you shouldn't, or try to get a house, which is impossible these times. you won't really spend millions of gil.
@leaden ginkgo you can get from 1-80 in a day
not since the firmament came in
80
80
For like 6 or so levels yeah
Until you get higher ilvl gear
Shire gets outdated at 63, Augmented Shire at 65
@kind eagle if its gear from MSQ you can use the new gear
just replace it with dungeon drops or msq quest rewards as they outlevel your current gear
I believe the 56 gear is the first MSQ gear that creeps aug shire
Item level is king
well, only if you have pretty much everything on hand
and money
lots and LOTS of money
Lv63 dungeon gear = Augmented Shire
Lv64 crafted gear is slightly better
What dungeon are you doing no damage in and what level are ya?
I would say for someone strating from scratch and spending zero gil (take up gatherers or crafting becomes insanely expensive), I'd say maybe a week if you're seriously doing it. Then again, you will always be gated by MSQpeogression to unlock areas to get materials from.
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How can I get rid of auto walk? I connected a controller to my pc and now my character won’t stop walking and I’m losing my patience >.<
And not much dmg done
It really depends on the item. A lot of items can just be gathered from different places. Some, mostly glamour items, require items from treasure maps and high-end content, which can make it difficult to obtain.
That... you shouldn't be dying to level 61 mobs easily with Shire gear
autorun is a hotkey
@signal mist that seems like it may be a controller issue
Is ALL your gear shire, including weapon?
try to find which button it is in keybinds (or the controller equivalent)
What class
Sam
damage shouldn;t be an issue
I just did not much dmg
Dying might be though, but even so you heavily outgear that area
@leaden ginkgo Ah, sorry. Honestly, unless you want to make glamour items (that make you look pretty and earn you handsome gil on the market board for selling them) you shouldn't have problems.
And the fight against the blonde van guy which is lv70
One thing to remember is to buy as little materials from the market board as possible
I cant kill him
blonde... van... guy?
You're not meantnto
My dmg is paper
Zenos
its a solo intance
zenos?
Oh, you're supposed to lose that fight lol
oh him
you'r enot supposed to kill him, you're supposed to survive until a certain point
you're not meant to kill him
just survive long enough
yeah that's a forced defeat just don't die
^
Ye i cleared it by surviving
you can spam enpy / Samurai's heal
I dashed to the storm
until the fight is over
thats how the instance is intended to go
not all bosses have mounts of them
i mean the closet would be the drk panther
!mount battle panther
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Tank You, Dark Knight III (Achievement)
No
you can only get the latest tomes
by doing content for the level the tomes are for
IE: if the latest tomes are for level 80 characters, you need to be level 80
yeah your gear isn't the issue
and won't be until you get to, uh, probably Bardam's
aka the 65 dungeon
though by that point you should have full level 64 HQ vendor gear from quests
yeah they do expect you to have at least shire gear
so it's not like heavensward where you outgear everything
uhh make sure
you are using the new tools you have to
DPS damage takes a dive if you aren't using the new stuff you have
IE: while DPSing at level 10 only using 2 skills will be an acceptable amount of damage
trying that @ level 80 will not do a lot of damage
okeeey, so with this news about trial to 60 lvl, there is chance that they would allow playing ARR/HW content without sub? 🤔 Like if you play in another platformen where you don't have expansions
@fallen lotus you would need to start a new account
the free trial account / launcher
is different from the normal launcher
crap, anyway still good for gathering friends to game
anyway, trial account will still have no party invate restriction?
I get the feeling that the mobs in HW and SB are all pretty high HP compared to the quest-spawned monsters of the same level.
@static yacht
Launcher is the same for subbed players and free trial, the account data determines the possibilities afaik. (After logging in.)
so ive came back after about 8-9 months of not playing and when i went to resub its saying my account has 0 characters connected to it? is this a bug or do i need to contact support. because ive spent allot on this game.
As far as the official faq says, the trial client is different from the regular client for all platforms
Is there any reason to use ruin after getting ruin ii?
ruin 2 for summoner should be used for weaving and moving, until 62 where it should be avoided at all costs in favour of ruin 4
ruin 2 for scholar is always the 'hey i need to use an ogcd now'
for summoner, yeah
and broil/2 for sch
same shit different name there tho
What materia should i be prioritizing on rdm?
Or is there somewhere i can look for materia guides?
Crit > dh > det
i'm pretty sure it's crit>dh>det
!faq Balance
Has guides for all jobs
quite honestly there's only like 3 jobs that don't go crit>dh>det
Crit>DH>Det is true for almost everyone, yeah
beside hitting required sks/sps values
Oh alright, ty 😄
It doesn't
hi im looking for bis list blue 60
oh BLU
cuz blue mahe is 60 max
im like thinking the gear quality
hm it kinda does, and I am vastly below it. thanks, neo ishgardian sps allocation
anyone have blue mahe bis list lev 60? with melds?
I'm a bit confused, even though ruin 1 is 20 more potency than ruin 2, shouldn't the lack of cast time actually make ruin 2 stronger?
They're both on the GCD. The lack of a cast time doesnt mean its faster
You're just frontloading damage
And frontloading doesn't mean more damage
By the time your gcd is back, ruin would have gone off and done more damage while you sat around doing nothing
you're still doing one cast every ~2.5 seconds
it's just that the damage happens at the beginning instead of the end
Yeah. Even though its instant, if you were to cast Ruin 1 back to back, and cast Ruin 2 back to back, it would take the same amount of time.
it's just that the damage happens at the beginning instead of the end
Oh this explained it to me, thanks
❤️
The only time Ruin II would be better is if you wouldn't have time to finish the 2.5s cast
like when the boss leaves
which is some like super high tier optimization type stuff
cause less damage is better than nothing
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how'd they get stubble on a hyur in the 5.3 trailer
By being devs, the Hyur had a stubble on other trailers too
I think they said they'd add it eventually but it's not ingame yet
Hello. I want to play a rogue and it seems you need to complete a level 10 class quest to unlock it. My question is can I make a new rogue character when I unlock it?
You don't make a new character
you can level every single class on a single character
then switch whenever you want
with no downside
Outside of combat, dungeons and stuff of course
So once you're lv10 and reach Limsa Lominsa, you'll be able to pick up the Rogue quest and switch to a level 1 rogue
You switch ingame seemlessly
you dont need another character
Ok so I guess I'll wait for the server to unlock
you don't need to create another character
yeah I get that
I just wanted to experience the game as a rogue from the start. But I assume the quests will be already completed when I switch. That's why I'm asking 🙂
you can't do rogue from the start
Yeah you can't
Switching to another character doesnt give you access to more classes
if you create another character that character won't be able to start as a rogue, you would have to do the rogue quest all over again on them
The requirements for unlock will still be the same
it doesn't save
Hmm what's the best way to level after switching classes ?
Because quests will be done right?
!faq altlvlguide
Not sidequests
your game progress is separate between all characters
Only
and 
they're almost like different accounts
Barely anything is ever shared between characters
Only the few Veteran Rewards and a few store items
also preorder bonuses and collector edition goodies
There's almost no reason to make a second character in this game
I guess main problem with a second character is that you'd have to go through the MSQ all over again right
not that big of a problem
can you start and finish stormblood within 5 days? pretty much got all day
Does anyone have a guide for crafting macros?
Trying to craft something with my level 50 weaver and I didnt realize all my macros got wiped.
hello guys im new and im currently leveling a paladin ,, i was wondering if crafting will benfite me in anyway while leveling ? should i bother pick a craft or leave it to max level ?
For Dancer, "Weaponskill" is GCD, "Ability" is oGCD?
Does anyone have a guide for crafting macros?
@mild ermine check the pins for #doh-dol-lounge you might find something worthwhile, or ask there
Ty
leveling crafting can get expensive, I think, especially if you're not also leveling up gatherers as well. I'd only really level up crafting if you like crafting
Im new to palace of the dead, do i do it in groups or?
yes, do matched groups! don't be like me and try to solo it at first and then giving up
Can it be done with duty finder?
you talk to the guy and say you want to do matched party
it'll try to pair you up with other people who look to do the same
@elfin edge so am i supposed to level gathering ? ,, or should i just keep leveling normally ?
what about roles etc?
You can initiate the queue by talking to the NPC in south shroud : quarrymill
Preferably take a healer player with you as you can get queued with no healer / no tank
@final zealot If you like crafting and making gear and stuff, you'll want to level up gatherers and crafters, but I think unless you really like it, you can put it off till later
@final zealot crafters and gatherers are optional content
You can do msq first
Then do those later
i came from wow so i figured there is something usfell like alchemy or herblism to get while leveling so
"Professions" in FF14 dont work at all like WoW.
Theyre good for making money later
they've got their own gear, and skills
Professions in XIV function very differently from in WoW. They're not simultaneous side content, but rather full jobs in and of themselves with their own gear and rotations.
And basically another game to learn
ooh so i should put them off to later ,, thanks guys
All crafters are equally as viable, yes? Since I’m almost max level as weaver and wondering if my stuff will be sold just as much as the other crafters
Yes
They are, since the different crafters make different parts of full sets of gear.
Its very hard to efficiently make money with just one
Except for Cul, Cul can make money by itself
and Alc i guess, too
Consumables are always a lucrative market since people have to buy them repeatedly
I’ve got my eyes on alchemy then
Consumables also dont really degrade in value over time, whereas gear does
ALC benefits from having both MIN and BTN leveled since it uses mats from both.
You'll need leatherworker to make SMN books via ALC, you'll need BSM and GSM materials for weapons, you'll need CRP for lumber for other weapons, etc etc etc
i.e. Neo-Ishgardian gear sold for WAY more when it first was introduced than it does today
Oh, so crafters collaborate to make a full item of sorts?
Crafting jobs are very interconnected, yes
Yeah. Most crafts require some sort of intermediary material from another crafter
Quite Interesting
That's why a lot of people will recommend leveling all crafters simultaneously rather than one at a time.
For weaver that might be leather from LTW, or ingots from GSM/BSM, etc.
Yeah I have everyone except CUL up to 50 at once, and now I'm slowly getting them to 63
and everyone needs Alc's Alkahests to make battle gear
@white sinew No, you're basically just scaled up. It'll look bigger, but only because your character is bigger too. You can try it out by picking a new character, choosing Gladiator as your starting job then editing your character's height with role armor on
After finishing the 100 quests post ultimate weapon. The Heavensward MSQ is really really good and emotional involving and even the post Heavensward Dragonsong War is quite good. How does the follow on expansion's story compare ? Are they just as good or better?
Better
Stormblood opinions varies depending what you like
But Shadowbringers blows heavensward out the water
Tenfold
Stormblood is....a bit slower paced than Heavensward at times.
and well, lets just say i'd rather have (Heavensward core cast) over (Stormblood core cast)
I really liked the storyline for the Alexander raids
But yeah ShB beats the everloving shit out of both of them
SB focused a lot on the fantasy politics and complications inherent in ||a war of revolution and the subsequent requirements to both hold onto your freedom and come up with a new governing system||
And a lot of people aren't really interested in that kind of plot.
Wow looking forward to that then, guess it's good that I start this game late, otherwise the 100 quest post ultimate weapon would have left a sour taste in my mount and I may not have stick around
How difficult is AST as first healer?
Its the most involved hesler
AST is probably the busiest of the healers. I wouldnt do that as my "learn to heal" job.
And needs planning for cooldowns
Moderately, I'd say? If it's the first one you're learning and you've never healed in any other game, it wouldn't be too bad.
So WHM or Scholar?
But if you've ever played as a healer before, you'll struggle.
The difference between a bad astro and good is pretty clear
WHM is the training wheels healer.
It really helps that the mentors here told me to stick it out as the expansions are good so thanks for that
So if you've never played a healer before, WHM is the way to go.
Go WHM if you like unicorns <_<
Never really played healer in any other game, but getting fed up with 25min+ queue times
@white sinew Gladiator's role armor is actual armor unlike other jobs so you'd be able to preview what armor will look like directly from inside the character creator
More like go WHM if you like basically being a DPS
Technically it's CNJ that gets the unicorn 😄
Wanted to try tank, but don't know the dungeons well enough
Just follow the straight line
Properly played WHM will feel like you're a DPS 80% of the time.
I think people in duty finder are generally pretty nice even if you don't know how a dungeon went
False. With a good party WHM will feel like you're a DPS 80% of the time.
the higher level players probably forgot how the lower level dungeons went anyway
With a bad party, WHM will feel like a healing bot with a mana battery attached.
Well, sure. I also refuse to heal dipshit tanks who just dont use any CD's at all, so that's me.
yeah main stress factors are undergeared players and lack of CDs
Not just you. We're all like that. WHM are the most vicious of healers. We sacrifice our party members to the blood lily
but tbh once WHM gets its full kit, you have to have a real derp of a tank for it to even matter
I'm not high enough level yet for blood lily >_>
I think I only have the first lily action right now
Solace? Practice using that. Get used to actually using your lilies and not holding them.
Yeah I remapped my entire set of hotbars because of that
Post-70 you're pretty much gonna be using lily on CD
I need to redo my RDM hotbars as well, now that I understand how everything plays together
I'd say less "you're using Lily on CD" and more "unless Lily is on CD you should be using exclusively Lilies and Bene to heal"
@white sinew Gladiator has more average looking armor so it'd be easier to tell. Anyway, point is, you know that's an option now
I personally like Rapture a lot better (it combos most satisfyingly with Plenary Indulgence), but Solace is useful if you're out of your other instant single-target healing options and you need a fast heal on a tank or dps
and Tetra but like
The WHM 65 quest was great practice for getting my hotbar together
Probably your eyes playing tricks?
personally in the 71-79 dungeons its so easy that sometimes i'd just dump lillies with rapture just to get misery's off.
They're tall and skinny so probably not
It was also super challenging until I realized I got poisoned halfway through and that was why I was dying
Depends what you're comparing them to
Literally just no reason to spend them on the tank
Afflatus Misery on ST is a DPS loss
That's the only reason you don't spam lilies more then you do
All gear and armor is stretched to fit your character so
Yeah, but prepping 3 Lily + full blood lily for the next trash pull after the boss is pretty ideal.
just look at lalafell
Oh absolutely
compared to Hrothgar or something
Yeah normally I pay more attention because I'm constantly looking at the party list, but for solo I have a tendency to focus too much on the target
for trash pulls? mash lillies for the blood lily
Its always greatly satisfying to outDPS everyone on trash as WHM
Considering your other AoE option is your ever-useful-but-disappointingly-low-potency flashbang Holy
@elfin edge If you don't already, it might be beneficial to always have your chocobo out when you're solo so you have a "party list" up at all times except in solo instances. It will get you in the habit of paying attention to your own status even when you're technically solo.
There's an option to always have it on regardless too
Also your chocobo can tank for you.
Yeah, for some reason I notice the Chocobo but I kind of mentally ignore myself lol
can't remember where though, it's been too long
which is just really nice
You can actually set your party frames so that if you have the chocobo summoned, it shows like instance party frames.
My chocobo doesn't generate enough aggro to tank for me 😦
So your name shows up too
Oh I see; I'll have to look into that
are you on defender stance with the choco kick
I do the stance, but I"m not sure how all the other chocobo actions work
I've found that at least makes it passable as an aggro soak
Is it more like a mode toggle rather than telling the chocobo to do that then and there?
Usually the chocobo is good at aggroing the "ads" in a boss FATE
I just leave my choco on free stance and let is play side healer. The tanking tree abilities are pretty useless.
Its a mode toggle. It forces them to only use skills from that modes tree
tis a toggle. One which healers should stick on Defender and otherwise ignore entirely imo.
I mean in addition to the stances
Except for the STR and HP ups, of course
for non-healers yeah free stance is good
As a healer I use free stance
Never spec into Tank tree until you've filled healer and dps trees.
really? To each his own I suppose
Yeah. As I said, the chocobo's ability to act as an effective tank vs player dps, even for healers, is pretty bad.
I found that the chocobo is pretty good at healing, mostly because it doesn't attract aggro and doesn't get killed by tougher monsters
I personally prefer to fill the attacker and defender trees first, because their passives supplement each other
nope!
No Kael. You go in as you are.
You don't get synced down or anything except for solo instances where there's a max sync level.
Think of it as NG+ in any other SQEX game. You keep your cool shit and get to just re-experience the story.
Is it still possible to recruit friends? I don't see the option on my mog station account page
for a old player like me what are the easier jobs to play
tis!
Red mage and dancer
so far my Bard is ok but I heard that some of the job are fairly complicated
They all have some level of complexity
Bard is DoT, song, and oGCD management as I understand it
disclaimer i do not play bard
Like WHM I heard is fairly complicate with all the timing and I don't want to let my part down
Seconding Vinyl's recommendations. RDM and DNC are super easy to pick up at least a basic level of competence.
being 60+ i'm not as fast as I used to be 😭
WHM is easy, but as a healer they have a certain level of responsibility in the party.
DNC is, at its core, a whole lot of "hit the glowy button"
definitely agree with DNC recommendation
it being ranged physical means you dont' have to deal with cast times
Red Mage is just watch your bars and you only have cast times to deal with half the time
also less likely of jumping off the edge lol
Ehh... I have definitely En Avant'd off the edge of platforms...
^
I don't think I even use it half the time tbh
It's great in the overworld tho
sometimes if you En Avant off a cliff you don't take fall damage
sometimes
what would you consider as hardest jobs in the game?
BLM
Depends
Hardest? SMN or NIN, maybe?
To pick up? SMN or NIN yeah
blm is hard to do well just due to the restrictions inherent
smn is hard to get everything correct to the degree of doing well
at lower percentiles, you end up dealing less damage than ranged physical
To master? add BLM to those
BLM is pretty straightforward, tbh. The hardest part of BLM is learning when and where you can stand still and turret cast.
Damn SMN (Samurai?) looks so cool ;-P
thx :)
SMN = Summoner
SAM = Samurai
ah thanks
SAM is a cool job
sam is veeery cool
Sam is my main! I love it
it also seems a pretty complex job to me
SAM is a nice, middle of the road difficulty job. Easy rotation, but it's melee so dealing with mechanics raises the difficulty 😄
satisfying rotation and also it gets fun little toys like
!action keishi setsugekka
samurai becomes complex in their optimization
yea hurtsthat eyes are going bad too at my age so sometime didn't notice the AOE orange with all the flashing going on 😭
!action setsugekka
!action kaeshi setsugekka
Delivers an attack with a potency of 1,200. Additional Effect: Grants a stack of Meditation, up to a maximum of 3 Triggers the cooldown of weaponskills upon execution. Cannot be executed during the cooldown of weaponskills.
※This action cannot be assigned to a hotbar.
yeah i was just looking for the haha 1200 potency button
Yeah, SAM gets some fun tools to play around with, but they're "selfish" dps.
Yeah, sam and blm both are 'my group utility is my dps output'
thta's why I went range for 1st toon
You know you can pick up more than one job on a single character, right?
yea
but I like having different looking toons ;-P
hi im a dnc we have a 1500 potency button but it costs 5 GCDs and is a 2 minute cooldown?
but I'll have at least a 2nd job on same toon
also i can't count so
@sullen pulsar Then you're better than me... I have five nearly identical toons on five different datacenters.
but I'm holding off on getting the other toon past ultimate weapon till 5.3
going through that 100 post ultimate weapon quest once is hell enough
why do you play of different DCs?
on
Three NA datacenters for three different groups of friends, plus an EU and a JP one just for the hell of it.
do you have time to sleep or sleep is overrated ;-P
It's not like I play them all all the time. I have a main (on Excalibur) and a secondary (on Zalera). The others I play when either I'm helping someone from here that's on one of those DCs or if I get bored with doing whatever I'm doing on my mains.
I also made a whole new character so I can play the MSQ from level 1 and see where things changed and how well they smoothed out the leveling xp when 5.3 comes out.
ah ok
I'm glad that the shelter in place made me get into FFXIV ;-P
as I think I've reach the end of the WWW ;-P
@halcyon glen and it's worth it. generally you'll line up devilment before tech step
and again, dnc is a support dps
the tech finish buff is granted to everyone
why everyday I get the same leveling 50 60 70 roulette in the same dungeon
probably because you haven't unlocked many 50 60 70 dungeons?
Do you have more than just two 50/60/70 dungeons unlocked?
bad luck, if you're sure it's not in the rotation
might also be getting a MSQ dungeon which way more people actually do have unlocked
oh, I thought they were also in leveling cause once on leveling roulette I got a trial
To be fair, I've had days where I've gotten the same leveling AND 50/60/70 roulette on two different characters.
Only the pre-lv50 trials 4-man are in levelling
https://pastebin.com/hkZcKBSL consult at your own risk, full list for roulette
Okay that was another question I had - devilment before or after tech step?
Ah oki ty
From what I've heard, Devilment > Tech
i'm not big on dnc but I believe there's call for either
Because apparently the lost gcds are worth the damage buff on Tech
i mean it's a 250k direct crit I think
That's what I was told the last time I asked about it in here, at least.
i'm literally in a call with an ultimate prog dnc so i can ask
I have asked, and @halcyon glen @open coral you're meant to devil after tech step, because it's about fitting as many gcd actions in devil as you can
you get more dps on paper from devilling everything else, than devilling tech step as well and losing 5 gcds
tbh i thought the same
Until everyone here was like "noooo you want to devil before Tech!"
I'm going back to my old rotation then: Tech > Devil > Standard (if up) Flourish > push all the shinies
yeah that's precisely what i was told
down to 'and put a gcd between them, something like rising windmill'
how are white aura called?
?
Raen.
Oh
oh oki thx
If I block someone, will they be able to send me FC invites?
No
unsure, i assume not
If you blacklist someone they can't whisper you or send you FC invites or party invites, and you'll mutually not see each others' party finder groups (but can still join the same one if someone else starts it).
Perfect
I stopped having to blacklist RMTs after they added the right click report feature.
I stopped bothering cause they're a dime a dozen
Yeah but all they did was make their ads more vague
my blacklist is just griefers and morons
My blacklist used to be full of RMTs, and I'd have to go through and clear out the "Unable to Retrieve" ones periodically.
If only blacklist would prevent you from having DF match you with them
If that was the case my blacklist would be PACKED with the baddies i see in DF
now that I think of it. I've been black listing every bot that types daily at limsa. but I guess there's a limit of ppl you can blacklist?
yeah, considering a lot of my blacklist is 'but I like spamming physick'
If you blacklist, will you see emote notifications from them in chat window?
You're limited to 200 players in your blacklist.
You won't
so black listing those is not a solution
Nope
I dont bother blacklisting the bots
I do so I see their message only once
Just report the bots using the "Report RMT" chat option
because they only shit up the say chat, which i cant be fucked with caring about
blacklisting PF sellers on the other hand, keeps my PF nice and clean and only showing me things that are valid
for someone always in limsa like me that's very annoying
might be your server :p
I go to Limsa only when the game requires it of me.
Limsa is full of degenerates on every server.
Honestly its every server
It's the hub for that.
Limsa is the best
haven't jumped in any and I'm there 24/7
Limsa has the most convenient market to the aetheryte, so a lot of people and bots end up parked there.
must have been lucky
Personally I prefer Gridania or the Crystarium. They're quieter, and a little less convenient, but at least there are fewer annoyances.
Limsa easiest to check MB and retainers. All others have to make another aetherite stop and run
A small price to pay if you're trying to avoid RMT spam
Still not worth the annoyance of being around the people who hang out in Limsa.
What should I spend my phantasmagoria/tomestones on?
That depends - do you need level 80 gear?
Crafting mats and sell them or use them.
Not particularly, I have neo ishgardian/crystarium
Then as Balmerick suggested, buy crafting mats to sell or use.
What mats from those two usually sell well?
That's going to be up to your server's economy
You can check out the prices of things on the market board and then buy up whatever sells highest
You have to check your servers MB, but in general Dried Hi-Ether is very reliable just because of it being for a consumable
Nice, ill just grab a bunch of those
I’m level 80 in all crafters. Is there a point for doing Skybuilders quests in Ishgard?
For the tickets for the moogle lottery thing, maybe if you want some of the stuff you can get from that?
What do you win
There's stuff like a parasol and some glamour items, I think? i'm not really sure because I don't have a crafter high enough CP to make the collectibles
Where's the auto skip CS Again mine has reset somehow
Minions, mounts, emote, parasol, generally stuff to sell for money
Ishgard restoration items can go for good gil
Especially with lesser people doing it currently
My Free Company chest is full of Approved Skybuilder materials. What is going on there?
What would I be buying with poetics that can be sold on the market?
Found it nvm
Materia 6
Have you bought armor for each class? It's particularly worth it tbh
I have armor for all the classes Im going to play
Ironworks, Shire and Scaevean all augmented?
You can buy materia 6 for 800, and sell it
Neo ishgardian
If you're level 80 and have unlocked the relic weapon for at least one class, you can buy the Thavnairan Scalesand that you use to buy additional relics.
You command it to do skills
@ionic hazel A little of both.
Oh all your classes are 80 that your going to play?
You need at least place and heel
I have relic weapons for all the classes im gonna play
To position the fairy
and yes
The rest is your skills and some skills come off the fairy
It will auto use Embrace, but you can also command it to use things like Whispering Dawn

