Which is apart of the Four Lords line
#questions-and-help
ruby solstice
thx
latent prism
why doesn't the mb show demand for partial match?
vagrant copper
🤷♂️ Probably just some server load kind of thing. or a bug
zinc orbitBOT
sweet frigate
So got to lvl 54 there is a quest call a relic reborn do I need to do it rn or i can leave it and do it later..?
vagrant copper
You can most certainly leave that for later (if ever)
faint flare
Its a super grindy quest line for shiny weapons
Best left for.later when you can solo dungeons for iy
Expansions are one time purchase
The subscription is to actually access the game
gritty oracle
Does handking have the same stats as individual 70 doh script gear (say, boltking)
bright badger
Does anyone know if there is a DRK weapon or PLD weapon shaped like a cross, I am trying tk fullfil my edgy Castlevania cosplay
gloomy ice
Handking is better than Boltking.
I'm certain there are a few cross shaped PLD swords but I can't quite think of any off hand.
I know for a fact however that this is a thing that you might like.
DRK's HW relic, Cronus.
There's also Cronus Lux, which is the same shape but the glow is purple.
bright badger
Hmm
woeful nacelle
Does anyone know if Saint Mocianne's Arbotoreum gives anima progress ?
vagrant copper
I'm totally blanking. Where was the HOH entrance again? It's not the front door...
sturdy mason
what stats does DNC want from gear?
woeful nacelle
crit then dh
gloomy ice
For light? Yeah Arboretum should. Although I just used Bray HM.
woeful nacelle
Ah ok , yeah I was just thinking of doing it because I want the plague doctor coat but it seems quite a bit slower
obsidian patio
@woeful nacelle yes. All level 50-60 duties give progress towards anima light
agile laurel
@vagrant copper it should be. go from the aetheryte, away from the buildings, you have some drying lines and then a shed on your right
i'd say north/south/whatever but i can't recall bearings for that zone
brain say north
vagrant copper
Yeah, I found it. I was going up the scaffolding and looking around. Then I found out you need to be level 61 and not level 60. -_-;;
agile laurel
ooft
leaden ginkgo
If i did realm reborn quest skip do i not get fantasia?
gloomy ice
Yes, if you skipped it, the free fanta is gone.
zinc orbitBOT
wintry chasm
what stats does DNC want from gear?
Dex, you can't really pick what gear you want outside of the level 60 shire accessories so you really can't make a mistake because you can't wear anything else @sturdy mason
sturdy mason
Yeah I realized 60 gear requires job anyway so it was a moot question 😦
Thank you though
Random other question: Any other boots that look similar to Bootlets of Eternal Innocence?
wintry sable
I have questions regarding end-game
I geared my main with full neo-ish set. I aimed to do savage and get 490-500 gear but... do i seriously have to wait each week just for one antiquity?
final carbon
Anyone know what this emote is? It seems to be a persistent emote but I can’t find it anywhere. I was too shy to ask directly owo
halcyon glen
I believe that's /hum?
gloomy ice
@final carbon That's /hum. It comes from the Four Lords side quest chain from Stormblood.
obsidian wren
halcyon glen
Which you should do because it has 3 of the most fun trials in the game
but yes you also get an emote
gloomy ice
@wintry sable Gear is still weekly locked, yes. Normal mode uses that token system while Savage mode contains actual drops. But, yeah, drops are weekly locked for the time being.
final carbon
Great thanks so much 😄 I’ll go do that now!
wintry sable
Savage mode contain actual gear?
halcyon glen
Still a weekly limit, but yes
wintry sable
one each week?
gloomy ice
Well Savage uses a slightly different drop system.
wintry sable
I haven't done a savage raid before so i have no single idea about how it works
faint flare
Savage drops coffers
Which contains gesr
You can get as much as you want that drops
But you get ine CHANCE
On loot
After the first clear, you're locked out for the week
gloomy ice
You get to roll on drops once per floor per week. You could, in theory, walk away with everything. But that's unlikely. If you miss the gear drop, you'll still get a token that you can exchange after earning four. However, if you skip a floor, you forfeit all drops from lower floors.
faint flare
Regardless how much you gey
You also get a book which you can trade in for gear when you get enough
wintry sable
So everything depends on the first raid savage
Either get gear and more if lucky. And if not then a token
the token is once per week
i got it right?
wintry sable
Token isn't locked behind weekly limit?
wintry sable
:I
gloomy ice
Note that these locks apply only to Eden's Verse. Which is E5-8. All other savages are unlocked.
wintry sable
If i am not mistaken. Eden's Verse is the only raid that gives a better gear than neo-ish
faint flare
Yes
wintry sable
So i'm only interested in knowing how it works
faint flare
The nier raid next patch gives i490 as well, which is weekly locked
wintry sable
One gear and it's locked?
wintry sable
So it isn't per boss
static yacht
but the moment you get a bsos
get a piece of gear from it**
you can't get any other gear
for that week
with savage, you can run it as many times as you want
faint flare
You also get a coin on clearing which is traded.with the coin from the Copied factory for allegory upgrades
static yacht
and you can roll to potentially win every piece of gear
or you can get nothing
but after you do the fight one
faint flare
The coin from the new raid is weekly locked
static yacht
you will not get anymore gear
wintry sable
So literally gearing in end-game is very slow
faint flare
Yes
static yacht
yes
halcyon glen
My limited understanding is that 480 is the standard baseline for what's expected to be brought into content for this patch and the next. Upgrades come when they come.
wintry sable
That's it
static yacht
the weekly lock out
faint flare
Depending on luck
wintry sable
Not encouraging tbh
static yacht
it's not
faint flare
I was bis in like 3 or 4 weeks, not that long
static yacht
tf did you get fed literally everything LOL
faint flare
Well discounting allegory
static yacht
ah ok
faint flare
Savage gear wise
wintry sable
The weekly limit includes just the raid i played or all the raids?
static yacht
just the raid you play
little swift
if you don't play it you don't get rewards
faint flare
Each lock is seperate from each other
little swift
keep in mind though if you skip floors on savage and clear, you can't go back and do them for the week
wintry sable
So literally. You have 4 weekly limits each for every savage Eden's verse raid
halcyon glen
so you get one clear with loot from e5s, one from e6s, one from e7s, and one from e8s each weel
static yacht
yep
faint flare
Each fight has their own lockout yes
halcyon glen
provided you do them in that order
faint flare
Like we said earlier, no skipping floors
wintry sable
So no for jumping to e8s
faint flare
No
halcyon glen
right
wintry sable
That's tricky
little swift
it basically just marks them as completed
faint flare
Even if you never touch the boss
faint flare
Like the weekly lock os there but its not terrible
wintry sable
Do people take in new players or keep to themselves?
static yacht
both
you can create a party to have it so that
only people who have cleared can join
faint flare
Learning parties pop up now and then
And raiders are bored so people help out
If you let them
wintry sable
How much savage is harder than normal version?
static yacht
a lot
faint flare
Quite
static yacht
there are DPS checks
so if you aren't good at your job
you won't clear unless you get carried
halcyon glen
normal doesn't have savage light rampant
wintry sable
So i have to learn the normal mechanics completely before jumping into savage
static yacht
not necessarily
sometimes normal is very different from savage
and its worse if you do normal first
wintry sable
Mhm...
wintry sable
Portals in e7 is pretty hard
halcyon glen
Portals in E7S is that but you're expected to do more shit with them
wintry sable
So it's okay if i messed with them
faint flare
There's literally a strat called "braindead" for portals
Cause they're pretty damn braindead
wintry sable
So be good with normal before jumping into savage. But not after knowing all mechanics and expecting them
static yacht
tbh
you just need to clear normal once
and then you can just watch a video for savage
wintry sable
I'm a practical guy
static yacht
then your best option is to just join learning parties
do know that
people usually expect you to have watched the video
anyways
unless it specifically says "blind prog"
mossy tartan
Is there any time schedule(s) that show when the moon becomes visible in kugane?
wintry sable
A lot of work :I
lime sphinx
How do you guys setup your performance keybinds ?
faint flare
You can practice in Extreme modes in a sense. Extreme difficultu is inbetween normal mode and savage
For a taste of what to expect
All be it a different fight
wintry sable
Alright 🙂
zinc orbitBOT
leaden ginkgo
Does doing highest level raid give any good exp compared to highest level dungeon?
halcyon glen
Raids are all on-level content for one expansion or another (which is to say a multiple of 10) so they’re fairly low exp generally afaik
Roulette bonus is nice daily tho
halcyon glen
Even with dungeons, the highest level dungeon that isn’t a multiple of 10 gives more exp than any 50/60/70 dungeon
steady lagoon
Where should I fish at lvl 16?
leaden ginkgo
And is the plate like related to leve type or smth?
little swift
leveplates denote the type of leve it is
spare plinth
I’m playing blm for arr but for heavensward onward, I’m planning on switching to rdm instead. Would that be a good idea for a new player?
faint flare
If you want to
agile cliff
faint flare
You need a free company or a friend house to TP you
I dont think you can buy apartments though
Until you do the respective housing unlock quesy
leaden ginkgo
how do treasure hunts with multiple people work exactly? does everyone bring their own map and rotate who uses theirs?
sweet wolf
I
faint flare
Typically yes
sweet wolf
If i forgot my password to my square enix account, and i did the "forgot pw/id" and put in my mail but nothing shows up at all ? like 20min ago i did it what am i supposed to do? <.<
leaden ginkgo
Support is a little slow rn due to the rona
sweet wolf
Just bought newest expan activated it and got a msg "recent suspicious activity" bla bla bla , i need to reset my pw.
Why should i need support to reset my pw? i mean are they running a old system where they will send me a real life letter with the reset link lol.. <.<
@leaden ginkgo
slate crow
Is it here or elsewhere to ask about spoilery stuff?
faint flare
For lore specific quests #archived-lore-spoilers
Otherwise here is fine but spoiler tag
stray dawn
is it normal that I cant use any lv 51+ skills when im at msq 57?
faint flare
Do your job quests
slate crow
It’s the tail end of HW ||Alisae tells us that the WoD are going to kill Garuda, but isn’t that what we were doing anyway?||
zinc orbitBOT
stray dawn
how do I find out where to do the next job quest?
sweet wolf
Oh well so far its 20€ down the drain since their fkin reset password system sucks balls <.<
summer stirrup
What does it mean to spiritbond with an armor piece?
sweet wolf
So stupid, i tried with 4 other emails which doesnt have a SE account, they arrive instantly,., if i try witht the one which actually does have a fkin account on it, it doesnt arrive...
little swift
!help aglam
zinc orbitBOT
sudden wolf
Thank you
languid oracle
where do i ask for ppl, to join trial (server)
languid oracle
bowl of embers extreme
little swift
party finder
put it up as undersized party
and have a couple of lv80s blow it up for you
its older content people don't do it synced anymore
little swift
and ex and above content is usually completed via party finder now
languid oracle
gotcha!
olive inlet
I get what the orange and blue colored fonts are but whats the grey one?
obsidian patio
It means it doesn’t have another tag
olive inlet
oh i see, ty
raw solstice
it sends you a dm
obsidian wren
Does using the command again not work?
obsidian wren
@sleek roost do you know how to make kupo send a new iam verification code?
tardy bay
can anyone explain to me the point of the armoire?
Why should I store things there if I can't use them for glamours then?
obsidian patio
You can access the armoire through the dresser when making a plate
warped nest
If you need them for direct glamour just pull them out
faint flare
Its free to go in the armourie
Only for certain items though
But they dont count towards the dressers 400 item capacity
tardy bay
ah, I have never once spotted the "open armoire" option
rotund karma
Would this be the best channel to ask about a install/patch related question, or would there be a better one?
ionic hazel
@rotund karma yes
obsidian patio
@slate oak x26, y28
obsidian patio
It’s directly south of Camp Dragonhead in Coerthas Central Highlands.
slate oak
ok i think i got it,thank you so much
crimson wind
You could also click on the 
in the top left corner of your screen to see his location
slate oak
it wasnt activated so had to find him to get it started
rotund karma
Okay, so I just moved my install folder from a HDD to a SSD and now it's trying to patch "H2017.06.06.0000.0001a", which is 31 gbs when I was literally playing it 5 minutes prior to moving the game over
Anyone have any suggestions/tips?
If it helps at all, it's the Steam version specifically
static yacht
what duty? what is your ilvl?
tidal yarrow
it's for a drk quest and I have to like interact with some dark flames that do damage to me
static yacht
what level is the quest
rotund karma
@static yacht I double checked and it's looking at the correct directory, I also moved over my "My Documents" files for the game,
tidal yarrow
30
halcyon glen
If you interact with too many darkness bad stuff happens
tidal yarrow
but what's the point of interacting with them? can I just ignore them?
tidal yarrow
oh so idc
zinc orbitBOT
tidal yarrow
since I do a lot of dmg
faint flare
Take them, free damage and speeds it up
tidal yarrow
I just failed it 4 times lol
on very easy I already 2 hit everyone
I thought I had to take all the flames lol
so i kept dying
warped nest
going beyond this quest, you will encounter similar mechanics where you want to eat just enough debuff or orbs
tidal yarrow
it was so easy, just me dumb lol
halcyon glen
As Kingdom Hearts taught us many times before, too much darkness = bad
sleek roost
@sleek roost do you know how to make kupo send a new iam verification code?
@obsidian wren I dont think we've built that yet? You can do an!iam nobodyand then!iam Server First Lastto reset it technically
Although if push comes to shove I can pull up someone's verification code if they need it and dont want to reset their char details
obsidian wren
They had dms disabled so kupo didnt send them any
sleek roost
Who was it?
obsidian wren
@ionic hazel
sleek roost
Cool. I'll take that to DMs
leaden ginkgo
is there a way to obtain the dyeable eternal bonding glamours without having to cancel the ceremony/divorce?
normal breach
if an equipment im wearing is 100% spiritbond should i be extracting the material?
or do i get any bonus in stats if its 100% spiritbond that i shouldnt extract
little swift
just extract
no reason not to
it just resets the spiritbond to 1%
there's no bonus
spiritbond only creates materia
normal breach
so im sellin a bunch of old gear
its better to extrat material before selling
im selling to npcs cause they are wrothless
little swift
you could sell it on mb if they're worth something
or you could go back to mutamix
and transmute them
see if you get something better
materia 1/2 is used for the level50 relic weapon still iirc
so they might be worth something
leaden ginkgo
is there a way to replay job quests?
faint flare
Not yet
leaden ginkgo
I really enjoyed the black mage quest, the plot is so good
can't wait to try other jobs and check their story
PLD quest was kinda meh tho
they should really try to differentiate a GLD from a PLD after changing jobs
rich bay
Can someone tell me where you can find the Portable Archive?
So you can read the entries in it?
leaden ginkgo
it's weird that I see my skill procs instantly on my hotbar (button shines) but the actual proc indicator message takes longer to pop-up on my screen
Is there a way to fix this?
faint flare
Thats just how the flying text workd
leaden ginkgo
it's hard to react to the flying text when the actual proc shows first on my hotbar
I know this is no guitar hero, but I expected them to appear at the same time
zinc orbitBOT
faint flare
Server ticks boi
leaden ginkgo
hmm go figure
I got an idea
before I try this, is there a way to dynamically change between HUD layouts? (with dynamically I mean being able to change between layouts during battle)
faint flare
You can macro change hud layouts
Idk if you can change in battle, dont think many have tried it
latent prism
why do people use bountiful harvest instead of blessed harvest?
warped nest
!action Bountiful Harvest
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warped nest
!action Blessed Harvest
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warped nest
Bountiful is more GP effective in some cases and give you more GP with play with
For example, legendary nodes can come with +2 gathering attempts, which give you 6 tries
warped nest
After the first 5, you can use a skill to make all remaining attempts always yield HQ
latent prism
what about pick clean though
warped nest
You can then use a skill to add yield to a maximum of +2
Then you use Bountiful, which gives +1
faint flare
Pick clean is pretty good
warped nest
So with 1 try remaining, you can get up to 4 HQ items
fluid escarp
How to unlock raids?
latent prism
i've just been using pick clean + Blessed harvest II every legendary/unspoiled nodes
twilit arch
they stack
warped nest
!action Pick Clean
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twilit arch
so you can use blessed with bountiful, provided you've got the gp
warped nest
Yeah, Blessed II is up to +2/+3 right?
latent prism
i don't think i've ever got +3 on lvl 80 nodes
warped nest
Raids are the endgame contents, Velga, so in lvl 50, 60, 70, 80 zones
latent prism
though I'm only on skysteel+1
fluid escarp
I’m lv 60
warped nest
Raid are 8 players contents, while Alliance raids are 24 players contents
fluid escarp
I’ve never seen a raid but it’s there in the menu
zinc orbitBOT
faint flare
See arr and heavensward for their unlocks
fluid escarp
Oh okay thanks
warped nest
!action Blessed Harvest II
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warped nest
OK, just +2
Another use case: some nodes come with a Location Effect that massively buff their HQ rate
Use Blessed II to get +2 on all tries
Then use Bountiful to stack on +1
This give you chances to get 3 to 4 HQ items
At lvl 68, you get Bountiful Harvest II, which can be +1/+2/+3
Then you need to work out if you should spend 500 GP for +2 on all tries, or 100 GP for +2/+3 on specific tries
sturdy mason
is Heaven on High the best way to level up DPS at 62 when all roulettes are done?
warped nest
Assuming your dungeon queue is significantly worse, yes
If dungeon queue are like 10-15 minutes wait time, dungeons are still better
sturdy mason
level 1 2 and 3?
mossy tartan
Is there a way to not let my expressions appear in the chat? As in I would press the “smile” expression emote, but I don’t want it to appear in the chat
obsidian wren
Yeah, theres a toggle in the emote menu
proud willow
if you're typing the emote in chat, you can also put the word "motion" at the end, like /smile motion
zinc orbitBOT
pure oasis
trying to figure out how not to share cross bars with other classes
little mixed up atm
faint flare
Character config > hotbars > sharing > turn sharing off on cross hotbars
steel wedge
Is Soulscourge currently the best weapon for BLM?
leaden ginkgo
at what level would I need to change my non-upgraded shire set?
faint flare
63 is when gear starts beating it
leaden ginkgo
thanks
steel wedge
The savage weapon. Edenchoir is
@faint flare
so then why do such a long quest then for a 5.25 weapon that is inferior to one that is from 5.2?
faint flare
Because relics start out weaker than savage but eventually beat it at the end of the expansion
Plus relics are more aimed for casuals
Aka non raiders
Who wont get raid weapons
steel wedge
But raid has lore and story why would they not
warped nest
I don't need PS+ to play XIV right?
steel wedge
What do you mean a relic gets better by the end of expansion?
warped nest
Good, mine expires and I don't really want to refresh it
faint flare
Over the course of the expansion we upgrade relics
jade quartz
Further upgrade steps for the relic will be released.
warped nest
Relic are slowly upgraded with new quests and grind through different patches
faint flare
And at the end, its on par/better than savage
Our next upgrade to it is 5.35
With all the bojza stuff
steel wedge
By way of a quest or tokens of something?
jade quartz
Various stuff
warped nest
In terms of weapon ilvl, usually, Savage > augmented capped tomestone > relic = highest EX trials
faint flare
Or anima
steel wedge
Ah ok cool ty
faint flare
To see examples
steel wedge
Are the older relic weapons even worth doing after they get past by?
jade quartz
Glamour
warped nest
ARR and HW relics are basically do contents and get materials from existing stuff, while SB relic has a separate map for this purpose
steel wedge
Ah I see
warped nest
They are very fancy glamour
faint flare
Like with everything. Stuff becomes glamour when outdated
warped nest
@steel wedge take note that jobs don't get relics retroactively
For example, Samurai is introduced in Stormblood
So it doesn't get ARR or HW relics
nova umbra
robust crow
very specific question incoming
idle ledge
I'd say definitely yes if you have Bane, and before then, still dot one or two mobs since I think you get Fester pretty early now.
robust crow
has anyone here raided savage for ff14 on both a normal PS4 and a PS4 pro?
if so, how does the PS4 pro's frame rate compare to the normal ps4
or maybe the nier raid would be a more demanding raid...
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mild salmon
Yo im leveling for the first time and just passed 50. is there any reason / major benefit to going around unlocking the instances that became available at 50?
proud willow
each unique dungeon/trial/raid you complete gives you a first-time bonus, which will be Tomestones of Poetics for all the level 50 content
faint flare
@nova umbra if there's 3+ mobs just bane
proud willow
you can also get access to the Alliance Raid roulette which is a good daily source of XP
jade quartz
Some have major stories which are relevant to the MSQ later
For example, Shadowbringers’ main story quest has some notable dialogue changes that occur if you’ve completed the Crystal Tower raid series
faint flare
Which will be mandatory to do starting the 11th
slate crow
Is New Game+ any good?
slate crow
Can you get exp from it if you do with other jobs?
jade quartz
Nope
twilit arch
no, you get nothing from it
jade quartz
No exp
twilit arch
its just there to replay thru the story
slate crow
So, it’s mostly useless unless you need a reminder and don’t want to make a new character.
jade quartz
It’s purely for re-experiencing the story yes
twilit arch
its not useless
slate crow
“Mostly” useless.
twilit arch
being able to re do the story without having to make a new character has been heavily requested
jade quartz
Can get screenshots of ShB ||Norvrandt under primordial Light again|| for example
twilit arch
it does exactly what it was intended to do, therefore not useless
slate crow
You seem keen to defend it. XD
twilit arch
I am, because its not a useless feature just because its not what you want from it
strange coral
Useless to you does not mean useless to everybody
leaden ginkgo
should I bother with wondrous tails as new player? (currently lvl 60)
slate crow
Never said it was useless for everyone, so you’re braying wasn’t needed, but go off.
jade quartz
Still rewards useful stuff
jade quartz
@slate crow there is no need to be rude. You received direct answers.
twilit arch
basically, do any of the instances listed to get 9 stickers
slate crow
I was being treated like I spat upon it, thus I defended myself.
twilit arch
then turn into khloe for a reward
jade quartz
You have misinterpreted other people’s comments then.
leaden ginkgo
well it lists some raids I'm definitely not geared to do at my current level
twilit arch
you can always reset
to redo a certain instance
if there are instances you're not able to do easily
jade quartz
You don’t have to do everything on the card
slate crow
It did that to me as well. Can’t remember which one it gave me. You just need 9 max.
leaden ginkgo
does my card progress carry over to next week?
gloomy mortar
No
jade quartz
The card can last two weeks
Then it will expire, and become useless if you haven’t handed it in.
twilit arch
the only things that carry over are second chance points
gloomy mortar
Mostly useless
slate crow
^
jade quartz
If you have not handed it in after two weeks, it completely useless.
warped nest
When you complete a listed content, you get a seal, the goal is to get 9 seals and form as many line as possible.
You can reset a content so you can do it again for seal, this cost 1 thingy (I forgot the name of the thingy).
You can spend 2 thingy to shuffle the positions of the seals on your scratch card, this allows you to realign the seals to fish for Lines
jade quartz
Not “mostly”.
warped nest
You get 1 thingy whenever you complete any content with new players in it
slate crow
Does anyone shuffle more than they use the other SC?
twilit arch
the rewards are the same for everyone
warped nest
Random content from a pool, but I think the reward is the same
gloomy mortar
I was making a joke
jade quartz
Random duties.
twilit arch
but the instances you're require to do are different
warped nest
But they are fixed on what type of contents
slate crow
I was making a joke
@gloomy mortar I’m probably the only one who got it.
warped nest
So you will always get 1 PvP content, 3 EX trials (?), etc etc
my current card has 4 tails I can do at my current level
@leaden ginkgo you can spend a thingy to reset a instance you have completed
jade quartz
This isn’t the place for jokes that could give misinformation.
warped nest
This lets you redo the same instance again to get a new seal
slate crow
^ i use that one the most
warped nest
I am sorry that I used the word thingy, I genuinely don't remember the exact name of that thing
leaden ginkgo
ok but those second chance points seem valuable for when I get a card with something I really need
warped nest
Oh, second chance points
jade quartz
You get second chance points every time you complete an instance with a first timer in the party
leaden ginkgo
I don't really need anything of what I see there, but the 20 MGP platinum cards look sexy
jade quartz
They’re not hard to get.
slate crow
I’ve never even been to the Golden Saucer.
leaden ginkgo
ok so random
slate crow
Seemed mostly useless to me
warped nest
Seeing that you are just lvl 60, just move along with msq, and do WT whenever there's a reward you want
WT do have some unique minion
(I think)
gloomy mortar
The wiki says that Retainers’ gathering on ventures is affected by Item Level. So should I equip them with level 80 earrings/rings even though they don’t increase Gathering stats?
Or is the wiki outdated
jade quartz
That’s not entirely accurate
leaden ginkgo
is trust available for arr to sb dungeons?
Seeing that you are just lvl 60, just move along with msq, and do WT whenever there's a reward you want
@warped nest this is what I understand. However, I can only complete 4 tails this week, so that probably wont get me any line (I don't know how you can make the seals match)
oak ice
Combat ones use ilvl, gatherers use the gathering stat
warped nest
is trust available for arr to sb dungeons?
@leaden ginkgo no
jade quartz
Battle retainers use item level. Gatherers use gathering.
twilit arch
no, only shadowbringers @leaden ginkgo
jade quartz
!faq retainerbp
zinc orbitBOT
leaden ginkgo
okay thanks
jade quartz
Those are the caps for maximum yields
warped nest
Trust are not AI, trust are just running pre-made scripts to kill enemies in a specific way
@leaden ginkgo you can shuffle the seal position to fish for lines, but we usually do it at 7 seals
gloomy mortar
My retainers gathering stat is about 2020. Is going for the max 2083 worth it?
warped nest
Probably not
warped nest
Btw, this is breakpoint for max yield (at higher level)
You definitely hit the max yield for most if not all the stuff before ShB
jade quartz
This affects “rare item yield” for exploration ventures also
gloomy mortar
Retainers are at Max level 80. Before logging off for the night, should I send them on a Woodland Expedition XXV every time? Or should I target certain expeditions?
jade quartz
Yeah that’s fine
gloomy mortar
If you send out a retainer to go get, Gold Ore for example, about how much should you expect them to bring back? HQ?
leaden ginkgo
i cant wear my choker for this glam, but im the correct class and level for it, why? is it due to its item level? (which is higher than what i curently have)
signal garnet
Is ex shinryu able to be done with one tank?
twilit arch
what level is the neck you're wearing @leaden ginkgo
because you can't glamour a higher level item onto a lower level one
left crater
Hi, what to do with the insane amount of Anemos Jacket drop from you know where? I have been selling them...but is there a hidden use? lol
twilit arch
i.e your neck is lvl 53 or below, thats why it won't work
nope, there's not extra to do with anemos jackets
left crater
sad
zinc orbitBOT
gloomy mortar
Can green gear drops from dungeons be crafted in general?
twilit arch
no, sometimes there is crafted gear that shares models with dungeon gear
gloomy mortar
Is there a place to look up what green gear shares models with crafted gear?
jade quartz
Garlandtools database shows shared models for a given piece of gear
mossy tartan
When I check off “display log message” other players won’t see the emote in the chat log, correct?
jade quartz
Correct
leaden ginkgo
@twilit arch ooh yeah thats why tysm
gloomy mortar
If you blacklist someone, will you see their emote log message to you too?
jade quartz
Err I certainly don’t think so
gloomy mortar
What about their signature book messages at FC houses?
stark jewel
hey after using fantasia potion i cant find my gear in inventory. my glamour is still there but it seems like i lost everything. i changed from male lala to female hyur
anyone knows whats up X--X i made sure to remove gear before use
obsidian patio
Check your armoury
stark jewel
yes
jade quartz
They won’t be able to write messages in your personal message book @gloomy mortar I’m not sure about FCs and whether you’ll be able to see them there
obsidian patio
If you remember the name of a piece or two try the isearch command
/isearch “item name”
Fantasia doesn’t do anything to your gear so you likely misplaced it somewhere or accidentally tossed it.
stark jewel
@obsidian patio oki let me try that! thank you
twilit arch
it means the items is/was on a mannequin
jade quartz
Means the item is on someone’s mannequin in their house
Which is an odd system that can be connected to a retainer marketboard listing.
noble ember
Oh, that person lucked out they snagged a sword for 100 gil when its normally 400k+
jade quartz
Basically lets people set up their houses as clothing shops where you can buy things from an outfit
It’s not really used much
gloomy mortar
There has been a 5-person dance troupe outside Limsa MB, dancing all day for the last week. How is that done? 5 people just leave their computers on all day?
jade quartz
Bingo
faint flare
The things people do waiting for new content 
fiery urchin
frontline roulette rewards good exp?
little swift
its not bad
fiery urchin
coolio
twilit arch
uh, nothing in game. Since the achievement for completing quests only goes to 100
versed bridge
Does fester get increased potency if you bane the dots? What about tri-disaster?
gloomy ice
It only considers the target that you use it on. Others are not factored in. Tridisaster counts for Fester since it's simply using both DoTs at once.
mental garnet
wow ShB story so far is just a kick in the nuts. is it this depressing throughout?
gloomy ice
It picks up in its tone later. It just comes in swinging.
In fact I'd say some of the best comedic moments of the main story are found in ShB. After the gut punch that is the opening chapters, it finds a nice pace of using levity to break up the otherwise gloomy atmosphere.
zinc orbitBOT
lime geode
Sigh. Why are there Rowena's Token (lore) and (scripture). Of course I bought the one at the top. Ugh.
twilit arch
because one, released at different times, and two, used for different sets of gear
lime geode
it feels like it could have been designed in a way to not be so easy to buy the wrong thing
What are the lore ones for now that I have 10?
twilit arch
the eikonic gear
leaden ginkgo
Question about these level 50 post ARR dungeons: in the duty finder is “average ilevel” the minimum ilevel requirement? While “ilevel sync” is what high level players will be synced down to?
twilit arch
yes, average ilvl is the minimum ilvl required to enter the dungeon
warped nest
Yes
twilit arch
and ilvl sync is what you will be put at if you're over that ilvl
leaden ginkgo
Ok good thanks. I had been holding off at first because I thought I needed all 120 gear lol
warped nest
Mandatory content and dungeons usually don't have (relatively) high ilvl requirements
leaden ginkgo
Yeah it’s three to make sure people don’t walk in with totally crap gear I suppose
warped nest
!daily
zinc orbitBOT
Tick, Tock, Kupo!
idle sentinel
Ty!
trim rover
How do I increase quality when crafting collectables/how to max it? Is there a rotation? When I look it up I find some old/outdated guides that mention skills that aren't in game anymore.
trim rover
Thank you. I'll give that a look
storm rampart
I've been nervous about getting into PVP, but I gotta ask, is it worth it?
simple shore
People barely even care about it
twilit arch
has some nice glamours, and its a way to level a job without having to play it
simple shore
"Nervous" is not an appropriate thing to feel about FF14's PVP
twilit arch
since you get exp for the job you queue with, not the job you're playing as in pvp
simple shore
Since its, well.....you'll see. It exists. That's what i'll say for FF14 PVP.
storm rampart
Huh, I'll give it a shot tomorrow I guess, from what I heard it's barren unless it's a weekend
pearl wharf
is there a special limit break that happens when you LB ultima in praetorium?
simple shore
No, other than the absolute shock that you managed to get an LB bar on Ultima
twilit arch
not as far as i recall
weary umbra
pearl wharf
i saw one where it LB'd everybody lit up and everybody motioned the same
it was short
simple shore
That's....just a normal LB?
pearl wharf
really?
twilit arch
everyone does the victory emote when the lb is used
simple shore
Either way, if you're getting to LB at all in Praetorium, things have gone completely sideways.
pearl wharf
well it lasted 50 minutes
um
we got 1 bar during the 2nd to last fight
or was it the first ultima fight
deft quiver
i need 10 million xp to get to lvl 80. I did all my daily roulettes including frontline. Already did the easy weekly logs, what other options are there?
slate arrow
Trusts or dungeons
robust crow
wait till tomorrow or yeah, trusts/dungeons, the highest one you can do
pixie beast tribe dailies too
zinc orbitBOT
deft quiver
ill do that then
and see how far it brings me
hopefully to 80
also, im on the crystal sand stage of anima weapon, is there a way to get the sand with poetics?
robust crow
not sure if you can get sand with poetics, since poetics are busy being dumped on the umbrite
easiest way is through crafter scrips
and custom deliveries
deft quiver
i already got the umbrite and need scripts for the folklore books
how many scrips do i need roughly?
robust crow
one week's worht of custom deliveries will get you like halfway
gloomy ice
Only other way, without scrips, would be to leve grind for ambers.
deft quiver
im capped on yellow scrips atm
twilit arch
you need between 3750 and 5000 scrips
robust crow
and turn them in for sand
gloomy ice
Well, it isn't the only way but it's the second most time efficient next to scrips.
vocal shell
You could also buy moonstones using GC seals
leaden ginkgo
whens a good time to do crystal tower quests(this is 24man content right?) just found out the quest line and im already starting shb...
fervent hazel
Anyone can help me unsync dun scaith :(? I queued it for like 16th time and still don't have the minion ._.
warped nest
@leaden ginkgo finish it before you do more ShB
leaden ginkgo
does it tie in with story?
warped nest
Should take you no time at all
It adds additional details to the ShB story
I cannot say more as it would be spoiler
vagrant copper
Is 5.3 making that mandatory before ShB now or am I thinking of something else?
vocal shell
yeah they are
vagrant copper
So, yeah, do that
leaden ginkgo
hmmm just noticed the tower thing there and saw the same thing in new shb map
gloomy ice
It is yeah. 5.3 is making it mandatory to progress story.
leaden ginkgo
how long is crystal tower line? does it include all 24man for every expansion?
vagrant copper
3 raids. Decent amount of custscenes in between
Though not bad. Maybe like 2-4 hours or something?
vagrant copper
Queue is more alive than other alliance raids 
raw solstice
the instances are a part of alliance roulette, which is frequently run
especially since you get people that are leveling, the level 50 raids are generally more likely to be unlocked by more people and be options as part of the roulette
leaden ginkgo
ohhh thanks thanks
warped nest
Contents not in standard roulette: Bahamut coil raid, ex trials, Savage raids, Ultimate raids
Everything else are on roulette
raw solstice
they are considered ex yeah, and they're technically a part of mentor roulette as well~ but yeah, I dunno they asked a bit more specifically for an alliance roulette haha
well, instances that are a part of that roulette, at least
leaden ginkgo
running around for crystal tower makes me wish flying is available for arr maps
warped nest
It will be
raw solstice
it will be~
leaden ginkgo
nice, did they say if its instaunlock or aether current + some quests again?
warped nest
Just complete the lvl 50 story quest in base ARR, I think it is Ultimate Weapon?
And it will unlock it all
leaden ginkgo
blessed 5.3n
simple shore
I wonder how that's going to work mechanically
because new players theoretically dont have a mount capable of flight until ~20 quests into Heavensward
warped nest
All mounts can fly now
warped nest
Even your chocobo can fly
simple shore
Ah thats the simple answer. If that quest is leaving then its irrelevant
gloomy ice
Since birb unlock is also becoming mandatory
simple shore
@warped nest yeah but until 5.3 your chocobo cant fly until you do that quest.
warped nest
Yeah, I just realize you meant the quest
simple shore
So until Eton said that, i was thinking how does the ARR flying help new players, but clearly irrelevant
lime geode
Wow - flying in ARR! That's great news.
leaden ginkgo
is there a way to see every available quest in a whole area?
lime geode
BTW thanks to whoever recommended dancer as a non-complex class. I'm liking it, definitely prefer it to red mage so far.
vagrant copper
@leaden ginkgo If you open up the map (default M), you can see every quest in the zone that you can accept. Though you have to be in that zone for them to show up.
stray dawn
just got into Idyllshire, where shall I find the shire gears?
vagrant copper
They'd be in the big central building but you (probably) can't buy them yet
warped nest
The 3 sack north of the book, west of the bird
warped nest
Shire gears aren't gated by story
vagrant copper
... SE sucks at consistency...
gloomy ice
Well, sort of. You need to be able to reach the zone.
stray dawn
yup, seems like I can get em
gloomy ice
But once you're there, knock yourself out.
kind eagle
how do ironwork works
warped nest
Spend Allagan Tomestone of Poetic, get gears
Or
Spend Allagan Tomestone of Poetic, get item, use items to trade gears
obsidian patio
Poetics are earned from daily roulettes and running level 50/60/70 content.
kind eagle
Vinyl said "Buy 10 rowena tokens of Scripture and a micro tomestone"
and i did
so how do i upgrade
vagrant copper
Talk to the other lady and trade those for a weapon
obsidian patio
Go to Eschina and choose the "Scaevan Weapon Exchange"
kind eagle
Rowena Token (scripture) am i right
warped nest
Just to clarify, Ironwork is the lvl 50 series tradable with Poetic tomestone
Yes, Yuki
warped nest
👌
leaden ginkgo
@vagrant copper oh i know about the maps its just like, is there a cleaner way to see them all? like cause some npc will have 3 quests to give and i wouldnt be able to tell
warped nest
Not really unfortunately
vagrant copper
The recommendation window... maybe? Though I've never understood how it decides what to show you
kind eagle
for sam
zinc orbitBOT
kind eagle
do i go for direct hit or determination
warped nest
You can pick those
gloomy ice
Make sure you're buying the Pankratiast stuff for SAM.
lime geode
DNC is dex for those?
warped nest
Yes
obsidian patio
Dancer would use aiming stuff, yes
lime geode
yeah I figured 😄
but the secondarys often change - I just don't really pay much attention to them
bronze sorrel
yea dont worry about them until you hit endgame
in which case they still dont really matter if you dont plan on doing difficult content like savage/ultimate
warped nest
👍
bronze sorrel
weapon damage >> primary > secondary
lime geode
I'll trust you guys have figured it out 🙂
obsidian patio
don't ask me how it works i'm just good at copy-pasting links
lime geode
Huh. Looks like they've thought about it quite a bit.
raw solstice
good bit of reverse engineering and guess and check. Still don't know the order of operations so sometimes rounding memes can be a thing. But they've sorted quite a bit out yeah
warped nest
Short answer is yes
nimble vapor
hey, do I have to unlock dungeons manually? I am lvl 31 and I still only have like 4 dungeons and they are only at lvl 20
obsidian patio
most of the level 15-49 dungeons are from the story but there's a few optional ones.
nimble vapor
alright, thanks for the quick answer!
obsidian patio
Here's all the optional dungeons for ARR leveling:
Halatali (20) from the quest "Hallo Halatali" from talking to Nedrick Ironheart in Vesper Bay. He also has the quests for Sunken Temple of Qarn (35) and Aurum Vale (47)
Cutter's Cry (38) from the quest "Dishoner Before Death" from talking to Sibold in the Ul'Dah marketplace.
Dzemael Darkhold (44) from the quest "Fort of Fear" from talking to Carrilault in Coerthas Central Highlands at the Observatorium
warped nest
Yeah, its there
sudden wolf
Av is optional yes
bronze sorrel
oh
obsidian patio
I put Sunken Temple and Aurum Vale with Halatali since they're from the same NPC
bronze sorrel
ye gotcha
warped nest
Wynne big brain AF
bronze sorrel
didnt read to the end of the line
obsidian patio
though Sunken Temple can be earned from the MSQ if you don't grab it from him
because 2.1 is weird like that
warped nest
It makes it easier
vagrant copper
Probably not? I don't imagine they'd put hunt spawns in places you can only fly to
warped nest
Some spots are just a massive pain in the ass to run to
Flying is a straight line (usually)
spring oasis
flying go zoom fast
hot crane
rip I didn't unlock any place except Azys Lla
spring oasis
running be slow zzz
simple shore
There's definitely some A ranks that spawn in places you can only fly to
hot crane
if I just wanna do lv 80 hunt
spring oasis
@robust crow you need to be able to get to the wedding spot
hot crane
can I just unlock norvrandt?
warped nest
Flying is a very good convenience
simple shore
I distinctly remember killing the snake A rank in Sea of Clouds on the terrace above Vundo Ok' Bendu
robust crow
hmm, good point...
warped nest
Yes, you can just unlock flying in ShB maps
obsidian patio
no, you have to do the story to reach shadowbringer zones.
hot crane
cuz I dont know if SHB hunt are limited just in norvrandt
warped nest
Yes, just norvrandt
spring oasis
@obsidian patio wheres the hardlock until I hit 80 in MSQ?
I have the side quest locking me out right before mt g or whatever is that until I hit 80 and do the full side?
or is it 1 side quest again
obsidian patio
It's in the final zone, if you mean the quest that wants you to finish a role quest series
but in terms of # of quests from when you unlock Mount Gulg, about 8 more story quests from there
spring oasis
@obsidian patio its a lil confusing how I put it, but basically
do I need to finish the side quest first in order to do Mt G
obsidian patio
no
hot crane
is there a bot that will inform when a boss to be hunted would appear?
I am in crystal dc
vagrant copper
Nothing like a bot that I know of but you can join discords that will ping for sighted stuff
#resources has some hunt discords listed
vague steeple
Is the tonberry server hard or soft locked atm? A friend and I are looking to start playing with another friend but it appears locked at the moment. If its soft locked around what time is it usually open?
vagrant copper
!status tonberry
zinc orbitBOT
little swift
!faq serverlock
zinc orbitBOT
vagrant copper
It's not "congested" so the status is updated pretty frequently (every few minutes). Though IIRC Tonberry is one of the more popular ones so you might be looking at early morning to make a new character. Like 2AM.
vague steeple
Ok thanks hopefully sometime tonight we can get in 🙂
fleet knot
Any crafting mentor could dm me please? I have a few questions (sprout)
simple shore
In this case, keeping in mind that Tonberry is Japan DC, you'd be aiming for ~2AM their time.
vague steeple
yeah I am from australia I think jp is 1 hr behind us
jade quartz
You’ll likely get better results asking here in this channel
little swift
Just ask here@fleet knot
fleet knot
I wanna pin it somewhere so I can get back to it whenever
little swift
Copy and paste it into notepad or whatever if the answer is what youre looking for
leaden ginkgo
are the drops in 24man not tradable/buyable?
gray silo
Does anyone actually play an form groups on this discord, or is it just a hangout for weabs? lol
obsidian patio
@leaden ginkgo correct.
Most gear obtained from dungeons/trials/raids isn't tradeable.
leaden ginkgo
ayt guess i need to get lucky at rolls 
little swift
@gray silo yes and no
woeful nacelle
I'm looking at Monk for the first time, you don't use tornado kick right?
gray silo
Haha. I was kidding. Im totally a Weeb myself. But....Where do I go for groups for newbs? Lol. I know some stuff, but I need ppl in game to chat an play with.
little swift
TK is good when you know you're going to experience long periods of downtime that can't be covered with anatman or sss
obsidian patio
Only in super specific scenarios
spring oasis
ok im lvl 78 need tobe 79 what is the best way to get xp lel dailies?
16mil/32mil cri
obsidian patio
pixie beast tribes if you got them, leveling/main scenario/alliance raid roulettes
vagrant copper
@gray silo #603040765723148289 is where you might be able to find an FC or something
little swift
#general-discussion for general talking #recruitment-crystal if that's your data center #retired-na-datacenters
spring oasis
my roulettes arent even up to lvl date
gr8
this is something ill worry when I wake
obsidian patio
ignore the level requirement set on the roulettes, that's just the minimum needed to queue for them. the experience reward scales according to your level
obsidian patio
So even though Leveling Roulette says it's level 16, it's very good experience past that
spring oasis
cool cool good good I like
obsidian patio
and to use main scenario roulette as an example, getting Praetorium at level 79 is about 20m experience.
leaden ginkgo
are melds meaningful at level 65?
obsidian patio
not really
@molten spruce Aery Gear or level 54 HQ crafted gear
augmented ironworks accessories are still good
molten spruce
where do i get aery?
molten spruce
im on an alt
msq aint an option
ahhhh
nvm
gotcha
thankss
im not sure i can tank the aery with IW so imma go with crafted
what is the name of the 55 crafted gear?
obsidian patio
level 54 stuff is Titanium
molten spruce
ok
obsidian patio
with dhalmelskin for pants
vocal shell
Is the singing cluster weekly only available when you’re on that step?
molten spruce
HQ are the ones with the weird S symbol right?
vocal shell
this
obsidian patio
if this is your first anima weapon, yes.
if not, you can do it at any time
Anima lets you stockpile materials for a lot of the steps once you complete your first weapon
vocal shell
alright, thanks
compact light
if going for the necromancer title, can you start your solo run on 51? Or do you have to start from 1?
vagrant copper
Have to start from 1
compact light
kk ty, just wanted to make sure i haven't been wasting my time doing those first 50. back in the hole I go!
kind eagle
Whats the diff between primal accessories of slaying and fending coffer
obsidian patio
some of the fending ones may have tenacity, which does nothing for DPS
vagrant copper
A set of "augmented primal XXX of slaying" accesories
Basically a step down from Scaeven Shire accessories
obsidian patio
Shire, but yes